00:00.10 | Patlabor221 | there ya go |
00:01.19 | Patlabor221 | uck looks like we get crap prices on PCI cards |
00:01.32 | Patlabor221 | cap, tell scan I may have a PCI TNT2, I'll look |
00:01.34 | Noodleman_work | it looks like it left portland this afternoon :-) |
00:01.40 | [STC]_creeperz | ~creeperz |
00:01.40 | | a little man who stalks in shadows and crawls on the ground...sorta like a tank. |
00:01.40 | Patlabor221 | that woudl work and take the nvidias |
00:01.51 | Patlabor221 | huzah |
00:01.51 | [STC]_creeperz | ~stc |
00:01.52 | | methinks stc is spine tinglaz clan, name property of [STC] creeperz |
00:02.07 | doughecka | he said he dont want a tnt2 |
00:02.16 | [STC]_creeperz | ~forget creeperz |
00:02.16 | | i didn't have anything called 'creeperz', [STC]_creeperz |
00:02.24 | Patlabor221 | ohh ok |
00:02.34 | [STC]_creeperz | ~forget creeperz |
00:02.34 | | [STC]_creeperz: i didn't have anything called 'creeperz' |
00:02.39 | [STC]_creeperz | YES YOU DID! |
00:02.58 | Patlabor221 | thought he wanted one that just took the nvidias |
00:03.09 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, creeperz is <reply> a little man who stalks in shadows and crawls on the ground...sorta like a tank. Terry Caulfield || www.creeperz.com |
00:03.10 | | okay, [STC]_creeperz |
00:03.17 | [STC]_creeperz | ~creeperz |
00:03.17 | | a little man who stalks in shadows and crawls on the ground...sorta like a tank. Terry Caulfield |
00:03.29 | Patlabor221 | doug he said nothing about a TNT2 |
00:04.13 | doughecka | [18:34] <scanline> and I hate TNT2s |
00:04.26 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
00:04.37 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: he told me he's had enough of tnt2s, and would rather wait until he has the money to get a gf2 |
00:05.04 | Patlabor221 | how much he got? |
00:05.05 | [STC]_creeperz | Noodleman |
00:05.48 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmmm |
00:06.53 | [STC]_creeperz | Noodleman_work: Did you say that you might burn 9.0 for me and mail them? |
00:07.17 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmmm, a Tri- boot would be very interesting :) |
00:07.18 | Patlabor221 | 9 just came out today |
00:07.22 | [STC]_creeperz | I know |
00:07.28 | Patlabor221 | and only for registerd users |
00:07.33 | [STC]_creeperz | I know |
00:07.44 | [STC]_creeperz | But he can still send it to me, right? |
00:07.50 | Patlabor221 | is noodle a registerd user? |
00:07.53 | [STC]_creeperz | Jeff: is SuSe any good? |
00:07.56 | Patlabor221 | can he download them |
00:07.59 | [STC]_creeperz | Yes |
00:07.59 | [STC]_creeperz | He is |
00:08.02 | Patlabor221 | dono, never used it |
00:08.02 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea |
00:08.05 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
00:08.16 | [STC]_creeperz | He said he is a subscriber |
00:08.21 | Patlabor221 | keen |
00:08.31 | [STC]_creeperz | I am not really keen |
00:08.47 | Patlabor221 | then unkeen |
00:08.57 | [STC]_creeperz | "The rest of [my] mind is cloged with malted hops and bong resin" |
00:09.13 | Noodleman_work | insult [STC]_creeperz |
00:09.13 | Noodlebot | [STC]_creeperz, thou idol of idiot-worshippers! |
00:09.14 | Patlabor221 | perhaps you watch that movie too much |
00:09.26 | [STC]_creeperz | 4 times |
00:09.28 | [STC]_creeperz | :\ |
00:09.35 | Noodleman_work | which movie is that? |
00:09.37 | [STC]_creeperz | And you said that to me the other day :) |
00:09.43 | [STC]_creeperz | Black Sheep |
00:09.45 | [STC]_creeperz | No |
00:09.47 | [STC]_creeperz | Tommy Boy |
00:09.53 | [STC]_creeperz | Tommy Boy is a great movie |
00:09.54 | Noodleman_work | hmm |
00:10.00 | Noodleman_work | never heard of it :-P |
00:10.09 | [STC]_creeperz | You've never seen nor heard of it?! |
00:10.13 | [STC]_creeperz | Ok |
00:10.14 | Noodleman_work | nope |
00:10.20 | [STC]_creeperz | Where is this from...: |
00:10.22 | Noodleman_work | only the *good* movies |
00:10.24 | Noodleman_work | :-) |
00:11.32 | Patlabor221 | had some funny moment |
00:11.42 | [STC]_creeperz | "A swallow carrying a coconut?" "It could grip it by the husk" "It's not a question of where he GRIPS it, its a matter of weight ratios; a 5 ounce bird cannot carry a 1 pound coconut" |
00:12.31 | [STC]_creeperz | Good News! : I'm selling my car for $1500! Most going toward a new computer! |
00:12.48 | [STC]_creeperz | Then I can strip this one out and put a REAL OS on it ;-) |
00:13.03 | Noodleman_work | you can get a brand new really good computer for $500 |
00:13.10 | [STC]_creeperz | Dell? |
00:13.15 | Noodleman_work | nope |
00:13.21 | Noodleman_work | with dell you pay for the name |
00:13.26 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea |
00:13.37 | [STC]_creeperz | But they make OK computers |
00:13.51 | [STC]_creeperz | But I still say they're just a marketing scheme |
00:13.57 | Patlabor221 | define OK? |
00:13.58 | Noodleman_work | you can get a computer of the same quality for half the price |
00:14.09 | Patlabor221 | I can sell you a $350 computer |
00:14.10 | [STC]_creeperz | ~dict OK |
00:14.13 | Patlabor221 | a good one |
00:14.15 | [STC]_creeperz | New? |
00:14.20 | Patlabor221 | yup |
00:14.26 | Noodleman_work | so'nuff |
00:14.27 | [STC]_creeperz | Where? |
00:14.39 | [STC]_creeperz | OS? |
00:14.41 | Patlabor221 | the other company I work for |
00:14.45 | Patlabor221 | dosn't come with an OS |
00:14.58 | [STC]_creeperz | No |
00:15.00 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
00:15.02 | Noodleman_work | you can get xp home for $90 |
00:15.08 | Noodleman_work | or free... |
00:15.10 | [STC]_creeperz | Really? |
00:15.10 | Noodleman_work | :-) |
00:15.44 | [STC]_creeperz | Go to Japan: The buy and sell in their marketplaces for 1/3 of the estimated price in America on USA goods |
00:15.49 | [STC]_creeperz | They* |
00:16.08 | [STC]_creeperz | BRB |
00:16.22 | [STC]_creeperz | Back |
00:16.38 | [STC]_creeperz | I closed my Java Applet window and now I'm superman! |
00:16.39 | Patlabor221 | we can sell XP too for another 90 or so |
00:16.51 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
00:16.58 | [STC]_creeperz | I want it to come with XP |
00:17.17 | Patlabor221 | then pay 90 more and we will install it |
00:17.18 | [STC]_creeperz | Commador 64 ;-) |
00:17.23 | Patlabor221 | http://www.rgpsales.com/Systems.htm |
00:17.32 | [STC]_creeperz | You make comps at GibbsCAM? |
00:17.38 | captain_proton | sigh |
00:18.06 | Noodleman_work | different company |
00:18.10 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
00:18.15 | Noodleman_work | look at the freakin' url :-) |
00:18.16 | [STC]_creeperz | What kind of Processor? |
00:18.18 | Patlabor221 | no I have 2 jobs |
00:18.23 | [STC]_creeperz | I saw ;) |
00:18.26 | [STC]_creeperz | Cool |
00:18.31 | Patlabor221 | we have Durrons and athalong XPs |
00:18.32 | [STC]_creeperz | Processor? |
00:18.36 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
00:18.38 | Patlabor221 | using all DDR now |
00:18.49 | Patlabor221 | you could also upgrade to a slightly better video card |
00:18.51 | [STC]_creeperz | Better than Pentium 4 I guess |
00:18.53 | Patlabor221 | like a GF 4 MX |
00:19.01 | Patlabor221 | comparable to some of them |
00:19.04 | captain_proton | fie fi fo fum...i smell the blood of an ATHLON |
00:19.05 | Patlabor221 | just a lot cheaper |
00:19.05 | [STC]_creeperz | GF 4 MX is kinda spendy? |
00:19.15 | Patlabor221 | huh? |
00:19.20 | Patlabor221 | they are under 60 |
00:19.24 | Patlabor221 | for a MX |
00:19.25 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
00:19.29 | Patlabor221 | they are the crap card |
00:19.35 | [STC]_creeperz | ? |
00:19.39 | [STC]_creeperz | MX is? |
00:19.42 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
00:19.44 | Patlabor221 | no shaders |
00:19.50 | Patlabor221 | but they work for most things |
00:19.51 | [STC]_creeperz | G-Force is not a crap company |
00:20.00 | Patlabor221 | g-froce isn't a company |
00:20.07 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh yes :( |
00:20.12 | Patlabor221 | the MX line is the low end of Nvidia's chipsets |
00:20.17 | Patlabor221 | they work just fine |
00:20.17 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
00:20.22 | Patlabor221 | but they don't have shaders |
00:20.28 | Patlabor221 | but again they are a lot cheaper |
00:20.31 | [STC]_creeperz | So, what can I get "The bang for the buck"? |
00:20.40 | Patlabor221 | a MX |
00:20.45 | [STC]_creeperz | Good |
00:20.47 | [STC]_creeperz | Stable |
00:20.49 | [STC]_creeperz | ? |
00:20.52 | Patlabor221 | for the games you probably have you don't need shaders |
00:20.53 | Patlabor221 | sure |
00:20.54 | Noodleman_work | yup |
00:21.09 | [STC]_creeperz | Reliablity? |
00:21.14 | Noodleman_work | bzflag works perfectly on a geforce 4 mx |
00:21.15 | Patlabor221 | for 500 we can probably get you a XP1700 or 1900 |
00:21.19 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah |
00:21.25 | Patlabor221 | bz dosn't do any shaders |
00:21.31 | [STC]_creeperz | Great |
00:21.34 | Patlabor221 | have some GF2 MXs in some machines |
00:21.41 | Patlabor221 | they are as low as I will go |
00:21.51 | [STC]_creeperz | Hm |
00:21.54 | [STC]_creeperz | Umm |
00:22.05 | Patlabor221 | but then I am stuck up when it comes to video hardware |
00:22.09 | [STC]_creeperz | I'm new to computers and makes and lines and stuff |
00:22.17 | Patlabor221 | and I call this Radeon 9700 crap |
00:22.30 | [STC]_creeperz | Does it come with a monitor? |
00:22.35 | Patlabor221 | no |
00:22.42 | Patlabor221 | but we can get monitors as well |
00:22.49 | Patlabor221 | I think 17's are about 120 |
00:22.52 | [STC]_creeperz | That's one down...And a save! |
00:22.56 | Patlabor221 | we have some in stock |
00:22.59 | [STC]_creeperz | Not too bad |
00:23.07 | Patlabor221 | and I think we are using DDR now |
00:23.19 | captain_proton | hmm |
00:23.24 | [STC]_creeperz | And it really has a plexi-glass case on the side? |
00:23.25 | Patlabor221 | and they come with burners |
00:23.29 | [STC]_creeperz | Cool |
00:23.29 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you realize you keep adding letters to 'athlon' ? |
00:23.31 | Patlabor221 | that is one of the cases |
00:23.36 | Patlabor221 | that case costs more |
00:23.37 | captain_proton | i just noticed that you're up to 'athalong' |
00:23.39 | Patlabor221 | I know I can't type |
00:23.44 | Patlabor221 | :) |
00:23.52 | Patlabor221 | athalong-ginseg tea |
00:24.12 | [STC]_creeperz | "curent projects" on www.artemisgames.com :) |
00:24.24 | Patlabor221 | I have current progjects? |
00:24.27 | captain_proton | hmm...tea...good idea... |
00:24.40 | [STC]_creeperz | Curent Projects |
00:24.53 | Patlabor221 | least I didn't do bzfalg like I do sometimes |
00:25.02 | [STC]_creeperz | :) |
00:25.21 | [STC]_creeperz | Good thing that you didn't spell it BZFlag...With the "L" |
00:25.34 | [STC]_creeperz | Without* |
00:25.35 | Patlabor221 | the case with the window costs us about 2x as much as the other one |
00:25.41 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
00:25.46 | Patlabor221 | I have forgoten the F also |
00:25.47 | [STC]_creeperz | I don't really need a window |
00:25.54 | Patlabor221 | no I mean the entire case |
