| 00:00.15 | fiberchunks | erps, all non-hidden directories too |
| 00:02.26 | TyroneFHornigh | I would have to try a couple of things, probably find -type f -name \.\* -print | xargs tar uzvf foo.tar.gz |
| 00:03.12 | TyroneFHornigh | It's a bit slow, but you could also cp the files you want to a separate directory and then create the tar from there. |
| 00:03.38 | fiberchunks | yeah, I'm trying to 'backup' my entire home dir on my laptop, for transferrance to my desktop |
| 00:03.54 | fiberchunks | it takes up 3 gig, so I'm trying to be efficient about it |
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| 00:04.39 | TyroneFHornigh | and you don't want the directories? I would just cd .. tar czvf foo.tar.gz ./fiber |
| 00:04.52 | fiberchunks | ah, duh -- |
| 00:04.54 | TyroneFHornigh | 2 separate commands should have been separated by a ; |
| 00:05.02 | fiberchunks | yeah |
| 00:05.33 | fiberchunks | jolt |
| 00:05.59 | TyroneFHornigh | I'll send you an invoice ;) |
| 00:07.04 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 00:11.05 | patlabor221 | well that's enough voxel fun dor the day |
| 00:24.20 | patlabor221 | and I think that will call it a day |
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| 00:32.21 | learner | It would be interesting to sneak in a cheat detector into the client that had a time-delayed response.. it'd silently report the cheat status back to a server (perhaps the list server) |
| 00:32.45 | learner | just to see just how many cheats there are |
| 00:40.15 | purple_cow | w000t |
| 00:40.26 | purple_cow | 81.5lbs of tastybite |
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| 00:48.41 | bryjen | ~weather kowb |
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| 00:49.26 | JBDiGriz | Great picture of the panda cub on the cam right now. |
| 00:50.29 | bryjen | ~panda |
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| 00:50.42 | SGI | hi |
| 00:50.57 | bryjen | hi SGI |
| 00:51.12 | JBDiGriz | ibot: pandacam is http://www.sandiegozoo.org/pandas/pandacam/index.html |
| 00:51.12 | | JBDiGriz: i already had it that way |
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| 01:01.11 | KR | hi all |
| 01:01.36 | SGI | `hi KR |
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| 01:13.30 | Patlabor221 | what is in the pot? volitiles? |
| 01:15.17 | bryjen | stupid s**t |
| 01:17.05 | bryjen | metaphorically stirring |
| 01:21.37 | bryjen | ~dict instegator |
| 01:21.47 | bryjen | ~spell instegator |
| 01:21.47 | | possible spellings for instegator: instigator instigate instigators integrator instigator's investigator |
| 01:21.57 | bryjen | ibot: thank you |
| 01:21.57 | | bryjen: no worries |
| 01:22.10 | bryjen | ~dict instigator |
| 01:22.53 | bryjen | hmm |
| 01:22.58 | bryjen | ~dict troll |
| 01:26.38 | SGI | have you change the server of BZBB |
| 01:26.42 | SGI | changed |
| 01:29.21 | triclops2 | http://bzbb.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?t=1055&sid=1bff926a44f667e2bdc4c5110bcaf3d0 |
| 01:30.30 | Patlabor221 | yes we did |
| 01:35.22 | Nidhoggr | :) |
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| 01:38.24 | bryjen | hmm. i start out going to bzbb.bzflag.org, but when i log in, the address bar changes to .bakadigital.com and the "Register" linky stay at the top of the page... |
| 01:38.38 | bryjen | am I getting logged in? |
| 01:39.10 | Nidhoggr | I'm just now trying to resolve that. |
| 01:40.19 | bryjen | cool |
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| 01:42.00 | Nidhoggr | SHOULD be resolved if you use bzbb.bzflag.org as default. |
| 01:42.33 | Nidhoggr | it shouldn't rewrite URL as bakadigital |
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| 01:43.19 | Nidhoggr | may have to resave the cookie. |
| 01:43.50 | bryjen | yup. search , profile , memberlist. and lit icons for new posts. |
| 01:43.55 | Patlabor221 | just close the browser and go in |
| 01:44.02 | Patlabor221 | it shoudl get you a new cookie |
| 01:44.08 | Patlabor221 | worked for me |
| 01:45.39 | Patlabor221 | you should not have to do that |
| 01:45.41 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 01:46.09 | bryjen | they just seemed to go together ;) |
| 01:46.15 | Nidhoggr | snort |
| 01:47.00 | bryjen | and it was working already anyway. i just could not resist. :) |
| 01:47.45 | Nidhoggr | went pretty darned smooth, considering we copied the raw database files instead of backup/restore. |
| 01:49.57 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:50.04 | Patlabor221 | there may have been an avatar or 2 lost |
| 01:50.34 | Spiff | :-) |
| 01:50.52 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 01:52.46 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 01:54.52 | bryjen | eh, mixing genders there? |
| 01:55.27 | NegraModelo | nope |
| 01:55.33 | NegraModelo | http://www.gmodelo.com/espanol/flash/Marcas/negra/negra.html |
| 01:56.30 | NegraModelo | Mmmmmmmm... http://www.gmodelo.com/espanol/flash/Galeria/Wallpapers/640x480_4.jpg |
| 02:00.49 | bryjen | i see |
| 02:02.21 | bryjen | ud. esta solo co su cerveza |
| 02:02.29 | bryjen | con |
| 02:03.05 | bryjen | blah. why do i bother. i barely get the english typed correctly. |
| 02:03.48 | NegraModelo | No'ombe .. tengo mis chicas por aca tambien por supuesto! :) |
| 02:04.18 | DTRemenak | claro que si |
| 02:04.22 | NegraModelo | dicen hola |
| 02:04.38 | DTRemenak | hola chicas |
| 02:05.41 | NegraModelo | Ellas no entienden nada de lo que estoy haciendo.. sheesh |
| 02:06.06 | SGI | hola chicas |
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| 02:11.13 | bryjen | ~bzflist |
| 02:22.44 | Quol | hello all |
| 02:23.08 | SGI | Hi Master Quol |
| 02:23.25 | Quol | lol - you get my mail SGI? |
| 02:23.59 | SGI | Q side???? |
| 02:24.05 | Quol | ya |
| 02:24.09 | SGI | thanks |
| 02:30.06 | SGI | Thanks Quol And DTRemenak |
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| 02:31.19 | Spiff | }{3||0 Quol. :-) |
| 02:31.37 | Quol | :) - hello Spiff |
| 02:31.53 | Quol | I had a little trouble there with my client :(.. |
| 02:33.21 | Quol | ugh - I have to go - see you guys around |
| 02:33.25 | Spiff | C-ya Quol. |
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| 02:34.37 | SpaceCowboy | some people call me "Maurice" |
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| 02:38.40 | SpaceCowboy | ahh the days of 8 track |
| 02:39.02 | MidnightToker | The days of vinyl. ;) |
| 02:39.06 | SpaceCowboy | mmmm the 'quil is kicking in, theis shoudl be fun |
| 02:39.09 | spanky1 | This is where I left off the other night!!! |
| 02:39.42 | SpaceCowboy | we didn't have many LPs, see it had that spinny thing, and I kept puting my toys on it to see how far they would go. |
| 02:40.02 | SpaceCowboy | and your point is? :) |
| 02:40.21 | MidnightToker | I still have several hundred LP's. They don't convert to digital quite as quickly as some media. |
| 02:40.44 | SpaceCowboy | yeah I have had to do that for some |
| 02:40.47 | SpaceCowboy | it's a pain |
| 02:41.23 | MidnightToker | It's nice when they decide to rerelease them as a CD. |
| 02:41.42 | MidnightToker | It sounds like you have that nasty head cold that's running around. |
| 02:41.49 | SpaceCowboy | sore throat |
| 02:42.17 | SpaceCowboy | mmmmm chicken good...................... |
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| 02:45.45 | SpaceCowboy | I think somone is going for the new "stay or go" record |
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| 02:50.25 | MidnightToker | I saw ibot took over my longest line record, and is going for the URL records as well. |
| 02:50.36 | SGI | ba |
| 02:50.56 | Spiff | ibot, eh? |
| 02:50.56 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Spiff |
| 02:51.04 | Spiff | LoL. Oops. |
| 02:51.07 | MidnightToker | That's ok ibot, we don't either. |
| 02:51.11 | MidnightToker | ;) |
| 02:51.28 | Spiff | ;-) |
| 02:54.13 | Spiff | ibot- how old are you? |
| 02:54.25 | Spiff | Hmm. |
| 02:55.49 | SGI | around 15 |
| 02:56.10 | MidnightToker | ~cpustats |
| 02:56.10 | | Total CPU usage: 4240.2 s ... Total used: 0.35 % (parent/child ratio: 77.1 %) |
| 02:57.36 | SGI | already |
| 02:58.56 | SGI | ~dict sorry |
| 03:04.09 | bryjen | ~dict goldbrick |
| 03:05.57 | Spiff | ~dict gypped |
| 03:06.19 | Spiff | Pfff. And yet it's used in a definition. How hypocritical. |
| 03:06.26 | Spiff | :-) |
| 03:06.27 | MidnightToker | ~dict gyp |
| 03:06.36 | SpaceCowboy | how rude to use a dergoitory remark like that |
| 03:06.46 | SpaceCowboy | what did the Gypsys ever do do you? |
| 03:06.57 | bryjen | gold _bars_ are $, but _bricks_ are worthless. |
| 03:07.04 | Spiff | LoL |
| 03:07.17 | bryjen | who knew? |
| 03:07.37 | MidnightToker | People with reasonable vocabularies? ;) |
| 03:07.53 | Noodleman | i guess i never knew how to spell gyp |
| 03:08.04 | Noodleman | i always spelled it 'gip' |
| 03:08.08 | Noodleman | or 'jip |
| 03:08.26 | bryjen | ~dict brickbat |
| 03:09.28 | MidnightToker | Remember to win one for the gipper ;) |
| 03:10.16 | SpaceCowboy | ronald reagan? |
| 03:10.27 | Spiff | I always figured "gyp" was just slang. Hmm. |
| 03:10.40 | SpaceCowboy | it is |
| 03:10.55 | SpaceCowboy | but it's enemology is from easter europe |
| 03:10.58 | SpaceCowboy | like "jewed out of " |
| 03:11.01 | MidnightToker | George Gip |
| 03:11.47 | MidnightToker | The eastern europeans were rather a xenophobic bunch. |
| 03:11.56 | bryjen | easter? jews? |
| 03:11.57 | SpaceCowboy | a goodly number yes |
| 03:12.10 | Spiff | What I meant to say was that I didn't think "gyp" would be in the dictionary. |
| 03:12.27 | triclops2 | qypsy? |
| 03:12.28 | SpaceCowboy | easter? bunnies? fertility? |
| 03:12.37 | Spiff | Sorta like "ain't" used to not be in there. |
| 03:13.24 | NegraModelo | slang does not make a word a non-dictionary word, homie |
| 03:13.36 | bryjen | we can only hope some bunnies do not multiply. |
| 03:13.40 | Spiff | Slang wasn't the word I was looking for. :-) |
| 03:13.53 | MidnightToker | You're no bunny til some bunny loves you. |
| 03:13.56 | SpaceCowboy | Main Entry: 1gyp |
| 03:13.56 | SpaceCowboy | Pronunciation: 'jip |
| 03:13.56 | SpaceCowboy | Function: noun |
| 03:13.56 | SpaceCowboy | Etymology: probably short for gypsy |
| 03:13.56 | SpaceCowboy | Date: 1750 |
| 03:13.57 | SpaceCowboy | 1 British : a college servant |
| 03:13.59 | SpaceCowboy | 2 a : CHEAT, SWINDLER b : FRAUD, SWINDLE |
| 03:17.10 | bryjen | ~spell morrese |
| 03:17.16 | | possible spellings for morrese: mores Morris moires morose morris Moree's Morrie's morrows More's meres mires Moore's Moree Morie's Morry's Morse marries moire's mares mortise Morrie Morrow's Torres mirrors morrow's |
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| 03:24.45 | bryjen | net hiccups? |
| 03:24.51 | SpaceCowboy | more of a fart |
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| 03:25.16 | Patlabor221 | on the router |
| 03:25.31 | bryjen | ehhew. that's that smell then... |
| 03:25.33 | Patlabor221 | or maybe the modem |
| 03:26.03 | bryjen | the lovely odor of smoking plastic in the evening |
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| 03:49.27 | SGI | still someone here |
| 03:49.54 | SGI | hello |
| 03:50.00 | SGI | sleeping time |
| 03:50.05 | Noodleman | m00f |
| 03:50.25 | SGI | I need help with wincvs |
