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| 00:36.10 | CIA | crisb opened Bugs 762209 (Not able to choose soundcard on linux): |
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| 00:51.43 | thunderbear | game starting soon |
| 00:51.49 | thunderbear | on bzflag.trilug.org |
| 00:57.19 | CIA | micahjd changed Bugs 762209 (Not able to choose soundcard on linux): |
| 01:38.55 | CIA | commit by brlcad: added bunny resources |
| 01:48.12 | CIA | crisb changed Bugs 762209 (Not able to choose soundcard on linux): |
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| 02:05.37 | bryjen | ~bzflist |
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| 02:40.54 | tvon | effing sound |
| 02:42.27 | tvon | anything goony with alsa and bz? |
| 02:42.36 | tvon | wouldnt think so...but I havent needed to use alsa for sound in a coons age |
| 02:46.00 | tvon | ah, rebuild fixed it |
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| 03:22.32 | learner | hehe, pat |
| 03:22.38 | radicaledward | ed has found it! |
| 03:22.43 | radicaledward | ;) |
| 03:22.48 | scanline | yay |
| 03:22.59 | scanline | now we just need ein... |
| 03:23.09 | radicaledward | have you seen iT? |
| 03:23.12 | radicaledward | the newness? |
| 03:23.17 | scanline | newness? |
| 03:23.20 | radicaledward | ed likes it when it rains |
| 03:23.26 | radicaledward | IT, it you know it. |
| 03:23.49 | scanline | hmmmm |
| 03:23.54 | radicaledward | with ed and all of bebop |
| 03:23.54 | scanline | quack! |
| 03:24.02 | radicaledward | oooo ducks |
| 03:24.03 | scanline | movie? |
| 03:24.14 | radicaledward | smart! |
| 03:24.55 | radicaledward | edward has |
| 03:25.04 | radicaledward | edward has here |
| 03:25.05 | scanline | I bet you have |
| 03:25.39 | radicaledward | edward make for you |
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| 03:26.03 | radicaledward | edward says hello to the mr. |
| 03:26.05 | radicaledward | hello mr. |
| 03:26.35 | radicaledward | and fishies |
| 03:26.40 | scanline | yay! |
| 03:26.42 | radicaledward | ein helps |
| 03:27.20 | MrApathyCream | howdy |
| 03:27.44 | radicaledward | Mac plays with horsies, edward likes horsies |
| 03:29.32 | MrApathyCream | heh |
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| 03:29.48 | Patlabor221 | it is really good scanline |
| 03:29.52 | Patlabor221 | better then I expected |
| 03:30.07 | scanline | darth_mall has a copy of it, he's gonna let me borrow it sometime |
| 03:30.42 | Patlabor221 | the music is great too |
| 03:30.52 | Patlabor221 | spike gets TOE up |
| 03:31.07 | scanline | hmm.. |
| 03:31.28 | scanline | I need another DVD drive, wasabi doesn't have enough disk space for a DVD rip |
| 03:31.30 | Patlabor221 | have you watched them all? |
| 03:31.33 | scanline | yes |
| 03:31.43 | scanline | but I should watch them again =) |
| 03:31.49 | Patlabor221 | sadly I have no drives of decent size |
| 03:32.06 | scanline | np, I'm going to pick one up when we get our Upgrade of Doom |
| 03:32.07 | Patlabor221 | or do you just need a dvdrom? |
| 03:32.35 | scanline | well, I moved the DVD drive from yoshi to wasabi so we could use wasabi to play DVDs on the TV... and I was using wasabi to rip for a while, but now its disk is too full |
| 03:32.59 | Patlabor221 | may have a dvd ram somwhere |
| 03:33.04 | scanline | hehe |
| 03:33.23 | Patlabor221 | we had a pile of them |
| 03:33.24 | Patlabor221 | wierd drives |
| 03:33.39 | Patlabor221 | took dvd writeables in a caddy |
| 03:34.32 | scanline | strange |
| 03:34.58 | Patlabor221 | yeah but could burn 4 gigs a side :) |
| 03:35.17 | scanline | how much does the media cost these days? |
| 03:35.35 | Patlabor221 | for what RAM or +-R ? |
| 03:36.15 | Patlabor221 | RAMs are bout 4$ a pop |
| 03:36.24 | Patlabor221 | -R is around 0.75$ each |
| 03:36.43 | Patlabor221 | +R is a bit more |
| 03:37.11 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:37.36 | Patlabor221 | I think we sell a toshiba -r drive for like 170 |
| 03:38.29 | Patlabor221 | 179 |
| 03:38.41 | scanline | well, I just need a simple DVD-ROM :) |
| 03:38.51 | scanline | will probably just pick one up along with a SB Live when we do this navi upgrade of doom |
| 03:38.55 | Patlabor221 | the RAM will read normal DVDs |
| 03:39.10 | Patlabor221 | lives are cheap |
| 03:39.13 | scanline | yep |
| 03:40.14 | Patlabor221 | well time to see if I can remake the bunny map |
| 03:40.25 | Patlabor221 | asuming I fixed the edit bug |
| 03:41.12 | learner | speaking of such, pat... |
| 03:41.23 | learner | bzedit wouldn't fire up for me last night |
| 03:41.32 | learner | dll error |
| 03:41.34 | Patlabor221 | did you speak softly to it? |
| 03:41.39 | learner | :) |
| 03:41.41 | Patlabor221 | did you get the dllkit? |
| 03:41.43 | learner | yep |
| 03:41.51 | Patlabor221 | what was it missing? |
| 03:42.13 | learner | have you tried running it on win95... :) that's probably the problem |
| 03:42.20 | learner | some unresolved symbol |
| 03:42.31 | learner | I could look it up if you really want to know |
| 03:42.39 | Patlabor221 | it should have told you what DLL, I can send you the dll |
| 03:42.57 | learner | oh, the dll was there, just missing the symbol it was looking for |
| 03:43.12 | learner | lemme fire it up again |
| 03:43.21 | Patlabor221 | you have old version of DLL then |
| 03:43.33 | Patlabor221 | 95 has an older mfc runtime |
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| 03:43.49 | learner | I replace existing with what you sent |
| 03:43.57 | Patlabor221 | hmmm |
| 03:44.23 | Patlabor221 | well I didn't sent all the dlls that it uses, just the ones that are missing on wine |
| 03:44.45 | learner | mkay here it is |
| 03:45.22 | learner | I should prefix this (since you ran off before I could banter last night about it.. :) with how much I *miss* dllhell in windows.. :) |
| 03:45.48 | learner | ok, the error is with MSVCRT.DLL |
| 03:45.50 | Patlabor221 | that dies with 2k |
| 03:45.55 | Patlabor221 | com |
| 03:45.57 | Patlabor221 | com is cool |
| 03:46.02 | Patlabor221 | in that ONE thing |
| 03:46.06 | Patlabor221 | the rest blows |
| 03:46.13 | learner | "linked to missing export NTDLL>DLL-RdGetNtVersionNumbers" |
| 03:46.21 | Patlabor221 | ooooooo |
| 03:46.27 | learner | er, s/>/./ |
| 03:46.34 | Patlabor221 | yeah that aint gonna work on 95 |
| 03:46.40 | Patlabor221 | need at least 98 |
| 03:46.52 | learner | then I get a BZedit.exe error saying something abou ta device attached to the system is not functioning .. :) |
| 03:46.56 | Patlabor221 | your missing one of the core v5 windows calls |
| 03:47.03 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 03:47.06 | learner | :) I figured something as such |
| 03:47.11 | Patlabor221 | can you get 98? |
| 03:47.16 | Patlabor221 | 95 is a bastard child |
| 03:47.20 | Patlabor221 | noone supports it anymore |
| 03:47.23 | Patlabor221 | not even MS |
| 03:47.49 | learner | well, that bastard lives on an emulator, so I'm not about to care.. :) |
| 03:48.10 | Patlabor221 | ohh it lives on in many things |
| 03:48.13 | learner | I'll try it elsewhere when I get the chance.. :) |
| 03:48.18 | Patlabor221 | no wine for OSX? |
| 03:48.43 | learner | I dunno -- perhaps, I haven't followed that stuff |
| 03:48.53 | Patlabor221 | it runs in wine the say |
| 03:49.01 | learner | even this emulator is a carry-over from 4-5 years ago |
| 03:49.03 | Patlabor221 | relyable source say |
| 03:49.07 | Patlabor221 | with glee even |
| 03:49.11 | learner | I'll keep that in mind |
| 03:49.39 | learner | hehe, "glee"? |
| 03:49.50 | Patlabor221 | of this I do not lie |
| 03:49.58 | Patlabor221 | of many many other things I do. |
| 03:50.07 | learner | heh |
| 03:50.35 | Patlabor221 | what is Tac? |
| 03:50.41 | learnerEatingTac | dang clipping |
| 03:50.43 | Patlabor221 | that stuff you hang posters with? |
| 03:50.46 | Patlabor221 | that has to be nasty |
| 03:50.48 | Patlabor221 | and not good |
| 03:50.51 | Patlabor221 | chew well |
| 03:50.56 | Patlabor221 | really realy well |
| 03:51.01 | learnerEatnTacos | lol |
| 03:51.04 | Patlabor221 | you can't make tacos out of Tac |
| 03:51.11 | Patlabor221 | that would be worse |
| 03:51.17 | learnerEatnTacos | LOL! |
| 03:51.29 | Patlabor221 | the beans would melt it |
| 03:51.39 | Patlabor221 | you need a napican |
| 03:51.51 | learnerEatnTacos | ~dict napican |
| 03:51.58 | learnerEatnTacos | :) |
| 03:52.16 | learnerEatnTacos | ~dict napkin |
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| 03:52.56 | Patlabor221 | sorry for my accent |
| 03:52.59 | Patlabor221 | I'm welsh |
| 03:53.09 | learnerEatnTacos | hehe |
| 03:53.33 | learnerEatnTacos | actually, I probably do need a napican for the tacos made out of tac |
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| 03:54.22 | Patlabor221 | as I have said to many people before "I shit you not!" |
| 03:54.52 | learnerEatnTacos | heh, otherwise, I'd *really* need a napkin |
| 03:55.03 | Patlabor221 | ooo new BZEdit function is nice |
| 03:55.10 | learnerEatnTacos | sure, rub it in |
| 03:55.23 | Patlabor221 | well it is, I call it "don't crap on save" |
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| 03:56.26 | learnerEatnTacos | where can I find docs on admin commands? |
| 03:56.36 | Patlabor221 | awwww perantly we arn't good enough for old LT.D |
| 03:56.44 | Patlabor221 | in the secret place |
| 03:56.50 | learnerEatnTacos | ?? |
