| 00:06.26 | tea|tree | ZzzZz-- |
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| 00:11.03 | Chikorita | peeople |
| 00:11.27 | Chikorita | peeple dey get tagether ... |
| 00:11.34 | Chikorita | cuz wee r all made of stars |
| 00:11.39 | Chikorita | nheehe |
| 00:11.55 | Chikorita | dat was sum moby 4 yall |
| 00:11.59 | Chikorita | ;) |
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| 00:19.45 | tea|tree | bryjen hello |
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| 00:47.07 | fiberchunks | damn, I'm angry |
| 00:48.07 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 00:49.05 | fiberchunks | pool has become a game of pansies and idiots, apparently (I suppose it only applies to bar pool though) |
| 00:49.17 | fiberchunks | though I haven't played 'real' pool in a while (4.5' x 9') |
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| 01:03.06 | tea|tree | fiber? |
| 01:03.08 | tea|tree | eeeh |
| 01:03.10 | tea|tree | Patty? |
| 01:03.24 | tea|tree | fiberchunks ore Patlabor221? |
| 01:05.05 | fiberchunks | yes, what? |
| 01:05.20 | tea|tree | i have made 10 beers in one lline |
| 01:05.33 | tea|tree | want it for forum? |
| 01:05.35 | Patlabor221 | that's too much beer |
| 01:05.41 | tea|tree | gosh |
| 01:05.47 | Patlabor221 | for one line |
| 01:05.49 | fiberchunks | indeed -- you may not supersede my beer |
| 01:05.56 | Patlabor221 | you'd have to at least pee |
| 01:06.03 | tea|tree | pardon? |
| 01:06.04 | Patlabor221 | fiberchunks now as _MAX_BEER |
| 01:06.26 | Patlabor221 | yeah I See how you could fit 10 |
| 01:06.33 | Patlabor221 | but that's just silly |
| 01:06.41 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> look up w3cam |
| 01:06.51 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 01:06.59 | Patlabor221 | look at your beers now |
| 01:07.20 | tea|tree | fiber want 10 bottles of beer ore 10 glasses |
| 01:07.33 | Patlabor221 | presently he haas 16 beers |
| 01:07.41 | Patlabor221 | so 10 would be less |
| 01:08.06 | tea|tree | 16 i wont get in |
| 01:08.19 | Patlabor221 | not true |
| 01:08.20 | Patlabor221 | go look |
| 01:08.44 | fiberchunks | good for you, mr. math man ;) |
| 01:08.52 | Patlabor221 | fiber I looked at that, it's a bit difrent then I want |
| 01:08.59 | fiberchunks | why? |
| 01:09.00 | Patlabor221 | that runs a webserver that hosts live cam feeds |
| 01:09.14 | Patlabor221 | just want something that will snap |
| 01:09.22 | Patlabor221 | like every hour |
| 01:09.37 | fiberchunks | much better, thanks |
| 01:09.43 | fiberchunks | you sure? |
| 01:09.45 | fiberchunks | hrm |
| 01:09.46 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:10.12 | Patlabor221 | cus the computer won't allways be on |
| 01:10.22 | Patlabor221 | so I just want it to snap when it's on |
| 01:10.35 | Patlabor221 | since w3cam runs a server if the comp was of it would 404 |
| 01:10.43 | fiberchunks | how bout camstream, CAMe, gqcam, camsource, or SDLcam |
| 01:11.04 | Patlabor221 | where do you find this shit? |
| 01:11.15 | tea|tree | good night all |
| 01:11.16 | fiberchunks | emerge -s cam << thank you gentoo ;) |
| 01:11.20 | fiberchunks | gnite tea|tree |
| 01:11.21 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 01:11.22 | tea|tree | 3:11 AM here |
| 01:11.28 | Patlabor221 | see yah tea|tree |
| 01:11.33 | fiberchunks | 2115 here |
| 01:11.36 | tea|tree | :o( |
| 01:11.41 | tea|tree | pigs |
| 01:11.43 | tea|tree | ^^ |
| 01:15.56 | Patlabor221 | time to install some sound drivers for the pimp mobo sound |
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| 01:21.38 | doughecka | hey Patlabor221 |
| 01:21.43 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 01:23.24 | tea|tree | i should go to bed |
| 01:24.04 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> http://www.exploits.org/v4l/ |
| 01:25.20 | fiberchunks | what kind of camera is it again? exact make / model, please |
| 01:25.26 | fiberchunks | or driver that you use for it |
| 01:27.42 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> gqcam is your ticket, imho -- if you have the proper camera |
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| 01:32.44 | fiberchunks | allo? |
| 01:32.49 | fiberchunks | ping? anyone? |
| 01:33.40 | fiberchunks | no, just ignored ;) |
| 01:33.44 | Patlabor221 | sorry |
| 01:33.51 | Patlabor221 | working on sound on windows PC |
| 01:33.53 | fiberchunks | np, just joshin |
| 01:33.57 | Patlabor221 | need to turn on the dig out |
| 01:34.52 | fiberchunks | check out gqcam, if you have the right camera (and it may work with others), it is cli-able, and therefore easily scriptable |
| 01:35.51 | fiberchunks | you may also be able to use gphoto/gphoto2 -- it is cli-able, and has a 'capture image' command |
| 01:35.59 | Patlabor221 | tyring to build it now |
| 01:36.01 | siggraph | pong |
| 01:36.35 | doughecka | h |
| 01:36.36 | doughecka | ah |
| 01:37.22 | fiberchunks | seems like: $gqcam -v /path/to/vid/device -d <filename> (dunno if it's .extension specific though, though that's easy to fix with a little 'convert' scriptage |
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| 01:44.31 | Patlabor221 | well it does work |
| 01:44.35 | Patlabor221 | now to make the script |
| 01:44.51 | fiberchunks | should be simple -- just vi camscript |
| 01:44.58 | fiberchunks | #!/bin/bash |
| 01:45.19 | fiberchunks | DIR=/path/where/you/want/stuff/stored |
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| 01:45.42 | fiberchunks | gqcam -v /video/device -d $DIR/blahblah.whatever |
| 01:46.24 | fiberchunks | nevermind that $DIR/blahblah.whatever -- do this $DIR/`date +%s`.whatever |
| 01:46.54 | Patlabor221 | can I have scp take my password in the command line? |
| 01:47.11 | fiberchunks | I don't see why not, though I am at a loss how to do it |
| 01:47.19 | bzdoug | hah, I know ssh wont |
| 01:47.43 | fiberchunks | you could pipe std out, and send the password, though that may be silly |
| 01:48.00 | Patlabor221 | dosn't seem to be a -p option |
| 01:48.03 | bzdoug | you have to setup authenticated keys on both sides, doesnt take but 5 mins |
| 01:48.13 | fiberchunks | ah yes, that's it |
| 01:48.31 | Patlabor221 | how would I pipe the script to stdin on scp |
| 01:48.33 | bzdoug | which, by the way, doesnt work on the XP openssh server :) |
| 01:48.46 | Patlabor221 | doug, do you have ANY clue what I'm doing? |
| 01:49.02 | Patlabor221 | well I haven't set up auth |
| 01:49.03 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> nono, listen to doug (believe it or not) - there's a way to do ssh / scp _without_ entering your password all the time, he is correct |
| 01:49.08 | Patlabor221 | I know |
| 01:49.12 | Patlabor221 | I don't want to set that up |
| 01:49.15 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 01:49.32 | Patlabor221 | asgard isn't set up for that I don't think |
| 01:50.07 | Patlabor221 | I could ftp it |
| 01:50.20 | fiberchunks | I believe it's a matter of per-user auth, that doesn't really depend on ssh per se, but checks for valid keys during the handshake portion with a client |