| 03:50.39 | Noodleman | ask away, i might be able to help |
| 03:51.11 | SGI | im looking for the cvsroot for SF |
| 03:51.45 | SGI | I dont know the program and im looking to setup |
| 03:51.51 | Noodleman | cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/bzflag |
| 03:52.22 | SGI | bzfsgui for me |
| 03:53.32 | SGI | I need to setup authentication ...SSH |
| 03:53.56 | Noodleman | bzfsgui is a different project, as far as i know |
| 03:54.04 | SGI | yes |
| 03:59.54 | SGI | which port |
| 04:00.20 | Noodleman | just the default pserver port |
| 04:00.38 | Noodleman | 2401 |
| 04:01.22 | SGI | pserver??? |
| 04:02.13 | Noodleman | dunno what it stands for |
| 04:02.15 | NegraModelo | ssh is over port 22 |
| 04:02.41 | Noodleman | oh yeah, if you're authenticating over ssh, it's port 22 |
| 04:02.55 | Noodleman | anonymous is port 2401 |
| 04:03.31 | SGI | ok my cvsroot is cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/bzfsgui |
| 04:03.51 | SGI | authentication SSH |
| 04:04.09 | SGI | port 22 |
| 04:05.08 | NegraModelo | i assume you have the cygwin ssh.exe installed and is working? I think wincvs assumes this |
| 04:09.35 | Noodleman | it's america's pastime! |
| 04:09.50 | Spiff | LoL |
| 04:10.41 | learner | :) |
| 04:10.53 | Spiff | ;-) |
| 04:10.59 | learner | howdy spiff, how goes it? |
| 04:11.18 | Spiff | LoL. Pretty good, thanks. |
| 04:11.20 | Spiff | how are you? |
| 04:11.31 | learner | meh |
| 04:11.36 | learner | going okay |
| 04:11.44 | learner | beefing up the word filter some more |
| 04:11.52 | Spiff | Groooovy. :-D |
| 04:12.04 | learner | it's client-side too now, you know |
| 04:12.26 | Spiff | I'm glad for that. :-) |
| 04:12.36 | learner | that means you'll be able to filter rubbish regardless of whether the server does or not |
| 04:12.43 | learner | as long as your machine can handle it |
| 04:12.46 | Spiff | Tho it seems that by the time it's released in a client I won't have time to play BZ anymore. ;-) |
| 04:13.26 | learner | Well.. pffft. Why do you think we haven't released yet? hurry up! |
| 04:13.53 | Spiff | Hehehe. It'll pry be a month at the earliest. |
| 04:14.06 | Spiff | But I've already lost most of my interest in BZ... so it's not going to be a big transition. :-) |
| 04:14.07 | SGI | you released what |
| 04:14.29 | Spiff | The client side word filter, SGI. :-) |
| 04:15.54 | Spiff | Okies... Spiffy's off for a bit. |
| 04:15.55 | Spiff | C-yaz. |
| 04:16.24 | SGI | im downloading the file noodleman |
| 04:16.35 | Noodleman | ok |
| 04:17.25 | SGI | which one ssh.exe |
| 04:32.43 | SGI | is too late ....good nite |
| 04:47.52 | Nidhoggr | I accidentally ate something I'm super allergic to, and am doing my best to avoid the emergency room. :( |
| 04:50.09 | Nidhoggr | coconut oil is my kryponite. |
| 04:50.21 | Noodleman | ugg |
| 04:50.37 | Nidhoggr | there was coconut oil in the chocolate dessert I had at dinner. |
| 04:50.42 | Noodleman | my sister is absolutely put out but anything to do with rice |
| 04:51.01 | Nidhoggr | just a little... but I totally am itching everywhere, and my tongue is swelling. |
| 04:51.12 | Nidhoggr | it's not terrible yet. |
| 04:51.21 | Nidhoggr | just really uncomfortable. |
| 04:52.14 | Nidhoggr | I can eat small amounts of raw coconut. |
| 04:52.22 | Nidhoggr | I just can't tolerate much of the oil. |
| 04:53.16 | Nidhoggr | back when they used to use coconut oil to make popcorn, I was hospitalized for a few days because my throat tried to close. |
| 04:54.53 | Noodleman | i have a problem where when i eat a certain, as of yet unidentified, thing, my feet break out in itchy welts |
| 04:54.59 | Noodleman | just my feet |
| 04:55.08 | Nidhoggr | wow... that is kinda wierd. |
| 04:55.24 | Noodleman | i have the weirdest system, i gotta tell ya |
| 04:55.30 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 04:55.48 | Nidhoggr | this is first reaction I've had in years. since I was in my early 20s |
| 04:56.01 | Nidhoggr | so at least 20 years. |
| 04:56.44 | Nidhoggr | going to rest. later. :) |
| 04:57.53 | learner | yikes |
| 04:57.59 | learner | be well Nidhoggr |
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| 05:06.24 | learner | w00t w00t |
| 05:06.35 | learner | prefix filtering works! |
| 05:06.38 | learner | that was tough |
| 05:15.05 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/common (WordFilter.cxx): Suffix matching is readded and improved; Prefix matching now WORKS..(cool); match performance is reworked a little more and improved. |
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| 05:28.16 | Spiff | I'm back. |
| 05:28.22 | Spiff | Tho I'm kinda sad now. :\ |
| 05:28.33 | Noodleman | why's that? |
| 05:28.59 | Spiff | Mandi came online like five minutes after I left.. and got offline like ten minutes before I got back. :-( |
| 05:29.34 | JBDiGriz | poor spiff no :* |
| 05:30.04 | learner | I hope those are eye's a lips :) |
| 05:30.36 | learner | er, eyes and |
| 05:30.46 | Spiff | She'll pry be back... she sleeps odd hours. Tho I'm not stickin' around. Oh well.. her loss. ;-) |
| 05:31.22 | JBDiGriz | Conversation now has smiley faces. |
| 05:32.01 | JBDiGriz | ~d |
| 05:32.34 | JBDiGriz | She's still hanging around there for a while. |
| 05:33.32 | JBDiGriz | You should go say hi, l. |
| 05:34.29 | Spiff | Ahhhh. I've gotta stop it with this hardcore computing... I sat here for several hours setting this PC up.. and when I got up I think I tore some muscles. :-| |
| 05:34.36 | Spiff | I'm not used to sitting around this much. Blech. |
| 05:38.33 | Spiff | Methinks I'll never do another one handed pushup. |
| 05:48.06 | Spiff | Spiffy's off to bed. |
| 06:06.44 | learner | WOO HOO.. multiple matches too! |
| 06:10.25 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/common (WordFilter.cxx): And finally.. multiple matches per input.. elvis has LEFT the building, the newly re-rewritten word filter is complete. werd. |
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| 06:59.28 | UdontKnow | hmmm, I cant get sound working here, and I dont know where exactly to poke |
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| 08:09.30 | bomber | moin |
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| 09:22.28 | KTL_ | i can construct an algo for bullet impact time for a line two ways |
| 09:22.39 | KTL_ | (i know it 'll be a short line) |
| 09:23.24 | KTL_ | 1. make 2 parallel lines, i have them allready but the algo is a bit bigger and then i should protect 2 hole at the beginning and the end too |
| 09:24.26 | KTL_ | 2. check the radius around the end point, if it's ok then check the radius just before the first check, if that 's ok the same until i get near the start point again |
| 09:28.38 | Chestal | KTL: SegmentedShotStrategy::checkHit() does something similiar to your two lins approach I think |
| 09:29.01 | Chestal | it seems to create a bounding box of the tank's last motion (dt) then check whether that overlaps with shot path |
| 09:29.27 | Chestal | and if it does, calcs tiem of impact, checks if within radius of tank |
| 09:43.21 | larsl | bzfs crashes when it tries to filter the message "you f*ing idiot" (replace * with three suitable characters). |
| 09:43.45 | larsl | If I link it with efence it dies when loading the filter: mmap() failed: Cannot allocate memory |
| 09:50.26 | larsl | It went away when I recompiled again. |
| 09:50.30 | larsl | Seems random. |
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| 10:02.56 | larsl | Recompiled again, now it crashed again. |
| 10:04.21 | larsl | On another code line this time. |
| 10:08.51 | larsl | It's not only in the wordfilter code, it crashes elsewhere too. bzfs must be corrupting memory somewhere (or my RAM might be broken, but all other programs work). |
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| 11:55.37 | KTL_ | the thing avoids bullets ok |
| 11:55.43 | KTL_ | it makes a big circle... |
| 11:55.51 | KTL_ | and drives in the bullets again |
| 11:55.53 | KTL_ | lalala |
| 11:57.25 | [dmp] | its a shame that bzflag dosnt have a neat network api. We are gonna do a project with machine learning using Robocode to create a robot that "learns" and hopefully gets better in time. Would hav ebeen funnier with bzflag, instead of some java-stuff :-) |
| 11:59.59 | KTL_ | (and faster, even with bzflag, ten in java) |
| 12:00.04 | KTL_ | s/ten/then/ |
| 12:00.10 | [dmp] | yeah |
| 12:00.44 | [dmp] | However, on the top200 bot in robocode, there isnt any danish people, so if we can raise our flag at their list, that would be kinda cool :-) |
| 12:00.58 | KTL_ | what game? |
| 12:01.14 | KTL_ | a game whith a massive bot-devel competition? |
| 12:01.15 | [dmp] | robocode |
| 12:01.18 | KTL_ | ah |
| 12:01.21 | [dmp] | yeah |
| 12:01.25 | KTL_ | lol |
| 12:16.28 | KTL_ | debugged again, it drives better now, not good enough yet |
| 12:26.46 | KTL_ | seems he simply doesn't call my new code! djeezes |
| 12:38.21 | KTL_ | ah it works |
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| 13:12.18 | KTL_ | i think bambot just did some fantastic avoiding, must check again |
| 13:21.36 | KTL_ | well, before the problem was that he jumped to much |
| 13:21.47 | KTL_ | now the prob is he doesn't jump |
| 13:22.00 | KTL_ | he can take a lot more situations |
| 13:22.35 | KTL_ | and he always thinks he can avoid |
| 13:22.56 | KTL_ | the old bots approach while he avoids, and at a certain moment they are to near and bang |
| 13:23.16 | KTL_ | should program a fast ecape jump or something |
| 13:27.32 | KTL_ | yes a too-selfconfident bot |
| 13:27.54 | KTL_ | he always thinks there is a way out now |
| 13:31.52 | bryjen | maybe he should keep a minimum distance away from his enemy. or if they get too close, shoot them :) |
| 13:36.59 | KTL_ | well, i've a server with 200 SW flags and a bigger shockwaveradius for that:-) |
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| 13:37.18 | KTL_ | it's needed to keep the 30 other players at a dist ance:-) |
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| 13:38.14 | KTL_ | but he should jump, if he can't evade he should jump, this is not good enough |
| 13:38.15 | bryjen | that would work :) |
| 13:40.15 | KTL_ | djee, a real bullet evader |
| 13:40.38 | KTL_ | and it's a 10 shots server too, imagine the chaos |
| 13:42.15 | KTL_ | oh yes and i changed the old bots to shoot in a bigger angle, so bullets are really everywhere |
| 13:43.39 | KTL_ | if he jumps again i can think about improving the sequence of searching an escapepath |
| 13:44.08 | KTL_ | he must keep driving to his target through the bulletstorms |
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| 13:57.47 | Bagheera | larls away, larls at school, larls at work......where will larls be next? |
| 13:59.27 | larsl_school | Never at work. |
| 13:59.43 | bomber | :o)) |
| 14:01.15 | larsl_school | Did anyone else get three copies of an email survey from a stupid Australian? |
| 14:01.29 | learner | yep |
| 14:05.53 | Chestal | anyone already worked onthe invisibles? |
| 14:06.02 | Bagheera | ~invisibles |
| 14:06.05 | | rumour has it, invisibles is at http://www.filmwise.com/invisibles/index.shtml |
| 14:06.44 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/common (WordFilter.cxx): fill with some non-whitespace alpha that is not the start/end of a suffix to prevent invalid rematching across the voided space |
