| 00:00.13 | bryjen | and should the # and/or size of objects in a random world be proportional to the size of the world? |
| 00:00.54 | Patlabor221 | that is what I am fixing now |
| 00:01.01 | Patlabor221 | but they are not random sized |
| 00:01.07 | Patlabor221 | they will just scale |
| 00:02.17 | bryjen | random sizes would needs bounds. no 1x1x1 or 100x100x100 boxes. |
| 00:02.22 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:02.28 | Patlabor221 | perhaps later then |
| 00:02.36 | Patlabor221 | it would be nice to specify those bounds |
| 00:02.41 | Patlabor221 | and the number of boxes |
| 00:03.42 | bryjen | and the number of object might need to relate to the objects sizes. more small objects or fewer large object to get consistent coverage on the map |
| 00:04.25 | *** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient80-218-118-173.hispeed.ch) |
| 00:08.04 | bryjen | hey, Patlabor221, bzfs.cxx:6113: fprintf(stderr, "using world size of \"%f\"\n", speedTolerance); |
| 00:09.50 | Patlabor221 | yeah just fixed that too |
| 00:09.59 | Patlabor221 | as soon as I fix this crash I'm commiting |
| 00:14.47 | Patlabor221 | something is busted with CTF worlds, they arn't sending enough data |
| 00:16.20 | CIA | 03jeffm2501 * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): Fixes to scale random world objet sizes to variable world size |
| 00:17.20 | bryjen | hmm, bzgirl's got an enlarged ctf running. donno what snappy of the code she's running tho |
| 00:17.44 | learner | hmm.. that doesn't sound um.. right |
| 00:17.53 | bryjen | ? |
| 00:18.13 | Patlabor221 | seems -cr worlds are off by a short it seems |
| 00:20.32 | bzgirl | brygen 08-16-04-01-01 |
| 00:20.43 | bzgirl | bryjen 08-16-04-01-01 |
| 00:21.56 | learner | hmm.. funkyness |
| 00:22.15 | learner | i joined bzg's server and all was good until byjen joined |
| 00:22.34 | learner | then my key bindings stopped working |
| 00:22.44 | bryjen | and I had no team flag |
| 00:22.47 | learner | no chat, no shoot (though mouse worked) |
| 00:23.09 | bryjen | you shot me! |
| 00:23.16 | learner | with the mouse :) |
| 00:23.31 | bryjen | ah |
| 00:23.34 | learner | but then i couldn't respawn since "i" didn't wrk |
| 00:23.41 | bryjen | looked like a normal bullet to me ;) |
| 00:23.54 | bryjen | right click! |
| 00:23.58 | bryjen | to start! |
| 00:24.20 | learner | there is no right click on my client |
| 00:25.16 | bryjen | eh? Ooooh, I remember, you're one of /those/ people. |
| 00:25.32 | fiberchunks | heheh |
| 00:26.06 | bzgirl | how do you live like that? |
| 00:26.12 | bryjen | and to think I was upset when I couldnt find a nice _three_ button mouse. |
| 00:27.04 | bryjen | bigger map could use more cover (pat's working on that) or teleporters |
| 00:27.23 | bzgirl | more cover should be good |
| 00:27.35 | bzgirl | then we have 10 vs 10 ctf |
| 00:28.26 | bryjen | it was hard enough getting 2 teams of 3 people together.... |
| 00:29.01 | bzgirl | well, i did have 8 vs 8 one shot ctf once |
| 00:29.08 | bzgirl | its fun |
| 00:30.06 | bryjen | different tactics with more 'mates. maybe itll attract more players |
| 00:30.08 | Patlabor221 | well as far as I can tell, all -cr worlds are busted now, the world isn't sent with a world end marker |
| 00:30.46 | bryjen | so it sits there waiting for the end of the world? ;) |
| 00:31.00 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 00:31.04 | bzgirl | is it now trying to scale up the size of the buildings to match the world? or increase the # of buildings? |
| 00:31.09 | Patlabor221 | reading what ever mem is after it |
| 00:31.15 | Patlabor221 | cus we don't even check the size |
| 00:31.22 | larsl | Patlabor221: Is that what causes the client to crash. |
| 00:31.24 | larsl | ? |
| 00:31.26 | Patlabor221 | it will change the base size of the buildings |
| 00:31.33 | Patlabor221 | yes that is what kills the clients |
| 00:31.50 | Patlabor221 | now what I see is, the server writes the WorldCodeEnd |
| 00:32.04 | Patlabor221 | but don't know why the client dosnt' get it |
| 00:32.23 | Patlabor221 | defineTeamWorld is bizare |
| 00:34.33 | bryjen | what-the-heck is CitySize ? |
| 00:34.44 | learner | about 3.5 |
| 00:34.53 | larsl | Patlabor221: Hehe, some of that is my code. |
| 00:34.54 | Patlabor221 | it's makes a very specific type of map |
| 00:34.56 | Patlabor221 | it's not really random |
| 00:35.08 | bryjen | include/global.h:const int CitySize = 5; |
| 00:35.26 | bryjen | Okey. magic numbers I suppose... |
| 00:36.42 | larsl | Although I just changed it so it wouldn't place boxes on bases. |
| 00:39.49 | bryjen | I get a server segfault on join using bzfs -c |
| 00:40.31 | bryjen | with bzfs -cr the server runs ok, but the client can get the world |
| 00:40.41 | bryjen | err, cannot get |
| 00:40.42 | Patlabor221 | it seems to be a general CTF problem |
| 00:40.48 | Patlabor221 | I think it's how the bases are sent |
| 00:40.53 | Patlabor221 | it's the new stuff mac set up |
| 00:40.55 | Patlabor221 | looking now |
| 00:42.31 | larsl | Hm. There's a player on xmission with an empty callsign. |
| 00:42.38 | larsl | Didn't know you could do that. |
| 00:42.49 | Patlabor221 | probalby spaces |
| 00:44.24 | Patlabor221 | LOL we figure out the size for the world database without even taking the bases into account |
| 00:44.36 | Patlabor221 | how did this ever work |
| 00:44.39 | larsl | No, no spaces. |
| 00:44.40 | larsl | "" |
| 00:44.48 | larsl | ~xmission |
| 00:45.17 | larsl | Beh, now it's not there. |
| 00:46.48 | bryjen | Patlabor221 |
| 00:47.10 | Patlabor221 | dosn't seem like mac comped for the incresed based size |
| 00:47.19 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.20 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.22 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.23 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.28 | Patlabor221 | yeah but the size is wrong |
| 00:48.00 | Patlabor221 | he's doing 40 per base |
| 00:48.07 | Patlabor221 | and it's only 36 |
| 00:49.01 | bryjen | 'cause its hard numbers insteaed of some kindof sizeof(Base) or sizeOfBase |
| 00:49.02 | DTRemenak | larsl: could be ASCII 127 |
| 00:49.12 | Patlabor221 | it's all hardcoded |
| 00:49.16 | Patlabor221 | it's horible |
| 00:49.23 | Patlabor221 | a short got added |
| 00:49.29 | Patlabor221 | and some things rearanged |
| 00:50.31 | bryjen | erg. or why doesn't world->getDatabaseSize() give you the number you want? instead of having to fiddle with it. |
| 00:50.44 | Patlabor221 | bases aren't in the world database |
| 00:50.54 | Patlabor221 | they are added seperately |
| 00:51.15 | Patlabor221 | cus a map could define bases but not be a CTF game, so it could posibly not send them |
| 00:51.41 | bryjen | that explains the if for ctf game style. there also other numbers added even for non-ctf |
| 00:51.56 | Patlabor221 | that's for the header |
| 00:52.02 | Patlabor221 | thats also not part of the database |
| 00:53.26 | bryjen | slightly misleading variable name then. s/worldDatabaseSize/worldDatabaseAndOtherStuffSize |
| 00:53.41 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 00:54.07 | Patlabor221 | hmmm it also puts in space for 4 teams when there may not be 4 teams |
| 00:54.40 | Patlabor221 | got it ( I think ) |
| 00:54.52 | Patlabor221 | for random games, the bases are in the database |
| 00:54.59 | Patlabor221 | for non random games they arn't |
| 00:55.01 | Patlabor221 | how odd |
| 00:56.05 | bryjen | and the then client would decide whether or not to draw them? |
| 00:56.13 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 00:56.29 | Patlabor221 | in a random CTF world you know there are bases |
| 00:56.35 | Patlabor221 | and there are suposed to be bases |
| 00:56.38 | Patlabor221 | so you can allways put them in |
| 00:56.39 | bryjen | erg. random ctf or non-random ctf. random != FFA |
| 00:56.49 | Patlabor221 | no CTF with a map |
| 00:57.24 | Patlabor221 | the client only gets bases when there are suposed to be bases |
