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00:00.38dougheckayea
00:01.13jzaunwell, that bites
00:01.56Jormungandris it on every server?
00:02.00jzaunyup
00:02.04Jormungandr:(
00:02.14Jormungandrdid you try rebooting?
00:02.24jzaunI rebooted last night
00:02.32jzaunI suppose I could try again later
00:02.33Jormungandrwhen did the problems start?
00:03.09jzaunheh, today... but I haven't have bzf installed for about a month
00:03.32Jormungandrafter the traffic dies down on secretplace, I'm gunna change out the map to FFA and put my CTF version of megadome on dragon.org :)
00:12.57ChestalTim: looks fine to me
01:20.54larsl~bzlist
01:23.07larsl~bzflist
02:06.52*** join/#bzflag trepan (trepan@CPE0040f42db082-CM00e06f15f704.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)
02:09.52*** join/#bzflag faz_ (~faz@M288P027.dipool.highway.telekom.at)
02:57.04*** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@adsl-64-167-78-21.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)
02:58.52Patlabor221hey, anyone know what the permisions for a folder need to be set to for php to be able to write to it?
03:06.23fiberchunksuser n grp need write perm, iirc
03:11.39Patlabor221hey, how goes it
03:11.51Patlabor221what user does php use?
03:12.12fiberchunksk just cut my finger off :)
03:12.28Patlabor221that's not good.
03:12.31Patlabor221like loped off?
03:12.40fiberchunksnobody, iirc
03:12.53fiberchunksnah real deep though
03:13.05Patlabor221hate cuts to the finger
03:13.24Patlabor221I have a bzbb database made, but when I run the phpbb install it says it can't create the config
03:13.24fiberchunksnow I've a matching set of scars
03:13.25fiberchunks:)
03:13.55fiberchunksah, just download the config and manually copy it to the bzbb directory
03:14.06Patlabor221well now you have 1 scar and one soon to be scar
03:14.14fiberchunksheh true
03:15.36fiberchunksdoes the install give you the option to download the config file? or does it simply refuse to try and config it?
03:15.44Patlabor221yeah I think it did
03:16.06fiberchunksjust download it to some directory and manually copy it over then
03:16.47Patlabor221hmm now I get the error
03:16.47Patlabor221An error has occurred during installation    An error occurred trying to update the database
03:16.48Patlabor221Table 'phpbb_auth_access' already exists
03:17.08fiberchunksfrag the db, and redo the install
03:23.16[dmp]Perhaps we should, at some point, integrate the ladder with your site.
03:24.47fiberchunksthere were 3 integration things going on, that I've never gotten around to -- 1) integration with bzflag league site (Valoche), 2) grabbing the old messages from bzfranks forum and archiving them, and 3) integration with the ladder (dmp - future growth)
03:25.02Patlabor221gahhhhhhhh my perms are all jacked I can't even ftp the file
03:25.12fiberchunksall of which are possible, but like I told Patlabor221, I just don't have the time anymore
03:25.20fiberchunksscp it
03:25.26[dmp]Oh
03:25.40[dmp]just seems pointless to have so many bz-related sites :)
03:26.04Patlabor221would the later go with the bb or with stats?
03:26.08fiberchunkshence why we're getting Patlabor221 to admin this site, and eventually transfer it to his control (once he gets his shite together that is ;)  )
03:26.19Patlabor221I'm working it :)
03:27.01fiberchunksprob be better with stats, imho, and since noodleman is re-working it -- now would be a perfect time to get it in there properly
03:27.14Patlabor221scp user@host /wher/my/file.is /where/i/want/it.togo ?
03:27.42fiberchunksno, scp /path/to/file/local user@host:/path/where/it/should/go
03:27.51fiberchunksthen enter password
03:28.00Patlabor221k
03:29.07Patlabor221just gives me a > propmt
03:29.14fiberchunkshrm, one minute
03:29.23Patlabor221now wait I jonsed
03:29.44fiberchunkswhat?
03:29.46fiberchunksjonsed?
03:29.47fiberchunks:)
03:29.55Patlabor221no same thing
03:30.03Patlabor221first time i forgot the :
03:30.07fiberchunkshrm
03:30.23fiberchunks<PROTECTED>
03:30.23fiberchunks<PROTECTED>
03:30.23fiberchunks<PROTECTED>
03:30.40Patlabor221ohh yeah that's helpfull
03:31.07fiberchunkswell, should be:   #scp ./foo me@myhost:foo  
03:31.29fiberchunksif foo is in the current directory, that is
03:31.33Patlabor221scp /home/JeffM/config.php" root@astarg.bakadigital.com:/var/www/bzbb/config.php
03:31.58[dmp]remove the " ..
03:31.59fiberchunksah, you prob can't scp things as root -- but what's with the " at the end of php?
03:32.05fiberchunkswhat he said ;)
03:32.20Patlabor221that's what it put in the file when I downloaded it
03:32.39fiberchunkswierd
03:32.48fiberchunks~spell wierd
03:32.50possible spellings for wierd: weird weirdo weed wider wired word Wed wed Wier Ward vied ward we'd wield wide Waiter Weider waiter weedy weirds weired whiter wooed wordy weirder weirdie weirs Wier's Wit weir wet wit wire wifed wiled wined wiped wised wived winer wiper wirer wiser witter wried
03:32.55fiberchunksah, weird
03:33.32fiberchunksconfig.php is a real trivial file to make by hand
03:33.39Patlabor221it's sorta going now
03:33.40fiberchunkslemme see if I have it on my laptop
03:33.49Patlabor221just complaining about my ssh know host key
03:33.58Patlabor221since the machine got a new install since i've sshed to it
03:33.59fiberchunksah
03:34.21fiberchunks~dict wifed
03:35.39fiberchunksPatlabor221: I gotta get back to installing insulation, but send me an email, and I'll get around to ssh'ng into asgard, and checking permissions and such (prob next week or so) -- also, I'll mail you the current db, so you can fiddle with it and get used to it fore we make it official :)
03:37.53fiberchunksif you don't already have my email -- PM me at the board, and I'll give you it -- later on cats ;)
03:38.40Patlabor221are ok
03:38.42Patlabor221ok
03:39.13[dmp]I guess i'll talk with Noodleman about a possible integration, if ever :) Right now i need to get some sleep.
03:42.00Patlabor221well there we go, now all I need is the theme and the database, and all the avatars
03:42.21Patlabor221and the smileys
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03:46.32[STC]_creeperzAnyone know how to connect to this place from the IRC client?
03:46.39[STC]_creeperzI am completely lost
03:47.36[STC]_creeperzAnyone?
03:47.46Patlabor221what do you put in for the server?
03:47.58[STC]_creeperzHmmm?
03:48.07[STC]_creeperzI don't know how to do it
03:48.10[STC]_creeperzWhere?
03:48.15[STC]_creeperz...
03:48.18[STC]_creeperzWhat?
03:48.18Patlabor221what Irc client do you use?
03:48.32captain_protonwow
03:48.34[STC]_creeperzThe one from www.mirc.com
03:48.38captain_protoni've completely ignored this channel for a week
03:48.40Patlabor221ok so mirc
03:48.55[STC]_creeperzOk
03:48.56Patlabor221well that's not entirely true
03:49.05[STC]_creeperzWhat isn't?
03:49.09Patlabor221let me get windows on the other mahcine
03:49.13Patlabor221you have been here this weke
03:49.15Patlabor221week
03:49.25[STC]_creeperzSomeone help me
03:49.30Patlabor221then I'll boot mirc so I can see what it needs
03:49.44Patlabor221captain_proton: wow?
03:50.08captain_protonPatlabor221: but i haven't really payed attention to anything
03:50.51Patlabor221man EQ takes forever to quit
03:51.04[STC]_creeperzWhat?
03:51.09Patlabor221EQ
03:51.16Patlabor221EverQuest
03:51.19captain_protonether-qrunch
03:51.22[STC]_creeperzOh
03:51.23captain_protondamn
03:51.27Patlabor221neverrest
03:51.30Patlabor221evvercrack
03:51.33Patlabor221all those
03:51.39captain_protonextra-quacky\
03:51.51Patlabor221ok when you run MIRC it should bring up a thing that says mIRC options
03:51.54[STC]_creeperzWTF?
03:51.56Patlabor221and it has a list of cerver
03:51.58[STC]_creeperzOk
03:51.59Patlabor221servers
03:52.19[STC]_creeperzOk
03:52.21Patlabor221pull down the list till it says Openprojects: random server
03:52.24Patlabor221then hit edit
03:52.35[STC]_creeperzOk
03:52.37Patlabor221then where it says IRC: server
03:52.50[STC]_creeperzyes
03:52.57Patlabor221change irc.openprojcts.net to irc.freenode.net
03:53.02Patlabor221then hit ok
03:53.11Patlabor221then put in your name and nick and stuff
03:53.19[STC]_creeperzOk
03:53.21[STC]_creeperzthnx
03:53.22Patlabor221and hit "connect to IRC server"
03:53.25[STC]_creeperzbrb
03:53.28Patlabor221I'm not done
03:53.32Patlabor221dumbass
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03:54.27NoSoup4Uphear the soup
03:57.56*** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (~42e70dae@203.194.240.139)
03:58.05[STC]_creeperzOk, that didn't work
03:58.15[STC]_creeperzI just kept getting disconnected
03:58.17Patlabor221of course, cus you left before I was done
03:58.25[STC]_creeperzOhhh!
03:58.28[STC]_creeperzlol
03:58.34Patlabor221just calm down
03:58.35[STC]_creeperzOk
03:58.50Patlabor221now you put in your name and 2 nicks?
03:58.59[STC]_creeperzYes
03:59.15Patlabor221and you hit connect to irc server, and not OK?
03:59.22[STC]_creeperzEmail, Real Name, Nickname, Alternative
03:59.26Patlabor221k
03:59.33TimRikerChestal: cool (/me lags ;-)
03:59.36[STC]_creeperzYes
03:59.50Patlabor221then did it go and say "connecting to host", "loking up hostname" and all that?
03:59.59[STC]_creeperz...
04:00.04[STC]_creeperzLet me check
04:00.46Patlabor221then it should bring up a channel list when you get the motd
04:00.49[STC]_creeperzHow bout I upload pic to site and show you?
04:01.00Patlabor221just tell me what it did
04:01.11Patlabor221but sure if you want a pic have at it
04:01.25[STC]_creeperzIt keeps cycling through these responses as if it were trying to reconnect
04:01.25*** join/#bzflag NoSoup4U (~40a74e15@203.194.240.139)
04:01.41[STC]_creeperzIn a min. After you're done
04:01.43Patlabor221are you actualy connected to the internet when you try this
04:01.57[STC]_creeperzI take screenie and show you whats happ'n
04:02.03[STC]_creeperzYES!
04:02.41*** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (~42e70dae@203.194.240.139)
04:02.49[STC]_creeperzI show you
04:02.52[STC]_creeperzbrb
04:02.53Patlabor221ok
04:04.34TimRiker[STC]_creeperz: get mIRC working? tell it to connect to irc.freenode.net and then use the channel window or /join #BZFlag
04:04.50TimRikerwhat's the URL for the CGI interface you are using currently?
04:04.54Patlabor221I had him change that, but he's still having issues it seems
04:05.31Patlabor221yes
04:05.52Patlabor221the simple "just do this" answers don't seem to work for him
04:06.06[STC]_creeperzUUGH!! My site is all buggered up! I can't connect
04:06.24Patlabor221what host does it say it's trying to connect to?
04:06.44Patlabor221when you tell MIRC to connect it will scrool the connection text
04:06.49Patlabor221and say the server
04:06.59[STC]_creeperzirc.freenode.com
04:07.10Patlabor221it's .net
04:07.13Patlabor221not .com
04:07.29[STC]_creeperzI meant .net
04:07.36[STC]_creeperzits .net
04:07.45Patlabor221and does it say "can't look up host" or anything like that?
04:07.49captain_protoneebkac
04:08.05TimRikereebkac?
04:08.07[STC]_creeperz"Couldn't look up your host name"
04:08.19[STC]_creeperzIpicack?
04:08.26[STC]_creeperzThat stuff's nasty!
04:08.28Patlabor221make you puke
04:08.36[STC]_creeperzYea
04:08.36TimRikeropen a command window and try "ping irc.freenode.net"
04:08.49Patlabor221does ME even have ping?
04:08.54[STC]_creeperzMS-DOS Prompt window?
04:08.58TimRikeryes iirc
04:08.58Patlabor221yes
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04:09.15Patlabor221it dosn't have nslookup sadly
04:09.30TimRikeryeah, nslookup is for real OSes
04:09.49[STC]_creeperzOk, it gives me a list of info
04:10.11Patlabor221what does it say?
04:10.25[STC]_creeperzI'm not copying it all down!
