| 00:09.54 | Chestal | hmm, strange, server still thinks sw might move with 25m/s |
| 00:10.11 | MrApathyCream | hmm 25 is top tanks speed no? |
| 00:10.16 | Jormungandr | yay.. back to 4:00-11:30pm for work next week, instead of 5-12:30am |
| 00:11.01 | Chestal | note to self: always copy executable to the right spot |
| 00:11.07 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 00:11.55 | Chestal | well, I guess it should work now |
| 00:13.03 | Widget | Hm. |
| 00:13.15 | Chestal | hi Widget |
| 00:13.18 | MrApathyCream | chestal is +f[8] ok? |
| 00:13.19 | Widget | Chestal: hihihi |
| 00:13.27 | Chestal | MAC: I have to escape the {} in my unix shell or put the option in quotes |
| 00:13.35 | MrApathyCream | so are brackets ok? |
| 00:13.37 | Chestal | same with [] I guess |
| 00:13.43 | MrApathyCream | what would be good |
| 00:14.00 | Chestal | do we need brackets at all? |
| 00:14.06 | Chestal | +f sw10 ? |
| 00:14.08 | MrApathyCream | looks oogley otherwise |
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| 00:14.45 | MrApathyCream | +f*8 ? |
| 00:14.47 | MrApathyCream | um |
| 00:14.52 | MrApathyCream | +f L*8 ? |
| 00:14.55 | Widget | Wer reitet so spaet durch nacht und wind |
| 00:14.58 | Chestal | '*' is a wildcard, too :-) |
| 00:15.02 | Widget | Es ist der Vater mit seinem Kind |
| 00:15.11 | Chestal | Der Erlkönig |
| 00:15.22 | Widget | Jaja. |
| 00:15.34 | Chestal | MAC: well, we'll keep {} fo rnow I guess |
| 00:16.03 | MrApathyCream | you can always use conf files if you want :) |
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| 00:17.24 | Chestal | try alying with 800x600, allow som eopacity and write a message |
| 00:17.29 | Chestal | font is not fulyl visible |
| 00:17.45 | Chestal | font sizes / mosue are sizes need some work anyway IMHO |
| 00:17.46 | MrApathyCream | clipped into radar right? |
| 00:17.52 | Chestal | yes, a little |
| 00:18.05 | MrApathyCream | the radar and messages are too low on 8x6 |
| 00:18.14 | Chestal | I think it migh tbe nice to be able to adjust the size of the max and nomotion boxes |
| 00:18.23 | Chestal | siilar to mosue sensitivity |
| 00:18.57 | MrApathyCream | fine by me but i'm not losing sleep |
| 00:19.37 | Chestal | well, it's kind of silly IMHO that you have totally diffeeernt mouse sensitivity now depending on wheterh you use ful opacity or not |
| 00:19.42 | MrApathyCream | would be nice if the mouse was captured when playing -window |
| 00:19.48 | Chestal | it is on unix |
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| 00:20.18 | Chestal | can be disbled with mousegrab no |
| 00:21.12 | Chestal | once the mouse leaves the window, the grab is gone (I can force it to do that by switching to another desktop) |
| 00:22.18 | MrApathyCream | Tim go out to get a smoke? |
| 00:22.41 | Chestal | I'll run ducati 5155 with new version now |
| 00:22.45 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 00:23.32 | Chestal | difficult to tell, whetehr the checks are working ok, though |
| 00:23.51 | Chestal | shootign player might only notice that his shot didn't kill |
| 00:23.55 | Chestal | other players will not see the shots |
| 00:24.08 | Chestal | I coudl run with -d -d for a while |
| 00:24.09 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 00:24.14 | MrApathyCream | good idea |
| 00:24.55 | Chestal | ah, we should disallow special character in callsigns |
| 00:25.00 | Chestal | I guess I'll implement that right now |
| 00:26.10 | Chestal | should server reject the player or just remove the special characters? |
| 00:26.31 | MrApathyCream | i guess just remove |
| 00:26.37 | MrApathyCream | don't feel strongly |
| 00:27.03 | Chestal | hm, I could use isprint() |
| 00:27.12 | Chestal | guess that should do it |
| 00:27.33 | MrApathyCream | is ' ' true? |
| 00:27.51 | Chestal | yes |
| 00:28.16 | Chestal | with the C locale, I guess it's everythng <127 and >= ' ' |
| 00:28.44 | MrApathyCream | Hmm, could be good. Player may not even know his name was changed |
| 00:28.59 | MrApathyCream | He still has ctrl-chars, perhaps... dunno |
| 00:29.59 | Chestal | hmm ,simply adding 'ä' in the cofnig file didn't do it, clien tobviously stripped it? |
| 00:30.00 | MrApathyCream | Often i see blank names, This is due to bad disconnects or something |
| 00:30.07 | Chestal | I ave seen peopel doing this, though |
| 00:30.23 | MrApathyCream | i18n strips some chars |
| 00:31.24 | Chestal | ok, got it to work now |
| 00:31.42 | MrApathyCream | is this a client fix, or server? |
| 00:32.07 | Chestal | server |
| 00:32.15 | MrApathyCream | do you see that your name was changed on you |
| 00:32.54 | Chestal | probably not when I just remove the chars |
| 00:32.57 | MrApathyCream | hmm, sf seems down |
| 00:33.04 | MrApathyCream | that's godd |
| 00:33.12 | MrApathyCream | good... nobody would complain then |
| 00:33.19 | Chestal | hmm, it's a char[], how awkward |
| 00:39.18 | Chestal | hmm, this loop looks evil, I hope it works :-) |
| 00:39.42 | MrApathyCream | copying chars down as you remove them? |
| 00:40.34 | Chestal | yes |
| 00:41.12 | Chestal | I wonder if I shoudl use STL algoritm remove_if or something like that :-) |
| 00:41.23 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 00:44.02 | MrApathyCream | was a timeframe for g2 mentioned? i missed that |
| 00:44.41 | Chestal | no |
| 00:44.52 | Chestal | as usual, I vote for not rushing it |
| 00:45.04 | MrApathyCream | heh, testing, shmesting |
| 00:45.08 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 00:45.08 | Chestal | some small thigns should get in |
| 00:45.12 | Chestal | testing :-) |
| 00:45.18 | Chestal | and have a look at the bug reports |
| 00:45.40 | MrApathyCream | sf seems down |
| 00:45.42 | Chestal | maybe 1-2 weeks from now if we can make the necessary changes fast |
| 00:46.05 | Chestal | would be merely a maintenance update, nearly no features |
| 00:46.19 | MrApathyCream | i could live with a new version a month ;) |
| 00:46.26 | Chestal | callsign cleaning seems to work |
| 00:46.30 | MrApathyCream | kul |
| 00:48.09 | Chestal | Changelog is lagging behind |
| 00:48.28 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 00:48.46 | MrApathyCream | i usually only log 'bigger' things |
| 00:49.00 | Widget | Chestal: What's the difference between "fragen" and "bitten"? |
| 00:49.47 | Chestal | Widget: "fragen" is when you have a question and just want to know something |
| 00:49.57 | Chestal | Widget: "bitten" is to ask someone to do something |
| 00:50.04 | Widget | Ah, thanks. |
| 00:51.15 | fiberchunks | pardon, are any of you running bzflag on a dell inspiron 8200 w/ nvidia gforce4 440 go? |
| 00:51.34 | fiberchunks | need to get a new laptop, and bzflag happens to be one of my purchasing criteria :) |
| 00:52.37 | Chestal | shoudl run just fine I would assume |
| 00:53.12 | MrApathyCream | agrred |
| 00:53.14 | fiberchunks | well good -- I think that's what I'll get - nice little machine |
| 00:54.19 | fiberchunks | by the way Chestal - I responded to your post -- I'm not sure how to setup a 'server' category -- but I'm off right now - post any ideas bout it in the forum, if you would |
| 00:54.34 | fiberchunks | and I submitted that bug report |
| 00:54.39 | Chestal | ok |
| 00:55.43 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:55.58 | MrApathyCream | oops puppy found keyboard |
| 01:02.23 | Jormungandr | profound puppy :) |
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| 01:09.16 | scanline | yay for 56k |
| 01:10.45 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 01:19.34 | *** join/#bzflag Patalbor221 (~jeffm@dsl-65-184-174-217.telocity.com) |
| 01:21.11 | MrApathyCream | Jormungandr: you probably want to update your cvs... things are 'better' now |
| 01:32.53 | Patalbor221 | cap: you here. |
| 01:32.58 | Patalbor221 | cap: this is for you man http://captan.proton.youaremyfriend.com/ |
| 01:35.24 | Proton_Man | Patalbor221: scary |
| 01:35.30 | Patalbor221 | very |
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| 01:36.31 | Patalbor221 | the swelling music is great tho |
| 01:36.45 | Proton_Man | it was horrible |
| 01:36.57 | Patalbor221 | LOL |
| 01:36.59 | Patalbor221 | ohh man |
| 01:37.08 | Patalbor221 | I"m sorry |
| 01:37.29 | Patalbor221 | it just fit the words so well, like it was a movie preview or something :) |
| 01:38.01 | Patalbor221 | so would your sidekick be electron, or nutron? |
| 01:38.18 | Proton_Man | positrino |
| 01:38.41 | Patalbor221 | I wold think that negatron would be your nemisis |
| 01:39.16 | Patalbor221 | you would have to have a dog or cat named boson |
| 01:41.23 | Patalbor221 | oh and... |
| 01:41.27 | Patalbor221 | DOUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:43.37 | Patalbor221 | doug went and played on normal servers with BZX |
| 01:43.49 | Patalbor221 | and now I have people asking me where to get it |
| 01:43.57 | Patalbor221 | and they some how know I made it |
| 01:45.25 | Patalbor221 | therefore he must be punished |
| 01:45.42 | Proton_Man | bah |
| 01:47.16 | Patalbor221 | tho it seems I don't have to run my own list serv |
| 01:47.30 | Patalbor221 | I can just have my list-server.txt point to the nomral one |
| 01:59.30 | Patalbor221 | since I am version "zero" |
| 01:59.41 | Patalbor221 | ooooo I could call it BZFlag-Zero |
| 01:59.48 | Patalbor221 | sounds like a bad anime |
| 02:02.17 | Chestal | good night |
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| 02:10.40 | MrApathyCream | nite, Chestal |
| 02:11.33 | scanline | wow, subversion isn't nearly as painful as CVS over a 56k |
| 02:12.28 | proton-onyx2 | scanline: hm, care to let me check-in changes to pgserver? ;) |
| 02:12.44 | scanline | proton-onyx2: sure, lemme add you to the picogui project in sourceforge |
| 02:13.04 | scanline | it's david_trowbridge, right? |
| 02:13.12 | proton-onyx2 | 'davidtrowbridge' |
| 02:13.17 | scanline | ah, ok |
| 02:13.34 | proton-onyx2 | =) |
| 02:14.51 | scanline | I should probably remove some of these people that haven't checked in anything in ages... |
| 02:15.19 | scanline | ok, you're in |
| 02:17.47 | proton-onyx2 | i guess i'll just use /usr/freeware like everything else |
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| 02:30.02 | Patalbor221 | hmmm, I have to remember to tell Tim that I don't think I could do BZX as a compile option in CVS, unless the way version numbers are handled changes |
| 02:40.13 | MrApathyCream | Proton_Man: is anyone in your family involved with trucking? |
| 02:41.27 | proton-onyx2 | MrApathyCream: nope |
| 02:41.47 | MrApathyCream | --saw a Trowbridge trucking line |
| 02:43.43 | Patalbor221 | what is ASCII for ':' ? |
| 02:44.26 | MrApathyCream | 0x3a |
| 02:44.32 | Patalbor221 | thanks |
| 02:49.41 | Patalbor221 | cleanin out the old bugs? |
| 02:50.28 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 02:54.17 | Patalbor221 | now this is a nice utility, lets you map a URL to a drive letter |
| 02:54.33 | MrApathyCream | Patalbor221: Could have a project that everything else uses as a dependency. That project writes to the dsp files of all the others |
| 02:55.03 | MrApathyCream | but yes, version #s are particularly easy to deal with |
| 02:55.56 | Patalbor221 | I could do that on windows yes, but what about leenox? and then it would be REAALY easy for someone to just move the #define _EXTREME into the normal project |
| 02:56.28 | MrApathyCream | insert phrase here:____________________ |
| 02:56.32 | Patalbor221 | bob |
| 02:56.54 | Patalbor221 | "and that's a fact jack" |
| 02:58.05 | Patalbor221 | " look lady I only speak 2 languages, English and BadEnglish." |
| 03:00.13 | Patalbor221 | "biiiiigga bada boom" |
| 03:00.31 | Patalbor221 | " |
| 03:00.50 | Patalbor221 | "Anyone else want to negoiate?" |
| 03:01.11 | Patalbor221 | "Muuuuuuulllllllittiii ppass" |
| 03:05.33 | Patalbor221 | I thought that movie was gonna be wierd when it came out |
| 03:05.38 | Patalbor221 | but it turned into a cult clasic |
| 03:05.55 | proton-onyx2 | Patalbor221: whcih movie?! |
| 03:06.00 | proton-onyx2 | the name is escaping me |
| 03:06.30 | Patalbor221 | still |
| 03:06.38 | Patalbor221 | fifth elelemnt |
| 03:07.29 | proton-onyx2 | ahhhh |
