| 00:00.01 | Patlabor221 | each keypress is sent as an event |
| 00:00.28 | Patlabor221 | so getKeyPress just returns true or false based on if a key was down |
| 00:00.56 | fiberchunks | what handles what key was pressed? |
| 00:00.57 | Patlabor221 | the actual key is inside BzfKeyEvent::Button |
| 00:01.04 | fiberchunks | ah, sry |
| 00:01.45 | Patlabor221 | well it's up to the higher level services to pick up the event and do something |
| 00:02.23 | Patlabor221 | doKeyPlaying processes the event |
| 00:02.50 | fiberchunks | or doKeyNotPlaying - depending on state of tank, if I'm not mistaken |
| 00:12.52 | Patlabor221 | tho it seems to handle the modfiyer keys difrent |
| 00:18.42 | fiberchunks | are there any other states for a player to be in besides playing or notplaying? |
| 00:18.55 | fiberchunks | i.e. is there a 'limbo' state? |
| 00:20.07 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 00:20.18 | fiberchunks | any others? |
| 00:20.42 | Patlabor221 | obxserver |
| 00:20.47 | Patlabor221 | and doug |
| 00:21.17 | MrApathyCream | enum PlayerState { |
| 00:21.17 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.17 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.17 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.17 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.18 | MrApathyCream | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.20 | MrApathyCream | }; |
| 00:21.29 | fiberchunks | ah, thank you :) |
| 00:23.44 | Patlabor221 | what is the #if defined(FREEZING) |
| 00:23.48 | Patlabor221 | stuff? |
| 00:24.37 | MrApathyCream | dunno, probably chestals |
| 00:25.35 | fiberchunks | is PlayerInLimbo only true for a client that has not initially entered a game, but has connected to the server; or does it revert to PlayerInLimbo after a PlayerDead state? |
| 00:25.55 | Patlabor221 | if I want to just check to see of the shift key was pressed would it be |
| 00:25.55 | Patlabor221 | if (key.shift || key.button == NoButton || key.Down ) |
| 00:26.06 | MrApathyCream | only before enter i think |
| 00:26.10 | fiberchunks | k, thx |
| 00:38.50 | TimRiker | Valoche claims joining as a JAFOPlayer will kill the other clients. anyone tried? |
| 00:43.06 | TimRiker | iirc FREEZING is taking screen shots? |
| 00:43.07 | Patlabor221 | just with the name JAFOPlayer? |
| 00:43.20 | TimRiker | type JAFOPlayer |
| 00:44.39 | Patlabor221 | didn't do anyting on Cap's server |
| 00:45.27 | TimRiker | hmm... tried it on Turkey an a bunch of people went away. =( |
| 00:45.31 | TimRiker | join one for me? |
| 00:46.09 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 00:48.16 | Patlabor221 | maybe it's a leenox thing |
| 00:48.27 | *** join/#bzflag gonkulator (~brandon@h-69-3-122-70.DNVTCO56.covad.net) |
| 00:48.53 | fiberchunks | didn't do anything for me |
| 00:49.08 | Patlabor221 | it just said you joined as an observer |
| 00:49.42 | Patlabor221 | now how would I tell if the shift or the ctrl keys are down |
| 00:49.51 | fiberchunks | any callsign, or callsign JAFOPlayer? |
| 00:51.16 | fiberchunks | check out the code in playing.cxx for motion while in ob mode |
| 00:51.23 | fiberchunks | around line 808 |
| 00:53.01 | Patlabor221 | yeah but that's tied to a keypress of another key |
| 00:53.38 | Patlabor221 | hmm that may work |
| 00:54.43 | fiberchunks | case BzfKeyEvent::Fire: if (pressed) { if (key.shift == BzfKeyEvent::CtrlKey) { blah; } } |
| 00:54.55 | fiberchunks | maybe? |
| 00:54.56 | Patlabor221 | yeah see that now |
| 00:55.03 | Patlabor221 | trying it |
| 00:55.49 | fiberchunks | you on line 939 or there abouts? BzfKeyMap::FireShot, key etc etc |
