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00:00.10Patlabor221there ya go
00:01.19Patlabor221uck looks like we get crap prices on PCI cards
00:01.32Patlabor221cap, tell scan I may have a PCI TNT2, I'll look
00:01.34Noodleman_workit looks like it left portland this afternoon :-)
00:01.40[STC]_creeperz~creeperz
00:01.40a little man who stalks in shadows and crawls on the ground...sorta like a tank.
00:01.40Patlabor221that woudl work and take the nvidias
00:01.51Patlabor221huzah
00:01.51[STC]_creeperz~stc
00:01.52methinks stc is spine tinglaz clan, name property of [STC] creeperz
00:02.07dougheckahe said he dont want a tnt2
00:02.16[STC]_creeperz~forget creeperz
00:02.16i didn't have anything called 'creeperz', [STC]_creeperz
00:02.24Patlabor221ohh ok
00:02.34[STC]_creeperz~forget creeperz
00:02.34[STC]_creeperz: i didn't have anything called 'creeperz'
00:02.39[STC]_creeperzYES YOU DID!
00:02.58Patlabor221thought he wanted one that just took the nvidias
00:03.09[STC]_creeperzibot, creeperz is <reply> a little man who stalks in shadows and crawls on the ground...sorta like a tank. Terry Caulfield || www.creeperz.com
00:03.10okay, [STC]_creeperz
00:03.17[STC]_creeperz~creeperz
00:03.17a little man who stalks in shadows and crawls on the ground...sorta like a tank. Terry Caulfield
00:03.29Patlabor221doug he said nothing about a TNT2
00:04.13doughecka[18:34] <scanline> and I hate TNT2s
00:04.26Patlabor221ahh
00:04.37captain_protonPatlabor221: he told me he's had enough of tnt2s, and would rather wait until he has the money to get a gf2
00:05.04Patlabor221how much he got?
00:05.05[STC]_creeperzNoodleman
00:05.48[STC]_creeperzHmmm
00:06.53[STC]_creeperzNoodleman_work: Did you say that you might burn 9.0 for me and mail them?
00:07.17[STC]_creeperzHmmm, a Tri- boot would be very interesting :)
00:07.18Patlabor2219 just came out today
00:07.22[STC]_creeperzI know
00:07.28Patlabor221and only for registerd users
00:07.33[STC]_creeperzI know
00:07.44[STC]_creeperzBut he can still send it to me, right?
00:07.50Patlabor221is noodle a registerd user?
00:07.53[STC]_creeperzJeff: is SuSe any good?
00:07.56Patlabor221can he download them
00:07.59[STC]_creeperzYes
00:07.59[STC]_creeperzHe is
00:08.02Patlabor221dono, never used it
00:08.02[STC]_creeperzYea
00:08.05[STC]_creeperzOh
00:08.16[STC]_creeperzHe said he is a subscriber
00:08.21Patlabor221keen
00:08.31[STC]_creeperzI am not really keen
00:08.47Patlabor221then unkeen
00:08.57[STC]_creeperz"The rest of [my] mind is cloged with malted hops and bong resin"
00:09.13Noodleman_workinsult [STC]_creeperz
00:09.13Noodlebot[STC]_creeperz, thou idol of idiot-worshippers!
00:09.14Patlabor221perhaps you watch that movie too much
00:09.26[STC]_creeperz4 times
00:09.28[STC]_creeperz:\
00:09.35Noodleman_workwhich movie is that?
00:09.37[STC]_creeperzAnd you said that to me the other day :)
00:09.43[STC]_creeperzBlack Sheep
00:09.45[STC]_creeperzNo
00:09.47[STC]_creeperzTommy Boy
00:09.53[STC]_creeperzTommy Boy is a great movie
00:09.54Noodleman_workhmm
00:10.00Noodleman_worknever heard of it :-P
00:10.09[STC]_creeperzYou've never seen nor heard of it?!
00:10.13[STC]_creeperzOk
00:10.14Noodleman_worknope
00:10.20[STC]_creeperzWhere is this from...:
00:10.22Noodleman_workonly the *good* movies
00:10.24Noodleman_work:-)
00:11.32Patlabor221had some funny moment
00:11.42[STC]_creeperz"A swallow carrying a coconut?" "It could grip it by the husk" "It's not a question of where he GRIPS it, its a matter of weight ratios; a 5 ounce bird cannot carry a 1 pound coconut"
00:12.31[STC]_creeperzGood News! : I'm selling my car for $1500! Most going toward a new computer!
00:12.48[STC]_creeperzThen I can strip this one out and put a REAL OS on it ;-)
00:13.03Noodleman_workyou can get a brand new really good computer for $500
00:13.10[STC]_creeperzDell?
00:13.15Noodleman_worknope
00:13.21Noodleman_workwith dell you pay for the name
00:13.26[STC]_creeperzYea
00:13.37[STC]_creeperzBut they make OK computers
00:13.51[STC]_creeperzBut I still say they're just a marketing scheme
00:13.57Patlabor221define OK?
00:13.58Noodleman_workyou can get a computer of the same quality for half the price
00:14.09Patlabor221I can sell you a $350 computer
00:14.10[STC]_creeperz~dict OK
00:14.13Patlabor221a good one
00:14.15[STC]_creeperzNew?
00:14.20Patlabor221yup
00:14.26Noodleman_workso'nuff
00:14.27[STC]_creeperzWhere?
00:14.39[STC]_creeperzOS?
00:14.41Patlabor221the other company I work for
00:14.45Patlabor221dosn't come with an OS
00:14.58[STC]_creeperzNo
00:15.00[STC]_creeperzHmm
00:15.02Noodleman_workyou can get xp home for $90
00:15.08Noodleman_workor free...
00:15.10[STC]_creeperzReally?
00:15.10Noodleman_work:-)
00:15.44[STC]_creeperzGo to Japan: The buy and sell in their marketplaces for 1/3 of the estimated price in America on USA goods
00:15.49[STC]_creeperzThey*
00:16.08[STC]_creeperzBRB
00:16.22[STC]_creeperzBack
00:16.38[STC]_creeperzI closed my Java Applet window and now I'm superman!
00:16.39Patlabor221we can sell XP too for another 90 or so
00:16.51[STC]_creeperzHmm
00:16.58[STC]_creeperzI want it to come with XP
00:17.17Patlabor221then pay 90 more and we will install it
00:17.18[STC]_creeperzCommador 64 ;-)
00:17.23Patlabor221http://www.rgpsales.com/Systems.htm
00:17.32[STC]_creeperzYou make comps at GibbsCAM?
00:17.38captain_protonsigh
00:18.06Noodleman_workdifferent company
00:18.10[STC]_creeperzOh
00:18.15Noodleman_worklook at the freakin' url :-)
00:18.16[STC]_creeperzWhat kind of Processor?
00:18.18Patlabor221no I have 2 jobs
00:18.23[STC]_creeperzI saw ;)
00:18.26[STC]_creeperzCool
00:18.31Patlabor221we have Durrons and athalong XPs
00:18.32[STC]_creeperzProcessor?
00:18.36[STC]_creeperzHmm
00:18.38Patlabor221using all DDR now
00:18.49Patlabor221you could also upgrade to a slightly better video card
00:18.51[STC]_creeperzBetter than Pentium 4 I guess
00:18.53Patlabor221like a GF 4 MX
00:19.01Patlabor221comparable to some of them
00:19.04captain_protonfie fi fo fum...i smell the blood of an ATHLON
00:19.05Patlabor221just a lot cheaper
00:19.05[STC]_creeperzGF 4 MX is kinda spendy?
00:19.15Patlabor221huh?
00:19.20Patlabor221they are under 60
00:19.24Patlabor221for a MX
00:19.25[STC]_creeperzOh
00:19.29Patlabor221they are the crap card
00:19.35[STC]_creeperz?
00:19.39[STC]_creeperzMX is?
00:19.42Patlabor221yeah
00:19.44Patlabor221no shaders
00:19.50Patlabor221but they work for most things
00:19.51[STC]_creeperzG-Force is not a crap company
00:20.00Patlabor221g-froce isn't a company
00:20.07[STC]_creeperzOh yes :(
00:20.12Patlabor221the MX line is the low end of Nvidia's chipsets
00:20.17Patlabor221they work just fine
00:20.17[STC]_creeperzOh
00:20.22Patlabor221but they don't have shaders
00:20.28Patlabor221but again they are a lot cheaper
00:20.31[STC]_creeperzSo, what can I get "The bang for the buck"?
00:20.40Patlabor221a MX
00:20.45[STC]_creeperzGood
00:20.47[STC]_creeperzStable
00:20.49[STC]_creeperz?
00:20.52Patlabor221for the games you probably have you don't need shaders
00:20.53Patlabor221sure
00:20.54Noodleman_workyup
00:21.09[STC]_creeperzReliablity?
00:21.14Noodleman_workbzflag works perfectly on a geforce 4 mx
00:21.15Patlabor221for 500 we can probably get you a XP1700 or 1900
00:21.19Patlabor221ohh yeah
00:21.25Patlabor221bz dosn't do any shaders
00:21.31[STC]_creeperzGreat
00:21.34Patlabor221have some GF2 MXs in some machines
00:21.41Patlabor221they are as low as I will go
00:21.51[STC]_creeperzHm
00:21.54[STC]_creeperzUmm
00:22.05Patlabor221but then I am stuck up when it comes to video hardware
00:22.09[STC]_creeperzI'm new to computers and makes and lines and stuff
00:22.17Patlabor221and I call this Radeon 9700 crap
00:22.30[STC]_creeperzDoes it come with a monitor?
00:22.35Patlabor221no
00:22.42Patlabor221but we can get monitors as well
00:22.49Patlabor221I think 17's are about 120
00:22.52[STC]_creeperzThat's one down...And a save!
00:22.56Patlabor221we have some in stock
00:22.59[STC]_creeperzNot too bad
00:23.07Patlabor221and I think we are using DDR now
00:23.19captain_protonhmm
00:23.24[STC]_creeperzAnd it really has a plexi-glass case on the side?
00:23.25Patlabor221and they come with burners
00:23.29[STC]_creeperzCool
00:23.29captain_protonPatlabor221: you realize you keep adding letters to 'athlon' ?
00:23.31Patlabor221that is one of the cases
00:23.36Patlabor221that case costs more
00:23.37captain_protoni just noticed that you're up to 'athalong'
00:23.39Patlabor221I know I can't type
00:23.44Patlabor221:)
00:23.52Patlabor221athalong-ginseg tea
00:24.12[STC]_creeperz"curent projects" on www.artemisgames.com :)
00:24.24Patlabor221I have current progjects?
00:24.27captain_protonhmm...tea...good idea...
