| 00:00.52 | *** join/#bzflag darth_mall (~evan@128.138.74.40) |
| 00:00.56 | *** join/#bzflag shorty114 (~shorty114@shorty114.user) |
| 00:03.27 | *** join/#bzflag Grumbler (~Grumbler@grumbler.bronze.supporter.pdpc) |
| 00:03.44 | Grumbler | ~seen brlcad |
| 00:03.49 | ibot | brlcad is currently on #brlcad (5h 43m 40s) #bzflag (5h 43m 40s). Has said a total of 76 messages. Is idling for 2h 10m |
| 00:03.58 | Grumbler | ~seen learner |
| 00:03.59 | ibot | learner is currently on #opencombat (1h 57m 23s) #brlcad (1h 57m 23s) #bzflag (1h 57m 23s). Has said a total of 66 messages. Is idling for 1h 6m 3s |
| 00:04.13 | Grumbler | ~seen JBdiGriz |
| 00:04.14 | ibot | jbdigriz is currently on #opencombat (1d 8h 28m 53s) #bzflag (1d 8h 28m 53s). Has said a total of 15 messages. Is idling for 7h 24m 46s |
| 00:05.08 | Grumbler | brlcad, how on an emac do you tell if it has a burner or not...ie superdrive? |
| 00:06.09 | Grumbler | i assume, because it is an apple, that it does not say it on the cd door |
| 00:06.53 | brlcad | select the apple icon |
| 00:07.04 | shorty114 | apple system profiler |
| 00:07.05 | brlcad | click on "About this Mac" |
| 00:07.17 | brlcad | click on the "More Info..." button |
| 00:07.37 | brlcad | Under hardware -> ATA should be the dvd drive |
| 00:07.45 | *** join/#bzflag linuxclub (~linuxclub@ppp-217-133-1-186.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 00:08.12 | JBdiGriz | It will say something like Pioneer DVD-RW |
| 00:08.13 | brlcad | select the drive on the top right panel and it should list on the bottom right panel under drive type what it is |
| 00:08.55 | Grumbler | sony dvd-rw dw-ut10a --------- = superdrive? |
| 00:09.08 | brlcad | yep |
| 00:09.17 | JBdiGriz | Close enough, I think they sold Sonys at one point |
| 00:09.23 | JBdiGriz | Mine is a Pioneer |
| 00:09.42 | brlcad | mine is a Matshita CD-RW/DVD-ROM |
| 00:09.47 | brlcad | on this laptop at least |
| 00:09.50 | JBdiGriz | from Apple? |
| 00:10.26 | Grumbler | danke .............debugging a system i have never seen stinks......thanks fior the help |
| 00:10.47 | JBdiGriz | Get Apple remote admin :P |
| 00:11.22 | brlcad | ~tupone++ |
| 00:11.35 | brlcad | JBdiGriz: yep, from apple |
| 00:11.57 | JBdiGriz | Good, apple has finally learned to avoid single sources of components. |
| 00:12.23 | brlcad | stock first generation Ti 800 |
| 00:14.56 | Grumbler | remote admin would be nice if he wasnt on a dial up.... |
| 00:15.13 | shorty114 | lol |
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| 00:24.57 | *** part/#bzflag linuxclub (~linuxclub@ppp-217-133-1-186.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 00:25.20 | brlcad | http://iwantmyvacation.com/need.html |
| 00:26.37 | brlcad | the food, the women, and a vacation every 8 days |
| 00:27.00 | Aribeth | for me its only 10 days vacation a year |
| 00:27.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ (17 files in 6 dirs): Allow user to select what physical joystick axes to use for driving about. |
| 00:27.31 | DTRemenak | whee |
| 00:27.55 | DTRemenak | that was a larger patch than I expected it to be... |
| 00:28.08 | Aribeth | and they give me hell when i want to take it all at once |
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| 00:29.06 | Aribeth | and when im on vacation they call me every day |
| 00:29.23 | brlcad | that's easy, don't answer the phone :P |
| 00:29.40 | brlcad | get rid of it even :) |
| 00:29.42 | Aribeth | i tried that. they found a way |
| 00:29.45 | Tegan | try putting it in a bucket of salt water for 24 hours? |
| 00:30.05 | brlcad | hi Tegan |
| 00:30.25 | Aribeth | my only escape is to leave town. lol |
| 00:30.45 | shorty114 | hi a_monkey |
| 00:30.47 | shorty114 | sup Aribeth? |
| 00:31.02 | Aribeth | workin on giza |
| 00:31.13 | shorty114 | seems you always are ;) |
| 00:31.24 | Aribeth | im workin on the water |
| 00:31.35 | shorty114 | ah |
| 00:31.46 | shorty114 | i'm working on a well-formatted bzw man page :) |
| 00:31.47 | a_monkey | hi shorty114 |
| 00:32.00 | Aribeth | good. we need one |
| 00:32.07 | shorty114 | hang on a sec |
| 00:32.11 | shorty114 | i'll give you a preview |
| 00:32.12 | brlcad | shorty114: you trying to say I did a crappy job?!! |
| 00:32.16 | Aribeth | cool |
| 00:32.19 | brlcad | shorty114: well I did :) |
| 00:32.25 | brlcad | ~shorty114++ |
| 00:32.41 | Aribeth | hi trepan |
| 00:32.57 | trepan | hola |
| 00:33.02 | shorty114 | brlcad: heh |
| 00:33.10 | shorty114 | hmm..where did i save it... |
| 00:33.17 | shorty114 | this is stupid... |
| 00:33.24 | shorty114 | i'm 12 and ii have alseihmers |
| 00:33.30 | shorty114 | ~spell alseihmers |
| 00:33.32 | ibot | possible spellings for alseihmers: Aleichem's Alzheimer's aligners assumer's slimmers aimers assumes isomers Alzheimer Elysiums claimers simmers Algiers Alister's Alasteir's Alice's Elsie's Elysium's aliases Aylmer's alarms dulcimers ulsters Aleichem aligner's Allister's alerters glimmers slimes alases alterers alums elastomer's lamers lasers Aleece's Aloise's ... |
| 00:33.37 | shorty114 | ah there we go |
| 00:33.41 | Aribeth | lol |
| 00:34.26 | Aribeth | my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. |
| 00:34.40 | shorty114 | Oh |
| 00:34.44 | shorty114 | it's in my home folder >.< |
| 00:35.20 | shorty114 | http://tmp.shorty114.net/bzflag/man.bzw.html |
| 00:35.21 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 00:35.30 | brlcad | her mind is in your home directory? |
| 00:35.37 | brlcad | careful with the rm -rf |
| 00:35.44 | Aribeth | hehehe |
| 00:35.46 | shorty114 | lol |
| 00:35.55 | shorty114 | it's half done |
| 00:36.04 | Aribeth | got it |
| 00:36.05 | shorty114 | so there's a bunch of gibberish |
| 00:36.23 | shorty114 | does it looked b0rked in IE? |
| 00:36.30 | shorty114 | i'm worried about the width:auto;'s |
| 00:37.05 | Aribeth | i dont use Exploder |
| 00:37.20 | Aribeth | er...IE |
| 00:37.26 | shorty114 | yeah, but, unfortunately, some ppl do :) |
| 00:37.32 | Aribeth | true |
| 00:37.43 | shorty114 | the world would be a better place w/o ie... |
| 00:37.53 | Aribeth | yes |
| 00:40.16 | Grumbler | thanks again people for the help......... |
| 00:40.54 | shorty114 | texture size? |
| 00:41.27 | Tegan | probably |
| 00:42.45 | shorty114 | heh |
| 00:58.01 | cods | My server is crashing all the time when a particular player try to join. It appear that he've an entry in my password file, but not in user file. Is that the reason ? (I know it's fixed in CVS, but I don't know what was fixed.) |
| 00:58.36 | trepan | cods: recent server build? |
| 00:58.41 | trepan | there have been some fixes lately |
| 00:59.07 | cods | Nope, an "old' build, 13 days old. |
| 00:59.38 | tea|tree | ~d |
| 00:59.46 | tea|tree | banana? |
| 01:00.14 | shorty114 | d = ducati? |
| 01:00.23 | shorty114 | ~shorty114 |
| 01:00.25 | ibot | i guess shorty114 is our resident kiddie. |
| 01:00.42 | blast007 | ~literal d |
| 01:00.43 | ibot | "d" is "<reply> see bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156" |
| 01:01.02 | shorty114 | oh |
| 01:01.58 | trepan | cods: might wanna update, to see if it makes a difference ;) |
| 01:02.29 | trepan | cods: oops, completely missed the last part of your originial message |
| 01:02.55 | trepan | cods: it was some unchecked GameKeeper::getPlayerByIndex()'s i think |
| 01:03.34 | cods | trepan: hmmm. and that may be related to the fact that player is in password but not in user file ? |
| 01:03.58 | trepan | ah, that might have been the one committed by JeffM, ends of lists weren't checked |
| 01:04.05 | trepan | who cares, it's fixed :) |
| 01:04.15 | cods | anyway, I need to upgrade.. :) |
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| 01:10.56 | shorty114 | ~literal blast007 |
| 01:10.57 | ibot | "blast007" is "(crazy|insane|wacky)" |
| 01:11.05 | blast007 | :) |
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| 01:12.05 | tea|tree | ~literal teatree |
| 01:12.14 | tea|tree | :o( |
| 01:13.55 | *** part/#bzflag a_monkey (~thechimp@user-0can32u.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 01:14.27 | shorty114 | heh tea|tree |
| 01:14.43 | shorty114 | ~forget blast007 |
| 01:14.43 | ibot | i forgot blast007, shorty114 |
| 01:14.53 | shorty114 | ~blast007 is very (crazy|insane|wacky) |
| 01:14.54 | ibot | shorty114: okay |
| 01:14.56 | shorty114 | ~blast007 |
| 01:14.57 | ibot | [blast007] very wacky |
| 01:15.14 | shorty114 | ~blast007 |
| 01:15.15 | ibot | i guess blast007 is very insane |
| 01:15.23 | shorty114 | ~blast007 |
| 01:15.24 | ibot | i heard blast007 is very insane |
| 01:15.27 | shorty114 | there we go :) |
| 01:15.29 | blast007 | hehe |
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| 02:07.36 | tea|tree | gnite |
| 02:08.20 | shorty114 | good night |
| 02:08.28 | Tegan | night tea|tree |
| 02:08.36 | Aribeth | woohoo water |
| 02:10.58 | shorty114 | lol Aribeth |
| 02:11.07 | shorty114 | totally random :P |
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| 02:22.48 | shorty114 | wb, gvdm |
| 02:23.36 | gvdm | wb? |
| 02:23.44 | shorty114 | Welcome Back |
| 02:24.50 | gvdm | right |
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| 02:32.45 | lan56 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BZFlag <- on the road to Wikipedia's "Featured article of the day" |
| 02:33.31 | Aribeth | ~trepan++ |
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| 02:34.18 | Tegan | ibot, what is the plural of 1 seconds? |