00:26.04 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
00:26.04 | Patlabor221 | the window is even an nother 8$ |
00:26.14 | Patlabor221 | the cheap systems don't have that nice case |
00:26.18 | [STC]_creeperz | The case costs alot? |
00:26.28 | [STC]_creeperz | Approx.? |
00:26.51 | Patlabor221 | dono we don't usualy do AMD systems with that case |
00:27.00 | Patlabor221 | but figure add about 25$ for that case |
00:27.16 | [STC]_creeperz | Ok, let me see, all I get is a blank computer, no monitor, no case? |
00:27.24 | Patlabor221 | this would be a good system for you |
00:27.25 | Patlabor221 | http://www.rgpsales.com/system3.htm |
00:27.38 | Patlabor221 | it is a complete system without monitor |
00:27.47 | Patlabor221 | case, keyboard, mouse, speakers |
00:27.49 | Patlabor221 | all that |
00:28.05 | Patlabor221 | just no OS |
00:28.21 | Patlabor221 | for that we offer XP at $95 installed |
00:28.22 | [STC]_creeperz | And I can buy the monitor (17") for $150? |
00:28.27 | Patlabor221 | about yes |
00:28.29 | Patlabor221 | maybe less |
00:28.32 | [STC]_creeperz | Good |
00:28.41 | [STC]_creeperz | And how much for the computer itself? |
00:28.58 | Patlabor221 | on the AMD it's a good mobo too, will take SDRAM or DDR |
00:29.16 | [STC]_creeperz | The cost |
00:29.19 | Patlabor221 | ohh no that's on even the beter mobo |
00:29.24 | Patlabor221 | look at the page |
00:29.25 | [STC]_creeperz | For a nice, yet affordable one? |
00:29.29 | Patlabor221 | 479 |
00:29.40 | [STC]_creeperz | 479? Plus 150 |
00:29.43 | Patlabor221 | it can go less for a durron |
00:29.55 | [STC]_creeperz | ~add 500 and 150 |
00:30.11 | [STC]_creeperz | No one made an "add" command? |
00:30.12 | Patlabor221 | that would be for a nice system |
00:30.21 | Patlabor221 | cus it's easy to do |
00:30.26 | doughecka | ~500 + 150 |
00:30.27 | | 650 |
00:30.27 | [STC]_creeperz | And a CD burner? |
00:30.33 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
00:30.34 | [STC]_creeperz | :) |
00:30.35 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
00:30.38 | Patlabor221 | you could get this one |
00:30.38 | Patlabor221 | http://www.rgpsales.com/system2.htm |
00:30.43 | Patlabor221 | and upgrade the video |
00:30.49 | Patlabor221 | and add XP |
00:31.07 | Patlabor221 | they come with compact flash readers too |
00:31.11 | Patlabor221 | we got those cheap |
00:31.33 | [STC]_creeperz | Flash readers? |
00:31.41 | Patlabor221 | tho we do use a slightly difrent mobo now |
00:31.48 | Noodleman_work | wow |
00:31.49 | Patlabor221 | and the drive is a bit larger |
00:31.52 | Patlabor221 | 40 instead of 20 |
00:31.59 | doughecka | Patlabor221: how much are those CF readers? |
00:32.08 | Noodleman_work | $369, and it's got 256 of ddr |
00:32.18 | Patlabor221 | doug proallby lke $5 |
00:32.25 | doughecka | wow |
00:32.29 | Patlabor221 | don't know if we have sold them individual |
00:32.33 | Patlabor221 | we get them for like $3 |
00:32.38 | doughecka | cool |
00:32.43 | Noodleman_work | i might have to get one of these :-) |
00:33.03 | Patlabor221 | noodle I think it's 349 now not 369 |
00:33.08 | Patlabor221 | we ran outa those mobos |
00:33.15 | Patlabor221 | so the prices changed |
00:33.28 | Patlabor221 | dosn't have a realtech card anymore ether |
00:33.38 | Noodleman_work | which card then? |
00:33.51 | Patlabor221 | it's on the mobo |
00:34.02 | Noodleman_work | which chipset? |
00:34.04 | Patlabor221 | it uses the ECS k7s5a mobo |
00:34.07 | [dmp] | ~ducatictf |
00:34.07 | Noodleman_work | that's what i meant |
00:34.09 | Patlabor221 | using an SIS chipset |
00:34.17 | Noodleman_work | network chipset? |
00:34.17 | [dmp] | ~ducatictf |
00:34.29 | Patlabor221 | it's part of the southbridge |
00:34.36 | Noodleman_work | ah |
00:34.46 | Patlabor221 | redhat installs fine on it, and finds the nic |
00:34.55 | Noodleman_work | kewl |
00:34.58 | Patlabor221 | nuku nuku is using that mobo right now |
00:35.01 | Noodleman_work | does it netboot, too? |
00:35.10 | Patlabor221 | it had options for that yes |
00:35.15 | Patlabor221 | tho I never used it |
00:35.16 | Noodleman_work | good :-) |
00:35.31 | Noodleman_work | i like to be able to do that, even tho i don't very often |
00:35.33 | Noodleman_work | hehe |
00:35.42 | Patlabor221 | the bios is rather neat, you can hit F8 at bios time and manualy pick a boot device |
00:35.55 | Noodleman_work | that's nice |
00:35.57 | Patlabor221 | with out going in and changing the bios setings |
00:36.06 | Patlabor221 | so like if you want to CD boot just one time |
00:36.14 | Noodleman_work | Swap 32x CD-ROM for 16x DVD-ROM w/PowerDVD software $0 |
00:36.18 | Noodleman_work | is that true? |
00:36.22 | Patlabor221 | yes |
00:36.25 | Patlabor221 | they cost the same for us |
00:36.31 | Noodleman_work | ah |
00:36.38 | Noodleman_work | as Patlabor221 says, keen |
00:36.39 | Noodleman_work | :-) |
00:37.10 | Patlabor221 | we also have like 170$ DVD-Rs |
00:37.35 | Patlabor221 | tho we do prefer to take paypall |
00:38.38 | Noodleman_work | brb |
00:38.38 | Patlabor221 | and if you wanted a intell system we can do those as well |
00:40.00 | doughecka | how about a PPC? |
00:40.01 | doughecka | :P |
00:44.28 | Patlabor221 | a G4 |
00:44.32 | Patlabor221 | we can problably get one |
00:44.50 | [STC]_creeperz | Jeff: How many USB ports does it come with? |
00:45.35 | Patlabor221 | 10 |
00:45.39 | Patlabor221 | I think |
00:45.46 | Patlabor221 | or maybe 8 |
00:45.48 | [STC]_creeperz | ...:D |
00:45.54 | doughecka | heh |
00:45.55 | [STC]_creeperz | 8 is more than enough! |
00:46.05 | Patlabor221 | it will have at least 4 hooked up |
00:46.06 | [STC]_creeperz | Back to dinner |
00:46.14 | [STC]_creeperz | 4 is good |
00:46.21 | Patlabor221 | it has more but they don't have enough ports in the case |
00:46.23 | [STC]_creeperz | I have 3 things I need manditory! |
00:46.27 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
00:46.33 | [STC]_creeperz | External? |
00:46.42 | Patlabor221 | yah 2 in front, 2 in back |
00:46.51 | [STC]_creeperz | Printer, Cable modem, Joystick |
00:46.53 | Patlabor221 | then some more insdie for like the card reader |
00:46.58 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh |
00:47.01 | [STC]_creeperz | G2G |
00:47.06 | [STC]_creeperz | FOOD! |
00:47.07 | Patlabor221 | you have a USB cable modem, I'm soo sorry |
00:47.10 | [STC]_creeperz | ~moo noodleman |
00:47.12 | | ACTION moos at noodleman |
00:47.15 | [STC]_creeperz | Heh |
00:47.28 | [STC]_creeperz | Make fun of Noodle because I'm eatin' cow tunite! |
00:48.00 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman_work (~tuckerm@mercury.coinet.com) |
00:48.40 | Patlabor221 | I feel so bad for anyone who has to use a USB cable or DSL modem |
00:48.50 | Noodleman_work | hehe |
00:49.06 | Patlabor221 | all the wonderfull DMA they are missing |
00:49.12 | Patlabor221 | and all the CPU they give up |
00:49.13 | doughecka | hehehe |
00:50.10 | Patlabor221 | "oh no, please, here kick my net connection and general performance square in the nutz" |
00:50.38 | Patlabor221 | proalby USB 1.0 too |
00:50.42 | doughecka | yup |
00:51.25 | Patlabor221 | I think the CF readers read, SM and some other media formats too |
00:51.28 | Patlabor221 | like 6 of them |
00:51.33 | Patlabor221 | SM and SD |
00:51.35 | Patlabor221 | and something else |
00:52.38 | Patlabor221 | wow, 3.2k a sec from readhat |
00:52.41 | Patlabor221 | that's some speed |
00:52.46 | Patlabor221 | ooooo 3.45 |
00:53.15 | doughecka | wow |
00:53.17 | doughecka | impressive |
00:53.24 | doughecka | I thought you upgraded from dialup |
00:53.24 | Patlabor221 | 3.5 baby! |
00:53.32 | Patlabor221 | so did I |
00:53.43 | Noodleman_work | dialup r0x0rZ! |
00:53.44 | Patlabor221 | this is on the T1 |
00:53.48 | doughecka | hahah |
00:54.02 | Noodleman_work | i could uncap my cable modem and have a T1 :-P |
00:54.04 | Patlabor221 | think maybe the rest of the world wants redhat 9 as well |
00:54.22 | Patlabor221 | but then "theman" would be all up in ya |
00:54.24 | doughecka | Noodleman_work: you got the bail for jail? |
00:54.37 | Noodleman_work | i could uncap my cable modem and maybe have a qhole DS3 :-D |
00:55.01 | doughecka | haha |
00:55.09 | Noodleman_work | i found out that uncapping a cable modem is a very trivial exercise |
00:55.12 | Noodleman_work | :-) |
00:55.21 | Patlabor221 | in my bathroom |
00:55.49 | doughecka | in the toilet even |
00:55.59 | Patlabor221 | no that's just silly |
00:56.18 | Noodleman_work | everytime someone downloads a big file would be a shocking experience |
00:56.22 | Noodleman_work | :-) |
00:56.35 | Patlabor221 | and don't ask what the flusher does |
00:56.39 | Noodleman_work | no one likes my dumb jokes :-( |
00:56.56 | doughecka | lol |
00:59.54 | Patlabor221 | hmmmm I wonder if I send scanline a PCI GF2MX if he will set up some sort of VCS for me :) |
01:00.06 | Noodleman_work | what's VCS? |
01:00.16 | Noodleman_work | ~dict VCS |
01:00.17 | Patlabor221 | Version Controll System |
01:00.20 | Noodleman_work | ah |
01:00.21 | Patlabor221 | liek CVS |
01:00.27 | Patlabor221 | or Subversion |
01:00.38 | Noodleman_work | hehe |
01:00.48 | Noodleman_work | i can set up a cvs server for ya |
01:01.05 | Patlabor221 | I have the server, just don't know how to set it up |
01:01.14 | Patlabor221 | I'd like it on bakadigital. |
01:01.19 | Patlabor221 | read the docs |
01:01.23 | Patlabor221 | and didn't get them |
01:01.25 | Noodleman_work | http://www.tldp.org/ |
01:02.16 | Patlabor221 | ohh I found full on tutorials |
01:02.41 | Patlabor221 | just they seemed to asume that I knew more about general unix admin then I do now |
01:02.52 | Patlabor221 | and that page is ugly :) |
01:07.50 | Patlabor221 | anyone know scanline's email? |
01:08.43 | doughecka | hmm |
01:08.52 | doughecka | something@picogui.com |
01:08.57 | Patlabor221 | I found him |
01:11.48 | doughecka | ooh |
01:11.51 | Patlabor221 | and a TNt |
01:12.00 | doughecka | a tnt even if I had to |
01:12.11 | Patlabor221 | tnt is not PCI |
01:12.16 | doughecka | oh? |
01:12.19 | doughecka | any of them pci? |
01:12.21 | Patlabor221 | one GF goes to scanline |
01:12.27 | Patlabor221 | other stays as backup |
01:12.41 | doughecka | darn |
01:13.16 | [STC]_creeperz | Mmmm |
01:13.24 | doughecka | hah |
01:13.26 | doughecka | good luck |
01:13.37 | [STC]_creeperz | I just ate Noodleman's forbidden food |
01:13.50 | Patlabor221 | hmmm and maybe I can use the nic as leverage to get noodleman to help me set up a CVS server using SSH :) |
01:13.51 | [STC]_creeperz | Forget I said that |
01:14.12 | doughecka | hh |
01:14.13 | doughecka | hah |
01:14.21 | doughecka | send me something so I can do something for you... |
01:14.25 | doughecka | like... um.... |
01:14.27 | doughecka | dunno |
01:14.29 | Patlabor221 | ? |
01:14.36 | [STC]_creeperz | A useless jpeg? |
01:14.49 | [STC]_creeperz | A virus? |
01:14.57 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I could make a game programing contest, and the prize would be something form the bin. |
01:15.07 | [STC]_creeperz | Ahhh! |
01:15.14 | Patlabor221 | the bin holds many secrets |
01:15.29 | Patlabor221 | look a ppt zip drive |
01:15.37 | doughecka | bah |
01:15.42 | doughecka | zip drives |
01:16.18 | Patlabor221 | huh? they are cheap |
01:16.26 | Patlabor221 | well zip100's are |
