| 00:04.48 | *** join/#bzflag heinola (~heinola@63.98.3.69) |
| 00:05.27 | heinola | hello all |
| 00:05.48 | bzgirl | hi |
| 00:06.47 | heinola | learning how to us cvs |
| 00:07.07 | Noodleman_work | cvs is a pain in the butt, but it's nice when you learn it :-) |
| 00:08.03 | heinola | want to update from 1.7e6 to newest :) |
| 00:13.09 | Patlabor2211 | the sourceforge page shows how to get the current verison anon from cvs |
| 00:13.33 | Patlabor2211 | but you will have to build it |
| 00:14.20 | Patlabor2211 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.20 | Patlabor2211 | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag login |
| 00:14.20 | Patlabor2211 | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag -r v1_7 co bzflag |
| 00:15.09 | heinola | :) |
| 00:15.33 | Patlabor2211 | that will get the 1.7 line's latest |
| 00:21.34 | Noodleman_work | who else likes pigeons??! |
| 00:21.56 | Noodleman_work | pigeons are da bomb |
| 00:21.57 | Noodleman_work | :-) |
| 00:23.04 | heinola | unknown command v1_7 :) |
| 00:23.37 | captain_proton | heinola: remember the -r? |
| 00:23.43 | heinola | yep |
| 00:23.59 | Patlabor2211 | that should work |
| 00:24.08 | Noodleman_work | pigeon power! |
| 00:24.15 | heinola | ill try again maby i miss typed :) |
| 00:26.14 | heinola | no go same error |
| 00:26.16 | heinola | brb |
| 00:27.03 | Patlabor2211 | I dono, I don't do command line check outs |
| 00:27.09 | Patlabor2211 | I use a tool |
| 00:27.26 | Patlabor2211 | but that is the command line from SF |
| 00:28.06 | larsl | It's 'co -r v1_7'. |
| 00:28.33 | larsl | -r is an option for the checkout command. |
| 00:28.43 | [dmp] | what is the difference bewteen v1_7 and v1_7_branch (i think it's called) ? |
| 00:29.28 | larsl | -r as a global option is 'read-only'. =) |
| 00:29.44 | Patlabor2211 | it's revision I thought |
| 00:29.56 | Patlabor2211 | does it go after the co? |
| 00:30.17 | larsl | Yes, as an option for co it's the revision tag. |
| 00:30.23 | Patlabor2211 | ahhhh |
| 00:30.38 | Patlabor2211 | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co bzflag -r v1_7 |
| 00:30.42 | Patlabor2211 | is how it should be |
| 00:30.47 | captain_proton | co -r v1_7 bzflag :P |
| 00:31.06 | Patlabor2211 | ahhh |
| 00:31.22 | heinola | co -r v1_7 bzflag working :0 |
| 00:31.23 | Patlabor2211 | 1_7_branch looks like it's the first of the .17s |
| 00:31.34 | heinola | ty all |
| 00:31.41 | Patlabor2211 | this is why I use Tourtice :) |
| 00:32.04 | larsl | Strangely enough it's listed under 'non-branch tags' on SF. |
| 00:32.14 | heinola | brb |
| 00:32.23 | larsl | And v1_7 is listed under 'branch tags'. |
| 00:32.26 | Patlabor2211 | yeah I think it's just the tag for the first 1.7 |
| 00:32.34 | Patlabor2211 | before it had a name |
| 00:32.48 | larsl | Ah, first development version of 1.7? |
| 00:32.51 | Patlabor2211 | it's like the version specific tags |
| 00:32.55 | Patlabor2211 | yes |
| 00:33.02 | Patlabor2211 | when they broke it off of 1.6 |
| 00:33.42 | larsl | So, does anyone know if next minor version will be 1.9 or 2.0? |
| 00:33.53 | Patlabor2211 | don't think Tim has decided |
| 00:34.03 | Patlabor2211 | 9.1 :) |
| 00:34.06 | larsl | =) |
| 00:34.13 | larsl | BZFlag X. |
| 00:34.19 | Patlabor2211 | that was done |
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| 01:17.23 | Patlabor221 | noodle your spam thing seems to be funky |
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| 01:17.35 | doughecka | greetings |
| 01:17.56 | Patlabor221 | what up D |
| 01:19.21 | Patlabor221 | fishbag |
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| 01:56.35 | Noodleman | lo |
| 01:58.06 | Patlabor221 | your spam thing is wierd |
| 01:58.24 | Patlabor221 | tried to confirm and it said it coudln't find it |
| 01:58.26 | Noodleman | what's weird about it other than the fact that i wrote it? |
| 01:58.31 | Noodleman | :-P |
| 01:58.43 | Noodleman | i've seen that before |
| 01:58.43 | Patlabor221 | said that the message may have timed out |
| 01:58.55 | Patlabor221 | but I had just got the confirm thingy |
| 01:58.56 | Noodleman | i'm gunna have to root that bug out |
| 01:59.12 | Patlabor221 | I fear I may have been blacklisted |
| 01:59.18 | Patlabor221 | did you get my mail? |
| 01:59.24 | Noodleman | no, it doesn't have a blacklist |
| 01:59.43 | Noodleman | yes, i did get your mail, it's in the Pending folder |
| 01:59.43 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 01:59.49 | Patlabor221 | it has your tracking number |
| 01:59.54 | Noodleman | but noodleroni.com isn't online right now |
| 02:00.00 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 02:00.00 | Noodleman | i've got it here at home |
| 02:00.52 | Patlabor221 | UPS should have it there monday I hope |
| 02:00.59 | Noodleman | yeah, thx again d00d |
| 02:01.02 | Patlabor221 | CA to OR should not take that long |
| 02:01.04 | Patlabor221 | ohh sure |
| 02:01.12 | Patlabor221 | can't have stats down for long |
| 02:01.32 | Noodleman | i was gonna ask my buddy sean if his homies would do that for him :-) |
