| 00:00.44 | [6yob] | Patlabor221, When u run the installer exe does it install bzedit in your home dir? If not wherE? |
| 00:01.18 | Patlabor221 | that's up to wine |
| 00:01.25 | Patlabor221 | the installer puts it in the program files dir |
| 00:01.29 | Patlabor221 | it asksa the OS wher tht is |
| 00:01.53 | Patlabor221 | windows dosn't have a "home dir" |
| 00:02.32 | [6yob] | U know how to find the name wine installed it under? |
| 00:02.49 | [6yob] | Ive tried re-installing and lookign doesnt refrence it |
| 00:02.52 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 00:03.05 | Patlabor221 | can't you just do a search? |
| 00:03.09 | [6yob] | I seme to recall from my last install it was BZEdit32 or somen like u siad |
| 00:03.17 | Patlabor221 | linux can't do a search? |
| 00:03.17 | [6yob] | I suppose I could |
| 00:04.00 | sgk284 | [6yob], just came into the discussion, you cant find bzedit after installing it? |
| 00:04.08 | [6yob] | nope.. |
| 00:04.25 | sgk284 | [6yob], cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Prog*/BZ* |
| 00:04.48 | [6yob] | sgk284, that it? |
| 00:05.02 | sgk284 | should take you to the bzedit directory |
| 00:05.05 | [6yob] | :) |
| 00:05.09 | [6yob] | sweet ill try it |
| 00:05.46 | sgk284 | if you want to execute it without going to the directory just do: wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Pro*/BZE*/BZEdit32.exe |
| 00:07.29 | sgk284 | Patlabor221, of course linux can do a search:) |
| 00:09.33 | [6yob] | Invoking /usr/lib/wine/wine.bin BZEdit1.6.1/ ... |
| 00:09.33 | [6yob] | wine: cannot open (null) |
| 00:09.33 | [6yob] | Wine failed with return code 1 |
| 00:09.48 | Patlabor221 | them it don't work |
| 00:09.55 | sgk284 | yep |
| 00:10.07 | sgk284 | [6yob], do you have the libs in the bzedit directory/ |
| 00:10.08 | sgk284 | ? |
| 00:10.15 | [6yob] | :(*tears roll down face.. |
| 00:10.43 | [6yob] | what libs |
| 00:10.48 | [6yob] | the wine |
| 00:10.55 | Patlabor221 | the mfc dlls |
| 00:11.11 | [6yob] | yeah I moved them to the dir and unziped |
| 00:11.20 | [6yob] | the DLL kit? |
| 00:11.26 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:11.27 | sgk284 | [6yob], http://www.artemisgames.com/BZEdit/DLLKit.zip |
| 00:11.28 | Patlabor221 | unzip it |
| 00:11.29 | sgk284 | yea |
| 00:11.29 | [6yob] | I got it form the bzeddit guys |
| 00:11.35 | [6yob] | yeah there in there |
| 00:11.36 | Patlabor221 | yeah taht would be me |
| 00:11.41 | Patlabor221 | you unziped it |
| 00:11.45 | [6yob] | yup |
| 00:11.47 | Patlabor221 | and the raw DLLs are where the .exe is? |
| 00:11.51 | blast007 | did it extract to a subdirectory? |
| 00:12.13 | [6yob] | no |
| 00:12.49 | amathis | ugh |
| 00:12.58 | amathis | can someone put dtx.dll where Ic an download it? |
| 00:13.02 | amathis | I need it for wine. |
| 00:13.10 | amathis | I googled for it |
| 00:13.14 | Patlabor221 | dtx? |
| 00:13.16 | Patlabor221 | whats that from? |
| 00:13.21 | Patlabor221 | and your XP sysem woudl have it |
| 00:13.27 | sgk284 | wget http://www.artemisgames.com/BZEdit/DLLKit.zip; cp ./DLLKit.zip ~/.wine/Pr*/BZE*/; unzip ~/.wine/Pr*/BZE*/ |
| 00:13.37 | sgk284 | [6yob], thats for you |
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| 00:13.47 | amathis | Patlabor221: I don't have XP box ATM/ |
| 00:14.02 | [6yob] | sgk284, yeah already done it:) |
| 00:14.15 | sgk284 | oh okay, so its unzipped in the bzedit directory? |
| 00:14.55 | [6yob] | wait a sec..i noticed something |
| 00:15.00 | [6yob] | brb |
| 00:15.49 | sgk284 | oh and btw the unzip part should end with DLLKit.zip :) in case you still need to use it |
| 00:16.11 | blast007 | amathis: I don't have that file on my 2k machine |
| 00:16.15 | amathis | sgk284: does that DLLKit have dtx/dll ? |
| 00:16.25 | sgk284 | amathis: i doubt it |
| 00:16.35 | amathis | err:module:import_dll Library dtx.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\MilkShape 3D 1.7.2\\ms3d.exe") not found |