01:17.14 | doughecka | yea, but cd-rws work better |
01:17.16 | doughecka | and hold more |
01:17.23 | Patlabor221 | but are slower |
01:17.34 | Patlabor221 | tho they do cost less |
01:17.44 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
01:17.49 | Patlabor221 | cds I mean |
01:17.55 | doughecka | yea |
01:17.55 | [STC]_creeperz | Yes |
01:17.58 | Patlabor221 | a burner is the same price as a zip |
01:18.03 | [STC]_creeperz | Really? |
01:18.09 | Patlabor221 | bout %30 |
01:18.13 | Patlabor221 | $30 |
01:18.20 | doughecka | a 48x16x48 is 20 |
01:18.22 | doughecka | with a rebate |
01:20.34 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (~timr@66.147.151.194) |
01:21.47 | doughecka | 'lo |
01:24.02 | [STC]_creeperz | ? |
01:25.06 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, How are you is <reply> Just fine, how about you? |
01:25.08 | | I think you lost me on that one, [STC]_creeperz |
01:25.17 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot How are you is <reply> Just fine, how about you |
01:25.18 | | I think you lost me on that one, [STC]_creeperz |
01:25.21 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
01:25.26 | [STC]_creeperz | Why won't he do it? |
01:25.58 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, how are you |
01:25.58 | | [STC]_creeperz: just great |
01:26.02 | [STC]_creeperz | Ohhhh |
01:26.07 | Noodleman | moo |
01:26.08 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, want some botsmack? |
01:26.09 | | [STC]_creeperz: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
01:26.17 | Noodleman | ~botsmack |
01:26.17 | | sure, wanna snort some with me? |
01:26.21 | Noodleman | hehe |
01:26.23 | [STC]_creeperz | Heh |
01:26.32 | [STC]_creeperz | Stupid druggie :-) |
01:27.10 | [STC]_creeperz | There's a weird thing on On TV, on Unsolved Mysteries. There is a thing on Exercism! |
01:29.11 | Patlabor221 | exorcisms can be hard, sometimes you need a stake |
01:29.50 | [STC]_creeperz | And a mallet |
01:30.00 | Patlabor221 | pfffft naw |
01:30.03 | Patlabor221 | only if you are weak |
01:30.33 | Patlabor221 | you think they hold still while you use a mallet? |
01:30.58 | Patlabor221 | both of those exist |
01:31.15 | Patlabor221 | tho the bz tank is non manifold so it may not work well |
01:31.26 | [STC]_creeperz | 3D Printing software? So you can make a 3D image, with length, width, and height? |
01:31.38 | [STC]_creeperz | Yes :-) |
01:31.42 | Patlabor221 | yes, and unfold it so it can be cut out |
01:31.49 | [STC]_creeperz | Ohh |
01:31.51 | Patlabor221 | and fiolded and glued |
01:31.59 | [STC]_creeperz | And cut and paste! |
01:32.04 | Patlabor221 | yes |
01:32.17 | Patlabor221 | or some do outlines that you cut out and glue in stacks |
01:32.36 | [STC]_creeperz | Yes |
01:32.38 | doughecka | you can also get a device that can print out 3d stuff |
01:32.38 | Patlabor221 | or you could get an STL machine |
01:32.48 | Patlabor221 | or a CNC |
01:32.53 | doughecka | give it a few hours and you have a little tank |
01:32.53 | [STC]_creeperz | ...Doug, I mentioned that earlier ;-) |
01:32.54 | Patlabor221 | and some aluminum |
01:33.14 | [STC]_creeperz | And little plasma balls |
01:33.22 | Patlabor221 | plasma? |
01:33.33 | [STC]_creeperz | That's what BZFlag's bullets look like |
01:33.39 | Patlabor221 | I don't think they use superheated gas, or human blood part |
01:33.52 | Patlabor221 | you know those are just flat planes right? |
01:33.54 | [STC]_creeperz | Balls that are not affected by inertia, gravity, ect. |
01:34.03 | [STC]_creeperz | :) |
01:34.35 | [STC]_creeperz | Plasma is the clear stuff in you blood...no, I think it's yellow... |
01:34.48 | Patlabor221 | clear |
01:34.53 | [STC]_creeperz | Ahh |
01:35.21 | [STC]_creeperz | Then after I pick off a scab, let it bleed, wipe it clean, and that's that clear stuff that comes back after a while? |
01:35.46 | Patlabor221 | dude, thats nasty |
01:35.53 | [STC]_creeperz | What? |
01:35.56 | Noodleman | hehe |
01:36.02 | [STC]_creeperz | :-] |
01:36.51 | [STC]_creeperz | The bishop of the Huron Ward's LDS church got harassing phone calls at midnight like 4 days a go... |
01:36.58 | Patlabor221 | why does lighting have to make brain hurt? |
01:37.02 | *** join/#bzflag done[4] (~peterpan@adsl-155-59-169.ard.bellsouth.net) |
01:37.08 | *** part/#bzflag done[4] (~peterpan@adsl-155-59-169.ard.bellsouth.net) |
01:37.13 | Noodleman | cya |
01:37.15 | Noodleman | :-P |
01:37.18 | [STC]_creeperz | That was when it ended, 4 days ago |
01:37.25 | [STC]_creeperz | |-) |
01:37.39 | [STC]_creeperz | _| |
01:37.54 | [STC]_creeperz | I see |_| ! |
01:38.06 | Patlabor221 | so you are saying you harass your bishop? |
01:38.12 | [STC]_creeperz | No |
01:38.17 | [STC]_creeperz | Someone was... |
01:38.28 | [STC]_creeperz | Not me |
01:38.41 | Patlabor221 | then why the |-) |
01:38.48 | Patlabor221 | that's a sceeming face if I ever saw one |
01:38.54 | [STC]_creeperz | ? |
01:39.15 | Patlabor221 | or a cromagnon |
01:39.27 | [STC]_creeperz | Jeff |
01:39.33 | [STC]_creeperz | Wanna see my new game? |
01:39.39 | Patlabor221 | sure |
01:39.57 | [STC]_creeperz | Accept |
01:40.34 | [STC]_creeperz | It's pretty neat-0! |
01:40.41 | [STC]_creeperz | Noodleman even liked it :-) |
01:40.49 | Patlabor221 | noodle, do you think you could set up a CVS server for me on Bakadigital, if I got you a ssh account? |
01:40.58 | Noodleman | :-) |
01:41.03 | [STC]_creeperz | Heh |
01:41.09 | Noodleman | Patlabor221: probably |
01:41.13 | Noodleman | i'd need r00t |
01:41.15 | [STC]_creeperz | I think I'm having de-va-vu |
01:41.21 | [STC]_creeperz | I think I'm having de-va-vu |
01:41.22 | Patlabor221 | not a problem |
01:41.25 | Noodleman | [STC]_creeperz :-P |
01:41.33 | [STC]_creeperz | ;-) |
01:41.57 | Noodleman | i could do that |
01:42.00 | [STC]_creeperz | Tim is not op? |
01:42.11 | [STC]_creeperz | Imposter? |
01:42.17 | [STC]_creeperz | Or real Tim? |
01:42.28 | captain_proton | ug |
01:42.30 | [STC]_creeperz | Check out THAT game Jeff ;-) |
01:42.58 | [STC]_creeperz | Noodleman: I sent him the one I sent you :-p |
01:43.12 | Patlabor221 | umm it runs and quits |
01:43.20 | [STC]_creeperz | Look at the top left |
01:43.33 | [STC]_creeperz | Run it again |
01:43.37 | Patlabor221 | didn't see anything |
01:43.38 | [STC]_creeperz | And look at the top left |
01:43.44 | Patlabor221 | just flashes black |
01:43.45 | [STC]_creeperz | Try it again... |
01:43.51 | Patlabor221 | I've done it 3 times |
01:43.55 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
01:44.51 | [STC]_creeperz | Umm, it works |
01:44.58 | [STC]_creeperz | It's WAY up in the left corner |
01:45.23 | [STC]_creeperz | Noodleman: It worked for you, right? |
01:45.33 | Noodleman | yup |
01:45.44 | [STC]_creeperz | It said "The Phrase" right? |
01:45.52 | Patlabor221 | why does it quit right away? |
01:46.02 | [STC]_creeperz | I wanted it to |
01:46.23 | Patlabor221 | why not have it stay around a while |
01:46.25 | [STC]_creeperz | I guess I could get it to stay open by puting in the "loop" variable at the end, right? |
01:46.30 | Patlabor221 | like till a mouse click |
01:46.37 | Patlabor221 | or a key press |
01:46.43 | Patlabor221 | I don't remember any basic |
01:47.03 | [STC]_creeperz | Good, we're equally challenged! |
01:47.04 | Patlabor221 | in DB? |
01:47.11 | Patlabor221 | why would I? |
01:47.13 | [STC]_creeperz | Yes |
01:47.16 | DB7654321 | Hey -- stay out of this DB :P |
01:47.23 | [STC]_creeperz | ? |
01:47.25 | [STC]_creeperz | :) |
01:47.26 | [STC]_creeperz | Heh |
01:47.29 | [STC]_creeperz | LOL!! |
01:47.30 | Patlabor221 | I use real langs |
01:47.44 | [STC]_creeperz | You told me to use it! |
01:47.55 | Patlabor221 | cus it's easyer to learn then C |
01:47.58 | Patlabor221 | and does all the game stuff |
01:47.59 | [STC]_creeperz | And DB is a real language, and he's comprised of number |
01:48.03 | [STC]_creeperz | numbers* |
01:48.13 | Patlabor221 | I know more then you, so I use better langages |
01:48.17 | [STC]_creeperz | ;-) |
01:48.20 | DB7654321 | hehe |
01:48.21 | [STC]_creeperz | Ahh |
01:48.45 | Patlabor221 | cap I found a card for scanline, need anything else from the bin? |
01:49.04 | [STC]_creeperz | MORE RAM! |
01:49.16 | Patlabor221 | I don't have cap's type of ram in the bin |
01:49.26 | doughecka | :) |
01:49.35 | Patlabor221 | don't have any dimms |
01:49.41 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: what is in the bin? |
01:49.42 | Patlabor221 | actualy waiting for more to get in |
01:49.43 | doughecka | no ddr? |
01:49.44 | [STC]_creeperz | Send to me :) |
01:49.46 | doughecka | darn |
01:49.55 | Patlabor221 | there are many secret things in the bin |
01:50.06 | Patlabor221 | it's kinda a grab bag thing |
01:50.31 | Patlabor221 | like little cookies from japan |
01:50.36 | doughecka | how old? |
01:50.48 | Patlabor221 | dono |
01:50.56 | doughecka | ugh |
01:53.08 | Patlabor221 | a gateway recovery CD version 1.4 |
01:53.24 | Patlabor221 | the soundtrack to "tank girl" |
01:53.40 | Patlabor221 | in the case to DefLeppard "hysteria" |
01:53.58 | Patlabor221 | warcraft 3 |
01:54.06 | [STC]_creeperz | <PROTECTED> |
01:54.09 | [STC]_creeperz | Cool* |
01:54.23 | Patlabor221 | a compost manual |
01:54.43 | doughecka | hmm |
01:54.46 | doughecka | war craft would be cool |
01:54.59 | Patlabor221 | diamond steal 3d 2000 drivers for windows 95, 3.1x, and NT 3.51 |
01:55.28 | doughecka | err |
01:55.30 | doughecka | wee |
01:55.40 | Patlabor221 | another compot manual |
01:55.46 | [STC]_creeperz | I fart in it's general direction! |
01:55.52 | [STC]_creeperz | I un-clog my nose on it! |
01:55.55 | doughecka | compost? |
01:56.02 | doughecka | what ever for? |
01:56.57 | Patlabor221 | it's a language |
01:57.12 | Patlabor221 | have like 5 difrent versions of the manual |
01:57.23 | doughecka | oh |
01:57.25 | Patlabor221 | techincaly it's my language too |
01:57.27 | doughecka | not compost compost |
01:57.34 | Patlabor221 | no not poop |
01:57.49 | doughecka | ah |
01:58.17 | Patlabor221 | the GDC 2001 confrence procedings |
01:58.27 | Patlabor221 | it has heft |
01:58.33 | doughecka | lol |
01:59.08 | Patlabor221 | VS.net final beta 2003 |
01:59.16 | Patlabor221 | it also has heft |
01:59.19 | Patlabor221 | in the data dept. |
01:59.33 | Patlabor221 | took 2 dvds |
01:59.40 | doughecka | hmm, nah I can download that |
01:59.55 | Patlabor221 | what you gonna put it on tho? |
02:00.10 | Patlabor221 | one part is a 1.8 gig exe |
02:00.26 | doughecka | oh my |
02:00.29 | doughecka | :) |
02:00.39 | Patlabor221 | the other part is a 900 meg exe |
02:00.43 | Patlabor221 | expands ot over 4.5 gigs |
02:00.55 | doughecka | sheesh |
02:01.15 | Patlabor221 | ok time to get my butt home |
02:01.22 | Patlabor221 | and ponder dinner |
02:01.45 | doughecka | heh |
02:01.50 | doughecka | sushi |
02:02.01 | Patlabor221 | proalby hot pork buns |
02:02.22 | doughecka | hmm |
02:02.26 | doughecka | sounds better |
02:02.41 | Patlabor221 | both are good |
02:05.57 | *** part/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@208.48.199.214) |
02:06.13 | [STC]_creeperz | NOOOOOOOO!! |
02:08.08 | captain_proton | ? |
02:11.44 | Noodleman | what command do i use to check out bzflag from cvs? |