| 02:01.35 | Patlabor221 | see it's actualy a self benifical thing for me |
| 02:01.39 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:02.03 | Patlabor221 | if it's not up soon creeper will be asking me avery 15 min when its' going to be back |
| 02:02.15 | Noodleman | hahaha |
| 02:02.28 | Patlabor221 | so this saves me greef in the long run |
| 02:02.28 | Noodleman | that *would* be a problem ;-) |
| 02:02.49 | Patlabor221 | that boy needs to perhaps calm down just a tad |
| 02:03.00 | Noodleman | yup |
| 02:03.36 | Noodleman | huzzah! i've got 3 computers hooked up to my kvm switch |
| 02:03.43 | Patlabor221 | keen |
| 02:03.47 | Noodleman | i knew i needed more than just a 2 port :-) |
| 02:04.09 | Patlabor221 | well 7 to the same monitor |
| 02:04.20 | Noodleman | what do you do with all of them |
| 02:04.20 | Patlabor221 | since it's a dual input monttor |
| 02:04.33 | Patlabor221 | ragnarok.bakadigital.com |
| 02:04.38 | Patlabor221 | asgard.bakakdigital.com |
| 02:04.51 | Patlabor221 | nuku-nuku.bakadigital.com |
| 02:05.01 | Patlabor221 | darkmoor ( the music server ). |
| 02:05.10 | Patlabor221 | the Mac (tm) |
| 02:05.17 | Patlabor221 | the windows ME test machine |
| 02:05.19 | Patlabor221 | the laptop |
| 02:05.26 | Patlabor221 | and my main windows machine |
| 02:05.29 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:05.41 | Noodleman | you are somethin' else |
| 02:05.55 | Patlabor221 | at least they are not at home |
| 02:06.03 | Noodleman | most of my computers are linux, so i can just use ssh |
| 02:06.21 | Noodleman | procyon (this computer) |
| 02:06.25 | Patlabor221 | there is also a 16 port hub, a 5 port hub, and a 4 port gigafast router down there somewhere |
| 02:06.30 | Noodleman | deneb (noodleroni and s.b.o) |
| 02:06.36 | Noodleman | gemma (mom) |
| 02:06.38 | Patlabor221 | ohh I ssh to most of them too |
| 02:06.44 | Noodleman | diadem (sister) |
| 02:07.01 | Noodleman | fomalhaut (router and general workhorse) |
| 02:07.16 | Patlabor221 | the main PC is not on the KVM, just on the second input, I use the KVM just when I have to do local stuff |
| 02:07.16 | Noodleman | and arcturus (my big beefy workstation) |
| 02:07.26 | Patlabor221 | beef is good |
| 02:07.29 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 02:07.45 | Patlabor221 | hel I don't even think the mac is pluged in |
| 02:07.59 | Noodleman | what?! you've got a mac, and you aren't using it? |
| 02:08.06 | Noodleman | :-P |
| 02:08.09 | Patlabor221 | and nuku-nuku is offline too, got no drive |
| 02:08.14 | Patlabor221 | it's just a G4 400 |
| 02:08.16 | Patlabor221 | slow |
| 02:08.21 | Noodleman | ah |
| 02:08.51 | Patlabor221 | use it for the ocasional resource editing on OS 9 |
| 02:09.17 | Noodleman | hey, i gotta go, it'll be the sabbath soon |
| 02:09.19 | Noodleman | l8r |
| 02:09.20 | Patlabor221 | ohh and a UPS and a sub wooffer down there |
| 02:09.24 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
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| 02:28.24 | fiberchunks | lo -- someone needs to fix that damned 'you were kicked cause your tank's too fast' thing -- I just got booted from xmission |
| 02:28.44 | Patlabor221 | still geting that |
| 02:28.45 | Patlabor221 | odd |
| 02:28.52 | Patlabor221 | chestal has been making it more lienent |
| 02:28.56 | fiberchunks | grab a HS flag, get smacked |
| 02:29.04 | Patlabor221 | wonder if Tim just hasn't updated yet |
| 02:29.25 | fiberchunks | hrm -- well anywho - what's happening in the clean world? |
| 02:29.43 | Patlabor221 | it's clean here? |
| 02:29.56 | fiberchunks | heh, cleaner than my house, anyway :) |
| 02:29.57 | Patlabor221 | http://asgard.bakadigital.com/Screamers/ |
| 02:29.58 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 02:30.06 | Patlabor221 | you never know |
| 02:30.40 | fiberchunks | looks like someone's been busy ;) |
| 02:30.45 | Patlabor221 | a tad |
| 02:31.17 | Patlabor221 | even runs on leenox |
| 02:31.22 | fiberchunks | what's new with screamers now? |
| 02:31.25 | Patlabor221 | with moozak |
| 02:31.42 | Patlabor221 | more world object types |
| 02:31.49 | Patlabor221 | some colisions ( with the walls ) |
| 02:32.01 | Patlabor221 | and event system for fireing off graphic effects |
| 02:32.12 | Patlabor221 | ground objects |
| 02:32.16 | Patlabor221 | animated objects |
| 02:32.19 | Patlabor221 | "the flag" |
| 02:32.32 | Patlabor221 | working on object colisions now |
| 02:32.46 | Patlabor221 | then gonna hook up some shots |
| 02:32.50 | Patlabor221 | then hook up net |
| 02:33.04 | Patlabor221 | net lib is done on windows |
| 02:33.09 | Patlabor221 | just needs to be hooked up |
| 02:33.16 | Patlabor221 | and linuxated |
| 02:34.01 | fiberchunks | SDL? |
| 02:34.06 | fiberchunks | sdl_net, i mean |
| 02:34.06 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:34.08 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 02:34.09 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 02:34.13 | Patlabor221 | my own netcode |
