irclog2html for #bzflag on 20030813

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`00:22.02`	`Carnage`	`any admins for ducati on?`
`00:26.11`	`*** join/#bzflag niksie (~nkist@3eea1720.cable.wanadoo.nl)`
`00:26.13`	`niksie`	`hello`
`00:26.41`	`niksie`	`are there any plans as to when the next bzflag will be released?`
`00:26.53`	`captain_proton`	`when its done`
`00:27.04`	`niksie`	`days/weeks/months/years?`
`00:27.17`	`captain_proton`	`yes`
`00:27.21`	`niksie`	`hehehe`
`00:27.45`	`niksie`	`seriously are there plans for freezes or whatever?`
`00:28.11`	`niksie`	`oh, and another question, what can a user do when a cheater walks into his/her favourite bzflag server?`
`00:36.55`	`[dmp]`	`Find a admin :-)`
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`00:41.52`	`niksie`	`heh`
`00:42.12`	`niksie`	`seriously, how about a vote of all people on a server to kick of a cheater?`
`00:45.57`	`learnerAtWork`	`that's a thought on the plate`
`00:47.15`	`niksie`	`ok`
`00:47.25`	`niksie`	`hmm, a bunch of flags have been rikered`
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`01:10.49`	`niksie`	`uhh, what vorbis lib is used by bzflag?`
`01:11.43`	`learnerAtWork`	`libvorbis`
`01:11.51`	`learnerAtWork`	`?`
`01:12.20`	`learnerAtWork`	`http://www.vorbis.com/download.psp`
`01:12.31`	`learnerAtWork`	`SDK if you're compiling`
`01:12.56`	`niksie`	`ok`
`01:13.34`	`niksie`	`ah ok, I thought there where several`
`01:13.39`	`learnerAtWork`	`might get away with just libogg, but I'd put both just for good measure`
`01:14.58`	`learnerAtWork`	`linux is the only one where they're separated out like that on the downloads`
`01:15.13`	`niksie`	`I'm on macosx`
`01:15.27`	`learnerAtWork`	`ah, then there's just an sdk download`
`01:15.39`	`niksie`	`I've been trying with fink..`
`01:15.51`	`learnerAtWork`	`shame on you then :)`
`01:15.52`	`learnerAtWork`	`http://www.vorbis.com/download_mac.psp`
`01:16.02`	`niksie`	`heh`
`01:16.40`	`captain_proton`	`need both libogg and libvorbis`
`01:16.44`	`niksie`	`bleh, its 3 AM here`
`01:16.45`	`niksie`	`ok`
`01:17.33`	`niksie`	`sleep well everyone`
`01:17.36`	`niksie`	`will figure it out tomorrow`
`01:17.45`	`learnerAtWork`	`g'night`
`01:17.47`	`niksie`	`thanks for the help :)`
`01:21.36`	`JBDiGriz`	`~d`
`01:22.10`	`JBDiGriz`	`Does craxy have a life outside of ducati?`
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`01:53.26`	`learnerAtWork`	`pwd`
`01:53.29`	`learnerAtWork`	`eek`
`01:53.34`	`captain_proton`	`CWD!`
`01:53.54`	`scanline`	`mkwd!`
`01:54.02`	`learnerAtWork`	`damn.. why won't irc tell me where I't at? sheesh`
`01:54.50`	`scanline`	`/home/micah`
`01:54.55`	`scanline`	`hmm.. it can for me`
`01:54.57`	`learnerAtWork`	`ah..`
`01:54.58`	`scanline`	`/exec -o pwd`
`01:55.03`	`learnerAtWork`	`rm -rf .`
`01:55.16`	`learnerAtWork`	`/Users/sean`
`01:55.21`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh, cool`
`01:56.05`	`learnerAtWork`	`that's a scary command.. easy to flood with, I imagine`
`01:56.19`	`scanline`	`for example:`
`01:56.27`	`scanline`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`01:56.28`	`scanline`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:57.37`	`captain_proton`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:57.37`	`captain_proton`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:57.37`	`captain_proton`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:57.37`	`captain_proton`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:57.37`	`captain_proton`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:57.38`	`captain_proton`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:57.56`	`learnerAtWork`	`Ooo.. pretty italics`
`01:58.09`	`gonkulator`	`eep`
`01:58.16`	`gonkulator`	`thats kinda cool`
`01:58.26`	`scanline`	`yay`
`01:58.50`	`scanline`	`that was before I got banned from #flood :)`
`01:59.06`	`scanline`	`captain_proton: it doesn't have an OCR`
`01:59.09`	`learnerAtWork`	`scanline: heh`
`01:59.12`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: 'figlet' is more appropriate for irc`
`02:00.42`	`learnerAtWork`	`well.. apparently I'm only having trouble with the '95 course notes cd's -- damn them`
`02:06.08`	`learnerAtWork`	`break time`
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`02:19.44`	`Chikorita`	`hehwoh`
`02:19.44`	`Carnage`	`hi chik`
`02:19.51`	`Chikorita`	`hehwoh carny`
`02:19.54`	`Chikorita`	`heehe`
`02:19.58`	`Chikorita`	`snicka`
`02:20.01`	`Carnage`	`he he`
`02:20.08`	`Chikorita`	`sup sup sup`
`02:20.45`	`Chikorita`	`ah i cant stand playin FFA anymore ...`
`02:21.11`	`Chikorita`	`it seems all so pointless`
`02:21.15`	`captain_proton`	`you just haven't played the right kind of FFA`
`02:21.24`	`Chikorita`	`buh i admit i like baggys new map ...lookz kewl`
`02:21.38`	`Chikorita`	`wut otha kind of FFA iz there?`
`02:22.54`	`Chikorita`	`u mean da i shoot u u shoot mee kinda FFA? cuz dats wut itz like ... all da same`
`02:23.14`	`Chikorita`	`u hunt mee i hunt u`
`02:23.17`	`captain_proton`	`ever played the decks?`
`02:23.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`grin`
`02:23.26`	`Carnage`	`worse map ever`
`02:23.31`	`Carnage`	`j/k`
`02:23.32`	`Chikorita`	`ya a lil`
`02:23.38`	`Chikorita`	`1 shot`
`02:23.44`	`Chikorita`	`itz ok`
`02:23.50`	`Chikorita`	`no flags yes?`
`02:23.53`	`captain_proton`	`right`
`02:24.01`	`Chikorita`	`ya been there dun dat`
`02:24.03`	`Chikorita`	`heehe`
`02:24.09`	`captain_proton`	`bah`
`02:24.10`	`Chikorita`	`hi learner!`
`02:24.18`	`learnerAtWork`	`wanna do that now :D`
`02:24.20`	`Chikorita`	`woah`
`02:24.28`	`Chikorita`	`3 years!`
`02:24.30`	`Chikorita`	`O.O`
`02:24.50`	`captain_proton`	`of course, at the time, decks was the favorite map around`
`02:25.00`	`captain_proton`	`and there were many many players who were absolute killers there`
`02:25.05`	`captain_proton`	`so it was a bit of a different challenge`
`02:25.20`	`Chikorita`	`ooH i alwayz tho decks was a new map ,,,not an old 1 ...gee`
`02:25.39`	`Chikorita`	`yea i guess dat iz a diff kinda FFA`
`02:26.02`	`Chikorita`	`ducati 5155 iz sumtimes fun 2`
`02:26.23`	`Chikorita`	`buh den it getz old fast like afta 20 minutes`
`02:27.07`	`learnerAtWork`	`I have 20 minutes`
`02:27.12`	`Chikorita`	`learner can u play now?`
`02:27.16`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)`
`02:27.26`	`learnerAtWork`	`for a couple minutes :)`
`02:27.46`	`captain_proton`	`shall i start up a decks server?`
`02:28.05`	`Chikorita`	`hmm`
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`02:28.32`	`Carnage`	`wanna see 1 of my maps he he`
`02:28.43`	`Carnage`	`no wait u cant`
`02:28.49`	`captain_proton`	`gimma a poke and i'll start it up`
`02:28.58`	`Chikorita`	`i think i seen ur map b4 carny`
`02:28.58`	`SGI`	`~seen Quol`
`02:28.58`		`quol <~Quol@modemcable052.11-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1d 22h 42m 40s ago, saying: 'g'night all'.`
`02:29.05`	`Chikorita`	`itz pretty good 2`
`02:29.20`	`learnerAtWork`	`wanna play decks a little chika?`
`02:29.41`	`Carnage`	`not that 1, i must finished it and sent it to the shellshock map contest`
`02:29.44`	`Chikorita`	`i'll watch u guyz play ...imm lil tired :P`
`02:29.52`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)`
`02:29.54`	`learnerAtWork`	`er`
`02:29.56`	`learnerAtWork`	`:(`
`02:29.57`	`Chikorita`	`been drivin round all day :P`
`02:30.05`	`Carnage`	`learner want another butt whipping tonite?`
`02:30.16`	`Chikorita`	`:x`
`02:30.27`	`Chikorita`	`wut wif u an butts an whips carny?`
`02:30.31`	`Chikorita`	`LoL j/k`
`02:30.34`	`Chikorita`	`;)`
`02:30.43`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: deckz0r?`
`02:30.54`	`learnerAtWork`	`butt whipping? I think not -- you were good -- not that good :)`
`02:30.58`	`Carnage`	`he wont chick`
`02:31.11`	`Chikorita`	`carny tryin 2 turn mee on LoLLL`
`02:31.18`	`Carnage`	`he he`
`02:31.23`	`Chikorita`	`heehe`
`02:31.37`	`Carnage`	`loser gets a spanking from chik hmmm maybe i should lose :)`
`02:31.46`	`Chikorita`	`haha`
`02:31.49`	`learnerAtWork`	`hey, I lost yesterday first :)`
`02:32.08`	`Chikorita`	`u guyz ..lol`
`02:32.14`	`learnerAtWork`	`j/k`
`02:32.26`	`Carnage`	`shhh learner`
`02:32.59`	`learnerAtWork`	`I'll play if we can get like 4 players going`
`02:33.08`	`Carnage`	`ill come if chik does`
`02:33.08`	`captain_proton`	`decks server would be public`
`02:33.11`	`Carnage`	`ill come if chik does`
`02:33.14`	`Chikorita`	`k`
`02:33.18`	`Carnage`	`thats 3`
`02:33.18`	`captain_proton`	`i'm sure with 3 people additional would join`
`02:33.21`	`Chikorita`	`dat makes 3`
`02:33.31`	`Chikorita`	`sgi?`
`02:33.39`	`captain_proton`	`depends on the map ;)`
`02:33.40`	`Carnage`	`we only need 2 to tango`
`02:33.50`	`learnerAtWork`	`cap: decks is a maybe??`
`02:33.59`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)`
`02:34.10`	`Carnage`	`learner ever hear 2 company and 3 is a crowd wink wink`
`02:34.32`	`learnerAtWork`	`yes, that show was aweful`
`02:35.06`	`Carnage`	`nno it means me and chick r 2 ur a crowd`
`02:35.09`	`Chikorita`	`heh okies so i wil go an let u 2 dirty dance ;)`
`02:35.14`	`Chikorita`	`LOL`
`02:35.15`	`Carnage`	`lol`
`02:35.27`	`Carnage`	`then u can join`
`02:35.36`	`Chikorita`	`ok dat iz ew`
`02:35.42`	`captain_proton`	`asgard.bakadigital.com is runnin' the server of DOOM`
`02:35.54`	`Chikorita`	`ooH`
`02:36.10`	`Chikorita`	`server of DOOM! ahh`
`02:36.11`	`captain_proton`	`learnerAtWork: see ya there?`
`02:36.16`	`Chikorita`	`kewl name :)`
`02:36.32`	`scanline`	`captain_proton: you should let diablo-d3 get his ass kicked on decks :)`
`02:36.32`	`captain_proton`	`and of course Carnage, Chikorita and anybody else is welcome to come get far into the negative`
`02:36.38`	`captain_proton`	`scanline: already did that`
`02:36.40`	`Chikorita`	`like Devils Monastery ...hehee evil >:)`
`02:36.44`	`scanline`	`captain_proton: ah`
`02:36.56`	`Chikorita`	`hahha`
`02:38.18`	`learnerAtWork`	`jump in chika :)`
`02:38.25`	`Chikorita`	`k`
`02:59.13`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Refactor the Tweak.Control subclasses a bit, to make writing Tweak.Color easier`
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`03:36.16`	`MrApathyCream`	`oh look, a gazillion pybzflag checkins, what a strange occurance`
`03:39.49`	`MrApathyCream`	`ibot, seen anyone?`
`03:39.51`		`i haven't seen 'anyone', MrApathyCream`
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`03:45.55`	`scanline`	`MrApathyCream: lots of gnome checkins too`
`03:46.12`	`learnerAtWork`	`ah.. shame the decks still aren't popular -- but then that does make them special`
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`03:46.30`	`learnerAtWork`	`er "more popular"`
`03:46.39`	`learnerAtWork`	`hi, chika -- long time no see`
`03:46.41`	`Chikorita`	`hehee dat was fun`
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`03:46.52`	`Chikorita`	`heh yup 1 long minute`
`03:46.57`	`Chikorita`	`wb carny`
`03:47.15`	`Carnage`	`hi lovly lady`
`03:48.20`	`Chikorita`	`i tink itz kinda funny peepz name demself Monkey`
`03:48.46`	`Chikorita`	`seeing cartoon monkeys crack mee up`
`03:48.50`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`03:49.04`	`JBDiGriz`	`Seeing cartoon Pokemon crack me up! ;-P`
`03:49.20`	`Chikorita`	`shut up jaybee LoL`
`03:49.37`	`JBDiGriz`	`Look out, here comes Ash with your Pokeball!`
`03:49.46`	`Chikorita`	`hahaa`
`03:50.14`	`Chikorita`	`dere iz a pokemon monkey hiz name iz Mankey`
`03:50.19`	`Carnage`	`chick u like cats?`
`03:50.24`	`Chikorita`	`ya`
`03:50.34`	`JBDiGriz`	`Mankey has a vicious kick.`
`03:50.47`	`Chikorita`	`an a mean punch`
`03:50.49`	`Carnage`	`i got some pics of them before i kicked them`