| 01:50.28 | fiberchunks | indeed |
| 01:50.34 | Patlabor221 | ok then how is that set up? |
| 01:50.44 | bzdoug | there are tutorials... /me googles |
| 01:50.46 | fiberchunks | what, no pass ssh? or ftp? |
| 01:50.57 | Patlabor221 | the key shit |
| 01:51.02 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:51.11 | fiberchunks | dunno, I've never done it |
| 01:51.25 | fiberchunks | but it is a 'Good Thing To Know' (tm) |
| 01:51.27 | fiberchunks | imho |
| 01:51.32 | bzdoug | http://www.linux.ie/archive/msg09.html |
| 01:51.57 | bzdoug | basicly you run ssh-keygen, then copy your public key to the server |
| 01:52.06 | Patlabor221 | where on the server? |
| 01:52.22 | bzdoug | Appending identity.pub to $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys of any account on |
| 01:52.22 | bzdoug | any computer |
| 01:52.30 | fiberchunks | in your ~/.ssh-keys or some such I imaging |
| 01:52.35 | fiberchunks | imagine* |
| 01:54.13 | bzdoug | the link explains all, ssh it rather cool for stuff like that |
| 01:54.33 | Patlabor221 | yeah but it's horibly layed out |
| 01:54.39 | Patlabor221 | and generaly dosn't work |
| 01:56.26 | bzdoug | heres another, easyer to read version http://kimmo.suominen.com/ssh/#authorize |
| 01:58.29 | Patlabor221 | yeah it's wrong too |
| 01:58.51 | fiberchunks | they put fortune in a bizarre place |
| 01:58.57 | fiberchunks | that's why it wouldn't work before |
| 01:59.01 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 01:59.04 | Patlabor221 | was it installed? |
| 02:01.27 | fiberchunks | indeed -- just in /usr/games/fortune, instead of /usr/bin, where it should be (or /usr/local/bin |
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| 02:01.45 | SGI | hello |
| 02:01.58 | SGI | nice avatar Fiber |
| 02:02.08 | Patlabor221 | how would I pipe the script into ftp? |
| 02:02.09 | fiberchunks | so, you either have to add a bit of path voodoo to ~/.bashrc, or modify the nanoblogger/plugins/fortune.sh script |
| 02:02.23 | Patlabor221 | can't do a symlink fiber? |
| 02:02.26 | fiberchunks | hrm |
| 02:02.30 | fiberchunks | I suppose so |
| 02:02.36 | Patlabor221 | seems the simplest way |
| 02:03.59 | fiberchunks | yeah, there's a symlink now -- should be kosher |
| 02:04.07 | bzgirl | hi SGI |
| 02:04.13 | SGI | hi |
| 02:04.19 | Patlabor221 | hi |
| 02:04.26 | bzdoug | hi |
| 02:04.41 | fiberchunks | bzgirl -- fiddle with fortune on yer page -- should work now -- read the script to figgur out where to slap the html on yer page template ;) |
| 02:04.45 | fiberchunks | hi! |
| 02:04.46 | fiberchunks | and thanks |
| 02:04.51 | SGI | stop with hi ..its like a screaming |
| 02:05.05 | bzgirl | :) |
| 02:05.08 | SGI | thanks for what |
| 02:05.09 | bryjen | hiiiiiiiyah! |
| 02:05.11 | fiberchunks | hello |
| 02:05.13 | fiberchunks | hey there |
| 02:05.15 | bzgirl | hey |
| 02:05.18 | fiberchunks | koni'chiwa |
| 02:05.26 | fiberchunks | guten abend/morgen/tag |
| 02:05.40 | fiberchunks | bonne nuit! |
| 02:05.44 | fiberchunks | allo |
| 02:05.45 | fiberchunks | 'lo |
| 02:05.48 | fiberchunks | whaz up? |
| 02:05.52 | bzdoug | hallo! |
| 02:05.53 | fiberchunks | whaz happonin? |
| 02:06.01 | bzdoug | moin |
| 02:06.01 | fiberchunks | : |
| 02:06.03 | SGI | to beerr |
| 02:06.08 | fiberchunks | :\ me gets tired |
| 02:06.13 | fiberchunks | and drinks beer |
| 02:06.34 | SGI | s |
| 02:09.50 | Patlabor221 | trying to figure out how to pipe from the script to a program it calls |
| 02:10.42 | bryjen | ( echo this ; echo that ; echo someother ) | program |
| 02:10.54 | Patlabor221 | kewl |
| 02:11.00 | fiberchunks | ah goody, a bash d00d |
| 02:13.03 | bzdoug | error: cant write to /dev/null |
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| 02:15.52 | Patlabor221 | yeah they take a while |
| 02:16.08 | fiberchunks | indeed |
| 02:16.23 | Patlabor221 | hmm the echo thing didn't seem to work |
| 02:17.23 | fiberchunks | try getting it to work from a single command line first; i.e. $ftp -userblah -passfoo somehost.somedomain; cd /stored/directory; put someimage.foo |
| 02:17.43 | fiberchunks | it's hackish, but it should work something like that, I imagine |
| 02:17.48 | Patlabor221 | ftp and ssh don't take that stuff on the command line |
| 02:17.53 | fiberchunks | really? |
| 02:18.00 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:18.14 | Patlabor221 | it works now but it just asks for the password |
| 02:18.18 | Patlabor221 | see evil picture |
| 02:19.21 | Patlabor221 | I have (echo pass;) | scp /local/file.png me@remote.host:/remote/dir/ |
| 02:19.54 | bryjen | ahh |
| 02:19.59 | doughecka | you have to add a delay and put a return, dont ya? |
| 02:20.05 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:20.08 | bryjen | you can probly do without the () and ; |
| 02:20.22 | fiberchunks | try scp with -B specified -- see man scp for details |
| 02:20.48 | bryjen | i think youd need keys then |
| 02:20.55 | fiberchunks | perhaps |
| 02:21.32 | Patlabor221 | it seems I just made my keys where do I put it on the remote? |
| 02:21.48 | fiberchunks | there should be a ~/.ssh ~/.ssh-keys or some such voodoo |
| 02:22.02 | doughecka | $home/.ssh I believe |
| 02:22.09 | doughecka | in authenticated-keys |
| 02:22.29 | bryjen | append the line in identity.pub to $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 02:22.48 | doughecka | just look for a .ssh* folder, then cat public.key >> authorized_keys |
| 02:23.08 | fiberchunks | oooo, conflicting info, my favorite kind ;) |
| 02:23.28 | doughecka | hes rite :P |
| 02:25.24 | Patlabor221 | so what if I don't have any of those files |
| 02:25.35 | doughecka | make them :) |
| 02:25.59 | bryjen | generating keys should make $HOME/.ssh/identity.pub where you are |
| 02:26.17 | doughecka | (client side)^ |
| 02:26.48 | Patlabor221 | it didn't |
| 02:27.00 | bryjen | what's in .ssh/ ? |
| 02:27.07 | Patlabor221 | it made id_dsa.pub |
| 02:27.16 | bryjen | Ah DSA instead of RSA |
| 02:27.18 | Patlabor221 | I think it's the same thing |
| 02:27.33 | bryjen | yup |
| 02:27.33 | Patlabor221 | yeah ssh2 |
| 02:27.45 | doughecka | yea, depends on what you tell ssh-keygen to make |
| 02:28.00 | Patlabor221 | all my machines are ssh2 only |
| 02:28.08 | bryjen | and the auth file won't exist on the server if you've never used it. just copy the .pub file there and rename it |
| 02:28.23 | doughecka | good thing, since ssh can be sniffed and unencrypted in realtime :) |
| 02:30.44 | fiberchunks | for no good reason |
| 02:30.58 | fiberchunks | there, fortune now works |
| 02:31.26 | Patlabor221 | it does :) |
| 02:31.37 | Patlabor221 | it works, I mean not the crap part :) |
| 02:32.07 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 02:32.22 | Patlabor221 | I have the pub file there renamed and it's not working |
| 02:33.26 | fiberchunks | so, what am I supposed to do? ssh-keygen on my personal machine? |
| 02:33.32 | bryjen | in $HOME/.ssh/ as authorized_keys ? and all this stuff needs to be chmod go="" |
