| 00:05.40 | creeperz | Back |
| 00:05.45 | creeperz | Good dinner |
| 00:10.09 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 00:10.14 | Noodleman | heh |
| 00:10.49 | Patlabor221 | hmmm now to decide, work on code, or watch the new Patlabor movie |
| 00:13.26 | Noodleman | code AND watch the movie |
| 00:13.30 | Noodleman | i've done it :-) |
| 00:13.36 | Patlabor221 | as have I |
| 00:13.46 | Patlabor221 | wwould involve moving the laptop |
| 00:14.37 | Noodleman | ...laptop...too...heeeaaaAAAAVVVYYYY! |
| 00:14.45 | Patlabor221 | it is |
| 00:14.57 | Patlabor221 | and there are wires involved |
| 00:15.01 | Noodleman | 8086 luggable? |
| 00:15.11 | Patlabor221 | no like a 10lb dell insperon |
| 00:15.14 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 00:15.15 | Patlabor221 | things a beast |
| 00:15.30 | Patlabor221 | but it does have that nice 15.1" ttf |
| 00:15.44 | Noodleman | i've got a 10 lb old compaq presario |
| 00:15.48 | Noodleman | with wi-fi |
| 00:15.54 | Patlabor221 | oooooo |
| 00:15.59 | Patlabor221 | this is just a P3 600 |
| 00:16.00 | Noodleman | so, no wires involved :-) |
| 00:16.04 | Patlabor221 | used to be a celly 333 |
| 00:16.15 | Noodleman | this is a 333 meg k6-2 |
| 00:16.18 | Patlabor221 | I have pondered wireless |
| 00:16.26 | Patlabor221 | but I just ran a cable to the TV |
| 00:16.28 | Noodleman | with 32 megs of ram |
| 00:16.32 | Noodleman | fear the power! |
| 00:16.45 | Patlabor221 | for the laptop and the 3 net capable consoles |
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| 00:17.45 | Patlabor221 | I would like to put a little durron in the entertainment center as well |
| 00:17.55 | [STC]_creeperz | Pat: How do I render using MilkShape? |
| 00:18.06 | Patlabor221 | it's not a renderer it just a modeler |
| 00:18.09 | Patlabor221 | it's for games |
| 00:18.13 | Patlabor221 | not presentations |
| 00:18.16 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
| 00:18.25 | [STC]_creeperz | So I can't make still images? |
| 00:18.27 | Patlabor221 | you could takea screen shot |
| 00:18.32 | [STC]_creeperz | Ah |
| 00:18.34 | Patlabor221 | the app can not save images |
| 00:18.34 | [STC]_creeperz | :-/ |
| 00:18.39 | Patlabor221 | it's not made to |
| 00:18.40 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh well |
| 00:18.44 | [STC]_creeperz | Ok |
| 00:19.12 | [STC]_creeperz | I'm going to sell it for $2 on TurboSquid :-) |
| 00:19.17 | [STC]_creeperz | It's crap, but it's ok |
| 00:19.18 | [STC]_creeperz | :-/ |
| 00:19.25 | Patlabor221 | show me |
| 00:19.35 | [STC]_creeperz | A screenie? |
| 00:19.42 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 00:19.48 | [STC]_creeperz | DCC? |
| 00:20.14 | Patlabor221 | sure if you have no place to host it. |
| 00:20.26 | [STC]_creeperz | Not ATM, no |
| 00:20.59 | [STC]_creeperz | It's a ramp type thing :-) |
| 00:21.06 | Patlabor221 | a wedge? |
| 00:21.08 | [STC]_creeperz | I can get at least a buck out of it :-) |
| 00:21.11 | [STC]_creeperz | Sorta |
| 00:21.12 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea |
| 00:21.25 | Patlabor221 | you can only get money if people buy it |
| 00:21.27 | [STC]_creeperz | I should just free it, huh? |
| 00:21.31 | [STC]_creeperz | I know |
| 00:21.47 | [STC]_creeperz | Ok, it's for free! |
| 00:21.51 | Patlabor221 | if it's a wedge, then I'm thinkin most people will just make one |
| 00:21.59 | [STC]_creeperz | Heh |
| 00:23.21 | Patlabor221 | I should texture up the gnome and put it up there |
| 00:24.50 | Patlabor221 | don't think it fits into screamers |
| 00:24.51 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/Screamers/Damnit.png |
| 00:25.57 | [STC]_creeperz | That looks awesome!! |
| 00:26.03 | Patlabor221 | well it was suposed to be a tank |
| 00:26.10 | [STC]_creeperz | Heh |
| 00:26.13 | [STC]_creeperz | It's fine! |
| 00:26.20 | Patlabor221 | it's not a tank |
| 00:26.26 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 00:26.29 | [STC]_creeperz | I'll have it |
| 00:26.34 | Patlabor221 | it's an orbtal re-entry vehicle |
| 00:26.44 | [STC]_creeperz | Heh |
| 00:27.11 | [STC]_creeperz | Sell it on TurboSquid! |
| 00:27.16 | [STC]_creeperz | I would! |
| 00:27.19 | [STC]_creeperz | Cheap, though |
| 00:27.26 | Patlabor221 | why? |
| 00:27.33 | [STC]_creeperz | It looks awesome |
| 00:27.40 | Patlabor221 | why cheap tho? |
| 00:27.49 | [STC]_creeperz | No idea |
| 00:27.59 | [STC]_creeperz | My friend needs to use my computer |
| 00:28.01 | [STC]_creeperz | BRB |
| 00:29.57 | Patlabor221 | now this I should texture :) http://www.artemisgames.com/Hover1.jpg |
| 00:30.39 | [STC]_creeperz | Heh |
| 00:30.40 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 00:30.43 | [STC]_creeperz | Looks cool! |
| 00:30.54 | Patlabor221 | and this http://www.artemisgames.com/MiniTank.jpg |
| 00:31.22 | [STC]_creeperz | YES! |
| 00:31.24 | [STC]_creeperz | YEA!! |
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| 00:33.31 | Patlabor221 | god cap, remember this ? http://www.artemisgames.com/image154.jpg |
| 00:41.49 | Patlabor221 | now tell me this isn't a munchkin models? http://www.turbosquid.com/HTMLClient/FullPreview/FullPreview.cfm/ID/189669/Action/FullPreview |
| 00:44.12 | captain_proton | hm i can't load that image |
| 00:44.18 | captain_proton | very munchkiny |
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| 00:46.01 | Patlabor221 | I wonder if people buy that crap? |
| 00:46.12 | Patlabor221 | cus hell I could be rich |
| 00:46.13 | michaelh2 | lars -- ran your little patch thingee, seems to work ok.. curious, there's no way to tell a difference between a file and a pipe command? |
| 00:47.03 | larsl | michaelh2: What kind of "command" do you mean? |
| 00:47.35 | michaelh2 | dunno about windows but like 'popupa_message_super_duper -messagehere" |
| 00:47.41 | michaelh2 | vs. myfile.txt |
| 00:48.11 | michaelh2 | I wouldn't think there would be |
| 00:48.49 | larsl | Since a file name can contain any possible characters, I don't think you could tell the difference. |
| 00:49.07 | larsl | Did you run it on Windows? |
| 00:49.22 | michaelh2 | I tried to output my stuff to the dos command more -- which I was surprised existed actually |
| 00:49.32 | michaelh2 | and I also got a file called "more" :) |
| 00:49.33 | michaelh2 | heh |
| 00:49.38 | michaelh2 | yes |
| 00:49.43 | Patlabor221 | of course more exists |
| 00:49.59 | michaelh2 | is there *anything* interesting in the msdos world? |
| 00:50.02 | larsl | You got output in a file when you only used -reportpipe ? |
| 00:50.08 | michaelh2 | no |
| 00:50.14 | michaelh2 | I just passed it more |
| 00:50.17 | michaelh2 | "more" |
| 00:50.20 | captain_proton | ohh Patlabor221 |
| 00:50.26 | Patlabor221 | jess |
| 00:50.28 | captain_proton | thats a good lookin' drawing there |
| 00:50.33 | larsl | Ah, as a filename. |
| 00:50.34 | Patlabor221 | not mine man |
| 00:50.37 | Patlabor221 | you reember who? |
| 00:50.43 | michaelh2 | although actually it did spit it out to stdout too :) |
| 00:50.45 | captain_proton | nope |
| 00:50.47 | michaelh2 | perhaps it did work |
| 00:50.49 | captain_proton | doug? |
| 00:50.54 | Patlabor221 | not quite |
| 00:51.05 | Patlabor221 | worse then doug |
| 00:51.15 | captain_proton | whom? |
| 00:51.18 | Patlabor221 | hoda |
| 00:51.31 | captain_proton | ohhh yeah hahahahahaha |
| 00:51.33 | larsl | Wouldn't more just echo it to stdout if it was less than a page? |
| 00:51.45 | michaelh2 | I guess so, so I think it did pipe it |
| 00:51.56 | larsl | Nice. |
| 00:51.59 | larsl | Thanks for testing. |
| 00:52.08 | Patlabor221 | should put "no we won't help you with your crapy game" back in the topic :) |
| 00:52.22 | michaelh2 | There's some warning in msdev about it causing hangups with non-command prompt based applications |
| 00:52.29 | michaelh2 | popen et al that is |
| 00:52.38 | larsl | I suppose it would. |
| 00:52.59 | Patlabor221 | yeah most windows apps ether take a file as a command line, or just ignore it |
| 00:53.26 | *** topic/#bzflag by captain_proton -> Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 || http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ (temporarily down, ETA in May) | http://www.bezee.de/serverinfo.php Works for a temp solution | no, we will not help with your crappy game |
| 00:53.41 | michaelh2 | Note The _popen function returns an invalid file handle, if used in a Windows program, that will cause the program to hang indefinitely. _popen works properly in a Console application. To create a Windows application that redirects input and output, read the section "Creating a Child Process with Redirected Input and Output" in the Win32 SDK. |