00:24.40[STC]_creeperzCurent Projects
00:24.53Patlabor221least I didn't do bzfalg like I do sometimes
00:25.02[STC]_creeperz:)
00:25.21[STC]_creeperzGood thing that you didn't spell it BZFlag...With the "L"
00:25.34[STC]_creeperzWithout*
00:25.35Patlabor221the case with the window costs us about  2x as much as the other one
00:25.41[STC]_creeperzOh
00:25.46Patlabor221I have forgoten the F also
00:25.47[STC]_creeperzI don't really need a window
00:25.54Patlabor221no I mean the entire case
00:26.04[STC]_creeperzOh
00:26.04Patlabor221the window is even an nother 8$
00:26.14Patlabor221the cheap systems don't have that nice case
00:26.18[STC]_creeperzThe case costs alot?
00:26.28[STC]_creeperzApprox.?
00:26.51Patlabor221dono we don't usualy do AMD systems with that case
00:27.00Patlabor221but figure add about 25$ for that case
00:27.16[STC]_creeperzOk, let me see, all I get is a blank computer, no monitor, no case?
00:27.24Patlabor221this would be a good system for you
00:27.25Patlabor221http://www.rgpsales.com/system3.htm
00:27.38Patlabor221it is a complete system without monitor
00:27.47Patlabor221case, keyboard, mouse, speakers
00:27.49Patlabor221all that
00:28.05Patlabor221just no OS
00:28.21Patlabor221for that we offer XP at $95 installed
00:28.22[STC]_creeperzAnd I can buy the monitor (17") for $150?
00:28.27Patlabor221about yes
00:28.29Patlabor221maybe less
00:28.32[STC]_creeperzGood
00:28.41[STC]_creeperzAnd how much for the computer itself?
00:28.58Patlabor221on the AMD it's a good mobo too, will take SDRAM or DDR
00:29.16[STC]_creeperzThe cost
00:29.19Patlabor221ohh no that's on even the beter mobo
00:29.24Patlabor221look at the page
00:29.25[STC]_creeperzFor a nice, yet affordable one?
00:29.29Patlabor221479
00:29.40[STC]_creeperz479? Plus 150
00:29.43Patlabor221it can go less for a durron
00:29.55[STC]_creeperz~add 500 and 150
00:30.11[STC]_creeperzNo one made an "add" command?
00:30.12Patlabor221that would be for a nice system
00:30.21Patlabor221cus it's easy to do
00:30.26doughecka~500 + 150
00:30.27650
00:30.27[STC]_creeperzAnd a CD burner?
00:30.33[STC]_creeperzOh
00:30.34[STC]_creeperz:)
00:30.35Patlabor221yeah
00:30.38Patlabor221you could get this one
00:30.38Patlabor221http://www.rgpsales.com/system2.htm
00:30.43Patlabor221and upgrade the video
00:30.49Patlabor221and add XP
00:31.07Patlabor221they come with compact flash readers too
00:31.11Patlabor221we got those cheap
00:31.33[STC]_creeperzFlash readers?
00:31.41Patlabor221tho we do use a slightly difrent mobo now
00:31.48Noodleman_workwow
00:31.49Patlabor221and the drive is a bit larger
00:31.52Patlabor22140 instead of 20
00:31.59dougheckaPatlabor221: how much are those CF readers?
00:32.08Noodleman_work$369, and it's got 256 of ddr
00:32.18Patlabor221doug proallby lke $5
00:32.25dougheckawow
00:32.29Patlabor221don't know if we have sold them individual
00:32.33Patlabor221we get them for like $3
00:32.38dougheckacool
00:32.43Noodleman_worki might have to get one of these :-)
00:33.03Patlabor221noodle I think it's 349 now not 369
00:33.08Patlabor221we ran outa those mobos
00:33.15Patlabor221so the prices changed
00:33.28Patlabor221dosn't have a realtech card anymore ether
00:33.38Noodleman_workwhich card then?
00:33.51Patlabor221it's on the mobo
00:34.02Noodleman_workwhich chipset?
00:34.04Patlabor221it uses the ECS k7s5a mobo
00:34.07[dmp]~ducatictf
00:34.07Noodleman_workthat's what i meant
00:34.09Patlabor221using an SIS chipset
00:34.17Noodleman_worknetwork chipset?
00:34.17[dmp]~ducatictf
00:34.29Patlabor221it's part of the southbridge
00:34.36Noodleman_workah
00:34.46Patlabor221redhat installs fine on it, and finds the nic
00:34.55Noodleman_workkewl
00:34.58Patlabor221nuku nuku is using that mobo right now
00:35.01Noodleman_workdoes it netboot, too?
00:35.10Patlabor221it had options for that yes
00:35.15Patlabor221tho I never used it
00:35.16Noodleman_workgood :-)
00:35.31Noodleman_worki like to be able to do that, even tho i don't very often
00:35.33Noodleman_workhehe
00:35.42Patlabor221the bios is rather neat, you can hit F8 at bios time and manualy pick a boot device
00:35.55Noodleman_workthat's nice
00:35.57Patlabor221with out going in and changing the bios setings
00:36.06Patlabor221so like if you want to CD boot just one time
00:36.14Noodleman_workSwap 32x CD-ROM for 16x DVD-ROM w/PowerDVD software  $0
00:36.18Noodleman_workis that true?
00:36.22Patlabor221yes
00:36.25Patlabor221they cost the same for us
00:36.31Noodleman_workah
00:36.38Noodleman_workas Patlabor221 says, keen
00:36.39Noodleman_work:-)
00:37.10Patlabor221we also have like 170$ DVD-Rs
00:37.35Patlabor221tho we do prefer to take paypall
00:38.38Noodleman_workbrb
00:38.38Patlabor221and if you wanted a intell system we can do those as well
00:40.00dougheckahow about a PPC?
00:40.01doughecka:P
00:44.28Patlabor221a G4
00:44.32Patlabor221we can problably get one
00:44.50[STC]_creeperzJeff: How many USB ports does it come with?
00:45.35Patlabor22110
00:45.39Patlabor221I think
00:45.46Patlabor221or maybe 8
00:45.48[STC]_creeperz...:D
00:45.54dougheckaheh
00:45.55[STC]_creeperz8 is more than enough!
00:46.05Patlabor221it will have at least 4 hooked up
00:46.06[STC]_creeperzBack to dinner
00:46.14[STC]_creeperz4 is good
00:46.21Patlabor221it has more but they don't have enough ports in the case
00:46.23[STC]_creeperzI have 3 things I need manditory!
00:46.27[STC]_creeperzOh
00:46.33[STC]_creeperzExternal?
00:46.42Patlabor221yah 2 in front, 2 in back
00:46.51[STC]_creeperzPrinter, Cable modem, Joystick
00:46.53Patlabor221then some more insdie for like the card reader
00:46.58[STC]_creeperzOh
00:47.01[STC]_creeperzG2G
00:47.06[STC]_creeperzFOOD!
00:47.07Patlabor221you have a USB cable modem, I'm soo sorry
00:47.10[STC]_creeperz~moo noodleman
00:47.12ACTION moos at noodleman
00:47.15[STC]_creeperzHeh
00:47.28[STC]_creeperzMake fun of Noodle because I'm eatin' cow tunite!
00:48.00*** join/#bzflag Noodleman_work (~tuckerm@mercury.coinet.com)
00:48.40Patlabor221I feel so bad for anyone who has to use a USB cable or DSL modem
00:48.50Noodleman_workhehe
00:49.06Patlabor221all the wonderfull DMA they are missing
00:49.12Patlabor221and all the CPU they give up
00:49.13dougheckahehehe
00:50.10Patlabor221"oh no, please, here kick my net connection and general performance square in the nutz"
00:50.38Patlabor221proalby USB 1.0 too
00:50.42dougheckayup
00:51.25Patlabor221I think the CF readers read, SM and some other media formats too
00:51.28Patlabor221like 6 of them
00:51.33Patlabor221SM and SD
00:51.35Patlabor221and something else
00:52.38Patlabor221wow, 3.2k a sec from readhat
00:52.41Patlabor221that's some speed
00:52.46Patlabor221ooooo 3.45
00:53.15dougheckawow
00:53.17dougheckaimpressive
00:53.24dougheckaI thought you upgraded from dialup
00:53.24Patlabor2213.5 baby!
00:53.32Patlabor221so did I
00:53.43Noodleman_workdialup r0x0rZ!
00:53.44Patlabor221this is on the T1
00:53.48dougheckahahah
00:54.02Noodleman_worki could uncap my cable modem and have a T1 :-P
00:54.04Patlabor221think maybe the rest of the world wants redhat 9 as well
00:54.22Patlabor221but then "theman" would be all up in ya
00:54.24dougheckaNoodleman_work: you got the bail for jail?
00:54.37Noodleman_worki could uncap my cable modem and maybe have a qhole DS3 :-D
00:55.01dougheckahaha
00:55.09Noodleman_worki found out that uncapping a cable modem is a very trivial exercise
00:55.12Noodleman_work:-)
00:55.21Patlabor221in my bathroom
00:55.49dougheckain the toilet even
00:55.59Patlabor221no that's just silly
00:56.18Noodleman_workeverytime someone downloads a big file would be a shocking experience
00:56.22Noodleman_work:-)
00:56.35Patlabor221and don't ask what the flusher does
00:56.39Noodleman_workno one likes my dumb jokes :-(
00:56.56dougheckalol
00:59.54Patlabor221hmmmm I wonder if I send scanline a PCI GF2MX if he will set up some sort of  VCS for me :)
01:00.06Noodleman_workwhat's VCS?
01:00.16Noodleman_work~dict VCS
01:00.17Patlabor221Version Controll System
01:00.20Noodleman_workah
01:00.21Patlabor221liek CVS
01:00.27Patlabor221or Subversion
01:00.38Noodleman_workhehe
01:00.48Noodleman_worki can set up a cvs server for ya
01:01.05Patlabor221I have the server, just don't know how to set it up
01:01.14Patlabor221I'd like it on bakadigital.
01:01.19Patlabor221read the docs
01:01.23Patlabor221and didn't get them
01:01.25Noodleman_workhttp://www.tldp.org/
01:02.16Patlabor221ohh I found full on tutorials
01:02.41Patlabor221just they seemed to asume that I knew more about general unix admin then I do now
01:02.52Patlabor221and that page is ugly :)
01:07.50Patlabor221anyone know scanline's email?
01:08.43dougheckahmm
01:08.52dougheckasomething@picogui.com
01:08.57Patlabor221I found him
01:11.48dougheckaooh
01:11.51Patlabor221and a TNt
01:12.00dougheckaa tnt even if I had to
01:12.11Patlabor221tnt is not PCI
01:12.16dougheckaoh?
01:12.19dougheckaany of them pci?
01:12.21Patlabor221one GF goes to scanline
01:12.27Patlabor221other stays as backup
01:12.41dougheckadarn
01:13.16[STC]_creeperzMmmm
01:13.24dougheckahah
01:13.26dougheckagood luck
01:13.37[STC]_creeperzI just ate Noodleman's forbidden food
01:13.50Patlabor221hmmm and maybe I can use the nic as leverage to get noodleman to help me set up a CVS server using SSH :)
01:13.51[STC]_creeperzForget I said that
01:14.12dougheckahh
01:14.13dougheckahah
01:14.21dougheckasend me something so I can do something for you...
