| 00:01.17 | blast007 | try running this at the command prompt: |
| 00:01.18 | blast007 | "C:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.0\bzfs.exe" -conf "C:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.0\myconfig.conf" |
| 00:01.24 | uso | someone from viper.pimpi.org here? could you have a look at player "theres a bug2" please, moves and rotates with high agility |
| 00:01.41 | bz3239 | alright |
| 00:02.43 | bz3239 | says it cant find the conf file |
| 00:02.49 | bz3239 | http://pastebin.dyndns.org/89 |
| 00:04.22 | bz3239 | friciton annoying that it wont work |
| 00:04.27 | bz3239 | *frickin |
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| 00:06.01 | blast007 | if it says it can't find the conf file, then it's a problem with the command line |
| 00:06.10 | bz3239 | hmmm ok |
| 00:06.17 | poxy | talk nicely |
| 00:06.21 | blast007 | are you sure the conf file is at "C:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.0\myconfig.conf"? |
| 00:06.24 | Tupone | do this -> C: then -> cd \Program Files\BZFlag2.0.0 -> bzfs -conf myconfig.conf |
| 00:06.27 | bz3239 | yea |
| 00:07.09 | Tupone | so go to C, change to Program File\Bzflag2.0.0 |
| 00:07.19 | Tupone | and then bzfs -conf myconfig.conf |
| 00:09.23 | bz3239 | still doesn't work |
| 00:09.35 | bz3239 | i give up |
| 00:09.41 | Tupone | and what does it says? |
| 00:09.48 | bz3239 | cand find the file |
| 00:09.52 | bz3239 | cant* |
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| 00:10.57 | Tupone | put a # in front of any line where you have a file in the myconfig.conf |
| 00:11.22 | bz3239 | alright and is the bzfs suppose to be blank when its open or should it be closed? |
| 00:11.34 | bz3239 | bzfs.exe |
| 00:12.22 | Tupone | what you mean be blank? |
| 00:12.53 | bz3239 | like when its open it just doesn't say anything, its black |
| 00:13.04 | Tupone | it should say |
| 00:14.12 | bz3239 | ??? |
| 00:14.41 | Tupone | so have you commented the line with the file name ? |
| 00:15.02 | Tupone | in the myconfig.conf file? |
| 00:15.05 | bz3239 | all three |
| 00:15.27 | Tupone | and now bzfs -conf myconfig.conf ? what does it says? |
| 00:16.22 | bz3239 | let me try |
| 00:16.44 | bz3239 | still cant find it |
| 00:17.01 | Tupone | ok, I give up :) |
| 00:17.12 | bz3239 | lol thanks |
| 00:17.35 | bz3239 | maybe i should try it on my mac |
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| 03:35.47 | bryjen | how polite ;) |
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| 03:50.15 | Grumbler | we prefered being called right :) |
| 04:00.13 | Aribeth | lol |
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| 04:47.24 | QuantumBeep | Question: Are clueless users always going to have to hand-edit config files to download textures? |
| 04:47.43 | QuantumBeep | Permissions files, I mean |
| 04:48.40 | DTRemenak | QuantumBeep, I'm guessing that at some time a (moderated) texture repository will be set up on a bzflag.org server. |
| 04:49.36 | QuantumBeep | I see. I'm about to go make a map using my own textures, but if users will have to jump through hoops to use it, I'll wait a few months. |
| 04:49.47 | QuantumBeep | BZ has plenty of textures of it's own |
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| 05:10.15 | sgk284 | DTRemenak, perhaps if a host neither white listed or black listed is contacted to d/l a texture a question could be asked and the suer just says y/n |
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| 05:11.25 | sgk284 | maybe permenantly edit the config, or jsut let it through that one time, i dunno which would work better, once a texture is cached i guess thered be no reason to whitelist. if the texture is updated again and the client tries to d/l they'll just be asked permission again |
| 05:11.32 | DTRemenak | sgk284, I think part of the point was to allow whoever had machine control to restrict the users. Ask trepan about it. |
| 05:11.45 | sgk284 | ahh okay |
| 05:12.25 | DTRemenak | maybe a PROMPT keyword along with ALLOW and DENY would be cool |
| 05:12.28 | sgk284 | that probably doesnt sound right though... the config is in their home... which they'd have write access to (although that can be changed) |
| 05:12.45 | sgk284 | DTRemenak, hrrm yea thats a better solution |
| 05:13.34 | DTRemenak | more flexible anyway. could default to prompt * instead of deny * if people think it's a good idea. |
| 05:14.16 | sgk284 | although a moderated repo would probably make all of this a non-issue in most cases |
| 05:14.47 | DTRemenak | yeah. I think that was part of the logic...it encourages people to use a trusted repository |
| 05:14.54 | DTRemenak | but whatever |
| 05:15.04 | DTRemenak | I really have no opinion :) |
| 05:15.08 | sgk284 | hehe |
| 05:34.10 | uso | hi |
| 05:34.40 | uso | can i change transparency of the tanks in 2.0? |
| 05:35.25 | uso | or is that a server/map option? |
| 05:35.25 | blast007 | hmm, what exactly do you mean? |
| 05:35.42 | blast007 | you want to make tanks transparent? |
| 05:36.01 | uso | no, i want them back to not be transparent |
| 05:36.17 | MeBigFatGuy | tanks are transparent? |
| 05:36.36 | uso | the green tanks on hepcat are now much worse to see |
| 05:36.42 | blast007 | the only time they should be transparent is if someone has cloak (totally invisible) or if someone has Phantom Zone, and is zoned |
| 05:36.55 | uso | a bit like they all have phantom zone |
| 05:37.16 | uso | no, there are no falgs on hepcat |
| 05:37.20 | uso | flags |
| 05:37.34 | blast007 | hmm |
| 05:37.35 | uso | with 1.0 the tanks were solid green |
| 05:37.58 | uso | it's difficult to see (and shoot :)) them now |
| 05:37.59 | blast007 | I have yet to see transparent tanks without the use of flags |
| 05:38.21 | blast007 | is it like this for you on all servers? |
| 05:38.25 | uso | not that much as with phantomn zone |
| 05:39.05 | uso | never played a server with green tanks on 2.0 before |
| 05:39.48 | uso | red and blue seems to be ok, but they have a better contrast to ground in any case |
| 05:40.38 | uso | green tanks on green ground seem to have less contrast as in 1.10 |
| 05:41.09 | blast007 | they don't seem transparent to me, but they do blend in with the ground a bit |