| 03:07.30 | proton-onyx2 | right |
| 03:07.46 | proton-onyx2 | yeah, weird movie, even a bad movie, but fun to watch |
| 03:08.17 | Patalbor221 | very wierd |
| 03:08.26 | Patalbor221 | but yes enjoyable to watch |
| 03:08.46 | Patalbor221 | to me it falls in the same place as Hudson Hawk |
| 03:09.00 | Patalbor221 | ooooooo sticky bombs in bz |
| 03:09.17 | Patalbor221 | yet another use for the "phoont" sound |
| 03:11.34 | Patalbor221 | MAC think you can find a "thunk"? |
| 03:11.47 | Patalbor221 | a metalic thunk? |
| 03:12.30 | Patalbor221 | let me get it for you then |
| 03:12.43 | proton-onyx2 | stereo and half-rate! |
| 03:12.51 | proton-onyx2 | so it has the same amount of information as a decent-sounding mono |
| 03:12.55 | Patalbor221 | 22 16bit sterio |
| 03:12.58 | Patalbor221 | yeah |
| 03:12.59 | Patalbor221 | I know |
| 03:13.41 | MrApathyCream | Patalbor221: heh |
| 03:13.58 | Patalbor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/rearshot.wav |
| 03:14.26 | Patalbor221 | need to tweak the bass on that "phoont" tho |
| 03:14.48 | proton-onyx2 | Patalbor221: no audio on the system i'm using |
| 03:15.09 | Patalbor221 | what good is an o2 if it can't phoont? |
| 03:15.39 | Patalbor221 | get scanline to play it and turn it up WAY loud |
| 03:15.57 | proton-onyx2 | Patalbor221: scanline is about an hours drive away |
| 03:16.06 | Patalbor221 | I mean WAYYYYYY loud |
| 03:16.13 | proton-onyx2 | i'll listen to it when i go back home |
| 03:19.02 | Patalbor221 | whoa that thing sounds wierd reversed |
| 03:19.20 | Patalbor221 | I could almost use it reversed for a flag spawn |
| 03:19.41 | Patalbor221 | realy good thooooohp sound |
| 03:20.53 | Patalbor221 | is there a good linux sound editor? |
| 03:21.24 | proton-onyx2 | a few |
| 03:21.29 | proton-onyx2 | i've never really looked into them |
| 03:23.13 | scanline | audacity |
| 03:23.25 | scanline | it's cross-platform and open source |
| 03:23.26 | Patalbor221 | wow, when you reverse the falg won soud it sounds amlost exactly the same :) |
| 03:25.21 | Patalbor221 | I think I'm gonna change the TP sound to a ST:TNG style warp thunder calp |
| 03:25.56 | proton-onyx2 | heh |
| 03:26.16 | Patalbor221 | way more then slightly |
| 03:26.22 | bzdougg | ah |
| 03:26.45 | Patalbor221 | hmm MAC that's not bad |
| 03:27.08 | Patalbor221 | not as much sharp "ting" as I would have liked but I'll use it for now |
| 03:27.18 | Patalbor221 | where do you get these MAC? |
| 03:27.28 | MrApathyCream | *shrug* |
| 03:32.51 | scanline | http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/tinted-spheres.png |
| 03:36.24 | Patalbor221 | ooooooo |
| 03:36.39 | Patalbor221 | I asume that's a large ass surface? |
| 03:37.05 | scanline | it's exactly the same as the 1999 other spheres in the background :) |
| 03:37.11 | scanline | (except for a random color tint) |
| 03:37.34 | Patalbor221 | looks planetish |
| 03:37.53 | scanline | could be, after a lot of extra SurfaceModifiers |
| 03:38.20 | scanline | all the spheres only have a ColorModulator applied to them, the black sphere enclosing it all has a ColorModifier and SurfaceInverter |
| 03:39.26 | Patalbor221 | one sphere to bind them? |
| 03:41.15 | proton-onyx2 | 2000 spheres to bind them |
| 03:41.30 | Patalbor221 | no the black enclosing one |
| 03:42.15 | scanline | :) |
| 03:42.44 | Patalbor221 | tho the fifth one down on the left side looks like it could be a bit evil |
| 03:43.43 | scanline | http://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/technicolor-bug.png |
| 03:44.42 | scanline | seems to be applying the ColorModulator multiple times as it splits and merges :-/ |
| 03:45.01 | proton-onyx2 | scanline: purdy |
| 03:45.14 | scanline | purdy... for a BUG |
| 03:46.18 | Patalbor221 | plasma sphere |
| 03:46.58 | scanline | a similar looking non-bug effect would be good for stars :) |
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| 03:58.07 | DB7654321 | Howdy -- Does anyone know of this "bozo" guy on turkey? |
| 03:58.16 | DB7654321 | ...Evidently, he's an OP |
| 03:58.52 | DB7654321 | ...I play under the name of "his prosthetic penis". As immature as it is, it's my nick. |
| 03:59.40 | fiberchunks | bozo? |
| 03:59.43 | DB7654321 | Unforunately, when playing on turkey tonight, I recieved a message from bozo requesting for me to change my name. Not knowing who he was, I said "No.". I was banned |
| 03:59.47 | DB7654321 | Yes |
| 04:00.02 | fiberchunks | what ip? |
| 04:00.10 | DB7654321 | This one -- Lemme check |
| 04:00.23 | DB7654321 | 4.3.185.179 |
| 04:00.51 | fiberchunks | that in the proper format? |
| 04:01.00 | DB7654321 | Any idea who he is? ...KP doesn't have a problem with my nick, and I've NEVER seen this bozo guy anywhere before |
| 04:01.04 | DB7654321 | Yes |
| 04:01.11 | fiberchunks | no, I don't |
| 04:01.19 | DB7654321 | Hrm |
| 04:02.19 | fiberchunks | unbanned |
| 04:03.04 | fiberchunks | check it -- make sure I did it please |
| 04:03.08 | stibnite | hehe |
| 04:03.45 | fiberchunks | I don't have a prob with your nick either (given a recent revelation in the way I play ;) ) |
| 04:04.01 | proton-onyx2 | fiberchunks: revelation? |
| 04:04.20 | stibnite | my nick was also frowned upon, but i opted to leave. |
| 04:04.46 | fiberchunks | yeah - i used to ban for nick crap, but I don't anymore -- retarded really (unless it's _really_ offensive) |
| 04:05.11 | fiberchunks | e.g: go fornicate yourself, I'd allow ... the vulgar, I wouldn't |
| 04:05.34 | stibnite | well my (apparently objectionable) nick is "Mr. Holland's Anus" |
| 04:05.42 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 04:05.45 | fiberchunks | LOL |
| 04:05.47 | fiberchunks | nice |
| 04:06.07 | stibnite | hehe ty |
| 04:06.08 | fiberchunks | I wouldn't have a prob with it, but other admins on turkey might - if I'm playing - don't sweat it |
| 04:06.17 | stibnite | :) |
| 04:07.01 | fiberchunks | but I also usually follow the 'whichever admin is there first, does the deed' rule too -- whatever, as long as it's me adminning - no worries |
| 04:10.47 | fiberchunks | DB7654321: did you check that out? |
| 04:39.11 | TimRiker | fiberchunks: I'm on a 5000e but that's a different chipset. works fine here. |
| 04:51.35 | bzdougg | "95% of all Slashdot .sig quotes are incorrect or completely fabricated." -Benjamin Franklin |
| 04:53.29 | scanline | ~pig slashdot |
| 04:53.33 | | slashdot is 52% pig! |
| 04:56.03 | bzdougg | ~literal nickometer |
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| 05:39.18 | DB7654321 | fiberchunks: Much better -- Thanks :) |
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| 05:59.25 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.53 | TimRiker | huh? "driveable viewable" ? |
| 06:00.15 | proton-onyx2 | TimRiker: you didn't understand that? tsk |
| 06:01.41 | MrApathyCream | tank has nr bubble, but tanker has full control of his tank, including vision |
| 06:02.06 | MrApathyCream | invincible while nr, of course |
| 06:02.57 | MrApathyCream | pretends to coast around, waits till he gets in favorable position, pops out of nr and shoots you, just to go back in nr |
| 06:03.13 | MrApathyCream | CERN[x] |
| 06:07.09 | TimRiker | ahh. probably not sending player updates, just shots. |
| 06:07.41 | TimRiker | server fix coming to insure that shots come from about the last reported player position in about he same direction. |
| 06:08.00 | MrApathyCream | cool, same logic for flag pickups |
| 06:08.14 | TimRiker | I'd bet the only reason that he pops non-nr is that iirc the client sets position based on the shot. |
| 06:08.19 | TimRiker | yep. |
| 06:08.30 | MrApathyCream | good thinkin |
| 06:09.09 | MrApathyCream | disallow shots if no MsgPlayerUpdate in last second? |
| 06:09.34 | TimRiker | probably larger than 1s thinking... |
| 06:09.43 | MrApathyCream | wanna put that in? |
| 06:09.55 | TimRiker | perhaps close to 3s? |
| 06:09.58 | MrApathyCream | i'll do, if you like |
| 06:10.12 | MrApathyCream | 3s, sounds good |
| 06:10.26 | TimRiker | course the next cheat will be to send a player update immediatly before the shot. |
| 06:10.37 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:10.48 | MrApathyCream | does server track nr? |
| 06:11.04 | MrApathyCream | if so, then don't forward shots if was nr anytime in last 3 s |
| 06:11.09 | TimRiker | don't recall. would be simple enough to add though. |
| 06:11.24 | TimRiker | yeah, that makes sense. |
| 06:11.30 | Jormungandr | too bad every software/hardware channel isn't as responsive as this one. |
| 06:11.43 | MrApathyCream | Jormungandr: did you update tonite? |
| 06:11.47 | TimRiker | Jormungandr: heh. ;-) |
| 06:11.49 | MrApathyCream | prolly should |
| 06:11.49 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 06:12.00 | Jormungandr | I will again. do I still need to comment out that code? |
| 06:12.03 | TimRiker | one is updated. |
| 06:12.04 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 06:12.07 | Jormungandr | cool. |
| 06:12.15 | Jormungandr | I'll update when I get home. |
| 06:12.18 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 06:12.30 | Jormungandr | got my sidekick and trying to get the aim2irc.pl stuff. |
| 06:12.54 | Jormungandr | but people in #sidekick on efnet are all asleep. I should /kill them all off the network. :) |
| 06:13.06 | TimRiker | should we add a closed server admins list? or just send security stuff to the bzcops list and allow all admins on that? |
| 06:14.14 | Jormungandr | also, if you guys ever need server space for anything, let me know. I'll be even more generous when we get our fiber in this month. |
| 06:14.44 | Jormungandr | :( |
| 06:15.02 | Jormungandr | I wonder how long it will take them for hw glx. |
| 06:15.08 | *** join/#bzflag vogon (33302e97d9@66-109-195-166.nocharge.com) |
| 06:15.19 | TimRiker | once we do the karma stuff it would probably make sense to move the list server to a faster pipe. |
| 06:15.39 | *** part/#bzflag vogon (33302e97d9@66-109-195-166.nocharge.com) |
| 06:15.52 | Jormungandr | nod... I have a very good mailing list history. running a few lists since 1994. |
| 06:16.27 | Jormungandr | right now we are doing about 8K outgoing lists mails/day |
| 06:16.54 | MrApathyCream | is there a 3d hypotf function? |
| 06:18.23 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: not that I know of, I considered doing a** + b** + c** and checking with speed** |
| 06:18.42 | TimRiker | thus avoiding the sqrt |
| 06:18.48 | MrApathyCream | a, makes sense. |
| 06:18.56 | MrApathyCream | doing that too |
| 06:19.15 | MrApathyCream | const float TankSpeedSquared = ..., even |
| 06:19.46 | TimRiker | perhaps, though the optimized should take care of that one. |
| 06:19.53 | TimRiker | er optimizer |
| 06:20.20 | MrApathyCream | mmmm, yeah i guess your right |
| 06:20.39 | TimRiker | also I wonder if tank speed should include the Z at all. |
| 06:21.08 | proton-onyx2 | TimRiker: i don't think it should |
| 06:21.12 | TimRiker | are we really saying that if you are falling fast, your linear speed slows? |
| 06:21.29 | TimRiker | or if you jump while running you travel slower? |
| 06:21.43 | TimRiker | I can see arguments for both sides. ;-) |
| 06:22.08 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, yeah if you fall from a height, you could go pretty fast |
| 06:22.13 | MrApathyCream | so, perhaps just the x,y |
| 06:22.28 | MrApathyCream | safer, anyway |
| 06:22.30 | TimRiker | need to check what the client does. |
| 06:22.48 | MrApathyCream | I'm sure the client doesn't limit x,y based on z |
| 06:22.53 | TimRiker | add speed display to the HUD someplace and try it out? |
| 06:42.57 | MrApathyCream | hmm, can't avoid sqrt, cause of (V) |
| 06:43.00 | MrApathyCream | oh well |
| 06:48.45 | TimRiker | why again? |
| 06:48.58 | TimRiker | can't we just ** V adjuster? |
| 06:49.24 | MrApathyCream | If we use TankVel * TankVel * VelAd, then we get double vel add |
| 06:49.35 | MrApathyCream | Would need to do TankVel * TankVel * sqrt(VelAd) |
| 06:50.49 | TimRiker | ( TankVel * VelAd ) * ( TankVel * VelAd ) is correct, though, no? and the parens are not important. |
| 06:51.12 | MrApathyCream | Perhaps i'm a mushroom, but it didn't work that way |
