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| 00:14.55 | sgk284 | anyone around to ask questions about perms? |
| 00:15.07 | sussudio | like, a hairdresser? |
| 00:15.11 | sgk284 | lol |
| 00:15.14 | sgk284 | permissions :) |
| 00:15.23 | sussudio | =:-B |
| 00:16.07 | sgk284 | Tim said that the spawn perm should be given to everyone by default, is that specified in the code, or something that server admin must specifiy in the config? |
| 00:16.52 | sgk284 | heh :) |
| 00:18.25 | DTRemenak | sgk284, "by default" implies in the code |
| 00:19.00 | DTRemenak | there's a couple lists of default perms |
| 00:19.30 | sgk284 | k |
| 00:19.51 | DTRemenak | also give it to LOCAL.ADMIN by default, so admins can always spawn :) |
| 00:20.58 | blast007 | sgk284: if you're looking for where it does that, there's an initGroups() function in bzfs.cxx |
| 00:21.52 | sgk284 | blast007, thanks |
| 00:25.40 | sgk284 | whats hideAdmin do? |
| 00:26.27 | sgk284 | and DTRemenak it appears local.admin automagically gets every perm |
| 00:26.30 | sgk284 | :) |
| 00:26.34 | DTRemenak | sgk284, ah, cool |
| 00:26.40 | DTRemenak | hideAdmin removes the @ |
| 00:26.58 | sgk284 | ahh okay |
| 00:27.38 | sgk284 | a few admin on secretplace expressed interest in having an observer like mode without their names appearing on the list, sounds feasible right? |
| 00:28.06 | DTRemenak | I think there was some objection to that |
| 00:28.06 | DTRemenak | don't remember what |
| 00:28.06 | sgk284 | hrmm okay |
| 00:28.13 | sgk284 | i'll ask tim about it sometime |
| 00:28.29 | JeffM2501 | NINJA ADMIN! |
| 00:28.59 | trepan | time for the insulin shot |
| 00:29.05 | sgk284 | heh |
| 00:31.17 | blast007 | I had once made a server command that would make it appear to other players that you logged off, and newly joining players wouldn't be told you were there |
| 00:31.30 | blast007 | only showed up in a /playerlist |
| 00:32.00 | blast007 | but it was rather hackish |
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| 00:48.59 | sgk284 | maybe i'm overlookign something, but how do you set a rejoin time with the server? |
| 00:51.28 | trepan | _rejoinTime? |
| 00:51.50 | trepan | are you doing the REJOIN perm? |
| 00:52.06 | sgk284 | yea |
| 00:52.15 | sgk284 | i have the perm done... i cant test it though heh |
| 00:52.19 | sgk284 | spawn perm is done too |
| 00:52.23 | trepan | bzfs.cxx line 2266, just don't add 'em if they have the priv |
| 00:52.26 | trepan | simple |
| 00:52.53 | sgk284 | i just put in a !hasPerm at 2501 |
| 00:53.05 | sgk284 | i can switch it if you want |
| 00:53.17 | sgk284 | oh wait... |
| 00:53.22 | sgk284 | i mean 1828 |
| 00:54.33 | trepan | i'd switch it |
| 00:54.37 | sgk284 | k |
| 00:55.45 | sgk284 | switched |
| 00:56.06 | sgk284 | now how do i tell the server to not let me rejoin until a given amount of time has passed? |
| 00:57.07 | trepan | _rejoinTime |
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| 00:57.35 | sgk284 | i pass that to bzfs? |
| 00:57.55 | trepan | note the _, it's a bzdb var |
| 00:59.04 | DTRemenak | sgk284, if you're an admin I think it lets you rejoin immediately anyway |
| 00:59.21 | DTRemenak | or switching from observer to playing or playing to observer |
| 00:59.41 | trepan | DTRemenak: nope, that's the perm he's adding (for admins) |
| 00:59.44 | sgk284 | observer to player and vice versa it ignore, dont think it does for admin |
| 00:59.52 | DTRemenak | ah, ok |
| 00:59.56 | DTRemenak | man...I'm confused :) |
| 01:00.00 | sgk284 | heh |
| 01:00.17 | DTRemenak | ~sgk284++ |
| 01:00.23 | sussudio | ~confuse DTRemenak |
| 01:00.25 | ibot | no them is their pants today ? |
| 01:00.35 | sussudio | :-| |
| 01:00.36 | sgk284 | trepan, i got what you were saying, i just thought it was somethign that could be set passign something |
| 01:00.37 | DTRemenak | ibot, wtf? |
| 01:00.38 | ibot | from memory, wtf is the point of playing music when you can write it?, or what's that friend? |
| 01:00.44 | trepan | sgk284: why? |
| 01:00.48 | trepan | do you trust the clients? |
| 01:01.15 | sgk284 | good point |
| 01:01.28 | trepan | the worst is that it's done by name |
| 01:01.34 | trepan | s/worst/worst part |
| 01:01.46 | DTRemenak | probably should be done by IP |
| 01:01.54 | DTRemenak | that's at least some work to change :) |
| 01:01.55 | trepan | DTRemenak: heh, that's how it was started |
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| 01:02.06 | trepan | firewalled folks got pissy |
| 01:02.09 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 01:02.17 | sgk284 | DTRemenak,and more then one person can ahve the same ip |
| 01:02.23 | DTRemenak | well, tell them not to join within 5 secs of eachother :) |
| 01:02.23 | sgk284 | s/ahve/have |
| 01:02.27 | sgk284 | heh |
| 01:02.31 | trepan | should be done by unique player ids |
| 01:02.43 | trepan | which we don't have, and can't enforce |
| 01:02.44 | DTRemenak | trepan, there is no such thing |
| 01:02.49 | DTRemenak | exactly |
| 01:03.10 | DTRemenak | Please enter your Social Security Number and Date of Birth on this line: |
| 01:04.16 | trepan | 123456789, 19021111 |
| 01:05.01 | DTRemenak | that's why you ask for both...check against the Fed's database and see if they match :) |
| 01:06.33 | trepan | guess coppa letters wouldn't be much of an issue |
| 01:07.29 | DTRemenak | yup |
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| 01:46.00 | Birdie | !seen JeffM2501 |
| 01:46.00 | guu | Birdie: JeffM2501 was last seen here 1 hour, 17 minutes, and 30 seconds ago saying: <JeffM2501> NINJA ADMIN! |
| 01:46.05 | orange | Grumbler: dragon duck confusion... adventure clone? |
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| 02:54.38 | smallfoot- | i want invisible flag and quad damage |
| 02:54.47 | smallfoot- | and i want my tank to have a horn |
| 02:54.59 | amathis | I want a pony. |
| 02:55.05 | smallfoot- | a pony! haha |
| 02:55.05 | smallfoot- | what a fag |
| 02:55.34 | smallfoot- | plx i want a dashboard with blinking buttons and displays and LED's |
| 02:55.49 | Noodleman | how does his desire for a pony make him a homosexual? |
| 02:56.00 | smallfoot- | all homosexuals wants ponys |
| 02:56.06 | smallfoot- | and pink shirts |
| 02:56.09 | amathis | Noodleman: don't play with the kiddies' you might not come out alive. |
| 02:56.19 | smallfoot- | and thongs |
| 02:56.24 | Noodleman | i'm straight, and i wear pink |
| 02:56.27 | smallfoot- | wtf |
| 02:56.32 | smallfoot- | then you metrosexual |
| 02:56.35 | Noodleman | quit using generalisations, please |
| 02:56.36 | smallfoot- | a wannabe-homo |
| 02:56.41 | amathis | I'm straight, and I wear a tho..... nevermind |
| 02:56.42 | Noodleman | ooh, i am far from metrosexual |
| 02:57.20 | smallfoot- | "damn everyone else is homosexual and thats so cool, im not, but hey i can dress and act like one if i want!!" |
| 02:57.47 | Noodleman | smallfoot-: there you go making generalisations again |
| 02:57.56 | smallfoot- | lol |
| 02:58.01 | Noodleman | as if all homosexuals wear pink |
| 02:58.07 | Noodleman | they certainly do not |
| 02:58.10 | smallfoot- | true |
| 02:58.14 | Noodleman | more people are gay than you would guess |
| 02:58.19 | smallfoot- | but if somoene do wear pink, he is likely to be homosexual |
| 02:58.25 | Noodleman | not true |
| 02:58.28 | smallfoot- | yes |
| 02:58.29 | amathis | Noodleman: why are you even humoring the child? |
| 02:58.37 | Noodleman | amathis: because he is entertaining |
| 02:58.42 | Noodleman | i seek amusement |
| 02:58.46 | smallfoot- | fags love entertainment |
| 02:58.49 | smallfoot- | and strippers |
| 02:58.50 | Pizbit | Boring to me:) |
| 02:58.55 | smallfoot- | and lap dance |
| 02:59.05 | Noodleman | smallfoot-: everyone loves entertainment |
| 02:59.10 | smallfoot- | oh |
| 02:59.12 | smallfoot- | yeh |
| 02:59.20 | smallfoot- | and i like strippers and lap dance too |
| 02:59.34 | amathis | for some reason I don't think smallfoot- is old enough to know what to do with a stripper if he had one.. o.o |
| 02:59.41 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 02:59.49 | smallfoot- | you can do something with a stripper?? |
| 02:59.54 | smallfoot- | you supposed to watch them! |
| 02:59.56 | smallfoot- | not do anything |
| 03:00.00 | Noodleman | smallfoot-: not true |
| 03:00.02 | smallfoot- | oh |
| 03:00.05 | smallfoot- | damn, then explain to me |
| 03:00.07 | smallfoot- | i only look tv |
| 03:00.13 | smallfoot- | and girl always come and strips |
| 03:00.16 | amathis | dear lord, this is sad. |
| 03:00.16 | smallfoot- | and cockteaser girl |
| 03:00.18 | smallfoot- | but cant touch |
| 03:00.33 | smallfoot- | can only look, but cant touch |
| 03:01.16 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot watch the language please |
| 03:02.11 | JeffM2501 | you are far from it |
| 03:02.13 | smallfoot- | ok |
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| 03:02.22 | smallfoot- | what means curmudgeon |
| 03:02.33 | Noodleman | smallfoot-: do you know how to use a dictionary? |
| 03:02.36 | JeffM2501 | it means use a dictionary |
| 03:02.36 | amathis | .. See spot run... |
| 03:02.42 | smallfoot- | yes |
| 03:02.45 | smallfoot- | i have dictionary.com |
| 03:02.48 | smallfoot- | internet rules!!!!11 |
| 03:02.56 | JeffM2501 | yes it does |
| 03:03.00 | Noodleman | smallfoot-: if you have a dictionary, why did you ask me? |
| 03:03.03 | JeffM2501 | just tone it down |
| 03:03.04 | smallfoot- | lazy |
| 03:03.10 | smallfoot- | i have to open inretner explorer |
| 03:03.11 | JeffM2501 | that's your problem, not ours |
| 03:03.11 | Noodleman | true dat |
| 03:03.14 | smallfoot- | type dicitionaryc.com |
| 03:03.16 | smallfoot- | and type that word |
| 03:03.17 | smallfoot- | press enter |
| 03:03.18 | smallfoot- | and read |
| 03:03.22 | JeffM2501 | you'll live |
| 03:03.57 | smallfoot- | An ill-tempered person full of resentment and stubborn notions. |
| 03:04.04 | amathis | smallfoot-: yep, internet explorer is the only way to get on the internet. |
| 03:04.10 | smallfoot- | yes |
| 03:04.17 | Thumper_ | eesh |
| 03:04.26 | smallfoot- | internet explorer is the internet! |
| 03:04.33 | Noodleman | exactly |
| 03:04.41 | Noodleman | but, i'm just wondering |
| 03:04.41 | JeffM2501 | good lord amathis don't prod him on |
| 03:04.55 | Noodleman | if internet explorer IS the internet, what does internet explore? |
| 03:04.57 | amathis | smallfoot-: if you are going to go trolling, don't be so obvious, it gives you away. |
| 03:05.01 | Thumper_ | or add way more voltage to your cattle prod |
| 03:05.03 | smallfoot- | it surfs the internet |
| 03:05.09 | smallfoot- | aff |
| 03:05.14 | smallfoot- | troll rox |
| 03:05.17 | JeffM2501 | take it to #internetexporer if you must |
| 03:05.22 | Noodleman | it surfs itself? |
| 03:05.23 | smallfoot- | nobody there |
| 03:05.24 | JeffM2501 | trolls get kicked |
| 03:05.25 | smallfoot- | no |
| 03:05.28 | smallfoot- | i mean |
| 03:05.28 | smallfoot- | idk |
| 03:05.32 | smallfoot- | internet rox! |
| 03:05.37 | JeffM2501 | we get it |
| 03:05.48 | smallfoot- | if it werent for internet i wouldnt have a life |
| 03:05.56 | JeffM2501 | now are you here to just babble or do anything esle? |
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| 03:06.03 | smallfoot- | babble |
| 03:06.04 | smallfoot- | :D |
| 03:06.10 | smallfoot- | hey jeff, i remember you |
| 03:06.12 | smallfoot- | i talked to you |
| 03:06.14 | smallfoot- | when you banned me |
| 03:06.16 | JeffM2501 | then stop, or you will be removed |
| 03:06.17 | smallfoot- | but then i was nice |
| 03:06.18 | smallfoot- | ok |
| 03:06.19 | smallfoot- | sry men |
| 03:06.24 | smallfoot- | :D |
| 03:06.30 | sgk284 | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 03:06.35 | smallfoot- | jeffk, i remember before you are a nice guy |
| 03:06.38 | smallfoot- | i shouldnt annoy you |
| 03:07.13 | smallfoot- | now i will stop trolling in this channel and i will leave it, cuz i respect JeffM2501 |
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| 03:07.26 | Noodleman | feh, and ruin all my fun |
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| 03:07.34 | smallfoot- | but ill go troll in another channel! |