04:10.32[STC]_creeperzReply from...
04:10.40[STC]_creeperz...
04:10.42Patlabor221yes that's your name server
04:10.57Patlabor221does it have like some nubers like 196.123.4.1
04:11.06[STC]_creeperzAverage= 291ms
04:11.11[STC]_creeperzYes
04:11.14Patlabor221well you can ping it
04:11.23Patlabor221next is you may have the port blocked
04:11.39Patlabor221who do you use for your ISP? do they use a proxy or any type of filterin?
04:12.05[STC]_creeperzSantel.net
04:12.14[STC]_creeperzI don't beleive so
04:12.19[STC]_creeperzbelieve*
04:12.32Patlabor221hmmm
04:12.42[STC]_creeperzToo many appre. in comp talk!
04:12.57Patlabor221leave the web browser up and try it again
04:13.07[STC]_creeperzI did this last time
04:13.18Patlabor221well by all rights it should work
04:13.18[STC]_creeperzIt just kicked me from this
04:13.25Patlabor221it shouldn't
04:13.37[STC]_creeperzI think it did
04:13.51[STC]_creeperzNot sure
04:14.01Patlabor221you ghosted
04:14.12Patlabor221that means you would have had to connect and then ghost
04:14.22Patlabor221so you would not have goten that error
04:14.22[STC]_creeperzWhat?
04:14.25[STC]_creeperzGhosted?
04:14.48Patlabor221told the nick server to kick you off
04:14.51[STC]_creeperznow it says "invalid username"
04:15.03Patlabor221what is in the name fields?
04:15.27[STC]_creeperzcreeperz and creeperZ
04:16.01Patlabor221what bout real name and e-mail?
04:16.08*** join/#bzflag creeperz (creeperz@66.231.13.174)
04:16.14[STC]_creeperzI'm in!
04:16.16Patlabor221and there you go
04:16.18[STC]_creeperzYES!!!
04:16.29[STC]_creeperzI had to do something you didn't tell me
04:16.39Patlabor221type /join #bzflag?
04:16.46Patlabor221I was gonna tell you that but you left
04:16.52creeperzYea
04:16.55creeperzlol
04:16.58creeperzI got it now
04:17.01creeperz...
04:17.04creeperzMuch faster
04:17.14creeperz...And no Double-Posting!
04:17.14Patlabor221welcome to the real world kidoo
04:17.29Patlabor221you can change to your old name by typeing /nick newname
04:17.35creeperzI've used this before... I need to get used to it again though
04:17.57[STC]Ooopz
04:18.03Patlabor221you can't have spaces
04:18.18[STC]_creeperzI know, I forgot
04:18.20[STC]_creeperzlol
04:18.25[STC]_creeperzThis is awesome!
04:18.49Patlabor221actualy MRIC is considerd kinda crapy
04:19.08[STC]_creeperzI kinda like it
04:19.21[STC]_creeperzHaha
04:19.28Patlabor221yes it was designed for munchkins
04:19.30[STC]_creeperzWhat is the point is that?
04:19.41[STC]_creeperzI still like this...
04:19.43Patlabor221dosn't rely have on
04:19.48[STC]_creeperz~lart Patlabor221
04:19.58[STC]_creeperzWhat wall?
04:21.34[STC]_creeperzWhat?
04:21.37[STC]_creeperzNullBolt?
04:21.46Patlabor221yes
04:21.52Patlabor221you can't talk you imploded
04:21.53[STC]_creeperzFake wall?
04:22.10[STC]_creeperzReally?
04:22.27[STC]_creeperzOh
04:22.28[STC]_creeperzOk
04:22.32Patlabor221yes I doubt you have more then 8 hp
04:22.39[STC]_creeperz8 hp?
04:22.41Patlabor221don't realy know what implde is do you?
04:22.52[STC]_creeperzNo idea
04:23.10Patlabor221never took a physics class?
04:23.13[STC]_creeperz"implide" To 'con' someone into doing a deed
04:23.22[STC]_creeperz~dict implide
04:23.32Patlabor221~dict implode
04:23.33[STC]_creeperzI'm an 8th grader
04:23.45[STC]_creeperz...Kinda like the H-Bomb does
04:23.57[STC]_creeperz?
04:24.06Patlabor221no they explode
04:24.14Patlabor221kinda like what a black hole does
04:24.16[STC]_creeperzReally?
04:24.26[STC]_creeperzBlack holes inplode?
04:24.30[STC]_creeperzimplode*
04:24.33Patlabor221yes ex meaning "OUT" in meaning "IN"
04:24.36captain_protonthey don't implode
04:24.41captain_protonex!
04:24.53[STC]_creeperzExplode, H-Bomb does?
04:25.09captain_protonyes, bombs explode
04:25.15[STC]_creeperzgenerally
04:25.19Patlabor221the catalysit of an hbox is a chaped charge to compress duterium
04:25.28Patlabor221then it blows all the hell up
04:25.38[STC]_creeperzReally?
04:25.42Patlabor221yes
04:25.48Patlabor221how else would it do dammage
04:25.51captain_protonyay for heavy hydrogen
04:26.12Patlabor221in simple terms implosions are "GRAND SUCKINGS"
04:26.16[STC]_creeperzsucking the air out of a pipe (recalls the movie that Jeff made him download) will generally cause it to colapse
04:26.34Patlabor221even tho "suction" is not a thing
04:26.44[STC]_creeperzSucking all O2 toward the center?
04:26.45Patlabor221depends on how strong the pipe is
04:26.54[STC]_creeperzYea
04:26.56captain_proton[STC]_creeperz: it doesn't get sucked in!
04:26.57Patlabor221why does there have to be oxygen in it
04:26.58captain_protonit gets pushed in
04:27.03[STC]_creeperz...Sucking the air out of a straw
04:27.15Patlabor221you know how straws work right?
04:27.25captain_protonPatlabor221: no he doesn't
04:27.28[STC]_creeperztwo holes, put lips on it...suck
04:27.29Patlabor221you don't suck the soda up, the air outside pushes it up
04:27.40[STC]_creeperzI know
04:27.43[STC]_creeperzScience
04:27.53[STC]_creeperz"Bill Nye the Science Guy"
04:27.55Patlabor221you create a low pressure system in your mouth by expanding your lungs in a closed gas system
04:28.06[STC]_creeperz...
04:28.19[STC]_creeperzI think that Bill used to be a genocolagist
04:28.24[STC]_creeperzWasn't he?
04:28.32[STC]_creeperzI hope I spelled that right
04:28.42[STC]_creeperz~spell genocolagist
04:28.43possible spellings for genocolagist: gynecologist oncologist genealogist gynecologists gemologist geologist penologist gerontologist ecologist
04:28.43Patlabor221I don't know that's not realy the best way to learn things
04:29.06[STC]_creeperz~dict genocolatist
04:29.20[STC]_creeperzObviously spelled incorrectly
04:29.33[STC]_creeperzWho here is interested in Garth Nix books?
04:29.38Patlabor221it's the one that has a y in it I beleve
04:29.54[STC]_creeperzOh
04:30.04[STC]_creeperzOk
04:30.10Patlabor221and you know what it is
04:30.14[STC]_creeperzYes
04:30.30[STC]_creeperz~dict gynecolagist
04:30.46[STC]_creeperz~dict gynecologist
04:30.54[STC]_creeperzThatk you!
04:31.10[STC]_creeperz~dict gynecology
04:31.38[STC]_creeperz...its a little deeper than that... Oh well
04:32.17[STC]_creeperzOk
04:32.45[STC]_creeperzI am changing my colors a tad... I can't tell messages apart
04:33.01Patlabor221you don't remember what you say?
04:33.09hiHmmm?
04:35.03Patlabor221welp bzbb is ready for a test transfer
04:35.10Patlabor221all I need now is the database
04:35.42[STC]_creeperzoopz
04:35.50Patlabor221thank you
04:35.54[STC]_creeperzlol
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04:38.54[stc]_creeperzwho the hell are you?
04:38.55creeperZWhy did I yawn?
04:39.11[stc]_creeperzyou didn't I did.
04:39.11creeperZSomeone's on my nick??
04:39.20[stc]_creeperzyours?
04:39.40creeperZI usually am [STC]_creeperz!
04:39.49creeperZ??
04:39.52[stc]_creeperzyou are? well I registerd this.
04:39.55creeperZWhats up around here?
04:39.56Patlabor221LOL
04:40.01[stc]_creeperzyeah,
04:40.05[stc]_creeperzwho are you?
04:40.27creeperZthe REAL creeperz
04:40.40[stc]_creeperzbull
04:40.51creeperZWho are you??!
04:40.54[stc]_creeperzI've been coming here for like 3 months on this
04:41.03creeperZReally? On my nick?
04:41.10creeperZI've never seen you here before
04:41.23[stc]_creeperzno, on my nick
04:41.31[stc]_creeperzand I've never seen you
04:41.32creeperZWhat IS your nick?
04:41.44creeperZand why do you have [STC]?
04:41.46[stc]_creeperzthis one
04:41.51creeperZibot, stc?
04:41.52stc is probably spine tinglaz clan, name property of [STC] creeperz
04:41.57creeperZME!
04:42.08[stc]_creeperzzactly
04:42.12[stc]_creeperzme
04:42.16[stc]_creeperzsee my name in there
04:42.18creeperZReally?
04:42.28creeperZAm I having an argument with myself again?
04:42.45[stc]_creeperzI registerd this name, so it has to be mine
04:42.59creeperZRealy? You registered a nick??
04:43.01[stc]_creeperzwhy are you trying to impersonate me?
04:43.14creeperZWhy aren't you impersonating yourself?
04:43.38creeperZ~news
04:43.41[stc]_creeperzof course I regisered the nick, any fool would, if he wanted to keep it
04:43.50[stc]_creeperzhey I know who I am.
04:43.54creeperZHow did you register it?
04:44.08[stc]_creeperzwith the normal way
04:44.15creeperZHow would that be?
04:44.37creeperZ...
04:44.46[stc]_creeperzwith nickserv
04:44.50[stc]_creeperzdon't you know anything?
04:44.52creeperZTu, Tu, Tu, Today Junior
04:45.22[stc]_creeperzjunior, I'll have you know I'm 15, that's an adult!
04:45.39creeperZ18 is an adult you retard!
04:45.53creeperZNot 15
04:46.16[stc]_creeperzyour calling me a 'tard and you can't even register a nick
04:46.26creeperZJeff
04:46.30creeperZWhat's up here?
04:46.33Patlabor22118 is normal for an adult man.
04:46.49[stc]_creeperzpffft... only in your little mind
04:46.53Patlabor221I dono
04:46.59Patlabor221who is creeperZ
04:47.11creeperZYou are technically an adult when you reach the age to make free decision (18)
04:47.14creeperZI am
04:47.26creeperZI am the real creeperz
04:47.32[stc]_creeperzhang on dads calling
04:47.40Patlabor221then who is that?
04:47.41creeperZThe one who was having probs with IRC!
04:47.54creeperZThe one who's didn't know how to zoom on BZEdit
04:48.01Patlabor221huh?
04:48.13Patlabor221lots of people don't know how to zoom
04:48.18creeperZWho is that person? Why does he have my nick?!
04:48.41creeperZI am Terry Caulfield, of Huron, South Dakota, USA
04:48.41[stc]_creeperzDAMNIT, I'll be back, and if you here, I want to know why you say I have your nick.
04:48.52creeperZUUGH!!!
04:48.55Patlabor221then who is that?
04:48.59Patlabor221or was
04:49.08[STC]_creeperzYES!!
04:49.12[STC]_creeperzI have my nick back
04:49.14Patlabor221looks like the CGI that creper uses
04:49.24[STC]_creeperzhuh?
04:49.28[STC]_creeperzOh
04:49.39Patlabor221same version
04:49.46[STC]_creeperzprobally from stats?
04:49.51[STC]_creeperzOr SS?
04:50.02Patlabor221there are a number of them
04:50.06Patlabor221but is the stats one even up
04:50.09[STC]_creeperzReally?
04:50.12[STC]_creeperzYes
04:50.18[STC]_creeperzI usually go to there
04:50.29Patlabor221ahh I thought they shut all those down
04:50.29[STC]_creeperzhttp://stats.bzflag.org/chat.php
04:50.36[STC]_creeperzNope
04:50.43[STC]_creeperzIts all goin' cept for the home page
04:50.58[STC]_creeperzThat other creeperz a n00b or sumptin'?
04:51.16Patlabor221they both use the shellshock one
04:51.25[STC]_creeperzHey
04:51.28[STC]_creeperzI am creeperz
04:51.31[STC]_creeperzNot him
04:51.38Patlabor221what ever
04:51.49Patlabor221if you say so
04:51.51[STC]_creeperzI have a runescape member's account with the name creeperz
04:52.03[STC]_creeperzI have a pregnant girl friend
04:52.03Patlabor221what the hell is runescape
04:52.10[STC]_creeperzwww.runescape.com
04:52.12[STC]_creeperzRPG
04:52.16[STC]_creeperzPretty fun
04:52.17Patlabor221tht's nothing to be proud of at your age.
