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| 00:12.12 | gg_ | BATTLE |
| 00:12.32 | gg_ | .nick dabom |
| 00:12.51 | gg_ | BATTLE |
| 00:13.08 | fhffhqvb | /nick smaz.y_boczek |
| 00:13.32 | gg_ | lol |
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| 00:37.24 | bDerrly | would someone mind helping me figure out why bzflag never runs on my box? i've downloaded several slackware packages and even tried from source a couple of times to get bzflag running and it never works. i get to the menu screen and the keyboard doesn't operate, i have to switch to console and `killall bzflag' it |
| 00:38.04 | scanline | do other 3D games work? |
| 00:38.09 | bDerrly | yep, just fine |
| 00:38.20 | bDerrly | does bzflag need glut? |
| 00:38.27 | scanline | don't think so |
| 00:38.34 | bDerrly | mesa? |
| 00:38.45 | scanline | well, mesa is an OpenGL implementation |
| 00:38.47 | DemolitionMan | it just needs some sorta GL, mesa or otherwiese |
| 00:38.50 | scanline | and bzflag needs GL and GLU |
| 00:39.12 | bDerrly | /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so |
| 00:39.22 | bDerrly | /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLU.so |
| 00:39.25 | bDerrly | err |
| 00:39.39 | bDerrly | /usr/lib/libGLU.so |
| 00:39.39 | bDerrly | /usr/lib/libGL.so |
| 00:39.47 | scanline | try running 'glxinfo' |
| 00:39.48 | bDerrly | so i have GL and GLU |
| 00:40.05 | bDerrly | alright |
| 00:40.07 | DemolitionMan | if it gets to the menu and draws something then you probably hve GL |
| 00:40.17 | DemolitionMan | you probably have an X focus issue |
| 00:40.22 | bDerrly | yeah, it draws everything fine, i just can't navigate menus |
| 00:40.23 | scanline | DemolitionMan: well, if it's really slow GL it might appear to hang :) |
| 00:40.30 | DemolitionMan | true |
| 00:40.32 | scanline | ah |
| 00:40.40 | scanline | could be something weird about your window manager |
| 00:40.50 | bDerrly | it shouldn't be slow, i can run half-life, enemy-territor, etc just fine |
| 00:40.52 | DemolitionMan | you can also try runingin it with -window -geometry 800x600 |
| 00:40.53 | bDerrly | hrmm |
| 00:40.58 | bDerrly | lets try that |
| 00:41.05 | DemolitionMan | that usualy helps people with focus issues |
| 00:41.28 | bDerrly | yeah, now it works |
| 00:41.39 | scanline | when I run it, it spans across both monitors, which isn't quite what I want :) |
| 00:41.39 | bDerrly | hrmm, so how do i fix this focus issue? |
| 00:41.43 | DemolitionMan | what video card you have? |
| 00:41.58 | DemolitionMan | it's often caused by the screen res switch call |
| 00:41.59 | bDerrly | geforce2 pro |
| 00:42.12 | DemolitionMan | you running the nvidia drivers from nvidia? |
| 00:42.17 | bDerrly | yep |
| 00:42.24 | DemolitionMan | dono then |
| 00:42.27 | bDerrly | heh |
| 00:42.37 | DemolitionMan | your X is not liking to return focus after the res swap |
| 00:43.09 | DemolitionMan | as a workaround you can allways run -window -geometry with your screen size |
| 00:43.23 | bDerrly | yeah |
| 00:43.27 | bDerrly | i guess i'll have to do that |
| 00:43.39 | bDerrly | thanks guys |
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| 02:33.21 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: hey, probably should update apt's database from dpkg... its kind of stale. |
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| 02:33.35 | dondelelcaro | TimRiker: dpkg's factoids are at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ |
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| 03:25.01 | DemolitionMan | poor cia |
| 03:49.54 | scanline | heh |
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| 04:54.28 | MrApathyCream | w00t! |
| 04:54.34 | MrApathyCream | have you had much merryment? |
| 04:54.52 | learner | a plenty, though bz-less merryment |
| 04:55.14 | learner | were you filled with holiday cheer? |
| 04:56.48 | MrApathyCream | and eggnog |
| 04:56.54 | learner | Mmmmmm... |
| 04:57.06 | scanline | mmm... |
| 04:57.16 | scanline | holiday cheer, eggnog, same thing |
| 04:57.32 | fhffhqvb | eat, sleep, barf, eat, etc? |
| 04:58.19 | MrApathyCream | yag |
| 04:58.21 | MrApathyCream | er, yah |
| 05:04.32 | fhffhqvb | i got 3 p2-266's to play with |
| 05:11.08 | TimRiker | dondelelcaro: nod. having conversion issues. new apt is sqlite, old was mysql. |
| 05:14.06 | learner | ~bzflist |
