| 00:02.59 | *** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-0-49.stny.rr.com) |
| 00:03.16 | calico | chestal: HoW beat BIps 7-3 |
| 00:03.34 | MrApathyCream | Chestal is sl33p1n9 |
| 00:03.45 | calico | :) |
| 00:03.57 | calico | ok ill tell him tomorrow |
| 00:07.38 | [dmp] | Any Ducati:59999 admins here? |
| 00:08.47 | MrApathyCream | Any *nix dudes, is the constant PATH_MAX defined in unix? |
| 00:08.55 | captain_proton | PATH_MAX ? |
| 00:09.04 | MrApathyCream | the mac guy used it in the code |
| 00:09.09 | MrApathyCream | causes problems with win build |
| 00:09.11 | *** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-0-49.stny.rr.com) |
| 00:09.17 | [dmp] | i have tried, calico |
| 00:09.20 | calico | lol |
| 00:09.23 | [dmp] | :) |
| 00:09.27 | calico | thats funny |
| 00:09.50 | calico | is there anyway to restart the server |
| 00:09.59 | calico | from outside |
| 00:17.51 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 00:17.56 | calico | can anyone boot everyone in ducati port 59999 |
| 00:18.15 | calico | we cant get back in for our rematch |
| 00:18.33 | calico | there was an observer who didnt leave or something |
| 00:19.05 | calico | i guess that means no |
| 00:19.07 | calico | n:( |
| 00:19.09 | TimRiker | as an admin do /superkill |
| 00:19.23 | calico | we cant get in the room to do it |
| 00:19.34 | TimRiker | ~ducatictf |
| 00:19.41 | calico | port 59999 |
| 00:19.44 | sussudio | ~bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 59999 |
| 00:19.46 | MrApathyCream | can you get in as observer? |
| 00:19.51 | calico | nhmmm |
| 00:19.56 | calico | let me try again |
| 00:20.01 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:59999 |
| 00:20.15 | calico | nope dont work still |
| 00:20.26 | TimRiker | hmm. that should get fixed. |
| 00:20.36 | sussudio | game is full or over? |
| 00:20.51 | calico | yeah |
| 00:20.57 | calico | someone didnt leave |
| 00:21.02 | calico | so we cant get back in |
| 00:21.11 | TimRiker | yeah, last game is over and the server waits till everyone leaves. |
| 00:21.17 | calico | yeah |
| 00:21.24 | calico | no way to do anything eh |
| 00:21.45 | TimRiker | kill -HUP if someone has shell access. |
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| 00:22.22 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
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| 00:23.36 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 00:23.58 | calico | thanks anyway tim |
| 00:24.15 | calico | i guess we decided to try again tomorrow |
| 00:24.18 | [dmp] | too bad about that match |
| 00:24.24 | calico | yeah |
| 00:24.50 | [dmp] | I feel like kicking butt :) |
| 00:24.59 | [dmp] | not doing work :) |
| 00:25.03 | calico | thank god you got there or we were in trouble |
| 00:25.17 | [dmp] | hehe, saw that :) |
| 00:25.26 | calico | i dont do good when im with rembo 2v2 for some reason |
| 00:25.35 | [dmp] | i need a superman-t-shirt when i play :) |
| 00:25.39 | calico | lol |
| 00:25.43 | [dmp] | I think it's a matter of playing style |
| 00:25.47 | calico | yeah |
| 00:25.49 | calico | me too |
| 00:25.59 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 00:26.02 | calico | anyone else im fine |
| 00:26.04 | [dmp] | I think rembo is at his best when we're 3vs3 |
| 00:26.22 | calico | yep that way he can just flag run |
| 00:26.32 | [dmp] | Yep |
| 00:26.48 | [dmp] | I think I'm gonna write to BigBarrel.. |
| 00:26.58 | [dmp] | Still wondering what happend to him |
| 00:27.19 | calico | rembo said that he forgot to pay his isp bill when he was away |
| 00:27.31 | [dmp] | oh |
| 00:27.31 | calico | and he will be back online in a few days |
| 00:27.50 | [dmp] | Here in denmark, this can be fixed within some hours or just a day. |
| 00:27.51 | [dmp] | :) |
| 00:27.53 | calico | atleast thats the rumor i heard |
| 00:28.00 | [dmp] | I better pay mine too :) |
| 00:28.04 | calico | well hes in germany i think now |
| 00:28.10 | [dmp] | yes he is |
| 00:28.24 | calico | what time is it there |
| 00:28.35 | [dmp] | Now? 01:26 am |
| 00:28.39 | calico | damn go to bed |
| 00:28.48 | calico | earlier you said you sleep at night |
| 00:28.49 | [dmp] | need to do some work first |
| 00:28.58 | [dmp] | :) |
| 00:29.08 | [dmp] | i do that a few times each week :) |
| 00:29.30 | calico | today isnt one of them :) |
| 00:29.52 | [dmp] | actually, i didnt play to play at all. Just saw that both you and rembo wanted me. So I joined just to check up on you. |
| 00:30.10 | calico | ok, ill be back on tomorrow at 1130 your time |
| 00:30.20 | calico | no 1230 |
| 00:30.27 | calico | 630 my time |
| 00:30.39 | [dmp] | ok |
| 00:30.43 | calico | same time as this morning |
| 00:30.48 | calico | afternoon for you |
| 00:31.06 | [dmp] | ok, well, i need to do some stuff, to get some money. So i'll probaly be away at that time. |
| 00:31.06 | calico | what time is it now |
| 00:31.13 | calico | lol |
| 00:31.16 | calico | just kidding |
| 00:31.25 | calico | sure |
| 00:31.31 | calico | see how you are |
| 00:31.35 | calico | cya |
| 00:31.38 | [dmp] | cya |
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| 00:58.03 | MrApathyCream | anyone notice that the latest cvs has clipping problems, especially with shots? |
| 00:58.39 | MrApathyCream | the shots are clipped out by the tank your shooting at |
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| 01:21.15 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: they are not clipped for me. Linux r128 g1 on xmission. |
| 01:21.33 | sussudio | ~clipped |
| 01:23.45 | TimRiker | ibot: clipped is what coupons are when they are no longer in the newspaper. |
| 01:23.45 | | okay, TimRiker |
| 01:25.32 | TimRiker | well, cpu spinnning does not seem to be happening anymore, but the server still leaks filehandles |
| 01:25.53 | TimRiker | accept() from 216.20.13.66:19763 on 35 |
| 01:25.53 | TimRiker | accept() from 216.20.13.66:19870 on 39 |
| 01:25.53 | TimRiker | Player deo [10] has joined from 216.20.13.66:19872 on 39 |
| 01:25.54 | sussudio | naughty |
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| 01:26.01 | TimRiker | 35 just got leaked above. |
| 01:26.36 | sussudio | why |
| 01:28.12 | TimRiker | seems that somone can connect again, and the server reuses an open fd for the initial connect. |
| 01:28.25 | TimRiker | have to look deeper to determine if that is the case. |
| 01:28.36 | TimRiker | have to leave for a while... |
| 01:28.57 | sussudio | hmm k |
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| 01:52.23 | M_A_C | TimRiker: try setting your panel and radar at the smallest and your mouse box at the smallest |
| 01:52.34 | M_A_C | TimRiker: don't know if this is the cause but it is something i'm trying |
| 01:52.45 | M_A_C | also, OO wire frames draw over tanks |
| 01:52.55 | M_A_C | (when they shouldn't |
| 01:54.06 | MrApathyCream | how to you send irc memos? |
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| 01:56.41 | bzdoug__ | MrApathyCream: dunnoi |
| 01:57.27 | bzgirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:57.33 | ElectricElf | Hey bzgirl:) |
| 01:57.41 | bzgirl | hi ElectricElf |
| 01:57.48 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: I got CVS and compiled it, saw the "Enhanced radar" option ... any clue as to what it actually *does*? :) |
| 01:57.56 | bzgirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:57.57 | ElectricElf | (Certainly doesn't look particularily different.) |
| 01:58.27 | MrApathyCream | Here is certainly a problem. mouse box can easily over lap the message area |
| 01:58.33 | MrApathyCream | in a big way |
| 01:58.42 | MrApathyCream | thanks bzgirl |
| 01:58.51 | bzgirl | ElectricElf: under gui options you should have radar size right? |
| 01:59.46 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: Don't actually have anything named "GUI options" ;) |
| 01:59.53 | bzgirl | MAC: in observer mode it would be nice to remove the box altogether |
| 01:59.56 | ElectricElf | There certainly isn't anything with respect to radar size though. |
| 02:00.02 | ElectricElf | bzgirl: This is CVS HEAD, on *nix. |
| 02:00.27 | bzdoug | ElectricElf: what tipped you off? :P |
| 02:00.34 | ElectricElf | bzdoug: Heh, this. :) |
| 02:00.45 | MrApathyCream | ElectricElf: why would you be using cvs HEAD? |