| 02:34.20 | ibot | Tegan: what are you talking about? |
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| 02:51.07 | Silver[a] | What does ECONNRESET/EPIPE mean? |
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| 02:52.49 | DTRemenak | Silver[a]: basically it means the connection was reset |
| 02:53.31 | Silver[a] | DTRemenak, I've got a problem (on hepcat.tybox.net:5155) where folks connect, and then get booted with a "server unexpectedly quit" message. |
| 02:53.42 | DTRemenak | consistently? |
| 02:53.50 | JBdiGriz | It's consistent for me |
| 02:53.55 | Silver[a] | not sure yet. I've had many reports though. |
| 02:54.06 | Silver[a] | haven't had any reports of someone connecting normally yet though. |
| 02:54.51 | JBdiGriz | I wouldn't expect many people to report that |
| 02:54.52 | Silver[a] | server is restarting it looks like. |
| 02:56.16 | JBdiGriz | Apparently I can join, if I change my nick |
| 02:56.24 | Silver[a] | if you'd like to see the log: http://hepcat.tybox.net/pillbox2.txt |
| 02:56.28 | JBdiGriz | Something is happening with registration |
| 02:56.43 | Silver[a] | JBdiGriz, interesting... Something to do with admins then, because other reports seem to be from other admins. |
| 02:57.12 | JBdiGriz | Nobody else is there, I wonder if it affects all registered users |
| 02:58.17 | Silver[a] | well, the server just died (and restarted due to daemontools), so I'd say yes. |
| 02:59.11 | JBdiGriz | a local registration just came in, so that appears to be working |
| 03:00.19 | Gniarf | (oh, thanks for the hepcat server) |
| 03:01.50 | Silver[a] | Gniarf, what? |
| 03:02.13 | Gniarf | I just say "thank you" :) |
| 03:02.46 | Silver[a] | oh, you bet. ;) |
| 03:05.25 | lan56 | how come bzflag robots can't just put themselves on autopilot as a way to act smarter, since autopilot is extremeley intelligent compared to robots? |
| 03:06.03 | blast007 | lan56: the robot AI is seperate from autopilot |
| 03:06.46 | blast007 | it would be possible to make them share it, it just wouldn't be the easiest |
| 03:07.12 | blast007 | plus, it would be better to make a seperate application for the bots, so you don't have to run a client |
| 03:07.26 | Silver[a] | Take a look again: http://hepcat.tybox.net/pillbox2.txt What is with all the uread errors, what causes that?!? |
| 03:07.26 | lan56 | I know there separate, but I mean putting robots in a world with -solo like normal, but then putting them in autopilot, as if a human were to press '9' |
| 03:07.39 | lan56 | or is that what you meant? |
| 03:08.08 | blast007 | the current bot code doesn't even have a function to make them jump |
| 03:08.49 | lan56 | ahh, I see what you mean now, had to think for a sec |
| 03:13.22 | trepan | Silver[a]: how many -d's do you run with? |
| 03:13.35 | Silver[a] | just changed it to 4 and restarted. |
| 03:13.43 | Silver[a] | before it was 2, and I was getting the uread errors too. |
| 03:13.55 | trepan | i didn't see in uread errors in that link |
| 03:14.34 | Silver[a] | hold on, let me refresh it. |
| 03:15.03 | Silver[a] | there. |
| 03:15.08 | xim | i've seen a bug where you're not get killed by gm if somewhat close |
| 03:15.13 | trepan | oh ya, lots of em |
| 03:15.19 | trepan | xim: it's not a bug |
| 03:15.25 | *** join/#bzflag RPG (~knoppix@c-24-15-87-171.client.comcast.net) |
| 03:15.29 | trepan | xim: it's controlled by _gmActivationTime |
| 03:15.34 | xim | it's a feature? |
| 03:15.41 | Silver[a] | no, its a setting. |
| 03:15.45 | xim | lol |
| 03:16.01 | trepan | ya, it's a feature |
| 03:16.05 | Silver[a] | if the server admin changes the setting to activate sooner, you will be killed if you're close. |
| 03:16.30 | Silver[a] | download the .deb and do dpkg -i bzflag.deb (or whatever) |
| 03:16.44 | RPG | ok |
| 03:16.51 | Silver[a] | that will install the binaries, from there, rtfm to get the bzfs running. |
| 03:17.01 | Silver[a] | you know where to get the .deb? |
| 03:17.08 | xim | well, there was a tank distance between both players |
| 03:17.18 | Silver[a] | trepan, what do you think? |
| 03:17.30 | Silver[a] | what does the uread() thing mean generally? |
| 03:17.41 | RPG | no i dont |
| 03:17.43 | trepan | d |
| 03:17.44 | RPG | no deb |
| 03:17.49 | xim | and i killed myself with gm anyway |
| 03:17.51 | RPG | wheres the deb? |
| 03:18.03 | xim | rpg, running stable? |
| 03:18.08 | RPG | yes |
| 03:18.30 | Silver[a] | RPG: http://my.bzflag.org/builds/ |
| 03:18.47 | Silver[a] | xim, knoppix is testing I believe. |
| 03:18.52 | Silver[a] | (sarge) |
| 03:18.54 | trepan | Silver[a]: cvs version? 2.0.0? |
| 03:19.28 | trepan | ah, 2.0.0 |
| 03:19.29 | Silver[a] | its the binary from the builds. |
| 03:19.32 | Silver[a] | 2.0.0 |
| 03:20.33 | Silver[a] | trepan, take a look here: http://bzflag.hepcat.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=239 |
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| 03:20.57 | trepan | Silver[a]: i don't know if updating to the cvs version would help or not |
| 03:21.03 | Silver[a] | and another one here: http://bzflag.hepcat.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=238 sounds similar to what you said. |
| 03:21.22 | trepan | but i can't really get into debugging that stuff tonight |
| 03:21.23 | Silver[a] | trepan, I can do that, but thought it'd be nice to know why it was happening too. |
| 03:22.15 | RPG | hey what does this mean? dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege |
| 03:22.27 | Silver[a] | it means you're not root. |
| 03:22.34 | RPG | oh... you gotta be root |
| 03:22.38 | Silver[a] | you must run su first |
| 03:23.06 | RPG | can't i do this on ramdisk? dpkg: unable to access dpkg status area: Read-only file system |
| 03:23.13 | RPG | my hard drives are NTFS |
| 03:23.27 | RPG | i just wanna leave this thing on till the power goes out hosting a server |
| 03:23.38 | Silver[a] | RPG, I think so, but you have to tell dpkg where to put stuff. not sure how. man dpkg |
| 03:23.38 | RPG | the inexpensive way |
| 03:25.59 | RPG | :sigh: i'll go get a FAT32 drive |
| 03:26.47 | Silver[a] | or partition it and put in an ext3 partition. |
| 03:27.02 | Silver[a] | or usb flash drive would work nicely too. |
| 03:28.06 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/tools/Makefile.am: readd phony directory targets |
| 03:32.57 | ndim | A really nice API for writing robots would be nice. Then we could start a bzflag bot league :) |
| 03:33.34 | Silver[a] | ndim, you go ahead. have fun. |
| 03:33.39 | Silver[a] | ack! |
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| 03:34.56 | Silver[a] | didn't there used to be an INSTALL file in the cvs root? |
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| 03:36.57 | a_monkey | /join #bob |
| 03:37.10 | a_monkey | /you suck |
| 03:37.15 | a_monkey | /you suck |
| 03:37.25 | Pizbit | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.30 | blast007 | lol |
| 03:37.43 | a_monkey | hmm |
| 03:37.47 | a_monkey | that's weird |
| 03:37.47 | Silver[a] | a_monkey has been acting strange. |
| 03:37.59 | a_monkey | heh |
| 03:38.02 | a_monkey | doing a test |
| 03:38.06 | a_monkey | that failed |
| 03:38.08 | a_monkey | :) |
| 03:38.09 | Silver[a] | maybe you should try that in #test |
| 03:38.50 | a_monkey | ahh |
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| 05:46.40 | bz20help | anyone help with new bz ? |
| 05:47.21 | bz20help | anyone here? |
| 05:47.25 | wegstar_ | i am |
| 05:47.33 | wegstar_ | what do you need help on? |
| 05:47.59 | bz20help | downloaded 2.0 but won't work... get a black screen with some tags on the right, but system locks up and have to reboot each time. |
| 05:48.19 | wegstar_ | hmm... are you using windows? |
| 05:48.19 | bz20help | Does 1.10 have to be uninstalled first? |
| 05:48.24 | wegstar_ | no.. |
| 05:48.26 | bz20help | ya... WIN98SE |
| 05:48.49 | bz20help | There were so many versions, i hope i got the right one.... |
| 05:48.53 | bz20help | lemme go check.... |
| 05:48.56 | wegstar_ | Got the latest drivers for your video card? |
| 05:48.57 | wegstar_ | yes it is |
| 05:49.02 | blast007 | might need to delete your configuration file, but you shouldn't have to delete your 1.10 install |
| 05:49.15 | bz20help | config file?? |
| 05:49.36 | blast007 | in "my documents" you should see a folder named "My BZFlag Files" |
| 05:49.43 | bz20help | oh yah.. ok |
| 05:49.51 | bz20help | that WHOLE file has to go? |
| 05:50.00 | blast007 | yeah |
| 05:50.25 | blast007 | I think if you just delete the 2.0 folder inside, it will re-convert it from the 1.10 again, and cause the same issue |
| 05:50.44 | bz20help | k, cuz i have 3 files in there... "2.0", "cache", and "bzflag19.bzc". |
| 05:51.14 | bz20help | whatcha think? |
| 05:51.14 | blast007 | try deleting the 2.0, and see if that fixes it |
| 05:51.25 | blast007 | if not, try deleting 2.0 and bzflag19.bzc |
| 05:51.28 | bz20help | the FILE 2.0 within myDOCS? |
| 05:51.38 | bz20help | Ok.tx. |
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| 06:09.01 | wegstar | owwie |
| 06:09.19 | JeffM2501 | not in the server itself SportChick |
| 06:09.30 | JeffM2501 | you'd need a bzadmin or other client to make the set calls |
| 06:09.59 | SportChick | JeffM2501: so if I /set _rainType in bzadmin, I can do it for a timed period? |
| 06:10.10 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 06:10.13 | JeffM2501 | it's just a set |
| 06:10.27 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to script bzadmin to make 2 calls |
