| 00:00.53 | triclops | you can always fire up a parition program (eg fdisk) and get a list of partitions |
| 00:01.00 | Patlabor221 | yay it worked |
| 00:01.00 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 00:01.53 | Patlabor221 | now I can finaly get all the data off of sasami |
| 00:02.04 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 00:02.53 | triclops | nothing like transfering data across a fast ide channel |
| 00:03.41 | Patlabor221 | no, the NIC in sasami died |
| 00:03.50 | Patlabor221 | so I had to copy all the data to a drive I could pull |
| 00:04.07 | Patlabor221 | then put the drive into a system that has a working network so I can scp the data to it's new home |
| 00:04.17 | triclops | ah, couldn't just replace the NIC? |
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| 00:05.05 | Patlabor221 | I don't have any more realteck NICs |
| 00:05.22 | Patlabor221 | and the kernel dosn't have support for anything else |
| 00:05.41 | Patlabor221 | so rather then me work on adding support and all that, faster to just copy the data |
| 00:06.57 | corndawg | hey Patlabor221 |
| 00:07.03 | Patlabor221 | hello |
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| 00:19.05 | corndawg | SportChick, was that you last night that was kickin my bum in bzflag? |
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| 00:43.14 | SportChick | dunno - maybe |
| 00:43.19 | SportChick | on sp 5154? |
| 00:43.43 | corndawg | are you chickadee? |
| 00:43.50 | SportChick | nope - I'm SportChick |
| 00:43.55 | corndawg | ahhh |
| 00:43.56 | corndawg | k |
| 00:45.10 | freakazoid | hi |
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| 00:47.30 | freakazoid | hi orchid |
| 00:47.37 | orchid | hello |
| 00:47.47 | freakazoid | how's life? |
| 00:48.07 | orchid | its good, life is good |
| 01:02.35 | corndawg | can ya picture 400 gigs of mp3s :D |
| 01:02.54 | freakazoid | are they decent mp3s? |
| 01:03.02 | corndawg | dunno |
| 01:03.06 | corndawg | i know mine are |
| 01:03.15 | corndawg | but i aint got 400 gigs either |
| 01:03.17 | corndawg | lol |
| 01:03.26 | corndawg | 4,600 mp3s is what i have |
| 01:03.35 | corndawg | all 192 bitrate |
| 01:04.54 | PrezKennedy | i have about 8 mp3s |
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| 01:05.36 | freakazoid | my wife has a couple hundred |
| 01:05.44 | freakazoid | I don't really collect them any more |
| 01:05.54 | freakazoid | I have a couple hundred too |
| 01:06.00 | freakazoid | she probably has more than that actually |
| 01:06.15 | corndawg | ah |
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| 01:07.03 | corndawg | ive found that 182 bitrate is the only thing that sounds good on my system... 128 sounds like crap.. and anything over 192 just eats up hard drive space |
| 01:07.11 | corndawg | err 192 |
| 01:07.12 | corndawg | duh |
| 01:07.21 | nichos | Hi all, having trouble for some reason. when i run bzflag, the video is all messed up. Its like the horiztonal refresh on an old TV, cept its not scrolling |
| 01:07.32 | nichos | im have an nvidia card, and using the nvidia module |
| 01:08.18 | corndawg | nichos, linux or windows? |
| 01:08.21 | nichos | unreal works fine |
| 01:08.26 | nichos | oh, sorry;) linux 2.6 |
| 01:08.28 | nichos | debian |
| 01:08.38 | amathis | nichos, and ut2k4 looks fine? |
| 01:08.42 | nichos | yeah |
| 01:08.44 | amathis | nichos, that is odd.. |
| 01:08.58 | nichos | the only thing (that i know of) thats different, is that my resultion for X is much higher than it is when i use to play bz |
| 01:09.20 | nichos | default is 1600x1200 |
| 01:10.06 | corndawg | try the res settings in bzflag? |
| 01:10.11 | orchid | grep resolution ~/.bzf/config |
| 01:10.31 | nichos | set resolution "1280x1024 @75" |
| 01:10.50 | nichos | can i just change that, or would it be better to rm -rf .bzf |
| 01:10.54 | corndawg | wierd |
| 01:11.04 | corndawg | cause ive got a nvidia card and bzflag works great |
| 01:11.09 | orchid | nichos, mv .bzf .oldbzf |
| 01:11.23 | nichos | ive been playing bz for about 3yrs, w/nvidia cards, never had any trouble |
| 01:11.27 | nichos | though havent played in about a yr. now |
| 01:11.49 | nichos | orchid it worked;) |
