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03:40.18 | jpa- | Thumper_: http://eee.kspsi.fi/~jhpa/stuff/bzw/nzmap.php |
03:40.24 | Thumper_ | jpa-: thx |
03:40.26 | jpa- | bajj, motning |
03:40.29 | Thumper_ | morning btw |
03:40.49 | Thumper_ | you can't spell yet. |
03:40.52 | jpa- | i'm so tied :p |
03:40.53 | Thumper_ | get some coffee |
03:41.04 | Thumper_ | kapsi not kspsi right? |
03:41.12 | jpa- | yes |
03:41.20 | jpa- | wait, i'll copy-paste |
03:41.33 | jpa- | http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/bzmap.php |
03:41.57 | Thumper_ | ah that's much better. :) |
03:42.04 | jpa- | but you need no tutorials, you are a guru :) |
03:42.04 | Thumper_ | works much better than eee.kapsi... |
03:42.05 | Thumper_ | ;) |
03:43.26 | Thumper_ | jpa-: uh bzland isn't written with bzmap (anymore) |
03:43.30 | Thumper_ | you might want to fix that |
03:43.42 | jpa- | why is it not? :( |
03:43.50 | jpa- | evil happy tanker trade us? |
03:43.55 | Thumper_ | Happy Tanker rolled his own |
03:44.00 | Thumper_ | looks like |
03:47.15 | jpa- | i need coffee :/ |
03:47.53 | jpa- | but if i go and get coffee, my parents saythat i should just go to sleep earlier |
03:48.17 | jpa- | but, hey, soon is summer \o/ |
03:50.05 | jpa- | Thumper_: what have you done to does anf bambi btw.? |
03:53.41 | Thumper_ | I didn't do anything to them |
03:53.53 | Thumper_ | we were away for the weekend... |
03:53.58 | Thumper_ | they'll probably both be on tomorrow |
03:54.14 | jpa- | the evil thumper_ wasn't |
03:54.26 | Thumper_ | wasn't what |
03:54.31 | jpa- | away |
03:54.41 | Thumper_ | no he's on screen :) |
03:54.56 | jpa- | but, have to go to sle..err, school -> |
03:55.07 | Thumper_ | um yeah. sleep for me |
03:55.09 | Thumper_ | cya later |
03:55.27 | Thumper_ | 1 of 9 LouMan maps running on my test server now... |
03:55.38 | Thumper_ | it randomly selects one when players leave |
03:56.55 | Thumper_ | night all... |
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09:45.14 | jolie | meno meno <3<3 |
09:45.19 | jolie | tupone ! |
09:45.23 | jolie | and morning all. |
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10:04.53 | jolie | germans are lazy |
10:05.03 | jolie | holliday again >_< |
10:05.16 | ToughShooter | hey, holidays are cute |
10:05.25 | jolie | yeah i know |
10:05.39 | jolie | im not complaining abou tthe hollidays but about germans :P |
10:05.47 | jolie | lazy lazy |
10:05.49 | ToughShooter | That's mean |
10:05.53 | jolie | well.. |
10:05.55 | jolie | its cute |
10:06.19 | ToughShooter | I've worked hard enough to have a free day :-p |
10:06.27 | jolie | i didnt say lazy asses or lazy bastards.. now thats mean. |
10:06.31 | jolie | excuse me!!! |
10:06.35 | jolie | but germans do not work hard... |
10:06.44 | jolie | make a lot of money in average time work.. |
10:06.57 | jolie | plus fridays they get to leave work around midday or 3 pm ! |
10:08.06 | ToughShooter | It's our standard. Maybe it looks different when compared to other countries but it's our standard |
10:08.17 | jolie | hey i live in germany |
10:08.21 | jolie | i dont compare |
10:08.25 | jolie | i live their reality :P |
10:08.34 | jolie | lazy lazy |
10:09.02 | ToughShooter | Look how much things we export. I dunno whether we've already beaten america but we're close to them |
10:09.13 | Tupone | jolie jolie |
10:09.19 | jolie | see!! germans lazy and proud |
10:09.23 | jolie | heh |
10:09.28 | jolie | topo amore mio!!!! |
10:09.30 | jolie | :** |
10:09.33 | jolie | tupo even |
10:09.39 | ToughShooter | Now compare the size of our country with the other one ;) |
10:09.46 | Tupone | :** topo is mouse in italian :) |
10:09.46 | jolie | haha |
10:10.04 | jolie | topo is this mouse like who lives underground in spanish |
10:10.15 | jolie | goffer |
10:10.28 | jolie | now lemme nerve the german thomas here |
10:10.36 | Tupone | hehe |
10:10.42 | ToughShooter | meanie |
10:10.46 | jolie | im not |
10:10.53 | jolie | shit |
10:11.13 | jolie | thnx AI suga |
10:11.19 | _Manu_ | k |
10:11.26 | jolie | now where was i ... |
10:11.33 | jolie | ah yeah lazy lazy germans |
10:11.45 | jolie | spending all day on internet... and playing games |
10:12.15 | jolie | well.. i duno why they get somuch free days for.. |
10:12.32 | jolie | its like oh the pope is german lets have a free day. |
10:13.32 | jolie | ToughShooter: dont take it so .. serious, i live here and im okay with it, its just we have tooo many days free :P |
10:13.43 | ToughShooter | University is hard enough to be lazy in my free time |