| 02:34.45 | doughecka | no, you wouldnt |
| 02:34.47 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:35.51 | Patlabor221 | yeah it's right, I took it right from here |
| 02:36.06 | fiberchunks | how do I specify which protocol version to create a public key ? |
| 02:36.17 | bryjen | man ssh-keygen |
| 02:36.24 | Patlabor221 | -t dsa |
| 02:36.47 | Patlabor221 | ssh-keygen -b 1024 -t dsa is what I did |
| 02:36.50 | fiberchunks | thanks bryjen, that's what I was looking at when I asked -- I noticed you can specify rsa for ssh(2) as well, though |
| 02:36.59 | fiberchunks | :\ |
| 02:37.12 | fiberchunks | well, then, that's what I'll do |
| 02:37.37 | doughecka | check your ssh settings |
| 02:37.44 | doughecka | ssh server |
| 02:37.48 | bryjen | any messages to clue us about what's failing patlabor221 ? |
| 02:37.57 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 02:38.07 | Patlabor221 | it just asks for the password when I scp still |
| 02:38.13 | bryjen | erg. |
| 02:38.15 | fiberchunks | should I generate that on the remote, or my local machine? |
| 02:38.23 | doughecka | local |
| 02:38.26 | Patlabor221 | locak |
| 02:38.30 | Patlabor221 | so the server knows it's you |
| 02:38.31 | fiberchunks | my local, and then copy it to ~/.ssh/id_pub or whatever -- gotcha |
| 02:38.44 | bryjen | did you use the -i option with scp ? |
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| 02:39.34 | bryjen | err, since its using the default file names, i don't think you _should_ have too.... |
| 02:40.05 | Patlabor221 | what would I put in there for the identity? |
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| 02:40.15 | doughecka | cat /.ssh/*.pub >> /.ssh/authorized_keys I think |
| 02:40.26 | bryjen | ~/.ssh/id_dsa < the private key part |
| 02:40.34 | Patlabor221 | doug, the files don't exist on the server, so why cat? |
| 02:40.46 | doughecka | first copy the files to the server. |
| 02:40.57 | Patlabor221 | again why cat? |
| 02:41.03 | Patlabor221 | to an empty file |
| 02:41.14 | fiberchunks | it'll append it to that file |
| 02:41.16 | doughecka | it appends it to the end, just incase it has keys in there |
| 02:41.19 | bryjen | ooooh. my ssh came with a ssh-copy-id script. cool |
| 02:41.19 | fiberchunks | that's what the >> is for |
| 02:41.35 | doughecka | bryjen: no! dont say its true! :) |
| 02:42.38 | Patlabor221 | I wonder if it's cus my username here is difrent then it is there |
| 02:42.58 | bryjen | i'm not sure if the .pub file has to exist on the server too or if its good enough to have the data in auth_keys |
| 02:43.14 | doughecka | well, do you use ssh USER@DOMAIN? or just domain? |
| 02:43.23 | Patlabor221 | user@domain |
| 02:43.29 | bryjen | can can spec user@host |
| 02:43.37 | fiberchunks | hrm -- so: I have done ssh-keygen blah blah blah on my local machine; scp'd ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub to ~/.ssh/ on the remote machine; cat'd id_dsa.pub >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on remote, tried an ssh blah@blah.com -- and still prompted for login pass |
| 02:43.53 | bryjen | hmm |
| 02:44.04 | Patlabor221 | I set the perms you said too |
| 02:44.07 | Patlabor221 | and still no go |
| 02:44.14 | bryjen | you didn't put a "passphrase" on the keyfile did you? |
| 02:44.24 | Patlabor221 | I just hit enter |
| 02:44.25 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:44.33 | Patlabor221 | to leave it blank |
| 02:44.34 | fiberchunks | oh, indeed :\ |
| 02:44.52 | bryjen | yes. blank or itll prompt for that instead of password :( |
| 02:46.35 | fiberchunks | after I get this going, I may :) |
| 02:46.35 | bryjen | you might check your syslogs on the server to see if sshd is spitting any messages there |
| 02:46.53 | bryjen | fiberchunks: do you have ssh-copy-id ? |
| 02:47.00 | Patlabor221 | well since I'm not going to the movies with the lady tongiht, I'll let you all bang on this for a bit, and make some dinner :) |
| 02:47.02 | fiberchunks | shoot, just regened -- scp'd it over -- still asks me for passphrase -- lemme try sumthin |
| 02:47.43 | fiberchunks | dammit |
| 02:47.54 | fiberchunks | bryjen> dunno, lemme check |
| 02:48.12 | fiberchunks | don't look like it no |
| 02:48.21 | fiberchunks | doug! where's that link you posted a while ago? |
| 02:49.05 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:49.13 | doughecka | http://kimmo.suominen.com/ssh/#authorize |
| 02:49.16 | bryjen | heh. looking at my ssh-copy-id, its a bash script that basically does the steps we've listed |
| 02:49.19 | doughecka | http://www.linux.ie/archive/msg09.html |
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| 02:49.51 | doughecka | ok, copyed it to my router... |
| 02:50.32 | fiberchunks | well, that sucks |
| 02:50.40 | fiberchunks | -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa didn't work |
| 02:51.05 | doughecka | authorized_keys right? |
| 02:51.12 | bryjen | error or silent death? |
| 02:51.41 | bryjen | or just password prompt still? |
| 02:51.55 | doughecka | ok |
| 02:52.55 | doughecka | Trying public key authentication. |
| 02:52.55 | doughecka | Key is of wrong type (OpenSSH SSH2 private key) |
| 02:52.59 | doughecka | thats DSA |
| 02:53.08 | fiberchunks | ah, me thinks that sshd needs a bit of config voodoo to get this working right |
| 02:53.23 | fiberchunks | just password prompt |
| 02:53.47 | bryjen | auth via keys can be disabled, i believe |
| 02:54.04 | doughecka | yea, bedefault it is on windows |
| 02:54.39 | doughecka | nm, that was a rsa key |
| 02:55.19 | doughecka | huh, then again, maybe dsa is wrong too :\ |
| 02:55.35 | Patlabor221 | so where is the config on the server side? |
| 02:55.37 | Patlabor221 | I can check that |
| 02:55.42 | bzgirl | sshd |
| 02:55.44 | fiberchunks | /etc/ssh/sshd |
| 02:55.46 | fiberchunks | iirc |
| 02:55.47 | bryjen | sshd_config |
| 02:55.57 | fiberchunks | depends on the distro :\ |
| 02:56.02 | doughecka | aha, putty has issues with my keys :( |
| 02:56.28 | doughecka | hah |
| 02:56.31 | doughecka | no password |
| 02:56.33 | doughecka | woo |
| 02:58.08 | Patlabor221 | hmm looks like PublickeyAUthentication is commented out on asgard |
| 02:58.24 | fiberchunks | uncomment it, and do service sshd restart |
| 02:58.27 | fiberchunks | we'll try that |
| 02:58.38 | bzgirl | but that will deny anyone witout a key |
| 02:58.44 | fiberchunks | good |
| 02:58.45 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 02:58.52 | bzgirl | like prot :) |
| 02:58.52 | bryjen | no |
| 02:58.57 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:59.13 | bryjen | not require keys, just allow them |
| 02:59.32 | bryjen | leave PasswordAuth set to yes too |
| 02:59.37 | fiberchunks | ah ah, ic your meaning |
| 02:59.38 | bzgirl | ahh ok |
| 03:00.05 | doughecka | woo, it worked |
| 03:00.07 | doughecka | on first try |
| 03:00.12 | doughecka | sweet :) |
| 03:00.18 | fiberchunks | hrm, /me wonders if perhaps it should be /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts we should be diddling with ? |