| 00:53.57 | michaelh2 | I don't know if that means NULL or what? :) |
| 00:54.17 | michaelh2 | *warning* random gibberish may occur if you don't follow our instructions |
| 00:54.22 | larsl | Probably. I think I check for NULL, though. |
| 00:54.30 | michaelh2 | yes you do |
| 00:54.31 | larsl | Anyway, bzfs is a console program. |
| 00:54.39 | larsl | So no problem there. =) |
| 00:55.45 | michaelh2 | hmm, I guess so :) |
| 00:56.05 | michaelh2 | So maybe I can do something like open a Word document :) |
| 00:56.13 | michaelh2 | something bizarre like that |
| 00:56.52 | Patlabor221 | time to go watch the patlabor movie :) |
| 00:56.54 | larsl | I wonder why they don't allow _popen in GUI programs. As long as you popen a console program, it should be OK - you would just get a file handle for the program's stdin or stdout. |
| 00:57.44 | michaelh2 | I think it's as you say -- the opening end has to be in a "Console" app |
| 00:58.00 | michaelh2 | but with Microsquash's documentation, who's to say |
| 00:58.44 | michaelh2 | I'm not sure about just how windows apps even use stdin and out :) |
| 00:59.14 | larsl | I've never programmed in Windows, but I've heard rumours that they don't have the standard streams. |
| 00:59.41 | michaelh2 | or perhaps just that they're lobotomized |
| 01:00.00 | michaelh2 | that's usually how it works -- it's *sort of* there |
| 01:00.41 | larsl | That would probably make more sense - still complying with the C standard, the streams just return error messages when you try to use them. |
| 01:02.03 | michaelh2 | not that I know for sure anyway |
| 01:05.05 | michaelh2 | when it's a file for sure, it's spitting it out to stdout |
| 01:05.39 | michaelh2 | I guess if the pipe doesn't go somewhere it just defaults to stdout? |
| 01:05.40 | larsl | Really? |
| 01:05.57 | larsl | Oh, I thought you meant when you used -reportfile. |
| 01:06.13 | michaelh2 | that's what I meant |
| 01:06.25 | larsl | Let me check the code. |
| 01:06.42 | michaelh2 | it just prints to the pipe if it's non null |
| 01:06.48 | michaelh2 | reasonable enough |
| 01:07.08 | michaelh2 | I imagine microsoft just basically never returns a null pipe |
| 01:08.09 | larsl | Yes, it prints to a file if -reportfile is given, to the pipe if -reportpipe is given and the pipe is opened OK, and it always prints to stdout. |
| 01:08.20 | michaelh2 | ohhhhh |
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| 01:09.27 | michaelh2 | wierd |
| 01:09.29 | larsl | Maybe I should remove the stdout output and disable the command if neither -reportfile or -reportpipe is given? People might not like to get spammed if they don't want the reports. |
| 01:09.48 | michaelh2 | I am using -reportfile ....... and getting stdout stuff :) |
| 01:10.03 | larsl | Yes, it always prints to stdout. |
| 01:11.59 | michaelh2 | I guess so :) |
| 01:12.36 | michaelh2 | which I guess makes sense |
| 01:13.08 | michaelh2 | people can close their fstreams now |
| 01:13.13 | michaelh2 | at least for windows |
| 01:13.16 | larsl | Nice. |
| 01:13.24 | larsl | I think that it always worked on UNIX. |
| 01:13.46 | michaelh2 | It was that inline statement someone suggested on the sf.net boards |
| 01:13.55 | michaelh2 | that fixed it |
| 01:14.09 | larsl | Yes, inline functions are usually nicer than macros. |
| 01:16.25 | michaelh2 | how do I make a *ding* :) |
| 01:16.37 | michaelh2 | isn't that char() something |
| 01:16.50 | larsl | Print the bell code (ASCII 007 I think). |
| 01:17.14 | michaelh2 | which is plain old 7 right? |
| 01:17.23 | larsl | Yeah. =) |
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| 01:17.52 | larsl | Well, it's char(7), not '7'. |
| 01:20.32 | michaelh2 | duh |
| 01:20.33 | michaelh2 | :) |
| 01:21.05 | michaelh2 | int main(int argc, char* argv[]) |
| 01:21.05 | michaelh2 | { |
| 01:21.05 | michaelh2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.05 | michaelh2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.05 | michaelh2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.06 | michaelh2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.08 | michaelh2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.10 | michaelh2 | } |
| 01:21.20 | larsl | Does it *ding* ? |
| 01:21.31 | michaelh2 | well vaguely |
| 01:21.58 | larsl | Does cout<<(char)7 filter away the beep? |
| 01:21.58 | michaelh2 | I suppose I should set it the "release" version :) |
| 01:22.19 | michaelh2 | dunno.. it just was setup to do hello world with a printf |
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| 01:24.55 | michaelh2 | it does ding on /report now :) |
| 01:25.40 | larsl | =) |
| 01:38.43 | michaelh2 | do you think we should add a /punsh player command ? |
| 01:39.04 | michaelh2 | we could like force them to drop their flag, direct a shot right at them, silence them, etc.. :) |
| 01:39.53 | michaelh2 | I suppose perhaps a /silence thing would be cool, server side |
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| 01:44.36 | michaelh2 | sooooooo everytime a person sends a message it is sent to *everyone* ?? |
| 01:44.42 | michaelh2 | by the server ? |
| 01:44.48 | larsl | michaelh2: I think so. |
| 01:44.55 | larsl | I might be wrong. |
| 01:45.37 | michaelh2 | lol.. there's a little potential cheating :) |
| 01:45.48 | bzdoug | uh huh |
| 01:46.04 | michaelh2 | good for you doug.... :) |
| 01:47.14 | michaelh2 | so what do you think .. should I make a "torture" admin function ? |
| 01:47.32 | larsl | And that's probably the most harmless cheat. There are plenty of places where a few line changes can give huge advantages. |
| 01:47.55 | michaelh2 | well it more challenging to improve the game than cheat at it |
| 01:48.11 | larsl | Which is why a lot of people cheat instead. =P |
| 01:48.22 | michaelh2 | Although flying tanks are fun |
| 01:49.00 | bzdoug | they are? |
| 01:49.56 | michaelh2 | Why wouldn't they be? |
| 01:53.14 | michaelh2 | spelling : "Your were banned from this server by %s", player |
| 01:53.45 | larsl | It prints that? |
| 01:54.09 | larsl | I suppose no one who has been banned has bothered to report it. =) |
| 01:54.13 | bzdoug | jumpiits supposed to be "you was banned..."? |
| 01:55.26 | michaelh2 | It's in the code :) |
| 01:55.45 | michaelh2 | I've seen other such spelling |
| 01:57.34 | michaelh2 | banlist isn't saved to file or anything? |
| 01:57.45 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 01:58.50 | michaelh2 | it's using that TimeKeeper stuff again :) |
| 01:59.23 | michaelh2 | the non-real-since-startup time thingee |
| 02:02.10 | michaelh2 | vs. time_t which is the unknown big number thingee |
| 02:03.30 | michaelh2 | I have a new nifty utility which I have called ding |
| 02:03.38 | dougheckaa | Patlabor221: whats the cheap GF FX card you got? |
| 02:03.53 | Patlabor221 | 5200 |
| 02:04.02 | dougheckaa | k |
| 02:04.05 | michaelh2 | perhaps I can put it up on sharware site :) |
| 02:04.11 | dougheckaa | what did ya pay for it? |
| 02:04.24 | Patlabor221 | 0 |
| 02:04.44 | dougheckaa | ok, what did your boss pay for it? |
| 02:05.01 | Patlabor221 | our cost is under 80 |
| 02:05.20 | dougheckaa | cool |
| 02:05.49 | dougheckaa | duel VGA ports or is it one VGA and one DVI? |
| 02:05.59 | Patlabor221 | vga and dvi |
| 02:06.04 | Patlabor221 | but it has an adapter |
| 02:06.22 | dougheckaa | ah |
| 02:06.24 | dougheckaa | sweet |
| 02:07.19 | dougheckaa | 74 is the cheapest on ebay |
| 02:07.22 | dougheckaa | buy it now |
| 02:08.02 | Patlabor221 | that is close to our cost |
| 02:08.09 | dougheckaa | cool |
| 02:08.26 | Patlabor221 | we have 1 left in stock |
| 02:08.34 | dougheckaa | haha |
| 02:09.38 | dougheckaa | plus 10 bucks shipping |
| 02:09.53 | dougheckaa | sheesh, I just got fenders for my car, shipping was 20 bucks |
| 02:09.57 | dougheckaa | each |
| 02:10.09 | dougheckaa | it didnt have a box though |
| 02:10.14 | dougheckaa | just a stamp and address |
| 02:14.28 | Noodleman_ | hey |
| 02:14.33 | Noodleman_ | oops |
| 02:14.36 | dougheckaa | is for horses |
| 02:14.37 | Noodleman_ | wrong channel :-) |
| 02:17.50 | michaelh2 | time to go back to sexchat? |
| 02:17.51 | michaelh2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:18.06 | michaelh2 | or horse_porn ? |
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| 03:27.39 | [STC]_creeperz | Hallo |
| 03:30.25 | patlabor221 | GIR!, ride the split!!! |
| 03:30.45 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 03:31.37 | patlabor221 | so where is a picture of your model? or did you put it on turbo squid? |
| 03:31.45 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
| 03:32.33 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 03:32.39 | [STC]_creeperz | I'm not putting it up :-) |