| 14:06.54 | learner | Chestal: indeed .. |
| 14:07.05 | Bagheera | 8 was easy |
| 14:07.35 | learner | I'm only mising 2, 4, and 7 |
| 14:08.08 | Bagheera | 7 Shawshank? |
| 14:08.35 | learner | nope |
| 14:10.34 | Bagheera | oh well, not having any ideas this week |
| 14:11.06 | learner | 2 and 4 are _very_ familiar but I can't place them |
| 14:12.05 | Nidhoggr | the Seik guy that owns the store near our chapel was murdered last night. :( |
| 14:12.10 | Nidhoggr | he was a really great guy. |
| 14:12.30 | Chestal | I need 3, 4, 5, 7 |
| 14:13.12 | Chestal | learner: I have no idea about 4, but I know 2. movie 2 has ben used several times in ivnisibles already |
| 14:13.20 | Chestal | what's 3? |
| 14:13.30 | learner | help me with 2 and I'll help you with 5 :) |
| 14:13.47 | Chestal | Nidhoggr: murdered? robbed? |
| 14:14.04 | Chestal | learner: I already gave you a hint :-) Here's another one: German actress |
| 14:14.33 | learner | 5 is a comedy.. hence probably why you don't know it :) |
| 14:15.08 | Chestal | I thought that much |
| 14:16.04 | Bagheera | oh man, sry to hear that Nidhoggr.............. |
| 14:16.07 | learner | #5 closely related to #1 cast-wise |
| 14:17.24 | [dmp] | Nidhoggr: I had a very disturbing experience a few years back. I knew this girl, who we sometime meet up with when going to party. 1-1½ years after i last saw her, i heard on the news (nationaltv) that a young girl sufficated. She was doing cleanup (was her work) and she suprised some robbers. They put her into a storage-box which was "closed" (no air coudl pass) .. eventually, few hours later, she died. As she had a common name i didnt really t |
| 14:17.24 | [dmp] | hink much about it, until i saw another tv-program with a picture of her. Damn, i nearly cried. Came as a complete surprise 8~( - I'll surely never forget that feeling. |
| 14:17.37 | KTL_ | euhm bambot just destroyed 50 old bots in that hel before being killed himself |
| 14:17.47 | KTL_ | that 's better then i could do |
| 14:18.59 | fiberchunks | I know 5,6 and 8 |
| 14:19.19 | Bagheera | morn'in fiber |
| 14:19.30 | KTL_ | (some people here see to much movies) |
| 14:19.36 | Chestal | I still didn't get 5, but have 1, 2, 6 and 8 |
| 14:19.48 | Chestal | KTL: you can never watch too many movies |
| 14:19.59 | Chestal | (you can, however, watch the wrong ones) |
| 14:20.05 | fiberchunks | morning |
| 14:20.26 | learner | and I still don't get 2.. don't know many/any german actresses |
| 14:20.36 | Nidhoggr | dmp :( |
| 14:20.40 | Nidhoggr | hi fiber |
| 14:20.40 | learner | lead actress ches.. #5 |
| 14:20.42 | fiberchunks | chestal: #5 -- think 'franks and beans, franks and beans' |
| 14:21.22 | fiberchunks | #2, killing zoe? |
| 14:21.28 | Chestal | no |
| 14:21.30 | Chestal | newer |
| 14:21.41 | fiberchunks | run lola run? |
| 14:21.47 | fiberchunks | nm, I'm just guessing |
| 14:21.49 | Chestal | close in a way :-) |
| 14:21.58 | fiberchunks | same actress? |
| 14:22.19 | Chestal | yes |
| 14:22.54 | learner | ah.. her.. |
| 14:22.57 | learner | got it |
| 14:23.16 | learner | didn't know she was german :) |
| 14:23.25 | Chestal | I still have no real clue about 5, though |
| 14:23.40 | learner | chestal.. I gave it to you :) |
| 14:23.56 | Chestal | learner: I checked some Cameron Diaz movies to no avail |
| 14:23.58 | fiberchunks | think, ben stiller, and cameron diaz |
| 14:24.08 | larsl_school | learner: Did you see my messages about segfaults in the WordFilter? |
| 14:24.13 | learner | then you didn't check hard enough! :) |
| 14:24.23 | learner | there's just something about that one that should make it too eash! |
| 14:24.42 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 14:24.43 | learner | larsl_school: niet |
| 14:24.53 | fiberchunks | hey, #2, does it also star matt damon? |
| 14:25.02 | learner | yep |
| 14:25.07 | fiberchunks | thought so |
| 14:25.15 | Chestal | got it now, I had actualyl tried that before, must have made a typo |
| 14:25.44 | larsl_school | larsl_school: bzfs crashed at random points in the program, but mostly when filtering the line "you f*ing idiot". |
| 14:25.44 | Chestal | no, but Matt Dillon |
| 14:25.57 | larsl_school | With the * replaced by three other characters. |
| 14:26.09 | learner | hrm |
| 14:26.10 | Chestal | learner: the regex code looks scary, the regexp lib has a really ugly C liek interface |
| 14:26.30 | Chestal | I'm pretty sure it is at least leaking memory |
| 14:27.15 | learner | C-like interface? it is a C interface.. :) |
| 14:27.41 | Chestal | yes |
| 14:27.44 | Chestal | and very C |
| 14:28.02 | Chestal | I didn't quite get how it works, but it was so ugly that I couldn't look at it for very long :-) |
| 14:28.17 | learner | hehe |
| 14:28.38 | learner | the only really complicated part is the actual aggressive filter function itself |
| 14:29.21 | learner | and there is a performance tweak tossed in that might be confusing |
| 14:29.45 | larsl_school | Have you tried running it in a memory checker? |
| 14:29.46 | learner | filter words are thrown into a set based on their first letter |
| 14:29.50 | larsl_school | valgrind etc. |
| 14:29.53 | learner | not yet |
| 14:30.23 | larsl_school | I tried linking with efence, but then it run out of memory while loading the filter. |
| 14:30.35 | learner | it hadn't caused any segfaults/core dumps on me yet, and I usually get those.. |
| 14:30.38 | Chestal | someone knows #3? |
| 14:30.44 | learner | larsl.. try the smaller filter |
| 14:30.52 | learner | fiber helped me with #3 |
| 14:31.07 | larsl_school | I'll try when I get home, I'm in school now. |
| 14:31.09 | learner | also related to #5, but for opposite sex reasons |
| 14:31.27 | learner | and also a comedy :) |
| 14:32.07 | Chestal | then I probably don't know it anyway :-) |
| 14:32.53 | bomber | #8 is super |
| 14:32.54 | learner | 4 and 7 are the only ones I have left.. |
| 14:33.11 | learner | ~fishslap bomber |
| 14:33.12 | | ACTION slaps bomber up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 14:33.12 | Chestal | and 3 for me :-) |
| 14:33.15 | learner | everyone knows 8 :) |
| 14:33.57 | bomber | aua |
| 14:34.00 | bomber | :o)) |
| 14:34.12 | bomber | sry but only 1 i know...muhaha |
| 14:34.31 | Chestal | need more hints for 3, please |
| 14:34.44 | learner | main actor in 5 |
| 14:35.27 | Chestal | not sure who of the two is th emain actor in 5, but both of them made 100s of movies |
| 14:35.33 | learner | :) |
| 14:35.41 | learner | mr distilled water |
| 14:36.08 | Bagheera | even I knew 8 |
| 14:36.23 | Chestal | I think I've seen 2 of his movies |
| 14:36.41 | Bagheera | Cary Grant, Inga Bergman |
| 14:38.57 | learner | if I have a std::string in method and I return that string, shouldn't the copy constructor get invoked? |
| 14:39.26 | larsl_school | It should. |
| 14:39.48 | larsl_school | Unless you return a reference. |
| 14:41.58 | Chestal | the compiler is allowed to do some optimizations, though |
| 14:45.26 | learner | larsl.. you ran out of memory? how much do you have? |
| 14:45.48 | larsl_school | 512 MB. |
| 14:45.54 | learner | wtf |
| 14:46.06 | larsl_school | It crashed when that was full, it didn't seem to want to use the swap. |
| 14:46.14 | larsl_school | Which is 256 MB and was completely unused. |
| 14:46.21 | larsl_school | But that is probably an efence issue. |
| 14:47.05 | learner | yea, active shouldn't be aboe 19 mb any more, and with a bounds checker that shouldn't even double |
| 14:48.02 | Chestal | boost has regexp classes, not sure if it's feasible to use them |
| 14:48.09 | learner | let me see how big it gets if I don't compile any of the expressions |
| 14:48.10 | Chestal | gues we would have to ship the code with bzflag then |
| 14:48.12 | KTL_ | good, bambot jumps again as he should do |
| 14:49.29 | learner | it drops about 3mb if I don't compile the expressions.. |
| 14:49.38 | learner | So I don't think that's the problem |
| 14:51.09 | learner | woah.. |
| 14:53.22 | learner | no difference if I don't store the word itself.. so there is about 15mb of dead memory not related to the regexp |
| 14:54.16 | learner | or not |
| 14:59.08 | learner | I'm confused.. it's 15mb if I don't even load the file.. |
| 15:01.36 | bomber | #3 MM |
| 15:01.52 | learner | need 4 and 7 :) |
| 15:02.58 | Chestal | never heard of #3 |
| 15:03.04 | learner | nor i |
| 15:03.26 | Chestal | hmm, how did you get it then? |
| 15:03.53 | bomber | me too chestal...but you have internet or :o))) |
| 15:04.16 | Chestal | is that a woman in #4? Looks so lank |
| 15:04.39 | Chestal | well, yes, if you knwo that Ben Stiller is in it, you can try and guess, but without? |
| 15:04.39 | learner | I got help from fiber or pat for 3, think it was fiber |
| 15:06.34 | bomber | chess do you have all ? |
| 15:07.09 | Chestal | no, 4 and 7 missing |
| 15:07.31 | Chestal | this time I figured out 4 of them by myself, so I'm satisfied :-) |
| 15:07.42 | bomber | 7 is hard |
| 15:13.35 | learner | bah! |
| 15:13.41 | learner | I was reading the numbers wrong.. |
| 15:13.51 | learner | it's not using that much.. |
| 15:16.16 | [dmp] | hmm |
| 15:16.24 | [dmp] | my raytracer is odd :-) |
| 15:17.09 | [dmp] | http://daisy.baat.dk/ray6.png left: no shadows. right: shadows .. or .. well :-) |
| 15:17.36 | learner | url not found |
| 15:18.13 | [dmp] | oops.. 6 should have been 5 |
| 15:18.49 | learner | That's better.. |
| 15:19.26 | learner | the filter is using 4.8 MB on my system now that I've put everything back.. that seems reasonable, now that I read the right numbers |
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| 15:20.07 | [dmp] | Shadows: Do you calculate where they are and decrease the colors, or do you calculate where they light is and increase the colors? |
| 15:20.24 | david_v | hallo |
| 15:20.32 | KTL_ | bambot has big memory leaks |
| 15:20.36 | [dmp] | david_v: Dont play with the power :-) |
| 15:21.01 | david_v | [dmp]: i won't cut my power cord, no... :) what are you talking about though :) |
| 15:21.15 | Chestal | dmp: hmm, don't you normalel sent a ray from eye into screen, find first intersection with object. Then try to sent ray from intersection point to the lightsource. If no intersection, it's lighted, otherwise it's dark (or ambient only) |
| 15:22.00 | [dmp] | david_v: The power blackout in souther sweden, which led to a danish blackout as well :-) |
| 15:22.13 | david_v | oh you mean THAT power :) |
| 15:22.21 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 15:22.44 | david_v | i'm sorry. i shouldn't have DDoSed the power stations :) |
| 15:23.26 | [dmp] | Chestal: so i loop my lightsources. and do: if( pixelInTheDark ) { colors += ambient } else { colors += ambient + shading +..} ? |
| 15:23.44 | [dmp] | david_v: Keep your problems to yourself :-) |
| 15:24.17 | david_v | [dmp]: impossible, i already put them on you ;) |
| 15:24.21 | [dmp] | david_v: actually the radio station have suggested (modified carlsberg commercial) that a danish techicical was visitng your guys with a few beers :) |
| 15:24.27 | david_v | lol |
| 15:25.07 | Chestal | dmp: well, in theory I guess for every light source you'd add object_col * light_intens |
| 15:25.36 | Chestal | I guess usually ray tracers use auto exposure? |