| 00:59.50 | fiberchunks | ugh - if you removed the && !Observer part from playing.cxx line 940, would you be able to blast off shots as an observer? |
| 01:01.10 | Patlabor221 | that would be something for the server to catch |
| 01:01.16 | Patlabor221 | if ( key.shift == BzfKeyEvent::ControlKey) |
| 01:01.21 | Patlabor221 | is never returning tru for me |
| 01:02.58 | Patlabor221 | no, it's the key |
| 01:03.06 | Patlabor221 | it's shift never == ctrl |
| 01:03.20 | Patlabor221 | sixors |
| 01:03.37 | fiberchunks | hrm? |
| 01:16.28 | Jormungandr | hrm. error doing "make linux" on cvs |
| 01:16.41 | Jormungandr | make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mandrake/CVS/bzflag/configs' |
| 01:16.41 | Jormungandr | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `default'. Stop. |
| 01:16.41 | Jormungandr | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mandrake/CVS/bzflag/configs' |
| 01:16.59 | scanline | I'm having trouble locking onto them.. they appear to be in some sort of temporal flux |
| 01:17.09 | scanline | Beam them out of there, Scotty! |
| 01:20.32 | fiberchunks | how can I pump make output (stderr and stdout), to a log file? make 2&>1 | tee logfile? |
| 01:20.53 | scanline | yep |
| 01:21.18 | fiberchunks | tanks |
| 01:22.15 | *** join/#bzflag gonkey{iBook} (~brandon@h-69-3-122-70.DNVTCO56.covad.net) |
| 01:23.05 | Jormungandr | make >logfile.txt 2>&1 |
| 01:23.41 | Jormungandr | should do it too |
| 01:23.58 | scanline | Jormungandr: that won't also display it to stdout |
| 01:24.04 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 01:24.05 | Jormungandr | duh |
| 01:24.36 | Jormungandr | this make problem happened the other day, someone fixed cvs, and now it's happening again. :( |
| 01:25.22 | Patlabor221 | your missing files in the make proalby |
| 01:25.40 | scanline | try "cvs up -PdA" |
| 01:25.50 | MrApathyCream | -r v1_7 |
| 01:25.55 | scanline | oops |
| 01:25.57 | scanline | forgot about that |
| 01:26.10 | scanline | so ditch the -A :) |
| 01:26.31 | Jormungandr | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -r 1.7 bzflag |
| 01:26.38 | fiberchunks | hrmph, if I issue make 2&>1 | tee makefile.log -- it just returns immediately -- |
| 01:26.39 | Jormungandr | that's what I'm using |
| 01:27.10 | Jormungandr | oh... v1_7 |
| 01:27.31 | fiberchunks | ah, whoopsy: make | tee makefile.log 2&>1 does it |
| 01:27.49 | MrApathyCream | you did that before |
| 01:27.51 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 01:28.00 | fiberchunks | but no warnings in the logfile |
| 01:31.29 | fiberchunks | jeez, you join #bash, and everyone's a channel op -- how odd |
| 01:36.58 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: whats thaat? |
| 01:37.47 | Patlabor221 | cap: hit shift and your speed jumpt to 2x then goes down to normal over 5 sec, with a reuse time of 30 sec |
| 01:38.05 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:38.06 | fiberchunks | another stupid n00b question: how can I just compile bzflag, without compiling bzfs, bzfls, etc? |
| 01:38.16 | Patlabor221 | hit ctrl when you fire and you poop a bullet out your butt that just sits there like a mine. |
| 01:38.25 | fiberchunks | I usually do: make clean; make linux; make |
| 01:38.25 | Patlabor221 | make bzflag |
| 01:38.39 | fiberchunks | from toplevel dir? |
| 01:38.57 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: yep |
| 01:39.08 | fiberchunks | make: *** No rule to make target `bzflag'. Stop. |
| 01:39.11 | Patlabor221 | alt and fire and you fire backwards but at 1/2 shot speed |
| 01:39.31 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 01:39.34 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: cd src/bzflag; make |