`03:50.49`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`03:50.56`	`Chikorita`	`carny ...`
`03:51.00`	`Chikorita`	`u betta not`
`03:51.00`	`Carnage`	`wanna see?`
`03:51.04`	`Chikorita`	`>:(`
`03:51.05`	`Chikorita`	`grr`
`03:51.11`	`Chikorita`	`imma kick u LoL`
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`03:51.21`	`Chikorita`	`hi DTR`
`03:51.26`	`DTRemenak`	`hello`
`03:51.37`	`Carnage`	`this 1 i got over 10 feet http://pictures.funnyjunk.com/pages/kitty2.jpg`
`03:51.44`	`Chikorita`	`ooH brb mah cell fone iz beepin`
`03:52.33`	`Chikorita`	`aww dat iz so cute pic`
`03:52.43`	`Carnage`	`it was before i kicked it :)`
`03:53.15`	`Chikorita`	`noooooooo`
`03:53.21`	`JBDiGriz`	`~seen quol`
`03:53.21`		`quol <~Quol@modemcable052.11-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2d 7m 3s ago, saying: 'g'night all'.`
`03:53.24`	`Carnage`	`i soriee here just for u chik http://www.funnyjunk.com/pages/ice_cream.htm`
`03:54.25`	`CIA`	`03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/geometry (TankSceneNode.cxx): simple local caching of bzdb vars`
`03:56.21`	`learnerAtWork`	`eh?? could it be?!?!?`
`03:56.37`	`learnerAtWork`	`scanline comming non-python sourcecode?`
`03:56.54`	`scanline`	`hm?`
`03:56.55`	`learnerAtWork`	`er, commiting`
`03:58.11`	`JBDiGriz`	`Where's scanline?`
`03:58.12`	`Chikorita`	`~seen Chikorita`
`03:58.12`		`chikorita is currently on #bzflag (11m 47s). Has said a total of 22 messages. Is idling for 0s`
`03:58.36`	`JBDiGriz`	`Keep a close eye on yourself Chica! :-)`
`03:58.42`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`03:59.03`	`learnerAtWork`	`I recant`
`03:59.09`	`JBDiGriz`	`Hi Joe, how you doing?`
`03:59.22`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
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`03:59.24`	`JBDiGriz`	`~fishslap learnerAtWork`
`03:59.25`		`ACTION slaps learnerAtWork up side the head with a wet fish.`
`03:59.33`	`learnerAtWork`	`ah, yes -- feels good`
`03:59.36`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`04:00.07`	`MrApathyCream`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:00.08`	`MrApathyCream`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:00.08`	`MrApathyCream`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:00.08`	`MrApathyCream`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:00.08`	`learnerAtWork`	`all this talk of fish and water has made me hungry`
`04:00.26`	`JBDiGriz`	`Sushi!`
`04:00.32`	`Chikorita`	`ibot: Jaybee is a poopsmith`
`04:00.33`		`...but jaybee is already something else...`
`04:00.34`	`learnerAtWork`	`Mmm.. sushi`
`04:00.39`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`04:00.43`	`learnerAtWork`	`oh really?`
`04:00.48`	`JBDiGriz`	`ibot: Chikorita`
`04:00.48`		`methinks chikorita is a pain in the rear end!`
`04:00.50`	`Chikorita`	`o i luv sushi`
`04:00.53`	`learnerAtWork`	`ibot: literal jaybee`
`04:00.53`		`jaybee is <reply> "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with catsup!"`
`04:00.55`	`Chikorita`	`ahh!`
`04:01.00`	`learnerAtWork`	`heheheh`
`04:01.10`	`gonkulator`	`Chikorita: ask captain_proton about my first experience with sushi`
`04:01.22`	`Chikorita`	`ooH`
`04:01.37`	`Chikorita`	`~Chikorita`
`04:01.37`		`rumour has it, chikorita is a pain in the rear end!`
`04:01.43`	`Chikorita`	`:(`
`04:01.44`	`learnerAtWork`	`grr`
`04:01.44`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`04:02.05`	`Chikorita`	`tell uz gonk`
`04:03.05`	`Chikorita`	`mah first time i had sushi i tho da green stuff wasabhi was like guacammole so i ate a bunch on a piece of sushi :P`
`04:03.06`	`MrApathyCream`	`scanline: care todo me a favor and tell me what the heck StateDatabase.cxx 212-222 is supposed to be doing?`
`04:03.29`	`Chikorita`	`i almost die`
`04:03.37`	`Chikorita`	`8-x`
`04:03.40`	`Chikorita`	`heehe`
`04:03.52`	`JBDiGriz`	`We had a sushi chef with a senses of humor. After the meal we ordered green tea ice cream. We noticed it wasn't melting!`
`04:04.11`	`Chikorita`	`huh?`
`04:04.17`	`Chikorita`	`wut was it?`
`04:04.22`	`learnerAtWork`	`heheh`
`04:04.23`	`Chikorita`	`ooH`
`04:04.26`	`Chikorita`	`wasabi`
`04:04.26`	`JBDiGriz`	`He had formed a ball of wasabi and served it to us.`
`04:04.26`	`learnerAtWork`	`that's good jb`
`04:04.27`	`Chikorita`	`LoL`
`04:04.43`	`learnerAtWork`	`I had a friend visit from south america`
`04:04.50`	`learnerAtWork`	`took him out for sushi`
`04:04.57`	`learnerAtWork`	`told him it was guacamole`
`04:05.02`	`scanline`	`MrApathyCream: I'll take a look`
`04:05.08`	`Chikorita`	`lol learner`
`04:05.16`	`learnerAtWork`	`shoved the entire ball into his mouth`
`04:05.23`	`Chikorita`	`lol haha`
`04:05.27`	`Chikorita`	`owch`
`04:05.31`	`JBDiGriz`	`Ouch!`
`04:05.32`	`Chikorita`	`:P~~~~~`
`04:05.38`	`MrApathyCream`	`ah, never mind`
`04:05.43`	`learnerAtWork`	`I bust out laughing as he darted around looking for a bathroom/trashcan/anything`
`04:05.44`	`MrApathyCream`	`it's to prevent recursive definitions`
`04:05.55`	`MrApathyCream`	`thanks anyway scans`
`04:05.56`	`*** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~orchid@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca)`
`04:06.02`	`scanline`	`MrApathyCream: oh, hah.. that's captain_proton's ugly hack to construct a NaN manually`
`04:06.02`	`Carnage`	`hi bzgirl`
`04:06.09`	`bzgirl`	`hi`
`04:06.10`	`learnerAtWork`	`the bathroom was _right_ behind him, but he couldn't read a lick of english`
`04:06.13`	`Chikorita`	`hi bzg`
`04:06.24`	`JBDiGriz`	`bzgirl, have you been adopting new aliases again?`
`04:06.40`	`bzgirl`	`not new ones :)`
`04:06.46`	`MrApathyCream`	`scanline, yes i see to prevent recursive definitions, wonder why he used a vector and not a set`
`04:06.56`	`JBDiGriz`	`Would they be new as far as I would know?`
`04:06.58`	`bzgirl`	`i have 415 regular ones though`
`04:07.13`	`Chikorita`	`415!`
`04:07.20`	`Chikorita`	`o iz dat all`
`04:07.20`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh`
`04:07.22`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`04:07.31`	`bzgirl`	`JBDiGriz: not sure, which one are you wondering about?`
`04:07.41`	`JBDiGriz`	`Do you have any tight fitting leather outfits that you wear while playing bz?`
`04:07.45`	`Chikorita`	`<<<Chikorita`
`04:07.53`	`learnerAtWork`	`JBDiGriz: LOL!`
`04:08.09`	`Chikorita`	`jaybee ur crazee lol`
`04:08.24`	`JBDiGriz`	`Someone showed up at Quol ducati, who was a very good shot and went by the call sign catwoman`
`04:08.32`	`bzgirl`	`ahh`
`04:08.39`	`bzgirl`	`thats my freind i bet`
`04:09.10`	`bzgirl`	`ever see Mystery Girl?`
`04:09.24`	`Chikorita`	`o dats her?`
`04:09.25`	`bzgirl`	`probably that was her`
`04:09.27`	`JBDiGriz`	`yes, I often call her Miss Teri.`
`04:09.40`	`bzgirl`	`she and I had a team once`
`04:09.46`	`bzgirl`	`Tank Tops :)`
`04:09.48`	`JBDiGriz`	`catwoman was quieter than mystery girl usually is.`
`04:09.50`	`learnerAtWork`	`HA!`
`04:09.56`	`MrApathyCream`	`:)`
`04:10.11`	`JBDiGriz`	`I'm going to use that imagery against learnerAtWork sometime!`
`04:10.29`	`Chikorita`	`to distract him?`
`04:10.31`	`Chikorita`	`LoL`
`04:11.16`	`Chikorita`	`~Chikorita`
`04:11.16`		`hmm... chikorita is your friend`
`04:11.18`	`JBDiGriz`	`I told you I can be very observant. ;{)`
`04:11.26`	`Chikorita`	`aww thnx u changed it :)`
`04:13.38`	`Chikorita`	`yay`
`04:13.50`	`gonkulator`	`so I have a friend who is a waitress at a sushi bar`
`04:13.54`	`Chikorita`	`k`
`04:13.55`	`gonkulator`	`she told me she would get me free sushi there`
`04:14.00`	`Chikorita`	`o`
`04:14.05`	`gonkulator`	`so I invite some friends and we go get sushi`
`04:14.13`	`Chikorita`	`ya`
`04:14.18`	`JBDiGriz`	`Make sure you tell learnerAtWork what she was wearing.`
`04:14.34`	`learnerAtWork`	`JBDiGriz: shush!`
`04:14.35`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe`
`04:14.35`	`Chikorita`	`lol shhhh storytime..`
`04:14.40`	`bzgirl`	`:)`
`04:14.44`	`gonkulator`	`learnerAtWork: she was wearing a t-shirt and skirt`
`04:14.48`	`Carnage`	`im waiting`
`04:14.52`	`gonkulator`	`so anyway`
`04:15.01`	`Chikorita`	`eel ... :P`
`04:15.09`	`gonkulator`	`the eel upsets my stomach`
`04:15.14`	`Chikorita`	`o i c`
`04:15.15`	`gonkulator`	`and I feel kinda woozie`
`04:15.20`	`Chikorita`	`y?`
`04:15.31`	`gonkulator`	`it slipped the whole way down`
`04:15.31`	`Chikorita`	`eel taste ok buh iz ugly lookin`
`04:15.49`	`gonkulator`	`well, it was the feeling in the back of my mouth as it went down that got me`
`04:15.51`	`gonkulator`	`so anyway`
`04:15.54`	`gonkulator`	`after that was the crab legs`
`04:15.58`	`Chikorita`	`uh huh`
`04:16.03`	`gonkulator`	`and I wanted to get the meal over real fast, cause I was getting sick`
`04:16.10`	`gonkulator`	`but the crab legs went in the wrong way`
`04:16.11`	`Chikorita`	`lol ah`
`04:16.12`	`gonkulator`	`and kinda gagged me`
`04:16.17`	`Chikorita`	`oh`
`04:16.18`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh`
`04:16.32`	`scanline`	`but nothing can beat those "magic mushrooms"`
`04:16.38`	`CIA`	`03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/common (StateDatabase.cxx): If a var starts out undefined, don't assume it always will be that way`
`04:16.39`	`gonkulator`	`and everyone there thought I was laughing`
`04:16.41`	`scanline`	`they tasted like barbeque deviled eggs`
`04:16.44`	`Chikorita`	`ur not suppose ta eat da claw`
`04:16.52`	`gonkulator`	`Chikorita: I didn't know that :)`
`04:16.55`	`Chikorita`	`lol gonk`
`04:17.06`	`JBDiGriz`	`most of the time eel is cooked, but not always.`
`04:17.20`	`Chikorita`	`so go on gonk ...wut happen next?`
`04:17.23`	`gonkulator`	`this time it wasn't cooked`
`04:17.27`	`gonkulator`	`oh, I nearly puked`
`04:17.29`	`learnerAtWork`	`Mmmmm`
`04:17.35`	`Chikorita`	`ugh`
`04:17.37`	`gonkulator`	`all the sushi in my mouth went into a napkin`
`04:17.47`	`learnerAtWork`	`ah.. cheated :)`
`04:17.49`	`gonkulator`	`and some of the sushi that was in my stomach went into the same napkin`
`04:17.55`	`Chikorita`	`so did it look like dis >>>>> @#%%%@$^@^@&^%#`
`04:17.58`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`04:17.58`	`learnerAtWork`	`ow`
`04:18.09`	`JBDiGriz`	`Chikorita: watch your language!`
`04:18.18`	`bzgirl`	`you got pics to go with this gonk?`
`04:18.20`	`learnerAtWork`	`Did they still think you were laughing? :)`
`04:18.23`	`gonkulator`	`bzgirl: sorry, no`
`04:18.29`	`bzgirl`	`good`
`04:18.30`	`JBDiGriz`	`bzgirl: Ugh!`
`04:18.36`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`04:18.37`	`learnerAtWork`	`bzgirl: sick :)`
`04:18.57`	`JBDiGriz`	`learnerAtWork: Psst, bzgirl in a tank top!`
`04:19.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`wha? who? ahem&`
`04:19.28`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`04:19.34`	`gonkulator`	`learnerAtWork: if you saw the friend of mine, I don't think you would drool`
`04:19.39`	`gonkulator`	`though Chikorita might :)`
`04:19.47`	`learnerAtWork`	`if I saw that napkin, I'm sure I wouldn't`
`04:19.51`	`Chikorita`	`da sushi wif da cooked pink salmon iz really good`
`04:20.13`	`JBDiGriz`	`Chikorita: That's lox and bagels, you were in the wrong place.`
`04:20.15`	`Chikorita`	`send pics :)`
`04:20.17`	`gonkulator`	`learnerAtWork: I warned her about the napkin, but I don't think anyone heard me`
`04:20.26`	`CIA`	`03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (2 files in 2 dirs): remove client loading of bzdb vars, rely on server`
`04:20.33`	`Chikorita`	`lol shup JB`
`04:21.20`	`bzgirl`	`so gonk, the pretty waitress had to deal with your napkin?`
`04:21.23`	`Chikorita`	`iz he werking on pybz too?`
`04:21.41`	`learnerAtWork`	`nope, chika`
`04:21.57`	`Chikorita`	`dat was gonk version of a tip`
`04:22.02`	`Chikorita`	`LoL`