| 00:57.27 | bryjen | oh, yeah. ctf has a builtin map too, doesnt it |
| 00:57.28 | Patlabor221 | that's what all this code does |
| 00:57.42 | Patlabor221 | yeah, |
| 00:57.46 | Patlabor221 | this code is all funky |
| 01:05.32 | Patlabor221 | I dono |
| 01:05.40 | bryjen | you could check if the bases are needed as you're making the database (and include them if they are), so that world->getDatabaseSize() doesnt need that tweaking at transmit |
| 01:05.40 | Patlabor221 | Mac is gonna have to fix it, he redid all this stuff |
| 01:05.58 | Patlabor221 | there is a lot we could do |
| 01:06.11 | Patlabor221 | and it's at pack time, not trasmit |
| 01:06.14 | Patlabor221 | so it's a one shot |
| 01:06.22 | Patlabor221 | it looks to be a cludge |
| 01:06.23 | bryjen | or i could just shut up ;) |
| 01:07.16 | Patlabor221 | ibot: message for Mr.ApathyCream looks like CTF is busted with the new map transmit format, I can't figure it out. |
| 01:07.50 | bryjen | ~seen Mr.ApathyCream |
| 01:07.51 | | i haven't seen 'mr.apathycream', bryjen |
| 01:08.04 | bryjen | ~seen ibot |
| 01:08.05 | | bryjen: i haven't seen 'ibot' |
| 01:08.48 | bryjen | ~seen MrApathyCream |
| 01:08.48 | | mrapathycream <MAC@balt-209-163-100-12.qis-dynamic-dialup.coretel.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 6h 11m 15s ago, saying: 'howdy learner... '. |
| 01:09.07 | Patlabor221 | ibot: message for MrApathyCream looks like CTF is busted with the new map transmit format, I can't figure it out. |
| 01:09.09 | Patlabor221 | there :) |
| 01:10.08 | bryjen | that nick looks different w/o caps. |
| 01:10.15 | CIA | 03jeffm2501 * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): cr random ctf worlds will not send to client, will crash and burn. don't know how to fix. |
| 01:10.36 | bryjen | m-rapa-thy-cream |
| 01:10.42 | bryjen | eep |
| 01:11.01 | Patlabor221 | you rapa your own cream there skip |
| 01:12.46 | Patlabor221 | are you playing with your iPuck again? |
| 01:13.39 | larsl | Need sleep |
| 01:15.19 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak_ (~DTRemenak@host-226-48.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 01:17.46 | bzgirl | learner: get popcorn |
| 01:19.13 | bryjen | Mmmmm w/ butter & salt |
| 01:26.06 | *** join/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 01:26.12 | SGI | hello |
| 01:26.18 | SGI | hi |
| 01:26.41 | dougAtWork | greetings ans salutions |
| 01:27.25 | bzgirl | hi |
| 01:27.58 | SGI | hi babe |
| 01:28.05 | SGI | ~bzgirl |
| 01:28.06 | | methinks bzgirl is the coolest around |
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| 02:34.52 | Patlabor221 | actualy anyone to read it :) |
| 02:35.39 | Patlabor221 | well I doubt you would get it |
| 02:35.48 | Patlabor221 | but http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/ |
| 02:40.05 | Patlabor221 | gack, I show up on google |
| 02:40.13 | dougAtWork | cool |
| 02:41.03 | *** join/#bzflag jolly (~hjjj@jvnineteen.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 02:42.27 | bzgirl | hey j |
| 02:42.38 | jolly | hiya :) |
| 02:42.51 | Patlabor221 | birthday girl |
| 02:42.59 | jolly | :) |
| 02:45.28 | *** join/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 02:47.02 | SGI | finally |
| 02:47.09 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:47.20 | SGI | after 30 years |
| 02:47.23 | dougAtWork | what did he say? |
| 02:47.47 | Patlabor221 | that he moved from his house to an apartment,cus he"just couldn't resist moving" |
| 02:47.53 | Patlabor221 | aka they kicked him out |
| 02:47.56 | dougAtWork | hahah |
| 02:48.05 | dougAtWork | "his" house |
| 02:48.11 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:48.26 | Patlabor221 | noone moves from a house to an apt just for kicks |
| 02:48.45 | dougAtWork | unless they have free broadband... |
| 02:48.50 | bzgirl | could be a crappy house and aa great apt |
| 02:48.58 | Patlabor221 | no apt has free bb |
| 02:48.59 | dougAtWork | and that |
| 02:49.07 | SGI | depend of your parents |
| 02:49.10 | Patlabor221 | then why not sell the house and get a better house :) |
| 02:49.24 | SGI | basement for the kid |
| 02:49.38 | SGI | im a bad guy |
| 02:50.33 | SGI | my mother kicked me ouy with a baseball bat |
| 02:50.58 | SGI | ouy .....(pain reveived |
| 02:51.03 | SGI | received |
| 02:51.41 | Patlabor221 | you sure it wasn cus of your meth lab? |
| 02:52.06 | SGI | nooooooooooooooooooo |
| 02:52.18 | Patlabor221 | ohh she was cool with the meth lab? |
| 02:52.29 | Patlabor221 | that's a really cool mum |
| 02:52.30 | SGI | yes she was my client |
| 02:52.56 | SGI | i was 13 when she kicked me out for a ....... |
| 02:53.14 | dougAtWork | hey Patlabor221: you still work for rgpsales? |
| 02:53.15 | SGI | 2 pounds |
| 02:53.24 | Patlabor221 | on ocasion doug |
| 02:53.32 | dougAtWork | ah |
| 02:53.34 | Patlabor221 | basicly when they need me |
| 02:53.40 | dougAtWork | heh |
| 02:55.11 | SGI | I reveived your email |
| 02:55.22 | SGI | how it was without power |
| 02:56.56 | SGI | yes |
| 02:57.10 | bzgirl | heh |
| 02:57.16 | bzgirl | sgi wrong window |
| 02:57.54 | dougAtWork | yea, I understand how getting pound on the head with a baseball bat feels |
| 02:58.11 | SGI | ok |
| 02:58.21 | SGI | mine too |
| 02:58.26 | SGI | :0) |
| 02:59.31 | SGI | I turned off cus someone |
| 02:59.44 | SGI | bothering me |
| 02:59.51 | SGI | tell me how |
| 02:59.58 | dougAtWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.08 | SGI | thenks |
| 03:00.13 | SGI | thanks |
| 03:09.15 | SGI | and birthday in the same day |
| 03:10.35 | bryjen | Hey Patlabor221 http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/viewtopic.php?t=969 |
| 03:11.09 | bryjen | Rule #1.75: No, we will not make you a cheat client. |
| 03:11.10 | SGI | no hacker but cracker |
| 03:11.38 | SGI | they are diffrent |
| 03:11.45 | SGI | different |
| 03:12.25 | bryjen | SGI: yup |
| 03:14.58 | SGI | effort |
| 03:14.59 | learner | howdy sgi |
| 03:15.06 | SGI | Ola |
| 03:18.44 | SGI | help |
| 03:20.07 | SGI | send me money |
| 03:20.17 | SGI | :o) |
| 03:22.15 | SGI | im waiting |
| 03:23.17 | SGI | no you mailed your bill...credit card |
| 03:23.38 | bryjen | oopsa. honest mistake ;) |
| 03:23.46 | bzgirl | :) |
| 03:23.58 | learner | did you pay it? |
| 03:24.38 | SGI | no I sent back to......Africa |
| 03:24.58 | SGI | a friend in "Capetown" |
| 03:25.05 | SGI | south |
| 03:25.27 | SGI | hes going to foward @ another friend ...Australia |
| 03:25.32 | bryjen | as long as it wasnt Nigeria |
| 03:25.56 | SGI | no there they want your Account number |
| 03:27.09 | SGI | Women and men |
| 03:27.27 | SGI | SGI is ,,,,,,,butter tired |
| 03:27.34 | learner | sgi, send me your account number and I'll be sure to make a transaction :) |
| 03:27.36 | SGI | im going to taste the bed |
| 03:27.41 | learner | ewww |
| 03:28.23 | SGI | the account ...red |
| 03:28.35 | SGI | green |
| 03:28.42 | SGI | without money |
| 03:28.53 | SGI | square |
| 03:33.04 | SGI | I g2g noe im really tired |
| 03:33.12 | SGI | nbye good night all |
| 03:33.22 | jolly | cya SGI |
| 03:33.26 | SGI | dam mmmmmmmmmmmm "n" |
| 03:33.27 | bryjen | 'nite |
| 03:33.35 | learner | g'night sgi |
| 03:33.42 | learner | too early to sleep :) |
| 03:33.58 | bzgirl | cu SGI |
| 03:34.14 | SGI | work tomorrow and this morning too |
| 03:34.23 | SGI | bye bey |
| 03:34.28 | SGI | bye bye |
| 03:34.30 | *** part/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 03:40.56 | learner | a cigar!? |
| 03:41.25 | jolly | lol |
| 03:41.33 | bzgirl | j/k |
| 03:41.36 | learner | *cough* *cough* |
| 03:44.49 | bryjen | *kerrr-rash* |
| 03:45.32 | bryjen | odd. playing along on hashmark, then suddenly, *poof* no bzflag |
| 03:45.57 | bryjen | ~hashmark |
| 03:46.18 | bryjen | its still there. people still have scores too... |
| 03:46.20 | learner | that's a lot of players ... |
| 03:47.31 | bzgirl | Pork Pie Johnson... is that from some movie or something? |