| 01:39.41 | fiberchunks | ah, k |
| 01:39.41 | captain_proton | although that won't quite work..., |
| 01:39.47 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: bleh, just make everything |
| 01:39.51 | Patlabor221 | and of course ALT + SHIFT+ CTRL+F12 = kill everyone |
| 01:39.54 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 01:40.15 | Patlabor221 | on the perfered developement platform you can just set your build target |
| 01:40.22 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 01:40.35 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/pics/vizlab/ =) |
| 01:40.39 | fiberchunks | pref. dev. plat. is? |
| 01:40.47 | Patlabor221 | the one cap hates :) |
| 01:40.51 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: they call it windows :P |
| 01:40.51 | Patlabor221 | it's an old joke |
| 01:40.58 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:41.38 | fiberchunks | captain_proton: what do you do when you just want to recompile bzflag after twiddling with it? |
| 01:41.40 | Patlabor221 | that is such a grillly small monitor :) |
| 01:42.00 | captain_proton | fiberchunks: just make - it should handle dependencies well enough for it to work most of the time |
| 01:42.01 | Patlabor221 | I hit F7 or F5 and it's all good ;) |
| 01:42.24 | fiberchunks | ah, k |
| 01:42.25 | Patlabor221 | that is a big ass sterio tank |
| 01:42.47 | Patlabor221 | you do need to hook someting up on that thing |
| 01:42.48 | captain_proton | scanline: look at those photos - its your future home ;) |
| 01:43.16 | scanline | mmmmm |
| 01:43.46 | *** join/#bzflag victorvdl (~victorvdl@ip152.13-173-207.eli-du.nwlink.com) |
| 01:44.54 | scanline | "Fakespace" :) |
| 01:44.56 | Patlabor221 | gonna picofy it? |
| 01:45.43 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i was trying halfheartedly to get pgserver compiled on it |
| 01:46.17 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 01:46.21 | scanline | captain_proton: after the jetstream demo-thingy next week I'm going to fix a few outstanding issues in picogui, make a release, then do the new build system |
| 01:46.34 | Patlabor221 | cap, does this look like it's right? |
| 01:46.34 | Patlabor221 | if ( key.shift == BzfKeyEvent::ControlKey) |
| 01:46.34 | Patlabor221 | myTank->bCtrlKeyDown = true; |
| 01:46.34 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:46.48 | *** join/#bzflag Widget (me@12-240-76-157.client.attbi.com) |
| 01:46.55 | captain_proton | scanline: the build system worked fine after some path-altering drugs |
| 01:47.03 | captain_proton | scanline: what needs to be fixed are the linuxisms in the source |
| 01:47.18 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yeah |
| 01:47.31 | Patlabor221 | it never gets into the controll key stuff |
| 01:47.37 | Patlabor221 | unless..... |
| 01:47.53 | scanline | captain_proton: true, but the build system irritates me and it needs to be changed for me to try things on the non-linux platforms I have available (OS X and win32) |
| 01:48.38 | captain_proton | i kinda like the fact that IRIX is compatible with every unix ever made -except- linux |
| 01:49.29 | scanline | :) |
| 01:57.10 | Patlabor221 | hmm ctrl keys are not handled the same |
| 01:59.00 | Patlabor221 | note to self, don't make shots inside your own tank |
| 02:02.14 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@mxfcl5x11.chesco.com) |
| 02:03.18 | captain_proton | uh oh |
| 02:04.39 | MrApathyCream | uhoh |
| 02:07.07 | Patlabor221 | hmmm shots with 0 velocity draw wierd in the radar |
| 02:07.33 | fiberchunks | what's the difference between localPlayer and remotePlayer? |