| 03:57.14 | Patlabor221 | http://asgard.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/BZAdminCommands.txt |
| 03:57.33 | learnerEatnTacos | you are the man |
| 03:57.34 | learnerEatnTacos | thx |
| 03:57.48 | Patlabor221 | well I should hope so |
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| 04:01.43 | learnerEatnTacos | sick or just scratching for a little bit of alcohol? |
| 04:01.46 | Patlabor221 | at that point I do not hold myself responsible for my actions |
| 04:01.49 | Patlabor221 | sick |
| 04:01.55 | learnerEatnTacos | sry, dude |
| 04:02.04 | Patlabor221 | not your fault, I will live :) |
| 04:05.05 | Patlabor221 | ok maybe I should put in a confim when you hit new and have a dirry map |
| 04:05.09 | Patlabor221 | that just sucked |
| 04:05.32 | Patlabor221 | how do people use this peice os crap? |
| 04:07.31 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: run po files through poSyncer to get them up to date |
| 04:07.55 | learnerEatnTacos | in g2, do you have to be a real player to issue admin commands, or will observer work? |
| 04:08.38 | Patlabor221 | anyone loged int |
| 04:08.41 | Patlabor221 | so ether or |
| 04:08.47 | learnerEatnTacos | ok |
| 04:09.01 | Patlabor221 | it knows to strip the @ from your name |
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| 04:13.33 | bzgirl | learnerEatnTacos: couldnt connect? |
| 04:13.38 | learnerEatnTacos | nope |
| 04:13.55 | learnerEatnTacos | connection error just like yesterday |
| 04:14.00 | bzgirl | this is weird |
| 04:14.06 | learnerEatnTacos | though I had no trouble getting on 6000 |
| 04:14.08 | bzgirl | i dont know whats going on |
| 04:14.20 | bzgirl | and restarting the server dosent help |
| 04:14.36 | learnerEatnTacos | are you running new code? |
| 04:14.44 | bzgirl | g2 |
| 04:14.48 | learnerEatnTacos | er, a recompiled server from recently? |
| 04:15.01 | bzgirl | i compiled g2 sources |
| 04:15.10 | bryjen | g2 is g2 |
| 04:15.24 | learnerEatnTacos | is it the same server running on all ports? |
| 04:16.00 | bzgirl | yeah |
| 04:16.05 | bzgirl | except 6000 |
| 04:16.09 | bzgirl | thats the bunny one |
| 04:16.35 | learnerEatnTacos | ?? bunny on 6000, yet listed on g2 public server's list? |
| 04:16.53 | learnerEatnTacos | it was proton's decks |
| 04:17.31 | bryjen | yup |
| 04:17.57 | Patlabor221 | I can't see your bunny server |
| 04:18.12 | bzgirl | oh sorry |
| 04:18.27 | bzgirl | no bunny is on some other port |
| 04:18.43 | learnerEatnTacos | 8000 i think |
| 04:18.49 | bzgirl | so, 5155,59999,6000 all g2 |
| 04:19.01 | bzgirl | let me kill bunny |
| 04:19.08 | bzgirl | maybe bunny is causing it |
| 04:19.09 | scanline | hooray for antialiased pie |
| 04:19.14 | bryjen | kill the wabbit! |
| 04:19.15 | Patlabor221 | I don't see a 1.9 server from you |
| 04:19.24 | Patlabor221 | duck season!!! |
| 04:19.25 | learnerEatnTacos | she had one up just 20 min ago |
| 04:19.36 | bzgirl | oh yeah its not even running |
| 04:19.40 | bzgirl | so that cant be it |
| 04:20.14 | bryjen | elephant season! |
| 04:20.15 | learnerEatnTacos | you don't happen to build shared libraries do you? |
| 04:20.57 | JBDiGriz | Wow a lot has happened since I last checked! |
| 04:21.06 | learnerEatnTacos | i.e. libPlatform.so instead of libPlatform.a |
| 04:21.19 | bzgirl | learnerEatnTacos: ? |
| 04:21.34 | bzgirl | i dont know |
| 04:25.27 | bryjen | woof. 4 servers? what kind of line you connected with? |
| 04:27.06 | bzgirl | dsl |
| 04:28.11 | bryjen | heh. the T1 at work only lets me have about a dozen players |
| 04:29.36 | bryjen | although, depending on where they're connected to the net, they either get reeealy nice ping times, or crap. |
| 04:29.40 | bzgirl | bryjen: the most ever had was 4 in a match on the private server, 8 on the public and a couple plauing decks |
| 04:32.42 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: team flag help changed |
| 04:34.59 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: multithreaded vc libs are being used for some reason. |
| 04:37.16 | MrApathyCream | bzgirl in maryland? |
| 04:37.26 | learnerEatnTacos | niet |
| 04:37.33 | bzgirl | hi MAC, no Toronto |
| 04:37.37 | MrApathyCream | MD? |
| 04:38.02 | learnerEatnTacos | ?? |
| 04:38.02 | bzgirl | md? |
| 04:38.07 | bryjen | Canada |
| 04:38.16 | MrApathyCream | Bunny Hunt in MD |
| 04:38.18 | learnerEatnTacos | I'm in MD |
| 04:38.21 | learnerEatnTacos | that's my server |
| 04:38.22 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 04:38.25 | MrApathyCream | ok, sorry |
| 04:38.31 | MrApathyCream | where in maryland if i might ask? |
| 04:38.41 | learnerEatnTacos | northeast of baltimore |
| 04:38.57 | learnerEatnTacos | you? |
| 04:39.07 | MrApathyCream | eastern shore |
| 04:39.26 | MrApathyCream | cecil co |
| 04:39.27 | learnerEatnTacos | ah, near ococean? |
| 04:39.37 | MrApathyCream | warwick, actually |
| 04:39.39 | bryjen | heh. Chestal mustve gotten his server and all player message ids in. I get a big flashing SERVER-> message on login |
| 04:39.42 | MrApathyCream | near Middletown DE |
| 04:40.02 | learnerEatnTacos | mkay, cool -- you're probably closer than oc is to me then |
| 04:45.58 | Patlabor221 | what ya thing, teleporters in a bunny map or no teleporters? |
| 04:47.37 | bryjen | why not? |
| 04:47.51 | learnerEatnTacos | as long as it's a "trap".. :) |
| 04:47.57 | Patlabor221 | naw |
| 04:48.02 | Patlabor221 | just to get cross the map |
| 04:48.06 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/images/rabbitmap.jpg |
| 04:48.08 | Patlabor221 | simple map |
| 04:48.54 | Patlabor221 | figure I'll put 4 porters on the outer digonal bars that go to the other side. |
| 04:49.02 | Patlabor221 | so you can "hop" thru them |
| 04:49.18 | bryjen | sounds good |
| 04:49.38 | Patlabor221 | even learner should be able to jump in this map :) |
| 04:49.43 | bzgirl | :) |
| 04:50.10 | learnerEatnTacos | HEY! i heard that |
| 04:50.21 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: rats, multi-threaded needed for Audio, revert |
| 04:50.34 | bryjen | short object often result in jumping over when someone meant to jump up on |
| 04:51.01 | bryjen | not much "staircasing" there tho |
| 04:52.13 | bryjen | or elavated platforms to hop between. nice and simple |
| 04:52.17 | MrApathyCream | um |
| 04:52.19 | MrApathyCream | inline boolWorld::allowRabbit() const |
| 04:52.19 | MrApathyCream | { |
| 04:52.19 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.19 | MrApathyCream | } |
| 04:52.27 | MrApathyCream | is something wrong here? |
| 04:52.44 | bryjen | shift-8 instead of shift-7 |
| 04:52.45 | Patlabor221 | times? |
| 04:52.50 | learnerEatnTacos | sure, a space after bool? |
| 04:53.16 | Patlabor221 | yeah big opps |
| 04:53.31 | learnerEatnTacos | though not technically "wrong" besides screwing up the name |
| 04:55.02 | MrApathyCream | * vs & i mean |
| 04:55.28 | bryjen | easy mis-key |
| 04:55.31 | learnerEatnTacos | ah |
| 04:56.13 | JBDiGriz | which is twice as much as usual :{) |
| 04:56.19 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: use bit and not times to test bits |
| 04:56.22 | learnerEatnTacos | exactly |
| 04:59.42 | MrApathyCream | pass the salsa |
| 05:00.00 | bryjen | Mmmmmm salsa |
| 05:00.16 | JBDiGriz | Maryland salsa tastes like ketchup! |
| 05:00.29 | MrApathyCream | which tastes like chicken |
| 05:00.32 | learnerEatnTacos | there's such a thing as "maryland salsa"? |
| 05:00.48 | bryjen | too close to New-York-City! |
| 05:01.05 | learnerEatnTacos | the seasoning on the crabs is what I'd call "maryland salsa" :) |
| 05:01.14 | Patlabor221 | ok who can run a rabbit server with this map? |
| 05:01.20 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: Rabbits have genobility |
| 05:01.26 | Patlabor221 | ooh wait it needs a name |
| 05:01.38 | bryjen | genobility? |
| 05:01.48 | Patlabor221 | well lets play it then name it |
| 05:01.49 | MrApathyCream | able to use genocide |
| 05:01.56 | learnerEatnTacos | "Death to Thumper"? |
| 05:02.02 | bryjen | why wouldn't they? |
| 05:02.09 | MrApathyCream | cause the opponents are roqures |
| 05:02.46 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/rabbitmap.bzw |
| 05:03.00 | bryjen | roqures? don't take with you mouth full of salsa ;) |
| 05:03.15 | JBDiGriz | Do I have to rebuild my client from earlier this evening to participate tonight? |
| 05:03.26 | Patlabor221 | don't know |
| 05:03.56 | bryjen | JBDiGriz: there were some bugs with chatting this morning |
| 05:03.57 | JBDiGriz | Will I cause extreme anguish to anyone besides myself if I try? |
| 05:03.58 | MrApathyCream | JBDiGriz: prolly not |
| 05:04.13 | MrApathyCream | learner turn on jumping |
| 05:04.26 | Patlabor221 | yeah map is made for jumpie |
| 05:04.28 | JBDiGriz | Good enough, I don't mind annoying myself, but I'd rather not annoy everyone else |
| 05:04.41 | Patlabor221 | and rico |
| 05:04.42 | bryjen | I think Chestal got 'em fixed this afternoon. |
| 05:05.15 | bryjen | And some odd behavior select the rabbit. Donno if anyone worked on that. |
| 05:06.05 | MrApathyCream | up yet? |
| 05:06.25 | bryjen | yes |
| 05:08.17 | learnerEatnTacos | ehehe, oops .. wrong map |
| 05:08.26 | MrApathyCream | and -j -r +r |
| 05:08.30 | bryjen | -EAGAIN |
| 05:08.39 | Patlabor221 | an make jumpie |
| 05:08.53 | Patlabor221 | or I shall taunt you for a second time. |
| 05:09.07 | bryjen | Nee! |
| 05:09.15 | learnerEatnTacos | what flags? |
| 05:09.25 | JBDiGriz | Cow hurling! |