| 03:49.28 | learner | maybe he just likes pork pies? |
| 03:51.21 | bzgirl | its funny callsign |
| 05:03.35 | learner | VotingPoll |
| 05:03.39 | learner | VotingBooth |
| 05:05.38 | learner | ~dict poll |
| 05:37.28 | learner | well... the mob has spoken |
| 05:37.32 | learner | VotingBooth it is |
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| 05:47.24 | learner | hiya MAC |
| 05:53.49 | MrApathyCream | hiya |
| 06:14.56 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): fix world database size when using ctf |
| 06:15.26 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (TODO): more future todos |
| 06:19.10 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): fixem bugs |
| 06:30.54 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (TODO): added vote banning |
| 06:31.35 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/include (VotingBooth.h): initial voting booth class skeleton |
| 06:38.42 | MrApathyCream | voting booth :) |
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| 08:11.31 | Scipio | anyone around? |
| 08:44.25 | *** join/#bzflag Scipio (chris@dragon.org) |
| 08:46.32 | Scipio | okay it's really late so i doubt anyone's here, so i'll just throw this out |
| 08:47.07 | Scipio | bzflag.secretplace.us is not showing up in the 'Find Server' list and we're not sure why. Nothing changed on our end. |
| 08:47.22 | Scipio | we didn't change configs on our end |
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| 08:51.32 | Scipio | doug? |
| 08:51.52 | Scipio | *sigh* |
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| 09:36.06 | larsl | ~seen [dmp] |
| 09:36.06 | | [dmp] <~dennis@D40A3023.rev.stofanet.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 10h 51m 31s ago, saying: 'cu david_v'. |
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| 10:29.45 | david_v | hallo |
| 10:30.11 | [dmp] | Hello World |
| 10:36.58 | [dmp] | "oops" :-) http://asdfg.mine.nu/~rehabdoll/pics/BBC-Sweden.jpg |
| 10:38.14 | david_v | lol |
| 10:38.35 | david_v | i'll sue the ties out of them! :) |
| 10:38.37 | [dmp] | Todays Bulletshit about beeing swedish, was provided by BBC :-) |
| 10:39.25 | david_v | hmm :) |
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| 10:42.46 | [dmp] | silly bonds; http://asdfg.mine.nu/~rehabdoll/pics/Killer_Biscuits_.JPG :-) |
| 10:43.22 | [dmp] | blonds even |
| 10:44.22 | prodan | hi ho |
| 10:46.19 | prodan | i installed 1.7g2 on debian and now -geometry800x600 no longer works( i just get a tiny window. Any ideas where I could search? |
| 10:47.04 | david_v | [dmp]: LOL :) |
| 10:48.49 | [dmp] | No idea, prodan |
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| 10:52.57 | prodan | hmmm so itss back to 1.7g0 thx anyway |
| 10:54.05 | larsl | [dmp]: I think I've found an error in the ladders - you're listing my server as glasstower.homelinux.net, the real name is glasstowerS.homelinux.net. |
| 10:59.39 | david_v | heh... http://asdfg.mine.nu/~rehabdoll/pics/a_very_long_flight.jpg |
| 11:00.14 | [dmp] | saw it :) |
| 11:00.27 | [dmp] | some of them are pretty funny :-) Still browsing |
| 11:03.40 | david_v | yeah |
| 11:03.43 | [dmp] | larsl: The server have collected data from your server almost 700 times. THe missing is just a typo in the ladder-name, not servername, which is correct. |
| 11:04.09 | [dmp] | hmm how much activity is there on your server? And which hours? |
| 11:09.33 | larsl | It's very different. Two days ago it was almost full all night (~19-01 CET), yesterday there was at most 5 players on. |
| 11:09.56 | larsl | During the morning and early afternoon it's mostly empty. |
| 11:23.10 | [dmp] | david_v: http://asdfg.mine.nu/~rehabdoll/pics/skrivefeil.jpg :-) |
| 11:23.13 | david_v | http://asdfg.mine.nu/~rehabdoll/pics/fitness.jpg :) |
| 11:23.24 | david_v | hmm k ;) |
| 11:23.26 | [dmp] | david_v: i really dont see the problem :-) |
| 11:23.51 | david_v | with your link or mine? :) |
| 11:24.19 | [dmp] | yours :) |
| 11:24.31 | david_v | you want to get fitness, and you can't even walk up the stairs? :) |
| 11:26.54 | [dmp] | If you pay for getting in shape, you might as well get abit comfortable before/after your excersize :-) |
| 11:27.18 | [dmp] | I always fun it abit funny, how many people who uses the car to go to fitness. |
| 11:27.33 | david_v | hmm |
| 11:28.03 | [dmp] | ~ispell exercise |
| 11:28.04 | | 'exercise' may be spelled correctly |
| 11:28.26 | [dmp] | Personally I'd run to/from the fitnesscenter. |
| 11:42.51 | david_v | http://asdfg.mine.nu/~rehabdoll/pics/please_complain_here.jpg :) |
| 12:10.18 | david_v | i'll be back later |
| 12:10.34 | david_v | cya |
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| 12:23.47 | [dmp] | wb prodan |
| 12:24.04 | prodan | hi ho |
| 12:24.16 | prodan | ni trashed bzflag |
| 12:24.26 | [dmp] | damn you :) |
| 12:24.28 | prodan | :-( |
| 12:24.58 | prodan | n1.7g2 only comes up in a minute window |
| 12:24.59 | Chestal | prodan: bzflag -window -geometry 800x600 works fine for me with 1.7g2 from Debian |
| 12:25.11 | prodan | 1.7g0 is slow as hell |
| 12:25.23 | prodan | strange |
| 12:25.36 | prodan | nim just doing a apt-get source |
| 12:25.39 | Chestal | when it's slow then you probably have no direct rendering, check with glxinfo |
| 12:25.44 | Chestal | uh, why source? |
| 12:25.46 | prodan | nwhere is the default size |
| 12:25.46 | prodan | in the source code? |
| 12:26.04 | Chestal | there is no default size, it runs fullscreen by default |
| 12:26.10 | prodan | hmmm |
| 12:26.14 | prodan | bzflag -window |
| 12:26.22 | [dmp] | #bzflag - We got plenty of "n"s :-) |
| 12:26.23 | Chestal | have you tried to erase/hide your config file ~/.bzflag[.hostname] |
| 12:26.36 | prodan | fullscreen doesnt work |
| 12:26.43 | prodan | nit trashes my screen |
| 12:26.47 | prodan | damn n |
| 12:26.56 | Chestal | sounds liek your X is messed up |
| 12:27.11 | prodan | well i see fullscreen |
| 12:27.21 | prodan | just full of lines |
| 12:27.28 | prodan | like out of sync |
| 12:27.35 | prodan | nhmmm |
| 12:27.53 | prodan | maybe ill have to update X |
| 12:28.21 | Chestal | well, try the config file trick, see what glxinfo says (direct/indirect rendering) |
| 12:28.23 | prodan | btw glxinfo says direct rendering is on |
| 12:28.45 | prodan | chestal: when i do bzflag -window |
| 12:28.58 | prodan | where in soource is default window size |
| 12:29.58 | Chestal | I don't know if there is one, not sure how it handles this for the first time, it might use the resolution |
| 12:30.11 | Chestal | have you tried runnign without a config file? |
| 12:30.55 | Chestal | if fullscreen is out of sync you might have resolutions configured in your XF86COnfig which your monitor cannot handle |
| 12:31.40 | prodan | BANZAI |
| 12:31.51 | prodan | killed the bzflag cache |
| 12:32.18 | prodan | hmmm |
| 12:32.22 | prodan | worked once |
| 12:33.08 | prodan | nbuuuhuuu |
| 12:35.44 | prodan | BANZAI2 |
| 12:35.52 | prodan | ngot full screen working |
| 12:36.03 | prodan | had to kill .bzflag.cache |
| 12:36.15 | prodan | then sync worked |
| 12:36.41 | Chestal | ~/.bzflag-cache/ ? Should not be related at all |
| 12:36.49 | Chestal | have you tried to move the cofig file out of the way? |
| 12:37.50 | prodan | i killed config |
| 12:37.55 | prodan | .bzflag |
| 12:37.59 | prodan | ndidnt work |
| 12:38.04 | prodan | then dumped cache |
| 12:38.10 | prodan | now fullscreen is ok |
| 12:38.13 | Chestal | without a config it should test your machine's speed, i.e. try different settings |
| 12:38.56 | Chestal | after you ran bzfalg, you can look at your config file and see at whch resolutoin and vertical refresh rate it tried to run |
| 12:39.21 | Chestal | nevertheless -window -geometry widthxheight must work |
| 12:39.40 | prodan | brb |
| 12:39.51 | larsl | -window -geometry wxh never works for me with the CVS version. |
| 12:40.49 | Chestal | 1.9 doesn'T work for me at all |
| 12:41.45 | prodan | ok |
| 12:42.17 | prodan | fullscreen works ok now, res in .bzflag is 1280x1024 at 75 |