10:13.54 | jolie | uni... dont get me started on that one! |
10:14.06 | jolie | what uni? fachoschule? |
10:14.13 | jolie | or however you write that.. |
10:14.14 | ToughShooter | nope |
10:14.20 | jolie | uni uni then |
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10:16.52 | Tupone | another german for jolie |
10:16.59 | jolie | lol* |
10:17.03 | _Manu_ | heh |
10:17.17 | ToughShooter | Technology is also moving away the hard work. There was much more work to be done by hand some time ago. Now these jobs have been replaced by robots. It leads to planning only. |
10:17.26 | jolie | i mean seriously... germany with uni orany other kind of uni, gives you time enought for studies , hobbies, work and yet to have a lovelife... |
10:17.36 | jolie | so its quiute flexible.. and it isnt normal to me... |
10:17.40 | jolie | somehow.. |
10:17.50 | jolie | cause to me i couldnt work being in uni.. |
10:17.53 | jolie | yet here is possible. |
10:18.33 | jolie | nor to mention you get well paid even for a student job. |
10:19.04 | ToughShooter | Trust me it's not much free time while having to learn. When one semester has passed and the other doesn't started there is nothing to be done for weeks of course |
10:19.22 | jolie | come on.. ive been there... |
10:19.29 | jolie | its doable and you have plenty time. |
10:20.02 | jolie | thats not what i would call hard work. |
10:20.05 | ToughShooter | Depends on what you're doing |
10:20.17 | jolie | obviously not medicine |
10:20.37 | ToughShooter | If you want to finish soon it'll be more work obviously |
10:20.48 | jolie | its flexible |
10:20.49 | jolie | uni times |
10:20.53 | jolie | hollidays |
10:20.54 | ToughShooter | I think this gets too much offtopic |
10:20.56 | jolie | you get all pretty simple |
10:21.08 | jolie | uhm well not that anyone was saying any diff ;) |
10:23.46 | Pimpi | most students who work (or have to work) need at least one extra yeah at uni to finish their studies |
10:24.17 | jolie | well .. hardly i would say |
10:24.23 | _Manu_ | Pimpi, hi! |
10:24.45 | Pimpi | k, there are some professions that require more concentraton on studues than other |
10:24.50 | Pimpi | hi _Manu_ :) |
10:25.24 | jolie | sure they are definetly wont spend their time here on freenode |
10:25.28 | ToughShooter | The math ones are the hardest for me |
10:25.56 | jolie | brb phone |
10:26.16 | jolie | wrong phone |
10:26.27 | Pimpi | you might have been in germany, but i know _many_ students and those who had to work spend definately more time |
10:26.40 | jolie | im stil here |
10:26.45 | Pimpi | ic |
10:26.51 | jolie | yeah i dont say all studies are this way.. |
10:27.08 | jolie | but its accesible to have a pretty flexible life |
10:27.19 | Pimpi | true |
10:27.39 | jolie | its not like you say, shit cant be wasting time on the net cause i have to study, or cant go to ottos party cause i gotta work and do a math test on monday. |
10:28.32 | Pimpi | yes, you're true about flexibility |
10:28.45 | jolie | i know. |
10:28.47 | jolie | :P |
10:29.37 | Pimpi | you _can_ sleep until noon everyday and still get your diploma |
10:30.11 | ToughShooter | To some lessons I don't even come |
10:30.16 | jolie | well... you can all do pretty good and graduate fine |
10:30.27 | jolie | well you could if you wouldnt hang on freenode! :P |
10:30.32 | ToughShooter | Just learning it at home while being in #bzflag |
10:30.41 | jolie | see FLEXIBLE and lazy |
10:30.41 | Pimpi | hehe |
10:30.45 | jolie | you just proved my point |
10:30.48 | jolie | lol* |
10:30.59 | ToughShooter | Learning isn't lazy |
10:31.02 | ToughShooter | Haskell is lazy |
10:31.39 | jolie | you should be like, erk girlie i will study now intead of proving you how right you are about flexibilitie and lazy times on germans guys :D |
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12:37.21 | jolie | uhm |
12:37.42 | jolie | what patch do i need for .... |
12:37.46 | jolie | fails to adapt to xinerama properly... |
13:08.08 | Tupone | jolie: you want to adapt bzflag to xinermama ? |
13:08.15 | Tupone | xinerama too |
13:09.21 | jolie | yaaaaaaaah |
13:09.55 | Tupone | you have to look at SDL sites, and see if there is something specific |
13:10.05 | jolie | hmrrr.... |
13:10.50 | Tupone | I know there is something specific for Mac. I don't have 2 monitor, so I have not tested |
13:11.06 | jolie | mac!? |
13:15.11 | ToughShooter | Hmm, is there anything that can be done against traceroutes like this: http://pastebin.com/285103 ? |
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13:20.40 | jolie | manu manu |