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| 05:50.57 | learner | woo hoo |
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| 05:59.37 | militesente | hello people |
| 05:59.45 | learner | hola persona |
| 06:00.05 | militesente | i was wondering whether linux 2.6 will improve bzflag performance |
| 06:00.16 | militesente | somewhat |
| 06:00.24 | learner | heh |
| 06:00.32 | militesente | is it noticeable? |
| 06:00.46 | purple_cow | bzflag performance is based on system performance |
| 06:01.03 | purple_cow | the preempt stuff can help a bit with responsiveness |
| 06:01.08 | militesente | let me say that i can't really listen to mp3s and play bzflag at 800x600 with minimum nice effects |
| 06:01.14 | learner | I'd highly doubt it will be any "noticeable" improvement in terms a gaming.. maybe a few frames/sec -- but more likely just better time sharing |
| 06:01.30 | militesente | (i have a piii 550 mhz) |
| 06:01.56 | purple_cow | i think the only way you'd really notice is if you run some more-serious batch jobs |
| 06:02.18 | militesente | yes, as listening to mp3s |
| 06:02.46 | purple_cow | mp3 decoding isn't a very intensive operation |
| 06:03.02 | militesente | i need vivaldi when killing tanks |
| 06:03.14 | militesente | purple_cow, it is, believe me |
| 06:03.50 | militesente | purple_cow, i noticed that i loose 1/2 fps if i play mp3 while playing bzflag |
| 06:03.53 | purple_cow | depends on your player, i suppose |
| 06:04.26 | militesente | hmmm a player is always a player..they use the same lame library.. |
| 06:04.58 | purple_cow | well - for example, xmms is a beast compared with mpg321 or madplay |
| 06:05.21 | triclops | mpg321 ? |
| 06:05.25 | militesente | yes |
| 06:05.33 | triclops | mpg123 maybe |
| 06:05.34 | militesente | opensource version of mg123 |
| 06:05.38 | triclops | oh |
| 06:06.17 | militesente | tell the truth you have always used mpg123 thinking it was open source! |
| 06:07.07 | purple_cow | well - mpg123 is technically "open-source"/ its just not nearly as open a license |
| 06:07.45 | triclops | hehe, well i didn't care to be honest. open source, closed source. The difference is negligable when you don't have to pay for it or modify the source. |
| 06:08.04 | purple_cow | yup |
| 06:08.54 | triclops | unless you prefer to support only open source with GNU compatible licences |
| 06:31.38 | DemolitionMan | ~sgl |
| 06:37.10 | DemolitionMan | is there a word for a race that is larger then a marathon? |
| 06:37.28 | purple_cow | there's a century |
| 06:37.41 | purple_cow | but those are usually cycling/ not running |
| 06:38.09 | DemolitionMan | never have heard of that |
| 06:38.16 | DemolitionMan | is that how long you ride for? :) |
| 06:38.28 | purple_cow | its 100mi or 100km |
| 06:38.38 | DemolitionMan | thats a long ways |
| 06:38.44 | purple_cow | yup |
| 07:16.35 | MrApathyCream | anyone have any experience with new spawn stuff (good or bad)? |
| 07:22.22 | fhffhqvb | new since when? |
| 07:26.48 | |tim| | Someone spawned in my base yesterday :\ |
| 07:39.00 | MrApathyCream | 12/27 |
| 07:39.06 | MrApathyCream | |tim| in? |
| 07:39.25 | |tim| | 10.0.2 |
| 07:39.37 | MrApathyCream | oh, ok, not my code then :) |
| 07:39.45 | MrApathyCream | this would be 10.0.3 |
| 07:39.50 | MrApathyCream | er 1.10.3 |
| 07:39.59 | |tim| | ah |
| 08:24.22 | |tim| | hehe :) |
| 08:26.59 | ninjer_proton | MrApathyCream: hacking up some patches for someone else's stupid game :) |
| 08:34.01 | MrApathyCream | really! |
| 08:34.07 | MrApathyCream | i hope it's our stupid game! |
| 08:36.29 | fhffhqvb | hm quantum fireballs. they went all out on these things |
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| 08:38.58 | |tim| | In CSS would something like - "target: blank" so a link could open in a new window? |
| 08:43.45 | MrApathyCream | i think it's _blank |
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| 09:34.19 | fhffhqvb | are you supposed to install something extra to get opengl on win98? |
| 09:38.44 | Pimpinella | maybe u should try a operating system instead of win9x ;) |
| 09:40.20 | fhffhqvb | yes, that was constructive support, thank you for not actually answering my question, Pimpinella. |
| 09:40.53 | Pimpinella | SCNR |
| 09:41.08 | Pimpinella | :) |
| 09:41.14 | fhffhqvb | PIG |
| 09:41.24 | |tim| | OoOo |
| 09:41.51 | fhffhqvb | :-| |
| 09:45.28 | fhffhqvb | ~kill diamond |
