| 00:00.11 | Patlabor221 | south west bell just added a 3 meg down 384k up |
| 00:00.20 | captain_proton | and supposedly there's a way for us to cut our overhead a lot, which i'll be implementing sometime |
| 00:00.23 | Patlabor221 | for like 60ish |
| 00:00.25 | Patlabor221 | I'd do that |
| 00:00.49 | Patlabor221 | I often get more then 256 up |
| 00:00.55 | Patlabor221 | sometimes 512 |
| 00:01.20 | Patlabor221 | also my min downstream is 768 not the 384 of the lower teir |
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| 00:03.39 | Patlabor221 | they did lower my cost from 49 to 36 a month |
| 00:03.41 | Patlabor221 | so that's nice |
| 00:04.43 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I think P24 needs a FPF counter |
| 00:05.08 | Patlabor221 | and res in DPF |
| 00:05.35 | scanline | nah, you should use megapixels |
| 00:05.49 | Patlabor221 | what the hell is a megapixel anyway? |
| 00:06.02 | Patlabor221 | and I like Pixels per furlong |
| 00:06.11 | scanline | a million pixels, supposedly |
| 00:06.21 | Patlabor221 | in what arangement? |
| 00:06.38 | captain_proton | they don't say |
| 00:06.41 | scanline | it doesn't say.. that's why it's cheesy |
| 00:06.49 | captain_proton | its a way for camera manufacturers to obfuscate the real resolution |
| 00:06.59 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:07.04 | scanline | by the camera makers' argument, a 1x5000000 CCD would be really cool |
| 00:07.14 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 00:07.19 | Patlabor221 | 1d pictures |
| 00:08.27 | Patlabor221 | I just expect an average speed of 72576000 FPF |
| 00:09.10 | Patlabor221 | could get that down to 7.2 giga frames per fortnight |
| 00:10.06 | scanline | fragments per frame? |
| 00:10.14 | scanline | ah |
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| 00:10.55 | Patlabor221 | I don't think there is any way to get a fragment count in gl is there? |
| 00:12.11 | Patlabor221 | I really gotta clean out this hardware bin |
| 00:12.16 | scanline | I know I read about an extension that does that |
| 00:12.24 | Patlabor221 | scanline, or captain_proton ether of you need a sblive? |
| 00:12.35 | scanline | we could use one for wasabi :) |
| 00:12.38 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: wasabi could use one |
| 00:12.39 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:12.56 | Patlabor221 | got 2 modles |
| 00:13.05 | Patlabor221 | CT4780 |
| 00:13.16 | Patlabor221 | or SB0200 |
| 00:13.22 | Patlabor221 | tke your pic |
| 00:14.04 | Patlabor221 | or an AWE 64 |
| 00:14.22 | captain_proton | sbo200 sounds good :) |
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| 00:14.26 | BaDiN | olá |
| 00:14.29 | BaDiN | anyone to enter a score? |
| 00:14.33 | Patlabor221 | or a diamond card, looks to be a ESS maestro 2 |
| 00:14.45 | Patlabor221 | ok mail me your current addy |
| 00:15.03 | captain_proton | i think we've already got an ess maestro 2 in there |
| 00:15.06 | Patlabor221 | guys doing ok on video cards? |
| 00:15.07 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: remind me of your email? |
| 00:15.18 | captain_proton | whatcha got? :) |
| 00:15.25 | captain_proton | wasabi's video card has some xvideo issues |
| 00:15.54 | Patlabor221 | just do jeffm@bakadigital.com |
| 00:15.58 | Patlabor221 | I got a mailserver working :) |
| 00:16.01 | BaDiN | anyone to enter a score? |
| 00:16.07 | Patlabor221 | you need TV out right? |
| 00:16.10 | BaDiN | please? :) |
| 00:16.49 | captain_proton | tv out, but the problem is that wasabi's software is a bit heavy on the fill rate, so something gf3+ :P |
| 00:16.56 | captain_proton | if you don't have anything, its not a big issue |
| 00:17.04 | orchid | BaDiN: i will |
| 00:17.06 | Patlabor221 | I may have an ati |
| 00:17.10 | Patlabor221 | or a FD4MX |
| 00:17.21 | Patlabor221 | I will look |
| 00:17.26 | Patlabor221 | they are in the other bins |
| 00:17.31 | captain_proton | i wouldn't go for an ati, but the FD sounds good =) |
| 00:17.48 | Patlabor221 | I know I have some GF2MXes |
| 00:17.51 | Patlabor221 | PCI and AGP |
| 00:17.58 | Patlabor221 | and that good old TNT2 |
| 00:19.06 | BaDiN | oh, by the way, peolpe |
| 00:19.15 | Patlabor221 | how bout a dvd ram drive of dubious functionality? |
| 00:19.36 | BaDiN | the registrations to the BZFlag International Tournament are open |
| 00:19.39 | BaDiN | www.bit.page.vu |
| 00:20.09 | Patlabor221 | a PPC based DSL modem? |
| 00:20.49 | Patlabor221 | zip drives? |
| 00:21.28 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:21.53 | Patlabor221 | random motherborads? |
| 00:22.25 | fhffhqvb | i need a slot-1 mobo |
| 00:22.40 | Patlabor221 | for what speed? |
| 00:22.51 | fhffhqvb | p3-500 |
| 00:22.56 | fhffhqvb | my little brother blew his up |
| 00:23.27 | fhffhqvb | several capacitors are buggered |
| 00:23.46 | Patlabor221 | I don't know what this is, but it says VB-601-v on it |
| 00:24.08 | fhffhqvb | visual basic? |
| 00:24.19 | Patlabor221 | maybe |
| 00:24.23 | Patlabor221 | it's on the mobo |
| 00:24.28 | fhffhqvb | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/board.jpg |
| 00:25.31 | fhffhqvb | vb-601-v takes p2 or celeron |
| 00:25.40 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 00:25.44 | Patlabor221 | then that's all I got |
| 00:25.45 | fhffhqvb | http://www.sysopt.com/reviews/vb601-v/ |
| 00:26.00 | Patlabor221 | all the others are socket 370 or socket A |
| 00:26.06 | Patlabor221 | or worse |
| 00:26.10 | Patlabor221 | socket 7 |