| 00:16.50 | sgk284 | doesnt microsoft's website have a bunch off dlls and stuff like dcom95 that you can download? |
| 00:16.52 | sgk284 | search on there |
| 00:16.59 | blast007 | amathis: hmm...let me check something |
| 00:17.32 | blast007 | ah, got it in my MilkShap 3D directory |
| 00:18.01 | blast007 | c:\Program Files\MilkShape 3D 1.7.0\DTX.dll |
| 00:18.11 | amathis | then WTF |
| 00:18.14 | amathis | >_< |
| 00:18.17 | blast007 | casing? |
| 00:18.23 | sgk284 | lol |
| 00:18.31 | blast007 | it might be looking for "dtx.dll" instead of "DTX.dll" |
| 00:18.35 | [6yob] | HA, I had unziped them in the Prog-file dir instead of BZEdit1.6.1... but still giving me and eror ..but im 1 step coloser lol |
| 00:18.37 | [6yob] | :D |
| 00:18.57 | sgk284 | yea if its saying cant find dtx.dll and the file is DTX.DLL then just lowercase it |
| 00:19.11 | sgk284 | [6yob], heh thats good:) |
| 00:19.36 | sgk284 | and then call the milkshae developers and tell them that they should be ashamed of themselves :) |
| 00:19.46 | sgk284 | i bet main() is void too |
| 00:19.49 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 00:20.10 | amathis | sgk284: no that is not it |
| 00:20.16 | amathis | err:module:import_dll No implementation for MFC42.DLL.6467 imported from L"C:\\Program Files\\MilkShape 3D 1.7.2\\dtx.dll", setting to 0xdeadbeef |
| 00:20.16 | [6yob] | err:module:import_dll Library MFC42.DLL |
| 00:20.17 | sgk284 | oh :( |
| 00:20.27 | sgk284 | [6yob], your missing quite a bit:) |
| 00:20.27 | [6yob] | ;-/ |
| 00:20.32 | [6yob] | :) |
| 00:20.50 | sgk284 | lots of wine discussion going on here.... isnt there a #wine ? i mean they might be better suited to your needs |
| 00:21.02 | [6yob] | I know! |
| 00:21.07 | [6yob] | there s a winex.. |
| 00:21.07 | sgk284 | hmm nevermind no #wine... |
| 00:21.13 | [6yob] | but no #wine! |
| 00:21.19 | sgk284 | try winex |
| 00:21.26 | sgk284 | same code base:) |
| 00:21.31 | [6yob] | Yeah good idea:) |
| 00:21.42 | amathis | scrug it |
| 00:22.21 | sgk284 | amathis: what distribution are you running? |
| 00:22.31 | amathis | sgk284: Mandrake... har har... j/k |
| 00:22.40 | amathis | Ubuntu Debian |
| 00:23.02 | sgk284 | does it have exec shield enabled by default? many distros do |
| 00:23.19 | amathis | no |
| 00:23.26 | amathis | ewww |
| 00:23.28 | sgk284 | and it handles memory much differently then windows and a few (many) programs wont work with exec shiled under wine |
| 00:23.33 | sgk284 | oh okay |
| 00:23.39 | amathis | Cedega is not free?!! |
| 00:23.40 | amathis | WTF |
| 00:23.51 | sgk284 | amathis: nope... people have their oppinions about that |
| 00:23.52 | amathis | arg |
| 00:23.59 | sgk284 | you can grab cvs though and compile it |
| 00:24.04 | amathis | really |
| 00:24.04 | amathis | ? |
| 00:24.05 | amathis | awesome |
| 00:24.05 | sgk284 | large chunks are missing though |
| 00:24.11 | amathis | ?? |
| 00:24.12 | amathis | o.0 |
| 00:24.14 | amathis | WHY? |
| 00:24.19 | sgk284 | because of propritary code |
| 00:24.29 | sgk284 | like code allwoign you to use protected game discs |
| 00:24.39 | sgk284 | that the game manufactures dont want people to know about |
| 00:24.51 | [6yob] | Ahh how come /join #winex takes me to #cedega;D |
| 00:24.54 | sgk284 | cedega had to sign their lives away for access to that code:) |
| 00:27.41 | [6yob] | sgk284, have u installed bzedit under wine? If so what version did u use and what OS? |
| 00:27.57 | [6yob] | Version og bzedit |
| 00:28.06 | [6yob] | of* |
| 00:28.12 | amathis | wtf.. |
| 00:28.17 | amathis | you can't just buy it once either? |
| 00:28.18 | amathis | WTF |
| 00:28.29 | sgk284 | [6yob], yea and it ran fine but anything dealing with opengl just didnt update, so it was completely unusable :) installed it under Fedora |
| 00:28.36 | sgk284 | amathis, yea its a subscription iirc |
| 00:28.51 | [6yob] | sgk284, U rane the 1.6.1 |
| 00:29.00 | [6yob] | could be the new has asome probs |
| 00:29.42 | sgk284 | yea i ran 1.6.1 |
