| 00:00.06 | Death_Barrel | bye guys |
| 00:00.08 | Death_Barrel | cu in a few |
| 00:00.09 | greg1 | gtbed... see you girl and guys |
| 00:00.09 | Tupone | nite ches |
| 00:00.13 | Death_Barrel | n |
| 00:00.15 | Death_Barrel | noops |
| 00:00.17 | greg1 | nl8r ;) |
| 00:00.17 | Death_Barrel | lol |
| 00:00.19 | Death_Barrel | cu |
| 00:00.19 | sn0w_kitty | brb sum1's at mah door.. |
| 00:01.43 | sn0w_kitty | gtg visitors :P bbl |
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| 00:05.45 | stibnite | is not being able to change radar zoom while burrowed a feature? |
| 00:06.55 | StargateSG1 | indeed |
| 00:07.27 | captain_proton | mmm, food |
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| 00:15.05 | StargateSG1 | Any OS X users in the room right now? |
| 00:15.29 | JBdiGriz | maybe |
| 00:15.36 | StargateSG1 | hehe, heya jb :) |
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| 00:19.06 | Grumbler | ~seen KR |
| 00:19.09 | | kr is currently on #bzflag (2h 21m 15s). Has said a total of 35 messages. Is idling for 27m 6s |
| 00:20.14 | kroboto | anyone here know the exact text to enter for 'passthrough' and 'shootthrough' in a map for 1.10? |
| 00:20.23 | Grumbler | yes |
| 00:20.28 | kroboto | well? |
| 00:20.43 | kroboto | i'm trying to fix my maps |
| 00:21.09 | Grumbler | just add the words after the last entry...but before the end |
| 00:21.39 | Grumbler | pyramid |
| 00:21.40 | Grumbler | #!name Pyramid copy 11 |
| 00:21.40 | Grumbler | position -380 272.5 10 |
| 00:21.40 | Grumbler | rotation 45 |
| 00:21.40 | Grumbler | size 10 10 10 |
| 00:21.40 | Grumbler | shootthrough |
| 00:21.44 | Grumbler | drivethrough |
| 00:21.48 | Grumbler | end |
| 00:21.50 | Grumbler | same with flipz |
| 00:22.13 | kroboto | drivethrough huh? thats why! thanks |
| 00:22.27 | Grumbler | np |
| 00:22.43 | kroboto | flipz flips it instead of doing a negative Z setting? |
| 00:23.03 | captain_proton | kroboto: blame patlabor221 ;) |
| 00:23.39 | kroboto | if it fixes my maps i'd blame Defman! ;-) |
| 00:23.54 | kroboto | he isn't here to defend himself |
| 00:24.40 | kroboto | bzfs didn't complain, now for the test. |
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| 00:25.55 | Grumbler | kroboto: yes, this way you dont have to negate the x size to get the upside down pyramid to look normal |
| 00:26.58 | StargateSG1 | holy cow.. lots of players on rabbit hunt.. |
| 00:27.01 | captain_proton | speak of the devil |
| 00:27.16 | KR | Grumbler - stepped out - did you need me for something? |
| 00:27.21 | StargateSG1 | maybe I shouldn't be pegging my cpu with multiple builds at the same time.. |
| 00:27.22 | kroboto | cool. quick question tho, does the upside down pyramids reflect shots if not set to shootthrough? |
| 00:27.40 | Grumbler | kroboto: yes |
| 00:27.42 | Carnage | . |
| 00:28.03 | Grumbler | kroboto: and no i didnt need you for something, just answering about the flipz attribute |
| 00:28.07 | Grumbler | :) |
| 00:28.15 | kroboto | hehe, ideas are flooding in now! |
| 00:28.34 | kroboto | no level is safe form a laser! |
| 00:28.39 | kroboto | ^from |
| 00:29.12 | Grumbler | kroboto: there is a small bug with large upside down pyramids....it reflects in wierd spots......there is a fix now, but not public |
| 00:29.59 | Grumbler | StargateSG1: go man, go......compile all you want |
| 00:30.49 | kroboto | i'm thinking of one level of a map shooting and it does two 45 degree angles to nail the upper level |
| 00:32.54 | StargateSG1 | howdy carny |
| 00:35.50 | KR | where would xlibs be at, so I can determine which ones I have? |
| 00:36.02 | KR | version-wise |
| 00:36.52 | KR | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 00:36.52 | KR | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:36.58 | KR | sigh |
| 00:38.13 | kroboto | you'd have to upgrade X i believe |
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| 00:41.37 | Tupone | xlibs-dev I think are only giving /usr/include/GL/* |
| 00:41.55 | Tupone | sry: xlibmesa-dev |
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| 00:55.11 | KR | Tupone - I looked for package xlibsmesa-gl-dev could not find it |
| 00:55.23 | KR | which Debian are you using - woody, sarge, or sid? |
| 00:55.37 | Tupone | unstable |
| 00:56.00 | Tupone | xlibmesa-gl |
| 00:56.05 | Tupone | without s |
| 00:56.32 | KR | yes without s my typo |
| 00:57.19 | Tupone | I'm using dselect and I found xlibmesa-gl-dev |
| 00:57.23 | KR | this file is necessary in order to build 1.10 from source |
| 00:57.30 | KR | right? |
| 00:58.31 | Tupone | yeah, I look at xlibmesa and I'm able to find it |
| 00:58.44 | Tupone | if I look at xlibmesa-gl-dev no :( |
| 00:58.56 | Tupone | but it is there |
| 01:01.19 | KR | I see it but then I get that damned error that my xlibs are too new -......... |
| 01:01.25 | KR | argh why does that matter..... |
| 01:02.27 | Tupone | I'm trying to get them for you, so you get only the file needed, nothing to install. I hope |
| 01:03.35 | KR | the xlibs in this distro must be custom |
| 01:03.51 | KR | as the company which makes them are the maintainer |
| 01:04.07 | Tupone | I suppose you need only some include file, GL includes |
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| 01:07.16 | KR | the xlibs which are installed conflict with those that I need in order to compile rom source |
| 01:07.40 | Tupone | http://tupone.dyndns.org/tiki-download_file.php?fileId=14 |
| 01:07.43 | KR | Tupone - do you have a 1.10 deb? |
| 01:07.58 | StargateSG1 | anyone care to make a screenshot for me? |
| 01:08.07 | Tupone | no. I don't have X on that debian |
| 01:08.21 | StargateSG1 | I lost the link to the one's nid and scipio made |
| 01:08.33 | Tupone | StargateSG1: what question is? Sure if I can! |
| 01:08.45 | Tupone | KR get that link |
| 01:08.59 | StargateSG1 | tupone: need a cool screenshot of the bzflag playing field :) |
| 01:09.33 | Tupone | in action? How we do screenshot? remember me |
| 01:11.08 | StargateSG1 | yes in action |
| 01:11.16 | StargateSG1 | i don't know how most usually do a screenshot |
| 01:11.26 | StargateSG1 | xscreencapture if you're on x might work |
| 01:11.31 | KR | Tupone - I got it, where should I put the extracted folder? |
| 01:11.49 | Tupone | tar xzvf GL.tgz is enough |
| 01:12.21 | KR | yes, done that - do I put the untarred folder in a specific location so that make can see it? |
| 01:13.53 | KR | put it into /usr/include/GL... etc? |
| 01:15.36 | Tupone | I think they have to go by itself, however locatin are /usr/include/GL and /usr/X11R6/GL |
| 01:16.20 | Tupone | StargateSG1: what are the .raw files |
| 01:17.28 | StargateSG1 | probably raw rgb image datafiles |
| 01:17.31 | StargateSG1 | ala sgi format |
| 01:17.43 | StargateSG1 | that'll work for me, as long as you tell me your resolution :) |
| 01:17.44 | Tupone | I'm not able to see, you ? |
| 01:17.50 | Tupone | 1024x768 |
| 01:28.29 | Death_Barrel | match anyone? plz?? |
| 01:28.38 | Death_Barrel | we have not played a match in 6 days!! |
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| 01:34.27 | SGI | hi |
| 01:36.27 | StargateSG1 | hi sgi :) |
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| 01:44.50 | StargateSG1 | oh wow! |
| 01:44.59 | StargateSG1 | tupone, that second one looks amazing.. |
| 01:45.12 | Tupone | I wanna look at |
| 01:46.16 | StargateSG1 | http://brlcad.org/tmp/gm.png |
| 01:46.35 | StargateSG1 | the colors and glow on the wall.. nice |
| 01:47.43 | SGI | tupone what is that c3po\ |
| 01:48.15 | Tupone | where? |
| 01:48.31 | SGI | in the immage...close to pronto |
| 01:48.38 | SGI | image |
| 01:50.03 | Tupone | c3po is my nick :) |
| 01:50.17 | SGI | really |
| 01:50.19 | Tupone | from StarWars |
| 01:50.47 | SGI | I hate take scrm down ...normally are dark |
| 01:51.13 | Tupone | color are not good |
| 01:52.47 | kroboto | is that an inbound missle? if so, he's toast! |
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| 01:54.58 | Tupone | that is an outbound missile |
| 01:55.24 | StargateSG1 | but he was still toast :) |
| 01:55.59 | kroboto | hmm, with the 'flame' thingy in front it looks like the thrust from an inbound. |
| 01:57.06 | Tupone | could be. I remember this tank having GM |
| 01:58.17 | Death_Barrel | match anyone? |
| 01:58.28 | Death_Barrel | HoW vs anybody |
| 01:59.33 | SGI | anybody he/she is with invible man |
| 01:59.46 | SGI | invisible man |
| 02:00.19 | StargateSG1 | kroboto: that's just the start of a spining flame spiral that shoots outward from gm.. |
| 02:00.26 | StargateSG1 | it was outbound, though |
| 02:06.59 | Tupone | I'was starting to shoot at that GM all the loader. And finished, dead! |
| 02:07.03 | kroboto | yeah, i just checked on my server in 1.10. Looks good as long as it's not aiming for you. |
| 02:12.22 | Death_Barrel | KR? |
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| 02:21.50 | SGI | bye bye |
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| 02:30.36 | StargateSG1 | tupone.. here's the final: http://brlcad.org/tmp/installer.png |
| 02:31.29 | Tupone | beautiful |
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| 02:48.58 | SGI | back again |
| 02:49.30 | SGI | question ...there is any "private" server for a match with jump and more then 2 shots |
| 02:52.49 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/package/mac/notes (10 files): removed rather outdated and useless files regarding the mac build status |
| 02:55.22 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/package/mac (2 files): removed another old file (5 years old) |
| 02:56.20 | orchid | Tupone: poke |
| 02:56.28 | Tupone | peek |
| 02:56.48 | orchid | Tupone: is there a limit in linux shell to how many files you can mv at one time? |
| 02:56.58 | orchid | i want to mv 5000 files |
| 02:57.11 | orchid | but i get mv: too many arguments |
| 02:57.28 | Tupone | there is a limit on how big is a command line |
| 02:58.06 | orchid | mv *.mp3 ../ |
| 02:58.14 | orchid | bash: /bin/mv: Argument list too long |
| 02:58.24 | Tupone | when you give mv * a/ the shell try to look at all file satisfying the condition |
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| 02:58.34 | orchid | right |
| 02:58.38 | orchid | hi j |
| 02:58.44 | jolly | hey ang :) |
| 02:58.45 | Tupone | and then build a line with mv (all the list of files) ../ |
| 02:58.47 | orchid | so its a shell limit? |
| 02:58.53 | Tupone | yeah |
| 02:59.07 | Tupone | you can do with for |
| 02:59.11 | orchid | jolly: did you get the new bz version? |
| 02:59.25 | jolly | not yet |
| 02:59.28 | orchid | Tupone: no, i tried with "for i in *.mp3.... |
| 02:59.34 | learner | find . -name \*\.mp3 -exec mv {} ../ \; |
| 02:59.38 | orchid | Tupone: got the same error |
| 02:59.49 | Tupone | because shell expand |
| 03:00.24 | orchid | oh, learner that might be working, shells gone all quiet ;) |
| 03:00.34 | learner | it'll take a while :) |
| 03:00.44 | learner | since it has to do 5000 calls to mv |
| 03:00.46 | orchid | yay, it worked |
| 03:08.34 | orchid | ~dict lorry |
| 03:11.47 | learner | JB: http://www.arrogantbastard.com made the recent slashdot beer poll :) |
| 03:12.00 | learner | down in the comments |
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| 03:21.00 | Patlabor221 | it was from england too :( |
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| 03:36.29 | fiberchunks_ | allo |
| 03:36.30 | learner | howdy fiber :) |
| 03:36.33 | fiberchunks_ | heya |
| 03:36.44 | learner | how goes you? |
| 03:36.49 | orchid | hello fiberchunks |
| 03:36.59 | fiberchunks_ | well, thanks -- workin on ye ole xmas shoppin |
| 03:37.03 | fiberchunks_ | heya bzg :) |
| 03:37.20 | learner | you mean the newly remodeled house isn't enough? :) |
| 03:37.24 | fiberchunks_ | what's new in the bz world? |
| 03:37.38 | learner | 1.10.0 was released a few days ago |
| 03:37.44 | fiberchunks_ | heh, that's still in progress -- truck blew a brake line last week, and numerous other things :\ |
| 03:37.50 | fiberchunks_ | spiffy :) |
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| 03:38.38 | heinola | hello all |
| 03:38.39 | fiberchunks_ | still waiting for you to come up here and help me with sheetrock learner :) |
| 03:38.43 | fiberchunks_ | heya heinola |
| 03:38.51 | heinola | how goes |
| 03:38.57 | fiberchunks_ | good thx |
| 03:39.00 | fiberchunks_ | you? |
| 03:39.08 | heinola | ok here for a 56ker lol |
| 03:39.45 | heinola | grr |
| 03:39.56 | learner | hehe, fiber.. didn't know you were waiting |
| 03:40.10 | fiberchunks_ | want a train ticket slacker ? :) |
| 03:40.15 | heinola | mayby in jan i get a WISP |
| 03:40.22 | learner | hehe |
| 03:40.42 | heinola | wirless broad band about the same as dsl not land lines :) |
| 03:40.55 | heinola | and all will be good |
| 03:41.11 | fiberchunks_ | happy with dsl, though when I move to the 'out-country' I may be relegated to satellite :\ |
