| 00:00.17 | Tupone | dpkg -L bzflag-1.10.4 |
| 00:00.53 | stonecarver | Nothing with locate or find |
| 00:00.59 | awright | i have a sample bzfs.conf file here |
| 00:01.17 | stonecarver | ok :) |
| 00:01.19 | awright | can i post it? it is rather large (whats new) |
| 00:01.35 | DTRemenak | awright: no...just a sec |
| 00:01.36 | stonecarver | email? |
| 00:01.45 | awright | mabye |
| 00:01.58 | DTRemenak | http://cvs.bzflag.org/viewcvs.py/bzflag/bzflag/misc/bzfs.conf |
| 00:02.03 | DTRemenak | that's the currently shipping one |
| 00:02.09 | awright | or that :) |
| 00:02.27 | Death_Barrel | anyone know the option to make it so everyone can do a /countdown on a server? |
| 00:02.44 | DTRemenak | http://cvs.bzflag.org/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/bzflag/bzflag/misc/bzfs.conf?content-type=text%2Fplain&rev=1.10 |
| 00:02.54 | DTRemenak | that's the one that came with 1.10.4, probably a better one to use |
| 00:04.07 | stonecarver | Coolness have it in Kwrite :) |
| 00:04.24 | stonecarver | thnx much :) |
| 00:04.54 | DTRemenak | n/p |
| 00:05.02 | stonecarver | I'm off to try some more thnx again :) |
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| 00:10.42 | learner | hrm.. (again) => cagain => caga + in => filtered spanish |
| 00:10.55 | Tupone | learner: :) |
| 00:11.04 | learner | and italian :) |
| 00:11.21 | JBdiGriz | okay, so explain dlike :) |
| 00:12.20 | awright | FOUND IT! http://cvs.bzflag.org/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/bzflag/bzflag/misc/bzfs_conf.html?rev=1.48 |
| 00:12.25 | awright | oh... he left |
| 00:12.38 | Tupone | learner: I did it :( |
| 00:12.40 | learner | dlike => diike => dike => filtered english or even dik + e => filtered english |
| 00:13.09 | JBdiGriz | I'% (*^& to be able to type this sentence without getting censored ;) |
| 00:13.32 | learner | yeah.. apostrophe's are special and I think I can handle them better |
| 00:13.50 | JBdiGriz | I thought it was pretty "special" |
| 00:13.50 | learner | so is (again) since that's an english suffix being applied to a foreign word |
| 00:13.51 | *** join/#bzflag demoMan (~chase@64.172.199.97) |
| 00:14.24 | JBdiGriz | The filter is more inventive than the abusers. |
| 00:14.48 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 00:14.53 | fiberchunks | hiya folkys |
| 00:14.56 | learner | it falsely matches a lot of apostrophe ones because punctuation can also be treated as a space.. spaces are word boundaries so people can't do things like ```damn``` you etc |
| 00:15.14 | awright | compiling with msys/mingw: |
| 00:15.21 | awright | how do you do it? |
| 00:15.22 | learner | tupone, did what? |
| 00:15.33 | Tupone | show her! |
| 00:15.49 | awright | hello? |
| 00:15.55 | Tupone | *blush* |
| 00:16.10 | learner | I've seen the filter catch just about as many suffix or l33t matches correctly as incorrectly .. it's just more noise is made on the incorrect ones :) |
| 00:16.11 | awright | awright: |
| 00:16.20 | learner | *blush* hehe |
| 00:16.34 | Tupone | rotl |
| 00:16.52 | learner | I've got a work in progress for the english suffix to foreign word part almost finished |
| 00:16.59 | DTRemenak | awright: huh? |
| 00:17.08 | Death_Barrel | anyone know the option to make it so everyone can do a /countdown on a server? |
| 00:17.39 | awright | is a bunch os stuff like this on the compiler normal? |
| 00:17.41 | awright | if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include -I../../include -D_POSIX_SOURCE -Wall -W -mcpu=i686 -O2 -ffast-math -fomit-frame-pointer -fexpensive-optimizations -fno-exceptions -MT Ping.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/Ping.Tpo" \ |
| 00:17.42 | awright | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.44 | awright | then mv " |
| 00:17.48 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 00:17.57 | learner | Death_Barrel, make the countdown permission in the default permission group |
| 00:17.58 | DTRemenak | that's normal |
| 00:18.06 | awright | just checking :) |
| 00:18.12 | Death_Barrel | where is the default permission's group? |