| 02:00.58 | ElectricElf | MrApathyCream: Just wanted to take a peek at what was coming for 1.8. |
| 02:01.03 | ElectricElf | MrApathyCream: Specifically, I heard good things about the radar. |
| 02:01.11 | bzgirl | ElectricElf: this is what proton showed me: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 02:01.21 | bzgirl | get that version |
| 02:01.26 | ElectricElf | Erk. |
| 02:01.35 | sussudio | ~veggiesmite ElectricElf |
| 02:01.36 | | ACTION dumps a pair of cauliflower on ElectricElf |
| 02:01.43 | ElectricElf | sussudio: Bah, blow me :) |
| 02:01.44 | MrApathyCream | ElectricElf: head is dead. all development is on the 1.7 branch |
| 02:01.52 | MrApathyCream | bzgirls line is corret |
| 02:01.53 | ElectricElf | MrApathyCream: I actually specifically asked which branch ... :) |
| 02:01.55 | sussudio | ElectricElf: that's rahul's department |
| 02:02.02 | ElectricElf | MrApathyCream: But, hey, you do you what you can ;) |
| 02:03.03 | ElectricElf | (Not that that's a branch, mind.) |
| 02:06.27 | MrApathyCream | bzgirl: removing targetting box while observer is would be simple and good idea, i'll post a patch soon |
| 02:06.38 | MrApathyCream | up to riker from there |
| 02:06.57 | bzgirl | thanks :) |
| 02:07.03 | sussudio | can you fix the fontsize when radar is max size? it's too small |
| 02:07.08 | ElectricElf | Anybody tried building with GCC 3.2 yet, incidentally? |
| 02:07.25 | sussudio | ElectricElf: is that the default in sid now? |
| 02:07.30 | ElectricElf | sussudio: Yeah. |
| 02:07.36 | ElectricElf | sussudio: I built HEAD without issue. |
| 02:07.43 | sussudio | ElectricElf: yeah it builds with several warnings about obsolete stuff |
| 02:07.50 | ElectricElf | Yeah, I'm noticing this. |
| 02:08.10 | ElectricElf | sussudio: Is Tim sponsored, or is he a DD these days? |
| 02:08.18 | sussudio | er? |
| 02:08.27 | ElectricElf | sussudio: The Debian packages are maintained by him. :) |
| 02:08.43 | sussudio | *shrug* |
| 02:08.46 | ElectricElf | :) |
| 02:09.11 | ElectricElf | Can't build with nvidia-glx's diversions installed. Go figure. |
| 02:09.11 | ElectricElf | nvidia-- |
| 02:09.41 | sussudio | hmm dunno i have an ati radeon with the stuff from dri.sourceforge.net. had to put that on hold about 6 weeks ago. |
| 02:10.06 | ElectricElf | That was a quick build. |
| 02:10.22 | sussudio | if it's too quick too can always do make clean ; make |
| 02:10.53 | ElectricElf | Nice big radar. |
| 02:11.00 | ElectricElf | sussudio: I suspect ccache had something to do with it :) |
| 02:11.25 | sussudio | probably |
| 02:11.35 | ElectricElf | Faster too. |
| 02:11.38 | ElectricElf | (The client itself.) |
| 02:11.47 | sussudio | it wouldnt get the l10n stuff with cvs update though. |
| 02:11.54 | sussudio | had to do it manually |
| 02:11.59 | MrApathyCream | there's a problem win wincvs |
| 02:12.06 | sussudio | wincvs? |
| 02:12.24 | MrApathyCream | oh yeah, your on *nix |
| 02:12.30 | MrApathyCream | i guess there's a problem in general |
| 02:12.35 | MrApathyCream | need to do a co on bzflag |
| 02:12.42 | sussudio | k |
| 02:12.42 | MrApathyCream | (to get l10n |
| 02:17.13 | MrApathyCream | bzgirl: removing targetting boxes in roaming was REALLy easy... :) done |
| 02:17.26 | MrApathyCream | not applied to cvs tho, as riker should approve |
| 02:17.29 | bzgirl | wow! |
| 02:17.31 | MrApathyCream | but patch posted |
| 02:17.38 | bzgirl | thanks, very cool |
| 02:17.51 | sussudio | what is netvigator.com? |
| 02:18.43 | ElectricElf | Oh, beautiful big radar :) |
| 02:19.16 | sussudio | is it some ftp harvesting thing? |
| 02:20.10 | jacques | stupid bankofamerica is still screwed up from the worm |
| 02:20.11 | sussudio | ~google for netvigator |
| 02:20.23 | jacques | i cant sign in to their online banking at all now |
| 02:20.34 | jacques | "document contains no data" |
| 02:34.06 | sussudio | i guess it beats "account contains no cash" |
| 02:40.31 | jacques | lol |
| 02:40.37 | jacques | maybe that's next |
| 02:41.32 | sussudio | all your dollahs are belong to us |
| 03:08.34 | bzdoug | HAHAHHAHA |
| 04:09.42 | Jormungandr | the internet is broken. call back later. |
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| 04:26.27 | Jormungandr | hi jzaun |
| 04:26.53 | jzaun | hey there |
| 04:26.59 | Jormungandr | how's it going? |
| 04:27.09 | jzaun | good, learing a bit of SDL |
| 04:27.17 | Jormungandr | sounds fun. |
| 04:27.26 | jzaun | eh yah |
| 04:27.55 | Jormungandr | I built my new 1RU server today, and I'm putting the OS on it when I get home. |
| 04:28.05 | jzaun | Cool |
| 04:28.21 | Jormungandr | then it goes to new datacenter on 10mb. |
| 04:28.37 | Jormungandr | beats the T1 dragon.org is on now. |
| 04:28.50 | jzaun | very true :-) |
| 04:29.14 | Jormungandr | then once I get dns and websites migrated from dragon.org, I'll move it to new datacenter, too. |
| 04:29.38 | Jormungandr | I just want to avoid sites being down for days while dns catches up. |
| 04:29.58 | jzaun | only evry been 1 hour max for me |
| 04:30.28 | Jormungandr | I've been mostly lucky, but I have a few sites that are fairly high profile. |
| 04:30.42 | Jormungandr | and any glitch gets them twitchy. |
| 04:31.07 | jzaun | well, that can't be good |
| 04:31.12 | Jormungandr | nope. :) |
| 04:31.31 | Jormungandr | but bzflag.dragon.org is gunna rule. ;) |
| 04:32.03 | Jormungandr | the datacenter is on OC12. |
| 04:32.22 | jzaun | when is that goa be online ya think? |
| 04:32.33 | Jormungandr | hopefully within a few days. |
| 04:32.49 | Jormungandr | depends on how the other services come together. |
| 04:33.01 | jzaun | just and OC12? that seems a little slow |
| 04:33.07 | Jormungandr | I am gunna do a qmail install with virtual pop stuff. |
| 04:33.12 | Jormungandr | OC12 slow?! :) |
| 04:33.23 | Jormungandr | it's a remote site with almost nothing in it. |
| 04:33.38 | Jormungandr | connected directly to globalcrossing's backbone. |
| 04:33.42 | jzaun | well, not for 1 server... but for a whole datacenter... sure :-D |
| 04:34.17 | jzaun | how long the datacenter been around? |
| 04:34.21 | Jormungandr | it's at limelight networks. they bought new datacenter, and are only using some of it for their internal stuff, so I am managing the colo product. |
| 04:34.27 | Jormungandr | they just bought it. |
| 04:34.40 | Jormungandr | it's about 6 months old, and company who owned it went bk |
| 04:34.57 | Jormungandr | and sold it (4m dollar datacenter) for pennies on the dollar. |
| 04:35.07 | jzaun | well, the OC12 isn't cheap I'm sure |
| 04:35.28 | Jormungandr | their regular business (content delivery) pays for it. |
| 04:35.45 | Jormungandr | so my product, the colo stuff, just rides on the laurels for now. |
| 04:35.56 | jzaun | content delivery == spam/popups? |
| 04:36.12 | Jormungandr | no... they host musicmatch.. do audio/video delivery. |
| 04:36.35 | jzaun | Cool |
| 04:36.38 | jzaun | any Country? |
| 04:37.02 | Jormungandr | not sure their whole product line... I just deal with the colo. www.limelightnetworks.com |
| 04:37.20 | Jormungandr | they move a lot of traffic. |
| 04:37.40 | jzaun | I'm sure they do |
| 04:37.48 | jzaun | though movies on demand would be nice |
| 04:37.54 | Jormungandr | yes it would. |
| 04:38.18 | jzaun | have a DVD server with ~ 1000 DVDs in it |
| 04:38.23 | Jormungandr | I am chomping at the bit, because I've been waiting to get into the datacenter for a few months now. |
| 04:38.33 | Jormungandr | that would be very awesome. :) |
| 04:39.04 | Jormungandr | I have test machines up, but I am using those to create images for customers. |
| 04:39.05 | jzaun | I've actually used a system that could and does very easily to movie on demand |
| 04:39.19 | jzaun | though the demo selection was about 10 movies |
| 04:39.29 | Jormungandr | local cable companies are supposed to be doing that soon. |
| 04:39.42 | jzaun | eh, thats gonna be pay per view I'm sure |
| 04:39.55 | jzaun | this was sit down, click remote, get movie |
| 04:39.59 | jzaun | all over ATM |
| 04:40.01 | Jormungandr | but we won't see it until it becomes available on the net, so that they are pressured into upgrades. |
| 04:40.02 | Jormungandr | nod. |
| 04:40.33 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 04:40.51 | jzaun | no need to get up to insert a DVD, just click and watch. each room could have there own show going |