| 05:41.31 | blast007 | you could adjust the texture they use |
| 05:43.14 | uso | have the colors changed a bit? |
| 05:44.00 | blast007 | might have |
| 05:44.01 | orchid | uso: open up std_ground.png in gimp and saturate it a little, works pretty good for the green tank/green ground problem |
| 05:44.12 | blast007 | I know 2.0 uses the high resolution textures now |
| 05:45.09 | blast007 | ah, yeah, or the ground texture :) |
| 05:45.48 | uso | hmm, a lot of things to adjust on 2.0 maually before it does it's job :( |
| 05:46.08 | uso | 1.10 runs out of the box ... good old days ;) |
| 05:46.37 | blast007 | 1.7 was the good old days :D |
| 05:47.24 | Aribeth | and tweaking is just part of the good old days |
| 05:48.20 | uso | ok, how to get rid of these new textures? can i copy all png files from 1.10 into /usr/local/share/bzflag? |
| 05:53.20 | uso | ha, seems to work :) |
| 05:55.35 | uso | what are the download permissions for? do i really need them? or is it only for upgrades? |
| 05:56.57 | sgk284 | uso, the client can now download textures from servers, that give or denies access to servers |
| 05:57.05 | sgk284 | you running cvs? |
| 05:57.12 | uso | yes |
| 05:57.14 | sgk284 | or was 2.0.1 released and i didn't hear about it |
| 05:57.16 | sgk284 | oh okay |
| 05:57.20 | sgk284 | :) |
| 05:57.28 | uso | nothing missed :) |
| 05:57.33 | sgk284 | 2.0.1 should be release soon |
| 05:57.41 | sgk284 | it was given the okay a few weeks ago |
| 05:58.28 | uso | i hoped it was a bit faster then 2.0.0 ... |
| 05:59.17 | sgk284 | 2.0.0 is slow? |
| 05:59.20 | uso | if this is only used for textures bzflag also runs without it, right? |
| 05:59.30 | sgk284 | uso, yea your fine without it |
| 05:59.38 | uso | slower then 1.10 |
| 05:59.43 | sgk284 | in what regards? |
| 05:59.49 | uso | fps |
| 06:00.42 | sgk284 | so slow that its affecting game play? |
| 06:00.43 | uso | if i switch of radar, console and all effects it nearly reaches the fps rate of 1.10 |
| 06:01.04 | uso | but in a real game it falls a lot behind |
| 06:01.12 | sgk284 | alot of the rendering stuff has changed |
| 06:01.14 | sgk284 | :/ |
| 06:01.22 | uso | for me yes, but i may have vsync problems |
| 06:01.31 | sgk284 | the plus is that we now have cool effects like snow and mirrors:) |
| 06:01.35 | sgk284 | nd can render meshes |
| 06:01.38 | sgk284 | and* |
| 06:02.05 | uso | i know, thats for the funny multimedia childs :) |
| 06:02.54 | uso | and they all have the high end hardware for playing it |
| 06:03.04 | sgk284 | hehe |
| 06:03.09 | sgk284 | whats your fps? |
| 06:03.41 | uso | 30 .. 40 fps in game |
| 06:04.12 | uso | i still have not found how to set vsync option for my video driver |
| 06:04.49 | blast007 | that's about what I get on my GeForce FX 5200, which might be low due to it being Windows XP with 3 logged on users :) |
| 06:04.53 | uso | so i have double pictures and some kind of blurring while moving/rotating |
| 06:05.05 | sgk284 | uso, is that set in your xorg.conf? |
| 06:05.27 | uso | have xfree86, not xorg |
| 06:05.33 | sgk284 | yuck |
| 06:05.35 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 06:06.04 | uso | debian still has xfree :( |
| 06:06.09 | sgk284 | regardless, isn't it set in your x conf? |
| 06:06.20 | sgk284 | xfree-4.conf is it? |
| 06:06.23 | sgk284 | something like that... |
| 06:06.28 | sgk284 | iirc, its been a bit |
| 06:06.44 | Pizbit | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.52 | sgk284 | thats it:) |
| 06:06.54 | uso | do i really set this for the server? not for the environmenbt of bzflag? |
| 06:08.11 | sgk284 | i would think yes, but i'm not the most qualified person to answer that... i dont really play with my vid card config too much |
| 06:08.34 | Pizbit | No idea heh |
| 06:08.54 | uso | afair the vsync/hsync options in the mode lines are for the polarity of the sync impulses, not for refresh synchronization, aren't they? |
| 06:09.41 | sgk284 | does that double picture thing only happen in bzflag or for other 3d stuff too? |
| 06:09.53 | uso | no, quake2 is running fine |
| 06:10.04 | blast007 | in other things, he gets a frame rate high enough that it's not noticable |
| 06:10.56 | uso | thats the problem, and bzflag 2.0 falls below this threshold |
| 06:12.02 | uso | if i'm on an empty map frame rates increasing up to 100 and the effect is much smaller |
| 06:13.27 | sgk284 | uso, in the xorg.conf you can set vert refresh, it may be similar in xf86config-4, check the man pages |
| 06:13.39 | uso | i'm on it |
| 06:13.48 | sgk284 | or wait until the next release and hope the rendering code has been cleaned up ;) |
| 06:13.57 | blast007 | you can set the refresh, but I don't see anything that enables v-sync |
| 06:14.20 | uso | i'm checking cvs every day :) |
| 06:15.38 | uso | "+HSync" and "-HSync" can be used to select the polarity of the HSync signal. |
| 06:15.43 | uso | as i remember |
| 06:16.02 | uso | resp. vsync |
| 06:19.22 | uso | i know there are options to set anti aliasing and some filtering options by environment variables for every gl program |
| 06:19.44 | uso | but i forgot where i had red this |
| 06:21.16 | sgk284 | well i've got to get back to work, good luck |
| 06:21.58 | uso | thanks |
| 06:27.41 | uso | btw, the green tanks are the only ones which have a finer texture in 2.0, all other colors are the same |
| 06:28.11 | uso | good to know, gives a little advantage for greens, they are a bit more cloaked :) |
| 06:33.54 | blast007 | uso: I'm trying to recall...do you have a Radeon 9200? or am I thinking of someone else? |
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| 06:55.19 | uso | yes, radeon 9200 |
| 06:59.13 | uso | afair it was you who gave me the hint with 16 bit graphics mode |
| 07:12.22 | jpa_ | enabling sync-frames-to-vsync was some envirioment variable |
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| 07:29.53 | SilverFox | Will a /reload restore stuff from the map file (ie, the options block) ? |
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| 07:32.23 | jpa_ | humm, isn't it /reset for that |
| 07:32.41 | jpa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:34.35 | SilverFox | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:35.24 | jpa_ | how is that different from the default? |