| 01:11.54 | nichos | weird, maybe my old config was messed up |
| 01:12.21 | nichos | cool, i can avoid work now;) |
| 01:12.37 | nichos | thanks guys |
| 01:12.45 | corndawg | lol |
| 01:13.17 | corndawg | lol anyone here sides me hear bzflag through a 1,700 watt sound system? |
| 01:13.21 | corndawg | whoa man... slick |
| 01:13.50 | freakazoid | BANG! ... ricochet... |
| 01:13.57 | corndawg | lol yep |
| 01:14.23 | corndawg | well... ya know when ya fire.. thats for sure |
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| 01:20.37 | nichos | so do the neighbors;) |
| 01:21.15 | corndawg | hah yea well.. they havnt complained yet |
| 01:21.30 | nichos | maybe they think its *their* bzflag;) |
| 01:21.37 | corndawg | lol |
| 01:22.01 | corndawg | hum.. too bad the one bar i dj at doesnt have a cable connection... or any connection |
| 01:22.10 | corndawg | id fire up bzflag for em |
| 01:22.15 | corndawg | should be intresting |
| 01:22.27 | amathis | ew |
| 01:22.28 | amathis | dj. |
| 01:22.29 | nichos | anyone using bzflag with ipcop? |
| 01:22.32 | amathis | ew ... |
| 01:22.33 | amathis | bar |
| 01:22.34 | amathis | :P |
| 01:22.40 | corndawg | lol amathis |
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| 01:27.53 | amathis | w00t |
| 01:27.57 | amathis | Bos 1 Ny 0 |
| 01:28.35 | nichos | how can i shut off the player stats? |
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| 01:29.39 | nichos | big servers take up the whole window |
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| 01:29.57 | orange | hit 's' |
| 01:30.25 | nichos | doh, didnt see it in the key bindings |
| 01:30.26 | nichos | thanks |
| 01:30.29 | orange | sure |
| 01:30.40 | corndawg | hey bryjen |
| 01:30.49 | bryjen | hi |
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| 01:37.41 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 01:41.34 | learner | nichos.. that's a neat name |
| 01:57.11 | nichos | coredumped? |
| 01:57.48 | learner | i try to segfault when I can, but thanks |
| 01:58.16 | nichos | :) |
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| 02:02.15 | learner | nice user submission.. http://bzflag.bz/screenshot/rico.png |
| 02:02.43 | Patlabor221 | 404 |
| 02:02.54 | *** part/#bzflag freakazoid (~seanl@h-67-100-214-38.snvacaid.covad.net) |
| 02:03.10 | learner | http://bzflag.bz/screenshots/rico.png |
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| 02:03.29 | JBdiGriz | The requested URL /screenshot/rico.png was not found on this server |
| 02:03.53 | learner | screenshots |
| 02:05.06 | JBdiGriz | Much better ;) |
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| 02:07.56 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o PatLabor221] by ChanServ |
| 02:09.09 | PatLabor221 | latency..... sucking... will to live................... |
| 02:09.25 | learner | :) |
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| 02:09.33 | learner | hold on .. lemme stream you some data |
| 02:09.45 | PatLabor221 | dude I can't even get that image |
| 02:09.54 | learner | eek :) |
| 02:10.04 | bryjen | wow. slow here too |
| 02:10.14 | lan56 | same here |
| 02:10.15 | PatLabor221 | november 3rd |
| 02:10.34 | Long_Lost_Guy | The day after Kerry loses. ;) |
| 02:10.39 | lan56 | indeed :) |
| 02:10.42 | lan56 | no wait |
| 02:10.49 | lan56 | the day kerry is announced he lost :) |
| 02:10.52 | blast007_ | I'm using a download manager to get the image ;) |
| 02:11.23 | Long_Lost_Guy | True, lan. :) |
| 02:12.40 | bryjen | ~nslookup bzflag.bz |
| 02:12.54 | bryjen | ~nslookup 68.33.75.29 |
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| 02:16.33 | learner | she's not moved over to her new home fully yet |
| 02:17.33 | Patlabor221 | must....not... kill.. |
| 02:17.55 | Long_Lost_Guy | Patlabor- Suicide isn't the answer. |
| 02:18.06 | Patlabor221 | wasn't going to kill me |
| 02:18.15 | Long_Lost_Guy | Oh cool. Does that mean I can? |
| 02:18.21 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 02:18.26 | lan56 | how about me? |
| 02:18.27 | lan56 | :) |
| 02:18.29 | Long_Lost_Guy | Never hurts to ask. |
| 02:18.30 | Long_Lost_Guy | :) |
| 02:18.41 | JBdiGriz | Okay, you can kill lan56 |
| 02:18.53 | lan56 | no, can i kill patlabor221? :) |