| 03:00.55 | bryjen | not nesescerily. there's a ~/.ssh/known_hosts too |
| 03:01.03 | doughecka | yea |
| 03:01.24 | doughecka | isnt that for auto authing a person if they match the domain? |
| 03:01.35 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 03:01.52 | Patlabor221 | fiber take a look a the config and see if I missed anything |
| 03:02.16 | bryjen | that just for auth'ing the machine. that HostA really is HostA |
| 03:02.31 | doughecka | ah |
| 03:02.43 | bryjen | the user can have their own, or the admin can set it up (in /etc) |
| 03:02.50 | doughecka | ah |
| 03:02.52 | doughecka | cool |
| 03:04.41 | Patlabor221 | I know fiber will find this disturbing, but there are no windows machines on at my house |
| 03:05.18 | fiberchunks | yay! |
| 03:05.59 | bryjen | ah. we have the anti-linux surrounded and are closing in :) |
| 03:06.09 | bzgirl | heh |
| 03:06.23 | doughecka | drop the EULA, slowly |
| 03:06.23 | Patlabor221 | opps a windows machine turned on |
| 03:06.24 | Patlabor221 | sorry |
| 03:06.39 | fiberchunks | hrm, I dunno -- looks ok, but /me is no sshd wizard :\ |
| 03:07.07 | Patlabor221 | the windows machine is geting as slick new set of digital only speakers |
| 03:07.17 | doughecka | oooh |
| 03:07.31 | doughecka | have to played the singing horses on them yet? |
| 03:07.44 | Patlabor221 | nothing yet |
| 03:07.50 | doughecka | ah |
| 03:07.57 | Patlabor221 | have to put in a SB live |
| 03:08.09 | doughecka | oh |
| 03:08.14 | Patlabor221 | as I don't have the spdif connector for the mobo |
| 03:08.22 | Patlabor221 | they are digtal only |
| 03:08.28 | doughecka | I see |
| 03:10.47 | captain_proton | wheebie |
| 03:11.01 | Patlabor221 | hey there's cap |
| 03:11.03 | Patlabor221 | he's smart |
| 03:11.09 | Patlabor221 | maybe he can help |
| 03:11.20 | fiberchunks | seems scp is not happy now :\ |
| 03:11.30 | Patlabor221 | what did you do? |
| 03:11.40 | fiberchunks | I did nothing |
| 03:11.41 | Patlabor221 | are you using dsa or rsa keys? |
| 03:11.46 | fiberchunks | what did YOU do ? ;) |
| 03:11.48 | doughecka | fiberchunks: lier |
| 03:11.49 | fiberchunks | dsa |
| 03:11.52 | doughecka | :) |
| 03:12.02 | Patlabor221 | what is the pub file named on the remote? |
| 03:12.03 | fiberchunks | ah, nm, there it went |
| 03:12.09 | Patlabor221 | damn |
| 03:12.19 | doughecka | lol |
| 03:12.26 | fiberchunks | urgh, still asking for my pass |
| 03:12.26 | Patlabor221 | cap, we are trying to set up passwordless ssh to asgard |
| 03:12.36 | bryjen | public key authentication |
| 03:12.42 | Patlabor221 | yeah that stuff |
| 03:12.54 | bryjen | one mouthfull or another |
| 03:13.01 | doughecka | bryjen is the man |
| 03:13.21 | Patlabor221 | maybe asgard isn't using 1024 bit keys |
| 03:13.32 | doughecka | btw does anyone know where noodlemans current location is? |
| 03:13.45 | fiberchunks | somewhere in the US, I wager |
| 03:13.51 | captain_proton | heh Patlabor221 |
| 03:13.56 | captain_proton | i just noticed your tagline on bzbb |
| 03:14.21 | bryjen | i dont think you have to tell it how long the users keys are |
| 03:14.23 | Patlabor221 | the rank? or the sig? |
| 03:14.49 | captain_proton | the rank |
| 03:15.06 | Patlabor221 | I forgot what it is |
| 03:15.20 | captain_proton | "just a bit sketchy" |
| 03:15.22 | doughecka | Patlabor221: shouldnt matter, public key auth works (I think) like this: public key is on server, privite is on client. connect to server, server encodes a random bit of info and sends it to the client, only the client can decode it with the privit key, so the client decodes it and sends it back, the server lets client in. |
| 03:16.07 | Patlabor221 | heh ohh yeah that one |
| 03:16.13 | Patlabor221 | doug, well something isn't working |
| 03:16.36 | doughecka | could I try? make me a user account and I will use my keys |
| 03:16.38 | captain_proton | tried running the client and/or server in verbose mode? |
| 03:16.46 | bryjen | anyone looked to see if sshd is logging anything ? |
| 03:17.11 | doughecka | bryjen: great minds think alick |
| 03:17.14 | doughecka | ;) |
| 03:18.03 | Patlabor221 | debug1: next auth method to try is publickey |
| 03:18.03 | Patlabor221 | debug1: try privkey: /home/jeffm/.ssh/identity |
| 03:18.03 | Patlabor221 | debug1: try privkey: /home/jeffm/.ssh/id_rsa |
| 03:18.03 | Patlabor221 | debug1: try pubkey: /home/jeffm/.ssh/id_dsa |
| 03:18.03 | Patlabor221 | debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive |
| 03:18.04 | Patlabor221 | debug1: next auth method to try is keyboard-interactive |
| 03:18.06 | Patlabor221 | debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive |
| 03:18.08 | Patlabor221 | debug1: next auth method to try is password |
| 03:18.10 | Patlabor221 | je |
| 03:18.41 | captain_proton | well, for one |
| 03:18.44 | captain_proton | turn off keyboard-interactive |
| 03:19.01 | Patlabor221 | how? |
| 03:19.08 | captain_proton | edit the sshd config |
| 03:19.25 | Patlabor221 | that means I have to key all my machines |
| 03:20.07 | Patlabor221 | mostly I just want it for this script so it can scp a file |
| 03:20.50 | bryjen | looks like its trying pubkey 1st anyways. having the others there _shouldnt_ hurt |
| 03:20.56 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 03:21.41 | bryjen | meebee sshd output would clue as to why those trys failed |
| 03:24.09 | Patlabor221 | hmm only thing I see in /var/log is secure and it just shows the accepted passwords |
| 03:24.10 | bryjen | lseek (2) and ye shall find (1) |
| 03:24.39 | captain_proton | the probable thing is bad perms on keys |
| 03:24.50 | bryjen | not enough -d on sshd |
| 03:24.58 | Patlabor221 | I did the chmod go="" |
| 03:25.04 | Patlabor221 | like brygen said |
| 03:25.26 | Patlabor221 | it need anything else? |
| 03:25.48 | bryjen | on the ~/.ssh/ dir and all the files therein ? |
| 03:25.54 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 03:25.57 | Patlabor221 | chmode -R |
| 03:26.02 | *** join/#bzflag ElectricElf (~david@CPE00a0cc23b80f-CM400049226055.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 03:26.05 | ElectricElf | Who runs xmission? |
| 03:26.11 | Patlabor221 | Tim Riker |
| 03:26.14 | ElectricElf | Patlabor221: Thakns. |
| 03:26.17 | bzgirl | hi EE |
| 03:26.20 | ElectricElf | He show up much here any more :) |
| 03:26.25 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: Hey there! :) You go to the concert? |
| 03:26.29 | Patlabor221 | usualy every day |
| 03:26.34 | bzgirl | nah, watched on tv |
| 03:26.56 | ElectricElf | Patlabor221: Great, thanks. |
| 03:27.06 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: Ack, it was a good party. |
| 03:27.18 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: Bit crowded though. |
| 03:27.43 | ElectricElf | Many good-looking young women though ;) |
| 03:27.43 | bzgirl | ElectricElf: you just got back? |
| 03:27.52 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: Yeah. Hitched a ride on one of the water trucks :) |