| 04:41.02 | Jormungandr | I'm still thinking about bzflag server, and how I want to set it up. |
| 04:41.27 | Jormungandr | not sure if I want to do rotating server, or if I want to do a different map every week, or what. |
| 04:41.27 | jzaun | I'de recommend 1 to 10 good maps |
| 04:41.40 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 04:41.46 | jzaun | more than 10 and people complain they never see their map |
| 04:41.54 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 04:41.56 | Jormungandr | true. |
| 04:42.14 | Jormungandr | maybe even do some map contests. |
| 04:42.18 | sussudio | ls | grep -y spiff | rm $1.map |
| 04:42.19 | jzaun | though as for running a weekly rotating server, it would be easy with a little cron script |
| 04:42.28 | Jormungandr | yeah |
| 04:42.48 | Jormungandr | among other things. |
| 04:42.56 | jzaun | ^^^^ Needed training? :-P |
| 04:43.05 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 04:43.49 | jzaun | I already have my in-home network all planned out. Just need a home and some $$ and I'll build it |
| 04:44.10 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 04:44.19 | jzaun | everything (music tv phone etc.) will all be thew the network |
| 04:44.32 | Jormungandr | we have 5 desktop computers at home, and my laptop. |
| 04:44.38 | Jormungandr | 1 is file server |
| 04:44.58 | Jormungandr | I have a Mac and a PC, and the other 2 in the family have a PC each. |
| 04:45.15 | Jormungandr | it's a nice little network. |
| 04:45.19 | jzaun | my idea for the system is that each person will get a "tag" so the network knows where in the house they are. If they get a phone call the phone in the room they are in rings, etc. |
| 04:45.32 | jzaun | their music choice will follow them around the house |
| 04:45.33 | Jormungandr | that'd be cool. |
| 04:45.41 | Jormungandr | wow, excellent. |
| 04:46.32 | jzaun | I'de like to have a flat panel display in each room, touch screen ov course. one option will be to pull up a map of the house and see where everyone is |
| 04:46.50 | Jormungandr | heh. |
| 04:46.57 | Jormungandr | big brother is watching. :) |
| 04:47.01 | jzaun | if a person has no tag, the network should still know at least what room theya re in |
| 04:47.07 | jzaun | not really |
| 04:47.18 | jzaun | more a user friendly compainion |
| 04:47.21 | Jormungandr | it sounds like fun, though. |
| 04:47.23 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 04:47.31 | jzaun | users could turn off their icon display etc. |
| 04:47.35 | jzaun | yah |
| 04:47.45 | jzaun | spen a month awhile back planning it all out |
| 04:48.14 | Jormungandr | rt tags are getting really cheap. the readers are still a little pricey. |
| 04:48.25 | jzaun | but with everything in the house tappen into the computer system I would definatly need a power backup system |
| 04:48.56 | jzaun | I'de have to custom build. I'de like to knwo where in a room people are etc. |
| 04:49.07 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 04:49.26 | jzaun | though everything would be tagged... wallets, cells, pagers, remotes... never loose anything again |
| 04:49.33 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 04:49.42 | Jormungandr | that would be very cool. |
| 04:50.13 | jzaun | each person in the house would have a ID# and my wallet would be tagged with my ID so only I could see where it was etc. |
| 04:50.27 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 04:50.36 | Jormungandr | now you just need to build it |
| 04:50.49 | jzaun | true |
| 04:51.04 | jzaun | but the hardware/software could be sould I'm sure |
| 04:51.32 | Jormungandr | as long as it was easily configurable. |
| 04:51.51 | jzaun | as much as I don't like "big brother" I wouldn't mind being able to walk up to a booth down-town an lookup where my mother was in another location |
| 04:52.16 | jzaun | it would be nice if all this could be done w/o the fear of big brother stepping in |
| 04:52.24 | Jormungandr | yeah. |
| 04:52.31 | Jormungandr | sort of a permission based tracking. |
| 04:53.02 | Jormungandr | as it is, most cell phones are being built with GPS trackers in them. |
| 04:53.16 | jzaun | yah, family groups, friend groups, etc. |
| 04:53.54 | Jormungandr | then you could pick up a stealth flag, and no one would be able to find you! ;) |
| 04:54.08 | jzaun | no need for computer jacks or any other jack for that matter |
| 04:54.16 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 04:55.07 | jzaun | ne1 want to donate a mill or two to my network fund? |
| 04:55.44 | Jormungandr | have to make the mil or 2 first. |
| 04:59.42 | jzaun | heh festival pronouces BZFlag as slag |
| 04:59.51 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 07:15.03 | MrApathyCream | wow slow nite again |
| 07:21.45 | jzaun | ne1 here know bash scripting? |
| 07:23.55 | TimRiker | targeting box when roaming? |
| 07:24.09 | TimRiker | it should only show up when you are "driving with" a player. |
| 07:24.14 | TimRiker | that is by design. |
| 07:29.26 | MrApathyCream | seems silly, but ok |
| 07:31.53 | MrApathyCream | was bzgirls wish, anyhoo |
| 07:40.38 | TimRiker | which seems silly? |
| 07:41.03 | MrApathyCream | having a target box when you can't shoot, but i don't really care |
| 07:43.54 | TimRiker | it's the direction/altitude info I was after. |
| 07:44.03 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 07:44.21 | TimRiker | I'd also like to add flag display in the upper right. |
| 08:05.39 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker: have you a plan for g2? |
| 08:29.56 | TimRiker | I was hoping to try jzaun's HUD first. I'd like to kill the leaking fh bug. |
| 08:30.28 | TimRiker | It would be nice to add some udp packet merging on the server, but that's not a priority for me in g2 release. |
| 08:30.36 | TimRiker | oh, he left. ;-) |
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| 09:06.11 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
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| 09:14.27 | bomber | moin |
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| 09:56.31 | newbie_21 | hi all |
| 09:56.53 | newbie_21 | blootbot seen TimRiker |
| 09:57.12 | newbie_21 | lol |
| 09:57.22 | newbie_21 | ibot seen TimRiker |
| 09:57.22 | | timriker is currently on #uclibc (9h 34m 21s) #tuxscreen (9h 34m 21s) #zaurus (9h 34m 21s) #openembedded (9h 34m 21s) #elinux (9h 34m 21s) #handhelds.org (9h 34m 21s) #utah (9h 34m 21s) #bzflag (9h 34m 21s) #openzaurus (9h 34m 21s). Has said a total of 24 messages. Is idling for 20m 12s |
| 09:58.25 | newbie_21 | I wanna write SCO sockets for my bluetooth headset to work with my iPAQ how do i go about this |
| 09:58.35 | newbie_21 | ne1?? |
| 10:01.53 | TimRiker | you called? |
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| 10:51.53 | Secret_Hamster | excuse my ignorance. In the borland c/c++ system there where some templates (bags/lists/queues) of object containers. |
| 10:52.32 | Secret_Hamster | Is there any standard equivlent. Otherwise how do you create/store/address dynamically created objects? |
| 10:52.41 | scanline | STL |
| 10:53.28 | Secret_Hamster | STL? slower than light? |
| 10:53.35 | scanline | standard template library |
| 10:53.43 | scanline | look it up, there's a nice manual on it |
| 10:54.06 | Secret_Hamster | ahh, do a google huh, or is there a good site for it (ps I'm talking Linux here) |
| 10:54.19 | scanline | google... |
| 10:54.36 | Secret_Hamster | okey dokey, tar |
| 11:00.27 | newbie_21 | ibot seen TimRiker |
| 11:00.27 | | timriker is currently on #uclibc (10h 37m 26s) #tuxscreen (10h 37m 26s) #zaurus (10h 37m 26s) #openembedded (10h 37m 26s) #elinux (10h 37m 26s) #handhelds.org (10h 37m 26s) #utah (10h 37m 26s) #bzflag (10h 37m 26s) #openzaurus (10h 37m 26s). Has said a total of 33 messages. Is idling for 31m 37s |
| 11:00.47 | newbie_21 | TimRiker: I wanna write SCO sockets for my bluetooth headset to work with my iPAQ how do i go about this |
| 11:01.20 | newbie_21 | do I need to install bluez on my linux box? |
| 11:03.02 | newbie_21 | sorry Tim thoght you were da man for bluez |
| 11:09.49 | Secret_Hamster | eek, started reading about STL. brain hurts already |
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| 11:35.52 | ak|ra | hi |
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| 11:53.37 | bzgirl | hello |