| 03:41.25 | Patlabor221 | eww sat |
| 03:41.29 | Patlabor221 | no P24 for you |
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| 03:41.47 | fiberchunks_ | how goes there Herr Labor? |
| 03:41.57 | heinola | the test on this celluar broadband looks good |
| 03:42.04 | fiberchunks_ | work stuff? |
| 03:42.09 | Patlabor221 | tho hopefully this will be the end of the year of hell |
| 03:42.10 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 03:42.15 | Patlabor221 | and some other stuff |
| 03:42.39 | heinola | maby i can serve some 6-8 player ctf |
| 03:42.41 | Patlabor221 | IT guy has cost the company about 300-500k in bis |
| 03:42.59 | fiberchunks_ | isn't that lovely |
| 03:43.04 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 03:43.15 | Patlabor221 | total loss of all core services |
| 03:43.23 | Patlabor221 | since last week |
| 03:43.29 | heinola | :o |
| 03:43.46 | fiberchunks_ | time for a new IT dude |
| 03:44.12 | heinola | and i think i have it bad trying to get broadband lol |
| 03:44.31 | fiberchunks_ | no cable in your area hein? |
| 03:44.34 | Patlabor221 | time for a new network infrastructure |
| 03:44.37 | heinola | nope |
| 03:44.45 | fiberchunks_ | wild |
| 03:45.01 | heinola | the phone Co spends oolds of gov grant money to |
| 03:45.11 | Patlabor221 | when your webserver has an IP in the same internal range as the rest of your network, that's not good |
| 03:45.21 | fiberchunks_ | heee :) |
| 03:45.47 | heinola | upgrade the phone & cable and never set up cable internet |
| 03:45.54 | heinola | drives mr nuts |
| 03:46.29 | heinola | get this i get a disconection notice before i get the phone bill for that month |
| 03:46.37 | fiberchunks_ | our local util co is debating putting in fiber all over the place (since I'm right down the street from Pfizer and Electric Boat), and jumping into the broadband game |
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| 03:47.11 | heinola | the bill and noitice are dated the same on envelope and letter heaD |
| 03:47.21 | KR | anyone have a .deb of 1.10 yet? |
| 03:47.33 | heinola | it drives me CRAZY |
| 03:47.35 | KR | I know I can get it from sid sources, but that wont work for me |
| 03:47.36 | heinola | lol |
| 03:47.37 | fiberchunks_ | they're just making _sure_ you pay the bill :) |
| 03:47.55 | heinola | soon ill be celluar i will not need land line |
| 03:48.07 | heinola | like many are doing allready |
| 03:48.21 | heinola | they arelosing $$$ big time allready |
| 03:48.25 | fiberchunks_ | I've been wondering about that vonage thingy -- but it requires a phone line as well? why not just get dsl -- seems silly |
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| 03:48.35 | fiberchunks_ | though I've not researched it that much |
| 03:49.31 | heinola | well my isp uses a 900Mhz celluar tranceiver on the watertower |
| 03:49.50 | heinola | im 3 miles + out of toen and he metered a clean signal |
| 03:49.56 | heinola | town sry |
| 03:50.47 | heinola | we are pulling 7/8 calbe in two towers next week for the two new towns he is expanding to :) |
| 03:51.00 | heinola | watertowers i mean |
| 03:51.57 | heinola | 150 feet of coax is going to get heavey |
| 03:53.06 | fiberchunks_ | only 150 feet? |
| 03:53.13 | heinola | at min |
| 03:53.16 | fiberchunks_ | ah |
| 03:53.54 | heinola | brb |
| 03:57.54 | heinola | :) |
| 03:58.24 | heinola | whats the next step up from DSL T1? |
| 03:58.48 | fiberchunks_ | depends |
| 03:58.55 | fiberchunks_ | fractional T1 I suppose |
| 03:59.01 | fiberchunks_ | or maybe SDSL |
| 03:59.11 | fiberchunks_ | Patlabor221: like the ranks on bzbb |
| 03:59.31 | Patlabor221 | I thought you would :) |
| 03:59.41 | heinola | wel when i win the minnesota lotery ill get a kicking conn lol |
| 04:01.27 | fiberchunks_ | although I miss my old, confusing style of rankage ;) |
| 04:01.39 | heinola | well i better go bust more tanks cya |
| 04:04.44 | fiberchunks_ | I didn't even realize it was the board birthday the other day -- fancy that, it survived a year :) |
| 04:12.17 | Patlabor221 | yeah it did survive |
| 04:12.26 | Patlabor221 | well the flags were very "in theme" |
| 04:12.36 | Patlabor221 | but I was working on logos |
| 04:12.46 | Patlabor221 | for another thing |
| 04:12.53 | Patlabor221 | and came up with the base for those |
| 04:13.16 | Patlabor221 | I figured I should use them |
| 04:13.17 | Patlabor221 | http://i.dslr.net/symantec/worse2.html |
| 04:13.19 | Patlabor221 | whops |
| 04:13.22 | Patlabor221 | wrong one |
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| 04:13.27 | Patlabor221 | http://p24.bakadigital.com/p24bb/viewtopic.php?t=29 |
| 04:13.32 | Patlabor221 | the first one is an IE bug :) |
| 04:14.22 | Patlabor221 | I think I want to make the outer lines on Colonel a bit thicker |
| 04:16.00 | Patlabor221 | you don't? |
| 04:16.05 | Patlabor221 | heck I do |
| 04:17.03 | learner | niet.. |
| 04:17.15 | learner | tis okay, I can work on the fink distro |
| 04:17.53 | Patlabor221 | you just cant send it to the SF ftp? |
| 04:17.58 | Patlabor221 | or you can't get into the admin? |
| 04:18.06 | learner | can't get into the admin |
| 04:18.16 | Patlabor221 | so it's up on the FTP now? |
| 04:18.17 | learner | jb's did the last one |
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| 04:21.41 | fiberchunks_ | gnite gents / ladies |
| 04:21.52 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 04:21.57 | learner | cya fiber |
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| 05:21.09 | learner | wow mac.. late entry tonight :) |
| 05:21.55 | Nidhoggr | hi learner, mac |
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| 05:24.00 | MrApathyCream | heya nids |
| 05:24.07 | MrApathyCream | hey learner |
| 05:24.10 | learner | howdy nid |
| 05:24.15 | Quol | howdy all |
| 05:24.25 | learner | hiya Q |
| 05:24.33 | Nidhoggr | any bug fixes since release that I should update for? |
| 05:24.47 | Quol | so - I just tried out 1.10...much bigger field, will make CTF interesting.. |
| 05:24.48 | learner | Nid: you have os x, right? |
| 05:25.06 | Nidhoggr | on one machine, learner. this machine is winderz |
| 05:25.10 | learner | care to test out the client build? |
| 05:25.17 | Nidhoggr | sure |
| 05:27.04 | learner | http://brlcad.org/tmp/BZFlag_1.10.0.dmg |
| 05:29.49 | MrApathyCream | Nidhoggr: about 10 or so |
| 05:30.06 | Nidhoggr | cool. |
| 05:32.49 | learner | Q, which server? :) |
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| 05:39.58 | Quol | learner: yours |
| 05:40.24 | Quol | the map looks HUGE |
| 05:41.08 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): more bugs |
| 05:47.17 | learner | Nidhoggr: what's your link? It shouldn't take more than 3 min to download |
| 05:48.01 | *** part/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@pcp05927753pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 05:52.30 | MrApathyCream | niteynite |
| 06:03.45 | Nidhoggr | well, mac client has a bug with the "o" key for doing admin stuff. |
| 06:03.59 | Nidhoggr | it is really erratic |
| 06:04.40 | Nidhoggr | otherwise it works MUCH better than old one. |
| 06:06.15 | MrApathyCream | nid? |
| 06:06.21 | Nidhoggr | ? |
| 06:06.31 | learner | but.. it worked? |
| 06:06.54 | Nidhoggr | everything but the o key. the ban command wouldn't show up at all. |
| 06:07.05 | learner | no problems installing and running? |
| 06:07.11 | Nidhoggr | nope |
| 06:07.13 | Nidhoggr | worked grat |
| 06:07.13 | Nidhoggr | great |
| 06:07.14 | learner | w00t! |
| 06:07.23 | learner | did you see a background image? |
| 06:07.28 | Nidhoggr | it was usable on my mac, and the old one didn't. |
| 06:07.33 | Nidhoggr | background image? |
| 06:07.44 | learner | when the .dmg mounted? |
| 06:07.59 | Nidhoggr | oh. I did that via vnc. I should go look. |
| 06:19.38 | Nidhoggr | didn't see anything when it mounted at all. |
| 06:19.52 | Nidhoggr | it mounts, installs the binary and quits, with no window. |
| 06:25.48 | MrApathyCream | wow, i think the rabbit selection algo is fubared |
| 06:26.00 | MrApathyCream | Playing on ducati and the leader has never been picked |
| 06:26.07 | MrApathyCream | it should be (wins - losses) * wins |
| 06:26.27 | MrApathyCream | not sure why it's messed up, but in any case, prolly should reconsider the algo |
| 06:27.33 | Nidhoggr | I also get the choppy audio mac bug. |
| 06:37.19 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): rabbit bug |
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| 06:54.07 | HEINOLA | hello |
| 06:55.02 | HEINOLA | should i upgrade to the 1.10.o |
| 06:55.11 | HEINOLA | 1.10.0 i mean |
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| 07:16.51 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 07:20.28 | MrApathyCream | howdy Patlabor221 |
| 07:21.31 | Patlabor221 | hallo |
| 07:21.40 | Patlabor221 | how goes it? |
| 07:21.59 | MrApathyCream | s'ok |
| 07:22.16 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 07:22.48 | MrApathyCream | BUGS is growing |
| 07:22.52 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 07:23.02 | MrApathyCream | but so are interested devs |
| 07:24.21 | Patlabor221 | are ya up to 2 hands now? |
| 07:24.32 | MrApathyCream | 2-1/2 i think |
| 07:24.45 | Patlabor221 | fun |
| 07:24.56 | Patlabor221 | so who is in charge of the SP? |
| 07:25.29 | MrApathyCream | Tim of course :| |
| 07:25.51 | MrApathyCream | there's a rabbit selection problem that's tickin' me off |
| 07:26.12 | MrApathyCream | very often the same player is picked for rabbit over and over |
| 07:26.18 | MrApathyCream | which was NOT intended |
| 07:26.21 | Patlabor221 | ahh so your SP will be on 6/19/04 ? |
| 07:26.27 | MrApathyCream | in fact should be illegal |
| 07:26.32 | MrApathyCream | prolly |
| 07:37.00 | MrApathyCream | hmmm pat, colliding with flipped pyr |
| 07:37.16 | MrApathyCream | i get to PyramidBuilding::getHitNormal |
| 07:37.18 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 07:37.25 | MrApathyCream | and the var flip == 0 |
| 07:37.38 | Patlabor221 | that can't be |
| 07:37.43 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:37.55 | Patlabor221 | I know it was Tuponerized |
| 07:37.57 | MrApathyCream | i have only one pyr in scene |
| 07:38.05 | MrApathyCream | and it's flipped |
| 07:38.17 | Patlabor221 | flip may be in the base object |
| 07:38.23 | Patlabor221 | I know it worked when I made it |
| 07:41.12 | MrApathyCream | hmmm |
| 07:41.18 | MrApathyCream | getHitNormal is changing it to 0 |
| 07:41.21 | MrApathyCream | it is 1 on entry |
| 07:41.33 | Patlabor221 | WTF |
| 07:41.38 | Patlabor221 | mem overrun? |
| 07:41.44 | Patlabor221 | or is it explicit? |
| 07:42.34 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:42.38 | MrApathyCream | does this look wrong to you |
| 07:42.39 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:42.39 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:42.39 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:42.39 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:42.39 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:42.40 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:42.47 | MrApathyCream | flip is 1 so oHeight is negated |
| 07:42.50 | Patlabor221 | WTF? |
| 07:42.56 | MrApathyCream | then the next if turns off flip |
| 07:42.58 | Patlabor221 | that is bad |
| 07:43.10 | Patlabor221 | it's an atempt to shift the pyramid |
| 07:43.15 | MrApathyCream | and sets oHeight to pos again |
| 07:43.16 | Patlabor221 | that's suposed to be done in the map reader |
| 07:43.19 | Patlabor221 | the silly bastards |
| 07:43.37 | Patlabor221 | did larsl do that? |
| 07:43.41 | MrApathyCream | dunno |
| 07:43.58 | MrApathyCream | PyramidBuilding.cxx line 223 |
| 07:44.02 | Patlabor221 | to me that looks wrong |
| 07:44.06 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 07:44.07 | MrApathyCream | me too |
| 07:44.15 | Patlabor221 | guess it's a feture |
| 07:44.22 | Patlabor221 | or just noone likes my code |
| 07:44.38 | Patlabor221 | I had it working cept for shots not stoping when they went into the ground |
| 07:44.38 | MrApathyCream | maybe at the least should be an else if |
| 07:45.11 | MrApathyCream | so are heights always positive now? |
| 07:45.21 | MrApathyCream | or at least supposed to be? |
| 07:45.21 | Patlabor221 | well having one below the world is silly |
| 07:45.27 | Patlabor221 | but all that should be done at map parse time |
| 07:45.32 | Patlabor221 | not at collide time |
| 07:45.41 | MrApathyCream | so the heigtht > 0, and flipz may be one |
| 07:45.43 | Patlabor221 | do it once, and set the data |
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| 07:47.35 | MrApathyCream | can you (will you) fix? or should i post a bug |
| 07:47.47 | Patlabor221 | it looks like a LOT changed in there |
| 07:47.57 | Patlabor221 | I am no longer familar |
| 07:48.04 | MrApathyCream | ok, i'll post a bug |