| 02:18.56 | Long_Lost_Guy | But that wouldn't be any fun. He's on dialup. |
| 02:19.03 | lan56 | since LLG can't :) |
| 02:19.19 | Patlabor221 | dialup only after 6 |
| 02:19.24 | Long_Lost_Guy | It would be a very laggy murder. ;-) |
| 02:19.34 | bryjen | whee, screenshot downloaded |
| 02:19.38 | JBdiGriz | Reminds me of the scene in psycho |
| 02:20.37 | Patlabor221 | what features Need to be supported in a 3d engine? |
| 02:22.40 | Patlabor221 | I'm making a list of MUST HAVE, SHOULD HAVE, and WOULD BE NICE features that any 3d engine should support |
| 02:22.51 | DTRemenak | Patlabor221: depends what you want to use it for, I suppose. |
| 02:23.01 | Patlabor221 | the B of the Z of the Flag |
| 02:23.10 | trepan | and it depends on how long you plan on keeping it around |
| 02:23.22 | Patlabor221 | it's more of our requirements |
| 02:23.31 | Patlabor221 | for right now |
| 02:23.59 | trepan | what's the time frame then? and how easily will it be replaced when new features are desired? |
| 02:24.29 | Patlabor221 | will what be replaced? |
| 02:24.31 | Patlabor221 | the list? |
| 02:24.35 | trepan | the engine |
| 02:24.47 | Patlabor221 | I'm not picking an engine |
| 02:24.55 | trepan | when someone decides 6 months hence that VBOs are an absolute requirement... |
| 02:24.59 | Patlabor221 | I'm identifying our current needs and escires |
| 02:25.09 | Patlabor221 | then they woudl change this list |
| 02:25.29 | Patlabor221 | and the existing engine at that time would need to be evaluated |
| 02:25.42 | DTRemenak | in that case, must have is pretty limited. platform independence, scene rendering capability, management of display contexts. |
| 02:26.06 | trepan | textures, colors, software rendering? |
| 02:26.17 | Patlabor221 | that's all thats realy on the MUST list right now |
| 02:26.30 | Patlabor221 | everything else is on the "should be" or "would be nice" |
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| 02:26.59 | trepan | also depends, are you including whatever will be in there within the next week? |
| 02:27.06 | Patlabor221 | must is |
| 02:27.06 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.06 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.06 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:27.19 | Patlabor221 | from what I see engines dont' change much |
| 02:27.29 | Patlabor221 | so are you saying this is pointless? |
| 02:27.48 | trepan | huh? you updating the wiki? |
| 02:27.57 | Patlabor221 | I am making a wiki |
| 02:28.29 | Patlabor221 | EngineSpecs |
| 02:28.38 | trepan | i don't think that simply supporting whatever is currently there is enough |
| 02:28.44 | trepan | if there were the case, why bother? |
| 02:28.46 | Patlabor221 | nor do I |
| 02:29.05 | Patlabor221 | that's why I'm adding more stuff to it :) |
| 02:29.21 | trepan | i see your naming, 'should be supported', that works for me |
| 02:29.26 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:29.42 | trepan | although, i'd move some of the 'woulds' to the 'shoulds' ;) |
| 02:29.45 | Patlabor221 | any engine to be desirable shoudl have allmost all of the "shoulds" and some of the would be nices |
| 02:29.52 | trepan | everything except DX... |
| 02:29.54 | Patlabor221 | that is why I'm making it a wiki |
| 02:30.19 | Patlabor221 | asuming I can figure out how to do thing thing |
| 02:30.59 | trepan | so you're ditching the BSD, SOlaris, Irix reqs? |
| 02:31.10 | Patlabor221 | gonna put them into a "should" part |
| 02:31.29 | Patlabor221 | under "extenable OS hooks for porting to other OSs" |
| 02:31.34 | DTRemenak | add to should be: decent API, non-ultra-long dependencies list. |
| 02:31.49 | Patlabor221 | yeah clean C++ api |
| 02:31.54 | DTRemenak | Patlabor221: leaving out IRIX would be a real bummer |
| 02:32.07 | Patlabor221 | how many clients run it these days? |
| 02:32.25 | shorty114 | what is a good free web hosting similiar to geocities, but less ads? |
| 02:32.26 | DTRemenak | Patlabor221: let me invert your question. On how many IRIX machines is it the only game? |
| 02:32.46 | Patlabor221 | and it's not saying that it could be not done on irix, just that the engine itself dosnt' have to come with irix support, it just has to have the abiltiy to be ported to work with it. |