13:21.36 | _Manu_ | hola! |
13:21.53 | jolie | hola guapo |
13:21.54 | jolie | q hay? |
13:22.02 | _Manu_ | :) |
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13:22.16 | jolie | awwgerman felt ignored aw aw |
13:24.11 | Tupone | jolie: bzflag on Mac (Sean) had some issue with xinerama that we fixed |
13:24.45 | _Manu_ | jolie, speak spanish? |
13:24.50 | jolie | si |
13:24.54 | _Manu_ | oh |
13:25.03 | jolie | ah but sean i dunno ... have to catch him when he is around.. |
13:25.30 | Tupone | jolie's mother tongue I guess |
13:25.32 | jolie | manu pense q ayer te distes cuenta guapo. |
13:25.40 | _Manu_ | pozi ;) |
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13:25.47 | jolie | despues de todo dije haberte programado :P |
13:26.04 | _Manu_ | ah... ahora recuerdo :/ |
13:26.20 | jolie | why the face for? hmhm |
13:26.41 | jolie | damm now who will wake up sean... |
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13:27.09 | _Manu_ | he is not sleeping.. |
13:27.09 | Tupone | ~morning learner |
13:27.18 | jolie | well... |
13:27.22 | Tupone | :( |
13:27.31 | jolie | then whenever he wants to he will reply to me.. |
13:27.39 | jolie | and if not then is usual. |
13:27.51 | _Manu_ | simply, because he is not near his box |
13:28.04 | Tupone | ~wakeup learner |
13:28.05 | ibot | ACTION silently aproaches learner, who's sleeping (zZzZZZzzZZ, Ronc !!! ronc!), gets off his pants and shoots a noisy fart ... PUBFBFBFBBBFFF!!! |
13:28.10 | jolie | not neat his boy means zzz |
13:28.19 | jolie | boy/box |
13:28.21 | jolie | lol* |
13:28.25 | _Manu_ | heh |
13:28.52 | jolie | como sea .. no entiendo un pito como arreglar xinerama |
13:28.55 | jolie | ill wait. |
13:29.03 | _Manu_ | para mac? |
13:29.13 | jolie | y dale. |
13:29.15 | jolie | no. |
13:30.12 | jolie | manu manu :** |
13:30.12 | _Manu_ | y que te pasa con xinerama? |
13:30.49 | _Manu_ | jolie, you sill away? ;-p |
13:31.07 | jolie | F0ck. |
13:31.17 | _Manu_ | alexandra, alexandra... |
13:31.34 | jolie | thats largo to say |
13:33.45 | Tupone | ~x es en largo |
13:33.51 | _Manu_ | long big.. |
13:34.04 | jolie | alex alex will do it thxs |
13:34.18 | jolie | i need.... a sweet brb |
13:35.12 | ruskie | hmmm |
13:35.17 | ruskie | whoaa |
13:35.21 | _Manu_ | hi ruskie! |
13:35.24 | ruskie | lo |
13:36.11 | jolie | ack ok i dont find anything, i dont understand wht i read, i feel like a retard i go for a smoke now bbs. >_< |
13:36.46 | _Manu_ | then.. if you don't understand "un pito" how do you know it's wrong? :) |
13:38.09 | jolie | cause i see what i have .. |
13:38.16 | jolie | argl, i give up. |
13:38.57 | _Manu_ | what are you trying, to play bzflag with xinearma? |
13:39.21 | jolie | si mi amorcito ;) |
13:39.30 | jolie | ya vengo dije. |
13:40.08 | _Manu_ | lo siento, pero yo no estaba aquĆ cuando lo dijiste :/ |
13:42.42 | _Manu_ | tu amorcito? y yo sin enterarme.. jeje ;) |
13:44.39 | learner | heh, morning Tupone |
13:44.54 | jolie | and there he is... |
13:45.02 | _Manu_ | learner, somebody is looking for you k |
13:45.10 | learner | i see |
13:45.13 | jolie | you wish |
13:45.20 | jolie | well i wish lol* |
13:45.31 | learner | macs don't use xinerama, but do have built in multi-display functionality |
13:45.38 | jolie | i dontuse mac |
13:45.43 | jolie | now help* |
13:46.20 | _Manu_ | is xinerama workingn in your system... linux? windows? |
13:46.29 | jolie | linux |
13:46.31 | learner | from sdl's perspective it should just be a question of whether or not you want single display or not |
13:47.01 | learner | the problems I've seen with xinerama are that people set up opengl on one display but not on the other and they don't even know it |
13:47.16 | jolie | well.. |
13:47.22 | learner | well.. |
13:47.47 | _Manu_ | i used xinerama and twist view.. but long time ago :) |
13:47.49 | learner | do you want single or multi? |
13:48.56 | learner | bz presently forces single display |
13:49.08 | jolie | single!? |
13:49.09 | jolie | ... |
13:49.32 | learner | yes, i have multiple monitors on several systems, but I sure wouldn't want to play like that |
13:50.01 | jolie | well.. hm hm |
13:50.10 | learner | xinerama should "override" though iirc and actually act like one display |
13:50.47 | _Manu_ | yes, if you configure it is like one big screen |
13:50.54 | learner | you could try recompiling with a line commented out, though, and it would turn off the single display forcing |
13:50.56 | jolie | i have 3 |
13:53.01 | jolie | and... |
13:53.07 | learner | to manage multiple displays, it really requires a configuration panel that lets you position your monitors, the offsets, what goes on what display, etc |