| 07:48.07 | Patlabor221 | I would ask tupone to take a look |
| 07:48.09 | Patlabor221 | he was the last one in there |
| 07:48.20 | Patlabor221 | and my brain is prety much jelly |
| 07:48.34 | Patlabor221 | this was my 12th day in a row working 8+ hours a day |
| 07:48.47 | Patlabor221 | did 60 hours in the past 6 days |
| 07:50.23 | MrApathyCream | 8+ ? :) |
| 07:50.36 | MrApathyCream | release going out? |
| 07:50.52 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 07:50.58 | Patlabor221 | IT boyo busted mail |
| 07:51.01 | Patlabor221 | and web |
| 07:51.03 | Patlabor221 | and FTP |
| 07:51.06 | Patlabor221 | and logins |
| 07:51.14 | Patlabor221 | and anything else he got his hands on |
| 07:51.30 | MrApathyCream | job security |
| 07:51.34 | Patlabor221 | I've been on dammage controll |
| 07:51.43 | Patlabor221 | actualy he may be fired for incompetence |
| 07:52.26 | Patlabor221 | his inital explenation was that we were being "hacked" from somone at an IP of 127.0.0.1 |
| 07:52.45 | MrApathyCream | hehehehe |
| 07:53.09 | Patlabor221 | he was saying the hacker was REALLY good cus he could not nslookup it |
| 07:54.53 | MrApathyCream | i would think you were kidding if i didn't work with clowns |
| 07:55.37 | Patlabor221 | how do these people get jobs? |
| 07:57.08 | MrApathyCream | i wonder every day |
| 08:00.46 | Patlabor221 | who? |
| 08:01.08 | MrApathyCream | "And when it comes to spawning, they set it so you come in backwards on a corner wall, and you get killed before you can turn around." |
| 08:01.20 | Patlabor221 | mail list? |
| 08:01.23 | MrApathyCream | https://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=2331669 |
| 08:02.33 | Patlabor221 | good lord does he not know how to use a CR. |
| 08:02.48 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 08:02.56 | Patlabor221 | wow KM | SB must be rather bored |
| 08:03.04 | MrApathyCream | i think the implication is that he didn't take a breath why writing it |
| 08:03.36 | Patlabor221 | well it's not the place for that stuff, and now it's gone |
| 08:03.44 | captain_proton | aww, i wanted to read :( |
| 08:04.04 | Patlabor221 | you don't get the mail? |
| 08:04.15 | Patlabor221 | I should have it |
| 08:04.16 | captain_proton | hm, i may have deleted it |
| 08:05.32 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: i'll resend |
| 08:05.38 | Patlabor221 | want me to forward it to you? |
| 08:06.17 | MrApathyCream | sent |
| 08:07.33 | MrApathyCream | now thats fun |
| 08:08.12 | Patlabor221 | gotta have an auth key |
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| 08:12.09 | MrApathyCream | so Patlabor221, the height of a pyramid will never be negative now? |
| 08:12.23 | Patlabor221 | all dimensions are positive |
| 08:12.29 | Patlabor221 | the map reader takes care of that |
| 08:12.33 | MrApathyCream | ok thanks |
| 08:12.38 | Patlabor221 | keeps the colision code all happy |
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| 08:18.53 | MrApathyCream | used to |
| 08:18.55 | MrApathyCream | anyway |
| 08:19.03 | Patlabor221 | that was the design idea |
| 08:19.05 | MrApathyCream | it would seem if flipz |
| 08:19.14 | MrApathyCream | is 1, then we should just change the collision point |
| 08:19.24 | MrApathyCream | and then flip the normal |
| 08:19.27 | Patlabor221 | the flag was just suposed to change drawing and colision orientation |
| 08:19.33 | Patlabor221 | allt he size were to be "real" |
| 08:19.46 | Patlabor221 | yeah, just check difrently |
| 08:20.04 | MrApathyCream | so if pyr is from 5 to 15 in z, and the collision is at 7, then just make colision at 13 |
| 08:20.11 | Patlabor221 | the negitive scale was making the normals be totaly off, not just fliped in Z |
| 08:20.11 | MrApathyCream | and then flip the normal z |
| 08:20.18 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 08:24.55 | MrApathyCream | it would see that many hands are in PyramidBuilding |
| 08:25.14 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 08:25.21 | Patlabor221 | it is a playground |
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| 09:01.28 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 09:02.27 | MrApathyCream | well off to bed |
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| 10:48.42 | Neci | hi i have one question |
| 10:49.13 | Neci | can i use bots in bzfs server? |
| 10:58.25 | Pimpinella | there was a -solo option for bzflag, dont know if it is still in there and how it works. If u started bzflag with -solo 5 e.g. and started bzfs via menu there were bots in there. it shouldnt be part of bzfs however |
| 11:00.11 | Neci | ok thanks i try it but we have a little problem but win clients don't connect to my linux client only to bzfs no with client in game |
| 11:03.21 | Pimpinella | hä? |
| 11:03.29 | Pimpinella | u speak german? |
| 11:04.31 | Pimpinella | Neci: or try to explain in other words again |
| 11:05.32 | Pimpinella | u have a win-client and a linux-client, but where is bfzs running? |
| 11:05.57 | Pimpinella | how r they connected |
| 11:08.25 | Pimpinella | the -solo option for bzflag works on non-local servers too, just checked it out |
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| 12:11.23 | niksie | Hey |
| 12:15.34 | Pimpinella | qsuexit |
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| 12:26.22 | niksie | hey |
| 12:26.33 | niksie | I'm trying to build the new bzflag on macos X |
| 12:26.39 | niksie | I get this error: |
| 12:26.39 | niksie | make[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'. |
| 12:26.40 | niksie | make[4]: *** No rule to make target `MacPlatformFactory.cxx', needed by `MacPlatformFactory.o'. Stop. |
| 12:26.50 | niksie | I just want the unix version.. |
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| 12:37.26 | Tupone | niksie: where you got the source? |
| 12:38.50 | Pimpinella | is the 1.10-client slower than 1.7? |
| 12:39.07 | Tupone | a little slower |
| 12:39.09 | Pimpinella | i dont get the framerates i used to |
| 12:39.58 | niksie | from the site |
| 12:40.10 | niksie | bzflag-1.10.20031209.tar |
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| 12:40.33 | Tupone | for a problem on making the tar, some files are missing, can you get from cvs? |
| 12:40.54 | niksie | sure |
| 12:41.31 | Tupone | these are under src/platform/MacOSX or something like that |
| 12:41.38 | niksie | ok |
| 12:41.57 | Tupone | you'll see that MacPlatformFactory.cxx |
| 12:42.15 | niksie | hmm, ok |
| 12:42.26 | niksie | I will just get the whole thing from CVS |
| 12:43.00 | Tupone | remember that CVS is lagged, and not just 500 msec |
| 12:43.34 | Tupone | but those files are there from a lot of time |
| 12:44.31 | niksie | heh, ok |
| 12:50.40 | niksie | there is no stable tarball I can download? |
| 12:51.09 | Manu_1 | Hi all! |
| 12:51.53 | Tupone | niksie: no but I can make it |
| 12:52.03 | niksie | strange |
| 12:52.07 | niksie | CVS doesn't work for me either |
| 12:52.13 | niksie | config.status: error: cannot find input file: package/mac/notes/Makefile.in |
| 12:52.28 | Tupone | heve you got Makefile.am ? |
| 12:53.18 | niksie | yup |
| 12:53.20 | niksie | in the bzflag dir |
| 12:54.43 | Tupone | on packacke/notes |
| 12:54.52 | Tupone | on package/mac/notes |
| 12:57.42 | Tupone | http://bzflag.tupone.dyndns.org/bzflag-1.10.1.20031211.tar.gz |
| 12:58.20 | Tupone | niksie: get this |
| 13:02.13 | Tupone | Manu_1: your server? is seen by listserver? |
| 13:02.40 | Manu_1 | only if i register it by hand... (sending command ADD by telnet) :( |
| 13:03.11 | Manu_1 | my bzfs send the comand to the listserver but the listserver don't register it... |
| 13:03.28 | Tupone | do you mind trying building it with my file /|\ |
| 13:04.05 | Manu_1 | Yes... yesterday learner and me was testing a lot of options. My server run fine but the list server refuse to register it |
| 13:04.23 | Tupone | this is the last CVS version. |
| 13:04.35 | Manu_1 | Yes.... from 20 minutes... |
| 13:04.51 | Tupone | I cannot support now, cause I'm leaving. |
| 13:05.21 | Manu_1 | I have write some debug code in the source to test it... and the command is sending ok to the listserver... :( |
| 13:05.32 | Manu_1 | No problem... |
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| 13:21.38 | Pimpinella | su |
| 13:33.18 | niksie | thanks Tupone |
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| 14:16.52 | KR | m00 |
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| 14:59.30 | Chestal | hi orchid, how's your flu? |
| 14:59.47 | orchid | hi |
| 14:59.52 | orchid | its still bad |
| 15:00.05 | orchid | i have cold shivers then sweat :( |
| 15:00.33 | Chestal | some of my friends are ill, too, I myself had a cold already earlier this year and I refuse to get sick again |
| 15:01.29 | orchid | i wish i was able to "refuse" |
| 15:02.14 | Chestal | it's bad enough I got sick at all. I had a period of about 2 years without |
| 15:03.08 | orchid | i get the flu all the time for some reason |
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| 15:05.20 | learner | niksie: ping |
| 15:05.45 | orchid | Chestal: i found the bunny hunt odd on your server last night |
| 15:06.05 | orchid | i played for about 20 mins, and didnt get to be the rabbit once |
| 15:06.33 | Chestal | orchid: maybe all players had a negative score? |
| 15:07.17 | orchid | nope, i was leading but only with 12 or so points, next guy had 8, then 6 then 5 or 4 more with - score |
| 15:07.39 | Chestal | the current formula is a bit strange, we shoudl reconsider it |
| 15:07.39 | orchid | the guy behind me with 8 points kept getting to be rabbit |
| 15:07.52 | Chestal | was he playing for a longer time then you were? |
| 15:07.56 | orchid | MAC was there also |
| 15:08.06 | orchid | no he wasnt playing longer than me |
| 15:08.14 | Chestal | hmm |
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| 15:15.37 | Pimpinella | is the rabbit choosen by random? |
| 15:15.58 | learner | no |
| 15:16.12 | orchid | its (wins - losses) * wins? |
| 15:16.22 | orchid | or something like that |
| 15:16.28 | learner | something like that |
| 15:17.11 | Pimpinella | so a strong player will be rabbit? |
| 15:17.12 | learner | basically supposed to be person with the best kill ratio that is still alive |
| 15:18.51 | niksie | pong |
| 15:19.17 | learner | niksie: http://brlcad.org/tmp/BZFlag_1.10.0.dmg |
| 15:19.30 | niksie | thanks |
| 15:19.49 | niksie | should put that on the site |
| 15:19.51 | learner | i'm still need to prettify it |
| 15:20.04 | learner | tell me how the install goes.. |
| 15:20.13 | niksie | install?\ |
| 15:20.19 | niksie | why an install? |
| 15:20.23 | learner | i set a background image, but I think it is unused when I "internet enable" it |
| 15:20.46 | learner | install == drag and drop to where you want |
| 15:21.09 | niksie | heh ok |
| 15:21.32 | learner | if you can think of anything critical for me to put into a readme, lemme know |
| 15:21.41 | niksie | ok |
| 15:21.53 | learner | I permanently disabled lighting since it's catastrophic right now |
| 15:22.26 | niksie | hmm |
| 15:22.46 | niksie | wait a sec |
| 15:22.47 | learner | hmm.. i lie.. i see that I can set it now.. not good |
| 15:22.50 | niksie | brb |
| 15:29.25 | niksie | isn't it just an executable? |
| 15:29.28 | niksie | I like the icon |
| 15:29.36 | niksie | too bad windowed mode doesn't work |
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| 15:49.52 | SGI | nhello everyone |
| 15:50.19 | SGI | aaaaaaaahhh this n |
| 15:50.46 | Tupone | hello |
| 15:50.52 | SGI | ciao tupone |
| 15:51.01 | Tupone | ciao |
| 15:51.21 | SGI | hi Quol how are you |
| 15:52.44 | SGI | PEOPLE BUSY TODAY EH |
| 15:53.07 | learner | hello |
| 15:53.28 | SGI | good nes...shellshock is ok |
| 15:53.34 | SGI | goos news |
| 15:54.11 | learner | you mean dutchrai? |
| 15:54.36 | learner | shell shock, the website, is still down it seems |
| 15:54.41 | Tupone | hello learner |
| 15:54.41 | SGI | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.06 | SGI | hem lp my daughter tyiping on the keyboard |
| 15:55.12 | learner | hehee |
| 15:55.19 | SGI | poor mou7se |
| 15:55.25 | SGI | 8/// |
| 15:55.27 | learner | hello preciosa :) |
| 15:55.51 | SGI | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.59 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 15:55.59 | learner | =) |
| 15:56.12 | *** part/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@pcp05927753pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 15:56.21 | learner | oops.. f12 :) |
| 15:56.28 | [dmp] | "This was your first word", "This is your first schoolday", "this was your first irc-session" .. |
| 15:56.31 | [dmp] | f12? :) |
| 15:56.36 | *** join/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@pcp05927753pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 15:56.53 | learner | [dmp], hit f12 :) |
| 15:57.06 | SGI | oppslitlej kkkkfm,.fee. |