01:14.25dougheckalike... um....
01:14.27dougheckadunno
01:14.29Patlabor221?
01:14.36[STC]_creeperzA useless jpeg?
01:14.49[STC]_creeperzA virus?
01:14.57Patlabor221hmmm I could make a game programing contest, and the prize would be something form the bin.
01:15.07[STC]_creeperzAhhh!
01:15.14Patlabor221the bin holds many secrets
01:15.29Patlabor221look a ppt zip drive
01:15.37dougheckabah
01:15.42dougheckazip drives
01:16.18Patlabor221huh? they are cheap
01:16.26Patlabor221well zip100's are
01:17.14dougheckayea, but cd-rws work better
01:17.16dougheckaand hold more
01:17.23Patlabor221but are slower
01:17.34Patlabor221tho they do cost less
01:17.44[STC]_creeperzHmm
01:17.49Patlabor221cds I mean
01:17.55dougheckayea
01:17.55[STC]_creeperzYes
01:17.58Patlabor221a burner is the same price as a zip
01:18.03[STC]_creeperzReally?
01:18.09Patlabor221bout %30
01:18.13Patlabor221$30
01:18.20dougheckaa 48x16x48 is 20
01:18.22dougheckawith a rebate
01:20.34*** join/#bzflag TimRiker (~timr@66.147.151.194)
01:21.47doughecka'lo
01:24.02[STC]_creeperz?
01:25.06[STC]_creeperzibot, How are you is <reply> Just fine, how about you?
01:25.08I think you lost me on that one, [STC]_creeperz
01:25.17[STC]_creeperzibot How are you is <reply> Just fine, how about you
01:25.18I think you lost me on that one, [STC]_creeperz
01:25.21[STC]_creeperzHmm
01:25.26[STC]_creeperzWhy won't he do it?
01:25.58[STC]_creeperzibot, how are you
01:25.58[STC]_creeperz: just great
01:26.02[STC]_creeperzOhhhh
01:26.07Noodlemanmoo
01:26.08[STC]_creeperzibot, want some botsmack?
01:26.09[STC]_creeperz: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface.
01:26.17Noodleman~botsmack
01:26.17sure, wanna snort some with me?
01:26.21Noodlemanhehe
01:26.23[STC]_creeperzHeh
01:26.32[STC]_creeperzStupid druggie :-)
01:27.10[STC]_creeperzThere's a weird thing on On TV, on Unsolved Mysteries. There is a thing on Exercism!
01:29.11Patlabor221exorcisms can be hard, sometimes you need a stake
01:29.50[STC]_creeperzAnd a mallet
01:30.00Patlabor221pfffft naw
01:30.03Patlabor221only if you are weak
01:30.33Patlabor221you think they hold still while you use a mallet?
01:30.58Patlabor221both of those exist
01:31.15Patlabor221tho the bz tank is non manifold so it may not work well
01:31.26[STC]_creeperz3D Printing software? So you can make a 3D image, with length, width, and height?
01:31.38[STC]_creeperzYes :-)
01:31.42Patlabor221yes, and unfold it so it can be cut out
01:31.49[STC]_creeperzOhh
01:31.51Patlabor221and fiolded and glued
01:31.59[STC]_creeperzAnd cut and paste!
01:32.04Patlabor221yes
01:32.17Patlabor221or some do outlines that you cut out and glue in stacks
01:32.36[STC]_creeperzYes
01:32.38dougheckayou can also get a device that can print out 3d stuff
01:32.38Patlabor221or you could get an STL machine
01:32.48Patlabor221or a CNC
01:32.53dougheckagive it a few hours and you have a little tank
01:32.53[STC]_creeperz...Doug, I mentioned that earlier ;-)
01:32.54Patlabor221and some aluminum
01:33.14[STC]_creeperzAnd little plasma balls
01:33.22Patlabor221plasma?
01:33.33[STC]_creeperzThat's what BZFlag's bullets look like
01:33.39Patlabor221I don't think they use superheated gas, or human blood part
01:33.52Patlabor221you know those are just flat planes right?
01:33.54[STC]_creeperzBalls that are not affected by inertia, gravity, ect.
01:34.03[STC]_creeperz:)
01:34.35[STC]_creeperzPlasma is the clear stuff in you blood...no, I think it's yellow...
01:34.48Patlabor221clear
01:34.53[STC]_creeperzAhh
01:35.21[STC]_creeperzThen after I pick off a scab, let it bleed, wipe it clean, and that's that clear stuff that comes back after a while?
01:35.46Patlabor221dude, thats nasty
01:35.53[STC]_creeperzWhat?
01:35.56Noodlemanhehe
01:36.02[STC]_creeperz:-]
01:36.51[STC]_creeperzThe bishop of the Huron Ward's LDS church got harassing phone calls at midnight like 4 days a go...
01:36.58Patlabor221why does lighting have to make brain hurt?
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01:37.13Noodlemancya
01:37.15Noodleman:-P
01:37.18[STC]_creeperzThat was when it ended, 4 days ago
01:37.25[STC]_creeperz|-)
01:37.39[STC]_creeperz_|
01:37.54[STC]_creeperzI see |_| !
01:38.06Patlabor221so you are saying you harass your bishop?
01:38.12[STC]_creeperzNo
01:38.17[STC]_creeperzSomeone was...
01:38.28[STC]_creeperzNot me
01:38.41Patlabor221then why the |-)
01:38.48Patlabor221that's a sceeming face if I ever saw one
01:38.54[STC]_creeperz?
01:39.15Patlabor221or a cromagnon
01:39.27[STC]_creeperzJeff
01:39.33[STC]_creeperzWanna see my new game?
01:39.39Patlabor221sure
01:39.57[STC]_creeperzAccept
01:40.34[STC]_creeperzIt's pretty neat-0!
01:40.41[STC]_creeperzNoodleman even liked it :-)
01:40.49Patlabor221noodle, do you think you could set up a CVS server for me on Bakadigital, if I got you a ssh account?
01:40.58Noodleman:-)
01:41.03[STC]_creeperzHeh
01:41.09NoodlemanPatlabor221: probably
01:41.13Noodlemani'd need r00t
01:41.15[STC]_creeperzI think I'm having de-va-vu
01:41.21[STC]_creeperzI think I'm having de-va-vu
01:41.22Patlabor221not a problem
01:41.25Noodleman[STC]_creeperz :-P
01:41.33[STC]_creeperz;-)
01:41.57Noodlemani could do that
01:42.00[STC]_creeperzTim is not op?
01:42.11[STC]_creeperzImposter?
01:42.17[STC]_creeperzOr real Tim?
01:42.28captain_protonug
01:42.30[STC]_creeperzCheck out THAT game Jeff ;-)
01:42.58[STC]_creeperzNoodleman: I sent him the one I sent you :-p
01:43.12Patlabor221umm it runs and quits
01:43.20[STC]_creeperzLook at the top left
01:43.33[STC]_creeperzRun it again
01:43.37Patlabor221didn't see anything
01:43.38[STC]_creeperzAnd look at the top left
01:43.44Patlabor221just flashes black
01:43.45[STC]_creeperzTry it again...
01:43.51Patlabor221I've done it 3 times
01:43.55[STC]_creeperzHmm
01:44.51[STC]_creeperzUmm, it works
01:44.58[STC]_creeperzIt's WAY up in the left corner
01:45.23[STC]_creeperzNoodleman: It worked for you, right?
01:45.33Noodlemanyup
01:45.44[STC]_creeperzIt said "The Phrase" right?
01:45.52Patlabor221why does it quit right away?
01:46.02[STC]_creeperzI wanted it to
01:46.23Patlabor221why not have it stay around a while
01:46.25[STC]_creeperzI guess I could get it to stay open by puting in the "loop" variable at the end, right?
01:46.30Patlabor221like till a mouse click
01:46.37Patlabor221or a key press
01:46.43Patlabor221I don't remember any basic
01:47.03[STC]_creeperzGood, we're equally challenged!
01:47.04Patlabor221in DB?
01:47.11Patlabor221why would I?
01:47.13[STC]_creeperzYes
01:47.16DB7654321Hey -- stay out of this DB :P
01:47.23[STC]_creeperz?
01:47.25[STC]_creeperz:)
01:47.26[STC]_creeperzHeh
01:47.29[STC]_creeperzLOL!!
01:47.30Patlabor221I use real langs
01:47.44[STC]_creeperzYou told me to use it!
01:47.55Patlabor221cus it's easyer to learn then C
01:47.58Patlabor221and does all the game stuff
01:47.59[STC]_creeperzAnd DB is a real language, and he's comprised of number
01:48.03[STC]_creeperznumbers*
01:48.13Patlabor221I know more then you, so I use better langages
01:48.17[STC]_creeperz;-)
01:48.20DB7654321hehe
01:48.21[STC]_creeperzAhh
01:48.45Patlabor221cap I found a card for scanline, need anything else from the bin?
01:49.04[STC]_creeperzMORE RAM!
01:49.16Patlabor221I don't have cap's type of ram in the bin
01:49.26doughecka:)
01:49.35Patlabor221don't have any dimms
01:49.41captain_protonPatlabor221: what is in the bin?
01:49.42Patlabor221actualy waiting for more to get in
01:49.43dougheckano ddr?
01:49.44[STC]_creeperzSend to me :)
01:49.46dougheckadarn
01:49.55Patlabor221there are many secret things in the bin
01:50.06Patlabor221it's kinda a grab bag thing
01:50.31Patlabor221like little cookies from japan
01:50.36dougheckahow old?
01:50.48Patlabor221dono
01:50.56dougheckaugh
01:53.08Patlabor221a gateway recovery CD version 1.4
01:53.24Patlabor221the soundtrack to "tank girl"
01:53.40Patlabor221in the case to DefLeppard "hysteria"
01:53.58Patlabor221warcraft 3
01:54.06[STC]_creeperz<PROTECTED>
01:54.09[STC]_creeperzCool*
01:54.23Patlabor221a compost manual
01:54.43dougheckahmm
01:54.46dougheckawar craft would be cool
01:54.59Patlabor221diamond steal 3d 2000 drivers for windows 95, 3.1x, and NT 3.51
01:55.28dougheckaerr
01:55.30dougheckawee
01:55.40Patlabor221another compot manual
01:55.46[STC]_creeperzI fart in it's general direction!
01:55.52[STC]_creeperzI un-clog my nose on it!
01:55.55dougheckacompost?
01:56.02dougheckawhat ever for?