| 05:09.27 | Patlabor221 | that's up to you |
| 05:09.30 | bryjen | +f good |
| 05:09.36 | Patlabor221 | laser may be nasty |
| 05:09.43 | MrApathyCream | +f good{10} :) |
| 05:09.48 | learnerEatnTacos | it has a and v right now |
| 05:09.59 | bryjen | eh, only for the folks that don't have it ;) |
| 05:10.14 | bryjen | i dont think {} works with good |
| 05:10.38 | MrApathyCream | maybe |
| 05:10.48 | bryjen | or maybe no flags. sometimes thats fun |
| 05:11.15 | Patlabor221 | it's made for lots of runin |
| 05:11.37 | MrApathyCream | simple to fix |
| 05:12.04 | Patlabor221 | gahhhhshahh.... 2003 what a good vintige |
| 05:12.07 | stibnite | Patlabor221: isn't that the draino bottle? |
| 05:12.15 | Patlabor221 | no dif |
| 05:12.19 | JBDiGriz | That should get those reflexes moving :{) |
| 05:12.22 | stibnite | lol |
| 05:12.26 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah |
| 05:12.40 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure this map is just a drug induced haulcination |
| 05:12.50 | JBDiGriz | wrong drug |
| 05:12.56 | Patlabor221 | damn |
| 05:13.03 | Patlabor221 | I allways get the wrong one |
| 05:13.17 | bryjen | its on |
| 05:13.21 | Patlabor221 | well it could also be a burito induced hulicination |
| 05:13.44 | JBDiGriz | If a burrito induced it, I don't want to be near it! :# |
| 05:13.50 | MrApathyCream | heh |
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| 05:16.02 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: allow -f good{10} -> let the abuse begin |
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| 06:00.05 | heinola | hello |
| 06:00.07 | heinola | all |
| 06:00.09 | heinola | :) |
| 06:00.38 | learnerEatnTacos | that was pretty fun |
| 06:00.38 | heinola | any using slackware here ? |
| 06:00.49 | learnerEatnTacos | what's the question? |
| 06:01.21 | JBDiGriz | That was fun! |
| 06:01.23 | heinola | looking at trying it out |
| 06:01.47 | JBDiGriz | How did you like changing into the rabbit between 3 other people? |
| 06:01.50 | bryjen | Ha! the wiener and still champ-peon! |
| 06:02.06 | JBDiGriz | You made a great rabbit bry! |
| 06:02.14 | learnerEatnTacos | man I need to recompile.. I couldn't see chatter! |
| 06:02.19 | bryjen | Those sudden shifts to defense can be murder |
| 06:02.38 | learnerEatnTacos | bryjen holds a mean fort there in the middle |
| 06:02.42 | JBDiGriz | I wonder why learners messages were awol? |
| 06:03.02 | learnerEatnTacos | I'm running code from this morning |
| 06:03.10 | learnerEatnTacos | i think chestal fixed the problem now |
| 06:03.12 | bryjen | client from this morning had problems with player 0 and messages to all |
| 06:03.14 | learnerEatnTacos | recompiling now to test |
| 06:03.21 | learnerEatnTacos | and I was player 0 |
| 06:03.33 | JBDiGriz | I updated at 1800PDT |
| 06:03.45 | bryjen | its fixed. Ches added ids for "to everybody" and "from server" |
| 06:03.49 | learnerEatnTacos | could you guys see any of my messages? |
| 06:04.02 | JBDiGriz | Only that you sent a message |
| 06:04.05 | bryjen | i kept getting empty direct messages from you |
| 06:04.33 | JBDiGriz | The command bug was interesting as well |
| 06:04.49 | bryjen | possibly a side effect |
| 06:05.04 | learnerEatnTacos | hehe, I like the new hunting mode |
| 06:05.12 | Patlabor221 | what should I name the thing |
| 06:05.27 | JBDiGriz | "The Rabbit Died" |
| 06:05.58 | JBDiGriz | Old joke, sorry! |
| 06:06.04 | Patlabor221 | naw |
| 06:06.08 | Patlabor221 | RabbitRun |
| 06:06.14 | learnerEatnTacos | Carrot Field |
| 06:06.16 | Patlabor221 | RunRabbitRun |
| 06:06.26 | bryjen | CRabbitRun |
| 06:06.36 | Patlabor221 | CR? |
| 06:06.37 | bryjen | C++RabbitRun |
| 06:06.46 | bryjen | See |
| 06:06.50 | JBDiGriz | I kept wanting to howl as a new rabbit was created |
| 06:06.53 | Patlabor221 | m_oRabbitRun :) |
| 06:07.04 | bryjen | m_o ? |
| 06:07.13 | Patlabor221 | see :) |
| 06:07.21 | learnerEatnTacos | it was cool to see everyone's lagstats below 150.. |
| 06:07.32 | learnerEatnTacos | so I can server at least 4.. |
| 06:07.34 | scanline | so.. anyone in here know enough CSS2 to tell me why my "display: inline;" style isn't working? :) |
| 06:07.39 | JBDiGriz | It would have been interesting to see everyone's lagstats |
| 06:07.42 | bryjen | learnerEatnTacos: you could get lagstats? |
| 06:07.54 | learnerEatnTacos | yes |
| 06:08.01 | bryjen | odd |
| 06:08.12 | JBDiGriz | The command bug must be tied in to Chestal's changes |
| 06:08.23 | learnerEatnTacos | not really -- rmember i had the busted/old client |
| 06:08.33 | learnerEatnTacos | I couldn't get anything else |
| 06:08.48 | bryjen | same version server? |
| 06:09.10 | learnerEatnTacos | server and me were in sync, you all were all newer builds |
| 06:09.44 | bryjen | ah. bzfs.cxx and Address.h changed. busted server too then |
| 06:09.51 | JBDiGriz | Except that the parsing of the commands occurs entirely in the client, and shouldn't be echoed as a message. |
| 06:10.05 | bryjen | no / commands are on server |
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| 06:10.21 | MrApathyCream | probably an player id problem. |
| 06:10.24 | learnerEatnTacos | well, even without chat that was pretty darn fun |
| 06:10.30 | learnerEatnTacos | :) |
| 06:10.36 | bryjen | errr uh. No *comma* the / commands are in bzfs |
| 06:10.37 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 06:10.50 | MrApathyCream | so what changes would you want to see to rabbit? |
| 06:11.01 | MrApathyCream | (mode) |
| 06:11.07 | learnerEatnTacos | once multiple flags happen, I'll have my special little bunny :) |
| 06:11.14 | Patlabor221 | make the rabbit or me on radar a difrent color |
| 06:11.21 | Patlabor221 | right now the rabit is the same color as me |
| 06:11.24 | Patlabor221 | confusing |
| 06:11.25 | MrApathyCream | ah, true |
| 06:11.36 | bryjen | the teamkiller penalty as an option like it is in other styles |
| 06:11.51 | JBDiGriz | You're right, the / commands are parsed in bzfs.cxx. My memory is going. |
| 06:11.52 | MrApathyCream | yes, you should explode too if you kill a roque |
| 06:12.05 | MrApathyCream | (or not with -tk |
| 06:12.17 | MrApathyCream | currently do you lose a point if you kill a roque? |
| 06:12.23 | MrApathyCream | (in rabbit mode)? |
| 06:12.24 | bryjen | exactly. make -tk work |
| 06:12.33 | JBDiGriz | White is a bad color for the rabbit on radar, I had to turn the flags off to find the bunny. |
| 06:12.55 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: only request a new rabbit when you pause, when you are the rabbit. also, if paused reject the annointing |
| 06:12.58 | MrApathyCream | the bunny needs help i would think tho |
| 06:13.07 | learnerEatnTacos | maybe a pulsing white.. |
| 06:13.18 | bryjen | Suggestions for rabbit radar color ? |
| 06:13.18 | MrApathyCream | like the hunted |
| 06:13.22 | MrApathyCream | perhaps auto hunted on rabbit |
| 06:13.46 | learnerEatnTacos | it is a hunt, though.. having trouble getting him is supposed to be a good thing (just so long as it's not really hard) |
| 06:13.46 | JBDiGriz | It has to be obviously different than the flags. |
| 06:13.50 | MrApathyCream | perhaps in rabbit mode you personally should be yellow on radar? |
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| 06:14.01 | learnerEatnTacos | oh, auto hunted rabbit does sound good |
| 06:14.08 | bzgirl | is bunny talk still white? |
| 06:14.19 | bzgirl | its hard to see him talking |
| 06:14.29 | JBDiGriz | The bunny doesn't have time to talk on that map |
| 06:14.34 | bzgirl | :) |
| 06:14.41 | bryjen | bunny doesn't have much time to talk ;) |
| 06:14.43 | bzgirl | this bunny always talks |
| 06:14.50 | learner | hehe |
| 06:14.54 | JBDiGriz | You wouldn't last in that game! |
| 06:14.56 | Patlabor221 | some bunnys are gray |
| 06:15.13 | learner | some bunnies are pink |
| 06:15.22 | bryjen | or brown |
| 06:15.23 | JBDiGriz | some bunnies are chocolate |
| 06:15.33 | bryjen | mmmmm, chocolate |
| 06:15.40 | learner | There are bunnies living under my front porch.. :) |
| 06:16.27 | bryjen | we've got fat^Wlarge^Whealthy sized bunnies around our yard |
| 06:16.30 | JBDiGriz | You're no bunny til some bunny loves you. |
| 06:17.03 | bryjen | and they're brownish |
| 06:17.21 | learner | lol, jb |
| 06:17.57 | JBDiGriz | We have raccoons, possums, foxes and skunks in our yard. I haven't seen any bunnies recently! |
| 06:18.20 | learner | I'd rather have bunnies than those in my yard any day! |
| 06:18.28 | bryjen | sounds like its too crowded ;) |
| 06:18.53 | Patlabor221 | I put the map on BZBB |
| 06:18.53 | JBDiGriz | The dogs live in the back yard, so the vermin stay out front or in the neighbor's yards |
| 06:19.27 | bryjen | ~dict vermin |
| 06:19.38 | learner | I'm sure your neighbors appreciate that! heh |
| 06:19.42 | bryjen | eeewww |
| 06:19.49 | MrApathyCream | anyone still on rabbit? |
| 06:19.58 | MrApathyCream | I have rabbits auto-hunted code to test |
| 06:20.04 | JBDiGriz | The neighbors appreciate that the dogs drive away undesirables! |
| 06:20.29 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.01 | JBDiGriz | We have had rats wander into the backyard, but they don't make it back out! |
| 06:21.25 | bryjen | MrApathyCream: ducati rabbit is up |
| 06:21.29 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 06:24.19 | MrApathyCream | arg |
| 06:24.20 | MrApathyCream | rats |
| 06:25.32 | MrApathyCream | thaniks bryjen, having probs |
