| 00:01.18 | captain_proton | bzfs.cxx:89: no matching function for call to `transform( |
| 00:01.18 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.18 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.18 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.18 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.18 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.21 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.37 | patlabor221 | see I asked if it was inculded |
| 00:01.49 | captain_proton | its included |
| 00:01.52 | captain_proton | i just don't know why its not working |
| 00:02.02 | patlabor221 | ohh then just call it a bastard and kick it |
| 00:11.16 | fiberchunks | ~sud |
| 00:11.20 | | shut up doug |
| 00:14.04 | Nidhoggr | yay. got new customer for my colo business. |
| 00:19.34 | captain_proton | Nidhoggr: you have a colo business? |
| 00:31.02 | fiberchunks | captain_proton: how do i issue SIGUSR1 to an app? |
| 00:31.43 | captain_proton | kill -USR1 pid =) |
| 00:32.40 | fiberchunks | duh - thx :) |
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| 00:44.04 | captain_proton | down to about 550 lines to merge in |
| 00:44.19 | michaelh2 | which patch is this? |
| 00:44.23 | fiberchunks | nice --release cometh from the fist! |
| 00:44.34 | captain_proton | pat's massive patch-o-rama |
| 00:44.45 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 00:44.46 | michaelh2 | that include the model stuff? |
| 00:44.57 | captain_proton | michaelh2: no |
| 00:45.02 | captain_proton | this is just his admin patch |
| 00:45.07 | captain_proton | all 1500 lines of it :P |
| 00:45.13 | captain_proton | and none of it in bz's coding style |
| 00:45.14 | fiberchunks | wow |
| 00:45.15 | michaelh2 | woah |
| 00:45.17 | fiberchunks | wow |
| 00:45.19 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 00:45.20 | captain_proton | but we love him anyways |
| 00:45.23 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 00:45.47 | fiberchunks | bz coding follow the gnu style? |
| 00:45.58 | michaelh2 | I will be doing a more "less-hardcoded" admin by arrow keys system -- but it will take some time |
| 00:46.17 | michaelh2 | I never knew what pat was doing :) |
| 00:47.01 | michaelh2 | can admin like commands be given to *any* user basically? |
| 00:47.13 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: it follows the semi-random style rules in DEVINFO |
| 00:47.17 | captain_proton | michaelh2: yep |
| 00:47.19 | fiberchunks | ah |
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| 00:47.34 | captain_proton | if the server admin really wanted they could add kick perms to the default group =) |
| 00:47.40 | fiberchunks | sshhhhh, don't talk about him anymore, he's back |
| 00:47.41 | michaelh2 | coool |
| 00:47.49 | michaelh2 | not |
| 00:48.17 | patlabor221 | anarchy server |
| 00:48.25 | michaelh2 | there seems to be bit of a lack of communication in our development...... |
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| 00:48.38 | patlabor221 | comuni what's it? |
| 00:48.50 | patlabor221 | welcome to bzflag there michel :) |
| 00:48.55 | michaelh2 | heh |
| 00:49.18 | michaelh2 | everyone just runs off into their corner and you see the dust flying then they come running back and say.... hey look what I did! |
| 00:49.33 | michaelh2 | and then someone else across the room says "ohhhhh crap!" |
| 00:49.36 | patlabor221 | yeah it's the feature stick to the wall thing |
| 00:49.53 | patlabor221 | horible way to do development |
| 00:49.58 | patlabor221 | but common in open source it seems |
| 00:50.11 | michaelh2 | not that I am complaining... |
| 00:50.31 | michaelh2 | perhaps if people would write up what they are working on and what they are pondering.... |
| 00:50.43 | captain_proton | like actually set some goals for what to do |
| 00:50.48 | captain_proton | "clean up net code" |
| 00:50.51 | captain_proton | etc |
| 00:51.01 | captain_proton | you, do that, and OBEY THE FIST |
| 00:51.02 | patlabor221 | i've been asking for tim to make one for over a year now |
| 00:51.20 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 00:51.30 | michaelh2 | You objectOrientize the netcode? |
| 00:52.08 | michaelh2 | perhaps at least objectOrientize select & those bit thingeees |
| 00:52.17 | michaelh2 | into something prettier? |
| 00:52.53 | patlabor221 | noone has done that yet |
| 00:53.06 | patlabor221 | I think major features need to be planed and assigned |
| 00:53.26 | michaelh2 | and perhaps tested too huh ? :) |
| 00:53.54 | michaelh2 | how about a real "test" release? |
| 00:54.02 | patlabor221 | that's part of the plan |
| 00:54.13 | patlabor221 | spec, design, implment, test |
| 00:54.15 | captain_proton | someone made a patch for it |
| 00:54.19 | captain_proton | haven't looked at it tho |
| 00:54.21 | fiberchunks | spec? |
| 00:54.27 | fiberchunks | what's that :p |
| 00:54.27 | captain_proton | won't go in until after g2 at least |
| 00:54.33 | patlabor221 | no shit |
| 00:55.01 | michaelh2 | no one likes to mention the D word :) |
| 00:55.25 | michaelh2 | document :) |
| 00:55.46 | michaelh2 | should we draw up fancy UML diagrams? |
| 00:55.56 | captain_proton | eep |
| 00:55.58 | michaelh2 | little stick men... etc |
| 00:56.18 | michaelh2 | Would that be interesting if someone did that? |
| 00:56.48 | michaelh2 | the sf.net documents section is a bit sparse :) |
| 00:57.11 | scanline | whee, imagemagick does MNGs |
| 00:57.14 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org/svn/misc/trunk/blender/tests/spinner.html |
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| 00:57.54 | michaelh2 | gotta love that blender UI..... |
| 00:57.59 | michaelh2 | not |
| 00:58.13 | scanline | eh.. what's wrong with the blender ui? |
| 00:58.21 | patlabor221 | yeah you should cap, I have never been show how realy, I know sorta but for some reason none of the 5 c++ classes I have been in went over them |
| 00:58.26 | scanline | it's unconventional and takes some getting used to, but after that it's awesome |
| 00:58.29 | michaelh2 | just drives me nuts that's all :) |
| 00:58.51 | patlabor221 | it's slugish and need tooltips :) |
| 00:59.07 | michaelh2 | needs the office assistant :) |
| 00:59.15 | patlabor221 | umm no |
| 00:59.21 | fiberchunks | damned paperclip |
| 00:59.27 | patlabor221 | the cat is cool |
| 00:59.50 | fiberchunks | http://www.salmondays.tv/downloads/paper_clip.mpg |
| 00:59.54 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 01:00.55 | michaelh2 | so captain -- is there any great rush for me to get an improved admin-by-keys thing finished quickly or is it going to wait for the next release anyway? |
| 01:01.49 | scanline | ooh, that's better |
| 01:01.52 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org/svn/misc/trunk/blender/tests/spinner.html |
| 01:02.00 | scanline | got the MNG delay set right |
| 01:02.19 | patlabor221 | I think the quesion to him is, are you going to put in the login stuff |
| 01:02.24 | patlabor221 | or leave it a patch? |
| 01:02.36 | patlabor221 | cus if it's not in cvs then your current stuff is fine |
| 01:03.07 | michaelh2 | I would need to seriously change things to make it work decently with your model of things |
| 01:03.17 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:03.21 | michaelh2 | -- being able to assign someone arbitrary lists of commands |
| 01:03.42 | patlabor221 | I would do the chezzy way and just look for the "identify" message |
| 01:03.54 | patlabor221 | also how does your stuff work with non english text? |
| 01:04.02 | michaelh2 | uh.. not at all? |
| 01:04.40 | michaelh2 | I suppose I can handle that better in a more abstracted version |
| 01:04.56 | patlabor221 | yeah cus I think you won't get an english "you are an admin message" |
| 01:05.19 | michaelh2 | it's just funny that it works as well as it does |
| 01:05.49 | michaelh2 | You ever see a non-english admin message? |
| 01:05.53 | michaelh2 | Is that in the works? |
| 01:06.10 | patlabor221 | there is the bundle stuff thats in there now |
| 01:06.14 | patlabor221 | that does the translation |
| 01:06.18 | patlabor221 | been there since g0 |
| 01:06.27 | michaelh2 | but server side? |
| 01:07.04 | michaelh2 | someone would have to do all the translating too :) |
| 01:07.20 | michaelh2 | arg |
| 01:07.24 | michaelh2 | \ will |
| 01:08.33 | michaelh2 | so I also have to separate words from any misc. symbols that are on the prompt... |
| 01:08.48 | captain_proton | 400 lines to go |
| 01:09.05 | michaelh2 | it's such a pain to reformat stuff..... |
| 01:09.35 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 01:10.03 | michaelh2 | worse if someone commits a bunch of changes and you are stuck with your old version |
| 01:10.27 | captain_proton | ooooo |
| 01:10.29 | captain_proton | patlabor221: naughty |
| 01:10.35 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 01:10.40 | captain_proton | DEBUG1("Identify %s %s",player[t].regName.c_str()); |
| 01:10.56 | patlabor221 | ohh thats bad |
| 01:11.02 | scanline | go patlabor221! print that stack! |
| 01:11.02 | michaelh2 | SHAME SHAME! |
| 01:11.03 | patlabor221 | see why code reviews are good :) |
| 01:11.14 | patlabor221 | works on windows :) |
| 01:11.19 | captain_proton | haha |
| 01:11.22 | michaelh2 | isn't vc++ cool |
| 01:11.23 | captain_proton | i'm sure it does |
| 01:11.48 | michaelh2 | well at least we can explore the code nicely even if it is a funky compiler |
| 01:12.08 | patlabor221 | they can too, they just have difrent tools |
| 01:12.10 | michaelh2 | compiler is a bit half baked |
| 01:12.12 | patlabor221 | ours is together |
| 01:12.23 | patlabor221 | you can replace the compiler |
| 01:12.28 | patlabor221 | it's just cl.exe |
| 01:12.35 | michaelh2 | hmmm |
| 01:12.42 | michaelh2 | that would be un-windows like :) |
| 01:13.18 | patlabor221 | no, there are a number of 3rd party compilers that work with visual studio |
| 01:13.25 | patlabor221 | it's a valid plugin method |
| 01:13.48 | patlabor221 | visual studio is actulay rather exensible, just not in the normal "scripting" way |
| 01:13.49 | michaelh2 | I just think it beats xeamcs and command line g++ for exploring -- I imagine other IDE's also can feret out class info |
| 01:14.04 | patlabor221 | I had the thing compileing stuff in our own language making macintosh resources. |
| 01:14.28 | michaelh2 | gotta love these people with their own languages |
| 01:14.41 | fiberchunks | michaelh2: i'm no wizard, but anjuta seems to be a pretty nice ide |
| 01:14.42 | scanline | pfft |
| 01:14.58 | scanline | languages are fun to write |
| 01:15.02 | patlabor221 | well it's for a very special part of our softare, and it's was made way before there were neat languages like python |
| 01:15.03 | fiberchunks | requires gnome though |
| 01:15.27 | patlabor221 | and it has a very limited command set, since it's not used by real programers |
| 01:15.36 | patlabor221 | it's used by machinests who think they are programers. |
| 01:15.55 | michaelh2 | I've seen several companies using their own languages |
| 01:16.07 | patlabor221 | our main app code is C++ |
| 01:16.08 | captain_proton | mmm |
| 01:16.10 | captain_proton | tasty food |
| 01:16.23 | fiberchunks | chinese -- i think i'll have chinese tonight |
| 01:16.29 | patlabor221 | but the little plugins that take our output and make it into text that a CNC machine can read, are in our own little language |
| 01:16.32 | patlabor221 | "Compost" |
| 01:16.56 | patlabor221 | heh, before I worked on it, they could only have 100 numberic variables, and 50 boolean flags. |
| 01:17.03 | patlabor221 | and they were named 1-100 |
| 01:17.08 | michaelh2 | ick |
| 01:17.12 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:17.18 | michaelh2 | like $1 and $2 ? |
| 01:17.33 | patlabor221 | like save# Num# ('1') |
| 01:17.43 | patlabor221 | it also uses prefix math |
| 01:17.47 | michaelh2 | now there's descriptiveness |
| 01:18.05 | captain_proton | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2326591330&category=1607 |