| 03:28.02 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: Most people are still waiting, I suspect. |
| 03:28.22 | bzgirl | yup my freinds called, theyre sitting in gridlock |
| 03:28.28 | ElectricElf | Not surprising :) |
| 03:28.41 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: ducati still active? |
| 03:28.58 | fiberchunks | hrmph |
| 03:29.04 | ElectricElf | fiberchunks: Hello :) |
| 03:29.10 | fiberchunks | allo elf :) |
| 03:29.14 | bzgirl | yup, and try Quols servers in Montreal, really fast |
| 03:29.27 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: I'm still on Rogers, so my lag probably isn't reasonable. |
| 03:29.55 | bzgirl | ElectricElf: his connection is insanely fast, try it |
| 03:29.58 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: Buddy of mine got magma, but he's on the Ottawa circuit. Need to find somebody on the Toronto network who'll let me poke at their machine. |
| 03:30.07 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: Sure. What's its name? |
| 03:30.22 | bzgirl | quol.bzflag.org i think |
| 03:30.26 | ElectricElf | Thanks. |
| 03:30.29 | bzgirl | "ducatii clone" |
| 03:30.35 | ElectricElf | Yeah, found it. |
| 03:31.09 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: You feel like logging on and checking me out? |
| 03:31.17 | bzgirl | ok |
| 03:31.30 | ElectricElf | Port 8083 |
| 03:31.33 | ElectricElf | Or there we go :) |
| 03:36.04 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: What's with the nick change? |
| 03:36.23 | bzgirl | oh it happened to be the last one i used |
| 03:36.27 | ElectricElf | Ah, allright. |
| 03:36.53 | bzgirl | dont CTCP VERSION me, it tickles ;) |
| 03:36.58 | ElectricElf | Oh baby :) |
| 03:37.21 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: If load is the issue with the jumping, then the solution would be to get a newer video card to replace my 16M TNT - I don't quite fancy killing cron :) |
| 03:37.26 | ElectricElf | (Think of the children! |
| 03:37.55 | bzgirl | ElectricElf: all i know is, lots of apps running = jumpy tank |
| 03:38.24 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: Allright allright. And you're running bzflag on a *nix box right? |
| 03:38.43 | bzgirl | yes |
| 03:38.49 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: Mind logging in again to watch? |
| 03:38.55 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: I'll kill a bunch of stuff. |
| 03:38.59 | bzgirl | ok |
| 03:39.03 | ElectricElf | K, be there in a minute. |
| 03:44.47 | bryjen | patlabor221: any progress ? |
| 03:45.09 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: Given the pain involved in switching providers, I need to be reasonably certain that I'm going to be getting better than what I've got now. |
| 03:45.28 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: My buddy in Guelph is paying for the 3.0/640 service, but most of his downloads are ~100Kb/s or so. |
| 03:45.50 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: Which at least in terms of downloading speed is rougly half what I have now, and about a quarter what Sympatico UHSE would get you. |
| 03:46.55 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: I could of course just go with Sympatico UHSE, but then when I finally do run into somebody who'll let me poke and prod their Toronto-network Magma connection, I may be blown away and then have to switch *again* ;) |
| 03:47.44 | bzgirl | what exactly does prod and poke entail? |
| 03:48.13 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: If it's ideal, just an account, nc(1) (Debian package "netcat"), and that's it. |
| 03:48.48 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: In my buddy's case, he also had some interest in what I was seeing, so I had him fire up iptraf and paste some results at me every second for a little bit. |
| 03:49.04 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: (Which I then interpreted.) |
| 03:53.05 | Patlabor221 | there got it to work with FTP :) |
| 03:53.13 | Patlabor221 | cat-cam script :) |
| 03:54.07 | bryjen | awww. no ssh-shing :( |
| 03:54.56 | bryjen | sh-ush-sh-ing |
| 03:55.18 | bzgirl | Patlabor221: be great if you point the cam at something |
| 03:55.23 | bzgirl | other than the floor |
| 03:55.47 | bryjen | you mean its not pointed at a cat ? cat cam :) |
| 03:56.27 | ElectricElf | Somebody got a URL? :) |
| 03:56.33 | fiberchunks | looks like it's aimed at some nebula ;) |
| 03:56.41 | fiberchunks | patlabor221.bakadigital.com |
| 03:56.50 | Patlabor221 | that's the cats ass |
| 03:57.02 | fiberchunks | lol! |
| 03:57.26 | bryjen | cat-ass-trophy! |
| 03:59.02 | Patlabor221 | there how is that? |
| 03:59.26 | fiberchunks | ah, much better :) |
| 03:59.27 | bzgirl | aww :) |
| 04:05.03 | captain_proton | oooooo python 2.3 final |
| 04:05.16 | fiberchunks | indeed :) |
| 04:07.41 | SGI | good night |
| 04:07.44 | fiberchunks | nite |
| 04:09.12 | bzgirl | ci SGI |
| 04:09.18 | bzgirl | cu* |
| 04:19.59 | fiberchunks | gnite all |
| 04:22.16 | bryjen | bedtime for me too |
| 05:19.16 | captain_proton | is it just me or does legolas respond to everything with "cool!" |
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| 07:59.12 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 07:59.17 | captain_proton | this seems dirty to me: |
| 07:59.20 | captain_proton | src/bzflag/menus.cxx: listServer.socket = socket(AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, 0); |
| 08:10.34 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/Viewport (GL.py): A more useful variation on x-ray mode |
| 08:12.08 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12pybzflag/ (clothtest.py): bad whitespace! |
| 08:14.45 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI/ThreeDRender (Pass.py): actually import the libraries we use |
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| 08:20.27 | bomber_ | moin |
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| 10:53.51 | [TeA|TrEE] | huhu |
| 10:53.55 | bomber_ | haha |
| 10:54.15 | [TeA|TrEE] | jetzt fängt das wieder an |
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| 10:54.25 | bomber_ | was? |
| 10:54.28 | [TeA|TrEE] | hehe |
| 10:54.30 | [TeA|TrEE] | ^^ |
| 10:54.36 | bomber_ | hihi |
| 10:54.43 | [TeA|TrEE] | hyhy |
| 10:54.56 | bomber_ | hähä |
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| 11:10.45 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag (Util.py): Follow symlinks if applicable when finding our data directory |
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| 13:07.57 | Chestal | wow: gpg: key CD98B20A: "Tim Riker <Tim@Rikers.org>" 149 new signatures |
| 13:16.32 | dougAtWork | lol |
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| 13:18.09 | Chestal | proton, fiber, elf, doug: alive? |
| 13:31.36 | tea|tree | hui |
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| 14:10.39 | dougAtWork | I am |
| 14:11.10 | dougAtWork | ~x de en bis gleich |
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| 14:37.59 | TimRiker | dougAtWork wishes |