| 06:27.44 | learner | ok, latest server is now up and running |
| 06:27.56 | learner | it fixed my chat problems |
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| 06:30.54 | bryjen | hey MrApathyCream : the bunny change message doesn't show up in the chat area. I wonder if it -echo's |
| 06:31.19 | learner | bunny change in the chat window would be good |
| 06:32.06 | Patlabor221 | bunny change needs a sound |
| 06:32.15 | Patlabor221 | when you are the bunny |
| 06:34.10 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 06:34.15 | MrApathyCream | checking message code |
| 06:34.24 | MrApathyCream | yup->sound |
| 06:34.30 | MrApathyCream | Find a sound you like |
| 06:35.35 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: auto hunt the rabbit |
| 06:42.54 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: rabbit changes are now displayed in the console |
| 06:43.25 | scanline | some sort of a wet squeaky squish... |
| 06:43.59 | Patlabor221 | ewww |
| 06:44.11 | scanline | no no, a rabbit-type squeak |
| 06:44.17 | scanline | but wet because there's sure to be a lot of killing |
| 06:44.18 | Patlabor221 | ob |
| 06:44.23 | Patlabor221 | like a chewtoy |
| 06:44.26 | scanline | exactly |
| 06:44.32 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 06:44.35 | scanline | a rabbit-flavored squeakyduck |
| 06:46.40 | learner | nothing worth recompiling over |
| 06:49.59 | bryjen | re-make-ing |
| 06:50.55 | bryjen | the P3 at home make's a bit slower than the P4 at work :( |
| 06:55.23 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:55.34 | bryjen | much slower |
| 06:57.45 | bryjen | fini! |
| 06:58.50 | bryjen | official scoring is done in the server now, right? |
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| 07:02.13 | bryjen | off to bed for me. goodnight all |
| 07:03.43 | MrApathyCream | scoreing in server, yes |
| 07:03.52 | MrApathyCream | oops..gone. |
| 07:05.35 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: treat rogues like teammates so far as scoreing, tk-ing in rabbit mode |
| 07:06.18 | JBDiGriz | Time for me to head to sleep as well. Thanks and g'nite |
| 07:06.23 | MrApathyCream | cu |
| 07:19.00 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: only the rabbit player may ask to change rabbits |
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| 10:16.24 | niksie_ | Hello |
| 10:16.50 | niksie | hey MrCooper |
| 10:16.58 | niksie | didn't know you hung around this channel |
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| 11:13.18 | niksie | I have made a patch for bzflag |
| 11:13.34 | niksie | It makes team flags larger and thus easier to see |
| 11:13.52 | niksie | anyone here interested in taking a look at it? |
| 11:14.56 | niksie | its for the bzflag-1.7g2 tree |
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| 11:18.06 | [dmp] | hi david_v |
| 11:19.18 | david_v | hi :} |
| 11:20.26 | [dmp] | congrats on your victory :) |
| 11:20.54 | david_v | hmm... well, we lost after that :| |
| 11:21.02 | [dmp] | i just dont get it. 996 is fairly good. |
| 11:21.03 | [dmp] | so did we. |
| 11:21.10 | [dmp] | i played like a newbie |
| 11:21.11 | david_v | we didn't play against 996 |
| 11:21.31 | [dmp] | ah |
| 11:21.45 | david_v | Oman and Samurai |
| 11:22.40 | [dmp] | those atomi nuts is good. But asdf have always been better than me. I think i can match spiff (normally) .. but when i play like yesterday, there is no wonder why we lost |
| 11:22.51 | [dmp] | i was shot 5 times before getting a kill :) |
| 11:23.01 | [dmp] | ended up with -28 or something |
| 11:24.37 | david_v | whee |
| 11:24.55 | david_v | hey, your site is back, so what's the end of the story? |
| 11:25.08 | david_v | i'm #10 btw, well, not too bad :) |
| 11:25.18 | david_v | maybe i can start trusting the ladder ;) |
| 11:25.39 | [dmp] | new cooler, motherboard and cpu. Had to remove 512mb of ram because it was "burned" |
| 11:26.01 | david_v | urg :( |
| 11:26.15 | [dmp] | this makes my server is really slow when i ssh to it. |
| 11:26.37 | david_v | uh, just 640k of mem or what? :) |
| 11:26.43 | [dmp] | ..and i cant afford more memory for now. |
| 11:26.45 | [dmp] | no, 128mb |
| 11:26.50 | david_v | hehe ;) |
| 11:26.53 | david_v | k ... urg |
| 11:27.00 | [dmp] | had two modules. with my luck it largest died.. :-| |
| 11:27.09 | [dmp] | s/it/the/ |
| 11:27.11 | david_v | yah... |
| 11:29.00 | [dmp] | david_v: http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/viewtopic.php?t=760&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 |
| 11:38.01 | david_v | [dmp]: k |
| 11:39.45 | david_v | [dmp]: not really related, but i'm running an AMD 350 setup with 128 MB RAM, and connecting that with NAT to this computer... via... parallel port... :) |
| 11:40.11 | david_v | the problem i have right now though is that i can't get the 2.4.x kernels to work with that older computer, for whatever reason |
| 11:40.43 | niksie | whats the error? |
| 11:40.55 | david_v | it just reboots without saying anything |
| 11:41.12 | david_v | i've tracked it down, i think, and it seems like compilers gcc-2.95+ won't work |
| 11:41.25 | david_v | gcc272 works with 2.2.x (and below i suppose), but 2.4.x won't compile with that |
| 11:41.32 | david_v | says the compiler is too old |
| 11:42.12 | david_v | i've tried 2.4.20 and 2.4.21. same problem |
| 11:43.29 | niksie | weird |
| 11:43.47 | david_v | yeah. i found some interesting thing in the makefile for 2.2.25 though... let me quote |
| 11:44.00 | david_v | # foo-bar-gcc for cross builds |
| 11:44.00 | david_v | # gcc272 for Debian's old compiler for kernels |
| 11:44.00 | david_v | # kgcc for Conectiva, Mandrake and Red Hat 7 |
| 11:44.00 | david_v | # otherwise 'cc' |
| 11:44.06 | david_v | "gcc272 for Debian" |
| 11:44.14 | david_v | and i'm using Debian... hm, what gives? |
| 11:44.41 | niksie | potato? |
| 11:44.59 | david_v | i'd say tomato, although i'm not quite sure what you mean... :) |
| 11:45.02 | niksie | potato can't compile 2.4 kernels |
| 11:45.10 | david_v | woody |
| 11:45.12 | niksie | david_v:the version of debian |
| 11:45.22 | niksie | hmm |
| 11:45.30 | david_v | is potato older or newer? |
| 11:46.08 | niksie | older |
| 11:46.31 | david_v | hmm |
| 11:46.44 | niksie | maybe ask in #debian.. |
| 11:47.02 | david_v | i did before, nobody answered. i have more specific info now of course |
| 11:47.11 | david_v | niksie: remember, i never put the question directly here :) |
| 11:47.21 | niksie | heh |
| 11:47.30 | niksie | maybe upgrade to a newer compiler? |
| 11:47.56 | david_v | that's not it |
| 11:48.00 | david_v | i have gcc-3.3 |
| 11:48.08 | david_v | but if i compile with it, it breaks |
| 11:48.16 | david_v | i.e. it reboots when i try to boot |
| 11:48.20 | david_v | same with gcc-2.95 |
| 11:48.24 | david_v | and gcc272 is "too old" |
| 11:48.34 | david_v | but gcc272 works with 2.2.x |
| 11:49.07 | niksie | I'd use gcc-3.3 of gcc-2.95 |
| 11:49.15 | david_v | well, neither works |
| 11:49.16 | niksie | have you tried kernelnewbies? |
| 11:49.37 | david_v | no, i'll do that now |
| 11:50.26 | david_v | no response in #debian yet... |
| 11:50.35 | david_v | need to check some mailing list or forum |
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| 12:16.37 | Chestal | david: I compiled 2.4.21 with gcc 3.3 |
| 12:20.15 | david_v | Chestal: on Debian? :) |
| 12:20.26 | david_v | i think i just found the problem though... maybe |
| 12:21.10 | david_v | i use gcc -I/usr/src/linux/include/ instead of gcc, seems like it's trying to use outdated headers from libc6-dev otherwise |
| 12:21.39 | david_v | http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.en.html , just the first paragraphs there |
| 12:24.17 | Chestal | david: yes, nut using the debian kernel sources, though, but the normal ones |
| 12:24.31 | david_v | i'm using plain sources too |
| 12:24.40 | Chestal | is the kernel you want to compile not in /usr/src/linux? |
| 12:24.45 | david_v | but Debian as a distro is supposedly screwing things up anyway |
| 12:24.49 | david_v | it is |
| 12:24.54 | david_v | but look at the link above |
| 12:25.08 | Chestal | hmm, whatever, it worked for me |
| 12:25.18 | david_v | which version of Debian? |
| 12:26.07 | Chestal | unstable |
| 12:26.35 | david_v | no i mean the distro name |
| 12:26.39 | david_v | Woody? |
| 12:26.59 | Chestal | that would be sid |
| 12:27.07 | david_v | hmm |
| 12:28.17 | david_v | oh well i'll reboot whenever this is complete. hopefully it works |
| 12:30.46 | david_v | brb |
| 12:48.35 | david_v | back, and rebooting the other comp |
| 12:49.11 | david_v | urg didn't work |
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| 13:06.04 | david_v | i'll mess it with later, cya |
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| 13:07.30 | ak|ra | hi |
| 13:11.43 | Chestal | hi akira |
| 13:11.49 | ak|ra | hi chest |
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| 13:37.24 | Chestal | anyone up for another rabbit test? |
| 13:37.35 | Chestal | looks like MAC made some changes overnight |
| 13:38.43 | larsl_56k | Can't right now. |
| 13:38.50 | larsl_56k | What did he change? |
| 13:40.16 | Chestal | fixed a bug, changed pausing thing, introduced auto-hunting etc. |
| 13:41.21 | larsl_56k | Auto-hunting? |
| 13:44.58 | Chestal | there is this feature where you can select a player to hunt |
| 13:45.19 | Chestal | from what I read in the commit messages, he made it so that the rabbit is automatically selected for this now |