| 03:32.55 | [STC]_creeperz | But, hey, it's a start |
| 03:33.05 | [STC]_creeperz | :-/ |
| 03:33.08 | patlabor221 | practice is allways good |
| 03:33.30 | [STC]_creeperz | But really, how did you learn to do such good models? |
| 03:33.44 | [STC]_creeperz | Do you draw them out first? Or just do them on the spot? |
| 03:33.44 | patlabor221 | I dono |
| 03:33.52 | patlabor221 | depends |
| 03:33.57 | patlabor221 | the m3 was planed out |
| 03:34.07 | [STC]_creeperz | Drawn out and everything? |
| 03:34.15 | patlabor221 | http://asgard.bakadigital.com/Screamers/imgs/Concept.png |
| 03:34.35 | patlabor221 | the mk4 was just a spur of the moment rehash of it |
| 03:34.45 | [STC]_creeperz | Ah |
| 03:35.00 | [STC]_creeperz | But I have 0% idea on how to properly use a 3D modeler! |
| 03:35.02 | [STC]_creeperz | :-/ |
| 03:35.07 | [STC]_creeperz | There's my problem |
| 03:35.09 | patlabor221 | well that's why you practice |
| 03:35.16 | patlabor221 | and there are tutorials on milkshape |
| 03:35.20 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea |
| 03:35.23 | [STC]_creeperz | Really? |
| 03:35.29 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 03:36.19 | patlabor221 | yup that's a ramp |
| 03:36.21 | [STC]_creeperz | Ahh, I see said the blind man pissin in the wind, it all comin' back to me now |
| 03:36.24 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 03:36.36 | patlabor221 | with 4 degenerate triangles |
| 03:36.46 | [STC]_creeperz | What? |
| 03:36.52 | [STC]_creeperz | 1 box :-) |
| 03:37.11 | patlabor221 | you didn't delete the faces between the verts of one side that you moved down to the other side |
| 03:37.21 | patlabor221 | so there are some infinaly small triangles there |
| 03:37.25 | patlabor221 | those are called degenerate |
| 03:37.30 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
| 03:37.32 | [STC]_creeperz | :-/ |
| 03:37.35 | [STC]_creeperz | Heh |
| 03:37.36 | patlabor221 | those are bad |
| 03:37.59 | [STC]_creeperz | Where are they? |
| 03:38.07 | patlabor221 | you shoudl delete the triangles, and just weld the verts |
| 03:38.17 | [STC]_creeperz | It's just a box |
| 03:38.19 | patlabor221 | on the side that goes down to a point |
| 03:38.24 | [STC]_creeperz | And what are you talking about? |
| 03:38.32 | [STC]_creeperz | To the black? |
| 03:38.35 | patlabor221 | the part of the wedge |
| 03:38.42 | patlabor221 | what is the thinest |
| 03:39.03 | [STC]_creeperz | oh, that rough edge type thing? |
| 03:39.11 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 03:39.19 | [STC]_creeperz | How to destroy? |
| 03:39.35 | patlabor221 | well before you moved one edge down to the other |
| 03:39.48 | patlabor221 | you should have selected the faces that were going to be gone |
| 03:39.52 | patlabor221 | and deleted them |
| 03:40.03 | [STC]_creeperz | Ah |
| 03:40.04 | patlabor221 | then just welded the verts and not moved them |
| 03:40.13 | [STC]_creeperz | I think I got it |
| 03:40.29 | patlabor221 | cus now you have double verst there |
| 03:40.41 | [STC]_creeperz | Ok |
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| 03:41.21 | patlabor221 | I started a "3d programing" forum on BZBB, but it can also be for modeling help |
| 03:41.31 | [STC]_creeperz | Ah |
| 03:41.34 | patlabor221 | so if you want you can post questions there |
| 03:41.43 | patlabor221 | if I'm not around |
| 03:42.06 | *** topic/#bzflag by [STC]_creeperz -> Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 || http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ (temporarily down, ETA in May) | http://www.bezee.de/serverinfo.php Works for a temp solution | http://bzbb.PLACEITHEREPAT.com |
| 03:42.11 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 03:42.34 | patlabor221 | that is a bad URL |
| 03:42.38 | [STC]_creeperz | I know... |
| 03:42.42 | [STC]_creeperz | It says |
| 03:42.49 | [STC]_creeperz | PLACE IT HERE PAT |
| 03:42.53 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 03:42.57 | [STC]_creeperz | I forgot the URL |
| 03:43.05 | *** topic/#bzflag by patlabor221 -> Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 || http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ (temporarily down, ETA in May) | http://www.bezee.de/serverinfo.php Works for a temp solution | "no we will not help you make your crappy game" |
| 03:43.12 | patlabor221 | for bzbb? |
| 03:43.16 | patlabor221 | everyone knows that |
| 03:43.17 | [STC]_creeperz | Yes |
| 03:43.24 | patlabor221 | bzbb.bakadigital.com |
| 03:43.27 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
| 03:43.29 | patlabor221 | bzbb.baflag.org |
| 03:43.31 | [STC]_creeperz | Post it up |
| 03:43.33 | patlabor221 | bzbb.bzflag.net |
| 03:43.34 | patlabor221 | ect... |
| 03:43.49 | [STC]_creeperz | All go to the SAME forum or all different? |
| 03:44.30 | *** topic/#bzflag by patlabor221 -> Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 || http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ (temporarily down, back soon) | bzbb.bzfla.org ( unofical forums) | "no we will not help you make your crappy game" |
| 03:44.47 | patlabor221 | make a new topic in there for your question |
| 03:44.59 | [STC]_creeperz | Nah |
| 03:45.11 | [STC]_creeperz | I'll just stick to the tutorials and such |
| 03:45.18 | *** topic/#bzflag by patlabor221 -> Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 || http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ (temporarily down, back soon) | bzbb.bzflag.org ( unofical forums) | "no we will not help you make your crappy game" |
| 03:45.35 | patlabor221 | god I can't spell |
| 03:45.47 | *** topic/#bzflag by patlabor221 -> Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 || http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ (temporarily down, back soon) | bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) | "no we will not help you make your crappy game" |
| 03:46.03 | [STC]_creeperz | :? |
| 03:46.26 | [STC]_creeperz | Can't spell all that great? |
| 03:46.44 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 03:46.54 | [STC]_creeperz | Get Hooked On Phonics |
| 03:47.05 | patlabor221 | why? I can read just fine |
| 03:47.09 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 03:47.17 | patlabor221 | and I spell things phoneticly far to offten |
| 03:47.25 | patlabor221 | I have too much phonics. |
| 03:47.30 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 03:47.51 | patlabor221 | the english language just follows to many funky rules |
| 03:47.55 | patlabor221 | needs to be more logical |
| 03:48.01 | patlabor221 | and I compress things |
| 03:48.06 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea |
| 03:48.13 | [STC]_creeperz | To |
| 03:48.14 | [STC]_creeperz | Too |
| 03:48.15 | [STC]_creeperz | Two |
| 03:48.28 | patlabor221 | need z lib, not this LZW crap |
| 03:48.39 | [STC]_creeperz | What? |
| 03:49.03 | patlabor221 | lossy vs lossles |
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| 03:53.05 | [STC]_creeperz | How was your day, pat? |
| 03:53.13 | patlabor221 | pasable |
| 03:53.19 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea |
| 03:53.24 | patlabor221 | I got the new patlabor movie |
| 03:53.30 | patlabor221 | so all is good in the end |
| 03:53.30 | [STC]_creeperz | I made my teacher's eye start to twitch |
| 03:53.33 | patlabor221 | was very good |
| 03:53.38 | [STC]_creeperz | Cool |
| 03:53.54 | [STC]_creeperz | ACK! |
| 03:53.58 | [STC]_creeperz | 14 min of wait! |
| 03:54.13 | patlabor221 | umm ok. |
| 03:54.28 | [STC]_creeperz | FilePlanet's stupid tutorials |
| 03:54.39 | patlabor221 | file planet just hosts files |
| 03:54.40 | [STC]_creeperz | On the MilkShape site, ytou go to tutorials |
| 03:54.44 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea |
| 03:54.46 | patlabor221 | they did not make them |
| 03:54.49 | [STC]_creeperz | I know |
| 03:58.54 | creeperz | UUGH! |
| 03:58.59 | creeperz | I'm a loser! |
| 03:59.54 | patlabor221 | ummm ok. |
| 04:00.02 | creeperz | ? |
| 04:00.03 | creeperz | Oh |
| 04:00.09 | creeperz | I forgot to fix my chair |
| 04:02.05 | patlabor221 | again I give a resounding "umm. ok" |
| 04:03.48 | creeperz | This would be a good way to preset a BZFlag world! |
| 04:04.05 | creeperz | Pat: You should make some sort of a converter or something |
| 04:04.19 | creeperz | That turns 3D model files into maps |
| 04:04.31 | patlabor221 | that's not realy easaly doable |
| 04:04.35 | creeperz | Take forever to get all of the extensions right, but it would be all good :-) |
| 04:04.42 | creeperz | I know :-) |
| 04:05.06 | patlabor221 | why not just use the normal editor |
