| 00:00.02 | patlabor221 | eww |
| 00:00.07 | patlabor221 | GL.org is not the best |
| 00:00.07 | david_v | not good? :) |
| 00:00.17 | captain_proton | nehe.gamedev.net =) |
| 00:00.18 | david_v | i can say that the first tutorial was quite weird |
| 00:00.20 | david_v | it works |
| 00:00.22 | david_v | though |
| 00:00.27 | fiberchunks | no, I tried that path too, and my wrists were smacked by herr labor ;) |
| 00:00.31 | patlabor221 | yeah nehe is good |
| 00:00.32 | david_v | but the coding... well, well, he seems to be an amateur |
| 00:00.32 | patlabor221 | http://www.gametutorials.com/ |
| 00:00.48 | patlabor221 | http://www.gametutorials.com/download/Ports/OpenGL/Triangle_SDL.zip |
| 00:00.59 | patlabor221 | that is there first SDL/GL tut |
| 00:01.04 | patlabor221 | makes a single triangle |
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| 00:01.21 | david_v | hmmm |
| 00:01.25 | patlabor221 | they go from that all the way to reading and rending a quake 3 level |
| 00:01.25 | david_v | nehe WAS the one i was on |
| 00:01.32 | patlabor221 | http://www.gametutorials.com/Tutorials/OpenGL/OpenGL_Pg1.htm |
| 00:01.32 | david_v | so, that one i know about :) |
| 00:01.44 | david_v | gametutorials though, will have a look |
| 00:02.11 | patlabor221 | they even do octrees |
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| 00:02.54 | david_v | octrees? eight-sides? |
| 00:03.02 | patlabor221 | 8 branches |
| 00:03.08 | patlabor221 | spacial partitioning |
| 00:03.23 | patlabor221 | a cube can be broken into 8 sub cubes |
| 00:03.37 | david_v | ahh |
| 00:03.42 | david_v | to play with the parts, or what? |
| 00:03.42 | captain_proton | yay for bzflag with multitexturing |
| 00:03.54 | captain_proton | the grass actually looks good |
| 00:04.00 | david_v | :) |
| 00:04.08 | fiberchunks | cap, do you have a 'man sed' on your box? |
| 00:04.10 | david_v | if anyone could remove the annoying lines in the grass |
| 00:04.18 | david_v | quite disturbing |
| 00:04.20 | patlabor221 | its a way to divde a world up so you can parse it fast. for like visibility and stuff |
| 00:04.27 | captain_proton | well this isn't actually real bzflag |
| 00:04.34 | captain_proton | its pybzflag, so it didn't have those lines to begin with |
| 00:04.43 | david_v | patlabor221: ah, ok, makes some sense. haven't dealt anything with it, though |
| 00:04.45 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: yeah |
| 00:04.56 | fiberchunks | damnit -- why isn't it here :\ |
| 00:04.59 | patlabor221 | if your dealing with a 3d world you will be, |
| 00:05.23 | david_v | patlabor221: not yet. it'll be 2D /3D |
| 00:05.41 | patlabor221 | still you gonna draw the entire world every fame? |
| 00:06.12 | david_v | i haven't thought about that yet, i'm still at the stage of finding the technologies available and learning what i need to learn |
| 00:06.26 | patlabor221 | like I say, you will :) |
| 00:06.37 | david_v | why? if it's just 2D objects i don't need any partitioning abstractions |
| 00:06.45 | david_v | call it what you like, though :) |
| 00:06.58 | patlabor221 | is every 2d object going to be on the screen at the same time? |
| 00:07.19 | david_v | in a way, probably |
| 00:08.09 | david_v | if it's just a matter of redrawing a 2D frame, it's no big deal. this is just for fun and learning, anyway |
| 00:08.11 | patlabor221 | then if your gonna draw everything every frame then no, you don't need any. but if you have a "world" that is larger then the screen you need some way to figure out what is shown and what is not. |
| 00:08.29 | patlabor221 | yeah this is the fun part of learning, the high level stuff :) |
| 00:08.31 | david_v | patlabor221: that's still quite simple in a 2D world :) |
| 00:08.37 | patlabor221 | still |
| 00:08.54 | david_v | yes it would, i'm not getting into it right now though |
| 00:08.55 | patlabor221 | you may end up with a simple vis algo, but still you will have one |
| 00:09.03 | david_v | yes of course |
| 00:09.15 | david_v | but i don't think cubes will help me :) |
| 00:09.16 | patlabor221 | I'm just saying that that site goes thru a number of techiniqes for that |
| 00:09.20 | david_v | hehe |
| 00:09.22 | david_v | ah |
| 00:09.25 | patlabor221 | no the cubes won't |
| 00:09.26 | david_v | kk |
| 00:09.26 | patlabor221 | not for you |
| 00:09.39 | patlabor221 | tho a quadtree may |
| 00:09.44 | david_v | didn't see you were talking about the site heh :) |
| 00:10.04 | patlabor221 | vis is allways the fun part for me |
| 00:10.18 | patlabor221 | fun ways of figuring out what is shown in large world |
| 00:10.31 | patlabor221 | cus often you can't test every single ojbect |
| 00:10.31 | david_v | isn't it easier to just cloak all 2D objects. makes it more challenging for the player, too :) |
| 00:10.42 | patlabor221 | huh? |
| 00:10.51 | patlabor221 | that sounds like gameplay |
| 00:10.53 | david_v | yea, just draw a still background :) |
| 00:11.28 | patlabor221 | the bigest thing I found to learn was to seperate gameplay from the tech in your mind |
| 00:11.29 | david_v | good point about testing, this world won't get big though |
| 00:11.47 | david_v | heh |
| 00:12.11 | patlabor221 | BZ tests every object against the view frustum, thats one reason it's slow on maps with a lot of stuff |
| 00:12.32 | david_v | ah |
| 00:12.43 | david_v | that's heavy indeed |
| 00:12.44 | patlabor221 | it needs the cube thing |
| 00:13.13 | david_v | actually, even if i've never dealt with cubes in this way, i came up with the idea one time ago, when thinking about 3D stuff |
| 00:13.29 | david_v | only sounded tricky to me how to split the cubes properly etc etc etc |
| 00:13.42 | patlabor221 | there are algos to do it |
| 00:13.43 | david_v | to organize it all |
| 00:13.50 | patlabor221 | it's allways a tree |
| 00:13.55 | david_v | yeah sure, but i didn't know that then :) |
| 00:13.57 | patlabor221 | there are BSPs too |
| 00:14.59 | patlabor221 | well time to go home and UV map a hover tanky |
| 00:15.10 | david_v | :) |
| 00:15.18 | david_v | thanks for your help, pat |
| 00:15.22 | patlabor221 | sure |
| 00:15.24 | david_v | good night |
| 00:15.40 | patlabor221 | ohh I live like 700 feet away, I'll be back on in like 6 min :) |
| 00:15.44 | david_v | thanks to everybody else as well. i'm leaving too, but to my bed :) |
| 00:15.50 | david_v | you, yes :) hehe :) |
| 00:15.56 | fiberchunks | later on david_v |
| 00:16.00 | david_v | later |
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| 00:24.22 | Tupone | capt: |
| 00:24.39 | doughecka | Tupone: |
| 00:25.03 | captain_proton | Tupone: if you have something to say, just say it :P |
| 00:25.19 | Tupone | captain_proton: I found bzfs discarding PlayerMsgUpdate |
| 00:25.40 | captain_proton | i think that's MrAC's fault |
| 00:25.44 | Tupone | Don't know if it is an unfinished fixes or something wrong |
| 00:25.56 | Tupone | It check for packet ordering |
| 00:26.17 | Tupone | but no info is on the protocolo |
| 00:26.42 | Tupone | Can I fix that or wait dbrosius ?? to finish the fix |
| 00:26.57 | captain_proton | talk to him about it - see whats going on |
| 00:26.57 | Ralf_ | did 1 try opacy? |
| 00:27.32 | Tupone | Is he here? |
| 00:27.56 | sussi | from vuffy dark 1 step lighter |
| 00:28.08 | sussi | effect letter |
| 00:28.15 | sussi | fully |
| 00:29.11 | captain_proton | Tupone: no - he comes on as "MrApathyCream" |
| 00:29.40 | Tupone | Thanx! |
| 00:31.25 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 00:31.37 | captain_proton | i just got a nigerian scam from an email address in the czech republic |
| 00:31.49 | fiberchunks | nice |
| 00:31.55 | fiberchunks | their multi-national now :) |
| 00:32.08 | captain_proton | well they still claimed to be from nigeria |
| 00:34.49 | doughecka | did they say they are hiding in czech republic? :) |
| 00:36.00 | captain_proton | you know, i didn't really pay much attention to it |
| 00:45.39 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): C&P error: killing robots kills the true player |
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| 01:04.40 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/data (Makefile.am): added png & wav (white color) for Rabbit Hunting to distribution |
| 01:06.30 | Tupone | pwd |
| 01:07.30 | doughecka | heh |
| 01:09.39 | Tupone | pwd |
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| 01:50.33 | captain_proton | hiya scanline |
| 01:50.46 | scanline | hello |
| 01:52.35 | Tupone | MrApathyCream: Are you putting in out of order msg check in bzfs? |
| 01:59.34 | captain_proton | scanline: the grass looks great, the concrete on the bottom looks great, the concrete on the top not so great |
| 01:59.56 | scanline | yeah, it needs lots of tweaking... |
| 02:00.05 | captain_proton | i love the grass =) |
| 02:00.09 | scanline | hehe |
| 02:01.19 | MrApathyCream | tupone, i think it might be messing up |
| 02:02.43 | MrApathyCream | i think the one coming across the net is unitialized,f or some reason on ther server |
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| 02:09.23 | MrApathyCream | wow that code got merged out again ... gggrrrrrr |
| 02:12.44 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-62-11-20-181.dialup.tiscali.it) |