| 13:49.30 | Chestal | ok |
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| 13:54.10 | SGI | hi |
| 13:55.59 | [dmp] | hi SGI |
| 13:55.59 | Chestal | hi SGI |
| 13:56.53 | SGI | [dmp] are you going to change your name |
| 13:57.18 | [dmp] | SGI: Well, havnt picked another handle, so i kinda doubt it |
| 13:57.29 | ak|ra | hi SGI |
| 13:58.07 | SGI | hi master |
| 13:58.28 | Chestal | why change your name? |
| 13:59.11 | [dmp] | Would like a name than you can "say". |
| 13:59.12 | SGI | answer, answer |
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| 13:59.34 | [dmp] | ~spell pronounce |
| 13:59.38 | | 'pronounce' may be spelled correctly |
| 13:59.40 | SGI | dump |
| 13:59.48 | Chestal | hmm, you are "di em pi" to me |
| 13:59.56 | Chestal | or in german "de em pe" |
| 13:59.57 | SGI | nfor you |
| 14:00.06 | SGI | nchestal |
| 14:00.18 | Chestal | dmp: your name is good, don't change it :-) |
| 14:00.20 | SGI | im typing like in bz |
| 14:00.34 | SGI | n first |
| 14:00.44 | Chestal | dmp: ok, fixed something, try again? |
| 14:00.48 | [dmp] | sure |
| 14:01.23 | SGI | chestal are you working in "the white rabbit" |
| 14:03.51 | SGI | Im painting the doors of the house |
| 14:04.03 | SGI | im going to give another coat |
| 14:04.16 | SGI | ntalk you later ...10' |
| 14:04.30 | SGI | dam "n" |
| 14:04.45 | SGI | im going to ripoof the "n" key |
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| 14:18.52 | *** part/#bzflag SGI (~sgi-tank@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 14:20.21 | *** join/#bzflag SGI (~sgi-tank@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 14:20.34 | SGI | im back |
| 14:20.56 | SGI | another 15' and another coat to the door |
| 14:34.54 | Chestal | why is that? |
| 14:36.38 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@81.68.136.24) |
| 14:43.28 | ak|ra | because me sticks his 2 fingers in learner's eyes |
| 14:45.00 | sussudio | ok that was bogus. |
| 14:45.10 | sussudio | i just killed lars on ducati 1.9 and it said i shot myself?! |
| 14:45.58 | Chestal | suss: are you using the msot recent version? |
| 14:46.09 | sussudio | i'm using one from yesterday |
| 14:46.15 | Chestal | also, don't kill rogues, when you are a rogue and rabbit mode is active |
| 14:46.16 | sussudio | both bullets went through lars |
| 14:46.21 | Chestal | it's counted as a teamkill |
| 14:46.25 | sussudio | huh? |
| 14:46.28 | Chestal | protocol changed overnight |
| 14:46.31 | sussudio | *$(#)@ |
| 14:46.55 | ak|ra | whats rabbit mode? |
| 14:47.12 | *** join/#bzflag niksie (~nkist@3eea1525.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 14:47.29 | CIA | commit by chestal: in rabbit mode, rogue<->rabbit kills are no teamkills (extra check necessary because server doesn't change team of rabbit for now) |
| 14:47.34 | Chestal | akira: everyone hunts the rabbit |
| 14:53.31 | CIA | commit by chestal: change flashing for hunted player on radar |
| 14:55.03 | ak|ra | Chestal: ugly flag :) |
| 14:56.12 | [dmp] | its a gamemode like ctf/ffa. |
| 14:57.11 | Chestal | one more quick test please |
| 14:57.17 | [dmp] | sure |
| 14:57.17 | niksie | need me? |
| 14:57.42 | niksie | can't cvs update |
| 14:57.46 | niksie | anomcvs is borked |
| 14:59.26 | *** join/#bzflag swinemiester (~swinemies@h24-80-130-30.no.shawcable.net) |
| 14:59.43 | sussudio | what's a miester? |
| 14:59.53 | niksie | I think its a master |
| 14:59.58 | niksie | I know its jerman |
| 15:00.01 | niksie | err german |
| 15:00.01 | sussudio | no, that's meister |
| 15:00.07 | niksie | oh |
| 15:00.23 | swinemiester | so I dont know how to spell 8-] |
| 15:00.28 | sussudio | piiiiiig |
| 15:01.23 | sussudio | kinderpindakaas! |
| 15:01.32 | boxman | wat? |
| 15:01.39 | sussudio | peeetuur |
| 15:01.58 | swinemiester | okay, heres a question for you bzgods. How do I stop the new version of bz from displaying my ip beside my callsign? |
| 15:02.12 | sussudio | boxman: http://xxr.xs4all.nl/jiskefet/scene/peter.htm |
| 15:02.30 | larsl_56k | swinemiester: If you mean the autogenerated email, use -anonymous. |
| 15:02.35 | sussudio | pigmaster: clear your email from your bzflag.bzc |
| 15:02.41 | larsl_56k | Or define your own email in the config file. |
| 15:03.04 | swinemiester | nexcellent! thanks! |
| 15:03.41 | swinemiester | see what I mean about the spelling? more coffee is required |
| 15:03.46 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-217-133-164-153.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 15:03.48 | sussudio | or pepsi x |
| 15:04.03 | sussudio | "contains equivalent to 2-4 cups of coffee" |
| 15:04.07 | CIA | commit by chestal: beep when oneself becomes rabbit; use the hunting select sound for now until someone comes up with something better |
| 15:04.10 | sussudio | I AM CORNHOLIO |
| 15:04.40 | boxman | do rabits make noises? |
| 15:04.55 | sussudio | yes |
| 15:05.06 | sussudio | except for the sniffing.... |
| 15:05.15 | sussudio | they make noises when they're anxious or in pain |
| 15:05.20 | sussudio | they go squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 15:05.24 | boxman | ok |
| 15:05.33 | boxman | perhaps we should use that noise? |
| 15:05.38 | boxman | or is it really unpleasant? |
| 15:05.44 | sussudio | rather |
| 15:05.51 | boxman | how about a cats meow? |
| 15:06.03 | sussudio | :-B |
| 15:06.30 | CIA | commit by chestal: hopefully fix bug which caused server to get confused about rabbit sometimes when the current rabbit left the game |
| 15:06.30 | boxman | I got a cat somewhere around here that might be interested in cooperating in exchange for some bacon |
| 15:06.50 | boxman | Chestal: you are updating faster then I can cvs update and compile |
| 15:06.56 | swinemiester | i have a cat the size of a tank |
| 15:07.10 | Chestal | boxman: then either you or your computer is too slow :-) |
| 15:07.19 | [dmp] | or cvs :-) |
| 15:07.22 | boxman | boxman: don't insult my computer! |
| 15:07.48 | [dmp] | or perhaps you talk too much with yourself :-) |
| 15:07.53 | sussudio | boxman: yo puter so fat it needs its own zipcode |
| 15:09.11 | sussudio | Haak? |
| 15:09.17 | *** part/#bzflag ak|ra (~mathias@pD9E472BA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:09.19 | Nico_ | wah? |
| 15:09.30 | sussudio | oh foxy foxtrot met je elastieke benen |
| 15:09.54 | *** part/#bzflag Nico_ (~nkist@3eea1525.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
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| 15:25.28 | david_v | [dmp]: are you there? i have some work for you ;) |
| 15:27.33 | Chestal | david_v: he's learning for exams |
| 15:28.19 | sussudio | the danish bacon eating exams? |
| 15:28.32 | david_v | lol |
| 15:28.38 | david_v | k Chestal :) |
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| 15:40.55 | [dmp] | david_v: im here |
| 15:41.44 | david_v | [dmp]: k, it's just a feature request, an outbox on the league site. like an inbox but the other way :) |
| 15:41.57 | david_v | sometimes you're not quite sure if the messages got sent or not |
| 15:43.17 | [dmp] | that shoudlnt be too hard. |
| 15:43.25 | david_v | nope |
| 15:43.43 | david_v | btw, cookies wouldn't hurt... ;) |
| 15:44.03 | david_v | if you have some free time to kill, just ask... :) otherwise i'll keep quiet |
| 15:44.04 | [dmp] | they are used if php think it can (php_sessions) |
| 15:44.23 | david_v | i mean persistent cookies |
| 15:44.26 | [dmp] | when i surf the site, it uses cookies. |
| 15:44.44 | david_v | oh oops seems like i... ahem... |
| 15:44.49 | david_v | you guessed it :) let me check |
| 15:45.22 | david_v | hehe :) better now |
| 15:45.44 | david_v | doh i have a huge blocklist for cookies |
| 15:46.30 | [dmp] | :) |
| 15:46.46 | [dmp] | cant bypass your blocklist david :-) |
| 15:47.37 | david_v | hehe |
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| 15:48.01 | david_v | hey bzgirl |
| 15:48.09 | bzgirl | hello |
| 15:48.45 | [dmp] | hi bzg |
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| 15:51.42 | Chestal | hi |
| 15:52.06 | Chestal | allofmp3.com looks liek it could be actually useful, first music paysite I encountered where the prices are attractive |
| 15:52.26 | sussudio | mp3... prices... |
| 15:52.30 | doughecka | next to apples music store :) |
| 15:52.35 | doughecka | cept you need a mac |
| 15:52.51 | Chestal | haven't looked too deep into apple's offer, but I think it was much more expensive |
| 15:52.55 | boxman | macs are fun |
| 15:53.00 | boxman | 1USD per song |
| 15:53.05 | Chestal | they bill you $0.01/MB and you can select your format (even ogg) and bitrate |
| 15:53.05 | boxman | 10 per album |
| 15:53.14 | bzgirl | Chestal: its in Russian? |
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| 15:53.17 | doughecka | Chestal: ooh |
| 15:53.24 | Chestal | bzgirl: more or less, yes |
| 15:53.46 | sussudio | i already pay extra for every cdr i buy and so do all of you. i dont own the recordcompanies anything. |
| 15:54.43 | sussudio | i dont even use cdr's to put music on :-P |
| 15:55.07 | doughecka | I have a rio player for listening to music, faster than burning a mp3 cd-rw :) |
| 15:55.51 | boxman | I'm attempting to compile bzedit... its getting stuck on gtkglarea, exactly what file is it looking for? |
| 15:56.16 | doughecka | boxman: tip: runs wine and bzedit for windows :) |
| 15:56.23 | doughecka | runs/run/s |
| 15:56.32 | sussudio | boxman: about 60MB of libs. |