| 04:05.13 | creeperz | No idea |
| 04:05.19 | creeperz | To make it look cool? |
| 04:05.21 | creeperz | :-) |
| 04:05.36 | patlabor221 | in bz it would look nothing like that |
| 04:05.43 | creeperz | Yea |
| 04:05.44 | creeperz | Heh |
| 04:05.58 | patlabor221 | screamers can take anything you can make in there. |
| 04:06.06 | creeperz | Cool |
| 04:26.57 | creeperz | Check this one out! |
| 04:27.24 | patlabor221 | they would be smaller if you saved them as jpeg or png |
| 04:27.30 | patlabor221 | instead of bmp |
| 04:27.33 | creeperz | Yes |
| 04:27.45 | creeperz | But bmp is the closest thing I can get :-/ |
| 04:27.52 | creeperz | GIMP takes a while to start up |
| 04:27.59 | patlabor221 | paint should save out a jpeg |
| 04:28.07 | creeperz | IrfanView takes too long to rename |
| 04:28.18 | creeperz | I didn't use paint |
| 04:28.29 | patlabor221 | what did you use? |
| 04:28.31 | creeperz | It's just a screen shot that auto saves itself |
| 04:29.07 | creeperz | :-) |
| 04:29.11 | patlabor221 | I think you mean molecule not cell |
| 04:29.16 | creeperz | Yes |
| 04:29.29 | creeperz | but cell started with a "c" and would be easier to find |
| 04:29.50 | creeperz | Other than scrolling down through the entire list to get to "m" |
| 04:29.59 | patlabor221 | then put stuff into sub folders |
| 04:30.07 | creeperz | Yea |
| 04:30.48 | creeperz | Look ok? |
| 04:31.19 | patlabor221 | it's 3 geospheres and 2 cylinders |
| 04:31.26 | creeperz | Yea |
| 04:31.33 | creeperz | But it was hard to position them |
| 04:32.17 | patlabor221 | just throwing around prims isn't realy modeling |
| 04:32.29 | creeperz | :-) |
| 04:32.31 | creeperz | It works! |
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| 04:35.09 | blair | z00 |
| 04:35.15 | creeperz | Hi |
| 04:36.35 | blair | sup creep |
| 04:36.46 | creeperz | Nuthin much |
| 04:36.49 | creeperz | Wow |
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| 04:39.17 | nuum | ok, much like the game, this channel sucks. now off to kill some punk tankers. |
| 04:39.29 | creeperz | :-) |
| 04:39.34 | creeperz | Hey, Tim |
| 04:39.41 | creeperz | How's your day going? |
| 05:19.07 | TimRiker | fine fine. hiring people to work with me at ti. ;-) |
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| 06:19.55 | doughecka | greetings |
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| 13:44.32 | larsl | What is the reason for including a *.cxx file in another *.cxx file? |
| 13:46.59 | larsl | The included file isn't even a valid *.cxx file... uggghh. |
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| 15:06.58 | larsl | Hello. |
| 15:10.02 | ak|ra | hi, read the link? |
| 15:18.53 | larsl | Link? |
| 15:19.18 | ak|ra | with ftp behind a firewall .. wasnt it you with the proftpd? .. ah no |
| 15:19.22 | ak|ra | you was proftpd per ssh |
| 15:19.23 | larsl | Ah, yes. |
| 15:19.27 | ak|ra | ok, forget about it |
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| 15:52.47 | doughecka | whew |
| 15:52.50 | doughecka | passed the exam |
| 15:57.15 | doughecka | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 15:57.49 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 15:58.24 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 15:58.38 | larsl | MCP? |
| 15:58.48 | Patlabor221 | Microsoft Certified Peeon. |
| 15:58.54 | doughecka | Microsoft cerftify pimpdaddy |
| 15:59.06 | Patlabor221 | no, it's the first one |
| 15:59.13 | doughecka | oh |
| 16:00.00 | Patlabor221 | MCSE is the GED of the comptuer world. For those who can't get a real degree. |
| 16:00.26 | doughecka | next up is A+ and network+ |
| 16:01.47 | Patlabor221 | out idiot downstairs is MSCE and he dosnt' know WAN from LAN. |
| 16:02.08 | doughecka | I know WAN from LAN |
| 16:02.09 | Patlabor221 | out not out |
| 16:02.21 | Patlabor221 | ohh I"m sure you are smarter then him |
| 16:02.30 | Patlabor221 | but it shows what they let go thur MSCE |
| 16:04.03 | Patlabor221 | flood? |
| 16:04.10 | Patlabor221 | does that mean it's shotgun time? |
| 16:08.08 | doughecka | ooh, now I have access to microsoft's "place of all OSes" |
| 16:09.36 | Patlabor221 | msdn? |
| 16:09.46 | doughecka | hmm |
| 16:09.48 | doughecka | no |
| 16:09.53 | doughecka | simaler though |
| 16:10.00 | Patlabor221 | all OSs, all languages? |
| 16:10.04 | Patlabor221 | in iso format? |
| 16:10.06 | doughecka | yup |
| 16:10.13 | Patlabor221 | yeah same database probably |
| 16:10.16 | doughecka | even win 3.1 and stuff |
| 16:10.18 | doughecka | and DOS! |
| 16:10.19 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 16:10.26 | Patlabor221 | and some dos |
| 16:10.36 | Patlabor221 | msdn has all ms products too |
| 16:10.41 | doughecka | ah |
| 16:10.43 | Patlabor221 | cept games |
| 16:10.44 | doughecka | thats cool |
| 16:10.52 | doughecka | no games? :( |
| 16:11.00 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 16:11.05 | Patlabor221 | just bis aps |
| 16:11.12 | doughecka | how am I supposed to... um... setup my firewall, or... something.. |
| 16:14.05 | doughecka | hmm, only 2 more comptia exams, and 6 more microsoft exams |
| 16:14.50 | Patlabor221 | then you will be very good at taking tests |
| 16:14.58 | Patlabor221 | they should make you actualy fix a computer. |
| 16:15.17 | doughecka | then I go off to take the database exams |
| 16:15.45 | Patlabor221 | are the questions multiple choice? |
| 16:15.51 | doughecka | yea |
| 16:15.54 | Patlabor221 | ha |
| 16:16.17 | Patlabor221 | none of them are "how do I" type questions? |
| 16:16.20 | doughecka | some questions are "choose all that apply" choose two answers and choose one answer |
| 16:16.28 | Patlabor221 | no wonder it makes bakas |
| 16:16.33 | doughecka | lol |
| 16:16.49 | doughecka | like how? |
| 16:16.50 | Patlabor221 | you think a customer is going to come up and ask there question and have 4 answers? |
| 16:17.10 | doughecka | sometimes 6 answers (oooh) |
| 16:17.22 | Patlabor221 | when you have multiple answers there you know one is right, all you have to do is figure out what one they want |
| 16:17.50 | Patlabor221 | it's not realy testing your ability to diagnose problems, realy just your ability to take the test |
| 16:18.29 | Patlabor221 | like if I say "how do I configure iis to change the URL to a virtual dir every day?" |
| 16:18.53 | Patlabor221 | I would think a MCSE could answer that. |
| 16:19.16 | doughecka | likes here an example: Rob wants to store 2.5 gigs of new data on his computer, he has drive one with 400 megs of free space, drive 2 with 2 gigs of unallocated space, and drive 3 with 2 gig NTFS partition and 1 gig unallocated |
| 16:19.30 | doughecka | hmm, I havent gotten into iis or server stuff yet |
| 16:20.20 | Patlabor221 | the real answer is "find out who set up that messed up partition, and make it one big ass NTFS2 drive, then slap him" |
| 16:20.32 | doughecka | indeed |
| 16:20.54 | Patlabor221 | they proalblaby tell you to make a spanned drive don't they? |
| 16:21.23 | doughecka | yup |
| 16:21.32 | doughecka | dynamic drive |
| 16:21.40 | Patlabor221 | it's a LVM |
| 16:21.46 | Patlabor221 | they just don't call it that |
| 16:21.48 | doughecka | yea |
| 16:22.02 | Patlabor221 | who sets up computers with empty drives tho? |
| 16:22.24 | doughecka | well, it was better worded than that |
| 16:22.33 | Patlabor221 | dosn't mater |
| 16:22.47 | doughecka | and each drive had a partition on it |
| 16:22.57 | Patlabor221 | bet nowhere does it say "get partition manager and just fix it up right" |
| 16:23.29 | doughecka | hehe |
| 16:23.37 | doughecka | but they wanted it back up as soon as possible |
| 16:23.38 | Patlabor221 | " tell him he dosn't need 2.5 gigs of pr0n, and go back and get a dohnut" |
| 16:23.47 | doughecka | hmm |
| 16:23.51 | doughecka | that reminds me |
| 16:24.03 | Patlabor221 | need to back up your pr0n? |
| 16:24.14 | doughecka | no.... |
| 16:24.15 | doughecka | lunch |
| 16:24.38 | Patlabor221 | they don't teach that user education is often better then just fixing the imediate problem. |
| 16:26.39 | doughecka | ooh... |
| 16:26.48 | doughecka | As an MCP, you also receive the following benefits: |
| 16:26.53 | doughecka | Logos and a certificate that identify your MCP status to colleagues and clients. |
| 16:27.01 | doughecka | so I get a pin and a paper |
| 16:27.07 | Patlabor221 | heh, so it's a club |
| 16:27.15 | Patlabor221 | do you get merrit badges? |
| 16:27.23 | doughecka | hmm, dunno |
| 16:27.28 | doughecka | :) |
| 16:27.54 | Patlabor221 | cus honestly they don't care if you know anything as long as they get there money, and it promotes MS products. |