| 06:51.29 | MrApathyCream | i went 5x speed up in client, and didn't get kicked |
| 06:51.35 | MrApathyCream | lemmee see... |
| 06:52.22 | TimRiker | hmm... TankVel is the squared one? then just TankVel * VelAd should be right. |
| 06:52.35 | MrApathyCream | TankVel is the constant |
| 06:52.49 | MrApathyCream | well, TankSpeed |
| 06:53.59 | TimRiker | and you are sqaring the others? then I think: ( TankVel * VelAd ) * ( TankVel * VelAd ) is correct. |
| 06:58.10 | MrApathyCream | lemme try |
| 06:59.17 | MrApathyCream | ah, i didn't use VelAd twice |
| 07:03.33 | MrApathyCream | yup, i am a mushroom |
| 07:03.49 | MrApathyCream | i spose people could keep the vel legal, and just update the pos illegally, tho |
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| 07:04.59 | rae | Hey there |
| 07:05.02 | MrApathyCream | hey ma guy |
| 07:05.05 | MrApathyCream | er, mac guy |
| 07:05.13 | MrApathyCream | heh |
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| 07:05.31 | rae | That's me.. |
| 07:06.35 | rae | Actually, my first experience with BZFlag was when I was working at SGI in the mid-1990's.. |
| 07:07.18 | MrApathyCream | is cgl_context ever NULL? |
| 07:07.26 | rae | I was working at Alias|Wavefront, which is owned by SGI. We had lots of Indies and O2's.. |
| 07:07.38 | rae | It shouldn't be. |
| 07:07.50 | rae | That would mean creating the OpenGL context failed. |
| 07:08.09 | rae | The app would not be running in that event. |
| 07:08.17 | rae | Looking at the patch? |
| 07:08.26 | MrApathyCream | tim checked it in |
| 07:08.46 | rae | I sent mail asking about which branch everything is on.. is it v1_7? Or the main trunk? |
| 07:09.23 | MrApathyCream | on 1_7 |
| 07:09.27 | MrApathyCream | that's really the only branch |
| 07:09.32 | MrApathyCream | everything else is deprecated |
| 07:09.37 | rae | okay, good. |
| 07:09.52 | MrApathyCream | hahah -> http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert20030112193211.gif |
| 07:09.56 | rae | Why not just make 1_7 the main branch then? |
| 07:10.04 | MrApathyCream | cvs is cranky |
| 07:10.11 | MrApathyCream | but i think Tim is planning to do that at some point |
| 07:10.53 | rae | cool |
| 07:11.35 | MrApathyCream | What's the state of the make files, etc? |
| 07:11.46 | MrApathyCream | oohooh, forget that.... |
| 07:11.56 | rae | For MacOSX we use Project Builder, which is essentially Jam |
| 07:11.59 | MrApathyCream | Could you please put in mac versions of world caching |
| 07:12.04 | rae | All the project files are just text. |
| 07:12.39 | MrApathyCream | playing.cxx methods: |
| 07:12.50 | MrApathyCream | static std::stringgetCacheDirectoryName() |
| 07:12.50 | rae | I could try. I kind of wanted to make the app run faster -- it's stuck at the desktop resolution. I think people would like to play at like 800x600 instead. |
| 07:12.56 | MrApathyCream | static void cleanWorldCache() |
| 07:13.04 | MrApathyCream | static void markOld(std::string &fileName) |
| 07:13.09 | MrApathyCream | --- |
| 07:13.15 | rae | I'll take a look. |
| 07:15.09 | rae | ls |
| 07:15.17 | rae | [oops -- wrong window..] |
| 07:16.09 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: works then? |
| 07:16.16 | TimRiker | oh, hello rae. ;-) |
| 07:16.27 | MrApathyCream | yes, i was an idiot |
| 07:17.00 | rae | Hi Tim! |
| 07:17.46 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker: should we check in the macosx build stuff? |
| 07:18.04 | TimRiker | I grabbed rae's tarball, looking now. |
| 07:18.17 | MrApathyCream | i spose we don't want rae.pbxuser ;) |
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| 07:18.25 | rae | aww.... |
| 07:19.07 | MrApathyCream | good to know that have a hierarchical file format NOT in xml ;) |
| 07:19.50 | MrApathyCream | rae: do you have an installer for macosx? |
| 07:20.12 | rae | No, I have a disk image. |
| 07:20.14 | TimRiker | rae: I ask for copyright assignment on all code to me. Chris assigned it to me when I took over, and I'll assign it to the next maintainer when I hand off the project. hacking additional copyrights in there makes it more difficult. |
| 07:21.08 | TimRiker | the md5 code is the only exception at present and it's an open license that would allow alternative licenses for bzflag if we chose. |
| 07:21.14 | rae | Sure, no problem. As long as the GPL preamble is in there I am happy. |
| 07:21.49 | rae | Did I put my name in somewhere? Sorry.. it's a habit from my SourceForge project that I admin.. :-) |
| 07:21.53 | TimRiker | I want to be prepared for a closed console release if/when someone is interested in doing it. The console licensing might be facist like on the Xbox. |
| 07:22.18 | TimRiker | I don't mind folks taking credit, just not holding copyright. |
| 07:22.23 | rae | Heh, BZFlag on the XBox. |
| 07:22.32 | rae | Which files did I put it in? I'll go fix 'em.. |
| 07:22.47 | TimRiker | ./macosx/English.lproj/InfoPlist.strings |
| 07:23.23 | TimRiker | also with the builder be happy without the binary files? will it rebuild them? it's best to avoid any binaries in CVS that we can. |
| 07:23.26 | rae | gotcha. I'll stick your name in there pronto |
| 07:23.40 | rae | The only binary files are image data.. |
| 07:23.59 | rae | the icns file is the icon, sorta like a Windows .ico |
| 07:24.12 | TimRiker | ./macosx/.DS_Store ? |
| 07:24.30 | rae | That's pure crap -- shouldn't be in there. |
| 07:24.36 | TimRiker | k. ;-) |
| 07:24.49 | Jormungandr | gotta love .DS_Store files. |
| 07:24.58 | Jormungandr | they are all over my fileserver from my mac |
| 07:25.03 | rae | For some stupid reason, OS X created .DS_Store and .FBC* files and directories with great abandon |
| 07:25.11 | TimRiker | possible to put the pac build stuff under src/platform ? |
| 07:25.25 | rae | I'm contstantly deleting them from CVS elsewhere.. |
| 07:25.52 | rae | is bzflag/package going away? |
| 07:26.02 | TimRiker | ie: the build files. not a problem if that's not the convention, ie: the debian stuff is in debian/ |
| 07:26.05 | rae | I was only guessing that that was the place to put it. |
| 07:26.22 | rae | I can put them anywhere, it's not a problem. |
| 07:27.08 | TimRiker | src/platform/* for platform sources. package/<platform>/* for installer stuff. |
| 07:28.04 | rae | Okay, sure, I'll move the build stuff to src/platform then. |
| 07:28.06 | TimRiker | you've seen the i18n stuff that's in there now? any mac issues with that? |
| 07:28.18 | rae | I haven't honestly looked at it yet. |
| 07:28.23 | TimRiker | np. |
| 07:28.26 | rae | macOS X is Unicode though.. |
| 07:28.32 | rae | Should be okay. |
| 07:28.42 | MrApathyCream | so is win32, works |
| 07:29.06 | TimRiker | we are not yet handling non ascii text, but the strings supporting alternative versions. |
| 07:29.20 | TimRiker | er support. ;-) |
| 07:29.32 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker: if sure would be nice to add accented chars |
| 07:29.39 | MrApathyCream | yeahyeah, patches welcome |
| 07:29.48 | TimRiker | just wondered what the "macosx/English.lproj/InfoPlist.strings" was used for. ;-) |
| 07:29.57 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: heh ;-) |
| 07:30.06 | rae | A lot of that stuff is generated automatically.. |
| 07:30.16 | MrApathyCream | Is there any rhyme or reason to the order of the characters in the font rgb files? |
| 07:30.19 | TimRiker | what I'd like is a portable ttf rendering engine. |
| 07:30.30 | MrApathyCream | scanline volunteered to do it. |
| 07:30.30 | rae | But ya, the idea is to have different .lproj dirs for each language. |
| 07:30.39 | TimRiker | what crs had for lunch that day? |
| 07:30.41 | MrApathyCream | right, scanline? ;) |
| 07:30.42 | scanline | eh... |
| 07:30.50 | scanline | I said I was interested but I'm already way too busy |
| 07:31.00 | TimRiker | rae: could the strings be in the .po files and used from there? |
| 07:31.02 | scanline | I wrote something similar for picogui and jetstream already :) |
| 07:31.14 | rae | Heh, I wrote the TrueType-to-NURBS code for Maya.. |
| 07:31.42 | TimRiker | ~emulate bzflag |
| 07:31.42 | | ACTION sits hacking on blootbot, bzflag, tuxscreen, eLinux, and many other projects and mutters "Patches Welcome!" |
| 07:32.18 | rae | Ya, i don't have to use the "MacOS X" way. |
| 07:33.04 | TimRiker | if that can happen easily, then I'd prefer it. easier to give one file to a translator and have them do all the edits there. |
| 07:33.07 | rae | Btw, is my version numbering the the MacOS X version okay? I added an "rN" (where N= 1, 2, 3, 4, 5) |
| 07:33.15 | rae | Yes, i agree. |
| 07:33.41 | TimRiker | but are those strings all added to the binary? or do you need to compile a different binary for each? |
| 07:33.42 | rae | So the latest app is called "BZFlag 1.7g0r5" |
| 07:33.55 | TimRiker | sure version numbers look fine. |
| 07:33.55 | rae | They are not added. They are used at runtime. |
| 07:34.18 | TimRiker | sweet, then the .po is strongly preferred. |
| 07:34.26 | rae | The user decides which languages they like and in which order. The app tries to use whichever dir is the best fit. |
| 07:34.33 | TimRiker | nice |
| 07:35.22 | rae | NeXT did a lot of work on i18n, and Apple has benefitted from it, along with finally having a real operating system. |
| 07:36.02 | rae | And now Apple has an official, accellerated X11 out. Just to torture myself, I started up the X server, ssh'ed to my Linux box and tried running bzflag remotely. |
| 07:36.14 | rae | It worked! S..l..o..w, but it worked! |
| 07:38.23 | rae | Btw, the multi-button patch should not have any negative effect on other code. I was pretty careful about making sure about that.. |
| 07:38.49 | rae | I changed some code that made assumptions about the size of an array to use sizeof(0 instead. |
| 07:38.52 | rae | er sizeof() |
| 07:39.11 | TimRiker | with glx it's actually pretty fast for me remotely. |
| 07:39.31 | TimRiker | sounds good. |
| 07:39.56 | TimRiker | is BZFlag 1.7g0r5 based on g0 then or g1 ? |
| 07:40.11 | rae | g0 |
| 07:40.32 | TimRiker | cool. thanx for the mac work! I wish I had one here to test on. |
| 07:40.38 | rae | when g1 comes around, it will be 1.7g1r1, 1.7g1r2, 1.7g1r3, 1.7g1r4, .. |
| 07:40.54 | rae | It stil needs work, trust me. The sound is not too great. |
| 07:40.54 | TimRiker | I picked up an old 7500/100 and I'm watching for a cheap g3 card for it. ;-) |
| 07:41.05 | rae | Stutters a bit. i can live with it for now.. |
| 07:41.07 | TimRiker | g1 == development. |
| 07:41.15 | TimRiker | release will likely be g2 |
| 07:41.16 | rae | ah, you're doing the odd/even thing? |
| 07:41.27 | rae | Just like Linus.. |
| 07:41.28 | TimRiker | yep, just the last digit though. |
| 07:41.37 | rae | Why the letter? |
| 07:41.44 | TimRiker | ie: it's g1 though the whole cycle. |
| 07:41.53 | TimRiker | the letter is crs's fault. ;-) |
| 07:42.30 | rae | You should make a clean break to 2.0 at some point, and then use the normal 2.0/2.1 release/dev numbers.. |
| 07:42.53 | rae | But of course you'll need some kick-ass new functionality to warrant the jump! |
| 07:42.59 | MrApathyCream | bah |
| 07:43.01 | TimRiker | after g2 we will likely break the net compatibility and then I think I'll go for kernel like versioning. 2.0.0 or something. text based only so 2.0.0.mac1 would be possible. |
| 07:43.56 | rae | hm |
| 07:44.08 | TimRiker | there would be a separate network version number that's not visible to the users, but determines client/server compatibility. |
| 07:44.17 | TimRiker | everytime we break it we'll bump it. |
| 07:44.40 | TimRiker | and the "Find Servers" will only find "compatible" servers. |
| 07:44.47 | rae | Just like Quake. |
| 07:45.16 | rae | Any plans for recording/playback of games? |
| 07:45.18 | TimRiker | that part is true now, but is based on the 1.x <- x part. so 1.8 servers do not show up in 1.7 clients. |
| 07:45.33 | rae | That usually just uses the network code. |
| 07:45.36 | TimRiker | I'd like to add a network record/playback on the client, yes. |
| 07:46.26 | TimRiker | somethings are ignored from the server at present, like your own shots. |
| 07:46.48 | TimRiker | the client draws then as it sees them, not when the server sends them back. |