| 11:53.48 | fontenot | so I'm reading the blender manual and 8 of 10 sections are (to be written) |
| 11:58.17 | newbie_21 | bzgirl: do u have ne bluetooth know-how?? |
| 12:00.26 | bzgirl | what is bluetooth? and no i dont :) |
| 12:05.00 | scanline | newbie_21: I think you're in the wrong channel |
| 12:06.42 | newbie_21 | what is bzflag |
| 12:06.57 | newbie_21 | ?? |
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| 13:16.54 | [dmp] | chestal/admins: VIC is a cheater, currently online on ducati:ctf :-\ .. He seems to be unable to be killed |
| 13:17.07 | [dmp] | hmm |
| 13:17.12 | [dmp] | could be firewalls problems too. |
| 13:20.08 | fontenot | trying to use windows makes me want to kill something |
| 13:23.17 | bzgirl | if you do a client query, what would cause a client not to respond? |
| 13:23.29 | bzgirl | he wasnt lagged or nr |
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| 13:24.11 | bzgirl | ~ducatictf |
| 13:27.25 | Chestal | bzgirl: can happen with old versions |
| 13:30.00 | Chestal | bzgirl: I think versions up to e4 had a bug, where the response could be going to hsi team only if the last message he sent was a team message |
| 13:30.14 | bzgirl | ahh |
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| 14:40.19 | Chestal | hi MAC |
| 14:40.41 | Chestal | the target box shows when in free roaming mode for me, but it shouldn't IMHO |
| 14:43.06 | MrApathyCream | yo |
| 14:43.14 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 14:43.28 | MrApathyCream | riker wants it |
| 14:43.44 | MrApathyCream | oh, free mode |
| 14:43.48 | Chestal | but only for 'driving with', no? |
| 14:43.53 | MrApathyCream | yeah, i guess |
| 14:44.08 | Chestal | he introduced it, he should fix it :-) |
| 14:45.58 | MrApathyCream | the mouse box can significantly overlap the message area, is that what you want? |
| 14:48.33 | Chestal | with opacity <1? not sure, if you think that is useless, we can change the formula |
| 14:49.04 | MrApathyCream | yes with opacity < 1 |
| 14:49.07 | Chestal | the problem is that the size calculation is based on full screen resolution |
| 14:49.20 | MrApathyCream | i don't really care, but in case you didn't know |
| 14:49.31 | Chestal | I don't care, either :-) |
| 14:57.30 | MrApathyCream | Hmmm, got a problem with swedish. |
| 14:57.46 | bzdoug | chef? |
| 14:57.56 | MrApathyCream | In HUDuiControl::setLabel |
| 14:58.03 | MrApathyCream | got this |
| 14:58.03 | MrApathyCream | 196: label = bdl->getLocalString(_label); |
| 14:58.03 | MrApathyCream | 0042D262 mov eax,dword ptr [ebp+8] |
| 14:58.03 | MrApathyCream | 0042D265 push eax |
| 14:58.03 | MrApathyCream | 0042D266 lea ecx,[ebp-20h] |
| 14:58.04 | MrApathyCream | 0042D269 push ecx |
| 14:58.06 | MrApathyCream | 0042D26A mov edx,dword ptr [ebp-10h] |
| 14:58.07 | MrApathyCream | 0042D26D mov ecx,dword ptr [edx+4] |
| 14:58.14 | MrApathyCream | edx is garbage |
| 14:58.16 | bzdoug | A)bort, R)etry or S)elf-destruct? |
| 14:58.29 | MrApathyCream | The first push is the _label |
| 14:58.30 | bzdoug | ~x de en Kartoffelkanone |
| 14:58.34 | MrApathyCream | the second push is 'this' |
| 14:58.42 | bzdoug | hah |
| 14:59.03 | MrApathyCream | 0042D270 call Bundle::getLocalString (004acac0) |
| 14:59.10 | MrApathyCream | next line is the call |
| 14:59.33 | Chestal | what's edx? I cannot read x86 assembly |
| 14:59.43 | MrApathyCream | 0xcdcdcdcd |
| 14:59.52 | MrApathyCream | in windoz land unitialized |
| 15:00.25 | Chestal | and what should it be logically? |
| 15:02.06 | MrApathyCream | i can't imagine |
| 15:02.06 | MrApathyCream | i wouldn't think it would push the result label on the stack |
| 15:02.06 | bzdoug | The Iraqis don't stand a chance against our mighty potato cannon, not to mention our highly intelligent french fry cluster bombs! |
| 15:02.06 | MrApathyCream | and it shouldn't because the next line is |
| 15:02.06 | MrApathyCream | 0042D275 mov dword ptr [ebp-24h],eax |
| 15:02.06 | MrApathyCream | eax is the function return |
| 15:02.06 | MrApathyCream | poping it into label._Ptr |
| 15:02.08 | bzdoug | In soviet Russia, POTATOS fire HUMAN GUNS! |
| 15:03.11 | Chestal | hmm, and what happens? does it crash? |
| 15:03.33 | Chestal | vorgestern der war doch nett |
| 15:03.41 | Chestal | oops |
| 15:03.46 | MrApathyCream | label is J: |
| 15:03.52 | MrApathyCream | yes address error crash |
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| 15:06.13 | bzdoug | Fdisk format reinstall, doo dah doo dah, Fdisk format reinstall, oh the doo dah day |
| 15:06.20 | Chestal | MAC: hmm, and you can reproduce it with Swedish? |
| 15:07.16 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 15:07.24 | MrApathyCream | seems odd, as that's not translated |
| 15:07.28 | MrApathyCream | lemme try something else |
| 15:07.51 | MrApathyCream | wow i get it with others |
| 15:08.33 | MrApathyCream | it's not language dependent |
| 15:08.42 | MrApathyCream | did this change sometime? |
| 15:08.59 | Chestal | works for me |
| 15:09.01 | MrApathyCream | list item 26 = J: |
| 15:09.28 | Chestal | J: ? |
| 15:11.44 | MrApathyCream | jump key help screen |
| 15:11.55 | MrApathyCream | i believe |
| 15:12.21 | MrApathyCream | full build doesn't help |
| 15:12.26 | MrApathyCream | arg |
| 15:12.57 | Chestal | ehm, but where should this J: appear? In the language files? |
| 15:13.22 | MrApathyCream | i don't think it does |
| 15:13.33 | MrApathyCream | it comes from the default menu keys |
| 15:13.37 | MrApathyCream | and isn't translated |
| 15:16.08 | MrApathyCream | I just don't get what this is doing |
| 15:16.09 | MrApathyCream | 0042D26A mov edx,dword ptr [ebp-10h] |
| 15:16.09 | MrApathyCream | 0042D26D mov ecx,dword ptr [edx+4] |
| 15:16.09 | MrApathyCream | 0042D270 call Bundle::getLocalString (004acac0) |
| 15:16.31 | MrApathyCream | it's taking a pointer that 16 bytes from the top of the stack frame, and pushing a long that's 4 bytes off that pointer |
| 15:17.20 | MrApathyCream | but what does this represent? |
| 15:17.25 | Chestal | and it crashes when it tries to get the long? |
| 15:17.35 | Chestal | because the pointer is pointign nowhere? |
| 15:17.37 | MrApathyCream | when it dereferences the pointer to get the long yes |
| 15:17.40 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 15:18.11 | Chestal | where is the call? file/line? |
| 15:18.12 | MrApathyCream | there are no local variables (that we define, anyway) |
| 15:18.24 | MrApathyCream | HUDui.cxx 196 |
| 15:19.00 | MrApathyCream | thing is this method gets called zillions of times before with no probs |
| 15:19.20 | MrApathyCream | so it must be correct code, just bad data |
| 15:19.25 | MrApathyCream | doesn't make sense tho |
| 15:19.25 | Chestal | you already identified bdl and label pushs? |
| 15:19.29 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 15:20.22 | MrApathyCream | 196: label = bdl->getLocalString(_label); |
| 15:20.23 | MrApathyCream | // Next two instructions are the _label push |
| 15:20.23 | MrApathyCream | 0042D262 mov eax,dword ptr [ebp+8] |
| 15:20.23 | MrApathyCream | 0042D265 push eax |
| 15:20.23 | MrApathyCream | // Next two instructions are the 'this' push |
| 15:20.23 | MrApathyCream | 0042D266 lea ecx,[ebp-20h] |
| 15:20.25 | MrApathyCream | 0042D269 push ecx |
| 15:20.25 | Chestal | the libs are not dlls? |
| 15:20.29 | MrApathyCream | / What the heck is this? |
| 15:20.31 | MrApathyCream | 0042D26A mov edx,dword ptr [ebp-10h] |
| 15:20.33 | MrApathyCream | 0042D26D mov ecx,dword ptr [edx+4] |
| 15:20.35 | MrApathyCream | 0042D270 call Bundle::getLocalString (004acac0) |
| 15:20.47 | MrApathyCream | no static libs, linked in |
| 15:21.05 | MrApathyCream | lemme try in release mode, one sce |
| 15:21.40 | MrApathyCream | good, is busted in release as well |
| 15:22.01 | Chestal | hmm, which direction does the stack grow? + or -? |
| 15:22.05 | MrApathyCream | + offsets from eb8 are parm |
| 15:22.16 | MrApathyCream | - offsets from ebp are local vars |
| 15:22.23 | MrApathyCream | +0 is return |
| 15:22.28 | Chestal | ah, ok |
| 15:22.31 | MrApathyCream | +4 is stack frame pointer |
| 15:22.34 | MrApathyCream | +8 is first arg |
| 15:22.47 | Chestal | what is the stack frame pointer for anyway |
| 15:23.06 | MrApathyCream | so you know where the last call stack starts when you return |
| 15:23.38 | Chestal | ah, hmm, so callee cleans up stack? |