13:53.14 | jolie | lemme do what you just said... |
13:53.19 | jolie | my lord |
13:53.21 | jolie | brb |
13:53.31 | learner | we don't have that so the game would be practically unplayable on most multiple displays |
13:53.52 | learner | xinerama acting as one display, though, should work single it hides that multiple display fact |
13:54.02 | jolie | well... |
13:54.09 | learner | but then you have to get the ogl right, iirc, on each display |
13:54.21 | learner | well.. |
13:55.01 | jolie | so hjow to myke it single disp? |
13:55.18 | learner | bz or xinerama? |
13:55.24 | learner | bz is already |
13:55.26 | jolie | bz on xine |
13:55.31 | learner | xinerama.. dunno |
13:55.33 | jolie | thewn xine |
13:55.35 | jolie | bah |
13:55.37 | jolie | lol* |
13:56.01 | _Manu_ | jolie, ganas de complicarte la vida :) |
13:56.06 | learner | jeje |
13:56.14 | _Manu_ | :) |
13:56.22 | jpa- | llalalala |
13:56.23 | jolie | pero q me iba a imaginar q este boy me iba a enredar mas! |
13:56.37 | jolie | so how do i make xine single disp? |
13:56.40 | jolie | hmrmrmrmrm |
13:57.03 | _Manu_ | modify your server config file.. |
13:58.05 | jpa- | ~google xinerama howto |
13:58.39 | jolie | exacly what i need... bah. |
13:59.05 | jpa- | poor jolie.. she has to learn to read :/ |
13:59.35 | jolie | hey... |
13:59.37 | jolie | >_< |
13:59.38 | _Manu_ | reading is easy.. anybody can do it.. difficult is with no read :) |
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14:01.41 | Thumper_ | reading is easy... understanding can be hard |
14:02.07 | jolie | GL only works on one of my displays, thats known ... hmhmhmmh |
14:02.12 | Thumper_ | jpa-: good morning |
14:02.20 | jpa- | morning thumpy |
14:02.24 | jolie | i go with Thumper_ on that. |
14:02.40 | jpa- | i was a bit tired on the morning >_> |
14:02.49 | Thumper_ | yeah I figured :) |
14:03.22 | learner | jolie, if it's set up correctly, you should be able to run glxgears, have it span multiple displays and not really slow down (much) -- the smaller window on any single monitor should run just as fast (assuming relatively equivalent video cards) |
14:03.22 | _Manu_ | jolie, there is an easy way for making xinerama working.. only need one thing |
14:04.13 | jpa- | Thumper_: but why do you need a tutorial? |
14:04.22 | Thumper_ | I don't need one... |
14:04.31 | jpa- | :S |
14:04.34 | Thumper_ | but I might link to it from http://bzflag.norang.ca/ |
14:04.44 | Thumper_ | if I get permission... |
14:04.47 | Thumper_ | and it's any good ;) |
14:04.56 | jpa- | now i feel useless :/ |
14:05.04 | jpa- | and whole day i felt so good :S |
14:05.04 | Thumper_ | lots of people still ask how to make maps... |
14:05.19 | Thumper_ | I'm not saying it sucks... :) |
14:05.30 | Thumper_ | I haven't read it in depth... just scanned it fast |
14:34.30 | Pimpi | jpa-: nice tutorials |
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14:59.59 | srineer|laptop | hi is there a how to somewhere on how to setup a bzflag server |
15:01.16 | blast007 | ~bzfs |
15:01.17 | ibot | rumour has it, bzfs is the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public " come play here" must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer, or see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
15:10.29 | srineer|laptop | thank you |
15:11.27 | blast007 | np |
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15:17.35 | Tupone | morning learner |
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15:34.36 | srineer|laptop | anyone here run bzflag-server on debian? |
15:36.49 | Tupone | a lot of |
15:37.03 | Tupone | but not me |
15:37.45 | jolie | tupotopu |
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15:38.13 | Tupone | jolie jolie |
15:39.43 | _Manu_ | jolie, wellcome back.. oh.. you are still away ;) |
15:39.59 | jolie | fuck* |
15:40.09 | jolie | im doomed :/ |
15:40.15 | Tupone | jolie: watch your language |
15:40.28 | jolie | i watch it pretty clearly tuputapi |
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15:40.39 | Tupone | this is a quite G rated channel |
15:40.47 | jolie | yeah wasnt ment that way. |
15:40.52 | Tupone | even if I don't know what this does mean |
15:40.54 | jolie | so chill a bit ;) |
15:40.57 | Tupone | :) |
15:41.16 | Tupone | what this the G for ? |
15:41.25 | jolie | G-string |
15:41.26 | blast007 | General Audiances |
15:41.29 | jolie | g_spot |
15:41.32 | Tupone | ahh |
15:41.59 | Tupone | ty |
15:41.59 | _Manu_ | jolie, got your xinerama working? |