| 02:34.19 | fiberchunks | ah...why? |
| 02:34.24 | Patlabor221 | cus it was done |
| 02:34.32 | fiberchunks | ic |
| 02:34.37 | Patlabor221 | and it allready does a lot of the client server stuff |
| 02:34.47 | Patlabor221 | and it should be easy to port |
| 02:34.58 | Patlabor221 | just uses basic winsock |
| 02:35.03 | Patlabor221 | about the same as bz does |
| 02:35.10 | fiberchunks | does what you have now run on linux? |
| 02:35.18 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 02:35.28 | Patlabor221 | vus it's got no net |
| 02:35.30 | fiberchunks | hrm -- may have to check that out in a minute :) |
| 02:35.42 | Patlabor221 | you will have to get FMOD |
| 02:35.47 | fiberchunks | got it already |
| 02:35.58 | fiberchunks | the libs, anyway |
| 02:36.09 | Patlabor221 | what version? |
| 02:36.16 | fiberchunks | but I guess that's all of it -- dunno -- lemme see |
| 02:36.17 | Patlabor221 | it wants the latest 3.6.1 |
| 02:36.32 | Patlabor221 | and boy will it complain if it don't get it |
| 02:36.42 | fiberchunks | ah -- I've got fmod from jetstream |
| 02:36.48 | fiberchunks | so I'd have to regrab it |
| 02:36.51 | Patlabor221 | that is the older one |
| 02:36.56 | fiberchunks | yuppers |
| 02:37.02 | fiberchunks | how's the board treating you? |
| 02:37.05 | Patlabor221 | man he actualy ported that |
| 02:37.09 | Patlabor221 | ohh it's fine |
| 02:37.18 | Patlabor221 | havn't had any problems |
| 02:37.23 | Patlabor221 | noone has complained a thing |
| 02:37.33 | fiberchunks | good deal |
| 02:37.50 | Patlabor221 | people are sill asking silly questions, so I guess all is right in the world |
| 02:38.13 | fiberchunks | almost 1000 posts on the general board |
| 02:38.20 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:39.01 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/Screamers/files/screamers-src-3-26-03.zip |
| 02:39.03 | Patlabor221 | if you want it |
| 02:39.14 | Patlabor221 | it's not exactly the easyest to build tho |
| 02:39.29 | Patlabor221 | you have to go to the sub folders in an order and do a make in eachof them |
| 02:39.36 | Patlabor221 | I have ot make a master makefile |
| 02:39.38 | Patlabor221 | or script |
| 02:39.39 | Patlabor221 | :( |
| 02:39.57 | fiberchunks | ahhhh, then I will leave it alone for now :) |
| 02:40.11 | Patlabor221 | how do I make a shell script? |
| 02:40.18 | fiberchunks | use bash |
| 02:40.48 | fiberchunks | and just copy some of the millions out there, and modify it to suit your needs |
| 02:41.13 | fiberchunks | only one _real_ necessary part, and that is: the first line MUST start with #!/bin/bash |
| 02:41.26 | Patlabor221 | it's just going to be some make lines |
| 02:41.31 | fiberchunks | e.g. |
| 02:41.31 | Patlabor221 | in a certan order |
| 02:41.36 | fiberchunks | #!/bin/bash |
| 02:41.42 | fiberchunks | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.52 | fiberchunks | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.57 | fiberchunks | make baz |
| 02:42.01 | fiberchunks | etc, etc, etc |
| 02:42.04 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 02:42.21 | Patlabor221 | I shall work on geting that hooked up |
| 02:42.28 | Patlabor221 | so it will be easy to make |
| 02:42.32 | fiberchunks | then just make it execable, and run it: $./gooscript |
| 02:42.49 | Patlabor221 | how do you make it executable? |
| 02:42.55 | Patlabor221 | make it .sh? |
| 02:42.59 | fiberchunks | chmod u+x gooscript |
| 02:43.12 | Patlabor221 | and that saves it with the file? |
| 02:43.31 | fiberchunks | yeah, that sets the 'executable' permission bit for the user of the file |
| 02:43.35 | Patlabor221 | keen |
| 02:43.52 | fiberchunks | or, you could simply $sh ./gooscript (I think that'll work too) |
| 02:43.53 | Patlabor221 | so I can make ./buildDaMutha |
| 02:44.01 | fiberchunks | yeah |
| 02:44.09 | Patlabor221 | well or ./makeall |
| 02:44.17 | fiberchunks | don't use capitals, windoze boy ;) |
| 02:44.27 | fiberchunks | that's better lol |
| 02:45.00 | Patlabor221 | I was just makin a funny |
| 02:45.02 | fiberchunks | the ./ indicates that the file you want to run is in the current working directory |
| 02:45.07 | fiberchunks | just joshin |
| 02:45.27 | Patlabor221 | da |
| 02:45.33 | Patlabor221 | this I know |
| 02:45.40 | fiberchunks | just makin sure |
| 02:45.41 | Patlabor221 | I actualy used gdb the other day |
| 02:45.53 | Patlabor221 | way better then printf |
| 02:45.57 | fiberchunks | my spankin new digicam kicks serious ass, btw (just got it this week) |
| 02:45.59 | Patlabor221 | but not as cool as F7 |
| 02:45.59 | fiberchunks | LOL |
| 02:46.57 | Patlabor221 | I need to test out the fog too |
| 02:47.06 | Patlabor221 | black fog looks very cool |
| 02:47.13 | fiberchunks | and (and this will seem odd to you), it mounts just keen under linux (which is nice ) |
| 02:47.15 | Patlabor221 | like nitetime |
| 02:47.21 | fiberchunks | looking forward to seeing it |
| 02:47.37 | fiberchunks | are you incorporating anything from bz or jetstream in it? |