| 07:47.33 | TimRiker | so playback would need to "listen" to sent player position and shots, but that's not a big deal. we do similar handling for observer mode. |
| 07:48.14 | TimRiker | I'd like to add multiple "local" players for systems with multiple joysticks etc. just split the screen in 2 or 4 parts. |
| 07:48.35 | rae | Btw, should I create src/platform/macosx or should I just put all the files in the src/platform directory? |
| 07:48.48 | TimRiker | only one copy of stuff would be server->client but 4 clients would be sending to the server. |
| 07:49.09 | TimRiker | how many files? < 10 ? then just that directory is fine. |
| 07:49.10 | rae | I'll end up creating dirs anyway, since that's how Project Builder stores things.. |
| 07:50.26 | TimRiker | so there will be a bzflag.pbproj as well as all the language directoies? or can the .po files be used and have it not create the language dirs? |
| 07:50.51 | MrApathyCream | rae: have a chance to look at world cache stuff? see what needs doing? |
| 07:51.33 | rae | Project Builder created bzflag.proj dir and Englsh.lproj dir. I'll see if I can live without English.lproj; not sure what it will do if I nuke it. |
| 07:51.44 | rae | MrApathyCream: nope, not yet. |
| 07:51.47 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 07:51.55 | rae | Still trying to fit my code into the right place. :) |
| 07:52.15 | TimRiker | do it now! ;-) jk |
| 07:52.27 | rae | I think i'll rename as many of my files to start with 'Mac' as possible, too, to fit better. |
| 07:52.30 | rae | haha |
| 07:52.40 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: "You want it all, but you can't have it" |
| 07:52.42 | rae | Is it a big item in the todo list? |
| 07:53.20 | TimRiker | not really. just an optimization. |
| 07:53.34 | TimRiker | avoids having to dl the world on reconnect. |
| 07:54.31 | TimRiker | someplace in the 2.0 version we'll add sending textures, meshes, sound clips, etc. to the cache. |
| 07:55.34 | MrApathyCream | still waiting for german,dutch translations |
| 07:55.50 | MrApathyCream | redneck.... others? |
| 07:56.02 | proton-onyx2 | hooo boy |
| 07:56.10 | proton-onyx2 | bzflag on the viz screen...beautiful |
| 07:56.35 | TimRiker | viz? |
| 07:57.30 | TimRiker | we had a lan party and ran bzflag on a 6' projector screen. it was cool. |
| 07:57.52 | TimRiker | need a "follow the winner" observer mode. ;-) |
| 07:57.59 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:58.10 | MrApathyCream | keepin ya busy Jormungandr? |
| 07:58.30 | Jormungandr | definitely :) |
| 07:58.53 | TimRiker | I'd suggest that "follow the winner" be the default and then you can still walk through players. |
| 07:58.56 | Jormungandr | it'd be nice to have more options in makefile like just "make bzfs" |
| 07:59.08 | TimRiker | patches welcome. ;-) |
| 07:59.12 | proton-onyx2 | TimRiker: passive stereo visualisation screen |
| 07:59.30 | TimRiker | ohh! now that does sound cool! |
| 07:59.47 | Jormungandr | if I could program, I would definitely work on this project. |
| 08:01.45 | MrApathyCream | you have worked on it... the conf file is nice |
| 08:02.14 | MrApathyCream | Jormungandr: if your looking for something to help on :):):) |
| 08:02.28 | MrApathyCream | you could run through the man pages and see if there's stuff that needs to be updated |
| 08:02.46 | MrApathyCream | prolly /flag reset unused |
| 08:02.49 | MrApathyCream | -conf |
| 08:02.55 | MrApathyCream | others? |
| 08:03.27 | Jormungandr | I can probably do that. |
| 08:03.35 | Jormungandr | I am pretty good with writing, in general. |
| 08:04.01 | Jormungandr | I'll prolly bug the crap out of you guys for what's new. |
| 08:04.17 | rae | Is the Mac the only place where you only run BZFlag by double-clicking? i.e. no cmd-line options, etc? I guess under windows you can put flags into shortcuts, again a lˆ Quake. |
| 08:04.31 | Jormungandr | the newest cvs is running on dragon.org |
| 08:04.37 | Jormungandr | seems to be okay. |
| 08:04.47 | Jormungandr | so far anyway :) |
| 08:04.47 | MrApathyCream | rae, bzflag the client app is usually double click accessed |
| 08:05.05 | MrApathyCream | any cmd line options for it, can go in the bzc file |
| 08:05.19 | MrApathyCream | Jormungandr: cool |
| 08:05.40 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: how does one do a cvs diff between last release and now? |
| 08:05.57 | MrApathyCream | heh BZFlag, TimRiker, ???? |
| 08:06.04 | MrApathyCream | No longer BZFlag? |
| 08:06.05 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 08:06.34 | rae | "cvs diff -r <release-tag>" |
| 08:07.56 | MrApathyCream | v1_7g0 |
| 08:09.18 | TimRiker | are there any options that can not be in the config file? |
| 08:09.31 | Jormungandr | hrm |
| 08:09.34 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: heh. variety. ;-) |
| 08:09.36 | Jormungandr | probably version |
| 08:09.50 | sussudio | goddamn XXX crapboy |
| 08:10.21 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker: config file can have anything |
| 08:10.24 | TimRiker | sussudio: cheating? |
| 08:10.30 | sussudio | how do i do a ban on jzaun for the entire 172.0.0.0 ? |
| 08:10.33 | sussudio | TimRiker: very |
| 08:10.45 | MrApathyCream | *.*.*.* ;) |
| 08:10.47 | Jormungandr | 172.*.*.* |
| 08:10.49 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 08:10.52 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: I meant the client config file. |
| 08:11.01 | sussudio | Jormungandr: no that doesnt work |
| 08:11.07 | scanline | heh |
| 08:11.21 | scanline | sussudio: I don't think anyone actually uses it, since it's hard to actually use it to improve your score |
| 08:11.29 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker: Ah, client, dunno about that |
| 08:12.34 | Jormungandr | sussudio.. that's how it's SUPPOSED to work, at least how I understood it. is it broken? |
| 08:14.09 | MrApathyCream | wow this is painful... How about seeing all the checkin comments since last release? |
| 08:14.56 | rae | Why are there two Ping.cxx files? One in net and one in common? |
| 08:15.04 | proton-onyx2 | rae: "legacy" |
| 08:15.06 | rae | Which one wins? |
| 08:15.08 | rae | :-) |
| 08:15.33 | rae | I just realized I have to be careful on updates. i guess everyone's Makefiles are updated by people who add new files? |
| 08:15.54 | rae | I'll have to track new files and add them to the pbproj. |
| 08:16.24 | MrApathyCream | in theory |
| 08:17.46 | proton-onyx2 | i enjoy cheese in my coffee |
| 08:17.57 | rae | I'm guessing that net/Ping.cxx is the "real" one, right? |
| 08:18.05 | MrApathyCream | have at it, as long as you're off the nuts |
| 08:18.18 | MrApathyCream | think so |
| 08:19.03 | proton-onyx2 | mwa ha |
| 08:19.15 | proton-onyx2 | combined together to give... the super, er, being |
| 08:19.52 | DB7654321 | Mommy? |
| 08:20.33 | proton-onyx2 | %C8MUFFINS |
| 08:20.52 | rae | Wow, it's 3:20 am.. |
| 08:20.53 | *** join/#bzflag M_A_C (dbrosius@209.195.250.193) |
| 08:21.03 | M_A_C | east coast? |
| 08:21.07 | rae | Ya, Toronto |
| 08:21.09 | TimRiker | M_A_C: what are you trying to do? |
| 08:21.11 | proton-onyx2 | and 1:20 am |
| 08:21.12 | DB7654321 | Sat Jan 11 02:21:12 CST 2003 |
| 08:21.18 | TimRiker | <MrApathyCream> wow this is painful |
| 08:21.20 | DB7654321 | Too late...er...early :( |
| 08:21.25 | M_A_C | TimRiker: See the changes since last release |
| 08:21.59 | DB7654321 | I've noticed that occasionally our server (bzflag.hashmark.net) disappears from the server list, or, shows 0 players when there are more.. WHy is that? |
| 08:22.06 | TimRiker | rae: we try to add files to the unix and win makes, we could try to add to the mac as well if we know where. ;-) |
| 08:22.31 | TimRiker | cvs diff -r v1_7g0 does not work for ya? |
| 08:22.44 | MrApathyCream | It does but there are a billion changes |
| 08:22.48 | MrApathyCream | copyright, et al. |
| 08:23.19 | rae | I noticed new files with "Bundle" in their names. Also ShotUpdate and PlayerState -- these are all new? |
| 08:23.23 | TimRiker | ah yeah. ;-) normally I wait for a version release to update the copyrights, but somebody just had to go and do it didn't they? ;-) |
| 08:23.27 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 08:23.41 | rae | Hey, when is the 10th anniversary of BZFlag? is there a specific date? |
| 08:23.46 | MrApathyCream | past |
| 08:23.49 | MrApathyCream | last week |
| 08:23.52 | rae | rats. |
| 08:23.56 | TimRiker | huh? really? |
| 08:24.04 | MrApathyCream | my understanding |
| 08:24.12 | MrApathyCream | don't recall who told me that |
| 08:25.04 | TimRiker | http://bzflag.org/wiki/ProjectHistory says 92, but not when. |
| 08:25.25 | MrApathyCream | crs monitors bzbb, could ask there |
| 08:26.00 | DB7654321 | Is there any reason why a 1.7g1 client wouldn't respond to a clientquery, even when there is no lag? |
| 08:26.05 | Jormungandr | reminds me... 10 year birthday party for dragon.org in october of this year. |
| 08:26.06 | TimRiker | earliest "release" I have is 1997-03-24 for 1.5a |
| 08:26.11 | MrApathyCream | DB7654321: hack? |
| 08:26.19 | DB7654321 | That's what I'm concerned about |
| 08:26.48 | MrApathyCream | although that doesn't make sense, as why would someone not respond |
| 08:26.53 | DB7654321 | I messaged the guy about it, he said it was on OSX, but, offered no more details |
| 08:27.07 | DB7654321 | TimRiker: Would you rather it be his_prosthetic_penis? ;) |
| 08:27.13 | proton-onyx2 | crs said "first week in jan, 93" |
| 08:27.19 | proton-onyx2 | on bzbb |
| 08:27.27 | proton-onyx2 | DB7654321: sure ;) |
| 08:27.33 | DB7654321 | Ok then! ;) |
| 08:27.36 | TimRiker | proton-onyx2: cool. |
| 08:27.38 | rae | DB..whatever: On MacOS X? |
| 08:27.47 | his_prosthetic_p | Doh |
| 08:27.51 | his_prosthetic_p | rae: Yeah |
| 08:28.30 | rae | cmd-line version or bundled, double-clickable version? Not that it matters --- I can't think of why there would be a problem.. |
| 08:29.16 | HPP | Not sure -- I asked where he got it...He said bzflag.org. At the time, I didn't think g1 existed (the newest version listed for OSX is e6, right?) |
| 08:29.36 | TimRiker | rae: more people would use the double click version, yes? |
| 08:29.44 | TimRiker | what's bundled? both? |
| 08:30.18 | TimRiker | HPP: rae has put out new mac releases, they are not yet on SF. |
| 08:30.19 | HPP | Also, I was unable to kill him with SR -- I was over him (directly) for several seconds -- nothing. However, I could shoot him |
| 08:30.23 | HPP | It just seemed odd |
| 08:30.27 | HPP | Ah |
| 08:30.46 | rae | Yes, they would. |
| 08:30.52 | TimRiker | rae: I also gave you "release" privs, so you can now upload a newer mac image to SF. |
| 08:30.57 | rae | 1.7g0 has been on VersionTracker for a couple of weeks.. |
| 08:31.22 | MrApathyCream | HPP was he on the ground? |
| 08:31.35 | rae | I've seen a few quirky things with the Mac client. |
| 08:31.44 | HPP | MrApathyCream: On a building, the same level as I was |
| 08:32.00 | MrApathyCream | clients older than e6 can not be SR'ed above ground |
| 08:32.04 | rae | Just tonight I saw shots not hit that really, really should have. Later I realized that I think the tank was being drawn full size but the user had the tony flag.. |
| 08:32.07 | rae | er tiny |
| 08:32.21 | MrApathyCream | tony flag :) |
| 08:32.25 | rae | heh |
| 08:32.49 | rae | Puts takn in a white suit and starts playin "Saturday Night Fever"... |
| 08:32.59 | HPP | hehe |
| 08:33.01 | rae | s/takn/tank |
| 08:33.34 | TimRiker | "I'd like to thank my producer and ...." |
| 08:33.42 | HPP | It was very odd -- I sent the CLIENTQUERY, to which all other clients responded, but, nothing from him. I asked him about it, and suddenly his client responded (about a minute afterwards) |
| 08:34.15 | MrApathyCream | <HPP>: still there's no reason why a cheater wouldn't respond to clientquery. |
| 08:34.18 | rae | Maybe a firewall issue? nah, it's all on the same port, right? |
| 08:34.36 | HPP | True.. |
| 08:34.45 | TimRiker | on the client end it's two different ports one for udp and one for tcp. |
| 08:34.48 | HPP | I dunno. He wasn't flying or anything so I didn't ban him |
| 08:35.02 | rae | TimRiker: I'll put up a release once I've got everything checked into CVS.. |