| 00:29.55 | [6yob] | k thanks |
| 00:30.00 | sgk284 | sure:) |
| 00:41.38 | [6yob] | Lol I've narrowed it donw to this: Invoking /usr/lib/wine/wine.bin BZEdit32.exe ... |
| 00:41.38 | [6yob] | err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\BZEdit1.6.1\\BZEdit32.exe" failed, status c0000142 |
| 00:41.39 | [6yob] | Wine failed with return code 1 |
| 00:41.50 | [6yob] | About to thow in the towel.. |
| 00:41.53 | [6yob] | :) |
| 00:42.22 | [6yob] | Any gurus out there im open for advice:) |
| 00:44.05 | sgk284 | throw in the towel |
| 00:44.08 | [6yob] | lol |
| 00:44.20 | [6yob] | Thats it im out to buy a dell:) |
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| 00:44.32 | sgk284 | huh? lol |
| 00:44.41 | blast007 | yuck..dell |
| 00:44.42 | [6yob] | Have a 2nd cpu in my room with windows installed |
| 00:44.47 | [6yob] | yeah i know:) |
| 00:45.01 | blast007 | should get a custom build ;) |
| 00:45.12 | blast007 | no proprietary hardware |
| 00:45.13 | [6yob] | I did..build the one im on |
| 00:45.18 | [6yob] | :) |
| 00:45.22 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:45.57 | [6yob] | Might go but a new CPU il just prebuy one with windows and run bzedit that way:P |
| 00:46.04 | sgk284 | heh |
| 00:46.24 | [6yob] | 400-1000 out but eh..:P |
| 00:46.30 | blast007 | could buy a refurb |
| 00:46.32 | [6yob] | Im of to play some bz.. |
| 00:46.42 | sgk284 | if you have a window cd, qemu will run windows 98 (i've done it it) and windows XP(I havent done it) at somewhat reasonable speeds |
| 00:46.59 | [6yob] | cool |
| 00:47.09 | [6yob] | yeah i got a win cd around som,ewhere |
| 00:47.27 | sgk284 | whether 3d will work is a different story:) i did it for testing purposes |
| 00:47.39 | [6yob] | K later thanks for the help sgk284 and Patlabor221 insight was needed |
| 00:47.41 | sgk284 | but even if it doesnt, its still worht the effort:) |
| 00:47.43 | sgk284 | cya |
| 00:47.47 | [6yob] | bzflag waits:) |
| 00:48.32 | sgk284 | wine is a very finicky program int indexToBan = -1; |
| 00:48.32 | sgk284 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.32 | sgk284 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.44 | sgk284 | heh ignore anything after program |
| 00:48.51 | sgk284 | middle clikced my mouse :/ |
| 00:52.08 | JBdiGriz | Nidhoggr: ping |
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| 01:00.15 | sgk284 | shorty114: hey |
| 01:06.46 | shorty114 | hi sgk284 |
| 01:07.31 | sgk284 | your an admin for viper? |
| 01:18.49 | sgk284 | hmm just a note (and i'll look at it when i get back) but something is seriously wrong with TextUtils::firstVisible() :/ passing it " " is returning 8 |
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| 01:23.01 | shorty114 | sgk284: me? yes i'm a cop on viper's server |
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| 01:31.50 | sgk284 | oh heh just looked at firstVisible(), believe the problem is an out of bounds thing, because unless the string is of length 0, then it assumes that the string has a visible character in it somewhere |
| 01:32.11 | sgk284 | perhpas (i < max) should be replaced with (i < input.length()) |
| 01:32.39 | DTRemenak | that will change the results in certain situations |
| 01:32.51 | sgk284 | how so? |
| 01:32.58 | sgk284 | why would youever look past the end of the string? |
| 01:32.58 | DTRemenak | if max < input.length |
| 01:33.11 | DTRemenak | e.g. " abc", max 2 |
| 01:33.17 | DTRemenak | should return -1 |
| 01:33.36 | DTRemenak | right now it will return 0 |
| 01:33.40 | DTRemenak | which is wrong |
| 01:33.51 | DTRemenak | with your change it would return 5, which is also wrong |
| 01:33.55 | sgk284 | oh fair enough... then how about: while (!isVisible(input[i]) && (i < max) && (i < input.length()) { |
| 01:34.11 | sgk284 | :) |
| 01:34.22 | DTRemenak | probably better to set max to input.length if input.length < max |
| 01:34.46 | sgk284 | okay |
| 01:34.48 | DTRemenak | then you aren't derefing and calling a function every loop |