| 01:18.12 | scanline | they didn't even bother to do a real parser? |
| 01:18.25 | patlabor221 | so to increment a counter it was save# num#('10') add# recall# num#('10') num#('1') |
| 01:18.38 | patlabor221 | it was made initaly in pascall in 85 |
| 01:18.42 | michaelh2 | So they just used the number to use as an offset? |
| 01:18.47 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:18.52 | fiberchunks | captain_proton: oooooo, wanna split it? :) |
| 01:18.54 | scanline | gee... if you want to make it that painful you might as well just use something standardized and painful like Forth |
| 01:18.57 | captain_proton | After purchasing, pay instantly with your credit card through PayPal! |
| 01:19.06 | patlabor221 | I made it down to incvar ('mycounter') |
| 01:19.09 | patlabor221 | much easyer |
| 01:19.12 | captain_proton | who in the world has a 440,000 USD limit on their credit card?!?! |
| 01:19.58 | fiberchunks | b gates |
| 01:20.02 | michaelh2 | paypal perhap |
| 01:20.03 | michaelh2 | s |
| 01:20.33 | fiberchunks | sheik yerbouti! :) |
| 01:20.42 | patlabor221 | here is some of our wonderfull code |
| 01:20.42 | patlabor221 | FORMAT(DIV#,15) |
| 01:20.43 | patlabor221 | '( Prog Cycle Time = ' DIV# ProgramRunTime# Num#('60') ' Min. )' EOL |
| 01:20.43 | patlabor221 | FORMAT(DIV#,9) |
| 01:20.43 | patlabor221 | ' ' EOL |
| 01:20.57 | michaelh2 | lol EOL ?? |
| 01:21.05 | patlabor221 | End of line |
| 01:21.12 | patlabor221 | it's all about outputing to a text file |
| 01:21.19 | michaelh2 | ah |
| 01:21.26 | patlabor221 | so that outputs an EOL charset to the file |
| 01:21.45 | michaelh2 | Almost thought it marked the end of line for the code |
| 01:21.55 | patlabor221 | well for the output code yes |
| 01:22.08 | patlabor221 | this makes a text file that runs a computer controlled milling machine |
| 01:22.29 | patlabor221 | so it makes a yet another program for even wierder hardware. |
| 01:23.01 | patlabor221 | it outputs stuff like this |
| 01:23.02 | patlabor221 | N1G17G40G80 |
| 01:23.02 | patlabor221 | T1 |
| 01:23.02 | patlabor221 | M6 |
| 01:23.02 | patlabor221 | ( OPERATION 1: SURFACING PATTERN ) |
| 01:23.02 | patlabor221 | ( 3D ) |
| 01:23.04 | patlabor221 | ( TOOL 1: .125 BALL ENDMILL ) |
| 01:23.06 | patlabor221 | ( 1/8 BALL END MILL ) |
| 01:23.08 | patlabor221 | G54 |
| 01:23.10 | patlabor221 | S10000M3 |
| 01:23.12 | patlabor221 | G90G0X-3.537Y5.1223 |
| 01:23.14 | patlabor221 | G43Z-.4H1 |
| 01:23.16 | patlabor221 | M8 |
| 01:23.18 | patlabor221 | Z-.6 |
| 01:23.24 | patlabor221 | fiber should know that stuff :) |
| 01:23.32 | fiberchunks | mmm hmm CAM :) |
| 01:23.42 | patlabor221 | it's my 8-5 |
| 01:23.45 | michaelh2 | well geez I sure want to work there..... :) |
| 01:23.46 | fiberchunks | can't remember G codes though |
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| 01:23.55 | patlabor221 | I can't forget them |
| 01:24.00 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:24.02 | patlabor221 | but then no 2 machiens are the same |
| 01:24.09 | patlabor221 | so you never know them all |
| 01:24.29 | fiberchunks | this is why machinists get to charge so much for CNC opps :) |
| 01:24.37 | patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:24.57 | patlabor221 | tho we make the post once, and it realy takes care of damn near all of it |
| 01:25.13 | fiberchunks | whereas manual dudes can just charge per labor (but can't produce pretty things, like billet aluminum cut wheels for motorcycles) |
| 01:25.14 | patlabor221 | the only reason many edit the code, is cus they want to be in controll |
| 01:25.21 | fiberchunks | yah |
| 01:25.27 | patlabor221 | or turbine blades |
| 01:25.30 | fiberchunks | right |
| 01:25.42 | bzgirl | hey guys, if i run a serve from a script...#!/bin/bash...bzfs -r +j...and so on, how can i combine 3 such scripts into one? ./script &? |
| 01:26.08 | bzgirl | (sry to butt in :)) |
| 01:26.12 | fiberchunks | alrighty -- gotta pick up my girl -- later on |
| 01:26.53 | michaelh2 | usually in a text file aren't they? |
| 01:27.11 | michaelh2 | or do you mean call one from another? |
| 01:27.29 | bzgirl | yes, theyre 3 text files, i wish to run them all from one script |
| 01:27.47 | michaelh2 | create a 4th script? :) |
| 01:28.14 | bzgirl | yes, im trying that :) but it only runs the first script |
| 01:28.27 | bzgirl | even if i use & |
| 01:28.38 | michaelh2 | unfortunately I am not a lin/unix head... |
| 01:28.52 | bzgirl | apperently neither am I :) |
| 01:29.16 | michaelh2 | must be something like a "call" that a dos batch file uses |
| 01:29.58 | michaelh2 | a dos batch file does a similar thing if you just run another batch file instead of doing "call myfile.bat" |
| 01:30.00 | scanline | the "&" at the end of the command should background it |
| 01:30.12 | scanline | ugh, batch files... |
| 01:30.33 | michaelh2 | I wrote an entire program using batch files... goto is coooooooll |
| 01:30.48 | captain_proton | scanline: i don't know if that can even be called a batch file |
| 01:30.54 | Noodleman | i used to to corny stuff like that back in the day :-) |
| 01:30.55 | scanline | :) |
| 01:30.57 | captain_proton | i think "steaming pile of cruft" is more applicable |
| 01:31.09 | scanline | well yeah.. but it was technically inside a batch file |
| 01:31.39 | Noodleman | bzgirl: i'd write a perl script to do it... |
| 01:31.48 | scanline | michaelh2: batch files have no sane way to output the current time, redirect multiple commands to one pipe or file, delay for some amount of time, or read data from devices |
| 01:31.59 | scanline | not to mention hundreds of other things... |
| 01:32.14 | patlabor221 | wow high res textures realy do show off the crapyness of the teleporter model now |
| 01:32.15 | Noodleman | bash ain't too pretty either :-) |
| 01:32.23 | bzgirl | Noodlebot: I struggle with bash, perl will have to ait its turn |
| 01:32.29 | scanline | eh, compared to this bash was a work of art |
| 01:32.31 | bzgirl | wait* |
| 01:33.03 | captain_proton | 350 lines :P |
| 01:33.16 | patlabor221 | look at this |
| 01:33.17 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/crap.png |
| 01:33.40 | captain_proton | scanline: it would terrify anyone here ;) |
| 01:33.53 | captain_proton | whoa patlabor221 |
| 01:33.56 | captain_proton | it looks like crap |
| 01:34.07 | patlabor221 | TP looks like crap dosn't it |
| 01:34.22 | scanline | that wall texture is pretty bad too |
| 01:34.29 | Noodleman | once, i wrote a bash script to scan an email for viruses and spam, and check the sending ip against the blacklists |
| 01:34.31 | patlabor221 | yeah I haven't fixed that |
| 01:34.34 | Noodleman | it wasn't pretty |
| 01:34.35 | captain_proton | wall texture is almost worse |
| 01:34.50 | captain_proton | ground looks good ;) |
| 01:34.54 | scanline | maybe use multitexturing to give it detail close up and far away? |
| 01:34.58 | patlabor221 | the wall texture has no maping issues tho, I just threw that one in there, it's too small |
| 01:34.58 | scanline | ground hasn't loaded yet here... |
| 01:35.16 | patlabor221 | the pyrmaid came out ok, let me get a shot of that |
| 01:35.52 | scanline | yeah, the ground's not too bad.. though I don't think anyone would miss that stipple |
| 01:36.00 | scanline | mimimap looks cool |
| 01:36.26 | patlabor221 | I had to change the code for that tho, changed the UVscale |
| 01:37.22 | patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/lesscrap.png |
| 01:37.54 | patlabor221 | seems that the system only uses 1/2 of the outer wall texture |
| 01:39.10 | Noodleman | <subliminal message>jpgs</subliminial message> |
| 01:39.45 | michaelh2 | bandwith challenged people unite! |
| 01:39.49 | patlabor221 | nevvva..... quality or DEATHH!!!!! |
| 01:40.14 | michaelh2 | < 15" monitor people unite! |
| 01:40.21 | captain_proton | at least turn up the compression on the png :P |
| 01:40.57 | patlabor221 | I could do giff |
| 01:41.05 | captain_proton | egads |
| 01:41.12 | captain_proton | just turn up the compression on the png to 8 or 9 |
| 01:41.32 | patlabor221 | I would if I had a setting for it |
| 01:41.49 | captain_proton | uf |
| 01:41.52 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:41.57 | patlabor221 | i'll do 'pegs for ya |
| 01:42.04 | patlabor221 | pansys :) |
| 01:42.09 | doughecka | lame |
| 01:42.24 | patlabor221 | BBJ is online |
| 01:42.39 | scanline | Barbeque Basted Jello? |
| 01:42.47 | patlabor221 | nope, wana see it |
| 01:43.19 | *** kick/#bzflag [doughecka!~jeffm@208.48.199.214] by patlabor221 (Big Boot o' Justice!!!) |
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| 01:43.50 | Noodleman | doughecka: what's up? |
| 01:43.56 | michaelh2 | wazzzzzzzzzzzzup |
| 01:44.23 | Noodleman | i like to say "whatch'poo?" |
| 01:44.40 | patlabor221 | cus I don't use streams |
| 01:44.45 | patlabor221 | and it matched what was there |
| 01:44.49 | michaelh2 | because strcmp(string, string) == 0 is cool |
| 01:44.59 | patlabor221 | stricmp |
| 01:45.03 | captain_proton | i mean things like defining all the variables used in a function at the top of that function |
| 01:45.11 | patlabor221 | ohh habit |
| 01:45.33 | michaelh2 | lot of c programming ? |
| 01:45.37 | patlabor221 | C style |
| 01:45.51 | patlabor221 | I learnd C before C++ was considerd "stable" |
| 01:46.25 | michaelh2 | I thought C was a bit wacked when I realized all variables had to be defined at the tops of functions |
| 01:46.42 | patlabor221 | when cap is all old n' stuff some whipersnaper is gonna come up and say 'why is there soo much of this C++ type of coding in here? use more flobjects" |
| 01:46.50 | michaelh2 | simplifies compilers I suppose |
| 01:47.09 | captain_proton | ooo flobjects |
| 01:47.20 | patlabor221 | yeah wave of the future |
| 01:47.24 | michaelh2 | was ist dass? |
| 01:47.36 | patlabor221 | when I learnd C it was such a big improvement over pascall |
| 01:47.56 | michaelh2 | hmmm |
| 01:48.04 | patlabor221 | at that time one of our products was still actively developed in pascall |
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| 01:48.34 | michaelh2 | can't keep the man down |
| 01:48.45 | michaelh2 | :) |
| 01:49.06 | patlabor221 | looking at the code, I should have made all the functions take const std::string refs no const char* |
| 01:49.22 | patlabor221 | even tho one would think they would have an auto cast in the template |
| 01:49.42 | michaelh2 | well there's already so much c string code in bzflag anyway |
| 01:49.52 | patlabor221 | I had a version that was all class based but it looked wierd being in there. |
| 01:50.26 | michaelh2 | the server seems to be more c ish I suppose |
| 01:50.47 | michaelh2 | what with the one big honkin' file concept |
| 01:51.09 | patlabor221 | archeteture man, the liniar flow goto jumpy archetecture. |
| 01:51.16 | michaelh2 | simplifies the make file huh |
| 01:52.24 | patlabor221 | mmmm Halle Berry |
| 01:52.50 | michaelh2 | do you just type fast or do spell bad ? :) |
| 01:53.09 | patlabor221 | both why? |
| 01:53.17 | michaelh2 | just curious..... |
| 01:53.26 | patlabor221 | I reverse lots of leters too :) |
| 01:53.34 | michaelh2 | not that I am a great speller by any means |
| 01:53.45 | patlabor221 | I seem to compress stuff as well. |
| 01:53.54 | michaelh2 | lossy compression huh? |
| 01:54.08 | patlabor221 | no, just noone has the codec |
| 01:54.17 | michaelh2 | uh hu |
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| 01:54.34 | michaelh2 | it's the patp3 |
| 01:54.48 | patlabor221 | or like that girl on bzbb that uses compressed ebonics |
| 01:55.43 | captain_proton | chik? |
| 01:57.26 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:00.02 | patlabor221 | time to get home and watch some movies :) |
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| 02:04.25 | doughecka | Noodleman: :) |
| 02:07.28 | Noodleman | doughecka: yeah? |
| 02:07.43 | doughecka | huh, opera wont allow me to moderate slashdot :( |
| 02:07.47 | doughecka | brb |
| 02:09.15 | sussudio | opera is wise |