| 15:23.43 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 15:23.52 | MrApathyCream | umm, wait, no |
| 15:23.54 | MrApathyCream | caller |
| 15:24.02 | Chestal | but the caller should know this anyway |
| 15:24.15 | MrApathyCream | lessee been awhile |
| 15:24.34 | MrApathyCream | checking |
| 15:24.34 | Chestal | well, not so important right now :-) |
| 15:25.16 | Chestal | hmm, why is ebp-20==this? |
| 15:25.53 | Chestal | it' bdl actually, isn't it? |
| 15:26.30 | MrApathyCream | entry does: |
| 15:26.31 | MrApathyCream | 0042D230 push ebp |
| 15:26.32 | Chestal | maybe I'm not quite understanding the assembly |
| 15:26.32 | MrApathyCream | 0042D231 mov ebp,esp |
| 15:26.37 | MrApathyCream | esp is stack pointer |
| 15:26.47 | MrApathyCream | return does this |
| 15:26.50 | MrApathyCream | 0042D2FA mov esp,ebp |
| 15:26.50 | MrApathyCream | 0042D2FC pop ebp |
| 15:26.50 | MrApathyCream | 0042D2FD ret 4 |
| 15:28.16 | Chestal | well, it must pass label and bdl to the getLocalString function |
| 15:28.26 | Chestal | and it possibly must save some registers first? |
| 15:29.47 | MrApathyCream | registers i would think are stored in the callee |
| 15:29.49 | MrApathyCream | (getLocalString) |
| 15:29.55 | MrApathyCream | but not sure |
| 15:30.11 | MrApathyCream | well, will try to figure out later. |
| 15:30.16 | Chestal | ok |
| 15:30.18 | MrApathyCream | can't imagine what 'just' happened that broke it |
| 15:30.21 | MrApathyCream | off to coal mines |
| 15:30.25 | Chestal | have fun |
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| 16:23.11 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 16:23.11 | [TeA|TrEE] | Hello |
| 16:36.41 | bomber | ~ducatict |
| 16:38.14 | bomber | ~ducatictf |
| 17:02.04 | Secret_Hamster | sussudio: you around |
| 17:02.57 | sussudio | no |
| 17:14.26 | Secret_Hamster | oh never mind then |
| 17:26.35 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
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| 18:15.59 | Jormungandr | why is it that people can't grok a "no swearing" server, and have to get all stupid about it? |
| 18:16.11 | bzdoug | lol |
| 18:16.17 | sussudio | yeah, screw them those bastards |
| 18:16.24 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 18:18.07 | Jormungandr | I just hear lots of swearing and stuff at work, and do some myself, and online, and it's nice to just go somewhere and play a game without being offended. |
| 18:18.19 | bzdoug | indeed |
| 18:18.50 | Jormungandr | not that I'm easily offended, but if I was, I fit into enough minority groups that I'm covered by a lot of profanity. :) |
| 18:21.22 | bzdoug | heh |
| 18:21.48 | bzdoug | Best Free Multiplayer Action Game - BZFlag |
| 18:21.51 | bzdoug | http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 |
| 18:21.53 | bzdoug | WOO WOO |
| 18:23.51 | sussudio | err name me one other free multiplayer action game under linux |
| 18:23.56 | Chestal | hmm, dead for me |
| 18:24.00 | Chestal | gltron |
| 18:24.05 | bzdoug | hah |
| 18:24.06 | sussudio | hmm |
| 18:24.22 | bzdoug | lots |
| 18:24.27 | sussudio | ~sud |
| 18:24.28 | | shut up doug |
| 18:24.30 | bzdoug | vegastrike |
| 18:24.34 | bzdoug | parsec |
| 18:24.54 | sussudio | something with pigs |
| 18:25.02 | Chestal | jetstream :-) |
| 18:25.19 | bzdoug | heh |
| 18:25.31 | Patlabor221 | pigstream? |
| 18:25.35 | bzdoug | sub space |
| 18:25.56 | Jormungandr | was someone working on a "bad word list" function? |
| 18:25.57 | Patlabor221 | pigspace |
| 18:26.11 | Patlabor221 | yes there was work on a filter. |
| 18:26.13 | Chestal | bad word filter is in CVS |
| 18:26.18 | Jormungandr | cool. |
| 18:26.26 | Chestal | I did not try it though, and you need to feed it your own word list |
| 18:26.27 | bzdoug | I would like to see it on all servers |
| 18:26.28 | sussudio | so how will you know if doug talks? |
| 18:26.31 | Jormungandr | I'll put that on new server when we get it going. |
| 18:26.39 | bzdoug | how will you know if sussudio talks |
| 18:26.41 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 18:26.53 | bzdoug | will it kick people with offencive names? |
| 18:26.57 | Patlabor221 | worst word in the world acording to our list serv was "arsebandit" |
| 18:26.59 | Jormungandr | I hope so. |
| 18:27.07 | Jormungandr | hahahaha |
| 18:27.07 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 18:27.20 | Patlabor221 | but then our listserv does blow. |
| 18:27.29 | bzdoug | lol |
| 18:27.32 | Jormungandr | I swear occasionally (yeah, naughty priest, I know), but some people think they are sailors. |
| 18:27.50 | bzdoug | lol |
| 18:27.59 | sussudio | i stick to calling everyone 'pig' |
| 18:28.11 | Patlabor221 | or baka |
| 18:28.14 | Patlabor221 | that worls |
| 18:28.21 | sussudio | or prozac bratwurst, if it's prodan |
| 18:28.24 | Jormungandr | it takes some form to be able to insult someone without using profanity. |
| 18:28.26 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 18:28.26 | bzdoug | I call people swine dog cow horse goat pig etc |
| 18:29.35 | Jormungandr | I finally figured out observer mode. (stupeeed me) |
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| 18:35.34 | bzdoug | woo woo |
| 18:35.42 | bzdoug | I have one of them |
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| 18:45.02 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
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| 18:45.20 | Jormungandr | ~bzflist |
| 18:45.21 | ak|ra | hi |
| 18:45.21 | [dmp] | jzaun: what's up with stats.bzflag.org ? I get only get 1 online player currently |
| 18:59.39 | bzdoug | Wie? |
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| 19:35.43 | *** topic/#bzflag is 1.7g0 "Holy Dancing Monkeys" released! Buy now and get two for the price of one! http://BZFlag.org/ || Updated BZEdit Windows http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit || bzedit 2.1! http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/older/code/tarballs/ || http://stats.bzflag.org/ || http://www.chesco.com/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html || * MrApathyCream 15 workiNG On 50ME+H1nG bz-l33T || <Patlabor221> it's an imporbability drive |
| 19:35.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 19:41.00 | Jormungandr | the internet is broken! |
| 19:44.04 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 19:48.44 | [dmp] | i'll never get bzflag and vc++ to work :-\ |
| 19:48.54 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~booble@p50803273.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:48.57 | Cell | lo |
| 19:49.28 | [dmp] | Cell: Can you help me, getting bzflag compiled under win32? |
| 19:49.43 | [dmp] | or point me somewhere |
| 19:50.12 | Cell | me? |
| 19:50.33 | [dmp] | if you are able to, please :-) .. if not.. Darn |
| 19:50.44 | Cell | [dmp]:what compiler do you have? |
| 19:51.00 | [dmp] | Cell: Visual C++ |
| 19:51.10 | Cell | and whats the prob? |
| 19:51.18 | Cell | i had no probs |
| 19:52.00 | [dmp] | i load the bzflag workspace. But nothing happends . No files, no errors, no nothing :-\ |
| 19:52.37 | Cell | i think you have to change the workspace files |
| 19:52.49 | [dmp] | about everything is ghosted. |
| 19:52.55 | [dmp] | ok |
| 19:52.56 | Cell | they have some wron characters |
| 19:53.22 | [dmp] | what should i look for? |
| 19:53.36 | Cell | as far as i remember you have to replace the newline tokens |
| 19:54.05 | Cell | by /r/n |
| 19:54.08 | Cell | or so |
| 19:54.43 | [dmp] | ah |
| 19:54.49 | [dmp] | i think vim can do that |
| 19:55.48 | Cell | today i told on a talk to the audience that it took me 30 min to get adjacency infos from a STL file with 100k tris. And that was a fault because one in the audience told me it tooks him 30 seconds |
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| 20:14.58 | Secret_Hamster | [dmp]: PS I don't know what Cell said to you (I ignore him). He's a turd. no-one pays any attention to what he says |
| 20:22.08 | [dmp] | Secret_Hamster: Ah, well. Didnt know that. |
| 20:22.25 | [dmp] | Secret_Hamster: He told me that it could be a fileformat problem, which solved my problem. |
| 20:22.25 | sussudio | ~pig cell |
| 20:22.30 | | cell is 87% pig! |
| 20:22.30 | Secret_Hamster | just commenting |
| 20:22.53 | Secret_Hamster | that little? |
| 20:23.03 | sussudio | 13% pigpoop |