02:12.24 | doughecka | should enter it into ibot |
02:12.34 | Noodleman | i thought it was... |
02:13.54 | captain_proton | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag |
02:14.28 | [STC]_creeperz | ~cvs |
02:14.28 | | rumour has it, cvs is Concurrent Versions System and is at http://www.handhelds.org/sources.html or at http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ and at http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2002/01/03/cvs_intro.html and http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2002/01/17/cvsadmin.html and http://www.red-bean.com/cvsbook/ |
02:14.39 | doughecka | ~bzflagcvs is <reply> cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag |
02:14.39 | | doughecka: okay |
02:14.49 | Noodleman | thx |
02:18.58 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-64-167-77-45.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
02:19.17 | Patlabor221 | ahhh dinner is a cookin |
02:19.46 | [STC]_creeperz | Cool |
02:20.11 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you might like what we cooked last night: |
02:20.20 | Patlabor221 | what was it? |
02:20.32 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: http://128.138.2.23:3000/thai_peanut_noodles |
02:20.34 | [STC]_creeperz | Something tells me he was already typing and something long! |
02:21.13 | *** join/#bzflag fiberchunks (~fiberchun@237.14.252.64.snet.net) |
02:21.14 | Patlabor221 | looks good |
02:21.20 | captain_proton | was quite tasty |
02:21.27 | fiberchunks | howdy, howdy |
02:21.31 | [STC]_creeperz | Nello |
02:21.34 | Patlabor221 | just making steamed pork buns tongiht |
02:21.37 | captain_proton | we splurged on the red pepper and it was acceptably spicy |
02:21.37 | [STC]_creeperz | Hello* |
02:21.37 | Patlabor221 | sup fiber |
02:21.56 | doughecka | captain_proton: bah, my dad can make better |
02:22.01 | fiberchunks | nada, whaz goin on here? |
02:22.08 | fiberchunks | working on my R/C car |
02:22.10 | captain_proton | doughecka: how can you judge that if you've never had this? |
02:22.27 | fiberchunks | jumbalaya? |
02:22.31 | Patlabor221 | ohh what one? |
02:22.34 | [STC]_creeperz | captain_proton: He thinks he know everything... |
02:22.39 | Patlabor221 | noodle what is the module name? |
02:22.41 | fiberchunks | Traxxas Nitro Rustler |
02:22.42 | [STC]_creeperz | http://128.138.2.23:3000/thai_peanut_noodles |
02:22.47 | [STC]_creeperz | fiber ^ |
02:23.28 | fiberchunks | regretfully there's nowhere near my house that makes any :( just up at work |
02:23.56 | [STC]_creeperz | What are those Chili Ramen Noodles classified as? |
02:24.16 | doughecka | fiberchunks: cook come |
02:24.22 | doughecka | some* |
02:24.25 | [STC]_creeperz | "Chili Ramen Noodles" |
02:24.25 | doughecka | RC car? |
02:24.31 | [STC]_creeperz | Remote Control |
02:24.34 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221: /me is getting an R/C chopper in the not to distant future |
02:24.37 | doughecka | radio control |
02:24.43 | [STC]_creeperz | Awesome |
02:24.43 | doughecka | cool |
02:24.44 | Patlabor221 | enver had a traxxas |
02:24.52 | [STC]_creeperz | Radio= remote to an extent |
02:24.55 | Patlabor221 | just little electrics |
02:25.23 | Patlabor221 | moslty Tamiya's and Associateds |
02:25.27 | fiberchunks | I need a mill and lathe to make some of the suspension members more beefy -- they break constantly (which I'm sure traxxas intended as a side revenue) |
02:25.43 | [STC]_creeperz | Heh |
02:25.47 | [STC]_creeperz | More than likely! |
02:25.47 | Patlabor221 | posibly |
02:25.49 | fiberchunks | injection molded crap :( |
02:25.54 | [STC]_creeperz | That's what I might do |
02:26.05 | Patlabor221 | well or at least to leave way for 3rd party vendors |
02:26.10 | Patlabor221 | it's common |
02:26.15 | fiberchunks | yah |
02:26.18 | [STC]_creeperz | Axis of E [ENRON] vil |
02:26.42 | [STC]_creeperz | Eooohhhh |
02:26.45 | Patlabor221 | back in the day |
02:26.51 | fiberchunks | I don't feel like spending 50 for front and rear aluminum suspension members (so I might as well get the tools to do it with ;) ) |
02:27.04 | fiberchunks | yeah -- body pan is aluminum |
02:27.12 | fiberchunks | rest is plastic |
02:27.16 | [STC]_creeperz | Lol |
02:27.19 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
02:27.29 | [STC]_creeperz | My dad had an R/C Racer |
02:27.33 | [STC]_creeperz | Pretty cool |
02:27.39 | [STC]_creeperz | He installed a parachute |
02:27.55 | [STC]_creeperz | Hits a ramp, pushes a button, glides down safely |
02:28.08 | Patlabor221 | well I didn't have to buy them |
02:28.23 | Patlabor221 | my father used to be a salesman for a hobby distributor |
02:28.33 | Patlabor221 | just have a Hornet now |
02:28.37 | fiberchunks | lemme see, I've had: grasshopper, one that looked like a rally racer and is quite rare today (can't remember the name), and various assorted others -- loved the grasshopper, but I like nitro vehicles more now ) |
02:28.37 | Patlabor221 | needs a new esc |
02:28.45 | [STC]_creeperz | My dad has always been a trucker or an auto-mechanic |
02:28.57 | Patlabor221 | grasshoper had the same frame as hornet |
02:29.21 | captain_proton | yay for listening to Dr. Worm loudly |
02:29.30 | [STC]_creeperz | I never heard of it |
02:29.31 | Patlabor221 | usualy just came with the smaller motor |
02:30.29 | fiberchunks | :) |
02:30.49 | [STC]_creeperz | LOL!! |
02:30.53 | doughecka | with cameras |
02:31.23 | [STC]_creeperz | Fiber: That would be awesome! |
02:31.39 | fiberchunks | ooo, wait, this is #bzflag -- I'd like a 1/4 scale working M1 abrams (with arms, of course) |
02:31.50 | Patlabor221 | it can be done |
02:31.51 | [STC]_creeperz | Heh |
02:31.53 | [STC]_creeperz | That works! |
02:32.01 | doughecka | hmm |
02:32.02 | Patlabor221 | 1/4, that large? |
02:32.11 | doughecka | how about a 1/4 scale tank that I can ride in |
02:32.19 | [STC]_creeperz | 1/16 is a good size if you want to piss someone off |
02:32.25 | Patlabor221 | http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljpage.cgi?KNMDC104S |
02:32.30 | Patlabor221 | you need that fiber |
02:32.51 | fiberchunks | cool :) |
02:33.05 | [STC]_creeperz | Japenese |
02:33.24 | Patlabor221 | it shoots other tanks |
02:33.37 | fiberchunks | yeah, just reading that -- that's sweet |
02:34.02 | Patlabor221 | put mini cams on them |
02:34.08 | Patlabor221 | and hook them to the internet |
02:34.22 | Patlabor221 | "real" bzflag |
02:34.38 | [STC]_creeperz | AWESOME!! |
02:34.46 | fiberchunks | actually, Patlabor221, I'm surprised you and proton haven't done that yet ;) |
02:34.58 | [STC]_creeperz | Same thought |
02:35.00 | Patlabor221 | if I was I woldn't use those |
02:35.01 | [STC]_creeperz | *s |
02:35.10 | [STC]_creeperz | Hegh |
02:35.10 | Noodleman | Patlabor221: you can checkin and checkout through ssh, i'm still trying to figure out anonymous access |
02:35.12 | [STC]_creeperz | Heh* |
02:35.19 | Patlabor221 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/5776/ |
02:35.36 | Patlabor221 | with http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/59eb/ |
02:35.56 | Patlabor221 | and some sort of induction charging system |
02:36.19 | [STC]_creeperz | Awesome |
02:36.31 | Patlabor221 | just add money |
02:37.12 | doughecka | hm, they have those indection charging systems now |
02:37.16 | doughecka | I read it someplace |
02:37.31 | Patlabor221 | yeah like since the 30s |
02:37.47 | [STC]_creeperz | http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/action/large/20fb59e.jpg |
02:37.56 | Patlabor221 | Neekoliii Tessla |
02:37.58 | doughecka | no, like a real thing that works with cell phones and pdas and stuff |
02:38.03 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
02:38.07 | Patlabor221 | some do it |
02:38.17 | Patlabor221 | that's how some EVs are charged too |
02:38.47 | Patlabor221 | tho this would have to be in the floor of the arena |
02:38.52 | Patlabor221 | and no jumping |
02:39.00 | doughecka | bah |
02:39.03 | doughecka | no jumping? |
02:39.07 | doughecka | how about CTF? |
02:39.16 | Patlabor221 | that would be hard :) |
02:39.21 | Patlabor221 | reemeber everyone has lazer |
02:39.40 | Patlabor221 | and lag |
02:39.45 | Patlabor221 | lots of lag |
02:40.10 | doughecka | hm |
02:40.12 | doughecka | lag? |
02:40.20 | Patlabor221 | think about what would have to happen |
02:40.29 | doughecka | bah |
02:40.42 | Patlabor221 | would take a bit for it all to work |
02:40.51 | Patlabor221 | since your sending lots of video |
02:41.15 | doughecka | yea |
02:41.23 | doughecka | and tanks dont blow up |
02:41.54 | Patlabor221 | lots of things dont'' happen |
02:41.55 | Patlabor221 | no radar |
02:41.58 | fiberchunks | my 5 year is playing GTA 4 and is kickin butt ;) |
02:42.10 | Patlabor221 | LOL |
02:42.14 | fiberchunks | s/year/year old |
02:42.42 | [STC]_creeperz | Vice City is awesome |
02:42.55 | fiberchunks | got the hunter -- which is a lovely vehicle |
02:43.06 | [STC]_creeperz | Chopper? |
02:43.31 | fiberchunks | ROFLMAO -- he was just smackin a cop and saying ---- aaaaaa ,you wanna piece of me? LOL -- what a kid |
02:43.38 | fiberchunks | yeah -- apache |
02:43.46 | Patlabor221 | well lookit that, cvs ness |
02:44.03 | [STC]_creeperz | Maybe make an online game? Maybe an online tank game? We can call it... Hmmm...BZFlag! |
02:44.54 | captain_proton | MORE TEA |
02:45.21 | [STC]_creeperz | It* |
02:46.08 | [STC]_creeperz | Lol, how can you have a CTF with those things? Put hooks on the front? |
02:46.27 | Patlabor221 | magents |
02:46.34 | [STC]_creeperz | Ahh |
02:46.38 | [STC]_creeperz | How do you drop the flag? |
02:46.44 | Patlabor221 | EMP |
02:46.49 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
02:47.03 | [STC]_creeperz | Kill yourself and surrounding enemies while you're at it! |
02:47.17 | [STC]_creeperz | That should be a Flag |
02:47.20 | [STC]_creeperz | EMP |
02:47.31 | [STC]_creeperz | "Firing kills all in the surrounding radius |
02:47.51 | doughecka | no... gM?> |
02:47.56 | [STC]_creeperz | ? |
02:48.12 | [STC]_creeperz | Watchyu B? |
02:48.48 | doughecka | hmm |
02:48.49 | Patlabor221 | what would be the fun in that flag, if not for a giggling 13 year old? |
02:48.50 | doughecka | brb |
02:49.18 | Patlabor221 | well scremers is now in a VCS thanks to mr noodle |
02:49.42 | Noodleman | still working on the pserver for anonymous access |
02:49.53 | Patlabor221 | well ssh is workin just fine |
02:49.58 | Patlabor221 | how do I add users? |
02:50.00 | Noodleman | yup |
02:50.13 | Noodleman | add a user and put them in the cvs group |
02:50.19 | Patlabor221 | keen |
02:50.45 | Patlabor221 | should make a bzmaps folder too |
02:50.59 | Patlabor221 | and I'll put bzedit up there |
02:51.27 | Noodleman | for screamers, i made the vendortag be bakadigital |
02:51.31 | Noodleman | is that fine? |
02:51.36 | Patlabor221 | sure |
02:51.41 | Patlabor221 | what the hell is a vendor tag? |
02:51.48 | Noodleman | good question :-) |
02:52.04 | Noodleman | the revision tag is v0_0 |
02:52.29 | Noodleman | that's for if you want to do branches and stuff |
02:52.43 | Patlabor221 | j |
02:52.45 | Patlabor221 | k |
02:52.50 | Patlabor221 | being right next to j |
02:52.53 | Noodleman | j/k :-) |
02:53.13 | Patlabor221 | branches are for whusssys |
02:53.22 | Noodleman | :-) |