| 02:07.47 | fiberchunks | haha, besides the obvious name differences |
| 02:07.56 | Patlabor221 | one is you |
| 02:07.59 | Patlabor221 | the other is them |
| 02:08.14 | Patlabor221 | remotes have simpler logic I think |
| 02:08.15 | fiberchunks | oh, so remotePlayer is the interaction between your client and their clients? |
| 02:08.33 | Patlabor221 | there is a remote player for each other player |
| 02:08.37 | Patlabor221 | and one local player for you |
| 02:08.55 | fiberchunks | ah, ic, thanks |
| 02:11.52 | Patlabor221 | hmmm shots can not be given an intial velocity it seems |
| 02:11.57 | Patlabor221 | in Z I mean |
| 02:12.52 | scanline | Patlabor221: yes they can, I got that working in my flight sim |
| 02:13.00 | Patlabor221 | what do I have to do? |
| 02:13.08 | scanline | it was hidden somewhere weird... you could read my diff to see where, I don't remember exactly |
| 02:13.33 | Patlabor221 | but the change has to be on all clients right? |
| 02:13.37 | scanline | right |
| 02:14.22 | Patlabor221 | well that's not a very good cheat client then :) |
| 02:14.50 | scanline | yeah, but it's more fun than having to shoot horizontally, even if you can't hit anything :) |
| 02:15.01 | captain_proton | Q is pretty cool actually |
| 02:15.08 | captain_proton | i used to think he was annoying |
| 02:15.34 | Patlabor221 | I'm trying to get it to poop a mine and have it slowly settle to the ground |
| 02:15.38 | Patlabor221 | but it's not gonna work |
| 02:15.50 | scanline | hehe, bombs |
| 02:15.54 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:16.23 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: feel free to break protocol ;) |
| 02:16.24 | Patlabor221 | I wanted it to be a ctrl click |
| 02:16.43 | Patlabor221 | nope the plan is to make this a cheat client to test cheat client protection |
| 02:16.54 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 02:17.11 | Patlabor221 | LOL join 1 |
| 02:17.16 | Patlabor221 | see what I just did |
| 02:18.45 | corndawg | hey all... slack really that much of a pain in the ass to install? |
| 02:19.26 | Patlabor221 | can you gottttttta see this |
| 02:19.30 | Patlabor221 | cap not can |
| 02:19.47 | corndawg | i can |
| 02:20.05 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: coming... |
| 02:20.07 | Patlabor221 | join One |
| 02:20.57 | fiberchunks | not sure who I talked to, I think Chestal, but I just submitted a bug report bout keyboard players (ack! I forgot reproduction) |
| 02:23.58 | Patlabor221 | ok cap come back |
| 02:25.26 | fiberchunks | ok, now it's there on the dev forums @ sf.net |
| 02:26.12 | Patlabor221 | well time to go do web pages |
| 02:26.37 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you left? |
| 02:28.06 | Patlabor221 | yeah have to go to the other job |
| 02:28.45 | Patlabor221 | I'll work more on it later tongiht |
| 02:28.50 | Patlabor221 | gotta get the keys worked out |
| 02:29.00 | Patlabor221 | sucks that you don't relay get an event for shift and ctrl |
| 02:29.20 | Patlabor221 | have to hook it up to z x and c |
| 02:43.03 | MrApathyCream | fiberchunks: mice are pretty cheap now |
| 02:43.20 | MrApathyCream | <500 bucks i think |
| 02:49.59 | captain_proton | heh |
| 02:51.37 | *** join/#bzflag Patalbor221 (~jeffm@dsl-65-184-174-217.telocity.com) |
| 02:53.09 | fiberchunks | MrApathyCream: yes, but I hate them |
| 02:54.15 | corndawg | hum... anyone here know where i can d/l extra gimp logos? |
| 02:54.33 | corndawg | gimp.org has nothing about em |
| 02:54.48 | Patalbor221 | it's gimp, make one |
| 02:55.04 | corndawg | thought of that to |