| 15:57.16 | SGI | ...opps little fingers |
| 15:57.27 | learner | on most clients, that will close the channel |
| 15:57.37 | learner | not mine, though :/ |
| 15:57.56 | learner | SGI, did he call you back? |
| 15:58.08 | [dmp] | gaim dosnt close anything either |
| 15:58.13 | learner | ah |
| 15:58.32 | learner | perhaps just xchta |
| 15:59.43 | SGI | yes I caleed and he so busy |
| 15:59.48 | SGI | called |
| 16:00.02 | learner | ah, well good that he's okay |
| 16:00.05 | learner | good news |
| 16:00.25 | learner | shame he couldn't tar.gz up the site, though |
| 16:00.38 | [dmp] | Its offline? |
| 16:00.38 | SGI | -="k 6tj55 g ) |
| 16:00.46 | learner | yea, he let it expire |
| 16:00.58 | SGI | I cant to write |
| 16:01.17 | SGI | the keyboard is under my daughter control |
| 16:01.31 | SGI | I have it |
| 16:02.08 | SGI | and is so funny to see this little monkey jumpintygbfxg non my keyboard |
| 16:02.21 | SGI | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.29 | SGI | and she talking too |
| 16:02.36 | SGI | tthe keyboard |
| 16:02.38 | learner | heh |
| 16:02.50 | learner | now if it'd only talk back to her :) |
| 16:03.00 | SGI | m j lol |
| 16:04.41 | SGI | ok now is bette to go |
| 16:04.47 | SGI | talk you later |
| 16:04.50 | SGI | bye |
| 16:04.57 | learner | cya |
| 16:05.03 | learner | bye bye little one |
| 16:05.11 | *** part/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@pcp05927753pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 16:26.33 | learner | is that stuff all deprecated? or is it still used? |
| 16:26.48 | Tupone | Mac packages |
| 16:26.58 | Tupone | ? |
| 16:27.02 | learner | hmm? |
| 16:27.11 | Tupone | hmm? |
| 16:28.03 | Tupone | ~dict wry |
| 16:28.06 | learner | if it's active, then why is debian/ not in packages/... |
| 16:29.27 | Tupone | debian is the preferred machine, so need a place |
| 16:29.34 | learner | lol |
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| 16:31.40 | Tupone | When I did automake I left alone that branch :) I haven't considered (cuz is very strange & specialistic) |
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| 16:38.29 | Tupone | ciao bzg |
| 16:38.38 | bzgirl | hi |
| 16:39.20 | *** join/#bzflag orchid (~bzgirl@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 16:42.01 | orchid | !netcraft bzflag.org |
| 16:42.03 | Guu | orchid: bzflag.org is running Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.1.2 on Linux. |
| 16:42.23 | orchid | !netcraft brlcad.org |
| 16:42.32 | Guu | orchid: brlcad.org is running Apache/1.3.28 (Darwin) PHP/4.3.2 mod_perl/1.26 on MacOSX. |
| 16:42.44 | Tupone | !netcraft tupone.dyndns.org |
| 16:42.51 | Guu | Tupone: tupone.dyndns.org is running Apache/1.3.29 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.3 mod_ssl/2.8.16 OpenSSL/0.9.7c on Linux. |
| 16:43.23 | orchid | !weather CYYZ |
| 16:43.27 | Guu | orchid: The current temperature in Toronto Pearson Intl., Ontario is -4°C. Conditions: Partly Cloudy |
| 16:43.56 | orchid | !acronym php |
| 16:43.58 | Guu | orchid: php could be PHP Hypertext Preprocessor (server-side scripting language), or Pan Head Phillips (screw fasteners), or Parallel History Project on NATO and the Warsaw Pact (international security consortium), or Parents Helping Parents, or Partial Hospitalization Program, or Past High Priest, or PCI Hot Plug, or Penultimate Hop Pop (MPLS), or People's Heritage Party (2 more messages) |
| 16:44.40 | Tupone | !acronym Guu |
| 16:44.42 | Guu | Tupone: Guu could be Glasgow University Union |
| 16:47.12 | learner | yikes.. that's cold |
| 16:47.51 | learner | ~convert -4 c to f |
| 16:49.18 | learner | ~weather kapg |
| 16:49.53 | learner | ah, so about 25 f |
| 16:50.04 | Tupone | just a little ici |
| 16:50.12 | orchid | !coin |
| 16:50.13 | Guu | orchid: heads |
| 16:50.13 | learner | a lil, yeah |
| 16:50.16 | *** join/#bzflag |tim| (~|tim|@ip68-106-184-191.sb.sd.cox.net) |
| 16:50.30 | learner | heh, did you win? |
| 16:50.34 | orchid | yes :) |
| 16:51.26 | *** join/#bzflag CIA (CIA@cia.utility.freenode) |
| 16:51.57 | *** join/#bzflag CIA (CIA@cia.utility.freenode) |
| 17:02.32 | *** join/#bzflag Guu (~girlbot@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 17:03.16 | *** join/#bzflag sbo123 (~cgiirc@66.62.140.111) |
| 17:03.22 | sbo123 | hi, all! |
| 17:03.28 | orchid | hello |
| 17:03.41 | sbo123 | does anyone here know of a public server that's updated to the new 1.10.0? |
| 17:03.53 | sbo123 | hi, orchid |
| 17:04.06 | orchid | just start the client, many servers are running 1.10 |
| 17:04.21 | sbo123 | orchid: how do I query, then? |
| 17:04.24 | orchid | well, several |
| 17:04.26 | sbo123 | sorry, new to the game |
| 17:04.29 | orchid | oh |
| 17:04.41 | sbo123 | any time I've run it, I've chosen a locked server |
| 17:04.55 | orchid | well, strart bzflag, and then "join game" |
| 17:04.58 | sbo123 | or I've been kicked immediately after joining (???) |
| 17:05.03 | orchid | "find server" |
| 17:05.09 | orchid | really? kicked for what? |
| 17:05.17 | sbo123 | no clue |
| 17:05.22 | sbo123 | hadn't time to do anything |
| 17:05.49 | sbo123 | or maybe I'm just remembering some password-protected servers that seemed to kick me *after* I had joined |
| 17:05.56 | orchid | there are 2 pages of servers in my list |
| 17:06.00 | sbo123 | orchid: find server gives me nothing |
| 17:06.16 | orchid | sbo123: just let it wait, it takes a few seconds |
| 17:06.18 | KR | sbo123 - what name are you using as a callsign? |
| 17:06.32 | *** join/#bzflag Manu_1 (~Manu_1@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:06.34 | KR | yes - it takes >5 seconds for the list to show |
| 17:06.36 | sbo123 | alrighty, orchid |
| 17:06.36 | orchid | hi kr, did you get it to build finally? |
| 17:06.43 | sbo123 | KR: Nothingman |
| 17:06.45 | Manu_1 | Hi! |
| 17:06.51 | KR | well, thats a loooong story :) |
| 17:06.58 | sbo123 | KR: is there a specific callsign I should/shouldn't use? |
| 17:07.02 | KR | short answer - no :) |
| 17:07.16 | sbo123 | I mean, as a new player, is there anything I should know? |
| 17:07.37 | orchid | dont use an obscene call sign basicallly |
| 17:07.39 | KR | sbo - just wonderd - I had someone on my server earlier who logged in, and immediately got kicked off, and it looks like they tried several moire times |
| 17:07.58 | KR | their name was "colin" tho |
| 17:08.11 | orchid | oh, last night sever people got speed kicked from Chestal's server |
| 17:08.19 | KR | I was hopping it was you so I could find out if you got a server message as to why the kick happened |
| 17:08.27 | sbo123 | sorry, waited a full minute and no servers showed... |
| 17:08.57 | orchid | sbo123: thats odd, your net connection is fine? |
| 17:09.10 | orchid | sbo123: enter this in the server feild: |
| 17:09.15 | KR | try here sbo - my server - 24.168.235.54 port 5154 |
| 17:09.16 | sbo123 | orchid: talking through IRC OK, browsing OK, IMs OK |
| 17:09.43 | orchid | sbo123: ducati.bzflag.org |
| 17:09.47 | sbo123 | thx, KR |
| 17:09.50 | learner | sbo123: don't use learner :) |
| 17:09.53 | orchid | sbo123: port 59155 |
| 17:10.13 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-224-112.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 17:10.18 | KR | hi DTR |
| 17:10.19 | sbo123 | oh, crap |
| 17:10.20 | sbo123 | forgot |
| 17:10.24 | sbo123 | I'm behind a firewall |
| 17:10.35 | KR | lol |
| 17:10.39 | sbo123 | they've probably got every port blocked but the ones I'm already using |
| 17:10.42 | DTRemenak | hello |
| 17:10.45 | KR | its the little things that get ya :) |
| 17:10.48 | *** part/#bzflag Manu_1 (~Manu_1@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:11.17 | KR | bzg - the build seemed to work, but it wouldn't build a client because GLX wouldn't load |
| 17:11.42 | KR | I got 1.10 installed the other day via an .rpm and alien |
| 17:11.46 | sbo123 | but that's odd, some give me the "incompatible server version" error |
| 17:11.50 | sbo123 | so it can't be the firewall |
| 17:11.58 | orchid | i thought you were on debian based os KR? |
| 17:12.13 | KR | someone told me there were some bugfixes in the source yesterday, so I tried to upgrade |
| 17:12.23 | KR | yes - debian - built a deb from the rpm |
| 17:12.25 | orchid | sbo123: your using the release version or cvs? |
| 17:12.35 | sbo123 | orchid: the release |
| 17:12.40 | orchid | hmm |
| 17:12.54 | sbo123 | was surprised to see Gentoo had it just after I read about the new version on happypenguin ;) |
| 17:12.55 | orchid | !debian version bzflag |
| 17:12.57 | Guu | orchid: Error: Packages.debian.org is down at the moment. Please try again later. |
| 17:13.01 | sbo123 | pleasantly |
| 17:13.04 | sbo123 | and sexually |
| 17:13.06 | sbo123 | ;) |
| 17:13.36 | orchid | *awkward silence* |
| 17:13.41 | sbo123 | heh |
| 17:13.42 | sbo123 | sorry |
| 17:13.50 | sbo123 | guy on my floor was saying it all semester |
| 17:13.56 | sbo123 | at the end of any sentence |
| 17:13.59 | KR | bzg - trying to get the deb from sid sources would have "upgraded" my kernel headers, which would hose this install |
| 17:14.03 | sbo123 | well, I'm gonna help someone pack |
| 17:14.10 | KR | so I couldn't apt-get it |
| 17:14.28 | orchid | why would it want to update kernel headers? |
| 17:15.06 | KR | dunno - I tried 76 different ways from sunday to get it to install without new kernel headers at the same time, and it wouldn't |
| 17:15.17 | KR | synaptic, kpackage, dselect, apt.... |
| 17:16.00 | KR | all of them, when using sid, required the kernel headers |
| 17:16.53 | orchid | oh right |
| 17:17.01 | Tupone | KR: I built a client for debian (don't know if work) : http://bzflag.tupone.dyndns.org/bzflag |
| 17:17.10 | KR | yay! ;) |
| 17:18.22 | Tupone | and also had the CVS source already autoconfed http://bzflag.tupone.dyndns.org/bzflag-1.10.1.20031211.tar.gz actually is a 1.10.1 |
| 17:18.37 | Tupone | I should go! bye |
| 17:18.40 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-217-133-162-239.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 17:18.43 | KR | Tupone : that page loads as code |
| 17:18.51 | KR | ..... |
| 17:19.22 | KR | I tried appending .deb to the URL but that didnt work either |
| 17:20.52 | KR | orchid - did u try my fast-CTF server yet? |
| 17:20.58 | orchid | no not yet |
| 17:21.13 | KR | its a hoot - I laugh the whole time playing there |
| 17:21.52 | KR | had to stop the other night because at tank speed 300 I was laughing so hard that my eyes were tearing up :) |
| 17:21.52 | orchid | i will later |
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| 17:21.57 | orchid | heh |
| 17:21.59 | KR | hi Jag |
| 17:22.02 | Jaguar503n | hi |
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| 17:22.13 | KR | beep me when you do and I will meet you there :) |
| 17:22.19 | orchid | k |
| 17:22.20 | Jaguar503n | is there a ducati server for 1.10? |
| 17:22.23 | Skipp | any teams want to play the bips in a match |
| 17:22.26 | KR | wow long time Skipp - how ya been? |
| 17:22.41 | Skipp | hey kr, yeah long time, school has kept me busy |
| 17:22.50 | Skipp | what's up with u |
| 17:22.55 | KR | Jag - my fast-CTF server is here 24.168.235.54 port 5154 |
| 17:23.04 | KR | just fiddlin with the 'puter |
| 17:23.27 | Skipp | kr: when u have some time check out http://www.geocities.com/bzflag_bips |
| 17:23.31 | KR | did BiPs upgrade to 1.10 yet? |
| 17:23.38 | KR | ok will look now |
| 17:23.39 | Skipp | sign the guestbook |
| 17:23.43 | KR | okies |
| 17:23.46 | Skipp | yeah i upgraded |
| 17:23.51 | Skipp | just yesterday |
| 17:24.09 | KR | try my server out, c what you think of it :) |
| 17:24.17 | Skipp | on 1.10 |
| 17:24.53 | KR | yes - its a 1.10 |
| 17:25.02 | Skipp | will check it out then |
| 17:25.09 | KR | will bookmark your site - need to install flash |
| 17:25.23 | KR | been avoiding it :) |
| 17:25.32 | Skipp | k |
| 17:26.04 | KR | did you see my server address up there ^ |
| 17:26.12 | KR | right when u logged in |
| 17:26.33 | Skipp | no, i don't think so |
| 17:26.42 | KR | 24.168.235.54 port 5154 |
| 17:26.52 | KR | its on the server list, too |
| 17:27.26 | Skipp | k |
| 17:32.39 | *** part/#bzflag drinian (~drinian@pcp03995358pcs.hamntn01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 17:38.18 | Skipp | nice server kr, i like the high speed effect |
| 17:42.11 | KR | just saw you were there - meet me there for a couple minutes? |
| 17:44.23 | Skipp | i am on ducati with badin at the moment |
| 17:45.07 | *** join/#bzflag Manu_1 (~Manu_1@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:48.50 | Manu_1 | msg |
| 17:53.43 | *** part/#bzflag Skipp (~Skipp@c-24-9-66-174.client.comcast.net) |
| 17:59.25 | *** join/#bzflag Gorilla_ (~george@202.6.150.37) |