| 02:12.41 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:12.58 | doughecka | house sold yet? |
| 02:14.03 | sussudio | ~pig spam |
| 02:14.04 | | spam is 20% pig! |
| 02:14.23 | doughecka | its the sawdust... |
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| 02:22.51 | jslagle | I got my voodoo3 working! |
| 02:24.53 | jslagle | Now I get 25fps! |
| 02:26.34 | Noodleman | shazam! |
| 02:26.38 | Noodleman | :-) |
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| 02:43.51 | Noodleman | doughecka: someone from evansville *wisconsin* is visiting noodleroni.com :-) |
| 02:44.30 | sussudio | wisconsin has lots of pigs |
| 02:44.43 | Noodleman | and cows |
| 02:44.51 | sussudio | and beer |
| 02:44.57 | Noodleman | and cheeeeeeeeese |
| 02:45.00 | sussudio | pigs, cows, beer. a dangerous combination. |
| 02:45.08 | Noodleman | haha |
| 02:47.19 | michaelh2 | :) |
| 02:47.59 | michaelh2 | so when will we be back? |
| 02:48.08 | captain_proton | hm? |
| 02:48.31 | michaelh2 | We'll be back shortly! |
| 02:48.52 | michaelh2 | "We'll be back shortly!" |
| 02:55.07 | Noodleman | ah, hopefully in a couple of hours |
| 02:55.30 | Noodleman | that's being served off of a perl webserver right now :-) |
| 02:55.53 | Noodleman | i'm upgrading to apache 2.0 and reinstalling php |
| 02:57.07 | michaelh2 | ah so |
| 03:00.20 | Noodleman | has anyone else seen when xmms goes crazy, and spawns about a half dozen child processes and takes up all of the cpu? |
| 03:00.57 | michaelh2 | cpu cancer ! |
| 03:01.09 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 03:01.23 | michaelh2 | what is xmms |
| 03:01.53 | scanline | the eXtreme Multiple Monitor Stacker |
| 03:02.20 | michaelh2 | o k |
| 03:02.35 | Noodleman | it's actually analogous to winamp |
| 03:02.42 | Noodleman | tsktsk -> scanline |
| 03:02.43 | michaelh2 | oh |
| 03:02.46 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 03:02.47 | captain_proton | scanline: i have one of those to play with, but its called a "fusion" |
| 03:02.56 | scanline | :) |
| 03:07.03 | Noodleman | anybody see finding nemo yet? |
| 03:11.20 | michaelh2 | finding nematode? |
| 03:11.28 | Noodleman | haha |
| 03:11.43 | Noodleman | parasites are pretty cool |
| 03:12.10 | Noodleman | but the coolest parasite is a trichina :-) |
| 03:13.13 | Noodleman | worms in your intestines are ok, worms swimming around in your blood stream are pretty cool, but a worm wriggling around in your muscle, now that's cool! |
| 03:13.53 | jslagle | Woo! Now I have UT working too! |
| 03:14.07 | jslagle | I should make some popcorn. |
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| 03:34.25 | doughecka | greetings |
| 03:34.34 | Noodleman | netsplit time |
| 03:34.47 | sussudio | hrmpf. |
| 03:34.51 | sussudio | stfu doug |
| 03:35.22 | Noodleman | stfu == "stop that freakin uselessness" :-) |
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| 03:49.58 | Noodleman | the netsplit has ended |
| 03:50.12 | fiberchunks | ah, that's what that was -- wondered why xchat died on me |
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| 04:08.43 | Noodleman | m00 |
| 04:09.20 | sussudio | why are there only degenerate assholes on pacbell dsl? |
| 04:15.16 | Noodleman | sussudio: don't be too hard on them, they're mostly from san francisco :-) |
| 04:16.18 | sussudio | time for another quake. |
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| 04:35.44 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Patches 748398 (test): Status->'Closed' Resolution->'Invalid' Priority->'1' |
| 04:35.45 | CIA | lets try this |
| 04:38.42 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Bugs 748453 (test): Status->'Closed' Resolution->'Invalid' |
| 04:41.44 | CIA | davidtrowbridge opened Bugs 748651 (test): |
| 04:41.45 | CIA | can we open new bugs correctly? |
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| 04:45.20 | captain_proton | ok, now back to real work :) |
| 04:45.54 | MrApathyCream | anyone know off hand what default speedtol is? |
| 04:46.08 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: speed tolerance |
| 04:46.15 | MrApathyCream | yes, what the default value is |
| 04:46.24 | captain_proton | you'd have to look at the source |
| 04:46.30 | MrApathyCream | i was lazy |
| 04:46.39 | MrApathyCream | (default should be in help) |
| 04:49.25 | captain_proton | sorry about all the test message junk today :) |
| 04:49.29 | captain_proton | but it works now |
| 04:50.51 | MrApathyCream | hmmm |
| 04:51.02 | MrApathyCream | speedtolerance isn't a percentage as the help specifies... fixing |
| 04:52.41 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Bugs 748651 (test): Status->'Closed' Resolution->'Invalid' |
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| 04:54.29 | doughecka | greetings |
| 04:55.35 | Noodleman | noodleroni.com and s.b.o work again |
| 04:56.08 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: added new configuration options |
| 04:56.24 | MrApathyCream | --to bzfs_conf.html |
| 04:57.09 | MrApathyCream | bbi2 |
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| 04:58.26 | m00z0rz | m00z0rz |
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| 05:01.35 | captain_proton | wb MrApathyCream |
| 05:02.31 | captain_proton | congrats MrApathyCream! |
| 05:02.44 | captain_proton | since CIA went up, you're the 42nd committer |
| 05:04.14 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 05:04.20 | captain_proton | 130 more lines to de-ickify |
| 05:05.47 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: ? |
| 05:05.57 | MrApathyCream | ah, ok, 42 |
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| 05:07.26 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: speedtol help says it's a percentage..., so enter it as such, not 1.125, etc. |
| 05:08.34 | trepan | hi cap, i'm likin' some of your changes (cyan msgs, etc...) |
| 05:08.36 | trepan | nice work |
| 05:08.47 | captain_proton | Chestal made some of those |
| 05:09.42 | trepan | well, at least now i can junk my personal patches |
| 05:15.35 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: add flag shot limit settings to bzfs_conf.html |
| 05:23.32 | MrApathyCream | surrendering? |
| 05:23.43 | fiberchunks | same as 42 |
| 05:30.46 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: cleanup help |
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| 05:34.46 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 05:35.57 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: eep i speech english very welly |
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| 05:38.27 | captain_proton | nice one MrApathyCream |
| 05:39.55 | MrApathyCream | wassa |
| 05:40.36 | MrApathyCream | anyone notice the sb graphics? |
| 05:40.57 | Patlabor221 | what about them? |
| 05:41.09 | MrApathyCream | just new |
| 05:41.36 | Patlabor221 | yeah cap applied jzuans' patch and I updated the images to make them a bit better |
| 05:41.41 | Patlabor221 | cap do they look ok now? |
| 05:41.43 | MrApathyCream | yah :| |
| 05:41.45 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: you mind if i slap some accident pics somewhere on asgard? |
| 05:43.05 | Patlabor221 | have at it |
| 05:43.09 | fiberchunks | thx |
| 05:43.11 | Patlabor221 | just make you a folder |
| 05:43.26 | fiberchunks | where? |
| 05:43.36 | Patlabor221 | where ever you want |
| 05:43.44 | fiberchunks | wanna be able to link to 'em in the forum so's ppl can gander at em |
| 05:44.03 | Patlabor221 | well /var/www/virtual/asgard/ is www.bakadigital.com |
| 05:44.12 | fiberchunks | ah, there we go - thx |
| 05:44.24 | Patlabor221 | and /var/www/virtual/bzbb/ is bzbb.bakadigital.com |
| 05:45.02 | fiberchunks | haven't compiled apache yet, otherwise i wouldn't be bothering you |
| 05:45.21 | Patlabor221 | it's no bother, your doing the work :) |
| 05:45.25 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 05:45.43 | Patlabor221 | the drive is hardly full you can allways put what ever you want up there |
| 05:46.09 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 05:46.12 | MrApathyCream | it would be cool if sb created IDLs, i wouldn't think that would be hard as the code is probably ready to go. |
| 05:46.14 | Patlabor221 | unless it's pictures of Halle Berry nekkid... |
| 05:46.22 | Patlabor221 | cus then you need to tell me first |
| 05:46.24 | MrApathyCream | *wouuldn't |
| 05:46.25 | fiberchunks | ah, come on :) |
| 05:46.29 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: compiles here but i'm not an expert enough on it to test everything - submitting a new patch |
| 05:46.45 | Patlabor221 | IDL? |
| 05:46.57 | MrApathyCream | inter-dimensional lights |
| 05:46.58 | Patlabor221 | fiber, cus Halle Berry is HOT :) |
| 05:47.05 | Patlabor221 | ahhh, the port effect |
| 05:47.13 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 05:47.20 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: can you test? |
| 05:47.27 | captain_proton | i imagine if there's a bug it'll be in the file reading code |
| 05:47.36 | captain_proton | because i hacked that together without really thinking about it |
| 05:47.37 | MrApathyCream | watcha doin? |
| 05:47.49 | Patlabor221 | well if you didn't change it it shoudl work ok |
| 05:47.57 | Patlabor221 | now your gonna make me get patch arn't you |
| 05:48.01 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: FILE* is out in bz |
| 05:48.11 | captain_proton | at least supposed to be |
| 05:48.53 | CIA | davidtrowbridge opened Patches 748660 (admin patch of destiny!): |
| 05:48.54 | CIA | give that a go |
| 05:48.56 | Patlabor221 | let me consume the biomass for the evening then I will get pach |
| 05:48.59 | captain_proton | whoobah! |
| 05:49.06 | Patlabor221 | for great justice! |
| 05:49.37 | Patlabor221 | ugg this is barely edible |
| 05:50.01 | Patlabor221 | no wonder they were 4 for 8$ |
| 05:50.24 | fiberchunks | goody -- then i'll diddle em tomorrow with gimp (hehehe), and ship to asgard -- going to bed - nite all |
| 05:50.32 | captain_proton | the supermarket next to campus has some surprisingly edible 10/$2 burritos :) |
| 05:50.33 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 05:50.41 | MrApathyCream | no farkin comments? |
| 05:50.50 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: its Patlabor221's farkin code :) |
| 05:50.52 | fiberchunks | we must set them the bomb! |
| 05:50.53 | Patlabor221 | these are not those burriots sadly |
| 05:50.55 | captain_proton | i just de-ickified it |
| 05:51.06 | Patlabor221 | my code farks with the best of them |
| 05:51.09 | MrApathyCream | i mean in the patch submission |
| 05:51.18 | MrApathyCream | on sf |
| 05:51.22 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: you want a description of it? |
| 05:51.27 | MrApathyCream | yah |
| 05:51.27 | captain_proton | "admin patch of destiny" |
| 05:51.30 | Patlabor221 | it's the super admin patch of justtice |
| 05:51.34 | MrApathyCream | boooooo |
| 05:51.36 | Patlabor221 | and that desitny crap |
| 05:51.36 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 05:51.43 | Patlabor221 | it's chanserv and nickserv in BZ |
| 05:51.48 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: adds irc-style registration, ghosting, and fine-grained permission granting |
| 05:51.58 | Patlabor221 | no more /password :) |
| 05:52.12 | MrApathyCream | nifty |
| 05:52.28 | Patlabor221 | ok this dinner is NOT going to cut it |
| 05:52.42 | MrApathyCream | going in? |
| 05:52.53 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: thats the plan |
| 05:53.00 | MrApathyCream | coo |
| 05:53.03 | captain_proton | ooh mingw support |
| 05:53.06 | captain_proton | this is cool |
| 05:53.16 | captain_proton | first release in a long time that really supports all the platforms its supposed to |
| 05:53.30 | Patlabor221 | what sounds less nasty, beef stroganoff or swedish meatballs? |
| 05:53.39 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:53.41 | captain_proton | meatballs? |
| 05:53.47 | MrApathyCream | stick with the sweedes |