| 02:55.59 | Patalbor221 | *sigh* time to reluctnalty work on the pr0n :( |
| 02:57.43 | Patalbor221 | hmmmm the bzflag.org main page should have a link to "patches" under the sourceforge section |
| 03:00.55 | *** join/#bzflag Vernon (~vds@218.203.27.24.cfl.rr.com) |
| 03:02.41 | Vernon | Why dont the starboard (red), port (green), and aft (white) lights on the taks show in the gui when i play bzflag on my RH box? They show up fine when i play on my Debian box. |
| 03:02.52 | Vernon | s/taks/tanks/ |
| 03:03.16 | scanline | different version of bzflag? |
| 03:03.33 | Vernon | same version 1.7g0+UDP i believe |
| 03:03.38 | Vernon | checking now ... |
| 03:04.08 | Vernon | Yup both are 1.7g0 |
| 03:04.13 | scanline | hmm |
| 03:04.58 | Vernon | Only thing i can imagine is that the RH box uses the nVidia drivers ??? |
| 03:05.19 | Patalbor221 | the default ones? or the real nvidia ones? |
| 03:05.28 | Vernon | the real nVidia ones |
| 03:05.59 | Patalbor221 | odd |
| 03:06.31 | Vernon | That's what i thought ... how can i get a screen shot in bzflag (side question) ??? |
| 03:08.03 | Vernon | Also ... _approximately_ what frame rate should i expect with a Generic GeForce2 (MX) card ??? |
| 03:09.35 | Patalbor221 | depeds on the map |
| 03:09.40 | Patalbor221 | but fiarly decent |
| 03:10.26 | jzaun | Vernon: at 1600x1200 I get about 35fps |
| 03:10.47 | jzaun | Vernon: thats on Linux with the nVidia drivers |
| 03:11.25 | Vernon | Thanks ... same here ... a little less on mad city |
| 03:11.27 | fiberchunks | as a general rule, when I play fullscreen 1600x1200 (with GeForce3 Ti500), @ turkey.moongroup.com - I get around 75-95 fps I |
| 03:11.31 | scanline | hehe.. the false positives from this frustum test look like a biohazard symbol |
| 03:11.47 | captain_proton | heh |
| 03:11.58 | Patalbor221 | how do you turn on the FPS counter again? |
| 03:12.05 | Vernon | "ty" |
| 03:12.45 | Vernon | Can all of you see the port lights on other tanks through walls? |
| 03:13.14 | Vernon | Let me rephrase ... |
| 03:13.25 | Patalbor221 | I don't tink you are suposed to be able to |
| 03:13.29 | fiberchunks | T |
| 03:14.06 | Vernon | Can all of you see the port lights on non-CL tanks THROUGH THE WALLS? |
| 03:14.14 | Vernon | Because i can on my debian box |
| 03:14.25 | Vernon | and i do NOT have a hacked client |
| 03:15.12 | Patalbor221 | odd' |
| 03:15.29 | Vernon | Yes! gives some folks an unfair advantage |
| 03:15.54 | Vernon | but I cannot see them on the tanks with my RH box |
| 03:28.02 | MrApathyCream | wife? |
| 03:31.04 | bzdoug__ | life? |
| 03:31.13 | bzdoug__ | TimRiker has one, no bigy |
| 03:34.42 | MrApathyCream | *sigh* |
| 03:35.26 | *** join/#bzflag gonkulator (~brandon@h-69-3-122-70.DNVTCO56.covad.net) |
| 03:39.26 | bzdoug__ | MrApathyCream so do you I hear |
| 03:40.10 | MrApathyCream | tis true, i fear |
| 03:40.51 | captain_proton | thank god |
| 03:40.57 | captain_proton | my dad took the cashews away |
| 03:41.20 | MrApathyCream | heh, a strong first step in parental supervision |
| 03:42.13 | Vernon | OK ... resume asking ... |
| 03:42.25 | Vernon | how can i get a screen shot in bzflag (side question) ??? |
| 03:42.38 | MrApathyCream | printscreen button? |
| 03:42.51 | Vernon | really? cool ... |
| 03:42.57 | Vernon | have you tried? |
| 03:43.06 | MrApathyCream | on 'win32' anyway.. |
| 03:43.10 | Vernon | Can all/any of you see the port lights on other tanks through walls? |
| 03:43.22 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 03:44.02 | Vernon | Yes with my Debian box ... No with my Hat Box ... do not remember on my Windowz box ... |
| 03:45.17 | Vernon | Ok MrApathyCream and Vernon have their answers in ... |