| 08:35.02 | TimRiker | er, did I change that in 1.7 too? I can't recall. |
| 08:35.20 | rae | Hey weird, this IRC client expands IRC nicks autoamtically.. |
| 08:35.32 | rae | MtApath: testing |
| 08:35.37 | rae | hm, nope, never mind. |
| 08:35.39 | MrApathyCream | tab? |
| 08:35.47 | rae | MrApathyCream: ah ha! ya. |
| 08:35.50 | HPP | Oh, oh, That's another thing -- Can we get tabcomplete in BZ? :D |
| 08:35.52 | TimRiker | post g2 I'll change playerids and net reconnect and client ports. |
| 08:36.01 | MrApathyCream | <HPP> for nicks? |
| 08:36.01 | TimRiker | HPP: patches welcome. |
| 08:36.04 | HPP | hehe |
| 08:36.14 | HPP | You wouldn't want any code I would write :P |
| 08:36.26 | HPP | MrApathyCream: Yeah |
| 08:36.45 | HPP | ..And, a way to /ban <username>, fetching the IP automatically |
| 08:36.50 | MrApathyCream | would be easy, except people would be cranky about not jumping |
| 08:36.56 | HPP | Ah |
| 08:36.57 | HPP | yes |
| 08:36.59 | TimRiker | means no jumping at that point, or do you want completion to also jump? |
| 08:37.01 | HPP | Didn't consider that |
| 08:37.17 | HPP | Maybe some other key to complete ;) |
| 08:37.35 | MrApathyCream | ctrl right arrow? |
| 08:37.44 | MrApathyCream | or is that move to the end |
| 08:37.47 | MrApathyCream | ;) |
| 08:38.03 | TimRiker | does anyone play with a joystick? I'll have to hack on that to get multi-local support. |
| 08:38.15 | MrApathyCream | cappy, maybe |
| 08:38.52 | HPP | hehe. I'm hitting the sack. Night :) |
| 08:39.35 | rae | gn HPP |
| 08:39.41 | MrApathyCream | Jormungandr: here's a list probably incomplete of new stuff. |
| 08:39.41 | MrApathyCream | * tanks driving to fast are kicked - Dave Brosius |
| 08:39.41 | MrApathyCream | * remove non-printable characters in callsign in server - Frank Thilo |
| 08:39.41 | MrApathyCream | * +f sw{5} syntax to add a bunch of flags - Dave Brosius |
| 08:39.41 | MrApathyCream | * tanks which jump too high get kicked - Dave Brosius |
| 08:39.41 | MrApathyCream | * server drops bogus shots (anti cheating) - Tim Riker, Dave Brosius, Frank Thilo |
| 08:39.43 | MrApathyCream | * i18n support in client - Dave Brosius |
| 08:39.45 | MrApathyCream | * Optional config file interface for bzfs settings - Dave Brosius |
| 08:39.47 | MrApathyCream | * inline editing of text fields (<- ->) Dave Brosius, Frank Thilo |
| 08:39.49 | MrApathyCream | * extend admin command -> /flag reset unused - Dave Brosius |
| 08:40.38 | MrApathyCream | if you can see where anything important should go in man pages, kul |
| 08:46.30 | Jormungandr | pasted those into txt file. |
| 08:47.15 | Jormungandr | mmmmmmm |
| 08:47.20 | Jormungandr | I should consider sleep. |
| 08:47.23 | Jormungandr | been a long day. |
| 08:47.45 | Jormungandr | I got the coolest geek toy today. |
| 08:47.52 | MrApathyCream | rae wishes he could go to sleep, but is instead feverishly working on Mac caching |
| 08:47.56 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 08:48.37 | rae | I just made a successful build with files in new locations. I'm feeling awful tired now though, so I won't commit until tomorrow. |
| 08:48.46 | Jormungandr | good idea |
| 08:48.53 | rae | I joined dragon -- interesting map! |
| 08:49.01 | rae | Is there a way to get outside and see the sky?? |
| 08:49.05 | Jormungandr | corndawg did a great job on that. |
| 08:49.06 | Jormungandr | yes. |
| 08:49.31 | Jormungandr | if you go to the teleport that is 1/3 the way up one of the sides, it takes you to roof |
| 08:49.35 | Jormungandr | or you can climb up. |
| 08:50.02 | MrApathyCream | how bout tank spawning on buildings... too much of an advantage? |
| 08:50.15 | Jormungandr | that might be fun |
| 08:50.15 | Proton_Man | TimRiker: i had joystick support in my lge-port |
| 08:50.17 | rae | Well, time for bed. gn all. Btw, if you are curious, I have a web journal up at http://rae.lj.samurai.com/ and a bzflag-specific on at http://bzflag.lj.samurai.com/ |
| 08:50.38 | MrApathyCream | rae: nite, --> thanks |
| 08:50.58 | Jormungandr | another cool idea would be definable flag spawn zones, altitudes.. get more flag on roof of building style maps. |
| 08:51.09 | MrApathyCream | there's a patch on sf that does just that! |
| 08:51.17 | Jormungandr | sf? |
| 08:51.23 | Jormungandr | very cool |
| 08:51.30 | Jormungandr | sourceforge? |
| 08:51.31 | MrApathyCream | yes, quite old tho, so probably needs a good deal of work |
| 08:51.35 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 08:51.36 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 08:52.03 | sussudio | i fcking hate it when dorkwads on ducati refuse to leave my flag alone when it's 2 against 1 |
| 08:52.10 | sussudio | the flag should just disappear |
| 08:52.24 | MrApathyCream | sussudio: my grandchildren read this... pls tone down |
| 08:53.24 | sussudio | yeah they'll really learn shortened bad words fro irc. |
| 08:53.40 | sussudio | and not from tv or anything...... or their parents or school chums. |
| 08:54.43 | MrApathyCream | still.... |
| 08:55.09 | MrApathyCream | they much prefer your bunny stories |
| 08:55.19 | Jormungandr | I have a sensitivity to vulgarity as I get older. |
| 08:55.59 | sussudio | i find george w bush on tv vulgar, but he wont go away |
| 08:56.12 | Jormungandr | he's like a fungus, sussudio. |
| 08:56.12 | MrApathyCream | just on tv? |
| 08:56.30 | sussudio | americans wont come near here anymore since the pie accidents..... |
| 08:56.37 | Jormungandr | you're just seeing pics of the fungus... we can smell it from here. |
| 08:56.40 | Jormungandr | ;) |
| 08:56.57 | MrApathyCream | sussudio: so you were right about the dutch trans.... still waiting |
| 08:57.01 | sussudio | well clinton did.... he got poffertjes |
| 08:57.27 | sussudio | poffertjes = sorta miniature pancakes |
| 08:57.36 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 08:58.19 | sussudio | i'm still trying to figure out how to translate 'dithering' |
| 08:58.32 | MrApathyCream | You can just leave it if you like |
| 08:58.43 | Jormungandr | it's wierd when people find your private irc server and just start hangin out there. |
| 08:59.28 | Jormungandr | I have a huge craving for coffee, but it should wait til morning. |
| 09:00.04 | sussudio | have coffee now. morning will come. |
| 09:00.08 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 09:00.31 | Jormungandr | I make very strong coffee, so morning would come, and I'd be STILL awake. |
| 09:01.14 | sussudio | dithering; he process of converting an image to use a very small number of predetermined pixel types, by forming patterns of these pixels. For instance, given red and blue pixels, we can generate magenta-like areas in the output image by placing red and blue pixels next to each other. |
| 09:01.24 | sussudio | yeah, that helped....... |
| 09:01.39 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 09:02.43 | MrApathyCream | dithering exchanges a decrease in resolution for an increase in color |
| 09:03.39 | Jormungandr | they are finally putting me on a slightly better schedule.. I will get thur-friday off instead of wed-thur, and I will work 4-11:30pm, instead of 5-12:30am |
| 09:03.56 | Jormungandr | I might actually get to see some of my friends again. |
| 09:04.12 | MrApathyCream | ibot, friends? |
| 09:04.12 | | i haven't a clue, MrApathyCream |
| 09:04.23 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 09:05.05 | Jormungandr | it's bad enough, I don't see my family except weekend days, and wed-thu evenings. |
| 09:06.00 | Jormungandr | sleep for me... I'll start working on the man page stuff tomorrow, MAC |
| 09:06.07 | Jormungandr | nite all. |
| 09:06.08 | Jormungandr | & |
| 09:06.50 | MrApathyCream | cu |
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| 09:23.54 | MrApathyCream | rapid Fire (+F): Shoots mo'e offen. Shells hoof it faster but not as far. |
| 09:39.53 | sussudio | :-| |
| 09:40.38 | sussudio | snelvuur (+F): Schiet vaker. Kogels gaan sneller maar niet zo ver. |
| 11:00.36 | TimRiker | Hamster_AFK: how do you get under the two sides in bridge too far (other than lag) |
| 11:02.09 | Proton_Man | sleepageness |
| 11:07.21 | TimRiker | ibot botmail for Secret_Hamster: bridge too far needs a way to get underneath, or it need to get filled in. flags collect there. |
| 11:07.38 | TimRiker | nite |
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| 15:13.19 | calico | ibot seen [dmp] |
| 15:13.23 | | [dmp] <~somewhere@0x50c4919b.adsl-fixed.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 3d 16h 12m 23s ago, saying: '(perhaps people should try to make smaller teams)'. |
| 15:13.50 | calico | lol i was here when he said that |
| 15:14.46 | sussudio | weeee |
| 15:14.51 | sussudio | you can go red now calicopiggy |
| 15:14.57 | sussudio | i was #1 |
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| 15:21.12 | sussudio | ~ducatictf |
| 15:25.51 | calico | where are all my how teammates!!!! |
| 15:25.56 | calico | n:P |
| 15:26.13 | calico | i always hit n before typing |
| 15:29.01 | bzdoug__ | is a .RGB file like a .RAW file? |
| 15:29.10 | bzdoug__ | photoshop wont open RGB files... |
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| 16:01.09 | calico | chestal you around |
| 16:04.53 | calico | HoW just defeated BZE 9-1 in a league match fyi |
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| 16:23.39 | sussudio | Communication error joining game [Rejected]. |
| 16:23.40 | sussudio | what's that? |
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| 16:42.39 | lupinator | maybe another player logged in with your name |
| 16:42.53 | sussudio | nope..... |
| 16:43.04 | sussudio | i logged in with 'booger' and i only saw a 'goober' on there |
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| 17:56.40 | bzdoug__ | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 17:57.13 | Patlabor221 | hey |
| 18:00.06 | Jormungandr | hrm... what is best way to create/edit a man page? |
| 18:00.30 | bzdoug__ | notepad |
| 18:00.53 | Jormungandr | have you looked at raw man page code? :) |
| 18:01.02 | bzdoug__ | no |
| 18:01.49 | Jormungandr | you'd prolly not suggest note pad if you did. :) |
| 18:01.56 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 18:02.14 | Jormungandr | I prolly could, though. |
| 18:02.29 | Jormungandr | it's not much different than html. |
| 18:02.32 | Patlabor221 | yeah doug, it's "specal" |
| 18:02.37 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 18:02.51 | Patlabor221 | there are some things that will make man pages |
| 18:02.57 | Patlabor221 | tho I don't know what they are |
| 18:03.08 | Patlabor221 | but I have heard that people have used them |
| 18:03.15 | Patlabor221 | and that there is HTML2MAN |
| 18:03.27 | Patlabor221 | and MAN2HTML |
| 18:03.38 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 18:03.43 | Jormungandr | I have man2html |
| 18:03.53 | Jormungandr | don't have other one though. |
| 18:04.07 | bzdoug__ | ~google html2man |
| 18:05.43 | Jormungandr | I'm waiting for my coffee to cool. I am so NOT awake. |
| 18:07.07 | sussudio | bah, use heroin |
| 18:07.25 | sussudio | doug is kentucky's dope dealer, he should have some |
| 18:07.28 | sussudio | maybe morphine |
| 18:07.30 | Jormungandr | I am fortunately not having an ibuprofin morning :) |
| 18:07.55 | Jormungandr | mmmmmmm coffee. |
| 18:08.07 | Jormungandr | light city roast, full of caffeine! |
| 18:08.38 | Jormungandr | morning, jzaun |
| 18:09.05 | Patlabor221 | long thow from where you are man |
| 18:09.17 | sussudio | it's a good way to kill your liver though |
| 18:09.57 | sussudio | hmm let's see... naproxen 500mg |
| 18:10.05 | sussudio | asprin 500 |
| 18:10.12 | Jormungandr | well, there is no html2man on redhat, or in rpms. |
| 18:10.12 | bzdoug__ | 'lo jzaun |
| 18:10.17 | sussudio | arthrotec |
| 18:10.23 | jzaun | mornin Jormungandr |
| 18:10.23 | jzaun | Patlabor221: yah, true |
| 18:10.23 | jzaun | I could just mail ya one |
| 18:10.23 | Jormungandr | so I will do it old fashioned way. |
| 18:10.34 | sussudio | tylenol + codeine |
| 18:10.36 | sussudio | weeeee |
| 18:11.10 | sussudio | ibot spell docter |
| 18:11.14 | | possible spellings for docter: doter docker doctor |