15:42.18 | jolie | no!! >_< ni me hagas acuerdo... ya estaba poniendo mi frustracion a un lado.... |
15:42.40 | _Manu_ | i can give you an easy trick for xinerame.. |
15:42.49 | jolie | unistall it? |
15:42.54 | _Manu_ | no... |
15:43.10 | jolie | cover the other monitor with a towel? |
15:43.25 | _Manu_ | just. take a black marker pen and draw a big cross in your monitor.. and just it |
15:43.48 | _Manu_ | xinerama four screen mode ;) |
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15:52.11 | jolie | CBG !!! <3 <3 |
15:52.58 | CBG | ;) |
15:53.37 | BenUrban | get a room, you two... |
15:53.44 | BenUrban | ;) |
15:54.04 | CBG | What are you impying, benurban? |
15:54.11 | BenUrban | lol |
15:55.18 | CBG | No... Do tell. Please... |
15:56.06 | BenUrban | lmao |
15:56.07 | jpa- | eeek |
15:56.19 | CBG | jpa: Quite. |
15:56.40 | BenUrban | your...little...sister.... |
15:56.41 | jpa- | she told she had a new motto |
15:56.51 | jpa- | "turn your back to me and i'll stab on it" |
15:56.54 | BenUrban | lmao |
15:57.02 | CBG | rofl |
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15:58.20 | CBG | Hey Jeff. :) |
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16:10.13 | JeffM2501 | hi |
16:12.37 | spldart | Morning |
16:13.26 | jpa- | lalalal |
16:13.42 | jolie | uhm.. evening |
16:14.36 | spldart | ladeedah |
16:15.05 | CBG | Yes - Evening. ;) |
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16:15.28 | JeffM2501 | it's morning |
16:15.35 | jolie | evening |
16:15.40 | CBG | Here = Evening. :) |
16:15.45 | SportyGal | gmorning all |
16:15.47 | jolie | yaaah |
16:15.55 | spldart | Here = Morning ;) |
16:15.56 | SportyGal | ~UGT |
16:15.57 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, ugt is Universial Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. |
16:15.57 | CBG | Evening, SportyGal. |
16:16.10 | CBG | Rofl!!! |
16:16.15 | SportyGal | gmorning CBG |
16:16.34 | CBG | Well... If I am about to leave, that makes it late for me... Right? |
16:16.39 | BenUrban | ROFLMFAO |
16:16.41 | SportyGal | nope |
16:16.46 | BenUrban | CBG: it makes you the late CBG |
16:16.54 | jolie | lol* |
16:17.04 | CBG | [quote=ibot] it is always late when the person leaves.[/quote] |
16:17.14 | CBG | Since I am leave... Night all! |
16:17.17 | CBG | Sleep tight. |
16:17.20 | spldart | Fun playing hepcat with yah cbg |
16:17.20 | jolie | nooo |
16:17.22 | Thumper_ | cya CBG |
16:17.23 | jolie | meh. |
16:17.23 | SportyGal | ciao |
16:17.28 | Thumper_ | ~dict UGT |
16:17.28 | BenUrban | bye |
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16:17.54 | JeffM2501 | it's a factoid not a dictonary thing |
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16:18.12 | CBG | Morning all |
16:18.18 | jolie | haha duh. |
16:18.23 | spldart | LOL |
16:18.30 | blast007 | :) |
16:18.48 | Tupone | SportyGal: how is playing again? :) |
16:19.11 | SportyGal | Tupone: it's awesome for everyone else! |
16:19.37 | blast007 | so the jitter problem is fixed? |
16:19.46 | SportyGal | Tupone: I get a lot of visual lag out the HUD now that I never got before, but no one is yelling at me anymore! :) |
16:19.46 | JeffM2501 | it was worked around |
16:19.49 | blast007 | ah |
16:20.30 | JeffM2501 | best solution would probably be to check for QPF changes and reset the time |
16:20.41 | JeffM2501 | or to use the getFilesystem time |
16:20.49 | JeffM2501 | if it's accurate enough |
16:25.54 | SportyGal | JeffM2501: what does QPF stand for? |
16:25.57 | Chestal | how was the timing issue fixed? |
16:26.52 | blast007 | SportyGal: well, google says it's "Quantitative Precipitation Forecast", but... ;) |
16:26.55 | DTRemenak | SportyGal: QueryPerformanceFrequency. |
16:27.19 | JeffM2501 | that's the function set I removed from the build you have |
16:27.21 | SportyGal | DTRemenak: thanks |
16:27.22 | DTRemenak | Chestal: JeffM2501 built SportyGal a build which uses timeGetTime only. |
16:27.22 | blast007 | hehe |
16:27.36 | SportyGal | JeffM2501: cool - it works great to get rid of jitter |
16:27.47 | JeffM2501 | it removes your jitter but it isn't accurate enough to use |
16:27.58 | JeffM2501 | it just shows that your QPF is changing too much |
16:28.04 | JeffM2501 | and that's whats scrwing you up |
16:28.08 | SportyGal | JeffM2501: yep |
16:28.43 | Chestal | what's the accuracy of timeGetTime (assumed there is a guaranteed one)? |
16:28.45 | JeffM2501 | it's not over yet |
16:28.48 | JeffM2501 | by a longshot |
16:29.00 | Chestal | and does the value returned by QPF actually change? Have you tried that? |