| 14:44.09 | Chestal | Tim: I just did gpg --refresh-keys and got lots of new signatures on your PGP key |
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| 14:44.46 | strayer | hello world... |
| 14:44.59 | TimRiker | Chestal: =) |
| 14:46.23 | dougAtWork | :) |
| 14:47.02 | TimRiker | ~fishslap dougAtWork |
| 14:47.03 | | ACTION slaps dougAtWork up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 14:47.52 | strayer | a fish is not hard enough for dough... ;p |
| 14:58.51 | dougAtWork | how about a cluebat? |
| 15:08.08 | [dmp] | hi strayer |
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| 15:15.03 | [dmp] | ~ducati |
| 15:18.34 | [dmp] | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:22.35 | dougAtWork | hey beezeegrl |
| 15:22.54 | bzgirl | hello doug |
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| 16:29.49 | captain_proton | Chestal: poke |
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| 16:40.36 | JBDiGriz | ~dict chatelaine |
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| 17:11.42 | lurgyman | ~fishslap IDL |
| 17:11.43 | | ACTION slaps IDL up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 17:11.45 | lurgyman | ah |
| 17:11.48 | lurgyman | much better |
| 17:12.05 | captain_proton | hah |
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| 17:24.43 | patlabor221 | issues mr. chunks? |
| 17:57.22 | dougAtWork | IDL? |
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| 17:57.53 | TimRiker | bzflag 5154/tcp BZFlag game server |
| 17:57.53 | TimRiker | bzflag 5154/udp BZFlag game server |
| 17:57.53 | TimRiker | # Tim Riker <tim@rikers.org> July 2003 |
| 17:58.15 | TimRiker | ianna gave us 5154 for the registered port number. |
| 18:01.33 | dougAtWork | is that good? |
| 18:01.48 | dougAtWork | I thought its 5155 :/ |
| 18:03.14 | patlabor221 | it's what ever is put in the code as default :) |
| 18:03.29 | dougAtWork | ah |
| 18:07.27 | TimRiker | 5154 is the multicast port in 1.7 we should move 1.9 to 5154 as default and add a comment in the source. |
| 18:08.15 | dougAtWork | ah |
| 18:08.27 | prot-work | TimRiker: woo! |
| 18:08.38 | dougAtWork | kinda late to be getting to work isnt it? |
| 18:08.53 | prot-work | dougAtWork: well...i was working from stuff at home |
| 18:09.00 | prot-work | and then i needed to do stuff here |
| 18:09.13 | dougAtWork | ah |
| 18:09.37 | TimRiker | server discovery will still be in 5154 in 1.9 but the format of the packets will be different. |
| 18:09.52 | TimRiker | and game servers will be in 5154 by default in 1.9 |
| 18:18.42 | lurgyman | ~fishslap companies that use lots of little java applets for rollovers on their web site specially in the support section |
| 18:18.43 | | ACTION slaps companies that use lots of little java applets up side the head with a wet fish for rollovers on their web site specially in the support section |
| 18:18.57 | lurgyman | wow |
| 18:19.40 | prot-work | impressive |
| 18:19.49 | prot-work | ~fishslap lurgyman for IDL |
| 18:19.50 | | ACTION slaps lurgyman up side the head with a wet fish for IDL |
| 18:21.44 | lurgyman | ~fishslap for loops |
| 18:21.45 | | ACTION slaps for loops up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 18:21.56 | lurgyman | ~fishslap for loops for great justice |
| 18:21.57 | | ACTION slaps for loops up side the head with a wet fish for great justice |
| 18:25.01 | lurgyman | ~fishslap poachers for the department fish and wildlife |
| 18:25.05 | | ACTION slaps poachers up side the head with a wet fish for the department fish and wildlife |
| 18:25.08 | lurgyman | works like a charm |
| 18:25.13 | lurgyman | nuff o that, tho... |
| 18:29.35 | prot-work | hmm |
| 18:29.41 | prot-work | now this is an intriguing windows error |
| 18:29.44 | prot-work | "Unknown hard error." |
| 18:30.13 | patlabor221 | well it can figure out the easy errors |
| 18:32.56 | CIA | 03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/ (TODO): add note about new port |
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| 18:36.32 | lurgyman | oh boy, diablo's in #commits again |
| 18:37.55 | prot-work | uhhuh |
| 18:53.42 | TimRiker | anyone here on advogato? |
| 18:54.49 | prot-work | why do you ask? |
| 18:57.04 | bryjen | Found at http://www.advogato.org/ : |
| 18:57.05 | bryjen | Recent people joining: |
| 18:57.07 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.08 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.23 | prot-work | ooh diablo has an advogato account? |
| 18:57.25 | prot-work | haha |
| 18:58.12 | dougAtWork | advogato? |
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| 19:00.40 | lurgyman | avogadro's younger brother |
| 19:00.55 | lurgyman | his number isn't as famous cuz it's not as big |
| 19:00.55 | prot-work | heh |
| 19:05.03 | prot-work | TimRiker: i see you registered |
| 19:07.19 | TimRiker | prot-work: yeah. I registered bzflag too. |
| 19:15.29 | Chestal | let me register on that project -) |
| 19:16.21 | dougAtWork | one eye? = |
| 19:16.23 | dougAtWork | ) |
| 19:18.38 | dougAtWork | so diablo just likes contraditing people? |
| 19:27.09 | TimRiker | Chestal: I think as long as you are > observer you can add yourself. try it now. |
| 19:27.31 | TimRiker | worked |
| 19:33.32 | tea|tree | =) |
| 19:33.53 | tea|tree | ibot seen Quol |
| 19:33.53 | | quol <~quolsimo@modemcable052.11-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1d 2h 35m 40s ago, saying: 'sure you can - just keep telling yourself that :)'. |
| 19:41.29 | tea|tree | programm that records demos whilst playing BZ.... |
| 19:41.38 | tea|tree | record cheater demos etz |
| 19:43.04 | dougAtWork | then work on pybzflag |
| 19:43.07 | dougAtWork | it supports that stuff |
| 19:44.03 | prot-work | not really |
| 19:44.53 | dougAtWork | sorta :P |
| 20:07.11 | Chestal | is there no way to search for peopel there? Only the people page which lists _everyone_? |
| 20:08.08 | prot-work | how does one get added to projects? |
| 20:08.39 | Chestal | prot: go to the project page and add yourself |
| 20:10.12 | Chestal | maybe because you haven't been certified by anyone |
| 20:10.46 | prot-work | could be |
| 20:11.10 | Chestal | I certified you, but it looks liek it takes some time for the trust metric to be recalculated |
| 20:15.07 | TimRiker | the advogato interface is lame. I suggest we start another site. ;-) |
| 20:15.35 | dougAtWork | TimRiker: patches welcome ;=) |
| 20:16.06 | prot-work | TimRiker: indeed |
| 20:17.30 | Chestal | hmm, do we have stationary cannons in bz now or what is this new stuff? |
| 20:17.49 | prot-work | Chestal: talking about MAC's world weapons stuff? |
| 20:17.56 | Chestal | and has anyone ever tested the thief flag? |
| 20:17.57 | Chestal | prot: yep |
| 20:20.03 | prot-work | Chestal: weapons fired by the server |
| 20:21.30 | dougAtWork | cool |
| 20:23.09 | ElectricElf | TimRiker: Mind adding another admin or two to xmissione.bzflag.org? Been either a very persistent dick, or a number of them. |
| 20:23.16 | ElectricElf | s/one/on/ |
