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| 02:53.25 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzeditw32/BZEdit32/objects.cpp: flipz + passable fix (bug 1196352) |
| 03:28.15 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CustomCone.cxx: flipz on cone/meshpyr fix (bug 1198764) |
| 03:43.56 | trepan | sour the teat |
| 03:44.06 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 03:44.07 | brlcad | heh |
| 03:57.00 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: doc my recent fixes |
| 04:07.10 | trepan | DTRemenak: 1. flipz does nothing for cones 2. it isn't really documented that they should be the same :) |
| 04:19.13 | DTRemenak | trepan: it's self-documenting...flipz should flip the pyramid's z axis :) and I don't really care if it does nothing on cones. hell, I don't really care if it does anything at all but it's probably best not to move map objects around when not asked to ;) |
| 04:24.12 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx: don't mention cones since flipz doesn't affect most of them |
| 04:24.17 | DTRemenak | whoops |
| 04:26.28 | trepan | i recognize that junk :) |
| 04:27.31 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx: whoops, last commit was the wrong file |
| 04:28.20 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: and this time, really don't mention cones since flipz doesn't affect them |
| 04:30.29 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/HUDRenderer.cxx: and this would be the file I actually wanted to commit from here. fix off-by-one error in ANSI code HUD string dimming. |
| 04:31.02 | DTRemenak | *sigh* remind me not to try to do two things at once :) |
| 04:31.25 | brlcad | aren't you thristy AND hungry right now? |
| 04:31.37 | DTRemenak | yeah actually I am :) |
| 04:37.15 | DTRemenak | sleepy too |
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| 04:47.32 | brlcad | bah, sleeping is for wussies and postcoitus interruptousrelaxus |
| 04:48.50 | PrezKennedy | its also for people with schizophrenic friends who insist on walking 3 miles to buy cigarettes, only to come back with a 20oz bottle of coke |
| 04:51.48 | brlcad | maybe for narcoleptic friends too |
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| 06:15.10 | _Manu_ | ruskie, hi! |
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| 09:01.34 | werner_ne | ah, thank you for giving signal |
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| 14:52.27 | menotume | any1 use ddd for debugging bzflag client ? |
| 14:52.47 | brlcad | yep |
| 14:52.53 | menotume | kewl. (hi) |
| 14:53.05 | menotume | how do I start ddd with bzlfag command-line options |
| 14:53.08 | menotume | like: |
| 14:53.14 | menotume | ddd ./bzflag -window |
| 14:53.27 | uso_w | run -window |
| 14:53.32 | brlcad | ddd's just a wrapper on gdb with the extra graphical gui |
| 14:53.41 | menotume | yes |
| 14:53.44 | brlcad | or ddd --args ./bzflag -window |
| 14:54.19 | menotume | ahhhh, thx - not in man page for ddd |
| 14:54.38 | menotume | uso: run -window ? |
| 14:54.44 | menotume | ohhhh, gotya |
| 14:54.49 | uso_w | inside ddd, at the gdb prompt |
| 14:54.50 | brlcad | like uso_w said, you can also run ddd ./bzflag and then "run -window" in ddd |
| 14:55.04 | menotume | right, okies - thx |
| 14:57.12 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:57.21 | menotume | i'll play, thx |
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| 14:58.39 | BearPerson | you can always run "ddd ./bzflag" |
| 14:58.56 | BearPerson | then up there's some checkbox or something "run with arguments" |