| 15:26.27 | [dmp] | Dont know. I use colors values between 0.1. But if they go above 1 they get scaled down to max 1. It seems to work. |
| 15:26.30 | david_v | talking about other things... i just updated my SSH package after a security hole had been found in it (not the one from the other week) |
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| 15:28.23 | bomber | i have #7 |
| 15:28.35 | david_v | and another thing. finally the SCO stock starts dropping ;) |
| 15:32.11 | learner | bomber... :) |
| 15:32.15 | learner | hint? |
| 15:33.03 | bomber | action |
| 15:34.00 | learner | is that a subway? |
| 15:35.21 | bomber | concentrate on actor |
| 15:37.34 | learner | Hmm.. sweaty male actor wearing a shirt in an action movie... there's only a few thousand of those. :/ |
| 15:37.54 | bomber | no..... |
| 15:38.46 | learner | pretend like I may not have seen the movie.. give me a hint like that :) |
| 15:39.01 | bomber | ninjas are also there :o)) |
| 15:41.21 | Chestal | from which decade? |
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| 15:50.10 | learner | bomber.. another hint please |
| 15:51.06 | learner | ~d |
| 15:51.20 | bomber | they are 2 movies with the same name...muhaha |
| 15:51.30 | bomber | ups there |
| 15:51.57 | bomber | 1995 2003 |
| 15:52.27 | learner | got it, never seen it |
| 15:52.30 | bomber | i have no idea which is right :o)) |
| 15:53.58 | learner | now we just need 4 |
| 15:55.10 | Chestal | bomber: how did you get that one? |
| 16:02.28 | bomber | :o))) |
| 16:02.49 | bomber | actor <-> and action |
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| 16:07.20 | learner | Hi hornigh |
| 16:08.59 | learner | larsl.. when/if you read this: try the latest filter and see if it has the same memory problems. I'm showing just a couple megs usage. |
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| 16:09.17 | TyroneFHornigh | hi, who is Prajwal Basnet and why does he think sending 3 invitations to take a survey is going to make me interested in clicking his link? |
| 16:09.54 | learner | dunno, I got the same junk from him last night and a month ago or so to a different accont |
| 16:10.21 | strayer | hi.... 1. > dunno 2. > Third time is a charm. :o) |
| 16:11.47 | TyroneFHornigh | Is there any news from sourceforge about it? |
| 16:30.27 | learner | I just tested the word filter with electric fence, and there were no problems.. |
| 16:33.08 | Chestal | learner: btw.: why do you use calloc? Must the object be all zero? |
| 16:37.12 | learner | "Must" .. probably not, it shouldn't have any negative effect, though, and it's not in a speed critical section |
| 16:38.07 | learner | I would only ditch it to make it use new/delete |
| 16:38.59 | learner | I need someone to confirm that there is still a memory problem. I may have inadvertantly fixed it when I rewrote the internals |
| 16:48.11 | Spiff | G'morning peoples. |
| 16:48.22 | strayer | hiho Spiff |
| 16:48.51 | strayer | btw....*ouch* |
| 16:49.02 | Spiff | Hiyaz strayer. Didn't know you hung out in IRC. :-) |
| 16:49.34 | strayer | sometimes I do... :o) |
| 16:49.45 | Spiff | Gr0000vy. |
| 16:49.51 | strayer | lol |
| 16:50.37 | Spiff | Ahhh. It's almost lunch time. |
| 16:51.04 | [dmp] | hi strayer |
| 16:51.18 | strayer | hmmm....nbt really...supper-time here |
| 16:51.22 | strayer | nhi [dmp] |
| 16:51.32 | Spiff | Hmm.. Germany, correct? |
| 16:51.32 | strayer | args....the 'n'-syndrom |
| 16:51.40 | strayer | yupp |
| 16:52.03 | Spiff | Cool. :-) I haven't made it to Germany yet... but I'm going to get there one day. |
| 16:52.45 | Spiff | :-) |
| 16:52.55 | strayer | Spiff: ...old globetrotter? :) |
| 16:53.06 | Noodleman | man, microsoft is a bunch of embrace-and-extend losers |
| 16:53.08 | [dmp] | Spiff: ... female? |
| 16:53.39 | Spiff | Something like that. I enjoy traveling.. but before I come to Germany, I want to see all of the states I haven't seen yet. |
| 16:53.51 | Spiff | Hmm, [dmp]? |
| 16:54.11 | Spiff | Noodleman- You just now figured that out? ;-) |
| 16:54.16 | bryjen | hehe. nhi should be the official greeting of BZ |
| 16:54.34 | Noodleman | hehe, i've known it for a while |
| 16:54.36 | Spiff | We need a secret handshake! ;-) |
| 16:54.42 | Noodleman | i'm a web developer :-) |
| 16:54.43 | strayer | Spiff: Germany isn't that huge...so I will be in North Amerca until U R here |
| 16:55.37 | Spiff | Hehehe. I'm interested in Germany and Italy the most.. because those are the two countries that my family originated in. |
| 16:55.43 | Spiff | (On my dad's side.) |
| 16:55.57 | strayer | oha... |
| 16:56.35 | [dmp] | My girlfriend is skitzofrenic. I wonder who our children will track back in the family tree :-) |
| 16:57.05 | Spiff | Hmmm, [dmp]. ;-) |
| 16:58.44 | Spiff | Awwwww... Mandi loves me. |
| 16:59.00 | strayer | mandy? |
| 16:59.18 | strayer | is she online now? |
| 16:59.25 | Spiff | Yepppp. A *really* sweet girl I know.. hehe. |
| 16:59.37 | Spiff | Nah. She left me an offline message... at like 1:30 AM. |
| 17:00.04 | strayer | ah...ok...had not written a line with her fpr....months or so |
| 17:00.45 | Spiff | Okies.... I'm going to go find some lunch before my blood sugar bottoms out and I start feeling woozy. :-) |
| 17:01.00 | strayer | ok.....I will eat now 2.... |
| 17:02.14 | bryjen | learner: ping |
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| 17:06.49 | Nidhoggr | well, I'm going to negotiate to see if I can get a few more megs of free bandwidth, since I found out something really annyoing. other friends and family of the company are getting server space for 60 bucks/year. |
| 17:07.20 | Nidhoggr | then, I'll run 2 more server processes. :) |
| 17:14.02 | Nidhoggr | how easy would it be for a cheater to not show up on radar, but not have a stealth flag? |
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| 17:14.37 | bryjen | your client decides what to show you based on what flag it think the other player has |
| 17:14.46 | fiberchunks | that's probably a more subtle cheat, I would imagine nid |
| 17:14.49 | TimRiker | Nidhoggr: if he does not send player updates, he would look like he's not moving. |
| 17:15.16 | TimRiker | does he move on the 3d view? |
| 17:15.31 | bryjen | until he shoots you and then the shot message updates his position |
| 17:16.17 | Nidhoggr | he moves on 3d |
| 17:18.54 | TimRiker | hmm |
| 17:20.23 | CIA | 03timriker 08v1_7 * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): ws |
| 17:26.26 | larsl | learner: bzfs from current CVS uses 20MB with the options '-badwords misc/multilingualSwearList.txt -filterChat' |
| 17:27.10 | larsl | And still segfaults. |
| 17:28.01 | larsl | Without the filtering it uses ~2MB. |
| 17:28.34 | Spiff | :-) |
| 17:30.08 | larsl | With simpleSwearList it uses ~5MB. |
| 17:30.16 | TimRiker | Loaded 1360 words |
| 17:30.28 | larsl | But still crashes. =P |
| 17:31.55 | UdontKnow | I compiled bzflag yesterday, no errors, I can play fine, but no sound... |
| 17:32.07 | UdontKnow | Linux evaldo 2.6.0-test5-bk1 #1 Wed Sep 10 21:51:01 BRT 2003 i586 unknown |
| 17:32.23 | UdontKnow | alsa plus oss emulation, cs46xx card |
| 17:32.38 | UdontKnow | tried to esddsp bzflag also, no result |
| 17:33.04 | UdontKnow | (and yes, everything else works perfectly) |
| 17:34.18 | larsl | Are you running some kind of sound server or other program that uses the soundcard? |
| 17:34.30 | UdontKnow | no |
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| 17:35.01 | TimRiker | does not crash here. |
| 17:35.07 | UdontKnow | root@evaldo:~# lsof /dev/dsp |
| 17:35.08 | UdontKnow | root@evaldo:~# |
| 17:35.25 | UdontKnow | and my card does support multiplexing, so shouldnt be an issue |
| 17:36.43 | UdontKnow | access("/dev/dsp", W_OK) = 0 |
| 17:36.48 | UdontKnow | open("/dev/dsp", O_WRONLY|O_NONBLOCK) = 7 |
| 17:37.31 | Chestal | can you change the volume in the options menu? |
| 17:37.33 | Nidhoggr | how close are we to a 1.10 release? |
| 17:37.49 | UdontKnow | Chestal: tried, it was at 10, switched to 9 and got the same mute |
| 17:37.51 | larsl | Nidhoggr: Plenty of bugs left, depends on how long it takes to sort them out. |
| 17:37.55 | bryjen | i've seen "no sound in bzflag" mentioned before related to 2.6.0-test |
| 17:37.57 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 17:38.12 | Nidhoggr | brb. reboot. |
| 17:38.20 | UdontKnow | and I set things to max on my mixer before trying |
| 17:38.26 | Chestal | UdontKnow: other OSS applications produce sound? |
| 17:38.50 | UdontKnow | yes, xmms for example, winex, madplay/mpg321,... |
| 17:38.57 | Chestal | sure those use oss? |
| 17:39.06 | Chestal | try ls /lib > /dev/dsp :-) |
| 17:39.06 | UdontKnow | yep |
| 17:39.36 | bryjen | http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0308.1/0613.html |
| 17:39.39 | UdontKnow | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME |
| 17:39.39 | UdontKnow | madplay 3006 root 4w CHR 14,3 2919 /dev/dsp0 |
| 17:39.46 | UdontKnow | its working |
| 17:39.49 | UdontKnow | I hear it |
| 17:40.16 | UdontKnow | tried as root now, but I do it like normal user every day |
| 17:40.36 | Chestal | hmm, no real idea. the bzflag wavs use 22050 Hz I think. You could try and play them outside of bzflag |
| 17:41.27 | UdontKnow | play /usr/share/bzflag/explosion.wav |
| 17:41.29 | UdontKnow | works fine |
| 17:42.08 | UdontKnow | open("data/fire.wav", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 17:42.09 | UdontKnow | open("fire.wav", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 17:42.16 | UdontKnow | some directory issue? |
| 17:42.29 | Chestal | how do you start it? |
| 17:42.40 | UdontKnow | just 'bzflag' as normal user |
| 17:42.49 | Chestal | so, you installed it? |
| 17:42.53 | UdontKnow | it was compiled with --prefix=/usr |
| 17:43.13 | UdontKnow | then I made a slackware package and installed (checkinstall) |
| 17:43.15 | Chestal | you can try and use bzflag -directory /usr/.../data |
| 17:43.21 | UdontKnow | k |
| 17:43.30 | UdontKnow | open("/usr/share/bzflag/explosion.wav", O_RDONLY) = 10 |
| 17:43.37 | Chestal | but when it uses the wrong directory it shouldn't be able tofind even more important files |
| 17:43.41 | UdontKnow | but it did find it somewhat after |
| 17:43.47 | UdontKnow | weird |
| 17:44.05 | Chestal | ah, so there is a succeeding open call? |
| 17:44.32 | UdontKnow | yes, there is |
| 17:44.41 | Chestal | hmm, ok |
| 17:44.47 | UdontKnow | looks strange to me |
| 17:44.55 | Chestal | madplay ises /dev/dsp0, but I suppose /dev/dsp should also work? |
| 17:45.07 | UdontKnow | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jul 15 19:27 /dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0 |
| 17:45.08 | Chestal | mayeb there really is a strange incompatibility between bzflag and 2.6 |
| 17:45.31 | Chestal | no 2.6 here to test |
| 17:45.47 | Chestal | or can someone here report success for 2.6? |
| 17:45.48 | bryjen | Chestal: did you see the link i pasted above? |
| 17:46.03 | Chestal | bryjen: maybe I did then, but now I don't :-) |
| 17:46.21 | bryjen | http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0308.1/0613.html |
| 17:46.26 | UdontKnow | oh |
| 17:46.26 | UdontKnow | does it mmap() the dsp or just opens the standard way? |
| 17:46.26 | UdontKnow | I tried esddsp bzflag |
| 17:46.37 | UdontKnow | this should wrap bzflag and pipe sound to esd (known-working) |