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| 20:24.47 | Chestal | prot: specified where? worldfile? with origin + direction? |
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| 20:25.09 | prot-work | Chestal: worldfile, i don't know the semantics |
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| 20:27.28 | SGI | hello |
| 20:27.46 | lurgyman | hi SGI |
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| 20:36.04 | david_v | SGI: hallo :) any news from your team? |
| 20:36.12 | SGI | hi |
| 20:36.24 | SGI | I dont have any news |
| 20:36.31 | SGI | what time you want to play |
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| 20:37.13 | david_v | well, as i said around 20:00 UTC is generally good |
| 20:37.55 | SGI | UTC |
| 20:38.03 | SGI | here is abot -5 |
| 20:38.24 | SGI | is past |
| 20:38.28 | david_v | that should be correct for CDT |
| 20:38.28 | SGI | 15pm |
| 20:38.38 | david_v | right |
| 20:38.41 | SGI | CDT??? |
| 20:38.53 | david_v | Central Daylight savings Time |
| 20:38.57 | david_v | or whatever you'd call it |
| 20:39.08 | SGI | I know UTC-GMT |
| 20:39.12 | SGI | EST |
| 20:39.16 | SGI | CST |
| 20:39.26 | SGI | :0) |
| 20:39.33 | david_v | yeah? |
| 20:39.33 | lurgyman | MST |
| 20:39.50 | david_v | UTC-5 should be CDT :) |
| 20:39.52 | SGI | 20 is to early |
| 20:39.56 | dougAtWork | At the tone, 39 mins, 12 hours, Universial, cordinated time. . . beeeep |
| 20:39.58 | [TeA|TrEE] | what the |
| 20:39.59 | david_v | we can make it... say... |
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| 20:40.08 | david_v | 21-22...? |
| 20:40.09 | SGI | family |
| 20:40.11 | dougAtWork | tock, tock tock tock tock |
| 20:40.11 | [TeA|TrEE] | doug |
| 20:40.19 | david_v | dougAtWork: shh :) |
| 20:40.21 | SGI | screeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 20:40.36 | SGI | question |
| 20:40.36 | [TeA|TrEE] | the third sentence of SGI showed i funny animel of Trillian |
| 20:40.39 | dougAtWork | :) |
| 20:40.46 | [TeA|TrEE] | EST CST and ???? |
| 20:40.51 | [TeA|TrEE] | whats the 3rd |
| 20:40.54 | david_v | MST, PST |
| 20:40.57 | SGI | SGI |
| 20:41.00 | dougAtWork | EST |
| 20:41.00 | [TeA|TrEE] | PST |
| 20:41.04 | dougAtWork | ABC |
| 20:41.04 | [TeA|TrEE] | heh? |
| 20:41.05 | [TeA|TrEE] | MST |
| 20:41.08 | dougAtWork | CBS |
| 20:41.09 | david_v | PST is fourth |
| 20:41.15 | SGI | yes |
| 20:41.17 | SGI | pacific |
| 20:41.18 | [TeA|TrEE] | strange |
| 20:41.22 | [TeA|TrEE] | bug in trillian |
| 20:41.30 | david_v | dougAtWork: i didn't know clocks could understand English :) |
| 20:41.30 | SGI | big bug |
| 20:41.34 | david_v | [TeA|TrEE]: use gaim ;) |
| 20:41.39 | [TeA|TrEE] | :P |
| 20:41.41 | dougAtWork | drudge |
| 20:41.48 | *** part/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~[TeA|TrEE@pD9E950E2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:41.48 | dougAtWork | then, last of all, slashdot :) |
| 20:41.55 | SGI | master jedi |
| 20:42.02 | SGI | I need to find my Ip |
| 20:42.09 | david_v | dougAtWork: ok, posting some comments in blind again? :) |
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| 20:42.24 | SGI | I have one but its from the router |
| 20:42.38 | dougAtWork | ~nslookup pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net |
| 20:42.44 | dougAtWork | there ya go |
| 20:42.44 | SGI | I want know wich is one before |
| 20:42.53 | SGI | thanks |
| 20:43.41 | SGI | why I cant connect to quol server port 8087 |
| 20:44.02 | SGI | I can connect to all 8081-83-85 |
| 20:44.10 | SGI | but not 87 |
| 20:44.51 | david_v | seems to work for me |
| 20:44.53 | SGI | I have an error |
| 20:45.05 | SGI | connection failed |
| 20:45.24 | SGI | error downloading world database |
| 20:45.37 | david_v | just try again, sometimes i get timeouts and stuff on servers |
| 20:46.46 | SGI | is a week |
| 20:47.01 | SGI | i can login only if im holding enter |
| 20:47.08 | david_v | hmm |
| 20:47.17 | SGI | and or bz crash or nothing |
| 20:47.32 | SGI | and probably i can login |
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| 20:52.52 | [dmp] | david_v: can you change the fontsize in gaim? |
| 20:53.00 | david_v | [dmp]: hallo :) |
| 20:53.07 | [dmp] | david_v: hi :) |
| 20:53.14 | david_v | checking. do you expect me to have my IMs running? ;) |
| 20:54.16 | david_v | hm... trying to understand this thing. there are some font size settings... but... |
| 20:54.44 | david_v | try sending a msg to me on jabber |
| 20:54.56 | TimRiker | so who can I trust as an xmission admin? |
| 20:55.38 | patlabor221 | you could set up a registration group for just kick and ban |
| 20:56.44 | [dmp] | david_v: i think you changed my fontsize :-) When i write to you the font is HUGE, but everybody else got normal fontsize.. still |
| 20:57.13 | david_v | lol |
| 20:57.38 | david_v | check under Tools->Preferences->Interface->Fonts |
| 20:57.45 | david_v | and don't ask me which setting to change ;) |
| 20:58.24 | [dmp] | changed the "custom fontsize" and "custom face" .. didnt changed a thing.. |
| 20:58.35 | david_v | does for me. which version are you using? |
| 20:58.44 | [dmp] | i dont like the current size.. Im not blind.. |
| 20:58.49 | SGI | anyone have a clue for my prob |
| 20:58.58 | david_v | [dmp]: not? such a detail can be fixed! ;) |
| 20:59.02 | [dmp] | david_v: 0.64 |
| 20:59.12 | david_v | hmm |
| 20:59.14 | david_v | 0.62 here |
| 20:59.16 | david_v | let me try 0.64 |
| 20:59.26 | [dmp] | same with 0.63 too |
| 21:00.08 | david_v | hehe |
| 21:00.23 | SGI | no SGI is the problem |
| 21:00.31 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 21:00.37 | SGI | can be the map |
| 21:01.15 | [dmp] | I had some problems last week.. Coudlnt join Q's ducati-ctf style server.. was told that the game was over.. It lasted for days.. and when i finally could join, it was empty :) |
| 21:01.39 | david_v | lol |
| 21:01.46 | SGI | i can login in all but only 8087 |
| 21:02.01 | [dmp] | i have no idea whats wrong, sgi |
| 21:04.33 | TimRiker | could be a character coding issue that forces a font change. |
| 21:04.36 | david_v | [dmp]: i need to compile this version, hold on a few min |
| 21:04.49 | david_v | hmmmm |
| 21:04.55 | david_v | that'd still be a bug imo |
| 21:05.20 | [dmp] | david_v: desktopdump: http://daisy.baat.dk/toobig.png i like both the chatwindow and the gaim-contact-list window to use smaller font |
| 21:06.28 | david_v | looooooading... are the fonts big enough to take up a 100000x100000 picture? :) |
| 21:06.34 | david_v | ah now it comes |
| 21:06.45 | [dmp] | Is there a nice font-site for Xfree? |
| 21:06.53 | david_v | dunno |
| 21:07.11 | david_v | installed some font packages via Gentoo portage though |
| 21:07.17 | david_v | could try to find some urls |
| 21:08.11 | [dmp] | Nothing happens if i change the font. Dosnt even seem to redraw/render the window (but then again i could be wrong, my cpu is faster than me :)) |
| 21:08.36 | david_v | http://www.gimp.org/fonts.html |
| 21:09.17 | david_v | and cups /ghostscript is supposed to come with some, it seems |