| 06:10.31 | JeffM2501 | a /set for on |
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| 06:10.34 | JeffM2501 | and a /set for off |
| 06:10.36 | SportChick | oh, I see |
| 06:10.45 | JeffM2501 | or do it externaly |
| 06:10.50 | SportChick | thanks |
| 06:10.57 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 06:11.13 | JeffM2501 | wow he signed on just to let us know he' was sleeping |
| 06:11.15 | JeffM2501 | how kind |
| 06:11.20 | SportChick | heheh |
| 06:11.33 | a_monkey_ZzZz | night |
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| 06:12.35 | JeffM2501 | cold makes swelling go down right? |
| 06:12.51 | creeperz | yeah |
| 06:13.02 | JeffM2501 | yay |
| 06:13.23 | JeffM2501 | then maybe I can see if my knee has all the same parts it had this AM |
| 06:13.36 | creeperz | JeffM2501: what happened? |
| 06:13.41 | JeffM2501 | pop |
| 06:13.42 | JeffM2501 | snap |
| 06:13.43 | JeffM2501 | fall |
| 06:13.47 | JeffM2501 | scream |
| 06:13.50 | JeffM2501 | gimp |
| 06:13.53 | JeffM2501 | in that order |
| 06:13.57 | blast007 | :( |
| 06:13.58 | creeperz | wow |
| 06:14.07 | creeperz | umm, popped your knee? |
| 06:14.09 | creeperz | broke your leg |
| 06:14.13 | JeffM2501 | something poped |
| 06:14.16 | creeperz | fell down |
| 06:14.16 | JeffM2501 | dono what it was |
| 06:14.18 | JeffM2501 | I heard it |
| 06:14.21 | JeffM2501 | so did those around me |
| 06:14.23 | creeperz | screammed like a lil girl |
| 06:14.27 | creeperz | gimped away |
| 06:14.28 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 06:14.28 | creeperz | got it |
| 06:14.34 | JeffM2501 | had to stifle obsentiys |
| 06:14.39 | JeffM2501 | was around church goers |
| 06:14.45 | creeperz | ah |
| 06:15.07 | JeffM2501 | doctor on monday to see if my ATL is still in one piece |
| 06:15.29 | creeperz | did you fall from a platform or something? |
| 06:15.32 | creeperz | or just fell down? |
| 06:15.49 | JeffM2501 | my right knee has been acting up all week |
| 06:15.59 | JeffM2501 | but then I tried to climb a wall with it by accedent |
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| 06:16.03 | JeffM2501 | it did not hold |
| 06:16.10 | JeffM2501 | then I fell about 6 feet into dirt |
| 06:16.15 | creeperz | why were you climbing a wall? |
| 06:16.26 | JeffM2501 | to see what was on the other side |
| 06:16.36 | creeperz | ... |
| 06:16.48 | creeperz | what was on the other side? |
| 06:16.49 | JeffM2501 | we had to know, to know if we should over a hole in the wall |
| 06:16.52 | JeffM2501 | the wash |
| 06:16.55 | JeffM2501 | then the train tracks |
| 06:16.59 | JeffM2501 | then a stree |
| 06:17.01 | JeffM2501 | street |
| 06:17.17 | creeperz | wow |
| 06:17.17 | JeffM2501 | there is a place a child could get tru so we had to see what was on the other side |
| 06:17.31 | creeperz | find a child? |
| 06:17.38 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 06:17.43 | creeperz | oh |
| 06:17.43 | JeffM2501 | my friend just moved |
| 06:17.45 | JeffM2501 | he has a child |
| 06:17.49 | creeperz | better luck next time |
| 06:17.51 | JeffM2501 | and a drain in that wall |
| 06:17.51 | creeperz | ohh |
| 06:21.08 | SportChick | Jeff, yes, put ice on it - ice for 15 minutes and then take it off. put it back on 15 minutes later. keep it elevated. stay off it. take ibuprophen - 1000 mil/3xday and it should help reduce the swelling |
| 06:21.48 | creeperz | ibuprophen... i have some great stories about that... |
| 06:21.59 | JeffM2501 | it's iced now |
| 06:22.15 | creeperz | isssssseddddd |
| 06:22.18 | JeffM2501 | and resting on a PC |
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| 06:22.31 | SportChick | howd you do it? |
| 06:22.31 | JeffM2501 | cus if I rest it on the mac, the mac will break :) |
| 06:22.36 | creeperz | the only way to rest a leg, huh? |
| 06:23.00 | JeffM2501 | umm no, just what's under the desk right now |
| 06:24.33 | wegstar | nite all |
| 06:24.44 | JeffM2501 | I had never experienced a pain like I did today |
| 06:25.01 | creeperz | yeah |
| 06:25.03 | creeperz | same here |
| 06:25.10 | creeperz | mine was more emotional though |
| 06:25.18 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure it was |
| 06:25.34 | creeperz | thanks for the stereotype |
| 06:25.54 | JeffM2501 | well that's all you ever discribe to us, so it's just a default guess :) |
| 06:26.13 | creeperz | yeah |
| 06:26.31 | creeperz | well, all i can say is that im glad that i have access to antidepressants |
| 06:26.44 | creeperz | or else life would be alot darker :-) |
| 06:27.01 | JeffM2501 | life is what you chose to make it |
| 06:27.05 | JeffM2501 | lets just take it |
| 06:27.10 | JeffM2501 | let us be free |
| 06:27.18 | JeffM2501 | we can find the courage we all dream of |
| 06:27.43 | creeperz | thats good |
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| 06:28.50 | JeffM2501 | naw, I 'm just in too much pain to work on a new test app |
| 06:29.01 | creeperz | hmm |
| 06:29.05 | creeperz | Project Mayhem 2.0 |
| 06:29.11 | JeffM2501 | umm no |
| 06:29.17 | creeperz | "Losign all hope is freedom..." |
| 06:29.27 | JeffM2501 | network latency and timing test 1.0 |
| 06:29.40 | creeperz | ... |
| 06:29.54 | creeperz | nah, i think i like Project Mayhem 2.0 better |
| 06:29.55 | JeffM2501 | you asked |
| 06:30.01 | JeffM2501 | then code it on up :) |
| 06:30.06 | Pizbit | JeffM2501: 'ping'?:) |
| 06:30.15 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 06:30.20 | creeperz | echo "NO!"; |
| 06:30.23 | Pizbit | heh |
| 06:30.25 | creeperz | //end of program |
| 06:30.27 | Pizbit | 'network latency' |
| 06:30.32 | JeffM2501 | no no |
| 06:30.37 | JeffM2501 | UDP |
| 06:30.46 | JeffM2501 | game state stuff |
| 06:30.51 | JeffM2501 | with a server synced time |
| 06:31.56 | creeperz | JeffM2501: what did you ever do with your bike? |
| 06:32.09 | JeffM2501 | what one? |
| 06:32.13 | JeffM2501 | the motorcycle? |
| 06:32.17 | creeperz | yeah |
| 06:32.24 | JeffM2501 | it's in the garage |
| 06:32.27 | creeperz | no, your X Gamed >< |
| 06:32.38 | creeperz | ah |
| 06:32.51 | JeffM2501 | well I have a moutan bike too |
| 06:32.54 | JeffM2501 | didn't know what you meant |
| 06:32.59 | creeperz | ah |
| 06:33.14 | creeperz | ive been so sick |
| 06:33.30 | creeperz | i tried to lift my BMX up and set it on my porch |
| 06:33.36 | creeperz | i couldnt hardly lift it |
| 06:33.48 | creeperz | then today i practically threw it on the porch |
| 06:33.51 | creeperz | felt so good today |
| 06:34.09 | creeperz | well, better than normal |
| 06:34.41 | creeperz | JeffM2501: what episode of bebop has Teddy Bomber dude in it? |
| 06:34.49 | JeffM2501 | I don't recall |
| 06:34.54 | JeffM2501 | use the power of the internet |
| 06:35.00 | creeperz | yup |
| 06:35.06 | creeperz | doing so :-) |
| 06:35.13 | creeperz | thats why i asked j00 :-P |
| 06:35.20 | JeffM2501 | google |
| 06:35.37 | creeperz | oh |
| 06:35.38 | creeperz | sorry |
| 06:40.13 | sgk284 | haha thats a quote and a half |
| 06:40.42 | sgk284 | "use the power of the internet", Answer: "thats why i asked j00 :-P" |
| 06:41.02 | creeperz | ha |
| 06:41.08 | JeffM2501 | sounds bash.org worthy |
| 06:41.14 | sgk284 | yea |
| 06:42.14 | creeperz | sgk284: you submitting it? |
| 06:42.20 | sgk284 | sure why not |
| 06:42.28 | creeperz | cuz if yu do, its like $10 |
| 06:42.33 | creeperz | cuz its copywrited... |
| 06:42.37 | creeperz | sooo, uhh |
| 06:42.41 | creeperz | when yu can |
| 06:42.44 | sgk284 | from "i don't recall" to "is in no mood" |
| 06:42.54 | JeffM2501 | depends where he cuts :) |
| 06:42.57 | sgk284 | lol |
| 06:43.02 | creeperz | heh |
| 06:43.05 | sgk284 | its fair use! lol |
| 06:43.26 | sgk284 | tim riker has a copy of in the logs and google indexes them so go sue google for copying your copryrighted material |
| 06:43.43 | creeperz | youre right! |
| 06:43.44 | sgk284 | well wait like 24 hours :) |
| 06:43.47 | creeperz | copyright, that is |
| 06:43.49 | creeperz | buhahahha |
| 06:44.11 | sgk284 | ~fishslap creeperz |
| 06:44.13 | ibot | ACTION slaps creeperz up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 06:44.19 | Noodleman | weeee, voltaire! |
| 06:44.19 | creeperz | ... |
| 06:44.21 | creeperz | eww |
| 06:44.24 | Noodleman | voltaire > you |
| 06:44.40 | creeperz | j00! > you |
| 06:44.46 | Noodleman | voltaire > j00! |
| 06:44.55 | JeffM2501 | wow, reverting back to muchkin status creeperz? |
| 06:44.59 | sgk284 | http://bash.org/?472294 |
| 06:45.04 | creeperz | no |
| 06:45.10 | JeffM2501 | sure sounds like it |
| 06:45.16 | creeperz | well sorry |
| 06:45.17 | Noodleman | munchk1nz r0x0r |
| 06:45.30 | JeffM2501 | yes they usualy think they do |
| 06:45.37 | sgk284 | lol |
| 06:45.45 | Noodleman | it's pending moderation |
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| 06:45.55 | creeperz | Noodleman: no poop |
| 06:45.57 | creeperz | :-) |
| 06:46.03 | Noodleman | no crapola? |
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| 06:46.11 | creeperz | roger that |
| 06:46.18 | Noodleman | copy |
| 06:46.26 | creeperz | alpha beta mustard |
| 06:46.46 | Noodleman | sounds like a really messed up fraternity |
| 06:46.53 | creeperz | yeah |
| 06:46.54 | blast007 | hehe |
| 06:46.55 | sgk284 | heh poop is a palindrome |
| 06:47.04 | sgk284 | no matter how you look at poop its still poop |
| 06:47.06 | Noodleman | sgk284: no kidding |