| 00:26.15 | Patlabor221 | and socket 5 |
| 00:27.03 | fhffhqvb | it'd been easier if he had a slot-a or whatever other socket. slot-1's for p3 are appearently hard to find |
| 00:27.36 | Patlabor221 | yeah they stoped making them at about the 700 or so range |
| 00:27.44 | Patlabor221 | then changed to socket 370 |
| 00:27.52 | Patlabor221 | same size as socketA but difrent |
| 00:27.57 | Patlabor221 | still takes the same fans tho |
| 00:28.01 | fhffhqvb | i have a socket a mobo |
| 00:28.26 | Patlabor221 | I am running 2 of them now |
| 00:28.35 | Patlabor221 | and I thknk there are 3 others in the bins |
| 00:29.01 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton, got your addy I'll send it along |
| 00:29.20 | Patlabor221 | want another joystick like the on I sent you before, but game port? |
| 00:29.26 | Patlabor221 | maybe for wasabi? |
| 00:29.56 | captain_proton | if you're in the mood to send stuff, i don't mind receiving it |
| 00:30.01 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 00:30.05 | captain_proton | but sound card & video card are much more appreciated :) |
| 00:30.18 | Patlabor221 | the vids are at work |
| 00:30.21 | Patlabor221 | I will look for them |
| 00:30.53 | Patlabor221 | figyred I had to do somethign when I couldn't shut the drawer they were in |
| 00:31.06 | captain_proton | :) |
| 00:31.25 | Patlabor221 | any diff between the 2 sblives? |
| 00:31.53 | Patlabor221 | I gotta pitch some of these cases too |
| 00:31.53 | captain_proton | well it sounds from a quick google search like one is a value & one is a 5.1 |
| 00:32.09 | Patlabor221 | after I yank all the powers suplys |
| 00:32.09 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 00:32.16 | Patlabor221 | they both have dig out |
| 00:32.37 | Patlabor221 | but the sbo is yours |
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| 00:33.22 | Patlabor221 | ewwww, a "dos compatable" PPC 6100/60 |
| 00:34.08 | fhffhqvb | DOS on PPC? |
| 00:34.33 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 00:34.37 | Patlabor221 | thing has a card in it |
| 00:34.41 | Patlabor221 | with a 486 |
| 00:34.44 | Noodleman | heh |
| 00:34.47 | Patlabor221 | and the mac could switch to it |
| 00:35.17 | Patlabor221 | it had it's own ram on the card, but used the PC drive and input |
| 00:35.25 | Patlabor221 | but had it's own video card |
| 00:35.32 | Patlabor221 | it's bizare |
| 00:35.38 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:35.47 | captain_proton | i lub those x86-coprocessor cards |
| 00:35.50 | captain_proton | like the SunPCi |
| 00:36.04 | Patlabor221 | I think we have one of those at work somewhere |
| 00:37.25 | captain_proton | you have solaris boxes there? |
| 00:37.36 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 00:37.52 | Patlabor221 | but we had one PCI card that had that sun thing on it |
| 00:37.57 | Patlabor221 | and one copy of solaris |
| 00:38.02 | Patlabor221 | I never saw it in use |
| 00:38.07 | Patlabor221 | just laying in a box |
| 00:39.18 | captain_proton | ah |
| 00:39.31 | captain_proton | SunPCi is a card that sits inside a blade workstation that lets you run windows inside a window |
| 00:40.08 | Patlabor221 | this is a PCI card that sits in your PC and lets you run solaris in a window :) |
| 00:40.23 | captain_proton | but solaris runs on x86 ;) |
| 00:40.52 | orchid | theres a slotserver for windows too, a pci card you can stick in windows and install llinux on, a guy used to run 5 bzservers off of that |
| 00:41.04 | Patlabor221 | hey I dono, I was just told thats what it does |
| 00:41.12 | Patlabor221 | the thing takes 2 slots IIRC |
| 00:43.18 | Noodleman | w00, bochs is *fast* |
| 00:43.20 | Noodleman | :-) |
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| 01:08.38 | Patlabor221 | I thought that server side spawns had to wait till the server had a complete state? |
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| 01:32.08 | captain_proton | :) |
| 01:35.09 | Patlabor221 | it should have gone "fhanserv fives fhannel oferator thatus thoo thaptan_thoton" |
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| 02:06.14 | fhffhqvb | the bzfquery in bzflag-server_1.10.0_i386.deb has bzfs 1908 in there instead of 1910 |
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| 03:05.18 | dustin_w | tim! |
| 03:05.29 | |tim| | hi dustin_w |
| 03:06.25 | dustin_w | active channel.. |
| 03:06.38 | |tim| | you've came at the wrong time |
| 03:07.04 | dustin_w | almost 40 people here and I've came at the wrong time? |
| 03:07.18 | |tim| | :) |
| 03:08.10 | Sasami | there is a right time? |
| 03:08.27 | dustin_w | according to tim, there is |
| 03:08.42 | Sasami | really? |
| 03:08.43 | Sasami | wow |
| 03:08.46 | |tim| | lol |
| 03:08.47 | dustin_w | my windows box has 5+ days uptime... |
| 03:08.59 | |tim| | - off to mums; later all |
| 03:09.01 | Sasami | mine has about a month |
| 03:09.04 | orchid | cu tim |
| 03:09.06 | dustin_w | later tim |
| 03:09.13 | Sasami | ss ja |
| 03:09.18 | dustin_w | power surges suck |
| 03:09.18 | |tim| | ate logo |
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| 03:12.37 | Sasami | wheee |
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| 04:59.47 | Sasami | wow try to make bzflag an anjuta project, and boom it goes |
| 05:00.21 | captain_proton | boom boom] |
| 05:01.18 | Sasami | well it seems bzg has helped me cure the anti-linux curse |
| 05:01.54 | captain_proton | yay |
| 05:03.49 | Sasami | http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/Screenshot3.png |