| 03:07.35 | *** part/#bzflag smallfoot- (gorilla@c-395b70d5.041-5-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 03:07.37 | Pizbit | hha |
| 03:07.39 | Pizbit | haha* |
| 03:07.42 | blast007 | :/ |
| 03:08.16 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, get any mails? |
| 03:09.05 | JeffM2501 | noodleman, that's what you have #noodlebot for :) |
| 03:09.15 | amathis | he is in there now |
| 03:09.41 | JeffM2501 | see now noodle can do what he wills |
| 03:09.47 | amathis | haha |
| 03:09.48 | amathis | :P |
| 03:14.14 | wegstar_ | uh.. who was smallfoot ? |
| 03:18.22 | Noodleman | wegstar: a troll |
| 03:20.25 | wegstar | ah :) |
| 03:20.38 | Aribeth | they seem to be everywhere |
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| 03:21.02 | Aribeth | hi shorty |
| 03:21.32 | wegstar | hmm... we would have to expect more stuff like this in the forums in the near future... |
| 03:22.03 | [shorty114] | hi Aribeth |
| 03:22.07 | Aribeth | had to ban one from my server a bit ago |
| 03:22.21 | sussudio | a cheater or a troll? |
| 03:22.41 | Aribeth | he was bashing the server and me |
| 03:22.56 | wegstar | eek.. |
| 03:23.14 | Aribeth | he complained about 100ms lag |
| 03:23.47 | Aribeth | i scanned the logs and found all kinds of nasty stuff |
| 03:23.57 | wegstar | scary... |
| 03:24.03 | Aribeth | yep |
| 03:24.39 | Pizbit | 100ms? I'd love that |
| 03:24.55 | Aribeth | nothin wrong with that |
| 03:25.34 | Aribeth | thats what i pay $110.00 a month for |
| 03:26.19 | wegstar | wow |
| 03:26.24 | Aribeth | i run my server on a 3.2 mb dedicated dsl line |
| 03:27.01 | JeffM2501 | 3.2 up? |
| 03:27.13 | Aribeth | down 600 kb up |
| 03:27.19 | JeffM2501 | 110? |
| 03:27.24 | Aribeth | yup |
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| 03:27.30 | JeffM2501 | that seems very hoigh |
| 03:27.32 | shorty114 | Noodleman!!!! |
| 03:27.34 | shorty114 | sup? |
| 03:27.39 | Aribeth | no phones. just a data line |
| 03:27.41 | Noodleman | not much |
| 03:27.49 | Noodleman | certainly not lokitorrent.com |
| 03:27.49 | JeffM2501 | I see 6 megs down 608 up for 59$ |
| 03:27.53 | shorty114 | heh |
| 03:27.54 | Noodleman | they were shut down >< |
| 03:27.56 | purple_cow | heh, we pay about $50 for 3/2 |
| 03:27.57 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 03:28.11 | JeffM2501 | I have 3 down 308 up for 34$ |
| 03:28.21 | shorty114 | grrr |
| 03:28.40 | shorty114 | stupid MPAA |
| 03:28.42 | Aribeth | i have to have a dedicated dsl line due to probs with the regular phone line |
| 03:28.47 | Noodleman | they have the right |
| 03:28.56 | Noodleman | it doesn't mean i won't be pissed tho :-P |
| 03:28.59 | JeffM2501 | that may be why it's so much |
| 03:29.07 | Aribeth | yup |
| 03:29.08 | shorty114 | haha |
| 03:29.13 | shorty114 | the page isn't valid HTML |
| 03:29.31 | Noodleman | feh |
| 03:29.34 | Noodleman | stupid MPAA |
| 03:29.44 | Aribeth | something is loading the phone line and noone can find it |
| 03:29.52 | JeffM2501 | odd |
| 03:30.12 | Aribeth | prob a short somewhere in the wireing |
| 03:30.36 | Thumper_ | Is there a way to have the server kick off players that pause for long periods of time? |
| 03:31.06 | Aribeth | what is your idle time set to? |
| 03:31.16 | Thumper_ | not currently set |
| 03:31.36 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.42 | Thumper_ | is a little extreme... |
| 03:31.43 | Aribeth | you can set it to kick players after a period of time |
| 03:31.58 | JeffM2501 | hence the term "idle" in it :) |
| 03:31.59 | Thumper_ | I thought the man page said that kicks idle players not paused players... |
| 03:32.15 | JeffM2501 | your idle when your paused right? |
| 03:32.40 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.40 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.40 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.40 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.40 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.53 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 03:32.54 | Thumper_ | is that description wrong then? |
| 03:32.55 | JeffM2501 | so I guess no |
| 03:33.22 | Aribeth | interesting |
| 03:38.12 | orchid | a paused player becomes idle on a flag capture I belive, but I think there should be a limit to pause length |
| 03:40.25 | trepan | k.i.s.s. |
| 03:40.59 | orchid | hmm, I disagree, many players type inbetween spawns, so as not to get killed while typing |
| 03:41.20 | trepan | orchid, how much do you need to type? |
| 03:41.29 | orchid | trepan: I'm quite chatty |
| 03:41.29 | trepan | maxidle is usually 5 mins or so, no? |
| 03:41.52 | trepan | i kick you for burning up a slot chatting for 5 mins+ |
| 03:41.56 | trepan | s/i/i'd |
| 03:42.06 | orchid | trepan not every where, chestal sets his quite low |
| 03:42.18 | trepan | Chestal: how low do you go? |
| 03:43.20 | Thumper_ | you can always connect as observer to chat... |
| 03:43.40 | orchid | then whay have chat in the game for on feild players? |
| 03:43.56 | Thumper_ | learn to type and drive... :) |
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| 03:45.52 | brlcad | iirc, it's like 2 minutes |
| 03:49.18 | wegstar | :w |
| 03:49.24 | wegstar | argh.. wrong window |
| 03:50.24 | brlcad | i think you're right about the flag capture .. the capture reset probably makes the idle kick loose track that he's paused server-side |
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| 04:17.53 | orchid | ~bzfquery 24.179.92.84:80 |
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| 04:24.33 | theEnemy | there's a player called "sil3nt" doing the rounds right now who's cheating |
| 04:24.38 | theEnemy | an nr cheat |
| 04:24.43 | theEnemy | first one i've seen in real life |
| 04:25.05 | sgk284 | theEnemy, another guy started comign around todaye making any flag act like wigns |
| 04:25.07 | sgk284 | wings* |
| 04:25.16 | theEnemy | his ip is in 129.31.73.0/24 |
| 04:25.29 | sgk284 | hrmm ours was 81. something |
| 04:25.33 | theEnemy | one slightly amusing one i saw at one point was on hepcat |
| 04:25.40 | sgk284 | anyone know of a cheat client release recently? |
| 04:25.50 | sgk284 | what was it? |
| 04:25.50 | MeBigFatGuy | whats the protocol breakage level of head? |
| 04:25.54 | theEnemy | where picking up a team flag made it geno :) |
| 04:26.14 | MeBigFatGuy | that sounds more like a bug :) |
| 04:26.15 | theEnemy | got banned pretty quick, but you've got to laugh at the novelty :) |
| 04:26.58 | sgk284 | heh |
| 04:27.17 | brlcad | heh, if that's theEnemy's first sighting of a cheater then we must be doing something better |
| 04:27.35 | sgk284 | true:) |
| 04:27.39 | theEnemy | ah no, first nr cheater that's all :) |
| 04:27.46 | brlcad | ahh |
| 04:27.51 | sgk284 | way to ruin the fun ;) |
| 04:28.22 | theEnemy | never quite understood the mentality... especially when it can get your whole netmask banned |
| 04:29.03 | sgk284 | secretplace has half of texas banned:) |
| 04:29.07 | Aribeth | they never learn |
| 04:29.37 | theEnemy | secretplace had me banned too at one point, from before i even started playing (must have been someone from my ISP) |
| 04:29.46 | theEnemy | in fact dragon.org still does :-| |
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| 04:30.29 | sgk284 | theEnemy, whats your ip? or host? |
| 04:30.49 | theEnemy | sgk284: 81.104.194.28 |
| 04:31.08 | theEnemy | although it's dynamic, so unblocking the whole /24 might be a little more likely to stick |
| 04:31.40 | sgk284 | if i were you and you wanted to play on those servers, i'd email bzflag@dragon.org and ask for antiban permissions |
| 04:32.06 | theEnemy | yeah, did that, which is how i got off secretplace's ban |
| 04:32.14 | sgk284 | i'm an admin on the server, assuming you didnt do anything wrong you'll probably get them:) |
| 04:33.27 | theEnemy | well, there don't seem to be any dragon.org servers running 2.0 yet, so it doesn't seem a priority |
| 04:33.59 | sgk284 | dragon.org as far as i know hasnt ran a server in quite some time |
| 04:34.07 | sgk284 | but one will be comign up shortly |
| 04:34.14 | sgk284 | according to recent discussions |
| 04:34.21 | sgk284 | an all wings map |
| 04:34.28 | sgk284 | should be fun |
| 04:34.46 | theEnemy | cool. i loved the corndawg basement map (rabbit hunt) that played there. |
| 04:34.54 | sussudio | yeah, but it'll still be no beatles. |
| 04:37.25 | theEnemy | if i'm lucky dragon.org will come back with the same banlist as secretplace, so i'll wait till it's up |
| 04:37.51 | MeBigFatGuy | i must say wings is rather irritating unless the map is primarily a wings map |
| 04:37.55 | MeBigFatGuy | especially with z bullets |
| 04:37.56 | sgk284 | when it comes back up, it will have the same banlist, you should be fine |
| 04:38.11 | MeBigFatGuy | but loads of fun with both, if they are plentiful |
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| 05:00.32 | lan56 | the apprentice, has started |
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| 05:07.39 | MeBigFatGuy | ? its over |
| 05:07.44 | MeBigFatGuy | :) |
| 05:07.56 | Legoguy | well the BZW vim highlighter is making progress :) |
| 05:09.38 | brlcad | and the emacs major mode? :) |
| 05:24.27 | CIA-1 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r6832 10bzedit/scripts/BZFlag/Zone.py: stub out the beginnings of a zone object |
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| 05:53.37 | sussudio | ~test |
| 05:53.40 | ibot | Passed |
| 05:53.51 | sussudio | Aribeth: everyone just went [nr] on your server |
| 05:57.34 | wegstar | heh |
| 05:57.46 | wegstar | ~fish |
| 05:57.47 | ibot | hmm... fish is FISHFISHFISH! DO THE FISH DANCE! "Give a man a fish and you'll feed him a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll feed himself for the rest of his life." This is so appropriate, instead of asking us to tell you exactly what to do, why not read some docs, then come back and ask specific questions which aren't covered?, or ... |
| 05:57.52 | wegstar | wrong window |
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| 07:42.57 | sussudio | JAFFA KREE |
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| 08:09.33 | LePoulpe | Hi all |
| 08:10.58 | LePoulpe | i'm trying to build my own bzflag map and i have little trouble |
| 08:11.06 | LePoulpe | anyone may help ? |
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| 11:07.18 | jpa_ | morning |
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| 11:19.00 | LePoulpe2 | Hi there |
| 11:19.07 | jpa_ | hello |
| 11:19.36 | LePoulpe2 | is there a *secret*tool that is used to build maps ? |
| 11:20.08 | trepan | yup, but we can't tell you about it |
| 11:20.16 | LePoulpe2 | lloggical |
| 11:20.26 | jpa_ | trepan: no, there is not |
| 11:20.35 | jpa_ | it is secret, we may not tell it exists |
| 11:20.44 | trepan | dang, now i'm out of the club |
| 11:21.01 | trepan | do i get my $15 membership fee back? |
| 11:21.03 | LePoulpe2 | i mean : if i want to torture somebody , i make him build pimpi map with bzedit |
| 11:21.07 | jpa_ | what would it be like if everyone used kate |
| 11:21.23 | jpa_ | trepan: we forgive you :) |
| 11:21.54 | jpa_ | trepan: but no, you must pay another $15 |
| 11:21.56 | trepan | LePoulpe2: are you talking about new 2.0 map features? |
| 11:22.06 | LePoulpe2 | trepan : yes but not ony |
| 11:22.23 | trepan | the 2.0 stuff is mostly being done by hand right now |
| 11:22.28 | jpa_ | LePoulpe2: use bzmap 2.0 that is not ready yet, bzmap-old that is not nice for new stuff or text editor |
| 11:22.28 | LePoulpe2 | woow |
| 11:22.38 | trepan | there are a few people who have learned to use 3D modellers |
| 11:22.39 | jpa_ | texteditor <3 |
| 11:23.02 | LePoulpe2 | jpa_ : i was afraid that most used tool was text editor |
| 11:23.12 | Pimpinella | LePoulpe2: : use bzflag to safe the map. Edit it with a texteditor |
| 11:23.30 | jpa_ | texteditor is best.. paper pen and texteditor |
| 11:23.31 | trepan | LePoulpe2: another trick is to use bzedit (or any other old style tool), and swap boxes and pyramids for 2.0 "group"s |
| 11:23.36 | Pimpinella | the map on 2.0 viper is well documented |
| 11:23.52 | jpa_ | Pimpinella: but..comments do not go to clients, do they? |
| 11:24.01 | Pimpinella | they do |