| 02:47.39 | Patlabor221 | it must show as a normal USB drive that's good |
| 02:47.43 | fiberchunks | scsi |
| 02:47.48 | Patlabor221 | for a cam? |
| 02:47.52 | fiberchunks | yeah |
| 02:47.52 | Patlabor221 | that's interesting |
| 02:48.15 | fiberchunks | apparently it does it that way under the MAC too (but not windows -- don't know the reasons why() |
| 02:48.28 | Patlabor221 | I made a set of wold objects that are based on the BZ box, pyramid, and teleporter |
| 02:48.37 | Patlabor221 | so that's about it |
| 02:48.57 | fiberchunks | well, I guess it may be because it considers it a USB mass storage device, which I guess is defined as scsi in linux ? (not sure really) |
| 02:48.59 | Patlabor221 | but is it a USB conector? |
| 02:49.00 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 02:49.02 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:49.03 | fiberchunks | yes |
| 02:49.11 | Patlabor221 | they made a scsi driver for it |
| 02:49.19 | Patlabor221 | since scsi had hot swap support |
| 02:49.51 | fiberchunks | ah, perhaps -- but the driver that loads is the usb-storage driver -- I guess it's kinda akin to the scsi emulation for CD burners |
| 02:50.01 | Patlabor221 | jetstream actualy used some stuff from me, but I didn't realy use anythign from them, jsut the linux code that cap made for me for the libs |
| 02:50.11 | Patlabor221 | yeah it must be similar |
| 02:50.42 | fiberchunks | got a low D whistle book to go with my D whistle too -- neat stuff |
| 02:51.09 | fiberchunks | and my woman actually surprised me -- completely pulled the wool over my eyes the minx |
| 02:52.03 | Patlabor221 | that's allways good :) |
| 02:54.15 | fiberchunks | been doing some research on my future house, which I've decided will either be: an earthship or a partially subterrean abode |
| 02:55.30 | Patlabor221 | ooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 02:56.17 | Patlabor221 | it would take a bit too |
| 02:56.53 | fiberchunks | some hallucinogens, some dry food, some classical and techno music, and I would be a happy, happy camper |
| 02:57.50 | fiberchunks | heh, yeah, but I could swing by jupiter and what not -- say hi to the gods for a bit, and then slingshot to a relative speed approaching 200k / s -- that would be nice |
| 02:58.35 | Patlabor221 | relitive to what? :) |
| 02:58.45 | fiberchunks | lol -- good point :) |
| 02:59.22 | fiberchunks | course, that assumes that my tachion drive is in proper operational condition -- as well as the photon cannons |
| 02:59.38 | fiberchunks | for any space nasties I may encounter along the way |
| 03:00.20 | Patlabor221 | a lazer? |
| 03:00.58 | fiberchunks | fish missiles ;) |
| 03:01.08 | Patlabor221 | zactly |
| 03:02.46 | fiberchunks | after the research I've done, I'm really perplexed as to why people still insist on stick built housing -- boggles the mind |
| 03:05.07 | Patlabor221 | tradition |
| 03:05.28 | fiberchunks | yeah, that, and perhaps the 'better than the joneses' thing |
| 03:05.55 | fiberchunks | that tall huh ;) |
| 03:06.06 | Patlabor221 | work updairs |
| 03:06.10 | Patlabor221 | live upstairs |
| 03:12.11 | Patlabor221 | well time to get home |
| 03:12.21 | fiberchunks | time for bed for me -- take it easy |
| 03:12.25 | Patlabor221 | you too |
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| 04:42.26 | doughecka | hey |
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| 04:44.59 | TimRiker | hey. |
| 04:45.26 | ElectricElf | TimRiker: Quick question to avoid looking at the source; is bzflag entirely client/server, or is there peer-to-peer traffic as well? |
| 04:45.37 | ElectricElf | Duh, nevermind, I'll just check tcpdump |
| 04:45.45 | doughecka | "How do you stop a French Tank? ...... Shoot the guy pushing it. " |
| 04:46.04 | TimRiker | ElectricElf: client server at present. |
| 04:46.33 | ElectricElf | Yep. |
| 04:46.43 | TimRiker | in the past it allowed Multicast peer to peer, but in reality multicast does exist enough to be used. |
| 04:47.01 | TimRiker | er does not exist. |
| 04:47.16 | prot-home | in many cases, it exists but doesn't work quite right |
| 04:47.32 | TimRiker | that too. |
| 04:47.47 | ElectricElf | Heh :) |
| 04:48.16 | TimRiker | when I break the net layer, I plan to add ipv6 support, but not multicast. |
| 04:48.38 | prot-home | multicast makes sense if ipv6 is enabled |
| 04:48.53 | TimRiker | not enough people will really have ipv6 addresses yet to make doing the multicast worth it. |
| 04:48.59 | prot-home | true |
| 04:49.09 | prot-home | but we should add support, just not turn it on yet :) |
| 04:49.12 | ElectricElf | Occasionally I run into a community that's big on IPv6, and it surprises me. |
| 04:49.29 | prot-home | we've been adding ipv6 to our networks in the CS dept |
| 04:49.50 | prot-home | but the main IT group is grumpy about giving us dynamic routing |
| 04:50.09 | TimRiker | the "convergence" devices may well be ipv6. now if there was one with opengl... ;-) |
| 04:50.21 | prot-home | i doubt any of them even have FPUs |