| 00:18.29 | demoMan | there isn't one |
| 00:18.29 | DTRemenak | you will be waiting for a while, first compile takes for freaking ever...for some reason MingW is much slower than GCC on a decent OS |
| 00:18.31 | learner | your -group file |
| 00:18.32 | demoMan | i'ts interna; |
| 00:18.33 | awright | and how long will it yake (becides a oing, long time) |
| 00:18.35 | demoMan | add one to the file |
| 00:18.46 | Death_Barrel | so i have to add Default to groupdb? |
| 00:18.48 | awright | ahh! i dislike this keyboard |
| 00:19.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 00:19.19 | DTRemenak | awright: clean compile on my mingw machine (Quad P3-Xeon 550s) takes ~2 hours, but I suspect it's only using one proc |
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| 00:19.57 | awright | k |
| 00:20.27 | awright | meanwhile, i'll contune programming :) |
| 00:20.32 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 00:20.37 | learner | Death_Barrel, yeah, you should already have a DEFAULT group in your groupdb file, yes? |
| 00:20.52 | awright | not bzflag, im a webdeveloper |
| 00:20.55 | learner | you'll need to add COUNTDOWN as a perm to that group (in addition to the others |
| 00:20.59 | DTRemenak | awww |
| 00:21.18 | awright | i wouldnt know a single thing about C++, although i know a little C |
| 00:21.43 | orchid | ElectricElf: poke |
| 00:21.51 | DTRemenak | C++ is just C with classes and the STL |
| 00:21.58 | DTRemenak | and the STL makes things easier |
| 00:22.17 | awright | can you do it in a regluar text editor? |
| 00:22.22 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 00:22.44 | awright | how bout graphical programs? |
| 00:22.47 | DTRemenak | although real IDEs are nice, for syntax highlighting if nothing else |
| 00:22.58 | awright | i see |
| 00:23.18 | awright | know of any really good IDE's, open source, mabye? |
| 00:23.29 | DTRemenak | dev-c++ works nicely as an IDE on windows |
| 00:23.50 | awright | hmm... i'l think about it :) |
| 00:23.55 | DTRemenak | I have been unable to get it to compile BZFlag itself though; use it for editing and MSYS for compiling |
| 00:25.27 | awright | i see! |
| 00:26.17 | awright | well, i am really busy right now... i have my own project on sf.net right now. its programmed in PHP. |
| 00:26.31 | awright | i play bzflag to get away from it :) |
| 00:26.38 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
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| 00:34.25 | lfranchi | is there any way to change the key bindings? |
| 00:34.35 | learner | lfranchi yes |
| 00:34.42 | lfranchi | learner: how do you? |
| 00:34.49 | learner | they are mostly all configurable |
| 00:34.54 | learner | there's a config file |
| 00:34.59 | lfranchi | oh ok |
| 00:35.02 | lfranchi | what is it called? |
| 00:35.06 | learner | depending on your OS, it's in different places |
| 00:35.16 | lfranchi | im on gentoo linux |
| 00:35.18 | michaelhhh | plus the key mapping menu |
| 00:35.24 | michaelhhh | obviously |
| 00:35.26 | [dmp] | learner: when i update the danish lang files, should i send it to someone, or just commit it? |
| 00:35.27 | JBdiGriz | there is a reset to defaults on the key binding menu |
| 00:35.32 | lfranchi | so im guessing either /usr/share/bzflag or /usg/games/bzflag? |
| 00:36.27 | learner | lfranchi: ~/.bzf/config |
| 00:36.39 | learner | they are per user |
| 00:36.53 | learner | [dmp], do you have commit access? |
| 00:37.09 | learner | if you do, just commit it |
| 00:37.12 | [dmp] | im not sure. |
| 00:37.24 | learner | do you check out anonymous or not? :) |
| 00:37.36 | [dmp] | One thing is to have access, the other is if im supposed to |
| 00:37.47 | [dmp] | I dont use anon access |
| 00:37.52 | [dmp] | i wasnt |
| 00:37.59 | [dmp] | sf dosnt like me |
| 00:38.34 | awright | Compiler error with MinGW/MSYS: |
| 00:38.38 | awright | .o `test -f 'WinPlatformFactory.cxx' || echo './'`WinPlatformFactory.cxx; \ |
| 00:38.40 | awright | then mv ".deps/WinPlatformFactory.Tpo" ".deps/WinPlatformFactory.Po"; \ |