| 01:34.57 | sgk284 | yea that makes sense |
| 01:35.33 | DTRemenak | fwiw, the other first* functions are similarly broken |
| 01:36.09 | sgk284 | okay |
| 01:40.06 | sgk284 | i guess i can change http://krenzel.info/snapshot1.png to n-1 now ;) |
| 01:40.59 | DTRemenak | heh |
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| 01:54.54 | DTRemenak | hmph, anyone know anything about http://pastebin.ca/2673 ? |
| 01:55.44 | amathis | o.0 |
| 01:55.48 | amathis | never seen that before. |
| 01:57.14 | DTRemenak | ah, oops |
| 01:57.49 | DTRemenak | I seem to have a conflict with the cvs version |
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| 01:59.27 | amathis | hi BZFlag4946! |
| 02:02.57 | DTRemenak | talkative fella |
| 02:07.59 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: I just removed bzfrelay.6 so you should re-run auto* |
| 02:09.14 | DTRemenak | TimRiker, that was an error from autogen.sh |
| 02:09.30 | DTRemenak | I had modified the manpage makefile, and hadn't seen the conflict warning from cvs |
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| 02:10.22 | TimRiker | no conficts now? or what? perhaps you want to rm -rf src/bzfrelay ? |
| 02:10.42 | DTRemenak | heh, no - just cvs update -C man/Makefile.am |
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| 02:11.03 | TimRiker | ah |
| 02:12.21 | Chewie[] | anyone have servers on weird ports for people with the common ports blocked? |
| 02:13.00 | DTRemenak | Chewie[], what version and which ports? |
| 02:14.00 | TimRiker | Chewie[]: the public list has all the port numbers |
| 02:14.03 | wegstar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.01 | blast007 | wegstar: what browser? |
| 02:15.10 | wegstar | firefox |
| 02:15.11 | TimRiker | Chewie[]: http://db.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST |
| 02:15.38 | wegstar | should i use ie? |
| 02:15.42 | Chewie[] | TimRiker: mmm. |
| 02:15.48 | Chewie[] | DTRemenak: http://db.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST |
| 02:15.49 | Chewie[] | er |
| 02:15.53 | MeBigFatGuy | wegstar, its most likely to work with ie |
| 02:16.06 | Chewie[] | DTRemenak: < Fermented_Duck_Fetus> aha, 1.10.8 for MacOS X |
| 02:16.17 | Chewie[] | DTRemenak: and all he told me was the defaults were blocked. |
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| 02:16.28 | Chewie[] | DTRemenak: or, well, he assumes. |
| 02:16.33 | blast007 | wegstar: yeah, guess it does the same thing for me...works on IE though |
| 02:16.37 | Chewie[] | < Fermented_Duck_Fetus> "Error downloading world database." |
| 02:16.40 | shorty114 | TimRiker: are the fields seperated by spaces? |
| 02:16.48 | shorty114 | on db.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST |
| 02:16.53 | DTRemenak | Chewie[], if he gets that far it's not a port issue |
| 02:17.07 | DTRemenak | 'cause it's already done flag negotiation and so on |
| 02:17.13 | TimRiker | shorty114: yeah. except the last field which can contain spaces. |
| 02:17.34 | Chewie[] | DTRemenak: what could it be then? |
| 02:17.53 | DTRemenak | Chewie[], dunno. try different servers? |
| 02:17.54 | shorty114 | TimRiker: hmmm...that presents a problem |
| 02:18.04 | DTRemenak | Chewie[], network problems maybe |
| 02:18.07 | shorty114 | i _was_ gonna do explode() with PHP |
| 02:18.36 | Chewie[] | having him try a few different ones. |
| 02:18.43 | blast007 | shorty114: do an explode, grab the first few array items, and unset them, then do a join of the rest |
| 02:18.51 | shorty114 | blast007: ok |
| 02:19.10 | Chewie[] | shorty114: or, er, split with a limit |
| 02:19.22 | blast007 | ah, yes |
| 02:19.47 | shorty114 | TimRiker: does db.bzflag.org:5154 have the same output? |
| 02:19.53 | shorty114 | Chewie[]: how to do that? |
| 02:20.16 | blast007 | think preg_split can do a limit |
| 02:20.51 | Chewie[] | http://us2.php.net/split |
| 02:20.54 | blast007 | and apparently split can too |
| 02:20.57 | Chewie[] | blast007: split can too |