04:52.23[STC]_creeperzI know
04:52.33[STC]_creeperzBut Thats why I want to ID myself to you!
04:53.16Patlabor221but realy you shold register all your names
04:53.18[STC]_creeperzI'm 13
04:53.22[STC]_creeperzHow?
04:53.34[STC]_creeperzI never knew there was such a thing
04:53.36Patlabor221type /msg nickserv
04:53.39TimRiker/msg nickserv help
04:53.43Patlabor221yeah that
04:53.51Patlabor221there is nickserv and chan serv
04:53.59Patlabor221that's what ghosting is
04:54.05[STC]_creeperzOHH!!
04:54.07[STC]_creeperzOk
04:54.17Patlabor221when someone has your nick, they can kick off the user who has it
04:54.21Patlabor221if they have registerd it
04:54.35Patlabor221or like when mac goes dead, he can kill the dead instace of his name
04:54.47[STC]_creeperzSo I need a new name?!!!
04:54.54[STC]_creeperzcreeperz is my life!
04:54.58[STC]_creeperzNot just a nick!
04:55.06[STC]_creeperzI can't live not being creeperz!
04:55.06Patlabor221hunh?
04:55.12Patlabor221why not?
04:55.20[STC]_creeperzI AM ATTACHED TO CREEPERZ!
04:55.31Patlabor221perantly so is he
04:55.34[STC]_creeperzAnd I'm not going to lose it to some shit-nosed punk!
04:55.57Patlabor221well he registerd it, not much you can do unless you can get the password form him
04:56.14[STC]_creeperzUUGH!! Ignorant bastard!
04:56.19[STC]_creeperzExcuse my language
04:56.32Patlabor221how is he ignorant for registering it?
04:56.41[STC]_creeperzIt was my nick!
04:56.42Patlabor221that's what I did for my nicks
04:56.49[STC]_creeperzStole them?
04:56.52Patlabor221seems it's his too
04:56.56Patlabor221no I registerd them
04:57.13[STC]_creeperzYou should have told me about this a LONG time ago
04:57.22Patlabor221I don't know what you don't know
04:57.23[STC]_creeperzSo, he can kick me off whenever?
04:57.34Patlabor221on tht nick yeah
04:57.47[STC]_creeperzHow bout I take out the underscore?
04:57.56Patlabor221that would be a difrent name so yeah
04:58.02[STC]_creeperzand put "*The Real* after it?
04:58.07[STC]_creeperz"*
04:58.15Patlabor221well that may be to long, and is rather lame
04:58.17[STC]_creeperzI hate him!!
04:58.22[STC]_creeperzEven using my clan name!
04:58.39Patlabor221I dono man
04:58.41[STC]_creeperz~lart *FAKE* [STC]_creeperz
04:58.49[STC]_creeperzHaha!!
04:59.09[STC]_creeperzAlmost revenge right there!
04:59.10[STC]_creeperzI can't live without my nick!
04:59.22[STC]_creeperzMaybe Tim can help!!
04:59.27[STC]_creeperzAh ha!
04:59.32Patlabor221it's a server thing not a channel thing
04:59.40[STC]_creeperzOh yea
04:59.41Patlabor221try talking to him next time you see him
04:59.42[STC]_creeperzDang
04:59.45[STC]_creeperzOk
04:59.46TimRiker~msg nickserv info [STC]_creeperz
04:59.47Patlabor221to a /msg to him
05:00.00Patlabor221then you won't clutter the channel
05:00.02[STC]_creeperz~msg nickserv
05:00.09[STC]_creeperzOh
05:00.10Patlabor221ibot won't do it
05:00.14parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Patlabor221
05:00.17TimRikerso whois ~4372e6a6@203.194.240.139 ?
05:00.24[STC]_creeperzTIM!!
05:00.29Patlabor221or you could leave a memo
05:00.33[STC]_creeperzSome malicious 15 yo took my name!
05:01.01Patlabor221now don't whine
05:01.02[STC]_creeperzHe took it and registered it
05:01.05Patlabor221noone likes a whiner
05:01.14[STC]_creeperzI'm just stating the fact
05:01.15Patlabor221look your gonna use the MIRC thing from now on right?
05:01.17[STC]_creeperzNot whining
05:01.23[STC]_creeperzYes
05:01.26TimRiker/msg lilo or one o the other ops. word to the wise: tread lightly op's will just as soon kline you as listen to you whine.
05:01.39Patlabor221then we can know who you are and who he is
05:01.41[STC]_creeperzWhat?
05:01.51[STC]_creeperzMe? Or him?
05:01.55Patlabor221bacsicly don't pis them off
05:02.00[STC]_creeperzHim?
05:02.04[STC]_creeperzor op?
05:02.10Patlabor221well if he uses the cgi one we can know who you are
05:02.14Patlabor221yes the ops
05:02.22Patlabor221they have lots to do.
05:02.27[STC]_creeperzOk
05:02.37[STC]_creeperzI hardly ever whine
05:02.39Patlabor221tell you what, if I see that name on with a cgi client I'll talk to him
05:02.46[STC]_creeperzOk
05:02.48Patlabor221cus I'm sure he's asked me stuff and I thought it was you
05:02.53Patlabor221and that kinda pisses me off
05:02.58[STC]_creeperzLike what?
05:03.08Patlabor221lets see
05:03.16Patlabor221well you mentioned the map thing
05:03.18[STC]_creeperzI've had this nick for over 2 1/2 years!
05:03.22[STC]_creeperzLonger than that
05:03.30[STC]_creeperzI did
05:03.34Patlabor221I recall you asking about how to start a server
05:03.39[STC]_creeperzThe zoom things?
05:03.40Patlabor221how to set all the options
05:03.42[STC]_creeperzYes
05:03.44Patlabor221yes the zoom things
05:03.47[STC]_creeperzNo
05:03.49[STC]_creeperzOptions?
05:03.50Patlabor221how to get code up
05:03.59Patlabor221yeah server options for stuff like flags
05:04.03[STC]_creeperz...I never asked you about options buddy
05:04.07[STC]_creeperzI did?
05:04.10[STC]_creeperzWow
05:04.11Patlabor221then it may have been him
05:04.13Patlabor221I think so
05:04.15[STC]_creeperzOk
05:04.22Patlabor221but then I don't recall all of them
05:04.26[STC]_creeperzOh
05:04.31[STC]_creeperzbrb
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05:05.31TimRiker[STC]_creeperz: lilo says that nick expire policy is 60 days unused.
05:05.51Patlabor221that's good to know
05:05.58[STC]_creeperzBack
05:06.00TimRikerI'd suggest you wait it out and see if you can get it to over 60 days unseen. then tell lilo or another op.
05:06.12[STC]_creeperzOk
05:06.20[STC]_creeperzOk
05:06.26[STC]_creeperzThat would be good
05:06.35TimRikerthey don't auto-expire them at present, so if need to get nickserv to show that it's been over 60 days since the other guy used it.
05:06.41Patlabor221somone pobalby saw your name on the bb
05:06.45Patlabor221and is messing with you
05:06.50Patlabor221seen it happen in EQ
05:06.54[STC]_creeperzOh
05:06.55[STC]_creeperzOk
05:07.03[STC]_creeperzHow do I register this nick?
05:07.11[STC]_creeperzI think he HAS
05:07.15[STC]_creeperzHe kicked me
05:07.17Patlabor221he had
05:07.20Patlabor221has yes
05:07.21[STC]_creeperzdang
05:07.24Patlabor221if he ghosted you
05:07.32[STC]_creeperzghosted me?
05:07.33Patlabor221you can wiat for 60 days and see
05:07.36Patlabor221yes
05:07.36[STC]_creeperzOk
05:07.41Patlabor221kicked
05:07.44[STC]_creeperzOh
05:08.37Patlabor221wow, don't let them get to you man, or they have just won
05:09.21[STC]_creeperzWhat kind of a 15 yr old would be stupid (refers to himself for asking such a stupid question)
05:09.37Patlabor221a large number of them just are
05:09.48TimRiker[STC]_creeperz: lilo is clearing the registration for it. I was chatting in another window.
05:09.56[STC]-creeperzOh
05:10.00Patlabor221ohh that's nice of them
05:10.02[STC]-creeperzSo I can get my nick back?
05:10.12Patlabor221yeah just change and register then
05:10.33Patlabor221are lilo and misato guys or girls
05:10.33[STC]_creeperzShould I register creeperz too?
05:10.50Patlabor221they have allways been nice admins
05:10.55TimRiker[STC]_creeperz: you should register any that you plan to use and that are available.
05:10.59Patlabor221took care of CEll's atempoted flot
05:11.03[STC]_creeperzOk
05:11.09Patlabor221but note if you don't use them for 60 days it will expire
05:11.09[STC]_creeperzcreeperz would be one
05:11.16[STC]_creeperzits all good
05:11.23[STC]_creeperzThnx Tim
05:11.53[STC]_creeperzwhat do I type to register nicks?
05:12.26[STC]_creeperz~news
05:12.31[STC]_creeperzCool
05:12.36Patlabor221type /msg nickserv register your passowrkd
05:12.50[STC]_creeperz~post news "BZFlag wins award at HappyPenguin.com!"
05:12.59Patlabor221that will register your current nick
05:12.59[STC]_creeperz~news
05:13.03[STC]_creeperzOk
05:13.30[STC]_creeperzSo type "/msg nickserv register 'password'"?
05:13.41[STC]_creeperz[password]*
05:13.48Patlabor221yeah I think that's how it goes
05:14.29Patlabor221then when you connect you do a /msg nickserv identify "password"
05:14.30[STC]_creeperzSo how would I kick the punk when he gets on?
05:14.33Patlabor221so it knows its you
05:14.35Patlabor221yes
05:14.36[STC]_creeperzOh ok
05:14.40Patlabor221if he was on your name
05:14.43Patlabor221when you loged in
05:14.44[STC]_creeperzOk
05:14.48Patlabor221you can only kick that one name
05:14.50[STC]_creeperzGotchyu
05:14.54[STC]_creeperzI know
05:15.04[STC]_creeperzNeed to be an op to kick others
05:15.41[STC]_creeperzHaha
05:15.42Patlabor221hunh?
05:15.46Patlabor221that would be name hoging
05:15.50[STC]_creeperzI know
05:15.52Patlabor221then you would be as bad as that person is
05:15.53[STC]_creeperzI wouldn't
05:15.57TimRiker[STC]_creeperz: you identify with nickserv by password and then "ghost" the old nick connection.
05:16.14Patlabor221don't you ghost first?
05:16.25Patlabor221since you can't get your nick with the other connection is up?
05:16.41[STC]_creeperzHow to ghost?
05:16.51Patlabor221I connect, am forced to my secondary /msg nickserv ghost mynick mypass
05:16.54Patlabor221then /nick
05:16.58Patlabor221then identify
05:17.03[STC]_creeperzOh ok
05:17.10Patlabor221for like when I leave a connect open at work or something
05:17.13TimRikeryou are right. /nickserv ghost [STC]_creeperz <password>
05:17.14[STC]_creeperzAll simple
05:17.21[STC]_creeperzOk
05:17.49[STC]_creeperzAlright
05:17.56[STC]_creeperzHe might be back soon
05:18.10[STC]_creeperzWhen can I change it?
05:18.19[STC]_creeperzAnd who is he?!!!
05:18.29TimRikerhuh?
05:18.29[STC]_creeperzHe says he's been here for 3 months
05:18.37[STC]_creeperzI have never seen him
05:18.45Patlabor221change what?
05:18.54Patlabor221and they are probably yankin your chain
05:18.59TimRiker[STC]_creeperz: who says?
05:19.00[STC]_creeperzWho?
05:19.10[STC]_creeperzThat punk [STC]_creeperz
05:19.26TimRikeryou are [STC]_creeperz. who is he?
05:19.29Patlabor221you would not see them if you had the same name, have you ever connected and had a difrent name
05:19.38[STC]_creeperzMe?
05:19.47Patlabor221yeah
05:19.53[STC]_creeperzonce
05:19.58[STC]_creeperzBut for 2 min
05:19.58Patlabor221cus if you connected as you, and he connected as you, it wouldn't work
05:20.11Patlabor221since you can't have 2 people on at the same time with the same name
05:20.17Patlabor221was your nick on then?
05:20.19[STC]_creeperzWhen I was trying Opera... but the text was all blurry
05:20.20TimRiker[STC]_creeperz: do you have a clue? are you chatting with someone? what's his nick?