16:29.04 | JeffM2501 | Chestal, the min granularity can vary, usualy 10-15ms |
16:29.09 | JeffM2501 | it's just not a good timer |
16:29.35 | JeffM2501 | I've never seen it return less then 10ms |
16:29.37 | DTRemenak | QPF always returns the same frequency, even when the real frequency changes |
16:29.38 | SportyGal | JeffM2501: I know, but at least you've now FOUND the problem - it's much easier to address it now |
16:29.53 | JeffM2501 | SportyGal, not nesisaraly :) |
16:30.19 | JeffM2501 | but I'm sure DTR will pull out an elegant solution |
16:30.21 | DTRemenak | finding the source of the error is half the battle :) so in another four months... ;) |
16:30.23 | Chestal | have you checked the value of QPF for SportyGal? Is it in the range of 1e9? |
16:30.24 | DTRemenak | j/k :) |
16:30.36 | JeffM2501 | Chestal, she can't do that |
16:30.52 | JeffM2501 | all I did was make it use the old timeGetTime code |
16:30.58 | SportyGal | remember: we live in the same metropolis |
16:31.13 | DTRemenak | yeah, you probably even know where to find me :) |
16:31.27 | JeffM2501 | sanangeles is a big place |
16:31.32 | Chestal | I'd find it interesting, to have a small non-bz test program which prints QPF values and does time measurement in a (sleeping / calcluating loop) by both QPT and timeGetTime |
16:31.55 | JeffM2501 | Chestal, bust one out :) |
16:32.01 | Chestal | I can't |
16:32.08 | JeffM2501 | why not? |
16:32.11 | Chestal | no Windows dev environment available tome |
16:32.14 | DTRemenak | winelib :) |
16:32.22 | JeffM2501 | cross compile |
16:32.31 | Chestal | pfft |
16:32.33 | JeffM2501 | SF build farm |
16:32.46 | Chestal | would probably take me a whole day |
16:32.54 | Chestal | whereas for a Win programmer it should be 5 minutes |
16:32.58 | JeffM2501 | you write what you want it to do, I'll compile it |
16:34.04 | JeffM2501 | what is the ls option to have it show file sizes? |
16:34.21 | Chestal | -l for long listing |
16:34.28 | Chestal | shows all kinds of information though |
16:34.41 | JeffM2501 | it's good enough |
16:34.42 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
16:34.52 | Chestal | or use du |
16:35.21 | Chestal | which doesn't print file size, but occupied size in file system |
16:35.53 | JeffM2501 | I just needed to know if a file was of decent size |
16:36.02 | JeffM2501 | to make sure a sql dump worked |
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16:36.41 | JeffM2501 | nope |
16:36.51 | JeffM2501 | SportyGal, not all things are about your problem :) |
16:37.14 | JeffM2501 | chestal wants you to run a test thing that dosn't exist |
16:37.20 | SportyGal | JeffM2501: I know that! I was just thinking if it was something you wanted me to run, it had to come with an idiot-proof installer |
16:37.34 | JeffM2501 | and he is trying to convince me and/or DTR to write it, t no avail. |
16:37.41 | SportyGal | JeffM2501: hehe |
16:37.46 | JeffM2501 | there is nothing for you to do right now |
16:37.56 | DTRemenak | I might write something similar to test a couple routines later today |
16:37.58 | JeffM2501 | when there is, somone will say "download this and run it" |
16:38.02 | SportyGal | JeffM2501: I realized that much |
16:38.13 | SportyGal | gmorning orchi |
16:38.39 | orchid | hello |
16:39.16 | Chestal | hi orchid |
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16:47.25 | SportyGal | ~klax |
16:47.26 | DTRemenak | Tupone: xcompile? |
16:47.28 | SportyGal | oops |
16:47.32 | SportyGal | ~weather klax |
16:47.39 | SportyGal | TimRiker: hiya |
16:48.42 | SportyGal | brrrrrrr |
16:50.08 | orchid | anyone else get an invite to join the "Sojourner linux team" at their user@sf address? I guess its spam? |
16:50.32 | orchid | OSS spam at least |
16:59.10 | Chestal | got it and deleted it |
17:00.39 | DTRemenak | yup, same here |
17:00.50 | jpa- | i didn't \o/ |
17:02.09 | Tupone | DTRemenak: cross compile |
17:02.24 | DTRemenak | Tupone: oh, duh :) |
17:17.05 | _Manu_ | I got it too :/ |
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17:22.50 | Thumper_ | ToughShooter: yes |
17:24.43 | ToughShooter | Is there a way to make clients access a map on a web page using http? |
17:27.56 | Chestal | yes, bzfs -cache / -cacheout |
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17:39.31 | ToughShooter | Hmm, bzfs man page says clients try that before a local copy |
17:40.18 | ToughShooter | I would like to change stuff on webpage only |
17:43.19 | ToughShooter | Ah, it works without a local copy |
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17:47.37 | CBG | Morning all :) |
17:48.41 | blast007 | ;) |