| 02:20.58 | Chewie[] | heh. yeah |
| 02:21.02 | shorty114 | TimRiker: is the sample PHP script still in the CVS? |
| 02:21.04 | shorty114 | hehe |
| 02:21.05 | Chewie[] | i'd still do it in Perl though |
| 02:21.11 | TimRiker | shorty114: no. that's only the old 1.7 servers. probably 2 of them. |
| 02:21.32 | TimRiker | shorty114: or you mean the same format? well, they are similar, but the hex data is different. |
| 02:21.43 | shorty114 | TimRiker: oh that's the 1.7 servers? |
| 02:21.45 | shorty114 | ah ok |
| 02:22.34 | TimRiker | the 1.7 servers are on the old bzfls which is on rikers.org:5155 actually. |
| 02:22.51 | TimRiker | 1.10 and newer are only available over http. |
| 02:23.13 | wegstar | a world map file ends in..... ".map"? |
| 02:23.22 | blast007 | or .bzw |
| 02:23.26 | wegstar | ok |
| 02:23.41 | blast007 | doesn't really matter though |
| 02:23.45 | wegstar | ok |
| 02:23.53 | DTRemenak | .bzw is preferred |
| 02:24.02 | shorty114 | TimRiker: ok. |
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| 02:24.25 | shorty114 | .bzw if you wnat to start a server ingame, but anything if you use bzfs... |
| 02:24.35 | amathis | .. |
| 02:24.36 | wegstar | oh |
| 02:24.39 | amathis | start a server ingame? |
| 02:24.40 | TimRiker | wegstar: .bzw is the official. please use it. |
| 02:24.49 | amathis | ohh |
| 02:24.49 | amathis | ok |
| 02:24.51 | amathis | heh |
| 02:25.01 | amathis | I thought you meant start a server while playing on another server |
| 02:25.21 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: that's a good idea. |
| 02:25.24 | shorty114 | there _should_ be a standard extention... |
| 02:25.26 | DTRemenak | TimRiker, ok |
| 02:25.26 | blast007 | doesn't bzedit save maps as .map? |
| 02:25.32 | lan56 | it's a free country, as some may say in response, though |
| 02:25.32 | patlabor221 | what is the config switch to disable SDL? |
| 02:25.43 | lan56 | undef HAVE_SDL |
| 02:25.45 | DTRemenak | lan56, then they may ignore the warning :) |
| 02:25.45 | TimRiker | lan56: and they are welcome to reply that way. ;-) |
| 02:25.53 | TimRiker | =) |
| 02:25.59 | patlabor221 | lan56 that is just the include part, it still links to SDL |
| 02:26.00 | wegstar | but i use bzedit and i end up with files that have a .map extension |
| 02:26.02 | lan56 | timriker: good point, its a free country, they can reply any way they want |
| 02:26.04 | patlabor221 | so that's not all of it |
| 02:26.10 | lan56 | patlabor221: ahh, I see |
| 02:26.10 | DTRemenak | wegstar, then you need a newer bzedit |
| 02:26.15 | wegstar | oh |
| 02:26.17 | patlabor221 | there is an option when you run configure |
| 02:26.26 | patlabor221 | just change the extenstion |
| 02:26.27 | shorty114 | lan56: by flicking the terminal window off, ignoring it, renaming their files, you name it ;) |
| 02:26.30 | patlabor221 | it's just a text file |
| 02:26.36 | wegstar | ok |
| 02:26.40 | TimRiker | ~page Nidhoggr you around? |
| 02:27.51 | patlabor221 | ahh it's --without-SDL |
| 02:27.58 | patlabor221 | now I can make a real non SDL mac version |
| 02:28.06 | wegstar | what do i put for "Use Public List Server;" |
| 02:28.08 | shorty114 | TimRiker: do i open http://db.bzflag.org/db/?action=LIST with fsockopen() or fopen() ? |
| 02:28.25 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/game/MeshTransform.cxx: include common.h not win32.h |
| 02:28.26 | MeBigFatGuy | wegstar, ordinarily you just leave that blank |
| 02:28.34 | wegstar | ok |
| 02:28.38 | patlabor221 | ibot message for learner, 10.2 builds of CVS are busted too, many errors. I can get you output if you need/care |
| 02:29.25 | shorty114 | wegstar: you just leave it blank. If it isn't defined, it just goes to the default, db.bzflag.org. |
| 02:29.37 | wegstar | do i put a url or ip address for "public address" |
| 02:29.42 | shorty114 | yes |
| 02:29.46 | wegstar | ok |
| 02:29.55 | MeBigFatGuy | ip |
| 02:29.58 | shorty114 | that's how people connect to your server |