01:56.57Patlabor221it's a language
01:57.12Patlabor221have like 5 difrent versions of the manual
01:57.23dougheckaoh
01:57.25Patlabor221techincaly it's my language too
01:57.27dougheckanot compost compost
01:57.34Patlabor221no not poop
01:57.49dougheckaah
01:58.17Patlabor221the GDC 2001 confrence procedings
01:58.27Patlabor221it has heft
01:58.33dougheckalol
01:59.08Patlabor221VS.net final beta 2003
01:59.16Patlabor221it also has heft
01:59.19Patlabor221in the data dept.
01:59.33Patlabor221took 2 dvds
01:59.40dougheckahmm, nah I can download that
01:59.55Patlabor221what you gonna put it on tho?
02:00.10Patlabor221one part is a 1.8 gig exe
02:00.26dougheckaoh my
02:00.29doughecka:)
02:00.39Patlabor221the other part is a 900 meg exe
02:00.43Patlabor221expands ot over 4.5 gigs
02:00.55dougheckasheesh
02:01.15Patlabor221ok time to get my butt home
02:01.22Patlabor221and ponder dinner
02:01.45dougheckaheh
02:01.50dougheckasushi
02:02.01Patlabor221proalby hot pork buns
02:02.22dougheckahmm
02:02.26dougheckasounds better
02:02.41Patlabor221both are good
02:05.57*** part/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@208.48.199.214)
02:06.13[STC]_creeperzNOOOOOOOO!!
02:08.08captain_proton?
02:11.44Noodlemanwhat command do i use to check out bzflag from cvs?
02:12.24dougheckashould enter it into ibot
02:12.34Noodlemani thought it was...
02:13.54captain_protoncvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag
02:14.28[STC]_creeperz~cvs
02:14.28rumour has it, cvs is Concurrent Versions System and is at http://www.handhelds.org/sources.html or at http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/ and at http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2002/01/03/cvs_intro.html and http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2002/01/17/cvsadmin.html and http://www.red-bean.com/cvsbook/
02:14.39doughecka~bzflagcvs is <reply> cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag
02:14.39doughecka: okay
02:14.49Noodlemanthx
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02:19.17Patlabor221ahhh dinner is a cookin
02:19.46[STC]_creeperzCool
02:20.11captain_protonPatlabor221: you might like what we cooked last night:
02:20.20Patlabor221what was it?
02:20.32captain_protonPatlabor221: http://128.138.2.23:3000/thai_peanut_noodles
02:20.34[STC]_creeperzSomething tells me he was already typing and something long!
02:21.13*** join/#bzflag fiberchunks (~fiberchun@237.14.252.64.snet.net)
02:21.14Patlabor221looks good
02:21.20captain_protonwas quite tasty
02:21.27fiberchunkshowdy, howdy
02:21.31[STC]_creeperzNello
02:21.34Patlabor221just making steamed pork buns tongiht
02:21.37captain_protonwe splurged on the red pepper and it was acceptably spicy
02:21.37[STC]_creeperzHello*
02:21.37Patlabor221sup fiber
02:21.56dougheckacaptain_proton: bah, my dad can make better
02:22.01fiberchunksnada, whaz goin on here?
02:22.08fiberchunksworking on my R/C car
02:22.10captain_protondoughecka: how can you judge that if you've never had this?
02:22.27fiberchunksjumbalaya?
02:22.31Patlabor221ohh what one?
02:22.34[STC]_creeperzcaptain_proton: He thinks he know everything...
02:22.39Patlabor221noodle what is the module name?
02:22.41fiberchunksTraxxas Nitro Rustler
02:22.42[STC]_creeperzhttp://128.138.2.23:3000/thai_peanut_noodles
02:22.47[STC]_creeperzfiber ^
02:23.28fiberchunksregretfully there's nowhere near my house that makes any :( just up at work
02:23.56[STC]_creeperzWhat are those Chili Ramen Noodles classified as?
02:24.16dougheckafiberchunks: cook come
02:24.22dougheckasome*
02:24.25[STC]_creeperz"Chili Ramen Noodles"
02:24.25dougheckaRC car?
02:24.31[STC]_creeperzRemote Control
02:24.34fiberchunksPatlabor221: /me is getting an R/C chopper in the not to distant future
02:24.37dougheckaradio control
02:24.43[STC]_creeperzAwesome
02:24.43dougheckacool
02:24.44Patlabor221enver had a traxxas
02:24.52[STC]_creeperzRadio= remote to an extent
02:24.55Patlabor221just little electrics
02:25.23Patlabor221moslty Tamiya's and Associateds
02:25.27fiberchunksI need a mill and lathe to make some of the suspension members more beefy -- they break constantly (which I'm sure traxxas intended as a side revenue)
02:25.43[STC]_creeperzHeh
02:25.47[STC]_creeperzMore than likely!
02:25.47Patlabor221posibly
02:25.49fiberchunksinjection molded crap :(
02:25.54[STC]_creeperzThat's what I might do
02:26.05Patlabor221well or at least to leave way for 3rd party vendors
02:26.10Patlabor221it's common
02:26.15fiberchunksyah
02:26.18[STC]_creeperzAxis of E [ENRON] vil
02:26.42[STC]_creeperzEooohhhh
02:26.45Patlabor221back in the day
02:26.51fiberchunksI don't feel like spending 50 for front and rear aluminum suspension members (so I might as well get the tools to do it with ;) )
02:27.04fiberchunksyeah -- body pan is aluminum
02:27.12fiberchunksrest is plastic
02:27.16[STC]_creeperzLol
02:27.19[STC]_creeperzHmm
02:27.29[STC]_creeperzMy dad had an R/C Racer
02:27.33[STC]_creeperzPretty cool
02:27.39[STC]_creeperzHe installed a parachute
02:27.55[STC]_creeperzHits a ramp, pushes a button, glides down safely
02:28.08Patlabor221well I didn't have to buy them
02:28.23Patlabor221my father used to be a salesman for a hobby distributor
02:28.33Patlabor221just have a Hornet now
02:28.37fiberchunkslemme see, I've had: grasshopper, one that looked like a rally racer and is quite rare today (can't remember the name), and various assorted others -- loved the grasshopper, but I like nitro vehicles more now )
02:28.37Patlabor221needs a new esc
02:28.45[STC]_creeperzMy dad has always been a trucker or an auto-mechanic
02:28.57Patlabor221grasshoper had the same frame as hornet
02:29.21captain_protonyay for listening to Dr. Worm loudly
02:29.30[STC]_creeperzI never heard of it
02:29.31Patlabor221usualy just came with the smaller motor
02:30.29fiberchunks:)
02:30.49[STC]_creeperzLOL!!
02:30.53dougheckawith cameras
02:31.23[STC]_creeperzFiber: That would be awesome!
02:31.39fiberchunksooo, wait, this is #bzflag -- I'd like a 1/4 scale working M1 abrams (with arms, of course)
02:31.50Patlabor221it can be done
02:31.51[STC]_creeperzHeh
02:31.53[STC]_creeperzThat works!
02:32.01dougheckahmm
02:32.02Patlabor2211/4, that large?
02:32.11dougheckahow about a 1/4 scale tank that I can ride in
02:32.19[STC]_creeperz1/16 is a good size if you want to piss someone off
02:32.25Patlabor221http://www.hlj.com/cgi-perl/hljpage.cgi?KNMDC104S
02:32.30Patlabor221you need that fiber
02:32.51fiberchunkscool :)
02:33.05[STC]_creeperzJapenese
02:33.24Patlabor221it shoots other tanks
02:33.37fiberchunksyeah, just reading that -- that's sweet
02:34.02Patlabor221put mini cams on them
02:34.08Patlabor221and hook them to the internet
02:34.22Patlabor221"real" bzflag
02:34.38[STC]_creeperzAWESOME!!
02:34.46fiberchunksactually, Patlabor221, I'm surprised you and proton haven't done that yet ;)
02:34.58[STC]_creeperzSame thought
02:35.00Patlabor221if I was I woldn't use those
02:35.01[STC]_creeperz*s
02:35.10[STC]_creeperzHegh
02:35.10NoodlemanPatlabor221: you can checkin and checkout through ssh, i'm still trying to figure out anonymous access
02:35.12[STC]_creeperzHeh*
02:35.19Patlabor221http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/5776/
02:35.36Patlabor221with http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/59eb/
02:35.56Patlabor221and some sort of induction charging system
02:36.19[STC]_creeperzAwesome
02:36.31Patlabor221just add money
02:37.12dougheckahm, they have those indection charging systems now
02:37.16dougheckaI read it someplace
02:37.31Patlabor221yeah like since the 30s
02:37.47[STC]_creeperzhttp://www.thinkgeek.com/images/action/large/20fb59e.jpg
02:37.56Patlabor221Neekoliii Tessla
02:37.58dougheckano, like a real thing that works with cell phones and pdas and stuff
02:38.03Patlabor221yeah
02:38.07Patlabor221some do it
02:38.17Patlabor221that's how some EVs are charged too
02:38.47Patlabor221tho this would have to be in the floor of the arena
02:38.52Patlabor221and no jumping
02:39.00dougheckabah
02:39.03dougheckano jumping?
02:39.07dougheckahow about CTF?
02:39.16Patlabor221that would be hard :)
02:39.21Patlabor221reemeber everyone has lazer
02:39.40Patlabor221and lag
02:39.45Patlabor221lots of lag
02:40.10dougheckahm
02:40.12dougheckalag?
02:40.20Patlabor221think about what would have to happen
02:40.29dougheckabah
02:40.42Patlabor221would take a bit for it all to work
02:40.51Patlabor221since your sending lots of video
02:41.15dougheckayea
02:41.23dougheckaand tanks dont blow up
02:41.54Patlabor221lots of things dont'' happen
02:41.55Patlabor221no radar
02:41.58fiberchunksmy 5 year is playing GTA 4 and is kickin butt ;)
02:42.10Patlabor221LOL
02:42.14fiberchunkss/year/year old
02:42.42[STC]_creeperzVice City is awesome
02:42.55fiberchunksgot the hunter -- which is a lovely vehicle
02:43.06[STC]_creeperzChopper?
02:43.31fiberchunksROFLMAO -- he was just smackin a cop and saying ---- aaaaaa ,you wanna piece of me? LOL -- what a kid
02:43.38fiberchunksyeah -- apache
02:43.46Patlabor221well lookit that, cvs ness
02:44.03[STC]_creeperzMaybe make an online game? Maybe an online tank game? We can call it... Hmmm...BZFlag!
02:44.54captain_protonMORE TEA
02:45.21[STC]_creeperzIt*
02:46.08[STC]_creeperzLol, how can you have a CTF with those things? Put hooks on the front?
02:46.27Patlabor221magents
02:46.34[STC]_creeperzAhh
02:46.38[STC]_creeperzHow do you drop the flag?
02:46.44Patlabor221EMP
02:46.49[STC]_creeperzHmm
02:47.03[STC]_creeperzKill yourself and surrounding enemies while you're at it!