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18:05.25 | spldart | morning. evening... whateva ;) |
18:05.45 | spldart | Try this on for size.... Good afternoon |
18:05.49 | spldart | :-D |
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18:23.02 | retro_ | Can anyone tell me where the #bzflag archives are stored? |
18:23.40 | CBG | ~logs |
18:23.41 | ibot | hmm... logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
18:23.55 | retro_ | tanks. |
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18:32.12 | menotume | I hate grub :( |
18:34.14 | Tupone | menotume: why? |
18:34.27 | menotume | had a problem with hdd1 |
18:34.38 | menotume | nothing on it except mp3s ... |
18:34.48 | Tupone | had means no more |
18:34.53 | menotume | I unplug it, and i can't boot anymore |
18:35.06 | menotume | still a problem with hdd :) |
18:35.21 | Tupone | where you installed grub? |
18:35.45 | menotume | grub seems to want to look at hdd - but there are no references to it in grub.conf or device.map |
18:35.58 | menotume | on sda |
18:36.10 | Tupone | if you stop grub and gives the command by hands? |
18:36.20 | menotume | didn't do that |
18:36.28 | menotume | was going to try that next |
18:36.47 | menotume | but, i was able to take the entry for hdd out of fstab |
18:37.00 | menotume | and was able to boot |
18:37.10 | Tupone | fstab .. so is not grub ... |
18:37.30 | menotume | when I unplugged hdd, grub failed |
18:37.50 | menotume | i don't know why that would make grub fail |
18:38.08 | Tupone | and you started with a CD ? |
18:38.12 | menotume | yes |
18:38.25 | menotume | to take the entry out of fstab |
18:38.43 | Tupone | and then grub start :/ |
18:38.47 | menotume | yes |
18:38.52 | menotume | with hdd plugged in |
18:38.57 | menotume | oh well |
18:41.43 | menotume | had a simlar problem when I first installed FC3 .... |
18:42.01 | menotume | when I intalled, I only had the sata drive |
18:42.04 | menotume | all was fine |
18:42.09 | menotume | until I added hdd |
18:42.17 | menotume | then, couldn't boot :P |
18:42.37 | menotume | grub is trying to do something, and i don't know how to disable it (yet) |
18:42.41 | Chestal | I could never figure out th enumbering of my hard drives in grub |
18:42.54 | menotume | that part i figured out |
18:42.55 | Chestal | if it stops working, I simply switch 0 to 1 :-) |
18:42.59 | menotume | lol |
18:43.11 | menotume | drive and parition numbers start at 0 |
18:43.12 | Chestal | it#s totally inconsistent |
18:43.27 | Chestal | maybe its related to SATA somehow |
18:43.30 | menotume | hd0,1 = hda2 |
18:43.47 | Chestal | there is a mapping file |
18:43.50 | Chestal | but I gave up on it :-) |
18:43.52 | menotume | in addition, there's a device.map file (in /boot/grub) |
18:44.05 | menotume | hehe |
18:44.06 | Chestal | it simply didn#t work as documented |
18:44.25 | menotume | lilo had it's problems - ut at least you could control it |
18:44.40 | Chestal | so whenever I change somethign and grub cannot find stagex, I simply edit the boot line and change 1<->0 |
18:44.54 | menotume | hmmm |
18:44.58 | menotume | whatever works :) |
18:45.13 | Chestal | you should have seen my previous boot setup |
18:45.27 | Chestal | three stage boot into Linux :-) |
18:45.33 | menotume | ewww |
18:46.15 | Chestal | soem boot manager in master boot record which made the NT boot loader (by injecting keys into keyboard buffer) to load an image of lilo which then loaded Linux |
18:46.26 | menotume | lol |
18:46.37 | Chestal | worked great |
18:46.56 | Chestal | only annoyance was that whenever I made a change to lilo I had to copy the boot sector file to the NT partition somehow |
18:47.07 | menotume | ahhh |
18:48.14 | Chestal | it was for historical reasons. I replaced win98 by win2000 at some point and had been using loadlin to fire up Linux |
18:48.29 | Chestal | and I wanted to keep my trusty old master boot manager |
18:48.32 | menotume | sounds like fun |
18:48.40 | Chestal | but now system is Linux only, quite boring :-) |
18:49.00 | menotume | now, to find out why 'fdisk /dev/hdd' says unable to open /dev/hdd |
18:49.20 | menotume | was working fine till i booted the system for another reason :( |
18:49.45 | Chestal | hdd? you have too many hard drives ;-) |
18:49.49 | menotume | heh |
18:49.56 | menotume | only 3 :) |
18:50.01 | menotume | and dvd |
18:50.11 | Chestal | hmm, then you have a strange setup |
18:50.25 | menotume | SATA drive is main drive |
18:51.13 | Chestal | mine, to, sda |
18:51.20 | menotume | i spoose i could move hdd to hdb |