| 02:30.15 | shorty114 | mebigfatguy: if you have something like dyndns, you can do foo.dyndns.org |
| 02:30.30 | wegstar | do i leave "Listen On Interface" blank? |
| 02:30.31 | MeBigFatGuy | yes, but not a url |
| 02:30.34 | MeBigFatGuy | yes |
| 02:30.38 | MeBigFatGuy | unless you have to network cards |
| 02:30.44 | MeBigFatGuy | two ... |
| 02:30.44 | amathis | MeBigFatGuy: :D |
| 02:30.46 | shorty114 | i think he means domain :) |
| 02:30.51 | wegstar | yeah |
| 02:30.59 | TimRiker | shorty114: huh? you need to do a web request, it's not a file. |
| 02:31.06 | wegstar | ? |
| 02:31.12 | amathis | shorty114: f == file |
| 02:31.30 | amathis | fopen() |
| 02:31.32 | amathis | file open |
| 02:31.36 | blast007 | fopen can open urls |
| 02:31.39 | amathis | same with fsocketopen |
| 02:31.41 | amathis | blast007, I know |
| 02:31.49 | amathis | blast007, I was making my point.. o.o |
| 02:31.55 | shorty114 | i know fopen is file open |
| 02:32.00 | shorty114 | i also know you can open URLs |
| 02:33.20 | shorty114 | amathis: is it on CBS? |
| 02:33.30 | amathis | shorty114: yes |
| 02:33.39 | lan56 | speaking of football, usc won, which was expected, if anybody didn't see the ending |
| 02:33.47 | amathis | no one cares about that |
| 02:33.49 | wegstar | when i press build config. a little window pop ups only for a sec. |
| 02:33.50 | amathis | SEC is life. |
| 02:33.58 | shorty114 | amathis: ah i heard about that game...Tennesse vs. Someone |
| 02:33.59 | amathis | me watches TN vs Aub game |
| 02:34.04 | shorty114 | ah that's it |
| 02:34.06 | wegstar | is there something wrong? |
| 02:34.14 | MeBigFatGuy | sounds like it |
| 02:34.57 | MeBigFatGuy | wegstar, in bottom left corner, is there a error icon? |
| 02:34.58 | blast007 | wegstar: do you have a popup blocker? |
| 02:35.03 | MeBigFatGuy | ah yes |
| 02:35.06 | wegstar | nope i turned it off |
| 02:35.09 | blast007 | hmm |
| 02:35.36 | MeBigFatGuy | perhaps turn on JavaScript console in tools menu |
| 02:35.46 | wegstar | ok |
| 02:36.20 | blast007 | hmm, my IE doesn't have that |
| 02:36.28 | wegstar | yeah me either |
| 02:36.40 | shorty114 | eeew IE? |
| 02:36.42 | MeBigFatGuy | oh heh, firefox |
| 02:36.43 | MeBigFatGuy | sorry |
| 02:36.49 | amathis | Oklahoma is killing Colorado |
| 02:36.57 | shorty114 | isn't it Tools > Internet Options |
| 02:36.59 | blast007 | shorty114: the configuration builder doesn't work in FireFox |
| 02:37.01 | shorty114 | and then one of those tabs |
| 02:37.13 | shorty114 | blast007: eeew IE-specific page |
| 02:37.14 | shorty114 | :) |
| 02:37.15 | wegstar | wait.. there is an "error on page" - 'undefined' is null or not an object |
| 02:37.20 | amathis | TOUCHDOWN! |
| 02:37.21 | amathis | !!! |
| 02:37.21 | guu` | amathis: Do I look like that kind of girl? |
| 02:37.22 | amathis | w00t! |
| 02:37.29 | amathis | guu`: quiet. |
| 02:37.30 | guu` | amathis: Poke me there again, and you'll pull back a stump. |
| 02:37.37 | amathis | ... |
| 02:37.38 | amathis | o.0 |
| 02:37.39 | amathis | meanie |
| 02:37.40 | blast007 | :/ |
| 02:37.48 | shorty114 | why isn't guu guu instead of guu`?\ |
| 02:38.00 | amathis | <message type="subliminal">Guu is moody... </message> |
| 02:38.52 | MeBigFatGuy | does it give a line number? |
| 02:39.00 | wegstar | whatever, i'll do it through notepad. |
| 02:39.07 | blast007 | :) |
| 02:39.43 | shorty114 | wegstar: easiest |
| 02:39.45 | shorty114 | :) |
| 02:40.03 | wegstar | right. |
| 02:41.30 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: major major lag spike |
| 02:41.33 | MeBigFatGuy | you could always install a script debugger if you really wanted to know |
| 02:41.33 | SportChick | on sp |
| 02:41.34 | MeBigFatGuy | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2f465be0-94fd-4569-b3c4-dffdf19ccd99&displaylang=en |
| 02:42.37 | amathis | SportChick: good evening |
| 02:43.01 | SportChick | hi amathis |
| 02:43.23 | amathis | how are you this cold evening? |