`04:22.03`	`gonkulator`	`bzgirl: she didn't, no`
`04:22.06`	`MrApathyCream`	`learnerAtWork, i'll turn out the lights before i leave`
`04:22.11`	`MrApathyCream`	`--don't worry`
`04:22.12`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh`
`04:22.27`	`gonkulator`	`bzgirl: it was a "sealed" situation`
`04:22.49`	`TimRiker`	`~xmission`
`04:22.51`	`learnerAtWork`	`yea riight`
`04:22.57`	`JBDiGriz`	`Fish heads fish head roly poly fish heads`
`04:23.38`	`bzgirl`	`this skinnny tank subtle cheat mentioned in wiki, is it too much of a strain on the server to check for this?`
`04:24.39`	`MrApathyCream`	`bzgirl, each client completely determines if it gets hit`
`04:24.43`	`bzgirl`	`ive seen a couple lately, at least I belive them to be skinny`
`04:24.53`	`MrApathyCream`	`if a client says he's tiny, no one knows`
`04:24.56`	`bzgirl`	`ahh, very easy cheat then to make`
`04:25.00`	`MrApathyCream`	`yup`
`04:25.09`	`Chikorita`	`hmm`
`04:25.36`	`bzgirl`	`its an ideal cheat for ctf unfourtnately`
`04:26.14`	`JBDiGriz`	`It's possible to add code to a server or another client which checks for the skinny tank syndrome, but it's still not possible to be completely certain.`
`04:26.32`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Working color selector, broken opacity control`
`04:26.53`	`learnerAtWork`	`you could only statistically gather evidence, and it's not solid evidence at that`
`04:26.53`	`Chikorita`	`u could tel sum1 to hold stil while u shoot at dem ;)`
`04:26.53`	`JBDiGriz`	`learnerAtWork: scanline is working on python still!`
`04:27.20`	`learnerAtWork`	`JBDiGriz: yes.. (?)`
`04:27.59`	`JBDiGriz`	`Even if they are holding still, you're checking against the game state in your own client/server, not the game state that in his client.`
`04:29.11`	`*** join/#bzflag mmu_man (~revol@ALyon-209-1-8-89.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr)`
`04:29.18`	`MrApathyCream`	`JBDiGriz, unfortunately the server doesn't really know where you are`
`04:29.23`	`MrApathyCream`	`it only has historic information`
`04:29.27`	`learnerAtWork`	`JBDiGriz: she was asking if mac was working on python still, afaik .. :)`
`04:29.30`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (Tweak.py): Working opacity control`
`04:29.36`	`learnerAtWork`	`er, s/still//`
`04:29.55`	`MrApathyCream`	`I still am not working on python`
`04:30.03`	`learnerAtWork`	`exactly :)`
`04:30.04`	`captain_proton`	`MrApathyCream: and -why not- ?`
`04:30.09`	`captain_proton`	`python is where all the action is`
`04:30.15`	`MrApathyCream`	`i see that`
`04:30.25`	`JBDiGriz`	`MrApathyCream: Exactly, I was looking at the code to determine if there was some way to ferret out skinny tanks.`
`04:30.31`	`MrApathyCream`	`python doesn't need any help... micah can do anything by himself`
`04:30.55`	`MrApathyCream`	`JBDiGriz, you can make a guess, but really i don't think you can make a certain accusation`
`04:30.56`	`learnerAtWork`	`hey, there's a quorum of developers here, I have a question about the libplatform windowing`
`04:31.36`	`JBDiGriz`	`I was trying to come up with a way of making a statistically accurate guess. I haven't succeeded so far.`
`04:31.41`	`learnerAtWork`	`is it conceiveable to open up a window, display a menu, and then destroy that window only to open up another window?`
`04:33.01`	`learnerAtWork`	`the latter is potentially full screen (with a menu) or not`
`04:33.12`	`learnerAtWork`	`maybe different mode too`
`04:34.21`	`learnerAtWork`	`is the api flexible enough for this?`
`04:34.59`	`MrApathyCream`	`shrug`
`04:35.21`	`learnerAtWork`	`hrm.. okay`
`04:35.28`	`learnerAtWork`	`I'll have to rtfc :)`
`04:37.49`	`Chikorita`	`rub the furry cat?`
`04:38.04`	`learnerAtWork`	`hehe`
`04:38.08`	`Chikorita`	`heehe`
`04:38.11`	`learnerAtWork`	`read the funny sourcecode`
`04:38.19`	`Chikorita`	`ahh`
`04:38.22`	`Chikorita`	`k`
`04:38.30`	`JBDiGriz`	`I don't think you meant sourcecode.`
`04:38.44`	`learnerAtWork`	`oh? :)`
`04:38.52`	`JBDiGriz`	`It doesn't begin with 'c'`
`04:39.08`	`learnerAtWork`	`funny code :)`
`04:39.17`	`JBDiGriz`	`c++ ?`
`04:39.54`	`learnerAtWork`	`that works too (though I did mean code :P )`
`04:40.28`	`JBDiGriz`	`Yeah, I believe that as much as I believe every other word in your translation! ;-)`
`04:41.22`	`CIA`	`03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): up the timelimit on enterserver now that setvars are being sent down`
`04:41.41`	`learnerAtWork`	`=)`
`04:41.59`	`captain_proton`	`UP IS NOT A VERB!`
`04:42.04`	`JBDiGriz`	`cool commit comment: up ... down`
`04:42.58`	`JBDiGriz`	`MAC, I think you were just captain_protoned!`
`04:43.35`	`learnerAtWork`	`he's a poet`
`04:43.42`	`learnerAtWork`	`just doesn't no it`
`04:43.45`	`learnerAtWork`	`know`
`04:44.40`	`Chikorita`	`i can do a lil programmin too..`
`04:44.52`	`Chikorita`	`100 goto line 200.`
`04:44.57`	`Chikorita`	`200 goto line 100`
`04:45.01`	`Chikorita`	`300 end`
`04:45.02`	`Chikorita`	`:)`
`04:45.05`	`Chikorita`	`heehe`
`04:45.06`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh`
`04:45.23`	`*** join/#bzflag iluxa (~iluxa@12-234-207-60.client.attbi.com)`
`04:45.30`	`learnerAtWork`	`I haven't seen gw/qbasic in years..`
`04:45.43`	`iluxa`	`ibot: ~Chickorita`
`04:45.43`		`bugger all, i dunno, iluxa`
`04:45.48`	`iluxa`	`ibot: Chickorita?`
`04:45.49`		`well, chickorita is LOLOLOLOLOL azz! ROFLASTC kewl! azzzzzzzzz AOL RULEZ!`
`04:46.06`	`iluxa`	`lol`
`04:46.20`	`*** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@adsl-64-173-104-118.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)`
`04:46.20`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ`
`04:46.24`	`iluxa`	`ibot factoid wars`
`04:46.24`		`iluxa: no idea`
`04:46.28`	`Chikorita`	`i dunt like dat`
`04:46.36`	`Chikorita`	`who keeps changin it?`
`04:46.37`	`iluxa`	`I didn't set it :)`
`04:46.41`	`learnerAtWork`	`it's a patlabor!`
`04:47.08`	`Chikorita`	`dat looks like sussudio's doin... :(`
`04:47.08`	`JBDiGriz`	`it must be with that typing. It's also not the earlier ibot command.`
`04:47.09`	`iluxa`	`Patlabor221?`
`04:47.57`	`bzgirl`	`<ibot> chikorita is a very friendly bzflag player who is gonna whip your tanky tanky`
`04:48.01`	`Chikorita`	`~Chikorita`
`04:48.01`		`well, chikorita is a very friendly bzflag player who is gonna whip your tanky tanky`
`04:48.01`	`Patlabor221`	`how goes it?`
`04:48.11`	`Chikorita`	`heehe thnx bzg`
`04:48.17`	`Patlabor221`	`~who is your daddy?`
`04:48.17`		`YOU are, Mr. Sexy Pants`
`04:48.37`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`04:48.38`	`learnerAtWork`	`it goes`
`04:48.39`	`iluxa`	`lol`
`04:48.49`	`Patlabor221`	`well yes the pants are new, thanks ibot`
`04:49.08`	`bzgirl`	`Chikorita: i didnt set that, i aske for literal, im not sure howcome iluxa got his response`
`04:49.25`	`JBDiGriz`	`~bzgirl`
`04:49.26`		`well, bzgirl is the coolest around`
`04:49.31`	`JBDiGriz`	`~bzgril`
`04:49.35`	`gonkulator`	`~lart me`
`04:49.50`	`iluxa`	`Auch`
`04:50.08`	`Patlabor221`	`bzgril? are you hungry?`
`04:50.45`	`bzgirl`	`umm`
`04:50.48`	`JBDiGriz`	`I was pointing out that the spelling was different between iluxa's request and bzgirl's request`
`04:50.53`	`bzgirl`	`no :)`
`04:50.59`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh`
`04:51.13`	`Patlabor221`	`I see`
`04:51.17`	`JBDiGriz`	`learnerAtWork: psst, tank top!`
`04:51.19`	`bzgirl`	`~fonz`
`04:51.23`		`methinks fonz is almost as cool as bzgirl`
`04:51.23`	`iluxa`	`ibot Chikorita?`
`04:51.24`		`from memory, chikorita is a very friendly bzflag player who is gonna get whipped like cream`
`04:53.25`	`learnerAtWork`	`lol, bzgirl`
`04:54.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`so you do have at least a leather jacket`
`04:54.29`	`bzgirl`	`yeah`
`04:54.34`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)`
`04:55.21`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`04:55.39`	`Chikorita`	`whipp cream huh ...hmm`
`04:56.34`	`Chikorita`	`no snack 4 u ibot`
`04:56.37`	`Chikorita`	`>:\`
`04:56.50`	`Chikorita`	`ok maybee jus 1`
`04:56.52`	`learnerAtWork`	`ibot: eat whipped cream`
`04:56.57`		`ACTION eats whipped cream and falls over dead`
`04:56.58`	`Chikorita`	`ibot: botsnack`
`04:56.58`		`Chikorita: aw, gee`
`04:57.08`	`Chikorita`	`lol learner`
`04:57.25`	`Patlabor221`	`~botsmack`
`04:57.25`		`sure, wanna snort some with me?`
`04:57.32`	`Chikorita`	`lol pat`
`04:57.33`	`bzgirl`	`so the server dosent see the clients as fixed sized objects? i cant understand this, i could make my tank massive, like half the size of the feild and the server would have no clue?`
`04:57.51`	`learnerAtWork`	`yep`
`04:58.00`	`Patlabor221`	`the server dosn't really track game state`
`04:58.04`	`Patlabor221`	`each client does`
`04:59.00`	`bzgirl`	`whats the benifit of this design? a small cpu/mem use by bzfs?`
`04:59.11`	`Patlabor221`	`its easy`
`04:59.15`	`Patlabor221`	`less data`
`04:59.29`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (Tweak.py): Non-modal color selector, yay`
`04:59.38`	`Patlabor221`	`all that is sent is the tank pos and it's state, each client knows how big a tank is in each state`
`04:59.52`	`Patlabor221`	`the server should keep a gamestate for anit-cheat tho`
`04:59.54`	`bzgirl`	`so bandwith then?`
`05:00.01`	`JBDiGriz`	`Decisions closer to the client look better to the player, and don't change do to network problems and lag.`
`05:00.12`	`JBDiGriz`	`s/do/due/p`
`05:00.13`	`Patlabor221`	`well there are tricks to get bandwith down and still have more options`
`05:00.20`	`bzgirl`	`i mean today, pc's are pretty able to handle heavier jobs right?`
`05:00.34`	`Patlabor221`	`jbd, but still you can dupe the logic on the server side too, and predict on the clients`
`05:00.38`	`Patlabor221`	`yes`
`05:00.50`	`Patlabor221`	`most modern games uses a combo of server state and client state`
`05:01.00`	`learnerAtWork`	`they are until they're asked to run the aggressive filter :P`
`05:01.39`	`JBDiGriz`	`And a collision or a slow packet would cause a hit when a player actually dodged. It's not necessarily better either way, just another tradeoff`
`05:01.50`	`MrApathyCream`	`bzgirl, it's not the computers that are the limiter, but the networks`
`05:01.55`	`Patlabor221`	`that is why the server state is authoritive`
`05:02.22`	`Patlabor221`	`the first rule of modern multiplayer games is "never trust a client"`
`05:02.38`	`MrApathyCream`	`for instance when you drive around inyour world it's nice and smooth. But others may see you jumpy`
`05:02.41`	`MrApathyCream`	`that's because you update your screen a whole lot more than you send network messages`
`05:02.41`	`JBDiGriz`	`Having the server state as authoritative makes it more consistent and less prone to cheating.`
`05:03.02`	`MrApathyCream`	`JBDiGriz, yes, but much more difficult todo fast`
`05:03.07`	`Patlabor221`	`yes jbd, but you can use an adaptive client state to keep it fast`
`05:03.16`	`JBDiGriz`	`Consistent from a global viewpoint, but not necessarily from an individual viewpoint.`
`05:03.19`	`Patlabor221`	`mac, there are ways to minimise the disconinuity`
`05:03.21`	`*** part/#bzflag iluxa (~iluxa@12-234-207-60.client.attbi.com)`
`05:03.30`	`MrApathyCream`	`yes, i just said difficult, not impossible`
`05:03.39`	`Patlabor221`	`it's actualy not that hard`
`05:03.45`	`MrApathyCream`	`bzflag works pretty well on 56k modems`
`05:03.46`	`Patlabor221`	`you just have to have a good timing system`
`05:03.54`	`Patlabor221`	`so does quake`
`05:04.02`	`Patlabor221`	`and it's all server side`
`05:04.10`	`MrApathyCream`	`patches welcome`
`05:04.21`	`learnerAtWork`	`knee patches, right?`
`05:04.26`	`Patlabor221`	`I have been researching this`
`05:04.33`	`learnerAtWork`	`knee patches?`