| 04:50.23 | ElectricElf | prot-home: Well, any widespread, serious adoption of IPv6 is a ways away yet. |
| 04:50.39 | ElectricElf | prot-home: It's still a toy for one reason: routing policy. |
| 04:50.52 | ElectricElf | prot-home: There is no multi-homing IPv6 currently. |
| 04:51.03 | ElectricElf | You have to have a /32 to do any routing. |
| 04:51.09 | TimRiker | prot-home: I'm looking into using the DSP on one of them to do the opengl work. not the original intention, but could be cool anyway. |
| 04:51.30 | prot-home | ElectricElf: thats because the main router corps haven't done it |
| 04:51.43 | ElectricElf | prot-home: Both ARIN and RIPE decide this kind of policy. |
| 04:51.58 | TimRiker | japan is doing ipv6 deployments now for high speed home connects. |
| 04:52.01 | ElectricElf | (Well, there are obviously other regional authorities which decide it, but they're the biggies :) |
| 04:52.26 | prot-home | TimRiker: yeah, at the ITU conference I attended there were some presentations by the two companies doing FTTH |
| 04:53.20 | TimRiker | why just 100mbit? |
| 04:53.21 | prot-home | the only reason they can do it is because Tokyo is so dense that the last mile drops are cost effective |
| 04:53.42 | prot-home | TimRiker: 100mbit guaranteed, I think it was 1.4Gb burst |
| 04:53.54 | TimRiker | sweet. |
| 04:54.20 | prot-home | almost made me want to move to Tokyo |
| 04:54.32 | ElectricElf | Yeah, Japan seems like Where It's At these days. |
| 04:54.35 | TimRiker | well, better get some sleep. home inspection tomorrow. http://rikers.org/allen/ |
| 04:54.45 | ElectricElf | Though Canada's got some niftystuff going on too, so I doubt I'll be going anywhere :) |
| 04:54.52 | ElectricElf | TimRiker: 'nite |
| 04:54.58 | TimRiker | nite all |
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| 05:13.55 | doughecka | hey MrApathyCream |
| 05:13.59 | MrApathyCream | yo |
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| 05:31.53 | Patlabor221 | mac lives |
| 05:35.17 | MrApathyCream | i do? |
| 05:35.27 | Patlabor221 | well that's just what I heard :) |
| 05:35.34 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 05:35.50 | Patlabor221 | how goes it? |
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| 05:36.24 | ElectricElf | prot-home: aka proton? |
| 05:36.56 | prot-home | ElectricElf: indeed |
| 05:37.04 | ElectricElf | prot-home: Haven't seen you on ducati lately :) |
| 05:37.10 | ElectricElf | Though I might just be blind and deaf. |
| 05:37.25 | prot-home | there's a very good reason you haven't seen me |
| 05:37.36 | prot-home | i haven't been playing bz |
| 05:37.43 | ElectricElf | Ah :) |
| 05:38.02 | MrApathyCream | busy |
| 05:39.12 | MrApathyCream | i see g2 was a raving success |
| 05:39.29 | prot-home | MrApathyCream: yup |
| 05:40.06 | Patlabor221 | should call the G2 release "yes it's realy done" |
| 05:40.23 | Patlabor221 | or "don't mess with texas" |
| 05:40.31 | prot-home | heh |
| 05:40.47 | MrApathyCream | welp i'll check back in a month or so |
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| 08:05.42 | prot-home | entertain me! |
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| 08:47.14 | ak|ra | moin |
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| 11:02.08 | larsl | ~xmission |
| 11:02.43 | larsl | BZuddha is cheating. He joins green, takes the green flag to purple base, joins purple, captures it. |
| 11:05.23 | larsl | ~logs |
| 11:05.24 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 11:07.46 | larsl | He's doing it all the time. |
| 11:13.16 | [dmp] | ~ducatictf |
| 11:13.29 | [dmp] | ~bzgirls |
| 11:16.02 | larsl | No xmission admins here? |
| 11:25.53 | larsl | ~xmision |
| 11:25.59 | larsl | ~xmission |
| 11:26.09 | larsl | Well, he seems to be gone. |
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| 15:56.37 | Cell | gurgle |
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| 17:08.57 | doughecka | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 17:10.08 | Patlabor221 | sup |
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| 18:29.53 | BaDiN | olá |
| 18:30.47 | BaDiN | any team to play right now? |
| 18:31.27 | bzgirl | i cant badin |
| 18:31.35 | BaDiN | oh, why? |
| 18:31.58 | BaDiN | oh well, gonna look for HOW |
| 18:31.58 | bzgirl | need teamate |
| 18:32.00 | BaDiN | cya * |
| 18:40.24 | larsl | ~xmission |
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| 19:12.05 | [TeA|TrEE] | weee back again :) |
| 19:12.12 | [TeA|TrEE] | long time no see |
| 19:14.17 | larsl | I really, really want to do a 'no-spawn-at-base-on-join'-patch. |
| 19:14.56 | larsl | How about a server option '-basespawn'? |
| 19:15.00 | Patlabor221 | so do it |
| 19:32.51 | Patlabor221 | bahh the GL programing guide has no good descriptions of lights |
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| 20:02.10 | larsl | Is there any logic to the message IDs in Protocol.h, or should I just use one that's free? |
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| 20:07.19 | Cell | lo, need to translate text german to slovak, where was that online transaltor? |