| 18:11.54 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-133-132.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 18:12.51 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-67-115-244-17.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 18:12.51 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 18:23.19 | *** join/#bzflag Chestal (thilo@paranuss.informatik.uni-siegen.de) |
| 18:23.19 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Chestal] by ChanServ |
| 18:23.41 | Chestal | Patlabor221: you alive? |
| 18:24.02 | Patlabor221 | I am |
| 18:24.32 | Chestal | Patlabor221: did you figure out all 8 invisibles this week? |
| 18:24.50 | Patlabor221 | I did not get a chance too |
| 18:24.56 | Patlabor221 | I have worked 12 days in a row |
| 18:25.00 | Patlabor221 | 8+ a day |
| 18:25.03 | Chestal | in one week? ;-) |
| 18:25.11 | Chestal | too bad |
| 18:25.11 | Patlabor221 | it seems like it :) |
| 18:25.22 | Chestal | there's 2 I cannot figure out |
| 18:25.32 | Patlabor221 | ~invisibles |
| 18:25.36 | | hmm... invisibles is at http://www.filmwise.com/invisibles/index.shtml |
| 18:25.42 | Patlabor221 | what 2? |
| 18:25.45 | Chestal | 3 and 8 missing |
| 18:26.04 | Patlabor221 | they don't look familiar to me |
| 18:31.30 | *** join/#bzflag AAA (~cgiirc@66.62.140.111) |
| 18:33.58 | *** join/#bzflag nifgraup (~nifgraup@a54.starfsm.hi.is) |
| 18:34.09 | AAA | hi |
| 18:34.34 | learner | howdy AAA |
| 18:34.46 | AAA | you new? |
| 18:35.04 | AAA | to bzflag, i mean? |
| 18:35.17 | learner | nope |
| 18:35.19 | learner | you? |
| 18:35.29 | AAA | no |
| 18:35.52 | learner | :) |
| 18:36.05 | learner | We should joust sometime :) |
| 18:36.32 | AAA | how long you been playing |
| 18:36.32 | Chestal | file server is down for maintenance,not sure if it affects ducati yet |
| 18:37.34 | learner | AAA: played the old battlezone/bz back in the day, but about a year and a few months with bzflag |
| 18:37.46 | AAA | ya like the new flags? |
| 18:38.08 | learner | sure, why not |
| 18:38.20 | AAA | lol |
| 18:38.26 | learner | you? |
| 18:38.36 | AAA | yup |
| 18:38.43 | nifgraup | hi, I installed Bzflag-10.0.0 on Gentoo and there is no bzflag binary program anymore, only bzfs and bzfrelay. How do I start the program? |
| 18:38.45 | learner | glad to hear it |
| 18:38.47 | AAA | exept mabye useless |
| 18:38.58 | learner | heh |
| 18:39.11 | AAA | installing bzflag? |
| 18:39.17 | Patlabor221 | nifgraup: when you ran configure did it tell you that you didn't have openGL? |
| 18:39.33 | learner | I tried adding a new dodge flag right before release, but couldn't squeze it in in time |
| 18:40.22 | AAA | are you actually part of the bzflag project? |
| 18:40.40 | nifgraup | Patlabor221: gentoo uses automatic compiling system.. I will check what the configure flags it used... |
| 18:40.57 | learner | I would like to think that I was given the shiny @ for a reason |
| 18:41.17 | Patlabor221 | so gentoo will install libs you don't have when you run automake and autoconf? |
| 18:41.18 | AAA | you an admin |
| 18:41.30 | AAA | learner, i mean? |
| 18:41.35 | Patlabor221 | he's something, we don't know what yet :) |
| 18:41.42 | learner | :) |
| 18:41.54 | AAA | lol |
| 18:42.00 | AAA | LOL |
| 18:42.15 | nifgraup | Patlabor221: yes |
| 18:42.15 | learner | I do enjoy writing code |
| 18:42.55 | Patlabor221 | impresive |
| 18:43.03 | learner | i wasn't aware someone finished gentoo, tupone? |
| 18:43.14 | learner | Patlabor221: indeed, it's a cool system |
| 18:43.25 | learner | builds everything on the fly with all optimizations maxed |
| 18:43.46 | learner | just annoying when there are updates to X and you have to wait hours for a recompile |
| 18:43.48 | Patlabor221 | nifgraup: check the configure output and see if it says it can't find gl and is skiping the client |
| 18:44.07 | nifgraup | ok |
| 18:45.59 | nifgraup | configure: warning: Client build has been requested, but GL is not fully available |
| 18:45.59 | nifgraup | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:46.07 | nifgraup | that's it |
| 18:46.10 | learner | yep |
| 18:46.27 | learner | looks like the gentoo project isn't specifying a dependancy |
| 18:47.19 | nifgraup | no, it has opengl depenancies but i'm using the nvidia libGL.so, I think that's the problem |
| 18:48.01 | learner | still a problem in our project, though |
| 18:48.28 | learner | since we should either be checking for that, or trying a little harder when we test for opengl |
| 18:49.03 | Chestal | nifgraup: can you extract more detailed information from config.log? |
| 18:49.25 | Patlabor221 | is CIA not reporting? |
| 18:49.38 | nifgraup | but gentoo has a neat tool: "opengl-update", so I can switch betwean the xfree and nvidia libGL.so |
| 18:49.52 | Chestal | Patlabor221: I think there is also one of my commits missing on the mailing list |
| 18:50.00 | nifgraup | I just did that and now It compiles with the client |
| 18:50.13 | Patlabor221 | why would it not link with the nvidia one? |
| 18:50.30 | Patlabor221 | on windows we use an export lib, it dosn't care what runtime it links with when the app runs? |
| 18:50.42 | nifgraup | well, I think it is supposed to be compatable... |
| 18:52.05 | learner | Patlabor221: windows builds dlls for bz? |
| 18:53.16 | Patlabor221 | no we link to a GL export lib, then BZ links in the opengl32.dll at run time |
| 18:53.39 | Patlabor221 | at build time we don't link to an implemenation specific module |
| 18:54.08 | learner | k, then it's about the same it sounds |
| 18:54.08 | Patlabor221 | ohh learner I have some questions on CVS for you |
| 18:54.22 | learner | which reminds me too.. I'm not receving messages |
| 18:54.38 | Patlabor221 | I want to exclue a dir from CVS notification |
| 18:54.50 | learner | eep |
| 18:54.51 | Patlabor221 | and make it so only certan people can get it |
| 18:54.52 | learner | ok |
| 18:55.27 | Patlabor221 | learner at brlcad dot org right? |
| 18:55.36 | learner | right |
| 18:56.09 | Patlabor221 | just sent a test to the list |
| 18:57.43 | learner | i tried a commit earlier, and received nothing |
| 18:57.52 | Patlabor221 | send a mail to p24commits-request@bakadigital.com with HELP in the body |
| 18:58.18 | Patlabor221 | I just got my test message |
| 18:58.20 | learner | majordomo? |
| 18:59.01 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 18:59.07 | Patlabor221 | a think called "mailsite" |
| 18:59.15 | Patlabor221 | I added you manualy |
| 18:59.18 | learner | hrm.. okay |
| 18:59.22 | Patlabor221 | maybe it dosn't think your active |
| 18:59.36 | learner | I'm still betting I'm lean |
| 18:59.51 | Patlabor221 | I removed you |
| 18:59.59 | learner | :) |
| 19:00.00 | Patlabor221 | send mail to that addy with JOIN the subject |
| 19:00.40 | Patlabor221 | or p24commits-digest-request if you want the digest |
| 19:01.37 | Patlabor221 | thankfully you never really miss anything |
| 19:01.44 | Patlabor221 | cus of this |
| 19:01.45 | Patlabor221 | http://ryoko.bakadigital.com/lists/~p24commits/ |
| 19:04.31 | AAA | have you noticed stats.bzflag.org is not updated to the new bzflag verson |
| 19:04.57 | learner | yes.. noodle will update it later |
| 19:05.47 | AAA | good |
| 19:06.16 | AAA | how often does everyone play |
| 19:06.36 | learner | varies massively |
| 19:06.44 | AAA | avg? |
| 19:06.48 | learner | some never/rarely play, others play way too much |
| 19:07.04 | learner | i play once every few days for an hour or so |
| 19:07.07 | learner | used to play more |
| 19:07.11 | learner | much more |
| 19:07.16 | AAA | me, 5 hours weekends, 2 hours weekdays |
| 19:07.20 | learner | then I started developing, though |
| 19:07.45 | AAA | i was developing than i gotbzflag :) |
| 19:08.01 | learner | so now I spend upwards of 40 hours a week developing |
| 19:08.14 | AAA | same |
| 19:08.25 | learner | developing for bzflag, that is |
| 19:08.26 | AAA | mabye slightly less |
| 19:09.01 | learner | that thing that they call a job that gets me paid takes up all the rest of my weekly hours |
| 19:09.24 | AAA | what do you use for modeling and compiling bzflag? |
| 19:09.49 | learner | emacs and cc ? :) |
| 19:09.54 | Patlabor221 | modeling? |
| 19:10.08 | AAA | i mean editing |
| 19:10.12 | Patlabor221 | I use VC7.1 for working on it and P24 |
| 19:10.45 | learner | I'm almost exclusively in Emacs, though I'll use XCode/ProjectBuilder from time to time also |
| 19:10.59 | Chestal | tcsh+fte+gcc here |
| 19:11.40 | Patlabor221 | it is time for me to atempt yet another linux install at home, I am willing to take sugestions |
| 19:11.56 | AAA | uninstall it first? |
| 19:12.32 | AAA | fromat the harddrive :) |
| 19:12.59 | Patlabor221 | there is nothing on the machine in question now |
| 19:13.03 | KR | Pat - what do you want to do that for? Fun? |
| 19:13.06 | Patlabor221 | this is not for the primary |
| 19:13.29 | Patlabor221 | 1) to verify that I can build things I change on linux, and 2) to run the P24 list server on linux |
| 19:13.35 | KR | ie what is your objective |
| 19:13.38 | KR | oh ok |
| 19:14.00 | Patlabor221 | and when somone says "ohh this is cool" I have a platform to checkit out on. |
| 19:14.06 | AAA | why cant you install linux? any errors? |
| 19:14.12 | Patlabor221 | I don't want to be doing things on asgard |
| 19:14.22 | Patlabor221 | me and the various distros have a long history |
| 19:14.28 | KR | lol |
| 19:14.35 | Patlabor221 | RedHat and I have come to an understanding, and we can work together |
| 19:14.42 | Patlabor221 | but I would like to see others |
| 19:14.48 | KR | have you tried knoppix? |
| 19:14.49 | Patlabor221 | Debian is my arch nemisis |
| 19:15.03 | Patlabor221 | I tried gentoo but it made me type things I didn't know |
| 19:15.04 | KR | its a live cd, but you can also install the your hd |
| 19:15.17 | KR | s/the/to |
| 19:15.18 | Patlabor221 | this is for a completely new machine |
| 19:15.46 | Patlabor221 | probably be a P3 700 or a gig with a SBlive and a GF 2 GTS |
| 19:15.49 | Patlabor221 | or maybe a 3 |
| 19:16.14 | KR | http://www.knoppix.org/ |
| 19:16.33 | Patlabor221 | and it's advantages? |
| 19:17.09 | learner | meaty video card for a list server :) |
| 19:17.11 | Patlabor221 | is it slickerlichous? |
| 19:17.22 | Patlabor221 | well it has to build and run BZ and P24 too |
| 19:17.32 | Patlabor221 | and I couldn't find anything smaller :) |
| 19:18.07 | learner | see all the pretty shiny rooms and servers zip in and out |
| 19:18.26 | KR | one big advantage is that you can install from the CD onto a virtual machine on any box - lin, win, whatever - and it makes no disk changes |
| 19:18.28 | Patlabor221 | sure why not |
| 19:18.36 | KR | so you can take it with you wherever |
| 19:18.37 | Patlabor221 | hook it up as a loging plugin :) |
| 19:18.58 | Patlabor221 | I don't need to be a linux evangelist KR, I jus want one install that works :) |
| 19:19.08 | Patlabor221 | soethign like apt or RPM would be nice |
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| 19:19.16 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Chestal] by ChanServ |
| 19:19.19 | KR | someone is making a version of it that you can build in apps and such prior to burning the CD |
| 19:19.38 | Patlabor221 | I never go anywhere, I can see my office from my front porch :) |
| 19:19.43 | KR | lol |
| 19:20.06 | Patlabor221 | and if I do go somwhere |
| 19:20.07 | AAA | hey - what server for bzflag are you on the most? |
| 19:20.10 | KR | scroll down the page at that URL, it talks about it, what it can do |
| 19:20.15 | Patlabor221 | it would be for a lady of emense hotness |
| 19:20.29 | KR | ahhh - I did that once :-D |
| 19:20.36 | Patlabor221 | and I do not think I would say "hell lady of emense hotness, would yu like to see some linux?" |
| 19:20.45 | KR | wound up in Indianapolis for 2.5 years :) |
| 19:21.10 | Patlabor221 | and if she did want to see linux, I would hope she would have boradband |
| 19:21.20 | KR | can they cure that? |
| 19:21.23 | KR | :) |
| 19:21.39 | KR | "boradband" sounds pretty nasty :-D |
| 19:21.44 | *** part/#bzflag AAA (~cgiirc@66.62.140.111) |
| 19:23.43 | KR | http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixRemasteringHowto |
| 19:24.01 | Patlabor221 | can it be installed as a normal OS? |
| 19:24.03 | KR | there ya go - build a live distro, you can play bz from linux on any system :) |
| 19:24.07 | KR | yes it can |
| 19:24.21 | Patlabor221 | ohh man that is a lot of typing |
| 19:24.27 | Patlabor221 | isn't there one with a real installer? |
| 19:24.33 | Patlabor221 | don't you guys have real installers? |
| 19:24.37 | KR | it would be hilarious to be at Circuit City playing bz under Linux on one of their machines :) |
| 19:25.19 | KR | so much typing because you are building your own custom system, which will be hd installable as well as on a live cd |
| 19:25.57 | Patlabor221 | I don't want to do that tho |
| 19:26.11 | scanline | Patlabor221: Most people I know get really annoyed by 'installers' as the windows world has, but if you really want one that's what redhat, mandrake, fedora, and such are for |