| 05:04.21 | Sasami | gotta increase the res, seems sad to have 1024 on a nice nanao 21 |
| 05:04.35 | captain_proton | mmm, looks like gnome |
| 05:04.45 | Sasami | tis |
| 05:04.49 | Sasami | kde will not run |
| 05:04.53 | captain_proton | is that one of the sexy svg themes? |
| 05:04.57 | Sasami | yes |
| 05:05.04 | Sasami | sphereCrystal |
| 05:05.33 | Sasami | flux will be atempted at a later date when I am sure things build on this macvhine |
| 05:05.37 | Sasami | bz allmost builds |
| 05:06.54 | Sasami | must go now |
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| 06:10.06 | creeperz | can i borrow your air? |
| 06:11.34 | creeperz | maybe a refigerator |
| 06:11.50 | creeperz | or 7 |
| 06:11.53 | Noodleman | just bought 3 tickets to go see bill cosby when he comes to evansville :-) |
| 06:12.05 | creeperz | eek! |
| 06:12.06 | Noodleman | why do you need to borrow my air? |
| 06:12.10 | creeperz | you scared me |
| 06:12.15 | Noodleman | hah |
| 06:12.24 | creeperz | to put in the refrigerator |
| 06:12.28 | Noodleman | ah |
| 06:12.53 | creeperz | it makes sence when you add the fact that my friend is going to swallow an imploding star |
| 06:13.05 | creeperz | ...or...not...really? |
| 06:13.22 | creeperz | http://mugglebrave.com/index2.php |
| 06:14.30 | creeperz | when is cosby comming to evansville? |
| 06:15.25 | Noodleman | feb 7 |
| 06:15.42 | creeperz | cool |
| 06:16.02 | Noodleman | all the seats in the orchestra pit were gone |
| 06:16.07 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 06:16.13 | creeperz | haha |
| 06:16.55 | Noodleman | you say deloreans are one of the easiest cars to work on? |
| 06:17.06 | creeperz | yes |
| 06:17.11 | Noodleman | i might have a chance then :-) |
| 06:17.17 | purple_cow | sacresy! |
| 06:17.30 | creeperz | eek, a purple cow |
| 06:17.40 | Noodleman | i know how to replace tires, change oil, and put on chains :-) |
| 06:17.47 | Noodleman | that's about the extent of it |
| 06:17.53 | creeperz | :-) |
| 06:18.06 | Noodleman | i'm sure if i ever needed to i could learn more |
| 06:18.37 | Noodleman | that purple bovine can code like a mad cow :-) |
| 06:18.49 | creeperz | i can do brakes (disc or drum), oil, drive train, some electrical, tire (replacement and balancing) and all that good stuff |
| 06:19.36 | Noodleman | bbl |
| 06:19.36 | creeperz | today my dad dropped a piston into a cylinder too fast and it broke another ring |
| 06:19.41 | Noodleman | trash duty |
| 06:19.45 | creeperz | ahh |
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| 06:34.21 | purple_cow | yay its MrApathyCream |
| 06:38.10 | Tupone | MrApathyCream: hi |
| 06:38.18 | Noodleman | g'night |
| 06:39.43 | MrApathyCream | howdy! |
| 06:39.58 | MrApathyCream | Where's gruff but loveable jeff! |
| 06:40.11 | creeperz | the cow ate him |
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| 06:41.37 | purple_cow | mmmm |
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| 06:58.57 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/win32/VC6_sdk (18 files): Build for VC6 when having current sdk |
| 07:11.02 | MrApathyCream | hehe |
| 07:11.04 | MrApathyCream | poor jeff |
| 07:11.05 | Pimpinella | noodle wrote:"that purple bovine can code like a mad cow" |
| 07:11.16 | Pimpinella | BSE? |
| 07:11.18 | Pimpinella | :) |
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| 07:14.07 | bomber | moin |
| 07:14.20 | Pimpinella | hallo bomer |
| 07:14.30 | Pimpinella | bomber |
| 07:15.07 | Pimpinella | auf hashmark sind laut serverliste 255 Purple |
| 07:15.19 | Pimpinella | ob das so soll? |
| 07:16.15 | Pimpinella | Some Admin for hashmark here? |
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| 07:52.42 | MrApathyCream | its gruff but loveable jeff! |
| 07:56.51 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 07:56.56 | Patlabor221 | how are you? |
| 08:01.12 | captain_proton | um |
| 08:01.19 | captain_proton | metacity should be the default |
| 08:01.23 | captain_proton | at least in gnome 2.4 |
| 08:01.28 | Patlabor221 | it allways says "Sawfish" |
| 08:01.40 | captain_proton | which sucks, since sawfish is so damn cool |
| 08:01.52 | Patlabor221 | where do I get more sawfish styles? |
| 08:02.02 | captain_proton | they're scattered around |
| 08:02.06 | captain_proton | i think there's some at art.gnome.org |
| 08:02.09 | captain_proton | themes.freshmeat.net |
| 08:02.33 | Patlabor221 | I still can not see how to change it |
| 08:03.02 | captain_proton | how to change which you run or how to change the appearance of sawfish? |
| 08:03.10 | Patlabor221 | what I run |
| 08:03.23 | Patlabor221 | I can only change between sawfish window styles |
| 08:07.47 | Patlabor221 | need to figure out that, get a the wheel to work, then get the code building |
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| 08:22.57 | MrApathyCream | peachy |
| 08:26.44 | Sasami | keen |
| 08:30.16 | MrApathyCream | time for sleep |
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| 13:37.02 | Chestal | draußen ist Winter |
| 13:37.03 | Chestal | oops |
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| 14:04.23 | KTL | googlesearch after "bzflag" : 42300 hits |
| 14:21.55 | learner | soon, KTL, ... soon |
| 14:22.33 | Chestal | hi |
| 14:22.46 | Chestal | learner: did you see that I removed the client-side auto team logic? |
| 14:22.59 | learner | yes I did |
| 14:23.09 | learner | at a glance it looked fine to me.. |
| 14:23.29 | learner | team Automatic looks like gets pulled from the menu selection and sent over the wire |