| 09:45.30 | | ACTION slits diamond's throat |
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| 13:00.07 | fontenot | latest bzflag-1.10.2.20031223 - starting it my screen goes black (can still see pointer) bzflag taking 100% CPU and that's it |
| 13:00.37 | fontenot | ah, looks like just bad behavior |
| 13:01.05 | fontenot | tho I would think if it cant find a font it needs it should exit instead of causing me to go to another machine and remotely kill it |
| 13:02.31 | Chestal | it should, it detects the error, but obviously does not clean up properly |
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| 17:27.56 | Chestal | someone alive who knows about world weapons? |
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| 17:31.59 | DemolitionMan | they shoot |
| 17:32.14 | DemolitionMan | all inteval based |
| 17:33.34 | Chestal | hi learner, I need you :-) |
| 17:33.50 | Chestal | Demolition: yes, but I need to know how it works internally |
| 17:34.00 | learner | heh |
| 17:34.21 | Chestal | do WorldWeapon shots have shooter id set to ServerPlayer? |
| 17:34.52 | learner | that sounds correct, but I'm not positive -- you need MAC :-) |
| 17:34.56 | DemolitionMan | yes I seem to recall Mac mentioning it |
| 17:35.21 | Chestal | so, when a player gets hit, the MsgKill it sends would have ServerPlayer as the killer? |
| 17:35.31 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): ws |
| 17:35.34 | learner | yes |
| 17:35.49 | Chestal | serverplayer is 253 |
| 17:35.58 | Chestal | does bzfs create a player at index 253? |
| 17:36.15 | Chestal | otherwise, playerKilled() in bzfs does not do enough checks |
| 17:36.41 | Chestal | I was in the process of cleaning up some other stuff there and now I have my doubts |
| 17:37.16 | learner | i thought bzfs checked if player was serverplayer then do whatever, otherwise, lookup index (but again, I could be mistaken -- have to read source) |
| 17:38.13 | Chestal | there is: if (killerIndex < 0 || killerIndex >= curMaxPlayers) return |
| 17:38.31 | Chestal | so it looks like it would ignore kills by world weapons |
| 17:38.46 | learner | which routine? |
| 17:38.55 | Chestal | playerKilled |
| 17:39.33 | learner | that could be a new "bug" introduced recently by tupone's extra checks |
| 17:39.41 | Chestal | not really |
| 17:39.58 | Chestal | if it would pass that test, there still should be extra handling for server |
| 17:40.04 | Chestal | it might work by accident, though |
| 17:40.19 | Chestal | because serverplayer is 253 and Ithink the player[] array is big enough and that slot will never be used otherwise |
| 17:40.23 | Chestal | but I doubt that this is by design |
| 17:40.39 | Chestal | and it will contain random info about team etc. |
| 17:41.34 | Chestal | let us think what should happen. victim cannever be server, only killer |
| 17:41.42 | Chestal | it can never be a tamkill |
| 17:42.06 | Chestal | if killer=server, it will always be -1 for victim and -1 for victim's team (unless rogue/rabbit) |
| 17:42.57 | Chestal | it doesn't really fit in very well |
| 17:43.04 | Chestal | too many special cases here and there :-( |
| 17:43.17 | Chestal | I need MAC |
| 17:44.03 | Chestal | is there a server with world weapons online? We coudl test, if you get killed, I should never see it |
| 17:44.12 | learner | i was just going to ask that |
| 17:45.13 | Chestal | cool, there is a single shot server online |
| 17:45.43 | Chestal | hmm, no server's descriptions hints at world weapons |
| 17:47.08 | learner | they did work whether by accident or design, so if they are broken now it's one of the bounds checks that were added |
| 17:48.20 | Chestal | I could add some checks, but what to send in MsgScore? |
| 17:48.40 | Chestal | would have to check whether the client works all right with serverplayer in there |
| 17:48.53 | Chestal | but I'd feel better if I would know what MAC's intention was |
| 17:49.12 | Chestal | this started because I am fixing a bug in MAC's new respawn code, his team check is wrong |
| 17:49.17 | DemolitionMan | just have the world player allways show up with a score in the score list, and call it "your mamma" :) |
| 17:49.28 | DemolitionMan | or "god" |
| 17:50.02 | Chestal | I'd fire up a test server if I knew how to defien a world weapon |
| 17:50.07 | Chestal | too lazy to look for docs :-) |