02:53.23 | Patlabor221 | wonder if there is a way to do a CVS mirror |
02:53.32 | Noodleman | sure |
02:53.41 | Patlabor221 | like have it get 1.7 from SF every night |
02:53.47 | Patlabor221 | and serve it up there |
02:53.51 | doughecka | and compile it too |
02:53.52 | doughecka | :) |
02:53.52 | Patlabor221 | just for checkout |
02:53.55 | Noodleman | just have it update every hour or so |
02:54.00 | Patlabor221 | it could not build windows |
02:54.03 | Noodleman | cvs up |
02:54.07 | doughecka | linux at least |
02:54.09 | Patlabor221 | just to have a second place for it |
02:54.18 | Patlabor221 | for when SF goes down |
02:55.19 | Patlabor221 | hmmm there would be a way to have it make windows |
02:55.22 | Patlabor221 | and build the installer |
02:55.31 | doughecka | would be really nice |
02:55.35 | Noodleman | task scheduler? |
02:55.44 | doughecka | get cvs without having VC installed |
02:55.45 | Patlabor221 | naw php or asp |
02:55.57 | Patlabor221 | cvs is not tied to VC |
02:56.10 | Patlabor221 | but I could have it do a command line build on windows |
02:56.24 | doughecka | cool |
02:56.34 | Patlabor221 | CVS on lin would update |
02:56.45 | Patlabor221 | wget a page on the windows web server |
02:56.58 | Patlabor221 | the windows page would kick off a ftpget of the source |
02:57.05 | Patlabor221 | then a nmake |
02:57.11 | Patlabor221 | then build the install |
02:57.13 | Noodleman | kewl |
02:57.18 | doughecka | hmm |
02:57.22 | Patlabor221 | and copy to a web dir |
02:57.28 | Patlabor221 | while lin makes and tarballs |
02:57.36 | doughecka | cool |
02:57.38 | Patlabor221 | would be something to look into later |
02:57.40 | Noodleman | sounds cool |
02:57.58 | Patlabor221 | if I left the mac on it may be able to do the same, asuming mac builds still work |
02:58.10 | doughecka | HAH |
02:58.29 | Patlabor221 | tho I don't think hourly's would be needed |
02:58.32 | Patlabor221 | just nightlys |
02:58.46 | Patlabor221 | cvs could update hourly |
02:59.13 | Patlabor221 | or subscribe it to the SF list and update on a commit |
03:00.02 | doughecka | that would be smarter |
03:01.36 | Patlabor221 | but harder |
03:05.33 | Patlabor221 | has to be a way to get this thing to reember my password |
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03:06.37 | doughecka | thanks for joining |
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03:09.03 | doughecka | thanks for joining |
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03:14.50 | GenRommel | chestal! |
03:15.14 | GenRommel | somebody calling himself paul is abusing ducati right now |
03:15.23 | GenRommel | cheat client with extra speed |
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03:16.51 | Noodleman | Patlabor221: anonymous cvs access works! |
03:17.11 | Patlabor221 | schweeet, thanks |
03:17.43 | Noodleman | crap, i thought it did |
03:17.46 | Noodleman | :-) |
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03:19.47 | Noodleman | haha, doug |
03:19.50 | dougheckaa | woohaa |
03:19.53 | Noodleman | we know who you are |
03:20.10 | dougheckaa | :) |
03:20.22 | dougheckaa | knoppix 3.2 is pretty cool |
03:20.31 | dougheckaa | all aqua, with transparent menus and stuff |
03:20.39 | TimRiker | no bzflag in the base image though. |
03:20.49 | dougheckaa | no :( |
03:21.00 | dougheckaa | but I did find a gaming knoppix that did have bzflag |
03:21.02 | Noodleman | kewl |
03:21.03 | dougheckaa | but its older |
03:21.37 | dougheckaa | includes wine too |
03:22.13 | dougheckaa | ooh, xeyes |
03:22.50 | dougheckaa | and I can make a home dir on a usb device :) |
03:22.58 | dougheckaa | so I can carry around a whole system with me |
03:23.33 | dougheckaa | ooh |
03:24.19 | Patlabor221 | but must figure out the lighting stuff first |
03:24.32 | dougheckaa | Noodleman: wow, you have terminal serives running someplace? |
03:24.40 | Noodleman | i think so |
03:24.56 | dougheckaa | erg, nevermind |
03:25.00 | dougheckaa | its for vnc |
03:25.05 | Noodleman | ah |
03:25.14 | Noodleman | portscanning me, eh? |
03:25.17 | Patlabor221 | VNC roxorz |
03:25.24 | Noodleman | scan my network and DIE! |
03:25.27 | Noodleman | :-) |
03:25.35 | dougheckaa | no |
03:25.36 | Patlabor221 | well all but the file extension |
03:25.37 | larsl | ~towers |
03:26.00 | dougheckaa | I thought this was a terminal services client |
03:26.14 | dougheckaa | try sshing in |
03:26.23 | dougheckaa | knoppix user and pass is the same |
03:26.24 | dougheckaa | :) |
03:26.25 | Noodleman | sshing in where? |
03:26.29 | dougheckaa | me |
03:26.33 | dougheckaa | heck.no-ip.com |
03:26.34 | Patlabor221 | ip? |
03:26.39 | dougheckaa | umm |
03:27.02 | dougheckaa | dunno |
03:27.23 | dougheckaa | oooh, the konsole is transparent |
03:27.56 | Patlabor221 | ssh no go, you have port 22 open? |
03:28.05 | dougheckaa | oh drats, it cant find a key |
03:28.05 | Patlabor221 | and is sshd running? |
03:28.15 | dougheckaa | it was |
03:28.22 | dougheckaa | and I have all ports open |
03:28.23 | dougheckaa | oh wel |
03:30.34 | Patlabor221 | hmm where is there a BZFS that is in daylight? |
03:30.40 | Patlabor221 | or does it use my local time? |
03:31.23 | dougheckaa | dunno |
03:32.15 | Patlabor221 | need to see shadows |
03:32.27 | dougheckaa | press + or - to change the time |
03:32.29 | dougheckaa | I think |
03:32.33 | dougheckaa | hold it down |
03:32.37 | dougheckaa | works for me |
03:33.23 | Patlabor221 | keypad? |
03:33.38 | dougheckaa | hmm, maybe |
03:33.44 | dougheckaa | been awhile since I tried |
03:35.25 | dougheckaa | spooky, download an exe, and it asks me if I want to run it, or save it. |
03:35.30 | Noodleman | Patlabor221: ok, anonymous checkout *does* work :-) |
03:35.48 | Patlabor221 | flood from noodle? |
03:36.36 | Noodleman | i'm checking out |
03:36.41 | Patlabor221 | hmmm wonder if bz uses a point for the sun or just a vector |
03:36.47 | dougheckaa | wow |
03:36.55 | dougheckaa | subspace installer worked |
03:37.11 | dougheckaa | hah, I got the icon on my desktop |
03:37.21 | dougheckaa | oh bah, dint work |
03:38.00 | Patlabor221 | hmm got a flood from doug too |
03:38.08 | Patlabor221 | you 2 must be bots |
03:38.11 | dougheckaa | I dint do anything |
03:38.13 | Noodleman | do you know if screamers compiles on linux? |
03:38.24 | Patlabor221 | it should |
03:38.35 | captain_proton | at least if Patlabor221 didn't make it all fugged up |
03:38.39 | Noodleman | i'll have to try it then |
03:38.42 | Noodleman | hehe |
03:38.59 | Patlabor221 | well you need fmod 3.6.1 |
03:39.09 | Patlabor221 | and that version of source I posted does make |
03:39.15 | Patlabor221 | but not in the normal way |
03:39.18 | Patlabor221 | there is no make all |
03:39.32 | Patlabor221 | I need to make a shell scipt for it |
03:39.52 | Noodleman | where to i get fmod? |
03:39.59 | Patlabor221 | www.fmod.org :) |
03:40.25 | Patlabor221 | then do a make in osfile, time, texturemanager, soundmanager, lge, then screamers |
03:40.27 | Patlabor221 | in that order |
03:40.34 | Noodleman | ok |
03:41.55 | Noodleman | i don't have to make install, do i? |
03:42.02 | Patlabor221 | no |
03:42.16 | Patlabor221 | when it's all done there should be a screamers file in the same folder as data |
03:42.21 | Patlabor221 | run that |
03:42.24 | Noodleman | ok |
03:43.18 | Patlabor221 | what do shells scripts have to start with? |
03:44.12 | Patlabor221 | #!/bin/sh |
03:44.12 | Patlabor221 | ? |
03:44.15 | Noodleman | yup |
03:44.27 | Patlabor221 | and then # is a comment? |
03:44.34 | Noodleman | yes |
03:45.10 | dougheckaa | ooh man, this is soo easy |
03:45.11 | dougheckaa | :) |
03:46.57 | Noodleman | i guess it needs sdl :-) |
03:47.13 | Patlabor221 | ohh yes it does |
03:47.14 | Patlabor221 | sorry |
03:47.23 | Noodleman | that's fine |
03:47.36 | Patlabor221 | how would I check for that in the build |
03:47.41 | Noodleman | a simple apt-get command takes care of that |
03:47.45 | Noodleman | not sure |
03:48.05 | Patlabor221 | or if a file exists |
03:49.11 | Noodleman | if [-e filename] then dosomething fi |
03:50.01 | Noodleman | you could use autoconf |
03:50.08 | Noodleman | you have to learn how first tho |
03:50.29 | Patlabor221 | how can I have the scrpt jump to the end |
03:50.39 | Noodleman | not sure |
03:50.54 | Noodleman | you mean have it quit? |
03:50.56 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
03:50.59 | Noodleman | exit |
03:52.25 | Noodleman | World.h:13:20: coldet.h: No such file or directory |
03:52.41 | Patlabor221 | damnit |
03:52.45 | Patlabor221 | I commited |
03:52.46 | Patlabor221 | crap |
03:52.52 | Patlabor221 | didn't mean to |
03:52.59 | Patlabor221 | that's part of the new stuff |
03:53.10 | Patlabor221 | hmmm let me blow it out |
03:53.14 | Patlabor221 | and update CVS |
03:53.25 | Patlabor221 | or is there a way to roll it back to the first update? |
03:53.41 | Noodleman | i don't know |
03:53.45 | Noodleman | there probably is |
03:54.00 | Noodleman | -r v0_0 |
03:54.03 | Noodleman | try that |
03:54.11 | Patlabor221 | no you try that :) |
03:54.17 | Noodleman | oh |
03:54.22 | Noodleman | yeah :-P''''' |
03:54.31 | Patlabor221 | that should give you the code from the inital update |
03:54.48 | Patlabor221 | seems I added clodet part way |
03:57.21 | Noodleman | oh yeah, of course that won't work |
03:57.40 | Patlabor221 | didn't tag did we? |
03:58.07 | Noodleman | i did tag |
03:58.17 | Noodleman | but if you update |
03:58.23 | Patlabor221 | like I did |
03:58.37 | Noodleman | then it will update the whole branch |
03:58.39 | Patlabor221 | ether I update with the old code again, or we need to roll back |
03:58.49 | Noodleman | update with the old code |
03:58.55 | Patlabor221 | we should have done a verison tag before I updated |
03:58.58 | Noodleman | i don't know how to roll back |
03:58.58 | Patlabor221 | geting it now |
03:59.03 | Patlabor221 | nor do I |
04:02.24 | Patlabor221 | does that look like an ok script ? |
04:02.24 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/make_all |
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04:03.08 | doughecka | greetings |
04:03.19 | Noodleman | you probably should check for the opengl headers too |
04:03.33 | captain_proton | cp *.h ../include/*.h <-- huh? |
04:04.03 | Noodleman | GL/gl.h and GL/glu.h |
04:04.22 | Patlabor221 | copies the latest headers to the include dir, it's lame but it's how I do it |
04:04.38 | Patlabor221 | need to make it just use them from there |
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04:04.58 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: shouldn't that be 'cp *.h ../include/' ? |
04:05.16 | Patlabor221 | yeah since it's not windows :) |
04:05.56 | Patlabor221 | it's trying to update now |
04:07.36 | Patlabor221 | how would I check for the GL headers? |
04:07.59 | Patlabor221 | in /usr/include/GL/gl.h? |
04:08.07 | [STC]_creeperz | on ^1:HOTLINK:*help*:#:{ |
04:08.07 | [STC]_creeperz | <PROTECTED> |
04:08.07 | [STC]_creeperz | <PROTECTED> |
04:08.07 | [STC]_creeperz | } |
04:08.07 | [STC]_creeperz | on 1:HOTLINK:*:*:echo clicked word $1 in line $hotline |
04:08.11 | [STC]_creeperz | Oopz |
04:08.17 | captain_proton | [ -f /usr/include/GL/gl.h ] :) |
04:08.28 | Noodleman | check for /usr/include/GL/gl.h and /usr/include/GL/glu.h |