05:20.31[STC]_creeperzI don't know
05:20.33[STC]_creeperzNo
05:20.45TimRiker<[STC]_creeperz> He says he's been here for 3 months
05:20.46[STC]_creeperz[STC]_creeperz
05:20.56TimRikerhow/where did you hear that?
05:21.10Patlabor221looks like he ghosted you with NoSoup4U
05:21.13[STC]_creeperzHe says he has... But I've been playing BZFlag for at LEAST 2 years
05:21.18[STC]_creeperzHim
05:21.20Patlabor221he said it in the channel, been reading logs
05:21.39[STC]_creeperzYea
05:21.59[STC]_creeperz...!!! I saw him the other day on Noodleman's map!! I think!
05:22.06[STC]_creeperzMAN, He sucked!
05:22.13[STC]_creeperzBUT I THINK I SAW HIM!
05:22.13TimRikerPatlabor221: ah.
05:22.24TimRikeralright, calm down.
05:22.30Patlabor221well you have the nick now, so it's all god
05:22.32Patlabor221good
05:22.39[STC]_creeperzI have it
05:22.40Patlabor221and a real IRC client so you should be fine
05:22.48[STC]_creeperzBut he might ghost me again soon
05:22.48Patlabor221just keep the fish slaps down :)
05:22.53[STC]_creeperzOh
05:23.07[STC]_creeperz;-) Will try
05:23.08Patlabor221he can't you have the nick
05:23.17[STC]_creeperzI meant to Fish Slap ibot that last time
05:23.18Patlabor221he would need your password
05:23.21Patlabor221your'r good now
05:23.31[STC]_creeperzPassword?
05:23.35[STC]_creeperzWhat password?
05:23.41Patlabor221the password you used to register
05:23.42[STC]_creeperzOh my registered name password?
05:23.46Patlabor221yes
05:23.48[STC]_creeperzRegister now?
05:23.52Patlabor221yes
05:24.07Patlabor221tim said lilo cleared it
05:24.13Patlabor221so you could register it
05:24.16[STC]_creeperzOk
05:24.50[STC]_creeperzAnd now its registered? By typing /nickserv register <password>?
05:24.56TimRikeryes
05:25.01Patlabor221yes
05:25.17Patlabor221that is why we explained it all to you.
05:25.21[STC]_creeperz...Is there supposed to be a reply?
05:25.35Patlabor221checl your main window
05:25.52[STC]_creeperzthe freenode window?
05:26.00Patlabor221yes
05:26.10[STC]_creeperzIt has the same messages as b4
05:26.16Patlabor221what does that say?
05:26.28[STC]_creeperzHow its all disconnected
05:26.35[STC]_creeperzI guess thats what it means
05:26.53[STC]_creeperzYet I'm connected...
05:26.55[STC]_creeperzOdd
05:26.59Patlabor221if it was disconected you could not talk
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06:06.51[STC]_creeperzNoodlebot, here's a botsnack
06:07.08[STC]_creeperzHere's a botsnack, Noodlebot
06:07.19[STC]_creeperz~lart Noodlebot
06:07.59[STC]_creeperz~nickometer [STC]_creeperz
06:07.59'[STC]_creeperz' is 48.000% lame, [stc]_creeperz
06:08.05[STC]_creeperzGRR!!
06:08.06[STC]_creeperzlol
06:08.14[STC]_creeperz~nickometer t
06:08.14't' is 0.000% lame, [stc]_creeperz
06:08.27[STC]_creeperz~nickometer Patlabor221
06:08.27'Patlabor221' is 34.000% lame, [stc]_creeperz
06:08.49[STC]_creeperz#1 Idiot! lol
06:08.52[STC]_creeperzI g2g
06:08.55[STC]_creeperzBye
06:09.12Patlabor221bye
06:10.08[STC]_creeperzOk I need some sleep
06:10.10[STC]_creeperzJeff
06:10.18[STC]_creeperzYou wanna do that map with me?
06:10.23[STC]_creeperzwww.mormon.org
06:10.31[STC]_creeperzReally cool building
06:10.40Patlabor221hunh?
06:11.19[STC]_creeperzThat building
06:11.35Patlabor221that would be hard to map in bz
06:11.37[STC]_creeperzI need to go... I'll be on tomorrow
06:11.41Patlabor221and not very fun to play
06:11.42[STC]_creeperzI know
06:11.49[STC]_creeperzThats why I want to do it
06:11.52[STC]_creeperz;)
06:11.53[STC]_creeperzBye
06:12.06Patlabor221then have fun
06:12.06[STC]_creeperzSee if Tim wants to join in
06:12.12[STC]_creeperzok?
06:18.41TimRikerjoin what?
06:25.59Patlabor221I have no clue
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07:29.11MrApathyCreamcrs lurks!
07:29.18captain_protonhe does?
07:29.19captain_protonwhere?
07:29.42MrApathyCreamsourceforge bugs
07:29.46MrApathyCreamjust posted
07:29.49captain_protonhmm
07:30.39MrApathyCreamhttps://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=103248&aid=694304&group_id=3248
07:32.08MrApathyCreama nice addition would be to allow multiple bases per team. A silly impl prevents this at present.
07:33.05captain_protonuhhuh
07:40.50MrApathyCream<TimRiker> lets just make it more loose and ship it.
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08:36.48MayhemAny awake people here?
08:37.47MayhemThe question on my mind is:  should taking your own flag into enemy territory be treated as a capture?
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17:11.53calicotea you here
17:12.23calicohi akira
17:12.29calicoand all
17:12.51Chestalhi
17:13.21calicoready for that match yet chestal
17:13.23calico:)
17:13.45calico2v1 would be alright with us :)
17:13.45Chestalwhich match?
17:13.53Chestalah, Ihaven't play for a week
17:13.56calicous against you
17:13.57Chestalneed lots of training :-)
17:14.01calicon:)
17:14.07calicoit didnt look like you did
17:14.17calicolike you do need training that is
17:14.36calicothat still dont make sense
17:14.40calico:)
17:14.45Chestalanyway, have to do some work first
17:15.02Chestalmaybe some of my teammates show up later, they need training,too
17:27.10ak|raindeed Chestal
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18:03.29Chestalhi Tim
18:05.43Chestalthe compose bug is fixed, yes?
18:05.50Chestalso we can close it
18:10.25TimRikerwell. it's better anyway. sure close it.
18:10.52TimRikerI'm not quite happy with the menu spacing and the location of the yellow *, but we can look into that later.
18:12.22Chestallooks ok to me
18:13.48ChestalI have quite a few 'addClient: no candidate player slot found' in my logs
18:14.04Chestalno more speeding kicks lately
18:14.18Chestaland no CLOSE_WAIT here so far
18:15.14dougheckawow, slashdot is down
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18:19.26[STC]_creeperzhi
18:20.38[STC]_creeperzAnyone here?
18:20.59TimRikerChestal: excellent!
18:21.09[STC]_creeperzOh, well... I need to get on www.games.swirve.com/utopia/login.htm anyhoo
18:21.13[STC]_creeperzTim!
18:21.35[STC]_creeperzWant to build the Salt Lake City, Utah Temple as a map with me??
18:21.48[STC]_creeperz~kill himself
18:21.49ACTION slits himself's throat
18:21.58[STC]_creeperz~kill his
18:21.59ACTION slits his's throat
18:22.05[STC]_creeperzTim?
18:24.17ChestalTim: know of any open issue for g2?
18:25.05[STC]_creeperzbrb
18:26.34Patlabor221didn't someone fix that flag drop under base issue too?
18:27.05[STC]_creeperzI always do that ;)
18:27.12[STC]_creeperzespecially on Hix
18:27.23[STC]_creeperzJump on Pyramid, jump and drop flag
18:27.32Patlabor221generaly not a nice thing to do, since the bug was there
18:27.45[STC]_creeperzI also like to get under people while I have SR and jump, too
18:27.59[STC]_creeperzThat's a bug? I thought it was a concept of BZFlag
18:28.11[STC]_creeperzThat's awesome
18:28.27Patlabor221if you droped a flag or died under a base it would say the fag was in a enim teritory
18:28.50[STC]_creeperzfag? lol
18:28.52[STC]_creeperzflag*
18:29.05ChestalI think it has been fixed yesterday or so
18:29.12[STC]_creeperzCool
18:29.20Patlabor221yes
18:29.38Patlabor221what was decided on the hide flags issue?
18:31.03[STC]_creeperzWhy would anyone want to hide flags??
18:31.20[STC]_creeperzbrb
18:31.33Chestalhide? not aware of such an issue
18:31.50Patlabor221tims enhancement
18:31.58Patlabor221the hide flags in view and radar
18:32.08larslPatlabor221: Yep, it's fixed.
18:32.16[STC]_creeperzback
18:32.19Patlabor221so it's hide in radar only?
18:32.32Patlabor221or are they allowed to be hiden in view too?
18:32.47[STC]_creeperzShould have 2 buttons to hide radar and hide in window
18:33.11Patlabor221the thing is I don't think you should be able to hide them in view at all
18:33.12Chestalah, I guess veryone except Tim wants to get rid of the 3D toggle
18:33.22Chestalwe'll just have toconvince him :-)
18:33.27Patlabor221yes
18:33.30larsl3D toggle?
18:33.45Patlabor221turning off flags in the main 3d view
18:33.55larslHum.
18:34.09larslCan't really see the meaning of that.
18:34.14Patlabor221I know people who use flags for obfuscation on there maps
18:34.24dougheckahmm?
18:34.25Patlabor221you kow how you drive around and see flags?
18:34.33Patlabor221the white wavy things?
18:34.36[STC]_creeperzOn BZFlag, you should be able to register nicks...kinda like here
18:34.40dougheckahaha
18:34.49Patlabor221creep I am working on that
18:34.56[STC]_creeperzYou are?
18:35.00Patlabor221yes
18:35.13[STC]_creeperzThat's awesome
18:35.22Patlabor221but I have not had chance to work on it
18:35.24[STC]_creeperzBut don't make it all password prompt please
18:35.44Patlabor221it will work almost exactly like nickserv
18:35.53[STC]_creeperzJust if someone else is using your name, get on different and "ghost" them or w/e
18:35.55larslPatlabor221: A public key system would be nice. =)
18:36.06[STC]_creeperzHmmm
18:36.06Patlabor221it's not going to be that complex
18:36.10Patlabor221this is just a simple start
18:36.11[STC]_creeperzOh
18:36.27Patlabor221later it can be enhanced to do cryto keys
18:36.30[STC]_creeperzWell, just a simple mod that won't let that other punk on my name
18:36.32[STC]_creeperz;)
18:36.36Patlabor221creeper ghosting needs a passowrd
18:36.52[STC]_creeperzI know
18:37.03larslLike NickServ sounds good. No need to do anything unless someone else is using your name.
18:37.04Patlabor221and it's tied into server permisions too
18:37.20Patlabor221it's a combo of nickserv and chanserv type services
18:37.26[STC]_creeperzOh
18:37.32larslOn the other hand, that means that people still could log on using my name and do bad things when I'm not playing.
18:37.35[STC]_creeperzWhat does chanserv do anyhoo?
18:37.37Patlabor221when you identify you get what ever access rights you have for the server
18:37.41Patlabor221kick ban, what ever
18:38.03Patlabor221so the server adnim can give people just the access tehy need, not the entire server admin password
18:38.23[STC]_creeperzNo, maybe a client (or server) command that tells if they have Identified themselves with their password
18:38.28Patlabor221yes, larsl, that is something that would need a client change to prevent.
18:38.53[STC]_creeperzLike type "USERLOG <user>"?
18:38.57Patlabor221I am adding a server option to auto kick after x seconds of not identifying a registerd nick
18:39.00[STC]_creeperzReply...
18:39.11[STC]_creeperz<user> is not logged in
18:39.14larslPatlabor221: Or maybe the server wouldn't let the player "come alive" before he had identified himself?
18:39.16Patlabor221but it will be an option
18:39.20larslPatlabor221: As an option.
18:39.27Patlabor221again that would require a client change
18:39.32larslPatlabor221: OK.
18:39.33Patlabor221this is all server side stuff
18:39.35[STC]_creeperzMy idea?
18:39.44Patlabor221will work with e6 -> G2
18:39.56Patlabor221what the hell is suerlog?
18:40.00Patlabor221userlog?
18:40.12Patlabor221you can get who is on a server by looking at the player list
18:40.22[STC]_creeperzMaybe a client command that could be implemented?
18:40.29Patlabor221that does what?
18:40.47[STC]_creeperzTells if a user has logged in to their registered nick
18:41.00Patlabor221what "
18:41.05Patlabor221what "USER"?
18:41.08Patlabor221all I know is nicks
18:41.11[STC]_creeperzOk...
18:41.30[STC]_creeperzLets say there was a bad person on MY nick... cheating for example.