02:47.17[STC]_creeperzThat should be a Flag
02:47.20[STC]_creeperzEMP
02:47.31[STC]_creeperz"Firing kills all in the surrounding radius
02:47.51dougheckano... gM?>
02:47.56[STC]_creeperz?
02:48.12[STC]_creeperzWatchyu B?
02:48.48dougheckahmm
02:48.49Patlabor221what would be the fun in that flag, if not for a giggling 13 year old?
02:48.50dougheckabrb
02:49.18Patlabor221well scremers is now in a VCS thanks to mr noodle
02:49.42Noodlemanstill working on the pserver for anonymous access
02:49.53Patlabor221well ssh is workin just fine
02:49.58Patlabor221how do I add users?
02:50.00Noodlemanyup
02:50.13Noodlemanadd a user and put them in the cvs group
02:50.19Patlabor221keen
02:50.45Patlabor221should make a bzmaps folder too
02:50.59Patlabor221and I'll put bzedit up there
02:51.27Noodlemanfor screamers, i made the vendortag be bakadigital
02:51.31Noodlemanis that fine?
02:51.36Patlabor221sure
02:51.41Patlabor221what the hell is a vendor tag?
02:51.48Noodlemangood question :-)
02:52.04Noodlemanthe revision tag is v0_0
02:52.29Noodlemanthat's for if you want to do branches and stuff
02:52.43Patlabor221j
02:52.45Patlabor221k
02:52.50Patlabor221being right next to j
02:52.53Noodlemanj/k :-)
02:53.13Patlabor221branches are for whusssys
02:53.22Noodleman:-)
02:53.23Patlabor221wonder if there is a way to do a CVS mirror
02:53.32Noodlemansure
02:53.41Patlabor221like have it get 1.7 from SF every night
02:53.47Patlabor221and serve it up there
02:53.51dougheckaand compile it too
02:53.52doughecka:)
02:53.52Patlabor221just for checkout
02:53.55Noodlemanjust have it update every hour or so
02:54.00Patlabor221it could not build windows
02:54.03Noodlemancvs up
02:54.07dougheckalinux at least
02:54.09Patlabor221just to have a second place for it
02:54.18Patlabor221for when SF goes down
02:55.19Patlabor221hmmm there would be a way to have it make windows
02:55.22Patlabor221and build the installer
02:55.31dougheckawould be really nice
02:55.35Noodlemantask scheduler?
02:55.44dougheckaget cvs without having VC installed
02:55.45Patlabor221naw php or asp
02:55.57Patlabor221cvs is not tied to VC
02:56.10Patlabor221but I could have it do a command line build on windows
02:56.24dougheckacool
02:56.34Patlabor221CVS on lin would update
02:56.45Patlabor221wget a page on the windows web server
02:56.58Patlabor221the windows page would kick off a ftpget of the source
02:57.05Patlabor221then a nmake
02:57.11Patlabor221then build the install
02:57.13Noodlemankewl
02:57.18dougheckahmm
02:57.22Patlabor221and copy to a web dir
02:57.28Patlabor221while lin makes and tarballs
02:57.36dougheckacool
02:57.38Patlabor221would be something to look into later
02:57.40Noodlemansounds cool
02:57.58Patlabor221if I left the mac on it may be able to do the same, asuming mac builds still work
02:58.10dougheckaHAH
02:58.29Patlabor221tho I don't think hourly's would be needed
02:58.32Patlabor221just nightlys
02:58.46Patlabor221cvs could update hourly
02:59.13Patlabor221or subscribe it to the SF list and update on a commit
03:00.02dougheckathat would be smarter
03:01.36Patlabor221but harder
03:05.33Patlabor221has to be a way to get this thing to reember my password
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03:16.51NoodlemanPatlabor221: anonymous cvs access works!
03:17.11Patlabor221schweeet, thanks
03:17.43Noodlemancrap, i thought it did
03:17.46Noodleman:-)
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03:19.47Noodlemanhaha, doug
03:19.50dougheckaawoohaa
03:19.53Noodlemanwe know who you are
03:20.10dougheckaa:)
03:20.22dougheckaaknoppix 3.2 is pretty cool
03:20.31dougheckaaall aqua, with transparent menus and stuff
03:20.39TimRikerno bzflag in the base image though.
03:20.49dougheckaano :(
03:21.00dougheckaabut I did find a gaming knoppix that did have bzflag
03:21.02Noodlemankewl
03:21.03dougheckaabut its older
03:21.37dougheckaaincludes wine too
03:22.13dougheckaaooh, xeyes
03:22.50dougheckaaand I can make a home dir on a usb device :)
03:22.58dougheckaaso I can carry around a whole system with me
03:23.33dougheckaaooh
03:24.19Patlabor221but must figure out the lighting stuff first
03:24.32dougheckaaNoodleman: wow, you have terminal serives running someplace?
03:24.40Noodlemani think so
03:24.56dougheckaaerg, nevermind
03:25.00dougheckaaits for vnc
03:25.05Noodlemanah
03:25.14Noodlemanportscanning me, eh?
03:25.17Patlabor221VNC roxorz
03:25.24Noodlemanscan my network and DIE!
03:25.27Noodleman:-)
03:25.35dougheckaano
03:25.36Patlabor221well all but the file extension
03:25.37larsl~towers
03:26.00dougheckaaI thought this was a terminal services client
03:26.14dougheckaatry sshing in
03:26.23dougheckaaknoppix user and pass is the same
03:26.24dougheckaa:)
03:26.25Noodlemansshing in where?
03:26.29dougheckaame
03:26.33dougheckaaheck.no-ip.com
03:26.34Patlabor221ip?
03:26.39dougheckaaumm
03:27.02dougheckaadunno
03:27.23dougheckaaoooh, the konsole is transparent
03:27.56Patlabor221ssh no go, you have port 22 open?
03:28.05dougheckaaoh drats, it cant find a key
03:28.05Patlabor221and is sshd running?
03:28.15dougheckaait was
03:28.22dougheckaaand I have all ports open
03:28.23dougheckaaoh wel
03:30.34Patlabor221hmm where is there a BZFS that is in daylight?
03:30.40Patlabor221or does it use my local time?
03:31.23dougheckaadunno
03:32.15Patlabor221need to see shadows
03:32.27dougheckaapress + or - to change the time
03:32.29dougheckaaI think
03:32.33dougheckaahold it down
03:32.37dougheckaaworks for me
03:33.23Patlabor221keypad?
03:33.38dougheckaahmm, maybe
03:33.44dougheckaabeen awhile since I tried
03:35.25dougheckaaspooky, download an exe, and it asks me if I want to run it, or save it.
03:35.30NoodlemanPatlabor221: ok, anonymous checkout *does* work :-)
03:35.48Patlabor221flood from noodle?
03:36.36Noodlemani'm checking out
03:36.41Patlabor221hmmm wonder if bz uses a point for the sun or just a vector
03:36.47dougheckaawow
03:36.55dougheckaasubspace installer worked
03:37.11dougheckaahah, I got the icon on my desktop
03:37.21dougheckaaoh bah, dint work
03:38.00Patlabor221hmm got a flood from doug too
03:38.08Patlabor221you 2 must be bots
03:38.11dougheckaaI dint do anything
03:38.13Noodlemando you know if screamers compiles on linux?
03:38.24Patlabor221it should
03:38.35captain_protonat least if Patlabor221 didn't make it all fugged up
03:38.39Noodlemani'll have to try it then
03:38.42Noodlemanhehe
03:38.59Patlabor221well you need fmod 3.6.1
03:39.09Patlabor221and that version of source I posted does make
03:39.15Patlabor221but not in the normal way
03:39.18Patlabor221there is no make all
03:39.32Patlabor221I need to make a shell scipt for it
03:39.52Noodlemanwhere to i get fmod?
03:39.59Patlabor221www.fmod.org :)
03:40.25Patlabor221then do a make in osfile, time, texturemanager, soundmanager, lge, then screamers
03:40.27Patlabor221in that order
03:40.34Noodlemanok
03:41.55Noodlemani don't have to make install, do i?
03:42.02Patlabor221no
03:42.16Patlabor221when it's all done there should be a screamers file in the same folder as data
03:42.21Patlabor221run that
03:42.24Noodlemanok
03:43.18Patlabor221what do shells scripts have to start with?
03:44.12Patlabor221#!/bin/sh
03:44.12Patlabor221?
03:44.15Noodlemanyup
03:44.27Patlabor221and then # is a comment?
03:44.34Noodlemanyes
03:45.10dougheckaaooh man, this is soo easy
03:45.11dougheckaa:)
03:46.57Noodlemani guess it needs sdl :-)
03:47.13Patlabor221ohh yes it does
03:47.14Patlabor221sorry
03:47.23Noodlemanthat's fine
03:47.36Patlabor221how would I check for that in the build
03:47.41Noodlemana simple apt-get command takes care of that
03:47.45Noodlemannot sure
03:48.05Patlabor221or if a file exists
03:49.11Noodlemanif [-e filename] then dosomething fi
03:50.01Noodlemanyou could use autoconf
03:50.08Noodlemanyou have to learn how first tho
03:50.29Patlabor221how can I have the scrpt jump to the end
03:50.39Noodlemannot sure
03:50.54Noodlemanyou mean have it quit?
03:50.56Patlabor221yeah
03:50.59Noodlemanexit
03:52.25NoodlemanWorld.h:13:20: coldet.h: No such file or directory
03:52.41Patlabor221damnit
03:52.45Patlabor221I commited
03:52.46Patlabor221crap
03:52.52Patlabor221didn't mean to
03:52.59Patlabor221that's part of the new stuff
03:53.10Patlabor221hmmm let me blow it out
03:53.14Patlabor221and update CVS
03:53.25Patlabor221or is there a way to roll it back to the first update?
03:53.41Noodlemani don't know
03:53.45Noodlemanthere probably is
03:54.00Noodleman-r v0_0
03:54.03Noodlemantry that
03:54.11Patlabor221no you try that :)
03:54.17Noodlemanoh
03:54.22Noodlemanyeah :-P'''''
03:54.31Patlabor221that should give you the code from the inital update
03:54.48Patlabor221seems I added clodet part way
03:57.21Noodlemanoh yeah, of course that won't work
03:57.40Patlabor221didn't tag did we?
03:58.07Noodlemani did tag
03:58.17Noodlemanbut if you update
03:58.23Patlabor221like I did
03:58.37Noodlemanthen it will update the whole branch
03:58.39Patlabor221ether I update with the old code again, or we need to roll back
03:58.49Noodlemanupdate with the old code
03:58.55Patlabor221we should have done a verison tag before I updated
03:58.58Noodlemani don't know how to roll back
03:58.58Patlabor221geting it now
03:59.03Patlabor221nor do I
04:02.24Patlabor221does that look like an ok script ?
04:02.24Patlabor221http://www.bakadigital.com/make_all
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04:03.08dougheckagreetings
04:03.19Noodlemanyou probably should check for the opengl headers too
04:03.33captain_protoncp *.h ../include/*.h <-- huh?