| 05:53.52 | Patlabor221 | thats what it says on the box |
| 05:54.00 | Patlabor221 | tho the pictures look almost the same |
| 05:54.14 | Patlabor221 | I think they just take beef and egg noodles and combine them difrently |
| 05:54.18 | MrApathyCream | strog is more winy, but very close |
| 05:55.51 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: can you sanity check the file read functions? i think i was insane at the time... |
| 05:56.01 | Patlabor221 | ya know, if my in kitchen posotron collider ever breaks, I am SCREWED |
| 05:56.30 | MrApathyCream | wow really fine grain..... "sorry you don't have flaghistory privileges" |
| 05:56.41 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: want me to patch? |
| 05:56.57 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: sure, why not |
| 05:56.58 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 05:57.02 | Patlabor221 | everything |
| 05:57.03 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 05:57.04 | captain_proton | be sure to test before committing anything :) |
| 05:57.11 | captain_proton | because, well, i had to "rewrite" it all |
| 05:58.15 | MrApathyCream | you can commit |
| 05:58.31 | Patlabor221 | mac what is it http://sourceforge.net/unixtools ? |
| 05:58.37 | Patlabor221 | or something like that? |
| 05:58.42 | MrApathyCream | sounds right |
| 05:58.43 | captain_proton | i'll let you guys dink around with it while i go undirty myself |
| 05:58.46 | MrApathyCream | lemme look |
| 05:59.02 | Patlabor221 | reinstalled windows, got barely anything I used to have :( |
| 05:59.02 | MrApathyCream | unixutils |
| 05:59.48 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 06:00.35 | Patlabor221 | hmmm looks like it's down or they moved it |
| 06:00.53 | MrApathyCream | hmm |
| 06:00.59 | Patlabor221 | and there search is down |
| 06:02.26 | MrApathyCream | http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ |
| 06:02.42 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 06:03.34 | Patlabor221 | awww look a nice installer. |
| 06:03.54 | MrApathyCream | patches clean, that's good |
| 06:05.19 | MrApathyCream | oops compile errors |
| 06:06.08 | Patlabor221 | yay I have patch AND CVS works |
| 06:06.36 | MrApathyCream | sill MS |
| 06:06.38 | MrApathyCream | silly MS |
| 06:07.09 | Patlabor221 | so I put the diff in the bzflag root dir, and then what are the params for patch? |
| 06:08.29 | Patlabor221 | patch .\ admin.diff ? |
| 06:09.12 | MrApathyCream | patch -p0 -i pathtodiff -d pathtobzflagdir |
| 06:10.10 | Patlabor221 | would patch -i file.diff work if I was in the root dir? |
| 06:10.10 | MrApathyCream | make sure you conver the diff file to windows line endings or patch will fail---how ironic |
| 06:10.15 | Patlabor221 | cus that made a lot of text |
| 06:10.35 | MrApathyCream | mine is |
| 06:10.49 | MrApathyCream | patch -p0 -i e:\bz\admin.diff -d e:\bz\bz_cvs_admin\bzflag |
| 06:11.02 | Patlabor221 | oh full paths |
| 06:11.05 | Patlabor221 | how "fun" |
| 06:14.01 | Patlabor221 | I will now curse no less then 3 gods |
| 06:14.53 | MrApathyCream | ? |
| 06:15.10 | MrApathyCream | hehe |
| 06:15.25 | MrApathyCream | lil trouble patching? |
| 06:16.19 | Patlabor221 | yeah crashes the patcher |
| 06:16.57 | CIA | dbrosius changed Patches 748660 (admin patch of destiny!): |
| 06:16.58 | CIA | Updated patch to fix ms problems with repeated scoped var |
| 06:16.59 | CIA | decls |
| 06:17.26 | Patlabor221 | is cap redeclaring loop vars again? |
| 06:17.58 | MrApathyCream | yup, |
| 06:18.12 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: see above, |
| 06:18.25 | MrApathyCream | you need to convert the diff file to windows line endings of patch crashes -- how ironic |
| 06:18.34 | MrApathyCream | s/of/or/ |
| 06:18.37 | Patlabor221 | it apears to have windows line endings |
| 06:18.46 | Patlabor221 | and it dosn't crash if I don't do -p0 |
| 06:19.01 | MrApathyCream | *shrug* |
| 06:19.50 | MrApathyCream | are thes files hand created? or through bzflag |
| 06:20.05 | Patlabor221 | 2 of them are made if you specifiy locations |
| 06:20.14 | Patlabor221 | the pasword and user databases |
| 06:20.19 | Patlabor221 | the group file is hand made |
| 06:20.36 | MrApathyCream | how do you specify admin password? |
| 06:20.41 | Patlabor221 | you don't |
| 06:20.55 | Patlabor221 | you give users the permisions they need by groups |
| 06:21.04 | Patlabor221 | there is an admin group that has all permisions |
| 06:21.04 | captain_proton | so how bad did i screw up? |
| 06:21.31 | captain_proton | ohh i see |
| 06:21.32 | MrApathyCream | how does one become in the admin group then |
| 06:21.39 | captain_proton | blaming ME for vc++'s messed up for scoping |
| 06:21.50 | Patlabor221 | it's not in the {} |
| 06:21.50 | MrApathyCream | hehe always |
| 06:21.53 | Patlabor221 | it's outside :) |
| 06:22.03 | Patlabor221 | well one can edit the userdb onece one is in there |
| 06:22.19 | Patlabor221 | or if you do use a /passoword, you can use that to set your user to admin |
| 06:22.37 | Patlabor221 | but since the dbs are persistant, you only have to do that once |
| 06:23.07 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/BZAdminCommands.txt |
| 06:23.14 | MrApathyCream | coo |
| 06:23.40 | captain_proton | does it break horribly badly? |
| 06:23.49 | captain_proton | or have you not yet gotten it to compile? =} |
| 06:25.06 | MrApathyCream | it compiles now |
| 06:25.09 | MrApathyCream | small problem |
| 06:25.16 | MrApathyCream | posted a patch back to sf |
| 06:25.49 | captain_proton | does it run without exploding? |
| 06:30.03 | Patlabor221 | yay -p1 worked :) |
| 06:30.16 | Patlabor221 | patch -p1 -i admin.diff |
| 06:31.19 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 06:31.29 | MrApathyCream | although i haven't been able to identify yet |
| 06:31.32 | MrApathyCream | trying again |
| 06:32.15 | Patlabor221 | wtf net in bzflag dosn't build now tho |
| 06:32.21 | MrApathyCream | ah there we go, operator error |
| 06:32.30 | MrApathyCream | builds for me? |
| 06:32.42 | Patlabor221 | :\documents and settings\jeffm\desktop\newness\bzflag\src\net\multicast.cxx(426) : error C2065: 'socklen_t' : undeclared identifier |
| 06:32.54 | MrApathyCream | you useing dot net? |
| 06:33.01 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 06:33.03 | Patlabor221 | vc 6 |
| 06:33.03 | MrApathyCream | vc? |
| 06:33.07 | MrApathyCream | hmm |
| 06:33.08 | Patlabor221 | well vs6 |
| 06:33.11 | Patlabor221 | same as allways |
| 06:33.12 | MrApathyCream | me too |
| 06:33.16 | Patlabor221 | it's a new install |
| 06:33.25 | MrApathyCream | apply the patch? |
| 06:33.26 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: ick |
| 06:33.34 | captain_proton | i changed the socklen_t stuff for solaris |
| 06:33.36 | Patlabor221 | yeah i did apply the patch |
| 06:33.43 | captain_proton | earlier today |
| 06:33.58 | Patlabor221 | don't go on a virgin VC6 install with SP5 |
| 06:34.20 | Patlabor221 | mac did you apply it to new cvs? |
| 06:34.32 | Patlabor221 | and did you build net? |
| 06:35.33 | MrApathyCream | so then i create a group in group db, and change my entry in userdb from default to groupname? |
| 06:35.51 | Patlabor221 | add groupname |
| 06:35.55 | MrApathyCream | applied to new cvs, didn't build nete |
| 06:35.57 | Patlabor221 | groups are aditive |
| 06:36.32 | MrApathyCream | MRAPATHYCREAM |
| 06:36.32 | MrApathyCream | DEFAULT REGISTERED MYGROUP |
| 06:36.36 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 06:36.46 | Patlabor221 | then the 2 blank lines :) |
| 06:36.52 | Patlabor221 | MAXWELL'S SILVER HAMMER |
| 06:36.52 | Patlabor221 | DEFAULT REGISTERED |
| 06:36.52 | Patlabor221 | NINJASOCKS |
| 06:36.52 | Patlabor221 | DEFAULT REGISTERED ADMIN |
| 06:37.14 | Patlabor221 | the system will allways make default and admin groups |
| 06:37.24 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 06:37.26 | MrApathyCream | nifty |
| 06:37.31 | Patlabor221 | this is my groups.txt |
| 06:37.31 | Patlabor221 | COPS:KICK BAN BANLIST UNBAN INFO |
| 06:37.32 | Patlabor221 | REF:FLAGMOD COUNTDOWN ENDGAME SUPERKILL INFO |
| 06:37.52 | MrApathyCream | does bz need to restart on group changes? |
| 06:37.57 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 06:38.07 | MrApathyCream | can admin modify files remotely? |
| 06:38.17 | MrApathyCream | (thru bz)? |
| 06:38.20 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 06:38.24 | Patlabor221 | sorta |
| 06:38.30 | Patlabor221 | they can assign and remove groups to people |
| 06:38.39 | Patlabor221 | they can't make new groups |
| 06:38.44 | Patlabor221 | this is the inital implemenation |
| 06:38.54 | Patlabor221 | realy they shouldn't be files but real databases |
| 06:38.59 | MrApathyCream | ok, so you have to make groups first, then restart, but after that assigning people to groups is dynamic |
| 06:39.00 | MrApathyCream | nice |
| 06:39.13 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 06:39.25 | Patlabor221 | basicly set up your groups in the begining |
| 06:39.41 | Patlabor221 | it also supports explid allows and denys but there is no interface for it |
| 06:39.51 | Patlabor221 | on a per user basis |
| 06:40.05 | Patlabor221 | so you coudl make someone a cop but make them not be able to ban |
| 06:40.15 | Patlabor221 | but get all the other cop perms |
| 06:40.48 | Patlabor221 | if the group db has entrys for defualt and admin then they are used instead of the internaly created ones |
| 06:40.55 | Patlabor221 | so you could make it so everyone could kick |
| 06:41.03 | Patlabor221 | if you realy wanted to be silly |
| 06:41.27 | Patlabor221 | more then likely a server admin will allow anyone to do a countdown |
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| 06:43.49 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, bzfs exits with error code |
| 06:43.56 | MrApathyCream | also can't identify the second time in |
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| 06:44.29 | Patlabor221 | heh I can't even build to test |
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| 06:44.53 | MrApathyCream | running server in debug |
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| 06:48.04 | Patlabor221 | what is a socketlen_t* ? |
| 06:49.21 | Patlabor221 | there I #defed it as an int |
| 06:50.19 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: its the length of a socket file descriptor |
| 06:50.26 | MrApathyCream | when the password file is read in, the carriage return at the end is added to the password |
| 06:50.31 | captain_proton | err, length of a socket structure |
| 06:50.36 | MrApathyCream | and thus the passwords don't match |
| 06:50.49 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: see, i said i was insane :P |
| 06:50.52 | Patlabor221 | it's an int*, it now casts it as such, since that's what the fucntion asks for. |
| 06:51.06 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: int* is old bsd sockets, so that makes sense |
| 06:51.13 | captain_proton | POSIX requires socklen_t* |
| 06:51.24 | captain_proton | wasn't aware that windows was so far back in the dark ages :) |
| 06:51.54 | Patlabor221 | windows don't have posix compliant sockets |
| 06:52.02 | Patlabor221 | it's winsock |
| 06:52.12 | Patlabor221 | difrent thing, just similar api |
| 06:52.15 | MrApathyCream | should be |
| 06:52.17 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.17 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.35 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: right :P |
| 06:53.10 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: fixinating cygwin & mingw32 builds |
| 06:53.20 | MrApathyCream | anon cvs down |
| 06:53.25 | MrApathyCream | ssh still up |
| 06:53.41 | captain_proton | sf has been having lots of problems with anon cvs recently |
| 06:54.19 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: credit where credit is due |
| 06:55.40 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Patches 748532 (Building support for MINGW32 / Windows): Status->'Closed' Resolution->'Accepted' |