18:41.31Patlabor221you want me to track all the times you log in?
18:42.03[STC]_creeperzTo find out if that person was "THE REAL" person, type "USERLOG" or something to see if they have logged into their account
18:42.26larslPatlabor221: Maybe the server could require all unifentified clients to have a name starting with ~, or somwthing like that?
18:42.31Patlabor221well that's a horible name for a command
18:42.38Patlabor221I would make it /info
18:42.51Patlabor221larsl what would that do?
18:42.54[STC]_creeperzmaybe /infocheck <user>
18:43.01doughecka<PROTECTED>
18:43.07Patlabor221why not  info?
18:43.09[STC]_creeperznahhh
18:43.25Patlabor221whois would give tehre iP and host
18:43.28dougheckaah
18:43.28dougheckaok
18:43.29[STC]_creeperzmaybe "/usercheck"?
18:43.31Patlabor221and I will not give that to anyone
18:43.36Patlabor221or just /info
18:43.41stibnitePatlabor221: any knowledge of a GM suicide bug in g1 cvs?
18:43.41dougheckabut /whois in IRC says if they are registered or not
18:43.50Patlabor221I don't know of one
18:43.56Patlabor221so could /info
18:44.01Patlabor221and it's shorter
18:44.05larslPatlabor221: Nobody would be able to use a name without identifying... but then you would have to identify before the server decided if you could log in or not, so that won't work. =P
18:44.13stibnitehrm.  I kill my self a LOT with g1, but didn't in previous versions
18:44.18stibnitelike 1 time in 5
18:44.32dougheckawith GM?
18:44.35dougheckahow do you do that?
18:44.37stibniteyep
18:44.40stibnitei don't know!
18:44.43stibniteno teleporters
18:44.44dougheckalol
18:44.45[STC]_creeperzYes
18:44.46stibnitenothing like that
18:44.46Patlabor221larsl, that would be hard, since you would not be able to register your name then, if you had to have a ~ then how would you get in to register your real name
18:44.50stibnitei just fire and die
18:45.09[STC]_creeperzhmmm
18:45.16Patlabor221there is no way in game to change your callsign
18:45.20larslPatlabor221: Yeah, I thought of that too... it would require additions to the protocol.
18:45.28Patlabor221and lots of other stuff
18:45.32[STC]_creeperzOh, there is a new cheat... I saw it on knightmare that we ALL should look out for
18:45.37larslPatlabor221: Which would be unnecessary, since tha point was to be able to do it with old clients.
18:45.42[STC]_creeperzA GM that circles a person
18:45.53stibniteoh interesting
18:45.55larslCircles?
18:46.05dougheckaCOOL!
18:46.14[STC]_creeperzGoes around a person even when you're dead
18:46.17[STC]_creeperzPretty neat
18:46.22dougheckaoh
18:46.26dougheckaI know how
18:46.30Patlabor221and nighhtmare says his cheat server is a "Good" idea
18:46.38dougheckachange the turning radius of the GM
18:46.49dougheckato a really tight turn, then it can circle
18:46.49doughecka:0
18:46.59[STC]_creeperzAnd another that a guy implemented a new varible into a string somewhere, he added 8 new positions for his SW
18:47.13doughecka?
18:47.28[STC]_creeperzSo he gets close, yet still far away, fires, it moves in a circlure pattern too
18:47.43dougheckaah
18:47.53Patlabor221munchkin land
18:47.56[STC]_creeperzForward, Right a little and back, ~,~,~, until its at it's starting position
18:48.08[STC]_creeperzcircular*
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18:48.35[STC]_creeperzHi Cell
18:48.39Cellhi
18:49.59Cellall pairs shortest path problem, what is that exactly?
18:50.20larslA graph problem?
18:50.26Cellyes
18:50.32[STC]_creeperzWhat's up?
18:50.46Patlabor221use a*
18:50.55larslSounds like you should find the shortest path between all pairs of nodes in the graph.
18:51.21Cellall pairs of nodes, what does that mean?
18:51.43[STC]_creeperz~news
18:51.49larslIf you have nodes A, B, C, all pairs are (A,B), (A,C), (B,C).
18:51.59ChestalCell: Floyd?
18:52.14Chestalgives you distance (path) from every node to every other node
18:52.18[STC]_creeperz~postnews BZFlag wins award from Happy Penguin! "Best free multiplayer game!"
18:52.21CellFloyd-Warshall
18:52.23[STC]_creeperz~news
18:52.26[STC]_creeperzUUGH!
18:52.30ChestalO(n^3) I think
18:52.34Cellyep
18:53.20[STC]_creeperz~news add BZFlag wins award from Happy Penguin! "Best free multiplayer game!"
18:53.33[STC]_creeperz~news
18:53.45[STC]_creeperz~news add BZFlag wins award!
18:53.58ak|rawe win?
18:53.58ak|ra:)
18:54.03Patlabor221I don't think you have access to post man
18:54.08[STC]_creeperz~news
18:54.21doughecka[13:54] <ibot> Someone already said that 4 seconds ago
18:54.22doughecka:)
18:54.24[STC]_creeperzI do
18:54.32[STC]_creeperz~news
18:55.01[STC]_creeperz~nickometer doughecka
18:55.01'doughecka' is 0.000% lame, [stc]_creeperz
18:55.10[STC]_creeperz~nickometer ibot
18:55.10'ibot' is 0.000% lame, [stc]_creeperz
18:55.12[STC]_creeperzLol
18:55.19[STC]_creeperzSuch a lovable creature
18:55.29doughecka~nickometer [STC]_creeperz
18:55.29'[STC]_creeperz' is 48.000% lame, doughecka
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18:56.07[STC]_creeperz~nickometer doughecka
18:56.07'doughecka' is 0.000% lame, [stc]_creeperz
18:56.10[STC]_creeperzUUGH!!
18:56.16[STC]_creeperz~nickometer ibot
18:56.16'ibot' is 0.000% lame, [stc]_creeperz
18:56.27[STC]_creeperz~nickometer Patlabor221
18:56.27'Patlabor221' is 34.000% lame, [stc]_creeperz
18:56.35[STC]_creeperzAnd a #1 idiot?
18:56.43[STC]_creeperzlol
18:57.08Patlabor221actualy I was #2
18:57.36[STC]_creeperzThe first time I tried it on you, it said you were #1 idiot
18:58.01Patlabor221tim usurped the title
18:58.18Patlabor221it just does that to who ever has the longest line that ibot dosn't unserstand
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18:58.32[TeA|TrEE]hello again
18:58.42[dmp]hi tea
18:58.43[TeA|TrEE]quite full
18:58.46[TeA|TrEE]hey dmp
18:58.58[TeA|TrEE]nice game
18:59.04[TeA|TrEE]hard to get flag
19:02.27[dmp]as i said, i wasnt really satisfieid with my work
19:02.42[dmp]rembo did good (was impressed).. he havnt been playing much.
19:02.47[dmp]i was too slow to get started.
19:03.05[dmp]i got shot like 7 times before my first kill.
19:12.57larsl~nickometer larsl
19:12.57'larsl' is 0.000% lame, larsl
19:13.15doughecka~literal nickometer
19:13.57[STC]_creeperzWhat is literal nickometer??
19:14.13[STC]_creeperz~literal nickometer larsl
19:14.33Patlabor221it's a function it dosn't have a literal
19:14.50Patlabor221it's not an infobyte
19:14.55[STC]_creeperzOk
19:17.14larslWill the next minor version be based on the 1.8 code in CVS?
19:17.21Patlabor221ni
19:17.29larslWill it even be called 1.8?
19:17.34Patlabor221g2
19:17.37Patlabor2211.7g2
19:17.42Patlabor221then proalby 1.9 or 2.0
19:17.49larslOK.
19:17.54Patlabor221the 1.8 codebase is dead as a dev line
19:18.00Patlabor221parts may be pulled from it
19:18.07Patlabor221but it was too feture incomplete to use
19:18.13[STC]_creeperzWhen will the next version "public" be released?
19:18.23Patlabor221soon
19:18.24Patlabor221g2
19:18.41larslI heard Tim say he 'felt like release time' yesterday. =)
19:18.44[STC]_creeperzNext week?
19:18.52[STC]_creeperzAwesome...
19:19.06Patlabor221I think it shall posibly be this week
19:19.31Patlabor221if we can con tim into taking out the 3s flag hide :)
19:19.44[STC]_creeperz3s flag hide?
19:19.56Patlabor221yes hading the flags in the 3d view
19:20.09[STC]_creeperzoh, 3D flag hide
19:20.25[STC]_creeperzI don't really think it would be necissary
19:20.38larslSome flags are in the 3D view but not on radar, is that a known bug?
19:20.38Patlabor221I don't think it should be in there
19:20.51[STC]_creeperzMe neither...
19:21.06Patlabor221Tim added the ability to hide flags in radar and 3d view
19:21.09Patlabor221to reduce cluter
19:21.15[STC]_creeperzMaybe a bad flag that hides flags from view.... So when you drop flag, you won't know whats up
19:21.27Patlabor221but a lot of us feel that you can't just let the tank show what ever world view it wants
19:21.33Patlabor221radar is fine, it's not "real"
19:21.48[STC]_creeperzWhat?
19:22.00[STC]_creeperzExplain your previous message please
19:22.06Patlabor221what?
19:22.17Patlabor221that you should not be able to hide the flags in the 3d view only radar
19:22.24[STC]_creeperz"but a lot of us feel that you can't just let the tank show what ever world view it wants"... What does that mean?
19:22.29Patlabor221since the 3d view represnets the "real" world
19:22.42[STC]_creeperzOk
19:22.45Patlabor221you can't let the client change how the world looks
19:22.52[STC]_creeperzOHHH!!!!!
19:22.52Patlabor221or I say you shouldn't
19:23.16Patlabor221the next step is making all those buildings see thru. cus well they get in the way ya know.
19:23.49[STC]_creeperzYea, you shoot at a building you can't see in a rico world ;-)
19:23.55[STC]_creeperz....chaotic
19:24.37[STC]_creeperzAnyone know jzaun's email?? Please let me know it
19:24.42larslAt what height are the shots flying?
19:24.54Patlabor2211.565
19:25.01creeperzoopz
19:25.08creeperz1.57
19:25.18larslThanks.
19:25.23creeperzlol
19:25.48Patlabor221it's between 1.56 and 1.57 so it's 1.565
19:26.22[STC]_creeperzNOTE TO ALL: these will be the only two nicks I will come in on, if anyone else comes in with the nick "[STC]" or such...
19:26.28ak|raPatlabor221: ::)
19:26.45[STC]_creeperzTell them to give you the password to let you know it isn't me...
19:27.22[STC]_creeperzI will tell you the password "I am the real maccoy" if its really me
19:27.29[STC]_creeperz~spell maccoy
19:27.31possible spellings for maccoy: McCoy mac coy mac-coy Macao Marco Mackay McCoys Mac mac Macy Mack Marc mack Macon macro Marcy Sacco macho
19:27.41larslNo A; I think.
19:27.47[STC]_creeperzOk
19:27.50[STC]_creeperzmccoy*
19:27.58[STC]_creeperz~dict McCoy
19:28.32Patlabor221you know this is all loged and he could go back and see all you said. and just get the passoword.
19:28.50[STC]_larslI am the real McCoy
19:28.53[STC]_creeperzLol
19:29.13[STC]_creeperzI mean that other guy that had my name
19:29.43Patlabor221still he could go thru all the convo logs and see what you said, and get "the real mcoy"
19:30.05[STC]_creeperzI know
19:30.14[STC]_creeperzThats why I just told you the REAL password
19:30.15larslDoes anyone use the Linux BZEdit?
19:30.25Patlabor221dood don't wory about it crepper
19:30.33Patlabor221I think some people doo
19:30.35larslIt crashes every time I try to add a box.
19:30.44Patlabor221I think that's a feature
19:30.44[STC]_creeperzI don't
19:30.45larslI've been using the Windows version in Wine instead. =P
19:30.53Patlabor221it works in wine?
19:30.56[STC]_creeperzWine?
19:31.00[STC]_creeperzWhat's wine?
19:31.01larslPatlabor221: With a few GUI bugs.
19:31.12[STC]_creeperzbesides fermented grapes
19:31.14Patlabor221Wine Is Not an Emulator
19:31.15[STC]_creeperzbrb phone
19:31.20larsl[STC]_creeperz: A Linux program that can run Win32 aps.
19:31.22Patlabor221what bugs?
19:31.26[STC]_creeperzOh
19:31.29[STC]_creeperzI thought so
19:32.12larslPatlabor221: Some widgets are drawn strangely and sometimes I have to switch workspaces to get the input fields to grab the keyboard focus.
19:32.14Patlabor221last I heard it wouldn't even launch
19:32.24larslPatlabor221: I had to get a couple of DLLs.