| 02:14.16 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/common (PlayerState.cxx): ooo code got merged out, put back in |
| 02:16.54 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (16 files in 2 dirs): Tweak the textures some more |
| 02:18.49 | bryjen | scanline: not sharing graphics with the C code? |
| 02:19.14 | scanline | not really |
| 02:19.29 | scanline | we started with the same textures, but we're spiffing it all up into something hopefully more better :) |
| 02:19.46 | scanline | I got the grass looking pretty nice with multitexturing.. trying something a little more risky with the boxen |
| 02:22.20 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/common (PlayerState.cxx): oops incr order |
| 02:24.03 | bryjen | ~see captain_proton ? |
| 02:24.11 | bryjen | bah |
| 02:24.19 | bryjen | ~seen captain_proton ? |
| 02:24.20 | | bryjen: i haven't seen 'captain_proton ' |
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| 02:31.39 | bryjen | hmm. everythings greenish again. its not that way at work. must be something with the video driver. |
| 02:32.14 | *** part/#bzflag Enotirab (~Enotirab@12-206-137-38.client.attbi.com) |
| 02:34.23 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/common (PlayerState.cxx): sigh, init order to 0 in ctor |
| 02:39.27 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/win32 (2 files): setup win32 debug directory correctly |
| 02:39.44 | bryjen | Is "bzflag -window" currently working for anyone? |
| 02:40.30 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 02:40.40 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/data (thief.wav): thief sound |
| 02:41.12 | bryjen | hrm. I'm getting segfaults if i don't specify a -geometry, and if I do, it doesn't seem to use the Y size |
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| 02:41.51 | bryjen | Looks like it falls back to the minimum Y size, a teeeny 192 |
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| 02:57.30 | captain_proton | doobeedoo |
| 02:57.53 | captain_proton | scanline: you should move stuff off wasabi so we can tell it to record monk |
| 02:59.36 | scanline | hmm yes.. off wasabi... |
| 03:00.19 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 03:00.20 | captain_proton | tmbg time! |
| 03:02.01 | learner | :)) |
| 03:02.03 | learner | yes |
| 03:02.36 | learner | Mmmm... dry martini on the rocks .. mmmm.. |
| 03:02.41 | fiberchunks | ugh |
| 03:02.44 | learner | Mmm.. Sam Adams summer ale |
| 03:02.45 | fiberchunks | vodka or gin? |
| 03:02.50 | fiberchunks | that's better |
| 03:02.53 | learner | heh |
| 03:03.05 | learner | vodka |
| 03:03.17 | fiberchunks | oh, well then that's acceptable too :) |
| 03:03.23 | learner | heheh |
| 03:03.36 | fiberchunks | just in case you gave a damn what I think about your drinking choices ;) |
| 03:03.58 | learner | hehe, of course i do :) |
| 03:04.08 | learner | especially after I've been drinking :) |
| 03:04.17 | learner | I feel much better now than when I was at work |
| 03:04.18 | learner | ! |
| 03:05.15 | fiberchunks | really? how's that work? ;) |
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| 03:11.51 | Enotirab | hello? |
| 03:11.57 | scanline | hello! |
| 03:11.58 | captain_proton | hello |
| 03:12.04 | learner | hello |
| 03:12.13 | Enotirab | has asdf been on recently? |
| 03:12.17 | fiberchunks | hi? |
| 03:12.19 | learner | ~seen asdf |
| 03:12.20 | | asdf <~ccarroll@103.232.95.24.cfl.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 9d 3h 34m 38s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 03:12.23 | Bagheera | guten tag |
| 03:12.30 | Enotirab | ah thank you |
| 03:12.42 | fiberchunks | do you sing? |
| 03:12.50 | fiberchunks | or play the sax? |
| 03:13.10 | Enotirab | why? |
| 03:13.11 | fiberchunks | enotirab == baritone |
| 03:13.23 | Enotirab | baritone is a brass instrument |
| 03:13.34 | fiberchunks | and also a voice characteristic |
| 03:13.35 | Enotirab | it's basically a miniture tuba |
| 03:13.44 | Bagheera | i used to play one... |
| 03:13.46 | fiberchunks | oh, the name of the instrument :) |
| 03:13.54 | Enotirab | nice |
| 03:14.03 | Enotirab | how long did you play Bagheera? |
| 03:14.50 | Bagheera | 3 years, after playing trumpet for 3 years.......carrying the dang thing around was a pain, went to golf team instead |
| 03:14.59 | Enotirab | lol |
| 03:15.05 | Enotirab | ya kinda big isn't it |
| 03:15.05 | Bagheera | you play? |
| 03:15.09 | Enotirab | of course |
| 03:15.43 | Bagheera | how long |
| 03:16.02 | Enotirab | only a year |
| 03:16.16 | Enotirab | but it's cool |
| 03:16.20 | Bagheera | had that much impact on you eh |
| 03:16.41 | Enotirab | ya it's great |
| 03:17.16 | Enotirab | i got second part in my band so i'm not doing too horribly |
| 03:17.24 | Bagheera | all they keep giving me to play was um-pa music......not that good though....congrats |
| 03:17.33 | Enotirab | ah thanks |
| 03:17.40 | Enotirab | we get a pretty cool part |
| 03:17.51 | Enotirab | not just whole notes :P |
| 03:19.09 | Enotirab | what kind of band were you in? |
| 03:20.02 | Bagheera | anyone know is someone is going to host a ctf like xmission but with lag limits and cheat kicks? |
| 03:20.03 | fiberchunks | ~d |
| 03:20.16 | fiberchunks | ~xmission |
| 03:21.49 | captain_proton | hopeless bleak dispair, it was always there, and then one day, it dissapeared |
| 03:22.19 | Bagheera | arg |
| 03:22.25 | MrApathyCream | anyone up for testing THIEF on xmission? |
| 03:22.36 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: sure, one minute |
| 03:22.37 | Bagheera | thief? |
| 03:23.13 | captain_proton | ok, ready |
| 03:23.49 | captain_proton | ummm |
| 03:23.55 | captain_proton | it keeps kicking me for being out of bounds |
| 03:23.55 | captain_proton | =/ |
| 03:24.03 | MrApathyCream | i think the server isn't updated |
| 03:24.07 | MrApathyCream | i thought it autobuild |
| 03:24.37 | MrApathyCream | the PlayerState-order bug is doing that to you |
| 03:24.41 | captain_proton | bleh |
| 03:24.55 | MrApathyCream | oh |
| 03:24.55 | MrApathyCream | wait |
| 03:24.55 | MrApathyCream | you prolly need to update |
| 03:24.58 | captain_proton | ah |
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| 03:25.19 | captain_proton | scanline: gentoo's new 'block' thing is kind of nifty |
| 03:29.54 | scanline | block thing? |
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| 03:32.41 | captain_proton | it will determine if existing packages conflict with a new install |
| 03:32.48 | captain_proton | and list those packages as blocking |
| 03:34.16 | MrApathyCream | bagheera: new flag |
| 03:35.01 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: ready |
| 03:36.10 | scanline | ah |
| 03:41.09 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: perhaps a noninit counter somewhere for comparing PU order? |
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| 03:44.09 | bryjen | captain_proton: the -current files on sfsnap give me 403s - forbidden |
| 03:44.56 | MrApathyCream | perhaps |
| 03:45.11 | MrApathyCream | found TH length problem |
| 03:45.33 | captain_proton | bryjen: dunno why, all the perms are set right |
| 03:45.55 | captain_proton | could be a webserver config issue |
| 03:53.00 | captain_proton | bwahahaha |
| 03:53.10 | captain_proton | USE="usagi" emerge pfiefer-sources |
| 03:54.42 | Michaelh_ | so pat changed the dir for the debug, but still copies the files to the old place..... |
| 03:57.44 | Michaelh_ | the cvs client is currently fubar ... |
| 03:57.45 | Michaelh_ | :) |
| 03:58.42 | Michaelh_ | I just connect and get booted for being out of bounds...... type writes all over the place ... |
| 03:59.20 | Michaelh_ | perhaps this has something to do with playerstate? |
| 03:59.41 | captain_proton | playerupdate changes |
| 04:00.02 | Michaelh_ | oops.. or perhaps the servers running are too old? |
| 04:00.08 | MrApathyCream | aha |
| 04:00.14 | captain_proton | xmission should be newest code |
| 04:00.19 | MrApathyCream | Michaelh_: yes |
| 04:00.25 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: you find something? |
| 04:00.32 | MrApathyCream | checking in important patch now |
| 04:00.45 | MrApathyCream | yes on rejoin, player.state.order was not reset to 0 |
| 04:01.10 | MrApathyCream | so if player a leaves slot 1, and player b joins and gets slot 1, bad things happen |
| 04:01.13 | MrApathyCream | fixed |
| 04:01.42 | captain_proton | that would do it |
| 04:01.44 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): reset players state.order to 0 on acceptClient |
| 04:01.58 | MrApathyCream | wait a few minutes for xmission to rebuild |
| 04:02.39 | MrApathyCream | that's sad... goes to show you that no one is developing bzflag at the moment :( |
| 04:03.03 | captain_proton | which shows that i was the only one working on it before ;-) |
| 04:03.32 | scanline | MrApathyCream: I wrote a font engine for ya |
| 04:04.17 | MrApathyCream | w00t |
| 04:04.19 | captain_proton | hehe |
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| 04:04.32 | MrApathyCream | in python no doubt |
| 04:04.43 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (ShotStrategy.cxx): Thief shot was way to long |