| 06:58.38 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Made Solaris changes build on windows ( it's winsock damnit) |
| 06:58.50 | captain_proton | hm, strange |
| 06:59.01 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 06:59.17 | captain_proton | the 3 commit messages here |
| 06:59.27 | Patlabor221 | yeah odd |
| 06:59.53 | Patlabor221 | it was multiple files, but then it could be my cvs client, it may have done them as seperate jobs |
| 07:00.25 | captain_proton | could be |
| 07:00.31 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Patches 726438 (win32-cygwin build support): Resolution->'Out of Date' |
| 07:00.32 | CIA | can someone test, atupone's fixes for this didn't require |
| 07:00.33 | CIA | changes in network.h |
| 07:00.34 | CIA | dbrosius changed Patches 748660 (admin patch of destiny!): |
| 07:00.35 | CIA | When password is read from file, cr is appended making |
| 07:00.36 | CIA | matching impossible, fixed. |
| 07:00.51 | Patlabor221 | I am not liking the new version of TortoiseCVS |
| 07:02.01 | captain_proton | 'night MrApathyCream |
| 07:02.02 | MrApathyCream | nice job, Patlabor221 |
| 07:02.07 | MrApathyCream | you too cappy |
| 07:02.09 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: does it all work now? |
| 07:02.23 | MrApathyCream | haven't checked all the permissions |
| 07:02.31 | MrApathyCream | but seems to basically work |
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| 07:02.52 | iLL_Afk | lo all |
| 07:02.56 | captain_proton | ok, i'm gonna do it then :) |
| 07:03.03 | iLL_Afk | anyone know why the grid on the field has never been disabled? |
| 07:04.08 | iLL_Afk | how goes it cap |
| 07:04.10 | captain_proton | iLL_Afk: needed on textureless |
| 07:04.43 | iLL_Afk | uhm |
| 07:04.47 | iLL_Afk | whys that? |
| 07:04.57 | Patlabor221 | how bout if I make it disabled if it loads the high res textures :) |
| 07:04.59 | captain_proton | whoa |
| 07:05.01 | captain_proton | Patlabor221 |
| 07:05.05 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 07:05.13 | captain_proton | did you commit the admin patch of justice along with your little socklen_t fix? |
| 07:05.39 | Patlabor221 | no, I turned off the bzfs.cxx ( or at least thats what I told it to do ) |
| 07:06.05 | Patlabor221 | god damnit!!! |
| 07:06.13 | Patlabor221 | I hate this thing now |
| 07:06.17 | Patlabor221 | they busted it all up |
| 07:06.42 | Patlabor221 | I don't think you are, as I show it checked in |
| 07:07.11 | Patlabor221 | piec of monky pooooooooooo |
| 07:07.28 | captain_proton | no i'm insane |
| 07:07.40 | captain_proton | ok, NOW time to do it =) |
| 07:07.48 | Patlabor221 | you sure, then why is it green here, it should be red |
| 07:08.10 | captain_proton | yeah sure |
| 07:08.21 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: finely grained admin patches of justice! |
| 07:08.21 | Patlabor221 | ok I still hate this thing then |
| 07:08.30 | Patlabor221 | it should be freakin red |
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| 07:13.35 | captain_proton | mornin' larsl |
| 07:16.12 | larsl | Good morning. |
| 07:16.19 | larsl | Have to go. |
| 07:16.46 | captain_proton | larsl_not_here: sourceforge tracker activity (bugs, patches, etc) is now splatted here :) |
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| 07:19.47 | Patlabor221 | ahhh there we go, old CVS, with new clean icons :) |
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| 07:38.04 | bomber | moin |
| 07:50.41 | captain_proton | i go sleep now |
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| 09:33.31 | Chestal | tag |
| 09:35.51 | sussudio | you're it? |
| 09:44.52 | Chestal | Pilotfish: es ging ja um Verkettungen ala foo || bar && baz || gnorz |
| 09:44.53 | Chestal | oops |
| 09:47.22 | iLLf8d | night all |
| 09:50.27 | sussudio | so where did ducati go |
| 09:56.34 | Chestal | will be back later today I hope, still problems with the power outage |
| 10:00.13 | sussudio | k |
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| 12:42.38 | [dmp] | heh. |
| 12:43.28 | Chestal | uhoh :-) |
| 13:36.33 | larsl | GNOME killed CIA? =) |
| 13:39.57 | doughecka | ouch: http://forums.clubsi.com/showflat.php? |
| 13:39.57 | doughecka | Cat=&Board=UBB4&Number=2493445&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1 |
| 13:40.10 | doughecka | bah, it split it |
| 13:40.22 | doughecka | http://forums.clubsi.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB4&Number=2493445&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1 |
| 13:40.24 | doughecka | there |
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| 14:05.31 | Chestal | hi Tim |
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| 14:06.21 | doughecka | greetings |
| 14:12.01 | fiberchunks | doughecka: that your car? ;P |
| 14:12.37 | doughecka | nooo |
| 14:12.47 | doughecka | watercooled monsters |
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| 14:58.37 | CIA | commit by chestal: minor changes to admin stuff and some cleanup |
| 14:58.48 | doughecka | lots of cleanup |
| 15:10.44 | captain_proton | Chestal: hmm |
| 15:11.04 | captain_proton | Chestal: why did you remove the existance checks from getUserInfo() ? |
| 15:13.28 | Chestal | proton: because theother code didn't work, it got a copy of the info and modified that when adding a group |
| 15:13.54 | Chestal | proton: code which calls the function checks for userexist anyway and didn't ever use the return value from getuserinfo |
| 15:14.15 | captain_proton | yeah ok :) |
| 15:16.07 | Chestal | uh? |
| 15:16.46 | captain_proton | we build cleanly on irix, solaris, cygwin & mingw32 now |
| 15:17.19 | Chestal | what's mingw32? |
| 15:17.34 | captain_proton | a windows port of gcc that doesn't rely on the cygwin libraries |
| 15:17.43 | Chestal | prepare for next commit, replaced bool [] with bitset |
| 15:17.52 | captain_proton | yay |
| 15:18.20 | captain_proton | Chestal: i don't know why, but transform() wasn't working in the makeupper() function |
| 15:22.11 | Chestal | hmm, string::length or string::size? it's the same, yes? |
| 15:22.24 | captain_proton | *should* be |
| 15:22.31 | captain_proton | string::length is the official version |
| 15:22.44 | captain_proton | string::size may be different if its using uchar, for example |
| 15:23.30 | Chestal | sgi docs say it's the same |
| 15:23.45 | Chestal | bzflag seems to use both |
| 15:24.09 | captain_proton | for the sgi stl, yes |
| 15:24.24 | captain_proton | i think HP has them separate, and maybe IBM |
| 15:25.52 | Chestal | but what is the semantic? |
| 15:26.31 | captain_proton | string::length will always return the number of characters |
| 15:26.48 | Chestal | which makes sense :-) |
| 15:29.09 | Chestal | parsePermissionString looks strange |
| 15:29.13 | Chestal | not that it's really used so far |
| 15:29.48 | captain_proton | it is kind of strange |
| 15:30.01 | Chestal | do we use stringstreams? |
| 15:30.01 | captain_proton | patlabor221 has an affinity for writing code that works, but its not all that pretty |
| 15:30.13 | Chestal | then I would change it to use istringstream and >> |
| 15:30.15 | captain_proton | i don't think we do right now but i don't see why we shouldn't |
| 15:31.15 | Chestal | some older gccs didn't have it, but I suppose those cannot compiel bzflag anyway now |
| 15:31.26 | captain_proton | quite |
| 15:32.40 | captain_proton | i don't see any reason not to use gcc3 constructs |
| 15:32.49 | captain_proton | its available on all the platforms we support |
| 15:33.10 | Chestal | hmm, we use std:: everywhere,don't we? mayeb there's a hidden using clause somewhere? |
| 15:33.19 | Chestal | because ifstream is used without |
| 15:33.44 | captain_proton | aha |
| 15:33.50 | captain_proton | hidden using clause in include/bzfio.h |
| 15:33.59 | Chestal | g++-2.95 works with sstream, too |
| 15:40.31 | TimRiker | string::size gives the storage size. string::length gives the display size. yes? |
| 15:40.44 | captain_proton | TimRiker: that's my understanding |
| 15:40.52 | captain_proton | when using 1-byte chars, its the same thing |
| 15:41.18 | TimRiker | it may be, but the code should still use the right one. |
| 15:41.27 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 15:41.35 | Chestal | no |
| 15:41.39 | captain_proton | its kind of weird |
| 15:41.41 | TimRiker | no? |
| 15:41.47 | Chestal | all other containers return their real size with size(), i.e. number of elements |
| 15:41.51 | captain_proton | because vector::size gives the length of the vector |
| 15:41.54 | Chestal | would be silly to chaneg this for string |
| 15:42.03 | Chestal | I really think it's just an alias |
| 15:42.03 | captain_proton | Chestal: its silly but its how it works :P |
| 15:42.10 | Chestal | string has way too many member functions anyway |
| 15:42.40 | larsl | SGI's docs say that string::length() is a synonym for string::size(). |
| 15:42.44 | TimRiker | string can be a utf8 entity, no? in which case size and length would be different, no? |
| 15:43.05 | Chestal | uhm |
| 15:43.21 | Chestal | not sure if string can do that |
| 15:44.02 | Chestal | well, my new code uses length anyway |
| 15:46.08 | captain_proton | it looks like with gcc3, length and size are synonymous |
| 15:46.23 | captain_proton | and on that note, time to go to work |
| 15:47.18 | Chestal | it's not possible to modify the group and player permissons right now, right? |
| 15:47.26 | Chestal | only possible to add/remove groups from a player |
| 15:47.36 | Chestal | the group file is read, but never written |
| 15:48.01 | Chestal | so, I could define some things manually by editing the user and group files |
| 15:48.36 | captain_proton | Chestal: right - you have to set up your groups before running the server, but you can assign groups without a restart |
| 15:48.47 | captain_proton | so it requires a little forethought on the part of the admin, but whatever |
| 15:49.12 | Chestal | it needs some documentation |
| 15:50.04 | TimRiker | hmm.. looks like they can only be different in std::wstring |
| 15:50.25 | CIA | commit by chestal: std::string assimilates more of the source and brought its big brother stringstream along |
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| 15:54.50 | Chestal | I don't think that std::string can be used easily for UTF-8 |
| 15:55.00 | Chestal | but then, I stil think that using utf-8 in memory is evil |
| 15:55.51 | larsl | Is the SF website down? |
| 15:55.57 | larsl | Oh, just slow. |
| 15:57.26 | Chestal | TimRiker: and I think, that regardless of the char type, for basic_string<T> size() should always be queal to length() |
| 15:57.43 | Chestal | I really need a copy of the standard here |
| 15:57.58 | Chestal | hmm, mv: cannot move `/tmp/2144080537-bzflag' to `/tmp/lastlog-bzflag': Operation not permitted |
| 15:58.05 | Chestal | is that related to CIA? |
| 15:58.59 | larsl | New bzadmin in the patch tracker. |
| 15:59.36 | larsl | Tab completion of callsigns and server commands, command history with up and down keys, and a '/quit' command to exit the client. |
| 16:01.02 | CIA | larsl changed Patches 745567 (bzadmin: Curses-based text client): |
| 16:01.03 | CIA | Some more changes - a /quit command, tab completion of player names |
| 16:01.04 | CIA | and commands, command history (use the up and down arrow keys), |
| 16:01.05 | Chestal | sounds sweet |
| 16:01.06 | CIA | specify callsign on the command line instead of on stdin. |
| 16:01.08 | Chestal | must try it soon |
| 16:01.22 | Chestal | larsl: is it already adjusted to Pat's admin patch in some way? |
| 16:01.23 | larsl | It prints the entire message? |
| 16:01.44 | Chestal | don't ask me |
| 16:01.59 | larsl | Chestal: Not yet, I just took all the commands from the bzfs manual and added those to the tab completer. |
| 16:12.59 | CIA | commit by chestal: prepare readGroupsFile() for use of perms bitset |
| 16:15.47 | prot-work | Chestal: std::string is just an alias for std::basic_string<char> |