| 14:59.25 | BearPerson | I believe ddd even pops up a nice window to enter options every time |
| 14:59.38 | BearPerson | when you choose run through the pull-down menu |
| 15:00.12 | Bagheera | ddd ? |
| 15:00.36 | menotume | i got it with the: run -window |
| 15:01.41 | BearPerson | I run "ddd ./bzflag" |
| 15:01.52 | BearPerson | then go Program ->Run... |
| 15:02.06 | BearPerson | and there you can enter any arguments |
| 15:02.31 | menotume | yes, that's good, it'll save them there for me |
| 15:03.07 | BearPerson | :) |
| 15:08.48 | BearPerson | what does the "norejoin" permission in groups do? |
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| 15:15.01 | spldart | ~weather ksgr |
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| 16:01.39 | brandon | hello |
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| 16:01.52 | brandon | anyone know if there is a dedicated server for bzflag? |
| 16:03.35 | brandon | ? |
| 16:04.10 | brlcad | what do you mean by that? |
| 16:04.16 | brlcad | there are a couple |
| 16:05.30 | brandon | no, im looking for the server install |
| 16:05.59 | brlcad | "the server install"? |
| 16:06.19 | BenUrban | brlcad: bzfs you mean? |
| 16:06.22 | CBG | You mean bzfs? |
| 16:06.23 | brlcad | do you mean the actual game server that you connect to or a piece of hardware |
| 16:06.31 | brandon | as in, the server application, i can install on freebsd, and allow other clients to join |
| 16:06.39 | CBG | Then you need bzfs. |
| 16:06.41 | brlcad | bzfs |
| 16:06.43 | brandon | ok |
| 16:06.45 | CBG | It comes with BZFlag.... |
| 16:06.59 | brandon | alright, thanks |
| 16:07.21 | BenUrban | s/brlcad/brandon/ |
| 16:07.26 | BenUrban | heh, i hadn't even noticed |
| 16:07.47 | CBG | how does the s/error/correction thing work? |
| 16:07.56 | BenUrban | not sure lol |
| 16:08.05 | CBG | why put an s? |
| 16:08.07 | BenUrban | s = substitute |
| 16:08.15 | CBG | and why use slashes? |
| 16:08.16 | BenUrban | the slashes are delimiters |
| 16:08.24 | BenUrban | it's a regex thing |
| 16:08.27 | BenUrban | afaik |
| 16:08.28 | CBG | guu dict delimiter |
| 16:08.31 | guu | CBG: foldoc: delimiter <character> A {character} or {string} used to separate, or mark the start and end of, items of data in, e.g., a {database}, {source code}, or {text file}. See also: {record}. (2001-03-16) |
| 16:08.34 | CBG | ok. thanlks. |
| 16:09.26 | BenUrban | basically, s/original/replacement/ substitutes replacement for anything matching original |
| 16:09.27 | brlcad | CBG, many many unix tools use that syntax or something very similar -- it's a regular expression substitution |
| 16:09.27 | BenUrban | afaik |
| 16:09.42 | CBG | Ok. gotcha. |
| 16:09.55 | CBG | There was me still using *correction like a chav. :( |
| 16:10.15 | BenUrban | heh, i do that sometimes too |
| 16:10.45 | BenUrban | btw, i have yet to actually use that s/x/y/ notation in any script or program |
| 16:10.49 | BenUrban | :P |
| 16:10.53 | CBG | hehe. |
| 16:11.17 | CBG | On a different note, What is the best way to beat the bzflag addiction? |
| 16:11.21 | brlcad | there are other common variants too like s/ / /g which replaces all occurances (global replace) |
| 16:11.31 | BenUrban | CBG: admin a server for awhile |
| 16:11.40 | CBG | Rofl. :D |
| 16:11.50 | BenUrban | heh |
| 16:11.54 | BenUrban | find something else to get hooked on |
| 16:11.56 | BenUrban | of course :) |
| 16:11.57 | BenUrban | ooh |
| 16:11.59 | BenUrban | best way yet |
| 16:12.06 | BenUrban | updgrade your 3d card drivers |
| 16:12.07 | CBG | I hope to get up a small (2v2 i guess) server soon. |
| 16:12.10 | BenUrban | *upgrade |