| 11:24.13 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 11:24.29 | Pimpinella | lemme proof, brb |
| 11:24.32 | jpa_ | so trepan's physics had _no_ comments at all? |
| 11:24.42 | trepan | comments do not get sent |
| 11:24.44 | jpa_ | i thought that they were just getting dropped |
| 11:25.02 | LePoulpe2 | I understand now why there are so few inclined plans in bzflag maps .... |
| 11:25.03 | trepan | some object names to get passed across, but #blahblah certainly does not |
| 11:25.20 | trepan | s/to/do |
| 11:25.39 | jpa_ | so bzflag adds some comments for meshes? |
| 11:25.44 | trepan | yes |
| 11:25.44 | LePoulpe2 | by the way this games rocks ; i think i'm addicted |
| 11:25.55 | trepan | like the counts for the various items |
| 11:25.56 | Pimpinella | no, they do not :( |
| 11:26.09 | LePoulpe2 | lepoulpe2 : last night i dreamt i burned my boss with a shockwave |
| 11:26.32 | trepan | go outside, and run around in circles |
| 11:27.00 | jpa_ | trepan: not perfects circles.. just circle with 16 divisions or so |
| 11:27.01 | Pimpinella | LePoulpe2: http://balin.pimpi.org/newviper.bzw |
| 11:27.23 | LePoulpe2 | thanks Pimpinella |
| 11:27.46 | jpa_ | opengl sucks.. why can't it have curvy faces |
| 11:27.58 | jpa_ | like faces with edges defined with bezier curve |
| 11:28.12 | LePoulpe2 | i plan to create a Delphi Site style map ; i think that ancient greeks have taken less time that i'll need to complete the project |
| 11:28.41 | jpa_ | LePoulpe2: i do not know what is delphi site, but python might help |
| 11:29.01 | jpa_ | if there is anything regular in map.. like stuff repeating etc. |
| 11:29.17 | jpa_ | if it is just pure modelling, 3d modeller could help |
| 11:29.21 | trepan | LePoulpe2: louman.homelinux.net has a nice map up with some meshed pillars |
| 11:29.31 | Pimpinella | Legoguy: no neccessarily, with the new group/define feature things like that became much easier |
| 11:29.54 | Pimpinella | not Legoguy , but LePoulpe2 of course |
| 11:30.00 | jpa_ | Pimpinella: true, but rotation movement etc is still difficult.. |
| 11:30.04 | LePoulpe2 | ok thnaks for help ; must go to lunch ; bb later |
| 11:30.15 | Pimpinella | guten hunger |
| 11:30.29 | trepan | jpa_: ya just gotta learn to visualize |
| 11:30.51 | jpa_ | trepan: i mean.. like the spirals map on secretplace.. |
| 11:31.00 | jpa_ | trepan: that kinda thing by hand |
| 11:31.22 | trepan | ah, so object count, not transformations are the problem |
| 11:31.30 | jpa_ | yup |
| 11:31.41 | jpa_ | copy-paste-edit-paste-edit-paste-edit |
| 11:31.46 | jpa_ | or few lines python :) |
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| 11:33.25 | jpa_ | hmm..have got first cheater-report |
| 11:33.49 | jpa_ | Player Ae0160x [7] has joined from 81.133.206.184 at 2005-02-10 19:20:07 |
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| 11:54.22 | Pimpinella | really your first? |
| 11:56.47 | Pimpinella | jpa_: yes, that was Aneox/Aenox, we banned to one several times yesterday for using different cheats |
| 11:58.11 | Pimpinella | can't be covered with a range ban, reminds me, that i planned to check if i can get him by hostban |
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| 12:19.10 | Blue_Eyes | hey all |
| 12:20.38 | menotume | HELLOS bLUE |
| 12:20.41 | menotume | OOPS |
| 12:20.45 | menotume | grr |
| 12:21.58 | Blue_Eyes | ciao meno :) |
| 12:26.11 | [dmp] | harddisks dont like me. |
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| 14:19.37 | bznoggin | orange: Hepcat is down? |
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| 14:25.51 | menotume | WOOHOO |
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| 14:43.34 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6s: Addition of a say command for sending out server messages and a rejoin permission to exempt users from the _rejoinTime limit. this comes from the viper-admin folks (manu, pimpi) |
| 14:43.55 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (Permissions.cxx Permissions.h bzfs.cxx commands.cxx): Addition of a say command for sending out server messages and a rejoin permission to exempt users from the _rejoinTime limit. this comes from the viper-admin folks (manu, pimpi) |
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| 14:45.37 | Ae` | wow, more chatters than players |
| 14:45.48 | jpa_ | ~bzflist |
| 14:46.04 | jpa_ | umm.. no :) |
| 14:47.11 | Ae` | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.14 | Ae` | BZFS1910? |
| 14:47.59 | trepan | BZFlag 2.0 and 1.10.x protocol numbers |
| 14:48.19 | trepan | 0026 -> 2.0, 1910 -> 1.10.x |
| 14:48.22 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: rejoin permission for avoiding _rejoinTime limit; a /say command for server messages. |
| 14:48.53 | Ae` | bznoggin |
| 14:48.53 | Ae` | hi |
| 14:49.48 | trepan | sgk284: get any conflicts? ;) |
| 14:50.26 | Ae` | ~bzfhelp |
| 14:50.29 | Ae` | ~help |
| 14:59.25 | cristi | ~bzfquery 82.137.26.35:5154 |
| 14:59.40 | cristi | :( |
| 15:00.09 | Ae` | ~bzfquery hepcat.tybox.net:5156 |
| 15:01.14 | Ae` | ~bzfquery 81.139.251.155:9124 |
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| 15:02.43 | stevek | good morning |
| 15:05.08 | Nidhoggr | hi stevek |
| 15:06.01 | stevek | how goes it? |
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| 15:12.41 | Grumbler | monrin Nidhoggr |
| 15:13.12 | cristi | Nidhoggr, you have not updated the map to bzflag 2.0 maps ? |
| 15:13.38 | Nidhoggr | hiya. |
| 15:14.04 | Nidhoggr | cristi: the map we have works fine. no reason to complicate it with fancy graphics. |
| 15:14.19 | cristi | hi tim |
| 15:14.25 | TimRiker | heya |
| 15:14.32 | Nidhoggr | besides, I'm not touching a map editor until it's usable by my simple self. |
| 15:14.48 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 15:14.53 | cristi | :) |
| 15:15.04 | Nidhoggr | if it's not broken, don't fix it. :) |
| 15:15.10 | Nidhoggr | people like the map the way it is. |
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| 15:15.16 | cristi | :) |
| 15:15.21 | cristi | hi blast |
| 15:15.23 | cristi | :) |
| 15:15.48 | blast007 | hi |
| 15:15.48 | stevek | cristi, what would you like changed? |
| 15:15.58 | stevek | the map is awesome:) |
| 15:16.08 | cristi | :) |
| 15:16.14 | cristi | to have colors |
| 15:16.18 | cristi | different colors |
| 15:16.48 | stevek | ? |
| 15:16.52 | cristi | i think if you put materials the map will look the best map of all maps of bzflag |
| 15:17.09 | stevek | but people would need to download those materials |
| 15:17.49 | Pimpinella | cristi: the map is mostly made of standard boxes, you can't apply materials to that |
| 15:17.50 | stevek | textures aren't sent with the map, not yet at least;) |
| 15:18.20 | Pimpinella | the map would need to be widely redone |
| 15:19.03 | jpa_ | stevek: there are default textures.. |
| 15:19.07 | Pimpinella | stevek: you can use the default textures |
| 15:19.14 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 15:19.14 | jpa_ | Pimpinella: just replace box with meshbox |
| 15:19.30 | cristi | i know |
| 15:19.38 | cristi | yep |
| 15:19.52 | cristi | with meshbox you can change the color of the box and works fine |
| 15:20.53 | Pimpinella | hm, meshboxes seem to consume performance |
| 15:20.53 | cods | jpa_: as trepan pointed out, meshbox is 12 faces, while box is only 6. |
| 15:21.13 | Pimpinella | i put them all out again |
| 15:21.22 | jpa_ | cods: i've noticed, those strange lines in boxes |
| 15:22.01 | Pimpinella | a meshbox is internally an arc with 4 divisions |
| 15:22.49 | jpa_ | is it? |
| 15:22.53 | cristi | yes |
| 15:22.55 | cristi | :) |
| 15:23.25 | jpa_ | how lame :) |
| 15:23.42 | cristi | hahahahahahahahhahhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 15:23.46 | cristi | haha |
| 15:23.50 | cristi | a box have 4 corners |
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| 15:24.03 | Pimpinella | http://balin.pimpi.org/p_c.bzw |
| 15:24.27 | Pimpinella | a box and a pyramid |
| 15:25.17 | cristi | k |
| 15:26.45 | cristi | but you do not do 'material options end' |
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| 15:27.07 | cristi | options is replaced with the material options |
| 15:27.26 | Pimpinella | ? |
| 15:27.37 | cristi | but you do not do 'material <options> end' |
| 15:27.57 | cristi | read the manual page of the BZW |
| 15:28.01 | Pimpinella | no, these are group definitions |
| 15:28.09 | cristi | :| |
| 15:28.21 | cristi | i do not work with group definitions |
| 15:28.22 | cristi | :( |
| 15:28.35 | cristi | I'm sorry |
| 15:28.55 | Pimpinella | add them and use them as boxes, just repoacing box with group boxreplac |
| 15:29.23 | cristi | i will send you the code again |
| 15:29.30 | Pimpinella | hell, groups is one of the mail features on the new bzw file format... |
| 15:29.41 | cristi | k |
| 15:29.44 | Pimpinella | not using them is ... well... |
| 15:29.45 | jpa_ | Pimpinella: and use scale and spin instead of size and rotation |
| 15:30.11 | Pimpinella | jpa_: iirc size and rotation will work too |
| 15:30.21 | jpa_ | Pimpinella: hmm..ok.. |
| 15:31.12 | jpa_ | Pimpinella: but.. top / bottom / outside params do not work with those, do they? |
| 15:31.26 | Pimpinella | no |
| 15:31.47 | Pimpinella | i added roof and wall as defaults in the faceed |
| 15:32.08 | jpa_ | pasting whole source in private or what? :D |
| 15:32.08 | Pimpinella | *faces |
| 15:32.22 | Pimpinella | yep... |
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| 15:34.11 | Pimpinella | group accepts obstacle, while obstacle accepts location and location contains size and rot |
| 15:34.23 | bz3885 | I've been kicked out of a gme because my "lag is too high." Could you please explain to me what this is? |
| 15:34.44 | jpa_ | bz3885: what kind of a connection do you have? |
| 15:34.56 | blast007 | bz3885: lag is the time it takes data to get from your computer to the server |
| 15:35.16 | bz3885 | High speed Internet via digital cable. |
| 15:35.24 | blast007 | the longer the delay, the more "jumpy" tanks seem |
| 15:35.47 | bz3885 | How does the server know how long it takes data from my computer to arrive? |
| 15:36.18 | jpa_ | bz3885: it sends your computer a ping packet like "hello, answer me" and your computer answers "hi i got your ping" |
| 15:36.25 | blast007 | it sends you a packet of data, and when your client gets it, it sends a response back...it tracks the time it takes to get a reply |
| 15:36.29 | jpa_ | and server takes time how long it takes to answer |
| 15:36.44 | bz3885 | Ohh, I see. So, there's nothing I can do about. Just try another server, correct? |
| 15:37.10 | jpa_ | yes |
| 15:37.12 | holiday | maybe u can stop other programs on your pc which make ur connetion slow by using it |
| 15:37.15 | blast007 | make sure there isn't any software running in the background that use the internet, like P2P apps, etc |
| 15:37.33 | Pimpinella | bz3885: just searching for something i once wrote... |
| 15:37.41 | blast007 | also spyware/adware/viruses can access the internet and cause lag ;) |
| 15:37.41 | bz3885 | OK, thanks for the advice. |
| 15:38.03 | Pimpinella | http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1106069&forum_id=9554 |
| 15:38.08 | bz3885 | Well, I'm running Linux. I don't care about viruses and spyware (yet) :) |
| 15:38.11 | jpa_ | if you are using linux, and have slow graphics card, you could use "nice bzflag" so it keeps more processor power for kernel functions, like network |
| 15:38.43 | jpa_ | i had that problem before when i was using software rendering, cpu getting used up and networking slowed down |
| 15:38.58 | bz3885 | I have an NVIDIA card with 3D acceleration. I don't think my PC is the problem. There's nothing else running on it. |
| 15:39.17 | holiday | do u hav a firewall? else it would show u which programs use the internet |
| 15:39.33 | Pimpinella | where do u live, and whats the server you get kicked from? |
| 15:40.04 | jpa_ | some servers are just behind lousy connections.. |
| 15:40.41 | bz3885 | I'm in northamerica but I can't tell where this server was (I forgot the name). Sorry, that was last night. |
| 15:41.16 | blast007 | while you are in the game, you can check lag by pressing 'n' to talk, and then typing /lagstats |
| 15:41.26 | jpa_ | or o and enter.. |