| 14:23.36 | Chestal | yep |
| 14:23.50 | learner | then server response sets the team while joining |
| 14:23.50 | Chestal | and the server-side auto team is hopefully working correct now |
| 14:24.00 | learner | wasn't working? |
| 14:24.04 | Chestal | not really |
| 14:24.11 | learner | how so? |
| 14:24.31 | Chestal | when I set server to allow 1 rogue and 3 observers and 2nd rogue tried to join he was rejcted |
| 14:24.53 | Chestal | btw., I will make people observer when server is full even if neither client or serever are set to auto now |
| 14:25.15 | learner | hrm. odd.. I remember observer was handled special, but i can see how I might have missed something |
| 14:25.26 | Chestal | also, there was some confusion about the two maxPlayer values in the server (total number of clients vs. total number of real (no observer) players) |
| 14:25.56 | learner | yea.. I thought "realMaxPlayers" was just as bad as the existing variety :) |
| 14:26.00 | Chestal | specifying both -mp # and -mp #,#,#,#,#,# can be a tad confusing, but I think it behaves as it should now :-) |
| 14:26.30 | Chestal | so, let's say you do -mp 2 -mp 0,1,1,,0, |
| 14:26.48 | Chestal | then maxRealPlayrs is 2 |
| 14:26.59 | Chestal | and max team sizes are 0,1,1,2,0,5 |
| 14:27.08 | Chestal | and maxplayers is 7 |
| 14:27.50 | learner | hrm, default values for unspecified values is a bit funky |
| 14:28.11 | Chestal | if value is not specified, it defaulst to "no limit" now, as it was in 1.7 |
| 14:28.21 | Chestal | and max obserevrs defaults to 5 |
| 14:28.22 | learner | I would expect either zero or something effectively infinite |
| 14:28.32 | Chestal | well, it is infinite |
| 14:28.44 | Chestal | but 2 is infinite above because total number of real players is 2 |
| 14:28.51 | Chestal | so it would make no sense to use 200 there |
| 14:28.53 | learner | ah |
| 14:29.21 | Chestal | so, you say, max, 2 palyers allowed, but no rogues, no purple ones and no more than 1 in red and green team each |
| 14:29.22 | learner | i never liked the 200 hack |
| 14:29.49 | learner | why not do the same for observers then? |
| 14:29.51 | Chestal | such a config as above is probably rarely used |
| 14:30.02 | Chestal | because observers are no "real" players |
| 14:30.05 | learner | weren't we starting to treat them as a real team? |
| 14:30.10 | Chestal | -mp only limits non-observers |
| 14:30.35 | Chestal | so you can say you want no more than 5 tanks driving around, but allow up to 3 additional observers |
| 14:30.40 | learner | right, but I mean why not treat their value setting just like any other team |
| 14:30.59 | Chestal | that would mean somethign diffeernt then |
| 14:31.07 | learner | but would be consistent |
| 14:31.16 | Chestal | than -mp # would have a different meaning |
| 14:31.23 | Chestal | it would limit the total number of clients |
| 14:32.41 | learner | perhaps that's where things are a bit unfriendly then.. the fact that -mp # and -mp #,#,#,... are catering to rather different settings |
| 14:33.07 | Chestal | well, it's a bit complicated |
| 14:33.11 | Chestal | but only if you need it |
| 14:33.21 | learner | maxPlayer and maxTeam in sorts |
| 14:33.44 | learner | where observer==Team but not Player |
| 14:33.57 | learner | meh, if it works, great ;) |
| 14:34.20 | Chestal | usually, you wouldn't rely on default values anyway |
| 14:34.34 | Chestal | but the feature was there and documented, so I made sure it works |
| 14:34.59 | Chestal | 1.10.0 set team sizes where no value was given to 0 I think |
| 14:35.26 | learner | right |
| 14:35.47 | learner | explicit values are always easy to understand |
| 14:35.47 | Chestal | that seemed wrong to me |
| 14:36.30 | learner | well.. I have to run off to work |
| 14:36.33 | learner | cya |
| 14:36.35 | Chestal | have fun ;-) |
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| 15:13.21 | Chestal | hi Tim |
| 15:23.06 | KR | hey - take a look at hashmark 1.10 - there are 254 observers there right now |
| 15:23.11 | KR | weird |
| 15:23.50 | KR | thats what server list shows, but they arent there if you sign in |
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| 15:54.14 | Rebel | hello KR? |
| 15:54.19 | Rebel | KR: hello |
| 15:56.55 | Chikorita | kr team italy iz on ducati |
| 15:56.59 | Chikorita | i need u plz |
| 15:57.09 | Chikorita | please letz jus get dis ova wif |
| 15:57.33 | Chikorita | can u play a match wif mee KR? |
| 15:57.36 | Chikorita | ~d |
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| 16:00.37 | KR | she is sooo impatient :) |
| 16:00.50 | KR | not that I could play on a 1.7 server anyway... |
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| 16:15.12 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 16:15.50 | Chikorita | moin |
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| 16:18.16 | Chikorita | kr |
| 16:18.21 | Chikorita | help mee |
| 16:18.22 | Chikorita | plz |
| 16:18.39 | Chikorita | kr... |
| 16:18.42 | KR | hey just missed u before |
| 16:18.50 | Chikorita | can u help mee? |
| 16:18.52 | KR | I cant - I dont have 1.7 anymore |
| 16:19.06 | Chikorita | wee can match on 1.10 |
| 16:19.13 | KR | I assume thats what you are playing with? |
| 16:19.19 | Chikorita | nthere iz pimpi server |
| 16:19.25 | Chikorita | yes i have 1.10 |
| 16:19.25 | KR | ok i can do that |
| 16:19.28 | Chikorita | okies |
| 16:19.31 | Chikorita | kewl :) |
| 16:19.37 | KR | will go there |
| 16:19.39 | Chikorita | yay finally wee can get dis ova wif |