| 21:09.25 | Chestal | dmp: IIRC gaim uses the gtk2/gnoem font settings, at least for some things |
| 21:09.29 | david_v | i don't know any dedicated site though |
| 21:13.38 | david_v | brb... closing gaim, sry |
| 21:15.26 | david_v | back |
| 21:15.32 | bzgirl | dmp you can install a bunch of nice fonts with apt |
| 21:15.50 | bzgirl | apt-cache search xfonts should turn up a few |
| 21:16.21 | Chestal | TT fonts probably look best |
| 21:16.34 | david_v | Chestal: tricky question, would you happen to know a way to force an internet package take a specific route (i.e. using only the computer addresses given in a complete list) ? |
| 21:16.39 | Chestal | but I betetr refrain from giving any tips on X11 and fonts, got enough problems myself .-) |
| 21:16.47 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 21:16.54 | david_v | heh |
| 21:17.08 | Chestal | david_v: well, in theory there is source routing in IP, but I don't think that it will actually work |
| 21:17.08 | david_v | i don't have much issues. sometimes fonts are too small though |
| 21:17.30 | david_v | Chestal: hm, yea... because that function is ignored, or? |
| 21:17.35 | TimRiker | get vera. it rox. |
| 21:17.39 | david_v | or the packages might just be filtered away? |
| 21:17.47 | Chestal | david_v: I woudl gues that most nodes would ignore it, but I'm onyl guessing |
| 21:17.51 | david_v | hm |
| 21:17.53 | bryjen | source routing can be viewed as a security risk and ignored/packets dropped |
| 21:18.14 | david_v | yeah |
| 21:18.37 | david_v | it's just that some annoying nodes here in Europe are sending people to New York for on-continent destinations |
| 21:18.52 | david_v | extremely long and unfair routes, New York is only a part of it |
| 21:18.53 | bryjen | you silly host, I am the ROUTER, I know how to forward your packets ;) |
| 21:18.59 | david_v | lol |
| 21:19.29 | bryjen | Now go away, or I shall taunt you again :) |
| 21:19.40 | david_v | are you talking to me or my host? :P |
| 21:19.43 | Chestal | yes, some routes are obvious not the best when seen from a performance viewpoint |
| 21:19.44 | david_v | jk :) |
| 21:19.49 | bryjen | david_v: Yes |
| 21:19.59 | david_v | um ,not one of those answers again lol |
| 21:20.32 | david_v | Chestal: would you know how much influence an ISP can have? do they have any kind of contracts in other countries as for the routes? |
| 21:21.11 | david_v | i can get latencies up to 500ms+ within Europe... that's unacceptable |
| 21:21.27 | Chestal | david_v: I am no expert there, but I think the ISPs have contracts with other ISPs, so their routng is not only based on technical data, but on economical, too |
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| 21:21.59 | [dmp] | Fluxbox didnt like me restarting xfs :) |
| 21:22.01 | Chestal | I often found that ping(a,b) > ping(a,c) + ping(c,b) |
| 21:22.05 | david_v | Chestal: ok. well thanks anyway. maybe i should try some blackmailing :) |
| 21:22.19 | david_v | Chestal: right... |
| 21:22.38 | david_v | that's one funny thing, sometimes when i traceroute... |
| 21:22.50 | david_v | i can get a certain ping on one node, and a lower ping on the next |
| 21:22.59 | Chestal | if you have control of c, you can setup a VPN of course :-9 |
| 21:23.04 | david_v | quite significant, not just a random difference |
| 21:23.16 | david_v | Chestal: hehe :) |
| 21:24.19 | david_v | do you have any idea of a site that might give a URL with some info, though? :) or some forum or so |
| 21:24.27 | Chestal | hmm, nope |
| 21:24.28 | david_v | i've tried some Googling already |
| 21:24.37 | david_v | but that should be assumed nowadays |
| 21:24.47 | david_v | k |
| 21:25.35 | Chestal | hmm, shoudl I do some reading or watch another voy episode before I go to bed? |
| 21:26.55 | david_v | star trek? |
| 21:27.01 | Chestal | yes |
| 21:27.03 | david_v | :) |
| 21:27.08 | david_v | take that as a go ;) |
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| 21:35.11 | david_v | hm, they can't do a single web popup nowadays without being browser specific |
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| 21:58.49 | [TeA|TrEE] | what the |
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| 22:30.09 | tea|tree | has anywone bought already some bz products ? @ TimRiker |
| 22:32.00 | TimRiker | some, yeah. I wore mine to OLS and got quite a few comments. |
| 22:33.07 | JBDiGriz | Especially if you wore the spaghetti strap top! |
| 22:33.20 | prot-work | hehe |
| 22:33.47 | tea|tree | OLS? |
| 22:34.11 | tea|tree | i want to by a thoung for me ^^ |
| 22:34.21 | JBDiGriz | TMI !!!! |
| 22:35.32 | TimRiker | ~ols |
| 22:35.33 | | somebody said ols was Ottawa Linux Symposium or http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2003/. July 23rd-26th |
| 22:40.48 | fiberchunks | and now I'm off to buy some clothes -- if I don't see you all -- take it easy, and see ya in a couple of weeks |
| 22:41.57 | lurgyman | already? |
| 22:41.58 | lurgyman | bye prot-work |
| 22:42.36 | prot-work | there's nothing going on here |
| 22:43.18 | lurgyman | you can look at |
| 22:43.24 | lurgyman | http://www.confluence.org/ for a while |
| 22:43.32 | lurgyman | although |
| 22:43.39 | lurgyman | i guess that works from home too :) |
| 22:44.34 | prot-work | wow |
| 22:44.40 | prot-work | those guys are even more bored than me |
| 22:44.54 | lurgyman | heh |
| 22:44.55 | lurgyman | yep |
| 22:45.37 | prot-work | yay for dashboard |
| 22:45.42 | JBDiGriz | It's fun to find some of the confluences. It gives a random destination to a hike! |
| 22:45.48 | lurgyman | hehe |
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| 23:16.12 | captain_proton | anything nifty going on? |
| 23:16.22 | siggraph | ouch |
| 23:16.30 | siggraph | of course |
| 23:17.14 | siggraph | right now I'm listening to digital domain talk about how they implemented fluids and "melting" objects |
| 23:20.13 | siggraph | there was a short paper about how to model impact damage earlier |
| 23:20.20 | siggraph | that would be sweet |
| 23:20.46 | siggraph | basically a real-time method to make a bzflag bullet shatter through other geometry |
| 23:21.12 | captain_proton | oooh |
| 23:21.15 | siggraph | it wasn't finite element based, but a real neat fast hack |
| 23:21.33 | siggraph | perfect for gaming |
| 23:24.31 | captain_proton | siggraph: link to paper? |
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| 23:26.54 | siggraph | cap: none yet |
| 23:28.06 | siggraph | I'll have to extract it from the dvd later |
| 23:28.06 | captain_proton | ah |
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| 23:44.19 | patlabor221 | damn, that turned out to be a lot of code for an enet autopacking data chunk class |
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| 23:54.28 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 23:54.33 | captain_proton | i still can't see how to add myself to projects |
| 23:58.05 | siggraph | easy .. :) |
| 23:59.37 | captain_proton | hah |
| 23:59.39 | captain_proton | on advogato |