04:04.03NoodlemanGL/gl.h and GL/glu.h
04:04.22Patlabor221copies the latest headers to the include dir, it's lame but it's how I do it
04:04.38Patlabor221need to make it just use them from there
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04:04.58captain_protonPatlabor221: shouldn't that be 'cp *.h ../include/' ?
04:05.16Patlabor221yeah since it's not windows :)
04:05.56Patlabor221it's trying to update now
04:07.36Patlabor221how would I check for the GL headers?
04:07.59Patlabor221in /usr/include/GL/gl.h?
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04:08.11[STC]_creeperzOopz
04:08.17captain_proton[ -f /usr/include/GL/gl.h ] :)
04:08.28Noodlemancheck for /usr/include/GL/gl.h and /usr/include/GL/glu.h
04:08.33Patlabor221how is that difrent then -e?
04:08.43Patlabor221find?
04:08.45Noodlemannot sure
04:09.19captain_proton-e means exists, -f means regular file
04:10.21Patlabor221hmmm this CVs seems to be hung up
04:11.32Patlabor221or not
04:11.56Patlabor221just sending a lot of data
04:11.57[STC]_creeperzNoodle: is XChat cool?
04:12.04Patlabor221xchat is cool
04:12.12[STC]_creeperzHmm
04:12.15Patlabor221trillian is kinda cooler
04:12.15Noodlemansure
04:12.26[STC]_creeperzI never like Trillian
04:12.28Patlabor221is that why you version pinnged eberyone?
04:12.35[STC]_creeperzNot everyone
04:12.43dougheckahere goes the repartitioning of my drive
04:12.46[STC]_creeperzJust Noobleman, Bot, ibot, and you
04:12.51Patlabor221what's wrong will trillian
04:12.58[STC]_creeperzWhat is doug doing?
04:13.03[STC]_creeperzI just never liked it
04:13.37[STC]_creeperzNoodleman*
04:13.42Noodlemanyes?
04:13.45[STC]_creeperzNo
04:13.58[STC]_creeperzI just spelled your name "Noobleman"
04:14.05Noodlemannoobleman
04:14.10Noodlemanthat's neat
04:14.17[STC]_creeperzYup
04:14.28[STC]_creeperzN00Bleman
04:14.58[STC]_creeperzTuck: When your next day off?
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04:15.20[STC]_creeperzOOpz
04:15.21NooblemanSunday, i guess
04:15.28[STC]_creeperzAhh
04:17.17IdiotInATankWaste is life, life is equaly to waste. IF this is true, what are we?
04:18.04[STC]_creeperzHmmm
04:18.36[STC]_creeperzI'm getting back to my retuine...Doing nothing but being someone that I am not
04:21.03Patlabor221hmm I think I broke the CVS project
04:21.28Patlabor221hmm or not
04:37.05Patlabor221noodle I think the entire repository is jacked
04:37.12Patlabor221how do I kill it? and make it anew?
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05:30.00NoodlemanPatlabor221: i fixed the repository
05:30.11Noodlemani just reimported the source
05:37.02Patlabor221cool I'll check out and add the scrtipt
05:39.06Patlabor221I must say that the wincvs server blows
05:39.10Patlabor221sorry client
05:39.14Patlabor221winCVS
05:39.21Noodlemanhehe
05:39.59Patlabor221but the TortoiseCVS, that thing rocks
05:41.59Noodlemani need some help...
05:42.04Patlabor221?
05:42.04Noodlemananyone game?
05:42.12Patlabor221depends what it's with
05:42.27Noodlemani need a good, funny, practical joke to play on my coworkers tomorrow
05:43.04Patlabor221install vnc on there machine
05:43.07Patlabor221then log in
05:43.13Patlabor221and type stuff to them
05:43.23Patlabor221like how you are a ghost
05:43.24Noodlemani was thinking i could dump out jim's dew and replace it with carbonated water, but i don't want to waste all that soda
05:43.42Noodlemanand they'd know it was vnc
05:43.56Patlabor221hmmmmm
05:47.27Patlabor221ok the script is in CVS
05:47.35Noodlemanok
05:48.02Patlabor221how does one check out on a command line?
05:48.39Noodlemancvs co screamers
05:49.01Patlabor221after loging in ?
05:49.23Noodlemanyes
05:49.37Noodlemanuse the same commands as on sourceforge
05:49.40Patlabor221and how does one log in on a command line ( /me uses clicky things )
05:49.41Patlabor221ahhh
05:49.48Noodlemanexcept adapt them for your machine
05:51.28Patlabor221hmmmm you could make them think they all got fired
05:51.55Patlabor221or you got fired
05:52.05Noodlemanhehe
05:52.21Patlabor221or someone is doin somone elses wife
05:52.26Noodlemanhow would i do that in a tiny little company?
05:52.34Patlabor221dono
05:52.55Patlabor221plastic wrap on the toilets allways works
05:53.24Noodlemanthe problem is that i might have to use it :-)
05:54.50Patlabor221hold it
05:55.13Patlabor221rig up some porn on someones machine
05:57.19Patlabor221hmmm well the if parts of the script need help
05:57.29Patlabor221but it's doing the making in the right order
05:57.39Patlabor221does there need to be a space between [ and -e ?
05:57.49Noodlemannot that i know of
06:19.16Patlabor221hmmm looks like I have to update fmod again.
06:24.57Patlabor221but at least they are crankin on linux suport
06:41.36Noodlemanyou're install script doesn't work right, can i fix it? :-)
06:44.18Patlabor221sure
06:44.23Patlabor221well the app segs too
06:45.14Patlabor221I updated to FMOD 3.6.2 as well
06:45.20Patlabor221the .so and stuff is in CVS
06:45.30Patlabor221in the fmod folder for sound
06:46.35Patlabor221hmmmmmm
06:46.42Patlabor221segs in winders too
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06:46.52Patlabor221well access violation
06:47.58Patlabor221hmm I see
06:50.38Patlabor221dosn't like the CVS folders
06:50.54Patlabor221this can be fixed
06:51.50Patlabor221didn't handle stuff with no extension
06:53.34Patlabor221wow seems data got trashed
06:55.11Noodlemanouch
06:55.38Patlabor221does the mp3 in data/ui music
06:55.40Patlabor221play for you?
06:56.16Noodlemanlet's see
06:56.44Noodlemandownloading mpg321
06:56.55Patlabor221I do need to change them to ogg
06:57.04Patlabor221the engine does support it
06:57.34Noodlemanyup
06:57.40Patlabor221it plays?
06:57.51Noodlemanthru an mp3 player it does
06:57.54Patlabor221then maybe I just had a bad update
06:58.16Patlabor221fixing code issues now
06:58.34Noodlemani figured out what i'm going to do for a practical joke tomorrow
06:59.04Patlabor221?
07:00.01Noodlemani'm going to switch around the 'g' and 'h' keys on sean's and jim's keyboards and have my sister call up the secretary, and make like the phone company is going to test the wires by pumping hot steam through them, and to not use the phones for 10 minutes
07:00.13Noodleman:-)
07:00.25Patlabor221LOL
07:02.53Noodlemanif something doesn't like the CVS folders, you can do a cvs export instead of checkout
07:03.15Patlabor221I made it just reject files that had no extension
07:03.21Patlabor221it was a good think to do anyway
07:03.26Noodlemanok
07:05.05Patlabor221hmm rather odd
07:05.08Patlabor221fmod 3.6.2 won't go
07:06.02Patlabor221well I shall have to look at it tomrow
07:06.05Patlabor221as it is late
07:06.13Patlabor221thanks again for seting this up
07:06.18Patlabor221have a good night
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15:02.38[TeA|TrEE]_Good Morning :D
15:04.35[dmp]man, i'm a newbie.. just did the "used assignment = instead of comparing =="-fault.. its been too long :-\
15:04.44[dmp]god morning, sleepyhead :)
15:06.08[dmp]~ducatictf
15:16.45[TeA|TrEE]_[dmp]: you there?
15:17.14[dmp]Nope. This is [dmp] fancy ladder-enabled auto-away with mp3-post-what-i-listen-to-annoyer.
15:17.41[TeA|TrEE]_:D
15:18.06[TeA|TrEE]_lost you in icq
15:18.10[dmp]what's up?
15:37.18[TeA|TrEE]_need hardware expert
15:46.19strayer[TeA|TrEE]_ here R only experts.... :)
15:47.14[TeA|TrEE]_:D
15:47.22[TeA|TrEE]_i know but none are there
15:47.46strayeris me 'none'?
15:47.51[TeA|TrEE]_all to busy having this numbers in front of the screen getting braindead of programming
15:47.58[TeA|TrEE]_;)
15:48.22strayerhm...right ...programmers are the hell...
15:48.35[TeA|TrEE]_they are from a other world
15:48.36[TeA|TrEE]_;)
15:48.42strayeryupp
15:49.16strayerwhat do U wanna know....maybe I as a 'nobody' can help U
15:49.46[dmp]hi nobody
15:50.13strayerlalala... :|
15:50.17[TeA|TrEE]_hmm
15:50.23[TeA|TrEE]_wartest du auf mich?
15:50.26strayerja
15:50.30[TeA|TrEE]_*grins*
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15:57.53rooterhello
15:58.00strayerhey rooter
15:59.47[TeA|TrEE]_rooter !!!!
16:00.05rooterhey TeA
16:00.45rooterwhat are you up to?
16:00.53rooteri just finished a calculus exam
16:01.19rooteri see
16:01.42strayerhe had to reboot
16:01.53rooterah... windows users :)
16:02.16strayer:)
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16:03.05rooterDoes anybody here play bz on OS X?
16:03.37rooteroh well
16:04.14rooterI'm thinking about getting the new 17" Powerbook
16:04.50strayerU R a lucky one...
16:05.01rooteryes... my boss loves me.  
16:05.14rooterbut, i would like to know how well bz plays on it
16:05.56strayerhm...dunno...i only heared that there is a version for MAC OS x
16:07.26rooterthere is... but g0 for OS X is on release 7
16:07.35rooterthat makes it sound a little buggy
16:08.31strayerhm...i have no idea who can give U any infos about it.....maybe cap or chestal
16:09.27rootermaybe...  It's either that or get a win laptop and install linux...  but i would rather get OS X
16:10.22strayeri would take an ibook 2....cause i never had one.... :)
16:10.30rooter:)  me either
16:10.38rooterthey sucked until OS X
16:11.26strayerbut isn't it much more difficult to get free software for MAC than for ix86?
16:11.39rooterwell.. that's it's biggest drawback... but...