| 12:43.04 | prodan | now i do bzflag -window -geometry 800x600 |
| 12:44.03 | prodan | and i get a 100x100 something window |
| 12:44.26 | Chestal | hmm, strange. CHeck 'geometry' entry in config fole |
| 12:44.30 | Chestal | which window manager are you using? |
| 12:44.36 | prodan | kde |
| 12:45.00 | prodan | geometry in .bzflag is now at 800x600 |
| 12:45.37 | Chestal | hmm, maybe kde is trying to be clever and rsizes the bzflag window? you shoudl be able to resize it with the mosue anyway |
| 12:45.49 | Chestal | or there is an incompatibility between bzflag and kde window manager |
| 12:45.50 | prodan | nope cant do that |
| 12:45.58 | prodan | nno resize |
| 12:46.05 | prodan | nhmm |
| 12:46.17 | prodan | ni use a non current version of sid |
| 12:46.23 | prodan | maybe i should update |
| 12:46.32 | Chestal | with kde? have fun :-) |
| 12:46.56 | prodan | i just dont really enjoy downloading 100MB over dialup |
| 12:47.24 | prodan | ill wait for my dsl and then update my SID |
| 12:47.38 | prodan | in the meantime ill play fullscreen |
| 12:47.42 | prodan | nthanks a lot |
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| 12:53.23 | prodan | hey I like 1.7g2 |
| 12:53.37 | prodan | ;-) |
| 12:53.44 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 12:53.53 | prodan | praise on all developers |
| 12:54.35 | prodan | my shots travel far faster |
| 12:54.50 | prodan | (actually its just the bigger radar ;_) |
| 12:55.07 | [dmp] | Big Radar is nice :) |
| 12:55.23 | prodan | now i have one reason less for sucking |
| 12:56.09 | prodan | ok cu later folks |
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| 14:36.50 | [dmp] | heh. |
| 14:37.25 | [dmp] | At first my problem was to find a team, that wanted me. Now, after I wrote that post, I get more teamoffers than ever :-) |
| 14:48.19 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~orchid@ottawa-hs-206-191-39-23.d-ip.magma.ca) |
| 14:48.53 | learner | well, if it makes you feel any better.. I'm not offering =) |
| 14:49.16 | learner | hehe j/k :) |
| 14:49.19 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 14:49.45 | [dmp] | Thanks, I needed that. Now I'll go commit suicide, to respawn in a better world :) |
| 14:50.03 | learner | ha :) |
| 14:50.15 | learner | clever :) |
| 14:50.39 | [dmp] | That would give BZFlag some publicity :-) |
| 14:51.09 | [dmp] | Finding a tank might be hard. |
| 14:51.17 | [dmp] | Making the bullet rico, might be even harder :) |
| 14:53.47 | learner | there are a bunch of tanks up here |
| 14:55.12 | learner | but rico would be tough indeed (maybe big rubber mortars) |
| 14:55.25 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 14:56.12 | learner | heh |
| 15:02.18 | [dmp] | 13.500 land-units. |
| 15:02.20 | [dmp] | hmm |
| 15:04.40 | [dmp] | 268! :) |
| 15:10.45 | [dmp] | ah, what a releif.. they are getting 33 extra tanks :) |
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| 16:10.51 | learner | howdy prodan |
| 16:10.58 | prodan | howdy |
| 16:11.07 | prodan | n1.7g2 big radar is really nice |
| 16:11.29 | learner | indeed it is |
| 16:11.37 | learner | now we just need a full-screen radar :) |
| 16:11.44 | prodan | grin |
| 16:12.45 | [dmp] | i tried having a radar than was larger than normal view.. it wasnt as good as you might expect :-) |
| 16:13.56 | larsl | I used to have one overlayed over the 3D view, zoomed so that it covered 1/3 of the screen. But I was too lazy to make the patch work with 1.7g0 and later. |
| 16:14.27 | larsl | Not zoomed, I meant resized. |
| 16:15.06 | [dmp] | that what was i did (if i understand you correct) .. i had opasity set so i could see both, but i got somehow confused :-) |
| 16:15.49 | larsl | Second display? Then you'd still have to look away from the 3D view to see the radar. =) |
| 16:16.46 | learner | best of both worlds -- I'd have a nice big high-res radar when needed, or a nice big 3dview too :) |
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| 16:28.58 | Scipio | anyone around? |
| 16:29.20 | learner | no |
| 16:29.27 | Scipio | =) |
| 16:29.36 | learner | ;) |
| 16:29.41 | Scipio | Nidhoggr and I are having a slight problem with secretplace. that we can't figure out |
| 16:29.59 | Scipio | the server is not showing up in the find server list, yet we changed nothing on our end that we know of |
| 16:31.52 | Scipio | any ideas? |
| 16:32.17 | learner | could just be network routing changes |
| 16:32.30 | larsl | Tim said yesterday that the performance of the list server might be bad for the next few days. |
| 16:32.43 | Scipio | i can pull up the server list page on lynx from the machine that bzfs is running on |
| 16:33.06 | Scipio | we're just, not on it =) |
| 16:33.10 | learner | does the server list not come up at all? |
| 16:33.23 | *** part/#bzflag prodan (~prodan@dial-in105.rz.uni-mannheim.de) |
| 16:33.24 | Scipio | oh it comes up for me just fine |
| 16:33.56 | learner | and it's running on your machine? |
| 16:34.02 | Scipio | yup |
| 16:34.22 | learner | so then the problem is that it's not listed on any machine other than the machine it's running on |
| 16:34.29 | Nidhoggr | we are getting a bunch of complaints because we aren't on the server list. |
| 16:34.53 | learner | what's the address? |
| 16:35.00 | Scipio | oh well i haven't tried running a bzflag process from the same machine |
| 16:35.06 | dougAtWork | nidhoggr!! how art thou? |
| 16:35.06 | Scipio | bzflag.secretplace.us |
| 16:35.07 | *** join/#bzflag blast_ (~blast@usrpri-4-161.inwave.com) |
| 16:35.10 | Nidhoggr | learner, we can acess the list via lynx browser from the machine that the servre is running on. |
| 16:35.16 | Nidhoggr | hi doug. I'm pretty good. |
| 16:35.31 | Nidhoggr | but our server is not listed. |
| 16:35.38 | Scipio | doug of the spirals map doug? |
| 16:35.43 | dougAtWork | yep |
| 16:35.57 | Scipio | your map is very popular =) |
| 16:36.04 | dougAtWork | amazing |
| 16:36.08 | dougAtWork | ;) |
| 16:36.11 | Nidhoggr | ~secretplace |
| 16:36.22 | learner | what port? |
| 16:36.23 | dougAtWork | ~bzflist |
| 16:36.34 | dougAtWork | how wierd |
| 16:36.35 | Nidhoggr | 5155 |
| 16:36.38 | Scipio | the usuall |
| 16:36.45 | larsl | Are you sure that you are reporting to the right list server? |
| 16:36.51 | learner | hrm |
| 16:36.55 | Scipio | we're using the default config |
| 16:36.58 | dougAtWork | I had the same problem |
| 16:37.04 | Nidhoggr | we haven't changed anything. |
| 16:37.47 | Scipio | -publicaddr bzflag.secretplace.us:5155 |
| 16:38.02 | dougAtWork | ~literal secretplace |
| 16:38.03 | | secretplace is <reply> see bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5155 |
| 16:38.11 | learner | doug: are you buying my video card -- i was going to get that! |
| 16:38.15 | dougAtWork | lol |
| 16:38.20 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:38.30 | gonkulator | dougAtWork: at work where do you work? |
| 16:38.43 | larsl | Does it work if you start your own list server and report to that one instead? |
| 16:38.54 | Nidhoggr | we haven't tried. |
| 16:39.07 | learner | is your server config posted anywhere? |
| 16:39.09 | Scipio | nid may be |
| 16:39.20 | Nidhoggr | no, but I can stick it somewhere. |
| 16:39.46 | dougAtWork | er |
| 16:39.46 | dougAtWork | my proxy is at work |
| 16:39.46 | dougAtWork | :) |
| 16:39.53 | dougAtWork | but I work at a IT company :) |
| 16:39.58 | Scipio | heh. i wish i had a proxy to do my work |
| 16:40.14 | dougAtWork | lol |
| 16:40.20 | gonkulator | dougAtWork: gotcha |
| 16:41.08 | dougAtWork | yea |
| 16:41.09 | Nidhoggr | http://www.dragon.org/mandrake/spirals.txt |
| 16:41.31 | dougAtWork | my goodness :) |
| 16:41.36 | dougAtWork | what a config file |
| 16:41.48 | dougAtWork | we should make the bzfs server query a sql server first :) |
| 16:41.56 | dougAtWork | brb |
| 16:42.20 | Scipio | i think Nid made that cf file for when the -conf option was added |