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| 16:28.33 | Patlabor221 | why are you doing this again? |
| 16:28.39 | [TeA|TrEE] | huhu |
| 16:28.50 | doughecka | my friend only wants me to get this becuase he wants something to promote to his bosses |
| 16:29.17 | doughecka | and he will problebly have me setup a test linux box, since nobody there knows about it. |
| 16:32.43 | larsl_food | Has anyone else tried atupone's automake/autoconf patch? |
| 16:33.17 | larsl_food | It needs some testing and fixing, but the basics seem to work. |
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| 16:41.36 | Storm | well its lively in here |
| 16:42.22 | Patlabor221 | are we suposed to be dancing or something? |
| 16:42.30 | Storm | nah, just typing :p |
| 16:42.43 | Patlabor221 | about what? |
| 16:43.29 | doughecka | ~poign |
| 16:43.30 | doughecka | ~pign |
| 16:43.33 | doughecka | ~ping |
| 16:43.33 | | pong |
| 16:43.36 | doughecka | huh |
| 16:43.48 | Storm | ummm |
| 16:43.57 | Storm | if u like |
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| 16:44.31 | Storm | lol |
| 16:44.44 | doughecka | dsl dropped |
| 16:44.58 | Patlabor221 | so do it in a private message to ibot then |
| 16:45.04 | Patlabor221 | we don't need to see that |
| 16:45.16 | Storm | :) |
| 16:50.10 | Patlabor221 | so doug how are my textures coming allong? |
| 16:50.55 | doughecka | nicely |
| 16:51.26 | Storm | textures? |
| 16:51.33 | Patlabor221 | textures! |
| 16:51.40 | Storm | 4 wot? |
| 16:51.54 | Patlabor221 | sutff:) |
| 16:51.57 | Storm | lol |
| 16:54.23 | Patlabor221 | doug you still on bethany lane? |
| 16:54.33 | Storm | cya |
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| 16:54.58 | doughecka | um |
| 16:54.58 | doughecka | yea |
| 17:05.37 | Patlabor221 | whoot it fits in the box |
| 17:05.42 | Patlabor221 | sell sorta |
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| 17:06.23 | doughecka | sprta? |
| 17:06.27 | doughecka | bleh! |
| 17:06.30 | doughecka | sorta? |
| 17:06.34 | Patlabor221 | well sorta |
| 17:06.37 | Patlabor221 | yeah sorta |
| 17:06.44 | Patlabor221 | it's techinaly "in" the box |
| 17:06.53 | Patlabor221 | but the box isn't to happy about it |
| 17:06.57 | doughecka | haha |
| 17:16.46 | Patlabor221 | well you will see it when it gets there |
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| 17:19.30 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:19.35 | Noodleman_ | ~insult doughecka |
| 17:19.36 | Noodlebot | thou art pigeon-liver'd and lack gall, doughecka |
| 17:19.46 | Noodleman_ | i rewrote Noodlebot |
| 17:19.50 | doughecka | oh? |
| 17:19.54 | doughecka | whats better/worse? |
| 17:19.59 | Noodleman_ | the code is *much* cleaner now |
| 17:20.03 | doughecka | ah |
| 17:20.30 | Noodleman_ | creeperz and Patlabor221 have been asking for the code |
| 17:20.44 | Noodleman_ | so i figured i'd better clean it up first |
| 17:20.52 | doughecka | thats a good idea |
| 17:21.02 | Patlabor221 | keen |
| 17:21.14 | Patlabor221 | you didn't have to rewrite it |
| 17:21.29 | Patlabor221 | don't tink creeper is going to actualy DO anyting with it |
| 17:21.43 | doughecka | he just wants it to show his friends |
| 17:21.50 | Noodleman_ | by rewriting it i mean overhauling the design of it |
| 17:21.53 | Patlabor221 | and I have looked at BZ code engouth so uglynes dosn't scare me |
| 17:21.57 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 17:22.04 | Patlabor221 | is it slicker now? |
| 17:22.09 | Noodleman_ | yes |
| 17:22.14 | Noodleman_ | much more so |
| 17:22.15 | Patlabor221 | keen |
| 17:22.23 | doughecka | slicker than deer spit on a brass door knob |
| 17:22.41 | Noodleman_ | before i would parse each message for every test |
| 17:22.48 | Noodleman_ | now i do it just once |
| 17:22.49 | Patlabor221 | ick |
| 17:22.53 | Patlabor221 | makes sense |
| 17:22.55 | doughecka | hah |
| 17:23.20 | Noodleman_ | and now it's got... |
| 17:23.31 | Noodleman_ | brace yourself |
| 17:23.31 | Noodleman_ | COMMENTS! |
| 17:23.42 | doughecka | oh? |
| 17:23.43 | Patlabor221 | hell screamers dosn't even have those |
| 17:23.48 | doughecka | haha |
| 17:23.56 | Patlabor221 | well it sorta does |
| 17:24.00 | Patlabor221 | // she's not allowed to actualy get a message on his first frame |
| 17:24.01 | Patlabor221 | return ePRContinue; |
| 17:24.04 | Noodleman_ | they are great if other people are looking at your code |
| 17:24.06 | doughecka | haha |
| 17:24.33 | Noodleman_ | or if you come back to your code after 6 months and say, "what the heck did i do THAT for?" |
| 17:24.57 | Patlabor221 | ohh I do that anyway, even with comments |
| 17:25.02 | Noodleman_ | hehe |
| 17:25.02 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:25.22 | doughecka | or come back a year later and says "whos the idiot that wrote that?" |
| 17:25.30 | doughecka | and then relize it was yourself |
| 17:25.44 | Noodleman_ | hehe |
| 17:26.14 | Noodleman_ | so, you got somewhere i can upload this to so you can get it? |
| 17:26.23 | Noodleman_ | i don't have email right now |
| 17:26.24 | doughecka | baka |
| 17:26.26 | Patlabor221 | slap it on baka |
| 17:26.44 | Noodleman_ | i've got access to asgard, ok? |
| 17:26.47 | Patlabor221 | throw it in /var/www/virtual/asgard/ |
| 17:26.50 | Patlabor221 | you should |
| 17:27.21 | Patlabor221 | you are on the "probably not a cockbite" list |
| 17:27.31 | Noodleman_ | heh |
| 17:30.26 | Noodleman_ | ok, uploaded |
| 17:30.34 | Patlabor221 | your in the filename? |
| 17:30.42 | Noodleman_ | noodlebot.pl |
| 17:31.14 | Patlabor221 | keen |
| 17:31.26 | larsl_food | Patlabor221: Did you change the password on my CVS account on asgard? I tried to update my copy of screamers, but I can't get in. |
| 17:31.42 | Patlabor221 | yes I probably did after the hackinator |
| 17:31.44 | doughecka | :/ |
| 17:31.50 | larsl | Ah. |
| 17:31.59 | doughecka | iTunes Music Store sells 275,000 Tracks in 18 Hours |
| 17:32.02 | doughecka | wow |
| 17:33.26 | Noodleman_ | you can get Noodlebot at http://asgard.bakadigital.com/noodlebot.pl |
| 17:33.39 | Patlabor221 | or just www |
| 17:33.46 | Patlabor221 | asgard is also the main site. |
| 17:33.52 | Noodleman_ | ok |
| 17:33.56 | doughecka | bleh |
| 17:34.01 | doughecka | silly unix formatting |
| 17:34.16 | Patlabor221 | phear the case sensitiveness |
| 17:34.37 | doughecka | well, just the no linefeed or whatever they are |
| 17:35.02 | Noodleman_ | oh, and i deleted all of the factoids, so you'll have to add your 'form voltron' again |
| 17:35.22 | Noodleman_ | and i'll have to update the help |
| 17:35.32 | Patlabor221 | where does it store them? |
| 17:35.42 | Patlabor221 | you shoudl put it in CVS |
| 17:35.55 | Noodleman_ | in a DBM database file in the current directory |
| 17:35.59 | Noodleman_ | i plan on it |
| 17:36.41 | Patlabor221 | ok so # is a comment |
| 17:36.51 | Patlabor221 | right? |
| 17:36.55 | Noodleman_ | yup |
| 17:37.10 | Patlabor221 | @ and aray? |
| 17:37.10 | doughecka | hrm |
| 17:37.13 | doughecka | my bot dont work |
| 17:37.16 | Noodleman_ | yup |
| 17:37.40 | Patlabor221 | is that just a convention thing? or a language thing? |
| 17:37.46 | Patlabor221 | are there actual variable types? |
| 17:37.49 | Noodleman_ | that's a language thing |
| 17:37.56 | Noodleman_ | no variable types in perl |
| 17:38.04 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 17:38.13 | Noodleman_ | you don't even need to declare variables, but it's a good practice |
| 17:38.24 | Noodleman_ | i updated the help and uploaded |
| 17:38.33 | larsl | Well, there's a difference between scalars, arrays and associative arrays. |
| 17:38.46 | Noodleman_ | well, yeah |
| 17:38.47 | larsl | And references etc. |
| 17:38.50 | Noodleman_ | but that's it |
| 17:39.05 | larsl | That's what the $ and @ is for. |
| 17:39.06 | *** join/#bzflag Noodlebot (~noodlebot@bc183148.bendcable.com) |
| 17:39.16 | larsl | What's the character for associative arrays? % ? |
| 17:39.18 | Patlabor221 | now to just get it to call a DLL :) |
| 17:39.25 | Noodleman_ | hehe |
| 17:40.08 | Patlabor221 | or just find an IRC class |
| 17:41.02 | Patlabor221 | actualy all I would need would be tellnet right? |
| 17:41.30 | doughecka | yea |
| 17:41.31 | Noodleman_ | you should just be able to use the subroutines and stuff in the program |
| 17:44.13 | Noodleman_ | larsl: yes |
| 17:44.46 | ak|ra | for what? |
| 17:44.56 | Patlabor221 | pure distilled EVIL |
| 17:46.09 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.30 | Noodleman_ | you could learn perl, then port Noodlebot into C++ |
| 17:46.31 | Noodleman_ | :-) |
| 17:46.39 | doughecka | huh |
| 17:46.43 | Patlabor221 | need the IRC component thingy |