`05:04.37`	`Chikorita`	`maybee u could do periodic server checks , an not all da time so it stays fast?`
`05:04.41`	`JBDiGriz`	`Last I checked, Patlabor221 was working on some patches for that. I wholeheartedly support him!`
`05:04.44`	`Carnage`	`i gotta a cheater i hate them`
`05:04.55`	`Patlabor221`	`it's larger then a patch`
`05:05.05`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm making a proof of conecpt application`
`05:05.16`	`learnerAtWork`	`like a whole pantleg?`
`05:05.24`	`Patlabor221`	`like entire pants`
`05:05.26`	`JBDiGriz`	`Like a full suit`
`05:05.35`	`learnerAtWork`	`horay for full suits`
`05:05.38`	`Patlabor221`	`it's using relyable UDP only`
`05:05.41`	`learnerAtWork`	`wait`
`05:05.41`	`JBDiGriz`	`Possibly even a suit of armor! ;-)`
`05:06.08`	`JBDiGriz`	`Quick slip the tie on him while he hasn't caught on!`
`05:06.09`	`learnerAtWork`	`ah, body armor`
`05:06.19`	`JBDiGriz`	`Now tighten it!`
`05:06.34`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`05:06.35`	`Patlabor221`	`basicly the idea is if your not cheating you should not see many disconinuitys`
`05:06.47`	`Patlabor221`	`if you are, you will seee many, but the people who arn't will see consisant stuff`
`05:07.29`	`Chikorita`	`so if u r cheating ...da game wil look very jumpy 2 u?`
`05:07.34`	`Patlabor221`	`it increases the amount of data sent with each message a smige (the time), but if it's working ok it could mean less data`
`05:07.43`	`Patlabor221`	`if your cheating the server will know and just kick your ass`
`05:07.44`	`Patlabor221`	`but yes`
`05:07.50`	`Chikorita`	`kewl`
`05:08.45`	`MrApathyCream`	`arg`
`05:08.47`	`MrApathyCream`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:08.47`	`MrApathyCream`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:08.52`	`Chikorita`	`i suspect sum1 has dis skinny tank cheat buh i cant say .`
`05:08.54`	`MrApathyCream`	`:\bz\bz_cvs\bzflag\src\bzfs\bzfs.cxx(3121) : error C2065: 'lines' : undeclared identifier`
`05:09.02`	`bzgirl`	`could another client check for cheaters?`
`05:09.02`	`MrApathyCream`	`now what could possibly be wrong with that`
`05:09.03`	`Chikorita`	`:x`
`05:09.14`	`Patlabor221`	`you could check your gamesate`
`05:09.25`	`Patlabor221`	`and make sure everyone was folowing the rules`
`05:09.53`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't think anyone checks the size state on a tank and compares it to if they have the tiny flag`
`05:10.13`	`JBDiGriz`	`but your game state is not necessarily exactly what everyone elses gamestate is at a certain moment in time.`
`05:10.15`	`bzgirl`	`Chikorita: yeah, me too, its frustrating, but you cant go around acusing`
`05:10.42`	`MrApathyCream`	`Patlabor221, no ones knows what size you think you are, unless you broadcasta grab flag that effects size`
`05:10.43`	`JBDiGriz`	`You could detect possible anomalies, and possibly get an indication`
`05:10.44`	`Patlabor221`	`the server really should do those checks`
`05:11.16`	`Chikorita`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:11.22`	`Patlabor221`	`mac yeah but we don't check shot types and stuff against what flags you have, so you could send a got tiny and a got GM`
`05:11.31`	`learnerAtWork`	`the hard long time consuming answer is, of course, the better of choices`
`05:11.47`	`MrApathyCream`	`Patlabor221, actually i think we do check shot types against flags, now`
`05:11.48`	`JBDiGriz`	`The server should know if you have a flag which affects your size, and other clients have to know so they can display your tank correctly.`
`05:11.56`	`MrApathyCream`	`(one of the few things...)`
`05:12.07`	`MrApathyCream`	`JBDiGriz, yes`
`05:12.22`	`Patlabor221`	`mac, not all I tink`
`05:12.30`	`MrApathyCream`	`prhaps`
`05:12.54`	`learnerAtWork`	`track the entire game state with a good network timing system, and statistically observe/compute anamolies`
`05:12.54`	`MrApathyCream`	`JBDiGriz, the problem still is that server only has deadreckoning location of your tank which may be off by t+delta`
`05:13.20`	`Patlabor221`	`learner you ensure that all input is within the game logic paramaters`
`05:13.25`	`MrApathyCream`	`granted delta should be relatively small`
`05:13.43`	`Patlabor221`	`mac that's the same info all the other clients have too`
`05:13.45`	`Chikorita`	`cant da hit size of a tank correspond 2 da actual visual size of da tank u c? so den u would kno if it looked a lil smalla dan da rest?`
`05:13.57`	`MrApathyCream`	`yup`
`05:14.05`	`JBDiGriz`	`That's the same problem with checking the hits in another client, although it's probably delta + delta2 depending on the network connection.`
`05:14.07`	`Patlabor221`	`chia, you would hate that, you would miss when it would look like a hit`
`05:14.08`	`MrApathyCream`	`Chikorita, in bz no`
`05:14.30`	`Chikorita`	`pat called mee a chia pet..`
`05:14.31`	`learnerAtWork`	`patlabor: and that, though i think most subtle cheats are within the logic parameters (unless you mean something else)`
`05:14.33`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`05:14.47`	`Chikorita`	`o i c`
`05:14.48`	`learnerAtWork`	`ibot: Chikorita is a chia pet`
`05:14.49`		`...but chikorita is already something else...`
`05:14.53`	`Patlabor221`	`learner, there is never any way to get rid of ALL cheats`
`05:14.55`	`learnerAtWork`	`ibot: noChikorita is a chia pet`
`05:14.56`		`learnerAtWork: okay`
`05:14.58`	`JBDiGriz`	`Patlabor221: We already see shots pass through tanks due to network conditions.`
`05:15.01`	`Patlabor221`	`you can get rid of the vulgar ones`
`05:15.07`	`JBDiGriz`	`~nochikorita`
`05:15.08`		`methinks nochikorita is a chia pet`
`05:15.15`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh`
`05:15.26`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah I concur jbd, the server is the closest one to the clients, let it do the checks`
`05:15.27`	`Chikorita`	`lol o u`
`05:15.34`	`learnerAtWork`	`patlabor: quite true`
`05:15.47`	`Patlabor221`	`the server can also estimate the lag to a client, and try to comp for it.`
`05:16.02`	`MrApathyCream`	`the nice thing about bz is that you know when you've been hit`
`05:16.03`	`learnerAtWork`	`and statistically you can get rid of many of the subtle ones`
`05:16.21`	`JBDiGriz`	`That's the interesting problem, although you can't compensate for sudden changes.`
`05:16.21`	`learnerAtWork`	`lemme guess, mac -- tank goes "boom"?`
`05:16.25`	`MrApathyCream`	`it would stink if the server told you "you're dead" and your experience is "no the shot was way over there"`
`05:16.51`	`learnerAtWork`	`i wouldn't think you'd want to get the server involved in gameplay`
`05:16.53`	`Patlabor221`	`mac yes it would suck but it also sucks on the guy who sees that he shot you.`
`05:16.56`	`JBDiGriz`	`MrApathyCream: I've seen that happen as well. I shot someone, when the shot appeared to miss far on the right.`
`05:16.57`	`Patlabor221`	`and you didn't die`
`05:17.00`	`Patlabor221`	`who is "right" ?`
`05:17.12`	`JBDiGriz`	`The other player also complained about it.`
`05:17.13`	`MrApathyCream`	`yup`
`05:17.16`	`Patlabor221`	`this is why I want to POC it`
`05:17.30`	`learnerAtWork`	`it'd watch and statistically over time notice that "hey -- i 20/30 times you didn't die when I think you should have"`
`05:17.59`	`learnerAtWork`	`server admin could set a reliability weight for an auto-kick even`
`05:18.21`	`learnerAtWork`	`if you are 75% sketchy, server gives you the boot`
`05:18.24`	`learnerAtWork`	`etc`
`05:18.26`	`captain_proton`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:18.26`	`captain_proton`	`\| \| \| (_)_ _ __ _ \| \/ \| / \ / ___\| \|`
`05:18.26`	`captain_proton`	\| \|_\| \| \| \| \| \|/ _` \| \| \|\/\| \| / _ \\| \| \| \|
`05:18.26`	`captain_proton`	`\| _ \| \| \|_\| \| (_\| \| \| \| \| \|/ ___ \ \|___\|_\|`
`05:18.26`	`captain_proton`	`\|_\| \|_\|_\|\__, \|\__,_\| \|_\| \|_/_/ \_\____(_)`
`05:18.27`	`captain_proton`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:18.27`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah have like an internal karma`
`05:18.29`	`captain_proton`	`ahem`
`05:18.31`	`captain_proton`	`whoops`
`05:18.32`	`Chikorita`	`wow`
`05:18.35`	`Patlabor221`	`shit`
`05:18.44`	`learnerAtWork`	`captain_proton: sheesh`
`05:18.51`	`learnerAtWork`	`is that a pounce or what? :)`
`05:18.55`	`scanline`	`:)`
`05:18.56`	`captain_proton`	`rogue figlet :)`
`05:19.22`	`MrApathyCream`	`nice one`
`05:19.26`	`JBDiGriz`	`Let's not turn this into a duel of ascii massive messages!`
`05:19.38`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`05:19.54`	`Chikorita`	`i can make a ascii cat`
`05:19.59`	`JBDiGriz`	`~chikorita`
`05:20.04`		`[chikorita] a very friendly bzflag player who is gonna tank your whippy whippy`
`05:20.11`	`Chikorita`	`yay :)`
`05:20.17`	`Chikorita`	`wait`
`05:20.18`	`captain_proton`	`hrm`
`05:20.23`	`Chikorita`	`itz backwards`
`05:20.24`	`captain_proton`	`~captain_proton`
`05:20.25`	`Chikorita`	`wahh`
`05:20.30`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`05:20.34`	`captain_proton`	`wow`
`05:20.38`	`captain_proton`	`MrApathyCream hasn't set anything for me?`
`05:20.40`	`Chikorita`	`u guyz r too much i swear LoL`
`05:21.00`	`MrApathyCream`	`?`
`05:22.10`	`Chikorita`	`Jaybee ur not stil mad at mee cuz i taught da ProxS bot 2 call u a poopsmith ?`
`05:22.47`	`Chikorita`	`i really did try 2 change it`
`05:22.49`	`JBDiGriz`	`~JBDiGriz`
`05:22.50`		`"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger!"`
`05:23.56`	`learnerAtWork`	`is that like a locksmith?`
`05:24.15`	`captain_proton`	`our lock shop has a wormed machine on our net :P`
`05:24.16`	`Chikorita`	`lol i hope not`
`05:24.48`	`Chikorita`	`blu slushy?`
`05:24.49`	`gonkulator`	`yep`
`05:24.59`	`scanline`	`Carnage: you're going to get Glovner's disease like that`
`05:25.22`	`Chikorita`	`glovners disease?`
`05:25.31`	`scanline`	`yep`
`05:25.40`	`Patlabor221`	`that like skurvy?`
`05:25.41`	`Chikorita`	`wuts dat pwease`
`05:25.53`	`captain_proton`	`hear that crackling noise?`
`05:26.10`	`Chikorita`	`umm`
`05:26.19`	`captain_proton`	`ckckckckckckck`
`05:26.25`	`learnerAtWork`	`~dick scurvy`
`05:26.36`	`captain_proton`	`freudian slip!`
`05:26.44`	`learnerAtWork`	`ahahha`
`05:26.46`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh`
`05:26.52`	`learnerAtWork`	`~dict scurvy`
`05:27.17`	`JBDiGriz`	`only two references to glovner disease in google`
`05:27.42`	`learnerAtWork`	`~dict skurvy`
`05:27.55`	`learnerAtWork`	`hrm, okay`
`05:28.22`	`Carnage`	`mm nachos`
`05:28.36`	`learnerAtWork`	`7-11?`
`05:28.43`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`05:30.06`	`Chikorita`	`theres a 6-12 in silver spring`
`05:30.20`	`Chikorita`	`i drove by it taday`
`05:30.56`	`Chikorita`	`anywayzz`
`05:31.18`	`Chikorita`	`gettin late..`
`05:31.22`	`Chikorita`	`yawn`
`05:31.36`	`Carnage`	`want me touck u in?`
`05:31.50`	`JBDiGriz`	`I think Chica is getting tired of the whipping and the tanking.`
`05:32.01`	`Chikorita`	`tuck or touch? LoL`
`05:32.35`	`Carnage`	`maybe both`
`05:32.46`	`Chikorita`	`yes im all whipped out`
`05:32.51`	`Chikorita`	`whiped out`
`05:32.53`	`Chikorita`	`LoL`
`05:33.01`	`Carnage`	`aww i wanted to do that`
`05:33.25`	`Carnage`	`its not that late`
`05:33.39`	`Chikorita`	`almost 1:30a here`
`05:33.45`	`Carnage`	`it is here`
`05:34.08`	`learnerAtWork`	`almost?`
`05:34.17`	`JBDiGriz`	`and learner is still "AtWork"`
`05:34.23`	`learnerAtWork`	`yep`
`05:34.36`	`Chikorita`	`wel my puter clock sez "1:24"`
`05:34.48`	`JBDiGriz`	`Get ntp`
`05:34.53`	`Chikorita`	`1:25`
`05:35.17`	`Carnage`	`learner do u get paid over time?`
`05:35.34`	`JBDiGriz`	`he doesn't get it all at once!`
`05:35.43`	`learnerAtWork`	`i get compensated well enough`