| 20:07.20 | larsl | Ah, it's alphanumerical abbreviations of the message names, written in hex. |
| 20:09.13 | Cell | google can translate? |
| 20:11.08 | Cell | bable fish has not all languages damn |
| 20:12.10 | Cell | grrr |
| 20:12.59 | Cell | fuck |
| 20:13.07 | Cell | you |
| 20:14.07 | Cell | loosers |
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| 21:45.30 | PerfectCell | lo |
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| 22:01.46 | Cell | Can someone explain this regex plz? : m/^:.*!.*PRIVMSG $nick \:.*say (.*)$/i |
| 22:02.14 | Cell | ^is a not? |
| 22:02.32 | Cell | \: whats that |
| 22:04.21 | Cell | dont think this coincidents with the msdn documentation for regex in c# |
| 22:04.30 | Cell | weierd |
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| 22:10.07 | Skipp | anyone up for a match around 23:30 GMT against the BiPs |
| 22:12.16 | larsl | Cell: \: Simply means ':'. |
| 22:12.25 | larsl | \ is for escaping special characters. |
| 22:15.42 | Cell | hello |
| 22:17.56 | Skipp | if any of u guys see and of HoWs tell them to come to ducati to talk to big barrel :) |
| 22:18.06 | Skipp | trying to get a match |
| 22:18.09 | Skipp | in |
| 22:18.18 | Cell | hello |
| 22:23.03 | Patlabor221 | gahh why do books still insist on code listings |
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| 22:23.49 | Cell | hello |
| 22:25.19 | csharpbot | hello |
| 22:26.34 | Cell | hello hello |
| 22:26.55 | Patlabor221 | again with the bots? |
| 22:27.15 | Cell | i have just converted Noodlebot to plain c# |
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| 22:32.36 | Cell | can someone give me a regex that matches each sequence of equal occurance of to tokens: like: ab, aabb, aaabbb, aaaabbbb ....? |
| 22:39.17 | Cell | gurgle |
| 22:39.42 | Cell | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrg |
| 22:41.17 | Cell | rm |
| 22:41.23 | Cell | rm . |
| 22:42.19 | Cell | need a disk file recovery utility |
| 22:43.20 | Cell | how do i delete a file from hd? |
| 22:43.27 | Cell | permanently? |
| 22:43.31 | Patlabor221 | del |
| 22:43.34 | Cell | not recoverable? |
| 22:43.48 | Patlabor221 | no way in base windows |
| 22:44.06 | Patlabor221 | interpol coming to your house? |
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| 22:44.32 | Cell | tax office |
| 22:45.03 | Patlabor221 | and you think they are gonna run a squid on your machine to find files? |
| 22:45.07 | Patlabor221 | what did you do? |
| 22:45.22 | Cell | they take all hd's |
| 22:45.36 | Patlabor221 | damn you must pissed of someone |
| 22:45.42 | Patlabor221 | break the drive |
| 22:46.13 | larsl | Cell: You could check if there are any Windows versions of 'shred'. |
| 22:46.27 | Cell | yes my drive is SCSI |
| 22:46.30 | Patlabor221 | I know norton does a shred too |
| 22:46.33 | Cell | and thats to expensive |
| 22:46.39 | Cell | to break |
| 22:46.47 | Patlabor221 | but they are going to take it |
| 22:47.02 | Cell | but i get it back, of coz |
| 22:47.40 | Cell | i know they come in the early morning |
| 22:47.49 | larsl | Patch hacked and submitted. =) |
| 22:48.01 | larsl | And it doesn't break old clients or servers. |
| 22:48.03 | Patlabor221 | how do old clients handle it |
| 22:48.05 | Patlabor221 | cool |
| 22:48.12 | larsl | The clients simply ignore it. |
| 22:48.19 | Cell | whats new? |
| 22:48.37 | Patlabor221 | server side spawns |
| 22:48.45 | Cell | he? |
| 22:48.47 | larsl | Not really server side spawns (yet). |
| 22:48.51 | Patlabor221 | oh |
| 22:49.00 | Patlabor221 | what does it do then |
| 22:49.03 | larsl | It just tells the clients if they should spawn on the base or not. =P |
| 22:49.07 | Cell | wtf is that good for? |
| 22:49.16 | Patlabor221 | well that's a start |
| 22:49.26 | larsl | But I'd like to move all the spawn code to the server, and send position and orientation instead. |
| 22:49.48 | Patlabor221 | so do it |
| 22:50.21 | larsl | I will. Not tonight, though. |
| 22:50.47 | Patlabor221 | pftt it's just 3:00 get on it :) |
| 22:51.05 | larsl | I'm trying to sync my sleeping time with the rest of the country. =) |
| 22:51.12 | Cell | midnight |
| 22:51.13 | bzgirl | larsl: the spawns in ctf should differ than in FFA i think |
| 22:51.15 | Cell | in 10 min |
| 22:51.40 | larsl | bzgirl: How do you mean? |
| 22:51.47 | larsl | There are no bases in FFA. |
| 22:52.30 | bzgirl | larsl: but you get spawned far away from people in ffa, facing the wall...... |
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| 22:52.51 | bzgirl | larsl: but in ctf i think you should get spawned relative to the flags |
| 22:52.56 | michaelh2 | how does Bzflag know where in space to put the parts? |
| 22:52.57 | larsl | bzgirl: Oh. I haven't looked at the actual calculations. |
| 22:53.07 | larsl | bzgirl: That sounds reasonable. |
| 22:53.22 | bzgirl | like if the other team has our flag, it seems we get spawned way down the other end of the feild |
| 22:53.29 | larsl | michaelh2: Which parts? |
| 22:53.32 | Cell | michaelh2:? |