| 06:47.13 | MeBigFatGuy | our tax dollars at work |
| 06:47.18 | sgk284 | haha! |
| 06:47.26 | creeperz | wow |
| 06:47.27 | Noodleman | MeBigFatGuy: not me, i was h0m5k00ld |
| 06:47.33 | creeperz | another bash.org worthy one :-) |
| 06:47.37 | MeBigFatGuy | poor mother |
| 06:47.39 | sgk284 | lol |
| 06:47.43 | creeperz | homschooled? |
| 06:47.51 | Noodleman | homeschooled, yes |
| 06:47.51 | creeperz | with homsar? |
| 06:48.10 | Noodleman | yeah, he's my brother, but i've never been willing to admit it until now |
| 06:48.16 | creeperz | in j00r homcave? |
| 06:48.37 | creeperz | in homvania? |
| 06:48.42 | Noodleman | yesh |
| 06:48.50 | creeperz | with the hommidgets |
| 06:49.10 | creeperz | running around like rabid old people? |
| 06:49.35 | Noodleman | rabid old people are fun to poke with a stick |
| 06:49.42 | creeperz | yeah |
| 06:49.45 | Aribeth | ow |
| 06:49.54 | Noodleman | Aribeth: are you a rabid old people? |
| 06:50.02 | creeperz | specially when the nurse aid gives them too much medication |
| 06:50.07 | creeperz | and the start to twitch |
| 06:50.14 | Aribeth | im not rabiid, but i am old |
| 06:50.27 | creeperz | are you cool? |
| 06:50.37 | Aribeth | the coolest |
| 06:50.42 | creeperz | ... |
| 06:50.50 | Noodleman | old people are cool |
| 06:50.51 | Aribeth | :) |
| 06:51.00 | Aribeth | im 51 |
| 06:51.00 | Noodleman | rabid old people are fun to poke with a stick |
| 06:51.06 | Noodleman | 51 isn't old |
| 06:51.12 | creeperz | yeah |
| 06:51.15 | Aribeth | it is to me |
| 06:51.17 | creeperz | you still have another 10 years or so! |
| 06:51.23 | Noodleman | creeperz: hahahaha |
| 06:51.31 | Aribeth | its not the years. its the millage |
| 06:51.46 | Aribeth | dont remind me |
| 06:51.57 | Aribeth | theys is a creapin up on me |
| 06:51.58 | creeperz | i guess with all that poking youre down to 9 |
| 06:51.59 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by purple_cow |
| 06:52.03 | creeperz | maybe 8 |
| 06:52.10 | Noodleman | uh oh |
| 06:52.10 | JeffM2501 | scorch be nice |
| 06:52.18 | JeffM2501 | soryr creeperz be nice |
| 06:52.25 | JeffM2501 | you remind a lot of scorch at this time |
| 06:52.28 | creeperz | ok |
| 06:52.57 | creeperz | ok |
| 06:53.01 | Aribeth | old folk are cool |
| 06:53.16 | Noodleman | there's a lot that can be learned from old folk |
| 06:53.23 | creeperz | yeah |
| 06:53.26 | creeperz | like driving |
| 06:53.26 | Aribeth | yep |
| 06:53.40 | creeperz | if you like people giving you the bird, that is |
| 06:53.44 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 06:53.45 | creeperz | j/k :-) |
| 06:54.18 | Aribeth | i have a 33 year old intern at work. He couldnt find a nic port on a latop. i pointed it out in 1 second |
| 06:54.39 | creeperz | slap him and make him wear a dress |
| 06:54.44 | JeffM2501 | youngins these days are retarded. |
| 06:54.48 | Aribeth | and he has a lot of experiance |
| 06:55.08 | Noodleman | youngins have always been retarded |
| 06:55.14 | creeperz | yup |
| 06:55.19 | JeffM2501 | I think more so this gen |
| 06:55.21 | creeperz | til they grow older and make more retards |
| 06:55.26 | Aribeth | aint it the truth |
| 06:55.29 | Noodleman | people say the cleavers from leave it to beaver are the perfect family, right? |
| 06:55.41 | JeffM2501 | no they are sheep |
| 06:55.44 | Noodleman | but look at how retarded those kids are |
| 06:55.46 | creeperz | whats the difference between a bag full of dead babies and a corvette? |
| 06:55.53 | JeffM2501 | dude REALY |
| 06:55.58 | JeffM2501 | bye bye |
| 06:55.58 | Noodleman | creeperz: don't say that joke in here |
| 06:56.04 | creeperz | j/k! |
| 06:56.08 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*creeperz@*.midco.net] by JeffM2501 |
| 06:56.09 | Noodleman | it's funny, but not for general consumption :-) |
| 06:56.13 | *** kick/#bzflag [creeperz!~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
| 06:56.54 | Noodleman | he had it coming :-P |
| 06:57.06 | JeffM2501 | he's a drama queen |
| 06:57.13 | Noodleman | indeed |
| 06:57.24 | Aribeth | sounds like it |
| 06:57.54 | Noodleman | a drama queen that wears jockey shorts and stands up to pee |
| 06:58.00 | Noodleman | sorry, that was completely random |
| 06:58.27 | JeffM2501 | queens come in all shapes and sizes |
| 06:58.40 | Aribeth | the cause was more than sufficient |
| 07:05.09 | JeffM2501 | ohh Ice pack.. you are my only friend |
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| 07:08.11 | Aribeth | jeffM2501, what happened? |
| 07:08.22 | JeffM2501 | knee |
| 07:08.37 | Aribeth | banged it up? |
| 07:08.39 | JeffM2501 | ether a bad sprain/strain, or something is torn |
| 07:08.46 | Aribeth | ouch |
| 07:08.58 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 07:09.05 | JeffM2501 | haven't ever felt a pain like it before |
| 07:09.09 | JeffM2501 | cant' put any weight on it |
| 07:09.12 | Aribeth | i know the feeling. i have a bad knee |
| 07:09.21 | JeffM2501 | but can bend it ok, just very very slowly |
| 07:10.02 | Aribeth | torn cartiledge? |
| 07:10.23 | JeffM2501 | no clue |
| 07:10.31 | JeffM2501 | calling doctors on monday to make an apt and see |
| 07:10.41 | Aribeth | good |
| 07:11.31 | JeffM2501 | well after I find out who my doctor is |
| 07:11.42 | SportChick | you going to an orthopedist? |
| 07:11.50 | JeffM2501 | have to go to a general first |
| 07:11.53 | JeffM2501 | then get a referal |
| 07:11.55 | SportChick | lame |
| 07:11.56 | JeffM2501 | HMO |
| 07:11.58 | SportChick | but typical |
| 07:12.28 | JeffM2501 | my old general went belly up |
| 07:12.28 | JeffM2501 | so I have to find out who my new ones are. |
| 07:12.28 | Aribeth | i have aetna ppo |
| 07:12.43 | JeffM2501 | general should get me at least a gimp stick if I need one :) |
| 07:13.18 | JeffM2501 | I felt so old today when one of the bagers at the store today asked if I wanted one of those electric carts |
| 07:13.25 | JeffM2501 | sadly I should have said yes |
| 07:13.44 | Aribeth | how old are you jeff? |
| 07:13.47 | JeffM2501 | 32 |
| 07:14.04 | Aribeth | your still young |
| 07:14.06 | JeffM2501 | not horibly old, but not 15 |
| 07:14.18 | JeffM2501 | there are just things I can't do anymore :) |
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| 07:14.31 | Aribeth | yep. been ther done that |
| 07:14.48 | Aribeth | there are a lot of things i cant do any more |
| 07:15.40 | JeffM2501 | oddly I kinda knew something like this would happen today |
| 07:16.03 | JeffM2501 | it's be sore for week ( while helping my friend paint his new house ), so I've been favoring it |
| 07:16.11 | JeffM2501 | and I just led with the wrong leg |
| 07:17.16 | Aribeth | i hurt my knee years ago by sitting down |
| 07:17.45 | Aribeth | my knee connected with the handle of an old radio |
| 07:17.55 | JeffM2501 | ouch |
| 07:18.01 | JeffM2501 | yeah stuff under the cap hurts |
| 07:18.01 | Aribeth | and the radio and chair didnt move |
| 07:18.19 | Aribeth | that is exatly what happened |
| 07:18.26 | JeffM2501 | that with the most mass wins :) |
| 07:18.41 | Aribeth | yup |
| 07:19.26 | Aribeth | my knee did move and i was in tears rolling on the flor |
| 07:19.28 | JeffM2501 | I fell about 6 feet into dirt |
| 07:19.30 | JeffM2501 | and didn't get up |
| 07:19.36 | JeffM2501 | for a good while |
| 07:19.58 | Aribeth | if i bump it i have to work it right away or it will stiffen up |
| 07:20.09 | Aribeth | ouch. thats not good |
| 07:20.38 | Aribeth | did you see a doc right after? |
| 07:20.43 | JeffM2501 | nop |
| 07:20.45 | JeffM2501 | Ice |
| 07:20.50 | JeffM2501 | can't find out about doc till monday |
| 07:20.52 | Aribeth | should have |
| 07:20.55 | JeffM2501 | probably |
| 07:21.02 | JeffM2501 | havent' waked much the rest of the day tho |
| 07:21.03 | Aribeth | ohhh, just happened? |
| 07:21.09 | JeffM2501 | this afternoon |
| 07:21.14 | JeffM2501 | at about 1:00 |
| 07:21.15 | Aribeth | ohhh |
| 07:22.00 | Aribeth | hospital? |
| 07:22.14 | JeffM2501 | don't think it's that bad |
| 07:22.21 | JeffM2501 | will see how it is in the AM |
| 07:22.27 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 07:23.16 | Aribeth | i hope you feel better soon |
| 07:23.25 | JeffM2501 | thanks, as do I |
| 07:23.30 | JeffM2501 | it's not bad at all when siting |
| 07:24.39 | Aribeth | thats good |
| 07:25.08 | Aribeth | alternate the ice every 15 minutes |
| 07:25.28 | JeffM2501 | just got done with 2 hours of that |
| 07:25.30 | Aribeth | thats what im always told at the health unit at NASA |
| 07:26.50 | Noodleman | tea |
| 07:27.15 | Noodleman | mmmmmm |
| 07:28.48 | Noodleman | tea rules |
| 07:29.33 | Aribeth | i prefer coffee, but i cant have it now |
| 07:29.42 | Noodleman | i don't like coffee |
| 07:30.00 | Aribeth | i might have an ulser |
| 07:30.10 | Aribeth | so no coffee |
| 07:32.28 | JeffM2501 | green tea is great |
| 07:33.50 | Noodleman | that it is |
| 07:33.59 | Noodleman | chai is my favorite :-) |
| 07:34.07 | Aribeth | i love green tea, but i cant have it. caffeene |
| 07:35.25 | Noodleman | noyb: haha |
| 07:37.56 | purple_cow | Noodleman: yes, it does |
| 07:38.06 | purple_cow | err |
| 07:38.08 | purple_cow | noyb: |
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| 08:24.58 | jpa_ | morning |
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| 09:56.59 | |zongo| | ~bzflist |
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| 12:30.02 | LarkSPur | I have a question. |