| 16:15.58 | prot-work | Chestal: similarly, std::wstring is an alias for std::basic_string<wchar_t> |
| 16:17.05 | prot-work | my ass just realized that i've been bicycling to work for almost a month =/ |
| 16:17.24 | prot-work | Chestal: i'll fix that CIA thang, one minute |
| 16:18.54 | TimRiker | Chestal: I disagree. length should tell me the display length. size should say the byte size. |
| 16:19.26 | TimRiker | ah.. for basic string... yeah, I agree there. |
| 16:21.42 | Nidhoggr | oh, cool :) larsl rules. |
| 16:22.29 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: fixing ciabot permission stuff |
| 16:22.51 | prot-work | now i need to find a trivial change to commit to make it set the perms |
| 16:26.40 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: README for irix compilation |
| 16:26.55 | prot-work | Chestal: you shouldn't have any more permission problems with ciabot |
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| 16:28.40 | fiberchunks | muwahahahahahahaha -- it just can't get any better -- now my truck needs $385 worth of work done to it -- ahahahaha --someone shoot me please |
| 16:35.56 | TimRiker | when default values are printed in the help out put, we should use the variable and not hardcode the value. |
| 16:39.33 | TimRiker | admin patch of destiny? |
| 16:41.57 | TimRiker | is autoconf 1.4 working yet? |
| 16:43.25 | larsl | I don't think so. |
| 16:46.00 | prot-work | admin patch of destiny |
| 16:58.04 | Nidhoggr | larsl, new text client is sweet. :) |
| 17:02.25 | larsl | Nidhoggr: =) |
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| 17:14.25 | prot-work | hehehe |
| 17:14.33 | prot-work | #commits is on footnotes now :) |
| 17:16.15 | Chestal | we should add some of the missing functionality to the admin stuff |
| 17:16.22 | Chestal | and it needs to be documented :-) |
| 17:16.41 | prot-work | yes |
| 17:16.56 | prot-work | patlabor221 wrote up some documentation but it should go in the man pages, etc |
| 17:16.58 | Chestal | the group file parsing is moer or less a dummy |
| 17:17.12 | prot-work | does anyone else just want to convert to docbook and autogenerate web pages & man pages from it? :P |
| 17:17.16 | Chestal | it should be possible to defien groups+permissions in the file, lokks liek he already thought about a format |
| 17:17.52 | Chestal | does the man->html work? i thinkI remember that someone complained that it didn't |
| 17:18.20 | prot-work | i haven't really looked at man->html |
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| 17:51.30 | larsl | How do I get new files into patches when I do 'cvs diff' ? |
| 18:04.11 | prot-work | if there are new files you have to diff -Nru two trees |
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| 18:15.04 | Patlabor221 | musical hosts? |
| 18:15.58 | CIA | larsl opened Patches 749046 (Fixes for automake 1.4): |
| 18:15.59 | CIA | This might break a lot of things, but at least it builds |
| 18:16.00 | CIA | with automake 1.4 on my system. The attached |
| 18:16.01 | CIA | Makefile.am should go in data/l10n. |
| 18:16.53 | CIA | larsl changed Patches 749046 (Fixes for automake 1.4): |
| 18:16.54 | CIA | The Makefile.am, as promised. |
| 18:17.27 | prot-work | was pulling a ninja trick to op people in #commits to control the unwashed masses of slashdot |
| 18:19.07 | Patlabor221 | "ninja leap!" |
| 18:19.41 | larsl | Where did those unwashed masses come from? |
| 18:21.40 | prot-work | larsl: developers.slashdot.org |
| 18:21.47 | prot-work | thank god its not on the front page |
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| 18:23.21 | Noodleman | m0o0o000mM0oMo0M00m00 |
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| 18:24.51 | Noodleman | m00 |
| 18:25.11 | Patlabor221 | does anyone know if anyone runs in software with high detail textures ? |
| 18:25.42 | Noodleman | in software 3D? |
| 18:25.47 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 18:25.48 | Noodleman | i doubt it |
| 18:25.52 | Patlabor221 | me too |
| 18:26.11 | Noodleman | unless they have a cray or a beowulf cluster or something :-) |
| 18:26.22 | Patlabor221 | I am thinking of making it load the high res textures if you set to high detail |
| 18:27.02 | Noodleman | maybe you should add a "hi-res" option and keep the current high detail option |
| 18:27.19 | Patlabor221 | actualy I wonder how much of a slowdown the new textures would give in software |
| 18:27.28 | Noodleman | i have enough trouble trying to keep above 30fps on my gf2 mx :-) |
| 18:27.47 | Patlabor221 | hmmmmm I should make a texture kit for you to try |
| 18:27.54 | prot-work | most of the slowdown on software is fillrate |
| 18:27.57 | Patlabor221 | and see if the textured actualy change it |
| 18:28.02 | prot-work | so it probably wouldn't have too big an impact |
| 18:28.03 | Patlabor221 | yeah, and the fillrate will be the same |
| 18:28.16 | Patlabor221 | so we would just replace the tetxtures en toto |
| 18:28.59 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 18:30.11 | Noodleman | my ex-boss said that proftpd had a nasty bug in it and not to use it right now, but i can't find info on that |
| 18:31.05 | fiberchunks | isn't ftp by definition a 'nasty bug' ? :) |
| 18:31.15 | Noodleman | hehe, i guess so ;-) |
| 18:31.46 | Noodleman | so i wrote a pseudo-ftp server that says to use http to get files |
| 18:32.15 | JBDiGriz | Noodleman: Nice work on the web site, it looks good! |
| 18:32.40 | Noodleman | thx |
| 18:32.46 | Noodleman | it finally works!!! |
| 18:33.03 | Noodleman | had to upgrade to apache 2.0 and reinstall php |
| 18:33.20 | Noodleman | btw, php on apache 2.0 isn't experimental anymore |
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| 18:44.46 | Nidhoggr | hi patlabor221 |
| 18:44.52 | Patlabor221 | hi |
| 18:45.26 | Noodleman | m00 |
| 18:45.37 | Nidhoggr | :) hiya noodleman |
| 18:46.17 | Nidhoggr | mmm fish and chips for lunch. |
| 18:52.26 | Noodleman | cool, got mod_deflate to work :-) |
| 18:53.00 | Noodleman | now, people surfing s.b.o over 56k won't croak so much |
| 19:03.01 | Noodleman | is CIA a bot? |
| 19:03.08 | prot-work | yeah |
| 19:03.18 | Noodleman | what does it do? |
| 19:03.36 | prot-work | notifies the channel of CVS commits & SF tracker activity |
| 19:03.43 | Noodleman | ah |
| 19:05.38 | Nidhoggr | I had to install mod_throttle on a customer's machine the other day. |
| 19:05.56 | Noodleman | busy site? |
| 19:06.00 | Nidhoggr | very |
| 19:06.14 | Nidhoggr | the throttle is for 17Mbps |
| 19:06.29 | Noodleman | woo |
| 19:06.29 | Nidhoggr | and it's pegged for a number of hours a gay. |
| 19:06.30 | Nidhoggr | day |
| 19:06.32 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 19:06.39 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 19:12.05 | Noodleman | Nidhoggr: what's the URL? |
| 19:25.02 | prot-work | Nidhoggr: what colo do you work for? |
| 19:26.06 | Nidhoggr | if I gave you that, then you'd know where I worked ;) |
| 19:26.06 | Nidhoggr | I work for cavecreek |
| 19:26.08 | Nidhoggr | but I also have my own cabinet that I lease space/banwidth from |
| 19:26.15 | Nidhoggr | with another provider. :) |
| 19:28.25 | prot-work | if i do actually steal the maintainership (sometime), would need to host the server list, etc |
| 19:28.53 | Nidhoggr | I have servers to host on. I'm also fairly reasonable. |
| 19:30.11 | prot-work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:33.05 | Patlabor221 | baka is also avaialbne for any of your needs if you wish cap |
| 19:33.22 | prot-work | Patlabor221: i'd be looking for something on a bigger backbone |
| 19:33.37 | Patlabor221 | I figured but thought I should just let you now |
| 19:34.34 | Patlabor221 | I also have the artemisgames stuff, it's suposed to be on like 3 ds3s |
| 19:34.43 | Patlabor221 | but there I don't have shell just web |
| 19:34.48 | Nidhoggr | at some point, it'd be nice to put a server specifically for bzflag stuff up. |
| 19:34.50 | prot-work | yeah, thats different |
| 19:35.31 | prot-work | Nidhoggr: if i take over and people want a full server just for bzflag i'll ask the community for donations ;) |
| 19:35.49 | prot-work | hm, aktiom has some nice deals |
| 19:35.50 | Nidhoggr | good point. |
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| 19:37.46 | Noodleman | http://slsahdot.org/ |
| 19:38.02 | prot-work | $60/month for a relatively unmanaged linux box & 30GB/mo |
| 19:39.02 | prot-work | and free additional IP addresses so long as you can justify them to ARIN |
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| 19:40.36 | prot-work | hiya lurgy-cires |
| 19:40.40 | lurgy-cires | hiya prot-work |
| 19:40.48 | lurgy-cires | so |
| 19:40.49 | lurgy-cires | why not |
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| 19:46.39 | Nidhoggr | 30gb is not all that great though, since 300gb is an average of 1mbps for the month. |
| 19:46.54 | Nidhoggr | I wonder what they charge for additional bandwidth. |
| 19:47.35 | Nidhoggr | secretplace can take up about 1mbps or a little higher at it's peaks. |
| 19:47.43 | prot-work | true |
| 19:47.50 | prot-work | but i probably wouldn't run a bzfs server |
| 19:47.55 | prot-work | just bzfls & maybe subversion |
| 19:48.42 | prot-work | at which point 30gb is pretty significant |
| 19:49.53 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 19:51.18 | michaelh2 | pat can you post somewhere a complete listing of the admin commands you added? Perhaps on the bzbb? |
| 19:52.09 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/BZAdminCommands.txt |
| 19:52.18 | michaelh2 | ah so |
| 19:52.36 | Patlabor221 | I'm updating the manpages with that |
| 19:53.33 | Nidhoggr | when are those going to be in CVS, or are they? |
| 19:53.45 | Noodleman | those would be nice |
| 19:53.51 | Noodleman | can't wait |
| 19:53.54 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 19:53.59 | prot-work | they're in :) |
| 19:54.02 | Chestal | Pat: think we should add at least som eof the missing functionality |
| 19:54.07 | Nidhoggr | oh, cool. |
| 19:54.08 | Noodleman | ooooo |
| 19:54.20 | Patlabor221 | like what chestal? |
| 19:54.37 | Nidhoggr | right now, it's just user/group management... you can't actually use it for adminny stuff yet. :) |
| 19:54.45 | Patlabor221 | sure you can |
| 19:54.48 | Patlabor221 | the perms are in |
| 19:54.51 | Nidhoggr | really? |
| 19:54.53 | Patlabor221 | groups have perms |
| 19:54.54 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:54.59 | Nidhoggr | so it all works? |
| 19:55.00 | Nidhoggr | wow. |
| 19:55.04 | Chestal | Pat: yes, but I cannot set perms for groups, can I? |
| 19:55.04 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:55.05 | prot-work | Patlabor221: i think he means group modification in-game |
| 19:55.06 | Nidhoggr | ;) |
| 19:55.14 | Noodleman | could you add a feature where the passdb file can include another file? |
| 19:55.16 | Patlabor221 | yes you can, just not in game |
| 19:55.26 | Chestal | hmm, I don't think I can |
| 19:55.48 | Noodleman | that would help the bzcops tremendously |
| 19:55.49 | Patlabor221 | it reads the perms for the groups form your groups db |
| 19:56.05 | Patlabor221 | nid, no I can't since it writes to that file as well |
| 19:56.51 | Patlabor221 | chestal the missing things are 1) a way to create and edit groups in game, 2) a way to set per user explicid allows and denys ingame and 3) a way for an adnim to reset someones password. |
| 19:57.04 | prot-work | maybe once we get free reign to do whatever we want we can make a nice ACL type implementation for everything |
| 19:57.08 | prot-work | instead of hardcoding the checks |
| 19:57.33 | Chestal | Pat: as far as I can see, the group permissons are parsed when reading the file, but not stored. Bu tlet me check CVS hitory, so I can be sure that my changes didn't remove any functionality :-) |
| 19:58.12 | Patlabor221 | yes the server never writes permisions, that is why I say there is no way to make or edit groups in game |