| 16:19.41 | Chikorita | k |
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| 16:37.54 | bomber | ~d |
| 16:41.29 | Michaelh | figured out my debugging problem .. I have no source code for microsoft stuff, hence no debugging info for std library etc.. can still set breakpoints, step up in the chain of calls etc.. |
| 16:42.59 | Michaelh | anyone discovered cross platform reg expressions? |
| 16:43.05 | Michaelh | I need some arg .. |
| 17:11.10 | bomber | ~d |
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| 17:25.08 | bomber | ~d |
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| 17:34.22 | Noodleman | i'm having a terrible time trying to figure out what is the format of the server list |
| 17:34.39 | Noodleman | it seems to have changed between 1.7 and 1.10, but i can't figure out how |
| 17:35.34 | Noodleman | i've got the queryserver part of BZFlag::Info updated, i just can't figure out the new list server |
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| 17:38.11 | Noodleman | Patlabor221: do you know where i can find out the format of the new list server listings? |
| 17:38.24 | Noodleman | i think they've changed, but i can't figure out how |
| 17:39.08 | Patlabor221 | well |
| 17:39.17 | Patlabor221 | the php page that is the list server should be in CVS |
| 17:39.30 | Patlabor221 | and you could see how the cleient parses it in the C code |
| 17:39.34 | larsl | I think it's something like "ADDRESS:PORT PROTOCOL WORLDHASH IP DESCRIPTION" |
| 17:39.51 | Patlabor221 | I don't recall if there was a wiki made for it |
| 17:40.02 | Patlabor221 | most of it was busted out by the Timinator IIRC |
| 17:40.14 | Noodleman | larsl: so, there's no game style info in the server list anymore? |
| 17:40.36 | larsl | Ah, hmm, that hash thing might contain the game style. |
| 17:41.09 | Noodleman | if the game style info isn't there, it will make my life a lot easier :-) |
| 17:41.29 | larsl | It must be. |
| 17:41.50 | Noodleman | yeah, i can't imagine that the client would have to query each server to get the game info |
| 17:42.58 | larsl | The long number thing is a packed PingPacket. |
| 17:43.13 | larsl | So it's "ADDRESS:PORT PROTOCOL PINGPACKET IP DESCRIPTION" |
| 17:43.16 | Noodleman | PingPacket... |
| 17:43.30 | Nidhoggr | found another bug. we had a user who had burrow and couldn't be hit by GM, which we set up and tested. Couldn't hit him, but he and admin switched flags, and admin with burrow could be hit with GM. |
| 17:43.53 | Nidhoggr | so it's some wierd flakey thing. |
| 17:44.41 | larsl | Noodleman: src/common/Ping.cxx:183 shows the unpacking. |
| 17:45.17 | larsl | Nidhoggr: There has been an issue with tanks with ID 0 being invulnerable to GM. |
| 17:45.31 | Nidhoggr | ah. bet that was it. |
| 17:45.41 | bomber | hmmm...i didnt have such problem... |
| 17:45.45 | Nidhoggr | has it been resolved in cvs? |
| 17:45.55 | Noodleman | larsl: you are a genius :-) |
| 17:45.55 | bomber | ahh 2late |
| 17:45.58 | Noodleman | thx alot |
| 17:46.49 | shkoo | and is it a server or client issue? |
| 17:47.21 | larsl | Nidhoggr: Yes, it looks like it was fixed three days ago. |
| 17:47.30 | Nidhoggr | server or client? |
| 17:47.35 | larsl | shkoo: Client, the server doesn't handle the shots. |
| 17:47.43 | Nidhoggr | cool. |
| 17:48.14 | larsl | So if someone with an old client gets ID 0, they will still be invulnerable. =P |
| 17:48.33 | Nidhoggr | I'd be okay with keeping current cvs builds on dragon.org if people are interested. |
| 17:48.44 | Nidhoggr | like with the 1.9 stuff. |
| 17:49.36 | Nidhoggr | are the 1.10 clients on sourceforge being updated as bugfixes happen? |
| 17:49.58 | larsl | Not continuously. |
| 17:50.49 | larsl | I'm not sure when Tim is planning to release the first bugfix version, but considering the number if nasty bugs in 1.10.0 I think it won't be long. |
| 17:50.59 | larsl | s/if/of/ |
| 17:51.31 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 17:52.00 | Nidhoggr | has anyone else complained of the client slowing down on windows machines after a while playing? |
| 17:52.10 | Nidhoggr | I've heard one complaint so far. |
| 17:52.26 | Nidhoggr | sounds like she might have a graphics driver memory leak, if not. |
| 17:53.37 | captain_proton | yup |
| 17:53.44 | Nidhoggr | who's selling? |
| 17:53.49 | TimRiker | Noodleman: new listing is bytes for for player counts etc. |
| 17:53.51 | captain_proton | so wait, sell the bugfix? :) |
| 17:54.02 | larsl | But you'd have to let the customer give it away for free to anyone. |
| 17:54.04 | larsl | Or? |
| 17:54.05 | captain_proton | it'd be like microsoft's strategy in academia |
| 17:54.13 | captain_proton | give away stuff initially, then charge for the bugfixes |
| 17:54.31 | TimRiker | Noodleman: see the pack/unpack code in the source for the format. note that observer max and counts are now included. |
| 17:54.33 | larsl | And put lots of bugs in the original product. =) |
| 17:55.05 | TimRiker | larsl: soon, yes. let's clean things up and get a 1.10.2 out. |
| 17:55.49 | TimRiker | Nidhoggr: yes, GM player 0 issues were patched in CVS. I've not tested them to confirm yet, but the patch looked good. |
| 17:56.26 | drinian | TimRiker: I was wondering if anyone is working on speeding up the response time of the new list server? |
| 17:57.15 | drinian | If not possible, should we put a message in there indicating that it's getting the list server so people know to wait? |
| 17:57.18 | TimRiker | drinian: I should be but I've not gotten back to it. |