| 07:35.37 | jpa_ | the default is the same as what was loaded from the file |
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| 07:45.41 | Silver1 | say for instance, I specify "-set _tankSpeed 5" in my options block (or in the conf, or whatever), that is different then what the default is (25) |
| 07:47.02 | Pimpinella | SilverFox: not sure if it won't reload the values from vars file, but cou might be true with command line options |
| 07:47.48 | Pimpinella | (and therefor also from options in world file) |
| 07:57.22 | jpa_ | Silver1: arf |
| 07:57.26 | jpa_ | Silver1: have you tested? |
| 07:58.00 | jpa_ | it does not care of the default |
| 07:58.10 | jpa_ | it cares what is the default for _your_ server |
| 07:59.31 | Silver1 | jpa_, no I need to. |
| 07:59.58 | Silver1 | I thought it did program defaults, not command line configuration (which is better) I'll test. |
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| 09:02.36 | Pimpinella | learner: ping |
| 09:02.45 | Pimpinella | already sleeping? |
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| 09:06.11 | _Manu_ | Pimpinella, hello! |
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| 09:09.06 | Pimpinella | hi _M^ |
| 09:09.09 | Pimpinella | hi _Manu_ |
| 09:09.15 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 09:09.49 | Pimpinella | time for a new build today? |
| 09:10.04 | _Manu_ | yep.. :) |
| 09:10.56 | Pimpinella | i can allow setperms for single groups now, wan't to see it in a real life test :) |
| 09:11.01 | _Manu_ | and remomended... because some bugs have been fixed now |
| 09:11.09 | _Manu_ | ok |
| 09:11.46 | Pimpinella | do you want anything in it thats not yet committed? |
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| 09:12.20 | _Manu_ | well.. my admin patches are not ready for actual cvs version |
| 09:12.49 | Pimpinella | k, will you send me the latest stuff? |
| 09:13.02 | Pimpinella | or is it what i already have>? |
| 09:13.04 | _Manu_ | can.. but i need a little time.. |
| 09:13.10 | Pimpinella | sure |
| 09:13.14 | _Manu_ | is the same.. but must patch by hand |
| 09:13.34 | _Manu_ | and not addint the endShot stuff because it's in cvs |
| 09:13.50 | _Manu_ | simply addind nkick and nban from commands.cxx |
| 09:14.01 | _Manu_ | and the slot add to email. |
| 09:14.19 | Pimpinella | thats all? |
| 09:14.26 | _Manu_ | you can add easily i think |
| 09:14.32 | _Manu_ | yes... |
| 09:14.33 | Pimpinella | np, i can do that from what i have |
| 09:14.52 | _Manu_ | yes.. i know.. really removing endshot my patch must go fine |
| 09:15.12 | _Manu_ | i'm working in integrating in kick and ban |
| 09:15.30 | _Manu_ | and also fixing the removeplayer bug, this is critical |
| 09:15.52 | _Manu_ | because as you know one kick ban crash the server |
| 09:15.52 | Pimpinella | we had a speed cheater tonight :( |
| 09:16.00 | _Manu_ | mmm.... |
| 09:16.01 | Pimpinella | yep ;) |
| 09:16.18 | _Manu_ | yes i can imagine it.. actuall anti-speed is easy to lier |
| 09:16.41 | _Manu_ | but mine not... :) |
| 09:16.52 | Pimpinella | visitor, cu later :) |
| 09:16.57 | _Manu_ | cya |
| 09:17.34 | _Manu_ | correction: because as you know one kick can crash the server some times |
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| 11:39.12 | darkk | http://www.tcpsecurity.com/ |
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| 11:44.57 | Pimpinella | hey, i was searching for years for a trukish site about tcp security ;) |
| 11:45.04 | Pimpinella | turkish |
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| 12:04.14 | javaJake | where DOES redsoxfan90 goto anyway> |
| 12:04.16 | javaJake | ?* |
| 12:04.46 | Pimpinella | hm? |
| 12:05.17 | javaJake | What channels do redsoxfan90 goto? |
| 12:05.19 | Birdie | why do you want to reach him anyway? |
| 12:05.30 | javaJake | I know, he's horrible. |
| 12:05.34 | Pimpinella | ~seen redsoxfan90 |
| 12:05.36 | ibot | redsoxfan90 <Redsoxfan9@h000c6e3d2914.ne.client2.attbi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 8d 14h 24m 8s ago, saying: 'hey tim'. |
| 12:05.40 | Birdie | send him a bzmail if you want to reach him |
| 12:05.40 | Pimpinella | he's a kid |
| 12:05.43 | javaJake | But if you ignore tha part, he's ok. |
| 12:06.03 | javaJake | HE IS? |
| 12:06.09 | javaJake | Figures.... |
| 12:06.26 | Birdie | he is 14 15 |
| 12:06.31 | Pimpinella | younger iirc |
| 12:06.32 | Birdie | minimum 10 |
| 12:06.54 | Birdie | that 90 is his birthday year |
| 12:07.02 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 12:07.07 | Birdie | i heard |
| 12:07.29 | Birdie | and he is a bit "to smart" to be 10 year old |
| 12:07.38 | javaJake | what are your reasons for those guesses? |
| 12:07.40 | Pimpinella | thought 90 had something to do with the redsox team or something |
| 12:08.07 | Pimpinella | he's smart? never figured out that... |
| 12:08.13 | javaJake | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:08.23 | javaJake | :-) |
| 12:08.25 | Birdie | he ever said/did something smart? |
| 12:08.30 | javaJake | (To Pimpenella |
| 12:08.32 | javaJake | )* |
| 12:08.44 | javaJake | Not really.... |
| 12:09.14 | [dmp] | so youngsters cant be smart? :) |
| 12:09.39 | Birdie | some can, he cant:) |
| 12:09.42 | javaJake | No, they can. |
| 12:09.43 | Pimpinella | sure they can |
| 12:10.08 | javaJake | Some young people are really smart. This one isn't AS smart as we'd all like. |
| 12:10.37 | Birdie | dont use the word smart for him, he is just donig stupid and trying to be an ass |
| 12:11.06 | javaJake | Uh oh, is there an op here? |
| 12:11.15 | javaJake | Bad birdie, bad birdie! |
| 12:11.17 | javaJake | :-) |
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| 12:11.52 | javaJake | i qquit on accident. Sorry. |
| 12:11.59 | javaJake | bye all |
| 12:14.02 | [dmp] | seems like its a net thing. People act like maniacs because the dont risk to face their "targets" - they are "anonymous". That goes for both children and adults. |
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| 16:44.15 | orchid | blah blah emacs is too powerful for me blah blah colors blah blah |
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| 16:46.50 | felix_bbn | hi all |
| 16:46.58 | orchid | hello |