| 19:58.33 | Patlabor221 | but usualy your gonna make your groups once at the begining and just assign people to them in game |
| 19:58.50 | Patlabor221 | you can add and remove people all day long from groups in game |
| 19:59.28 | Nidhoggr | so you create groups file seperately by hand? |
| 19:59.34 | Chestal | ye, but this is not what I'm saying, hold on :-) |
| 19:59.36 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:59.40 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 19:59.50 | Chestal | we shoudl deliver a smaple groups file |
| 19:59.50 | Patlabor221 | there is an example in my text file |
| 20:00.08 | Patlabor221 | yeah I had one in my CVS server, looks like cap didn't move it over |
| 20:00.46 | michaelh2 | so once someone registers their callsign no one else can? |
| 20:01.00 | Patlabor221 | yes that is the point |
| 20:01.24 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/groups.txt |
| 20:02.58 | Chestal | Pat: readGroupsFile read the file one lien at a time, for each line it reads the group name and the permission string |
| 20:03.30 | Chestal | Pat: then it creates a clean PlayerAccessInfo and puts tha tinto the groupAcess map |
| 20:03.36 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:03.45 | Patlabor221 | it dosn't ever write it back out. |
| 20:04.02 | Chestal | but there is no code there to transform the permission string(s) to the permission bit array |
| 20:04.09 | Chestal | I think it's just missing |
| 20:04.18 | michaelh2 | if someone registers are they then already identified? |
| 20:04.18 | Patlabor221 | there was before I gave it to cap |
| 20:04.20 | Patlabor221 | let me look |
| 20:04.30 | Chestal | I just made sure that I didn't remove it :-) |
| 20:04.38 | Chestal | so eihter you or proton must be to blame |
| 20:04.49 | Patlabor221 | I know it's in mine |
| 20:04.57 | prot-work | there isn't? |
| 20:05.00 | prot-work | i'm sure i added that |
| 20:05.04 | Patlabor221 | GetPermFromName |
| 20:05.10 | Patlabor221 | and ParsePermisionString |
| 20:05.53 | Chestal | yes, those are in |
| 20:06.01 | Patlabor221 | chesal it's called right there in ReadGroupsFile |
| 20:06.10 | Patlabor221 | that turns it into the bitmask |
| 20:06.23 | Chestal | it's not |
| 20:06.43 | Chestal | readpermsfiel soes it |
| 20:06.47 | Chestal | but readgroupfile doesn't |
| 20:06.52 | Patlabor221 | both do it |
| 20:06.57 | Patlabor221 | let me get latest |
| 20:07.14 | Chestal | nope |
| 20:07.24 | Chestal | not for me, I am browing the CVS repository with the web front end right now |
| 20:07.28 | Patlabor221 | well both are suposed to :) |
| 20:07.48 | Chestal | I did some changes to your code, so it might look alien to you here and there :-) |
| 20:07.51 | Patlabor221 | I'm updating clean let me look at it |
| 20:08.02 | Patlabor221 | actualy you have never seen my code |
| 20:08.09 | Patlabor221 | that was cap's interpretaion of my code |
| 20:08.14 | Patlabor221 | so I am sure I will be lost |
| 20:08.18 | prot-work | the de-ickified version :) |
| 20:08.30 | fiberchunks | interpretation -- it's like poetry :) |
| 20:08.33 | Patlabor221 | and apernatly the "busted" |
| 20:08.55 | Patlabor221 | yeah you busted it cap |
| 20:09.12 | prot-work | hehe |
| 20:09.19 | Patlabor221 | it does nothing like it used to |
| 20:09.23 | prot-work | so i deickify, then you can debustify |
| 20:09.34 | fiberchunks | i sense a pattern :) |
| 20:09.45 | Patlabor221 | I mean you took out like the basic function of it |
| 20:09.55 | michaelh2 | "allready" |
| 20:10.00 | michaelh2 | :) |
| 20:10.01 | prot-work | i did? :) |
| 20:10.07 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:10.13 | prot-work | whoops :) |
| 20:10.14 | Patlabor221 | it never sets anything in the info now |
| 20:10.19 | michaelh2 | "You have allready registere" |
| 20:10.34 | michaelh2 | d |
| 20:10.57 | prot-work | michaelh2: uf, must be a speeling mistake i didn't catch |
| 20:11.20 | Chestal | where's CIA? I just committed |
| 20:11.30 | michaelh2 | The Man is down? hmmmm |
| 20:11.34 | prot-work | Chestal: it flooded off |
| 20:11.49 | Chestal | prot: guess what I just got: mv: cannot move `/tmp/1503939826-bzflag' to `/tmp/lastlog-bzflag': Operation not permitted |
| 20:11.53 | fiberchunks | down with the man! |
| 20:11.58 | prot-work | Chestal: gr |
| 20:14.03 | michaelh2 | Time to add some more stuff to my massive switch statements |
| 20:14.30 | Patlabor221 | ahhh I see you changed it to a bitset |
| 20:14.49 | Patlabor221 | and removed the clears |
| 20:14.55 | Patlabor221 | but also removed the set |
| 20:14.56 | michaelh2 | are you guys going to be hacking on the client any time in the near future? |
| 20:15.07 | Patlabor221 | after g2 I asume |
| 20:15.11 | prot-work | Patlabor221: did i not actually bust it? |
| 20:16.44 | Chestal | I'm innocent, I'm sure :-) |
| 20:16.46 | Patlabor221 | no you busted it |
| 20:16.46 | Nidhoggr | cia got flooded off earlier. |
| 20:16.50 | Patlabor221 | is this vaild |
| 20:16.51 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.51 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.06 | Patlabor221 | you took out too much when you make it a bitset, I see how you busted it. |
| 20:17.31 | Chestal | no, the btset was added later |
| 20:17.45 | Chestal | the first CVS version did not have any more functionality in readgroup |
| 20:17.46 | Patlabor221 | oh, well then cap just plain busted it |
| 20:17.54 | Chestal | whatever, jsut fix it :-) |
| 20:18.08 | Patlabor221 | I did, I'm looking for the spelling error now |
| 20:19.00 | Patlabor221 | gahhh who shanked me, make me update |
| 20:19.05 | michaelh2 | sure now.. go and modify the same section my patch worked on ..... sniff.......... |
| 20:19.24 | michaelh2 | 1 of my chunks failed ......... sobbbbb |
| 20:19.45 | Patlabor221 | ohh I'm sure it's all difrent now :) |
| 20:19.57 | michaelh2 | well not really.. just a few lines :) |
| 20:19.58 | Patlabor221 | mv: cannot move `/tmp/1343257013-bzflag' to `/tmp/lastlog-bzflag': Operation not permitted |
| 20:20.04 | Patlabor221 | is that normal when commiting? |
| 20:20.14 | prot-work | Patlabor221: i'm working on it |
| 20:20.21 | Patlabor221 | I just commited |
| 20:20.29 | JBDiGriz | michaelh2: Make sure your chunks get enough fiber! |
| 20:20.30 | Patlabor221 | you mean the spelling thing your working on? |
| 20:20.33 | larsl | Has anyone tested my automake1.4-patch? It works for building, but I'm not sure if it installs everything to correct directories. |
| 20:20.42 | prot-work | Patlabor221: i mean on that error during commit |
| 20:22.34 | prot-work | its got some logic to make it only send one message when you commit |
| 20:22.45 | prot-work | since cvs calls the loginfo script once for each file |
| 20:22.58 | michaelh2 | naaaa.. I'm just adding your various commands to my admin by keys thingee |
| 20:23.09 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 20:23.30 | Patlabor221 | well what about the calls to sendmessage? can the text message be broken up into 2 parts? is that valid? |
| 20:24.04 | michaelh2 | I got that mv error tooo |
| 20:24.07 | michaelh2 | onetime |
| 20:24.08 | Chestal | two parts? that above is only one string literal, maed up of two "..."-sequences whcih get concatenated automatically by the compiler |
| 20:24.43 | Patlabor221 | ok just never seen it done that way before |
| 20:25.23 | Chestal | you learn something new every day :-) |
| 20:25.32 | Patlabor221 | allways |
| 20:25.34 | Chestal | especially in the vast realms of C++ |
| 20:25.47 | prot-work | ok, i think i've really solved it now |
| 20:25.54 | prot-work | shouldn't get that error on cvs commit anymore |
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| 20:26.44 | Chestal | is this intended that a member of group x can make anyone else a member of that group, too? |
| 20:27.11 | michaelh2 | sounds great! .. :) |
| 20:27.18 | Chestal | ah, hmm, only with setperms |
| 20:27.25 | michaelh2 | come join the group! |
| 20:27.26 | michaelh2 | :) |
| 20:28.06 | Chestal | btw., I checked for showothers for /showgroup <callsign>, hope that is as intended |
| 20:28.29 | Chestal | another observation: /flaghistory is not allowed by default now |
| 20:28.52 | Patlabor221 | oooo, let me add that to the default |
| 20:29.12 | Chestal | not that I ever use that command |
| 20:29.22 | Patlabor221 | it's suposed to be the same that you normaly get |
| 20:30.05 | michaelh2 | and report |
| 20:30.25 | michaelh2 | and /report |
| 20:30.26 | Patlabor221 | I don't think report checks a permision, it's everyone |
| 20:30.41 | Patlabor221 | yeah it didn't change |
| 20:30.46 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.58 | michaelh2 | ah so |
| 20:35.22 | prot-work | if (strncmp(message + 1, "showgroups", strlen("showgroups")) == 0) ... |
| 20:36.06 | Patlabor221 | kept me from counting when I changed spelling errors |
| 20:37.02 | prot-work | ->lazy :) |
| 20:37.57 | Patlabor221 | I prefer "robust" |
| 20:38.42 | Patlabor221 | it realy shoudl be sent in as an arglist to the command parser |
| 20:40.15 | Chestal | will all be redone nicely in a later version, and then we'll fonally split bzfs into a dozen parts or so |
| 20:42.12 | prot-work | yeah...nice system where modules can register a command+callback with the main loop, controlled via a central ACL-type system....oooo |
| 20:42.19 | Chestal | should we use some braindead password obfuscation? |
| 20:42.35 | Chestal | the power of rot13 could be applied :-) |
| 20:42.48 | Patlabor221 | have at it |
| 20:42.49 | prot-work | Chestal: i don't really see any reason |
| 20:42.59 | prot-work | this isn't meant to be a super-secret password locally |
| 20:43.11 | Patlabor221 | would prevent admins from reseting password |
| 20:43.23 | prot-work | just like the current system has the password viewable in 'ps' |
| 20:43.28 | Chestal | yes, not super sdecret, but peopel migh tbe dumb and use passwords they use elsewhere, and I'd rather not see them when I don't want to |
| 20:43.46 | Patlabor221 | embrace the evil chestal |
| 20:43.50 | prot-work | rot13 works for me :) |
| 20:43.59 | Chestal | of course, we also see this with -d -d in the server output for each message |
| 20:50.59 | Chestal | maybe permisson to do /countdown when -timemanual is used should be removed now and handled via the permissons only |
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| 21:09.59 | doughecka | greetings |
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| 21:20.28 | prot-work | hmm |
| 21:20.34 | prot-work | did lars commit the automake-1.4 patch? |
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| 21:32.47 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Bugs 728598 (Solaris and recvfrom(), what type is the sixth parameter?): Status->'Closed' Resolution->'Fixed' |
| 21:32.48 | CIA | fixed in latest CVS |
| 21:37.51 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Patches 704236 (Altimeter to 1000): |
| 21:37.52 | CIA | looks like a proper patch to me |
| 21:37.53 | CIA | the altimeter isn't really used by anyone, and as such is UI |
| 21:37.54 | CIA | fluff. It would be nice to have it go to 1000, but can you |
| 21:37.55 | CIA | find a method of doing this that doesn't expand the memory |
| 21:37.56 | CIA | requirements of the altimeter by 1000%? As-is, this patch |
| 21:37.57 | CIA | just isn't gonna make it, due to the overhead it introduces. |
| 21:37.58 | CIA | I'd suggest looking into splitting it into multiple labels & |
| 21:37.59 | CIA | combining them to get the full number, rather than having a |
| 21:37.59 | doughecka | boom, floooood |
| 21:38.00 | CIA | unique label for each number. |
| 21:38.06 | doughecka | :_) |
| 21:38.14 | Patlabor221 | sud |
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| 21:40.55 | prot-work | soo |
| 21:41.03 | prot-work | should i officially reject the RCAM patch? =} |
| 21:42.31 | Patlabor221 | can you put it in a "wanker" section? |
| 21:42.43 | prot-work | we don't have a wanker section yet |