| 15:41.41 | blast007 | hehe, or that ;) |
| 15:42.04 | bz3885 | Anyway, thaks for explaining what this "lag" thing is. I'll use the /lagstats (or "o") next time. |
| 15:42.28 | Pimpinella | hm, there's also a key to view lag right above the mousebow,no? |
| 15:42.38 | Pimpinella | mousebox |
| 15:42.44 | blast007 | that's the framedraw time |
| 15:42.53 | Pimpinella | no, thats left |
| 15:43.25 | blast007 | there's Frames Per Second, and Seconds Per Frame (in ms) |
| 15:43.41 | Pimpinella | oh, ic |
| 15:43.57 | cristi | hmm |
| 15:44.04 | Pimpinella | how to toggle seconds per frame? |
| 15:44.15 | jpa_ | y |
| 15:44.29 | cristi | how to set 0 rogues, 4 red, 4, green, and 0 purple ? |
| 15:44.39 | blast007 | with -mp |
| 15:44.40 | jpa_ | cristi: aaargh, rtfm! |
| 15:44.44 | cristi | hmm |
| 15:44.48 | cristi | how with mp? |
| 15:44.55 | jpa_ | read the manual! |
| 15:44.55 | blast007 | with the man page |
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| 15:45.06 | Pimpinella | -mp 0,4,4,0,0,? |
| 15:45.07 | cristi | i am on windwos |
| 15:45.21 | jpa_ | you can read it from internet |
| 15:45.21 | blast007 | http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzfs.6s |
| 15:45.21 | Pimpinella | replace ? with number of obs |
| 15:45.22 | cristi | hmm |
| 15:45.27 | blast007 | or bzfs -help works too |
| 15:45.34 | jpa_ | or read the comments in config file |
| 15:45.57 | Pimpinella | or look in wiki |
| 15:46.12 | Pimpinella | or use the one i gave u ;) |
| 15:46.18 | jpa_ | but no, do not ask here |
| 15:46.33 | Pimpinella | well.. |
| 15:49.07 | menotume | orange: http://69.136.111.221/man90/?name=bzfs |
| 15:49.13 | menotume | ooops |
| 15:49.33 | menotume | not for oraane ... should have been 'or' |
| 15:49.44 | menotume | stupid fingers |
| 15:59.02 | menotume | Grumbler: YES! and if you have a shortcut to a url too |
| 15:59.29 | Grumbler | ~fishslap Bill Gates |
| 15:59.32 | ibot | ACTION slaps Bill Gates up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 15:59.58 | Pimpinella | ~fishslap Steve Ballmer |
| 16:00.00 | ibot | ACTION slaps Steve Ballmer up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 16:00.07 | menotume | Grumbler: try: control-N , then hit the back button in one of them |
| 16:01.00 | Ae` | or hold shift |
| 16:01.33 | Ae` | it is |
| 16:01.42 | Ae` | turn of reuse windows |
| 16:01.45 | Ae` | or something like that |
| 16:01.46 | menotume | yes - always use new browser window or something |
| 16:02.26 | menotume | ahhh - right. but I like reusing windows in the 'file browser' |
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| 16:04.33 | orange | I think if you use tabbrowser extensions in firefox you can tell it to do that no matter what other program requests it to be opened |
| 16:04.46 | orange | you can force it to open in a new tab when any external program requests a page to open |
| 16:04.59 | JBdiGriz | I have taken to having a spare tab open, but I should check for a preference like that. |
| 16:05.26 | orange | tabbrowser extensions are required though |
| 16:06.47 | Pimpinella | i'd like to give players the permission to grant specific groups |
| 16:07.22 | orange | google search bar integrated? |
| 16:07.41 | Grumbler | as of 1.0 |
| 16:07.50 | Grumbler | no install option to remove it |
| 16:07.54 | orange | hmmm, I'm in 1.0 |
| 16:08.00 | Grumbler | its there |
| 16:08.02 | orange | I didn't know it was here... where? :-) |
| 16:08.21 | Pimpinella | if i add a group local.grant.rejoin and ask for membership of that group, instead any hasPerm(), this should work, no? |
| 16:09.00 | Pimpinella | i could filter for local.grant, to go there |
| 16:10.24 | Pimpinella | it would bypass the original stuff though |
| 16:15.35 | trepan | texture downloads: they can be done within the current protocol |
| 16:15.47 | trepan | only one question, how to setup the protection? |
| 16:16.07 | trepan | default to only allowing downloads from textures.bzflag.org |
| 16:16.51 | trepan | but how to make it so that only the authorized folks on the local machine can change it? |
| 16:17.13 | trepan | on Windows, use Admin? or Unix, use root? doesn't really work |
| 16:17.15 | Ae` | grumbler |
| 16:17.20 | Ae` | you can hide the search |
| 16:17.26 | orange | Grumbler: are you talking about when you type in something in the location bar that isn't recognized as a url, it searches google automatically? |
| 16:17.43 | orange | Grumbler: or are you talking about the extra search box to the right of the location box? |
| 16:18.00 | Grumbler | the extra search box....its a google bar plugin |
| 16:18.17 | orange | but the extra search box lets you choose which engine you want, and lets you add any other engine |
| 16:18.18 | Ae` | it's not the same as the google bar |
| 16:18.43 | bryjen | trepan: just stick it in the bz config file. default to textures.bzflag.org. |
| 16:18.49 | Grumbler | if it looks like a bar, and acts like the bar, and stores tracking cookies like the bar....its the bar |
| 16:19.00 | orange | heh, OK |
| 16:19.04 | trepan | bryjen: some 12 yr old will figure out rather quickly how to mod that |
| 16:19.10 | trepan | bryjen: no problems with that fact? |
| 16:19.13 | orange | I don't get all the extra features of the bar |
| 16:19.33 | bryjen | yeah, well, then it's their fault if the get p0rnboxes |
| 16:20.18 | trepan | could put a file in .bzf that controls it |
| 16:20.27 | bryjen | hmm? |
| 16:20.33 | trepan | on unix, root could chattr it so that the kiddies couldn't mod it |
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| 16:21.15 | trepan | a file that specifies accepted sites, and excluded sites |
| 16:21.28 | trepan | it might work on windows as well |
| 16:21.32 | bryjen | i imagine lots of kiddies are on 'doze |
| 16:21.36 | trepan | dunno windows perm setup that well |
| 16:22.12 | Grumbler | orange, i dont like it.....it was an addition just for 1.0, and it ticks me off.....especially since the some ofthe developers left for google......it smells of conspiracy |
| 16:22.24 | bryjen | that won't stop kiddies that have root/admin access to their bow |
| 16:22.27 | bryjen | s/bow/box |
| 16:22.33 | trepan | bryjen: nothing will |
| 16:22.37 | bryjen | Exactly |
| 16:22.49 | trepan | so? |
| 16:23.15 | bryjen | i donno if its worth the effort |
| 16:23.16 | trepan | that's not my point, for parents you do control the kids comps, this would give them a means to block sites |
| 16:23.27 | trepan | isn't that much effort |
| 16:23.33 | trepan | if (fileExists()) useIt |
| 16:23.46 | Ae` | Grumbler |
| 16:23.54 | Ae` | it doesn't have the tracking cookie or anything |
| 16:24.04 | bryjen | Ok. you're right, of course. (especially if you'll be coding it and not me ;) ) |
| 16:24.54 | bryjen | Doesn't XP Home pretty much make everybody Admin tho? |
| 16:25.35 | bryjen | the backend is probly all still there, but it's over-simplified up front |
| 16:25.44 | bryjen | for the "Home" users |
| 16:26.15 | trepan | either way, having a simple control file is probably a decent way to go |
| 16:27.12 | trepan | ALLOW and DENY keys with regex or globbed names |
| 16:27.13 | Grumbler | Ae`, i am grumbler, here me grumble. in the course of life, it is nothing, it is however something i will not use for the reasons, verified with spyware blockers, i have listed above. it was an unnecessary addition to a nice fast tool. |
| 16:27.37 | bryjen | ALLOW *.bzflag.org \n DENY * |
| 16:27.38 | Ae` | you're wrong then, idiot |
| 16:27.58 | Grumbler | same to you |
| 16:28.05 | Ae` | :) |
| 16:28.28 | orange | hmm, that turned ugly fast :-) |
| 16:28.41 | Ae` | what, grumblers face? |
| 16:28.45 | Ae` | that was always ugly |
| 16:28.48 | Pimpinella | if group is a std::string = "EXAMPLE", can i contaten like this "LOCAL.GRANT." + group to "LOACL.GRANT.EXAMPLE" ? |
| 16:29.11 | trepan | Pimpinella: yup '+' works |
| 16:29.17 | orange | methinks you might be taking your software a bit too seriously, unless you and grumbler are longtime friends and always talk to each other this way |
| 16:33.33 | bryjen | hmm, how but a *nix permission question then, trepan? even if the file is immutable, if I own the dir, can't I rm (unlink) it from the dir? |
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| 16:34.08 | teatree | hola |
| 16:34.22 | trepan | bryjen: nope |
| 16:34.27 | teatree | With which program can i remove the red eyes in pictures ?! |
| 16:35.13 | jpa_ | gimp |
| 16:35.13 | jpa_ | etc |
| 16:35.36 | teatree | havent got that :/ |
| 16:35.37 | jpa_ | just copy blue channel as red channel in the eye-part |
| 16:35.40 | teatree | im on win ... |
| 16:35.41 | teatree | ;) |
| 16:35.42 | trepan | bryjen: i'm wondering in windows supports the same kind of functionality |
| 16:35.45 | trepan | s/in/if |
| 16:36.20 | trepan | bryjen: hehe, there's always -conf though :) |
| 16:36.38 | bryjen | huh -conf ? |
| 16:37.03 | trepan | [-config <configfile>] |
| 16:37.18 | bryjen | yes.... |
| 16:37.19 | trepan | but i guess that's somewhat separated from the conf dir |
| 16:37.31 | trepan | so it's still ok |
| 16:37.57 | Ae` | teatree open "paint" |
| 16:38.11 | bryjen | how would you force -conf tho |
| 16:38.20 | Ae` | then select "brush" |
| 16:38.31 | trepan | sry, i was talking about -config on the client side |
| 16:38.42 | trepan | not bzfs' -conf |
| 16:38.50 | bryjen | yes.... same question |
| 16:38.59 | trepan | which is? |
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| 16:39.36 | trepan | -config is just for the config file, not the config dir (if that's what you are asking) |
| 16:39.43 | bryjen | i'm not following how you'd use -config to force a list of allow texture download sites |
| 16:40.36 | trepan | i mistakenly thought that one might be able to use -config to bypass the SitesList type protection |
| 16:40.48 | trepan | then i proved myself wrong... |
| 16:40.51 | bryjen | Ah |
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| 16:42.03 | trepan | planning a generic web cache mgr, could be used for URL'ed maps too |
| 16:42.13 | trepan | it'll be synchronous at first, so you'll have to wait |
| 16:42.47 | trepan | but it would be nice to make ESC stop transfers (which i don't think it currently does form http maps) |
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| 16:45.02 | jpa_ | hellp sc |
| 16:45.05 | Nidhoggr | hi SportChick |
| 16:45.07 | jpa_ | *hello |
| 16:45.10 | SportChick | hi Nid |
| 16:45.17 | SportChick | hi jpa |
| 16:45.19 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:45.30 | Nidhoggr | cool :) |
| 16:45.35 | Nidhoggr | is it raining there, too? |
| 16:45.57 | SportChick | in RB? yeah |
| 16:45.58 | Nidhoggr | phoenix is getting drenched pretty well. |
| 16:46.01 | SportChick | not sure about palm springs |
| 16:46.14 | Nidhoggr | I just am not real fond of driving in it. |
| 16:46.25 | jpa_ | i understand palm.. and i know spring.. but what is palm springs? |
| 16:46.43 | teatree | jpa_ im just burning knoppix live cd ;) hope gimp is on there ;) ill give it a try |
| 16:46.50 | Birdie | how can you love to become wet in the rain? |
| 16:46.52 | teatree | Ae` thx ill give it a try ;) |
| 16:47.00 | jpa_ | teatree: : |
| 16:47.01 | jpa_ | P |
| 16:48.35 | Nidhoggr | Birdie: sometimes a warm rain is very refreshing in the middle of a desert. |
| 16:49.21 | Ae` | more like cold rain |
| 16:51.13 | bryjen | jpa_: Palm Springs is a city |
| 16:52.09 | Birdie | lol nidhoggr |
| 16:52.36 | jpa_ | bryjen: ok |
| 16:53.21 | bryjen | palm as in palm tree, spring as in a place where water comes up from the ground |
| 16:53.59 | jpa_ | hmm..ae was the recent cheater on bzflag 2.0.. |
| 16:54.01 | bryjen | hmm, its actually 3 cities according to yahoo. one each in AZ CA FL |
| 16:56.38 | bryjen | the Ae` here is a .nl Wasn't ae* the cheater .uk ? |
| 16:56.49 | jpa_ | hmm.. |
| 16:57.59 | jpa_ | host81-133-206-184.in-addr.btopenworld.com according to my logs.. |
| 16:58.29 | bryjen | well, .com. but btopenworld is British Telecom's ISP |
| 16:58.42 | jpa_ | yup |
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| 17:00.41 | Grumbler | its just not my day......three weeks and the cad software dudes get back to me and tell me that there is an undocumented sub-menu that i need to fill out to get bythe problem |