| 16:47.17 | felix_bbn | im thinking about setting up a bzflag server |
| 16:47.37 | Pimpinella | orchid: you have a good time? ;) |
| 16:47.41 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 16:48.04 | Pimpinella | felix_bbn: always a good idea |
| 16:48.08 | brlcad | ~141 + 68 |
| 16:48.09 | ibot | 209 |
| 16:48.11 | felix_bbn | but theres much to read |
| 16:48.16 | orchid | Pimpinella: yes, arguing emacs vs vim is always fun :) |
| 16:48.54 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10admin/master-bans.txt: cleanup of a ban that dosnt' do anything anymore. |
| 16:50.24 | felix_bbn | do i need a good CPU for running Bzflag Server... |
| 16:50.24 | _Manu_ | brlcad, hola! |
| 16:50.39 | JeffM2501 | it dosnt' take that much cpu |
| 16:50.53 | orchid | felix_bbn: nope, need bandwith more than cpu/ram |
| 16:50.54 | felix_bbn | ok i have athlon 2600..about 50% idle |
| 16:51.07 | felix_bbn | hm... i have 200 Gigs free traffic each month |
| 16:51.10 | JeffM2501 | that should be pllenty fine |
| 16:51.18 | felix_bbn | and want something todo with |
| 16:51.18 | _Manu_ | bzflag server runs over a 80386 |
| 16:51.20 | Pimpinella | felix_bbn: a pentium 200 MHz is more than enough |
| 16:51.26 | felix_bbn | ok |
| 16:52.03 | felix_bbn | and i dont kill my debian server by atp-get Bzflag ? |
| 16:52.09 | felix_bbn | ??? |
| 16:52.23 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 16:52.25 | amathis | eh? |
| 16:52.26 | Pimpinella | ? |
| 16:52.27 | JeffM2501 | bzfs is just an app |
| 16:52.37 | felix_bbn | killer-application ;) |
| 16:52.38 | _Manu_ | well you can compile bzflag and using whithout installing it |
| 16:52.39 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't use any services or deamons or antying |
| 16:52.42 | brlcad | _Manu_: hola |
| 16:52.46 | Pimpinella | you need bzflag-server though |
| 16:52.52 | felix_bbn | good...nice...thx |
| 16:53.00 | felix_bbn | let me read a little more in the wiki |
| 16:53.04 | Pimpinella | apt-get install bzflag-server |
| 16:53.46 | felix_bbn | i do after i understand the configuration file a little... |
| 16:53.49 | Pimpinella | felix_bbn: what distribution do you run there? |
| 16:54.01 | felix_bbn | debian-woody |
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| 16:54.08 | Legolas_ | nhello |
| 16:54.11 | Legolas_ | nhello |
| 16:54.16 | Legolas_ | hello |
| 16:54.19 | Pimpinella | then you don't want the woody package |
| 16:54.21 | Legolas_ | * |
| 16:54.30 | JeffM2501 | get sarge or source |
| 16:54.47 | Pimpinella | or better build from sources |
| 16:54.49 | Legolas_ | have any of you started a sever on mac osx |
| 16:54.57 | Pimpinella | yep |
| 16:55.00 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 16:55.12 | Legolas_ | what did you save it as |
| 16:55.13 | felix_bbn | uh.... build from source..me? makefile...oh no |
| 16:55.19 | Pimpinella | oh, not actually running though |
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| 16:55.47 | Legolas_ | how bout you Jeff |
| 16:55.59 | amathis | felix_bbn: it is very simple |
| 16:55.59 | Pimpinella | ./configure;make;make install |
| 16:56.05 | Pimpinella | nothing to worry about |
| 16:56.08 | JeffM2501 | what do you mean? |
| 16:56.11 | JeffM2501 | yeah I've run one |
| 16:56.13 | Legolas_ | what did you save it as |
| 16:56.14 | JeffM2501 | what about it? |
| 16:56.19 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 16:56.23 | Legolas_ | what did you save it as |
| 16:56.28 | JeffM2501 | save WHAT as? |
| 16:56.30 | Pimpinella | safe what? |
| 16:56.34 | Legolas_ | the config |
| 16:56.40 | JeffM2501 | a text file |
| 16:56.46 | Legolas_ | RTF |
| 16:56.48 | Legolas_ | n?? |
| 16:56.51 | _Manu_ | no.. plain text |
| 16:56.53 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't have to go in a special place |
| 16:56.58 | JeffM2501 | it's JUST TEXT |
| 16:57.01 | Legolas_ | oh |
| 16:57.06 | JeffM2501 | then you tell it where it is on the config like |
| 16:57.12 | JeffM2501 | it runs just like linux |
| 16:57.20 | Pimpinella | macosx is a unix system, unix doesn't know anything else but files |
| 16:57.40 | Pimpinella | no text nor binary, just files |
| 16:57.45 | JeffM2501 | Pimpinella, actualy it knows much more :) |
| 16:57.51 | Legolas_ | well i have a mac os x and it says cant find config file |
| 16:58.03 | felix_bbn | hm...what about that page? http://packages.debian.org/unstable/games/bzflag |
| 16:58.14 | Pimpinella | JeffM2501: sure, but thats not what he concerns about |
| 16:58.21 | _Manu_ | felix_bbn, unstable is not woody |
| 16:58.23 | JeffM2501 | Legolas_, there IS NO CONFIG |
| 16:58.24 | JeffM2501 | you make one |
| 16:58.33 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't ship with one for the server |
| 16:58.38 | JeffM2501 | you don't even NEED one |
| 16:58.44 | felix_bbn | k...thx |
| 16:58.48 | JeffM2501 | read the starting a server post lego |
| 16:59.14 | Pimpinella | whoooo, Jeff silenced them ;) |
| 16:59.22 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 16:59.27 | JeffM2501 | oh he just quit |
| 16:59.31 | JeffM2501 | kids these days |
| 16:59.34 | JeffM2501 | they just can't read |
| 16:59.35 | Pimpinella | ;) |
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| 17:02.19 | Legolas_ | nhi agian |
| 17:02.23 | JeffM2501 | hi |
| 17:02.31 | Legolas_ | ni still cant get it |
| 17:02.34 | JeffM2501 | you make your config |
| 17:02.38 | JeffM2501 | we don't ship one |
| 17:02.43 | JeffM2501 | you don't even need one |
| 17:02.53 | Legolas_ | ??? |
| 17:02.54 | JeffM2501 | read the post on starting a server |
| 17:03.00 | amathis | oh my |
| 17:03.01 | Legolas_ | Where |
| 17:03.06 | JeffM2501 | the server config is just a nice way to start a server |
| 17:03.11 | JeffM2501 | you can put it all in the command line |
| 17:03.12 | amathis | 34 days to download Stargate SG-1 Season 6 |
| 17:03.13 | amathis | >_< |
| 17:03.13 | JeffM2501 | on bzbb |
| 17:03.26 | Legolas_ | ok |
| 17:03.58 | JeffM2501 | do you know how to use your terminal? |
| 17:04.11 | Pimpinella | JeffM2501: unique(info.setThis.begin(), info.setThis.end()) results in a segfault, i think because unique can't take an end iterator, might unique(info.setThis.begin(), --info.setThis.end()) be what i want instead? (btw. setThis is a vector) |