| 19:26.16 | KR | there is also the new Debian out with a easy installer |
| 19:26.24 | KR | Anaconda, IIRC |
| 19:26.35 | scanline | KR: anaconda is the one redhat uses |
| 19:26.45 | scanline | IIRC |
| 19:27.04 | KR | yeah - but I think thats what Debian adopted/modified to make install easier |
| 19:27.17 | KR | I could be wrong, I can Google for it... |
| 19:27.44 | scanline | well, it would make sense |
| 19:27.54 | Patlabor221 | I mostly want an installer cus I don't know all the little things I need |
| 19:28.02 | scanline | Patlabor221: that's why gentoo walks you through it |
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| 19:28.07 | KR | Pat - http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2003/2 |
| 19:28.10 | Zoyo | hi |
| 19:28.15 | Patlabor221 | I tried the gentoo one, I got lost |
| 19:28.17 | KR | hi Z |
| 19:28.32 | Patlabor221 | I didn't know how big of a root partion, or a boot, or a swap and stuff I needed |
| 19:28.39 | scanline | Patlabor221: even though gentoo's installation seems complex, it's nice because it shows you how it all works so you know when you need to modify it later- with a redhat-like installer it does everything for you but then you have no good way to modify the results |
| 19:28.42 | Patlabor221 | or what "modules" i needed |
| 19:28.49 | scanline | Patlabor221: the installation instructions tell you |
| 19:29.17 | Patlabor221 | I would eventualy like to triumph over debian |
| 19:29.21 | Patlabor221 | I got it installed ok |
| 19:29.26 | scanline | Patlabor221: if you actually learn that sort of thing, then you will know it and you won't have to keep looking for ways to avoid learning |
| 19:29.29 | Patlabor221 | just that update to woody got me |
| 19:29.48 | Patlabor221 | but I know what you mean |
| 19:29.52 | scanline | pff |
| 19:29.53 | Patlabor221 | I just don't have time for it now |
| 19:30.00 | scanline | you couldn't possibly be as stubborn as MAC :) |
| 19:30.02 | Patlabor221 | I may try debian again |
| 19:30.06 | Patlabor221 | then move up to gentoo |
| 19:30.11 | Patlabor221 | I need little steps |
| 19:30.19 | Patlabor221 | I liked fluxbox |
| 19:31.26 | KR | scanline - it is Progeny's new installer for Debian that is Anaconda based - I was 1/2 right - http://tinyurl.com/v3sp |
| 19:31.32 | Patlabor221 | it's just gentoo.org? |
| 19:32.22 | Patlabor221 | I will have time in a bit while I install the 2 new DNS and DHCP servers at work, so I will read up on it |
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| 19:32.56 | Patlabor221 | I got confused on what "stage" I wanted |
| 19:33.14 | Patlabor221 | it seemed to involve a truth table |
| 19:33.37 | scanline | Patlabor221: each stage just includes different amounts of the system already compiled |
| 19:33.47 | Patlabor221 | I gethered that |
| 19:33.50 | scanline | stage 1 means you compile absoultely everything yourself, stage 3 already includes most of it |
| 19:34.02 | Patlabor221 | dosn't state 1 take a long time? |
| 19:34.25 | scanline | depending on your system, a few hours longer than stage3 |
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| 19:34.42 | KR | hi bzg |
| 19:34.50 | orchid | hello |
| 19:34.54 | Patlabor221 | she knows how much debian hates me :) |
| 19:35.12 | orchid | debian dosent hate you |
| 19:35.21 | learner | yes it does |
| 19:35.28 | Patlabor221 | I am the anti-linux |
| 19:35.31 | learner | :) |
| 19:35.51 | Pimpinella | KR: The new install-thing for debian is the "Debian-installer" :) |
| 19:36.14 | *** join/#bzflag Chikorita (Chikorita@ACA85046.ipt.aol.com) |
| 19:36.24 | Pimpinella | it replaces boot-floppies |
| 19:36.26 | orchid | Patlabor221 did manage to install it i recall |
| 19:36.34 | orchid | hey Chiko |
| 19:36.53 | Chikorita | hi rorchid |
| 19:36.56 | Chikorita | -r |
| 19:36.56 | Patlabor221 | yes I did, 15 times |
| 19:36.57 | learner | hiya chikorita |
| 19:37.02 | Chikorita | hi learna |
| 19:37.04 | Patlabor221 | the install was not the issue :) |
| 19:37.12 | |tim| | hiya Chikorita |
| 19:37.22 | KR | Pimpi - what an odd name that is... |
| 19:37.22 | Chikorita | hi tim tim |
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| 19:38.01 | orchid | Patlabor221, are you trying linux again? |
| 19:38.06 | orchid | hi Quol |
| 19:38.14 | KR | they should call it the "Debian starter upper" or something |
| 19:38.16 | Patlabor221 | I think it's about time I did |
| 19:38.30 | orchid | great |
| 19:38.30 | KR | hi Q |
| 19:38.35 | Quol | hello orchid, is it as cold in TO as it is over here? it -21 ish with the wind :( |
| 19:38.46 | Quol | hey KR and Chiko and all :) |
| 19:38.52 | orchid | Quol, yeah, its not nice out |
| 19:39.13 | Quol | got my hairs cut...and now my head is freezing |
| 19:39.19 | orchid | heh |
| 19:39.23 | KR | we have some Canada here today - under 55 and grey |
| 19:39.33 | KR | brr |
| 19:39.34 | Chikorita | learner: itz gonna snow here again tonite , yay ;) |
| 19:39.38 | Chikorita | brr |
| 19:39.42 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 19:40.10 | Gorilla_ | Chikorita, so you'll be having a white chirstmas then??? lucky you.. |
| 19:40.32 | Quol | KR - just be glad that it isn't -21 over there, that's somewhere around 15 or so I think |
| 19:41.04 | Chikorita | Gorilla_: yup white xmas ..i hope da snow stays like snow til then :P |
| 19:41.29 | Quol | funny enough - no snow yet over here...at least none that has stayed |
| 19:41.38 | Chikorita | "let it snowww , let it snowwww , let it snowwwwww.." |
| 19:41.40 | Quol | if this keeps up it will be a brown christmas :( |
| 19:41.40 | Chikorita | :) |
| 19:41.46 | Chikorita | lol Q |
| 19:41.51 | Chikorita | bleh :P |
| 19:42.00 | nifgraup | is there no proxy support for getting the server list? |
| 19:42.22 | KR | 12c now, according to kweather |
| 19:42.37 | Quol | KR - that should be -12 |
| 19:42.40 | Quol | negative 12 |
| 19:43.00 | learner | oh really? cool. |
| 19:43.01 | KR | nope - we are optimists, no - :) |
| 19:43.03 | Quol | with wind chill it's around -21c....BRRRRR |
| 19:43.09 | KR | +12 |
| 19:43.42 | Chikorita | my friends r buyin booze 2 celebrate da snow 2nite :P ...my lushy friendz :P dey get so wacky LoL |
| 19:43.47 | KR | 53f |
| 19:43.49 | Quol | well, I just came from outside, and all the water is frozen (pudles on the street etc..) and my car said -15... :) |
| 19:44.03 | KR | booze and pesi |
| 19:44.08 | KR | pepsi |
| 19:44.10 | Chikorita | gtg dey r draggibn mee otr da doorr ahh |
| 19:44.14 | KR | for chiko |
| 19:44.14 | Chikorita | pepsi! |
| 19:44.21 | Chikorita | yupp |
| 19:44.22 | Chikorita | :) |
| 19:44.24 | Chikorita | byez |
| 19:44.28 | KR | nc u |
| 19:44.50 | Quol | -seen JBDigriz |
| 19:44.51 | learner | Mmm.. booze |
| 19:44.53 | Quol | oops |
| 19:44.57 | Quol | ~seen JBDigriz |
| 19:45.07 | | jbdigriz <~JBDiGriz@adsl-63-204-107-94.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 19h 29m 38s ago, saying: 'maybe'. |
| 19:45.23 | orchid | nifgraup, you want to play through a proxy? |
| 19:45.23 | nifgraup | ae there any public 1.10 server up yet? |
| 19:45.34 | Patlabor221 | there are a number |
| 19:45.37 | Quol | there is 1 - learner's |
| 19:45.54 | Patlabor221 | didn't he have like 8 servers? |
| 19:45.58 | Quol | I couldn't get to the list server though - so I only know learners... |
| 19:46.20 | Quol | is it just my client, or is the map HUGE now - is the map size configurable in 1.10? |
| 19:46.22 | Patlabor221 | http://list.bzflag.org/bzflag.html |
| 19:46.32 | |tim| | Quol, death trailer wants a match wanna come? |
| 19:46.33 | Patlabor221 | it shows 18 servers up now |
| 19:46.41 | KR | Quol - its configurable |
| 19:46.54 | Patlabor221 | on a per server basis |
| 19:46.54 | Quol | tim - I haven't played in weeks - I suck...but sure :) |
| 19:47.08 | |tim| | we'll have time to warm |
| 19:47.21 | Quol | where? |
| 19:47.21 | KR | because tanks on my server go fast, I increased map size to 1000 |
| 19:47.28 | KR | from 800 |
| 19:47.52 | Quol | on brlcads, it takes an hour to drive from one side to the other |
| 19:48.07 | |tim| | quol.bzflag.org port: 59999 |
| 19:48.16 | Quol | OK |tim| see ya there |
| 19:48.20 | Quol | bbl... |
| 19:51.10 | Pimpinella | Patlabor221: maybe Suse is your distri. it hides much of linux, but if u want it for develop-stuff there is nothing better than debian |
| 19:51.42 | nifgraup | I can't see any 1.10 server on the serverlist: http://list.bzflag.org:5156/, is there some other list or is everyone still using 1.07? |
| 19:51.45 | Patlabor221 | I will not be using it for primary dev, just a list server, a CVS server and to build on, not code on |
| 19:52.13 | nifgraup | orchid: yes, my ISP makes me use http proxy |
| 19:52.48 | Patlabor221 | that is gonna make BZ very slow |
| 19:53.05 | orchid | dosent BB do that also? he has to use a proxy? |
| 19:53.06 | nifgraup | or.. no, i don't have to play through proxy... just for http for the server list |
| 19:53.11 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 19:53.14 | Patlabor221 | that is the old list server |
| 19:53.18 | Patlabor221 | 1.10 uses a new one |
| 19:54.10 | Patlabor221 | it's all HTTP based now |
| 19:54.24 | Patlabor221 | so the game will HTTP to db.bzflag.org |
| 19:55.16 | nifgraup | ok |
| 19:56.35 | learner | yea, pat.. all of the different modules are specified individually right now |
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| 20:02.12 | Pimpinella | 1.10 is kinda jumpy for me even with good fps. anyone else encountered this? |
| 20:03.40 | KR | good learner - seems to be a tad strict |
| 20:04.41 | Gorilla_ | learner, I have the bzflag 1.10 rpm and the server kicks the client occasiuonally for being to fast.. This is locally with the server and client on the same machine. |
| 20:04.54 | *** part/#bzflag orchid (~bzgirl@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 20:05.02 | Chestal | hmm, -speedtol does not seem to work? |
| 20:07.50 | Chestal | ah, hmm, I might be mistaken |
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| 20:16.23 | learner | eep.. who changed the default speed lag check to 1.0?? |
| 20:16.38 | learner | I'm surprised more aren't kicked.. |
| 20:20.55 | learner | ~ispell presumptuous |
| 20:20.57 | | 'presumptuous' may be spelled correctly |
| 20:21.05 | Chestal | wasn't it set to 1.02^2 or 1.05^2? |
| 20:21.26 | learner | 1.05 is what the comment implies it was supposed to be set to |
| 20:21.55 | *** part/#bzflag ClonedMule (~Miranda@0-3pool249-198.nas80.oakland1.ca.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 20:22.09 | Chestal | 1.125f in my source? |
| 20:22.14 | Chestal | or is it reset elsewhere? |
| 20:22.19 | Chestal | bzfs.cxx:30 |
| 20:23.07 | Chestal | I don't understand what that realtol should be good for, though |
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| 20:23.25 | Chestal | if some insane admin uses -speedtol 0.5 or so it's his fault |
| 20:23.56 | learner | I'm looking on or about line 4136.. I've modified/removed lines so it's close |
| 20:24.22 | Chestal | that's the realtol thing which seems useless for me |
| 20:24.30 | Chestal | obviously a safeguard for silly -speedtol values |
| 20:25.08 | learner | ah, i see that now |
| 20:32.30 | learner | it is silly, but until it's validated upon input, it's better than nothing.. |
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| 20:32.52 | learner | hrm.. no cia message |
| 20:33.10 | scanline | I think there might be something up with sourceforge's mail server |
| 20:35.33 | Quol | my 1.10 can't find any servers at all - that normal? |
| 20:36.32 | Chestal | Quol: no. Two possible reasons: you are behind transparent proxy and arenot using the very latest code - or - port 80 is blocked and you have to use a proxy manually |
| 20:36.33 | learner | can take upwards of 10 seconds |
| 20:36.55 | *** part/#bzflag Zoyo (cs@p5086E7EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:37.03 | Quol | nope - port 80 us A OK, so must be the second... |
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| 20:37.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 20:38.42 | Quol | hmmm - this is the sourcforge windows version....it just uses HTTP? |
| 20:39.29 | Patlabor221 | the list server is now http |
| 20:39.34 | Patlabor221 | that's the big change |
| 20:39.53 | Patlabor221 | it's now a php page IIRC |
| 20:39.58 | Quol | is it real HTTP, not some other protocol using port 80? |
| 20:40.14 | Patlabor221 | it should be real http |
| 20:40.18 | Chestal | Quol: it's semi-http in your version, real http in CVS |
| 20:40.31 | Quol | maybe that's the issue then... |
| 20:40.34 | Chestal | Quol: so, transparent proxies are a problem with 1.10.0 |
| 20:40.35 | Patlabor221 | there is "semi" http? |
| 20:40.39 | Quol | I will compile frmo latest source.. |
| 20:41.01 | Chestal | Patlabor2: it uses the proxy syntax GET http://<host>/<path> |