| 17:02.58 | Grumbler | ...oh wait, i take that back, its documented in an application note, not in the manual..... |
| 17:06.39 | Noodle-sensei | Birdie: i love riding my bike through a warm rain |
| 17:06.58 | Noodle-sensei | there's nothing quite like it :-) |
| 17:07.20 | Noodle-sensei | except standing underneath a waterfall :-) |
| 17:12.17 | brlcad | Pimpinella: you're right, I don't like it :) |
| 17:15.34 | Birdie | well in with bike in a rain...and my pants are so wet, and it cant dry because its raining..thats isnt that funny:) |
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| 17:40.01 | brlcad | Chestal / Pimpinella: would calling someone a bloed be considered vulgar or very insulting? |
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| 17:41.58 | *** topic/#bzflag by Ae` -> |
| 17:42.09 | *** topic/#bzflag by Ae` -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || Shellshock is revived http://shellshock.bzflag.bz || Thank you, RPG! - http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=26845#26845 || BZFlag 2.0.0 is Released! - Go to http://sf.net/projects/bzflag http://bzflag.org/wiki/Download | |
| 17:42.28 | Ae` | oops |
| 17:42.58 | _Manu_ | brlcad: Hi! |
| 17:43.11 | Ae` | does anyone else actually cheat at bz? |
| 17:43.27 | Ae` | I've been cheating for 3-4 days and not seen anyone else |
| 17:43.53 | Ae` | or are they all subtle |
| 17:44.27 | _Manu_ | well most of players only playing.. |
| 17:45.08 | Birdie | cheating is pathetic |
| 17:47.05 | Nidhoggr | Ae`: most/all servers will ban you for cheating. |
| 17:47.31 | Nidhoggr | I'd have no problem banning an entire ISP for a single cheater. |
| 17:48.10 | Nidhoggr | and have done so recently. |
| 17:48.40 | teatree | brb ;) |
| 17:49.04 | Birdie | Ae: whats fun on cheating? |
| 17:49.52 | _Manu_ | as he can't play good enought.. he simply using cheats |
| 17:49.56 | blast007 | Birdie: I suppose pissing off all the players might be fun for some people... |
| 17:51.13 | Pimpinella | brlcad: yep, bloed meand stupid |
| 17:51.13 | Pimpinella | wouldn't like to be called bloed |
| 17:51.44 | brlcad | hola Manu |
| 17:52.02 | brlcad | Pimpinella: but specifically .. is it vulgar? |
| 17:52.11 | brlcad | rude is fine, vulgar is not |
| 17:52.19 | Pimpinella | though it wouldn't be written with oe, but with that german character with 2 dots above the o |
| 17:52.28 | Pimpinella | rude, not vulgar |
| 17:52.30 | _Manu_ | brlcad: hola |
| 17:52.33 | brlcad | k, thx |
| 17:53.04 | Pimpinella | brlcad: any other idea how to do what my patch does? |
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| 17:57.18 | cristi | "-mp 18,0,4,4,0,0,10" |
| 17:57.27 | cristi | why it doesn't work ??? |
| 17:57.40 | Pimpinella | Ae`: if you're aenox, you should be aware, that nobody here likes cheaters. You make us ban whole ranges to get rid of you, so it's not only you who gets banned, but other players suffer from your mislead behavior too. |
| 17:58.43 | cristi | :) |
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| 18:04.09 | Nidhoggr | I like that there are no true latin swear words. all the stuff used as insults are part of the common language. (or were) :) |
| 18:12.16 | ToughShooter | brlcad: I will remove bloed and blod from my patch. I also have figured out some repetitions (in my added stuff and the old stuff) |
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| 18:20.50 | ToughShooter | Nidhoggr: I dislike that some words like rules get filtered because of other languages |
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| 18:21.16 | Nidhoggr | ToughShooter: unfortunately, the filter isn't perfect, but it serves a purpose. |
| 18:21.29 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 18:22.50 | Grumbler | if there were a larger variety of international sites, it could suffice to have language filter plugins.....but with everybody playing one or two servers, a unified filter is just practical. |
| 18:23.10 | ToughShooter | There is a need for a steering sign that makes sure that rul gets filtered, but not rule |
| 18:23.24 | Nidhoggr | I remove words that cause too many problems. |
| 18:23.49 | Nidhoggr | like "I'd like" used to be filtered all the time. |
| 18:24.06 | ToughShooter | I see. It makes me swearing on my own test server |
| 18:24.27 | Nidhoggr | you can remove words from the filter if you wish. it's a simple text file. |
| 18:25.09 | brlcad | ToughShooter: remove all the foreign words on your own server if you like |
| 18:25.29 | brlcad | that will make the false positives go _way_ down |
| 18:25.36 | ToughShooter | Nidhoggr: That's not the problem. The problem is that "bad" words are sometimes part of "good" words |
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| 18:25.59 | brlcad | ToughShooter: example? |
| 18:26.11 | ToughShooter | rul, rule |
| 18:26.28 | brlcad | rule alone shoule not match |
| 18:26.35 | brlcad | just as shittake musrooms won't match |
| 18:26.58 | brlcad | if it does and it's not in the filter list, it's probably a bug |
| 18:27.03 | ToughShooter | it matches, because it's only one more sign than "rul" from es |
| 18:27.37 | ToughShooter | 3 more chars and it doesn't match |
| 18:27.57 | brlcad | that's a bug |
| 18:28.03 | brlcad | and the match is on rules, not rule |
| 18:29.57 | ToughShooter | rule gets to "%$!e" and rules to "&%!%!" |
| 18:30.23 | brlcad | ToughShooter: yes .. AND IT'S A BUG |
| 18:30.27 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/misc/multilingualSwearList.txt: no more rules |
| 18:30.38 | brlcad | sheesh, how many times must I say it :P |
| 18:30.47 | Grumbler | heh, that should make Ae` happy |
| 18:31.18 | ToughShooter | I only wanted that we're not misunderstanding. |
| 18:31.39 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, is it a bug? |
| 18:31.41 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 18:32.30 | brlcad | the fact that it does "rule" to !@#e is definitely a bug, the english suffixes to foreign words is just wrong |
| 18:35.03 | gina | ~karma CIA-1 |
| 18:35.03 | ibot | cia-1 has karma of 1 |
| 18:35.27 | Birdie | hi gina |
| 18:35.35 | gina | dada birdie |
| 18:35.43 | gina | wuif wuif |
| 18:35.53 | Birdie | i'm propably the only one that understands that;) |
| 18:36.04 | *** join/#bzflag Privia (~Privia@h000d93444438.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 18:36.09 | gina | yeah, I didn't even understand it myself :p |
| 18:36.15 | Birdie | lol |
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| 18:36.50 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o purple_cow] by ChanServ |
| 18:37.18 | Birdie | wuif = a nice word though;) |
| 18:38.34 | Noodle-sensei | how did anyone ever mistake windows for being user friendly? |
| 18:40.23 | brlcad | heh |
| 18:40.56 | brlcad | gina: actually that's a great idea.. |
| 18:41.02 | brlcad | can you update your language section? |
| 18:41.17 | gina | :) |
| 18:41.18 | gina | 4 |
| 18:41.28 | brlcad | the multilingual swear list |
| 18:42.01 | brlcad | http://bzflag.bz/cvs/misc/multilingualSwearList.txt |
| 18:42.31 | brlcad | there's sections in there for various languages .. can you update it for the languages you speak? |
| 18:42.39 | Grumbler | ~Noodle-sensei++ |
| 18:43.11 | Noodle-sensei | w00t |
| 18:44.16 | crko | brlcad, how can i update it? |
| 18:44.19 | Tupone | ~gina++ |
| 18:44.24 | brlcad | crko: of course |
| 18:44.41 | crko | how? ^^ |
| 18:44.42 | brlcad | oh, how? uhm.. a text editor? |
| 18:44.43 | crko | cvs? |
| 18:45.08 | gina | brlcad: ok |
| 18:45.10 | brlcad | if you know how to use cvs, I'd prefer a unified diff |
| 18:47.56 | ToughShooter | ~karma ToughShooter |
| 18:47.56 | ibot | toughshooter has neutral karma |
| 18:48.46 | brlcad | if not, edit that text file and e-mail me the file or post it up |
| 18:52.04 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, any mails? |
| 18:54.39 | Noodle-sensei | you worthless petaQ |
| 18:55.02 | Nidhoggr | do we need a klingon section in the filter? ;) |
| 18:55.12 | Noodle-sensei | no! |
| 18:55.41 | *** kick/#bzflag [Noodle-sensei!~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc] by JeffM2501 (#bzflag language!) |
| 18:55.59 | *** join/#bzflag Noodle-sensei (~tuckerm@bc186118.bendcable.com) |
| 18:56.04 | Noodle-sensei | baQa |
| 18:56.23 | *** kick/#bzflag [Noodle-sensei!~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc] by JeffM2501 (language! strike 2) |
| 18:56.28 | *** join/#bzflag Noodle-sensei (~tuckerm@bc186118.bendcable.com) |
| 18:56.34 | Noodle-sensei | geez :-P |
| 18:56.39 | Noodle-sensei | tough crowd] |
| 18:56.42 | JeffM2501 | you insult my honor |
| 18:56.45 | JeffM2501 | prepare to die |
| 18:56.50 | brlcad | fight to the death! |
| 18:56.57 | JeffM2501 | wonder who'll win :) |
| 18:57.09 | Noodle-sensei | ook |
| 18:57.14 | Nidhoggr | hahahahaha |
| 18:57.18 | Nidhoggr | you guys crack me up. |
| 18:58.41 | Noodle-sensei | guns are without honor |
| 18:59.11 | JeffM2501 | each bullet has the entire text of the art of war insribed on them |
| 18:59.17 | JeffM2501 | they have more honor then your toe |
| 18:59.29 | JeffM2501 | cus I've seen where you put your toe |
| 19:00.04 | Noodle-sensei | yeah, i'm always kicking gul dukat's butt |
| 19:00.22 | JeffM2501 | and he's got one nastty butt |
| 19:00.24 | Noodle-sensei | my toe *is* without honor |
| 19:00.59 | Noodle-sensei | please, cut it off |
| 19:02.14 | Noodle-sensei | JeffM2501: thank you |
| 19:02.19 | Noodle-sensei | you have restored my honor |
| 19:02.21 | Grumbler | "for the honor" -- fifth element? |
| 19:02.22 | JeffM2501 | my pleasure |
| 19:02.38 | JeffM2501 | "and they smell nasty!!" |
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| 19:11.59 | *** join/#bzflag bz2175 (~a5921be8@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 19:13.29 | Noodle-sensei | i love sharpies |
| 19:13.45 | Noodle-sensei | i don't just love sharpies |
| 19:13.55 | Noodle-sensei | i *really* love sharpies |
| 19:14.01 | crko | lol |
| 19:14.05 | Noodle-sensei | as in, i love them more than is healthy |
| 19:14.27 | Ae` | thanks for telling us |
| 19:14.27 | Ae` | but I doubt anyone cares |
| 19:14.39 | Ae` | if you want to get arrested go to your local station |
| 19:14.58 | Noodle-sensei | i love them so much that the folks who purchase supplies for the office bought a box of sharpies just for me |
| 19:15.50 | Nidhoggr | sharpies are lots of fun |
| 19:15.52 | Ae` | your bendcable host suits you |
| 19:15.55 | Nidhoggr | I have the big colorful set. |
| 19:16.13 | Noodle-sensei | i like blue extra fine point sharpies |
| 19:16.23 | Nidhoggr | why blue? |
| 19:16.25 | jpa_ | brlcad: multilangual swearlist for finnish.. http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/other/multilingualSwearList-fi.diff |
| 19:16.26 | Noodle-sensei | Ae`: what makes you say that? |
| 19:16.42 | Noodle-sensei | Nidhoggr: because blue extra fine point sharpies rock |
| 19:16.52 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 19:17.16 | *** join/#bzflag Timpson (~Dave@cdm-66-76-63-29.nacd.cox-internet.com) |
| 19:17.27 | Nidhoggr | hi tex! |
| 19:17.28 | Noodle-sensei | Timpson: do you love sharpies? |
| 19:17.30 | Ae` | _Manu_ |
| 19:17.39 | Timpson | hello Nid |
| 19:17.40 | Nidhoggr | Timpson is da man. |
| 19:17.41 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 19:17.47 | Timpson | thx |
| 19:17.49 | Nidhoggr | how goes t-shirt design? |
| 19:17.57 | Nidhoggr | did you ever uppercase the BZF? |
| 19:18.01 | Timpson | should print monday or tuesday |
| 19:18.05 | Timpson | yes |
| 19:18.08 | Ae` | mine vittu |
| 19:18.10 | ToughShooter | t-shirts? |
| 19:18.10 | Nidhoggr | URL? |
| 19:18.12 | Timpson | it should still be up |
| 19:18.14 | Noodle-sensei | w00t, t-shirts |
| 19:18.16 | Timpson | one sec |
| 19:18.24 | Noodle-sensei | ok, he doesn't have to love sharpies |
| 19:18.26 | Nidhoggr | timpson's shirt is the coolest yet. |
| 19:18.30 | bz2175 | ~bzfquery stoke.gotdns.com:5154 |
| 19:18.39 | Noodle-sensei | if he designs t-shirts, he's OK |
| 19:18.49 | Noodle-sensei | i wanna see the design! |
| 19:19.03 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 19:19.35 | Noodle-sensei | even tho i hardly ever wear t-shirts... |