| 15:56.45 | doughecka | ah |
| 15:57.02 | sussudio | so? |
| 15:57.25 | boxman | doughecka: what did you do? |
| 15:57.26 | david_v_away | hmm |
| 15:58.01 | doughecka | I am fixing a imac (original) that someone had deleted the apps folder |
| 15:58.05 | doughecka | in OS X |
| 15:58.15 | doughecka | without any way to get back to OS 9 |
| 15:58.27 | boxman | boot with alt pressed |
| 15:58.31 | boxman | if it is on a different partition |
| 15:58.39 | doughecka | nope, all one partition |
| 15:58.53 | boxman | else log in as >console and use the bless command |
| 15:58.55 | doughecka | I booted off a cd from a G4, and ran its startup disk control panel |
| 15:59.37 | sussudio | piss off doug |
| 15:59.39 | sussudio | or get banned again |
| 16:00.34 | doughecka | there we go :) |
| 16:01.36 | doughecka | how well does OS X compile linux apps anyway? |
| 16:01.47 | doughecka | do you have to edit the code? |
| 16:01.49 | boxman | usually pretty good |
| 16:02.02 | boxman | bzflag ran right out of the box |
| 16:02.10 | boxman | but I think someone had already done some porting efforts |
| 16:02.20 | doughecka | JBDiGriz and learner :) |
| 16:02.40 | boxman | JBDiGriz: I owe you eternal gratitude for porting bzflag |
| 16:02.52 | boxman | JBDiGriz: now get on with bzedit :) |
| 16:03.11 | JBDiGriz | Reid Ellis and others did the original port, we just kept G2 up to date |
| 16:03.28 | doughecka | JBDiGriz: your much too modest ;) |
| 16:03.36 | JBDiGriz | learner is looking into bzedit, I'm more interested in the network code. |
| 16:03.55 | Chestal | a friend of mine also started a port, but never finished it. And then the other port came around sohe stopped working on it |
| 16:04.03 | JBDiGriz | doughecka: Speak softly, and charge an exhorbitant rate. |
| 16:04.20 | doughecka | :) |
| 16:05.12 | boxman | JBDiGriz: is he looking at porting it over to Aqua or just over to X11/gtk on macosx? |
| 16:05.37 | doughecka | osx 10.3 should have x11 by default :) |
| 16:06.31 | JBDiGriz | boxman: I'm not sure, he was on a bit ago, and he'll probably be back later |
| 16:06.52 | doughecka | ~seen learner |
| 16:06.53 | | learner <sean@chr160dhcp1675.chrchv01.md.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 9h 20m 13s ago, saying: 'nothing worth recompiling over'. |
| 16:07.26 | doughecka | JBDiGriz: how about looking into robot code? :P |
| 16:08.07 | boxman | 9 hours.. |
| 16:08.10 | boxman | I will talk to him later |
| 16:08.10 | JBDiGriz | I'll probably just break it completely with the network reorganization, so you can pick up the pieces and write a decent bot. :{) |
| 16:08.21 | doughecka | huh :) |
| 16:08.34 | doughecka | Chestal made a nice bot |
| 16:08.37 | boxman | bots would be nice for testing modifications with |
| 16:08.40 | doughecka | dodges shots well |
| 16:08.50 | boxman | does it do CTF? |
| 16:08.53 | JBDiGriz | boxman: I saw learner's client quit about 20 minutes ago. |
| 16:08.55 | doughecka | nope |
| 16:09.05 | boxman | ~seen learner_ |
| 16:09.05 | | boxman: i haven't seen 'learner_' |
| 16:09.13 | doughecka | ~seen learnerwork |
| 16:09.13 | | i haven't seen 'learnerwork', doughecka |
| 16:09.25 | boxman | ~seen learner* |
| 16:09.25 | | i haven't seen 'learner*', boxman |
| 16:09.31 | [dmp] | ~seen learneratwork |
| 16:09.31 | | learneratwork <sean@chr160dhcp1675.chrchv01.md.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 18h 39m 8s ago, saying: 'cay'. |
| 16:09.37 | boxman | heh |
| 16:10.00 | doughecka | ~seen learnerEatnTacos |
| 16:10.00 | | learnereatntacos <sean@chr160dhcp1675.chrchv01.md.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 9h 55m 59s ago, saying: 'oh, auto hunted rabbit does sound good'. |
| 16:10.07 | JBDiGriz | Who's gonna teach the bot regular expressions? |
| 16:10.13 | doughecka | ibot |
| 16:10.14 | doughecka | :P |
| 16:15.31 | *** join/#bzflag huh (~huh@cs6668144-147.austin.rr.com) |
| 16:15.46 | bzgirl | hi huh |
| 16:15.46 | huh | hey bzgirl |
| 16:16.08 | huh | the window version won't let go of the mouse |
| 16:16.10 | boxman | are there any CTF servers for CVS? |
| 16:16.26 | bzgirl | huh: what do you mean? |
| 16:16.48 | huh | the game won't release focus |
| 16:16.52 | bzgirl | huh: the mouse is trapped in the window? |
| 16:17.03 | huh | yes, the mouse is trapped in the window |
| 16:17.41 | huh | I think I want to go back to version g0... I'm trying g2 |
| 16:18.23 | bzgirl | huh: well yeah, but do you want to run bz in a window and do other stuff on your desktop at the same time? |
| 16:18.39 | bzgirl | huh: i dont know if thats possible |
| 16:18.44 | huh | yes, thats what I want to do... |
| 16:19.02 | bzgirl | huh: alt + tab maybe |
| 16:19.09 | huh | well, then the game is not written correctly ;^) |
| 16:19.35 | huh | alt + tab will get me to another window... but the mouse/cursor is trapped |
| 16:19.56 | huh | the game should release focus |
| 16:20.21 | bzgirl | huh: what distro/window manager? |
| 16:20.26 | huh | I do it in other apps |
| 16:20.44 | huh | I'm using the RH8 gnome... |
| 16:21.33 | huh | I'm a graphics guy... EDA actually, but I use QT to do high performance 2D graphics |
| 16:22.19 | bzgirl | huh: it might be gnome, i use fluxbox and can alt + tab out of the window to my desk np |
| 16:22.31 | bzgirl | huh: Gnome is written incorrectly :) |
| 16:23.10 | huh | ummmm I can alt-tab and then type, but the window cursor doesn't come along.... |
| 16:23.40 | huh | Redhat basturdized gnome BTW, so its probably them |
| 16:24.45 | trepan | i'd like to be able to alt-tab from full-screen too |
| 16:25.35 | huh | I'm wondering if using QT with the openGL extension would be better... |
| 16:26.01 | trepan | nah, minimize the library dependencies |
| 16:26.44 | bzgirl | In Windows can you alt + tab out of bz to the desk top if you run bz in a small window? |
| 16:27.06 | huh | dunno, I'll go try it |
| 16:27.14 | trepan | yup |
| 16:27.27 | trepan | seems to work |
| 16:27.55 | huh | trepan: are you familiar with QT and the support they have for rendering and openGL? |
| 16:28.43 | trepan | admittedlt, no, but I have a personal aversion to adding in more library dependencies. I do have a real plan for the Xwindows version |
| 16:29.12 | huh | bzgirl: can you suggest any solutions for my ATI drivers? I hate having to go to windoze. |
| 16:29.28 | trepan | I want to do an XGrabKeyboard, but let unused keys pass-thru, and have a key setup for minimizations |
| 16:29.53 | bzgirl | huh: i use nvidia card, some one here might have your same ATI card though |
| 16:30.27 | huh | DeadMeat has a radeon 9000 and has no problems |
| 16:30.42 | bzgirl | is yours Radeon 9000 also? |
| 16:30.47 | huh | I have a native radeon 7500 |
| 16:31.07 | bzgirl | what does native mean? |
| 16:31.18 | huh | native meaning built by ATI and using the 7500 chip |
| 16:31.25 | bzgirl | ahh |
| 16:32.13 | huh | if I ever had any free time, I'd take bzflag and shove it into a QT wrapper app |
| 16:32.48 | huh | If the rendering performance doesn't suffer, that would be a more easily enhancible arch |
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| 16:34.52 | *** join/#bzflag Nidhoggr (mandrake@tiphareth.net) |
| 16:35.26 | huh | I'll have to tweak on the settings for this ATI radeon 7500 to see why I can't get faster FPS |
| 16:35.57 | huh | meanwhile, I'm flipping over to windoze and I'll play for a while... |
| 16:38.20 | Nidhoggr | well, I replaced my vid card, and my PC isn't locking up anymore... so that was the problem. |
| 16:38.42 | Nidhoggr | now I need to buy another vid card. :) |
| 16:39.13 | Nidhoggr | since the one I replaced it with was an older one that I had lying around. |
| 16:39.35 | boxman | is there an easy way to play bzflag inside a window? |
| 16:39.40 | doughecka | on ur mac? |
| 16:39.45 | doughecka | -window? |
| 16:39.46 | boxman | yeah |
| 16:39.47 | Nidhoggr | nope.. on my linux box |
| 16:40.02 | Nidhoggr | doug, I'll put other map up later. |
| 16:40.14 | doughecka | hm, other map? |
| 16:40.22 | Nidhoggr | the updated one. |
| 16:40.23 | doughecka | ah |
| 16:40.30 | doughecka | cool |
| 16:40.34 | boxman | doesn't work |
| 16:40.39 | doughecka | huh |
| 16:40.43 | Nidhoggr | they replaced UPS in datacenter yesterday, and it killed power. :( |
| 16:40.50 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (~carnageHo@adsl-68-73-117-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 16:40.51 | doughecka | hah |
| 16:40.57 | doughecka | I got to replace the batterys in a ups |
| 16:41.03 | Nidhoggr | that's never fun |
| 16:41.06 | doughecka | we thought it was only for the switch |
| 16:41.09 | doughecka | so I killed it |
| 16:41.15 | doughecka | the domain server was on it also |
| 16:41.20 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:41.27 | *** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@3E6B486F.aalb.stofanet.dk) |
| 16:41.41 | doughecka | ah well, at least it was 6:30, not 8:00 |
| 16:41.56 | Nidhoggr | I've had problems with this specific 9700 pro for a while, and it finally locks the machine on every boot. |
| 16:42.05 | Nidhoggr | it was locking intermittently in windows and linux. |
| 16:42.11 | Nidhoggr | now it's consistant. |
| 16:42.19 | doughecka | cool |
| 16:42.20 | doughecka | er |
| 16:42.23 | doughecka | :P |
| 16:42.26 | Nidhoggr | well, cool that I found it. :) |
| 16:42.35 | Nidhoggr | not cool that I have to spend money on it. |
| 16:42.50 | doughecka | ick |