| 16:42.23 | *** join/#bzflag doughecka (~~joe@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 16:42.40 | larsl | You could try -publiclist bzflist://208.186.182.172:5156 |
| 16:42.55 | doughecka | there we go |
| 16:42.57 | Nidhoggr | let me try it. |
| 16:43.14 | doughecka | killall works :) |
| 16:43.17 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@adsl-64-172-198-124.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 16:43.17 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 16:43.30 | gonkulator | well that was nice of ChanServ |
| 16:44.40 | gonkulator | gonk{work} has been booted by gonkulator ("don't be a poser") |
| 16:44.53 | doughecka | hehe |
| 16:44.54 | Nidhoggr | I wonder if someone put new filters on a router along the way or something. |
| 16:45.02 | Nidhoggr | hi patlabor221 |
| 16:45.03 | gonkulator | Nidhoggr: want an nmap? |
| 16:45.16 | Nidhoggr | I have nmap. :) |
| 16:45.32 | gonkulator | right, but from someone outside? |
| 16:45.37 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 16:45.39 | Nidhoggr | that might be good. |
| 16:45.58 | Nidhoggr | 69.28.129.162 |
| 16:46.25 | learner | nid: might also do some good to set the time-to-live |
| 16:46.25 | Scipio | it's there now |
| 16:46.28 | Nidhoggr | looks like hard coding the list works. |
| 16:46.30 | learner | ah, good |
| 16:46.40 | larsl | Odd. |
| 16:46.42 | Nidhoggr | what could have changed? |
| 16:46.47 | gonkulator | Nidhoggr: ok, what are you looking for? |
| 16:46.47 | Nidhoggr | that's just wierd. |
| 16:46.52 | gonkulator | or do you want me to /msg you with it? |
| 16:46.56 | doughecka | gah |
| 16:47.14 | larsl | I've had that problem too, I took that -publiclist option from the glasstowers config file. |
| 16:47.29 | Scipio | glasstowers? |
| 16:47.32 | learner | ah -- it's probably because time changed which box the name server resolves to and your dns hasn't updated yet |
| 16:47.38 | learner | s/time/tim/ |
| 16:47.45 | larsl | glasstowers.homelinux.net:515[5|6] |
| 16:48.23 | doughecka | gonkulator: at 3... 1...2....3! |
| 16:48.29 | doughecka | :) |
| 16:48.34 | gonkulator | doughecka: I already sent :/ |
| 16:48.39 | Scipio | heh. 208.186.182.172.in-addr.arpa does not resolve...... |
| 16:48.56 | doughecka | ping: cannot flood; minimal interval, allowed for user, is 200ms |
| 16:48.56 | gonkulator | hmm... |
| 16:48.57 | doughecka | huh |
| 16:49.08 | gonkulator | doughecka: try rootifying yourself |
| 16:49.13 | doughecka | sh |
| 16:49.15 | doughecka | ah |
| 16:49.55 | doughecka | wow, my SSH connection has lag... |
| 16:50.51 | doughecka | gonkulator's connection isnt too shabby, with my T1 ping flooding him.... |
| 16:51.00 | learner | you too? |
| 16:51.04 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:51.09 | Scipio | *bwahhaa* |
| 16:51.13 | gonkulator | doughecka: though I am just a lowly cable modem, I do have a work connection |
| 16:51.33 | gonkulator | doughecka: and I can dial in to that one to flood you back :) |
| 16:51.35 | Nidhoggr | the sad thing is that my internet bill would go up a lot if I started ping flooding. |
| 16:51.43 | doughecka | yea |
| 16:51.54 | doughecka | but my work as unlimited full t1 :) |
| 16:52.00 | Nidhoggr | the cool thing is that I start my new job on monday at the same place that I host my servers. |
| 16:52.06 | gonkulator | Nidhoggr: at least you have that option available though :) |
| 16:52.07 | doughecka | sweet!! |
| 16:52.14 | Nidhoggr | gonk, nod. |
| 16:52.31 | Patlabor221 | ahhh you guys got the company started up? |
| 16:52.58 | Nidhoggr | I'm getting 500 more a year than previous company, full benefits, and they pay for cell phone and broadband connection. |
| 16:53.09 | Patlabor221 | nice |
| 16:53.09 | doughecka | broadband!? |
| 16:53.11 | doughecka | wow |
| 16:53.15 | Nidhoggr | pat, we resell their stuff on the side, because I get a great deal. |
| 16:53.18 | Patlabor221 | do they let you leave your desk to pee? |
| 16:53.22 | Nidhoggr | so that company is up. |
| 16:53.27 | Nidhoggr | pat, yes. |
| 16:53.28 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:53.36 | Patlabor221 | ahh then all is good |
| 16:53.40 | Nidhoggr | and it's salary, so I don't have to use a stupid time clock. |
| 16:53.41 | Patlabor221 | no more leg chains like your other place |
| 16:53.47 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 16:54.01 | doughecka | bah, time clocks are cool |
| 16:54.26 | Scipio | the other place sucked hardcore |
| 16:54.33 | Nidhoggr | so, my new job title is "Engineer". |
| 16:54.36 | Nidhoggr | pretty funny. |
| 16:55.05 | Scipio | by job title at qwest is "technical support engineer" |
| 16:55.14 | Nidhoggr | and almost everyone that works in that office is an old friend. |
| 16:55.14 | Scipio | i apparently engineer technical support |
| 16:55.15 | doughecka | mine is "intern" |
| 16:55.21 | gonkulator | ROFL |
| 16:55.40 | gonkulator | mine is "sysadmin/programmer" cause I picked it for myself... |
| 16:55.48 | Nidhoggr | cool :) |
| 16:55.49 | gonkulator | the joys of being the lone geek in a web development lab |
| 16:55.49 | doughecka | lo |
| 16:55.50 | doughecka | lol |
| 16:56.02 | Nidhoggr | I was previously a Systems Administrator. |
| 16:56.05 | Patlabor221 | Mine is "Jeff: God of Biscusts" |
| 16:56.11 | Scipio | ah. i was sure that i was a "network administrator" but that doesn't seem to be an available title |
| 16:56.30 | Nidhoggr | ~spell biscusts |
| 16:56.32 | | possible spellings for biscusts: biscuits biscuit's disgusts miscasts bisects viscus's bassists biscuit bicyclists discus's discuses bisexuals |
| 16:56.32 | gonkulator | Scipio: its better than "shampoo girl" |
| 16:57.04 | Patlabor221 | well it depents, is the shampoo girl hot? |
| 16:57.32 | Scipio | she's too busy washing her hair to give anyone the time of day |
| 16:57.50 | Scipio | and those two guys that pop up and sing backup are just annoying |
| 16:59.43 | gonkulator | though, "shampoo girl backup singer" is a step up from tech support |
| 17:00.14 | gonkulator | depending on the variety of people that ask for support |
| 17:00.17 | Scipio | from what i've heard, "tech support" guys generally shouldn't be backup singers |
| 17:00.37 | gonkulator | http://ocelot.mscd.edu/~brandon/music/ |
| 17:00.47 | Patlabor221 | naw we just played subspace all day |
| 17:00.57 | Scipio | the only _tones_ that a tech support geek knows is are the handshakes tones of a 28.8 |
| 17:01.14 | gonkulator | scanline taught me how to whistle at a 56k |
| 17:01.18 | doughecka | hahaha |
| 17:01.34 | Scipio | case in point |
| 17:01.42 | Scipio | ;) |
| 17:03.02 | Scipio | i'm scarred for life |
| 17:03.11 | gonkulator | Quote added as #133808. |
| 17:03.12 | Scipio | re bandon/music/ |
| 17:03.25 | gonkulator | Scipio: you read the warning and listened anyway |
| 17:03.34 | Scipio | well you know |
| 17:03.38 | Scipio | glutton for punishment |
| 17:03.58 | gonkulator | here, there are two less bad ones that I sometimes listen to |
| 17:04.21 | gonkulator | save tonight and compile away are fairly tame |
| 17:04.41 | gonkulator | if you want to really punish someone, play barbie girl |
| 17:06.04 | Scipio | hmmmm |
| 17:06.19 | Scipio | i am sensing a lack of approval on the 133808 in order that others might view it |
| 17:06.35 | gonkulator | whyzat? |
| 17:06.44 | Scipio | Quote #133808 does not exist. |
| 17:06.48 | gonkulator | oh |
| 17:06.56 | gonkulator | they added it to the queue to get approved |
| 17:07.03 | gonkulator | it might be a few weeks |
| 17:07.06 | gonkulator | or a month |
| 17:07.08 | gonkulator | depending |
| 17:07.13 | Scipio | if you're lucky =) |
| 17:07.20 | gonkulator | hehehe |
| 17:11.05 | doughecka | bah |
| 17:11.07 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:12.42 | Scipio | ~secretplace |
| 17:14.06 | doughecka | wait... |
| 17:14.15 | gonkulator | doughecka: no |
| 17:15.14 | doughecka | ~secretplace |
| 17:15.27 | Nidhoggr | snort |
| 17:16.56 | Patlabor221 | isn't that a banable offense? |
| 17:16.59 | gonkulator | ~secretplace |