| 17:46.44 | doughecka | it dont work under winders |
| 17:47.14 | Noodleman_ | windows isn't the prefered platform ;-) |
| 17:47.34 | Patlabor221 | what dosnt' work on winderz? |
| 17:47.41 | Noodleman_ | i guess Noodlebot |
| 17:48.02 | Patlabor221 | I gathered that |
| 17:48.06 | Patlabor221 | but what part? |
| 17:48.06 | doughecka | well |
| 17:48.10 | doughecka | it recievers OK |
| 17:48.18 | doughecka | but nothing comes back out of the bot |
| 17:48.21 | doughecka | its dead |
| 17:48.25 | doughecka | jim |
| 17:49.08 | Noodleman_ | does it work for you Patlabor221? |
| 17:49.18 | Patlabor221 | haven't tried yet |
| 17:49.41 | Patlabor221 | is printserver your function or a built in thing? |
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| 17:49.47 | Noodleman_ | it's mine |
| 17:49.52 | Noodleman_ | go to the bottom |
| 17:49.54 | doughecka | Dougbot: insult Noodlebot |
| 17:49.58 | doughecka | huh, see? |
| 17:50.00 | doughecka | dead |
| 17:50.09 | Noodleman_ | Noodlebot: insult Dougbot |
| 17:50.09 | Noodlebot | dougbot, thou idol of idiot-worshippers! |
| 17:50.16 | *** kick/#bzflag [Dougbot!~jeffm@208.48.199.214] by Patlabor221 (Test it private) |
| 17:50.17 | *** join/#bzflag Dougbot (WOZNIAK@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 17:50.18 | Dougbot | patlabor221: :-P |
| 17:50.23 | doughecka | hey! |
| 17:50.26 | doughecka | it talks now! |
| 17:50.26 | Noodleman_ | hmm |
| 17:50.32 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net] by Patlabor221 |
| 17:50.36 | Noodleman_ | hehe |
| 17:50.47 | *** kick/#bzflag [Dougbot!~jeffm@208.48.199.214] by Patlabor221 (I said test it private) |
| 17:51.22 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b+b *!*@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net *!*bot*@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net] by Patlabor221 |
| 17:52.03 | doughecka | huh |
| 17:52.06 | Patlabor221 | what is $serve |
| 17:52.17 | Patlabor221 | well $server |
| 17:52.38 | Noodleman_ | $server is the file pointer for writing to or reading from the server |
| 17:52.45 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 17:52.49 | doughecka | huh |
| 17:52.53 | doughecka | it wont do it anymore |
| 17:53.09 | Patlabor221 | still don't need 3 bots here |
| 17:53.22 | Patlabor221 | this is not undernet |
| 17:53.23 | doughecka | we dont need bots. |
| 17:53.32 | Noodleman_ | hehe |
| 17:53.45 | Noodleman_ | i've never been on undernet, i hear it's awful |
| 17:53.52 | Patlabor221 | tis |
| 17:54.09 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I could do the evil thing, and replicate noodlebot in MFC :) |
| 17:54.13 | doughecka | all the warez and moviez you want |
| 17:54.15 | Noodleman_ | haha |
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| 18:00.46 | doughecka | http://home.attbi.com/~bernhard36/honda-ad.html |
| 18:01.30 | Patlabor221 | that is soo 2 weeks ago man |
| 18:03.09 | Noodleman_ | found a noodlebug :-) |
| 18:03.42 | doughecka | haha |
| 18:03.43 | *** join/#bzflag Noodlebot (~noodlebot@bc183148.bendcable.com) |
| 18:03.51 | doughecka | rare ya know |
| 18:05.41 | Patlabor221 | is it just me, or does it only do factoids in PM? |
| 18:14.44 | larsl | Um, what's the chicken doing there? =) |
| 18:15.35 | Patlabor221 | CTC man, it's all about the chicken! |
| 18:19.13 | Patlabor221 | you see the proposed new model larsl? |
| 18:21.54 | larsl | Where? |
| 18:22.01 | Patlabor221 | no in the game yet |
| 18:22.02 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/comp3.png |
| 18:22.15 | Noodleman_ | Patlabor221: it does factoids in the channel too, you just have to talk to it or start it with ~ |
| 18:22.21 | Noodleman_ | ~moo |
| 18:22.22 | Noodlebot | moo |
| 18:22.30 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 18:22.35 | Noodleman_ | ah yes, let me update help |
| 18:22.41 | Patlabor221 | larsl there is also the psibliublity of this one |
| 18:22.42 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/Mk4Plus.png |
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| 18:24.38 | Noodleman_ | moo is <action> moos |
| 18:24.41 | Noodleman_ | ~moo |
| 18:24.47 | larsl | Patlabor221: What's the difference between the one on the picture and the one in the game? |
| 18:24.52 | Noodleman_ | moo is <reply> moo |
| 18:24.53 | Noodleman_ | ~moo |
| 18:24.53 | Noodlebot | moo |
| 18:24.57 | Noodleman_ | moo is moo |
| 18:24.58 | Noodleman_ | ~moo |
| 18:24.59 | Noodlebot | moo is moo |
| 18:25.01 | Patlabor221 | has a better back end |
| 18:25.06 | Patlabor221 | has intakes |
| 18:25.17 | Patlabor221 | has modeled engines |
| 18:25.23 | Patlabor221 | bit longer and thiner |
| 18:25.33 | Patlabor221 | the second one is all roundy too |
| 18:25.33 | larsl | Ah, OK. |
| 18:25.49 | Patlabor221 | never liked the back end of the current one. |
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| 20:03.43 | doughecka | greetings |
| 20:09.13 | Noodleman | ~insult doughecka |
| 20:09.13 | Noodlebot | thy food is such as hath been belch'd upon by infected lungs, doughecka. |
| 20:19.00 | Secret_Hamster | hi <insert your nick here>, how's the <wife/dog/hamster/kids>. I'm fine, yea really |
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| 20:33.36 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 20:39.32 | Noodleman | ~insult Patlabor221 |
| 20:39.33 | Noodlebot | i never knew so young a body with so old a head, patlabor221. |
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| 20:54.33 | [STC]_creeperz | G'Day! |
| 20:55.46 | creeperz | ACK! |
| 20:55.54 | creeperz | Forgot what site I needed to go to |
| 20:55.57 | creeperz | :-/ |
| 20:57.29 | creeperz | :-) |
| 20:57.34 | creeperz | I remember now! |
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| 21:00.46 | *** kick/#bzflag [Patlabor22113!~jeffm@208.48.199.214] by Patlabor221 (Patlabor221) |
| 21:01.05 | Patlabor221 | hehe I think I'm flooding my own connection. |
| 21:01.20 | creeperz | :-) |
| 21:01.23 | creeperz | Hi |
| 21:01.26 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 21:01.34 | creeperz | Nuthing much |
| 21:01.36 | creeperz | You? |
| 21:01.45 | Patlabor221 | just slurpin down a site. |
| 21:01.56 | creeperz | What does that mean? |
| 21:02.03 | creeperz | Anything like eating a slurpie? |
| 21:02.05 | creeperz | :-) |
| 21:02.14 | Patlabor221 | downloading the entire contents of a site. |
| 21:02.22 | creeperz | Cool |
| 21:02.25 | creeperz | What site? |
| 21:02.35 | Patlabor221 | the robotech techincal archives |
| 21:02.39 | Patlabor221 | actulay it's not cool |
| 21:02.43 | creeperz | Ah |
| 21:02.56 | Patlabor221 | I have to do it this way cus I they won't gime the FTP login to my server |
| 21:03.05 | Patlabor221 | and I need to move this to a new host. |
| 21:03.07 | Patlabor221 | bastards |
| 21:03.23 | creeperz | Heh |
| 21:04.02 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 21:04.26 | captain_proton | undergrad research program in network/host security this summer |
| 21:04.34 | creeperz | Ummm |
| 21:04.38 | creeperz | I have 0 sound |
| 21:06.53 | creeperz | ?! |
| 21:07.18 | Patlabor221 | they pay you for research? |
| 21:07.26 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: weekly stipend |
| 21:07.27 | creeperz | I'm restarting |
| 21:07.37 | Patlabor221 | stipends are good |
| 21:07.38 | creeperz | This sux |
| 21:07.59 | Patlabor221 | what did you do to your computer? |
| 21:08.43 | Patlabor221 | way to go peer! |
| 21:09.26 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: looks like you're missing #8 in the lain soundtrack? |
| 21:09.35 | Patlabor221 | I am |
| 21:10.02 | Patlabor221 | I guess I am |
| 21:10.18 | Patlabor221 | I was not the one to post it, I will have to talk to the man |
| 21:14.08 | *** join/#bzflag creeperz (creeperz@host-178-78-220-24.midco.net) |
| 21:14.17 | creeperz | Ok |
| 21:14.18 | creeperz | Back |
| 21:14.49 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 21:14.49 | captain_proton | food |
| 21:14.58 | creeperz | AHH!! |
| 21:15.06 | creeperz | SOUND...HURT...EARS! |
| 21:19.20 | captain_proton | oooooh |
| 21:19.28 | captain_proton | we have the trouble with tribbles :) |
| 21:19.41 | creeperz | ? |
| 21:20.14 | captain_proton | please tell me you know what a tribble is |
| 21:20.30 | creeperz | I'm going to stay quiet on this one |
| 21:20.30 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure he dosn't |
| 21:20.48 | Noodleman | tribbles |
| 21:20.54 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 21:21.03 | Noodleman | i know what a tribble is :-) |
| 21:21.26 | captain_proton | except for the whole being born pregnant thing |
| 21:21.34 | creeperz | Go snype hunting? :-) |