| 17:46.57 | bryjen | esd would have to be running then |
| 17:47.05 | UdontKnow | yes |
| 17:47.16 | UdontKnow | otherwise it would yeld an error |
| 17:47.38 | UdontKnow | evaldo@evaldo:~$ esddsp play /usr/share/bzflag/explosion.wav |
| 17:47.40 | UdontKnow | plays fine |
| 17:47.41 | KTL_ | the bambots killratio was 1100% against the old bots (with a bigger shoot angle) |
| 17:47.54 | Chestal | KTL: can I play against bambot? |
| 17:48.10 | TimRiker | bambot? |
| 17:48.11 | KTL_ | euhm, if that servers isn't updated again:-) |
| 17:48.18 | KTL_ | ~bam |
| 17:48.19 | | rumour has it, bam is bullet avoiding mechanism |
| 17:48.39 | Chestal | KTL: still not synched with CVS? |
| 17:48.49 | KTL_ | and that's all het does, except shooting constantly and driving a bit to the nearest enemy |
| 17:49.01 | KTL_ | no cvs yet, 'll do it when the probs get to big |
| 17:49.13 | TimRiker | do any bots jump yet? |
| 17:49.27 | KTL_ | (bambot jumps when he can't escape anymore |
| 17:49.32 | KTL_ | ) |
| 17:49.33 | Chestal | Tim: Roger aka Otto aka autopilot does |
| 17:49.40 | larsl | valgrind reports lots of "invalid reads/writes of size 1", and then says "More than 30000 total errors detected. I'm not reporting any more." |
| 17:49.46 | bryjen | Otto jumps maybe a bit too much |
| 17:49.48 | KTL_ | myes, but not intelligent |
| 17:49.48 | larsl | I don't know if I can trust it. |
| 17:49.52 | Chestal | mostly for evading shots, but sometimes for hunting, too |
| 17:49.59 | KTL_ | Otto? never seen otto |
| 17:50.19 | KTL_ | ~otto |
| 17:50.21 | Chestal | Otto is Roger's real name |
| 17:50.30 | KTL_ | ~roger |
| 17:50.30 | | BZFlag's autopilot, named after "Airplane's" pilot |
| 17:50.41 | bryjen | chase the pointers |
| 17:51.18 | larsl | ~airplane |
| 17:51.41 | KTL_ | couldn't resolve brlcad.org |
| 17:51.49 | KTL_ | 'll try again |
| 17:51.51 | TyroneFHornigh | Check the imdb for for info about "Airplane" |
| 17:52.01 | bryjen | larsl: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080339/ |
| 17:52.02 | KTL_ | lol |
| 17:52.32 | TyroneFHornigh | GMTA |
| 17:53.01 | KTL_ | (something really rong with my connection it seems) |
| 17:53.07 | KTL_ | wrong |
| 17:53.25 | Chestal | well, bambot must shoot me tomorrow then, I'm off, cu |
| 17:53.30 | KTL_ | bye |
| 17:56.58 | larsl | valgrind also says that bzfs leaked at least 500kB during ~20 seconds. |
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| 18:00.16 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 18:01.20 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 18:01.24 | Spiff | :-) |
| 18:01.25 | Spiff | Hello. |
| 18:02.16 | strayer | Patlabor221: it's Spiff's special way to begin a conversation :) |
| 18:02.43 | Patlabor221 | yes I know |
| 18:02.49 | strayer | k |
| 18:02.51 | Spiff | Nooo. It's my way of saying hello. ;-) |
| 18:02.55 | Spiff | 0:-) |
| 18:03.18 | strayer | oh....I will keep it in mind :) |
| 18:03.20 | Spiff | LoL |
| 18:03.30 | strayer | no...better U don't...hehe |
| 18:03.47 | Spiff | Gollum's Song is depressing. :-( |
| 18:05.27 | Nidhoggr | it's really pretty, but depressing. |
| 18:05.44 | Spiff | Yep. *sniff* |
| 18:05.52 | Spiff | Tho I don't like Leigh Nash's voice. |
| 18:06.09 | Nidhoggr | I am so looking forward to the last movie. |
| 18:06.12 | Spiff | I'm assuming that's who sings in it. If not.. it's someone trying to immitate her. |
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| 18:06.17 | Spiff | Yeah! Rock on Nidhoggr. :-D |
| 18:06.22 | strayer | hm...maybe I should listen more radio.... |
| 18:06.43 | strayer | [dmp]: here? |
| 18:06.55 | Nidhoggr | we watched both of the movies at home on the same day. got me all excited. |
| 18:07.21 | Spiff | Wow. That's quite a lot of film. :-) |
| 18:07.27 | Nidhoggr | yup |
| 18:07.37 | Nidhoggr | going to be longer when the extended version is released. |
| 18:07.40 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 18:07.48 | Nidhoggr | which is supposed to be REALLY cool. |
| 18:07.49 | Spiff | My mom wants to do that the day before we go to see ROTK. LoL |
| 18:07.59 | Nidhoggr | it has the ent draught scene |
| 18:08.07 | Spiff | Ohhh yes. There are some screenshots on http://www.lordoftherings.net |
| 18:08.30 | Nidhoggr | also the ent scene where the whole forest ascends on the tower. |
| 18:08.30 | Spiff | Sorta gives you an idea of some of the things that will be added. Tho I wish there were more pics. :-( |
| 18:08.37 | Spiff | Or maybe a sort of "changelog"... LoL. |
| 18:08.38 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 18:08.44 | Nidhoggr | it won't be much longer |
| 18:09.31 | Nidhoggr | I'm kind of pleased how secretplace is developing it's own sort of community. |
| 18:09.58 | Nidhoggr | I want to add a 2 shot server to secretplace, and a 10 shot server to dragon.org.. dragon.org will probably be all CTF. |
| 18:10.17 | Spiff | Groovy. :-) Two shot r0x0rz. |
| 18:10.30 | Nidhoggr | so both servers will have 1 of each. |
| 18:10.36 | Nidhoggr | 2 and a 10 |
| 18:10.41 | larsl | Nidhoggr: Did you try bzbz.pl? |
| 18:10.51 | Nidhoggr | not yet, larsl. |
| 18:10.56 | Nidhoggr | I will though. |
| 18:11.50 | Nidhoggr | there is a guy who hangs out on secretplace who has been doing maps. at first I'd look at his stuff and shudder. he made 2 new maps that i really like, though. |
| 18:12.19 | Nidhoggr | take a look at dragon.org 5255 it's one of his. he has some potential, and he's like 12 or something. |
| 18:12.52 | Spiff | Why I remember.. back in the day.... |
| 18:12.53 | Spiff | LoL |
| 18:13.08 | Spiff | What callsign does he use? |
| 18:13.13 | larsl | Sussudio? |
| 18:13.15 | Nidhoggr | infinite |
| 18:13.20 | Spiff | LoL larsl |
| 18:13.30 | Nidhoggr | snort |
| 18:13.46 | Nidhoggr | his first few maps were really bad, though. |
| 18:13.48 | Spiff | Hmm.. I don't think I know him. Then again.. I haven't played on the FFA servers much as of late. |
| 18:13.55 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 18:14.05 | Nidhoggr | I haven't played much as of late. :( |
| 18:14.13 | Nidhoggr | I have a broken PC, and have to build a new one. |
| 18:14.18 | Spiff | Bah! That reminds me.. I keep promising Koba that I'll finish my latest map. LoL |
| 18:14.23 | Nidhoggr | and my mac is not happy with bz |
| 18:14.23 | Spiff | Ow. That's a bummer. |
| 18:14.37 | larsl | 12 years... would that be the same guy who uses the callsign Cedric? |
| 18:14.37 | Spiff | Psssst. Mac's are never happy. ;-) |
| 18:14.39 | Spiff | LoL |
| 18:14.56 | Nidhoggr | I don't think so, larsl. |
| 18:15.05 | Bagheera | pretty sure they are not the same....... |
| 18:15.13 | Nidhoggr | spiff, you haven't used a mac recently, then. |
| 18:15.17 | larsl | Because he can be very annoying. |
| 18:15.18 | Spiff | Cedric has come up with some pretty original maps.. style wise. |
| 18:15.18 | Nidhoggr | my mac rules, normally. |
| 18:15.31 | Spiff | Ahh.. I was just kidding. Hoping to get a rise out of learner or JB. :-) |
| 18:15.32 | Nidhoggr | I even use a mac at work, the only one in the company. |
| 18:15.33 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 18:15.45 | Nidhoggr | i do lots of media work. |
| 18:15.51 | Nidhoggr | lots of quicktime streaming, etc. |
| 18:16.02 | Spiff | Tho.. I've found that "good looks" and "playability" are two very different things when it comes to map making. |
| 18:16.02 | Nidhoggr | our company is one of the largest streaming providers. |
| 18:16.09 | Bagheera | mac......how do you use a BigMac for quicktime..... |
| 18:16.10 | Nidhoggr | we host about half of all internet radio. |
| 18:16.16 | Spiff | That r0x0rz. :-D |
| 18:16.35 | Nidhoggr | we also host musicmatch |
| 18:16.40 | Bagheera | especially if you supersize it |
| 18:16.45 | Nidhoggr | lots of bandwidth. |
| 18:16.49 | Spiff | Hehehe Bagheera. ;-) |
| 18:16.49 | Nidhoggr | bags :) |
| 18:18.43 | Bagheera | sry, couldnt resist |
| 18:20.20 | Spiff | Bagheera- Have you seen any of the old turkey regulars lately? |
| 18:20.35 | Spiff | I sorta miss them. Razz, Taz, Derv, BuBu, etc. :-( |
| 18:21.15 | Bagheera | i saw razz and bubu last night........derv doesnt play under the same name that much..........and taz has been around |
| 18:22.08 | Spiff | It seems that, although KP ditched turkey, the mailing list is still active. |
| 18:22.08 | Bagheera | alot dropped off with all the "flame" chat going on.........in fact KP is only showing up once a month or so |
| 18:22.19 | Spiff | I'll hafta send them all a message. |
| 18:22.39 | Spiff | BuBu is one of the funniest peepss in BZ. :-) |
| 18:22.56 | Bagheera | he was rather grumpy last night......maybe it wasnt him |
| 18:22.59 | Spiff | Tho he isn't on the mailing list. But I do have his addy. |
| 18:23.06 | Spiff | Was he dying a lot? |
| 18:23.34 | Spiff | Okay! Enough of this Two Towers soundtrack! Man... there are like 0 happy songs on there. |
| 18:24.01 | Bagheera | no, tim changed the xmission map thanks to my pleading.........some people were not enamoured with it |
| 18:24.17 | Bagheera | i am working some of the bugs out today |
| 18:24.28 | Spiff | Ohhhhhhh. LoL |
| 18:24.40 | Spiff | Pry was BuBu then. Was he wearing the [~T~]? |
| 18:24.52 | Bagheera | no |
| 18:24.55 | Spiff | http://cegullah.bakadigital.com/Le_Petite_Pastache.mp3 |
| 18:25.06 | Spiff | That's better music. And yes, Patlabor.. it's legal. :-) |
| 18:25.16 | Spiff | Then it pry wasn't him. |
| 18:25.27 | Spiff | Did he have "Survival Of The Fittest" in his mail line? |
| 18:25.40 | Bagheera | nope, just BuBu |
| 18:25.48 | Spiff | Chances are it wasn't him then. |
| 18:26.03 | Bagheera | either that or i wasnt paying attention |
| 18:26.04 | Spiff | Tho it could've been. Everyone has a bad night or two. :-) |
| 18:26.38 | Bagheera | well, i need to get some of these edits done or my name is going to be mud in a big way |
| 18:26.45 | bryjen | i haven't tried xmission with the new map yet. i'm not sure i like the 4 team ctf tho |
| 18:26.58 | Spiff | Hehehehe Bagheera. :-) |
| 18:27.12 | Bagheera | i am a 4 team addict...........i |
| 18:27.23 | Spiff | I don't like how it drops my client. Other than that.. the server is good. |
| 18:27.27 | Spiff | Tho laggers tend to hang out there. |
| 18:27.41 | Bagheera | the new map has some touchy jumps that make it difficult to play with a lot of people |
| 18:27.51 | bryjen | maybe it needs a bigger world size |
| 18:27.51 | Bagheera | no laggers last night |
| 18:28.19 | Bagheera | funny, bryjen, many people thought that the map was too big last night.....hahhaa |
| 18:28.43 | Spiff | Sounds like what you thought about my Canyon map, Bagheera. ;-) |
| 18:29.01 | Spiff | A lot of times.. the best maps take some getting used to. In the end you become more attached to them. |
| 18:29.21 | bryjen | huh? you can't make a bigger map in 1.7. its a fixed size 800x800 |
| 18:29.23 | Bagheera | no, in comparison, these jumps are touchier.....ie, low, small blocks |
| 18:29.46 | Spiff | He's meaning bigger.. as in more objects. :-) |
| 18:30.06 | bryjen | i mean bigger playing field. |
| 18:30.09 | Bagheera | i have some simple fixes for most stuff, but there are a couple complex changes that will look like simple edits in the end |
| 18:31.31 | bryjen | although more area would probly lead to more object to provide cover.... |