| 04:04.47 | scanline | what? me write code in python? |
| 04:04.58 | MrApathyCream | rumor has it |
| 04:05.11 | scanline | bah |
| 04:05.30 | bryjen | i'd think it too dark to write code inside a python ;) |
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| 04:06.11 | MrApathyCream | seems fixed now |
| 04:06.27 | scanline | no no, you write the code in emacs or vim then feed it to Python |
| 04:06.44 | scanline | I don't think Guido could find a python big enough to code in |
| 04:07.10 | scanline | woo... |
| 04:07.27 | scanline | decks looks a lot cooler with good textures on the edges of all the platforms |
| 04:08.06 | learner | wierd |
| 04:08.16 | learner | just got dropped from Quols server.. ;( |
| 04:08.22 | captain_proton | ooooooh |
| 04:08.30 | captain_proton | pfiefer-sources supports packet writing to CD-RWs |
| 04:08.36 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: care to come to xmission to eval Thief shot length? |
| 04:08.50 | Michaelh | tis still fubared..................... |
| 04:09.08 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: lemme rebuild - my system is moving really slowly due to installing stuff |
| 04:09.15 | Michaelh | doesn't seem to be updating screen after the connect...... |
| 04:09.30 | captain_proton | <*> The IPv6 protocol (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW) |
| 04:09.33 | MrApathyCream | Michaelh: ? |
| 04:09.33 | captain_proton | wahooo |
| 04:09.46 | Michaelh | perhaps I should clean ? |
| 04:09.53 | MrApathyCream | prhaps |
| 04:10.11 | MrApathyCream | heh server just rebuilt |
| 04:10.42 | Michaelh | You laffffffin at me? |
| 04:10.45 | Michaelh | :) |
| 04:11.52 | learner | now that was a good game of ctf.. me, quol, asdf, huh, fiber, sgi, and a couple others.. that was good stuff |
| 04:12.11 | learner | tough as all heck |
| 04:12.19 | fiberchunks | heh, and I actually was able to do something :) |
| 04:12.37 | learner | you held the fort down pretty tight there fiber, I was impressed :) |
| 04:12.40 | bzgirl | how come his server dosnet allow observers? |
| 04:12.57 | fiberchunks | heh, it was a constant battle with the jump reflex ;) |
| 04:13.00 | learner | you missed a few good battles, girl :) |
| 04:13.07 | learner | lol, fiber |
| 04:13.09 | bzgirl | i couldnt connect |
| 04:13.14 | learner | aww |
| 04:13.15 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: ok, coming |
| 04:13.17 | fiberchunks | quol lost his link |
| 04:13.18 | MrApathyCream | Michaelh: no i got kicked because riker autobuilds |
| 04:13.45 | fiberchunks | it's back now, but I dunno who all's there |
| 04:13.47 | learner | MAC, did you get playerstate.cxx commited? |
| 04:14.07 | learner | or whichever one it was that was missing? |
| 04:15.22 | fiberchunks | hrm -- can't connect to his server either |
| 04:15.36 | Michaelh | what happens to you? |
| 04:15.45 | Michaelh | I get some funky happenings |
| 04:16.04 | fiberchunks | well, I'm talking about quols server, not xmission |
| 04:16.13 | *** join/#bzflag Quol (~QuolSimo@modemcable052.11-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 04:16.19 | Quol | CRAP |
| 04:16.23 | bryjen | evoke(Quol) |
| 04:16.24 | fiberchunks | indeed |
| 04:16.31 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 04:16.57 | Quol | it's midnight - and I have to start phoning my ISP...they just broke their SLA agreement with us... |
| 04:21.08 | fiberchunks | bzgirl> quols is back up -- join red |
| 04:21.24 | bzgirl | k one sec. |
| 04:21.38 | Quol | wait a minute fiber - they might have to take it own again - they are having routing problems.... |
| 04:22.15 | Quol | go figure - we have a killer connection with a guaranteed 100% uptime /year, redundant everything - and their down because of an OOPS :) |
| 04:23.29 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 04:24.16 | fiberchunks | well, I'll idle here for a moment then |
| 04:24.22 | learner | ah, appears it did |
| 04:24.36 | learner | ask for your money back |
| 04:24.54 | Quol | ya - this is going to be big.... |
| 04:25.10 | Quol | we have a contact with them that states that if this happens then we get 1 month free |
| 04:25.10 | fiberchunks | who do you work for quol? |
| 04:25.32 | Quol | if it happens again then we get the whole year free :) |
| 04:25.41 | fiberchunks | wow - that is neat |
| 04:25.42 | Quol | let's hear it for the first free month :) |
| 04:25.47 | fiberchunks | yay! |
| 04:25.52 | learner | woo hoo - free unlimited streaming pr0n bandwidth for a month |
| 04:25.57 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 04:26.31 | fiberchunks | wget -r http://theinternet.net |
| 04:26.32 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 04:26.34 | learner | heh |
| 04:27.18 | fiberchunks | aieee, my head hurts from concentrating so much |
| 04:27.27 | *** part/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net) |
| 04:27.35 | learner | lol, fiber |
| 04:27.51 | bzgirl | can wget download a site, say N links deep? like IE's "make avaiable offline" |
| 04:27.53 | fiberchunks | well, not much, you'd have to specify a recursion level |
| 04:27.59 | learner | yup, gilr |
| 04:27.59 | fiberchunks | yah, it can |
| 04:28.04 | learner | eek |
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| 04:28.16 | Quol | hey SGI... |
| 04:28.17 | SGI | hi |
| 04:28.22 | fiberchunks | good battle, by the way :) |
| 04:28.33 | learner | the man with the pics more obscure than myself: sgi :) |
| 04:28.36 | Quol | ya - who won fiber - you or me? |
| 04:28.41 | bzgirl | SGI: hello |
| 04:28.47 | fiberchunks | if we were playing golf -- me |
| 04:28.51 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 04:28.52 | Quol | lol |
| 04:28.56 | SGI | yes but i have this strange prob with my connection |
| 04:28.57 | learner | nice gear, sgi :) |
| 04:29.06 | SGI | nhi babe |
| 04:29.10 | Quol | me also SGI - it's not just you |
| 04:29.12 | learner | lol |
| 04:29.12 | SGI | ]damm "n" |
| 04:29.19 | fiberchunks | only by a couple o strokes though quol |
| 04:29.27 | SGI | who won |
| 04:29.34 | fiberchunks | you woulda had me on the 18th, but I chipped in ;) |
| 04:29.35 | Quol | I know fiber - I know, it was a close battlet here |
| 04:29.37 | Quol | there |
| 04:29.51 | learner | it was all downhill after you left sgi ;( |
| 04:29.54 | SGI | last time i checked it was 10-10 |
| 04:30.00 | learner | couldn't hold the fort together any longer |
| 04:30.12 | Quol | you were doing great learner... |
| 04:30.26 | Quol | too bad you didn't get much support on my part :) |
| 04:30.29 | SGI | ni know "quol" ......is a bad player :o) |
| 04:30.29 | learner | meh, I was a little over par |
| 04:30.39 | learner | but thanks :) |
| 04:30.44 | SGI | I hate the "n" |
| 04:30.44 | Quol | that's what I keep telling people.... |
| 04:30.51 | learner | ni hate it too :) |
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| 04:30.58 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 04:31.10 | SGI | BTW nice battle |
| 04:31.14 | fiberchunks | I don't have that problem -- cause I mapped all to W |
| 04:31.17 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 04:31.18 | Quol | did you guys see that also?? or is that just me? |
| 04:31.27 | fiberchunks | yes, saw it |
| 04:31.31 | SGI | see what |
| 04:31.50 | Quol | the netsplit |
| 04:31.50 | learner | quol, tiny netsplit |
| 04:31.59 | SGI | where |
| 04:32.00 | fiberchunks | 3 person split :) |
| 04:32.00 | learner | you trepan, and prot-work |
| 04:32.12 | Quol | ya - just wonder if this is all related to the issues my ISP was/is having |
| 04:32.27 | learner | something bigger is probably going down |
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| 04:33.00 | *** mode/#bzflag [+ooo captain_proton ChanServ Chestal] by einstein.freenode.net |
| 04:33.01 | learner | wow, see |
| 04:33.01 | learner | big problems |
| 04:33.01 | Michaelh | ditto here |
| 04:33.02 | fiberchunks | freenode is having issues lately as well |
| 04:33.02 | Quol | 3 person - I saw everyone get kicked and then connect |
| 04:33.15 | fiberchunks | like over the past 4 days there have been a large number of splits |
| 04:33.23 | SGI | nice |
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| 04:33.45 | Quol | I have noticed that also... |
| 04:33.56 | learner | wow, asia and australia have taken a dive big time |
| 04:34.05 | fiberchunks | where are you seeing this? |
| 04:34.10 | Quol | SGI - you said TCP conflict - did you hear anything? |
| 04:34.12 | learner | 60 and 75 % |
| 04:34.20 | SGI | yes |
| 04:34.27 | Quol | ya - my oversees links show that also.... |
| 04:34.32 | learner | http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm |
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| 04:35.08 | Quol | i am looking at UUnet's graphs also |
| 04:35.08 | learner | where are those graphs quol? |
| 04:35.17 | fiberchunks | crazy |
| 04:35.22 | Quol | ahh - you have to have the login - only customers can get them... |
| 04:35.26 | Michaelh | interesting what funky results can occur when you don't clean the code... |
| 04:35.33 | learner | ah, okay |
| 04:35.46 | SGI | Quol you changed the address |