| 00:38.42 | awright | else rm -f ".deps/WinPlatformFactory.Tpo"; exit 1; \ |
| 00:38.44 | awright | fi |
| 00:38.45 | awright | In file included from WinPlatformFactory.cxx:19: |
| 00:38.47 | awright | WinMedia.h:21:20: dsound.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:38.48 | awright | In file included from WinPlatformFactory.cxx:19: |
| 00:38.50 | awright | WinMedia.h:52: syntax error before `*' token |
| 00:38.51 | awright | WinMedia.h:53: syntax error before `*' token |
| 00:38.53 | awright | WinMedia.h:54: syntax error before `*' token |
| 00:38.54 | awright | make[3]: *** [WinPlatformFactory.o] Error 1 |
| 00:38.56 | awright | make[3]: Leaving directory `/bzf/bzflag1/src/platform' |
| 00:38.57 | awright | make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 00:38.59 | awright | make[2]: Leaving directory `/bzf/bzflag1/src/platform' |
| 00:39.00 | awright | make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 00:39.02 | awright | make[1]: Leaving directory `/bzf/bzflag1/src' |
| 00:39.03 | learner | eek |
| 00:39.03 | awright | make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 00:39.05 | awright | can anyone hwlp? |
| 00:39.19 | Death_Barrel | how do i use a map that someone sends me? |
| 00:39.20 | learner | awright, if it's more than 5 lines, don't paste here - paste in #flood |
| 00:39.42 | awright | ok. |
| 00:39.52 | learner | but the error is that you are missing a header file it's expecting |
| 00:39.56 | learner | dsound.h |
| 00:40.04 | awright | thats what i thought |
| 00:40.07 | learner | [dmp], don't follow you, what do you mean? |
| 00:40.34 | learner | if you don't use anon, then you can commit |
| 00:40.56 | DTRemenak | awright: that's covered in README.MINGW32 :) |
| 00:41.03 | awright | okay, thanks |
| 00:41.06 | DTRemenak | troubleshooting section is at the bottom |
| 00:41.15 | DTRemenak | basically you need a couple files from the DirectX SDK |
| 00:41.17 | learner | understandably |
| 00:41.25 | awright | link? |
| 00:41.37 | DTRemenak | http://download.microsoft.com |
| 00:41.42 | DTRemenak | search for directx sdk |
| 00:41.44 | learner | heh |
| 00:41.48 | DTRemenak | it's big |
| 00:41.51 | Tupone | awright: why not getting SDL? |
| 00:41.55 | patlabor221 | 190 megsish |
| 00:41.58 | DTRemenak | or use SDL |
| 00:42.01 | learner | eww.. all of direct x just for sound.. bah |
| 00:42.01 | patlabor221 | yeah or do SDL |
| 00:42.13 | awright | SDL looks big and confusing :) |
| 00:42.21 | DTRemenak | SDL is small and confusing |
| 00:42.22 | learner | what does sdl do for sound? |
| 00:42.24 | patlabor221 | dx is sued for more then sound |
| 00:42.32 | DTRemenak | who sued dx? |
| 00:42.38 | patlabor221 | your mamma |
| 00:42.39 | learner | :) |
| 00:43.00 | learner | ms is sued for a lot more than dx ;) |
| 00:43.07 | awright | LOL |
| 00:43.28 | [dmp] | learner: that cvs is slow :) Im tired, should get to bed instead of puzzling people |
| 00:43.35 | patlabor221 | I hate this keyboard |
| 00:43.49 | DTRemenak | so get a different one :) |
| 00:43.59 | patlabor221 | I have one |
| 00:44.00 | learner | [dmp], it's early! :) |
| 00:44.05 | DTRemenak | plug it in :) |
| 00:44.05 | patlabor221 | masice hardware change today |
| 00:44.12 | learner | not even daylight yet |
| 00:44.12 | patlabor221 | can't till I finish the main |
| 00:44.17 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 00:44.31 | patlabor221 | new cases and all kinds of stuff now :) |
| 00:44.37 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 00:45.12 | learner | no more jumping =) |
| 00:45.27 | learner | it's like massive ducati |
| 00:47.33 | [dmp] | learner: Not when you're tired, and want to sleep. Dont break my deams of getting a good night sleep :) |
| 00:49.10 | [dmp] | I liked valentino very much, but it have been kinda dead the past few days |
| 00:49.21 | fiberchunks | If a man can deem, to have dreams of reams, then shouldn't a man dream ream dream cream? |
| 00:49.39 | fiberchunks | *dream cream ream dreams, that is :) |