| 18:11.16 | jzaun | 'lo bzdoug__ |
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| 18:12.42 | bzdoug__ | Mmmm, missing music on my mp3 playa |
| 18:12.54 | bzdoug__ | it dont show up, but I can listen to it |
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| 18:22.31 | Jormungandr | I had my itunes pointed to my windows desktop share, so I am just now pointing it to my fileserver (same music), cuz I keep rebooting other pc into linux. |
| 18:23.10 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 18:23.38 | Jormungandr | takes a while for itunes to sort through 7000 songs over a windows share. |
| 18:23.43 | bzdoug__ | indeed |
| 18:23.50 | bzdoug__ | classical music? |
| 18:23.57 | Jormungandr | a bit of everything. |
| 18:23.59 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 18:24.12 | Jormungandr | pop, classical, electronic, new age, etc. |
| 18:24.19 | Jormungandr | oh |
| 18:24.19 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 18:24.24 | Jormungandr | and a LOT of bluegrass :) |
| 18:24.31 | bzdoug__ | eh? |
| 18:24.35 | bzdoug__ | bluegrass? |
| 18:24.46 | bzdoug__ | where you located? |
| 18:25.03 | Jormungandr | I got re-hooked on bluegrass after "O Brother Where Art Thou" movie. |
| 18:25.05 | Jormungandr | live in AZ |
| 18:25.08 | Jormungandr | grew up in WI |
| 18:25.19 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 18:25.25 | Jormungandr | I have this thing for folk musics |
| 18:25.28 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 18:25.32 | Jormungandr | and bluegrass definitely fits. |
| 18:25.36 | Jormungandr | it's really good. |
| 18:25.39 | fiberchunks | hick ;-) |
| 18:25.44 | bzdoug__ | bah |
| 18:25.55 | Jormungandr | ray stanley's version of O Death will give anyone goosebumps. |
| 18:26.02 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 18:26.11 | Jormungandr | it's getting very popular. |
| 18:26.31 | Jormungandr | CMT had a whole bluegrass weekend this last year... I was glued to the tube.... and that's rare for me. |
| 18:26.47 | fiberchunks | I don't have enough (actually, I think I might have 1 full cd of it), as I'm unfamiliar with the artists |
| 18:26.59 | bzdoug__ | hahaha |
| 18:27.01 | bzdoug__ | :) |
| 18:27.21 | fiberchunks | most of my exposure to it came when I lived in GA for 3 years |
| 18:27.22 | Jormungandr | I have a lot... but I am not fond of all of it... some of the flag and scruggs stuff was nothing more than a beverly hillbillies advertisement. |
| 18:27.30 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 18:27.43 | Jormungandr | I have a lot of gillian welch and alison kraus |
| 18:28.11 | Jormungandr | and, even if people don't like bluegrass, most like Nickel Creek. |
| 18:28.12 | sussudio | evil woooomaaaaaan |
| 18:28.15 | Jormungandr | because it's not typical. |
| 18:28.20 | bzdoug__ | hah |
| 18:28.25 | bzdoug__ | I have nickle creek |
| 18:28.32 | Jormungandr | good stuff |
| 18:28.32 | bzdoug__ | yup |
| 18:29.15 | Jormungandr | they had the guy from "Toad The Wet Sprocket" sing with them on a song or two. |
| 18:29.18 | Jormungandr | very good |
| 18:29.55 | bzdoug__ | hm |
| 18:30.11 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 18:30.24 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 18:30.32 | bzdoug__ | I still have cds of napster mp3s |
| 18:30.33 | Jormungandr | I have a dc hub, but I haven't connected to it in weeks. |
| 18:30.38 | Jormungandr | I should. |
| 18:30.46 | bzdoug__ | ugh, with all the pops and clicks from downloading over a ISDN |
| 18:31.00 | Jormungandr | pops and clicks? |
| 18:31.03 | sussudio | downloading wont give you pops and clicks dumbo |
| 18:31.05 | Jormungandr | streaming? |
| 18:31.24 | sussudio | napster mp3s were just CRAP |
| 18:31.28 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 18:31.37 | bzdoug__ | yea |
| 18:31.40 | sussudio | encoded with xing or blade on a crap cdrom |
| 18:31.46 | fiberchunks | anyone have a good p2p for linux (that ISNT limewire?) |
| 18:31.54 | bzdoug__ | kazaa |
| 18:32.04 | sussudio | fiberchunks: giFT, if you can stand the superior acting buttholes in the channel |
| 18:32.08 | Jormungandr | that's why I like itunes... I rip my stuff at 192, now. used to rip at 160. |
| 18:32.14 | fiberchunks | giFT? |
| 18:32.28 | bzdoug__ | my dad has dual 60 gig drives on his mac |
| 18:32.34 | fiberchunks | danke |
| 18:32.47 | sussudio | you can only get it through cvs though. |
| 18:32.51 | Jormungandr | I have a 60 and a 40. |
| 18:32.57 | sussudio | and the only actually working client it giFTcurs |
| 18:33.03 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 18:33.05 | Jormungandr | and my fileserver has a 45, and it's getting full. |
| 18:33.09 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 18:33.14 | Jormungandr | my desktop pc has a 120gb and a 10gb. |
| 18:33.19 | bzdoug__ | I have a 40 and I have 1 gig left |
| 18:33.22 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 18:33.25 | sussudio | Total of 58.174.139.089 Bytes in 9064 Files |
| 18:33.28 | bzdoug__ | I need to get another drive |
| 18:33.37 | bzdoug__ | sussudio: thats an ip address |
| 18:33.46 | sussudio | nuh. |
| 18:33.47 | Jormungandr | we have a lot of stuff distributed over 5 computers in the house. |
| 18:34.01 | bzdoug__ | bah, no such ip |
| 18:34.04 | sussudio | 1) there cant be zeroes in an ip address 2) ip addresses don't say "bytes" |
| 18:34.11 | Jormungandr | we each have a PC desktop, and I have a mac, and then we have our fileserver. |
| 18:34.17 | sussudio | .089 wouldnt work |
| 18:34.20 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 18:34.30 | fiberchunks | 3) europeans use . instead of , for seperators |
| 18:34.37 | Jormungandr | and my laptop, which I haven't used much lately. |
| 18:34.41 | Jormungandr | that'll change soon. |
| 18:34.47 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 18:34.51 | sussudio | 4) it's my mp3 list maker, so i will use . if i want to |
| 18:34.58 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 18:36.16 | Jormungandr | cats are going through turns of seeking attention. |
| 18:36.26 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 18:36.29 | sussudio | -|- (Electric_Light_Orchestra)_Tightrope.mp3 (6,100,765 bytes 160kbps Stereo 5mins 6secs Genre:Progressive Rock Year:1976 Album:A New World Record |
| 18:36.31 | *** join/#bzflag Big_Barrel (Big_Barrel@AC86F3D5.ipt.aol.com) |
| 18:36.35 | sussudio | w00t |
| 18:36.44 | Big_Barrel | chestal r u there? |
| 18:37.03 | fiberchunks | can someone tell me what the hell (No URN on server, waiting for overlap) means? |
| 18:37.13 | bzdoug__ | no |
| 18:37.22 | sussudio | urn? |
| 18:37.34 | fiberchunks | in the context of p2p apps |
| 18:37.36 | Jormungandr | that's greek to me. |
| 18:37.37 | sussudio | ~google for no urn on server |
| 18:37.37 | bzdoug__ | oh |
| 18:38.02 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 18:38.03 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@planetg.virtualgibbs.com) |
| 18:38.09 | bzdoug__ | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 18:38.14 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 18:38.18 | fiberchunks | cool -- is there a listing somewhere's of the public commands for ibot? |
| 18:38.19 | Big_Barrel | CHESTAL???? |
| 18:38.27 | sussudio | *shrug* |
| 18:38.28 | bzdoug__ | fiberchunks: ~help |
| 18:38.31 | bzdoug__ | fiberchunks: lol |
| 18:38.32 | Big_Barrel | is anyone an admin on 59999??? |
| 18:38.35 | Patlabor221 | type ibot help |
| 18:38.35 | sussudio | ~+status |
| 18:38.36 | | Since Wed Jan 8 10:31:51 2003, there have been 25 modifications and 152 questions and 70 dunnos and 6 morons and 219 commands. I have been awake for 3d 8h 6m 44s this session, and currently reference 84324 factoids. I'm using about 13100 kB of memory. |
| 18:38.51 | bzdoug__ | Big_Barrel: nope |
| 18:39.00 | fiberchunks | ~help |
| 18:39.02 | bzdoug__ | wow |
| 18:39.06 | bzdoug__ | alot of factoids |
| 18:39.20 | Patlabor221 | I bet most of then are about pigs |
| 18:39.28 | sussudio | ~listkeys pig |
| 18:39.43 | sussudio | ~harleypig |
| 18:39.43 | | i heard harleypig is rumored to not be "all up there" |
| 18:39.48 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 18:40.07 | sussudio | ~jargon run like a pig |
| 18:40.08 | | methinks jargon run like a pig is v. To run very slowly on given hardware, said of software. Distinct from hog. |
| 18:40.30 | bzdoug__ | ~jargon cool |
| 18:40.57 | sussudio | ~slick |
| 18:40.58 | | Shut up, Doug. |
| 18:41.25 | fiberchunks | well, see now, none of those are listed in ~help |
| 18:42.37 | bzdoug__ | cuz they are factiods |
| 18:43.04 | fiberchunks | splain please |
| 18:44.07 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 18:44.16 | bzdoug__ | ~factoids |
| 18:44.20 | bzdoug__ | ~factoid |
| 18:44.21 | | extra, extra, read all about it, factoid is $factoid |
| 18:44.27 | bzdoug__ | bah |
| 18:45.30 | Jormungandr | it's gunna take weeks to find a copy of the newest aim2irc.pl :( |
| 18:45.39 | fiberchunks | who developed ibot (or is it some generic bot?) |
| 18:45.48 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: whats that? |
| 18:45.56 | Jormungandr | I am inches away from /whokill-ing all of #sidekick on efnet. |
| 18:45.56 | bzdoug__ | fiberchunks: hmm, its on sourceforge |
| 18:46.09 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: eh? |
| 18:46.10 | Jormungandr | it connects to irc and aim at same time |
| 18:46.16 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 18:46.28 | Jormungandr | you add it's aim account to your instant messenger, and you can chat to irc channel on the go. |
| 18:46.29 | fiberchunks | well, I assume that someone here planted ibot - was it Tim, or someone else? |
| 18:46.31 | bzdoug__ | and send stuff between? |
| 18:46.36 | bzdoug__ | fiberchunks: tim |
| 18:46.46 | fiberchunks | k, thx - I'll quiz him when he's on again |
| 18:46.49 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: cool |
| 18:46.56 | bzdoug__ | fiberchunks: infobot.org I think |
| 18:46.58 | Jormungandr | I have my sidekick (www.danger.com) and i want to be able to chat on a specific channel with it. |
| 18:47.07 | fiberchunks | bzdoug__: thx again |
| 18:47.14 | bzdoug__ | fiberchunks: but tim and someone was working on an updated version, whitch is this bot |
| 18:47.16 | bzdoug__ | ~author |
| 18:47.22 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: cool |
| 18:47.41 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 18:47.49 | Jormungandr | take a look at the flash demo on danger |
| 18:47.53 | Jormungandr | it's really cool stuff. |
| 18:47.58 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: http://freshmeat.net/projects/aim2irc/?topic_id=26%2C24 |
| 18:48.10 | Jormungandr | doug, that's an old (not working) verson |
| 18:48.12 | Jormungandr | version |
| 18:48.14 | bzdoug__ | oh |
| 18:48.18 | Jormungandr | tried it yesterday |
| 18:48.22 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 18:48.24 | Jormungandr | won't actually join channel. |
| 18:48.38 | bzdoug__ | oh... |
| 18:48.39 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 18:48.50 | Jormungandr | the web browser on sidekick is slick.. not WAP |
| 18:49.04 | bzdoug__ | oh? |
| 18:49.22 | Jormungandr | it goes through a proxy and images are optimized for the device. |
| 18:49.33 | Jormungandr | so you can browse any web page. |
| 18:49.34 | *** join/#bzflag Rembo (~remco@seesink.kabel.utwente.nl) |
| 18:49.42 | Jormungandr | it doesn't do java or javascript, though. |
| 18:49.43 | bzdoug__ | cool |
| 18:50.12 | Jormungandr | I actually mapquested my house, and the map was readable. |
| 18:50.28 | bzdoug__ | hah |
| 18:50.52 | Jormungandr | built in AIM rules, though. |
| 18:51.03 | bzdoug__ | http://www.bananachunks.org/index.php ? |
| 18:51.07 | Jormungandr | and it will check up to 3 pop accounts. |
| 18:51.14 | bzdoug__ | thats pretty cool lookin |
| 18:51.16 | bzdoug__ | cool |
| 18:51.19 | bzdoug__ | runs linux? :P |
| 18:51.22 | scanline | Jormungandr: ibot used to be an infobot, now it's a blootbot |
| 18:51.23 | Jormungandr | it refers to a domain that isn't resolvable. |
| 18:51.27 | scanline | ibot: who are you |