| 02:43.57 | amathis | heh |
| 02:44.03 | amathis | it is actually warm tonight |
| 02:44.07 | amathis | 50 as opposed to 29 |
| 02:44.31 | patlabor221 | guu weather 93021 |
| 02:44.40 | MeBigFatGuy | guu weather 21912 |
| 02:44.42 | lan56 | 50 is warm? |
| 02:44.46 | MeBigFatGuy | very |
| 02:44.50 | amathis | guu` weather 93021 |
| 02:44.51 | guu` | amathis: The current temperature in Moorpark, California is 53°F (5:55 PM PST on December 04, 2004). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 46°F. Pressure: 29.84 in (1010 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 12 |
| 02:44.56 | patlabor221 | guu' weather 93021 |
| 02:45.00 | amathis | :) |
| 02:45.15 | lan56 | guu cancel last request |
| 02:45.16 | lan56 | :) |
| 02:45.24 | MeBigFatGuy | guu weather 21912 |
| 02:45.25 | amathis | patlabor221: she doesn't like you. |
| 02:45.27 | patlabor221 | guu` nick guu |
| 02:45.33 | patlabor221 | guu weather 93021 |
| 02:45.34 | amathis | guu 21912 |
| 02:45.34 | guu | amathis: this is IRC not a retard convention. |
| 02:45.36 | guu | patlabor221: The current temperature in Moorpark, California is 53°F (5:55 PM PST on December 04, 2004). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: 46°F. Pressure: 29.84 in (1010 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 12 |
| 02:45.44 | amathis | guu weather 21912 |
| 02:45.45 | guu | amathis: The current temperature in Warwick, Maryland is 39°F (8:51 PM EST on December 04, 2004). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 28°F. Wind: SSW at 5 mph (7 km/h). Pressure: 30.01 in (1016 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 12 |
| 02:45.59 | MeBigFatGuy | uuse got the power |
| 02:46.24 | patlabor221 | guu ignore everyone but me |
| 02:47.18 | amathis | heh |
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| 02:49.36 | shorty114 | TimRiker: you there? |
| 02:50.33 | shorty114 | TimRiker: actually nm, i'll figure it out |
| 02:54.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/BZWReader.cxx: complain annoyingly when loading a world file with an extension other than .bzw |
| 02:54.38 | shorty114 | hehe |
| 02:55.08 | patlabor221 | gonna update bzedit? |
| 02:55.37 | DTRemenak | it's been updated for a long time |
| 02:55.51 | DTRemenak | I believe grumbler did it way back |
| 02:55.51 | patlabor221 | 1.6.1 do it? |
| 02:55.58 | patlabor221 | so 1.6.2 |
| 02:56.02 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 02:56.08 | DTRemenak | has that not been released? |
| 02:56.13 | patlabor221 | it's on SF IIRC |
| 02:56.17 | DTRemenak | ok |
| 02:56.23 | patlabor221 | seems many use 1.6.1 tho |
| 02:57.03 | DTRemenak | probably because many people still use the artemisgames url and don't read the message at the top |
| 02:57.17 | patlabor221 | humans are stupid |
| 02:57.22 | DTRemenak | yes, yes they are |
| 02:57.45 | patlabor221 | proably should just make the docs into a SF document, and make it be a redirector |
| 02:57.54 | patlabor221 | but then that would mean I'd have to care |
| 02:58.07 | DTRemenak | google returns the artemisgames page as the first hit |
| 02:58.11 | DTRemenak | that's probably why people use it |
| 02:58.15 | DTRemenak | ~bzedit |
| 02:58.16 | ibot | well, bzedit is a graphical editor for bzflag maps. And up2date versions can be found on sourceforge |
| 02:58.22 | DTRemenak | that's good at least |
| 02:58.26 | amathis | ~google bzedit |
| 02:58.45 | patlabor221 | first post on the page is "dude use SF" |
| 02:58.49 | lan56 | I feel that humans are as smart as any other animal, they just can't speak gorilla, for example, to realise how much a gorilla or any other animal knows and intelligent |
| 02:59.10 | patlabor221 | humans get stupider in groups, animals get smarter |
| 02:59.24 | DTRemenak | patlabor221, could just change the downloads section to say "download it from sf" |
| 02:59.41 | patlabor221 | when humans get into groups they com up with concepts like "religion" and generaly just kill each other. |