| 17:04.48 | JeffM2501 | running a server on OSX is not a point a click thingy |
| 17:05.02 | JeffM2501 | Pimpinella, probalby STL implementation specific |
| 17:05.07 | JeffM2501 | does it work if oyu change it? |
| 17:05.52 | Pimpinella | it works (or at least it doesn't segfault), but i'm not sure if it does what i want |
| 17:06.05 | Pimpinella | testing |
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| 17:14.19 | felix_bbn | hm... now i have bzflag server 1.7e... |
| 17:15.07 | orchid | yes, woody's version |
| 17:15.31 | orchid | you should apt-get remove that, no use to you |
| 17:16.06 | felix_bbn | yeah 2.0 is the new? |
| 17:16.10 | orchid | just compile the new version in ~/ even, you dont need to install it system wide if you dont want to |
| 17:16.14 | orchid | yes 2.0 |
| 17:16.21 | felix_bbn | anyway i dont even know yet where its intalled to |
| 17:18.04 | Pimpinella | /usr/games/bzfs |
| 17:18.34 | felix_bbn | hm? only 3 files where there |
| 17:18.46 | felix_bbn | its already removed anyway |
| 17:19.06 | Pimpinella | there's not very much that installs to /usr/games... |
| 17:19.44 | felix_bbn | yes |
| 17:20.39 | felix_bbn | but is that not true: |
| 17:20.39 | felix_bbn | Debian build of 2.0.0.20050118 has been uploaded to unstable. apt-get install bzflag bzflag-server |
| 17:21.01 | felix_bbn | or perhaps i need to edit my source llist |
| 17:21.22 | Pimpinella | felix_bbn: if you want a deb, you can get the cvs version, go to the sources base directors and run 'debian/buildsnap cvs' |
| 17:21.55 | Pimpinella | this will result in your desired deb |
| 17:22.20 | Pimpinella | presumed you have a working build system installed |
| 17:22.58 | felix_bbn | cvs - version? |
| 17:23.22 | felix_bbn | ah ok sourceforge |
| 17:23.28 | Pimpinella | go to a directory where you want the sources |
| 17:23.39 | Pimpinella | sourceforge, yes |
| 17:24.01 | Pimpinella | not the tarball though |
| 17:24.09 | Pimpinella | might work with it too |
| 17:24.19 | felix_bbn | tarball wouldnot work i think |
| 17:24.21 | felix_bbn | no rpm |
| 17:24.53 | Pimpinella | well, go to your desired directory |
| 17:24.56 | Pimpinella | then: |
| 17:25.28 | Pimpinella | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co bzflag |
| 17:25.56 | Pimpinella | to get the very latest stuff |
| 17:27.32 | felix_bbn | yup let me first apt-get cvs...whatever it is, i install it |
| 17:28.18 | Pimpinella | apt-get install cvs |
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| 17:29.14 | felix_bbn | http://www.debian.org/doc/cvs |
| 17:29.20 | felix_bbn | reading...seems to be okay |
| 17:29.50 | Pimpinella | now rm -rf / |
| 17:29.53 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 17:29.56 | Pimpinella | don't |
| 17:29.57 | orchid | no |
| 17:30.01 | Pimpinella | just in case |
| 17:30.11 | Pimpinella | stupid me... |
| 17:30.28 | Pimpinella | he couldn't understand...i know |
| 17:31.09 | felix_bbn | i dont delete |
| 17:31.14 | felix_bbn | anything i need |
| 17:31.19 | felix_bbn | ;) |
| 17:31.58 | Pimpinella | well, was meant as a joke, but somebody could do... |
| 17:32.16 | felix_bbn | who knows... |
| 17:33.15 | felix_bbn | now i need the new client myself |
| 17:33.30 | felix_bbn | i was playing with 1.10.8 |
| 17:33.40 | Pimpinella | you will get it too this way |
| 17:34.04 | felix_bbn | my workstation is a shitty-pitty windows |
| 17:34.23 | Pimpinella | hast du das cvs commando gemacht? |
| 17:35.28 | Pimpinella | did u run the cvs commnd? |
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| 17:36.36 | felix_bbn | sprich doch gleich deutsch |
| 17:36.47 | felix_bbn | its finished |
| 17:37.37 | Pimpinella | cd bzflag |
| 17:38.00 | Pimpinella | debian/buildsnap cvs |
| 17:38.51 | felix_bbn | ok moment |
| 17:40.37 | felix_bbn | hm... |
| 17:41.00 | Pimpinella | hm? |
| 17:41.29 | felix_bbn | dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: debhelper (>= 3), xlibs-dev, xlibmesa-gl-dev | libgl-dev, xlibmesa-glu-dev | libglu-dev, libsdl1.2-dev | libsdl-dev, libadns1-dev, libcurl3-dev | libcurl-dev |
| 17:41.29 | felix_bbn | dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting. |
| 17:43.16 | Pimpinella | hast du das system bei dir oder ist das remote? |
| 17:43.40 | felix_bbn | dedi-server |
| 17:43.46 | felix_bbn | bin da per ssh |
| 17:44.08 | Pimpinella | jo, dachte ich mir... |
| 17:44.57 | Pimpinella | ich will das heute sowieso noch bauen, kann ich dir ein deb mitmachen und zuschicken wenn du willst |
| 17:45.20 | felix_bbn | ok gerne ;) |
| 17:45.53 | Pimpinella | schick ne email an pimpinella@pimpi.org, dann hab ich deine adresse |
| 17:47.05 | felix_bbn | ok... |
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| 17:54.01 | felix_bbn | hab die mail gesendet |
| 17:54.37 | Pimpinella | k, muß noch 'n bischen arbeiten, damm mach ich das nachher |
| 17:55.53 | felix_bbn | eben den make mit dem *.tar file hab ich garnoch nicht versucht |
| 17:56.37 | felix_bbn | lieber gleich warten und dann deins testen |
| 17:56.39 | felix_bbn | ;) |
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| 18:12.31 | orchid | P src/bzflag/Player.h |
| 18:20.47 | menotume | P ? |
| 18:22.51 | menotume | ~seen quol |
| 18:22.52 | ibot | quol <~Quol@modemcable103.129-200-24.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 20d 4h 23m 31s ago, saying: 'hello me1 '. |
| 18:23.12 | menotume | ~seen quol_detached |
| 18:23.13 | ibot | quol_detached <~quolsimo@65.39.216.149> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 153d 14h 17m 33s ago, saying: 'hmm'. |
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| 18:33.04 | Jormungandr | Trying to run BZEdit1.6.2 using wine, its giving me this: Please use the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\Software\Fonts\LogPixels : to set the screen resolution and remove the "Resolution" entry in the config file : err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\BZEdit1.6.2\\BZEdit32.exe" failed, status c0000142 : Wine failed with return code 1. IAnyone know what its telling me here? |
| 18:34.24 | Jormungandr | I've imported the .DLL kit provided, and place them in the BZEdit1.6.2 dir. |
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| 18:38.13 | JeffM2501 | your wine isn't set up right |