| 04:35.56 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: how'd you implement that 1.8 thingy where deactivated windows didn't pause? |
| 04:35.59 | Quol | not yet - I will now though.... |
| 04:36.15 | SGI | bzg I finished my installer last night |
| 04:36.17 | learner | apparently asia may be causing trouble for the rest of the world tonight.. I didn't remember seeing it marked on my calendar.. hrm. |
| 04:36.33 | fiberchunks | asia always causes problems -- troublemakers :p |
| 04:36.54 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: huh? |
| 04:36.54 | SGI | they dont have nothing to do |
| 04:36.55 | bzgirl | SGI good, you can play more bz now |
| 04:37.04 | learner | heh |
| 04:37.05 | MrApathyCream | there was some \set autoblabla command |
| 04:37.07 | SGI | I did |
| 04:37.09 | MrApathyCream | in 1.8 |
| 04:37.22 | SGI | tonight |
| 04:37.26 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: explain what you want to do? |
| 04:37.32 | SGI | you missed a great battle |
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| 04:37.59 | learner | that was one of the better games I've played in a while, sgi -- great game |
| 04:38.09 | fiberchunks | was much fun :) |
| 04:38.13 | learner | we had to fight for that flag |
| 04:38.37 | MrApathyCream | i want to run to bzflag's and have them both active |
| 04:38.46 | captain_proton | ohh |
| 04:38.46 | SGI | we fought for every "meters" |
| 04:38.51 | MrApathyCream | and tries |
| 04:38.52 | captain_proton | umm...the autopilot? |
| 04:39.26 | Quol | SGI: servers have been switched over to quol.bzflag.org now.... |
| 04:39.30 | Quol | they should be OK |
| 04:39.31 | captain_proton | iirc autopilot was its own command |
| 04:39.42 | captain_proton | so if you want to do it, implement that command, then bind a key to it |
| 04:39.42 | fiberchunks | are we playing again? |
| 04:39.44 | Michaelh | you just need to comment out where it "really" pauses |
| 04:39.49 | SGI | ill check it out tomorrow |
| 04:39.55 | Michaelh | then it wont |
| 04:40.03 | SGI | no i cant |
| 04:40.03 | MrApathyCream | autopilot yes |
| 04:40.08 | Michaelh | says somethign like "pause now" |
| 04:40.20 | fiberchunks | is ctf fun with 2v2? |
| 04:40.34 | SGI | I prefer 3vs3 |
| 04:40.40 | learner | megachirops, you in here? |
| 04:40.54 | fiberchunks | no |
| 04:40.55 | learner | fiber, oh yea -- good stuff |
| 04:41.12 | fiberchunks | well, we got me you bzgirl and quol ? |
| 04:41.13 | learner | much more personal team-play |
| 04:41.17 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: we don't have a console atm, so you'll have to bind it |
| 04:41.28 | learner | oo, tough crew |
| 04:41.31 | learner | that could be godo |
| 04:41.35 | SGI | 7th cavalry |
| 04:41.42 | learner | t/do/ |
| 04:42.04 | fiberchunks | quol and I would stay behind and bring up the rear, you and bzg can hash it out face to face :) |
| 04:42.16 | Quol | I am going to my CTF server to test it out - since it is onthe new URL now and running on a new server.... |
| 04:42.20 | learner | :) |
| 04:42.27 | SGI | you need help |
| 04:42.48 | SGI | we can test all together |
| 04:42.53 | fiberchunks | indeed :) |
| 04:43.07 | fiberchunks | but first! another beer |
| 04:43.14 | SGI | whic kind |
| 04:43.16 | learner | ah, good point |
| 04:43.19 | SGI | which |
| 04:43.30 | Michaelh | line 5551 of playing.cxx |
| 04:43.35 | SGI | fiber ...DDD |
| 04:43.38 | Michaelh | // now actually pause |
| 04:43.38 | Michaelh | myTank->setPause(true); |
| 04:43.56 | Quol | anyone is welcome to come SGI - I am in there now.... |
| 04:43.58 | SGI | Quol are oyu there |
| 04:44.04 | SGI | ok |
| 04:44.29 | captain_proton | Michaelh: the autopilot is a bit of a better option |
| 04:44.36 | captain_proton | it follows around the closest tank =) |
| 04:44.57 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (10 files in 4 dirs): More messing with the textures |
| 04:45.07 | fiberchunks | crappy beer SGI, uber-crappy |
| 04:46.37 | Michaelh | ah well .. it's what I did when I had to do something similar... |
| 04:46.50 | Michaelh | takes 2 keystokes to do it :) |
| 04:46.58 | captain_proton | scanline: cvs add data/blue_concrete.jpeg |
| 04:47.14 | scanline | whoops |
| 04:47.21 | Michaelh | does it stay a certain distance away |
| 04:47.28 | Michaelh | or does it just run through it? |
| 04:47.28 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org/images/bzflag/texture_experiment.jpeg |
| 04:47.46 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/data (blue_concrete.jpeg): Forgot a file |
| 04:47.46 | captain_proton | tries to set its own position to the same as theirs |
| 04:47.55 | Michaelh | kind of annoying :) |
| 04:48.40 | captain_proton | scanline: those rivets need to be bump-mapped |
| 04:49.13 | scanline | captain_proton: shouldn't be that important considering we have a mostly static light source |
| 04:49.38 | Michaelh | we need disco lights |
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| 04:50.01 | Michaelh | we need disco lights |
| 04:50.13 | captain_proton | how about red, green and blue lights in the corners? |
| 04:50.20 | Michaelh | aw man |
| 04:50.21 | scanline | that's a great idea! |
| 04:50.36 | Michaelh | of course it would have to be a pyramid :) |
| 04:52.50 | Michaelh | so does bzflag also do lunar eclipses etc? |
| 04:53.58 | Michaelh | could periodically blow up the sun...... |
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| 04:57.06 | scanline | methinks it's naptime |
| 04:58.09 | captain_proton | naptime? already? |
| 04:58.11 | captain_proton | its so early! |
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| 04:59.52 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/geometry (TankSceneNode.cxx): fix Thief visual size |
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| 05:08.46 | MrApathyCream | anyone please join me on the 1.9 world called THIEF_TESTING? |
| 05:09.56 | MrApathyCream | pweeasse? |
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| 05:17.38 | MrApathyCream | prot, can you join me on the server that says THIEF_TESTING? |
| 05:18.08 | prot-kernel | not at the moment |
| 05:18.11 | prot-kernel | system is a bit borked |
| 05:19.23 | MrApathyCream | ok |
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| 05:40.04 | JBDiGriz | learner: still around? |
| 05:40.07 | learner | yup |
| 05:40.24 | learner | I had a little of that "feeling" tonight, jb |
| 05:40.37 | fiberchunks | lo jb! ;) |
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| 05:41.50 | JBDiGriz | high fiber! |
| 05:42.03 | fiberchunks | no, regretfully, but thanks for asking :) |
| 05:42.19 | JBDiGriz | seemed an appropriate response tho! |
| 05:42.30 | fiberchunks | :) |
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| 05:43.39 | JBDiGriz | what did you think of the game at the q? |
| 05:43.53 | fiberchunks | loved it -- much fun, but my brain hurts ;) |
| 05:44.45 | fiberchunks | course, thinking about anything more than a cheeseburger will usually evoke that response :) |
| 05:45.11 | JBDiGriz | You live in the wrong part of the country. Cheeseburgers in paradise! |
| 05:45.48 | fiberchunks | heh, we used to have a 'margaritaville' till herr buffet decided he might sue -- now we have a margaritas |
| 05:46.14 | JBDiGriz | I'm surprised Jimmy had enough wits about him to think of suing. |
| 05:46.36 | fiberchunks | he didn't most likely -- was probably the lawyers |
| 05:51.17 | JBDiGriz | The kids are asleep, I can't make it too noisy right now! |
| 05:51.31 | fiberchunks | heh, I'm listening to techno |
| 05:52.40 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 05:53.14 | JBDiGriz | Who's this Norah you're "turning on"? |
| 05:53.20 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 05:53.30 | learner | Norah Jones |
| 05:54.01 | fiberchunks | oooo, here's my lame attempt at creating my first blendered scene: http://fiberchunks.bakadigital.com/images/foo.jpg |
| 05:54.27 | fiberchunks | gotta love them tutorials :) |
| 05:54.41 | learner | cool beans |
| 05:55.21 | fiberchunks | it is just a cube and a ball, with a wall and floor -- really spectacular stuff :) |
| 05:55.26 | prot-kernel | ooh |
| 05:55.30 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 05:55.46 | JBDiGriz | What does prot-kernel mean? |
| 05:55.54 | fiberchunks | course, considering that hellacious interface, I'm pretty proud of myself |
| 05:55.57 | learner | he promoted himself |
| 05:56.10 | fiberchunks | colonel_proton! |
| 05:56.16 | learner | heheh |
| 05:56.27 | prot-kernel | i decided i wanted an ipv6 addy =) |
| 05:56.27 | fiberchunks | in 3 yrs he'll be equiv to admiral_electron |
| 05:56.41 | fiberchunks | ah, cool - which sources you using? |
| 05:56.50 | prot-kernel | pfiefer |
| 05:57.04 | fiberchunks | I've been thinking about twiddling with 2.6-test |
| 05:57.18 | fiberchunks | got the sources, just haven't compiled yet |
| 05:57.39 | prot-kernel | USE=usagi |
| 05:57.54 | JBDiGriz | Does you ISP support V6 address ranges? |
| 05:58.03 | prot-kernel | i'm gonna let them put out a few more test kernels before i do 2.6 |
| 05:58.11 | prot-kernel | JBDiGriz: nope, but i'm gonna tunnel it through work ;) |
| 05:58.24 | fiberchunks | face get? |