| 20:41.21 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 20:41.40 | Chestal | seems to work with your usual http server |
| 20:41.43 | Patlabor221 | how does that work with people who have to speficy a HTTP proxy? |
| 20:41.54 | Patlabor221 | like in there browser? |
| 20:41.56 | Chestal | it won't work for those |
| 20:41.58 | Chestal | neither version will |
| 20:42.06 | Chestal | no proxy suppor tyet |
| 20:42.06 | Patlabor221 | ah |
| 20:42.17 | learner | Chestal: interestingly enough.. I was working with Manu yesterday and apparently it works as GET /db/action?... but not with GET http://.../db/action?... |
| 20:42.27 | Chestal | but the CVS version using HTTP/1.1 should go through transparent proxies |
| 20:42.29 | learner | when he manually connected via telnet |
| 20:42.30 | Patlabor221 | damn, can't get the debian installers |
| 20:42.41 | Chestal | learner: yes, that's expected |
| 20:43.10 | learner | yet it tries the latter.. |
| 20:44.10 | Chestal | learner: it? |
| 20:44.26 | learner | client |
| 20:44.29 | Manu_1 | I'm here jet! my ISP have a transparent proxie and i have problems with listserver |
| 20:45.00 | Chestal | learner: it's a bug, it's fixed in CVS |
| 20:45.24 | learner | hrm.. this was using cvs, albeit anonymous |
| 20:45.24 | Chestal | Manu: you'd need to use the latest code |
| 20:45.35 | Chestal | maybe anon CVS will have the change |
| 20:45.42 | Chestal | the cde is in src/bzflag/menus.cxx |
| 20:45.46 | Manu_1 | i have the latest code... 1 hour ago... |
| 20:46.02 | Chestal | search for 'http' in that file |
| 20:46.31 | Chestal | better yet, search for GET |
| 20:46.46 | Chestal | should only get one match, paste the line |
| 20:47.11 | Quol | can you compile the windows version using VS.NET yet? or should I stick with VS6? |
| 20:47.32 | Manu_1 | ok... is late for me now (tomorrow i'll try it) bye all! |
| 20:47.47 | Chestal | Quol: .NET should work AFAIK |
| 20:47.57 | *** part/#bzflag Manu_1 (~Manu_1@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:48.06 | Quol | OK - I will try it out now - let you know in a minute or 2 :) |
| 20:48.07 | learner | Any os x testers on hand? |
| 20:49.03 | learner | http://brlcad.org/tmp/BZFlag_1.10.0.dmg needs a second face to approve it |
| 21:00.51 | Quol | ugh - errors using VC 6.. |
| 21:04.41 | nifgraup | is current CVS compatable with the running servers? |
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| 21:07.40 | Patlabor221 | dependes on what servers |
| 21:07.48 | Patlabor221 | it is compatable with 1.10 servers |
| 21:07.54 | Patlabor221 | not 1.7x servers |
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| 21:08.05 | Ro-z | hi |
| 21:08.20 | Ro-z | I got a question |
| 21:08.46 | Ro-z | is anyone here to help? |
| 21:10.06 | Patlabor221 | probably |
| 21:10.54 | Ro-z | I was wondering how to make a help file |
| 21:11.04 | Patlabor221 | for what, in what OS? |
| 21:11.16 | Ro-z | for bzflag server in windows |
| 21:11.27 | Patlabor221 | ahh CHTM then? |
| 21:11.40 | Patlabor221 | there are editors and tools that do it |
| 21:11.46 | Patlabor221 | most come with visual studio |
| 21:12.06 | Ro-z | what are you talking about? I cant make something simple in notepad? |
| 21:12.37 | Ro-z | im talkin bout when u go on the bzflag client and type /help and a text menu shows up in the message window. |
| 21:13.36 | Patlabor221 | ohhhh |
| 21:13.39 | Patlabor221 | got it |
| 21:13.43 | Patlabor221 | a bz help file |
| 21:13.47 | Patlabor221 | not a windows help file |
| 21:13.51 | Patlabor221 | yeah just bust it out in text |
| 21:13.56 | Patlabor221 | and slap it on the server |
| 21:14.23 | Patlabor221 | there should be some samples in the misc dir on the source distro IIRC |
| 21:14.48 | Ro-z | whats iirc? |
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| 21:15.03 | Ro-z | I guess there is no simple answer here huh? |
| 21:15.03 | Ro-z | lol |
| 21:15.16 | learner | if i remember correctly is iirc |
| 21:15.42 | Ro-z | are we talking about irc clients now? |
| 21:15.43 | Ro-z | lol |
| 21:16.29 | drinian | Patlabor221: I'm getting a error on compiling 1.10 on win32: multicast.cxx(431) : error C2065: 'socklen_t' : undeclared identifier -- have you had this problem? |
| 21:16.51 | Ro-z | nope |
| 21:18.08 | Quol | drinian & Patlabor221: just got the same one myself... |
| 21:18.23 | drinian | Hmmm.... |
| 21:18.37 | drinian | Compiling ok in linux, though |
| 21:19.09 | drinian | I'm not too familiar with the network code... |
| 21:19.12 | Patlabor221 | drinian, your using VC6? |
| 21:19.16 | Patlabor221 | it's a simple thing |
| 21:19.17 | drinian | Yes. |
| 21:19.25 | Patlabor221 | go to win32/vc6/config.h |
| 21:19.31 | drinian | k |
| 21:19.43 | Patlabor221 | is the #def for socketlen_t commented or un commented? |
| 21:20.12 | Patlabor221 | should be right at the top |
| 21:20.29 | drinian | one sec |
| 21:21.06 | Patlabor221 | there are 2 difrent windows SDK headers for VC6 sadly, and this is the problem that it has. |
| 21:21.16 | drinian | hmm...don't even see it. |
| 21:21.28 | drinian | config.h in vc6? |
| 21:21.31 | Patlabor221 | is this CVS or the 1.10 source |
| 21:21.31 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:21.41 | drinian | cvs tag 1.10 |
| 21:21.45 | Patlabor221 | k |
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| 21:22.36 | Patlabor221 | should be right after the line |
| 21:22.41 | Patlabor221 | #ifndef IPV6_HDRINCL |
| 21:22.53 | drinian | I found this, though: // #define socklen_t int //upgrade to the latest SDK |
| 21:22.58 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:23.00 | Patlabor221 | that is it |
| 21:23.03 | Patlabor221 | un comment that out |
| 21:23.06 | drinian | k |
| 21:23.12 | Patlabor221 | you are using the origonal platform SDK |
| 21:23.17 | Patlabor221 | mac changed it to work for him |
| 21:23.22 | Patlabor221 | in CVS i put it back |
| 21:23.32 | Patlabor221 | cus it seems most people have the older VC sdk |
| 21:23.33 | drinian | compiling |
| 21:23.38 | Patlabor221 | so I'll just make him comment it out. |
| 21:24.03 | Patlabor221 | it sucks they changed the header, but didn't bump any versions or anything |
| 21:24.33 | drinian | true |
| 21:24.36 | Patlabor221 | and in BZ we moved config,h to before the place that defines the the item in windows so we can't check to see if it exists. |
| 21:25.01 | Patlabor221 | VC7.1 has the item defined, so in the VC7.1 config.h we don't need it. |
| 21:26.06 | drinian | Have you noticed the server not being compatable version on win32 1.10? |
| 21:26.28 | Patlabor221 | the fist binary installer had a build burp and it wasn't |
| 21:26.34 | drinian | I saw someon on irc say this the other day and I experienced it last night. |
| 21:26.40 | Patlabor221 | the 1.10.0-1 installer has it fixed |
| 21:26.48 | drinian | Is that on sf? |
| 21:26.50 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:26.57 | Patlabor221 | I replaced the installer exe |
| 21:27.05 | drinian | cool |
| 21:27.23 | drinian | complied fine. |
| 21:27.43 | Patlabor221 | http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/bzflag/bzflag-1.10.0-1.W32.exe?download |
| 21:28.11 | drinian | Got a warning with bzfs though: LINK : warning LNK4089: all references to "USER32.dll" discarded by /OPT:REF |
| 21:28.18 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 21:28.23 | Patlabor221 | it's ok |
| 21:28.26 | Patlabor221 | it's just a warning |
| 21:28.36 | Patlabor221 | it has to do with how some stuff moved around |
| 21:28.41 | drinian | ah... |
| 21:28.46 | Patlabor221 | and mac dicking with the libs |
| 21:28.57 | Patlabor221 | this is why I like DLLs :) |
| 21:29.07 | drinian | dll hell |
| 21:29.16 | Patlabor221 | not if you build it right |
| 21:29.26 | Patlabor221 | and use proper APIs |
| 21:29.29 | Patlabor221 | then it's slick |
| 21:29.32 | Patlabor221 | just more files |
| 21:29.33 | drinian | It's much better now a days |
| 21:29.44 | Patlabor221 | and the libs only export the funcs you need |
| 21:29.50 | Patlabor221 | makes linking a peice of cake |
| 21:29.58 | drinian | It used to be quite a nightmare. |
| 21:30.01 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:30.13 | Patlabor221 | the new compilers take care of the ugly for you |
| 21:30.22 | Patlabor221 | just a simple declspec and your good |
| 21:30.27 | drinian | you have vc7? |
| 21:30.30 | Patlabor221 | 7.1 |
| 21:30.39 | Patlabor221 | 7.0 sucked monkey butt |
| 21:30.43 | drinian | I have to breakdown and get it someday. |
| 21:30.56 | Patlabor221 | 7.1 is nice |
| 21:31.02 | drinian | Have you messed with the .net stuff yet? |
| 21:31.10 | Patlabor221 | the managed C++? |
| 21:31.11 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 21:31.22 | Patlabor221 | have no need to |
| 21:31.29 | drinian | Think it's worth looking into for solutions? |
| 21:31.49 | Patlabor221 | for web integrated apps that run only on windows, posibly |
| 21:31.56 | Patlabor221 | for games, god no |
| 21:32.02 | drinian | lol |
| 21:32.21 | Patlabor221 | it's a lot like MFC |
| 21:32.30 | drinian | being locked in... |
| 21:32.50 | Patlabor221 | that and it's a high level framework for certan types of apps |
| 21:32.56 | Patlabor221 | it's not suited for every app |
| 21:33.06 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure it makes some stuff easyer for some people |
| 21:33.18 | Patlabor221 | probably enought to make it a worthwile product |
| 21:33.24 | drinian | have you played with c# then? |
| 21:33.42 | Patlabor221 | no, I don't like java |
| 21:34.08 | Patlabor221 | give me pointers or give me death |
| 21:34.19 | drinian | amen! |
| 21:34.34 | Patlabor221 | tho I hear it's prety slick for asp.net pages |
| 21:34.51 | Patlabor221 | makes asp a lot more like php in functionality they tell me |
| 21:34.58 | drinian | So you don't need vbscript |
| 21:35.10 | Patlabor221 | you can still use vb, but you can also use c# |
| 21:35.26 | Patlabor221 | asp.net will work with a bunch of langs |
| 21:35.40 | drinian | Have then integrated the .net stuff with ms Access do you know? |
| 21:35.41 | Patlabor221 | C++, C#, j++, VB, etc... |
| 21:35.57 | drinian | s/then/they |
| 21:36.03 | Patlabor221 | I think that's part of it's deal, it's all jet connected and stuff |
| 21:36.14 | Patlabor221 | it should be conencted to all the APIs |
| 21:36.32 | Patlabor221 | but I don't really build webapps |
| 21:36.47 | drinian | I do a bit of access development and i need to turn it into web based now and i'm trying to figure out which way to go. |
| 21:37.07 | Patlabor221 | I know people use asp and access all the time |
| 21:37.22 | Patlabor221 | just like people use php and mysql together |
| 21:37.25 | drinian | id like to port to mysql and php but I'm not sure it's worth the effort |
| 21:37.36 | Patlabor221 | it runs on more platforms |
| 21:37.44 | drinian | very true. |
| 21:38.02 | Patlabor221 | if your asp and you go to a *nix, then your stuck with that chillisoft asp implemenation |
| 21:38.07 | Patlabor221 | and it's not entirely the same |
| 21:38.11 | drinian | but web page widgets aren't as tactile in my opinion |
| 21:38.15 | Patlabor221 | php has been very good to me |
| 21:38.23 | Patlabor221 | that soulds just like coding |
| 21:38.30 | Patlabor221 | not a problem with the language |
| 21:38.44 | drinian | yea, i've looked into chillisoft but I'm too cheap. |
| 21:39.08 | Patlabor221 | it may not have all the slick templates, as asp, but you should be able to write your own, even in java on the client side if you want |
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| 21:39.39 | Patlabor221 | or flash :) |
| 21:40.11 | drinian | I know a lot of people don't like flash because it's propriatary but it is very cool. |
| 21:40.40 | drinian | have you seen it used in database apps? |
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| 21:48.29 | Patlabor221 | there are flash players for a lot of platforms |
| 21:48.38 | Patlabor221 | I have seen it used for all kinds of stuff |
| 21:48.45 | Patlabor221 | you can make it do tons of stuff |
| 21:50.01 | drinian | yea, I'll have to look at that as an option. |
| 21:50.23 | Patlabor221 | I allways jsut ask other people to do database stuff :) |
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| 21:50.40 | Patlabor221 | I have no need to be an expert in everything |
| 21:51.28 | drinian | There are other things to do in life after all. |
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| 21:51.35 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 21:53.20 | JBdiGriz | there you are, small problems with the build |
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| 21:53.33 | learner | jb: the key thing is a known bug |
| 21:53.35 | Patlabor222 | wtf |
| 21:53.59 | JBdiGriz | ok, other than that it looks fine, so I can upload it. I'm surprised you don't have perm. |