`05:36.57`	`Carnage`	`heh, its fun getting paid to kick dogs`
`05:37.04`	`Chikorita`	`!`
`05:37.17`	`Carnage`	`what my card`
`05:37.25`	`Carnage`	`**want..`
`05:37.52`	`Chikorita`	`OMG`
`05:38.04`	`Chikorita`	`my door jus open by itself!`
`05:38.12`	`Chikorita`	`i got so skeered!`
`05:38.22`	`scanline`	`don't mind that!`
`05:38.28`	`Carnage`	`learner wanted to visit u, opened the door and ran`
`05:38.28`	`learnerAtWork`	`:)`
`05:38.28`	`scanline`	`just.. relax...`
`05:38.30`	`Patlabor221`	`sounds like a class 5 free roaming repeater`
`05:38.41`	`Chikorita`	`i tho it was a ghost!`
`05:38.45`	`Chikorita`	`:$`
`05:38.48`	`Carnage`	`lol`
`05:38.50`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`05:39.00`	`Chikorita`	`haha`
`05:39.12`	`learnerAtWork`	`leave cap alone, scanline :)`
`05:39.19`	`scanline`	`oops`
`05:39.27`	`Chikorita`	`no really dat freaked mee out 4 a second cuz it was slow an creaky wen it opened`
`05:39.37`	`Carnage`	`yea im the only one who can make fun of cap`
`05:39.39`	`Patlabor221`	`scanline, you clear the traps?`
`05:39.49`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`05:39.49`	`scanline`	`Patlabor221: nope`
`05:39.49`	`learnerAtWork`	`heh, scavenger hunt time?`
`05:39.59`	`Carnage`	`chik want me come over?`
`05:40.01`	`Patlabor221`	`no!?!?!`
`05:40.01`	`Chikorita`	`remember...dunt cross da streams..`
`05:40.05`	`scanline`	`Patlabor221: no!`
`05:40.16`	`Patlabor221`	`your gonna make us cross the streams again airn't you?`
`05:40.22`	`scanline`	`hopefully`
`05:40.25`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`05:40.37`	`learnerAtWork`	`you said crossing the streams was _bad_`
`05:40.39`	`Chikorita`	`im by meeself :(`
`05:40.39`	`Patlabor221`	`the perverse peleasure you derive from that worries me.`
`05:40.51`	`Patlabor221`	`WAHT DID YOU DO RAY!!`
`05:40.52`	`Chikorita`	`lol learner funny`
`05:41.01`	`Chikorita`	`2 funny peepz`
`05:41.08`	`scanline`	`well, it was the only thing I could think of...`
`05:41.24`	`Patlabor221`	`Noone steps on a church in my town`
`05:41.31`	`scanline`	`and now... a GIANT LEGO GEORGE BUSH is after us!`
`05:41.42`	`Chikorita`	`u would not laff if u wwas here cuz dat was hella creepy`
`05:41.45`	`Chikorita`	`lol scanny`
`05:42.03`	`Patlabor221`	`talk to the ghost, ask it to stop, it should`
`05:42.12`	`learnerAtWork`	`that's the most benign thing you could think of? :)`
`05:42.23`	`scanline`	`learnerAtWork: well, at least it's made with legos`
`05:42.31`	`scanline`	`learnerAtWork: erector set would be more dangerous`
`05:42.45`	`captain_proton`	`one of our wiring cabinets happens to be located in the back of a biohazard level 2 area`
`05:44.12`	`learnerAtWork`	`legos can be dangerous too`
`05:44.24`	`scanline`	`hmm, true`
`05:45.06`	`scanline`	`hmm, apparently there are several designs`
`05:45.31`	`bzgirl`	`nighty nite all`
`05:46.26`	`Chikorita`	`trebuchet? iznt dat like a catapult thingie?`
`05:47.25`	`scanline`	`yep`
`05:47.44`	`Chikorita`	`i think cats can see ghosts`
`05:48.10`	`Chikorita`	`cats r good "watchdogz" for spirits an ghosts`
`05:48.12`	`Carnage`	`want my cat? im tierd of kicking it`
`05:48.24`	`Chikorita`	`carny u r mean`
`05:48.26`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`05:48.45`	`Chikorita`	`y do u have a cat if u jus keep kickin it?`
`05:48.54`	`Carnage`	`i sorie, i havent kicked a catyet dogs are a different story`
`05:49.15`	`Chikorita`	`umm ok`
`05:50.46`	`Carnage`	`so its ok if i kick a dog?`
`05:51.34`	`Chikorita`	`lol no`
`05:51.54`	`Carnage`	`how about family members?`
`05:52.58`	`Chikorita`	`umm depends which ones LoL j/k`
`05:53.24`	`Chikorita`	`o u mean ur family? LoL`
`05:53.42`	`Carnage`	`at times`
`05:53.50`	`Chikorita`	`my mom drives mee nutz sumtimes , she worrys 2 much bout mee`
`05:56.28`	`Carnage`	`really`
`05:56.53`	`Chikorita`	`heehe`
`05:57.45`	`Carnage`	`my mom wurries 2 much also`
`06:00.00`	`Carnage`	`hurtin animals... not yet i say i do, but if u want i can`
`06:01.41`	`Patlabor221`	`most vertebrates can see ghosts`
`06:02.40`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Implemented Tweak.Text, but need to find a good way to set the texture for that to work right`
`06:03.13`	`Chikorita`	`no dunt i kno ur jus kiddn (i think)`
`06:03.39`	`Patlabor221`	`nope`
`06:04.06`	`Patlabor221`	`just generaly the brain dosn't register it in most adults`
`06:04.39`	`Chikorita`	`o`
`06:04.51`	`Chikorita`	`i believe in ghosts`
`06:05.13`	`Patlabor221`	`then that makes it easyer to see them`
`06:05.28`	`Patlabor221`	`and it's never that easy :)`
`06:05.30`	`Carnage`	`when theres something strange in the naborhood who u going to call ghsot busters`
`06:05.32`	`Chikorita`	`i was jus tellin learner ...dat if i saw a ghost ..i would b like ms. pac man an run around da house an try to escape LoL`
`06:05.56`	`Patlabor221`	`then I don't think you really belive in ghosts`
`06:06.05`	`Patlabor221`	`dosn't work like casper`
`06:06.20`	`Chikorita`	`no i do believe in ghost , dey jus skeer mee`
`06:06.51`	`Patlabor221`	`why?`
`06:07.10`	`Chikorita`	`a ghost iz usually an unsettled spirit ..othawise dey wouldnt b around stil`
`06:07.17`	`Patlabor221`	`not allways`
`06:07.35`	`Chikorita`	`i dunt think dere r "nice" ghosts`
`06:07.37`	`Patlabor221`	`and generaly unsetlement is a one thing`
`06:07.47`	`Patlabor221`	`how do you know?`
`06:07.47`	`Chikorita`	`angels yes ...nice ghosts no`
`06:07.58`	`Chikorita`	`i dunno im guessin lol`
`06:08.42`	`Chikorita`	`i had a friend who saw a real ghost 1 time itz tru`
`06:08.54`	`Patlabor221`	`not all unfinished biz is bad`
`06:08.58`	`Chikorita`	`she wasnt da only 1 either , all her classmates saw it`
`06:09.15`	`Patlabor221`	`should have said hi`
`06:09.16`	`Chikorita`	`wel...betta 2 not mess wif dem ..`
`06:09.25`	`Chikorita`	`no she sed it was skeery`
`06:09.35`	`captain_proton`	`in reality, it wasn't a ghost, just that peter pan guy working a temp job as the janitor`
`06:09.39`	`Patlabor221`	`fear is only in the mind of the beholder`
`06:10.01`	`learnerAtWork`	`fear is the mind killer`
`06:10.04`	`Chikorita`	`she saw dis old man come outta dis door from dis building , buh his feet werent touching da ground!`
`06:10.10`	`Patlabor221`	`beer is the little death`
`06:10.16`	`Chikorita`	`lol capn`
`06:10.17`	`learnerAtWork`	`I will face my fearand let it pass through me`
`06:10.19`	`Patlabor221`	`beer is that what brings total oblivion`
`06:10.35`	`MrApathyCream`	`i will face my beer and let it pass through me`
`06:10.42`	`learnerAtWork`	`MAC! lol`
`06:10.44`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`06:11.15`	`Chikorita`	`ok nevamind no more ghost talk :P`
`06:12.07`	`Carnage`	`Booo!`
`06:12.15`	`CIA`	`03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Send multiple flag updates in one packet`
`06:12.25`	`Chikorita`	`haha`
`06:12.48`	`Chikorita`	`wel i gtg ...nite nite all`
`06:16.28`	`captain_proton`	`oh MrApathyCream`
`06:16.39`	`captain_proton`	`i should show you the technique for impaling a tank on xmission`
`06:16.41`	`captain_proton`	`1.9`
`06:16.58`	`MrApathyCream`	`xmission needs to rebuild first`
`06:17.11`	`MrApathyCream`	`protocol change`
`06:17.15`	`MrApathyCream`	`scans :)`
`06:17.16`	`captain_proton`	`as do i`
`06:17.37`	`MrApathyCream`	`on a pyramid?`
`06:17.46`	`captain_proton`	`ya`
`06:18.47`	`captain_proton`	`xmission up?`
`06:19.03`	`MrApathyCream`	`no`
`06:19.04`	`captain_proton`	`hrm`
`06:19.06`	`MrApathyCream`	`still old code`
`06:19.09`	`captain_proton`	`[jupiter@bhaskara ~/projects/bzflag]$ src/bzflag/bzflag`
`06:19.09`	`captain_proton`	`Segmentation fault`
`06:19.24`	`MrApathyCream`	`ya MsgFlagUpdate changed`
`06:19.34`	`scanline`	`bah!`
`06:19.39`	`MrApathyCream`	`hehe`
`06:19.53`	`MrApathyCream`	`protocol.h yes, others no`
`06:20.00`	`scanline`	`>:P`
`06:20.14`	`MrApathyCream`	`gotta slow ya down somehow`
`06:24.52`	`captain_proton`	`hrm`
`06:24.56`	`captain_proton`	`you did something naughty MrApathyCream`
`06:25.16`	`captain_proton`	`#0 0x402d5bd7 in std::string::_Rep::_M_grab(std::allocator<char> const&, std::allocator<char> const&) () from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/libstdc++.so.5`
`06:25.16`	`captain_proton`	`#1 0x402d5d1c in std::string::string(std::string const&) () from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/libstdc++.so.5`
`06:25.16`	`captain_proton`	`#2 0x0807b1fa in _Construct<std::string, std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > > (__p=0x81c0780, __value=@0x81bf400) at stl_construct.h:78`
`06:25.16`	`captain_proton`	`#3 0x08125ec8 in std::_Rb_tree<std::string, std::string, std::_Identity<std::string>, std::less<std::string>, std::allocator<std::string> >::_M_create_node(std::string const&) (this=0x81bf488,`
`06:25.19`	`captain_proton`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:25.21`	`captain_proton`	`#4 0x08124b22 in std::_Rb_tree<std::string, std::string, std::_Identity<std::string>, std::less<std::string>, std::allocator<std::string> >::_M_insert(std::_Rb_tree_node_base, std::_Rb_tree_node_base, std::string const&) (this=0x81bf488, __x_=0x0, __y_=0x81c0758, __v=@0x81bf400) at stl_tree.h:985`
`06:25.24`	`captain_proton`	`#5 0x0812307d in std::_Rb_tree<std::string, std::string, std::_Identity<std::string>, std::less<std::string>, std::allocator<std::string> >::insert_unique(std::string const&) (this=0x81bf488,`
`06:25.27`	`captain_proton`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:25.29`	`captain_proton`	`#6 0x08121b67 in std::set<std::string, std::less<std::string>, std::allocator<std::string> >::insert(std::string const&) (this=0x81bf488, __x=@0x81bf400) at stl_set.h:155`
`06:25.33`	`captain_proton`	`#7 0x0811d46c in StateDatabase::eval(std::string const&) (this=0x81c02c0, name=@0x81bf400) at StateDatabase.cxx:222`
`06:25.36`	`captain_proton`	`#8 0x08165b9a in __static_initialization_and_destruction_0 (__initialize_p=1, __priority=65535) at TankSceneNode.cxx:24`
`06:25.39`	`captain_proton`	`#9 0x08165c86 in _GLOBAL__I__ZN13TankSceneNode6numLODE () at SceneRenderer.h:186`
`06:25.41`	`captain_proton`	`#10 0x08170585 in __do_global_ctors_aux ()`
`06:25.44`	`captain_proton`	`#11 0x0804d031 in _init ()`
`06:26.14`	`captain_proton`	`geez`
`06:26.16`	`captain_proton`	`MrApathyCream:`
`06:26.26`	`captain_proton`	`BZDB isn't full yet :P`
`06:26.33`	`MrApathyCream`	`doesn't matter,.. no one plays`
`06:26.57`	`captain_proton`	`maybe people -would- play if the client didn't crash`
`06:27.03`	`MrApathyCream`	`doubt it`
`06:27.13`	`captain_proton`	`i'm gonna go shower, while i think about how silly your new code is`
`06:27.21`	`captain_proton`	`then when i get back, i might fix it`
`06:27.41`	`MrApathyCream`	`probably some BZDB var is unitialized before being downloaded from server`
`06:27.55`	`captain_proton`	`TankSceneNode.cxx`
`06:27.56`	`captain_proton`	`line 24`
`06:28.07`	`captain_proton`	`you're trying to make BZDB->eval() calls in the static init phase`
`06:28.17`	`MrApathyCream`	`yah, that would be one`
`06:28.23`	`MrApathyCream`	`i'll remoev`
`06:28.31`	`MrApathyCream`	`doesn't crash on bzflag dev platform of choice, tho`
`06:28.54`	`captain_proton`	`well it should`
`06:31.36`	`CIA`	`03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/geometry (TankSceneNode.cxx): Don't use bzdb in static initializers, *nix seems to have global initialization problem here`
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`07:10.25`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Hooray, you can change the texture name in particletest`
`07:10.36`	`strayer`	`hi...`
`07:25.52`	`captain_proton`	`heh`
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`07:41.51`	`learner`	`got all quiet in here`