| 05:58.32 | learner | heh, testing features |
| 05:58.36 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 05:58.43 | JBDiGriz | Did you get my face? |
| 05:59.17 | learner | hrm, not working |
| 05:59.24 | fiberchunks | well, from the folks in #gentoo -- 2.6-test seems so far, pretty good, plus it doesn't need patching for alsa, iptables, or any of the other voodoo (O1 scheduler) which is nice |
| 05:59.44 | prot-kernel | i'm sure its ok |
| 05:59.53 | prot-kernel | since they didn't label it greased turkey and put out test2 ;) |
| 05:59.59 | learner | wow, 7 sec delay |
| 05:59.59 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 06:00.22 | fiberchunks | you fiddle with any of the 2.5 branch? |
| 06:00.26 | prot-kernel | naw, my roommate has |
| 06:00.43 | fiberchunks | I have no face |
| 06:00.45 | fiberchunks | ;) |
| 06:00.53 | learner | odd, though |
| 06:00.53 | JBDiGriz | I have no mouth |
| 06:00.56 | learner | I'm not getting a reply |
| 06:01.09 | fiberchunks | you behind a NAT? I am |
| 06:01.21 | JBDiGriz | I'm behind a NAT |
| 06:01.30 | learner | I'm behind a NAT too |
| 06:01.35 | fiberchunks | probably -- I can't dcc send anything cause of my nat |
| 06:01.37 | learner | we're all natty |
| 06:01.52 | fiberchunks | of course :) |
| 06:01.52 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (ShotStrategy.cxx): make thief shots last longer |
| 06:02.04 | fiberchunks | ~dict natty |
| 06:02.08 | learner | hrm.. time to kick my router -- bbs |
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| 06:02.20 | learner | cool, didn't know that |
| 06:02.33 | JBDiGriz | I have a face though. http://www.metron.com/FaceSaver/ |
| 06:02.45 | learner | I've seen that one jb :) |
| 06:03.06 | learner | I was able to find a slew of people decoded |
| 06:03.20 | fiberchunks | you face is there? |
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| 06:03.39 | fiberchunks | your* |
| 06:03.45 | JBDiGriz | Yep |
| 06:04.00 | learner | It's like "Where's Waldo" |
| 06:04.18 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 06:04.26 | learner | cept there's nobody named waldo |
| 06:04.46 | learner | and not enough people |
| 06:04.46 | learner | and not enough color |
| 06:05.02 | JBDiGriz | We're not people of color.... |
| 06:05.09 | learner | oooo :) |
| 06:05.30 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 06:06.50 | fiberchunks | ooo, asia's @ 59% |
| 06:13.06 | JBDiGriz | Probably the Cisco vulnerability which was attacked today. |
| 06:13.32 | learner | hadn't heard about that yet |
| 06:14.49 | fiberchunks | probably |
| 06:15.01 | fiberchunks | it is summer time, so the script kiddies are rampant |
| 06:15.34 | prot-kernel | harumph, still building |
| 06:16.21 | prot-kernel | welp, our ciscos are updated ;) |
| 06:16.31 | prot-kernel | except for our 7000, which isn't supported anymore :P |
| 06:16.46 | prot-kernel | gonna replace that one with a 1u pc running 802.1q |
| 06:16.51 | fiberchunks | what vulnerability is this? |
| 06:17.00 | prot-kernel | DoS in IOS |
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| 06:19.18 | prot-kernel | hiya MrAC |
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| 06:26.21 | fiberchunks | nite you weasels you -- I'm off :) |
| 06:26.34 | learner | same here, gnite |
| 06:26.43 | learner | wicked games, good times |
| 06:26.49 | fiberchunks | indeed :) |
| 06:26.50 | MrAC | heya |
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| 07:14.06 | prot-kernel | bah, still panics :( |
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| 07:16.41 | fiberchunks | yay! :) |
| 07:36.25 | prot-kernel | erg, wtf! |
| 07:36.38 | prot-kernel | i upgrade to x 4.3 and ctrl+alt+fkey doesn't work anymore |
| 07:37.02 | fiberchunks | ooo, that's neat |
| 07:37.18 | fiberchunks | is it just alt+fkey? |
| 07:37.44 | prot-kernel | nope |
| 07:38.00 | fiberchunks | neat again |
| 07:39.02 | fiberchunks | im at 4.3.0-r2 and I don't have that problem |
| 07:39.24 | fiberchunks | you emerge -r3 or the 4.3.99 stuff? |
| 07:39.42 | fiberchunks | actually, those are all masked anyway |
| 07:41.20 | prot-kernel | -r3 |
| 07:41.37 | fiberchunks | hrm |
| 07:42.08 | fiberchunks | no screen for you! ;) |
| 07:43.50 | prot-kernel | hrm, weird |
| 07:44.09 | prot-kernel | they work in straight X (no programs) |
| 07:44.29 | fiberchunks | what, no WM? or just no proggies in general? |
| 07:44.39 | fiberchunks | well, nevermind that, I suppose twm is running |
| 07:47.19 | prot-kernel | seems to be something in the initrc |
| 07:48.43 | fiberchunks | what WM you use? |
| 07:49.01 | prot-kernel | sawfish |
| 07:49.04 | prot-kernel | i think it might be my modmap |
| 07:49.20 | prot-kernel | yep, 'tis the modmap |
| 07:49.22 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 07:56.28 | prot-kernel | ok, time to try this funky funky kernel |
| 07:56.42 | fiberchunks | heh, enjoy :) |
| 07:59.53 | prot-kernel | hm, so i fugged the input config |
| 07:59.55 | prot-kernel | but it booted |
| 08:00.14 | fiberchunks | well that's a start then |
| 08:00.43 | fiberchunks | I've really gotta noodle with that kernel -- I really look forward to it, and the lack of extraneous bullshit required to get sound and such going |
| 08:00.49 | prot-kernel | yep, just forgot to activate HID in the usb config |
| 08:01.07 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 08:02.11 | prot-kernel | ok, rebooting |
| 08:04.04 | prot-kernel | Linux bhaskara 2.6.0-test1 #2 Sat Jul 19 01:49:14 MDT 2003 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1700MHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux |
| 08:04.24 | prot-kernel | w000t |
| 08:04.24 | prot-kernel | lo Link encap:Local Loopback |
| 08:04.24 | prot-kernel | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:04.24 | prot-kernel | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:04.31 | prot-kernel | ::1/128 =D |
| 08:04.41 | fiberchunks | nice ipv6 in nice little wrappers :) |
| 08:05.12 | prot-kernel | i wonder if sound works |
| 08:05.24 | fiberchunks | you config alsa directly in the kernel?? |
| 08:05.30 | prot-kernel | yeah |
| 08:05.50 | fiberchunks | I'll be interested to hear what your results are |
| 08:09.02 | prot-kernel | well X starts |
| 08:09.20 | fiberchunks | that's a bonus -- what kind of vid card? |
| 08:10.14 | fiberchunks | a shame too - you missed some real good ctf action this evening |
| 08:10.24 | prot-kernel | gf3 |
| 08:10.38 | fiberchunks | ah, you didn't have to reemerge nvidia-foo? |
| 08:13.51 | prot-kernel | i had to reemerge the kernel module |
| 08:14.11 | prot-kernel | yayayay! |
| 08:14.14 | prot-kernel | they call me doctor worm |
| 08:14.18 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 08:14.43 | fiberchunks | hrm -- /me ponders taking a spare box and making it all ~x86 |
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| 08:17.44 | prot-kernel | ok, time to detach from this screen |
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| 08:20.27 | fiberchunks | lo again terras |
| 08:24.42 | captain_proton | urg |
| 08:24.49 | captain_proton | freenet6's web site seems to be down :( |
| 08:24.49 | fiberchunks | what now |
| 08:25.09 | fiberchunks | yah, probably a function of all the joy with cisco and what not |
| 08:26.15 | terras | I thought freenet6 was going off the air soon |
| 08:27.06 | captain_proton | naw, 6bone is going away |
| 08:27.10 | captain_proton | freenet6 is still active |
| 08:28.12 | terras | ah... I've been meaning to try out ipv6 |
| 08:34.39 | fiberchunks | so captain_proton, when you gonna have a full featured editor, so I have to pony up beverages for you and scan? |
| 08:34.40 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 08:35.11 | captain_proton | hrmph |
| 08:35.21 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 08:35.28 | captain_proton | i think my nat is playing cranky with the freenet6 client =/ |
| 08:36.09 | fiberchunks | there's a dude on #gentoo, #gentoo-laptop, and #gentoo-dev who's a wiz with ipv6 -- latexer |
| 08:39.29 | captain_proton | well - i can read more docs |
| 08:40.03 | fiberchunks | indeed, just lettin ya know -- he did a whole bunch of ipv6 work for gentoo recently, so you may wanna query him if necessary |
| 08:44.24 | terras | time to sleep |
| 08:44.32 | fiberchunks | later on |
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| 08:48.31 | captain_proton | erg! |
| 08:48.36 | captain_proton | what does error code 310 mean??! |
| 08:48.48 | fiberchunks | I have no idea -- kernel panic? |
| 08:49.03 | fiberchunks | what proggie? |
| 08:49.39 | captain_proton | the freenet6 client |
| 08:49.54 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 08:49.58 | fiberchunks | I have no idea |
| 09:04.50 | fiberchunks | later on captain_proton, gonna get some shut-eye |
| 09:04.54 | captain_proton | 'night |
| 09:17.52 | captain_proton | woof woof |
| 09:17.59 | captain_proton | i have no idea how to set the gateway on the route |
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| 11:44.12 | larsl_56k | ~country .mk |
| 11:44.13 | | methinks country .mk is macedonia |
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| 13:38.47 | Chikorita | mornin all |