| 19:19.46 | Timpson | http://www.thinkinsane.com/bzflagshirt.html |
| 19:19.52 | Noodle-sensei | w00t |
| 19:20.11 | Noodle-sensei | NICE |
| 19:20.19 | Timpson | thx |
| 19:20.23 | ToughShooter | is really nice |
| 19:20.27 | Timpson | still setting up the back |
| 19:20.38 | Timpson | back will just be text but small |
| 19:20.49 | gina | curses in latin?! |
| 19:20.55 | ToughShooter | I want to purchase one |
| 19:21.15 | Noodle-sensei | gina: unfortunately, i didn't take latin long enough to learn any of those |
| 19:21.32 | Timpson | they will up fer sale by the end of february |
| 19:21.51 | ToughShooter | Outside of America, too? |
| 19:21.52 | Timpson | having to figure out the shipping stuff and other things |
| 19:21.55 | Timpson | yes |
| 19:22.00 | ToughShooter | :-) |
| 19:22.07 | Noodle-sensei | i should make a t-shirt about sharpies |
| 19:22.19 | Ae` | or |
| 19:22.22 | Ae` | hang yourself |
| 19:22.24 | Noodle-sensei | because sharpies rock |
| 19:23.19 | ToughShooter | ~x en de sharpies |
| 19:23.21 | *** part/#bzflag Timpson (~Dave@cdm-66-76-63-29.nacd.cox-internet.com) |
| 19:23.21 | gina | I never heard of a "opdekontneuker" |
| 19:23.32 | ToughShooter | ~dict sharpies |
| 19:23.38 | *** join/#bzflag Timpson (~Dave@cdm-66-76-63-29.nacd.cox-internet.com) |
| 19:23.39 | Noodle-sensei | ~google sharpie |
| 19:24.08 | cods | ~dict sharpie |
| 19:24.10 | Timpson | does that ibot do that automatically |
| 19:24.12 | Timpson | ? |
| 19:24.23 | Noodle-sensei | cods: hmm, none of those |
| 19:24.24 | gina | ~dict opdekontneuker |
| 19:24.45 | Timpson | ~dict crazy |
| 19:24.46 | Birdie | LOL gina |
| 19:24.56 | Timpson | nice |
| 19:25.04 | Noodle-sensei | i need to learn how to use illustrator... |
| 19:25.16 | Ae` | ~dict no! |
| 19:25.21 | Timpson | I've been using it since version 3 |
| 19:25.28 | Timpson | 3.3 |
| 19:25.49 | Noodle-sensei | doing vector art in photoshop works, but it just isn't as nice as the real thing |
| 19:26.12 | *** join/#bzflag Ae` (~gqwfdhur@c-67-163-160-42.client.comcast.net) |
| 19:26.22 | Noodle-sensei | Ae`: do you love sharpies yet? |
| 19:26.30 | bz2175 | ~bzfquery stoke.gotdns.com:5154 |
| 19:26.34 | Ae` | ~dict no! |
| 19:26.40 | Noodle-sensei | Ae`: why not? |
| 19:26.41 | Timpson | print vector from photoshop is still not as clean as it is from Illustrator |
| 19:27.05 | Timpson | something about the way it gets ripped |
| 19:27.45 | Timpson | I think once it gets rastered, it ditches the vector info |
| 19:27.54 | Ae` | idd |
| 19:27.55 | ToughShooter | Noodle-sensei: So sharpie is something like edding, isn't it? |
| 19:28.02 | Timpson | show slight pixelation |
| 19:28.13 | Noodle-sensei | ToughShooter: a sharpie is a type of marker :-) |
| 19:28.35 | Timpson | it's a marker if you write with it |
| 19:29.08 | ToughShooter | So it's like our popular edding's |
| 19:29.08 | Timpson | ~dict looney |
| 19:29.20 | Grumbler | ~google edding |
| 19:29.20 | Nidhoggr | www.sharpie.com :) |
| 19:29.24 | Timpson | o_o |
| 19:29.28 | Noodle-sensei | ToughShooter: possibly, although i'm not familiar with it |
| 19:29.58 | Noodle-sensei | i'm not looney, just excessively eccentric |
| 19:30.01 | ToughShooter | Noodle-sensei: http://www.edding.de/ |
| 19:30.05 | Timpson | ~google boots of escaping |
| 19:30.15 | Timpson | whoops |
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| 19:33.28 | Noodle-sensei | BlackWing: do you love sharpies? |
| 19:34.00 | *** part/#bzflag Ae` (~gqwfdhur@c-67-163-160-42.client.comcast.net) |
| 19:34.00 | *** join/#bzflag Ae` (~gqwfdhur@c-67-163-160-42.client.comcast.net) |
| 19:34.07 | Ae` | wow he types it |
| 19:35.52 | Ae` | lag? |
| 19:36.31 | Grumbler | ibot can be a little slow at times |
| 19:37.44 | bryjen | dictionary lookup goes out across the net. often stalls |
| 19:38.16 | *** join/#bzflag Bagheera (~Grumbler@grumbler.bronze.supporter.pdpc) |
| 19:38.35 | Ae` | how much do you pay for bronze? |
| 19:39.55 | bryjen | http://freenode.net/pdpc.shtml |
| 19:40.36 | Ae` | woah |
| 19:40.49 | Ae` | might as well get silver if you're going to blow 128 |
| 19:42.26 | Noodle-sensei | i wonder how much dough freenode gets from digium |
| 19:43.49 | Ae` | why is digium a baker? |
| 19:44.18 | *** part/#bzflag ToughShooter (~ts@pD9EA735A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:45.09 | Noodle-sensei | Ae`: yup |
| 19:45.29 | Noodle-sensei | oh rather, i don't know why digium is a baker |
| 19:46.57 | Ae` | + , |
| 19:54.40 | crko | hmm why don't the meshes exported from a .obj to .bzw show up on the radar (in the air)? |
| 19:55.41 | cods | probably too high |
| 19:55.51 | cods | try to change radar settings |
| 19:57.34 | crko | aaaaa |
| 19:58.29 | crko | i have the radar set right |
| 19:58.40 | crko | and it's so high you could jump up to it :P |
| 19:58.53 | crko | but not visible on the radar :/ |
| 20:01.02 | *** join/#bzflag Bagheera (~Grumbler@grumbler.bronze.supporter.pdpc) |
| 20:12.41 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/clientCommands.cxx: Roaming switching from player to player exclude only Observer |
| 20:16.27 | Ae` | hahaha |
| 20:16.32 | Ae` | _Manu_ |
| 20:16.37 | *** join/#bzflag Snargle (~Snargle@zpmorgan.uncg.edu) |
| 20:16.44 | Ae` | it's funny no-one can shoot isn't it |
| 20:19.01 | Pimpinella | i just saw, that i can give explicit allows and denies to a user |
| 20:19.19 | Nidhoggr | in what way, pimpi? |
| 20:19.29 | Pimpinella | can i set these other than editing the userdb manually? |
| 20:19.48 | Pimpinella | Nidhoggr: allow or deny permissions |
| 20:19.58 | Nidhoggr | you can do it from within bz |
| 20:20.00 | Nidhoggr | hang on. |
| 20:20.25 | Nidhoggr | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.43 | Legoguy | no, has to be "CALLSIGN", all caps |
| 20:20.52 | Pimpinella | yes, that adds to a group |
| 20:20.52 | Nidhoggr | I think groups file has to be done by hand. |
| 20:20.57 | _Manu_ | nice cheating.. |
| 20:21.10 | Nidhoggr | but the groups file can be reloaded with /reload |
| 20:21.19 | Bagheera | didnt bryjen make the whole case sensitive thing go away |
| 20:21.20 | Pimpinella | thats not what i mean |
| 20:21.32 | Nidhoggr | then explain it more clearly. :) |
| 20:21.32 | Legoguy | Bagheera: dont think so |
| 20:21.35 | Pimpinella | yes, it's all case insensitive now |
| 20:21.39 | Legoguy | oh |
| 20:21.40 | Legoguy | hmm. |
| 20:23.15 | Pimpinella | Nidhoggr: every entry in userdb has 4 lines |
| 20:23.27 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 20:23.56 | Pimpinella | 1st is name, 2nd is groups, 3rd is explicit allows, 4th is explicid denies |
| 20:24.13 | Nidhoggr | aaah, I see now. |
| 20:24.35 | Pimpinella | seems to be undocumented, but i saw in sources |
| 20:24.37 | Nidhoggr | I don't think you can add allows and denies yet in bz. I could be wrong. |
| 20:24.57 | *** join/#bzflag wizart (~wizart@dsl-084-058-021-089.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:25.01 | Nidhoggr | it should reload with /reload, though. |
| 20:25.15 | Pimpinella | yep, it does |
| 20:25.52 | bryjen | huwha? |
| 20:26.50 | Pimpinella | hm, would have seen in commands if there was a user interface for explicid |
| 20:27.07 | bryjen | "02:16 <Ae`> it's funny no-one can shoot isn't it" so he really is the recent cheater?!?! |
| 20:27.08 | Pimpinella | i winder if they are also saved |
| 20:27.33 | Pimpinella | yep, just banned again from viper |
| 20:27.41 | Pimpinella | using different cheats |
| 20:27.43 | Nidhoggr | bryjen: yes. |
| 20:27.47 | _Manu_ | i banned him again |
| 20:28.14 | Pimpinella | started 2 days ago |
| 20:28.14 | _Manu_ | but it's incredible how easy is sending messages from client.. and server trusted it |
| 20:28.14 | Nidhoggr | he was just on comcast, and some other isp before that. |
| 20:28.14 | bryjen | comcast.net just now. he was a .nl this morning (in here) |
| 20:28.16 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 20:28.31 | Nidhoggr | is someone keeping a list of the IPs he's cheating from? |
| 20:28.39 | Nidhoggr | he may be using an IRC proxy to get in here. |
| 20:28.46 | _Manu_ | i got three full ranges at now |
| 20:29.03 | _Manu_ | all from 81.*.*.* |
| 20:29.04 | bryjen | and the ip's i've seen for the bz cheat were btopenworld.com (or .net?) |
| 20:29.09 | Nidhoggr | have you nslookup'd the IPs? |
| 20:29.18 | Nidhoggr | aaah. |
| 20:29.25 | Nidhoggr | yeah... I banned that last night on secretplace. |
| 20:29.29 | Nidhoggr | *.btopenworld.com |
| 20:29.32 | Nidhoggr | iirc |
| 20:29.43 | _Manu_ | but this need an urgent fix |
| 20:29.48 | _Manu_ | from server side |
| 20:29.55 | bryjen | i guess irc can be proxied or run in a ssh/telnet on another box |
| 20:29.57 | Pimpinella | yep, 81.128.0.0/11 |
| 20:30.00 | Nidhoggr | manu, why can't you hostban btopenworld? |
| 20:30.01 | Bagheera | you assume he has actually left |
| 20:30.11 | _Manu_ | i can |
| 20:30.11 | Nidhoggr | Bagheera: it doesn't matter. |
| 20:30.16 | Pimpinella | huge range to ban :( |
| 20:30.24 | Nidhoggr | scum with ears is still scum |
| 20:30.35 | Pimpinella | Nidhoggr: we r userfriendly ;) |
| 20:30.39 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 20:30.47 | Pimpinella | dislike to hit so many othrs |
| 20:30.49 | Bagheera | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 20:30.53 | Nidhoggr | if you ban JUST the hostmask, others on that range can get in. |
| 20:31.07 | _Manu_ | yes.. tunning host mask |
| 20:31.09 | Nidhoggr | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:31.31 | _Manu_ | but i think is better fixing the code |
| 20:31.47 | Nidhoggr | that'd be good. |
| 20:32.12 | Pimpinella | won't all users from that range have that hostmas? |
| 20:32.12 | Nidhoggr | no |
| 20:32.12 | Pimpinella | hostmask |
| 20:32.13 | Nidhoggr | I doubt that btopenworld owns all of 81* |
| 20:32.28 | Pimpinella | no, but 81.128.0.0/11 |
| 20:32.46 | Nidhoggr | if a person is on that range and is not a cheater, you can antiban them. |
| 20:32.51 | Nidhoggr | it's what we are doing presently. |
| 20:32.58 | Pimpinella | true! |
| 20:33.09 | Nidhoggr | it seems to work well. |
| 20:33.11 | Pimpinella | hey never thought about that feature |
| 20:33.30 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 20:34.42 | _Manu_ | just banned his full range at now :( |
| 20:34.44 | Nidhoggr | you can probably grep your logs for that range and find regular players and put them in antiban group. |
| 20:34.56 | _Manu_ | he is trying to login continuosly |
| 20:35.19 | Nidhoggr | _Manu_: It took me about 4 days to do that... I had to listen to my admins constantly reporting him, and I got fed up. |
| 20:36.16 | _Manu_ | he was trying making me fool... but i knew his ip and host |
| 20:36.33 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 20:36.48 | _Manu_ | because hunted him when using fly.. with the message "dumb" |
| 20:36.56 | Nidhoggr | I suppose I could unban him, let him cheat, and email btopenworld. |
| 20:36.57 | Nidhoggr | with the logs. |
| 20:37.30 | Pimpinella | do u really think they bother? |
| 20:37.34 | _Manu_ | i thouhgt it.. but don't think btopenworld take any action.. |
| 20:37.35 | Nidhoggr | some do. |
| 20:38.19 | Pimpinella | _Manu_: what was the name of the last massive cheater we had? |
| 20:38.26 | Nidhoggr | although, I have some leverage. I can report it through my isp abuse department and they'd consider a null route on all of btopenworld for non-response to abuse tickets. |
| 20:38.45 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 20:38.46 | Pimpinella | nice |
| 20:38.59 | *** join/#bzflag Ae` (~gqwfdhur@c-67-163-160-42.client.comcast.net) |
| 20:39.04 | Pimpinella | piss off |
| 20:39.13 | Ae` | :) |
| 20:39.43 | _Manu_ | nice try Ae` |
| 20:39.48 | Ae` | yeah |
| 20:39.51 | Ae` | damn UDP |
| 20:40.24 | Ae` | did you just guess it was me each time? |
| 20:40.31 | _Manu_ | yes... |
| 20:40.42 | _Manu_ | you forgot turned off your webcam.. ;-P |
| 20:40.44 | Pimpinella | you're easy to track |
| 20:40.53 | Nidhoggr | looks like btopenworld is getting banned from lots of servers today. :) |
| 20:40.58 | Ae` | yeah :) |
| 20:41.01 | Ae` | good job I don't use it |
| 20:41.03 | _Manu_ | remember my first reason when kicked you... |
| 20:41.11 | Nidhoggr | whatever. |