04:08.33 | Patlabor221 | how is that difrent then -e? |
04:08.43 | Patlabor221 | find? |
04:08.45 | Noodleman | not sure |
04:09.19 | captain_proton | -e means exists, -f means regular file |
04:10.21 | Patlabor221 | hmmm this CVs seems to be hung up |
04:11.32 | Patlabor221 | or not |
04:11.56 | Patlabor221 | just sending a lot of data |
04:11.57 | [STC]_creeperz | Noodle: is XChat cool? |
04:12.04 | Patlabor221 | xchat is cool |
04:12.12 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
04:12.15 | Patlabor221 | trillian is kinda cooler |
04:12.15 | Noodleman | sure |
04:12.26 | [STC]_creeperz | I never like Trillian |
04:12.28 | Patlabor221 | is that why you version pinnged eberyone? |
04:12.35 | [STC]_creeperz | Not everyone |
04:12.43 | doughecka | here goes the repartitioning of my drive |
04:12.46 | [STC]_creeperz | Just Noobleman, Bot, ibot, and you |
04:12.51 | Patlabor221 | what's wrong will trillian |
04:12.58 | [STC]_creeperz | What is doug doing? |
04:13.03 | [STC]_creeperz | I just never liked it |
04:13.37 | [STC]_creeperz | Noodleman* |
04:13.42 | Noodleman | yes? |
04:13.45 | [STC]_creeperz | No |
04:13.58 | [STC]_creeperz | I just spelled your name "Noobleman" |
04:14.05 | Noodleman | noobleman |
04:14.10 | Noodleman | that's neat |
04:14.17 | [STC]_creeperz | Yup |
04:14.28 | [STC]_creeperz | N00Bleman |
04:14.58 | [STC]_creeperz | Tuck: When your next day off? |
04:15.15 | [STC]_creeperz | on ^1:HOTLINK:*help*:#:{ |
04:15.16 | [STC]_creeperz | <PROTECTED> |
04:15.16 | [STC]_creeperz | <PROTECTED> |
04:15.16 | [STC]_creeperz | } |
04:15.16 | [STC]_creeperz | on 1:HOTLINK:*:*:echo clicked word $1 in line $hotline |
04:15.20 | [STC]_creeperz | OOpz |
04:15.21 | Noobleman | Sunday, i guess |
04:15.28 | [STC]_creeperz | Ahh |
04:17.17 | IdiotInATank | Waste is life, life is equaly to waste. IF this is true, what are we? |
04:18.04 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmmm |
04:18.36 | [STC]_creeperz | I'm getting back to my retuine...Doing nothing but being someone that I am not |
04:21.03 | Patlabor221 | hmm I think I broke the CVS project |
04:21.28 | Patlabor221 | hmm or not |
04:37.05 | Patlabor221 | noodle I think the entire repository is jacked |
04:37.12 | Patlabor221 | how do I kill it? and make it anew? |
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05:30.00 | Noodleman | Patlabor221: i fixed the repository |
05:30.11 | Noodleman | i just reimported the source |
05:37.02 | Patlabor221 | cool I'll check out and add the scrtipt |
05:39.06 | Patlabor221 | I must say that the wincvs server blows |
05:39.10 | Patlabor221 | sorry client |
05:39.14 | Patlabor221 | winCVS |
05:39.21 | Noodleman | hehe |
05:39.59 | Patlabor221 | but the TortoiseCVS, that thing rocks |
05:41.59 | Noodleman | i need some help... |
05:42.04 | Patlabor221 | ? |
05:42.04 | Noodleman | anyone game? |
05:42.12 | Patlabor221 | depends what it's with |
05:42.27 | Noodleman | i need a good, funny, practical joke to play on my coworkers tomorrow |
05:43.04 | Patlabor221 | install vnc on there machine |
05:43.07 | Patlabor221 | then log in |
05:43.13 | Patlabor221 | and type stuff to them |
05:43.23 | Patlabor221 | like how you are a ghost |
05:43.24 | Noodleman | i was thinking i could dump out jim's dew and replace it with carbonated water, but i don't want to waste all that soda |
05:43.42 | Noodleman | and they'd know it was vnc |
05:43.56 | Patlabor221 | hmmmmm |
05:47.27 | Patlabor221 | ok the script is in CVS |
05:47.35 | Noodleman | ok |
05:48.02 | Patlabor221 | how does one check out on a command line? |
05:48.39 | Noodleman | cvs co screamers |
05:49.01 | Patlabor221 | after loging in ? |
05:49.23 | Noodleman | yes |
05:49.37 | Noodleman | use the same commands as on sourceforge |
05:49.40 | Patlabor221 | and how does one log in on a command line ( /me uses clicky things ) |
05:49.41 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
05:49.48 | Noodleman | except adapt them for your machine |
05:51.28 | Patlabor221 | hmmmm you could make them think they all got fired |
05:51.55 | Patlabor221 | or you got fired |
05:52.05 | Noodleman | hehe |
05:52.21 | Patlabor221 | or someone is doin somone elses wife |
05:52.26 | Noodleman | how would i do that in a tiny little company? |
05:52.34 | Patlabor221 | dono |
05:52.55 | Patlabor221 | plastic wrap on the toilets allways works |
05:53.24 | Noodleman | the problem is that i might have to use it :-) |
05:54.50 | Patlabor221 | hold it |
05:55.13 | Patlabor221 | rig up some porn on someones machine |
05:57.19 | Patlabor221 | hmmm well the if parts of the script need help |
05:57.29 | Patlabor221 | but it's doing the making in the right order |
05:57.39 | Patlabor221 | does there need to be a space between [ and -e ? |
05:57.49 | Noodleman | not that i know of |
06:19.16 | Patlabor221 | hmmm looks like I have to update fmod again. |
06:24.57 | Patlabor221 | but at least they are crankin on linux suport |
06:41.36 | Noodleman | you're install script doesn't work right, can i fix it? :-) |
06:44.18 | Patlabor221 | sure |
06:44.23 | Patlabor221 | well the app segs too |
06:45.14 | Patlabor221 | I updated to FMOD 3.6.2 as well |
06:45.20 | Patlabor221 | the .so and stuff is in CVS |
06:45.30 | Patlabor221 | in the fmod folder for sound |
06:46.35 | Patlabor221 | hmmmmmm |
06:46.42 | Patlabor221 | segs in winders too |
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06:46.52 | Patlabor221 | well access violation |
06:47.58 | Patlabor221 | hmm I see |
06:50.38 | Patlabor221 | dosn't like the CVS folders |
06:50.54 | Patlabor221 | this can be fixed |
06:51.50 | Patlabor221 | didn't handle stuff with no extension |
06:53.34 | Patlabor221 | wow seems data got trashed |
06:55.11 | Noodleman | ouch |
06:55.38 | Patlabor221 | does the mp3 in data/ui music |
06:55.40 | Patlabor221 | play for you? |
06:56.16 | Noodleman | let's see |
06:56.44 | Noodleman | downloading mpg321 |
06:56.55 | Patlabor221 | I do need to change them to ogg |
06:57.04 | Patlabor221 | the engine does support it |
06:57.34 | Noodleman | yup |
06:57.40 | Patlabor221 | it plays? |
06:57.51 | Noodleman | thru an mp3 player it does |
06:57.54 | Patlabor221 | then maybe I just had a bad update |
06:58.16 | Patlabor221 | fixing code issues now |
06:58.34 | Noodleman | i figured out what i'm going to do for a practical joke tomorrow |
06:59.04 | Patlabor221 | ? |
07:00.01 | Noodleman | i'm going to switch around the 'g' and 'h' keys on sean's and jim's keyboards and have my sister call up the secretary, and make like the phone company is going to test the wires by pumping hot steam through them, and to not use the phones for 10 minutes |
07:00.13 | Noodleman | :-) |
07:00.25 | Patlabor221 | LOL |
07:02.53 | Noodleman | if something doesn't like the CVS folders, you can do a cvs export instead of checkout |
07:03.15 | Patlabor221 | I made it just reject files that had no extension |
07:03.21 | Patlabor221 | it was a good think to do anyway |
07:03.26 | Noodleman | ok |
07:05.05 | Patlabor221 | hmm rather odd |
07:05.08 | Patlabor221 | fmod 3.6.2 won't go |
07:06.02 | Patlabor221 | well I shall have to look at it tomrow |
07:06.05 | Patlabor221 | as it is late |
07:06.13 | Patlabor221 | thanks again for seting this up |
07:06.18 | Patlabor221 | have a good night |
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14:03.06 | doughecka | greetings |
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15:02.38 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | Good Morning :D |
15:04.35 | [dmp] | man, i'm a newbie.. just did the "used assignment = instead of comparing =="-fault.. its been too long :-\ |
15:04.44 | [dmp] | god morning, sleepyhead :) |
15:06.08 | [dmp] | ~ducatictf |
15:16.45 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | [dmp]: you there? |
15:17.14 | [dmp] | Nope. This is [dmp] fancy ladder-enabled auto-away with mp3-post-what-i-listen-to-annoyer. |
15:17.41 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | :D |
15:18.06 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | lost you in icq |
15:18.10 | [dmp] | what's up? |
15:37.18 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | need hardware expert |
15:46.19 | strayer | [TeA|TrEE]_ here R only experts.... :) |
15:47.14 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | :D |
15:47.22 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | i know but none are there |
15:47.46 | strayer | is me 'none'? |
15:47.51 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | all to busy having this numbers in front of the screen getting braindead of programming |
15:47.58 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | ;) |
15:48.22 | strayer | hm...right ...programmers are the hell... |
15:48.35 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | they are from a other world |
15:48.36 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | ;) |
15:48.42 | strayer | yupp |
15:49.16 | strayer | what do U wanna know....maybe I as a 'nobody' can help U |
15:49.46 | [dmp] | hi nobody |
15:50.13 | strayer | lalala... :| |
15:50.17 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | hmm |
15:50.23 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | wartest du auf mich? |
15:50.26 | strayer | ja |
15:50.30 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | *grins* |
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15:57.53 | rooter | hello |
15:58.00 | strayer | hey rooter |
15:59.47 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | rooter !!!! |
16:00.05 | rooter | hey TeA |
16:00.45 | rooter | what are you up to? |
16:00.53 | rooter | i just finished a calculus exam |
16:01.19 | rooter | i see |
16:01.42 | strayer | he had to reboot |
16:01.53 | rooter | ah... windows users :) |
16:02.16 | strayer | :) |
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16:03.05 | rooter | Does anybody here play bz on OS X? |
16:03.37 | rooter | oh well |
16:04.14 | rooter | I'm thinking about getting the new 17" Powerbook |
16:04.50 | strayer | U R a lucky one... |
16:05.01 | rooter | yes... my boss loves me. |
16:05.14 | rooter | but, i would like to know how well bz plays on it |
16:05.56 | strayer | hm...dunno...i only heared that there is a version for MAC OS x |
16:07.26 | rooter | there is... but g0 for OS X is on release 7 |
16:07.35 | rooter | that makes it sound a little buggy |
16:08.31 | strayer | hm...i have no idea who can give U any infos about it.....maybe cap or chestal |
16:09.27 | rooter | maybe... It's either that or get a win laptop and install linux... but i would rather get OS X |
16:10.22 | strayer | i would take an ibook 2....cause i never had one.... :) |
16:10.30 | rooter | :) me either |
16:10.38 | rooter | they sucked until OS X |
16:11.26 | strayer | but isn't it much more difficult to get free software for MAC than for ix86? |
16:11.39 | rooter | well.. that's it's biggest drawback... but... |
16:11.53 | rooter | most gnu software runs on it |
16:12.07 | rooter | plus Photoshop, MS Office, |
16:12.24 | rooter | most anything that runs on Unix.... XWindows |
16:12.27 | rooter | gcc |
16:12.37 | strayer | aha......yeah picture editing on MAC is cool...saw my friend with it |
16:13.02 | rooter | it has an integrated wireless 802.11g |
16:13.17 | rooter | i just ordered a 802.11g router :) |