| 18:31.48 | TyroneFHornigh | Nidhoggr: What's the problem with bz on your mac? I've been using it for a while. |
| 18:32.08 | Nidhoggr | it's mostly just really slow, even with a new radeon 8500 card. |
| 18:32.17 | Bagheera | yep, cant satisfy everyone.....but some of the points, i thought were pretty vaild.... |
| 18:32.23 | Nidhoggr | and the sound is choppy on complex maps. |
| 18:32.48 | Nidhoggr | if I turn off all the cool graphical features, it's playable. |
| 18:33.22 | TyroneFHornigh | I have to doublecheck how it's playing on the G3 imacs and G4 emac. I usually only use the quicksilver for verification. |
| 18:33.38 | Nidhoggr | I have the dual 500mhz g4 |
| 18:33.41 | Nidhoggr | a gig of ram |
| 18:34.04 | Noodleman | i just ordered the dual 1.25 g4 :-) |
| 18:34.15 | Nidhoggr | noodle, yay! |
| 18:34.24 | Nidhoggr | I really want a new mac, but I need to get a new PC first. |
| 18:34.34 | Nidhoggr | the new mac will probably be a powerbook or ibook. |
| 18:34.39 | TyroneFHornigh | I want a g5 ;) |
| 18:34.52 | Nidhoggr | eventually, I'll get a G5. |
| 18:34.58 | TyroneFHornigh | but I'll probably replace the g3 ibook first. |
| 18:35.09 | Bagheera | wait till the G7 is out, I hear it comes with free cookies |
| 18:35.11 | Nidhoggr | I'd like to find a used mac server and play with it. |
| 18:35.59 | TyroneFHornigh | I get plenty of free cookies on all of my machines. Would you like some from yahoo? ;^P |
| 18:37.00 | Bagheera | :) |
| 18:37.05 | Nidhoggr | the PC I am going to build is one of the small cases, 2 ghx p4, 215 mb to a gig of ram, etc. I want to be able to put it on a small card and use it for media stuff. |
| 18:37.23 | Nidhoggr | will probably get a nice lcd monitor. |
| 18:37.37 | Noodleman | 23" cinema display! |
| 18:37.45 | Nidhoggr | if I could afford it. :) |
| 18:37.52 | Noodleman | i wish :-) |
| 18:38.02 | Nidhoggr | I need to sell a little more rack space before I can afford that. |
| 18:38.03 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 18:38.14 | *** part/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 18:43.56 | bryjen | if apple sold pre-built clusters of 1U chassis machines, would they be iraqs? |
| 18:44.08 | Nidhoggr | eeew |
| 18:44.14 | Nidhoggr | bad joke! |
| 18:44.15 | Nidhoggr | ;) |
| 18:46.58 | bryjen | we even have an eserver iseries. double whammy. |
| 18:57.44 | Nidhoggr | hrm M$ is shutting down messenger in a bunch of countries... so now all the pedophiles and spammers are going to come back to IRC. :( |
| 18:58.35 | larsl | They are shutting it down because there are idiots using it? |
| 18:58.38 | UdontKnow | heh |
| 18:58.45 | Nidhoggr | yup. |
| 18:58.52 | UdontKnow | Nidhoggr: really? shutting down |
| 18:58.59 | Nidhoggr | they are only going to allow chat for paying subscribers. |
| 18:59.02 | larsl | Ick. I wonder what they will do to the rest of the internet. |
| 18:59.07 | Nidhoggr | you can still use IM, but no chat rooms. |
| 18:59.23 | Spiff | Pffff. Yahoo should do the same thing then. |
| 18:59.29 | Spiff | Their chat rooms are just as bad as MSN's. |
| 18:59.39 | Nidhoggr | I remember when it was all over EFNet on IRC. |
| 18:59.52 | Nidhoggr | it's gotten some better, because people are policing. |
| 19:00.22 | Spiff | Yeah.. I heard about that. Tho it's been a while since I was in Yahoo Chat. |
| 19:00.34 | Nidhoggr | bbiab. |
| 19:02.20 | KTL_ | oaaaw bambot can drive through a target through the bullets |
| 19:02.39 | KTL_ | to a target |
| 19:05.00 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (3 files): No more sky lag |
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| 19:30.35 | Bagheera | http://windward.nodalpoint.net/doc/media/liikenne.swf |
| 19:30.48 | Bagheera | !!! |
| 19:30.56 | Bagheera | :lol: |
| 19:31.00 | Bagheera | :) |
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| 19:35.49 | Van_Mundegaarde | Bbl |
| 19:36.02 | [dmp] | Do MAC still have a bzflag-related page? |
| 19:36.39 | bryjen | ~google MrApathyCream |
| 19:37.02 | bryjen | ibot: hello? |
| 19:37.03 | | Howdy Bub |
| 19:37.15 | bryjen | ~google for MrApathyCream |
| 19:37.32 | bryjen | the first one |
| 19:37.35 | [dmp] | thanks |
| 19:48.41 | Bagheera | ~xmission |
| 19:49.03 | TimRiker | Bagheera: time to revert the map? |
| 19:51.32 | TimRiker | ~xmission |
| 19:55.07 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-82-84-126-207.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 19:55.34 | *** join/#bzflag Spiff (~Spiff@12-223-213-142.client.insightbb.com) |
| 19:56.29 | Spiff | ibot- got milk? |
| 19:56.37 | Spiff | ibot, got milk? |
| 19:56.38 | | Spiff: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 19:56.42 | Spiff | BAh. |
| 19:56.48 | Spiff | ibot, you're no fun. :-) |
| 19:56.49 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Spiff |
| 19:57.50 | larsl | "Aw, you're no fun anymore." |
| 19:58.25 | TimRiker | ~got milk is <action> $nick chugs down a carton |
| 19:58.26 | | TimRiker: okay |
| 19:58.30 | TimRiker | ~got milk? |
| 19:58.31 | | ACTION timriker chugs down a carton |
| 19:58.37 | TimRiker | eep. |
| 19:58.45 | TimRiker | ~got milk is <action> chugs down a carton |
| 19:58.46 | | ...but got milk is already something else... |
| 19:58.50 | TimRiker | ~no, got milk is <action> chugs down a carton |
| 19:58.57 | TimRiker | ibot: no, got milk is <action> chugs down a carton |
| 19:58.58 | | TimRiker: okay |
| 19:59.01 | TimRiker | ~got milk? |
| 19:59.02 | | ACTION chugs down a carton |
| 20:09.40 | TyroneFHornigh | For all the Californians out there. http://www.funforwards.com/flash/august03/wannabe_governor.swf |
| 20:10.47 | [dmp] | Whee. Shadows work now :-) |
| 20:11.12 | larsl | [dmp]: Now you only have to add fog and fake caustics. =) |
| 20:11.37 | [dmp] | larsl: I'll start with specular :-) |
| 20:13.45 | *** join/#bzflag mmu_man (~revol@ALyon-209-1-25-87.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:21.52 | *** join/#bzflag sn0w_m0nkey (~sn0w_m0nk@photon.health.unm.edu) |
| 20:22.02 | sn0w_m0nkey | mornin |
| 20:22.15 | TyroneFHornigh | afternoon |
| 20:25.03 | larsl | Evening. |
| 20:26.04 | TyroneFHornigh | It looks like we've lost our pisg stats. |
| 20:29.40 | *** join/#bzflag Legolas (~topgunp38@adsl-68-78-109-25.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 20:30.39 | Spiff | Hi m0nkey. |
| 20:32.34 | *** join/#bzflag purple_cow (~jupiter@home-dhcp6-158.Colorado.EDU) |
| 20:32.57 | TimRiker | http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz ? |
| 20:33.07 | TyroneFHornigh | How now 06purple cow |
| 20:33.24 | bryjen | 6moo |
| 20:33.44 | TyroneFHornigh | chatelaine was another pisg bot that was updated every 5 minutes. |
| 20:34.07 | TyroneFHornigh | It displayed at http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/irc.html |
| 20:34.31 | TimRiker | ah. coverage time? |
| 20:34.53 | TyroneFHornigh | It had been running continuously for about 34 days. |
| 20:35.14 | TimRiker | shouldn't that be: how now 6cow? |
| 20:35.48 | TyroneFHornigh | We'll see if he responds to any of them. It doesn't look like it's working. ;) |
| 20:35.58 | TimRiker | so the stats covered that entire range? |
| 20:35.58 | captain_proton | thats because i'm here |
| 20:36.00 | captain_proton | instead of there |
| 20:36.39 | TimRiker | is there anyway to get pisg to total stats rather than reparsing the entire log? |
| 20:36.40 | TyroneFHornigh | Yes, and were mostly amusing things like who talked too much and various one liners from the major nicks. |
| 20:38.02 | TyroneFHornigh | I'm not sure since I didn't set it up. I assumed it just took the irc input and categorized it rather than wandering through a log. I should wander through the code to see what it actually does. |
| 20:38.15 | TimRiker | I've got 160M of logs from ibot in it's various forms. reparsing 160M for each channel ibot's would be silly. |
| 20:38.24 | sn0w_m0nkey | hi spiff ..delayed |
| 20:39.03 | TimRiker | that's why I only offer pisg stats for yesterday. |
| 20:39.37 | Patlabor221 | asgard is down, it should be up later doay |
| 20:39.40 | Patlabor221 | today |
| 20:39.45 | Patlabor221 | like after 5 |
| 20:39.50 | Patlabor221 | man what a day to get sick |
| 20:40.07 | TyroneFHornigh | How's the throat? |
| 20:40.13 | Patlabor221 | eehhhh |
| 20:41.06 | TyroneFHornigh | Did you catch the guv'ner URL I sent earlier? It had me in stitches. |
| 20:42.39 | Patlabor221 | no I did not |
| 20:43.19 | TyroneFHornigh | It might make you feel a bit better. http://www.funforwards.com/flash/august03/wannabe_governor.swf |
| 20:44.26 | TyroneFHornigh | Sorry to hear that. I was down and out over the weekend. Nasty head cold which decided to travel into the chest. |
| 20:46.34 | Bagheera | bzgirl no longer has her web page...... |
| 20:47.24 | TyroneFHornigh | I haven't checked her blog in a couple of days, but the IRC stats were still working this morning. |
| 20:47.35 | Patlabor221 | all those were on the same server |
| 20:47.36 | Patlabor221 | and it's down |
| 20:47.40 | Patlabor221 | go boom :( |
| 20:47.51 | captain_proton | last i checked, her blog just said "bye everyone" |
| 20:47.53 | Bagheera | oy, doesnt sound good |
| 20:47.59 | Patlabor221 | it did |
| 20:48.02 | Bagheera | ditto that cap |
| 20:48.06 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak|work (~cfa61325@p50913E80.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:48.07 | Patlabor221 | she left |
| 20:48.12 | TimRiker | left? |
| 20:48.15 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i'll bet it didn't go boom as badly as navi went boom |
| 20:48.16 | Patlabor221 | left |
| 20:48.24 | Patlabor221 | probably not |
| 20:48.27 | TyroneFHornigh | She's still wandering around IRC, but not this channel. |
| 20:48.33 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:48.36 | Patlabor221 | she left BZ |
| 20:48.50 | Bagheera | another one bites the dust |
| 20:49.11 | Chestal | is she using her usual nick? Haven#t seen her for some days |
| 20:49.24 | Patlabor221 | I don't know |
| 20:49.46 | TyroneFHornigh | Does anyone know what drove her to finally make the decision? |
| 20:49.49 | Patlabor221 | I see her on yahoo every so often |
| 20:49.53 | Bagheera | hope she left because she didnt have time, not because of the rift-raff |
| 20:50.04 | Patlabor221 | the general whinyness and stupidity of her fellow players |
| 20:50.08 | Chestal | Patlabor: yahoo messenger? |
| 20:50.12 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:50.20 | Chestal | hmm, not for some days |
| 20:50.49 | Bagheera | unfortunate |
| 20:50.54 | Chestal | so, did anyone figure out the missing invisible? |
| 20:51.22 | TyroneFHornigh | Pat is the invisibles expert this week. |
| 20:51.32 | captain_proton | ~invisibles |
| 20:51.33 | | i heard invisibles is at http://www.filmwise.com/invisibles/index.shtml |
| 20:51.47 | Patlabor221 | we only got 5 of them |
| 20:52.34 | sn0w_m0nkey | she left because of riff raff |
| 20:52.34 | Patlabor221 | 1,3,5,6,and 8 |
| 20:52.37 | sn0w_m0nkey | ;) |
| 20:52.48 | captain_proton | wow, i have absolutely no clue about any of them |
| 20:52.59 | sn0w_m0nkey | whiners bite |
| 20:53.05 | TyroneFHornigh | 8 is easy, and it's the only one I got |
| 20:53.24 | Patlabor221 | I got 8 and 3 off the bat |
| 20:53.58 | Chestal | only 4 is missing |