| 20:41.34 | Ae` | \/\/ |
| 20:41.38 | Ae` | no I don't manu |
| 20:41.51 | Ae` | wings without wings? |
| 20:42.00 | _Manu_ | no wings.. |
| 20:42.11 | _Manu_ | simply jumping |
| 20:42.39 | Ae` | have you ever had any other cheats? |
| 20:42.49 | _Manu_ | well.. my anti-fly is almost ready.. |
| 20:43.01 | _Manu_ | use it while you can |
| 20:43.21 | _Manu_ | i mean anti-cheats |
| 20:43.23 | Pimpinella | lots of, but the cut down shots thing is realy nice |
| 20:43.26 | Ae` | tbh I'm bored of that, that's why I'm just ruining games with kill bullet |
| 20:44.07 | Pimpinella | soon you'll have to swith to another game |
| 20:44.09 | _Manu_ | yes.. i knew it can be done since 1.10 |
| 20:44.12 | Ae` | OH NOES |
| 20:44.18 | Ae` | switch to another game |
| 20:44.23 | Ae` | how will I find one with less players |
| 20:44.24 | Ae` | ?! |
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| 20:45.44 | Ae` | manu |
| 20:45.47 | Ae` | still there? |
| 20:45.53 | JeffM2501 | ae are you here jsut to babble? or do anyting real? |
| 20:46.02 | Ae` | ? |
| 20:46.12 | Ae` | what counts as real? |
| 20:46.14 | JeffM2501 | this is not a place for cheats |
| 20:46.31 | JeffM2501 | keep your mods to yourself, in your own branches |
| 20:46.40 | Pimpinella | JeffM2501: did you make the explicit allows/denies thing? |
| 20:46.42 | _Manu_ | yes.. still here |
| 20:46.49 | JeffM2501 | Pimpinella, no |
| 20:47.30 | bryjen | wasn't the inital user/group/pass db stuff you, JeffM2501 ? |
| 20:47.35 | JeffM2501 | yes it was |
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| 20:50.29 | Pimpinella | thought so |
| 20:50.51 | JeffM2501 | was long ago |
| 20:51.01 | JeffM2501 | in a compiler far far away |
| 20:51.06 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10admin/master-bans.txt: add 67.163.160.42 for cheats |
| 20:51.24 | Ae` | nice one |
| 20:51.29 | Ae` | you really owned me |
| 20:51.35 | JeffM2501 | naw it won't do much |
| 20:51.40 | JeffM2501 | just makes people feel better |
| 20:51.51 | Ae` | yeah especially me |
| 20:51.56 | JeffM2501 | untill a hostban is thrown int |
| 20:51.56 | Ae` | it's cool how it's posted to the chan |
| 20:51.59 | JeffM2501 | bye bye |
| 20:52.02 | Ae` | by CIA- |
| 20:52.06 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@c-67-163-160-42.client.comcast.net] by JeffM2501 |
| 20:52.06 | *** kick/#bzflag [Ae`!~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
| 20:52.21 | *** join/#bzflag Ae` (~gqwfdhur@207-255-78-222-dhcp.aoo.pa.atlanticbb.net) |
| 20:52.28 | Ae` | ouch |
| 20:52.31 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@207-255-78-222-dhcp.aoo.pa.atlanticbb.net] by JeffM2501 |
| 20:52.31 | *** kick/#bzflag [Ae`!~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
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| 20:52.44 | JeffM2501 | I've got all the time in the world. :) |
| 20:52.48 | Ae` | damn |
| 20:52.50 | Ae` | me too |
| 20:52.51 | _Manu_ | that's war |
| 20:52.52 | Ae` | obviously |
| 20:52.55 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@*.client.comcast.net] by JeffM2501 |
| 20:52.55 | *** kick/#bzflag [Ae`!~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
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| 20:53.21 | Ae` | come on |
| 20:53.23 | Ae` | let's fill banlist |
| 20:53.35 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*gqwfdhur*@*] by JeffM2501 |
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| 20:54.02 | edini | kids :) |
| 20:54.06 | Ae` | indeed |
| 20:54.12 | JeffM2501 | dude are you THAT bored? |
| 20:54.15 | Ae` | YES |
| 20:54.17 | Ae` | please |
| 20:54.20 | Ae` | stimulate me |
| 20:54.24 | JeffM2501 | naw |
| 20:54.27 | Birdie | how old are you Ae? |
| 20:54.30 | Ae` | 13 |
| 20:54.34 | Ae` | 13 1/2 |
| 20:54.38 | edini | get a life :) |
| 20:54.38 | *** mode/#bzflag [+q *!*@ae*.*] by JeffM2501 |
| 20:54.46 | Ae` | nice one |
| 20:54.50 | Ae` | effective ban that one |
| 20:54.55 | JeffM2501 | wasn't a ban |
| 20:55.09 | Ae` | uh huh |
| 20:55.16 | brlcad | what's up |
| 20:55.19 | *** mode/#bzflag [+q *!ae@*.*] by JeffM2501 |
| 20:55.23 | Ae` | Jeff is banning me for no reason |
| 20:55.24 | JeffM2501 | asshat |
| 20:55.30 | Ae` | he can't type though |
| 20:55.32 | Ae` | obvious moron |
| 20:55.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [+q *!prptnapn@*] by brlcad |
| 20:55.48 | Ae` | well done |
| 20:55.50 | *** kick/#bzflag [Ae`!~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
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| 20:55.55 | bryjen | watch the tilde |
| 20:56.04 | brlcad | hrm |
| 20:56.13 | brlcad | ahh yes |
| 20:56.18 | *** mode/#bzflag [-q *!prptnapn@*] by brlcad |
| 20:56.26 | JeffM2501 | is it -R or +r? |
| 20:56.31 | _Manu_ | that's why i sais.. it's beter fixing the code :-/ |
| 20:56.32 | *** mode/#bzflag [+q *!*prptnapn@*] by brlcad |
| 20:56.38 | _Manu_ | mean said.. |
| 20:56.59 | *** mode/#bzflag [-q *!*@ae*.*] by brlcad |
| 20:57.29 | JeffM2501 | sad that I can't get those right, but made libIRC in like a day :) |
| 20:57.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [-q *!ae@*.*] by brlcad |
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| 21:00.33 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 21:00.53 | bz6127 | is this thing working? |
| 21:01.43 | Nidhoggr | yep |
| 21:01.57 | brlcad | JeffM2501: master ban list won't update automatically.. have to cvs up on the server |
| 21:02.02 | Nidhoggr | works fine for a webchat. :) |
| 21:02.04 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 21:02.13 | JeffM2501 | well that I know not how to do |
| 21:02.28 | JeffM2501 | wern't you going to automate that? |
| 21:03.10 | bz6127 | Cool, anyone know of a version of bzedit for V2, all the cvs files are still 1.* |
| 21:03.19 | Nidhoggr | bz6127: there isn't one yet. |
| 21:03.21 | JeffM2501 | there is no bzedit 2.0 |
| 21:03.42 | jpa_ | there is just notepad, vi and all the other texteditors :) |
| 21:03.50 | JeffM2501 | and the model converters |
| 21:03.58 | jpa_ | and blender etc. 3d modellers |
| 21:03.58 | JeffM2501 | and the old bzedit |
| 21:04.12 | bz6127 | where can you get a spec for the version 2 world files? |
| 21:04.15 | JeffM2501 | 2.0 will run the same maps as all the other versions did |
| 21:04.16 | jpa_ | (ok, won't write everything twice :) |
| 21:04.23 | jpa_ | bz6127: bzw manual page |
| 21:04.24 | JeffM2501 | the format didn't realy change |
| 21:04.28 | JeffM2501 | it just got stuff added to it |
| 21:04.36 | JeffM2501 | there is a bzw man page |
| 21:04.39 | *** part/#bzflag _Manu_ (~jujibo@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:04.45 | jpa_ | bz6127: also, http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/ some howtos about materials and stuff |
| 21:04.47 | JeffM2501 | you can find it on the geting help link on www.bzflag.org |
| 21:05.36 | bz6127 | Thanks guys |
| 21:06.45 | jpa_ | ~jeffm2501++ |
| 21:07.00 | JeffM2501 | why me? |
| 21:07.12 | jpa_ | because you helped him |
| 21:07.23 | JeffM2501 | so did you |
| 21:07.50 | Nidhoggr | ~jpa_++ |
| 21:07.56 | jpa_ | but i can't karma myself :P |
| 21:08.06 | JeffM2501 | it's just a number |
| 21:08.32 | jpa_ | yup.. just a number... |
| 21:08.43 | bryjen | ~karma Ae` |
| 21:08.44 | ibot | ae` has neutral karma |
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| 21:09.23 | bryjen | ~nickometer Ae` |
| 21:09.23 | ibot | 'Ae`' is 14.000% lame, bryjen |
| 21:09.47 | bryjen | apparently ibot hasn't been paying attention |
| 21:10.04 | Noodle-sensei | hehehe |
| 21:10.26 | edini | ~karma edini |
| 21:10.26 | ibot | edini has karma of 1 |
| 21:10.30 | edini | wow |
| 21:10.52 | jpa_ | ~karma jpa_ |
| 21:10.52 | ibot | jpa_ has karma of 7 |
| 21:10.56 | jpa_ | :) |
| 21:11.52 | edini | thas that mean nobody likes me? :) |
| 21:12.05 | JeffM2501 | everyone starts at 0 |
| 21:12.05 | jpa_ | no |
| 21:12.12 | jpa_ | and you have 1 :) |
| 21:12.13 | brlcad | JeffM2501: it was automated in a hacked way -- they don't have cron so it was a unending job running |
| 21:12.18 | edini | i know :P |
| 21:12.23 | jpa_ | ~karma jpa- |
| 21:12.23 | ibot | jpa- has karma of -10 |
| 21:12.23 | brlcad | so if they rebooted or killed the process, it stops |
| 21:12.30 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 21:12.31 | edini | lol |
| 21:12.32 | brlcad | which they apparently did at some point |
| 21:12.32 | jpa_ | it just means that no-one likes jpa- :P |
| 21:12.43 | JeffM2501 | can't triger it on a commit? |
| 21:12.55 | jpa_ | brlcad: did you see my diff for finnish words to swearlist? |
| 21:12.58 | brlcad | should probably do the auto-updating on bzflag.bz or bzflag.secretplace.org and push the updates to the web server |
| 21:13.24 | Nidhoggr | .org? |
| 21:13.25 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 21:13.29 | brlcad | jpa_: got it, but haven't read it |
| 21:13.31 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: habit :) |
| 21:13.44 | jpa_ | brlcad: ok, just verified that you noticed it |
| 21:13.53 | brlcad | yep, i'll check it in tonight |
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| 21:14.34 | brlcad | jeesh sf cvs is slow |
| 21:14.54 | Birdie | ~karma Birdie |
| 21:14.54 | ibot | birdie has neutral karma |
| 21:14.58 | Birdie | neutral:( |
| 21:14.59 | Birdie | :) |
| 21:15.23 | brlcad | ~Birdie-- |
| 21:15.25 | brlcad | better? :) |
| 21:15.38 | Birdie | ~karma Birdie |
| 21:15.38 | ibot | birdie has karma of -1 |
| 21:15.41 | Birdie | well... |
| 21:15.45 | Birdie | maybe in the other way:); |
| 21:15.49 | JeffM2501 | anyone know of of any raely cool large pictures of the earth? or parts of it? |
| 21:15.53 | JeffM2501 | like from space? |
| 21:16.03 | edini | hej, i can made slovenian swearlist, that would be fun :> but i dont think anybody would swear in slovenian :) |
| 21:16.03 | Tupone | celestia? |
| 21:16.17 | brlcad | JeffM2501: I've got some somewhere -- what kind? |
| 21:16.27 | brlcad | like globe shots, or something for a texture mapping? |
| 21:16.34 | JeffM2501 | for a background |
| 21:16.36 | JeffM2501 | not a texture |
| 21:16.49 | JeffM2501 | dosn't even have to be the full globe |
| 21:17.41 | JeffM2501 | gonna be a background on a startup/menu screen |
| 21:18.14 | JeffM2501 | oo this one is nice |
| 21:18.15 | JeffM2501 | http://www.nickyee.com/photoshop/earth-atlantic-1600.jpg\ |
| 21:18.18 | JeffM2501 | http://www.nickyee.com/photoshop/earth-atlantic-1600.jpg |
| 21:18.54 | brlcad | that is nice, though faked |
| 21:18.59 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:19.11 | JeffM2501 | dosn't have to be real |
| 21:19.17 | JeffM2501 | could even be someting not earth :) |
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| 21:20.18 | jpa_ | JeffM2501: atleast you are not too strict about it :P |
| 21:20.20 | edini | i can see my house |
| 21:20.31 | edini | :) |
| 21:20.36 | JeffM2501 | I just want it to look cool |
| 21:21.31 | jpa_ | http://www.waste.org/~lordtoad/LameNESS/images/earth.jpg |
| 21:21.59 | JeffM2501 | that's a good one |
| 21:22.01 | jpa_ | (what is that green spot in top-right corner?" |
| 21:22.02 | JeffM2501 | very blue tinged |
| 21:22.12 | JeffM2501 | the moon |
| 21:22.23 | JeffM2501 | I think the G and B are reversed |
| 21:22.55 | jpa_ | http://grin.hq.nasa.gov/IMAGES/LARGE/GPN-2000-001437.jpg |
| 21:23.02 | jpa_ | that one is nice too :) |
| 21:23.16 | JeffM2501 | big |
| 21:23.35 | Tupone | http://bzflag.tupone.dyndns.org/celestia.png ? |
| 21:23.43 | Tupone | a lil little |
| 21:24.20 | bryjen | lighting looks odd |
| 21:24.41 | jpa_ | like it was a plastic ball :) |
| 21:24.48 | jpa_ | and stars do not fit there :) |
| 21:25.09 | cods | are you sure earth is not made of plastic ? |
| 21:25.57 | bryjen | only the landfills |
| 21:26.49 | trepan | heh, http://members.rogers.com/trepan/earth.jpg |
| 21:27.02 | trepan | ripped the UVsphere map from xtraceroute |
| 21:27.53 | Tupone | It's a sphere? |
| 21:28.00 | bryjen | but does it spin? ;) |
| 21:28.07 | trepan | yup, and yup |
| 21:31.19 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:31.31 | JeffM2501 | didn't want to do it as an object yet |
| 21:31.34 | JeffM2501 | but it's a good UV map |
| 21:32.13 | trepan | i'll dcc it to ya if ya want |