`07:42.04`	`captain_proton`	`shhhh`
`07:42.07`	`captain_proton`	`we have to stop talking about him`
`07:43.37`	`learner`	`yea.. that scanline -- he's goes CRAZY when you talk about him`
`07:43.45`	`captain_proton`	`yup`
`07:49.12`	`scanline`	`PICKLE!`
`07:50.00`	`learner`	`yup`
`07:53.07`	`learner`	`pickle, beef stew, and ham sandwich`
`07:53.10`	`learner`	`yum`
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`07:55.30`	`bomber`	`moin`
`07:55.36`	`learner`	`moin`
`07:59.25`	`learner`	`words are too dang common`
`08:05.32`	`learner`	`heh cap`
`08:05.38`	`learner`	`like the bzbb avatar`
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`08:05.45`	`captain_proton`	`that was pat's doing`
`08:05.47`	`captain_proton`	`as always`
`08:05.50`	`learner`	`:)`
`08:05.53`	`learner`	`it's good`
`08:35.46`	`learner`	`almost as effective as admin`
`09:14.19`	`CIA`	`03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Reset buttons for the Tweak controls`
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`12:12.39`	`Mecworks`	`ibot: seen tim?`
`12:12.39`		`tim <~timesync@dsl-hill-208-38-5-104-cgy.nucleus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #picogui, 151d 18h 51m 35s ago, saying: 'prot-work I actually did that, but i had already done a make first... i'll try again'.`
`12:12.46`	`Mecworks`	`ibot: seen timr?`
`12:12.46`		`Mecworks: i haven't seen 'timr'`
`12:12.55`	`Mecworks`	`ibot: seen timriker?`
`12:12.55`		`timriker <~timr@c-67-163-110-59.client.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 7h 50m 6s ago, saying: '~xmission'.`
`12:13.17`	`Mecworks`	`ibot: seen bzflag?`
`12:13.17`		`bzflag <~timr@proxyle02.ext.ti.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 111d 12h 52m 23s ago, saying: 'Bonez39: you mean MTU?'.`
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`13:01.23`	`[dmp]`	`Quol_AtWork: have one of your servers been malfunctioning within the last few days? (seems to be available, but one coudlnt connect)`
`13:02.01`	`Quol_AtWork`	`SGI said he did an ooops - maybe that was it...`
`13:02.03`	`Quol_AtWork`	`which one?`
`13:02.09`	`Quol_AtWork`	`CTF?`
`13:02.43`	`[dmp]`	`quol.bzflag.org:8081`
`13:03.13`	`[dmp]`	`My script cant connect to it.`
`13:03.31`	`Quol_AtWork`	`lemme check`
`13:03.59`	`Quol_AtWork`	`hmm - I will restartit`
`13:04.44`	`[dmp]`	`You cant connect to it, right?`
`13:05.26`	`Quol_AtWork`	`I still can't - even after the restart`
`13:05.29`	`Quol_AtWork`	`hmmmm`
`13:07.33`	`[dmp]`	`Hmm. I wonder if it would be nice for server owners to get an email, if a server stops responding. As my scripts are are already monitoring them, it would be quite simpel to add this.`
`13:08.23`	`Quol_AtWork`	`it's up now`
`13:08.33`	`Quol_AtWork`	`server process was screwed - had to kill -9 it`
`13:08.37`	`[dmp]`	`What was the problem?`
`13:08.38`	`[dmp]`	`ah`
`13:09.08`	`Quol_AtWork`	`that would be cool`
`13:09.20`	`Quol_AtWork`	`you could then charge - like a BZ NOC :)`
`13:09.30`	`[dmp]`	`hehe`
`13:11.46`	`Quol_AtWork`	`I know that story - I want to do sooo much - but I end up doing very little :)`
`13:13.26`	`[dmp]`	`Actualy it wouldnt take much to add it (as the scripts already detects if a server is down, and then they dont fetch data from it so often).. But I need to get a php-project done, so i've agreed with myself not to touch anything else, until can show my customers somethign :)`
`13:13.51`	`[dmp]`	`the "hard" part would be to make sure it only sends ONE alert .. and not each time it tries to get data :)`
`13:14.13`	`Quol_AtWork`	`[dmp]: what is the difference between your stats and noodles? other than you differentiate between CTF and FFA - noodle's is just highes and lowest...?`
`13:14.41`	`[dmp]`	`Mine is average kill-ratio. Noodles is max high/lowscore`
`13:15.11`	`Quol_AtWork`	`ahhhh`
`13:15.23`	`[dmp]`	`Actualyl I think they Kill-ratio ladders are rather weak, but nobody seems to complain. And Im not sure how to improve them.`
`13:16.00`	`Quol_AtWork`	`they are alright`
`13:16.05`	`Quol_AtWork`	`imo`
`13:16.07`	`[dmp]`	`Another major difference is, that noodles monitor all public servers. I dont.`
`13:16.17`	`[dmp]`	`Guess so; I dont play FFA :-)`
`13:24.16`	`Quol_AtWork`	`you ever look into nagios/netsaint - maybe you could pull somrthing outa there for your monitoring routines`
`13:24.28`	`Quol_AtWork`	`or your notification routines...`
`13:25.48`	`[dmp]`	`Never heard of them. Got any links?`
`13:29.47`	`[dmp]`	`whe! RAM arrived :)`
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`13:43.37`	`bryjen`	`wow. my server got _3_ whole players last night.`
`13:47.45`	`bryjen`	`there's ~ 40 servers now, but there dont seem to be players on > 10 at once. guess people dont like to page-down.`
`13:48.31`	`Quol_AtWork`	`[dmp]: www.nagios.org`
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`13:49.42`	`Quol_AtWork`	`it is a full monitoring system - but since it is open source you may be able to pull routines out of there, or maybe it would be easier to just create a new plugin that checks the status of the servers - I know that there is a default "tcp" checker - maybe something can be done with that?`
`13:57.55`	`[dmp]`	`Seems like a powerfull too, but i think it would be overkill to use that. Anyway, Ive just added the "status" column to the frontpage (server-overview), so now people can get some idea which servers is active and which servers isnt..`
`13:58.50`	`[dmp]`	`But i would like to rewrite the data-collector anyway. Adding email-alert would make it abit more fun to work with`
`13:59.00`	`[dmp]`	`Unless it begins to spam people, and they complain :-)`
`13:59.07`	`Quol_AtWork`	`ya - it's is very powerfull - way overkill - just thought that it might be easy to pull out the notification routines...`
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`13:59.26`	`Quol_AtWork`	`probebly complicated though :)`
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`14:03.57`	`fiberchunks_`	`ah`
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`14:19.21`	`bzgirl`	`hi fiberchunks, back from AB?`
`14:20.04`	`fiberchunks`	`indeed`
`14:20.05`	`fiberchunks`	`:)`
`14:20.30`	`fiberchunks`	`montana as well -- calgary's beautiful country, though their highway is a little poorly engineered ;)`
`14:21.12`	`bzgirl`	`why? it has two lanes..traffic can move in either direction..what more do you need?`
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`14:21.37`	`fiberchunks`	`less frickin stoplights ;)`
`14:21.51`	`fiberchunks`	`an overpass or 2 might be nice too`
`14:22.21`	`bzgirl`	`everything is N/S/E/W in Calgary too isnt it?`
`14:22.36`	`fiberchunks`	`yeah, it seems that way`
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`14:22.51`	`bzgirl`	`hi doug`
`14:23.03`	`doug_`	`greetings and salutations bzgirl`
`14:23.17`	`fiberchunks`	`there were / are some nasty fires down by crows nest though -- made the sun look really interesting`
`14:23.54`	`doug_`	`its really just the heat death of the universe, dont worry =)`
`14:23.55`	`fiberchunks`	`the ranch I was on is where they filmed shanghai noon and shanghai knights`
`14:24.08`	`fiberchunks`	`and the lonesome dove series`
`14:25.04`	`bzgirl`	`yeah the fires still going`
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`14:27.15`	`fiberchunks`	`what's happening in the bzflag world lately?`
`14:30.02`	`bzgirl`	`well, 1.9 seems to be chugging along nicely, the forums had a nice "suicide" debate going recently too`
`14:30.14`	`BagsAtWork`	`whinning, death, destruction,......the usual`
`14:30.29`	`bzgirl`	`and that too yes. :)`
`14:30.53`	`BagsAtWork`	`:`
`14:30.57`	`BagsAtWork`	`:)`
`14:33.27`	`fiberchunks`	`suicide?`
`14:34.05`	`BagsAtWork`	`as a tactic, strategem`
`14:34.09`	`fiberchunks`	`yay`
`14:34.11`	`fiberchunks`	`:\`
`14:35.12`	`BagsAtWork`	`one side compared it to rejoining, another to camping, another to russian roulette`
`14:37.11`	`BagsAtWork`	`and then Spiff went on vacation and Chikorita rejoined...........could they be the same person.................hmmmmmm`
`14:37.47`	`BagsAtWork`	`and yes, Bagheera=Koba=Oy=Little Luey=Holy Tank Killer`
`14:39.27`	`BagsAtWork`	`:)`
`14:39.46`	`fiberchunks`	`but first! organization`
`14:39.59`	`doug_`	`lol`
`14:40.26`	`doug_`	`they are only twins :P`
`14:41.36`	`BagsAtWork`	`fiber chunk oodles, fiber oodle chunks, oodle fiber chunks, chunks fiber oodles, chunks oodles fiber`
`14:41.59`	`fiberchunks`	`fiber oodle chunks`
`14:42.10`	`fiberchunks`	`fiboodlechunk`
`14:43.12`	`fiberchunks`	`bzgirl: I've got some of that 'funny money' that you all use up there -- my kid loves it ;)`
`14:44.14`	`bzgirl`	`fiberchunks: :) its not worth alot these days`
`14:44.45`	`doug_`	`hes been off for quite awhile`
`14:49.01`	`[dmp]`	`My computer cant calculate. With 128mb i got 1-2 megs free. Now I added 512m.. and i got 6-10 megs free :-)`
`14:49.28`	`bomber`	`:o))`
`14:50.41`	`david_v`	`add 1536 MB more and you'll have something like 30 MB free :)`
`14:51.08`	`BagsAtWork`	`rumour is that noodleman is moving`
`14:51.22`	`[dmp]`	`Thanks alot dave. My postal address is Dennis M. Pedersen, denf�rduikkeatvide 3, 9220 aalborg`
`14:51.26`	`[dmp]`	`:)`
`14:51.32`	`BagsAtWork`	`pat, i believe, has info`
`14:51.45`	`[dmp]`	`~d`
`14:51.46`	`david_v`	`[dmp], i've been on that road. it's not nice ;)`
`14:52.02`	`david_v`	`Blue Eyes, Blue Monday? heh`
`14:53.53`	`[dmp]`	`Guess its spiff and alterego :)`
`14:54.26`	`david_v`	`i think many :)`
`14:54.46`	`david_v`	`you wouldn't know how many nicks i've stolen ;)`
`14:55.38`	`[dmp]`	`bastard!`
`14:55.40`	`[dmp]`	`:)`
`14:55.53`	`david_v`	`did i forget your nick? :D`
`14:56.09`	`[dmp]`	`[not me], [somebody else], BRACKET-MAN ..`
`14:56.23`	`[dmp]`	`Somehow people never gets fooled :)`
`14:56.52`	`david_v`	`they just take a quick glance on the score ;)`
`14:57.27`	`david_v`	`if it has a minus, and one of those weird nicks... well, i said too much :)`
`14:58.22`	`[dmp]`	`Weird nicks? You mean like fortix? :-)`
`14:58.50`	`david_v`	`don't know anyone with that nick :)`
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`15:01.48`	`learner`	`hey fiber!`
`15:01.51`	`learner`	`welcome back`
`15:01.55`	`learner`	`good trip?`
`15:02.13`	`fiberchunks`	`danke, and yes -- extremely good trip -- I need to move, soon ;)`
`15:02.20`	`learner`	`hehe`
`15:02.35`	`david_v`	`hehe`
`15:03.28`	`learner`	`catch any good pictures?`
`15:03.36`	`fiberchunks`	`tons`
`15:03.48`	`fiberchunks`	`gotta format em, and slap em somewhere`
`15:03.56`	`learner`	`sweet, ye shall have to share at some point ;)`
`15:04.05`	`fiberchunks`	`indeed`
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`15:39.05`	`doug_`	`mornin patlabor221`
`15:39.22`	`patlabor221`	`sup`
`15:40.01`	`doug_`	`on hold with dell... at least they have nice music =)`
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`15:44.04`	`BagsAtWork`	`http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5063143.html`
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`15:52.23`	`doug_`	`greetings timriker`
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`16:08.01`	`learner`	`eek!`
`16:08.05`	`learner`	`grr`
`16:08.44`	`fiberchunks`	`try the command line phool ;)`
`16:09.26`	`learner`	`I'm 2 for 2 (did it yesterday too)`
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`16:10.04`	`learner`	`g'mornin jb`
`16:10.20`	`JBDiGriz`	`moin learner, sleep well?`
`16:10.31`	`learner`	`meh, not really`
`16:10.53`	`JBDiGriz`	`sleep at all?`
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`16:22.13`	`learner`	`fun`
`16:23.49`	`patlabor221`	`again?`