16:13.45 | strayer | lucky and wealthy.... :) |
16:13.45 | rooter | i want to play bzflag in my hammock without any wires |
16:13.56 | rooter | well... it wasn't that expensive |
16:14.20 | strayer | ok...these components became much cheaper last months |
16:14.32 | rooter | about $129.99 |
16:14.44 | rooter | i already have an 802.11b router |
16:15.14 | strayer | why do U need 2? |
16:15.26 | strayer | oh...sry my fault....... |
16:15.39 | rooter | i don't... i just want the 802.11g... I will probably sell the other |
16:15.47 | strayer | k |
16:15.59 | rooter | i'm pretty stoked about it.... but bzflag is a requirement! |
16:16.51 | strayer | hehe....U can run linux on Ur ibook and bzflag runs on linux |
16:17.21 | strayer | ...this as last opinion if bzflag 4 MAC OS x would suck |
16:17.23 | rooter | true... I also could use virtual win or linux... |
16:17.42 | rooter | hopefully the speed will be ok |
16:18.12 | rooter | if you hear of anybody using OS X... let me know :) |
16:18.23 | strayer | hm...i think so....that is, what MAC is proud of....the fast architecture |
16:18.29 | strayer | ok...will do so |
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17:16.29 | Cell | lo |
17:16.57 | Cell | emacs can i start the meta-x doctor from shell emacs? |
17:18.41 | Cell | FAQ in knowledge based systems: How can You represent knowledge? |
17:18.48 | Cell | anyone knows? |
17:19.44 | Cell | anyone knows hoe PROLOG works (overview) plz? |
17:32.13 | Cell | gurgle |
17:44.55 | Jormungandr | tortoise even ;) |
17:45.03 | Patlabor221 | yup |
17:45.21 | Patlabor221 | well other then the fact that it keeps mangaling the data files :( |
17:45.28 | Jormungandr | ow |
17:45.39 | larsl | The binary files? |
17:45.50 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
17:45.57 | Patlabor221 | the MP3s |
17:46.08 | Patlabor221 | and the TGAs |
17:46.14 | larsl | Do you use -kb? |
17:46.28 | Patlabor221 | don't have that option in thre |
17:46.34 | larsl | Ah. |
17:46.34 | Patlabor221 | not command line :) |
17:46.59 | Patlabor221 | can someone try anon cvs on asgard.bakdigital.com module screamers? |
17:47.51 | Patlabor221 | and then see if they can play the mp3 thats in data/'Ui music |
17:48.28 | larsl | What't the path to the repository? |
17:48.39 | Patlabor221 | it's /cvsroot |
17:49.02 | larsl | Getting it now. |
17:50.07 | Patlabor221 | I think I'm going to make a BZ maps project too |
17:50.15 | larsl | BZ maps? |
17:50.33 | Patlabor221 | yes a CVS server that holds maps |
17:50.37 | Patlabor221 | so there can be history |
17:50.51 | larsl | That sounds nice. |
17:51.42 | larsl | Do people remove old files in the SF tracker? |
17:51.47 | larsl | The world tracker. |
17:51.55 | Patlabor221 | sometimes |
17:51.58 | Patlabor221 | sometimes not |
17:54.11 | larsl | intro.mp3 plays in XMMS. |
17:56.46 | Patlabor221 | then it's just my client |
17:56.47 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
18:10.09 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I wonder if the server thinks they are text files |
18:17.50 | Cell | Unknown host asgard.bakdigital.com. |
18:18.11 | Cell | ah |
18:18.14 | Cell | err |
18:18.15 | Patlabor221 | yeah there is no bakdigital |
18:20.23 | Cell | whats the user name? |
18:20.39 | Patlabor221 | it has anon checkout |
18:21.03 | Cell | hm |
18:21.08 | Patlabor221 | just like bz |
18:22.06 | Cell | ah k got it |
18:22.20 | Patlabor221 | anyone know how CVS knows if a file is text or binary? |
18:22.29 | Patlabor221 | it's thinking the mp3s are text |
18:22.45 | larsl | Patlabor221: You tell it when you add the file. |
18:22.45 | Cell | hm, config |
18:23.06 | Patlabor221 | any way to chang it after it's added? |
18:23.15 | larsl | Yes, there's some admin command. |
18:23.28 | Patlabor221 | got any idea what it is :) |
18:24.39 | larsl | cvs admin -kb <file> |
18:24.49 | larsl | To change it in the repository. |
18:24.53 | Patlabor221 | kewl |
18:25.03 | larsl | And then update to change it in the working directory. |
18:25.38 | Cell | Patlabor221: is everyone allowed to update your repository? |
18:25.44 | Patlabor221 | no |
18:26.01 | Patlabor221 | you must have a developer account to commit |
18:26.12 | Cell | ah |
18:29.52 | Cell | building... |
18:30.05 | Patlabor221 | your data is going to be screwed man |
18:30.44 | Cell | have some errors |
18:31.17 | Patlabor221 | yeah and the libs will be screwed |
18:31.34 | Patlabor221 | it thinks everything is text |
18:32.42 | Cell | hm |
18:33.01 | Cell | mp3 is test thats for sure |
18:33.03 | Patlabor221 | there one file fixed, and assload to go |
18:33.06 | Cell | text |
18:34.04 | Patlabor221 | must figure out the best way to do this |
18:38.35 | Cell | f:\cvs\screamers\LGE\LGE.cpp(11): fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'SDL/SDL.h': No such file or directory |
18:38.43 | Patlabor221 | you don't have SDL |
18:38.45 | Patlabor221 | get it |
18:38.47 | Cell | ah |
18:39.28 | Cell | and LGE.h? |
18:39.46 | Patlabor221 | thats in LGE |
18:39.47 | Patlabor221 | youhave that |
18:39.58 | Cell | f:\cvs\screamers\Screamers\MOBList.h(6): fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'LGE.h': No such file or directory |
18:40.25 | Cell | hm |
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18:40.30 | Patlabor221 | that would make sense if LGE didn't build |
18:40.37 | Patlabor221 | since it didn't have SDL |
18:40.38 | bzgirl | hello |
18:40.42 | Patlabor221 | it didn't copy it's headers |
18:40.42 | Cell | ah |
18:40.43 | Patlabor221 | hello |
18:40.45 | Patlabor221 | how are you? |
18:40.53 | bzgirl | good thanks :) |
18:41.14 | Cell | where do i get sdl? |
18:41.48 | Patlabor221 | www.libsdl.org |
18:42.12 | Cell | ah, thanks |
18:43.16 | Patlabor221 | but your data is screwed till I fix this |
18:45.15 | Cell | gurgle i only downloaded the binary last time |
18:46.57 | Cell | vc7 forces to convert the project files to its format |
18:52.00 | Patlabor221 | and there is data missing |
18:52.04 | Cell | god i have to set the path to the sdl include and lib dir manually |
18:52.23 | Patlabor221 | I just copy them to the right dir |
18:52.27 | Patlabor221 | and then it's good |
18:52.41 | Cell | what dir? |
18:52.53 | Patlabor221 | your base inc and lib dirs for VC |
18:53.03 | Cell | ah |
18:56.42 | Cell | strange: #include <SDL/SDL.h>, do you copy SDL.h to the baseincludedirforVC/SDL ? |
18:56.57 | Patlabor221 | ues |
18:57.02 | Cell | ah |
18:57.04 | Patlabor221 | works just like GL |
18:57.44 | Cell | ah |
19:01.21 | Cell | how do i know what is the baseincludedirforVC i did not find that in the options? |
19:02.12 | Patlabor221 | look for it |
19:02.19 | Patlabor221 | and look for gl.h |
19:03.35 | Cell | hm, is that not configurable? |
19:04.55 | Patlabor221 | you could add it to the app prefs |
19:04.57 | Patlabor221 | if you wanted |
19:06.07 | Cell | C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET\Vc7\PlatformSDK\Include\gl |
19:06.23 | Cell | hm that should be it |
19:06.34 | Patlabor221 | most likeky |
19:11.23 | Cell | gluBuild2DMipmaps(GL_TEXTURE_2D,3,iImageW,iImageH,GL_BGR,GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE,pImageData); |
19:11.24 | Cell | f:\cvs\screamers\TextureManager\FileLoaders.cpp(236): error C2065: 'GL_BGR' : undeclared identifier |
19:11.55 | Cell | gurgle |
19:12.09 | Cell | GL_BGR |
19:12.10 | doughecka | haha |
19:12.14 | doughecka | 4 dupes on slashdot |
19:12.16 | doughecka | same day |
19:12.18 | doughecka | same page |
19:12.24 | Cell | he? |
19:12.27 | Patlabor221 | you need GL 1.2 |
19:12.36 | Patlabor221 | you have 1..1 |
19:12.37 | Cell | ah |
19:12.52 | Patlabor221 | I need to put in a #define if the user dosn't have 1.2 |
19:13.38 | doughecka | http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/looflirpa/igrill.shtml |
19:13.46 | doughecka | Using the USB current to directly charge high voltage capacitors, the iGrill does not require any additional power supply, making it perfect for dorm or office cooking. |
19:13.58 | doughecka | umm, hows that work? |
19:13.59 | doughecka | :) |
19:14.27 | Patlabor221 | USB has 5 v |
19:14.46 | doughecka | 500 mW |
19:14.49 | doughecka | not much |
19:14.57 | Patlabor221 | thats why they keep it in caps |
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19:15.05 | Patlabor221 | store up a charge |
19:16.10 | captain_proton | doughecka: depends on the device |
19:16.30 | captain_proton | doughecka: devices can request as many power units as they want, and if the computer/hub can give it to them, it will |
19:17.06 | doughecka | hm |
19:17.20 | doughecka | 650 cranking amps? |
19:17.21 | doughecka | woo |
19:17.51 | captain_proton | doughecka: the usb master does power arbitration among ports |
19:19.16 | doughecka | cool |
19:19.38 | Patlabor221 | cap tell scanline that his card is being shiped today, I will have a tracking number later today |
19:20.07 | Patlabor221 | damn CVS keeps thinkin that TGA files are text |
19:20.27 | captain_proton | sure |
19:23.27 | Patlabor221 | now this shold fix all the binary files |
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20:07.07 | dougheckaa | oh wow |
20:07.10 | dougheckaa | thats so cool |
20:07.12 | dougheckaa | :) |
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20:07.31 | dougheckaa | haha |
20:14.22 | dougheckaa | how do I delete in linux? |
20:15.48 | Cell | wow i can use lot of screamers code for my purposes :) |
20:22.12 | Cell | wow lots of model format loaders |
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20:22.13 | doughecka | greetings |
20:22.18 | Cell | hi |
20:22.25 | doughecka | wii |
20:22.27 | doughecka | woo |
20:22.29 | doughecka | it still boots |
20:25.13 | Cell | ~100000/8 |
20:25.13 | | 12500 |
20:25.36 | Cell | ~12500/1024 |
20:25.37 | | 12.20703125 |
20:35.25 | Patlabor221 | urp |
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20:35.29 | dougheckaa | haha |
20:35.31 | dougheckaa | it works! |
20:35.38 | Patlabor221 | what works? |
20:35.51 | dougheckaa | XP and linux dual boot |
20:35.57 | dougheckaa | without reinstalling XP |
20:36.08 | Cell | what linux? |
20:36.11 | dougheckaa | knoppix |
20:36.56 | Patlabor221 | why would you have to reinstall XP |
20:37.04 | Patlabor221 | XP then lin |
20:37.13 | dougheckaa | I dint have a linux partition |
20:37.15 | Patlabor221 | the lin booat loader supports windows |
20:37.28 | dougheckaa | yea |
20:37.51 | Cell | ~bye |
20:37.52 | | bye bye |
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20:37.58 | dougheckaa | hmm, its all aquafied |
20:38.07 | dougheckaa | very clever |
20:40.54 | larsl | Aquafied? |
20:40.59 | Patlabor221 | KDE? |
20:41.06 | dougheckaa | yup |
20:41.24 | dougheckaa | even the menu thingy down at the bottom is like the OS X dock |
20:41.30 | dougheckaa | the icons spring up |
20:41.31 | Patlabor221 | neat |
20:41.48 | dougheckaa | no genie effect though |
20:42.35 | dougheckaa | aftet it apt-get dist-updates I can test cvs |
20:48.49 | lurgyman | hmm... |
20:48.51 | lurgyman | http://googly.com/ |
20:48.53 | lurgyman | er |
20:49.47 | dougheckaa | woo, sound works |
20:52.00 | Patlabor221 | there now it will build with GL 1.1 |
21:00.19 | dougheckaa | bzflag g0 is in debians apt-get |