| 17:50.27 | learner | heh, there are no such docs other than the source right now, iirc |
| 17:50.42 | learner | might be able to do a saveworld, though |
| 17:51.35 | Chestal | but save what world? If I knew a server with world weapons,I wouldn't need to start my own |
| 17:51.59 | Nidhoggr | with a rabbit style game, does the server have to restart between games? |
| 17:52.28 | Chestal | hmm? I gues what you are really asking is: does the server haveto restart between games when MaxScore is set |
| 17:52.39 | Nidhoggr | something like that :) |
| 17:52.51 | Chestal | I never tried that, but judging from timed games it shoudl auto-reset as soon as all players leave |
| 17:52.59 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 17:53.14 | Nidhoggr | I guess I'll have to do a timed game.. you can never trust people to just leave. |
| 17:53.31 | Chestal | you'll have the same problem there |
| 17:53.39 | Chestal | time elapsed -> game over until everyone leaves |
| 17:53.39 | Nidhoggr | why's that? |
| 17:53.43 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 17:54.01 | Chestal | usually they do because it's kinda boring just to sit there dead |
| 17:54.06 | Nidhoggr | how do people make servers just die then with rotating servers? |
| 17:54.50 | Nidhoggr | it's more like a /shutdownserver |
| 17:55.01 | Nidhoggr | than a timed game... although the timer is running. |
| 17:55.02 | Chestal | there is -g: serve one game and exit |
| 17:55.07 | Chestal | not sure when it exits, though |
| 17:55.15 | Nidhoggr | ah... that'd work. |
| 17:55.39 | Nidhoggr | I have the rotation script thanks to bzgirl |
| 17:55.40 | Chestal | we should add some time after which everyone gets autobooted when game is over |
| 17:55.48 | Nidhoggr | that's a good idea. |
| 17:56.12 | Nidhoggr | you can get some people that pause and walk away.. can be annoying. |
| 17:56.24 | Nidhoggr | going to set up rabbit hunt with basement map on dragon.org |
| 17:56.29 | learner | hrm.. I don't see any world-weapon-enabled servers up |
| 17:57.36 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (TODO): autoboot when game has been over for some time |
| 17:57.48 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 17:58.04 | Chestal | bzfs has documentation on world weapons |
| 17:58.12 | learner | any idea how I can tell in menus.cxx when the client is really done listening for server replies from the list server? |
| 17:58.21 | Chestal | I'll try |
| 17:58.25 | Nidhoggr | and what do I tweak to change the theif flag timeout in bzfs? |
| 17:58.36 | learner | checkEchos is re-entered over and over |
| 17:58.59 | Chestal | _thiefDropTime I guess |
| 17:59.45 | learner | Nidhoggr: add a var settings fie |
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| 18:00.15 | learner | -vars bzfs option |
| 18:00.27 | Nidhoggr | cool |
| 18:00.32 | learner | set _variableName value |
| 18:00.57 | learner | create a file with "set var value" lines in it, and use that with the -vars option |
| 18:01.32 | Chestal | can someone please join ducati 59777 |
| 18:03.36 | DemolitionMan | yeah let me update |
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| 18:09.39 | DemolitionMan | wow and I thought .net built slow |
| 18:15.44 | Chestal | need a testy on ducati 59777 again |
| 18:16.05 | DemolitionMan | ohh I was just there |
| 18:16.06 | DemolitionMan | one sec |
| 18:16.17 | Chestal | ok |
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| 18:17.18 | DemolitionMan | it would not let me respawn |
| 18:17.25 | Chestal | yes, ok |
| 18:17.39 | Chestal | please join once more |
| 18:18.35 | Chestal | ok |
| 18:21.47 | Chestal | one more test please |
| 18:21.52 | RuFiToS | k |
| 18:23.22 | Chestal | hi Tupone |
| 18:23.36 | Tupone | hi Chestal |
| 18:23.39 | Chestal | Tupone: I don't think you can help with the internals of world weapons, with respect to MsgKilled msgs? |
| 18:24.24 | Tupone | I don't think I can now, cause I'm not home, but could be? Just ask |
| 18:25.44 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): move friend/foe check to a function of its own; use it in proximitycheck() and playerKilled(); rewrite playerKilled() a little |
| 18:25.53 | Chestal | problem is that at least the server does not handle those kills correctly |
| 18:26.06 | Chestal | it ignores the MsgKilled msgs because the killerIndex is <0 |