| 20:33.28 | [TeA|TrEE] | hey guy |
| 20:33.29 | [TeA|TrEE] | s |
| 20:33.39 | [TeA|TrEE] | how can i look mouse in windows |
| 20:33.41 | [TeA|TrEE] | lock |
| 20:34.05 | [TeA|TrEE] | when little window is open i press next to the window then its gone , i dont wont that |
| 20:37.04 | *** join/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-0-49.stny.rr.com) |
| 20:37.11 | calico | hi all |
| 20:37.12 | [TeA|TrEE] | hey cal |
| 20:37.52 | calico | is chestal around |
| 20:38.25 | calico | ~ducatictf |
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| 20:41.20 | calico | lol tea your here twice :) |
| 20:41.27 | sussudio | pig|double|tree |
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| 20:46.51 | Hamster_afk | cya tomorrow |
| 20:48.57 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | lol suss |
| 20:52.40 | Patlabor221 | dmp did you get windows BZ built? |
| 20:55.31 | [dmp] | Patlabor221: Yes |
| 20:56.33 | Patlabor221 | good |
| 20:59.15 | Patlabor221 | should just be as easy as unzipin, opening the dsw and hiting F7 |
| 21:07.17 | [dmp] | my problem was, that i copied the files from linux, so the projectsfiles needed to be dos'ified. |
| 21:12.04 | *** join/#bzflag rooter ([fsXcvMgVf@webguy.cc.westga.edu) |
| 21:12.17 | rooter | hello |
| 21:12.44 | Patlabor221 | ohhhhhhh |
| 21:12.57 | bzgirl | root? |
| 21:12.58 | Patlabor221 | it's best to tarball them on lin, then use winzip |
| 21:13.05 | bzgirl | hello rooty |
| 21:13.13 | Patlabor221 | winzip will change the line endings for you. |
| 21:13.14 | rooter | hello bzgirl! |
| 21:13.24 | rooter | i'm just screwing around |
| 21:13.31 | bzgirl | ah |
| 21:13.33 | bzgirl | ok |
| 21:13.34 | bzgirl | :) |
| 21:14.00 | rooter | bzgirl: could you check out a map i just made? |
| 21:14.28 | rooter | bzgirl: i have it running on a server |
| 21:14.47 | bzgirl | is it any good? |
| 21:14.47 | bzgirl | :) |
| 21:14.59 | rooter | i don't know... it's my first time :) |
| 21:15.02 | bzgirl | gimme the addy and a couple mins..ok? |
| 21:15.08 | rooter | flag designer virgin |
| 21:15.13 | rooter | k |
| 21:15.31 | sussudio | can someone fake a ping reply in lagstats? |
| 21:17.04 | bzdoug | run bzflag with -echo on |
| 21:17.07 | bzdoug | and do it yourself |
| 21:17.16 | bzdoug | only on linux though |
| 21:17.42 | bzgirl | rooter is it listed this server? |
| 21:17.42 | sussudio | MIRELLA's ping replies are bogus |
| 21:18.01 | rooter | no... |
| 21:30.09 | Patlabor221 | doug, it is |
| 21:30.16 | Patlabor221 | run from a propmpt |
| 21:30.30 | Patlabor221 | it will pump std out to the prompt |
| 21:30.42 | Patlabor221 | hell you could redirect it to a file if you wanted. |
| 21:30.49 | bzdoug | Patlabor221: hmm, |
| 21:30.58 | bzdoug | Patlabor221: must have been fixed |
| 21:30.58 | bzdoug | Patlabor221: e6 never worked |
| 21:31.14 | Patlabor221 | it's not something they shoudl have been able to break |
| 21:31.22 | Patlabor221 | do you run from a prompt? |
| 21:31.29 | bzdoug | yea |
| 21:31.48 | Patlabor221 | odd |
| 21:31.59 | Patlabor221 | unless the disabled it in windows for some reason |
| 21:31.59 | bzdoug | lemme try again |
| 21:32.02 | Patlabor221 | it should work. |
| 21:32.08 | stibnite | bzflag.closedprojects.net:18200 is up and running cambridge |
| 21:32.27 | bzdoug | um |
| 21:32.29 | bzdoug | closedprojects? |
| 21:32.32 | bzdoug | like openprojects? |
| 21:32.39 | bzdoug | costlynode.net |
| 21:32.43 | stibnite | actually, its UNlike openprojects. |
| 21:32.44 | stibnite | ;P |
| 21:32.51 | bzdoug | hah |
| 21:33.04 | Patlabor221 | sometimes closed projects are better |
| 21:33.12 | bzdoug | lol |
| 21:33.22 | stibnite | well the chicago city planners certainly thought so |
| 21:33.24 | bzdoug | like jetstream |
| 21:33.36 | scanline | closed? |
| 21:33.38 | bzdoug | nope |
| 21:33.43 | bzdoug | ;) |
| 21:33.45 | bzdoug | joke |
| 21:33.49 | bzdoug | nope |
| 21:33.51 | bzdoug | -echo dont work |
| 21:36.23 | Patlabor221 | then patch it up |
| 21:36.58 | bzdoug | ? |
| 21:37.29 | Patlabor221 | fix it |
| 21:38.25 | bzgirl | has anyone had teleporter probs with g1, i get stuck in them on certian maps, but return with g0 and it works fine |
| 21:39.45 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 21:40.36 | bzgirl | i just tested a map for rooter..got stuck in ever tele in g1, went back with g0 and im ok |
| 21:41.07 | bzdoug | every teleport? |
| 21:41.08 | bzdoug | sheesh |
| 21:41.12 | bzgirl | yeah |
| 21:41.17 | bzdoug | I dont have CVS though... |
| 21:41.18 | bzgirl | well there are only 4 |
| 21:41.21 | bzdoug | heh |
| 21:41.30 | bzgirl | but theyre not "regualr" ones |
| 21:41.34 | stibnite | anybody know of the status of the CLOSE_WAIT bug? |
| 21:41.57 | bzdoug | WAIT! dont CLOSE the door |
| 21:42.29 | scanline | ~sud |
| 21:42.29 | | shut up doug |
| 21:42.43 | Patlabor221 | hmm the colision code was changed for pyramids, I wonder if they affected Tps too |
| 21:42.54 | bzdoug | :) |
| 21:43.11 | Patlabor221 | last I heard there was a "maybe' fix in the code for the CLOSE_WAIT. |
| 21:43.36 | bzdoug | BAH!!!!!! |
| 21:43.47 | bzdoug | no WONDER Xfree wouldnt work |
| 21:44.05 | scanline | because you screwed it up? |
| 21:44.07 | bzdoug | its set to 16 KB of ram |
| 21:44.13 | bzdoug | not 16 mg |
| 21:44.32 | scanline | video ram is listed in kb |
| 21:44.41 | scanline | so 16765 is actually 16 mb |
| 21:44.45 | bzdoug | yea |
| 21:44.51 | Chestal | abend |
| 21:44.55 | bzdoug | I figured that out this summer |
| 21:44.59 | bzdoug | I forgot |
| 21:45.23 | bzdoug | how do I use x11 without a mouse? |
| 21:45.31 | scanline | keyboard shortcuts |
| 21:45.38 | bzdoug | .. |
| 21:45.39 | stibnite | well, maybe is better than "forget it, sonny." |
| 21:45.43 | bzdoug | and those are.. |
| 21:45.46 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 21:45.53 | bzdoug | I need to reconfigure my mouse |
| 21:46.15 | bzdoug | sweet |
| 21:46.20 | bzdoug | accessx |
| 21:46.25 | bzdoug | very neat |
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| 21:48.56 | Chestal | hi calico |
| 21:48.58 | calico | hi |
| 21:49.03 | bzdoug | whats the /dev/ for PS/2? |
| 21:49.06 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | hey cal :o) |
| 21:49.07 | bzdoug | mouse dont work |
| 21:49.16 | calico | you mad at me or something tea |
| 21:49.31 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | why that? |
| 21:49.51 | calico | you being mean :) |
| 21:50.08 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | me |
| 21:50.09 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | mean???? |
| 21:50.15 | calico | chestal..did you get our match results when we played bips last night |
| 21:50.22 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | im such a nice little tea cup , and you all me mean! |
| 21:50.23 | Chestal | calico: HoW - BiPs 7 - 3 ? |
| 21:50.33 | Chestal | calico: who played? |
| 21:50.36 | calico | yeppers that one |
| 21:50.56 | calico | me and rembo, than dmp for rembo against badin and maple leaf |
| 21:51.15 | Chestal | hmm, who is maple leaf? |
| 21:51.24 | calico | not sure, new member |
| 21:51.28 | calico | hes pretty good |
| 21:51.46 | calico | he joined them last night |
| 21:52.07 | calico | did tea already tell you the bad news on the match |
| 21:52.14 | calico | 6-6 |
| 21:52.19 | calico | :) |
| 21:52.27 | calico | or 6-2 whatever |
| 21:52.32 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | aha |
| 21:52.35 | Chestal | yes, both entered now |
| 21:52.37 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | what did i hear |
| 21:52.40 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | 6-6 ? |
| 21:52.42 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | aha! |
| 21:52.44 | Chestal | 6-2 for HoW |
| 21:52.44 | calico | lol |
| 21:52.49 | calico | yep |
| 21:52.52 | calico | you got it |
| 21:53.10 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | i gave you 200$ so you dont tell it everyone ;o) |
| 21:55.19 | calico | chestal: last night we wanted to have a rematch with bips but.. |
| 21:55.41 | calico | asdf was signed on as an observer and i think he was afk or something |
| 21:55.51 | calico | he didnt say anything the whole time he was there |
| 21:56.09 | calico | so anyway he didnt leave so we couldnt get back in |