| 16:42.51 | huh | thats what you get when you buy the latest/greatest new hardware |
| 16:43.03 | Nidhoggr | huh, it was a defective unit. |
| 16:43.10 | huh | oh |
| 16:43.10 | Nidhoggr | but I thought it was just drivers. |
| 16:43.16 | Nidhoggr | so I just kept it around. |
| 16:43.21 | Nidhoggr | have had it since october. |
| 16:43.45 | Nidhoggr | so, I'll get a new one... maybe a different model/brand... depends on pricing. |
| 16:44.10 | huh | makes me mad my radeon 7500 doesn't work better in linux |
| 16:44.28 | Nidhoggr | you using fglrx mod? |
| 16:44.40 | Nidhoggr | from ati |
| 16:44.49 | huh | don't know? what/where do I get it |
| 16:44.55 | Nidhoggr | do an lsmod as root |
| 16:45.08 | Nidhoggr | you can get it from ati's site under linux drivers. |
| 16:45.22 | *** join/#bzflag Legolas (~legolas@adsl-68-73-117-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 16:45.36 | Nidhoggr | it should be loading agpgart and fglrx |
| 16:45.40 | Nidhoggr | hi legolas |
| 16:46.21 | huh | I have agpgart but no fglrx |
| 16:46.37 | Nidhoggr | what frame rates are you getting? |
| 16:47.00 | huh | only 29 - 30 |
| 16:47.07 | Nidhoggr | ah.. yeah.. get the ATI drivers. |
| 16:47.26 | huh | so, go to ATI site, get the linux drivers.... |
| 16:48.47 | Nidhoggr | my roommate has windows xp and radeon 7500, and he gets about 50-60 fps |
| 16:49.09 | huh | I get great frame rates under windows XP |
| 16:49.18 | Nidhoggr | because the drivers are native. :) |
| 16:49.42 | Nidhoggr | seriously... the ATI drivers for linux SHOULD help. |
| 16:49.54 | huh | my teammate has a radeon 9000 and gets 100 fps |
| 16:50.04 | boxman | I have a patch I want to submit... should I find someone in here or should I add it to the sourceforge que? |
| 16:50.20 | huh | I'm looking at the ATI site now |
| 16:50.25 | Nidhoggr | I was getting about 200fps with my radeon 9700 under linux. |
| 16:50.34 | huh | whoa |
| 16:51.54 | doughecka | of course the monitor only gets.. 75 hz? |
| 16:52.07 | sussudio | it all depends on the map. i can get more than 200 with my ati radeon 7200 AIW under linux, just don't expect that fps with any blind ambition map :-P |
| 16:52.11 | doughecka | anything abaove 80 hz is unless unless ur monitor can do it |
| 16:52.35 | boxman | that assumes both are perfectly synced |
| 16:52.40 | sussudio | oh dear, doug's talking out of the wrong hole again |
| 16:52.52 | huh | I'll take 85 which is what my monitor supports |
| 16:53.08 | doughecka | yea |
| 16:53.25 | doughecka | but 200? :) |
| 16:53.54 | doughecka | quake III at 400 fps? I mean, whats the use? run something in the background, a server or something :) |
| 16:54.00 | huh | so far, I'm not seeing linux drivers for download at the ATI site |
| 16:54.23 | doughecka | http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://www.ati.com/support/drivers/linux/radeon-linux.html&e=747 |
| 16:54.23 | sussudio | just ignore doug, everyone else does. |
| 16:54.38 | sussudio | next je |
| 16:55.04 | doughecka | is sussudio talking? |
| 16:55.19 | huh | thanks for the url |
| 16:55.29 | doughecka | also http://www.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html |
| 16:55.35 | doughecka | has some info about xfree |
| 16:55.40 | sussudio | Chestal: doug is spreading misinformation and talking off-topic again. he needs another banning. |
| 16:55.42 | Nidhoggr | huh... go to front page of ati... click on find a driver under built by ati and select linux, then select the 7500 |
| 16:55.44 | huh | I saw that already |
| 16:56.39 | huh | thanks |
| 16:56.56 | sussudio | boxman: als je ook maar iets gelooft wat die idioot zegt, dan word je zelf ook zo dom |
| 16:58.05 | huh | Chestal: doug is being a big help |
| 16:58.10 | boxman | boxman: welke idioot? Doughecka |
| 16:58.19 | sussudio | boxman: ja |
| 16:58.32 | huh | das verbotin |
| 16:59.00 | boxman | wrong language :) |
| 16:59.07 | doughecka | heh |
| 16:59.10 | huh | hah |
| 16:59.11 | sussudio | boxman: huh is al verloren, maar daar viel al niet veel te winnen. |
| 16:59.23 | huh | alright enough already |
| 16:59.26 | doughecka | boxman: hah, translate? |
| 16:59.28 | boxman | sussudio: heh |
| 17:00.50 | huh | OK, what is that language ... por favor |
| 17:01.03 | doughecka | dutch or swedish |
| 17:01.09 | boxman | Dutch |
| 17:01.33 | huh | ahhh, I'll have to get my dutch friend to translate and tell me if I'm offended |
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| 17:04.46 | Nidhoggr | here's what freetranslation.com has to say... Huh is already lost, but there fell to not to win already much. |
| 17:05.03 | huh | hahaha |
| 17:05.13 | sussudio | Nidhoggr: does that thing do the translation for kung-fu movies too? |
| 17:05.22 | Nidhoggr | probably. :) |
| 17:05.33 | Nidhoggr | I really enjoy some of the translation sites. |
| 17:05.41 | Nidhoggr | definitely funny. |
| 17:05.47 | sussudio | jimmy james has fancy plans! and pants to match! |
| 17:06.18 | huh | Yeah, is that translation even close? I'll take the lost, but I'm not losing. |
| 17:06.37 | doughecka | if you also but something praised what that idiot says, than become you self also so stupidly as you also but |
| 17:06.37 | doughecka | something praised what that idiot says, than become you self also so cathedral |
| 17:06.46 | sussudio | huh: you're already lost, not that there was much to gain. |
| 17:07.04 | boxman | <--- Niksie |
| 17:07.27 | huh | You're using a microprocessor that I helped design... can't help it that I don't have time to write the OS as well |
| 17:08.00 | huh | probably |
| 17:08.23 | doughecka | Nu everybody net negeer sussudio, het zou zijn heel helpfull |
| 17:08.42 | sussudio | zielig hoor |
| 17:08.50 | stibnite | what is a ptbolt? |
| 17:09.10 | doughecka | pitifully hear |
| 17:09.20 | Nidhoggr | is that a bolt that goes on a boat? |
| 17:09.23 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 17:10.15 | huh | Voor het gesprek bedankt Guy, ondanks u, u behulpzaam was |
| 17:10.41 | huh | :p |
| 17:11.09 | doughecka | impressive |
| 17:11.13 | sussudio | huh: you can not hurt me with your grammar terror |
| 17:11.27 | huh | lol |
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| 17:11.47 | doughecka | heya strayer |
| 17:12.30 | doughecka | Jeg er en meget hyggelig person |
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| 17:12.38 | sussudio | idiot.. that's not strayer |
| 17:12.41 | Nidhoggr | my photo processing isn't going to be ready til 1:30 :( |
| 17:12.55 | doughecka | I thought you had a digital camera? |
| 17:13.15 | Nidhoggr | I submit some of my stuff for actual photo prints for my portfolio |
| 17:13.22 | doughecka | cool |
| 17:13.30 | Nidhoggr | using the frontier process by fuji |
| 17:13.35 | Nidhoggr | it's pretty awesome. |
| 17:13.41 | doughecka | ah |
| 17:13.50 | Nidhoggr | so no inkjet inks. |
| 17:14.29 | Nidhoggr | they are working on a thing where I can submit the pics online, and pay for them online, and pick them up at my nearest kit's camera. |
| 17:14.43 | doughecka | sweet |
| 17:14.45 | Nidhoggr | that'll be really helpful. |
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| 17:20.24 | [dmp] | "Jeg er en meget hyggelig person" ? :-) |
| 17:20.30 | david_v_away | yea right ;) |
| 17:20.37 | doughecka | hehehe |
| 17:21.01 | doughecka | I forgot the </sussudio> |
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| 17:28.12 | doughecka | heya larsl_56k |
| 17:28.20 | larsl_56k | Hello. |
| 17:32.24 | larsl_56k | ~bzflist |
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| 18:18.37 | sussudio | C:\temp\bzflag\src\bzflag\RadarRenderer.cxx(383) : warning C4305: '=' : truncation from 'const double' to 'float' |
| 18:18.37 | sussudio | C:\temp\bzflag\src\bzflag\RadarRenderer.cxx(384) : warning C4305: '=' : truncation from 'const double' to 'float' |
| 18:18.44 | sussudio | that just came in on the last sfsnap |
| 18:22.34 | sussudio | ok, legolas is the rabbit and is PAUSING. this brings the game to a halt, either make it impossible to pause for the rabbit or hand it over to someone else |
| 18:25.38 | Chestal | silly VC++ |
| 18:26.01 | doughecka | heh |
| 18:26.29 | CIA | commit by chestal: satisfy VC++ |
| 18:30.34 | bzgirl | does the team message work? in bunny |
| 18:30.51 | bzgirl | i messaged my team 3 times, no one answered |
| 18:34.31 | Tupone | rouge team? |
| 18:34.54 | bzgirl | yes |
| 18:35.03 | Chestal | should work |
| 18:35.05 | Chestal | try again? |
| 18:35.10 | bzgirl | ok |
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| 19:10.46 | Chestal | dmp: heh, that looks dangerous :-) |
| 19:10.51 | Chestal | dmp: only an image so far? |
| 19:11.52 | sussudio | Chestal: can you do something about the rabbit pausing? |
| 19:13.23 | Chestal | there already is code in there, but obviously it does not work |
| 19:13.30 | sussudio | :-P |
| 19:17.55 | Chestal | the steamrolling sound is borked |
| 19:18.12 | sussudio | tell me about it. |
| 19:18.23 | Chestal | it has a different format than the other sounds |
| 19:18.49 | Chestal | it's 8 bit instead of 16bit |
| 19:18.55 | sussudio | snort. |
| 19:19.02 | sussudio | it has TCHHHKIIIISSCCHH sound |
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| 19:22.18 | Patlabor221 | it also was added as text at one point, learner was suposed to fix that |
| 19:22.37 | Chestal | actually, more sounds are borked |
| 19:22.46 | Chestal | all the 11kHz soudns areplayed at twice the speed by bflag |