| 12:30.10 | LarkSPur | Some people can't join to our server. Is anyone else know why? |
| 12:31.36 | cods | many possible reason.. First obvious one: there is no ban entries that prevent them to connect ? |
| 12:31.46 | cods | (like a subnet, or a host ban entry) |
| 12:32.20 | LarkSPur | oh, I haven't any ban lists. |
| 12:32.37 | cods | They have an error when they can't connect ? |
| 12:33.03 | cods | the server is public ? |
| 12:33.12 | LarkSPur | they disconnets as soon as connected. |
| 12:33.24 | LarkSPur | yes, some user can join. |
| 12:33.38 | cods | ah.. maybe it's related to global login |
| 12:33.45 | LarkSPur | bzflag.sbz.mydns.jp:5154 |
| 12:33.55 | LarkSPur | global login? |
| 12:34.19 | cods | for 2.0 server though |
| 12:34.54 | cods | Could not connect to bzflag.sbz.mydns.jp:5154. |
| 12:34.58 | cods | server is down actually ? |
| 12:35.07 | LarkSPur | no, it's running. |
| 12:35.09 | cods | or not reachable from internet perhaps ? |
| 12:35.27 | cods | oh |
| 12:35.27 | LarkSPur | ~bzfquery bzflag.sbz.mydns.jp:5154 |
| 12:35.36 | cods | sorry, trying with wrong bzadmin |
| 12:37.07 | LarkSPur | so, can I have solution with this problem? |
| 12:37.30 | LarkSPur | #I'm Japanese, sorry for poor language. |
| 12:38.14 | cods | bah, mine is worst |
| 12:38.17 | cods | hmm |
| 12:38.28 | LarkSPur | ibot is ok? |
| 12:39.16 | Tupone | LarkSPur: did you put -userdb or -groupdb ? |
| 12:39.16 | cods | I'm loggued, but I'm marked as Dead, and can't join the game. |
| 12:39.16 | LarkSPur | yes, both. |
| 12:39.16 | Tupone | have you tried without? |
| 12:39.26 | Tupone | just to know if it is permission |
| 12:39.26 | LarkSPur | ah, no. |
| 12:40.14 | LarkSPur | ah, yes, I setting the groupperm. |
| 12:40.23 | cods | anyway there is something wrong (unless I'm missing something) because I can't enter the game |
| 12:40.45 | cods | right click or 'I' do nothing |
| 12:42.04 | LarkSPur | k, I'm going to try remove/take another permission files. |
| 12:43.50 | LarkSPur | I did. |
| 12:44.09 | LarkSPur | hmm. |
| 12:44.16 | LarkSPur | can't? |
| 12:44.19 | Tupone | happen the same? |
| 12:44.28 | LarkSPur | it logged as same. |
| 12:44.37 | cods | but you don't restarted the server, isn't ? You issued /reload maybe ? |
| 12:45.39 | LarkSPur | I did it too. |
| 12:46.11 | LarkSPur | oh, thx. |
| 12:46.24 | cods | hmm |
| 12:47.08 | cods | ok this is probably something I'm not aware.. but I can't join. Is that because there is actually 4 players in the game ? I'm here a red player, and can't enter. |
| 12:47.56 | cods | just before, when only 3 players (including me) were listed, I was able to enter the game. |
| 12:48.15 | LarkSPur | hmm |
| 12:48.37 | cods | and trying to write a message stop my client.. |
| 12:48.44 | cods | trying to switch to autopilot too |
| 12:49.27 | cods | well for autopilot I guess it's a server settings |
| 12:49.45 | Tupone | are you inside a natted area? |
| 12:50.35 | LarkSPur | no. |
| 12:50.49 | Tupone | perhaps you didn't accept udp to 5154? |
| 12:51.17 | LarkSPur | I think it maybe number of player |
| 12:51.37 | Tupone | :/ I'd get a server is full |
| 12:51.38 | LarkSPur | Is it required to require UDP network? |
| 12:52.56 | Tupone | better that udp is opened, We do not tested without, and I personally don't know if it work |
| 12:53.09 | Tupone | afaik |
| 12:53.37 | Tupone | don't need to put -requireudp |
| 12:53.48 | Tupone | just open the firewall to that port |
| 12:54.05 | LarkSPur | It's all opened. |
| 12:54.26 | LarkSPur | ~bzfquery bzflag.sbz.mydns.jp:5154 |
| 12:54.29 | Tupone | does the -d -d -d says something when you jon |
| 12:55.21 | LarkSPur | now can you? |
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| 13:40.26 | S1gn | help. where to put worlds in windoze version of bzflag? |
| 13:40.46 | S1gn | to start bzfs from client |
| 13:45.14 | brlcad | put them in the same directory as your config file |
| 13:45.35 | S1gn | it's not mine... I don't have windows :) |
| 13:45.57 | S1gn | and where is config.... :) |
| 13:46.23 | brlcad | iirc, it's in my documents -> my bzflag files |
| 13:46.59 | S1gn | thanx! |
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| 13:53.49 | jpa_ | actually, it is config dir / worlds afaik |
| 13:58.18 | S1gn | omg... |
| 13:58.43 | S1gn | I'll tel him to save world and to see where it will be :) |
| 14:00.47 | jpa_ | does having bzadmin connected on server consume bandwidth? |
| 14:01.37 | brlcad | saveworld shoves them there, but the startservermenu hunts itself .. might |
| 14:02.12 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 14:02.19 | jpa_ | how logical :) |
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| 14:28.59 | DBlue | i just wanted to say bzflag, great game, (dang addictive too) cya...... |
| 14:36.51 | jpa_ | cods? |
| 14:36.56 | cods | yes? |
| 14:37.02 | jpa_ | why am i getting NameError: name 'True' is not defined |
| 14:37.18 | cods | wow.. very very very old python maybe.. ? :) |
| 14:37.21 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 14:37.42 | cods | pre-2.0 ? |
| 14:37.43 | jpa_ | Python 2.1.3 |
| 14:37.45 | cods | hmm |
| 14:37.56 | cods | can you show me the context ? (in private) |
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| 15:04.00 | t-s | does anybody knows where in code a tank is being killed by GM? |
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| 15:15.36 | rufitos | Hi |
| 15:16.34 | rufitos | im trying to make setup a test server, but i have only one question |
| 15:17.20 | rufitos | how can i setup, with the mirror ice, the "momentum" movement? |
| 15:17.47 | rufitos | so the tank feels like sliding |
| 15:19.54 | jpa_ | it is -set _friction 0.5 or so |
| 15:20.13 | rufitos | ah okies, gonna try it |
| 15:20.18 | wizart | sounds fun! |
| 15:20.51 | wizart | we will have a few new moves then :) |
| 15:21.45 | rufitos | yeah thats it jpa_ |
| 15:21.47 | rufitos | thx |
| 15:22.06 | jpa_ | np |
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| 15:28.01 | jpa_ | hello Tupone |
| 15:30.05 | Tupone | ciao jpa_ |
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| 15:41.24 | jpa_ | why is it always the players with callsign typed in all caps who start abuse? |
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| 15:52.23 | t-s | Well, who wrote the code? |
| 15:53.34 | jpa_ | hello SportChick |
| 16:00.58 | rufitos | i change _mirror snow, but i see water tracks mark, how can i change to other type of track marks? |
| 16:06.48 | t-s | Is the player being killed at /bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx on lines 506 - 510? |
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| 16:21.54 | brlcad | t-s: who *are* you talking to?? |
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| 16:22.35 | t-s | brlcad: To all...but it seems like I'm ignored :-( |
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| 16:26.58 | brlcad | t-s: ahh, your questions didn't make sense out of context -- might I ask why you're trying to find out where GM kills tank? |
| 16:27.12 | t-s | brlcad: yes |
| 16:27.33 | t-s | brlcad: I want to fix https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=872573&group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
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| 16:30.36 | brlcad | t-s: it can be mitigated by extending the "activation time" that was added before release, but it'll otherwise break protocol |
| 16:31.28 | t-s | brlcad: My idea is to check whether player who blows himself up has GM, then ignoring this event |
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| 16:32.33 | brlcad | there are situations where a GM player can be killed by his own GM |
| 16:32.46 | t-s | brlcad: I need a point who is independent of coordinates so that activation time can be set much lower to be able to shoot tanks with WG landing very near and can't be shot otherwise |
| 16:32.55 | brlcad | fire GM on a high-speed map, for example.. you can run in front of GM and shoot yourself |
| 16:33.54 | t-s | brlcad: I am aware of this issue, that's the bug mentioned. |
| 16:34.26 | brlcad | not really.. the bug mentioned is just driving forward while shooting and you instantly shoot yourself |
| 16:34.54 | brlcad | that death is unexpected, and too quick |
| 16:35.38 | brlcad | more referring to a modified tankSpeed map where you can shoot, and then zoom way ahead of the tank -- i don't think you should be invincible to your own GMs in that situation |
| 16:35.55 | brlcad | GMs aren't supposed to be all powerful |
| 16:36.25 | brlcad | they are pretty powerful already even with a long activation time |
| 16:37.07 | t-s | hmm, but when another tank is near it looks anything but realistic |
| 16:37.49 | brlcad | actually it's quite realistic for missiles -- they take some time to activate for just that reason |
| 16:37.56 | jpa_ | also, on viper map, you can easily kill yourself with gm |
| 16:37.58 | brlcad | the difference is they travel incredibly faster |
| 16:38.03 | jpa_ | being reflected from teleport |
| 16:38.44 | t-s | So it is intentional that you can kill yourself? |
| 16:39.15 | brlcad | t-s: and as for "realistic" .. if a missile impacted a vehicle that close to you, you'd likely be damaged too |
| 16:39.29 | brlcad | intentional that you instantly die .. no |
| 16:39.48 | brlcad | intentional that it's possible to kill yourself .. yes |
| 16:40.24 | brlcad | the bug is when you fire and kill yourself almost immediately |