| 16:12.14 | brlcad | BenUrban: is that more the fault of the regular expression or your use of the tools or frequency of scripting? |
| 16:12.20 | BenUrban | so that they no longer work |
| 16:12.20 | CBG | Wint that make you more addctied? |
| 16:12.24 | brlcad | I use it at least several times a week |
| 16:12.38 | CBG | oh right. |
| 16:12.46 | BenUrban | brlcad: i don't know sed and i don't know perl |
| 16:12.49 | CBG | I cant get hooked on anything else... |
| 16:12.54 | brlcad | well then :P |
| 16:12.58 | BenUrban | and i don't know where else that expression can be used |
| 16:13.02 | CBG | I want to be totally unhooked... I have exams in under 2 weeks! |
| 16:13.09 | BenUrban | LMAO |
| 16:13.12 | BenUrban | not possible |
| 16:13.25 | CBG | Except Physics... |
| 16:13.41 | CBG | I got a high A in the specimin paper with no revision... |
| 16:13.46 | CBG | lol! |
| 16:14.00 | CBG | Computing in general would be my first... |
| 16:14.06 | BenUrban | of course that's just the way i function :P |
| 16:14.10 | CBG | Then webdesign... now bz. Gah. |
| 16:14.19 | BenUrban | i can't ever have nothing addictive to do |
| 16:14.36 | CBG | Why cant they make revision addictive? |
| 16:14.41 | BenUrban | of course, i never did any homework in school... |
| 16:15.24 | CBG | Lol. |
| 16:15.35 | CBG | Well, ya see... |
| 16:15.39 | BenUrban | and i failed most of my classes |
| 16:15.44 | BenUrban | haha |
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| 16:15.46 | BenUrban | good |
| 16:15.48 | BenUrban | what a crock |
| 16:16.16 | BenUrban | <-- can't fit within the status quo |
| 16:16.24 | CBG | :D |
| 16:16.42 | CBG | This is OT... :( |
| 16:16.44 | BenUrban | heh, "no child left behind" would have left me behind |
| 16:16.59 | CBG | Jeff will kill me... so we should stop.. |
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| 16:17.04 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 16:17.04 | BenUrban | ok |
| 16:17.10 | BenUrban | heh i have to leave anyway |
| 16:17.16 | CBG | Awww. cye then |
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| 18:15.48 | noyb | brlcad: sorry brlcad... I fell asleep a few minutes after calling you. |
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| 18:20.07 | ron_ | Can anyone help me get bzflag running? I get an X error. |
| 18:20.27 | ron_ | X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range |
| 18:24.05 | JeffM2501 | you are probably asking for a video resolution larger then your card can support |
| 18:24.14 | JeffM2501 | or your drivers don't think you support it |
| 18:24.59 | ron_ | JeffM2501: I think it's the first. |
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| 18:25.09 | ron_ | JeffM2501: My card can support it. |
| 18:25.19 | ron_ | JeffM2501: But possibly the X server says it can not. |
| 18:25.47 | ron_ | JeffM2501: What's the default for bzflag? |
| 18:25.52 | creeperz | ron_: what kind of card? |
| 18:26.01 | ron_ | creeperz: 5900XT |
| 18:26.06 | creeperz | ohhhh |
| 18:26.22 | ron_ | creeperz: Should be fast enough, right? |
| 18:26.27 | creeperz | i think there were some known issues with those types of card |
| 18:26.40 | BearPerson | bzflag only knows the resolutions the X server can switch to, iirc |
| 18:26.53 | ron_ | BearPerson: You mean it only used those? |
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| 18:27.10 | BearPerson | Section "Screen", SubSection "Display", entry Modes |
| 18:27.12 | ron_ | BearPerson: In KDE I can switch to 1600*1200. |
| 18:27.14 | BearPerson | only those can be used |
| 18:27.32 | BearPerson | maybe it tries to start in 640x480 by default or something |