| 13:42.17 | Chikorita | PeoPle!! |
| 13:42.17 | learner | heehheh |
| 13:42.24 | Chikorita | hiyaz learner! |
| 13:42.26 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 14:03.17 | Chikorita | ~d |
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| 14:20.27 | learner | wake up fiber! |
| 14:23.42 | Chikorita | lol |
| 14:23.47 | Chikorita | headbutt |
| 14:23.55 | Chikorita | dat should wake him up |
| 14:24.00 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 14:24.11 | learner | :) |
| 14:24.22 | Chikorita | |:@ @:) |
| 14:24.28 | Chikorita | ^^headbutt |
| 14:24.31 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 14:25.30 | Chikorita | imma make a lil irc cartoon |
| 14:26.02 | Chikorita | itz called "learner wake ums fiber up da hard way" |
| 14:26.09 | learner | hehe |
| 14:26.13 | Chikorita | -.- zzzzzz @:) |
| 14:26.22 | Chikorita | -.-zzzzzzzzzz @:) |
| 14:26.32 | Chikorita | -.- zzz @:) |
| 14:26.42 | Chikorita | O.O @:) |
| 14:26.53 | Chikorita | O.O -owwie |
| 14:27.08 | Chikorita | (:@ @:) |
| 14:27.18 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 14:27.20 | Chikorita | the end |
| 14:27.25 | learner | omg, lol |
| 14:28.27 | Chikorita | bbl |
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| 14:50.16 | Smilodon_ | Hola |
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| 15:19.12 | Chestal | hmm, strange. I do a cvs up and get nothing new? But I saw a couple commits on the ml? |
| 15:28.28 | drinian | Sometimes it seems like SourceForge takes time to make the commits available. I've noticed this happening at time, too. |
| 15:28.40 | drinian | Or something like that... |
| 15:29.57 | Chestal | anon CVS is supposed to lag liek 2 days behind, but I am using ssh |
| 15:30.05 | drinian | Oh... |
| 15:30.14 | Chestal | I wodner whether the commits really took place, hmm |
| 15:30.32 | drinian | Doesn't seem possible for the ml to wrong, though |
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| 16:25.00 | learner | I think I made the last commit chestal, last night |
| 16:26.22 | Chestal | I jsut tried a fresh checkout, same result, I don't get yesterday's changes |
| 16:26.25 | Chestal | not even the new data files |
| 16:26.40 | learner | Chestal: see if grep REG_NOSUB src/common/WordFilter.cxx returns anything |
| 16:26.56 | learner | should be no match |
| 16:28.32 | Chestal | hmm, something is wrong here, will start over with a fresh directory |
| 16:29.14 | learner | revision number on that same file should be 1.8 |
| 16:30.55 | Chestal | seems to have worked now, strange |
| 16:32.38 | Chestal | ./configure: line 2655: C: command not found uh? |
| 16:33.24 | learner | yea, I've seen that before |
| 16:33.37 | learner | not sure how it ends up getting in there |
| 16:33.52 | learner | it's right near the check for C++ in configure.in |
| 16:34.16 | Chestal | AC_LANG(C++) is in configure.in |
| 16:34.56 | Chestal | whatever that is supposed to do |
| 16:35.01 | learner | right, and that is close to the corresponding code where the "C" get's dumped |
| 16:35.44 | learner | AC_LANG(C++) is supposed to perform the check for what kind of C++ compiler you have |
| 16:36.03 | learner | or even if you have a C++ compiler |
| 16:37.01 | Chestal | 'C' seems to be a somewhat quick test to me :-) |
| 16:37.14 | learner | heh |
| 16:37.46 | learner | there's no hidden control codes that I can find in there, so I'm not sure why it borks |
| 16:43.13 | learner | Chestal, what system are you? linux? |
| 16:44.13 | Chestal | Debian, with automake 1.4-p6 |
| 16:44.35 | Chestal | at home I have 1.7.5, I will try there |
| 16:44.57 | learner | what's your autoconf version? |
| 16:45.13 | Chestal | 2.13 |
| 16:45.23 | Chestal | hmm, at home I don't see that message |
| 16:45.45 | learner | hmm I'm on 2.52, but it shouldn't matter.. |
| 16:45.52 | Chestal | instead I get 5 additional lines in configure at that place |
| 16:45.58 | Chestal | ac_ext=cc |
| 16:45.58 | Chestal | ac_cpp='$CXXCPP $CPPFLAGS' |
| 16:46.00 | Chestal | etc. |
| 16:46.13 | Chestal | here I only have a single 'C' line |
| 16:46.27 | Chestal | right before LIBS="-framework OpenGL $GLIBS $ac_func_search_save_LIBS" |
| 16:53.11 | learner | Chestal, would you scp me your configure? |
| 16:55.09 | Chestal | where to? |
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| 17:14.46 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 17:15.24 | Chikorita | *sigh* |
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| 17:38.15 | fiberchunks | learner> ah, chestal has seen it to eh? |
| 17:45.33 | learner | yea |
| 17:45.54 | learner | from what I can tell, autoconf version does seem to be the culprit |
| 17:46.59 | learner | AC_LANG(C++) deprecates the prior AC_LANG_CXX macro |
| 17:47.13 | fiberchunks | well, make it stop ;) |
| 17:48.27 | learner | people have to upgrade autoconf :/ |
| 17:48.50 | fiberchunks | to what version? |
| 17:49.03 | learner | latest :) |
| 17:49.05 | fiberchunks | I have 2.13 on my box, fyi |
| 17:49.23 | learner | I'm on 2.52 |
| 17:49.38 | fiberchunks | phbbt |
| 17:49.55 | learner | you wouldn't think that'd be the problem, but I can't find another reason |
| 17:51.14 | fiberchunks | learner> scratch that -- I have autoconf 2.57-r1 on my box |
| 17:51.22 | learner | eek! |
| 17:51.24 | learner | :( |
| 17:51.57 | learner | bugger all, I dunno |
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| 17:54.27 | MeanGene | anybody saw Storm around? |
| 17:54.37 | MeanGene | BiPs need another teammate for a match |
| 17:54.48 | MeanGene | Skipp is on ducati |
| 17:54.53 | Chikorita | ya i saw him |
| 17:55.04 | Chikorita | he was jus on like 2 hours ago |
| 17:55.14 | MeanGene | chiko - i know - saw him too |
| 17:55.15 | MeanGene | :-) |
| 17:55.24 | Chikorita | k |
| 17:55.43 | MeanGene | ciao |
| 17:56.27 | Chikorita | adeiu |
| 17:57.10 | fiberchunks | learner> yah, for some reason, when you do autoconf --version it reports something different than the installed package name |
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| 18:18.56 | fiberchunks | bzgirl you around? |
| 18:19.09 | orchid | yes |
| 18:19.28 | Chestal | we really need a good 'i am now the rabbit' sound |
| 18:19.46 | fiberchunks | got a response back from kevin the nanoblogger -- would you like me to forward it to you? |
| 18:19.52 | bzgirl | sure |
| 18:19.53 | Chestal | any1 up for a test of the thief flag? |
| 18:19.58 | fiberchunks | k |
| 18:20.21 | doughecka | whos kevin? |
| 18:20.38 | fiberchunks | oh, you already got it -- didn't realize he copied both of us |
| 18:20.59 | bzgirl | oh i thought it was a new one |
| 18:21.11 | bzgirl | doughecka: he wrote a blog app |
| 18:21.17 | bzgirl | doughecka: http://home.columbus.rr.com/n1xt3r/nanoblogger/ |
| 18:21.33 | doughecka | hmm |
| 18:21.49 | fiberchunks | the one about the new release, with support for calendar |
| 18:21.49 | doughecka | bash!! hahahaha :) |
| 18:22.10 | fiberchunks | works really well, once you understand the quirks |
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| 18:38.04 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.18 | Chikorita | learner! |
| 18:41.47 | learner | oh! |
| 18:43.59 | doughecka | gah :) |
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| 18:49.39 | learner | chika..... |
| 18:50.01 | fiberchunks | learna..... |
| 18:50.04 | Bagheera | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGG |
| 18:50.11 | fiberchunks | indeed |
| 18:50.12 | Bagheera | sry, needed to do that |
| 18:50.35 | fiberchunks | 'tension breaker, had to be done' |
| 18:51.06 | Bagheera | getting tired of the people in ctf who rejoin just to pick you off before you can get to their flag, that and life in general |
| 18:51.31 | bzgirl | its a popular tactic now |
| 18:51.55 | fiberchunks | lovely, that sounds as bad as the pause tactic |
| 18:51.56 | Bagheera | yepper it is |
| 18:52.08 | bzgirl | maybe a rejoin timeout -rj 5s |
| 18:52.13 | Chikorita | hi bagghera |
| 18:52.14 | Bagheera | at least there is a delay on the pause now |
| 18:52.35 | Bagheera | oooooooo, a rejoin timeout, that would be nice |
| 18:52.45 | Bagheera | or timein as the case maybe |
| 18:52.55 | bzgirl | the pause delay ended Ubik The Pauser's career, poor guy |
| 18:52.56 | Bagheera | hey chick |
| 18:53.00 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZTank.jpg |
| 18:53.18 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 18:53.24 | Bagheera | new tank? |
| 18:53.33 | Patlabor221 | our tank, tweaked |
| 18:54.02 | Bagheera | multi-color? |
| 18:54.06 | fiberchunks | I like the recoil suppressor :) |
| 18:54.17 | Bagheera | :) |
| 18:54.19 | Patlabor221 | the color is just to see the parts |
| 18:54.23 | Patlabor221 | it hasn't been textured yet |
| 18:54.43 | Patlabor221 | is the barel too long? |
| 18:54.50 | Bagheera | looks more realistic |
| 18:55.18 | fiberchunks | no, the turret is positioned too far forward |
| 18:55.28 | Patlabor221 | I didn't move it |
| 18:55.30 | fiberchunks | the tank is proportionally 'weird' |
| 18:55.39 | fiberchunks | I know -- that's a general statement :) |
| 18:55.39 | Patlabor221 | all I did was make it wider :) |