| 17:17.04 | gonkulator | what does that do anyway? |
| 17:17.10 | doughecka | -solo 10 |
| 17:17.21 | doughecka | yea, if the server is full |
| 17:18.54 | Nidhoggr | now my blootbot's bzflist command won't work properly.. really has to be something with network between list server... it nslookups to the same ip. |
| 17:19.11 | doughecka | ~bzflist |
| 17:20.36 | Nidhoggr | it works fine from the stats page at http://bzflag.dragon.org/stats.php |
| 17:23.28 | bryjen | ~hashmark |
| 17:23.42 | doughecka | my goodness |
| 17:24.29 | bryjen | two Administrator@ and one root@ |
| 17:24.41 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:26.05 | Scipio | so you guys turned on the email options to laugh at the lusers, yes? |
| 17:27.14 | bryjen | not I |
| 17:27.54 | bryjen | well, ok, I might snicker abit. But I wasn't the one that fixed that "feature" |
| 17:27.57 | doughecka | said the little red hen |
| 17:28.19 | Patlabor221 | the automatic e-mail generation code was in thre since like e2 |
| 17:28.22 | Patlabor221 | it was just busted |
| 17:28.27 | Patlabor221 | it was fixed for g2 |
| 17:28.47 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~orchid@ottawa-hs-206-191-39-23.d-ip.magma.ca) |
| 17:29.21 | bryjen | "automatic email generation" sounds viral, no? |
| 17:29.42 | Patlabor221 | huh? |
| 17:29.52 | Scipio | i think 'fixed' isn't quite the word i was looking for |
| 17:30.06 | Patlabor221 | the code wasn't being called |
| 17:30.11 | Scipio | 1/2 the time the score list covers the top half of the screen |
| 17:30.21 | Patlabor221 | what you are questoning is the inital feature |
| 17:30.31 | bryjen | generating email /messages/ would be something a virus would do.... |
| 17:30.42 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 17:30.51 | Patlabor221 | well the mail line is pointless anyway |
| 17:31.57 | bryjen | with enough players (like on hashmark earlier) the scoreboard gets down behind the radar/console too |
| 17:32.03 | Chestal | we could replace it with a team/clan line in 1.9 |
| 17:32.05 | Scipio | oh that's fun |
| 17:32.16 | Patlabor221 | that would be more usefull |
| 17:32.22 | Scipio | most people who use the email feature use it for team names |
| 17:32.51 | bryjen | clique |
| 17:33.10 | Chestal | back in the good, old days, user@hostname would actually work as an email address in most cases |
| 17:33.41 | Patlabor221 | but now with spamage, do you really want people having your mail? |
| 17:33.42 | bryjen | for *nix boxen |
| 17:34.12 | Chestal | Patlabor; I don't think there are address collecting bz bots :-) |
| 17:34.30 | Patlabor221 | there could be |
| 17:34.42 | Patlabor221 | but really, who wants to send a player an e-mail :) |
| 17:34.43 | Chestal | bryjen: there were only Unix boxen or the like in the old days. These are the times that ident checks by irc servers stem from, too |
| 17:35.08 | Patlabor221 | before BZ took it's first step into a larger world. |
| 17:35.11 | Chestal | nowadays, it is utterly useless |
| 17:36.46 | doughecka | now the IRC clients have ident built in |
| 17:40.07 | Scipio | doesn't that just defeat the point of ident? |
| 17:45.35 | *** join/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 18:04.58 | doughecka | yea |
| 18:54.01 | *** part/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@D40A3023.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 19:31.58 | *** join/#bzflag Legolas (~topgunp38@adsl-68-73-88-225.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 19:42.36 | larsl_out | ~glasstowers |
| 19:44.58 | learner | ~quol |
| 19:45.05 | learner | ~d |
| 19:45.14 | learner | jeesh |
| 19:47.02 | learner | what do you call one of the choices on a voting ballot? |
| 19:47.26 | learner | ~dict ballot |
| 19:47.30 | Chestal | I cannot imagine that voting is a good idea |
| 19:47.39 | Chestal | how do you make it usale UI-wise? |
| 19:47.46 | Chestal | and I fear it woudl be abused |
| 19:47.56 | Chestal | I mean vote to ban or kick |
| 19:48.07 | learner | well.. that is the idea |
| 19:48.16 | learner | a vote to temporarily ban |
| 19:48.26 | Chestal | too much hassle |
| 19:48.40 | learner | it works rather well for other games and is relatively simple to implement |
| 19:48.59 | Chestal | all these smal these trying to counter-measure cheatign etc. is just annoying IMHO |
| 19:49.10 | Chestal | we shoudl try to go all the way but I guess with the curent dev momentum we would never finish |
| 19:49.33 | learner | also has karma built into it on a social level |
| 19:49.42 | learner | but it also will couple rather nicely with a karma system |
| 19:49.46 | Chestal | there is no karma in bzflag now |
| 19:49.51 | Chestal | and I guess there will never be |
| 19:49.57 | learner | indeed there is not |
| 19:50.05 | Chestal | I am not to ohappy about 1.9 righ tnow |
| 19:50.15 | Chestal | it's partially my fault, haven't foudn the time to really participate lately |
| 19:50.23 | Chestal | it feels liek it is not going anywhere |
| 19:51.05 | learner | ah.. you've missed the glorious discussions we've been having over the past couple days |
| 19:51.14 | Chestal | heh, at least I can start it again, first tiem for a week or so |
| 19:51.32 | Chestal | possible, that's part of my frustration |
| 19:51.39 | Chestal | noone is in my timezone |
| 19:51.47 | learner | last talk, we're trying to get things in a beta-releaseable state |
| 19:51.58 | learner | weed out the bugs, etc |
| 19:52.36 | larsl | What, a release already? |
| 19:52.42 | doughecka | move to the us :) |
| 19:52.45 | Chestal | there are things which I don't understand about the curernt version |
| 19:52.51 | Chestal | the whoel bzdb is the one part |
| 19:53.12 | Chestal | from a user point, the only new thing are the flags? |
| 19:53.17 | Chestal | the rest is bug fixes and internal changes? |
| 19:53.19 | captain_proton | new flags, rabbit mode |
| 19:53.28 | Chestal | ok, rabbit mode |
| 19:53.35 | learner | and the mole thing |
| 19:53.42 | captain_proton | learner: thats a flag |
| 19:53.50 | Chestal | are all burrow bugs fixed? |
| 19:53.51 | learner | quite a funny flag :) |
| 19:54.08 | Chestal | thief was buggy, too, I thinkl |
| 19:54.14 | Chestal | but I didn't have many occassions to tets it |
| 19:54.20 | captain_proton | theif works for me |
| 19:54.34 | Chestal | I think it had a lifetiem mismatch |
| 19:54.49 | Chestal | somethign was strange about reload/lifetime etc. |
| 19:55.30 | Chestal | someoenj up for a test on ducati? |
| 19:55.52 | learner | sure, though my client has "issues" of its own |
| 19:56.49 | Chestal | is it not up to date? |
| 19:57.54 | learner | my keybindings aren't working right |
| 20:00.27 | Chestal | when a tank is burrowed, what should others see? |
| 20:00.46 | learner | i was burrowed |
| 20:00.57 | Chestal | yes, I know |
| 20:01.04 | learner | couldn't chat, though |
| 20:01.05 | Chestal | but I only saw your flag, nothign else. Is that expected? |
| 20:01.14 | learner | or re-enter after kill |
| 20:01.28 | Chestal | maybe erase your config file? |
| 20:01.37 | learner | that's how I entered the game |
| 20:01.47 | learner | then after one kill -- i cannot reenter |
| 20:02.21 | Chestal | ehm, should be the same keybinding |
| 20:03.54 | learner | i'm pretty sure it's a mac-specific problem |
| 20:04.00 | learner | haven't heard anyone else complain |
| 20:04.04 | learner | I |
| 20:04.55 | Chestal | hmm, maybe, I don't know anything about that part of the code |
| 20:05.43 | Chestal | oh well, my 5 minutes of dev enthusiasm are over, good night |
| 20:05.49 | doughecka | lol |
| 20:05.51 | doughecka | cya' |
| 20:05.55 | learner | heh, okay |
| 20:06.07 | learner | ches: |
| 20:06.23 | learner | the theif flag thing "hung around" after you finished shooting |
| 20:06.30 | Chestal | yes, that's what I meant |
| 20:06.41 | Chestal | I never really udnerstood the relationship of reload/lifetiem etc. |