| 18:40.10 | Jormungandr | JeffM2501, What i do wrong? |
| 18:42.22 | Aribeth_away | does anyone have a recomendation on a good place where i could lease a server? |
| 18:43.58 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 18:44.12 | JeffM2501 | but it sounds like your registry isn't set right |
| 18:44.31 | JeffM2501 | Aribeth, nid may know the most about that kinda stuff. |
| 18:44.54 | Aribeth | thanks |
| 18:46.01 | Aribeth | ~seen Nidhoggr |
| 18:46.03 | ibot | nidhoggr is currently on #bzflag. Has said a total of 63 messages. Is idling for 20h 9m 25s |
| 18:47.38 | Jormungandr | hmm. registry options: Load globel registry flies (stored in /etc) : Load home registry files (stored in ~/.wine) : Load window registry files : Write to home registry files, are all checked |
| 18:49.39 | Tupone | Aribeth, learner should know too |
| 18:49.51 | Aribeth | thanks |
| 18:50.13 | Aribeth | i finaly have the money to do it |
| 18:51.02 | Aribeth | im also looking at colomart. 1GB transfer, 2.4ghz cpu for 65.00 |
| 18:51.17 | Tupone | x month? |
| 18:51.25 | Aribeth | per month |
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| 19:12.04 | SportChick | Aribeth: have you seen Louman's Twin Peaks server yet? very cool! |
| 19:12.28 | Aribeth | SportChick, yes i have. Its way cool |
| 19:13.40 | Aribeth | SportChick, sleepycows will have a new hi speed server soon |
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| 19:22.22 | ToughShooter | SportChick: Have you seen my map? Do you like it? |
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| 19:22.45 | rabbit25 | hi! |
| 19:26.25 | learner | Aribeth, 1GB/month isn't much bandwidth at all .. you mean 1TB? or 1GB/s ? |
| 19:26.55 | Aribeth | learner, its actualy 1000 GB per month |
| 19:27.05 | learner | so ~1TB/month :) |
| 19:27.10 | Aribeth | yes |
| 19:28.04 | Aribeth | lerner, any recomendations? |
| 19:28.21 | learner | looking for colocation or dedicated? |
| 19:28.29 | Aribeth | dedicated |
| 19:28.56 | Aribeth | im looking at colomart right now |
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| 19:35.43 | learner | yeah |
| 19:36.43 | learner | do you have ping times to them? |
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| 19:46.44 | ToughShooter | ~x en de connotations |
| 19:46.55 | ToughShooter | ~dict connotations |
| 19:47.12 | ToughShooter | ~dict connotation |
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| 19:51.28 | stevek | hey ts |
| 19:55.33 | Grumbler | its not long for this desk |
| 19:56.06 | Grumbler | the middle wheel click is instantly painful |
| 19:57.43 | ToughShooter | Hi stevek |
| 19:58.40 | ToughShooter | I hate my wireless mouse, it makes the batteries low power so soon and that's always while playing BZFlag :-( |
| 20:00.35 | jpa_ | use joystick |
| 20:09.28 | Jormungandr | ~bzfsquery jormungandr.homedns.org:9001 |
| 20:10.38 | Jormungandr | ~bzfquery jormungandr.homedns.org:9001 |
| 20:11.54 | *** part/#bzflag ToughShooter (~ts@pD9EA7182.dip.t-dialin.net) |
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| 20:26.26 | felix_bbn | im back with my problems |
| 20:26.39 | felix_bbn | *smile* |
| 20:27.15 | jpa_ | :( |
| 20:27.17 | *** join/#bzflag gina (~gigi@22-193.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 20:27.24 | jpa_ | hi gina :) |
| 20:28.10 | gina | hi jpa_ |
| 20:28.12 | gina | :p |
| 20:28.25 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 20:28.29 | jpa_ | ~dict tan |
| 20:28.44 | gina | ?! |
| 20:29.05 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 20:29.18 | jpa_ | ibot knows everything but is not very good at explaining it |
| 20:29.19 | ibot | jpa_: okay |
| 20:29.28 | jpa_ | xD |
| 20:29.39 | jpa_ | ibot knows everything but |
| 20:29.40 | ibot | i guess knows everything but is not very good at explaining it |
| 20:29.54 | jpa_ | ibot forget knows everything but |
| 20:29.54 | ibot | i forgot knows everything but, jpa_ |
| 20:30.00 | jpa_ | xD |
| 20:30.52 | gina | ibot you're great as ever |
| 20:31.26 | gina | ibot, fell asleep?? |
| 20:31.46 | jpa_ | nope |
| 20:31.51 | jpa_ | it does not know 're |
| 20:32.21 | gina | lol |
| 20:32.24 | felix_bbn | installation of bzfalg is impossible |
| 20:32.28 | felix_bbn | ;( |
| 20:32.31 | gina | felix_bbn: why? |
| 20:32.34 | felix_bbn | why? |
| 20:32.43 | gina | which os |
| 20:32.56 | jpa_ | it is good that it is.. it is highly addictive and causes only frustration |
| 20:33.19 | felix_bbn | Running programs may not be able to do NSS lookups until they are restarted. |
| 20:33.19 | felix_bbn | Some services can not accept all authentication after extracting glibc |
| 20:33.19 | felix_bbn | package into your system. |
| 20:33.28 | felix_bbn | glibc |
| 20:33.34 | felix_bbn | i need a new from debian unstable |
| 20:33.37 | felix_bbn | i dont want it |
| 20:34.00 | jpa_ | stuck with debian woody? :( |
| 20:34.04 | jpa_ | i feel bad for you |
| 20:34.28 | jpa_ | even running server on woody seems to be quite difficult.. it does not work perfectly |
| 20:34.31 | felix_bbn | i dont want to kill the server with bzfalg |
| 20:34.54 | Aribeth | how about FreeBSD? |
| 20:34.57 | jpa_ | so do you want to play or have server on it? |
| 20:35.03 | felix_bbn | naa server |
| 20:35.06 | jpa_ | oh |
| 20:35.07 | felix_bbn | play with windows |
| 20:35.15 | jpa_ | it should be possible |
| 20:35.22 | jpa_ | just --disable-client in configure |
| 20:35.30 | Aribeth | FreeBSD is a good server os |
| 20:37.10 | felix_bbn | i can run a server but only old version |
| 20:37.26 | jpa_ | why not new? |
| 20:37.32 | jpa_ | are you using source or binary? |
| 20:38.51 | orchid | felix_bbn: I can compile 2.0 on my woody server, it has no xwindows installed, but runs the server fine |
| 20:39.07 | jpa_ | orchid: yeah, me too |
| 20:39.24 | jpa_ | orchid: it just does not support object param top for some reason |
| 20:40.12 | felix_bbn | hm... |
| 20:40.30 | felix_bbn | i cant proceed with installation if he cut my ssh connection |
| 20:40.51 | jpa_ | felix_bbn: are you using source or binary? |
| 20:41.09 | felix_bbn | apt-get, cvs, |
| 20:41.14 | felix_bbn | .tar file |
| 20:41.20 | felix_bbn | everything i tried ;) |