| 18:55.55 | fiberchunks | it would be top heavy in real life, imho |
| 18:56.00 | Bagheera | looks ok to me.....looks like a car wing in the back |
| 18:56.19 | Patlabor221 | that's from the origonal too |
| 18:56.33 | Bagheera | maybe add some neon lights underneath :) |
| 18:56.47 | Patlabor221 | riiiighhhhhtttt |
| 18:56.47 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 18:56.53 | fiberchunks | heh, ground effects -- add some woofers to the ass end |
| 18:56.54 | Chikorita | yea a spoiler |
| 18:56.58 | Chikorita | jus like mah car |
| 18:56.59 | bzgirl | Patlabor221: i liked that blue one from the other day better |
| 18:57.09 | Bagheera | holy mackerl, that is one expensive tool you are using |
| 18:57.21 | fiberchunks | slap some fuzzy dice on the end of the barrel ;) |
| 18:57.37 | *** part/#bzflag drinian (~Adam@pcp153139pcs.hamntn01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 18:57.55 | Bagheera | where does the bobble head dog go? |
| 18:58.03 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 18:58.11 | Patlabor221 | the barrel is about 10% longer then the old tank |
| 18:58.27 | Bagheera | that i did notice |
| 18:58.29 | Patlabor221 | tho at least this one has some ground clearance |
| 18:58.53 | fiberchunks | if you shifted the turret back on the chassis about a cm (reference that sshot), then it'd look fine |
| 18:59.42 | Bagheera | arent the recoil surpressers usually on the end? |
| 19:00.03 | Patlabor221 | muzzle brakes are at the end |
| 19:00.10 | fiberchunks | sometimes, but I think the m1-a1 has a suppresor like that |
| 19:00.10 | Patlabor221 | supporessiors more near the middle |
| 19:00.26 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/oldtank.jpg |
| 19:00.30 | learner | anyone here have dcc working through a firewall? what port is it trying to use? |
| 19:01.13 | fiberchunks | yah, wow, I never noticed how far from the CG the turret was |
| 19:01.16 | Bagheera | not me, that i know of |
| 19:02.14 | fiberchunks | learner you could ask in #freenode what ports it uses |
| 19:04.17 | Bagheera | is the bullet collision still the bottom of the tank?......wondering if the visual ground cleareance may look wierd |
| 19:04.47 | Patlabor221 | Mac made it 3d |
| 19:04.48 | learner | thx fiber |
| 19:04.52 | fiberchunks | np |
| 19:05.20 | Chikorita | dat would b kewl if wee could have our choice of tank types |
| 19:05.22 | Bagheera | :) |
| 19:06.00 | Chikorita | like fast buh shorter bullet range ...or slower buh longer bullet range ectect. |
| 19:06.08 | Chikorita | stuff like dat |
| 19:06.44 | learner | heh, not too useful fiber... |
| 19:06.46 | Bagheera | thats what flags are for, that and parades |
| 19:06.46 | Chikorita | choices r good :) |
| 19:06.47 | learner | #freenode The channel demigods have stolen your voice |
| 19:06.54 | fiberchunks | learner> well that sucks |
| 19:06.54 | doughecka | hehe |
| 19:07.01 | fiberchunks | how bout just #chat then |
| 19:07.07 | doughecka | its a moderated channel |
| 19:07.39 | fiberchunks | bah |
| 19:07.44 | doughecka | how about #21wdsddsds |
| 19:07.46 | doughecka | or #bzflagggg |
| 19:09.20 | fiberchunks | I suppose you could /msg lilo learner -- he's one of the IRCops |
| 19:09.41 | Patlabor221 | DCC is a client client thing, dosn't use the server iirc |
| 19:09.43 | Patlabor221 | check your IRC app |
| 19:09.47 | Bagheera | i think i liked it better without the recoil thingy |
| 19:10.01 | learner | I think I'm supposed to message a particular person in #freenode |
| 19:10.02 | Bagheera | IMHO |
| 19:10.05 | learner | I'm going to give that a try |
| 19:10.34 | doughecka | whats this about? |
| 19:10.43 | fiberchunks | the recoil thing could probably use a little scaling down, but I'd like to see it with a texture first :) |
| 19:11.43 | Bagheera | looks a little like a phallic end piece, textures might help, either that or clean my mind out a little |
| 19:12.31 | fiberchunks | that might do it :) |
| 19:13.08 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZTank2.jpg |
| 19:13.48 | doughecka | almost looks like a river barge with a big gun |
| 19:13.58 | doughecka | needs actual tracks :) |
| 19:13.58 | Bagheera | lol |
| 19:14.10 | Patlabor221 | it's not textured yet dingus |
| 19:14.15 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:15.03 | fiberchunks | dingus! ;) |
| 19:15.25 | Patlabor221 | dingus |
| 19:15.40 | fiberchunks | oooo, yeah, that's better |
| 19:15.54 | Bagheera | the barrel got bigger at the end? |
| 19:16.21 | fiberchunks | and shortened too |
| 19:16.34 | Chikorita | byez |
| 19:16.48 | Patlabor221 | it got shorter |
| 19:16.51 | Patlabor221 | and the brake moved |
| 19:17.37 | Bagheera | gas pedal still inthe same place |
| 19:17.47 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 19:18.02 | fiberchunks | 'why are there 6 pedals, but only 4 directions?' ;) |
| 19:18.17 | doughecka | whats that from? |
| 19:18.40 | fiberchunks | rvb |
| 19:18.46 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:19.08 | Patlabor221 | "now that you have masterd driveing the tank.." " no, no I haven't....." |
| 19:19.16 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 19:19.27 | Patlabor221 | poor dohnut |
| 19:19.30 | doughecka | lol |
| 19:19.43 | fiberchunks | is ep13 out yet? |
| 19:19.46 | Patlabor221 | plas to the mellon |
| 19:19.46 | Patlabor221 | I' |
| 19:19.50 | learner | fiber.. that worked :) |
| 19:19.51 | Patlabor221 | I'm checking now |
| 19:19.55 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 19:19.58 | fiberchunks | what ports? |
| 19:20.01 | learner | had to talk to a channel staff first |
| 19:20.21 | learner | and then they turned on my vocal chords (after they couldn't answer the question) |
| 19:20.39 | learner | still waiting on an answer, though.. |
| 19:20.46 | learner | which doesn't sound promising |
| 19:20.54 | doughecka | most of them are out |
| 19:20.57 | doughecka | :) |
| 19:20.59 | learner | apparently dcc uses random ports similar to ftp |
| 19:21.04 | Bagheera | really should read a manual on the this irc stuff....... |
| 19:21.17 | doughecka | learner: yea, it uses a port range |
| 19:21.21 | Bagheera | that was directed at me |
| 19:21.27 | learner | do you know the range? |
| 19:21.35 | doughecka | client configurable |
| 19:21.41 | doughecka | check ur settings |
| 19:21.42 | learner | hrm |
| 19:22.07 | fiberchunks | learner-- xchat? |
| 19:22.17 | learner | no, ircle |
| 19:22.23 | fiberchunks | ah, phbbt |
| 19:22.58 | Bagheera | i need to get a translator for all the shortcuts put in here |
| 19:23.01 | learner | oh.. I've found the dcc settings |
| 19:23.09 | learner | there is a port range for sending |
| 19:23.18 | learner | what about receiving? |
| 19:23.26 | fiberchunks | in /etc/services -- it states that irc uses 194 tcp/udp for something - I have no idea what though |
| 19:23.42 | doughecka | maybe the clients talk to each other and swap port ranges it uses |
| 19:26.13 | learner | my firewall already allows that port |
| 19:26.45 | fiberchunks | learner> see here: http://www.visualirc.net/board/viewtopic.php?TopicID=1056 |
| 19:26.50 | fiberchunks | it may help, dunno |
| 19:31.21 | Bagheera | fyi to all Pink Floyd fans, DONT GET THE PULSE ALBUM |
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| 19:54.36 | doughecka | its healthy stuff ya know |
| 19:54.46 | doughecka | hah |
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| 19:57.59 | doughecka | connection problems? |
| 19:58.07 | learner | heh, no not really |
| 19:58.15 | learner | trying to get dcc to work |
| 19:58.20 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:58.22 | learner | dcc send apparently crashes my client |
| 19:58.27 | doughecka | hah |
| 19:59.31 | learner | still no go :( |
| 19:59.33 | doughecka | I dunno, my firewall is icky too |
| 19:59.43 | learner | I get the offer though.. must still be missing some ports |
| 19:59.50 | doughecka | yea |
| 20:00.09 | doughecka | btw I have ports 1 65000 forwarded to myself |
| 20:00.13 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:00.16 | doughecka | it should work |
| 20:00.32 | learner | heh, lemme try that for kicks |
| 20:00.47 | doughecka | hehe |
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| 20:04.45 | doughecka | nope |
| 20:04.52 | doughecka | *** DCC CHAT connection to learner lost. Error code 10054 |
| 20:04.53 | learner | odd.. |
| 20:04.59 | doughecka | I bet its me |
| 20:05.00 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:05.03 | learner | did you initiate? |
| 20:05.07 | doughecka | I never could get dcc to work |
| 20:05.08 | doughecka | yea |
| 20:05.20 | learner | heh, I initiated at exactly the same moment |
| 20:05.25 | doughecka | haha |
| 20:05.39 | doughecka | cya :) |
| 20:05.47 | doughecka | learner: hmm :) |
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| 20:06.18 | learner | hi sussi |
| 20:06.33 | sussi | hi all |
| 20:08.54 | learner | cat /dev/null > edonkey |
| 20:09.14 | learner | er /dev/random |
| 20:09.46 | doughecka | :P |
| 20:10.18 | doughecka | commandline doesnt work right... |
| 20:10.19 | doughecka | hrm |
| 20:11.22 | doughecka | woo |
| 20:11.34 | learner | w00t |
| 20:12.01 | doughecka | its my end |