| 18:27.33 | ron_ | BearPerson: So there is some invalid value in the x configuration. |
| 18:27.37 | BearPerson | no |
| 18:27.46 | ron_ | BearPerson: :? |
| 18:27.48 | BearPerson | there is a value in the bzflag config that isn't in the X config |
| 18:27.54 | ron_ | BearPerson: Ok. |
| 18:27.57 | BearPerson | try starting it in windowed mode |
| 18:28.01 | ron_ | BearPerson: how? |
| 18:28.05 | BearPerson | bzflag -window |
| 18:28.18 | ron_ | Maybe I will leave now, due to a crash |
| 18:28.24 | BearPerson | then play around with the option menus a bit |
| 18:28.26 | uso_w | try run it with -geometry 1024x768 or any other resolution your X server config support |
| 18:29.03 | BearPerson | okay. note to ron_: configure 3D drivers |
| 18:29.14 | BearPerson | ;-) |
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| 18:29.47 | ron_ | Ok, it crashed. |
| 18:30.02 | ron_ | No, error this time, because X completely crashed. |
| 18:30.37 | ron_ | Could someone post it's X configuration to pastebin.com |
| 18:30.54 | ron_ | er his/her |
| 18:32.06 | ron_ | It does work in window mode. |
| 18:32.54 | uso_w | have you tried with -geometry? |
| 18:32.59 | uso_w | try run it with -geometry 1024x768 or any other resolution your X server config support |
| 18:33.53 | ron_ | uso_w: Yes, that crashed X. |
| 18:34.14 | ron_ | uso_w: But maybe my xconfig doesn't have it. |
| 18:34.17 | ron_ | uso_w: Let me check |
| 18:34.33 | JeffM2501 | ron_, what drivers are you running? |
| 18:34.45 | JeffM2501 | the ones that come with X or the ones from the cipset mfg? |
| 18:35.06 | ron_ | JeffM2501: NVidia newest |
| 18:35.12 | JeffM2501 | wierd then |
| 18:35.23 | JeffM2501 | it could be asking for a refresh that X dosn't support ether |
| 18:35.31 | ron_ | My X config has in it's screen section 1024x768 |
| 18:35.44 | BearPerson | ron_, did you try running it at the same resolution as your X currently was? |
| 18:35.44 | JeffM2501 | and the res your asking for in bzflag? |
| 18:35.45 | ron_ | JeffM2501: Of what? |
| 18:36.08 | ron_ | JeffM2501: How can I tell? I never played bzflag before, although it runs now. |
| 18:36.22 | ron_ | (In windowed mode) Nice sounds by the way ;) |
| 18:38.02 | JeffM2501 | that means it's failing on full screen |
| 18:38.13 | JeffM2501 | the refresh would be in your config if it has one at all |
| 18:38.19 | JeffM2501 | your probably on an SDL build |
| 18:38.26 | JeffM2501 | and it lets SDL pick the refresh |
| 18:38.39 | JeffM2501 | not all X implementations work well in fullscreen sadly |
| 18:38.44 | ron_ | BearPerson: no |
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| 18:39.12 | ron_ | Will try |
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| 18:47.20 | ron_ | It still doesn't work. |
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| 19:01.58 | uso_w | ron_: what version do you have? (first line in the message box after startup) |
| 19:05.07 | uso_w | *bzflag version |
| 19:05.22 | ron_ | uso_w: 2.02 |
| 19:05.28 | ron_ | 20050318 |
| 19:05.59 | uso_w | SDL? |
| 19:07.18 | ron_ | uso_w: yes |
| 19:07.49 | uso_w | sounds all good |
| 19:08.13 | ron_ | Maybe I should get a new xserver(instead of XFree). |
| 19:08.51 | uso_w | does it run with good frame rates in windowed mode? (key "t") |
| 19:11.01 | ron_ | uso_w: yes |
| 19:11.12 | ron_ | uso_w: Although not in all. |
| 19:11.19 | ron_ | uso_w: In some it crashes. |
| 19:11.34 | ron_ | uso_w: In 1280x1024 everything is ok. |
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| 19:12.07 | ron_ | uso_w: But when I give that to the commandline(-geometry 1280x1024) it crashes. |