| 20:54.45 | TyroneFHornigh | That one looked European to me. I expected you to get it. |
| 20:56.39 | Chestal | too bad that all of my browser stopped working, frmpd |
| 20:57.13 | TyroneFHornigh | Let me guess you're using IE. ;) |
| 20:57.28 | Chestal | nope .-) |
| 20:57.41 | Chestal | ah, I found one which still works |
| 20:59.27 | Chestal | is it raining in 4? |
| 20:59.52 | TyroneFHornigh | It looks like it. |
| 21:02.00 | TyroneFHornigh | Spiff is typing in his sleep again. I often wonder about other people who apparently type in their sleep. ;) |
| 21:02.09 | bryjen | ~weather kowb |
| 21:02.24 | Spiff | Accccccccctually.. methinks it's time to go spend some quality time with my drum set. |
| 21:02.37 | Chestal | isn't the internet great? Now I can know the weather without having to look out of the window |
| 21:03.11 | bryjen | actually, i did look out the window. just wondering about the temprature. |
| 21:03.19 | TyroneFHornigh | You have a window? Cool. The windows around here are relegated to offices, and you have to be somone to have one of those. |
| 21:03.43 | Nidhoggr | I can see a window to the outside from my window |
| 21:04.07 | Chestal | Tyrone: I even have an office which is big enough for two people :-) |
| 21:04.14 | Nidhoggr | we are in a windowed control room, and I can see the front window from here. |
| 21:04.20 | *** join/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net) |
| 21:04.33 | Chestal | actually, 1/4th of my room is windows |
| 21:05.14 | *** part/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net) |
| 21:05.16 | TyroneFHornigh | Chestal: I'm impressed. You must be one of those people who actually controls things around there. ;) |
| 21:06.21 | Chestal | not really; we used to be 2 peopel in this room, but my co-worker left. Now I am hiding in this big room and hope that they forget that I am there (except for the paychecks of course) |
| 21:07.56 | Bagheera | ~slap TyroneFHornigh |
| 21:08.14 | Bagheera | man, brygen must be rubbing off |
| 21:08.15 | TyroneFHornigh | ~fishslap |
| 21:08.22 | TyroneFHornigh | ~fishslap Bagheera |
| 21:08.24 | | ACTION slaps Bagheera up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 21:08.24 | bryjen | the basement was in a nice office building tho. it looked just like the other floors -- execpt no windows |
| 21:08.32 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (menus.cxx): Reducing panel opacity from the max used to jump 1 position: rounded |
| 21:08.49 | Bagheera | shoot, missed the fish |
| 21:09.05 | TyroneFHornigh | It's usually illegal to shoot at the fish. |
| 21:09.07 | bryjen | it didnt miss you |
| 21:10.56 | Bagheera | Tyr: depends on the state |
| 21:11.22 | Bagheera | night all |
| 21:12.27 | *** join/#bzflag luigi (~luigi@3eea39e7.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 21:12.54 | Nidhoggr | ~bzflist |
| 21:13.56 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): Robot doesn't anymore goes into building & rendering option are served immediately |
| 21:14.28 | Patlabor221 | all those are english words... but.... |
| 21:15.24 | larsl | Two more bugs gone from the list? |
| 21:15.34 | luigi | hi |
| 21:15.58 | luigi | xmission has been changed, as i just found out |
| 21:15.59 | Tupone | yeah. Robot, shadow option |
| 21:16.18 | luigi | what happened, anybody know? |
| 21:16.29 | larsl | luigi: Tim switched maps. |
| 21:16.46 | luigi | aha. Sounds logical ;-) |
| 21:17.18 | luigi | ah, volpone is here too, i see |
| 21:17.31 | TimRiker | will likely switch back as there are flag-stuck bugs with the current map. |
| 21:17.48 | luigi | oh, you are the famous Tim Riker |
| 21:17.56 | luigi | i liked xmission as it was |
| 21:18.11 | luigi | but im in for something new |
| 21:18.36 | luigi | so i don't know wheter i shall rejoice or not |
| 21:18.49 | larsl | For world objects, the 'size' parameters is the length of the sides, but for all other parameters it is the length of the sides/2? |
| 21:19.07 | larsl | s/all other parameters/all other objects/ |
| 21:19.54 | Patlabor221 | X and Y are size * 2 Z is size*1 |
| 21:20.10 | Patlabor221 | the world is world size *2 |
| 21:20.46 | Patlabor221 | default is world size 400, makes the world +- 400, so 800 total |
| 21:21.19 | larsl | But if I make a world with 'size 250 250', its sides are 250 units long. |
| 21:21.28 | larsl | Not 2*250. |
| 21:21.38 | Patlabor221 | then that's wrong |
| 21:21.51 | Patlabor221 | that woudl be a world +-125 |
| 21:22.07 | larsl | OK. |
| 21:22.54 | Patlabor221 | having a "lenth" is kinda pointless, as you can't shift the origin of the world |
| 21:23.40 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:24.03 | TimRiker | course that will break maps even worse. |
| 21:24.05 | Patlabor221 | making it double it would make it the same as the X and Y size of boxes and pyrmaids |
| 21:24.07 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 21:24.27 | Patlabor221 | curently a size 10 on a box makes it 20 units total |
| 21:24.36 | Patlabor221 | so the world should behave the same |
| 21:24.50 | bryjen | src/common/global.cxx:82: { "_worldSize", "800.0", false, StateDatabase::Locked}, |
| 21:24.59 | Patlabor221 | untill the entire thing is cleaned up |
| 21:25.11 | Patlabor221 | ok then the map reader just needs to double it |
| 21:25.13 | Patlabor221 | no bigie |
| 21:25.41 | Patlabor221 | cus teleporters also don't follow the rule |
| 21:25.57 | Patlabor221 | they are 2*size+2*border wide |
| 21:27.06 | bryjen | one could argue the teleporter is 2*size and the border is a seperate piece. but I won't. |
| 21:27.09 | Patlabor221 | the world object is the least used thing as it's new so it makes sense to chang it to work like the existing stuff |
| 21:27.20 | Patlabor221 | but you define it all witht he same object |
| 21:27.54 | bryjen | if you set border=0 does the border disappear, or does it do wierd stuff? |
| 21:28.09 | larsl | bryjen: It disappears. |
| 21:28.15 | larsl | Or at least it's not visible. |
| 21:28.24 | Patlabor221 | yeah its valid to have no border |
| 21:28.36 | bryjen | yeah, now that i think of it, i've seen tele's like that |
| 21:28.36 | Patlabor221 | but then you have to set your X scale to 0 or wierd stuff happens |
| 21:28.57 | bryjen | and there's no borders on boxes and pyrs |
| 21:29.00 | bryjen | that'd be weird |
| 21:33.11 | sn0w_m0nkey | i had a dream of a map last nite |
| 21:33.14 | sn0w_m0nkey | is that bad?? |
| 21:33.41 | sn0w_m0nkey | its like a layered steel cage match type of map |
| 21:34.15 | sn0w_m0nkey | circular divided 4 ways by bi-level teleporters |
| 21:36.40 | CIA | 03jeffm2501 * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (2 files): Make world size be consistnt with object sizes |
| 21:39.22 | larsl | CmdLineOptions.cxx:915: invalid operands of types `char*' and `int' to binary `operator*' |
| 21:39.37 | Patlabor221 | ohh god it's a char |
| 21:39.38 | Patlabor221 | dman |
| 21:40.57 | TyroneFHornigh | pat is going for the learner style of checking ;) |
| 21:41.12 | Patlabor221 | I built BZFLS not BZFS to test |
| 21:41.23 | Patlabor221 | set won't take a double |
| 21:41.31 | Patlabor221 | this blows |
| 21:42.43 | TyroneFHornigh | ibot blows |
| 21:42.43 | | Me luv u long time. |
| 21:42.48 | Patlabor221 | talk about ugly |
| 21:42.48 | Patlabor221 | string_util::format("%d",atof(argv[i])*2).c_str() |
| 21:44.10 | Spiff | Uh oh. m0nkey's dreaming of maps. Scary. ;-) |
| 21:44.21 | larsl | Do you need c_str()? Doesn't BZDB use std::strings? |
| 21:45.05 | Patlabor221 | it wanted a const char |
| 21:45.13 | Patlabor221 | but maybe it had an overload I didn't see |
| 21:45.21 | CIA | 03jeffm2501 * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (CmdLineOptions.cxx): put in some uglyness cus we LOVE strings |
| 21:45.58 | Patlabor221 | now I see why mem requirements went up soo much |
| 21:46.47 | *** part/#bzflag luigi (~luigi@3eea39e7.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 21:47.38 | sn0w_m0nkey | class |
| 21:47.42 | sn0w_m0nkey | hssssss |
| 21:48.19 | TyroneFHornigh | I guess sn0w_m0nkey doesn't have any class ;) |
| 21:48.38 | Spiff | LoL |
| 21:48.40 | sn0w_m0nkey | unless i go to grad school |
| 21:49.00 | sn0w_m0nkey | not really interested in anything yet.... |
| 21:49.03 | TyroneFHornigh | There's always extension and correspondence courses. |
| 21:49.05 | Chestal | hm, I think I remember having read a story about a monkey at a university |
| 21:49.08 | Chestal | wasn#t it Kafka? |
| 21:49.12 | sn0w_m0nkey | definately not gonna be CS |
| 21:49.19 | sn0w_m0nkey | hehe |
| 21:49.51 | TyroneFHornigh | There's a famous story about a monkey at the NIH, and a vax. |
| 21:53.50 | Chestal | ah yes, it's "EIn Bericht für eine Akademie" |
| 21:53.52 | sn0w_m0nkey | a vax? |
| 21:53.59 | sn0w_m0nkey | thats like an old machine |
| 21:54.28 | Chestal | nothing sucks like a VAX |
| 21:54.36 | TyroneFHornigh | ibot sucks |
| 21:54.37 | | If you got $5 I'll do more than that! |
| 21:55.42 | sn0w_m0nkey | hehe |
| 21:55.49 | sn0w_m0nkey | you guys... |
| 21:55.51 | TyroneFHornigh | she's a rather racy little bot. It can get worse. ;) |
| 21:56.13 | sn0w_m0nkey | and you wonder why bzgirl ran off :)) |
| 21:56.56 | TyroneFHornigh | I doubt it related to ibot and this group, although I would like to hear about it if someone knows more. |
| 22:00.10 | Spiff | Geez... ibot is a slut. LoL |
| 22:00.25 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~tuckerm@adsl-66-72-30-25.dsl.kntpin.ameritech.net) |
| 22:00.49 | Spiff | Hey Noodleman. :-D |
| 22:00.55 | Noodleman | f00m |
| 22:01.17 | Spiff | Don't worry... I only give one shin-kicking per day. ;-) |
| 22:01.18 | Spiff | LoL |
| 22:01.30 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 22:01.46 | TyroneFHornigh | If spiff were taller, we'd have to worry about our knees ;^) |
| 22:01.54 | Patlabor221 | menus.cxx |
| 22:01.54 | Patlabor221 | c:\documents and settings\jeffm\desktop\bzflag\src\bzflag\menus.cxx(1161) : error C2065: 'round' : undeclared identifier |
| 22:02.00 | Spiff | LoL |
| 22:02.01 | Patlabor221 | what is "round"? |
| 22:02.17 | DTRemenak|work | not square |
| 22:02.18 | larsl | A math function that rounds a float to the nearest integer. |
| 22:02.21 | Tupone | that's my fix |
| 22:02.22 | Spiff | It's easier to kick shins... not as much movement of the foot. :-) |
| 22:02.33 | Tupone | probably miss math.h |
| 22:02.42 | larsl | It's in the C99 standard, it might not be standard C++. |
| 22:02.47 | Patlabor221 | no you included that |
| 22:02.51 | Patlabor221 | why not floor? |
| 22:03.05 | Patlabor221 | or just cast as the int |
| 22:03.24 | Tupone | int cast goes to the lower int |
| 22:03.33 | Patlabor221 | well it don't work on windows |
| 22:03.38 | Patlabor221 | what do you want to do? |
| 22:03.48 | Tupone | the result was, on my machine 0.89 so it jump from 10 to 8 |
| 22:04.07 | TyroneFHornigh | Add 0.5 and use floor |
| 22:04.26 | Tupone | or just (int) |
| 22:05.01 | Patlabor221 | I can just #define round for windows then it will just run it thru the cast |
| 22:05.17 | Tupone | but you should add 0.5 |
| 22:05.27 | Tupone | if we want to obtain the same |
| 22:05.37 | Patlabor221 | you tell me, I didn't make this code |
| 22:05.53 | Tupone | I'll do without round! |
| 22:06.42 | Chestal | just do int(f+0.5) |
| 22:06.53 | Patlabor221 | I am making a round for windows |