| 22:53.33 | michaelh2 | tank parts |
| 22:53.41 | Cell | random |
| 22:53.49 | michaelh2 | when the tank is *not* exploding :) |
| 22:54.10 | michaelh2 | when it renders the parts of the tank, they have to be put together in the right way |
| 22:54.11 | Patlabor221 | around the tanks position |
| 22:54.21 | Patlabor221 | eahc part is defined aournd the tanks origin |
| 22:54.33 | Cell | yeah |
| 22:54.39 | Patlabor221 | then that local tank orgin is transformed to the tanks real pos |
| 22:54.41 | Patlabor221 | for each tank |
| 22:54.49 | bzgirl | Patlabor221: burning debris would be nice too :) |
| 22:54.58 | Patlabor221 | when exploding there is a rotation point for each part |
| 22:55.04 | larsl | michaelh2: I think it's in src/geometry/TankSceneNode.cxx |
| 22:55.06 | michaelh2 | So they are already modelled in the right way to show up correctly |
| 22:55.12 | Patlabor221 | bzgirl, have thought about that, and it can be done |
| 22:55.14 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 22:55.23 | michaelh2 | what's the TextCoord thingee? |
| 22:55.25 | Patlabor221 | larsl, no it's in the part geo |
| 22:55.30 | larsl | Oh. |
| 22:55.37 | Patlabor221 | it tells how the texture maps onto that vertex |
| 22:55.47 | michaelh2 | Ah so |
| 22:55.58 | Patlabor221 | each vertex of each face maps to a point on the texture |
| 22:56.17 | michaelh2 | blender is *so* much fun to use |
| 22:56.20 | michaelh2 | not |
| 22:56.27 | Patlabor221 | tho for the bz tank it's prety much a random maping |
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| 22:56.35 | Patlabor221 | not like a skined mesh |
| 22:56.37 | Cell | blender looks bad |
| 22:56.54 | Cell | i would try gmax |
| 22:57.02 | michaelh2 | someone on drugs dreamed up the user interface :) |
| 22:57.07 | Cell | its kewl for modelling tanks |
| 22:57.08 | Patlabor221 | silly cell, gmax is windows only |
| 22:57.27 | michaelh2 | windows is nifty :) |
| 22:57.30 | michaelh2 | for me |
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| 22:57.54 | Cell | so try gmax |
| 22:58.13 | Patlabor221 | what can gmax export? |
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| 22:58.33 | Cell | you can make a tank from a box only with the extrusion tools :) |
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| 22:58.49 | Cell | gmay cannot export |
| 22:58.54 | Cell | gmax |
| 22:58.59 | michaelh2 | nuts |
| 22:59.02 | michaelh2 | :) |
| 22:59.09 | Patlabor221 | so bacily it's useless |
| 22:59.17 | michaelh2 | I have some ancient python script for blender |
| 22:59.20 | Cell | no there are scripts |
| 22:59.29 | Cell | that export to pretty everything |
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| 23:00.35 | Cell | lurgyman stop that |
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| 23:01.22 | michaelh2 | anyone know where I can find the API for the python for Blender? |
| 23:01.34 | Patlabor221 | michaelh2, here is an eample of a texure with the UV cords layed on top of it |
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| 23:01.48 | Patlabor221 | well if it will paste :( |
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| 23:02.05 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/Screamers/imgs/Mk3Skin-Panzer.png |
| 23:02.31 | Patlabor221 | the black lines are the texure coordinates for each triangle |
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| 23:03.06 | Cell | ah now i see how that works .) |
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| 23:03.14 | Cell | cool |
| 23:03.45 | Patlabor221 | you didn't know how UV's worked Cel? |
| 23:03.47 | Patlabor221 | damn |
| 23:04.27 | Cell | i knew but now i see how you had to draw outside the edge little bit |
| 23:05.00 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah if you don't when the texture is scaled it will pick up texel parts from outside otherwise |
| 23:05.01 | larsl | ~logs |
| 23:05.03 | | http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz |
| 23:06.54 | Cell | did u used the wire as a layer in photoshop? |
| 23:07.01 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:07.08 | Cell | ah |
| 23:07.30 | Patlabor221 | origonal skin has like 17 layers |
| 23:07.54 | Cell | so many, wow. Do u have a pic with the wire only? |
| 23:08.09 | Cell | so i can draw a texture |
| 23:08.15 | Cell | for practice |
| 23:09.40 | [STC]_creeperz | I have just had the worst experience with Doritos ever! |
| 23:09.54 | Patlabor221 | TMI man |
| 23:10.00 | Cell | and you really done the texture coordinates unwrap in milkshape? |
| 23:10.01 | [STC]_creeperz | ...They came out of my nose! |
| 23:10.14 | [STC]_creeperz | All chewed up... |
| 23:10.24 | [STC]_creeperz | Pretty gross :) |
| 23:10.25 | Patlabor221 | again TM! |
| 23:10.28 | Patlabor221 | TMI even |
| 23:10.31 | [STC]_creeperz | TMI? |
| 23:10.36 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, tmi? |
| 23:10.37 | | tmi stands for too much information |
| 23:10.40 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 23:10.41 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh :) |