| 19:12.19 | ron_ | uso_w: I think that's weird. |
| 19:13.25 | uso_w | seems to be a driver problem, maybe someone with a 5900 can give you another hint |
| 19:14.41 | uso_w | only as a try: change the color depth of your X server |
| 19:14.49 | ron_ | uso_w: You mean in the nvidia driver? |
| 19:14.56 | ron_ | uso_w: To what value? |
| 19:15.01 | ron_ | uso_w: It's now 24 |
| 19:15.07 | uso_w | try 16 |
| 19:15.08 | bz4071 | ~bzfquery 83.25.183.24:5555 |
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| 19:18.28 | bz4071 | ~bzfquery 83.25.183.24:5555 |
| 19:18.58 | *** part/#bzflag spldart (~james@adsl-70-240-231-80.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 19:19.06 | bz4071 | ~bzfquery 83.25.183.24:5555 |
| 19:20.59 | bz4071 | ~bzfquery 83.25.183.24:5555 |
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| 19:27.19 | bz4071 | ~bzfquery 83.25.183.24:5555 |
| 19:32.41 | bz4071 | ~bzfquery 83.25.183.24:5555 |
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| 19:35.46 | bz4071 | join me at 83.25.183.24:5555 |
| 19:36.00 | bz4071 | no jumping, no flags - just pure fighting :-) |
| 19:36.05 | CBG | ~bzfquery 83.25.183.24:5555 |
| 19:36.32 | bz4071 | ~bzfquery 83.25.183.24:5555 |
| 19:36.51 | CBG | ... |
| 19:38.28 | bz4071 | join me at 83.25.183.24:5555 |
| 19:38.30 | bz4071 | no jumping, no flags - just pure fighting :-) |
| 19:39.52 | CBG | okay okay... you said already... |
| 19:40.10 | CBG | this channel is for the devs, not for you to advertise you'r server... |
| 19:40.21 | bz4071 | where can I advertise it? |
| 19:40.32 | CBG | Get it on the public list... |
| 19:40.47 | bz4071 | it's already there :) |
| 19:41.17 | CBG | Then just wait... |
| 19:41.49 | CBG | People will join now and then... and if they like the map and all, they will stay in the hope someone else will join and will come back later. |
| 19:44.33 | jpa- | looks like a 4-team ducati |
| 19:44.45 | jpa- | not new enough, i wouldn't be interested atleast |
| 19:47.31 | CBG | Not worth the bother of hosting a server unless it has something new... |
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| 20:52.13 | BearPerson | Is there a way to re-request a registration confirmation mail? |
| 20:53.26 | JeffM2501 | ask me |
| 20:53.27 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.07 | BearPerson | :) |
| 20:54.15 | JeffM2501 | what username? |
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| 22:11.17 | purple_cow | BearPerson: pretty rarely |
| 22:11.28 | BearPerson | I see |
| 22:11.47 | BearPerson | should new ideas be added at the top of the new ideas list or the bottom? |
| 22:11.48 | purple_cow | new flags aren't exactly a piority |
| 22:13.02 | purple_cow | see that section of flags with the bright blue status? |
| 22:13.02 | purple_cow | add it there |
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| 22:13.24 | BearPerson | aye |
| 22:13.42 | BearPerson | top or bottom of that was my question |
| 22:14.22 | purple_cow | doesn't matter |
| 22:14.38 | BearPerson | oki, thanks |
| 22:36.54 | trepan | anyone else having probs with bz dev cvs? |
| 22:52.22 | brlcad | trepan: scheduled outage |
| 22:52.48 | brlcad | it was supposed to be 20-30 minutes ending about 2 hours ago |
| 22:52.56 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:52.59 | purple_cow | gotta love sf |
| 22:53.31 | brlcad | it's been coming back to live over the past hour, but I think it's flooded from people trying to get updates |
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| 23:49.32 | brlcad | yay, learner! |
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