| 19:22.49 | Patlabor221 | yeah MAC screwed some too |
| 19:23.15 | Patlabor221 | the wav reader is realy picky |
| 19:23.26 | Chestal | try to play missile.wav outside of bzflag, sounds whole a lot diffeernt |
| 19:24.01 | Chestal | same for killteam, lock, phantom, land |
| 19:24.17 | Chestal | I could convert them all |
| 19:24.28 | Chestal | wonder if peopel have already adjusted to the fast sounds |
| 19:24.31 | Chestal | some have been in there for ages |
| 19:24.48 | Patlabor221 | fix em proper |
| 19:25.15 | Chestal | the question is, should they sound as they do now in bzflag or as their file format dictates? |
| 19:25.32 | Patlabor221 | I say as the file dictates |
| 19:25.41 | Patlabor221 | for missile I like the file one |
| 19:25.53 | Patlabor221 | I thought the in game one was allways hookey |
| 19:26.11 | Patlabor221 | if they don't like it, have them submit new ones to replace them that they do like |
| 19:26.32 | Chestal | they'll double in size then |
| 19:26.57 | Patlabor221 | and add what 16k? |
| 19:27.03 | Chestal | the teamkill sound will get even more annyoing this way :-) |
| 19:27.11 | david_v | hehe |
| 19:27.19 | Chestal | well, teamkill for example goes from 50k to 100k |
| 19:27.32 | Patlabor221 | not horible |
| 19:28.03 | Chestal | 1.8 had vorbis... |
| 19:28.11 | Patlabor221 | it did |
| 19:30.43 | Chestal | ok, transformed them, will commit 'em |
| 19:31.00 | Chestal | the only difference now is that some are mono and some stereo |
| 19:31.26 | Patlabor221 | sterio is pointless for locational sounds |
| 19:31.27 | doughecka | sweet |
| 19:33.03 | CIA | commit by chestal: convert all wavs to a format that bzflag can read properly; several sounds have been playing at twice their real speed, so it will sound different now |
| 19:34.30 | Chestal | 1.9 - with all new sound now ;-) |
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| 20:01.00 | Nidhoggr | anyone see a bug where shots don't kill people... the shots stop right before the target tank |
| 20:01.08 | Nidhoggr | we had to restart the server to fix it. |
| 20:01.30 | Nidhoggr | you can get closer and closer to the tank and the shots all stop just short. |
| 20:02.11 | bzgirl | http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/viewtopic.php?t=802&highlight= |
| 20:02.31 | bzgirl | theres some client mod that does that apperantly |
| 20:02.40 | Patlabor221 | yeah I wana know who he's talkin about |
| 20:03.09 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 20:03.17 | Nidhoggr | it was happening to a bunch of people simo |
| 20:03.30 | Patlabor221 | should be easy for a client to send shotend messages |
| 20:04.25 | Nidhoggr | can they stop shots aimed at others, too? |
| 20:04.40 | Patlabor221 | a shot is a shot |
| 20:04.44 | Nidhoggr | true. |
| 20:04.45 | Patlabor221 | just need it's ID |
| 20:04.59 | Nidhoggr | hrm. how do you tell who's sending the end shots then? |
| 20:05.19 | Patlabor221 | I don't think we match the shots owner to who sends the message |
| 20:05.36 | Patlabor221 | the person hit, says "I got hit, end the shot" |
| 20:05.36 | sussudio | it was that idiot with callsign "BZFlag Developer", wasn't it? |
| 20:05.53 | Patlabor221 | but the hit and and the death are difrent messages |
| 20:06.02 | Patlabor221 | so you can end the shot but not die |
| 20:06.13 | bzgirl | sussudio: what server did you see him on? |
| 20:06.19 | Nidhoggr | hrm |
| 20:06.22 | sussudio | bzgirl: hashmark i think |
| 20:06.51 | Patlabor221 | we had that cheat happy guy in here yesterday too. |
| 20:07.00 | sussudio | carnage? |
| 20:07.06 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 20:07.17 | Patlabor221 | started with a nN |
| 20:07.27 | Patlabor221 | carnage can't program to save his life. |
| 20:07.31 | bzgirl | Nitske |
| 20:07.37 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:10.56 | Patlabor221 | I guess the simplest thing would be to combine shot end with the reason for it's ending, ie. death, time out, or shield |
| 20:11.08 | Patlabor221 | and verify that the user has shield, or the shot did time out. |
| 20:11.15 | Patlabor221 | of not ignore the message |
| 20:13.00 | Patlabor221 | or even better let the server handle shot time outs |
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| 20:40.31 | doughecka | wow, ram prices are so low |
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| 20:46.09 | scanline | They were having a rebate sale at Best Buy a couple weeks ago and I got 512MB of PC2700 for $40 |
| 20:46.38 | david_v | nice |
| 20:46.40 | doughecka | wow |
| 20:46.50 | scanline | actually, both my brother and I got 512MB =) |
| 20:46.55 | doughecka | 1 gig of 2100 is 122 bucks |
| 20:47.53 | doughecka | hah, only 256 megs in it before? :) |
| 20:48.22 | scanline | funny that it has more memory than my desktop machine now, and a lot more than my server :) |
| 20:48.23 | doughecka | of course 512 megs of rdram is 95 bucks :) |
| 20:48.38 | Patlabor221 | it is faster |
| 20:48.43 | doughecka | yea |
| 20:50.50 | david_v | ~d |
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| 21:13.47 | larsl_56k | How have the sound files changed? |
| 21:14.05 | Chestal | yep |
| 21:14.08 | Chestal | ah |
| 21:14.16 | Chestal | I conferted them to use a format that bzflag can read correctly |
| 21:14.21 | Chestal | mainly bitrae |
| 21:14.24 | larsl_56k | Ah. |
| 21:14.34 | Chestal | except for the steamroller which was also converted from 8bit to 16bit |
| 21:14.44 | Chestal | 6 files were affected |
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| 21:15.14 | Chestal | even thogh their bitrate was set to 11025Hz, bzflag would play them at 22050Hz |
| 21:17.41 | larsl_56k | Really? |
| 21:17.48 | larsl_56k | So it's been to high all the time? |
| 21:18.15 | larsl_56k | s/to/too/ |
| 21:18.57 | doughecka | yep |
| 21:26.45 | bzgirl | ~bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:59999 |
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| 21:50.10 | [dmp] | girlfriend: "Ooops! Did i unplug anything?" :-) |
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| 21:52.43 | tvon | Can't say I'm liking the limits on hashmark. |
| 21:52.45 | tvon | :-P |
| 21:54.07 | david_v | [dmp]: lol |
| 21:54.12 | david_v | twice? ;) |
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| 21:54.53 | [dmp] | after-effects :) |
| 21:56.15 | david_v | hehe |
| 21:59.11 | Nidhoggr | ~secretplace |
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| 22:15.16 | larsl_56k | ~xmission |
| 22:15.32 | larsl_56k | Doogie Chow keeps rejoining when someone is at his base. |
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| 23:22.28 | larsl_56k | Ugh, sleep. |
| 23:22.46 | doughecka | ugh? poor guy |
| 23:22.55 | sussudio | ~sud |
| 23:22.56 | | shut up doug |
| 23:23.06 | Patlabor221 | no rest for the wicked |
| 23:24.23 | scanline | mornin Patlabor221 |
| 23:24.35 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 23:24.40 | scanline | coffee! |
| 23:24.51 | doughecka | morning? where you at? |
| 23:25.02 | Patlabor221 | morning is a state of mind |
| 23:25.07 | scanline | =) |
| 23:26.47 | sussudio | Patlabor221: appearently the "access.bus" rj11 connector at the back of my new monitor was a failed attempt at an universal serial bus. Because microsoft didnt want to put support for it in win95 and went for USB, it basically failed outside of the DEC Alpha world |
| 23:27.42 | doughecka | ah, so he must out of it :P |
| 23:27.43 | Patlabor221 | ahhh, I've seen some printers and stuff with those kind of serial ports |
| 23:28.14 | sussudio | myeah, you could daisychain keyboards, mice and stuff to it, sort of like a mac i guess |
| 23:28.32 | Patlabor221 | makes some sense |
| 23:28.39 | sussudio | the 100kbps transfer rate is probably a bit low compared to usb |
| 23:28.43 | Patlabor221 | I've seen mac monitors with adb hubs in them |
| 23:29.30 | sussudio | the system supports multiple masters, so i could use the periphs on more than 1 computer.... can you even do that with usb? |
| 23:29.44 | Patlabor221 | I don't think you can |
| 23:29.50 | Patlabor221 | that is kinda cool |
| 23:29.56 | scanline | you can with firewire |
| 23:30.07 | sussudio | i think you can share a scsi bus over more than 1 computer |
| 23:30.11 | Patlabor221 | they make those? |
| 23:30.39 | sussudio | can you daisychain firewire? |
| 23:30.44 | doughecka | yea, you can have 2 servers sharing a scsi drive, and when one goes down, the other takes over |
| 23:30.58 | scanline | sussudio: yes |
| 23:31.51 | sussudio | probably theonion or something |
| 23:32.12 | doughecka | is sussudio talking? |
| 23:32.28 | Patlabor221 | is doug talking? |
| 23:32.43 | sussudio | Patlabor221: i think it's a random bollocks script |
| 23:32.56 | doughecka | scanline: firewire mouse... :) |
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| 23:41.06 | Patlabor221 | well then that was fun |
| 23:41.46 | doughecka | power outage? |
| 23:42.01 | Patlabor221 | foot -> computer |
| 23:42.06 | Patlabor221 | = zap |
| 23:42.11 | doughecka | whoops |
| 23:42.43 | [dmp] | Patlabor221: did you get my pm at all, then? :-) |
| 23:42.52 | Patlabor221 | uggg I hate it when ccdb returns the japanese text |
| 23:42.58 | Patlabor221 | nope |
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| 23:58.10 | CIA | commit by atupone: Using VERSION (string) instead of BZVERSION (number) on text - so hacking configure.in we could have bzflag-1.9a0-cvs260803 |