| 23:11.39 | Cell | what is better/easier for distance measure one or two cams? |
| 23:11.41 | [STC]_creeperz | I was just eating eating Doritoes and playing Mou (??) in this van going down the road... Someone did something funny and *POOF* All over the front of me |
| 23:11.43 | Patlabor221 | cell www.bakadigital.com/images/pods/zip |
| 23:11.59 | Cell | does not work :( |
| 23:12.01 | Patlabor221 | that has all the skins, the PSD file, and the wireframe |
| 23:12.06 | Patlabor221 | cell www.bakadigital.com/images/pods.zip |
| 23:12.08 | Patlabor221 | try that |
| 23:12.21 | Cell | ah, muchas gratias |
| 23:12.37 | Cell | big |
| 23:12.49 | Patlabor221 | 7 megs uncompresed |
| 23:13.07 | [STC]_creeperz | Geez |
| 23:13.13 | [STC]_creeperz | ...My nose hurts |
| 23:14.22 | Patlabor221 | 7 megs is not bad for all the source art |
| 23:14.30 | Cell | wha all the layers? |
| 23:14.53 | Patlabor221 | just difrent parts |
| 23:14.57 | Patlabor221 | makes it easyer to edit |
| 23:15.13 | Cell | ah, like in flash |
| 23:15.13 | Patlabor221 | there are 10 files in that zip |
| 23:15.30 | Cell | aready opened in photoshop |
| 23:15.30 | Patlabor221 | yes sort of |
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| 23:15.51 | Patlabor221 | layers let me change the color of just like the paint |
| 23:15.54 | Patlabor221 | but not the metal |
| 23:17.01 | Cell | you used your own brushes |
| 23:17.18 | Patlabor221 | huh? |
| 23:17.18 | Cell | or did you select some patterns from photoshop? |
| 23:17.21 | [STC]_creeperz | GIMP? |
| 23:17.28 | [STC]_creeperz | Ahh |
| 23:17.36 | Patlabor221 | I used what ever tools were needed for the operation |
| 23:17.48 | Cell | i mean for the structured parts, tha llok like a bump |
| 23:18.07 | Patlabor221 | like the black thing on the back? |
| 23:18.13 | Patlabor221 | or the pannel lines? |
| 23:18.33 | Cell | yeah the black holes |
| 23:18.41 | Patlabor221 | airbrush |
| 23:18.44 | Patlabor221 | by hand |
| 23:18.48 | Cell | wow |
| 23:18.57 | Patlabor221 | used some other stuff as guide tho |
| 23:19.19 | Patlabor221 | the black holes all around the engine tho are just a layer effect tho |
| 23:19.29 | Patlabor221 | bevel |
| 23:19.33 | Cell | ah |
| 23:19.45 | Patlabor221 | tho the holes are just on a layer by themselves |
| 23:19.54 | Patlabor221 | think it's outer bevel |
| 23:20.31 | Cell | outer glow? |
| 23:20.35 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 23:20.42 | Patlabor221 | bevel and emboss |
| 23:20.46 | Patlabor221 | then outer bevel |
| 23:20.49 | Patlabor221 | look at the layer |
| 23:20.52 | Patlabor221 | it has it right there |
| 23:21.59 | Cell | i dont get that, too late, too many layers, i try tomorrow |
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| 23:22.45 | Cell | how long did it take to make the texture? |
| 23:22.57 | Patlabor221 | couple hours |
| 23:23.31 | Cell | ah, so i need one week |
| 23:24.39 | Patlabor221 | ugg, well at least it's better then this old one www.bakadigital.com/Iso.png |
| 23:25.35 | Cell | yes, but pretty nice too though |
| 23:25.49 | Patlabor221 | those are very bland and booring |
| 23:26.08 | Patlabor221 | tho the first pod had 2 triangles |
| 23:26.11 | Patlabor221 | sory 12 |
| 23:26.39 | Cell | well thats very well for game boy 3d |
| 23:27.38 | Patlabor221 | www.bakadigital.com/Screamers/Pod.png |
| 23:28.15 | Cell | ah nice evolution |
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| 23:28.45 | Patlabor221 | that was over like 5 years |
| 23:29.10 | Cell | who learned you photoshop? |
| 23:29.32 | larsl | Is it a bug or a feature that you can jump backwards into a building when you have OO, but not drive backwards? |
| 23:29.46 | Patlabor221 | the ventura county comunity college school distric |
| 23:29.55 | Patlabor221 | it is a bug |
| 23:30.02 | Patlabor221 | but won't be fixxed till 2.0 |
| 23:30.24 | larsl | As all the other collision detection issues. |
| 23:30.51 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:30.57 | [STC]_creeperz | Uugh, I'm setting IrfanView my default image viewer :) |
| 23:31.00 | Cell | ah, my eyes hurt, i need a shower |
| 23:31.12 | Patlabor221 | because if it was done now old clients would still have the issue and still be able to play |
| 23:31.25 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea |
| 23:31.46 | [STC]_creeperz | Then new people to the game would be calling the old client users "cheaters" |
| 23:31.56 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 23:32.06 | [STC]_creeperz | BRB |
| 23:32.20 | [STC]_creeperz | I'm going to rinse out my nose...It stings like **** |
| 23:32.44 | Patlabor221 | dood, let it go |
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| 23:49.44 | [STC]_creeperz | Ick |
| 23:49.52 | [STC]_creeperz | Feel better now |
| 23:50.00 | [STC]_creeperz | Listerine took it all out |
| 23:50.13 | [STC]_creeperz | I didn't put it in my nose :) |
| 23:50.53 | [STC]_creeperz | 51 new e-mail |
| 23:52.53 | Chestal | this will be a bad night |