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`16:31.14`	`doug__`	`?`
`16:31.21`	`Merry`	`hey Chick@`
`16:31.22`	`Merry`	`!`
`16:31.26`	`Merry`	`hi guyth`
`16:31.27`	`Merry`	`s`
`16:31.33`	`Chikorita`	`hi merry`
`16:31.39`	`Merry`	`how are you?`
`16:31.44`	`Chikorita`	`i good`
`16:31.45`	`Chikorita`	`u?`
`16:32.18`	`Merry`	`good`
`16:32.46`	`Chikorita`	`kewl`
`16:33.08`	`Chikorita`	`EDS iz on i hopin mee an learner can match dem`
`16:33.11`	`Chikorita`	`~d`
`16:33.57`	`Merry`	`no my bro Leg and Fortix are match'in dem`
`16:34.12`	`Chikorita`	`no i wanna`
`16:34.13`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`16:34.35`	`Merry`	`they are match'in dem right now`
`16:34.57`	`Chikorita`	`ahh`
`16:35.08`	`Chestal`	`eds?`
`16:35.19`	`Merry`	`but they're waiting for david`
`16:35.26`	`Merry`	`yes`
`16:35.31`	`Chestal`	`who is EDS?`
`16:35.33`	`Chikorita`	`lol who knows wut dey r callin demselves now Chestal`
`16:35.43`	`Merry`	`Evil Dark Samari`
`16:35.49`	`Chikorita`	`ooH`
`16:35.55`	`Chikorita`	`hi chestal`
`16:35.59`	`Merry`	`hi chestal`
`16:36.10`	`Chikorita`	`~Chikorita`
`16:36.11`		`you are, like, a very friendly bzflag player who is gonna tank your whippy whippy`
`16:36.18`	`Chestal`	`ah, I do not know them too well, but Fortix should win this`
`16:36.18`	`Chikorita`	`grr`
`16:36.49`	`Chikorita`	`where iz learner? i hope he showaz fast so wee can maybee match dem 2`
`16:37.00`	`Chestal`	`hasn't there been a Samurai team before?`
`16:37.05`	`Merry`	`yes they should`
`16:37.15`	`Chikorita`	`all mee teamies r A.W.O.L on mee :/`
`16:37.44`	`Merry`	`AWOL??`
`16:37.47`	`Chikorita`	`imma go watch da match..`
`16:37.50`	`Merry`	`bye`
`16:38.01`	`Chikorita`	`Absent Wif Out Leave`
`16:38.13`	`Merry`	`oh oh`
`16:38.14`	`Merry`	`bye`
`16:38.16`	`Merry`	`cu`
`16:38.27`	`Merry`	`g2g`
`16:38.30`	`Merry`	`for m`
`16:38.31`	`Merry`	`e`
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`16:39.59`	`Chikorita`	`dey r matchin right now :(`
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`17:10.53`	`Merry`	`Hey, Chestal, they won`
`17:11.03`	`Merry`	`Fortix won`
`17:11.17`	`Merry`	`9-1`
`17:11.39`	`Merry`	`sry, didn't know you entered it.`
`17:11.44`	`Merry`	`bye`
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`17:57.52`	`doug__`	`:)`
`17:58.39`	`Quol_AtWork`	`quiet today...`
`18:00.08`	`david_v`	`boo`
`18:01.55`	`Quol_AtWork`	`boo right back to ya david_v`
`18:02.18`	`Quol_AtWork`	`yet another road warrier gets nailed with blaster :)`
`18:02.48`	`david_v`	`hmm`
`18:06.42`	`Nidhoggr_`	`w00`
`18:07.04`	`Nidhoggr_`	`got a new router last night and we can all 3 play bzflag at the same time on the same server with no problems.`
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`18:12.43`	`patlabor221`	`so it was the linksys`
`18:19.31`	`david_v`	`patlabor221: oh i'm in Linux now BTW`
`18:19.43`	`patlabor221`	`cool`
`18:19.46`	`patlabor221`	`congrats :)`
`18:20.29`	`david_v`	`doh ;)`
`18:20.51`	`david_v`	`why congrats though, i've been in Linux for almost a year :)`
`18:20.57`	`david_v`	`not all the time, i should add ;)`
`18:21.03`	`patlabor221`	`well you said NOW :)`
`18:21.08`	`david_v`	`yes :)`
`18:21.23`	`david_v`	`because i was supposed to be in Windows, but a guy asked a Linux question so... ;)`
`18:25.03`	`fiberchunks`	`heh, I knew the linksys was a pos, thanks for the confirmation`
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`18:27.32`	`tea\|tree_`	`hello`
`18:29.02`	`Chestal`	`hi tea`
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`18:32.44`	`JBDiGriz`	`~d`
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`18:35.13`	`JBDiGriz`	`Quol_AtWork: I haven't seen you around. How are you doing?`
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`18:48.47`	`Nidhoggr_`	`yeah.. the linksys was at fault.`
`18:48.51`	`Nidhoggr_`	`we got a new netgear.`
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`18:50.39`	`bzgirl`	`hi carny`
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`18:53.19`	`Chikorita`	`heehe`
`18:53.26`	`Chikorita`	`iz learner back yet?`
`18:54.12`	`Chikorita`	`davy i dunt tink he iz back yet ...maybee in a hour more`
`18:55.05`	`Carnage`	`Learner?`
`18:57.51`	`BagsAtWork`	`hey chick`
`18:59.44`	`Chikorita`	`hiya baggy`
`19:00.02`	`Chikorita`	`hey carny where iz benny do u kno huh huh huh?`
`19:00.17`	`Chikorita`	`i needz 2 speak wif him bout sumtin..`
`19:00.35`	`Chikorita`	`brb`
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`19:23.08`	`david_v`	`Chikorita: match now? my teamies are on`
`19:23.12`	`david_v`	`learner: you there?`
`19:23.31`	`david_v`	`2 hours 24 minutes idle ... hm`
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`19:32.56`	`Chikorita`	`~d`
`19:33.38`	`Chikorita`	`hmm`
`19:40.38`	`david_v`	`tic toc tic toc`
`19:40.39`	`david_v`	`:)`
`19:40.50`	`david_v`	`we're waiting :)`
`19:41.32`	`Chikorita`	`:(`
`19:42.12`	`BagsAtWork`	`tock tick tock tick`
`19:42.16`	`Chikorita`	`btw congrats on ur win Davy`
`19:42.50`	`Chikorita`	`u guyz r makin mee anxious wif dat tic toc`
`19:42.52`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`19:43.05`	`Chikorita`	`dere iz nuffin i can do buh wait 2`
`19:44.15`	`david_v`	`heh`
`19:44.23`	`BagsAtWork`	`<to the tune of Jeopardy> nah, nah, nah, nah, ..........`
`19:44.31`	`david_v`	`tic toc tic toc crash (Windows clock :)`
`19:45.36`	`BagsAtWork`	`tic toc tic toc.......SCO steps in and says "Stop, we have the patent rights for that"`
`19:45.42`	`david_v`	`lol`
`19:45.47`	`BagsAtWork`	`Linux Clock`
`19:46.11`	`david_v`	`didn't know clocks could be tainted. is somebody going to sue me for my watch? :)`
`19:46.20`	`david_v`	`better take off my clothes too`
`19:46.34`	`david_v`	`but not here :)`
`19:46.39`	`BagsAtWork`	`NO PUT THEM BACK ON PLEASE`
`19:47.05`	`david_v`	`but SCO says i must buy a license for the clothes`
`19:47.11`	`BagsAtWork`	`if the watch is digital......RIAA might have something to say about that`
`19:47.15`	`david_v`	`just $10000 for each piece`
`19:47.53`	`BagsAtWork`	`how many words can you make out of the letters "SCO RIAA MICROSOFT"?`
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`19:48.27`	`david_v`	`hmmm`
`19:48.42`	`david_v`	`give me a complete dictionary in a file, and i'll check it ;)`
`19:49.24`	`BagsAtWork`	`Got it. Russian Mofia`
`19:49.28`	`david_v`	`brb playing`
`19:49.32`	`BagsAtWork`	`ncya`
`19:50.43`	`Chikorita`	`lol baggy: NO PUT THEM BACK ON PLEASE`
`19:51.16`	`Chikorita`	`ah da dreaded bz battle chat "n"`
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`19:52.21`	`BagsAtWork`	`i need an "n" filter`
`19:52.43`	`bryjen`	`There's no U in there`
`19:53.02`	`BagsAtWork`	`made you look`
`19:53.08`	`BagsAtWork`	`:)`
`19:53.16`	`bryjen`	`~spell mofia`
`19:53.18`		`possible spellings for mofia: Mafia mafia MFA Mufi Moria Sofia movie Moina Moira miff MIA Mia`
`19:54.10`	`david_v`	`brb`
`19:54.11`	`BagsAtWork`	`need to get that thing updated with "rorita" dictionary`
`19:55.48`	`Chikorita`	`rorita dictionary??! HMM`
`19:56.03`	`Chikorita`	`iz dat a reference 2 mee >:(`
`19:56.10`	`Chikorita`	`mafia**`
`20:08.37`	`david_v`	`*tooth`
`20:09.40`	`JBDiGriz`	`~d`
`20:12.07`	`JBDiGriz`	`I have to check the duration ladders for craxy.`
`20:12.43`	`Chikorita`	`toof*`
`20:12.57`	`Chikorita`	`lol jaybee`
`20:13.14`	`Chikorita`	`ya he iz a new resident BZer on ducati`
`20:13.18`	`Chikorita`	`he lives dere`
`20:13.20`	`Chikorita`	`like mee`
`20:13.22`	`Chikorita`	`lol`
`20:14.24`	`JBDiGriz`	`Chikorita: You're not there as much as craxy.`
`20:14.58`	`JBDiGriz`	`The ladders site is down :( It must have overflowed counting the duration!`
`20:15.16`	`david_v`	`hmm`
`20:15.46`	`Chikorita`	`craxy mouse grows on u ..i didnt like him at first buh he iz an ok player LoL`
`20:15.56`	`Chikorita`	`k i gtg peeple...`
`20:16.07`	`JBDiGriz`	`I think he's trying to learn everything about bz in a month.`
`20:16.12`	`JBDiGriz`	`He might do it as well!`
`20:20.43`	`doug__`	`huh, berkeley software design...`
`20:34.50`	`david_v`	`learner: hellooo?`
`20:35.34`	`Quol_AtWork`	`learner probably went to work and left himself signed on at home`
`20:35.41`	`david_v`	`hmmm`
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`20:55.26`	`david_v`	`hmm`
`20:55.45`	`learner`	`hey, david -- how'd the match go?`
`20:55.45`	`david_v`	`wb... if you can find Chiko, we could match (i hope), but i think she's out of reach now`
`20:55.53`	`learner`	`~d`
`20:55.57`	`learner`	`hmm`
`20:55.58`	`david_v`	`the EDS match?`
`20:56.04`	`learner`	`yep`
`20:56.50`	`Nidhoggr`	`hray! I got a new job!`
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`20:57.05`	`david_v`	`Nidhoggr: congrats :)`
`20:57.14`	`david_v`	`learner: 9-1 to us, it's their first match`
`20:57.24`	`JBDiGriz`	`Nidhoggr: Great, where and what?`
`20:57.26`	`learner`	`ah. hehe cool :)`
`20:57.28`	`[dmp]`	`got: new memory. wanted: new isp >:(`
`20:57.33`	`learner`	`so you went "easy" on them?`
`20:57.45`	`[dmp]`	`who did you play david_v?`
`20:57.48`	`learner`	`jbdigriz: noticed you're high duration rank :)`
`20:57.59`	`JBDiGriz`	`hi [dmp], what's up with the ladders? or should I ask what's down?`
`20:58.00`	`david_v`	`yes and no, i expected them to be less experienced, so i was a bit relaxed for a while`
`20:58.06`	`david_v`	`[dmp]: EDS`
`20:58.12`	`[dmp]`	`JBDiGriz: No Internet.`
`20:58.21`	`learner`	`[dmp]: eek`
`20:58.23`	`[dmp]`	`They should be available again.`
`20:58.29`	`patlabor221`	`http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/images/bottle.png`
`20:59.04`	`learner`	`heh, that looks like my bastard ale bottle :D`
`20:59.22`	`learner`	`not quite that big, though -- how many oz is that?`
`20:59.26`	`JBDiGriz`	`learner: I don't usually check the durations. It can't be too recent though.`
`20:59.36`	`learner`	`jb: you are top dog`
`20:59.39`	`david_v`	`[dmp]: check the league site, they're "active" now after we played them you know :)`
`20:59.48`	`[dmp]`	`:)`
`20:59.49`	`patlabor221`	`3 quarts`
`20:59.54`	`learner`	`sheesh`
`21:00.18`	`learner`	`you'd have to make a trip to the bathroom before you even finish it`
`21:00.45`	`[dmp]`	`david_v: ah, those guys. They seems to use more time on their name, than playing online :)`
`21:00.50`	`patlabor221`	`it's empty`
`21:01.05`	`learner`	`did you empty it?`
`21:01.17`	`david_v`	`[dmp]: lol, could be :)`
`21:01.38`	`patlabor221`	`when the bottle was new, no I did not empty it`
`21:01.39`	`learner`	`david: who were the players?`
`21:01.42`	`patlabor221`	`I did not even help`
`21:01.48`	`learner`	`:)`
`21:01.53`	`learner`	`suure`
`21:01.58`	`patlabor221`	`I was in the process of converting pete's wiked ale to pee`
`21:02.06`	`learner`	`lol`
`21:02.25`	`[dmp]`	`Man, now their DNS server/s died again :(`
`21:02.52`	`david_v`	`learner: The Dark Samurai and Oman`
`21:03.09`	`learner`	`ahh... mkay`
`21:03.16`	`learner`	`pretty new players`
`21:03.22`	`david_v`	`yes, or just inactive`
`21:03.28`	`learner`	`~quol`
`21:04.19`	`learner`	`[dmp]: stats haven't changed in like 2-3 days.. you've had connection problems for that long??`
`21:05.05`	`[dmp]`	`learner: you really shoudlnt use the ladder every day :-)`
`21:05.19`	`[dmp]`	`Its free as in beer, and i havnt gotten any :)`
`21:05.20`	`prot-work`	`'tis a good soundtrack`
`21:05.36`	`learner`	`oh I don't use it at all :) just curious how the durations settle out`
`21:05.54`	`david_v`	`[dmp]: maybe there is where you could get the money for your memory? ;) my only requirement is you make a little "exception" in the script :) or two :)`
`21:06.05`	`[dmp]`	`But I got the new memory, so its running. And ladders are updated each hour again`
`21:06.21`	`[dmp]`	`that is, if my isp likes to give my internet and dns service.`