| 18:51.33 | | from memory, ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ |
| 18:51.33 | bzdoug__ | oh? |
| 18:51.33 | bzdoug__ | I am at it |
| 18:51.49 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: that web site works now |
| 18:51.51 | Jormungandr | no... not bananachunks, but the domain where aim2irc.pl is linked |
| 18:52.01 | bzdoug__ | oh |
| 18:52.02 | bzdoug__ | darn |
| 18:52.13 | Jormungandr | bloatedvaporware.com |
| 18:52.15 | Jormungandr | DUH |
| 18:52.17 | Jormungandr | :( |
| 18:52.20 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 18:52.24 | bzdoug__ | http://www.brokenvaporware.com/~brian/aim_bots/ |
| 18:52.25 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 18:52.32 | bzdoug__ | ARCIVE TO THE RESCUE! |
| 18:52.32 | Jormungandr | broken |
| 18:53.21 | Jormungandr | that domain has been unresolvable since at least yesterday AM |
| 18:53.22 | *** join/#bzflag tvon (~tvon@md-frdrck-cmts2a-a-53.shphwv.adelphia.net) |
| 18:53.27 | tvon | Any turkey admins here? |
| 18:53.28 | bzdoug__ | hm |
| 18:53.36 | tvon | some red guy 'crashing' is making clients crash |
| 18:53.49 | bzdoug__ | uh huh |
| 18:53.49 | Jormungandr | ut oh. |
| 18:54.01 | Jormungandr | sounsd like turkey needs to upgrade server to newest cvs. |
| 18:56.39 | tvon | so no admins around eh? |
| 18:56.42 | bzdoug__ | no |
| 18:56.45 | Jormungandr | no sorry |
| 18:57.09 | Jormungandr | hrm... that closed admin mailing list sounds like a really good idea. |
| 18:57.21 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 18:57.34 | Jormungandr | well, I'd like to share my admin password with people I can trust. |
| 18:57.50 | Jormungandr | so that if I am not around, they can deal with crap if they are available. |
| 18:57.59 | bzdoug__ | http://www.aaronsw.com/2002/aimbridge.py |
| 18:58.12 | Jormungandr | and i don't want to run bzcop script unless I can still gy access to my own server. |
| 18:58.21 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 19:01.23 | Jormungandr | looking at the py script... hopefully I don't need anything to make it run. |
| 19:01.32 | Jormungandr | besides python |
| 19:01.58 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 19:02.32 | bzdoug__ | I dont have twisted |
| 19:02.36 | bzdoug__ | you need that |
| 19:02.49 | bzdoug__ | http://www.advogato.org/proj/Twisted%20Python/ |
| 19:03.51 | *** join/#bzflag AIMBOT (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 19:03.55 | bzdoug__ | hahahaa |
| 19:03.55 | bzdoug__ | woo |
| 19:03.57 | bzdoug__ | it works! |
| 19:04.22 | *** join/#bzflag Ginku (~Gehm@p50843945.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:04.23 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 19:04.28 | bzdoug__ | atleast the IRC |
| 19:04.33 | bzdoug__ | I need a AIM username |
| 19:04.35 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 19:04.48 | bzdoug__ | wont quit |
| 19:04.52 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 19:05.11 | Jormungandr | I'm confused which goes where.. irc or aim name/nick. |
| 19:05.19 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 19:05.37 | bzdoug__ | b1 = AIMBot('username', 'waflle') |
| 19:05.43 | bzdoug__ | thats where I put it |
| 19:05.46 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 19:05.48 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 19:05.58 | bzdoug__ | class IRCBot(irc.IRCClient): |
| 19:05.58 | bzdoug__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.58 | bzdoug__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.58 | bzdoug__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.16 | Jormungandr | but, these things usually need 2 remote names... 1 to log in to, and one to relay to. |
| 19:06.22 | Jormungandr | AIM |
| 19:06.22 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 19:06.26 | bzdoug__ | yea... |
| 19:06.29 | bzdoug__ | I dont know... |
| 19:06.31 | bzdoug__ | let me try.. |
| 19:11.40 | *** join/#bzflag bzdoug_ (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 19:12.40 | Jormungandr | lunch date soon... |
| 19:12.43 | bzdoug_ | hehe |
| 19:12.45 | bzdoug_ | BSOD |
| 19:12.46 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 19:12.47 | Jormungandr | at fave vietnamese place. |
| 19:12.52 | sussudio | pigbot |
| 19:12.52 | bzdoug_ | ooh, yum |
| 19:13.04 | Jormungandr | we have friend who owns her own restaraunt |
| 19:13.08 | bzdoug_ | cool! |
| 19:13.09 | Jormungandr | she is very fun. |
| 19:13.33 | Jormungandr | eek |
| 19:13.52 | bzdoug_ | ok... |
| 19:14.00 | bzdoug_ | now I need to get me a AIM username |
| 19:14.05 | bzdoug_ | that I aint usin |
| 19:14.54 | Jormungandr | sing up for another one :) |
| 19:14.58 | Jormungandr | sign |
| 19:15.07 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 19:16.18 | sussudio | ~pig wonton chicken |
| 19:16.23 | | wonton chicken is 46% pig! |
| 19:18.08 | Jormungandr | got ahold of guy who owns brokenvaporware |
| 19:18.12 | Jormungandr | it's a dns issue. |
| 19:18.15 | Jormungandr | can't ping his server. |
| 19:18.18 | Jormungandr | dns |
| 19:19.51 | *** part/#bzflag tvon (~tvon@md-frdrck-cmts2a-a-53.shphwv.adelphia.net) |
| 19:24.53 | *** join/#bzflag tad (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 19:24.56 | tad | sheesh |
| 19:25.12 | tad | hmm, so you can get to his website? |
| 19:25.19 | tad | thats cool... |
| 19:28.27 | tad | about time |
| 19:30.02 | *** join/#bzflag bzdoug_ (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 19:30.24 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 19:30.26 | bzdoug_ | better |
| 19:40.42 | bzdoug_ | Jormungandr: did you get the latest AIM2IRC? |
| 19:41.11 | Jormungandr | nod |
| 19:41.11 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 19:41.19 | Jormungandr | I can irc from my sidekick now. :) |
| 19:41.23 | bzdoug_ | cool |
| 19:41.30 | bzdoug_ | could you give me it? |
| 19:41.43 | Jormungandr | oh... let me give you good addy... |
| 19:41.48 | bzdoug_ | k |
| 19:41.52 | Jormungandr | http://www.brianosaurus.org/~brian/aim_bots/ |
| 19:41.55 | Jormungandr | that resolves |
| 19:42.04 | bzdoug_ | cool |
| 19:42.11 | bzdoug_ | MUD? |
| 19:42.20 | bzdoug_ | ah, cool |
| 19:42.22 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 19:43.54 | *** join/#bzflag AIMBOT (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 19:44.07 | Jormungandr | wi bzdoug_ |
| 19:44.09 | AIMBOT | <tadeheckaman> I am currently away from the computer. |
| 19:44.09 | Jormungandr | ooops |
| 19:44.14 | Jormungandr | what is good server? |
| 19:44.15 | AIMBOT | <tadeheckaman> cool |
| 19:44.20 | Jormungandr | freenode.net isn't letting me join |
| 19:44.26 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 19:44.28 | bzdoug_ | me niether |
| 19:44.34 | bzdoug_ | its down and up |
| 19:44.55 | AIMBOT | <tadeheckaman> aha, this is pretty cool, now will this work with all AIM people, or only me? |
| 19:45.22 | AIMBOT | <tadeheckaman> wow, pretty bad lag here, takes about 2 seconds for a message to get though |
| 19:45.40 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 19:45.40 | AIMBOT | <tadeheckaman> I am currently away from the computer. |
| 19:45.47 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 19:45.48 | sussudio | get. bot. out. of. here. |
| 19:45.49 | AIMBOT | <tadeheckaman> I am currently away from the computer. |
| 19:45.59 | bzdoug_ | gah |
| 19:46.02 | sussudio | yay. |
| 19:46.20 | bzdoug_ | sussudio: g.e.t b.o.t o.u.t o.f h.e.a.r |
| 19:46.45 | sussudio | ibot spell hear |
| 19:46.45 | | 'hear' may be spelled correctly |
| 19:46.50 | sussudio | nuh uh |
| 19:47.38 | bzdoug_ | Jormungandr: does it need anything else added? |
| 19:47.50 | Jormungandr | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.58 | Jormungandr | it works on my home server |
| 19:48.08 | bzdoug_ | cool |
| 19:48.33 | bzdoug_ | what do I need to modify to get it to wkr? |
| 19:49.14 | bzdoug_ | jhmm |
| 19:49.32 | Jormungandr | not sure... I can get it to work at home. |
| 19:49.47 | sussudio | man... this song is encoded in the worst possible way |
| 19:49.53 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 19:49.56 | bzdoug_ | you just ran it? |
| 19:50.08 | Jormungandr | oh |
| 19:50.11 | Jormungandr | ummm |
| 19:50.14 | sussudio | err fraunhofer? |
| 19:50.15 | bzdoug_ | hmm, cant locate Net/IRC.pm |
| 19:50.25 | Jormungandr | aim2irc.pl aimusername aimpasswd |
| 19:50.31 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 19:50.34 | sussudio | some dork must have re-encoded it or something.... sounds like it's under water or something |
| 19:50.39 | *** join/#bzflag bobble (~booble@p508030BE.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:51.16 | bzdoug_ | I dont have IRC.pm |
| 19:51.24 | sussudio | hahaha |
| 19:51.50 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 19:51.52 | Jormungandr | get it :) |
| 19:52.02 | Jormungandr | off to lunch date. |
| 19:52.09 | sussudio | must be libperl-dumbassbots or something |
| 19:52.12 | bzdoug_ | ok |
| 19:52.13 | bzdoug_ | cya |
| 19:52.14 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 19:52.19 | bzdoug_ | sussudio: indeed |
| 20:18.17 | bzdoug_ | how do I untar something |
| 20:18.47 | fiberchunks | tar xzvf <file> |
| 20:18.53 | fiberchunks | if it's tar.gz |
| 20:19.00 | bzdoug_ | aha |
| 20:19.04 | bzdoug_ | ooh |
| 20:19.06 | fiberchunks | if it's just tar, tar xvf <file> |
| 20:19.10 | bzdoug_ | thx |
| 20:19.11 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 20:19.14 | fiberchunks | sure |
| 20:21.44 | bzdoug_ | bah |
| 20:21.53 | bzdoug_ | linux and its stupid capitalization stuff |
| 20:23.11 | bzdoug_ | how do I copy whole dirs? |
| 20:24.29 | bzdoug_ | hmm |
| 20:25.18 | jzaun | cp <dir> <dir_cpy> -are |
| 20:25.18 | jzaun | err -<letter R> |
| 20:25.31 | bzdoug_ | arrrr |
| 20:25.33 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 20:25.34 | bzdoug_ | thx |
| 20:26.13 | sussudio | The enter key or return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '--', or ellipsis '...' instead. |
| 20:26.15 | jzaun | 'man cp' does wonders :-) |
| 20:26.33 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 20:26.40 | bzdoug_ | I use cp --help |
| 20:26.41 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 20:27.08 | jzaun | just never do 'rm / -rf' as root :-) |
| 20:27.21 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 20:27.23 | bzdoug_ | -rf? |
| 20:27.26 | bzdoug_ | whats that mean? |
| 20:27.30 | bzdoug_ | force? |
| 20:27.33 | bzdoug_ | r = dirs? |
| 20:27.36 | sussudio | do chmod 777 / -r instead |
| 20:28.19 | jzaun | sussudio: whats about '?' and '!' |
| 20:28.37 | sussudio | hm? |
| 20:29.12 | jzaun | rf = recursive force |
| 20:29.39 | sussudio | :-| |
| 20:29.39 | jzaun | bbiab - TV time |
| 20:30.17 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 20:30.24 | bzdoug_ | wow |
| 20:30.36 | bzdoug_ | a gui sure beats command line when copying files |
| 20:31.18 | fiberchunks | cp -R <directory> |
| 20:31.40 | fiberchunks | cp -R <sourcedir> <destdir> |
| 20:31.42 | bzdoug_ | ah |
| 20:32.00 | bzdoug_ | still, a gui is better |
| 20:32.01 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 20:32.07 | fiberchunks | no, it's not |
| 20:32.20 | bzdoug_ | for me it is |
| 20:32.23 | bzdoug_ | for copying files |
| 20:32.27 | bzdoug_ | just drag and drop |
| 20:32.29 | bzdoug_ | easy |
| 20:32.35 | sussudio | hah! there's no airports in kentucky, pigstate |
| 20:32.40 | fiberchunks | try doing this in a gui: find / -type f -name *.o exec rm -f {} \; |
| 20:32.42 | sussudio | just drop off points |
| 20:32.47 | sussudio | PIG BELOW |
| 20:33.01 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: why would I have to do that? |
| 20:33.12 | bzdoug_ | fiberchunks: if I was doin that, I would HAVE to be on commandline |
| 20:33.13 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 20:33.14 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 20:33.16 | bzdoug_ | hehe |
| 20:33.47 | bzdoug_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.49 | fiberchunks | even better, try finding all files with permissions set to 644, and change them to 655 with a gui -- in one click : |
| 20:33.55 | bzdoug_ | :) |
| 20:34.02 | bzdoug_ | .sh files |