| 17:57.37 | drinian | No pressure, just wondering. |
| 17:57.46 | TimRiker | drinian: it's a debian stable server and if I could get sqlite working with php I'd run the php version of the list server. |
| 17:58.12 | drinian | Is it a function of the machine then? |
| 17:58.24 | TimRiker | at the moment it's using the perl version and on a fairly slow machine so it takes a while to start perl, open and read the sqlite database, and return results. |
| 17:58.49 | drinian | Ah... |
| 17:58.53 | TimRiker | the php version is much faster, but debian-stable does not include sqlite support in php. |
| 17:59.17 | drinian | What version of php is in debian stable? |
| 17:59.32 | TimRiker | I could start mysql on there too and run the mysql version. I might do that. I'm expecting to upgrade the machine soon which should also help. |
| 17:59.43 | TimRiker | ~dinfo mysql |
| 18:00.45 | TimRiker | hmm. |
| 18:00.50 | drinian | bad ibot |
| 18:00.54 | TimRiker | ~+dinfo mysql-common |
| 18:01.20 | TimRiker | ~dinfo mysql-common |
| 18:03.22 | drinian | TmRiker: would it be possible to host the list server on a ISP? 1and1.com is offering 3 years for free and they're a large provider...must pay $6/year for domain, though. |
| 18:11.19 | Nidhoggr | I'd host it for free, as well. |
| 18:11.29 | Nidhoggr | or a backup |
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| 18:16.56 | orchid | hi Legolas |
| 18:18.17 | bomber | ~d |
| 18:18.37 | bomber | orchid match? |
| 18:18.44 | orchid | with? |
| 18:19.58 | bomber | dont know..who wants |
| 18:20.01 | bomber | :o) |
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| 18:20.28 | orchid | well if you find a match yes |
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| 18:20.41 | bomber | k |
| 18:20.54 | brlcad | hehe |
| 18:20.57 | brlcad | moin bomber |
| 18:21.35 | Tupone | brlcad, orchid, larsl, Pat: hi |
| 18:21.49 | bomber | hey |
| 18:22.02 | bomber | moin |
| 18:23.15 | brlcad | tupone: did you see chestal's changes? automatic team is now sent to server |
| 18:23.37 | Tupone | Yeah. I think it's ok. I was asking him to wait for you |
| 18:24.05 | brlcad | I haven't tested it, but it looked okay when I read the patch |
| 18:24.57 | Tupone | I remember the only reason you did clientside is cuz we were releasing (we thought that) |
| 18:27.45 | Patlabor221 | hey Tupone |
| 18:29.19 | Tupone | Pat! I was just thinking at openGL. |
| 18:29.44 | Tupone | could be that we did more than 1 glCreateContext? |
| 18:31.13 | brlcad | yea.. just because we were releasing.. didn't want to risk a bug |
| 18:31.33 | brlcad | so doing the conversion now is fine (i'm glad chestal did it :) |
| 18:31.42 | Tupone | lol, it happened month ago |
| 18:31.47 | brlcad | i know.. |
| 18:34.19 | brlcad | but at least now the code is moving again.. |
| 18:34.28 | brlcad | it's "healing" :) |
| 18:36.12 | brlcad | Sasami: is that bug regarding the Texture Manager and Singleton's still valid? |
| 18:36.18 | Sasami | yes |
| 18:36.25 | Sasami | I can not do relese VC7.1 builds |
| 18:36.43 | brlcad | complains about no public destructor? |
| 18:36.56 | brlcad | or something like that? |
| 18:39.47 | Sasami | it can't link, says it can't find the external for texture managers distructor |
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| 18:40.47 | KR|1 | have their been any bug fixes added to the code yet, for 1.10? |
| 18:42.34 | KR | because I reinstalled to my server machine, and the pyramid bump/jump thing is still happening, and also some other weirdness that I've seen... |
| 18:42.35 | brlcad | that is very odd indeed |
| 18:42.54 | brlcad | i think making it private, like the constructor, might just fix it |
| 18:44.05 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/include (TextureManager.h): try to appease vc7.1 |
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| 18:45.11 | bryjen | ~seen TimRiker |
| 18:45.14 | | timriker is currently on #pet (2h 8m 2s) #botpark (2h 8m 2s) #elinux (2h 8m 3s) #openembedded (2h 8m 3s) #bzflag (2h 8m 3s). Has said a total of 15 messages. Is idling for 28m 5s |
| 18:45.58 | bryjen | Wierdness on Xmission 1.10. Getting "Killed by teammate foo" when foo is not on my team. |
| 18:46.25 | Tupone | KR, fix to pyram is in CVS |
| 18:46.28 | orchid | his nick is "teamate foo"? |
| 18:46.40 | bryjen | no |
| 18:46.49 | bryjen | orchid: ;P |
| 18:46.57 | orchid | woth a try :) |
| 18:47.28 | bryjen | that was my first thought too. :) but it was more than one (from different teams too) |
| 18:48.19 | Pimpinella | on hashmark are still 254/4 Purple players :( |
| 18:48.36 | bryjen | And I'm not sure multi-(greater than 2)-team CTF makes sense, and Xmission also has rogues on |
| 18:48.38 | Pimpinella | a known bug? |
| 18:49.29 | KR | ah ok I havent done the CVS thing yet |
| 18:50.13 | KR | what is the address for bugzilla for this release? |
| 18:50.32 | KR | there are a few other that I want to see if have been reported |
| 18:50.40 | Tupone | we don't have bugzilla |
| 18:50.47 | KR | or the equivalent |
| 18:50.53 | KR | the buggy place :) |
| 18:51.08 | Tupone | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
| 18:51.40 | KR | got it thx tupone |
| 18:53.57 | bryjen | heh. 254 current out of 4 allowed purples on hashmark. and i think that's down from 255 last night :) |
| 18:54.15 | Nidhoggr | is it not letting go of slots? |
| 18:54.24 | KR | I was on there today, and, besides that, they were all invisible ;) |
| 18:56.46 | bryjen | ive no idea whats causing it. it does got back to zero when the server cycles on empty. and, yes, there are no actual purple players. |