| 20:41.34 | jpa_ | so, when using source, where does it halt? |
| 20:41.37 | felix_bbn | now i have some files in /usr/games/ |
| 20:41.41 | felix_bbn | but no documentation at all |
| 20:42.43 | felix_bbn | at ./configure |
| 20:42.56 | jpa_ | with what error? |
| 20:43.29 | felix_bbn | some missing packages like that glibc |
| 20:43.58 | jpa_ | umm.. missing glibc sounds bad |
| 20:44.08 | felix_bbn | with atp-get and unstable in source it qould work, but im not sure there |
| 20:44.16 | felix_bbn | in source.list |
| 20:44.30 | felix_bbn | not sure what i do... |
| 20:44.47 | felix_bbn | i am a debian user, not a debian developper ;) |
| 20:45.12 | orchid | felix_bbn: best not mix woody source with unstable |
| 20:45.25 | orchid | especially if you only want bzfs |
| 20:45.37 | Aribeth | eek, not good to mix |
| 20:46.14 | orchid | I would remove all unstable from /etc/apt/sources.list and apt0get update, then try to solve the bzfs problem |
| 20:46.44 | felix_bbn | i have removed already and did a new update |
| 20:46.50 | orchid | ok.. |
| 20:47.21 | felix_bbn | i cant find the ../data in usr/share |
| 20:49.11 | felix_bbn | thats so annoying working with debian, know chance to know where all the data going to installed |
| 20:49.25 | jpa_ | bzfs uses no data |
| 20:49.45 | felix_bbn | "- the data files are stored in /usr/share/bzflag/data" |
| 20:49.54 | jpa_ | it is for the client |
| 20:49.54 | felix_bbn | bzfs... |
| 20:49.56 | Birdie | chestal: tried to join as a 5th red and couldnt |
| 20:50.03 | felix_bbn | what? |
| 20:50.04 | Birdie | you found the bug? |
| 20:50.06 | felix_bbn | i installed server |
| 20:50.13 | felix_bbn | not client |
| 20:50.52 | Chestal | Birdie: no, I am running a more recent version, though |
| 20:50.54 | felix_bbn | aerm |
| 20:51.25 | jpa_ | felix_bbn: it shouldn't install data files then |
| 20:51.56 | felix_bbn | why not? |
| 20:52.41 | felix_bbn | what |
| 20:52.43 | felix_bbn | how? |
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| 20:53.56 | Grumbler | for those curious to see how the dragon is coming along.... 163.83.13.211:5555 dont go unless you have some decent hardware |
| 20:54.27 | Aribeth | good hardware i got |
| 20:54.28 | Grumbler | ....and its a bit on the large size |
| 20:54.46 | Grumbler | but it is worth flying around |
| 20:55.16 | felix_bbn | ok again |
| 20:55.19 | felix_bbn | does anyone know |
| 20:55.21 | felix_bbn | why |
| 20:55.25 | felix_bbn | "- the data files are stored in /usr/share/bzflag/data" |
| 20:55.30 | felix_bbn | THEY ARENT? |
| 20:55.53 | orchid | felix_bbn: these files are for bzflag the client, not bzfs the server |
| 20:56.37 | Aribeth | hummm...error connecting to server |
| 20:57.17 | Aribeth | Grumbler, i get error connecting to server |
| 20:57.45 | felix_bbn | ok...and where are the one for the server?` |
| 20:58.12 | felix_bbn | i mean thats what i want to now without using find, i want to read it, but i dondt know where |
| 20:58.43 | Grumbler | yeah, actually i get the same error, then i try again and it works....not sure what is going on there...but the bzfs is head, so maybe there is something there |
| 21:01.08 | felix_bbn | ok nobody can help |
| 21:01.19 | orchid | felix_bbn: you want to read the docs? download http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/bzflag/bzflag-2.0.0.20050117.tar.bz2 ; extract into your ~/ |
| 21:01.37 | Aribeth | Grumbler, im running 2.0.1 cvs. still cant connect |
| 21:02.01 | orchid | felix_bbn: cd into the new dir and you will find documentation, instructions to build and manpages |
| 21:02.20 | Grumbler | hmmm, i have to look at the logs.... |
| 21:05.29 | felix_bbn | @orchid |
| 21:05.55 | felix_bbn | this documentation is packed in a format i dont know |
| 21:06.04 | felix_bbn | im sry i cant use this |
| 21:06.08 | orchid | the manpages? |
| 21:07.04 | orchid | nroff -man bzfs.6s | less |
| 21:07.13 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (HUDRenderer.cxx playing.cxx): Correctly set the local z when driving with a tank. Fix rendering when driving with a tank with BU in observer mode. |
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| 21:08.23 | felix_bbn | bzfs \- BZFlag game server |
| 21:08.23 | felix_bbn | .SH SYNOPSIS |
| 21:08.23 | felix_bbn | .B bzfs |
| 21:08.24 | felix_bbn | [\fB\-a \fIvelocity\fR \fIrotation\fR] |
| 21:08.27 | Grumbler | of course it doesnt help that i am losing my connection |
| 21:08.43 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 21:08.48 | felix_bbn | [\fB\-a \fIvelocity\fR \fIrotation\fR].... sure thats what i really dont need |
| 21:09.01 | orchid | felix_bbn: ok, thats the format of a manpage |
| 21:09.30 | _Manu_ | try man -l bzfs.6s |
| 21:09.32 | felix_bbn | yes and needs to be installed in some way |
| 21:09.43 | felix_bbn | which is the what that does NOT WORK |
| 21:09.51 | felix_bbn | bzflag-server (1.7e4) |
| 21:09.54 | felix_bbn | is what i have now |
| 21:10.31 | Aribeth | well that bzflag server is old |
| 21:10.46 | Grumbler | ah well, i shut it down.......to bad, just have to wait till i can get some pics |
| 21:10.48 | menotume | very old - incompatilbe |
| 21:11.16 | Aribeth | Grumbler, np. pics are fine |
| 21:11.50 | felix_bbn | yes...very very old |
| 21:12.01 | felix_bbn | and the other ones are unstable |
| 21:12.28 | menotume | 1.10.8 is stable |
| 21:12.49 | felix_bbn | 1.10 is older than 1.7 |
| 21:12.57 | menotume | ? |
| 21:13.02 | Aribeth | no it is not |
| 21:13.03 | felix_bbn | ok newer |
| 21:13.07 | orchid | yes |
| 21:13.07 | menotume | :) |
| 21:13.10 | felix_bbn | k |
| 21:13.20 | menotume | (hi orchid) |
| 21:13.27 | orchid | lo menotume |
| 21:13.33 | Aribeth | i dont think there is anyone running 1.7 |
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| 21:13.54 | felix_bbn | ok I have to wait for Pimpinellas CVS -Build |
| 21:14.04 | felix_bbn | thx for help anyway |
| 21:14.34 | menotume | np felix_bbn, did you just want to see docs ? |
| 21:14.48 | orchid | felix_bbn: yes, let him help you compile cvs and you will be fine, apt-get remove bzflag-server also |
| 21:14.57 | felix_bbn | i did ;) |
| 21:15.05 | orchid | :) |
| 21:15.26 | felix_bbn | i have already read a lot of manpages today... |
| 21:15.29 | menotume | what's the url @ bzflag.org for man pages ? |