| 21:54.01 | learner | it didn't work before either -- only if you manually edit the config file |
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| 21:54.20 | JBdiGriz | It seems to save them, just display improperly |
| 21:54.34 | learner | hrm.. some it actually flat out doesn't safe |
| 21:54.39 | learner | like identify, iirc |
| 21:54.54 | JBdiGriz | i don't change that one, i change fire. |
| 21:54.59 | learner | was there a background in the dmg? |
| 21:55.10 | JBdiGriz | no background |
| 21:55.15 | learner | drat |
| 21:55.22 | JBdiGriz | it also saved and displayed binoculars correctly |
| 21:55.43 | learner | then I'll need to make another dmg later, but that would should be good for those waiting |
| 21:55.49 | JBdiGriz | is there a background somewhere that you would like to have? |
| 21:55.57 | learner | yea, I set a background |
| 21:56.06 | learner | but not "correctly" obviously |
| 21:56.22 | JBdiGriz | i can rebuild the dmg, or just upload it straight |
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| 21:57.15 | tapo | hi. just played hunt the rabbit on ducati... why are the hunters rogue -- rogues tend to shoot at rogues... green / red tanks could be better. |
| 21:58.02 | tapo | I mean, only red or only green. |
| 21:58.09 | learner | JBdiGriz: The background I used is here: http://brlcad.org/tmp/background.png |
| 21:58.25 | learner | if you are willing to rebuild it, great, if not I can |
| 21:59.16 | learner | disk utility doesn't make compressed writeables any more, so compressed is the way to go :) |
| 21:59.34 | learner | i'll be back much later tonight if needed |
| 22:01.05 | tapo | l8r |
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| 22:47.51 | b1nhb00ng | hello, does anyone know why my bzflag locks up once in a while? (im running mandrake) |
| 22:51.36 | kroboto | what client version? |
| 22:57.13 | b1nhb00ng | 1.10 :) |
| 22:58.25 | kroboto | which mdk version. i run 9.1 and other than one map it hasn't given me any trouble |
| 22:58.56 | kroboto | 1.7g0 was a pita on mdk tho. |
| 23:01.40 | b1nhb00ng | kroboto: mdk 9.2 |
| 23:02.21 | doughecka | where is the documentation held for 1.10? |
| 23:02.34 | Patlabor221 | man and html like allways |
| 23:02.44 | doughecka | for things like world weps |
| 23:03.00 | Patlabor221 | probably wiki |
| 23:03.09 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:03.44 | kroboto | unfortunatly, i don't run it yet. and the prebuilt rpms are stripped of debug stuff. at least they dont give gdb anything. |
| 23:03.51 | doughecka | btw, are all the weps supported for world weapons, or only SW and plain shot |
| 23:04.01 | kroboto | you run kde or gnome or other? |
| 23:11.20 | b1nhb00ng | ah |
| 23:11.27 | b1nhb00ng | kroboto: gnome ;) |
| 23:13.52 | kroboto | me too. does it usually happen during or shortly after running a kde app? if so thats prolly the culprit. Under kde it seems ok and gnome only ok, both not so good. |
| 23:14.51 | b1nhb00ng | i dunno if it's the de problem |
| 23:15.03 | b1nhb00ng | i dont have kde to test on so i can't say |
| 23:15.59 | kroboto | then it's not the problem. no kde environment, no kdeinit. |
| 23:16.33 | kroboto | do you ever use any other window manager? ie. IceWM, WindowMaker? |
| 23:17.07 | b1nhb00ng | used to use enlightenment but never played bzflag on it :p |
| 23:18.53 | kroboto | Evolution? When I had stability problems I was always doing email then bzflag. |
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| 23:19.27 | b1nhb00ng | hmm |
| 23:19.31 | b1nhb00ng | i have evolution too |
| 23:19.35 | kroboto | I never had problems when I just did bzflag. always after doing some other stuff. |
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| 23:20.02 | b1nhb00ng | my box stay up 24/7 so I dunno if that's the "before" or "after" :p |
| 23:20.23 | b1nhb00ng | anyhow, will test some more, thx for the help |
| 23:20.31 | kroboto | Patlabor? do you know of any freeze up problems with bzflag under Linux? |
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| 23:26.04 | Ro-z | hey howcome -banfile stops the server from starting? |
| 23:26.04 | Zoyo | hi |
| 23:26.21 | Ro-z | this can be a text file right? |
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| 23:27.46 | Zoyo | i'm just trying to compile 1.10 but i get the following error at bzadmin: |
| 23:27.54 | Zoyo | CursesUI.cxx: In method `void CursesUI::handleResize(int, int)': |
| 23:27.54 | Zoyo | CursesUI.cxx:238: implicit declaration of function `int resize_term(...)' |
| 23:28.03 | Ro-z | hello? |
| 23:29.20 | Zoyo | I use libncurses 5.2 |
| 23:29.55 | Ro-z | can anyone tell me why -banfile is preventing my server from starting? |
| 23:30.03 | Ro-z | this can be a text file right? |
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| 23:30.56 | orchid | Ro-z, i belive its a text file yes |
| 23:31.06 | orchid | one ip per line? |
| 23:31.19 | Ro-z | am I adding -banfile on the wrong line maybe? |
| 23:31.23 | Ro-z | its just a blank file right now. |
| 23:31.31 | Ro-z | does it need ips in it for the serv to run? |
| 23:31.56 | orchid | well im not sure, if its empty then dont use the -banfile option |
| 23:32.34 | orchid | your saying "here's a list of people to ban" and handing it an empty list |
| 23:33.05 | Ro-z | but even when I add an ip it doesn't start. |
| 23:33.30 | orchid | does it start without that -banfile option? |
| 23:33.50 | Ro-z | yah. but I kinda wanted to use the banfile option. |
| 23:33.55 | Ro-z | heh |
| 23:34.15 | Ro-z | could I be adding the -banfile option in the wrong spot of the config? |
| 23:34.25 | orchid | what does the man page say about the format of that file? |
| 23:34.39 | Ro-z | where is the manpage? |
| 23:34.47 | orchid | are you on linux? |
| 23:34.51 | Ro-z | no |
| 23:34.52 | Ro-z | windows |
| 23:34.58 | orchid | oh ok, n/m |
| 23:35.19 | Patlabor221 | the HTML docs are made from the manpages |
| 23:35.20 | orchid | i belive theyre online also |
| 23:35.22 | Patlabor221 | they say the same thing |
| 23:35.27 | Zoyo | hmm, i changed resize_term() to resizeterm() and this compiles. is this a bug in the code or do i need another libncurses? |
| 23:35.50 | Patlabor221 | have to ask larls, he is the bzadmin master |
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| 23:41.16 | Ro-z | I think maybe its a bug or somethin |
| 23:41.19 | Ro-z | I dunno |
| 23:41.19 | Ro-z | lo |
| 23:41.23 | Ro-z | l |
| 23:41.43 | Ro-z | cuz I think the thing says im doin it right |
| 23:42.43 | Patlabor221 | try again |
| 23:44.04 | Ro-z | this is what im typing |
| 23:44.14 | Patlabor221 | whoops, wrong window :) |
| 23:44.22 | Ro-z | -banfile "ban.txt" |
| 23:44.27 | Ro-z | that has to be right... |
| 23:44.35 | Patlabor221 | what is the error that bzfs gives you? |
| 23:45.08 | o | ~bzfquery bzflag.sytes.net |
| 23:45.16 | Ro-z | it says Usage: then a list of all the commands apear and how to use them. |
| 23:45.21 | o | Co za pa³ka. |
| 23:45.31 | o | 걶¿¼æñ³ó |
| 23:45.44 | o | ~translation 궿³ |
| 23:46.02 | o | ~ibot ruchy g³±bie? |
| 23:46.29 | o | ibot: / |
| 23:46.31 | | o: are you using Windows? |
| 23:46.31 | Patlabor221 | ibot dosn't work like that, try it in a /msg to it |
| 23:46.34 | | i haven't a clue, Patlabor221 |
| 23:46.40 | o | Pff, Windows? :P |
| 23:46.50 | Death_Barrel | match anyone? |
| 23:46.52 | Patlabor221 | Ro-z, is -banfile one of those options? |
| 23:46.53 | Death_Barrel | HoW vs Anyone |
| 23:46.56 | Patlabor221 | and what installer did you get? |
| 23:47.00 | Ro-z | yes it is |
| 23:47.05 | Patlabor221 | 1.10.0-0 or 1.10.0-1 |
| 23:47.06 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 23:47.58 | Ro-z | 1.10.0-1 |
| 23:48.01 | Tupone | Ro-z: give all the command and options if they goes in few lines |
| 23:48.25 | Tupone | give us, I mean |
| 23:48.45 | Ro-z | nah its a big config. |
| 23:48.47 | Ro-z | lol |
| 23:48.59 | Ro-z | #Initial port clients connect on |
| 23:48.59 | Ro-z | -p 5155 |
| 23:49.00 | Ro-z | #Public description for the server |
| 23:49.00 | Ro-z | -public "Tank fun for everyone." |
| 23:49.01 | Ro-z | #Public network address for the server |
| 23:49.01 | Ro-z | -publicaddr bzflag-shiloh.uni.cc:5155 |
| 23:49.02 | Ro-z | #Server Message displayed when player joins |
| 23:49.04 | Ro-z | -srvmsg "Welcome to BZFlag-shiloh.uni.cc" |
| 23:49.06 | Ro-z | #Lag Warning threshold time [ms] |
| 23:49.08 | Ro-z | -lagwarn 300 |
| 23:49.10 | Ro-z | #Drop player after this many lag warnings |
| 23:49.10 | Patlabor221 | ohh god |
| 23:49.12 | Ro-z | -lagdrop 3 |
| 23:49.14 | Ro-z | #Message that is broadcast every 15 minutes |
| 23:49.16 | Ro-z | -admsg "bzflag-shiloh.uni.cc No cheating allowed. Bans are possible." |
| 23:49.18 | Ro-z | #Ban File |
| 23:49.19 | Patlabor221 | tupone don't have people do that here, use /msg |
| 23:49.20 | Ro-z | -banfile "ban.txt" |
| 23:49.22 | Ro-z | #File to which to write user reports |
| 23:49.24 | Ro-z | -reportfile "report.txt" |
| 23:49.26 | Ro-z | #Administrator's password |
| 23:49.28 | Ro-z | -password "bluefire" |
| 23:49.29 | Tupone | I ask if few lines |
| 23:49.30 | Ro-z | #Flags can exist on buildings |
| 23:49.32 | Ro-z | -fb |
| 23:49.34 | Ro-z | #Randomly orient buildings |
| 23:49.36 | Ro-z | -b |
| 23:49.38 | Ro-z | #Random height buildings |
| 23:49.40 | Ro-z | -h |
| 23:49.42 | Ro-z | #Maximum number of players n, or max players per team n,n,n,n,n,n |
| 23:49.44 | Ro-z | -mp 1,1,1,1,1,1 |
| 23:49.46 | Ro-z | #Number of superflags that may exist at any time |
| 23:49.47 | Patlabor221 | well at least we knowq his password now |
| 23:49.48 | Ro-z | -s 25 |
| 23:49.50 | Ro-z | #Allow random teleporters |
| 23:49.52 | Ro-z | -t |
| 23:49.54 | Ro-z | #Insert antidote superflags |
| 23:49.56 | Ro-z | -sa |
| 23:49.58 | Ro-z | #Auto Team assignments |
| 23:50.00 | Ro-z | -autoTeam |
| 23:50.02 | Ro-z | #Tanks can jump |
| 23:50.04 | Ro-z | -j |
| 23:50.06 | Ro-z | #Maximum concurrent shots |
| 23:50.08 | Ro-z | -ms 5 |
| 23:50.10 | Ro-z | #Bad Flag shake time [s] |
| 23:50.12 | Ro-z | -st 15 |
| 23:50.13 | Tupone | sry for that |
| 23:50.14 | Ro-z | #Mandatory flags |
| 23:50.16 | Ro-z | +f good{18} +f bad{7} |
| 23:50.18 | Ro-z | it will be changed |
| 23:50.20 | Ro-z | :) |
| 23:50.22 | Ro-z | lol |
| 23:50.36 | Ro-z | I just wanna know whats wrong |
| 23:50.37 | Ro-z | :( |
| 23:51.08 | Patlabor221 | do you see "could not load banfile" when it errors? |
| 23:51.13 | Patlabor221 | before the usage? |
| 23:51.45 | Ro-z | yes |
| 23:52.00 | Patlabor221 | is the banfile in the same dir as the bzfs.exe? |
| 23:52.07 | Ro-z | yes |
| 23:52.28 | Patlabor221 | do you run from the comand line from that dir? |
| 23:52.41 | Ro-z | yes |
| 23:52.44 | Patlabor221 | or do you put any dirs in front of the bzfs.exe? |
| 23:53.30 | Ro-z | well bzfs.exe is in programFiles/bzflag1.10.0or whatever folder |
| 23:53.44 | Ro-z | and when I open dos prompt |
| 23:53.46 | Patlabor221 | but you CD to that folder first right? |
| 23:53.50 | Ro-z | yes |
| 23:53.54 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 23:53.57 | Patlabor221 | I'm looking one se |
| 23:53.59 | Patlabor221 | sec |
| 23:54.01 | Ro-z | I made a batch file to do it :) |
| 23:54.02 | Ro-z | heh |
| 23:54.05 | Ro-z | makes it easier |
| 23:54.15 | Patlabor221 | does the bach file change do the dir? |
| 23:54.38 | Ro-z | yeah everythin was workin fine until I added the banfile command. |
| 23:54.52 | Ro-z | I was hopping to be able to use that feature. |
| 23:54.53 | *** part/#bzflag Zoyo (cs@p5086E7EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:55.14 | Patlabor221 | well is that the only command that looks for a file? |
| 23:55.47 | Ro-z | no I have a -reportfile "report.txt" |
| 23:55.51 | Ro-z | and that works perfictly |
| 23:56.18 | Patlabor221 | looks like it's looking for entrys in the ban list |
| 23:57.00 | Patlabor221 | if it dosn't fine them or the file it will fial |
| 23:57.03 | Patlabor221 | fail |
| 23:57.43 | Patlabor221 | and you are sure the file on your disk is named the same as what you are puting in the command line? |
| 23:58.05 | Patlabor221 | your not hiding exensions or anything and it's not named like "bans.txt.txt" or somethign? |
| 23:58.20 | Tupone | I wrote a random pattern in ban.txt and give the same error |
| 23:58.41 | Tupone | If file is empty or void it does not complain |
| 23:58.54 | Patlabor221 | yeah it looks for a specific format if it has data |
| 23:58.55 | Tupone | so could be a bad ban.txt |
| 23:58.59 | Patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 23:59.08 | Patlabor221 | Ro-z, what is in your ban.ext? |
| 23:59.11 | Patlabor221 | txt even |
| 23:59.23 | Tupone | conf file is ok |
| 23:59.40 | *** join/#bzflag tapo (~tapo@D4ac4.d.pppool.de) |
| 23:59.41 | Patlabor221 | it should probably make one the first time it needs to if the file is empty |
| 23:59.57 | Patlabor221 | or non existant |