| 16:40.25 | t-s | I don't like this because then there's no fix for that bug |
| 16:40.42 | brlcad | there is a fix, the bug report talked about a proper fix |
| 16:40.54 | brlcad | that fix breaks protocol though |
| 16:42.07 | brlcad | another workaround fix would be to increase the activation time to the worst lag (like 400-500 ms) |
| 16:43.36 | t-s | What's when a server owner doesn't want that GM can shoot himself? |
| 16:43.53 | jpa_ | just set gm speed higher than tankspeed |
| 16:44.16 | jpa_ | or hmm |
| 16:44.21 | jpa_ | there is no such setting :) |
| 16:44.22 | t-s | That would change playing style |
| 16:44.38 | jpa_ | but there is _gmActivationTime |
| 16:44.44 | jpa_ | that could be set higher |
| 16:45.16 | t-s | The activation time makes GM tanks victims for WG tanks |
| 16:45.37 | brlcad | t-s: no such setting right now, and not likely it would be made default, but make up a patch that's optional and I'll add it |
| 16:46.13 | t-s | I need to know where the tank is killed in code... |
| 16:46.14 | brlcad | if you want to find where gm kills are computed, hunt down GMACTIVATIONTIME |
| 16:46.25 | jpa_ | is activation time for all tanks? |
| 16:46.28 | jpa_ | or just the shooter? |
| 16:46.36 | brlcad | you'd think that has something to do for getting killed by gm's.. |
| 16:46.56 | brlcad | jpa_: it's the activation time of the GM |
| 16:47.01 | jpa_ | ok |
| 16:47.04 | brlcad | so .. all tanks |
| 16:47.55 | jpa_ | btw, why does brlcad always want to extrude that strange form with arc and circle in the middle when i try to extrude? :) |
| 16:48.43 | brlcad | hmm.. what do I do? :) |
| 16:49.12 | brlcad | brl-cad? mged? |
| 16:49.20 | jpa_ | mged, i think |
| 16:49.36 | jpa_ | you know the strange form that appears when you sketch? |
| 16:50.11 | brlcad | yes |
| 16:50.22 | jpa_ | why is it there? :) |
| 16:50.33 | jpa_ | and where does it always come from? :) |
| 16:50.48 | brlcad | it's a default sketch shape to get started with |
| 16:50.57 | brlcad | at the time, that was useful for the folks that needed it |
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| 16:51.16 | jpa_ | ok.. |
| 16:51.19 | brlcad | since it's otherwise not obvious how to edit/create sketches |
| 16:51.32 | jpa_ | and is there any nice way to get rid of it? |
| 16:51.45 | brlcad | sketches themselves are generally discouraged for solid modeling as there are usually better alternatives |
| 16:51.46 | jpa_ | selecting segments and removing is too difficult :) |
| 16:52.05 | xeroc | Who can I create a server with mutlijump (wings-flag) like on secretplace ? |
| 16:52.31 | jpa_ | xeroc: just put +f WG{amount you want} |
| 16:52.48 | xeroc | ok .. thx |
| 16:53.48 | Pimpinella | brlcad: will wget build on MacOS X or is there a source for a binary, that you know of? |
| 16:54.25 | Pimpinella | (sry for asking here, you're just the best informed mac user i know ;) ) |
| 16:54.28 | brlcad | Pimpinella: yes and yes |
| 16:54.50 | xeroc | jpa_: sorry its not working .. i only can jump once with the wingflag |
| 16:54.52 | brlcad | where, I dunno.. i'd have to google |
| 16:56.06 | jpa_ | xeroc: put -set _wingsJumpCount 20 also |
| 16:56.14 | xeroc | ahh .. |
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| 16:59.31 | xeroc | thx jpa_ working well ;) |
| 16:59.39 | jpa_ | hmm.. i'm starting to feel brlcad is not for me :) |
| 16:59.58 | jpa_ | it's like i would have to learn to use bash over again :) |
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| 17:03.48 | t-s_1 | Hmm, my system froze when content searching for that GMACTIVATIONTIME. Can someone kick me (t-s) please? |
| 17:04.09 | jpa_ | humm? |
| 17:04.38 | jpa_ | it will eventually ping timeout |
| 17:05.24 | brlcad | jpa_: mged is klunky -- there's a slick replacement that is under development |
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| 17:05.36 | brlcad | mged != brlcad though |
| 17:05.55 | jpa_ | well, no |
| 17:06.23 | brlcad | ahh, you mean all the commands |
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| 17:06.38 | brlcad | that's also part of the slick replacement ;) |
| 17:06.59 | jpa_ | :P |
| 17:07.20 | jpa_ | sketchup is like three-dimensinal kig, i like it :) |
| 17:07.35 | jpa_ | too bad it is not open source and neither runs under linux |
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| 17:09.16 | amathis | brlcad: whatcha think of this.. http://amathis.net |
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| 17:12.05 | jpa_ | why do i dis-like that fading "web design for the road ahead" text appearing every time i change page? |
| 17:13.01 | brlcad | amathis: I don't believe database is a verb :) |
| 17:13.23 | brlcad | the fade is neat once.. but then it gets old |
| 17:13.35 | brlcad | otherwise looks nice |
| 17:14.47 | jpa_ | oh, those are just place-holder texts? :) |
| 17:14.57 | jpa_ | i was starting to wonder :) |
| 17:16.22 | shorty114 | hmm |
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| 17:19.21 | amathis | brlcad: where do I use database as a verb? |
| 17:19.29 | amathis | on the homepage? |
| 17:19.44 | amathis | brlcad: was it not yesterday I said that I wished I was better at english / writing |
| 17:19.51 | amathis | :P |
| 17:21.27 | brlcad | Databasing |
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| 17:24.25 | brlcad | You can go walking because to walk is a verb, you can go biking because to bike is also a verb .. you can't go couching though or treeing, etc |
| 17:24.45 | menotume | Databasing is a verb - it's just not a word :P |
| 17:25.24 | brlcad | ~dict verb |
| 17:25.39 | brlcad | if it's not a word, then by definition, it's not a verb ;) |
| 17:25.44 | menotume | Computing |
| 17:25.56 | brlcad | to compute is a verb |
| 17:25.56 | menotume | ~dict Computing |
| 17:26.10 | SportChick | hi jpa_ |
| 17:26.27 | menotume | ya - 'to database' is too ambigous |
| 17:26.42 | menotume | i like 'learn computers' |
| 17:27.04 | menotume | what a disgusting phrase that is |
| 17:27.37 | menotume | Hellos Porty - did u get my pm on bzbb by chance? |
| 17:27.50 | menotume | err, Sporty |
| 17:30.30 | menotume | 'learning computers' makes as much sense as 'learning houses' |
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| 17:36.22 | menotume | wow, ibot - that was fast |
| 17:36.25 | shorty114 | lol |
| 17:37.34 | ruskie | lol |
| 17:43.39 | menotume | guu ? |
| 17:43.43 | menotume | ibot ? |
| 17:43.51 | menotume | another bad bot day |
| 17:44.09 | shorty114 | ~hi |
| 17:44.10 | ibot | hello, shorty114 |
| 17:44.14 | shorty114 | ibot's there |
| 17:44.16 | menotume | ohhhhh |
| 17:44.21 | shorty114 | ibot, hi |
| 17:44.21 | ibot | hi, shorty114 |
| 17:44.29 | shorty114 | i don't think ibot responds to ibot ? |
| 17:44.34 | menotume | guess not |
| 17:44.39 | menotume | ibot, ? |
| 17:44.48 | menotume | ibot, pffft |
| 17:44.50 | shorty114 | you need a factoid/comment |
| 17:44.53 | shorty114 | ibot, sup |
| 17:44.54 | ibot | Noodlebot: i'm fine. you? |
| 17:44.59 | shorty114 | o.o |
| 17:45.09 | ruskie | ibot, can you die? |
| 17:45.23 | shorty114 | ~die |
| 17:45.24 | ibot | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 17:45.29 | menotume | ibot, what is shorty114 |
| 17:45.30 | ibot | well, shorty114 is our resident kiddie. |
| 17:45.33 | wizart | he can :) |
| 17:45.35 | ruskie | lol |
| 17:45.48 | shorty114 | lol |
| 17:46.16 | shorty114 | ~menotume |
| 17:46.17 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, menotume is an intellgent, handsome young man |
| 17:46.23 | shorty114 | hahah |
| 17:46.25 | menotume | rofl |
| 17:46.26 | ruskie | lol |
| 17:46.39 | menotume | ibot IS smart |
| 17:46.46 | t-s | interesting bot |
| 17:47.00 | shorty114 | menotume: depends on who you ask... :P |
| 17:47.00 | t-s | ibot, what is t-s |
| 17:47.02 | ibot | I think you lost me on that one, t-s |
| 17:48.04 | t-s | does it depend on who asks? |
| 17:48.17 | menotume | ibot, what is t-s |
| 17:48.18 | ibot | t-s is, like, an unknown entity |
| 17:48.29 | wizart | plus random |
| 17:48.37 | wizart | ~menotume |
| 17:48.38 | ibot | well, menotume is an intellgent, handsome young man |
| 17:48.43 | wizart | or not :/ |
| 17:49.44 | menotume | try again, t-s |
| 17:50.45 | t-s | ibot, what is t-s |
| 17:50.46 | ibot | it has been said that t-s is Thomas's Initials |
| 17:51.02 | shorty114 | ~literal blast007 |
| 17:51.03 | ibot | "blast007" is "very (crazy|insane|wacky)" |
| 17:51.08 | shorty114 | that's how you do random |
| 17:51.11 | shorty114 | ~blast007 |
| 17:51.12 | ibot | it has been said that blast007 is very wacky |
| 17:51.18 | shorty114 | ~blast007 |
| 17:51.19 | ibot | well, blast007 is very insane |
| 17:51.26 | shorty114 | ^^ example proven. |
| 17:51.46 | t-s | menotume: How did that answer changed? |
| 17:51.51 | blast007 | :) |
| 17:51.54 | menotume | magic :) |
| 17:52.36 | t-s | ibot, what is menotume |
| 17:52.37 | ibot | menotume is, like, an intellgent, handsome young man |
| 17:52.49 | t-s | same answer still |
| 17:54.04 | menotume | ~t-s is a wonderful person |
| 17:54.05 | ibot | ...but t-s is already something else... |
| 17:54.16 | menotume | ~t-s is a wonderful person |
| 17:54.17 | ibot | menotume: okay |
| 17:54.21 | menotume | ibot, what is t-s |
| 17:54.22 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, t-s is a wonderful person |
| 17:54.27 | menotume | :) |
| 17:54.50 | menotume | enough bot-abuse - i'm off |
| 17:55.33 | t-s | cya |