`21:06.42`	`[dmp]`	`david_v: You can't afford it :)`
`21:07.03`	`[dmp]`	`hehe`
`21:07.03`	`JBDiGriz`	`learner: Where did you find me at #1. I can only find myself on quol, and I'm #1 there but way behind everywhere else.`
`21:07.12`	`[dmp]`	`ladder-scripts thinks all servers are down :)`
`21:07.24`	`prot-work`	`where is the ladder?`
`21:07.27`	`learner`	`jb: that's what I mean -- top duration leader on quol :)`
`21:07.37`	`[dmp]`	`prot-work: ladder.bzflag.org`
`21:07.42`	`learner`	`or http://bzflag.baat.dk/new/`
`21:07.42`	`prot-work`	`makes sense`
`21:07.58`	`JBDiGriz`	`That's hardly a feat considering it's only been up for a couple of weeks, and I like quol!`
`21:08.26`	`learner`	`hehe, i find it humorous :)`
`21:08.58`	`JBDiGriz`	`Also notice that there are a number of ProXS people on that list. (clue for the less observant)`
`21:09.30`	`learner`	`wopa! they're all mostly active now`
`21:09.40`	`[dmp]`	`learner: Forced 'em to :)`
`21:09.59`	`[dmp]`	`learner: otherwise it waits 10-15 mins before retrying to get data. No reason for that.`
`21:12.47`	`JBDiGriz`	`That's curious, has one of the rebels been playing as "JayBee"?`
`21:13.13`	`learner`	`a rebel?`
`21:13.25`	`JBDiGriz`	`As in the BZ Rebels.....`
`21:13.41`	`learner`	`heh, i figured that much out`
`21:13.52`	`JBDiGriz`	`That's definitely been used as a reference to me by one of the rebels. ;-)`
`21:14.05`	`learner`	`yes.. chika calls you that`
`21:14.19`	`learner`	`i've not known her to ever use that name, though`
`21:14.29`	`JBDiGriz`	`And someone is on the ladders with that callsign. Hmmm?`
`21:14.30`	`learner`	`but who knows`
`21:14.45`	`learner`	`ah -- I did see that, dunno who that is/was`
`21:14.53`	`learner`	`i figured it was you`
`21:15.31`	`JBDiGriz`	`At this time, I am prepared to disavow any knowledge of said circumstance.`
`21:15.55`	`[dmp]`	`david, you still here?`
`21:16.03`	`david_v`	`hmmm`
`21:16.25`	`david_v`	`ok then`
`21:16.59`	`[dmp]`	`david_v: Benson-problem, is that he cannot open team for new members? (because he cannot change status, when he got less than 3 members) ?`
`21:17.46`	`david_v`	`yah`
`21:18.09`	`david_v`	`Chestal said something about doing a manual database hack for TAF before in a similar issue`
`21:18.23`	`[dmp]`	`Yeah, but than does fix the problem :)`
`21:18.23`	`david_v`	`after the team "shrunk", as he expressed it. i don't remember the history though`
`21:18.37`	`[dmp]`	`did people leave, or did he kick them?`
`21:18.48`	`david_v`	`well as i said i don't know`
`21:22.43`	`david_v`	`bbiab`
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`21:25.04`	`[dmp]`	`heh, proxs is till using my xmas/new-year logo .. with greeting :)`
`21:28.48`	`JBDiGriz`	`We're going to change it as soon as we get around to it. (Procrastination Excess ;-)`
`21:29.10`	`[dmp]`	`I think Iluxa got the source-photoshop file`
`21:30.01`	`[dmp]`	`.. and its still on my server. :)`
`21:32.44`	`learner`	`saw DM last week`
`21:32.52`	`learner`	`no huh or duh, though`
`21:32.59`	`JBDiGriz`	`I've been playing with DM and huh fairly regularly. Iluxa is just getting back to bz, and walleye has been practicing with us occasionally.`
`21:33.17`	`JBDiGriz`	`;-) has been on the ffa sites most recently.`
`21:34.50`	`JBDiGriz`	`[dmp]: What is your criteria?`
`21:35.43`	`learner`	`hehe`
`21:36.03`	`[dmp]`	`JBDiGriz: More info/stories from the matrix universe. And perhaps use it too see if anime is something i should look into`
`21:36.34`	`learner`	`[dmp]: then you should get it, me thinks`
`21:37.01`	`JBDiGriz`	`The stories are good, although I wonder if some of them are an afterthought. I've never been a huge fan of anime, so check with patlabor221 or someone else with more "sophisticated" taste.`
`21:37.45`	`learner`	`"Experience the prequel to The Matrix and learn about the last cities of mankind, the war with the machines and humanity's ultimate downfall. Witness the Final Flight of the Osiris, which sets the stage for The Matrix Reloaded...'`
`21:38.58`	`[dmp]`	`Anime is pricy. I think i'll buy it, and see what happens :-)`
`21:38.59`	`patlabor221`	`the animatrix is good`
`21:39.19`	`[dmp]`	`(except, animatrix, its half price of normal movie-dvds)`
`21:39.24`	`patlabor221`	`the prequil is only part of it`
`21:39.45`	`patlabor221`	`the animatrix is a number of short stories writen by the 2 brothers`
`21:40.01`	`patlabor221`	`the CD is good`
`21:40.05`	`patlabor221`	`listen to supermoves :)`
`21:40.23`	`patlabor221`	`and just watch Beyond OVER AND OVER AND OVER again :)`
`21:40.30`	`learner`	`heh`
`21:40.53`	`patlabor221`	`the animatrix is not typical of most anime tho`
`21:41.02`	`patlabor221`	`it's more of the 'festival' style`
`21:41.12`	`patlabor221`	`like robot carnival`
`21:41.41`	`patlabor221`	`just go watch cowboy beebop and macross plus and all will be well :)`
`21:41.43`	`[dmp]`	`What would you recommend for a newbie, that have no knowledge for anime/the culture`
`21:41.52`	`learner`	`Ghost in the Shell -- personal fav`
`21:41.52`	`patlabor221`	`ether of those`
`21:42.01`	`patlabor221`	`yeah GITS is good`
`21:42.05`	`patlabor221`	`tho it's a one shot`
`21:42.32`	`patlabor221`	`cowboy beebop is what I make people who don't like anime watch, so they like anime :)`
`21:42.35`	`learner`	`which is what makes it even better :)`
`21:43.04`	`patlabor221`	`Mac+ is only 4 eps so it's short but very very well done`
`21:43.10`	`patlabor221`	`cap even likes the music :)`
`21:43.22`	`patlabor221`	`Spirited Away is a good famialy tale`
`21:43.27`	`learner`	`[dmp] gits came out in '95 i believe`
`21:43.51`	`prot-work`	`hrm`
`21:44.05`	`JBDiGriz`	`I watched Spirited Away, and the story was good, but the animation wasn't spectacular.`
`21:44.45`	`prot-work`	`JBDiGriz: parts were more spectacular than others..`
`21:44.49`	`prot-work`	`those train tracks.....`
`21:44.50`	`learner`	`jbdigriz: really? it received a bit of hype last year at siggraph`
`21:45.25`	`JBDiGriz`	`I watched it since it won the Oscar, and I'm usually impressed by the technical Oscars.`
`21:46.08`	`JBDiGriz`	`Some of it was very good, but it didn't exceed my expectations.`
`21:46.43`	`learner`	`it was a big mesh of hand-drawn 2d and computer generated 3d -- apparently quite a feat`
`21:47.11`	`prot-work`	`i'm more impressed by that one animatrix one that was so spectacular`
`21:47.17`	`prot-work`	`which was apparently 40% 3d`
`21:47.23`	`JBDiGriz`	`I was also surprised that "Finding Nemo" wasn't a huge leap forward like previous Pixar films.`
`21:47.43`	`prot-work`	`JBDiGriz: naw, but crs was in the credits!`
`21:48.06`	`learner`	`it was all about the fluid model`
`21:48.15`	`JBDiGriz`	`I have to watch for him when I see it again. Is he working for Pixar or one of the subs?`
`21:48.22`	`prot-work`	`he's working for pixar`
`21:48.26`	`prot-work`	`studio tools`
`21:48.30`	`learner`	`there were 4 separate fluid models in there`
`21:49.00`	`JBDiGriz`	`I know several people who have been in the pixar credits from papers they have given at Usenix.`
`21:49.02`	`learner`	`the subtle difference in realizm is actually rather impressive when you see it composited`
`21:49.17`	`patlabor221`	`lain is good but could be confiusing for a first time thing`
`21:49.25`	`patlabor221`	`beebop will get ya hooked :)`
`21:49.44`	`patlabor221`	`prot-work have you seen the movie yet?`
`21:49.45`	`JBDiGriz`	`learner: That was the most impressive part of the animation in Nemo.`
`21:49.58`	`prot-work`	`patlabor221: bebop movie? no`
`21:50.08`	`prot-work`	`all the theaters that were showing it were dubbed`
`21:50.12`	`prot-work`	`and bebop in english is crappy`
`21:50.28`	`patlabor221`	`learner or jbd, I have a number of animes riped if your interestind`
`21:50.40`	`prot-work`	`navi has a nice anime directory :)`
`21:50.42`	`patlabor221`	`I feel the english voice actors for beebop are rather good`
`21:50.47`	`patlabor221`	`yes navi does`
`21:51.32`	`prot-work`	`all the new parts for navi have arrived`
`21:51.57`	`patlabor221`	`http://bakadigital.com/darkmoor-noshare/movie/`
`21:53.06`	`patlabor221`	`blackmagic and dominion are done by the gits guy`
`21:53.42`	`tea\|tree_`	`hey girls`
`21:54.07`	`[dmp]`	`hi tea`
`21:54.30`	`[dmp]`	`Or hot dark liquid, somehow bitter. :-)`
`21:57.40`	`JBDiGriz`	`The bitterness depends on how many hops and what kinds you add to the brew.`
`21:58.12`	`JBDiGriz`	`I'll throw that in as well!`
`21:59.48`	`JBDiGriz`	`patlabor221: On this POC game, does the client send position information, velocity, or acceleration?`
`22:00.09`	`learner`	`or yes`
`22:00.09`	`patlabor221`	`yes, liniar and rotational`
`22:00.25`	`patlabor221`	`and what time the sample was taken`
`22:02.21`	`JBDiGriz`	`Does the server then pass all of these to the other clients?`
`22:02.26`	`patlabor221`	`yes`
`22:02.37`	`patlabor221`	`so it's a bit more data`
`22:02.58`	`learner`	`why acceleration? server can't reliably compute it?`
`22:03.08`	`JBDiGriz`	`So the client does all the calculations, but the server has the information for verification.`
`22:04.23`	`patlabor221`	`both do the calcs`
`22:04.43`	`patlabor221`	`the server can send out updates and the clients can comp for the error`
`22:04.47`	`patlabor221`	`the server state is authoritive`
`22:05.53`	`JBDiGriz`	`Does the client compensate gradually?`
`22:06.22`	`patlabor221`	`dosn't do anything yet`
`22:06.30`	`patlabor221`	`I am thinking of just making it snap`
`22:06.38`	`patlabor221`	`cus anything else is a lie`
`22:06.49`	`patlabor221`	`and for non cheaters with good connections the delta should be small`
`22:07.26`	`JBDiGriz`	`That's what I was wondering, although I would be curious how much of a delta would be measured against various network connections.`
`22:07.48`	`patlabor221`	`one of the many reasons for making the testing app`
`22:08.05`	`prot-work`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:08.14`	`patlabor221`	`Network Virtual Enviroments`
`22:36.42`	`bzgirl`	`what player plays avi's in linux?`
`22:42.31`	`[dmp]`	`xine`
`22:42.42`	`[dmp]`	`there is a package with microsoft-codecs`
`22:43.07`	`learner`	`[dmp] was holding a mad fort together on ducati!`
`22:43.26`	`learner`	`mplayer does, I believe bzg`
`22:43.33`	`JBDiGriz`	`learner: ??? What's a mad fort?`
`22:43.38`	`prot-work`	`xine, mplayer...they're all the same`
`22:44.15`	`learner`	`he was a 1-man fort`
`22:44.23`	`learner`	`held his tank together pretty tight`
`22:44.55`	`[dmp]`	`Stimorol; when you can dodge :-)`
`22:44.58`	`[dmp]`	`cant even`
`22:45.12`	`[dmp]`	`Doh.`
`22:45.16`	`[dmp]`	`But it was a fun match :)`
`22:45.30`	`[dmp]`	`Both team worked pretty well.`
`22:45.43`	`JBDiGriz`	`What was the final score?`
`22:47.26`	`[dmp]`	`it was on 5156 - the (almost) never ending game.`
`22:49.49`	`JBDiGriz`	`~d`
`22:50.11`	`JBDiGriz`	`~weather ksan`
`22:50.36`	`learner`	`jb: grr`
`22:51.14`	`learner`	`79 with 64% would be nice!`
`22:51.45`	`JBDiGriz`	`We need to have ibot learn the affordability indices for these areas. Then you could respond! ;-)`
`22:52.37`	`JBDiGriz`	`~governor california`
`22:53.13`	`JBDiGriz`	`Hmmm, ibot is speechless over that one as well!`
`22:53.19`	`learner`	`heh`
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`23:08.28`	`KR`	`hi all`
`23:09.24`	`[dmp]`	`Hi Kr`
`23:23.27`	`patlabor221`	`dbtp:// :)`
`23:26.22`	`tea\|tree_`	`~`
`23:26.30`	`tea\|tree_`	`~d`
`23:35.49`	`tea\|tree_`	`patty?`
`23:36.00`	`tea\|tree_`	patlabor221`?
`23:46.27`	`patlabor221`	`yes`
`23:46.29`	`patlabor221`	`hello`
`23:46.32`	`patlabor221`	`hi`
`23:46.36`	`patlabor221`	`how's it going`
`23:46.44`	`patlabor221`	`what's happening`
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