16:11.53rootermost gnu software runs on it
16:12.07rooterplus Photoshop, MS Office,
16:12.24rootermost anything that runs on Unix.... XWindows
16:12.27rootergcc
16:12.37strayeraha......yeah picture editing on MAC is cool...saw my friend with it
16:13.02rooterit has an integrated wireless 802.11g
16:13.17rooteri just ordered a 802.11g router :)
16:13.45strayerlucky and wealthy.... :)
16:13.45rooteri want to play bzflag in my hammock without any wires
16:13.56rooterwell... it wasn't that expensive
16:14.20strayerok...these components became much cheaper last months
16:14.32rooterabout $129.99
16:14.44rooteri already have an 802.11b router
16:15.14strayerwhy do U need 2?
16:15.26strayeroh...sry my fault.......
16:15.39rooteri don't... i just want the 802.11g... I will probably sell the other
16:15.47strayerk
16:15.59rooteri'm pretty stoked about it.... but bzflag is a requirement!
16:16.51strayerhehe....U can run linux on Ur ibook and bzflag runs on linux
16:17.21strayer...this as last opinion if bzflag 4 MAC OS x would suck
16:17.23rootertrue... I also could use virtual win or linux...
16:17.42rooterhopefully the speed will be ok
16:18.12rooterif you hear of anybody using OS X... let me know :)
16:18.23strayerhm...i think so....that is, what MAC is proud of....the fast architecture
16:18.29strayerok...will do so
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17:16.29Celllo
17:16.57Cellemacs can i start the meta-x doctor from shell emacs?
17:18.41CellFAQ in knowledge based systems: How can You represent knowledge?
17:18.48Cellanyone knows?
17:19.44Cellanyone knows hoe PROLOG works (overview) plz?
17:32.13Cellgurgle
17:44.55Jormungandrtortoise even ;)
17:45.03Patlabor221yup
17:45.21Patlabor221well other then the fact that it keeps mangaling the data files :(
17:45.28Jormungandrow
17:45.39larslThe binary files?
17:45.50Patlabor221yeah
17:45.57Patlabor221the MP3s
17:46.08Patlabor221and the TGAs
17:46.14larslDo you use -kb?
17:46.28Patlabor221don't have that option in thre
17:46.34larslAh.
17:46.34Patlabor221not command line :)
17:46.59Patlabor221can someone try anon cvs on asgard.bakdigital.com module screamers?
17:47.51Patlabor221and then see if they can play the mp3 thats in data/'Ui music
17:48.28larslWhat't the path to the repository?
17:48.39Patlabor221it's /cvsroot
17:49.02larslGetting it now.
17:50.07Patlabor221I think I'm going to make a BZ maps project too
17:50.15larslBZ maps?
17:50.33Patlabor221yes a CVS server that holds maps
17:50.37Patlabor221so there can be history
17:50.51larslThat sounds nice.
17:51.42larslDo people remove old files in the SF tracker?
17:51.47larslThe world tracker.
17:51.55Patlabor221sometimes
17:51.58Patlabor221sometimes not
17:54.11larslintro.mp3 plays in XMMS.
17:56.46Patlabor221then it's just my client
17:56.47Patlabor221thanks
18:10.09Patlabor221hmmm I wonder if the server thinks they are text files
18:17.50CellUnknown host asgard.bakdigital.com.
18:18.11Cellah
18:18.14Cellerr
18:18.15Patlabor221yeah there is no bakdigital
18:20.23Cellwhats the user name?
18:20.39Patlabor221it has anon checkout
18:21.03Cellhm
18:21.08Patlabor221just like bz
18:22.06Cellah k got it
18:22.20Patlabor221anyone know how CVS knows if a file is text or binary?
18:22.29Patlabor221it's thinking the mp3s are text
18:22.45larslPatlabor221: You tell it when you add the file.
18:22.45Cellhm, config
18:23.06Patlabor221any way to chang it after it's added?
18:23.15larslYes, there's some admin command.
18:23.28Patlabor221got any idea what it is :)
18:24.39larslcvs admin -kb <file>
18:24.49larslTo change it in the repository.
18:24.53Patlabor221kewl
18:25.03larslAnd then update to change it in the working directory.
18:25.38CellPatlabor221: is everyone allowed to update your repository?
18:25.44Patlabor221no
18:26.01Patlabor221you must have a developer account to commit
18:26.12Cellah
18:29.52Cellbuilding...
18:30.05Patlabor221your data is going to be screwed man
18:30.44Cellhave some errors
18:31.17Patlabor221yeah and the libs will be screwed
18:31.34Patlabor221it thinks everything is text
18:32.42Cellhm
18:33.01Cellmp3 is test thats for sure
18:33.03Patlabor221there one file fixed, and assload to go
18:33.06Celltext
18:34.04Patlabor221must figure out the best way to do this
18:38.35Cellf:\cvs\screamers\LGE\LGE.cpp(11): fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'SDL/SDL.h': No such file or directory
18:38.43Patlabor221you don't have SDL
18:38.45Patlabor221get it
18:38.47Cellah
18:39.28Celland LGE.h?
18:39.46Patlabor221thats  in LGE
18:39.47Patlabor221youhave that
18:39.58Cellf:\cvs\screamers\Screamers\MOBList.h(6): fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'LGE.h': No such file or directory
18:40.25Cellhm
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18:40.30Patlabor221that would make sense if LGE didn't build
18:40.37Patlabor221since it didn't have SDL
18:40.38bzgirlhello
18:40.42Patlabor221it didn't copy it's headers
18:40.42Cellah
18:40.43Patlabor221hello
18:40.45Patlabor221how are you?
18:40.53bzgirlgood thanks :)
18:41.14Cellwhere do i get sdl?
18:41.48Patlabor221www.libsdl.org
18:42.12Cellah, thanks
18:43.16Patlabor221but your data is screwed till I fix this
18:45.15Cellgurgle i only downloaded the binary last time
18:46.57Cellvc7 forces to convert the project files to its format
18:52.00Patlabor221and there is data missing
18:52.04Cellgod i have to set the path to the sdl include and lib dir manually
18:52.23Patlabor221I just copy them to the right dir
18:52.27Patlabor221and then it's good
18:52.41Cellwhat dir?
18:52.53Patlabor221your base inc and lib dirs for VC
18:53.03Cellah
18:56.42Cellstrange: #include <SDL/SDL.h>, do you copy SDL.h to the baseincludedirforVC/SDL ?
18:56.57Patlabor221ues
18:57.02Cellah
18:57.04Patlabor221works just like GL
18:57.44Cellah
19:01.21Cellhow do i know what is the baseincludedirforVC i did not find that in the options?
19:02.12Patlabor221look for it
19:02.19Patlabor221and look for gl.h
19:03.35Cellhm, is that not configurable?
19:04.55Patlabor221you could add it to the app prefs
19:04.57Patlabor221if you wanted
19:06.07CellC:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET\Vc7\PlatformSDK\Include\gl
19:06.23Cellhm that should be it
19:06.34Patlabor221most likeky
19:11.23CellgluBuild2DMipmaps(GL_TEXTURE_2D,3,iImageW,iImageH,GL_BGR,GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE,pImageData);
19:11.24Cellf:\cvs\screamers\TextureManager\FileLoaders.cpp(236): error C2065: 'GL_BGR' : undeclared identifier
19:11.55Cellgurgle
19:12.09CellGL_BGR
19:12.10dougheckahaha
19:12.14doughecka4 dupes on slashdot
19:12.16dougheckasame day
19:12.18dougheckasame page
19:12.24Cellhe?
19:12.27Patlabor221you need GL 1.2
19:12.36Patlabor221you have 1..1
19:12.37Cellah
19:12.52Patlabor221I need to put in a #define if the user dosn't have 1.2
19:13.38dougheckahttp://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/looflirpa/igrill.shtml
19:13.46dougheckaUsing the USB current to directly charge high voltage capacitors, the iGrill does not require any additional power supply, making it perfect for dorm or office cooking.  
19:13.58dougheckaumm, hows that work?
19:13.59doughecka:)
19:14.27Patlabor221USB has 5 v
19:14.46doughecka500 mW
19:14.49dougheckanot much
19:14.57Patlabor221thats why they keep it in caps
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19:15.05Patlabor221store up a charge
19:16.10captain_protondoughecka: depends on the device
19:16.30captain_protondoughecka: devices can request as many power units as they want, and if the computer/hub can give it to them, it will
19:17.06dougheckahm
19:17.20doughecka650 cranking amps?
19:17.21dougheckawoo
19:17.51captain_protondoughecka: the usb master does power arbitration among ports
19:19.16dougheckacool
19:19.38Patlabor221cap tell scanline that his card is being shiped today, I will have a tracking number later today
19:20.07Patlabor221damn CVS keeps thinkin that TGA files are text
19:20.27captain_protonsure
19:23.27Patlabor221now this shold fix all the binary files
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20:06.52*** join/#bzflag dougheckaa (~root@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net)
20:07.07dougheckaaoh wow
20:07.10dougheckaathats so cool
20:07.12dougheckaa:)
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20:07.31dougheckaahaha
20:14.22dougheckaahow do I delete in linux?
20:15.48Cellwow i can use lot of screamers code for my purposes :)
20:22.12Cellwow lots of model format loaders
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20:22.13dougheckagreetings
20:22.18Cellhi
20:22.25dougheckawii
20:22.27dougheckawoo
20:22.29dougheckait still boots
20:25.13Cell~100000/8
20:25.1312500
20:25.36Cell~12500/1024
20:25.3712.20703125
20:35.25Patlabor221urp
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20:35.29dougheckaahaha
20:35.31dougheckaait works!
20:35.38Patlabor221what works?
20:35.51dougheckaaXP and linux dual boot
20:35.57dougheckaawithout reinstalling XP
20:36.08Cellwhat linux?
20:36.11dougheckaaknoppix
20:36.56Patlabor221why would you have to reinstall XP
20:37.04Patlabor221XP then lin
20:37.13dougheckaaI dint have a linux partition
20:37.15Patlabor221the lin booat loader supports windows
20:37.28dougheckaayea
20:37.51Cell~bye
20:37.52bye bye
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20:37.58dougheckaahmm, its all aquafied
20:38.07dougheckaavery clever
20:40.54larslAquafied?
20:40.59Patlabor221KDE?
20:41.06dougheckaayup
20:41.24dougheckaaeven the menu thingy down at the bottom is like the OS X dock
20:41.30dougheckaathe icons spring up
20:41.31Patlabor221neat
20:41.48dougheckaano genie effect though
20:42.35dougheckaaaftet it apt-get dist-updates I can test cvs
20:48.49lurgymanhmm...
20:48.51lurgymanhttp://googly.com/
20:48.53lurgymaner
20:49.47dougheckaawoo, sound works
20:52.00Patlabor221there now it will build with GL 1.1
21:00.19dougheckaabzflag g0 is in debians apt-get
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21:06.14Patlabor221well that was fun
21:06.20dougheckaalol
21:08.08Patlabor221hmmm fmod 3.6.2 won't go on lin, that's odd
21:13.26Noodleman_workit's april 1st
21:13.31Noodleman_workmy big day >:-)
21:13.46Patlabor221how is it going so far
21:13.51Patlabor221ohh and I'm pissed at you :)
21:13.57Noodleman_workhaven't done anything so far
21:14.03Noodleman_workwhy are you?