18:51.38 | menotume | later though, i want to play bz while the system works :) |
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19:09.50 | learner | nice, I got our BRL-CAD BoF in the convention center |
19:10.30 | CBG | ~logs |
19:10.31 | ibot | methinks logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
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19:13.50 | CBG | TimRiker: Is there a reason why the ibot/purl logs are in .gz format as oppossed to just .html? |
19:14.38 | jpa- | because .html takes space? |
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19:15.17 | Tupone | I guess so |
19:15.37 | blast007 | CBG: IRC logs can take up a ton of space, but they also compress extremely well....so the logs are compressed with gzip |
19:15.55 | CBG | makes sense. Thanks guys. |
19:15.59 | Tupone | and modern browser gunzip on line |
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19:27.34 | Tupone | is writev supported by Windows? DTRemenak, JeffM2501 |
19:29.08 | learner | hmm, not just write()? |
19:30.01 | learner | they do have _write() |
19:30.02 | Tupone | I was looking at 1.2.1 c-ares code and they seems to use, but I'm not finding |
19:30.11 | blast007 | Tupone: I didn't find anything for 'writev' in the MSDN documentation |
19:30.58 | Tupone | writev_s ? |
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19:31.55 | blast007 | don't see that either |
19:32.22 | Tupone | :( ok |
19:32.26 | learner | what version is in bz? |
19:32.32 | Tupone | 1.2.0 |
19:32.36 | learner | ahh |
19:32.43 | learner | because it uses writev too |
19:32.49 | learner | just #ifdef'd out for windows |
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19:33.08 | Tupone | ok, I'll look |
19:34.14 | learner | falls back to a send() |
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19:45.07 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, what do you need to do? |
19:45.27 | Tupone | I fixed that. thanks |
19:45.45 | Tupone | I used the way it was on c-ares 1.2.0 |
19:45.47 | JeffM2501 | hoookay |
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19:46.03 | Tupone | EWOULDBLOCK -> WSAEWOULDBLOCK ?? |
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19:46.21 | JeffM2501 | usualy the WSA ones are identical |
19:46.45 | Tupone | but EWOULDBLOCK seems not exist in mingw :( |
19:46.54 | Grumbler | howMUCHWOODCOULDAWOODCHUCKBLOCKIFAWOODCHUCKCOULDBLOCKWOOD |
19:47.00 | JeffM2501 | 12 |
19:47.20 | Tupone | is EWOULDBLOCK defined in windows ? |
19:48.06 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
19:48.06 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
19:48.06 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
19:48.06 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
19:48.06 | JeffM2501 | #if 0 |
19:48.08 | JeffM2501 | #define EWOULDBLOCK WSAEWOULDBLOCK |
19:48.30 | Tupone | that is why .. ty |
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19:56.29 | Grumbler | JeffM2501< check out guu when you get a chance |
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19:59.31 | Grumbler | now that would be a cool idea for a java script..........point at a website full of maps, and get a virtual tour via java.......... |
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20:01.31 | JeffM2501 | Grumbler? what of guu? |
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20:02.13 | Grumbler | you got it |
20:02.16 | Grumbler | or she did |
20:02.19 | Grumbler | or it did |
20:02.35 | JeffM2501 | we got thrown of yon internet at work |
20:02.41 | JeffM2501 | it was sacry |
20:02.46 | JeffM2501 | like the dark times |
20:03.05 | Grumbler | heh |
20:03.17 | JeffM2501 | I started to get the shakes |
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20:32.21 | CBG | ~dict downer |
20:32.34 | CBG | ~more |
20:32.35 | ibot | [more] Displays the contents of the named files, one screenful at a time. Syntax: more (file1) (file2) ...(fileN). Where file1 through fileN are the files to display. Example: more papers/history-final displays the file papers/history-final. |
20:32.40 | CBG | gah |
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23:33.36 | menotume | hellos non-jitter chick |
23:35.05 | menotume | orchid !! are you lost ? |
23:35.22 | orchid | yes, I am |
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23:35.28 | menotume | lol (hi) |
23:37.31 | orchid | :) |
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23:52.29 | Ice_Wewe | hi |
23:52.48 | Ice_Wewe | bye |
23:54.51 | blast007 | :/ |
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