19:32.32Patlabor221what ones?
19:32.38larslLet me see...
19:32.50[STC]_creeperzWindowsSux.DLL?
19:32.55[STC]_creeperzj/m
19:32.58[STC]_creeperzj/k*
19:33.07[STC]_creeperzI'm a WINDOWS ME user
19:33.09Patlabor221creeper don't comment unless you know what you are talking about.l
19:33.17ak|raPatlabor221: :)
19:33.23[STC]_creeperz...Waste of money, I say.
19:33.29Patlabor221or we will start calling you doug
19:33.38[STC]_creeperzLOL!1
19:33.44[STC]_creeperzHAH!
19:33.49[STC]_creeperzCrap...
19:33.55Patlabor221yup just like doug
19:34.08larslMFC42, MSVCIRT, MSVCP60
19:34.11[STC]_creeperzIs that why there was a bot that always told doug to shut up?
19:34.18larslBut for some reason it won't start now.
19:34.18Patlabor221ok those make sense
19:34.24Patlabor221that's the mfc and vc runtimes
19:34.28larslVisual C++ stuff?
19:34.32Patlabor221yeah
19:34.34[STC]_creeperzMaybe it stopped working
19:34.47[STC]_creeperzOr maybe its afraid to come out?
19:34.49Patlabor221cus it's not here creeper, use your loaf.
19:35.07[STC]_creeperzIt WAS here
19:35.27Patlabor221yes but it's not now is it?
19:35.36[STC]_creeperz"Is that why there was a bot that always told doug to shut up?"  Look at the "there was" part
19:35.57Patlabor221there are many reasons to tell doug to shut up
19:36.03[STC]_creeperzHeh
19:36.08[STC]_creeperzOWWWW!
19:36.12Patlabor221mostly anoying munchkin ness
19:36.24[STC]_creeperzI slammed my finger in desk drawer!
19:36.38Patlabor221well that was realy stupid wasn't it?
19:36.46[STC]_creeperzUUGH, I sounded Russian
19:37.01ak|raPatlabor221: did you already test gf fx?
19:37.18Patlabor221gf?
19:37.26Patlabor221ohh no we don't have one
19:37.26[STC]_creeperzgirl friend
19:37.27larslAh, I was using an old release of Wine. It's working with CVS Wine and those DLLs.
19:37.31Patlabor221just been reading bout them
19:37.36Patlabor221no creep
19:37.41[STC]_creeperzhaha
19:37.43Patlabor221they are shiping now tho
19:37.55[STC]_creeperzMail order girlfriends?
19:38.05Patlabor221larsl works fine? or works with those bugs?
19:38.11Patlabor221no creeper
19:38.17ak|raPatlabor221: ok
19:38.18[STC]_creeperzOh
19:38.34larslPatlabor221: With the bugs.
19:38.40larslPatlabor221: But it's usable.
19:38.43Patlabor221tho in reading about it, I don't see what it would realy get us, since we don't use shaders
19:41.27Cellwho will be watching DSDS today?
19:41.37[STC]_creeperzDSDS?
19:41.42[STC]_creeperzSurviver?
19:41.48[STC]_creeperzlol
19:41.52ChestalI thought it was over
19:42.04CellDSDS = Deutschland Sucht Den Superstar
19:42.16[STC]_creeperzGerman?
19:42.16Celllol
19:42.20Cellyep
19:42.29[STC]_creeperzYou live in Germany?
19:42.34Cellright
19:42.39Patlabor221cell and chestal do I think
19:42.42[STC]_creeperzDas Buch
19:42.49Patlabor221so does tea IIRC
19:43.01ChestalI never watched it
19:43.02[STC]_creeperzI took a little German in 7th grade
19:43.04larslCell: Don't tell me... it's some stupid "documentary" about people competing to be in a pop group, or getting a record contract.
19:43.04Patlabor221and frank
19:43.10[STC]_creeperz...I forgot it all though
19:43.13Celli watched it every saturday
19:43.21Patlabor221ohh god you have an idol contest too?
19:43.27Celllarsl:exactly
19:43.32dougheckawho doesnt?
19:43.40Patlabor221your mama
19:43.45dougheckaah
19:43.48Cellido, thats how it was called in us and england
19:43.54Cellidol
19:44.04[STC]_creeperzHow do you set "Away" statuses?
19:44.19larsl<PROTECTED>
19:44.20Patlabor221in the menu
19:44.25[TeA|TrEE]Cell: hallo du schweinshaxn
19:44.27Patlabor221or that
19:44.45Cell[TeA|TrEE]:hallo
19:44.48*** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient80-218-117-18.hispeed.ch)
19:44.56[TeA|TrEE]Cell: du bist ja 1860 fan oder?
19:45.01Cellnö
19:45.02[TeA|TrEE]hey Coop
19:45.11[TeA|TrEE]Cell: FCB
19:45.15Cellich mag kein fussball
19:45.20[TeA|TrEE]ich eigendlich au ned
19:45.21[TeA|TrEE]:)
19:45.30[TeA|TrEE]war aber shcon 2 mal im stadion
19:45.31Cellnur tennis, und das nur wenn ich selber spiele
19:45.38[STC]_creeperzAw well... better than Japanese!
19:45.41[TeA|TrEE]tennis ist man fit
19:45.55Cellich war einmal im Stadion, das war 1860 gegen ? , war cool
19:46.09[TeA|TrEE]ist schon was besonders nen stadion
19:46.14[TeA|TrEE]aufregend
19:46.27Cellcool e, stimmung wie die alle mitgehen
19:46.34[TeA|TrEE]:o)
19:46.38Celldas steckt an, hätte ich nicht gedacht
19:46.38ak|racool, wie die masse so gelenkt wird :)
19:46.40[TeA|TrEE]1860 ist aber gay
19:46.41ak|rawie im alten rom
19:46.45ak|rabrot und spiele, geil :)
19:46.48[TeA|TrEE]lol akita
19:46.48Cellja
19:46.50[STC]_creeperzSo uugh, where's my away message?
19:46.51[TeA|TrEE]akira
19:46.52[TeA|TrEE]ooops
19:47.07Celllauter deutsche hier, hä?
19:47.12[STC]_creeperzJa
19:47.26[TeA|TrEE]in rom , waren blos die spieler nakend rumgelaufen oder , das war glaub ich in griechenland
19:47.32[TeA|TrEE]k.a.
19:47.38[STC]_creeperzhahaha!
19:47.39[TeA|TrEE]früher die olypiade
19:47.44[STC]_creeperznah
19:47.47[TeA|TrEE]in griechenland
19:47.56[TeA|TrEE]durften keine frauen nei :)
19:48.11[TeA|TrEE]weil die ganzen männer nakend rumgetänzelt sind
19:48.16Cellhaha
19:48.22[TeA|TrEE]:)
19:48.30[STC]_creeperzlol
19:50.30larslI placed a box with height and width 0.01 and length 200 at z position 1.56 in a map, but it doesn't stop bullets.
19:50.42*** join/#bzflag Rembo (~remco@seesink.kabel.utwente.nl)
19:50.44ak|ralarsl: jump
19:50.49ak|raavoid the bullets :)
19:53.07Patlabor221then raise it abit
19:53.18Patlabor221it's gotta be above 1.565
19:53.23Patlabor221to stop them
19:53.31Celli have to learn that all: http://wwwmayr.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/skripten/ead_ws9899_html/tableofcontents.html
19:54.29Cell:(
19:55.55larslCool, an almost invisible drive-through wall that stops bullets. =)
19:56.10Patlabor221aka bugwall
19:56.34Patlabor221don't besuprised if that bug gets fixed and your map no longer works
19:56.47larslCell: I took a similar course last year. =)
19:57.48larslPatlabor221: In what way is it a bug?
19:57.58larslBecause I can drive through it?
19:58.03Patlabor221yes
19:58.37Patlabor221because the colision detection for a tank is only on it's botom, it will be made to be a 3d volume
19:58.49Patlabor221then you can't use that trick
19:59.00Patlabor221just like when they fixed pyramids above Z0
19:59.10larslMakes sense.
20:03.16larslBut I liked the drive-through pyramids. =)
20:03.40Patlabor221so did lots of people
20:03.48Patlabor221that's why the fix was pulled
20:04.00Patlabor221that and old clients would still go thru
20:04.05Chestaluh, -timemanual has a bug
20:04.17Patlabor221but it will be fixed in the next protocol busting version
20:04.43Patlabor221then I need to get tim to aprove a "drive thru" map object flag in the map
20:05.12Patlabor221and a shoot thru one too
20:07.13larslIs there a maximum size for boxes?
20:07.51Patlabor221well if it covers the entire world, then there are problems
20:07.57dougheckalol
20:08.08larslReally?
20:08.16Patlabor221yes
20:08.17dougheckatanks cant spawn
20:08.20larslI tried that once, several "floors" connected by transports.
20:08.21Patlabor221noowhere to spawn
20:08.24larslIt didn't work.
20:08.28Patlabor221yeah
20:08.48Patlabor221the spawner I basilcy 2d I think
20:09.12larslSo if I made a small tank-sized hole in the boxes, it would work? =)
20:09.19dougheckayea
20:09.27dougheckaunless theres more than 1 tank
20:09.29doughecka:)
20:09.43larslThey aren't allowed to spawn inside each other?
20:09.48dougheckaMAC I think made a map with only 5 spawn points
20:09.48Patlabor221they would all spawn there
20:10.01Cellwhen do we get ping times < 30ms
20:10.34Celli want to play tennis over the net
20:12.54larslHumm...
20:13.38[STC]_creeperzRaquetBall, here ;)
20:38.04[STC]_creeperzWhats the command that says you're back?
20:38.28Patlabor221proalbalby another /away <msg>
20:38.32[STC]_creeperzOh
20:39.07[STC]_creeperzI don't know... I think its just away
20:39.14CellUsing  AWAY  with  no parameters marks you as no longer being away
20:39.19*** join/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E9740A.dip.t-dialin.net)
20:39.35[STC]_creeperzHow long was I gone?
20:39.46Patlabor221I dono
20:40.11Patlabor221you shoud just use the away and back features of your client
20:40.47[STC]_creeperzOh
20:40.51[STC]_creeperzWhere are they?
20:41.11Patlabor221in the menus
20:41.14[TeA|TrEE]we just lost a match :o(
20:41.20[STC]_creeperzunder COMMANDS?
20:41.23[STC]_creeperzMatch?
20:41.26[STC]_creeperzCTF?
20:41.27[TeA|TrEE]bzflag match
20:41.29[TeA|TrEE]yes
20:41.31[STC]_creeperzOh
20:41.35[STC]_creeperzagainst who?
20:41.36[TeA|TrEE]we are 2end place now again .O(((((((((((
20:41.38[TeA|TrEE]HoW
20:41.47[TeA|TrEE]after 10 min LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG problems on our side
20:41.52[TeA|TrEE]abour a 300 ms game
20:41.54[STC]_creeperzOh
20:41.57[TeA|TrEE]sometime 500
20:41.58[TeA|TrEE]:(
20:42.01[TeA|TrEE]but never mind
20:42.01[STC]_creeperzWhat's your clan?
20:42.04[TeA|TrEE]TLZ
20:42.05[STC]_creeperzOwww
20:42.08[STC]_creeperzCool
20:42.09[TeA|TrEE]lucky day for HoW
20:42.13[STC]_creeperzibot, TLZ?
20:42.13no idea, [STC]_creeperz
20:42.21[STC]_creeperzibot, STC?
20:42.22i guess stc is spine tinglaz clan, name property of [STC] creeperz
20:42.31[STC]_creeperzibot, creeperz?
20:42.32[creeperz] a little man who stalks in shadows and crawls on the ground...sorta like a tank.
20:42.35[TeA|TrEE]http://www.zeebrothers.de
20:42.42[TeA|TrEE]ibot, tea
20:42.43[TeA|TrEE]: I don't know, could you explain it?
20:42.45[STC]_creeperzYou're a Zee Brother?!
20:42.48[TeA|TrEE]ibot, [TeA|TrEE]
20:42.49no idea, [TeA|TrEE]
20:42.55[TeA|TrEE]ibot , [TeA]
20:42.55[tea] is, like, a crazy penguin too
20:42.59[STC]_creeperzyou need to tell ibot to be so
20:43.01[TeA|TrEE]huh
20:43.04[TeA|TrEE]thats old
20:43.09[STC]_creeperzWhat's old?
20:43.16[TeA|TrEE][21:41] <ibot> [tea] is, like, a crazy penguin too
20:43.34[STC]_creeperzibot, [TEA]?
20:43.34[[tea]] a crazy penguin too
20:43.34*** join/#bzflag SpacemanSpiff (~40ff651f@203.194.240.139)
20:43.41[STC]_creeperzSpiff!