| 22:07.06 | Chestal | nah |
| 22:07.18 | Tupone | linking and trying |
| 22:08.56 | bryjen | TyroneFHornigh: weren't you just complaining about not having enough windows earlier? ;) |
| 22:09.01 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (menus.cxx): windows doesn't like round |
| 22:10.08 | TyroneFHornigh | I was marveling that ches had so many, but those windows open your mind to possibilities. This Windows is inappropriately named. |
| 22:13.37 | bryjen | ~dict window |
| 22:14.09 | bryjen | windowspains |
| 22:14.16 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (CmdLineOptions.cxx): pass std::string directly |
| 22:14.33 | *** part/#bzflag UdontKnow (udontknow@udontknow.staff.freenode) |
| 22:15.43 | bryjen | ... _usually_ capable of being opened .... otherwise opaque material ... |
| 22:21.12 | [dmp] | Specular works now :) |
| 22:21.42 | Chestal | send pics |
| 22:22.18 | [dmp] | http://daisy.baat.dk/ray9.png quite colorfull, but was testing 3 lights with different colors. |
| 22:23.20 | larsl | Nice. |
| 22:23.57 | [dmp] | I guess next step would be reflection |
| 22:24.24 | Chestal | radiosity :-) |
| 22:24.26 | TimRiker | is src/common/Ping.cxx used anywhere? |
| 22:24.29 | larsl | Photons! |
| 22:25.05 | larsl | TimRiker: Don't know. |
| 22:25.49 | TyroneFHornigh | Try removing it and see if you get a link error. Then you'll know where it's used. |
| 22:26.14 | Chestal | TimRiker: in communication with lsit server I think |
| 22:26.19 | Chestal | so, in bzfs.cxx and menu.cxx |
| 22:26.21 | Tupone | I think is used for lan discovery. Have to check |
| 22:26.53 | CIA | 03timriker * 12bzflag/src/common (2 files): src/common/Ping.cxx unused |
| 22:27.24 | Tupone | bzfs.h include Ping.h |
| 22:27.30 | TimRiker | there is a src/net/Ping.cxx too |
| 22:27.32 | larsl | Tupone: There are two Ping.h. |
| 22:27.36 | Tupone | ok |
| 22:27.44 | Chestal | ah, uhm |
| 22:28.07 | larsl | Or two Ping.cxx. |
| 22:28.21 | TimRiker | larsl: huh? don't think so. just were two .cxx files. till moments ago. ;-) |
| 22:28.33 | Chestal | why 2 of them? |
| 22:29.36 | TimRiker | histerical reasons I presume. |
| 22:29.36 | TyroneFHornigh | Wow, it lasted a whole 15 minutes that time. I was able to run 3 tests. ;) |
| 22:30.10 | TimRiker | ~spell histerical |
| 22:30.11 | | possible spellings for histerical: historical hysterical historically hysterically |
| 22:30.18 | TimRiker | heh, either one. |
| 22:30.36 | TimRiker | TyroneFHornigh: what did? |
| 22:31.25 | TyroneFHornigh | I'm just whining about Win2000 for the day. ;) |
| 22:32.16 | Spiff | ~dict histerical |
| 22:32.25 | Spiff | ~dict hysterical |
| 22:33.11 | larsl | ~nslookup gravitywaves.homelinux.net |
| 22:49.08 | *** join/#bzflag triclops (~triclops@203-219-160-62-nsw.tpgi.com.au) |
| 22:52.00 | Noodleman | Time has now ended |
| 22:52.00 | Noodleman | Space is gone, stolen away |
| 22:52.00 | Noodleman | Ask me if I care |
| 22:52.13 | Spiff | Do you care? |
| 22:52.14 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 22:52.14 | Spiff | :-) |
| 22:52.28 | Noodleman | i'm sure i would if it really happened |
| 22:52.59 | Spiff | No doubt. |
| 22:58.26 | TyroneFHornigh | I doubt any of us would care if it really happened ;) |
| 22:58.42 | Noodleman | prolly not :-) |
| 22:58.49 | Spiff | I'm not sure that we'd be any the wiser... ;-) |
| 23:10.49 | larsl | Why does the bzfs man page refer to mrouted(1)? |
| 23:10.56 | larsl | It's not mentioned anywhere in the text. |
| 23:11.14 | Noodleman | maybe someone used another manpage as a template |
| 23:11.28 | Noodleman | and forgot to remove that reference |
| 23:12.31 | larsl | Is it OK to remove it? |
| 23:12.34 | TyroneFHornigh | More likely it was added due to multicasting. |
| 23:12.55 | larsl | Yes, I saw that it had something to do with that. |
| 23:12.59 | larsl | Are we multicasting? |
| 23:13.05 | Tupone | multicast is now completely off |
| 23:14.11 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/man (bzfs.6s): No multicasting, no mrouted |
| 23:15.04 | sn0w_m0nkey | gnight #bzflag |
| 23:16.33 | TyroneFHornigh | It's the drugs, pat. ;) |
| 23:16.41 | Patlabor221 | probably |
| 23:16.43 | Patlabor221 | but this may work |
| 23:17.08 | Patlabor221 | the problem has allways been how to controll turret motion and tank motion indepenetntly |
| 23:18.12 | scanline | divide the screen into multiple areas in which mouse movement controls different parts of the tank? |
| 23:19.16 | Patlabor221 | that would be rather complex |
| 23:19.18 | larsl | scanline: You still couldn't control both at the same time. |
| 23:19.32 | Patlabor221 | W and S are forward and back |
| 23:19.49 | Patlabor221 | mouse X does steering, mouse Y does turret tilt |
| 23:20.04 | Patlabor221 | holding down CTRL makes mouse X do turret |
| 23:20.27 | Patlabor221 | when you release CTRL, the tank turns to be on your turret vector and you steer again |
| 23:20.36 | scanline | another bold move toward bzflag morphing into a low quality first person shooter |
| 23:20.46 | Patlabor221 | who said this was for this game skip? |
| 23:20.59 | scanline | s/bzflag/some random tank game/ |
| 23:21.01 | Patlabor221 | I don't think BZ will ever have aiming |
| 23:21.02 | Patlabor221 | it can't |
| 23:21.26 | Patlabor221 | and BZ is a FPS game |
| 23:21.39 | scanline | not in the traditional sense |
| 23:21.48 | scanline | it fits the definition, but gameplay is a lot different |
| 23:21.58 | Patlabor221 | sure, it's not a quake clone |
| 23:22.11 | Patlabor221 | but it has many of the same basic parts |
| 23:22.18 | scanline | yes |
| 23:22.37 | Patlabor221 | and what is the point of having a turret if you can't use it :) |
| 23:22.48 | scanline | hehe |
| 23:23.19 | Patlabor221 | thing that sucks is you really need 4 analog axes to do it |
| 23:23.26 | Patlabor221 | to do it right I mean |
| 23:23.37 | scanline | could just require a joystick and a head mounted display |
| 23:23.41 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 23:23.45 | Patlabor221 | that's one way |
| 23:23.47 | Patlabor221 | or 2 mice :) |
| 23:23.50 | Patlabor221 | or 2 sticks :) |
| 23:23.53 | scanline | :) |
| 23:24.17 | Patlabor221 | oddly an analog game pad and a mouse is rather easy to use |
| 23:25.16 | Patlabor221 | or could use 2 players per tank |
| 23:26.24 | Spiff | ~nslookup 12.254.202.213 |
| 23:26.48 | Patlabor221 | you know your computer can do that now |
| 23:26.56 | Spiff | Ahh.. forgot. |
| 23:27.06 | Spiff | Does that IP look familiar to any of you? :\ |
| 23:27.40 | scanline | I have that same IP on my luggage! |
| 23:27.57 | Noodleman | <Noodlebot> 12.254.202.213 is probably located in parsippany, new jersey, us |
| 23:28.13 | Spiff | Hmmmm. |
| 23:28.14 | Patlabor221 | somone here uses attbi |
| 23:28.16 | Patlabor221 | I've seen it |
| 23:28.18 | TyroneFHornigh | gonk |
| 23:28.38 | scanline | a lot of people use attbi, odds are it's not someone here |
| 23:28.38 | Spiff | Yeah.. my thought exactly, Patlabor. |
| 23:28.47 | Spiff | Whoever it is sorta knows me. |
| 23:28.54 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 23:28.58 | Patlabor221 | I'm very happy for them |
| 23:30.08 | Spiff | Well.. they kept using callsigns related to Calvin and Hobbes.. so I was curious. :-) |
| 23:30.16 | Spiff | And I'm glad you think so highly of me, Patlabor. ;-) |
| 23:30.26 | Patlabor221 | perhaps you should just ohh say, ASK THEM |
| 23:32.11 | Patlabor221 | or less of them |
| 23:32.12 | Spiff | They don't like to answer questions. ;-) |
| 23:32.55 | Patlabor221 | then perhaps you should respect there privacy :) |
| 23:34.33 | Spiff | They didn't ask me to leave 'em alone or anything. Just didn't talk. |
| 23:34.37 | Spiff | All they would say was "Go Spiff!" |
| 23:34.38 | Spiff | LoL |
| 23:34.54 | TyroneFHornigh | Maybe it's just coincidence, and someone else is a Bill Watterson fan. I ran into another Harry Harrison fan playing this game. |
| 23:35.12 | Patlabor221 | sounds like they are just having fun playing a ga em:) |
| 23:35.26 | scanline | sounds like a good excuse to stalk them, sue them for thinking about calvin and hobbes, then eat their pets |
| 23:35.36 | Spiff | LoL scanline |
| 23:35.37 | Spiff | :-) |
| 23:36.03 | TyroneFHornigh | I think scanline needs to spend a little more time off the machine and out in the fresh air. ;) |
| 23:36.41 | Patlabor221 | how do you know he's not outside, using the ibok right now? :) |
| 23:36.53 | scanline | I think everyone needs to spend twice the time taking me half as seriously |
| 23:36.56 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: because i can hear him typing |
| 23:37.07 | Patlabor221 | you could be outside too |
| 23:37.13 | TyroneFHornigh | Maybe he also has a cold, and he's taking the same drugs you are pat. ;) |
| 23:37.20 | Patlabor221 | or the window coud be open and he types REALLLY loud |
| 23:37.30 | captain_proton | on my...telecommuniculture phone! |
| 23:37.34 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:37.35 | captain_proton | well...he does have a model M |
| 23:37.48 | captain_proton | scanline: read-only share |
| 23:37.54 | captain_proton | or so he says |
| 23:38.06 | scanline | captain_proton: well, I started up vmware for some pic-stuff, so I was curious whether it would show up |
| 23:38.10 | scanline | looks like not |
| 23:38.25 | scanline | hah |
| 23:38.37 | scanline | [media] |
| 23:38.37 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.37 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.37 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.37 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.47 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 23:39.18 | scanline | so.. theoretically typing \\navi\media into windows explorer should open it, but it doesn't |
| 23:40.00 | captain_proton | hmm...name resolution issues perhaps? |
| 23:40.09 | scanline | dunno |
| 23:40.18 | scanline | windows doesn't use DNS, does it? it has that nmbd thing I thought... |
| 23:40.20 | Patlabor221 | does your DNS know what navi is? |
| 23:40.30 | Patlabor221 | if it's 2k+ it will try dns |
| 23:41.05 | Patlabor221 | if it's doing TCP networking, if it's that' ipx stuff I don't know what it will use |
| 23:42.55 | triclops | try replacing 'navi' with an FQDN or an IP instead |
| 23:45.08 | scanline | nah, the machine didn't actually have a net connection at all |
| 23:45.15 | scanline | forgot to set it to DHCP after we reconfoobled the networking |
| 23:45.38 | TyroneFHornigh | ~spell reconfooble |
| 23:45.39 | | possible spellings for reconfooble: rectifiable reconcile reconcilable recognizable reconfigure reconciler Grenoble recoverable conformable reconfigurable reconfirmed rewindable conferable confusable reasonable reconfirm reconvene |
| 23:45.40 | scanline | ooh, and now navi shows up in 'computers near me' |
| 23:45.52 | TimRiker | local discovery should allow a msg too. |
| 23:48.59 | larsl | Or make -public a flag that tells the server whether to contact the list server, and use -description for the description. |
| 23:50.05 | TimRiker | larsl: yeah. that would be better. can't do -public without -description though. |
| 23:50.21 | TimRiker | might as well require -email too and not publish that. |
| 23:51.14 | larsl | Require it and not publish it? |