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21:06.14 | Patlabor221 | well that was fun |
21:06.20 | dougheckaa | lol |
21:08.08 | Patlabor221 | hmmm fmod 3.6.2 won't go on lin, that's odd |
21:13.26 | Noodleman_work | it's april 1st |
21:13.31 | Noodleman_work | my big day >:-) |
21:13.46 | Patlabor221 | how is it going so far |
21:13.51 | Patlabor221 | ohh and I'm pissed at you :) |
21:13.57 | Noodleman_work | haven't done anything so far |
21:14.03 | Noodleman_work | why are you? |
21:14.21 | dougheckaa | Noodleman_work fried his new network card! |
21:14.29 | Noodleman_work | haha |
21:14.31 | Patlabor221 | when you added the code to CVS it made all the files text |
21:14.38 | Noodleman_work | haven't even got it yet |
21:14.42 | dougheckaa | oh |
21:14.44 | Noodleman_work | ??? |
21:14.46 | Patlabor221 | not that you would have known not to do that tho, so I can't blame you |
21:14.58 | Patlabor221 | it made a number of binary files text |
21:15.10 | Patlabor221 | so when I get them on win, it tries to "fix" them |
21:15.16 | Patlabor221 | the MP3's |
21:15.21 | Patlabor221 | and the TGA files moslty |
21:15.27 | Patlabor221 | I've got it fixed tho :) |
21:15.37 | Noodleman_work | sorry :-) |
21:15.55 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure nether of us thought it was an issue |
21:16.07 | Patlabor221 | would have probably done the same thing myslef |
21:16.07 | Noodleman_work | dougheckaa likes knoppix, i can tell |
21:16.32 | dougheckaa | hehe |
21:16.33 | dougheckaa | :) |
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21:18.39 | larsl | ~xmission |
21:18.47 | larsl | 'cheater' is cheating. |
21:18.54 | bzgirl | again |
21:19.00 | dougheckaa | oh really? |
21:19.07 | larsl | He seems to be able to fly. |
21:19.12 | dougheckaa | wonder why he picked that name |
21:19.50 | Noodleman_work | 'Tukker' |
21:19.52 | Noodleman_work | hmm |
21:19.56 | Noodleman_work | interesting :-) |
21:20.01 | dougheckaa | heh |
21:20.32 | Noodleman_work | did you copy it to the hard drive? |
21:20.44 | dougheckaa | yup |
21:20.48 | dougheckaa | and got windows to see it |
21:20.52 | Noodleman_work | is it nice? |
21:20.59 | dougheckaa | yea |
21:21.01 | dougheckaa | very |
21:21.04 | dougheckaa | aquafied |
21:21.10 | Noodleman_work | i'm gonna have to test it out |
21:21.13 | dougheckaa | hehe |
21:21.20 | Noodleman_work | i've got a spare machine |
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21:21.27 | dougheckaa | ah |
21:21.28 | dougheckaa | you should |
21:21.30 | Noodleman_work | i've been testing debian unstable on it |
21:21.34 | dougheckaa | its debian |
21:21.38 | Noodleman_work | yeah |
21:21.39 | Noodleman_work | i know |
21:21.40 | dougheckaa | knoppix IS debian unstable |
21:21.43 | dougheckaa | :) |
21:23.00 | Noodleman_work | i've still got a few distros on my list to test |
21:23.07 | dougheckaa | hm |
21:23.10 | dougheckaa | redhat 9... |
21:23.12 | dougheckaa | mandrake 9 |
21:23.20 | Noodleman_work | i've tested gentoo and debian unstable |
21:23.23 | dougheckaa | cool |
21:23.27 | Noodleman_work | gunna try out those two |
21:23.28 | dougheckaa | hows gentoo? |
21:23.30 | larsl | Can someone please kick and ban 'cheater' from xmission? |
21:23.43 | Noodleman_work | it's great except for the fact that you have to compile everything |
21:23.49 | dougheckaa | yea. |
21:24.15 | Noodleman_work | it's better than debian except for that |
21:24.15 | dougheckaa | whats neat is everytime knoppix boots, it autodetects all the devices |
21:24.32 | Noodleman_work | that's one thing i like about redhat |
21:24.36 | dougheckaa | yea |
21:24.48 | dougheckaa | exept in knoppix it WORKS! |
21:24.54 | dougheckaa | exept my poor usb mouse |
21:24.54 | Noodleman_work | hehe |
21:24.55 | dougheckaa | :( |
21:25.14 | Noodleman_work | are you subscribed to redhat network? |
21:25.19 | Patlabor221 | yes |
21:25.25 | Noodleman_work | ah |
21:25.36 | Patlabor221 | was geting a MASIVE 3..2 K a sec yesterday |
21:25.41 | dougheckaa | hmm |
21:25.43 | Noodleman_work | :-P |
21:25.46 | Patlabor221 | feel the burn |
21:25.50 | dougheckaa | use bittorrent, after a while I was getting 140+ |
21:26.02 | Patlabor221 | they have 9? |
21:26.05 | dougheckaa | yup |
21:26.08 | dougheckaa | read slashdot |
21:26.09 | Patlabor221 | URL? |
21:26.13 | Noodleman_work | how is 9? |
21:26.14 | dougheckaa | somewhere on there theres a link |
21:26.18 | Patlabor221 | gime the skinny |
21:26.20 | Noodleman_work | have you tested it? |
21:26.27 | dougheckaa | I installed knoppix :) |
21:26.43 | Noodleman_work | take some screenies of knoppix |
21:26.51 | dougheckaa | hm |
21:26.56 | dougheckaa | after I get it running |
21:26.58 | dougheckaa | all updated |
21:27.05 | Patlabor221 | can't find it, you have URL? |
21:27.40 | bzgirl | Patlabor221: RH9 isos.. http://www.aaltonen.us/archives/000023.html |
21:28.00 | larsl | Are bullets supposed to pass through teleports in exactly the same way as tanks do? |
21:28.09 | dougheckaa | "According to Daily Daemon News and The FreeBSD Diary, NetBSD, FreeBSD and GNU/OpenBSD are to be merged. |
21:28.11 | Noodleman_work | as far as i know, yes |
21:28.16 | Noodleman_work | haha |
21:28.25 | Noodleman_work | don't believe anything on /. today |
21:28.27 | dougheckaa | there was 4 dupes on slashdot |
21:28.27 | larsl | I think I've found a bug then. |
21:28.35 | dougheckaa | today |
21:28.38 | larsl | I liked the one about Enlightenment 1.0. =) |
21:28.43 | Noodleman_work | :-P |
21:28.54 | Noodleman_work | what about closed source gnomemeeting? |
21:28.54 | dougheckaa | http://slashdot.org/articles/03/03/31/1256236.shtml?tid=0 |
21:28.58 | Patlabor221 | needs a login |
21:28.58 | dougheckaa | haha |
21:30.47 | Patlabor221 | you have the login? |
21:30.57 | dougheckaa | bittorrent is fasta |
21:30.58 | dougheckaa | :P |
21:31.04 | dougheckaa | takes awhile, but it will be |
21:32.10 | Noodleman_work | telnet smtp3.coinet.com 25 |
21:32.16 | Noodleman_work | :-) |
21:33.26 | Patlabor221 | hmmm something is very wrong with FMOD |
21:34.19 | dougheckaa | <PROTECTED> |
21:34.21 | dougheckaa | erk |
21:34.23 | dougheckaa | darn linux |
21:38.37 | Patlabor221 | anyone want to help with a linux compile issue? |
21:38.55 | dougheckaa | nope |
21:39.16 | Patlabor221 | why would you have to compile it? |
21:39.27 | dougheckaa | I dont want to pay |
21:39.31 | dougheckaa | so I get cvs |
21:39.47 | dougheckaa | just dont have copy protection and support for some installers |
21:40.02 | dougheckaa | or all installers |
21:40.11 | Patlabor221 | they charge for winx? |
21:40.18 | dougheckaa | yea |
21:40.22 | dougheckaa | subscription |
21:40.45 | dougheckaa | I guess they have to pay to put those copy protection and installers support in there or something |
21:44.08 | dougheckaa | irs 4:44 |
21:45.09 | larsl | Patlabor221: What's the issue? |
21:46.41 | Patlabor221 | I get a bunch of unkown token stuff |
21:46.48 | Patlabor221 | in my fmod header |
21:46.58 | larsl | 'unknown token'? |
21:46.59 | Patlabor221 | I updated to a never version |
21:47.04 | larsl | I've never seen that. |
21:47.21 | Patlabor221 | parse error before '*' token |
21:47.27 | larsl | What was the CVS again? |
21:47.36 | Patlabor221 | asgard.bakadigital.com |
21:47.40 | Patlabor221 | module screamers |
21:48.07 | Patlabor221 | then do a make inside the SoundManager folder |
21:48.56 | Patlabor221 | guess I could go back to fmod 3.61 but I'd rather not, there are a lot of nice linux fixes in 3.62 |
21:49.04 | larsl | Do I need any libraries? |
21:49.22 | Patlabor221 | the .so is in cvs |
21:49.24 | larsl | OK. |
21:49.35 | Patlabor221 | screamers\SoundManager\fmod\libfmod-3.62.so |
21:49.43 | Patlabor221 | well with / not \ :) |
21:49.56 | larsl | Is that a C or C++ library? |
21:51.50 | Patlabor221 | don't know :) |
21:52.08 | Patlabor221 | looks all C |
21:52.23 | Patlabor221 | but it may use C++ inside |
21:52.27 | Patlabor221 | don't have source for it |
21:53.34 | Patlabor221 | the older version worked |
21:53.43 | Patlabor221 | and that is odd |
21:54.13 | larsl | What does _cdecl mean? |
21:55.20 | Patlabor221 | DLL exports for windows |
21:55.26 | larsl | Oh. |
21:55.39 | larsl | GCC might not like that. |
21:56.52 | [dmp] | ~ducatictf |
21:57.06 | larsl | I defined _cdecl to an empty string, and now it builds. |
21:57.13 | dougheckaa | aaah, trying to keep track of 4 irc windows is hard |
21:57.14 | Patlabor221 | it was in the 3.61 and it worked fine |
21:57.22 | Patlabor221 | hmmm |
21:57.33 | larsl | I'm using GCC 3.2, by the way. |
21:58.33 | larsl | Funny thing... before it uses _cdecl, it defines __cdecl (with two underscores) as the empty string if it's a GNU system. |
21:58.39 | larsl | Maybe they did a typo. |
21:58.59 | Patlabor221 | I think gnu on windows |
21:59.02 | Patlabor221 | not just any gnu |
21:59.49 | Patlabor221 | so what did you define it as? |
21:59.50 | larsl | The condition basically says 'if not non-GNU WIN32' |
22:00.08 | larsl | If I change the single time _cdecl appears to __cdecl, everything works. |
22:00.21 | Patlabor221 | soo maybe I don't have GNUC defined |
22:00.51 | larsl | I don't think that's it. |
22:01.02 | Patlabor221 | what shoudl the line be then? |
22:01.10 | Patlabor221 | ohh 2 __ |
22:01.11 | Patlabor221 | got it |
22:01.19 | larsl | I think the FMOD people made a mistake. |
22:01.40 | Patlabor221 | they musta |
22:01.46 | larsl | Where it defined F_CALLBACKAPI |
22:01.58 | Patlabor221 | yeah see it now |
22:02.19 | Patlabor221 | ahh there it goes :) |
22:02.23 | Patlabor221 | thank you soo much |
22:02.31 | larsl | I can't build the whole thing though, it complains about not finding fmod in /usr/lib. |
22:02.35 | larsl | You're welcome. =) |
22:03.27 | larsl | If you want to be portable you might want to change those library checks, the libraries doesn't have to be in /usr/lib. |
22:03.43 | Patlabor221 | ohh they don't |
22:04.00 | Patlabor221 | I just did what cap told me to do :) |
22:04.11 | larsl | /usr/lib is usually what the distribution provides. |
22:04.30 | larsl | Other software could go in /usr/local/lib, /opt/lib, /usr/X11R6/lib... |
22:04.34 | Patlabor221 | can I make the link grab it from like a folder |
22:04.41 | Patlabor221 | ohh ok |
22:04.46 | Patlabor221 | what is best? |
22:04.50 | larsl | This is where autoconf comes in handy. =) |
22:05.08 | Patlabor221 | yeah I just wanted somethign fast to help me make |
22:05.15 | Patlabor221 | want to set it up to use auto conf :) |
22:05.57 | Patlabor221 | I can make you an ssh account so you can check in :) |
22:06.00 | larsl | Hmm, I though I had GLU installed. |
22:06.28 | larsl | Not right now... I could look at it later, maybe. |
22:06.39 | Patlabor221 | hey wenever |
22:06.49 | Patlabor221 | at least you got the nasty thing done |
22:17.55 | larsl | Yay, it's running! |
22:35.42 | Patlabor221 | amazing |
22:35.52 | Noodleman_work | screamers? |
22:35.55 | Noodleman_work | does it run? |
22:36.06 | Patlabor221 | looks like it |
22:36.12 | Noodleman_work | kewl |
22:36.44 | Patlabor221 | after larsl helped find the typo in fmod :) |
22:37.53 | Noodleman_work | :-P |
22:41.36 | Patlabor221 | seems most systems ship with GL 1.1 headers too :( |
22:41.41 | Patlabor221 | not 1.2 or 1.3 |
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