20:43.46SpacemanSpiffHey all.
20:43.50SpacemanSpiffI need a little help.
20:43.51[STC]_creeperzbrb, noodles are done
20:43.52[TeA|TrEE]Hey ho Spiffi
20:44.22SpacemanSpiffWhat is the line that you add to bzflag.bzc to get your e-mail address in the parenthesis in the game?
20:44.35[TeA|TrEE]under callsign
20:44.44[TeA|TrEE]put in email tab tab tab TEAMNAME
20:44.54SpacemanSpiffAhhhh.
20:45.28[TeA|TrEE]:-)
20:45.58SpacemanSpiffAhh yes.. it worked! Thanks. :)
20:46.34[STC]_creeperzhuh?
20:46.53[STC]_creeperzHow??
20:46.56[STC]_creeperzWin32?
20:47.00SpacemanSpiffYes
20:47.14[STC]_creeperzin notepad or something?
20:47.18SpacemanSpiffUnder "callsign" (on the next line) type "email"
20:47.20SpacemanSpiffYes
20:47.25[STC]_creeperzOk...brb
20:47.30*** join/#bzflag c3po1 (c3po1@ppp-217-133-245-155.dialup.tiscali.it)
20:47.33SpacemanSpiffAhhhh... I'm out. C-ya guys. :)
20:48.10[TeA|TrEE]stc?
20:48.16[STC]_creeperzibot, stc?
20:48.16rumour has it, stc is spine tinglaz clan, name property of [STC] creeperz
20:48.26[TeA|TrEE]how can u do that
20:48.34[STC]_creeperzbzflag.bzc? Where is that?
20:48.34[TeA|TrEE]ibot TLZ
20:48.35[TeA|TrEE]: i don't know
20:48.43[TeA|TrEE]creep: are u on win?
20:48.52[STC]_creeperztype /msg ibot Tea is <whatever>
20:48.56[STC]_creeperzYes
20:49.07[TeA|TrEE]should be in Our Document file
20:49.20[TeA|TrEE]then under callsign do new "email" TEAMNAME
20:49.26[STC]_creeperzGot it
20:50.14*** join/#bzflag c3po (c3po@ppp-217-133-245-155.dialup.tiscali.it)
20:50.25[TeA|TrEE]<PROTECTED>
20:50.29[TeA|TrEE]hmm
20:50.30c3po# Appears as ANNA
20:50.36[TeA|TrEE]<PROTECTED>
20:50.37[TeA|TrEE]aaaaaaaah
20:50.42[TeA|TrEE]flood
20:51.03[TeA|TrEE]ibot tlz
20:51.04[TeA|TrEE]: bugger all, i dunno
20:51.08[STC]_creeperz~tlz?
20:51.11[TeA|TrEE]You are moron #1
20:51.15[TeA|TrEE]from ibot
20:51.18[TeA|TrEE]isnt that nice
20:51.19[STC]_creeperzummm, no space in front
20:51.30[TeA|TrEE]what?
20:51.41*** part/#bzflag c3po (c3po@ppp-217-133-245-155.dialup.tiscali.it)
20:51.49[STC]_creeperzYou are putting a space in front of message
20:51.52[STC]_creeperzNo space
20:51.54[TeA|TrEE]oh
20:51.57[STC]_creeperzlol
20:52.12[STC]_creeperz~suicide
20:52.20[TeA|TrEE]ibot tlz
20:52.21[TeA|TrEE]: bugger all, i dunno
20:52.23[TeA|TrEE]grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
20:52.24[STC]_creeperzHmmm... I guess it won't work
20:52.38[TeA|TrEE]<ibot> You are a moron #2
20:53.05[STC]_creeperzDude, type "/msg ibot TLZ is The Legendary Zeebrothers
20:53.11[STC]_creeperzI'll do it for yu
20:53.39[STC]_creeperzhmmm
20:53.44[TeA|TrEE]how can i edit
20:53.47[STC]_creeperzibot, forget tlz
20:53.47i forgot tlz, [STC]_creeperz
20:53.51[TeA|TrEE]thx
20:54.12[STC]_creeperzibot, tlz is The Legendary Zee Brothers
20:54.13okay, [STC]_creeperz
20:54.18[STC]_creeperzibot, tlz?
20:54.19somebody said tlz was The Legendary Zee Brothers
20:54.31[TeA|TrEE]I wish you would RTFM.
20:54.44[TeA|TrEE]ibot tlz
20:54.45methinks tlz is The Legendary Zee Brothers
20:54.45[STC]_creeperzMe? or ibot?
20:54.51[TeA|TrEE]haeh?
20:55.19[TeA|TrEE]"The Legendary ZeeBrothers" - http://www.zeebrothers.de
20:55.21[TeA|TrEE]do that
20:55.33[STC]_creeperzOk
20:55.38[STC]_creeperzibot, forget tlz
20:55.38i forgot tlz, [STC]_creeperz
20:55.58[TeA|TrEE]wait
20:56.00[TeA|TrEE]<PROTECTED>
20:56.02[TeA|TrEE]this
20:56.03[STC]_creeperzibot, tlz is The Legendary Zeebrothers - http://www.zeebrothers.de
20:56.03[STC]_creeperz: okay
20:56.16[TeA|TrEE]ibot, tlz  [TLZ] - "The Legendary ZeeBrothers" - http://www.zeebrothers.de - [TLZ]  
20:56.17[TeA|TrEE]: You are moron #3
20:56.22[TeA|TrEE]ibot forget tlzt
20:56.22i didn't have anything called 'tlzt', [TeA|TrEE]
20:56.24[STC]_creeperzLol
20:56.29[TeA|TrEE]ibot forget tlz
20:56.29i forgot tlz, [TeA|TrEE]
20:56.37[TeA|TrEE]ibot, tlz is  [TLZ] - "The Legendary ZeeBrothers" - http://www.zeebrothers.de - [TLZ]  
20:56.38[TeA|TrEE]: okay
20:56.40[TeA|TrEE]ha
20:56.43[TeA|TrEE]ibot tlz
20:56.43tlz is, like, [TLZ] - "The Legendary ZeeBrothers" - http://www.zeebrothers.de - [TLZ]
20:56.45[STC]_creeperzGood job
20:56.49[TeA|TrEE]jippi
20:56.49[TeA|TrEE]:)
20:56.51[STC]_creeperzibot tlz?
20:56.52from memory, tlz is [TLZ] - "The Legendary ZeeBrothers" - http://www.zeebrothers.de - [TLZ]
20:56.57[STC]_creeperzibot, creeperz
20:56.58i heard creeperz is a little man who stalks in shadows and crawls on the ground...sorta like a tank.
20:58.03[STC]_creeperzibot, [TeA|TrEE]?
20:58.04rumour has it, [tea|tree] is the cow who cried moo
20:58.15[TeA|TrEE]lol
20:58.18[STC]_creeperzheh
20:58.28[TeA|TrEE]what the hell
20:58.35[TeA|TrEE]ibot [TeA|TrEE]
20:58.39rumour has it, [tea|tree] is the cow who cried moo
20:58.42[TeA|TrEE]cool
20:58.46[TeA|TrEE]i like that
20:58.48[TeA|TrEE]i didnt do that
20:58.55[STC]_creeperzI did :)
20:59.40[STC]_creeperzYou want it gone?
21:00.06[STC]_creeperzOk, how do I get my email in the ()?
21:00.11[TeA|TrEE]no
21:00.13[STC]_creeperzI have file open
21:00.15[TeA|TrEE]with ouz ()
21:00.16[STC]_creeperzOk
21:00.17[TeA|TrEE]out
21:00.26[TeA|TrEE]just email "tab" tab tab TEAMNAME
21:00.42[STC]_creeperzUnder [STC] creeperz?
21:01.50[STC]_creeperzHello?
21:02.24[STC]_creeperzbrb...
21:07.08Cell~x de en Gödelisierung
21:07.29Cell~x de en Goedelisierung
21:07.44larslWhat's that?
21:10.56Cellthat is a function that gives every word over an alphabet an unique natural number, so the number of words is enumerable
21:11.36[TeA|TrEE]ha?
21:11.41[TeA|TrEE]Xreeperz?
21:11.45[TeA|TrEE]Creeperz?
21:12.07larslAh.
21:12.07[TeA|TrEE]welcome back Patlabor221 :)
21:12.41Patlabor221umm thanks
21:12.49larslCell: So if the alphabet is 0123456789, the identity function is a G...?
21:16.28[STC]_creeperzIts good
21:17.00[STC]_creeperz~s is 4
21:17.01...but s is already something else...
21:17.03[STC]_creeperz?
21:17.10[STC]_creeperz~p is 9
21:17.11okay, [STC]_creeperz
21:17.18[STC]_creeperzibot p?
21:17.19well, p is 9
21:17.26[STC]_creeperzibot s?
21:17.27test
21:17.32[STC]_creeperzcool
21:17.40[STC]_creeperzibot, c?
21:17.41c is for cookie
21:17.44[STC]_creeperzbrb
21:17.48[STC]_creeperzI g2g
21:27.47*** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (creeperz@64-33-241-92.sdnet.net)
21:27.55[STC]_creeperzback
21:30.21[TeA|TrEE]huh
21:30.36[STC]_creeperzDid it work?
21:30.40[TeA|TrEE]were
21:30.48[STC]_creeperzDid you hear sound?
21:30.58[TeA|TrEE]have no sound here sorry
21:31.03[STC]_creeperzOh
21:31.04[TeA|TrEE]on monday
21:31.05[TeA|TrEE];)
21:31.08[STC]_creeperzAre your speakers on?
21:31.26[STC]_creeperzno speakers?
21:32.52Celllarsl: if the alphabet A={a,b,c} and V^* = {union V^i over all i = 1...+infinity} is the set of all possible words w that consist only of a,b,c then if you let a->3 and b->5 and c->7 then G(w)=3^x*5^y*7^z where x is the count of the charater a in the word w and y of b and z the count ofc in w
21:34.14CellV^* ={union A^i , i = 1...+infinity}
21:34.18[STC]_creeperzbrb
21:34.24[STC]_creeperzI need to help me dad work
21:34.27[STC]_creeperzbye
21:34.29[STC]_creeperzg2g
21:34.31*** part/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (creeperz@64-33-241-92.sdnet.net)
21:36.55larslCell: Was that a Goedelisierung?
21:37.43larslCell: G(w) isn't unique for all words.
21:38.15larslCell: G(abb) = 3^1*5^2, G(bab) = 3^1*5^2.
21:39.01[TeA|TrEE]night
21:39.04*** part/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E9740A.dip.t-dialin.net)
22:09.45Celllarsl: oh , i explanaid it wrong: seqcode(<n1....nk>)= p1^n1*....pk^nk , where ni = is a natural number and pi is a primenuber p1 = 2, p2 = 3, p3 = 5 ..., there is always a bijective function that maps the alphabet A to {1,2,3,....} . So in this sampl g(abb) = 2^1*3^2*5^2, when a->1, b->2, c->3
22:11.16Celltherefore g(bab) = 2^2*3^1*5^2
22:11.44larslAh.
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22:12.34Celland g is unigue due to the fact that you can represent a natral number >=2 as multipplesa of prime numbers
22:13.10larslYeah.
22:14.01Cellsince each prog is a string, there exists functions that cannot be calculated by a prog
22:14.17Cellbecuase the num of progs is enumerable
22:14.50Cellwhere the  num of fuctions that map natural numbers to natural numbers is not
22:14.54larslBut the set of all functions isn't.
22:15.37Cellright
22:15.38larslNice proof of incomputable functions.
22:15.45Cellyes
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22:25.16Patlabor221mmmmm boooriitto :)
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22:46.14[STC]_creeperz*YAWN*
22:46.24[STC]_creeperzMy eyes itch
22:46.44[STC]_creeperzI need to wash up plus I wanna see if I did something right...
22:52.35*** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (creeperz@66.231.13.157)
22:53.23[STC]_creeperzHmmm, I got it to auto-connect to the irc.freenode.net server but not BZFlag... And I need to get mIRC to start on internet connection
22:54.41Patlabor221you are learning
22:56.58[STC]_creeperzYes
22:57.00[STC]_creeperzKinda
22:57.05[STC]_creeperzKinda hard
22:57.13[STC]_creeperzVery hard in my eyes
22:57.19[STC]_creeperzHot ash in my eyes
22:57.29[STC]_creeperzI need some Visene
22:57.39Patlabor221don't read much?
22:57.48[STC]_creeperzI read all the time
22:58.02[STC]_creeperzGood book: Shade's Children by Garth Nix
22:58.03Patlabor221then why hard on the eyes?