| 20:06.57 | Chestal | but for the thief flag the code is different, these values are calced in a different way, obviously wrong |
| 20:08.02 | Chestal | hmm, my space key hangs |
| 20:08.09 | Chestal | maybe I shouldn't have hit my keyboard |
| 20:08.16 | doughecka | maybe. |
| 20:08.48 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): lifetime for thief shots is wrong |
| 20:08.49 | learner | could i get someone with 1.9 to connect to brlcad.org after me and try chatting? |
| 20:09.03 | larsl | Tell me when you're there. |
| 20:10.24 | larsl | Hm, "Unsupported response from server during flag negotiation". |
| 20:10.38 | captain_proton | larsl: sure you're up-to-date? |
| 20:11.00 | larsl | I wasn't. Trying again. |
| 20:11.23 | scanline | wow.. that must have been pretty old, from before MAC and I hacked up the flags |
| 20:11.26 | larsl | Communication error joining game [Wrong code 7075] |
| 20:11.35 | larsl | No, it was from yesterday. |
| 20:11.42 | captain_proton | hmm...that error again... |
| 20:11.42 | Chestal | I could join it 10 minutes ago |
| 20:11.43 | captain_proton | odd |
| 20:11.45 | scanline | that's odd... |
| 20:11.45 | larsl | And that last error message was with current CVS. |
| 20:11.49 | Chestal | or was it the other serevr, hmm |
| 20:12.01 | scanline | larsl: try another server? |
| 20:12.18 | Chestal | guess it was xmissin |
| 20:12.22 | Chestal | brlcad does not respond at all |
| 20:13.31 | Chestal | traceroute stops at 68.34.76.61 and I cannot open TCP connection to port 4242 |
| 20:13.50 | larsl | I can connect to xmission, I get random error messages from brlcad (Unsupported response, Communication error, Error downloading world...) |
| 20:13.57 | Chestal | hmm, actually after some non-ICMP-emitting hops, tracerotue finsihes at 68.33.166.139 |
| 20:14.15 | Chestal | ah, 4242 might be filtered |
| 20:14.20 | Chestal | is it a well-known P2P-port? |
| 20:14.34 | Chestal | university filters lots of ports for outgoign packets |
| 20:15.35 | learner | cap: I see the same fairly "random" communication errors, db errors, and 7075 errors when there is another player already attached |
| 20:15.59 | learner | if I repeatedly retry, i usually get in after aboout 20-30 tries.. :) |
| 20:16.13 | Chestal | can brcad move to another port? |
| 20:16.39 | learner | sure |
| 20:16.44 | learner | it's on 4242 right now |
| 20:17.09 | david_v | Chestal: 5156 and 59999 are down |
| 20:17.12 | learner | which port? |
| 20:17.26 | david_v | someone reported they just work again though |
| 20:17.35 | Chestal | 59999 is up again |
| 20:17.35 | david_v | i can't check it now |
| 20:17.38 | david_v | k |
| 20:17.55 | Chestal | learner: any port that is not used for popular P2P services |
| 20:18.23 | learner | 4242 is popular for p2p services? |
| 20:18.41 | Chestal | well, it's blocked here, so I figured that someone at least _thought_ that it's used for some P2P |
| 20:18.47 | learner | ah |
| 20:19.04 | learner | phooey :) |
| 20:19.42 | Chestal | thanks |
| 20:21.37 | learner | there we go 14242 |
| 20:22.02 | Chestal | hmm |
| 20:22.16 | Chestal | I can telent there now |
| 20:22.39 | Chestal | however, in bzflag, I still get 'Error downloading world database' |
| 20:23.00 | Chestal | now I get flag negotiation error |
| 20:23.14 | Chestal | now it's back to database error |
| 20:23.51 | doughecka | iptables is the routing part of linux? |
| 20:24.07 | captain_proton | iptables is packet filtering |
| 20:24.08 | learner | yes.. that's what I get when you're already logged in too ches |
| 20:24.20 | learner | if you retry lots of times, it should eventually let you in .. |
| 20:24.25 | Chestal | hmm |
| 20:24.25 | captain_proton | it can do NAT stuff, but its separate from iproute |
| 20:24.35 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:26.02 | Chestal | now bzflag just hangsd |
| 20:26.10 | learner | hmm.. I was able to say one word to larsl after he connected, then he went nr, and my keybindings stopped working |
| 20:27.14 | Chestal | when I just netcat to brlcad,I get strange results |
| 20:27.33 | doughecka | lol: http://thefruitcake.com/files/progaymer.jpg :) |
| 20:27.39 | Chestal | it sends me stuff |
| 20:27.56 | Chestal | ducati only sends BZFS109a |
| 20:27.59 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-227-160.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 20:29.02 | Chestal | uh, same when I connect to ducati with bzflag and drive around |
| 20:29.11 | Chestal | it sends stuff to the netcat, that shouldn't be the case |
| 20:29.24 | Chestal | somethign sems to be seriosuly messed up in the server |
| 20:29.26 | learner | that would explain the garbage issues |
| 20:29.42 | Chestal | shouldnt' the server wait for MsgEnter or whatever? |
| 20:29.53 | Chestal | or MsgGetWorldCHunk or what it is called |
| 20:30.03 | Chestal | player should still be in limbo and not get any other msgs |
| 20:31.41 | bryjen | brlcad seemed to work ok for lars and me. other than the three tries to get in the door... |
| 20:33.46 | bryjen | ~brlcad |
| 20:33.59 | learner | ~literal brlcad |
| 20:34.03 | learner | i don't think it's set |
| 20:34.15 | bryjen | probly doesnt do 1.9 either |
| 20:34.24 | learner | plus, I just changed the port so even if it was, it would be |
| 20:34.36 | learner | er, s/would/wouldn't/ |
| 20:35.13 | bryjen | nobodys on brlcad right now, and if i telnet brlcad.org 14242, it just sends me BZFS109a |
| 20:35.31 | learner | bryjen: i'll connect again -- try again |
| 20:36.19 | larsl | It sends "BZFS109a" followed by a lot of garbage when I telnet to it. |
| 20:36.33 | Chestal | the garbage are obvious player update packets r somethign similar |
| 20:36.35 | larsl | And it just keeps on sending garbage. |
| 20:36.45 | bryjen | I was in and driving around, and my telnet started getting data |
| 20:36.56 | larsl | Ah. |
| 20:37.26 | bryjen | heh. need a bzflag protcol monitor |
| 20:37.56 | larsl | Maybe I could do something like that with bzadmin. |
| 20:38.01 | bryjen | ~seen scanline |
| 20:38.01 | | scanline is currently on #picogui (2d 18h 45m 30s) #bzflag (2d 18h 45m 30s). Has said a total of 84 messages. Is idling for 26m |
| 20:38.12 | bryjen | or pybzflag |
| 20:40.01 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): do not fill in player struct when player joining fails early |
| 20:42.27 | Chestal | I think I found the culprit, nt sure when it was introduced, though |
| 20:44.16 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): do not relay bulk messages to players which are in limbo |
| 20:44.50 | Chestal | ok, goodnight then |
| 20:44.57 | larsl | Good night. |
| 20:45.51 | learner | g'night, chestal |
| 20:46.20 | learner | yay for chestal's fixes |
| 20:50.03 | bryjen | looks like it used to check for player[].multicastRelay, which has probly been removed now, right? |
| 20:52.00 | Chestal | maybe, haven't browsed the history, I still got no good tool to do this |
| 20:53.04 | bryjen | well, that check is no longer in relayPlayerPacket |
| 20:53.32 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): dump PlayerAccept state, they are going to limbo directly |
| 20:57.06 | *** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@D40A3023.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 20:57.14 | learner | moin dmp |
| 20:57.22 | [dmp] | evening learner |
| 20:57.41 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-132-8.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 20:58.26 | [dmp] | too much pizza too late dosnt motivate for working intensive :-) |
| 20:58.50 | [dmp] | Hi Carnage |
| 20:59.22 | learner | mmmm... pizza |
| 20:59.29 | bryjen | Ok. now the telnet connection just sits there with the version stamp thingy even if I connect with bzflag and drive around. |
| 20:59.38 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): formatting |
| 20:59.41 | bryjen | Got in on the first try too! Cool. |
| 21:00.10 | bryjen | mke2fs bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx |
| 21:00.29 | Chestal | not quite :-) |