| 20:12.05 | doughecka | I cant start anything |
| 20:12.09 | doughecka | try sending to me |
| 20:12.16 | learner | perhaps |
| 20:12.24 | learner | uh.. heh.. can't send -- crashes |
| 20:12.30 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:12.33 | doughecka | get a new client |
| 20:12.33 | learner | I think it's just a bug, though |
| 20:12.41 | doughecka | xchat |
| 20:21.57 | learner | doug, are you sending? |
| 20:22.34 | doughecka | bah, off to mow some grass |
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| 20:38.02 | fiberchunks | lo |
| 20:38.10 | fiberchunks | lunch -- mmmm cheeseburger |
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| 20:42.37 | captain_pistachi | hrmph |
| 20:43.21 | captain_pistachi | ohh right all the systems at work are down because they're working on the power distribution |
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| 20:52.02 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o captain_pistachi] by ChanServ |
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| 20:52.31 | larsl_56k | ~xmission |
| 20:52.40 | larsl_56k | Buba is flipping direction in mid air. |
| 20:53.57 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: who was that guy? |
| 20:55.21 | captain_proton | nevermind, found it in the backlog |
| 21:04.21 | fiberchunks | learner, you around? |
| 21:04.23 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 21:06.12 | larsl_56k | XUL is cheating too, he spawns carrying flags (GM, L, ST...). |
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| 21:08.46 | larsl_56k | Or perhaps he's telling his client to spawn right on top of those flags, I don't know. |
| 21:10.27 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (worldviewer.py): Make the worldviewer use the 3D view by default |
| 21:10.35 | learner | I'm here |
| 21:15.47 | captain_proton | arg! |
| 21:16.09 | captain_proton | autoconf seems to be setting some default routes (that i can't get rid of?!) without thinking about maybe needing a gateway |
| 21:16.11 | captain_proton | err |
| 21:16.13 | captain_proton | addrconf |
| 21:21.14 | JBDiGriz | learner: How many people attend SIGGRAPH? |
| 21:21.35 | learner | between 25-50K usually |
| 21:21.44 | learner | depends on location and economy |
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| 21:22.11 | JBDiGriz | I just came back from trying to get into the convention center for Comic-con. The entrance line was about 2 miles long. |
| 21:23.25 | fiberchunks | that's precisely why I don't attend conferences |
| 21:24.04 | learner | heh, siggraph's usually pretty darn organized |
| 21:24.42 | learner | I've never waited more than a few minutes to register or get registration materials |
| 21:26.01 | JBDiGriz | We decided to have lunch somewhere else, and forget the con for this year. |
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| 21:41.22 | fiberchunks | is there such an animal for an IRC RFC? |
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| 21:41.33 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 21:41.34 | fiberchunks | s/for an/as an |
| 21:41.47 | captain_proton | harumph! |
| 21:45.31 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: Googling for something like IRC RFC leads to RFC1459 and an assortment of other relevant RFC's. Try http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/ |
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| 21:51.15 | fiberchunks | yah, got that |
| 22:00.01 | fiberchunks | captain_proton> is there a list of all the messages that exist between the client and the server right now? |
| 22:00.14 | captain_proton | there's the protocol doc... |
| 22:00.17 | captain_proton | which is mostly accurate |
| 22:00.33 | fiberchunks | k, cool |
| 22:03.30 | captain_proton | i've got a fang, i've got a fang, i've got a fang |
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| 22:08.38 | doughecka | fang? |
| 22:10.39 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (4 files in 3 dirs): New bricks |
| 22:19.10 | Patlabor221 | cap did you see my redux of the BZ tank? |
| 22:19.27 | captain_proton | no |
| 22:19.43 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZTank2.jpg |
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| 22:20.18 | scanline | ooh, tread covers |
| 22:20.27 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:20.57 | Patlabor221 | just some updating of the old beast |
| 22:21.09 | Patlabor221 | all the parts are closed now as well |
| 22:22.47 | captain_proton | nifty |
| 22:25.18 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 22:25.29 | captain_proton | i think i can't do this without a publically routable IP |
| 22:27.42 | captain_proton | and i'm workin' undercover for the man...cha la la la la |
| 22:43.33 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (5 files in 3 dirs): New outer wall textures |
| 22:45.34 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 22:45.41 | captain_proton | apparently they're auctioning off JFK's underpants |
| 22:45.53 | JBDiGriz | Patlabor221: I'm glad you didn't make the trek to comic-con today. |
| 22:46.49 | fiberchunks | complete with 'chocolate joy sauce'? |
| 22:48.33 | captain_proton | oh man |
| 22:48.45 | captain_proton | i'd forgotten how good lisa's newer stuff is |
| 22:48.55 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Tweak wall texture |
| 22:51.59 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org/images/bzflag/new_brick_and_wall.jpeg |
| 22:52.29 | captain_proton | heh |
| 22:52.48 | captain_proton | i'm not so sure about your 'platform' boxsides |
| 22:53.26 | captain_proton | i do like the old wall texture |
| 22:53.43 | scanline | it looked like an AOL web page background |
| 22:53.54 | captain_proton | perhaps instead of replacing it, it could just be enimproved with multitexturing? |
| 22:54.33 | scanline | I didn't see how.. feel free to try though |
| 22:57.58 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 22:58.12 | captain_proton | one of my coworkers apparently just drew a picture of dirk and his powered-by-linux gun |
| 22:59.15 | doughecka | "just" drew? :) must be an artist |
| 22:59.31 | fiberchunks | how hard would it be to add (if there isn't already) a 'gamestyle' flag? |
| 22:59.42 | fiberchunks | or is there already such a thing? |
| 22:59.43 | captain_proton | gamestyle flag? huh? |
| 23:00.01 | fiberchunks | just wondering, like a bitfield that specifies CTF, FFA, rabbit, etc |
| 23:00.13 | captain_proton | we've got that |
| 23:00.15 | Patlabor221 | it's sent |
| 23:00.22 | fiberchunks | ah, what's it called? |
| 23:00.31 | Patlabor221 | gamestyle I think |
| 23:00.34 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 23:02.56 | Patlabor221 | yay bottom of the tank is UV maped :) |
| 23:04.38 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/half.jpg |
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| 23:09.52 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 23:10.02 | captain_proton | my card doesn't do ARB_fragment_program?? :P |
| 23:37.58 | Patlabor221 | what card? |
| 23:38.15 | Patlabor221 | GF3 right? |
| 23:38.16 | Patlabor221 | it should |
| 23:39.10 | captain_proton | yeah, gf3 |
| 23:39.19 | captain_proton | its weird |
| 23:39.24 | captain_proton | i've got ARB_vertex_program |
| 23:39.37 | Patlabor221 | phear the power of full, proper UV maps, http://www.bakadigital.com/full.jpg |
| 23:40.00 | captain_proton | i wanna see it textured |
| 23:40.09 | Patlabor221 | that's what I'm doing now |
| 23:40.13 | Patlabor221 | had to map it first |
| 23:40.49 | fiberchunks | nifty |
| 23:42.05 | captain_proton | hm, looks like i have an older version of the glx package |
| 23:43.23 | captain_proton | can a real artist please take pity on scanline and make some real textures for pybzflag? |
| 23:43.43 | fiberchunks | yah, pat ;) |
| 23:46.34 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: for what? |
| 23:47.14 | fiberchunks | to whangle an artist *ahem* pat to make textures for your fun thang ;) |
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| 23:47.35 | scanline | captain_proton: you'd think that if the pity thing actually worked, crystalspace would have some real art though |
| 23:47.45 | captain_proton | scanline: you'd think |
| 23:48.13 | fiberchunks | course, you could also ask derv -- too :) |
| 23:48.29 | captain_proton | bah |
| 23:48.40 | captain_proton | no offsense to him, but he's a pain to deal with |
| 23:48.53 | captain_proton | mr "i'm a professional tester but can't provide a useful bug report to save my life" |
| 23:49.48 | Patlabor221 | damnit, missed 2 faces |
| 23:50.31 | captain_proton | yay, new ietf shirt! |
| 23:56.41 | captain_proton | scanline: you should get CgLabs from nvidia and go through the two exercises |
| 23:57.06 | scanline | CgLabs? |
| 23:58.25 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 23:58.35 | captain_proton | its this program thingy for writing/testing shaders |
| 23:58.53 | scanline | got a URL? searches at nvidia.com and google turn up nothing |
| 23:59.11 | captain_proton | http://developer.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=cg_labs |
| 23:59.52 | scanline | ooh, big shell script |