| 18:26.27 | Chestal | actually, I would have assumed that the index is -3 aka 253 aka ServerPlayer, but it tusn out to be -1? |
| 18:26.27 | Tupone | Oh! Could be my Sanity check? |
| 18:26.38 | Chestal | Tupone: yes, but if it ever worked before it was by accident |
| 18:26.50 | Chestal | the server just takes the index as it is without further checks |
| 18:27.08 | Chestal | if world weapons have a special index, it must be checked in server and handled accordingly |
| 18:27.26 | Chestal | anyway, I did some other changes to that code, so I noticed. The bug is the same as it was before my commit |
| 18:27.45 | Tupone | I remember that the team id or group id of that shot is -1 |
| 18:28.24 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): world weapon bug |
| 18:28.59 | Tupone | I'll check it when at home |
| 18:30.35 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): add to FIXME for world weapon bug |
| 18:42.35 | Nidhoggr | is there a list of all the vars that you can set? |
| 18:43.43 | Tupone | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.53 | Nidhoggr | I'll try that. :) |
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| 19:10.00 | tapo | oh hell, they do not understand rabbit style. please make the default rabbit style team colour "not rogue"... |
| 19:12.11 | tapo | bzflag attracts people who do not think |
| 19:12.17 | tapo | that? |
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| 19:29.34 | travisbemann | does anyone have a clue about teleporter face numbering? |
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| 19:35.36 | strayer | hiho :o) |
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| 19:52.22 | travisbemann | to repeat, does anyone have a clue about teleporter face numbering? |
| 19:54.10 | orchid | travisbemann: you mean in map making? how to number them? |
| 19:55.39 | travisbemann | yeah |
| 19:55.52 | travisbemann | well, what i mean is how the numbers are assigned to each face of a teleporter |
| 19:56.20 | orchid | are you using text editor or bzedit to make your map? |
| 19:56.43 | travisbemann | i'm using a text editor for testing, but in the end i'm planning on actually using scripts to automatically generate maps |
| 19:57.01 | travisbemann | (rather than putting maps together by hand in text OR with bzedit) |
| 19:57.18 | Chestal | hi orchid |
| 19:57.48 | orchid | hi ches |
| 19:58.34 | orchid | travisbemann: i never did much with teleporters in my maps, but you could download an existing map and examine it? |
| 19:58.35 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): improve spawning |
| 19:58.46 | Chestal | orchid: already back? |
| 19:58.49 | travisbemann | my main thing is that i haven't figured out a systematic pattern to teleporter face number assignment besides they are assigned in pairs starting from zero |
| 19:59.06 | travisbemann | with the first teleporter getting the first pair and so on |
| 19:59.28 | orchid | Chestal: nope, im flying home tonight |
| 20:00.57 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (TODO): more info on spawning |
| 20:13.29 | fiberchunks | travisbemann: iirc, the teleporter link assignments have to come directly after the teleporter definition in the map file |
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| 20:15.34 | Chestal | ~bzflist |
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| 20:20.35 | DemolitionMan | yes you shuld put the links after the porters that they use |
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| 21:10.42 | tapo | travisbemann: still here? |
| 21:26.25 | travisbemann | back |
| 21:32.16 | tapo | hi |
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| 22:11.55 | Oman | HI |
| 22:12.10 | Oman | Any one willing to ref a match |
| 22:12.42 | Oman | I need someone to ref a match will anybody ref |
| 22:13.23 | Oman | If you are there Type 12345 |
| 22:13.34 | Oman | 12345 |
| 22:14.11 | |tim| | 12346 |
| 22:16.11 | RuFiToS | who will play agaist Oman? |
| 22:39.01 | david_v | hallo, is anybody up for a fun match on 59999? |
| 22:39.12 | david_v | i and daBomb and rufitos are there right now |
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| 23:33.15 | prodan | merry christmas |
| 23:35.07 | prodan | btw why is moles inactive? |
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| 23:48.13 | david_v | TLZ gave them too much of their mole-away spray i guess |