| 00:50.17 | awright | "not even daylight yet" hmmm... sun just fell where i live |
| 00:50.27 | Death_Barrel | learner: you got a min man? |
| 00:51.51 | [dmp] | Death_Barrel: carnage is/was looking for you |
| 00:51.59 | Death_Barrel | yeah |
| 00:52.04 | Death_Barrel | i am talking to him now |
| 00:52.16 | Death_Barrel | can someone help me with an ffa bzfs |
| 00:54.03 | Death_Barrel | [dmp], you know anything about setting up an ffa server with bzfs? |
| 00:54.46 | [dmp] | Death_Barrel: never tried it but wouldnt except it to be hard |
| 00:55.08 | Death_Barrel | i don't know crap about setting up an ffa server i just need to know what options would be good |
| 00:55.19 | Death_Barrel | somthing is weird about the way i have it now |
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| 00:55.49 | havoc_ | someone wants to play 1vs1? |
| 00:57.11 | orchid | hsvoc were you just on quols server? |
| 00:57.38 | orchid | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.32 | [dmp] | Death_Barrel: there is a text in the wiki about bzfs .. |
| 00:58.46 | Death_Barrel | yeah |
| 00:58.50 | Death_Barrel | i read the man page |
| 00:59.00 | Death_Barrel | i just not sure what i should and shouldn't use to make it good |
| 00:59.01 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 01:03.50 | havoc_ | nyup |
| 01:04.18 | havoc_ | but it was boring |
| 01:04.29 | havoc_ | cuz it was too easy |
| 01:04.33 | havoc_ | lol |
| 01:04.55 | orchid | havoc_: you lag there was awful |
| 01:05.03 | orchid | but your in Montreal also? |
| 01:05.08 | havoc_ | yeah |
| 01:05.10 | orchid | hmm |
| 01:05.12 | havoc_ | u? |
| 01:05.16 | orchid | toronto |
| 01:05.18 | havoc_ | k |
| 01:05.29 | orchid | your on sympatico dsl? |
| 01:05.39 | havoc_ | yeah |
| 01:05.55 | orchid | i dont understand how you can have 290ms lag to a server in montreal |
| 01:06.11 | havoc_ | is it normal? |
| 01:06.16 | orchid | no |
| 01:06.18 | havoc_ | k |
| 01:06.32 | orchid | my lag to the same server is 22ms |
| 01:06.42 | orchid | and im not even in Montreal |
| 01:06.47 | havoc_ | and dsl sympatico? |
| 01:06.54 | CIA-5 | 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/README.MINGW32: More details for compiling on MingW32. Try to organize readme in a sensible way. |
| 01:07.03 | orchid | no, magma, its also dsl using bell's lines |
| 01:07.14 | havoc_ | its better? |
| 01:07.22 | orchid | i think so yes |
| 01:07.33 | havoc_ | mayce cuz of that |
| 01:07.45 | orchid | do you lag on other servers? |
| 01:07.53 | orchid | or just that one? |
| 01:07.54 | havoc_ | sometimes |
| 01:08.10 | havoc_ | sometimes in quol 59998 |
| 01:08.31 | orchid | yes |
| 01:08.44 | havoc_ | ok... |
| 01:08.51 | havoc_ | so wana play? |
| 01:09.06 | orchid | no, i cant right now |
| 01:09.09 | havoc_ | k |
| 01:09.18 | havoc_ | anyone wanna play?? |
| 01:09.32 | orchid | try asking in #bzleague |
| 01:09.37 | havoc_ | ]ok |
| 01:09.39 | havoc_ | ok |
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| 01:11.15 | havoc_ | cya |
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| 01:39.35 | purple_cow | mmm, pickles |
| 01:44.14 | JBdiGriz | learner was having a lot of fun dilling pickles :) |
| 01:44.34 | learner | :) |
| 01:44.37 | scanline | the #twisted folks laughed at my idea of a transparently selfdecompressing pickle :( |
| 01:45.04 | purple_cow | :( |
| 01:45.08 | JBdiGriz | they laugh now, but wait until they are faced with it :) |
| 01:45.14 | learner | purple_cow, decks tonight? |
| 01:45.21 | purple_cow | learner: hmmm! |
| 01:45.25 | jacques | mmmm decks |
| 01:45.28 | purple_cow | ooh, scanline, learner wins |
| 01:45.35 | purple_cow | i've got -seven- copies of him in my completion buffer |
| 01:45.35 | JBdiGriz | Look inside Mr. scanline, what do you see? |
| 01:45.38 | scanline | who what now? |
| 01:45.38 | purple_cow | whereas you're still at 5 |
| 01:45.39 | scanline | ooooh |
| 01:45.44 | learner | who what now? |
| 01:45.52 | scanline | JBdiGriz: green? |
| 01:46.10 | learner | 7 times even |
| 01:46.50 | scanline | mmmmmm |