| 21:21.56 | Noodleman | sn[yi]pes :-) |
| 21:24.59 | creeperz | What is it? |
| 21:25.17 | captain_proton | small, furry, coos |
| 21:25.33 | doughecka | I know what a tribble is |
| 21:25.35 | Noodleman | sorta like a furby, but cooler :-) |
| 21:25.44 | Secret_Hamster | The Troublel with Tribbles |
| 21:25.58 | doughecka | my dad has a screensaver that made these tribbles pop all over the place |
| 21:26.01 | Secret_Hamster | one of the worst CST episodes ever |
| 21:26.04 | doughecka | on his mac no less |
| 21:26.11 | captain_proton | CST? |
| 21:26.13 | captain_proton | and worst? |
| 21:26.17 | captain_proton | how can you call it worst? |
| 21:26.19 | Secret_Hamster | Classic Star Trek |
| 21:26.28 | captain_proton | hmm, never heard it called that |
| 21:26.31 | captain_proton | always "TOS" |
| 21:26.35 | doughecka | TOS? |
| 21:26.40 | captain_proton | the original series |
| 21:26.45 | doughecka | ah |
| 21:26.57 | doughecka | wierd hairdos and all that stuff |
| 21:27.02 | Secret_Hamster | but there was something like 5 series was there not? |
| 21:27.13 | doughecka | not that the new ones are any better |
| 21:27.15 | Secret_Hamster | so therefore only the first can be TOS |
| 21:27.29 | captain_proton | yup |
| 21:27.38 | doughecka | Ve'ger! |
| 21:27.52 | captain_proton | vger is not from TOS, its from the movies :P |
| 21:28.07 | Patlabor221 | even numberd movies sucked! |
| 21:28.27 | Secret_Hamster | I have to say Star Trek just became an awful beast. The TNG just seemed to become a continuity error creator despite all the supposed control |
| 21:28.40 | doughecka | or wasah |
| 21:28.43 | captain_proton | TNG had good stories, TOS is entertaining |
| 21:28.49 | captain_proton | almost everything since has been crap |
| 21:28.49 | captain_proton | :P |
| 21:29.06 | Patlabor221 | why does god need a starship? |
| 21:29.11 | captain_proton | =) |
| 21:29.13 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:29.34 | Secret_Hamster | TNG stories always had a happy ending, as long as you "Do the right thing" |
| 21:29.58 | Secret_Hamster | what bollocks. life shits on you, and will til the day you die |
| 21:30.11 | Secret_Hamster | and they have a strange view of evolution too |
| 21:30.23 | captain_proton | Secret_Hamster: so? it was entertaining television |
| 21:30.34 | Secret_Hamster | anyway don't get me started |
| 21:31.16 | Secret_Hamster | actaully I only ever really watched it for Mirana Sirtis and the Tasha Yar (forget her real name) |
| 21:31.24 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 21:31.39 | captain_proton | tasha was far cuter than marina sirtis |
| 21:31.54 | Secret_Hamster | as there was a lack of any decent sci-fi on TV I always ended up watching it whilst eating tea |
| 21:31.58 | Patlabor221 | agreeed |
| 21:32.07 | Patlabor221 | you eat tea? |
| 21:32.09 | doughecka | eating tea? |
| 21:32.10 | Secret_Hamster | Yea, and the bastards killed her off |
| 21:32.28 | doughecka | gee, cook the tea a bit less |
| 21:32.32 | Patlabor221 | TNG allways got into that time travel crap, I thouhgt that runed it. |
| 21:32.34 | Secret_Hamster | teatime = british meal at about 17:00-18:00 |
| 21:32.36 | doughecka | dont boil it down |
| 21:32.40 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:33.39 | Secret_Hamster | Once Farscape came I never bothered with TNG, DS9, ENT (or whatever they term it) |
| 21:33.59 | Secret_Hamster | Farscape kicks ST's arse big time |
| 21:34.11 | captain_proton | i'm into mostly older sci-fi - TOS, dr who, blakes7... :) |
| 21:34.22 | Patlabor221 | SG1 is prety good |
| 21:34.35 | Secret_Hamster | Oh yea, blakes 7. dodgy sets or what |
| 21:34.49 | captain_proton | very dodgy |
| 21:35.01 | Secret_Hamster | oh dear the ship took a direct hit. nope the sets just dodgy |
| 21:35.01 | captain_proton | plus their wibblewibble tellyport :) |
| 21:35.09 | Secret_Hamster | oh yea forgot about that |
| 21:35.34 | Secret_Hamster | anyway must go bedtime here. and my luck might be in tonight |
| 21:35.39 | captain_proton | 'night |
| 21:38.16 | Patlabor221 | I thik websnake should play the speed racer song as it sucks down sites. |
| 21:38.59 | creeperz | "GO SPEED RACER"! |
| 21:39.38 | Patlabor221 | how do you know the speed racer song, but not tribles? |
| 21:39.46 | Noodleman | speed racer... |
| 21:39.51 | Noodleman | el stupido |
| 21:40.43 | creeperz | Speed Racer=Old show! |
| 21:40.46 | creeperz | :-) |
| 21:41.07 | captain_proton | tribbles = older show |
| 21:41.12 | creeperz | I used to watch TV like I use computer |
| 21:41.26 | creeperz | There was a period when I just watched TV |
| 21:41.29 | Patlabor221 | then how can you not know tribbles? |
| 21:41.45 | creeperz | So I probally never heard of "tribbles" |
| 21:41.58 | Patlabor221 | tribbles are on TV |
| 21:42.12 | creeperz | Maybe I just didn't come across it, ok! |
| 21:42.32 | creeperz | Is that a satisfactory answer or are you going to keep bitching about it?? |
| 21:42.48 | Patlabor221 | ohh it is, just find it odd that's all |
| 21:47.47 | doughecka | creeperz is odd |
| 21:47.56 | Noodleman | doughecka: |
| 21:49.00 | Noodleman | doughecka is odd |
| 21:49.08 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor22113 (~jeffm@208.48.199.214) |
| 21:49.11 | Noodleman | ~insult Noodleman's typing |
| 21:49.12 | Noodlebot | hast thou never an eye in thine head, noodleman's typing? |
| 21:49.25 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:49.55 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 21:54.33 | captain_proton | patlabor221: you need to make the chicken actually move when the model does its walking |
| 21:54.34 | captain_proton | =) |
| 21:55.14 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:57.43 | captain_proton | hmm |
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| 22:29.58 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 22:30.18 | Patlabor221 | *sigh* anyone know how to see what crond is set up to run? |
| 22:30.28 | *** join/#bzflag doughecka (WOZNIAK@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 22:30.28 | doughecka | greetings |
| 22:30.30 | captain_proton | look in /etc/cron.* |
| 22:31.20 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 22:32.28 | Patlabor221 | now to see if these are all the things that shoudl be intere |
| 22:32.37 | Patlabor221 | something is nailin the drive like mad |
| 22:36.10 | Patlabor221 | is there anyway to see what the current bandwith usage is? |
| 22:37.27 | captain_proton | there are some things that will monitor it but i don't recall any names |
| 22:37.31 | captain_proton | search at freshmeat.net |
| 22:37.40 | Patlabor221 | k thnaks |
| 22:38.13 | larsl | jiface is nice if you run WindowMaker. |
| 22:38.30 | larsl | And gkrellm monitors anything. |
| 22:38.31 | Noodleman | Patlabor221: /proc/net/dev has information on how many bytes have gone through your interfaces |
| 22:38.45 | Patlabor221 | can I monitor that? |
| 22:39.08 | Noodleman | just query that every minute and average the current info there with the previous info |
| 22:39.27 | larsl | That's what most monitor programs do. |
| 22:40.08 | Noodleman | cban is a monitor program i've used |
| 22:40.21 | Noodleman | it's console based |
| 22:40.48 | Noodleman | and of course gkrellm |
| 22:46.08 | Patlabor221 | how does one start glrellm when one has installed it? |
| 22:55.33 | doughecka | 3 bowls of beans and rice |
| 22:55.39 | doughecka | Mmm Mmm good |
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| 23:02.23 | Noodleman | ~beans |
| 23:02.24 | Noodlebot | beans, beans, the magical fruit, |
| 23:02.24 | Noodlebot | the more you eat, the more you toot |
| 23:02.24 | Noodlebot | the more you toot, the better you feel |
| 23:02.24 | Noodlebot | i think i'll have beans for every meal! |
| 23:03.09 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:05.51 | Patlabor221 | ok that gkreallm thing is kewl |
| 23:05.52 | Noodleman | i've heard that rhyme since the day i was born, i suppose :-) |
| 23:06.23 | Noodleman | haven't you ever heard it? |
| 23:06.37 | doughecka | yea |
| 23:06.39 | doughecka | many times |
| 23:06.41 | Patlabor221 | he hasn't heard the fart song? |
| 23:06.56 | doughecka | i've heard that rhyme since the day after i was born, i suppose :-) |
| 23:07.32 | Noodleman | w00t wisdom tooth is in, now it doesn't hurt like the dickens :-) |
| 23:07.54 | doughecka | is IN? |
| 23:08.12 | Noodleman | the psychiatrist is IN |
| 23:08.23 | doughecka | sit. |
| 23:08.25 | doughecka | stay. |
| 23:09.13 | Noodleman | good douggy |
| 23:09.26 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:09.48 | Patlabor221 | cap what is your address again? |