| 03:00.07 | DTRemenak | hah |
| 03:00.15 | DTRemenak | yeah, actually I was assuming that :) |
| 03:00.24 | lan56 | most animals kill other animals for certain reasons, like a cheetah killing a deer |
| 03:00.38 | amathis | ... cheetas don't live around deer. |
| 03:00.38 | patlabor221 | but they hunt better in packs :) |
| 03:00.44 | amathis | and I kill deer o.0 |
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| 03:00.57 | DTRemenak | lan56, ever seen a cheeta kill another cheeta over the deer they just killed together? |
| 03:00.58 | lan56 | amathis: well, whatever animal they kill, zebra then] |
| 03:01.07 | amathis | DTRemenak: good point >D |
| 03:01.08 | lan56 | dtremenak: yes, it is fascinating |
| 03:01.26 | amathis | ok discovery channel geeks... |
| 03:01.41 | patlabor221 | but humans justify it, it's not about food |
| 03:01.45 | lan56 | the discovery channel reruns things they recorded like 10 years ago, I have yet to see something up to date |
| 03:01.50 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 03:01.57 | amathis | :( |
| 03:02.04 | amathis | Tennessee almost beat Auburn |
| 03:02.36 | patlabor221 | I guess lan56 never watches American Chopper |
| 03:02.48 | amathis | heh. |
| 03:02.50 | lan56 | nope |
| 03:03.19 | patlabor221 | but I guess it's ok to generalaise an entire channel buy the few things you watch |
| 03:03.48 | patlabor221 | monster nation is cool |
| 03:03.50 | lan56 | I guess it depends on how big your idea is spread |
| 03:03.52 | amathis | yeah |
| 03:05.41 | amathis | lan56: your statement was pretty general.. |
| 03:06.13 | lan56 | it doesn't even matter, it was just an idea I had thought of a few times when flipping through channels and stumbling upon it |
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| 03:11.13 | DTRemenak | patlabor221, is it OK if I rip off the text from the "features" section of the artemisgames bzedit site and stick it in the bzflag wiki? |
| 03:11.28 | patlabor221 | rip wjat ever you wish |
| 03:11.41 | patlabor221 | do the tutorial too |
| 03:11.51 | DTRemenak | ok |
| 03:29.25 | DTRemenak | hmm, how do I add the bzedit screenshots to the bzflag webspace? can I just drop them in the right directory on sf or do I need to do something with the web module in cvs? |
| 03:30.25 | wegstar | ~bzfquery node.game-cc.net:5154 |
| 03:30.51 | blast007 | ~nslookup node.game-cc.net |
| 03:30.59 | wegstar | oops |
| 03:31.02 | wegstar | typed it wrong |
| 03:31.05 | blast007 | ah |
| 03:36.11 | wegstar | ~bzfquery asdf.game-server.cc:5154 |
| 03:36.13 | sgk284 | DTRemenak, did you take care of the textutils or should i do that now? |
| 03:36.21 | DTRemenak | sgk284, I did not |
| 03:36.25 | sgk284 | okay |
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| 03:39.34 | wegstar | ~bzfquery asdf.game-server.cc:5154 |
| 03:43.38 | DTRemenak | the bzedit pages have been wikified |
| 03:44.32 | wegstar | ~bzfquery asdf.game-server.cc:5154 |
| 03:45.02 | blast007 | wegstar: do you have a firewall? |
| 03:45.08 | wegstar | yeah |
| 03:45.13 | lan56 | dtremenak: cool |
| 03:45.14 | wegstar | i turned it off |
| 03:46.11 | blast007 | hmm, I can ping you |
| 03:46.15 | wegstar | oh |
| 03:46.26 | blast007 | so the address is right |
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| 03:58.52 | wegstar | # This is a BZFlag Server (bzfs) configuration file. To make the server |
| 03:58.52 | wegstar | # use this file, use the command "bzfs -conf /path/to/this/file.conf". |
| 03:58.52 | wegstar | # Please read through it carefully. Lines starting with a # are comments. |
| 03:58.52 | wegstar | # to enable an option, remove the # at the beginning of a line. To |
| 03:58.52 | wegstar | # disable that option, put the # back. There are some examples in this |
| 03:59.01 | blast007 | heh |
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| 04:01.25 | blast007 | wegstar: if you want to post your conf file, throw it up on http://www.pastebin.com |