| 18:57.19 | bryjen | hmm, seems it sees 254 > 4 and wont let me join purple :( |
| 19:00.47 | brlcad | KR: also http://brlcad.org/bzflag/cvs/BUGS for many informal bugs |
| 19:01.37 | Chestal | my server seems to run fine so far, except for the questionable choice of rabbit |
| 19:01.57 | brlcad | i noticed the questionable rabbit selection as well |
| 19:02.25 | brlcad | seems like it often picks the highest negative score instead of the highest overall |
| 19:03.06 | Noodleman | maybe it goes with absolute value instead of just plain numbers |
| 19:03.30 | Tupone | if someone does not kill anyone it has a score of 0, and with negative score players, is the best |
| 19:03.32 | brlcad | no, it doesn't pick the guy with -30 |
| 19:04.21 | Tupone | wins * (wins -loss) = 0 if wins = 0 |
| 19:04.28 | larsl | TimRiker: Did you restart xmission? |
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| 19:10.37 | KR | thx brlcad will look there also |
| 19:14.40 | KR | didn't see any of my issues there - weee - I have new bugs 4 u ;) |
| 19:15.19 | KR | will write them up, and maybe someone else can try what I have to see if they can replicate them |
| 19:15.46 | KR | I am using the deb from the 9th, not CVS, so they may be fixed already |
| 19:16.31 | brlcad | what are they? |
| 19:16.41 | larsl | Lots of bugs have been fixed since the release. |
| 19:16.43 | *** part/#bzflag KRlaptop (~knoppix@cae168-234-054.sc.rr.com) |
| 19:17.53 | KR | as far as affecting gameplay - people respawning after flag capture not on their base, but on the field somewhere |
| 19:18.24 | KR | I see people jump around a few spots on respawn, before eventually stopping in one place |
| 19:18.49 | larsl | KR: The jump-before-spawn bug has been fixed. |
| 19:19.13 | KR | sometimes shots cease functioning - the shooter can see them, but they don't kill and are not visible to others, even observers following that tank |
| 19:19.30 | KR | ok thats one less then :) |
| 19:20.07 | KR | do you know - did people who were doing that have the flag when they jumped-before-spawn? |
| 19:20.11 | brlcad | the latter is knon.. there's a sf bug posted for it |
| 19:20.34 | brlcad | s/on/own/ |
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| 19:20.42 | larsl | Flag? |
| 19:21.20 | KR | yes - they respawn post-capture on the field somewhere, in posession of the flag |
| 19:21.45 | KR | which is convienent for the opposing team, but... :) |
| 19:23.20 | larsl | I haven't seen that - I meant the bug when tanks blink in and out on a few different places before they spawn. |
| 19:23.38 | KR | ok - yes, this is a whole different one then |
| 19:23.51 | larsl | That was because they clicked the right mouse button several times, and the client sent a MsgAlive for each click, and the server responded to each of those with a spawn position. |
| 19:24.16 | KR | makes sense, thx for sharing |
| 19:24.40 | larsl | Was that two spawn bugs you listed, or one? |
| 19:26.06 | KR | well, if the multi-place one which you just described to me is known, then the other is a separate bug |
| 19:26.33 | KR | spawning after a capture down field, holding team flag |
| 19:26.49 | KR | when the spawn should have been on team base |
| 19:26.53 | orchid | can anyone see "bzgirl.bzflag.org" in the list with their 1.10 client |
| 19:26.55 | larsl | KR: Do people jump around all over the server when they spawn in CTF? Or do they just spawn somewhere else thatn on the base? |
| 19:27.27 | larsl | orchid: No. |
| 19:27.39 | orchid | hmm |
| 19:28.12 | KR | both - on killed-in-battle spawns, I'll see them jump a few spots before final respawning normal, but after flag-capture, I see them sometimes respawn on the base, and other times elsewhere on the field |
| 19:29.15 | larsl | KR: It might be the same bug. If they right click several times the server would only send them a spawn position on the base the first time. |
| 19:29.42 | KR | I see |
| 19:29.45 | larsl | And if they don't actually die before they spawn again, they might end up holding the team flag somewhere else (if they spawned on it the first time). |
| 19:29.53 | larsl | Not sure though, post it anyway. =) |
| 19:30.46 | KR | ok :) |
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| 19:42.56 | orchid | i have a problem in 1.10 client , i cannot enter a calsign, there is a cursor there, to enter text, but i cant enter anything! i did export BZFLAGID=bzg and ran the game and still it didnt work |
| 19:43.25 | Chestal | hmm, strange |
| 19:43.28 | orchid | this is tragic for someone with as many call signs as me :( |
| 19:43.38 | Chestal | can you enter anything in other fields, liek server name etc.? |
| 19:43.44 | orchid | yes i can |
| 19:43.56 | orchid | all other fields and in game chat work fine |
| 19:43.56 | Chestal | hmm |
| 19:44.10 | Chestal | check ~/.bzf/config for the callsign line |
| 19:44.12 | orchid | is there a -callsign option too? |
| 19:44.19 | Chestal | I think so |
| 19:44.22 | orchid | oh right |
| 19:44.54 | Chestal | maybe it's set to something strange, control character in it, just a guess |
| 19:45.22 | orchid | yeah, the file edit worked |
| 19:45.55 | KR | bzg - I can see your server on the list, btw |
| 19:45.59 | Chestal | still cannot change it in the menu? |
| 19:46.16 | TimRiker | orchid: bzgirl.bzflag.org:5154 BZFS1910 002300020000000000000000000010000000040004000000000008 64.26.176.100 ctf ducati style, server in toronto |
| 19:46.35 | KR | going to go mess around on it :) |