22:58.27[STC]_creeperzTo find out HOW to do that is hard to me is what it means
22:58.43Cell[STC]_creeperz:i have problems with my eys too if  look to long into a monitor, take a break
22:58.49[STC]_creeperzI didn't say "Very hard ON my eyes" ;)
22:59.16[STC]_creeperzI just got done working with my dad in his shop...filled with diesel smoke
22:59.23[STC]_creeperzAnd ash from fire
22:59.36[STC]_creeperzWe have a wood and a gas stove in the shop
22:59.45[STC]_creeperzVery smokey, the fire was
22:59.49Cellah
23:00.04[STC]_creeperzIt went half out and I couldn't get it to start again because of the thick smoke
23:00.37[STC]_creeperzAnd I smell like diesel and fire smoke and its mixing with my colougne and its making my head spin
23:00.50[STC]_creeperz...And willing to vomit on my monitor
23:00.58[STC]_creeperzAny questions?
23:01.06[STC]_creeperz:)
23:01.09[STC]_creeperz:(
23:01.15[STC]_creeperzMY EYES BURN!
23:01.42[STC]_creeperzAWW!! Gasoline!!
23:02.00[STC]_creeperzoopz forgot to authorize myself...
23:02.34[STC]_creeperzHe recognizes me!
23:02.52[STC]_creeperzWho has a BZFlag mouse pad??
23:04.07Patlabor221I have a shirt
23:04.24[STC]_creeperzThat it?
23:04.28[STC]_creeperzWhich shirt?
23:04.41Patlabor221don't realy need mousepads
23:04.49Patlabor221my mice are female
23:04.54Patlabor221the white shirt
23:04.55[STC]_creeperzAnd why are they call O'REALLY's?
23:05.02[STC]_creeperzcool
23:05.23[STC]_creeperzlol
23:06.01Patlabor221ohh there is a set of books call o'riley
23:06.05Patlabor221it's a joke
23:06.10[STC]_creeperzOh
23:06.12[STC]_creeperz??
23:06.29[STC]_creeperzO'Really?
23:06.31[STC]_creeperzhaha
23:06.40Patlabor221yes
23:06.48[STC]_creeperzSo, uhh, should I get a cap?
23:06.53Patlabor221they make the "in a nutshell" series of techincal books
23:07.25[STC]_creeperzOk, i gotta eat
23:07.29[STC]_creeperzbrb in a few
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23:21.16[STC]_creeperzOk
23:21.55Patlabor221puking? is that like playing hockey?
23:22.16[STC]_creeperzLil'
23:22.31[STC]_creeperzWhen you get checked in the stomach
23:22.52Patlabor221don't hurt much with the pads
23:23.29[STC]_creeperzw/o pads
23:23.56Patlabor221why wouod you be dumb enough to play with out pads
23:24.27Patlabor221tho I did goaltend with normal pads once, that was "fun"
23:24.27[STC]_creeperzWhen you're stoned
23:26.33[STC]_creeperzAwww, me getting mouse pad finally
23:26.48[STC]_creeperzIs there a client for using a joystick with BZFlag?
23:26.56Patlabor221on linux
23:27.16[STC]_creeperzDarn
23:27.21[STC]_creeperzNeed Windows
23:27.37Patlabor221then no
23:27.41Patlabor221not that I know of
23:27.52Patlabor221man it's been so lon since I used a mouse pad
23:27.55[STC]_creeperzDang
23:27.59Patlabor221I don't thing there are any even here
23:27.59[STC]_creeperzLol
23:28.18[STC]_creeperzI need one because my mouse keeps veering me off into different directions
23:28.30[STC]_creeperzMight be
23:28.40Patlabor221your mouse his hamered by it's balls
23:28.54[STC]_creeperzhmmm?
23:29.19Patlabor221does your mouse have a large ball in it?
23:29.38[STC]_creeperzI would say about 1 inch thick
23:29.51Patlabor221do you clean it?
23:30.09[STC]_creeperzYes
23:30.29Patlabor221still mechanical mice can get screwy
23:30.34Patlabor221my mice have no ball
23:30.52[STC]_creeperzinfra red laser thingy?
23:31.15Patlabor221optical LED yes
23:31.19Patlabor221it's not a laser
23:31.31larslAre there any plans to add new map objects to BZFlag? Like a "prism" object, where the base is a polygon instead of just a square.
23:31.34Patlabor221an just normal red, not infra
23:31.37[STC]_creeperzYour mouse works with an LED?
23:31.39[STC]_creeperza*
23:31.44Patlabor221all the optical ones do
23:32.00[STC]_creeperzThere needs to be a ramp to get on buildings w/o jumping!
23:32.06Patlabor221larsl, I would like to add aribitrary map objects yes
23:32.16Patlabor221creeper that would change a lot of gameplay
23:32.23[STC]_creeperzHow?
23:32.23Patlabor221since it would tilt the tank
23:32.32Patlabor221and move the aim of your shot
23:32.33[STC]_creeperzYeah...
23:32.46[STC]_creeperzBut it would be more realistic
23:33.12Patlabor221none of bz stuff is realistic
23:33.25[STC]_creeperzHow bout a flag that turns Pyramids into ramps? lol
23:33.33Patlabor221why a flag?
23:33.39Patlabor221it would have the same issues
23:34.12[STC]_creeperzNo idea
23:34.45[STC]_creeperzmabye to keep GM from a ramp?
23:35.11Patlabor221I think tim feels that bz is fiarly ballaned right now, I don't think he wants' to go changing things unless it adds a lOT and sill makes the game simple
23:35.30[STC]_creeperzYea
23:35.54[STC]_creeperzMy friend said that BZFlag sucks because of its "gay" graphics
23:35.57Patlabor221the rules for a feature should not just be a list of special cases
23:36.02[STC]_creeperzI told him it was addictive
23:36.03Patlabor221it does have crap grphics
23:36.17[STC]_creeperzI know! Thats what I love about BZFlag!
23:36.27[STC]_creeperzNo one really cares how much the game sucks!
23:36.35[STC]_creeperzWell, it don't suck
23:37.03captain_protongames don't have to have killer graphics to not suck
23:37.12[STC]_creeperzI know
23:37.26[STC]_creeperzLook at DAOC!
23:37.54[STC]_creeperztopic*
23:37.57[STC]_creeperztops?
23:38.08[STC]_creeperzMy eyes are REALLY screwed up!
23:38.44Patlabor221actualy the landscape renderer of DAOC is very nice
23:38.55[STC]_creeperzI know, I saw screenies
23:39.00Patlabor221only one in a mmorg that is better is maybe AC2
23:39.14Patlabor221tho it has ground clutter issues
23:39.28[STC]_creeperzAsheron's Call?
23:39.34Patlabor221yeah
23:39.41Patlabor221they have a nice renderer
23:39.55Patlabor221gameplay is rather lame
23:40.00Patlabor221but the world looks good
23:40.05[STC]_creeperzI almost signed up for that
23:40.22[STC]_creeperzUO is rather lame to me
23:40.32Patlabor221UO is lame
23:40.35Patlabor221full pvp
23:40.44[STC]_creeperzplayer vs player?
23:40.47Patlabor221yes
23:41.18[STC]_creeperzwww.runescape.com's graphics suck but the game is awesome!
23:41.24[STC]_creeperzI'm a member
23:41.31[STC]_creeperz$5/month
23:41.39[STC]_creeperzThere are free skills too
23:41.58Patlabor221mud?
23:42.03[STC]_creeperzmud?
23:42.19[STC]_creeperzmud??
23:42.26Patlabor221is it text?
23:42.38[STC]_creeperzwhat? The game?
23:42.39Patlabor221MUD, Multi User Dungon
23:42.54Patlabor221yes
23:42.55[STC]_creeperzPlayer against others
23:43.12[STC]_creeperzwww.runescape.com
23:43.23[STC]_creeperzGet on server 2...its a free server
23:43.26[STC]_creeperzIf you want
23:43.33Patlabor221I am there, but I see no screenshots
23:43.40Patlabor221what kind of game is it?
23:43.43[STC]_creeperzRPG
23:43.47[STC]_creeperzIt's awesome
23:44.01Patlabor221yes but of what type?
23:44.23[STC]_creeperzDo quests, get exp. Get armor and weapons
23:44.51Patlabor221what does it look like?
23:45.02[STC]_creeperzA cartoon kinda
23:45.07[STC]_creeperzIt's all good though
23:45.15Patlabor221done in flash?
23:45.18[STC]_creeperzNo
23:45.21[STC]_creeperzJava
23:45.23Patlabor221ick
23:45.27[STC]_creeperzWhat?
23:45.32[STC]_creeperzFairly fast
23:45.35Patlabor221won't run on this machine
23:45.38[STC]_creeperzReally?
23:45.43Patlabor221nope
23:45.45[STC]_creeperzTry
23:45.48[STC]_creeperz(??)
23:45.49Patlabor221I just did
23:45.53[STC]_creeperzReally?
23:46.02Patlabor221no I'm lying to you
23:46.03[STC]_creeperzWhat's wrong?
23:46.04Patlabor221yes realy
23:46.19Patlabor221dosn't look like they support non MS OSs
23:46.30[STC]_creeperzI think they do
23:46.59Patlabor221then it dosn't like galleon
23:47.07[STC]_creeperzgalleon??
23:47.15Patlabor221it's a KDE browser
23:47.35[STC]_creeperzhttp://www.runescape.com/client.cgi&world=2&plugin=0&rand=9235597
23:47.36[STC]_creeperzOh
23:47.39[STC]_creeperzTry IE
23:47.49[STC]_creeperzor Opera
23:47.53Patlabor221umm IE is only on MS OSs
23:47.56[STC]_creeperzOr even Navigator
23:48.01[STC]_creeperzOh yea
23:48.02Patlabor221opera blows
23:48.09[STC]_creeperzIts ok...
23:48.19[STC]_creeperzI like the Look&Feel
23:48.26Patlabor221no it blows
23:48.38Patlabor221look and feel can change from any browser
23:48.43Patlabor221it needs to actualy work
23:48.44[STC]_creeperzIts about the closest I'm going to a Unix looking software
23:49.28Patlabor221nope no go
23:49.33Patlabor221not even in mozilla
23:49.53larslPatlabor221: Is Galeon a KDE browser? I thought they used GNOME and Gecko.
23:50.07Patlabor221I thought it was
23:50.11Patlabor221but I may be wring
23:50.22Patlabor221I like it tho
23:50.29Patlabor221just uses mozilla as a back end tho
23:51.21larslYes, Gecko is the Mozilla renderer.
23:52.07Patlabor221I like it, it's simple and just works
23:53.01[STC]_creeperzBut not with Java?
23:53.13Patlabor221I have java, they are doing somethin else
23:53.14larslMozilla works with Java.
23:53.20Patlabor221it's looking for some other plugin
23:53.38[STC]_creeperzOh, you can tell www.runescape.com what applet to use
23:53.48Patlabor221I tryed all of them
23:53.53[STC]_creeperzReally?
23:54.00[STC]_creeperzHow many choices were there?
23:54.03Patlabor221they are proably using something else to do there drawing
23:54.07Patlabor2212 that I could use
23:54.12Patlabor221default and sun
23:54.16[STC]_creeperzOh
23:54.40[STC]_creeperzOpera is more reliable than IE now
23:54.48Patlabor221define relyable?
23:54.54Patlabor221like crashes when I open it?
23:55.01Patlabor221and can't draw pages to save it's life?
23:55.03[STC]_creeperzNot going NR every page I load
23:55.17Patlabor221my ie dosn't do that
23:55.22[STC]_creeperzHmmm
23:55.25[STC]_creeperzlol
23:55.30Patlabor221but then I am using one of the real OSs
23:55.34[STC]_creeperzGot a grudge against IE, have we?
23:55.38Patlabor221not yor toy
23:55.41[STC]_creeperzLinux?
23:55.47larslNo IE for Linux.
23:55.51[STC]_creeperzOh
23:55.53Patlabor221that and the real windows oss
23:55.59[STC]_creeperzOh
23:56.04[STC]_creeperzXP Pro?
23:56.11Patlabor221any of the NT based kernels
23:56.28[STC]_creeperzOh
23:56.39larslThere is IE for Solaris, though. If Microsoft wanted to make a Linux port it shouldn't be too hard.
23:56.53Patlabor221it would not get them anything tho
23:57.04[STC]_creeperzReally
23:57.05Patlabor221there are allready a number of them on lin
23:57.07[STC]_creeperzheh
23:57.36Patlabor221for all I do, IE works perfectly on my windows machines
23:57.51[STC]_creeperzthats good
23:57.52Patlabor221netscape can't handle a lot of table stuff
23:57.54Patlabor221and it's slow
23:57.57[STC]_creeperzI know
23:58.03Patlabor221opera was a joke
23:58.10[STC]_creeperzTakes forever to load a page all too long to start up
23:58.23[STC]_creeperzNavigator I mean

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