| 23:10.39 | Noodleman | root@allevil.org |
| 23:10.53 | Patlabor221 | no real addy |
| 23:11.04 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:11.06 | Noodleman | that IS his real addy! |
| 23:12.51 | Noodleman | allevil.org NS NS1.DOMAINSTEALINGWHORES.COM |
| 23:12.59 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:13.04 | doughecka | ~nslookup allevel.org |
| 23:13.19 | doughecka | ~nslookup allevil.org |
| 23:13.28 | doughecka | hey, thats my IP |
| 23:13.44 | Noodleman | liar :-) |
| 23:13.50 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:16.10 | Patlabor221 | doug hecka is a bot? |
| 23:16.19 | Patlabor221 | ohh you are evil |
| 23:16.20 | Noodleman | i always guessed that |
| 23:16.24 | doughecka | no |
| 23:16.30 | Patlabor221 | prove it |
| 23:16.32 | doughecka | I am an all powerfull bash script |
| 23:17.00 | Noodleman | i am a self-mutating perl/php/c++ hybrid script |
| 23:17.07 | *** kick/#bzflag [doughecka!~Patlabor2@208.48.199.214] by Patlabor221 (Patlabor221) |
| 23:17.07 | *** join/#bzflag doughecka (WOZNIAK@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 23:17.12 | Patlabor221 | we only need one script |
| 23:17.16 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 23:17.19 | Noodleman | yup, he's a bot :-) |
| 23:17.42 | Patlabor221 | doug your messed up game pad thingy will go in the mail today. |
| 23:18.27 | Noodleman | hah |
| 23:18.34 | Noodleman | never really thought about it |
| 23:18.34 | Patlabor221 | wel i guess he dosn't want it |
| 23:18.38 | Noodleman | till now |
| 23:18.45 | Patlabor221 | they don't have peeing sections? |
| 23:18.50 | Patlabor221 | damn |
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| 23:19.07 | doughecka | greetings |
| 23:19.23 | Noodleman | you left us with a tidbit of great import |
| 23:19.31 | Noodleman | made us think |
| 23:19.37 | doughecka | wow |
| 23:19.45 | Noodleman | <-- doughecka has quit (""Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a pool." Think about it.") |
| 23:19.51 | doughecka | never ever load timrikers photo in img2ascii |
| 23:19.56 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:19.59 | Noodleman | why? |
| 23:20.09 | Noodleman | what does it do? |
| 23:20.11 | doughecka | stole all my ram |
| 23:20.18 | doughecka | made trillian crash too |
| 23:20.23 | Noodleman | tim is a ram thief |
| 23:20.26 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 23:20.51 | Patlabor221 | why would you want to? |
| 23:21.01 | doughecka | dunno |
| 23:21.42 | doughecka | But I have a cool hat. |
| 23:21.55 | Patlabor221 | why do you do things that you don't know why you do them? |
| 23:22.03 | Patlabor221 | are you related to creeper? |
| 23:22.17 | doughecka | as closely as you are |
| 23:22.21 | Patlabor221 | what the hell is this thing doing!!!, its nailin the drive like mad |
| 23:22.30 | doughecka | a bug? |
| 23:22.37 | Patlabor221 | it's the OS |
| 23:22.44 | doughecka | yup, its a bug |
| 23:22.49 | Noodleman | i've got a cooler hat |
| 23:23.00 | Patlabor221 | what is kjornal? |
| 23:23.10 | doughecka | ~kjornal |
| 23:23.16 | doughecka | dunno |
| 23:23.17 | Patlabor221 | and h3u95sdfhaljdsfhasd from que? |
| 23:23.21 | Noodleman | kjournal? |
| 23:23.30 | Patlabor221 | or something like that |
| 23:23.32 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:23.33 | Noodleman | it's a kernel journaling daemon |
| 23:23.41 | Noodleman | thingy |
| 23:23.44 | Patlabor221 | ok so I think that's a good thing |
| 23:23.46 | doughecka | stuff |
| 23:23.51 | doughecka | yea |
| 23:24.05 | doughecka | if its REALLY important, try killall kjornal |
| 23:24.07 | Patlabor221 | any idea what the "from que" things are |
| 23:24.16 | doughecka | if the system blows up, then its importants |
| 23:24.17 | Patlabor221 | doug be real |
| 23:24.24 | doughecka | :0 |
| 23:24.44 | Patlabor221 | the from que things have these wierd names too |
| 23:25.02 | doughecka | linux is wierd |
| 23:25.24 | Patlabor221 | so you've just given your soul to MS now? |
| 23:25.43 | Patlabor221 | you should change your hostname to "drone0754" |
| 23:25.46 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 23:26.11 | Patlabor221 | I wonder if that one is just as pointless |
| 23:26.31 | doughecka | and then maybe the comptia linux+ exma |
| 23:26.35 | Patlabor221 | hmmmm python keeps showing up as active, wonder how I can see what it's doing. |
| 23:27.23 | Noodleman | ps fauwx |
| 23:28.19 | captain_proton | ps wufwax |
| 23:28.35 | Noodleman | haha |
| 23:28.39 | Patlabor221 | what does that show? |
| 23:29.04 | Noodleman | everything :-) |
| 23:29.05 | larsl | All your active processes with full command lines. |
| 23:29.22 | larsl | And lots of other info. |
| 23:29.52 | doughecka | aka everything |
| 23:29.54 | Patlabor221 | ahhh the rhn applet is a python script |
| 23:30.10 | Noodleman | redhat likes to write stuff in python |
| 23:30.23 | Noodleman | never could figure it out :-) |
| 23:30.48 | Patlabor221 | what is wrong with that? |
| 23:30.55 | Noodleman | perl forever! |
| 23:30.55 | larsl | It's very elegant. I've never actually written anything with it though. |
| 23:31.07 | Noodleman | dirty code ruulz! |
| 23:31.25 | doughecka | no comments rulez! |
| 23:31.55 | Patlabor221 | hmm smmsp what the hell is that? |
| 23:32.15 | Patlabor221 | that's what is doing the "from queue" things |
| 23:33.16 | Patlabor221 | and sucking up a whoping 64% of the CPU when it does it |
| 23:33.37 | larsl | Some sendmail thing, I think. |
| 23:34.10 | Noodleman | qmail eats sendmail for breakfast :-) |
| 23:34.17 | Patlabor221 | hmmm well this should not be sending any mail |
| 23:34.17 | Noodleman | and eats postfix for dessert |
| 23:34.40 | Patlabor221 | god I hope I am not sending out spam |
| 23:34.47 | Patlabor221 | wonder how I find out |
| 23:34.58 | larsl | 'Sendmail Message Submission Program' |
| 23:35.00 | Noodleman | and djbdns whips BIND's big bloated butt |
| 23:35.07 | larsl | I don't know what it does though. |
| 23:35.31 | Patlabor221 | how do I find if sendmail is set to send real mail? |
| 23:36.55 | larsl | I've never used it... what kind of mail would it send if it doesn't send real mail? |
| 23:37.11 | Noodleman | local mail, he probably is trying to say |
| 23:37.13 | Patlabor221 | I dono stuff to local users from the system |
| 23:37.17 | Patlabor221 | yeah that stuff |
| 23:37.48 | Noodleman | down with sendmail! up with qmail! |
| 23:37.59 | Patlabor221 | I don't want any mail on this system |
| 23:38.09 | Noodleman | killall sendmail |
| 23:38.11 | Patlabor221 | we have our SMTP on another machine |
| 23:38.25 | larsl | 'service sendmail stop' |
| 23:38.25 | Patlabor221 | I'm worked that it's being exploited somehow |
| 23:38.32 | Noodleman | chkconfig --off sendmail |
| 23:38.41 | larsl | If your distribution has 'service'. |
| 23:38.49 | Noodleman | he's using redhat |
| 23:38.58 | Noodleman | so he does |
| 23:39.17 | Patlabor221 | do I need sendmail for local mail, for logs and stuff? |
| 23:39.24 | Noodleman | you shouldn't |
| 23:39.35 | Patlabor221 | wow CPU sage just droped to the foor |
| 23:39.39 | Noodleman | it's safe to not run an mta if you don't think you need it |
| 23:40.24 | Patlabor221 | everything that needs mail on the webserver is set to use mail.bakadigital.com and thats another machine. |
| 23:41.22 | Noodleman | d347h t0 5P4mM3rZ! |
| 23:41.29 | Noodleman | uiuiuuiuiuiuiuui! |
| 23:41.45 | Noodleman | ok, i'm being a lamer right now :-) |
| 23:41.52 | doughecka | :P |
| 23:42.03 | Patlabor221 | mail.baka requires a login, so it should not be able to be used as a spam relay |
| 23:42.53 | Patlabor221 | and it's got it's own user set so even if somone had an account on asgard they could not send mail on the smtp |
| 23:43.29 | Noodleman | Noodlebot: kill a spammer! |
| 23:43.45 | doughecka | ~dict malletosis |
| 23:44.00 | Patlabor221 | dood, "Nut shot" |
| 23:44.03 | Noodleman | malletosis is getting nailed with a big, wooden mallet |
| 23:44.09 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:44.13 | Patlabor221 | swift knee to the happy sacks |
| 23:44.24 | Patlabor221 | right in the bojangles |
| 23:44.36 | Noodleman | i hate spammers with every fiber in my body |
| 23:44.50 | Patlabor221 | your body has fibers? |
| 23:45.03 | Noodleman | haha, it's an expression |
| 23:45.15 | Patlabor221 | your body is an expression? |
| 23:45.38 | Noodleman | yeah, like the one on my face right now thinking about your weirdness :-) |
| 23:46.04 | Patlabor221 | d00d you think too much |
| 23:46.14 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 23:46.26 | Noodleman | i'll blow out my brain thinking so much |