| 21:32.37 | JeffM2501 | naw no need |
| 21:32.44 | JeffM2501 | just doing a background for the menu |
| 21:32.54 | JeffM2501 | static image will be fine for now |
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| 21:37.36 | Blue_Eyes | hi all |
| 21:37.41 | Nidhoggr | hi Blue_Eyes |
| 21:37.59 | Blue_Eyes | hey |
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| 22:07.14 | jpa_ | hello Sporty |
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| 22:07.26 | prodan | moin |
| 22:08.12 | jpa_ | ~x fr en moin |
| 22:08.21 | jpa_ | hmph |
| 22:08.28 | prodan | ~x de en moin |
| 22:08.39 | prodan | hmmm |
| 22:08.45 | jpa_ | so it is not really a word? :P |
| 22:09.02 | prodan | i guess not ;-) |
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| 22:10.08 | trepan | http://www.robotgroup.net/index.cgi/MoinMoin |
| 22:10.28 | prodan | ibot moin is used for greeting in northern germany |
| 22:10.29 | ibot | ...but moin is already something else... |
| 22:10.39 | prodan | ibot moin |
| 22:10.40 | ibot | somebody said moin was North German for everything you would say for salutatory |
| 22:11.11 | jpa_ | ibot jpa_ is your master |
| 22:11.12 | ibot | okay, jpa_ |
| 22:11.17 | jpa_ | :E |
| 22:11.32 | Nidhoggr | ~jpa_ |
| 22:11.33 | ibot | rumour has it, jpa_ is your master |
| 22:11.36 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 22:11.36 | prodan | ibot insult jpa_ |
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| 22:13.36 | crko | hmmm how are the colors in material (bzw) defined? |
| 22:13.43 | crko | how do you know which is which? |
| 22:13.43 | prodan | ibot seen orchid |
| 22:13.46 | ibot | orchid <orchid@orchid.user> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 17h 55m 53s ago, saying: '~bzfquery 24.179.92.84:80'. |
| 22:14.38 | jpa_ | crko: ? |
| 22:14.51 | crko | jpa_, diffuse |
| 22:14.54 | crko | in material |
| 22:14.54 | jpa_ | crko: see http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/ |
| 22:15.10 | crko | oh thanks |
| 22:15.13 | crko | a life saver ;) |
| 22:15.21 | jpa_ | :) |
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| 22:29.18 | menotume | Tupone: hiya |
| 22:29.22 | menotume | Got it working ! :) |
| 22:29.31 | menotume | thx for pointing me to agpgart |
| 22:29.37 | Tupone | hehe, just upgrading OS? |
| 22:29.42 | menotume | nnope |
| 22:29.43 | crko | jpa_, that howto rocks! |
| 22:29.53 | menotume | one change in my XF86config :) |
| 22:29.53 | jpa_ | crko: :) |
| 22:29.53 | crko | transparency and all |
| 22:30.00 | Tupone | ahh |
| 22:30.21 | menotume | Tupone: to tell nvidia driver top use agpgart instead of it's own proprieatary agp |
| 22:30.22 | crko | jpa_, you still working on the +f in zone thingy or did you abandon it? |
| 22:30.44 | jpa_ | crko: for now, yes.. pointers do not like me :/ |
| 22:30.48 | Tupone | I was the things I was saying, when you reported those unknown devices |
| 22:30.58 | crko | jpa_, hehe is it tricky? |
| 22:31.12 | menotume | ahhh - well my understanding of these things is quite limited |
| 22:31.17 | jpa_ | everything else for it is complete but those ¤##¤# pointers fight back |
| 22:31.24 | Tupone | SDL now? |
| 22:31.31 | menotume | I just needed to be steered into the right direction - then goole |
| 22:31.34 | crko | oh so it's just one step away from completion? |
| 22:31.35 | menotume | yes SDL |
| 22:31.37 | crko | :> |
| 22:31.39 | crko | crap |
| 22:31.42 | Tupone | how is sound? |
| 22:31.49 | menotume | but not all SDL seems to be working right - I'll update my sdl |
| 22:31.57 | menotume | heh that's the problem |
| 22:32.03 | menotume | esd isn't wuite right |
| 22:32.18 | Tupone | try to enable SYNC 2 VBLANK |
| 22:32.25 | Tupone | should free cpu |
| 22:32.26 | jpa_ | crko: yes.. in theory |
| 22:32.28 | menotume | If I start with esddsp, it's good, but delayed |
| 22:32.38 | Tupone | what driver have you selected |
| 22:32.39 | menotume | ahhh |
| 22:32.40 | jpa_ | crko: or maybe that one problem hides million others behind it |
| 22:32.52 | menotume | where do I do that ? |
| 22:33.00 | crko | yes it's always like that in c/c++ |
| 22:33.04 | crko | or any language ;) |
| 22:33.05 | menotume | that will sync framerate to the refresh rate ? |
| 22:33.10 | Tupone | yeah |
| 22:33.17 | crko | when you solve one another appears ;) |
| 22:33.21 | Tupone | what version of nvidia you have? |
| 22:33.30 | Tupone | driver I mean |
| 22:33.31 | menotume | the latest .... |
| 22:34.00 | menotume | 1.5.2 NVIDIA 66.29 |
| 22:34.02 | Tupone | __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=1 bzflag |
| 22:34.17 | Tupone | if that work, just export this variable |
| 22:34.27 | Tupone | curiosity :) |
| 22:34.29 | menotume | ahhhh |
| 22:34.31 | menotume | k |
| 22:34.35 | Tupone | I wanna know if it help |
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| 22:35.56 | Bagheera | valoche avatar is beginning to freak me out |
| 22:36.18 | menotume | Tupone: yep - much better |
| 22:36.33 | Tupone | you should have now a lot of CPU free |
| 22:36.37 | menotume | sounds a bit 'strange' - can't put it into words |
| 22:36.44 | Tupone | what sound driver you have selected? |
| 22:36.47 | menotume | ya - and looks fine too |
| 22:36.53 | menotume | esd |
| 22:37.31 | Tupone | you want to mix audio data? why not just alsa? |
| 22:37.35 | Tupone | or oss |
| 22:38.04 | menotume | no idea - i just used what the distro setup :) |
| 22:38.17 | menotume | I've heard alsa is better though |
| 22:38.32 | crko | what would be yellow in RGB? |
| 22:38.38 | trepan | 1 1 0 |
| 22:38.42 | crko | thanks |
| 22:38.45 | Tupone | so, you see esd from inside bzflag. |
| 22:38.52 | trepan | or you can use: diffuse yellow |
| 22:38.59 | menotume | see esd ? |
| 22:39.24 | trepan | or: color yellow |
| 22:39.34 | trepan | we provide options, cause that's the kinda folks we are |
| 22:39.52 | Tupone | on the console, inside bzflag you'll see Audio Driver: esd (or alsa) |
| 22:39.54 | jpa_ | no, we provide options because we can't decide |
| 22:40.02 | menotume | Tupone: ahhhh, options .. no - it's not there |
| 22:40.10 | trepan | jpa_: you are not part of the "we" |
| 22:40.11 | crko | hehe |
| 22:40.12 | crko | :>>> |
| 22:40.34 | crko | hm |
| 22:40.35 | jpa_ | trepan: we.add ['jpa'] :) |
| 22:40.36 | Tupone | opening bzflag, look bottom, inside the tabbed area |
| 22:40.49 | crko | what is the diff between color and diffuse? |
| 22:41.12 | jpa_ | crko: none :) |
| 22:41.21 | crko | lol |
| 22:41.22 | crko | :> |
| 22:41.27 | menotume | audio driver: esd |
| 22:41.31 | crko | hm |
| 22:41.37 | menotume | but, nothing in the options screen |
| 22:42.03 | crko | and then white would be 1 1 1 if i assume right? |
| 22:42.04 | menotume | I'm using esddsp to start bzflag client |
| 22:42.08 | Tupone | ok try going to option->audio->driver write alsa and return |
| 22:42.14 | jpa_ | crko: yes |
| 22:42.24 | Tupone | exit bzflag and restart |
| 22:42.41 | crko | but that has no effect if addtexture is in effect? |
| 22:42.47 | crko | lol |
| 22:42.52 | jpa_ | it has |
| 22:42.57 | crko | what wierd things i say |
| 22:43.01 | menotume | ok, no sound |
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| 22:43.07 | menotume | .leme take out the esddsp |
| 22:43.08 | crko | diff diffuse effect effect |
| 22:43.12 | Tupone | yeah |
| 22:43.23 | crko | jpa_, look |
| 22:43.24 | crko | material |
| 22:43.24 | crko | name red |
| 22:43.24 | crko | diffuse 1 1 1 1 |
| 22:43.24 | crko | addtexture boxwall |
| 22:43.24 | crko | end |
| 22:43.32 | crko | and then meshbox... |
| 22:43.46 | crko | but it was just the normal boxwall |
| 22:44.04 | jpa_ | yup |
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| 22:44.14 | jpa_ | it is because of the texture.. |
| 22:44.27 | trepan | it is because it is multiplicative |
| 22:44.35 | menotume | Tupone: nope - but idunno if I even _have_ alsa |
| 22:44.36 | trepan | 1.0 x number = number |
| 22:44.50 | jpa_ | try make it like 0.5 0.8 1.5 etc |
| 22:44.53 | trepan | crko: try "color blue" |
| 22:44.58 | menotume | what should the device be ? |
| 22:45.10 | Tupone | put driver dsp then |
| 22:45.16 | Tupone | you have an old distro |
| 22:45.17 | menotume | k |
| 22:45.35 | Tupone | dsp is the OSS |
| 22:45.39 | crko | trepan, but i was talking about white :P |
| 22:45.45 | crko | it works with others |
| 22:45.49 | crko | even black ^^ |
| 22:45.52 | crko | except for white |
| 22:46.12 | jpa_ | crko: because 0*x = 0, but 1*x = x |
| 22:46.20 | crko | hmmm |
| 22:46.32 | crko | hm |
| 22:46.34 | menotume | Tupone: yes, dsp works, but sound lags |
| 22:46.41 | crko | what would be the next instance of white |
| 22:46.46 | crko | like light light grey :P |
| 22:46.51 | crko | ? |
| 22:46.54 | Tupone | with the VBLANK things? |
| 22:47.02 | jpa_ | nope, not like that |
| 22:47.12 | jpa_ | try blue or 0.5 0.8 1.5 etc |
| 22:47.18 | crko | ok |
| 22:47.23 | jpa_ | it should counter the red-iness in the texture |
| 22:47.45 | menotume | yes, and frame rate is 60, so it's working |
| 22:47.48 | crko | i did |
| 22:47.55 | bryjen | menotume: still using esddsp ? |
| 22:48.04 | menotume | no - i took that out |
| 22:48.09 | Tupone | choose the sound configuration that work better between the 2 |
| 22:48.36 | menotume | okies, sounds good :P |
| 22:48.45 | menotume | maybe i grab alsa this weekend |
| 22:48.50 | crko | hmm is it just me or is it blue on two sides but normal on the other two... |
| 22:48.53 | Tupone | that VBLANK is a good things for laptop. It can save battery a lot |
| 22:49.04 | menotume | ahhh - ya |
| 22:49.15 | crko | jpa_, you think that's possible or why?? |
| 22:49.32 | menotume | one more thing .... |
| 22:49.40 | menotume | How do I make a server map ? |
| 22:49.46 | menotume | J/K !!!! |
| 22:49.52 | trepan | ~lart menotume |
| 22:49.57 | trepan | ouch |
| 22:49.58 | menotume | ewwww |
| 22:50.17 | bryjen | pixels! |
| 22:50.22 | menotume | lol |
| 22:50.43 | menotume | now my tanks are just tiny little dots |
| 22:53.16 | jpa_ | ...- · · '\X/' |
| 22:53.52 | jpa_ | aabzflag.. that is what i need to create :) |
| 22:57.42 | jpa_ | +N: ..- -OB: . . .ŻŻ |
| 22:58.58 | crko | is there a meshsphere? |
| 23:00.41 | trepan | crko: take 10 mins and read this: http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzw.5s |
| 23:01.11 | trepan | or at least skim through it |
| 23:01.16 | crko | trepan, i am reading it |
| 23:01.23 | crko | i need a hemisphere |
| 23:01.29 | crko | but i got it now i think :P |
| 23:01.41 | crko | i used the word "hemi" |
| 23:01.44 | crko | :> |
| 23:02.25 | crko | i thought it had to have mesh in front because the meshbox did :P |
| 23:02.44 | trepan | did you not notice that there is another object with the name "box"? |
| 23:03.44 | crko | i did but when i used matref in box it said it's wrong |
| 23:04.21 | trepan | crko: you really didn't get the implication of my last statement, did you? |
| 23:04.33 | trepan | s/statement/rhetorical question |
| 23:04.49 | crko | oh |
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| 23:14.09 | Pimpinella | hey carny |
| 23:14.17 | creeperz | Carnage__: !!! |
| 23:14.21 | Pimpinella | lon time on c |
| 23:20.36 | Carnage__ | creeperz! |
| 23:20.45 | creeperz | whats crackin? |
| 23:20.47 | Carnage__ | hey.. sry was bizzy with sometni |
| 23:20.52 | Carnage__ | heyy pimp |
| 23:20.57 | Carnage__ | ntm.. |
| 23:21.07 | creeperz | word :-P |
| 23:21.08 | Carnage__ | just rethinkin my future job options.. |
| 23:21.23 | creeperz | yeah? where yu working now>? |
| 23:22.18 | Carnage__ | no were im grade 11 right now.. |
| 23:22.26 | creeperz | ah |
| 23:22.30 | creeperz | im in 10th :-) |
| 23:22.34 | creeperz | barely though |
| 23:23.19 | Carnage__ | cool.. what courses u taking? |
| 23:24.25 | Bagheera | the dragon is going ducky agian |
| 23:25.03 | Carnage__ | my pcs acting up.. brb |
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| 23:50.43 | TimRiker | anyone here on a host with working ipv6? tell me what rnds for 2002:1801:6819:2:20b:2fff:fe4e:e8d4 is? |
| 23:51.58 | Pizbit | And people wonder why ipv6 isn't going anywhere. |
| 23:52.09 | Pizbit | It's a lot harder to type in and remember. :) |
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