| 21:56.20 | calico | is there anything to do about that |
| 21:56.23 | Chestal | yes, that's s problem |
| 21:56.29 | Chestal | once the game is over, noone can join anymore |
| 21:56.53 | Chestal | the only thing I can do in a situatin like that is to restart the server |
| 21:56.59 | calico | yeah we tried for a half hour and couldnt |
| 21:57.18 | Chestal | the server password won't help you because you cannot get on in the first place |
| 21:57.40 | calico | you where sleeping...how dare u :P |
| 21:58.06 | calico | were |
| 21:58.29 | bzdoug | how do I reconfigure xfree in debian? |
| 21:59.29 | bzdoug | with apt-get? |
| 21:59.49 | Chestal | I always do it manually |
| 22:00.00 | bzdoug | bah |
| 22:00.16 | Chestal | maybe dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 will do it |
| 22:00.27 | bzdoug | ah |
| 22:00.28 | bzdoug | thats it |
| 22:00.30 | bzdoug | :) |
| 22:00.51 | bzdoug | thx |
| 22:02.02 | bzdoug | ok |
| 22:02.06 | bzdoug | now to fix my video card |
| 22:02.13 | bzgirl | doug write that down :) |
| 22:02.23 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 22:02.25 | bzdoug | mouse works |
| 22:02.26 | bzdoug | yay |
| 22:02.29 | bzdoug | I fixed linux |
| 22:02.39 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | i have linux |
| 22:02.44 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | dont know how do get online |
| 22:02.46 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | :o) |
| 22:02.52 | bzdoug | heh |
| 22:02.57 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | hmm? |
| 22:02.59 | bzdoug | dialup? |
| 22:03.03 | bzdoug | ISDN? |
| 22:03.05 | bzdoug | DSL? |
| 22:03.07 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | DSL |
| 22:03.19 | bzdoug | hmm |
| 22:03.23 | bzdoug | over ISDN? |
| 22:03.27 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | over router (maybe) |
| 22:03.41 | bzdoug | I saw a ISDN logo on your windows computer awhile back |
| 22:03.47 | bzdoug | maybe not |
| 22:03.54 | bzdoug | dunno |
| 22:03.56 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | oh that old shill |
| 22:04.02 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | Fritz , probaly? |
| 22:04.06 | bzdoug | go ask #redhat #mandrak #debian for help |
| 22:04.12 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | thx |
| 22:04.14 | bzdoug | dunno |
| 22:04.15 | bzdoug | :) |
| 22:06.19 | bzdoug | HAH |
| 22:06.37 | bzdoug | first link with SIS 730 motherboard is the correct one |
| 22:07.27 | sussudio | PIG 730 |
| 22:09.20 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | SWINE 730? |
| 22:09.25 | sussudio | no |
| 22:09.36 | sussudio | SIS 730 is crap |
| 22:09.46 | bzdoug | duh |
| 22:09.48 | bzdoug | SIS is crap |
| 22:09.55 | sussudio | shit in system |
| 22:10.00 | bzdoug | hah |
| 22:10.11 | isfry | sis fly by night chipset =) |
| 22:10.33 | bzdoug | lol |
| 22:11.49 | sussudio | apt-get realtek what |
| 22:12.05 | bzdoug | dunno |
| 22:12.06 | bzdoug | audio |
| 22:12.07 | bzdoug | sound |
| 22:12.17 | sussudio | eww |
| 22:12.34 | sussudio | did you get that mobo in a pack of cornflakes or something? |
| 22:12.41 | bzdoug | sorta |
| 22:12.50 | bzdoug | BIG pack of wheat flaks |
| 22:12.59 | sussudio | PIG sized pack? |
| 22:13.14 | sussudio | feeds whole farm? |
| 22:13.25 | bzdoug | yuppers |
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| 22:16.19 | fiberchunks | lo all |
| 22:16.33 | sussudio | lo schweinerchunks |
| 22:17.05 | Chestal | hi fiber |
| 22:20.06 | trepan | anyone know why I can't draw lines in the message area (console) ? |
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| 22:26.32 | Patlabor221 | whooot baka digital has benn infected!! :) |
| 22:26.41 | bzdoug | WOOO |
| 22:26.51 | fiberchunks | what? |
| 22:26.52 | bzdoug | congrats, what are you gonna do? |
| 22:27.01 | Patlabor221 | not asgard, it's fine |
| 22:27.09 | Patlabor221 | ragnrok |
| 22:27.24 | fiberchunks | what'd it get hit with? |
| 22:27.26 | Patlabor221 | all sorts of nasy thigns |
| 22:27.38 | Patlabor221 | IS guy has a huge list :) |
| 22:27.57 | fiberchunks | any idea how? |
| 22:28.04 | Patlabor221 | all ports = open |
| 22:28.14 | Patlabor221 | it was set up by a dumbass |
| 22:28.17 | Patlabor221 | FromSubjectReceivedSize |
| 22:28.17 | Patlabor221 | Denis SwanRE: zone alarmWed 1/29/2003 2:13 PM928 B |
| 22:28.21 | fiberchunks | ah, naughty, naughty |
| 22:28.39 | Patlabor221 | opps |
| 22:28.44 | Patlabor221 | shouldn't have pasted that :) |
| 22:28.51 | fiberchunks | pasted what ;) |
| 22:28.59 | Patlabor221 | that line witht he dumbasses name |
| 22:29.14 | fiberchunks | I know, I was 'playin it cool' lol |
| 22:29.27 | Patlabor221 | I'm blockin the piss outa ports now. |
| 22:33.28 | Patlabor221 | bz uses 5155 5156 and what else? |
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| 22:34.09 | fiberchunks | depends on how many players -- 17200-172xx (where xx is maxplayers + a couple) UDP |
| 22:34.17 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | ~ducatictf |
| 22:34.22 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | ~ducati |
| 22:34.30 | Chestal | server listens on -p and -pr |
| 22:34.36 | Chestal | on -p both TCP and UDP, that's it |
| 22:34.49 | Patlabor221 | what is the default for -pr? |
| 22:34.57 | Chestal | I think -p + 1 |
| 22:35.04 | Chestal | not sure, though, I always specify both |
| 22:35.14 | Patlabor221 | dosn't it need to use a port per player? |
| 22:35.18 | Chestal | no |
| 22:35.22 | Patlabor221 | koo |
| 22:35.34 | Chestal | I think older versions did that |
| 22:35.54 | fiberchunks | ah, I was always told to use 17200-172xx where xx was maxplayers |
| 22:35.57 | Chestal | once we break compat., we'll be able to cope with a singe port |
| 22:36.24 | Chestal | the client uses 17200 (or the first free port starting from there) for its UDP packets |
| 22:36.25 | fiberchunks | that'll be nice -- one for TCP and one for UDP? |
| 22:36.35 | Chestal | TCP and UDP can share a port |
| 22:36.58 | Chestal | bzfs already does that |
| 22:37.00 | fiberchunks | so is the protocol redesign doing away with tcp? |
| 22:37.08 | Chestal | in the long run maybe |
| 22:37.16 | Patlabor221 | can someone fire up zero and see if ragnaroc shows? |
| 22:37.16 | Chestal | but a quick fix would be to get rid of the silly reconnect |
| 22:37.31 | fiberchunks | yah, Patlabor221, one minute |
| 22:37.35 | Patlabor221 | thanks |
| 22:38.39 | Chestal | hmm, I'm contactitn two webserevr right now, and both are not working |
| 22:39.13 | Chestal | and this itsy bitsy worm is still active |
| 22:39.45 | Chestal | does anyone know which other software besides M$ SQL server it does attack? |
| 22:39.51 | fiberchunks | yah, it's there |
| 22:39.56 | Patlabor221 | coolio |
| 22:40.17 | fiberchunks | and I connected, should be all good |
| 22:55.40 | scanline | ~particle du jour |
| 22:55.41 | | excited pseudoneutron |
| 23:04.02 | Patlabor221 | why is it pseudo? |
| 23:04.36 | bzdoug | its sorta a neutron |
| 23:04.37 | bzdoug | not quite |
| 23:04.53 | Patlabor221 | ~sud |
| 23:04.54 | | shut up doug |
| 23:07.24 | Patlabor221 | ibot thank you |
| 23:07.24 | | Patlabor221: de rien |
| 23:07.27 | *** join/#bzflag nikt (nikt@nikt.org) |
| 23:08.24 | bzdoug | do they fly? |
| 23:08.30 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@mxfcl5x81.chesco.com) |
| 23:08.41 | bzdoug | MrApathyCream!!!!!!!! |
| 23:09.29 | *** part/#bzflag nikt (nikt@nikt.org) |
| 23:12.12 | hardwire | bah |
| 23:12.40 | bzdoug | its soooo nice having a apt-get mirror 20 miles away |
| 23:12.59 | Patlabor221 | why does distance mater? |
| 23:13.13 | bzdoug | same ISP |
| 23:13.19 | bzdoug | same fiber loop |
| 23:13.28 | Patlabor221 | cut 0.000023 light seconds off your ping? |
| 23:13.37 | bzdoug | yup |
| 23:13.55 | hardwire | lowwwwwwer diiiigggggiiitttaaallll atteeeeeennuuuaaaaaaaaattiiioooonnnnn |
| 23:14.01 | MrApathyCream | howdy |
| 23:14.07 | hardwire | yehaw |
| 23:14.13 | bzdoug | !!!! |
| 23:14.26 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: get the lenoooux buld working? |
| 23:14.30 | bzdoug | D:\Documents and Settings\doug>ping slugsite.louisville.edu |
| 23:14.31 | bzdoug | Pinging horse.slug.louisville.edu [136.165.47.200] with 32 bytes of data: |
| 23:14.31 | bzdoug | Request timed out. |
| 23:14.34 | Patlabor221 | not yet |
| 23:14.39 | Patlabor221 | having server issues |