21:14.21dougheckaaNoodleman_work fried his new network card!
21:14.29Noodleman_workhaha
21:14.31Patlabor221when you added the code to CVS it made all the files text
21:14.38Noodleman_workhaven't even got it yet
21:14.42dougheckaaoh
21:14.44Noodleman_work???
21:14.46Patlabor221not that you would have known not to do that tho, so I can't blame you
21:14.58Patlabor221it made a number of binary files text
21:15.10Patlabor221so when I get them on win, it tries to "fix" them
21:15.16Patlabor221the MP3's
21:15.21Patlabor221and the TGA files moslty
21:15.27Patlabor221I've got it fixed tho :)
21:15.37Noodleman_worksorry :-)
21:15.55Patlabor221I'm sure nether of us thought it was an issue
21:16.07Patlabor221would have probably done the same  thing myslef
21:16.07Noodleman_workdougheckaa likes knoppix, i can tell
21:16.32dougheckaahehe
21:16.33dougheckaa:)
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21:18.39larsl~xmission
21:18.47larsl'cheater' is cheating.
21:18.54bzgirlagain
21:19.00dougheckaaoh really?
21:19.07larslHe seems to be able to fly.
21:19.12dougheckaawonder why he picked that name
21:19.50Noodleman_work'Tukker'
21:19.52Noodleman_workhmm
21:19.56Noodleman_workinteresting :-)
21:20.01dougheckaaheh
21:20.32Noodleman_workdid you copy it to the hard drive?
21:20.44dougheckaayup
21:20.48dougheckaaand got windows to see it
21:20.52Noodleman_workis it nice?
21:20.59dougheckaayea
21:21.01dougheckaavery
21:21.04dougheckaaaquafied
21:21.10Noodleman_worki'm gonna have to test it out
21:21.13dougheckaahehe
21:21.20Noodleman_worki've got a spare machine
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21:21.27dougheckaaah
21:21.28dougheckaayou should
21:21.30Noodleman_worki've been testing debian unstable on it
21:21.34dougheckaaits debian
21:21.38Noodleman_workyeah
21:21.39Noodleman_worki know
21:21.40dougheckaaknoppix IS debian unstable
21:21.43dougheckaa:)
21:23.00Noodleman_worki've still got a few distros on my list to test
21:23.07dougheckaahm
21:23.10dougheckaaredhat 9...
21:23.12dougheckaamandrake 9
21:23.20Noodleman_worki've tested gentoo and debian unstable
21:23.23dougheckaacool
21:23.27Noodleman_workgunna try out those two
21:23.28dougheckaahows gentoo?
21:23.30larslCan someone please kick and ban 'cheater' from xmission?
21:23.43Noodleman_workit's great except for the fact that you have to compile everything
21:23.49dougheckaayea.
21:24.15Noodleman_workit's better than debian except for that
21:24.15dougheckaawhats neat is everytime knoppix boots, it autodetects all the devices
21:24.32Noodleman_workthat's one thing i like about redhat
21:24.36dougheckaayea
21:24.48dougheckaaexept in knoppix it WORKS!
21:24.54dougheckaaexept my poor usb mouse
21:24.54Noodleman_workhehe
21:24.55dougheckaa:(
21:25.14Noodleman_workare you subscribed to redhat network?
21:25.19Patlabor221yes
21:25.25Noodleman_workah
21:25.36Patlabor221was geting a MASIVE 3..2 K a sec yesterday
21:25.41dougheckaahmm
21:25.43Noodleman_work:-P
21:25.46Patlabor221feel the burn
21:25.50dougheckaause bittorrent, after a while I was getting 140+
21:26.02Patlabor221they have 9?
21:26.05dougheckaayup
21:26.08dougheckaaread slashdot
21:26.09Patlabor221URL?
21:26.13Noodleman_workhow is 9?
21:26.14dougheckaasomewhere on there theres a link
21:26.18Patlabor221gime the skinny
21:26.20Noodleman_workhave you tested it?
21:26.27dougheckaaI installed knoppix :)
21:26.43Noodleman_worktake some screenies of knoppix
21:26.51dougheckaahm
21:26.56dougheckaaafter I get it running
21:26.58dougheckaaall updated
21:27.05Patlabor221can't find it, you have URL?
21:27.40bzgirlPatlabor221: RH9 isos..   http://www.aaltonen.us/archives/000023.html
21:28.00larslAre bullets supposed to pass through teleports in exactly the same way as tanks do?
21:28.09dougheckaa"According to Daily Daemon News and The FreeBSD Diary, NetBSD, FreeBSD and GNU/OpenBSD are to be merged.
21:28.11Noodleman_workas far as i know, yes
21:28.16Noodleman_workhaha
21:28.25Noodleman_workdon't believe anything on /. today
21:28.27dougheckaathere was 4 dupes on slashdot
21:28.27larslI think I've found a bug then.
21:28.35dougheckaatoday
21:28.38larslI liked the one about Enlightenment 1.0. =)
21:28.43Noodleman_work:-P
21:28.54Noodleman_workwhat about closed source gnomemeeting?
21:28.54dougheckaahttp://slashdot.org/articles/03/03/31/1256236.shtml?tid=0
21:28.58Patlabor221needs a login
21:28.58dougheckaahaha
21:30.47Patlabor221you have the login?
21:30.57dougheckaabittorrent is fasta
21:30.58dougheckaa:P
21:31.04dougheckaatakes awhile, but it will be
21:32.10Noodleman_worktelnet smtp3.coinet.com 25
21:32.16Noodleman_work:-)
21:33.26Patlabor221hmmm something is very wrong with FMOD
21:34.19dougheckaa<PROTECTED>
21:34.21dougheckaaerk
21:34.23dougheckaadarn linux
21:38.37Patlabor221anyone want to help with a linux compile issue?
21:38.55dougheckaanope
21:39.16Patlabor221why would you have to compile it?
21:39.27dougheckaaI dont want to pay
21:39.31dougheckaaso I get cvs
21:39.47dougheckaajust dont have copy protection and support for some installers
21:40.02dougheckaaor all installers
21:40.11Patlabor221they charge for winx?
21:40.18dougheckaayea
21:40.22dougheckaasubscription
21:40.45dougheckaaI guess they have to pay to put those copy protection and installers support in there or something
21:44.08dougheckaairs 4:44
21:45.09larslPatlabor221: What's the issue?
21:46.41Patlabor221I get a bunch of unkown token stuff
21:46.48Patlabor221in my fmod header
21:46.58larsl'unknown token'?
21:46.59Patlabor221I updated to a never version
21:47.04larslI've never seen that.
21:47.21Patlabor221parse error before '*' token
21:47.27larslWhat was the CVS again?
21:47.36Patlabor221asgard.bakadigital.com
21:47.40Patlabor221module screamers
21:48.07Patlabor221then do a make inside the SoundManager folder
21:48.56Patlabor221guess I could go back to fmod 3.61 but I'd rather not, there are a lot of nice linux fixes in 3.62
21:49.04larslDo I need any libraries?
21:49.22Patlabor221the .so is in cvs
21:49.24larslOK.
21:49.35Patlabor221screamers\SoundManager\fmod\libfmod-3.62.so
21:49.43Patlabor221well with / not \ :)
21:49.56larslIs that a C or C++ library?
21:51.50Patlabor221don't know :)
21:52.08Patlabor221looks all C
21:52.23Patlabor221but it may use C++ inside
21:52.27Patlabor221don't have source for it
21:53.34Patlabor221the older version worked
21:53.43Patlabor221and that is odd
21:54.13larslWhat does _cdecl mean?
21:55.20Patlabor221DLL exports for windows
21:55.26larslOh.
21:55.39larslGCC might not like that.
21:56.52[dmp]~ducatictf
21:57.06larslI defined _cdecl to an empty string, and now it builds.
21:57.13dougheckaaaaah, trying to keep track of 4 irc windows is hard
21:57.14Patlabor221it was in the 3.61 and it worked fine
21:57.22Patlabor221hmmm
21:57.33larslI'm using GCC 3.2, by the way.
21:58.33larslFunny thing... before it uses _cdecl, it defines __cdecl (with two underscores) as the empty string if it's a GNU system.
21:58.39larslMaybe they did a typo.
21:58.59Patlabor221I think gnu on windows
21:59.02Patlabor221not just any gnu
21:59.49Patlabor221so what did you define it as?
21:59.50larslThe condition basically says 'if not non-GNU WIN32'
22:00.08larslIf I change the single time _cdecl appears to __cdecl, everything works.
22:00.21Patlabor221soo maybe I don't have GNUC defined
22:00.51larslI don't think that's it.
22:01.02Patlabor221what shoudl the line be then?
22:01.10Patlabor221ohh 2 __
22:01.11Patlabor221got it
22:01.19larslI think the FMOD people made a mistake.
22:01.40Patlabor221they musta
22:01.46larslWhere it defined F_CALLBACKAPI
22:01.58Patlabor221yeah see it now
22:02.19Patlabor221ahh there it goes :)
22:02.23Patlabor221thank you soo much
22:02.31larslI can't build the whole thing though, it complains about not finding fmod in /usr/lib.
22:02.35larslYou're welcome. =)
22:03.27larslIf you want to be portable you might want to change those library checks, the libraries doesn't have to be in /usr/lib.
22:03.43Patlabor221ohh they don't
22:04.00Patlabor221I just did what cap told me to do :)
22:04.11larsl/usr/lib is usually what the distribution provides.
22:04.30larslOther software could go in /usr/local/lib, /opt/lib, /usr/X11R6/lib...
22:04.34Patlabor221can I make the link grab it from like a folder
22:04.41Patlabor221ohh ok
22:04.46Patlabor221what is best?
22:04.50larslThis is where autoconf comes in handy. =)
22:05.08Patlabor221yeah I just wanted somethign fast to help me make
22:05.15Patlabor221want to set it up to use auto conf :)
22:05.57Patlabor221I can make you an ssh account so you can check in :)
22:06.00larslHmm, I though I had GLU installed.
22:06.28larslNot right now... I could look at it later, maybe.
22:06.39Patlabor221hey wenever
22:06.49Patlabor221at least you got the nasty thing done
22:17.55larslYay, it's running!
22:35.42Patlabor221amazing
22:35.52Noodleman_workscreamers?
22:35.55Noodleman_workdoes it run?
22:36.06Patlabor221looks like it
22:36.12Noodleman_workkewl
22:36.44Patlabor221after larsl helped find the typo in fmod :)
22:37.53Noodleman_work:-P
22:41.36Patlabor221seems most systems ship with GL 1.1 headers too :(
22:41.41Patlabor221not 1.2 or 1.3
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