| 01:46.52 | scanline | http://navi.cx/images/chaos/fun-with-alpha-3.png |
| 01:47.16 | learner | OOooo.. purdy |
| 01:49.49 | fiberchunks | that'd make a nice tattoo, if you could get the tat resolution high enough ;) |
| 01:49.56 | fawn | http://percym.bakadigital.com/newdesk.png <- more purdy |
| 01:50.11 | scanline | http://navi.cx/images/chaos/tangled-embrace.png |
| 01:50.32 | scanline | heh, these are a little big as PNGs... |
| 01:50.52 | fawn | png pwnz ^_^ |
| 01:51.03 | fiberchunks | kinda looks like a surreal version of the god and whatever painting (the two hands, fingertips touching part) |
| 01:51.11 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/images/chaos/tn/13-b.png.html <-- even yet purdier |
| 01:51.18 | scanline | yeah.. the cool part about the PNGs you can save in Fyre is that it includes an extra chunk with all the image parameters, so you can load it back in and edit it more |
| 01:51.32 | scanline | ooh yeah, good ol' 13-b |
| 01:51.54 | scanline | what a neat little program |
| 01:51.55 | purple_cow | eek |
| 01:51.56 | scanline | s/little// |
| 01:51.57 | purple_cow | internal server error |
| 01:53.19 | scanline | guess php is another thing that went down with the old apache config? |
| 01:53.31 | purple_cow | looks like it |
| 01:54.17 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 01:55.16 | scanline | yay, back in xchat-gnome |
| 01:55.38 | purple_cow | funky |
| 01:55.45 | purple_cow | i don't see why php isn't working :P |
| 01:56.03 | fiberchunks | any of you developer wizards have resources linkage for 3d terminology listed and handy that I could peruse? (ex. quaternion, BSP, octree, etc) |
| 01:56.30 | purple_cow | hmm, nope |
| 01:56.31 | scanline | [Fri Apr 09 19:59:50 2004] [alert] [client 10.0.0.51] /home/httpd/htdocs/gallery/.htaccess: Invalid command 'php_value', perhaps mis-sp |
| 01:56.31 | scanline | elled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration, referer: http://fyre.navi.cx/ |
| 01:56.35 | scanline | that? |
| 01:56.41 | purple_cow | but if you need definitions for specific words, that we can answer :) |
| 01:56.47 | purple_cow | scanline: yeah. the config looks right |
| 01:56.56 | fiberchunks | heh, I don't wanna hassle you all on a constant basis :) |
| 01:57.05 | scanline | ah yeah... |
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| 01:57.38 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
| 01:57.48 | purple_cow | fiberchunks: well, it's not much of a bother |
| 01:57.56 | scanline | purple_cow: I don't think we have -DPHP4 |
| 01:58.42 | purple_cow | ah, hmm |
| 01:58.43 | scanline | yay, works now |
| 01:58.55 | purple_cow | hooray |
| 01:59.19 | scanline | /etc/conf.d/apache2 is your friend, in gentoo at least |
| 01:59.41 | purple_cow | ah, neat |
| 02:00.02 | scanline | hrm |
| 02:00.04 | fiberchunks | purple_cow, I appreciate that :) |
| 02:00.21 | scanline | oops |
| 02:00.39 | purple_cow | scanline: you updated? |
| 02:00.46 | scanline | purple_cow: yeah |
| 02:01.11 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 02:01.15 | scanline | purple_cow: well, I updated, recompiled, reinstalled.. noticed evan's hotkeys weren't working, then looked at the date on my xchat-gnome binary |
| 02:01.23 | purple_cow | heh |
| 02:01.29 | scanline | so apparently it updated the icons and such, but nothing else :P |
| 02:01.37 | scanline | but deleting all the plugins makes it not crash on startup :) |
| 02:02.00 | purple_cow | so now the question is whether fawn is really running plan9 or just 9wm with a p9 background :) |
| 02:02.48 | JBdiGriz | someone is really running plan 9? |
| 02:03.09 | purple_cow | scanline: hmm, i just realized something |
| 02:03.12 | purple_cow | we have coffee now ;-) |
| 02:03.20 | scanline | oh no! |
| 02:05.01 | purple_cow | so |
| 02:05.10 | purple_cow | you should make some :) |
| 02:10.08 | purple_cow | gr |
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| 02:58.14 | learner | jolly! |
| 02:58.29 | jolly | hi :) |
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