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| 18:01.07 | shorty114 | wb, |zongo| |
| 18:01.22 | |zongo| | heya shorty114 :) |
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| 18:22.34 | jpa_ | http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzfs/players-daily.png |
| 18:22.37 | jpa_ | too popular :( |
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| 18:36.41 | shorty114 | jpa_: what server? |
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| 18:39.05 | |zongo| | ocean |
| 18:39.17 | |zongo| | people like to fly ;) |
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| 18:40.34 | jpa_ | shorty114: river & ocean :) |
| 18:40.44 | ShadowRage | I keep getting SDL errors |
| 18:40.52 | shorty114 | lol |
| 18:40.52 | ShadowRage | even though my version is 1.2.7 |
| 18:40.59 | amathis | ShadowRage: what are the errors? |
| 18:41.05 | amathis | ShadowRage: and when do you get them? |
| 18:41.09 | amathis | ShadowRage: what OS are you/ |
| 18:41.16 | ShadowRage | checking for SDL - version >= 1.2.5... no |
| 18:41.18 | ShadowRage | linux |
| 18:41.22 | amathis | ShadowRage: ah |
| 18:41.24 | amathis | ShadowRage: what distro? |
| 18:41.37 | shorty114 | you need libsdl-devel or -dev (either one) |
| 18:41.59 | amathis | sdl-dev |
| 18:42.18 | ShadowRage | mandrake 8.2, but I upgraded part of the os myself. |
| 18:42.34 | amathis | ShadowRage: ah, you should really upgrade to 10.0.. |
| 18:42.34 | ShadowRage | gcc, x, gnome, kde, et cetera |
| 18:42.37 | ShadowRage | from source |
| 18:42.43 | amathis | ShadowRage: but.. just urpmi sdl-dev |
| 18:42.52 | ShadowRage | I dont like mandrake, I'm stuck with it ;) |
| 18:43.04 | amathis | ShadowRage: me neither, but at least 10.0 is better/ |
| 18:43.09 | ShadowRage | I installed a fresh sdl from source and removed the old beforehand |
| 18:43.10 | amathis | ShadowRage: I use gentoo / slackware |
| 18:43.17 | *** part/#bzflag blast007 (~blast@dialup-4.159.8.70.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) |
| 18:43.26 | amathis | ShadowRage: to compile something with SDL, you need dev packages |
| 18:43.27 | jpa_ | ShadowRage: oh, then you should have dev-stuff |
| 18:43.30 | amathis | ShadowRage: sdl-dev |
| 18:43.31 | ShadowRage | and it has been working with other apps just fine |
| 18:43.34 | amathis | really? |
| 18:43.35 | amathis | hmm |
| 18:43.42 | ShadowRage | I have the dev stuff because I installed from SOURCE |
| 18:43.44 | amathis | that is odd. |
| 18:43.44 | jpa_ | try ./configure --with-sdl=/usr/local/ |
| 18:44.03 | jpa_ | and remove config.cache just to be sure |
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| 18:44.09 | ShadowRage | alright |
| 18:44.09 | tea|tree | hola |
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| 18:44.47 | jpa_ | just try gentoo or LFS :) |
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| 18:45.18 | ShadowRage | using lfs as reference |
| 18:45.49 | ShadowRage | I built a semi-working lfs system once |
| 18:45.59 | ShadowRage | it booted once |
| 18:46.10 | jpa_ | :) |
| 18:46.14 | ShadowRage | then I started getting kernel crc errors |
| 18:46.35 | ShadowRage | then I did a new kernel and re-ran lilo, and got even more crap |
| 18:46.59 | ShadowRage | such as it not being able to find device nodes, saying they dont exist at all as files.. yet they do, which sounds like an inode problem |
| 18:50.31 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o brlcad] by ChanServ |
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| 18:59.12 | shorty114 | sup bryjen |
| 18:59.35 | ShadowRage | what's the plus side to using sdl? |
| 18:59.41 | ShadowRage | will it help older machines? |
| 18:59.44 | ShadowRage | CPU: Celeron (Mendocino) @ 434 MHz | Mem usage: 156.3/255.1 mb (61%) | Swap usage: 59.8/339.6 mb (18%) | Disk usage(Maxtor 2B020H1): 10.2/18.9 gb (54%) | Uptime: 3 wks 22 hrs 8 mins 33 secs |
| 18:59.51 | ShadowRage | like my piece of shit? |
| 19:03.52 | shorty114 | w00t |
| 19:03.57 | shorty114 | finished my PHP RSS parser |
| 19:04.05 | shorty114 | upload timem |
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| 19:04.44 | shorty114 | hi JeffM2501 |
| 19:05.24 | jpa_ | hello JeffM2501 |
| 19:07.23 | JeffM2501 | hi |
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| 19:08.19 | t-s_1 | Ping SportChick |
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| 19:13.52 | Grumbler | anyway to change that chanserv message........bit old and out of date by now |
| 19:14.22 | jpa_ | ~dict Grumbler |
| 19:14.43 | shorty114 | yeah |
| 19:14.46 | Grumbler | jpa_< and your point is? |
| 19:14.55 | jpa_ | i just wanted to know :) |
| 19:14.57 | shorty114 | long time since the listserver was down |
| 19:15.04 | jpa_ | sounded like a word |
| 19:15.25 | brlcad | Grumbler: nope, no way to change it. it's stuck like that forever now. ;) |
| 19:16.09 | bryjen | write-only memory ;) |
| 19:16.31 | jpa_ | can't we append "Dismiss the previous message" ? :) |
| 19:18.35 | t-s | When I try to connect to servers I sometimes get a "Server not found!" message and whole screen goes black even if I run BZFlag in windowed mode got the same in 1.10.x. I'm running Mac OS X. Is there a solution to this because it forces me to reboot the machine... |
| 19:19.59 | brlcad | t-s: shouldn't need to reboot.. hit cmd-opt-esc and press enter, then wait 10 seconds |
| 19:20.30 | t-s | brlcad: Nothing does respond after this. This shortcut is useless then |
| 19:21.00 | t-s | but it happens only at certain times and others still play on the server same time |
| 19:21.02 | brlcad | t-s: did you try cmd-opt-esc, enter, wait? |
| 19:21.30 | brlcad | i know everything else freezes up -- this is very specific to abort the game |
| 19:21.33 | t-s | brlcad: Yes, in the past I waited around 10 minutes |
| 19:21.47 | brlcad | AFTER preessing cmd-opt-esc? |
| 19:21.56 | t-s | brlcad: yes |
| 19:23.09 | brlcad | hrm.. |
| 19:25.07 | Birdie | !seen silverfox |
| 19:25.28 | Birdie | !seen SilverFox |
| 19:25.30 | Birdie | hm |
| 19:28.46 | bryjen | guu: hello |
| 19:29.04 | shorty114 | guu guu |
| 19:29.11 | shorty114 | ~seen SilverFox |
| 19:29.12 | ibot | silverfox is currently on #bzflag (13h 17m 23s) |
| 19:29.43 | shorty114 | there ya go, Birdie |
| 19:30.04 | Birdie | thx |
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| 19:30.09 | JeffM2501 | well since guu dosn't do "seen" that would make sense |
| 19:30.31 | shorty114 | lol |
| 19:30.47 | t-s | brlcad: So nothing known? |
| 19:31.02 | bryjen | !seen JeffM2501 |
| 19:31.02 | guu | bryjen: JeffM2501 was last seen here 52 seconds ago saying: <JeffM2501> well since guu dosn't do "seen" that would make sense |
| 19:31.18 | Birdie | lets test again |
| 19:31.24 | Birdie | !seen SilverFox |
| 19:31.24 | guu | Birdie: SilverFox was last seen here 13 hours, 2 minutes, and 51 seconds ago saying: * SilverFox feels warm and fuzzy and realizes he can quit his job and abandon all responsibility. |
| 19:31.26 | Birdie | yay |
| 19:32.38 | shorty114 | JeffM2501: guu does do seen... |
| 19:32.46 | JeffM2501 | fun |
| 19:32.51 | JeffM2501 | she's not suposed to |
| 19:32.56 | shorty114 | heh |
| 19:32.57 | Birdie | oh its a she? |
| 19:33.02 | shorty114 | IT? |
| 19:33.07 | shorty114 | guu is a she |
| 19:33.07 | JeffM2501 | guu gender |
| 19:33.08 | guu | Im all woman baby |
| 19:33.13 | Birdie | lol |
| 19:33.21 | shorty114 | lol |
| 19:33.33 | |zongo| | haha |
| 19:34.16 | Birdie | real love |
| 19:34.20 | shorty114 | lol |
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| 19:36.43 | |zongo| | shorty114++ |
| 19:37.03 | |zongo| | ~shorty114++ |
| 19:37.28 | scanline | CIA should log all hugs and report them to the FBI |
| 19:38.03 | |zongo| | hehe |
| 19:38.34 | shorty114 | lol |
| 19:38.36 | shorty114 | inter-agency |
| 19:40.57 | JBdiGriz | Ciao Tupone |
| 19:41.06 | tea|tree | re |
| 19:42.31 | Tupone | All rumours are just rumours |
| 19:42.37 | JeffM2501 | there are rumors? |
| 19:42.39 | DTRemenak | they say it's your birthday today |
| 19:42.48 | Tupone | :) |
| 19:42.51 | shorty114 | ah |
| 19:42.53 | Birdie | happy birthday Tupone |
| 19:42.59 | JeffM2501 | happy bday |
| 19:43.00 | shorty114 | happy birthday Tupone |
| 19:43.05 | Birdie | guu sing for him |
| 19:43.05 | guu | Birdie: I'm sorry, I was listening to this tiny violin. |
| 19:43.07 | Tupone | thanks, thanks |
| 19:43.08 | DTRemenak | ~happy birthday tupone |
| 19:43.10 | ibot | ACTION sings the 'Happy Birthday' song horribly out of tune for tupone |
| 19:43.12 | |zongo| | Buon Compleanno! |
| 19:43.16 | Tupone | grazie |
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| 19:43.57 | ShadowRage | http://www.snopes.com/business/market/atari.asp |
| 19:44.08 | shorty114 | lol DTRemenak |
| 19:45.15 | Tupone | conversation is logged :( So everyone will know. I should hide. Thanks Mr DTRemenak :) |
| 19:45.24 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 19:46.26 | shorty114 | lol |
| 19:47.29 | blast007 | Tupone: happy birthday :D |
| 19:47.35 | Tupone | lol |
| 19:47.40 | blast007 | ;) |
| 19:50.09 | Tupone | No way to have host-banning fixed. :( Didn't saw any commit yet |
| 19:50.44 | bryjen | !seen sgk284 |
| 19:50.45 | guu | bryjen: sgk284 was last seen here 13 hours, 3 minutes, and 5 seconds ago saying: <sgk284> lol |
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| 19:54.13 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ComposeDefaultKey.cxx: add the "/diff" command (like "/set", but only non-defaults) |