| 21:00.35 | Chestal | well, now this time it is really good night, cu |
| 21:01.13 | bryjen | now you must SLEEP! |
| 21:02.36 | learner | you rock Chestal |
| 21:03.45 | *** join/#bzflag ppl (ppl@ip198164210221.nbtel.net) |
| 21:03.48 | ppl | heya |
| 21:04.01 | Carnage | hi |
| 21:04.16 | ppl | Is there some admin available for xmission server? |
| 21:04.37 | ppl | someone is cheating and it's quite annoying. |
| 21:06.33 | Carnage | i dont think so |
| 21:09.20 | scanline | bryjen: hmm? |
| 21:11.12 | [dmp] | *grr* |
| 21:11.53 | learner | down boy :) |
| 21:12.13 | [dmp] | People shouldnt ask me questtion, and leave 10 seconds later :-| |
| 21:12.33 | [dmp] | hmm |
| 21:12.51 | [dmp] | 488 playing-hours is registered by the ladder, this week |
| 21:13.18 | [dmp] | from 11 servers. |
| 21:14.40 | david_v | Chestal: HoW-Fortix 4-2 |
| 21:14.55 | [dmp] | who'd played? |
| 21:14.56 | david_v | 3-2 actually |
| 21:15.05 | learner | chestal went to bed -- leave him a message |
| 21:15.11 | [dmp] | no, ill do it. |
| 21:15.16 | david_v | yep. 3-2 |
| 21:15.20 | learner | ah, that's right |
| 21:15.24 | david_v | thanks... or not... i suck |
| 21:15.32 | david_v | worst is i can't stop saying it |
| 21:16.15 | [dmp] | 3-2 right? |
| 21:16.35 | david_v | i'm getting rather unsure actually... i was just getting mad on myself |
| 21:16.43 | david_v | brb |
| 21:17.07 | david_v | 4-2 |
| 21:17.08 | david_v | oh well |
| 21:17.54 | [dmp] | diff: 21poinyd |
| 21:17.56 | [dmp] | ts |
| 21:19.00 | david_v | urg |
| 21:19.21 | david_v | i wonder how it'll go when i start my studies |
| 21:19.31 | david_v | will probably get less practice and... well... |
| 21:19.34 | david_v | won't get much better |
| 21:22.34 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~orchid@ottawa-hs-206-191-39-23.d-ip.magma.ca) |
| 21:22.43 | david_v | hi |
| 21:23.08 | bzgirl | hi |
| 21:25.20 | Chestal | hi |
| 21:31.25 | learner | hi |
| 21:32.20 | *** part/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-227-160.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 21:33.26 | *** join/#bzflag HEINOLA (HEINOLA@63.98.3.194) |
| 21:33.36 | HEINOLA | hello all |
| 21:34.05 | ppl | hi |
| 21:34.07 | david_v | hey |
| 21:34.53 | scanline | ~nickometer HEINOLA |
| 21:34.53 | | 'HEINOLA' is 99.830% lame, scanline |
| 21:35.02 | HEINOLA | is there a channle where i can get some help with BIOS ? |
| 21:35.15 | scanline | not this one |
| 21:35.19 | david_v | ~nickometer david_v |
| 21:35.19 | | 'david_v' is 14.000% lame, david_v |
| 21:35.26 | david_v | nah |
| 21:35.29 | david_v | ~nickometer david_v |
| 21:35.30 | | 'david_v' is 14.000% lame, david_v |
| 21:35.36 | david_v | thought it was random :) |
| 21:35.44 | HEINOLA | hey its a town near me with a pop of 2 lol |
| 21:35.50 | david_v | hehehe |
| 21:36.23 | learner | ~nickometer learner |
| 21:36.23 | | 'learner' is 0.000% lame, learner |
| 21:36.29 | learner | :) |
| 21:36.42 | david_v | probably because you wrote the criterias :) |
| 21:36.58 | scanline | david_v: no, it's tim riker's bot |
| 21:37.11 | scanline | it's actually a bit complex |
| 21:37.37 | david_v | what has it got against my nick? the underscore? :) |
| 21:37.40 | david_v | ~nickometer davidv |
| 21:37.40 | | 'davidv' is 0.000% lame, david_v |
| 21:37.43 | david_v | aha |
| 21:37.54 | learner | ~nickometer blablabla |
| 21:37.54 | | 'blablabla' is 0.000% lame, learner |
| 21:37.59 | learner | perhaps |
| 21:38.05 | scanline | ~nickometer ALLCAPS |
| 21:38.05 | | 'ALLCAPS' is 99.830% lame, scanline |
| 21:38.15 | david_v | hmm |
| 21:38.19 | david_v | doesn't seem rather complex |
| 21:38.20 | learner | ~nickometer _____c_____ |
| 21:38.20 | | '_____c_____' is 99.9818% lame, learner |
| 21:38.23 | scanline | it's a logarithmic scale |
| 21:38.29 | david_v | oh |
| 21:38.35 | scanline | david_v: there are a lot of things it checks for |
| 21:38.39 | ppl | ~nickometer ppl |
| 21:38.39 | | 'ppl' is 0.000% lame, ppl |
| 21:38.46 | ppl | *phew* ! |
| 21:38.51 | david_v | ~nickometer ChanServ |
| 21:38.51 | | 'ChanServ' is 0.000% lame, david_v |
| 21:38.55 | david_v | hm |
| 21:39.00 | david_v | thought it'd react on caps :) |
| 21:39.27 | scanline | ~nickometer [boing] |
| 21:39.27 | | '[boing]' is 0.000% lame, scanline |
| 21:39.30 | [dmp] | ~nickometer [dmp] |
| 21:39.30 | | '[dmp]' is 0.000% lame, [dmp] |
| 21:39.33 | scanline | ~nickometer [boing |
| 21:39.33 | | '[boing' is 16.000% lame, scanline |
| 21:39.45 | ppl | ~nickometer ibot |
| 21:39.45 | | 'ibot' is 0.000% lame, ppl |
| 21:39.52 | scanline | see.. it's fine with matched parenthesis, but extra punctuational garbage is bad |
| 21:40.00 | [dmp] | ~nickometer BZFlag |
| 21:40.00 | | 'BZFlag' is 27.000% lame, [dmp] |
| 21:40.01 | david_v | interesting. didn't seem that complicated at first when it gave some supposed fixed values |
| 21:40.03 | [dmp] | heh |
| 21:40.06 | ppl | Ah. It doesn't even say something funny when you feed him with his own nickname. |
| 21:40.44 | david_v | ~nickometer yetanotherweirdnicktocheck |
| 21:40.44 | | 'yetanotherweirdnicktocheck' is 0.000% lame, david_v |
| 21:40.49 | david_v | yea right :) |
| 21:41.48 | HEINOLA | any channels out there for BIOS or related problems? |
| 21:42.54 | HEINOLA | my backup 120Mhz sys is killing me lol |
| 21:44.24 | david_v | i am not sure what channel that would be |
| 21:44.36 | david_v | i only use a few anyway |
| 21:45.19 | HEINOLA | i use mosly the linux channels and this one |
| 21:45.20 | david_v | i got to go too, so i'm afraid i can't try to help now either. maybe someone here can |
| 21:45.30 | HEINOLA | cant remeber when i used a win channel last |
| 21:45.33 | david_v | heh |
| 21:45.49 | learner | g'night |
| 21:45.53 | HEINOLA | gn cya |
| 21:48.56 | *** part/#bzflag ppl (ppl@ip198164210221.nbtel.net) |
| 21:55.20 | *** join/#bzflag BaDiN (Paramount@81.193.6.203) |
| 21:55.22 | BaDiN | olá! |
| 21:55.28 | BaDiN | any teams to play against BiPs? |
| 21:55.30 | HEINOLA | hello |
| 21:58.58 | BaDiN | please? :) |
| 22:00.19 | [dmp] | :-) |
| 22:00.38 | BaDiN | ;) |
| 22:00.39 | [dmp] | "We just suck more, than you'll do" |
| 22:00.46 | BaDiN | lol |
| 22:03.02 | HEINOLA | if i could only pull some of the Virtual flight group to bzflag |
| 22:05.10 | *** join/#bzflag Skipp (~Skipp@12-206-137-38.client.attbi.com) |
| 22:05.12 | [dmp] | No fun there either |
| 22:05.17 | Skipp | hello |
| 22:05.29 | [dmp] | hi |
| 22:06.16 | Skipp | dmp was it u who has the cheat t-shirt? |
| 22:06.41 | [dmp] | No |
| 22:07.00 | Skipp | spiff must have said some one else then, sry |
| 22:07.09 | [dmp] | I dont know anything about a cheat tshirt. |
| 22:07.15 | [dmp] | nevermind :-) |
| 22:07.18 | BaDiN | WE WANT A MATCH |
| 22:08.22 | [dmp] | Its time for bracket-man to save somebody else, somewhere else.. at some time.. |
| 22:08.34 | *** part/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@D40A3023.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 22:11.51 | HEINOLA | it is to addictive |
| 22:11.52 | BaDiN | chestal? |
| 22:11.56 | BaDiN | the moles vs bips? |
| 22:12.01 | HEINOLA | we need a government study on it |
| 22:17.15 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-217-133-255-182.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 22:18.19 | HEINOLA | any here done bios flashing on a sys with only boot block left lol |
| 22:19.18 | BaDiN | not me |
| 22:40.48 | *** part/#bzflag Skipp (~Skipp@12-206-137-38.client.attbi.com) |
| 22:55.07 | *** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@D40A3023.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 23:16.38 | *** part/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@D40A3023.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 23:34.19 | learner | d |
| 23:34.21 | learner | ~d |
| 23:35.16 | learner | sometimes I just can't fscking stand living in suburbia |
| 23:46.52 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-217-133-255-182.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