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| 21:43.01 | Patlabor221 | and you call ME lazy |
| 21:43.05 | fiberchunks | yay! my movie players are working (mental note, helps to put in media if you wanna watch a flick) |
| 21:43.12 | prot-work | tim hasn't given me admin on the site :P |
| 21:43.20 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:43.25 | prot-work | i should make him do that |
| 21:43.29 | Patlabor221 | hack it |
| 21:43.32 | prot-work | hah |
| 21:43.46 | Patlabor221 | can't be THAT hard |
| 21:44.31 | Patlabor221 | yeah it's rather coo |
| 21:44.40 | prot-work | good selection |
| 21:46.17 | prot-work | hmm |
| 21:46.50 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Patches 543917 (HUD crosshairs): Status->'Closed' Resolution->'Rejected' |
| 21:46.52 | doughecka | prot-work's powerfull "hmm" |
| 21:48.04 | doughecka | on the mac? |
| 21:48.31 | sussudio | yum. split pea soup. |
| 21:48.34 | Patlabor221 | I realy want to use this for CTF bases |
| 21:48.35 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/e8cretesupport_blue.jpg |
| 21:49.31 | prot-work | hmm |
| 21:49.59 | prot-work | Patlabor221: what if you rotated it 90 degrees and made that the texture for the walls of CTF bases, with the team color instead of blue? |
| 21:50.06 | prot-work | (walls when the bases are elevated) |
| 21:50.16 | Patlabor221 | tis what I was just pondering |
| 21:50.35 | Patlabor221 | there is also |
| 21:50.35 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/e8support04_blue.jpg |
| 21:50.48 | prot-work | 'cause in your own language, that would be keen |
| 21:51.10 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:51.18 | Patlabor221 | I am also thinking of changing the porter to use this |
| 21:51.19 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/e8wrntrim.jpg |
| 21:51.57 | prot-work | the trim is good |
| 21:52.01 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:52.07 | Patlabor221 | have to change the maping tho |
| 21:52.12 | prot-work | although it might be best applied as a separate texture on top |
| 21:52.23 | Patlabor221 | also pondering that as well |
| 21:52.38 | prot-work | so you draw the caution texture repeated, then a trim on the edges |
| 21:52.47 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:52.52 | prot-work | i like the first cretesupport better for base edges |
| 21:53.18 | Patlabor221 | tho the current porter does not repeat the current caution texture correctly |
| 21:53.22 | Patlabor221 | it gets streched |
| 21:55.21 | Patlabor221 | but making the base sides like that would get away from the current "brick" look |
| 21:55.57 | Patlabor221 | ahh good he has a set of red and blue painted "crete" textureures that can be used for base tops |
| 21:56.47 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/e8crete_blue.jpg |
| 21:56.59 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/e8creteold_blue.jpg |
| 21:57.54 | Patlabor221 | tad dark, but this looks good for walls |
| 21:57.55 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/rbrick.jpg |
| 22:01.59 | fiberchunks | liked your old bricks better |
| 22:02.15 | Patlabor221 | they didn't repeat well |
| 22:02.17 | fiberchunks | crete's good though |
| 22:02.18 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 22:02.43 | Patlabor221 | I don't know if Tim would go for a change from brik to something else tho |
| 22:04.02 | fiberchunks | riveted steel would be cool -- with rust spots all over the place |
| 22:04.09 | Patlabor221 | I have that |
| 22:04.14 | Patlabor221 | but it would not repeat well |
| 22:04.20 | Patlabor221 | I have an "IDEA" tho |
| 22:04.59 | fiberchunks | :sh |
| 22:05.03 | fiberchunks | whoops |
| 22:06.47 | fiberchunks | whaz that? |
| 22:09.40 | Patlabor221 | multiple passes, multiple textures, stuff like that |
| 22:09.57 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 22:10.58 | fiberchunks | hrm -- do i have ssh on bakadigital.com or just asgard.bakadigital.com ? |
| 22:11.52 | fiberchunks | nm, just asgard |
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| 22:12.57 | Patlabor221 | just plain "bakadgital.com" is a windows server |
| 22:13.07 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 22:13.19 | Patlabor221 | it hosts some other sites, and the mailserver |
| 22:13.37 | fiberchunks | or at least, this image -- haven't shrunk the others yet |
| 22:14.10 | Patlabor221 | what is a world box, a PolyWallSceneNode? |
| 22:14.24 | Patlabor221 | just make a fibercununks folder on asgard |
| 22:15.08 | fiberchunks | heeeee, fibercununks! :) |
| 22:19.33 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I can't seem to find where the texture scale is calutlated for the walls |
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| 22:24.26 | michaelh2 | I've gotten most of the new command into my admin by keys thingee |
| 22:24.53 | michaelh2 | and it checks for the other message like the "you are now admin!" :) |
| 22:25.14 | michaelh2 | you can choose who to add to a group, remove from a group w/ the keys :) |
| 22:26.32 | michaelh2 | my code does look like switch city though....... seems to work :) |
| 22:27.56 | fiberchunks | bzflag old school coding style funk :) |
| 22:28.32 | michaelh2 | I like it better than else if .. |
| 22:28.52 | michaelh2 | though I suppose else if doesn't have the fall through, default case junk |
| 22:29.29 | michaelh2 | but 30 else if's would not be cool |
| 22:31.24 | fiberchunks | heh |
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| 22:44.12 | Mayhem | ~ducati6 |
| 22:48.34 | Patlabor221 | hows this look |
| 22:48.34 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/moretex.jpg |
| 22:49.26 | fiberchunks | just the flag, or the whole scene? |
| 22:49.50 | Patlabor221 | the flag, the ground, the pyramid, and the boxes |
| 22:50.18 | prot-work | i like the pyramid |
| 22:50.21 | prot-work | boxes have a crap texture |
| 22:50.28 | prot-work | ground needs to lose the stipple |
| 22:50.39 | prot-work | texturing the flag really brings out how crappy the waving motion is :) |
| 22:50.58 | fiberchunks | agree with prot -- the pyramid's nice -- the boxes are hrm, and the flag is hrm as well -- I like the ground however |
| 22:51.07 | fiberchunks | by the way, how did you manage to kill yourself ;) |
| 22:51.22 | Patlabor221 | with a higher res texture, the boxes need there texture scale increased |
| 22:51.29 | Patlabor221 | I'm trying to get to taht |
| 22:51.39 | Patlabor221 | and what do you mean by stiple? the lines? |
| 22:51.48 | prot-work | you know what a stipple is, right? |
| 22:52.00 | Patlabor221 | in real drawing |
| 22:52.20 | prot-work | stipple = pixel mask |
| 22:52.50 | Patlabor221 | where is it being masked? |
| 22:52.58 | prot-work | at least it looks like there are black pixels spread throughout the ground like a stipple applied to the polygon - not sure it actually *is* a stipple, could be a filtering artifact |
| 22:54.20 | Patlabor221 | I don't see any, it could be jpeg crap |
| 22:54.30 | Patlabor221 | or are you scaling the image? |
| 22:54.40 | Mayhem | I think the ground looks good... not exactly like grass but interesting |
| 22:54.47 | prot-work | i don't think so, saw the same in the png |
| 22:54.50 | prot-work | and no scaling of the image |
| 22:57.06 | prot-work | apparently its nothing, just an impression that scanlime & i got |
| 22:57.19 | prot-work | when i blow up the image i don't see it |
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| 22:59.57 | Patlabor221 | cap do you know where the texture scale is calced for the boxes? |
| 23:00.25 | prot-work | not off the top of my noggin |
| 23:00.27 | prot-work | i can look when i get home |
| 23:00.42 | Patlabor221 | k, jus I dug around and didn't see where |
| 23:04.28 | Patlabor221 | cus I don't think the wall texture is bad, it's just too small it looks better close http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/G1/ART/walclose.jpg |
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| 23:06.33 | bzgirl | hello |
| 23:07.26 | Mayhem | hiya. your ctf server is popular tonight. |
| 23:07.53 | bzgirl | oh i hadnt looked, just got home |
| 23:08.49 | Patlabor221 | hola |
| 23:08.57 | bzgirl | hi Patlabor221 |
| 23:09.11 | Patlabor221 | como estas usted? |
| 23:09.25 | bzgirl | tres bein |
| 23:09.40 | prot-work | i think i'm gonna go home now |
| 23:10.29 | Patlabor221 | I'm gonna yell at gimp some more |
| 23:11.54 | bzgirl | i like gimp! |
| 23:12.18 | Patlabor221 | It crashes a LOT |
| 23:12.40 | bzgirl | really? wow, win32 gimp or your leenox? |
| 23:12.47 | sussudio | gimp = mpig |
| 23:12.57 | Patlabor221 | windows |
| 23:13.26 | Mayhem | say no more... |
| 23:13.40 | Patlabor221 | I just use it for conversions, it's not bad, but it realy dosn't stand up to photoshop |
| 23:13.46 | fiberchunks | that's because it senses that it isn't on the 'preferred development platform' :) |
| 23:14.06 | Patlabor221 | it's wierd it's allways in the FileIO sub apps |
| 23:14.15 | Patlabor221 | those should not even use GTK |
| 23:14.17 | Mayhem | shows what happens when you put a stable program on an unstable system :) |
| 23:14.20 | Patlabor221 | I know GTK is undable |
| 23:14.30 | Patlabor221 | photoshop dosn't crash :) |
| 23:14.55 | Patlabor221 | I should just bite teh buttlet and make a RGB import/export plugin for it. |
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| 23:15.01 | bzgirl | image magick is better for conversions io think, at least batch conversions |
| 23:15.05 | michaelh2 | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/download.php?group_id=3248&atid=303248&file_id=52219&aid=740236 |
| 23:15.05 | Mayhem | I guess photoshop has worked around the crashes... |
| 23:15.11 | CIA | michaelh20 changed Patches 740236 (nifty admin by keys patch): Summary->'nifty admin by keys patch' |
| 23:15.12 | CIA | added all of the latest commands -- detects "admin" mode |
| 23:15.13 | CIA | and gives the user ability to use all the commands -- not |
| 23:15.14 | CIA | smart yet. |
| 23:15.24 | michaelh2 | heh |
| 23:15.44 | michaelh2 | I guess I don't have to say anything |
| 23:15.54 | fiberchunks | hrm, seems emerge -S <foo> has issues ...... |
| 23:16.01 | fiberchunks | with portage 2.0.48 |
| 23:16.18 | Patlabor221 | well thats enough Artage for today |
| 23:16.29 | fiberchunks | damned wrong channel |
| 23:16.29 | bzgirl | michaelh2: this patch will work against current cvs? |
| 23:16.33 | michaelh2 | yes |
| 23:16.50 | michaelh2 | and will work with the current server AFAIK |
| 23:16.54 | Patlabor221 | he updated it to work with the new andim fucntions and the new /register stuff |
| 23:17.28 | michaelh2 | still should work with the older server too, just it throws bunch more commands into the list |
| 23:17.51 | michaelh2 | should be able to detect the version of server I suppose..... |
| 23:18.01 | Patlabor221 | well with the server shell exploit everyone should update |
| 23:18.52 | michaelh2 | what does that allow them to do? |
| 23:19.06 | bzgirl | to gain a shell on the server |
| 23:19.11 | fiberchunks | oi |
| 23:19.12 | michaelh2 | woah |
| 23:19.14 | bzgirl | yeah |
| 23:19.26 | michaelh2 | how the heck do they manage that? |
| 23:19.50 | JBDiGriz | I don't think that was ever demonstrated, but they did shut down server access. |
| 23:19.54 | fiberchunks | yeah, i'd like to know that as well |
| 23:19.55 | bzgirl | im not sure it was actually done though, i didnt really hear about it |
| 23:20.22 | Patlabor221 | a buffer overflow IIRC |
| 23:20.31 | michaelh2 | we've got some many tons of char buffers floating around :) |
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| 23:21.28 | Patlabor221 | it's just the ones that can be filled with info from a client that need protection |
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| 23:45.15 | Nidhoggr | re |
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| 23:58.03 | captain_proton | haha |
| 23:58.16 | captain_proton | super-appropriate topic entry in #commits : "I love work, I can watch it for hours" |