| 19:54.45 | DTRemenak | ~trepan++ |
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| 20:34.48 | bryjen | hmm, the return value from AdnsHandler::checkDNSResolution() doesn't get use. but that may be a good thing, since i don't think it works as expected ;) |
| 20:36.08 | ShadowRage | any bzflag servers? |
| 20:39.47 | Legoguy | hey guys, what is the approximate default jump height in bzflag units |
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| 20:40.49 | Legoguy | also... what're the dimensions of a tank in bzflag units |
| 20:41.02 | Legoguy | so i can make a reference box |
| 20:41.03 | Legoguy | :P |
| 20:41.23 | bryjen | shellshock says around 19. its calculated from gravity and jump velocity |
| 20:41.40 | Legoguy | jump is about 19 units high... ok |
| 20:42.04 | Legoguy | what about tank dimensions (maybe tiny and obesity too) |
| 20:42.32 | bryjen | to be able to jump onto a box, it probly shouldn't be more than 15 units, or it'll be very difficult |
| 20:42.42 | Legoguy | bah ok |
| 20:42.51 | Legoguy | without checking first i made it 20 :P |
| 20:43.17 | bryjen | http://shellshock.bzflag.bz/guides-bzscience.html |
| 20:43.19 | Legoguy | i can probably just slightly adjust the jump velocity tho |
| 20:43.22 | Legoguy | :D |
| 20:45.06 | trepan | Legoguy: max height will be (0.5 * jumpvel * jumpvel / -gravity) |
| 20:45.15 | trepan | or you can just fiddle with it :) |
| 20:45.19 | Legoguy | yep |
| 20:45.48 | Legoguy | so i'd probably need a max jump height of 26 to get on a 20 high box? |
| 20:46.01 | Legoguy | (easily that is) |
| 20:46.16 | trepan | na, that's a bit much |
| 20:46.35 | trepan | 21 might be better |
| 20:46.52 | trepan | gives you 2.5 margin |
| 20:46.55 | Legoguy | ok, and trepan, do the meshes accept quads? or just tris? |
| 20:47.14 | trepan | any convex polygon |
| 20:47.18 | Legoguy | hmm :D |
| 20:47.24 | trepan | pents, hexes, septs, etc... |
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| 21:26.23 | Sbgodin | ! |
| 21:26.26 | Sbgodin | hi ! |
| 21:29.49 | bryjen | ~bzfquery bryjen.homelinux.org |
| 21:30.04 | Sbgodin | ~bzfquery sbgodin.dyndns.org |
| 21:31.15 | bryjen | can i get a couple of people to connect to bryjen.homelinux.org? |
| 21:31.37 | bryjen | testing a change to bzfs's DNS lookup |
| 21:32.44 | wegstar | ok |
| 21:34.14 | wegstar | darn...nvm |
| 21:34.54 | bryjen | ok, getting "submitted query". no "resolved to"'s yet. |
| 21:38.07 | Grumbler | so you done yet bryjen |
| 21:38.25 | bryjen | yeah, i got what i needed out of it |
| 21:38.35 | bryjen | thanks, Grumbler, trepan_away |
| 21:39.11 | tea|tree | gnite |
| 21:39.33 | bryjen | there's no "call back" from adns. it needs to poll. |
| 21:42.51 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): make AdnsHandler::checkDNSResolution return void since it's value wasn't being used. Add an enum to track resolution progress. |
| 21:43.38 | bryjen | that commit doesn't fix anything, but it makes things a bit more consistent |
| 21:47.21 | bryjen | sgk284: the hostban check probly needs to go back into doStuffOnPlayer. you have to call AdnsHandler::getHostname() to get it to even check for results |
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| 21:49.38 | bryjen | !seen sgk284 |
| 21:49.38 | guu | bryjen: sgk284 was last seen here 15 hours, 1 minute, and 57 seconds ago saying: <sgk284> lol |
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| 21:53.59 | Legoguy | alright... so i want my obj's to keep their smoothing groups... and they aren't, is there a trick to that? |
| 21:54.19 | Legoguy | or do i have to make seperate meshes of each group |
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| 22:27.49 | sgk284 | bryjen: ping |
| 22:30.53 | bryjen | pong |
| 22:31.22 | sgk284 | hey |
| 22:31.28 | sgk284 | err okay so whats going on? |
| 22:32.06 | bryjen | are you still working on hostbans? |
| 22:32.19 | sgk284 | sure |
| 22:33.11 | sgk284 | your saying that moving the code back from addPlayer() to doStuffOnPlayer() will fix the hostban problems? |
| 22:33.24 | sgk284 | i'll glady do it, it'll take about 5 seconds, just curious why |
| 22:34.30 | sgk284 | right now the code calls " playerData->netHandler->getHostname();" which in turn calls "adns->checkDNSResolution();" and returns "adns->getHostname();" |
| 22:34.59 | sgk284 | even if the hostban stuff was broken, /playerlist should still work fine yet it doesnt resolve hostnames either |
| 22:35.00 | bryjen | you can't count on the name to resolve before you call those |
| 22:35.18 | sgk284 | right i get that... but i still think the adns stuff might be broken |
| 22:35.27 | sgk284 | otherwise why does /playerlist always fail |
| 22:35.29 | sgk284 | ? |
| 22:35.43 | sgk284 | they shar no code other then the adns stuff |
| 22:35.46 | sgk284 | share* |
| 22:36.11 | sgk284 | well it doesnt always fail.. it fails to resolve about 95% of the time, at least on secretplace |
| 22:36.25 | bryjen | you have to repeatly call checkDNS.. until it is ready |
| 22:36.46 | bryjen | to poll for the result |
| 22:36.48 | sgk284 | ahh okay |
| 22:36.54 | sgk284 | makes sense, moving it back right now |
| 22:42.39 | bryjen | actually, now, you have to call NetHandler::getHostname, as i privatized checkDNS |
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| 22:44.18 | sgk284 | okay |
| 22:45.27 | sgk284 | the first few times doStuffOnPlayer() loops for a new conenction, it appears that player's callsign isn't known, is there any way to check if the perms have already been processed by that point |
| 22:45.44 | sgk284 | i want to check for antiban but if the perms havent been assigned yet it could give false results |
| 22:46.25 | bryjen | hm |
| 22:47.23 | sgk284 | thats the main reason (other then the looping) that i had moved it :/ i guess we could jsut check to see if the player has a callsign yet |
| 22:47.27 | sgk284 | s/jsut/just |
| 22:47.52 | sgk284 | if the callsign is null then just skip th ban part until the callsign isnt null |
| 22:48.08 | sgk284 | usually takes about 2 or 3 loops |
| 22:48.19 | sgk284 | judging from my local server's output |
| 22:49.21 | sgk284 | but i dont know if having a callsign implies that they have permissions too :/ |
| 22:49.29 | bryjen | ah, i thought it was mainly for the looping |
| 22:58.49 | sgk284 | nevermind, found it |
| 22:59.19 | sgk284 | if the play isVerified, then we can check the antiban perms, much cleaner:) |
| 23:01.21 | sgk284 | s/play/player |
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| 23:16.12 | sgk284 | can someone join krenzel.info:5154 ? |
| 23:16.46 | sgk284 | bzadmin or the client, doesnt matter :) |
| 23:16.54 | shorty114 | haha www.krenzel.info is undeer construction |
| 23:16.54 | sgk284 | just checking host resolution |
| 23:16.58 | shorty114 | it works. |
| 23:16.59 | sgk284 | :) |
| 23:17.13 | shorty114 | if this is what you put on it: Come back soon. Under Construction. |
| 23:17.44 | sgk284 | hehe |
| 23:18.03 | sgk284 | shorty114, can you join? :) |
| 23:18.12 | azop | ~bzfquery 213.13.211.231:5154 |
| 23:18.32 | sgk284 | ~bzfquery krenzel.info |
| 23:18.39 | sgk284 | yey |
| 23:19.02 | shorty114 | sgk284: no gl = no bzadmin :( |
| 23:19.11 | sgk284 | okay |
| 23:23.05 | azop | hi help please ;-)... my firewall is ignoring pings do u know if this is a problem to get a server listed? yeap redirection is ok just cant get the server listed. |
| 23:24.20 | shorty114 | you need pings for list server. |
| 23:24.44 | shorty114 | open up ports 80 and 5154 (or whatever port you run on) on your firewall |
| 23:25.54 | wegstar | aww.. |
| 23:33.47 | bryjen | isVerified is set when a registered account signs in |
| 23:34.40 | sgk284 | setPermissionRights() |
| 23:36.57 | sgk284 | bryjen, why doesn't get hostname call checkDNSResolution anymore? |
| 23:41.10 | bryjen | nethandler::gethostname calls adnsgethostname, which calls checkdnsres |
| 23:41.27 | sgk284 | ahh okay |
| 23:45.09 | sgk284 | okay, so anyway... even with the dns stuff being called over and over, its still not resolving, its been a problem since 2.0, not since my hostban stuff. the hostban stuff just brought more attention to it :) |
| 23:46.14 | DTRemenak | sgk284, there was a lot of reorganization of that code on the way to 2.0 it looks like. Something probably broke it. |
| 23:46.56 | sgk284 | yea, its nearly completely rewritten since 1.10.8, i went back to compare the two but its completely different |
| 23:47.35 | sgk284 | maybe something is just timing out too quick... i mean it works about 5% of the time |
| 23:47.38 | DTRemenak | you might want to do a regression check over it, if you have the desire and time |
| 23:48.01 | DTRemenak | e.g. find all the major patches that affected it, check out the code immediately before that date, try it out |
| 23:48.08 | DTRemenak | that'll tell you what patch killed it |
| 23:48.21 | sgk284 | k |
| 23:48.26 | DTRemenak | then you can look through the diff and see what exactly did it |
| 23:48.45 | DTRemenak | it's a lot of work though :( |
| 23:48.50 | sgk284 | yea :/ |
| 23:49.40 | DTRemenak | binary searches are fastest :) look through the cvs logs and make a list, start with the middle one. if it's broken move down else move up |
| 23:50.02 | sgk284 | sounds good |
| 23:50.17 | DTRemenak | there are only about a dozen commits touching adns code that I see right off hand |
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