| 21:15.46 | felix_bbn | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer |
| 21:15.48 | felix_bbn | ;) |
| 21:15.57 | orchid | meno he wants to run 2.0 server on woody |
| 21:15.58 | menotume | http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi |
| 21:16.05 | menotume | ahhh, nvm then |
| 21:16.09 | orchid | so he has to either build a deb, or compile |
| 21:16.18 | menotume | but at least you can start looking at bzfs docs |
| 21:18.18 | felix_bbn | i had this page already, but it was to much |
| 21:18.32 | felix_bbn | well i have a second debian server, for testing |
| 21:18.37 | felix_bbn | let me try there |
| 21:19.51 | felix_bbn | yes but /configure doesnt work, there are some packages needed to be update like glibc or some kernel-headers |
| 21:20.04 | felix_bbn | i dont like to get them from unstable source |
| 21:20.30 | felix_bbn | thats all in all much to comlicatet for me |
| 21:20.49 | orchid | Pimpinella was helping you earlier? |
| 21:21.01 | felix_bbn | yes |
| 21:21.13 | felix_bbn | some hours ago |
| 21:21.30 | felix_bbn | and its easier for me cause hes german speaking ;) |
| 21:21.35 | orchid | :) |
| 21:21.37 | felix_bbn | i just searching something to use all the free traffic i have |
| 21:21.41 | orchid | I think menotume is too |
| 21:22.20 | felix_bbn | is better for me to learn a little...and dont nerver the others with german that they dont understand |
| 21:23.44 | Pimpinella | felix_bbn: just sent your deb... |
| 21:23.55 | orchid | :) |
| 21:24.01 | felix_bbn | ohhhhhhhh ;) |
| 21:24.02 | orchid | Pimpinella: to the rescue |
| 21:24.19 | felix_bbn | ich habs trotzdem versucht, aber no chance |
| 21:24.46 | Pimpinella | schreib ich dir morgen mal was dazu... |
| 21:24.51 | felix_bbn | ok |
| 21:24.54 | felix_bbn | apt-get from unstable |
| 21:25.05 | felix_bbn | dann wollte er glibc und kernel-headers installiern |
| 21:25.12 | felix_bbn | hab mich da nicht weiter getraut |
| 21:25.31 | felix_bbn | kanns aber aufm testrechner ausprobiern, der steht da eh nur rum ausser für solche test |
| 21:25.36 | Pimpinella | ne, das laß mal lieber ;) |
| 21:26.09 | Pimpinella | das mit unstable meinte ich... |
| 21:26.27 | felix_bbn | klar war mich auch leicht unwohl, brauch den Server ja noch für anderes ;) |
| 21:28.44 | felix_bbn | did you send a email you say? |
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| 21:30.54 | Pimpinella | yep, via email |
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| 21:31.50 | Pimpinella | yep, via email |
| 21:31.59 | Pimpinella | felix_bbn: ^^^ |
| 21:32.10 | felix_bbn | hm... hab aber nix bekommen |
| 21:32.21 | felix_bbn | ich guck mal noch genau den Mailserver an was der macht |
| 21:34.51 | felix_bbn | ich send mit mal ein Mail mit 3 Mega, um zu sehn obs geblockt wird, könnte sein, |
| 21:35.36 | felix_bbn | is komisch, geht sonst immer, auch allerhand spam kommt an ;) |
| 21:36.06 | felix_bbn | das glaub ich jetzt aber nicht... |
| 21:40.55 | Pimpinella | felix_bbn: ich hab die email nochmal ohne anhang gesendet und lade das deb auf den webserver |
| 21:41.26 | felix_bbn | ok, sonst hätt ich dir nen Space gegeben ;) |
| 21:41.49 | Pimpinella | http://balin.pimpi.org/bzflag-server_2.0.1.20050305-1_i386.deb |
| 21:41.58 | felix_bbn | thx |
| 21:55.27 | Birdie | sportchick, nidhoggr or jeff: ping |
| 21:59.37 | jpa_ | eww, multicast icmp |
| 21:59.52 | uso | can i change the brightness (or saturation?) of the console and score fonts? |
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| 22:14.52 | SportChick | Birdie: pong |
| 22:15.57 | edini | ddos ;) |
| 22:17.44 | SportChick | DTRemenak: ping |
| 22:17.55 | Birdie | ~SportChick++ |
| 22:17.58 | SportChick | hehe |
| 22:18.02 | Birdie | ;) |
| 22:18.10 | SportChick | thanks birdie, but I don't deserve that - I didn't DO anything |
| 22:18.23 | tea|tree_ | ~ |
| 22:18.25 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 22:18.30 | Birdie | you tried:) |
| 22:18.32 | tea|tree_ | uhj |
| 22:18.35 | tea|tree_ | hola |
| 22:19.10 | Birdie | good evening |
| 22:19.23 | DTRemenak | SportChick, pong |
| 22:19.49 | SportChick | DTRemenak: birdie needs some help with his league group - I think you'll know the answer |
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| 22:21.35 | Birdie | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 22:22.02 | SportChick | Birdie: was dtr the right one to help you? |
| 22:22.31 | Birdie | yes, thx very much for your help |
| 22:22.36 | Birdie | same for dtr |
| 22:22.39 | SportChick | cool |
| 22:22.43 | SportChick | ~dtremenak++ |
| 22:22.55 | SportChick | ~karma dtremenak |
| 22:22.55 | ibot | dtremenak has karma of 82 |
| 22:22.59 | SportChick | cool |
| 22:23.01 | SportChick | good job, dtr |
| 22:23.06 | Birdie | ~karma sportchick |
| 22:23.06 | ibot | sportchick has karma of 76 |
| 22:23.09 | Birdie | almoust;) |
| 22:23.14 | Birdie | ~karma birdie |
| 22:23.14 | ibot | birdie has karma of 5 |
| 22:23.17 | Birdie | almoust to:) |
| 22:23.25 | SportChick | that's a great start, birdie! :) |
| 22:23.30 | SportChick | ~karma jpa- |
| 22:23.30 | ibot | jpa- has karma of -10 |
| 22:23.33 | DTRemenak | Birdie, should be done now |
| 22:23.34 | Birdie | lol |
| 22:23.39 | Birdie | thx dtr |
| 22:23.42 | DTRemenak | np |
| 22:23.48 | SportChick | that's an example of what you DON'T wanna do, birdie |
| 22:23.57 | SportChick | ~karma jpa_ |
| 22:23.57 | ibot | jpa_ has karma of 12 |
| 22:24.17 | DTRemenak | ~SportChick++ |
| 22:24.19 | Birdie | i'll try to be helpfull to get at least 100 |
| 22:24.53 | Birdie | the only problem is, i'm always the one that NEEDS help.. |
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| 22:48.31 | uso | wow, OO can shoot while protected in a building |
| 22:48.48 | uso | i'm afraid this also is not a new feature :) |
| 22:50.02 | Pimpinella | uso this is either a bug or a cheat |
| 22:51.59 | uso | a bug, as i use the original sources and have tested it with a local server |
| 22:55.44 | uso | seems to be related to the odd new coloring |
| 22:56.05 | uso | as it happens in such buildings |
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| 23:08.35 | felix_mmbg | re |
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