| 19:47.10 | orchid | TimRiker: yeah, it lists now ok |
| 19:47.37 | TimRiker | drinian: I'd host at SF except that the script needs outgoing port access to verify the server and SF does not allow that. |
| 19:48.26 | TimRiker | larsanalysisexam: why did xmission need a restart? oh.. I think xmission is still set to restart on code changes. I should probably change that. |
| 19:50.09 | larsanalysisexam | Chestal: The -callsign option should be gone now, I changed it to callsign@server:port instead (from the TODO file). |
| 19:50.51 | orchid | KR: Player KR [1]: tank too fast autokick! |
| 19:51.16 | orchid | kicking Player KR [1] tank too fast (tank: 47.979137, allowed: 39.774756) |
| 19:51.31 | orchid | didnt you have the high speed flag? |
| 19:51.39 | Tupone | orchid: hi, you lost the High speed? |
| 19:52.00 | orchid | my sever kicked him :( |
| 19:52.03 | Tupone | not you, KR |
| 19:52.14 | larsanalysisexam | Did someone steal his speed flag? |
| 19:52.23 | brlcad | probably thieved a V flag or reverse |
| 19:52.30 | Chestal | speed 48? that's fast |
| 19:53.26 | brlcad | i relaxed that kicking yesterday a little, so there should be fewer false positives now, but it'll still be a problem depending on network conditions |
| 19:54.58 | Chestal | yes, but speed 48 is far beyond high speed, unless someone changes the vars |
| 19:56.13 | brlcad | better would be to do some bookeeping like the voting arbiter does, and keep track of violation counts |
| 19:56.31 | brlcad | and anneal the violations over time .. expire them after 10 minutes or so |
| 19:57.01 | brlcad | but if enough are accumulated, give the boot with a lot more confidence |
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| 20:31.57 | *** part/#bzflag brlcad (~brlcad@chr160dhcp1509.chrchv01.md.comcast.net) |
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| 20:36.35 | TimRiker | bzadmin seems to start out msging player 0 instead of all players. |
| 20:36.57 | larsanalysisexam | TimRiker: Still? I thought I fixed that days ago. |
| 20:39.40 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): bzadmin initial send to |
| 20:40.02 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): bzadmin color |
| 20:41.52 | TimRiker | larsanalysisexam: just did a build and tried it. did not do a rebuild though. |
| 20:42.07 | larsanalysisexam | I tried it too now, I get it too. I'll look at it. |
| 20:42.20 | TimRiker | trying a maintainer-clean then rebuild now. |
| 20:45.51 | KR | the speed kick referenced above was speed genereated vertically from a pyramid (the bunp jump bug) |
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| 20:51.53 | brlcad | heh |
| 20:53.41 | larsanalysisexam | This is weird. |
| 20:53.57 | larsanalysisexam | std::map<PlayerId, std::string>::const_iterator iter = players.find(p); |
| 20:54.00 | larsanalysisexam | if (p == me) |
| 20:54.07 | larsanalysisexam | targetIter == iter; |
| 20:54.12 | larsanalysisexam | Does not work, but |
| 20:54.34 | larsanalysisexam | if the last line is replaced with targetIter = players.find(me); |
| 20:54.34 | larsanalysisexam | it works. |
| 20:54.42 | larsanalysisexam | Shouldn't that be equivalent? |
| 20:55.25 | Chestal | == ? |
| 20:55.26 | brlcad | not necessarily, though it is confusing |
| 20:55.33 | brlcad | is targetIter const? |
| 20:55.46 | Chestal | targetIter == iter; should be = |
| 20:55.54 | larsanalysisexam | No, it's an iterator that changes depending on who the client wants to talk to. |
| 20:56.02 | larsanalysisexam | Haha. =) |
| 20:56.03 | brlcad | heh, true ches :) |
| 20:56.06 | larsanalysisexam | Chestal: You got it. |
| 20:59.40 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/src/bzadmin (2 files): bzadmin initial send to fix |
| 21:00.46 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): Removed bzadmin initial target bug |
| 21:01.06 | TimRiker | larsanalysisexam: worked. |
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| 22:57.20 | ohgoodgreif | ahoy, that should do it : ) |
| 22:57.30 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 22:57.43 | ohgoodgreif | me needs 1hr / day of bzflag : ) |
| 22:57.53 | Nidhoggr | I need to play more. |
| 22:58.00 | Nidhoggr | can't do that at work, though. |
| 22:58.38 | ohgoodgreif | lol- oh c'mon tim, it'll be ok, someday :) |
| 22:58.40 | Nidhoggr | don't do that! you'll only make it DUMBER! ;) |
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| 23:03.55 | TimRiker | ok. how do I create the mysql tables for that version? |
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| 23:05.50 | tapo | create table? :) |
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| 23:06.22 | brlcad | you'll need to create the database first, mysqladmin create bzflag |
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| 23:12.07 | brlcad | ibot: sup G? |
| 23:12.10 | | nuthin, yous? |
| 23:12.49 | bryjen | ibot: botsnack |
| 23:12.49 | | :), bryjen |
| 23:13.06 | larslshouldstudy | ~bzfquery gravitywaves.homelinux.net:20000 |
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| 23:25.07 | Pimpinella | nice to see u again ibot |
| 23:25.44 | Pimpinella | ibot: how do you do? |
| 23:25.45 | | Pimpinella: i haven't a clue |
| 23:25.47 | larsl | ibot: You need to learn the new protocol so we can query 1.10 servers. |
| 23:25.49 | | larsl: wish i knew |
| 23:26.19 | Pimpinella | ~d |
| 23:26.28 | Noodleman | i'm finishing up the updated BZFlag::Info, maybe she could use that |
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