| 20:34.22 | fiberchunks | away, back, away back, make up your mind ;) |
| 20:35.28 | [TeA|TrEE] | hmm |
| 20:35.57 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 20:37.04 | fiberchunks | sussudio: can giFT search the gnutella net as well? |
| 20:37.12 | sussudio | no |
| 20:37.29 | fiberchunks | phoot, wish someone would come up with a multi-protocol p2p app |
| 20:37.36 | sussudio | why. |
| 20:37.42 | sussudio | gnutella sux |
| 20:37.50 | fiberchunks | more selections |
| 20:38.11 | sussudio | takes to friggin long |
| 20:38.16 | fiberchunks | concur |
| 20:38.41 | sussudio | gnutella takes too friggin long |
| 20:38.50 | fiberchunks | concur again |
| 20:39.28 | sussudio | on the other hand, giFT has like 20 users because the maintainers have some kind of anal thing about people actually using their precious program |
| 20:39.40 | fiberchunks | hehe |
| 20:39.48 | fiberchunks | wonder why |
| 20:40.20 | sussudio | i'm guessing it's the only thing in their life... maybe they should get a pet.... or a girlfriend or something |
| 20:40.28 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 20:40.57 | fiberchunks | I have both a girlfriend and a pet, and I still use the computer too much :) |
| 20:41.35 | fiberchunks | if, of course, that's possible ^^^^^^^ |
| 20:49.03 | bzdoug_ | wow |
| 20:49.06 | bzdoug_ | this is soo wierd |
| 20:49.10 | bzdoug_ | ready for it? |
| 20:49.12 | bzdoug_ | this.cname.deprecated.as.we.have.changed.our.name.to.freenode.net |
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| 20:50.06 | bzdoug_ | hm |
| 20:52.47 | *** join/#bzflag bzdougggg (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 20:53.55 | bzdoug_ | hm |
| 20:54.36 | bzdoug_ | Proton_Man: what did you do now? |
| 20:54.54 | Proton_Man | bzdoug_: you know -view stereo? |
| 20:55.02 | bzdoug_ | yea |
| 20:55.14 | bzdoug_ | oh? |
| 20:55.18 | bzdoug_ | like shutter glasses? |
| 20:55.28 | Proton_Man | nope |
| 20:55.42 | bzdoug_ | HMD? |
| 20:55.49 | Proton_Man | nope |
| 20:56.10 | bzdoug_ | ... |
| 20:56.15 | bzdoug_ | 3d LCD? |
| 20:56.24 | Proton_Man | nope |
| 20:56.52 | bzdoug_ | what then? |
| 20:56.55 | bzdoug_ | 2 eyes? |
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| 20:57.13 | bzdouggggg | test |
| 20:57.16 | bzdoug_ | yay |
| 20:59.20 | Proton_Man | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/pics/vizlab/ |
| 21:16.45 | [TeA|TrEE] | hmm |
| 21:17.03 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatu |
| 21:17.06 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducati |
| 21:17.22 | [TeA|TrEE] | ibot bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:59999 |
| 21:19.32 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 21:22.02 | fiberchunks | hey Proton_Man, what are all them boxes under the table on the ground for? |
| 21:22.56 | fiberchunks | looks like component video stuff, right (cept the white box, can't figure that one out) |
| 21:24.53 | Proton_Man | fiberchunks: the white box is an encoder for tracking devices |
| 21:25.35 | fiberchunks | tracking devices? |
| 21:25.50 | fiberchunks | what, like hot swap and what not? |
| 21:25.52 | Proton_Man | there are some input devices for the screen that it does 3d motion tracking on |
| 21:25.57 | fiberchunks | ah, ic |
| 21:26.10 | fiberchunks | the others are comp. video to your 2 monitors, correct? |
| 21:26.46 | Proton_Man | no, monitors are svga |
| 21:26.54 | fiberchunks | oh, then what are those? |
| 21:26.57 | Proton_Man | component video goes to the projectors in the screen |
| 21:27.27 | fiberchunks | cool -- that your work or home rig? |
| 21:27.37 | Proton_Man | neither |
| 21:27.50 | Proton_Man | its a lab owned by some research group - i charmed them into letting me use it |
| 21:28.08 | fiberchunks | heh -- must have a good quantity of charm :) |
| 21:30.17 | *** join/#bzflag david_v (~david@c193-150-238-157.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 21:30.23 | david_v | wow lots of people here, hi all :) |
| 21:30.36 | david_v | first time in here |
| 21:31.02 | Chestal | tag |
| 21:32.30 | fiberchunks | lo Chestal |
| 21:32.33 | fiberchunks | and david_v |
| 21:33.42 | david_v | just curious, i think having ChanServ listed as a user is quite unusual, although it might of course be a regular bot with that nick :) |
| 21:33.48 | david_v | never seen that before anyway |
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| 21:37.18 | Proton_Man | fiberchunks: well - it involved me helping them get this lab set up for a demo the following day, so... |
| 21:37.47 | fiberchunks | they were obligated ;) |
| 21:38.05 | Proton_Man | =) |
| 21:38.15 | david_v | has everyone noticed this about the domain change? |
| 21:38.26 | Proton_Man | domain change? |
| 21:38.27 | david_v | irc.openprojects.net to irc.freenode.net |
| 21:38.34 | david_v | that's why i reconnected |
| 21:38.44 | david_v | not that i had to, but i just did it |
| 21:38.49 | Proton_Man | yeah i think just about everyone has noticed |
| 21:38.53 | david_v | :) |
| 21:39.11 | david_v | ahem Tea told me openprojects.net hehe |
| 21:39.22 | david_v | but i say no names... ;) or did i say one name already :) |
| 21:40.30 | david_v | how many of you have been to ducati.bzflag.org ? |
| 21:41.05 | Chestal | me, it's my server |
| 21:41.28 | david_v | ah yea recognize your name. i just skimmed through the list hehe |
| 21:41.31 | david_v | cool :) |
| 21:41.41 | david_v | anyone else? |
| 21:41.44 | david_v | except tea |
| 21:42.01 | david_v | fiberchunks i think |
| 21:42.08 | david_v | proton_man |
| 21:42.11 | Proton_Man | i think just about everyone has been there sometime |
| 21:42.11 | david_v | right? :) |
| 21:42.14 | david_v | oh ok |
| 21:42.17 | sussudio | piggies |
| 21:42.29 | david_v | i have only been playing for a few days anyway |
| 21:43.59 | sussudio | ~ducatictf |
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| 21:51.15 | calico | chestal you here |
| 21:52.07 | david_v | hi calico :) |
| 21:52.12 | david_v | and hi lurgyman |
| 21:52.30 | Chestal | yes |
| 21:52.51 | calico | i just notice that there is a double post on the match results |
| 21:52.59 | calico | does that effect standings |
| 21:53.12 | Chestal | oh? |
| 21:53.16 | calico | it is the tlz 11 how 1 match |
| 21:53.27 | calico | its posted twice in a row |
| 21:53.31 | Chestal | no, that's correct |
| 21:53.34 | Chestal | it was 2 matches |
| 21:53.41 | calico | it has the same time and everything |
| 21:53.53 | Chestal | that#s because I entered them both the next day |
| 21:53.57 | calico | ahhh |
| 21:54.01 | calico | i see |
| 21:54.06 | calico | nevermind than |
| 21:54.09 | calico | :) |
| 21:54.31 | calico | i do recall getting beat twice that bad now |
| 21:55.37 | calico | cya all, going out to dinner |
| 21:55.52 | *** part/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-1-87.stny.rr.com) |
| 22:03.27 | Chestal | hmm, that autokick on driving too fast looks dangerous to me |
| 22:04.30 | david_v | shoot you later guys ;) |
| 22:04.36 | Chestal | bye david |
| 22:04.36 | david_v | or cya, whatever :) |
| 22:05.13 | *** part/#bzflag david_v (~david@c193-150-238-157.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 22:05.20 | Proton_Man | Chestal: dangerous how? |
| 22:06.37 | Chestal | Proton: sync problems |
| 22:07.00 | Chestal | the TCP FlagDrop message migh tovertake the UDP playerupdate package |
| 22:07.45 | Chestal | the same applies to the shot checks, too, but in that case only the shot will be dropped. It should happen raerely, so no problem |
| 22:08.04 | Proton_Man | Chestal: it would only be an issue on very lagged players |
| 22:08.12 | Proton_Man | who shouldn't be there anyway ;) |
| 22:08.33 | Chestal | we shoudl test it |
| 22:08.37 | Chestal | sevre with 100 high speed flags |
| 22:08.45 | Chestal | people grabbing and dropping flag all the time |
| 22:09.08 | Chestal | check wuld be fine if it would make sure that player didn't have the flag for 5s or so |
| 22:09.30 | Chestal | with a unified protocol with msg ids, a safe check could also be performed |
| 22:11.52 | Chestal | with a client side check - which is probably less accurate - I had that exact problem sometime |
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| 22:13.27 | Chestal | hmm, it does soft kills only |
| 22:13.44 | *** part/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E97310.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:13.52 | *** join/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E97310.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:13.56 | [TeA|TrEE] | hmm |
| 22:23.18 | [TeA|TrEE] | #-# |
| 22:23.20 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 22:36.03 | *** join/#bzflag ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 22:36.03 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ChanServ] by brunner.freenode.net |
| 22:36.03 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o Proton_Man] by ChanServ |
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| 22:46.54 | Chestal | anyone who wants to test high speed kic, go to ducati 59500 |
| 22:47.10 | Chestal | and do a lot of flag grabbing, dropping and maneuvering |
| 23:41.02 | jzaun | anyone alive in here? |
| 23:41.36 | Jormungandr | hi jzaud |
| 23:41.38 | Jormungandr | n |
| 23:41.46 | jzaun | :-) |
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| 23:41.53 | jzaun | hi |
| 23:41.55 | jzaun | just wondering, been quiet for awhile |
| 23:41.56 | wallydog | heya |
| 23:42.04 | jzaun | hey there |
| 23:42.19 | Jormungandr | I just got back from lunch, and my remote irc client won't connect because of ident. |
| 23:42.21 | jzaun | so whats everyone doin? |
| 23:42.23 | Jormungandr | have to fix it. |
| 23:42.31 | Jormungandr | just got to work |
| 23:42.36 | Jormungandr | here til 12:30 |
| 23:42.39 | jzaun | Jormungandr: Lunch???? its 6:40PM here |
| 23:42.45 | jzaun | :-) |
| 23:42.47 | Jormungandr | it's 4:42 here. |
| 23:42.53 | Chestal | jzaun: care to join ducati 59500 and fool around a bit with the flags to see if there are problems? |
| 23:42.57 | Jormungandr | had had lunch at 2ish |
| 23:43.01 | jzaun | where ya off to at 12:30? |
| 23:43.07 | Jormungandr | home. |
| 23:43.08 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 23:43.16 | Jormungandr | work from 5-12:30 am |
| 23:43.17 | jzaun | heh :-) |
| 23:43.21 | jzaun | Chestal: sure, see you there |
| 23:43.38 | Chestal | ok |
| 23:43.43 | wallydog | me, aka fiberchunks |
| 23:43.54 | Jormungandr | hopefully I can get client working on mobile tonite so I can irc here when i am not around computer. |
| 23:44.39 | Jormungandr | now someone needs to port bzflag to sidekick ;) |
| 23:47.13 | bzdoug_ | lol |
| 23:47.36 | Jormungandr | I'd never do anything else. |
| 23:47.44 | bzdoug_ | heh |
| 23:48.37 | *** join/#bzflag roott (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 23:48.47 | roott | running xchat in root is dangorus!!!! |
| 23:48.54 | roott | hah |
| 23:51.56 | jzaun | Chestal: what output should you be getting? |
| 23:55.14 | Chestal | I did a mistake |
| 23:55.14 | fiberchunks_2 | lo |
| 23:55.14 | Chestal | it should just output that it kicked a player for speeding |
| 23:55.14 | jzaun | with HS, or with output |
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| 23:55.14 | Chestal | ehm? server shoudl just write a messasge to stderr |
| 23:55.14 | *** part/#bzflag nikt (nikt@nikt.org) |
| 23:55.14 | Chestal | so I can look atht the logs and see whether it kicked players |
| 23:55.14 | jzaun | it didn't output anything though? |
| 23:55.14 | Chestal | no, because I made a typo and didn't see that the latest versin didnt compile |
| 23:55.14 | bzdougg | how about it notify everybody thats playing that that player got kicked and here is his ip |
| 23:55.42 | Chestal | jzaun: ready for anothe rtest? |
| 23:56.00 | jzaun | sure |
| 23:56.34 | bzdougg | cdrom drives |
| 23:57.55 | Jormungandr | I am slowly working on updating bzfs man page with new stuff. |
| 23:58.04 | Jormungandr | since I can't code |
| 23:58.07 | Jormungandr | I can still write. |
| 23:58.20 | Jormungandr | I made the .conf file template :) |
| 23:58.32 | bzdougg | lol |
| 23:59.40 | Jormungandr | ut oh |