| 23:14.57 | fiberchunks | on the 'preferred development platform', I might add ;) j/k |
| 23:15.06 | bzdoug | hahah |
| 23:15.13 | Patlabor221 | on the set up by a tard platfrom |
| 23:15.19 | fiberchunks | LOL |
| 23:15.20 | hardwire | Windows has ping? |
| 23:15.31 | fiberchunks | and tracert too |
| 23:15.32 | bzdoug | hardwire: sure, and traceroute and things |
| 23:15.40 | hardwire | whats things do? |
| 23:15.47 | fiberchunks | man things |
| 23:16.02 | bzdoug | hardwire: windows XP will be the WAY of the future |
| 23:16.05 | hardwire | hmm.. this is all very interesting.. I am gonna have to install doze so I can ping things |
| 23:16.09 | sussudio | ~sud |
| 23:16.10 | | shut up doug |
| 23:16.10 | hardwire | but.. only if I have user privileges |
| 23:16.19 | bzdoug | hardwire: indeed |
| 23:19.48 | bzdoug | those hurt really bad |
| 23:20.17 | bzdoug | how do I check to see what kernal I have installed? |
| 23:20.23 | bzdoug | kernel* |
| 23:20.32 | fiberchunks | uname -a |
| 23:20.41 | bzdoug | hmm, simple |
| 23:21.51 | bzdoug | bah |
| 23:21.58 | bzdoug | bloody thing dint upgrade the kernal |
| 23:22.07 | bzdoug | apt-get install upgrade? |
| 23:22.08 | bzdoug | :P |
| 23:22.09 | MrApathyCream | hmmm getting a crash with latest cvs |
| 23:22.19 | MrApathyCream | The label that says J: |
| 23:22.22 | MrApathyCream | in help |
| 23:22.26 | MrApathyCream | in the menus |
| 23:22.30 | MrApathyCream | the Control is null |
| 23:22.35 | MrApathyCream | --hmmm what changed? |
| 23:23.07 | fiberchunks | ~synonym readout |
| 23:23.22 | fiberchunks | hrmph |
| 23:24.02 | Chestal | hmm, current CVS crashes on me now when I enter the options menu |
| 23:24.37 | bzdoug | Rambus Wins Case Against Infineon |
| 23:25.26 | MrApathyCream | The control is NULL |
| 23:27.11 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: I bet the HUDuiControl is NULL, or invalid |
| 23:27.11 | bzdoug | when is bzflag 2.8.5.3.6.3.5.3 comeing out? |
| 23:27.24 | Patlabor221 | I mean for real. |
| 23:27.56 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | night night all |
| 23:27.56 | bzdoug | lol |
| 23:27.57 | Chestal | MAC: hmm, will look into it tomorrow, need my sleep now. Or you fix it :-) |
| 23:28.03 | MrApathyCream | ok, will try |
| 23:28.26 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | Sleep tight |
| 23:28.56 | bzdoug | ! |
| 23:29.01 | Patlabor221 | !! |
| 23:29.10 | MrApathyCream | ibot, BarnacleDoug? |
| 23:29.10 | | a guy who sits in #bzflag and doesn't talk about bzflag |
| 23:29.24 | bzdoug | it says I have the latest kernel, but the uname -a thing says kernel 2.2 |
| 23:29.25 | Patlabor221 | cell would be one too |
| 23:29.37 | Patlabor221 | case in point ^^^^^^^ |
| 23:30.08 | fiberchunks | then you have the latest kernel for your distro |
| 23:30.11 | fiberchunks | :P |
| 23:30.36 | fiberchunks | go to kernel.org, grab the 2.4.20 sources and compile from scratch |
| 23:30.39 | bzdoug | bah |
| 23:30.42 | bzdoug | I did apt-get |
| 23:30.44 | bzdoug | it should work |
| 23:30.53 | fiberchunks | bah, compile it from source |
| 23:31.00 | bzdoug | bah, too hard |
| 23:31.05 | Patlabor221 | or go ask in #MySillyDistro |
| 23:31.16 | Patlabor221 | yay |
| 23:33.41 | Patlabor221 | wow ragnaroc is realy screwed |
| 23:33.56 | fiberchunks | format and reinstall grasshopper |
| 23:33.57 | Patlabor221 | maybe I should switch it to the prefred server platform |
| 23:34.02 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 23:34.02 | Patlabor221 | I may |
| 23:34.19 | fiberchunks | you should anywho -- just to be safe, imho |
| 23:34.21 | Patlabor221 | never said win was the prefred server plat, just the prefrered dev :) |
| 23:34.26 | Patlabor221 | well I need asp |
| 23:34.35 | Patlabor221 | and I don't want to do the chillsoft thing |
| 23:34.48 | Patlabor221 | or I should say the server needs ASP, not I |
| 23:35.09 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: have any swifty tools for looking at std::vector's in the debugger? |
| 23:35.19 | Patlabor221 | sadly, no |
| 23:35.32 | Patlabor221 | tho bounds checker may help with that. |
| 23:35.39 | MrApathyCream | GOOD IDEA! |
| 23:35.41 | MrApathyCream | checking |
| 23:35.42 | Patlabor221 | but I don't have it installed |
| 23:35.45 | MrApathyCream | i do |
| 23:35.48 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 23:36.12 | Patlabor221 | gawd they installed IIS compoenetns I don't even NEED on here |
| 23:36.25 | Patlabor221 | broke DCOM |
| 23:36.35 | Patlabor221 | installed a SMTP server when I told them NOT to. |
| 23:36.47 | fiberchunks | who are these people? |
| 23:36.47 | MrApathyCream | anyone know how to get a list of changes, say in the last week in cvs? |
| 23:36.49 | Patlabor221 | and none of the security updates |
| 23:36.52 | bzdoug | ~test |
| 23:36.52 | | Yes, bzdoug, your still online. |
| 23:37.01 | Patlabor221 | one of our IIS guys that just quit. |
| 23:37.16 | fiberchunks | ah, a case of the point and click admin? |
| 23:37.32 | Patlabor221 | a case of the "I don't know shit" admin |
| 23:37.42 | Patlabor221 | I think the server setup cut into his movie wathcing time |
| 23:37.46 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 23:37.47 | Patlabor221 | he just went with the defaults. |
| 23:38.04 | Patlabor221 | MAC, I think WinCVS will do that for you, it has reports. |
| 23:38.36 | MrApathyCream | nothing built into cvs? |
| 23:38.56 | MrApathyCream | just broke in the last day or two |
| 23:39.29 | Patlabor221 | I don't think there is, just ways to list the historys, and the winCVS parses that |
| 23:39.52 | Patlabor221 | could do it right quick in SourceSafe :) |
| 23:40.00 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 23:40.05 | MrApathyCream | and clearcase |
| 23:40.54 | Patlabor221 | clearcase work of the net? |
| 23:41.14 | MrApathyCream | no, i don't think so |
| 23:41.28 | MrApathyCream | there is 'replication' between to separate sites |
| 23:41.39 | Patlabor221 | what does it use for that? |
| 23:42.04 | Patlabor221 | cus that would be neat |
| 23:42.23 | MrApathyCream | i dunno |
| 23:42.41 | MrApathyCream | it is a pain in the butt |
| 23:43.02 | MrApathyCream | each site has write ownership of one branch |
| 23:43.17 | Patlabor221 | ohh ick |
| 23:43.26 | MrApathyCream | so while you can readonly sync, there's no replicate & merge |
| 23:43.42 | MrApathyCream | the merge must happen once the files get to the other side, as a separate step |
| 23:43.45 | Patlabor221 | not good for both sites working at the same time |
| 23:44.01 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 23:44.23 | Patlabor221 | I realy hope the subversion VC plugin gets finished |
| 23:44.27 | Patlabor221 | that would be nice. |
| 23:46.28 | MrApathyCream | this is really tickin' me off |
| 23:47.32 | MrApathyCream | Patlabor221: you fluent 86 asm guy? |
| 23:47.53 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 23:47.55 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | ~ducatictf |
| 23:47.59 | [TeA|TrEE]_ | ~ducati |
| 23:48.09 | Patlabor221 | took one class in asm, and am thankfull I have forgoten it :) |
| 23:48.13 | *** part/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE]_ (~Nicholas@pD9E97B8C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:48.16 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 23:55.39 | MrApathyCream | This is really odd |
| 23:55.40 | MrApathyCream | voidHelp1Menu::resize(int width, int height) |
| 23:55.52 | MrApathyCream | is doing |
| 23:55.53 | MrApathyCream | list[j]->setLabel(value); |
| 23:55.57 | MrApathyCream | where j is 26 |
| 23:56.05 | MrApathyCream | but according to debugger, list only has 26 items |
| 23:56.10 | MrApathyCream | so BOOOOM |
| 23:57.25 | Patlabor221 | this is why iterators are coo |
| 23:57.33 | fiberchunks | ~dict diminutive |
| 23:57.37 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 23:57.58 | Patlabor221 | why are we not using an iterator there |
| 23:57.59 | MrApathyCream | oooh, I think it might be ChooseSilence |
| 23:58.12 | MrApathyCream | we are looping over another array |
| 23:58.13 | MrApathyCream | not the lsit |
| 23:58.23 | Patlabor221 | ick |
| 23:58.24 | MrApathyCream | that's got to be it, --> new |
| 23:59.08 | MrApathyCream | wow there |
| 23:59.15 | MrApathyCream | wow theres a bunch missing |