| 03:45.49 | Vernon | You other folks ANSWER UP! (if you are present) |
| 03:46.00 | Vernon | Can all/any of you see the port lights on other tanks through walls? |
| 03:46.03 | scanline | tanks have lights? |
| 03:46.23 | Vernon | scanline answers "no" ... |
| 03:47.06 | scanline | Vernon: you forgot the "doesn't" and a couple letters resembling 'k' and 'w' |
| 03:47.27 | Vernon | And what OS are you running ... and if you are not using bzflag version 1.7g0+UDP ... say so .. |
| 03:50.19 | Vernon | scanline: what? |
| 03:50.51 | Vernon | You other folks ANSWER UP! (if you are present) |
| 03:50.57 | Vernon | Can all/any of you see the port lights on other tanks through walls? |
| 03:51.13 | Vernon | And what OS are you running? ... and if you are not using bzflag version 1.7g0+UDP ... say so ... |
| 03:51.16 | corndawg | um.. ive never seen port lights |
| 03:51.18 | scanline | Vernon: if anybody cared to answer they would have already seen the other two times you asked |
| 03:51.45 | Vernon | scanline: see ... corndawg answers "no" ... |
| 03:52.22 | scanline | Vernon: the point is, it's rude to try to force answers out of people like that |
| 03:52.37 | scanline | especially by just repeating lines cut&paste style |
| 03:52.55 | corndawg | my point is this.. if you try and forst a answere outta me.. the longer your gonna wait for the answere :) |
| 03:53.08 | corndawg | er.. force |
| 03:53.15 | corndawg | damn i cant spell |
| 03:53.27 | Vernon | scanline: sometimes people (like corndawg and myself) need a kick in the pants. |
| 03:53.42 | scanline | heh |
| 03:53.54 | corndawg | erm.. i dun need a kick in the pants |
| 03:54.04 | corndawg | just dont and wont be forced into anything :) |
| 03:57.47 | MrApathyCream | so much for hangin with MrCooper |
| 03:58.01 | corndawg | lol |
| 04:02.25 | fiberchunks | :q |
| 04:05.12 | MrApathyCream | Riker seems very active in development 5 minutes at a time :) |
| 04:05.33 | corndawg | lol |
| 04:11.26 | jzaun | got an off topic/general GL question, how would one draw a sphere? |
| 04:11.40 | scanline | with lots of triangles |
| 04:11.47 | captain_proton | or you could use gluSphere :P |
| 04:11.57 | scanline | gluSphere bleh... |
| 04:12.05 | scanline | write your own damn tesselator :) |
| 04:12.21 | captain_proton | scanline: it may not do CLOD, but its tolerable for a quick-hack type program |
| 04:13.57 | *** join/#bzflag Patalbor221 (~jeffm@dsl-65-184-174-217.telocity.com) |
| 04:14.48 | Patalbor221 | oh MAC there's a problem with fireing off a SW atached to a random player to get the SW effect, the client ignores the SW if the owner dosn't have the flag. |
| 04:16.19 | captain_proton | Patalbor221: so do a quick pickup & drop |
| 04:16.57 | Patalbor221 | that's what I was thinking, tho it may be confusing as everyone else will see "xxx got SW" "xxx droped SW" |
| 04:17.08 | captain_proton | Patalbor221: *shrug* |
| 04:17.21 | Patalbor221 | be nice if there was a "world" player |
| 04:17.39 | Patalbor221 | that the client ignored flag info from |
| 04:17.57 | Patalbor221 | just for effects and stuff |
| 04:18.13 | captain_proton | patches welcome ;-) |
| 04:31.49 | MrApathyCream | patlabor: thats actually the server i think |
| 04:32.10 | MrApathyCream | Patalbor221: world player: exactly |
| 04:32.15 | Patalbor221 | ohh I asked him if it was his bots and he sayd yeah |
| 04:32.20 | MrApathyCream | i toyed with doing that, but.. |
| 04:34.21 | Patalbor221 | can't just make a player ID that's like -1 or something |
| 04:34.35 | Patalbor221 | and have the client know that hey that's an effect from the world |
| 04:34.38 | Patalbor221 | just draw it |
| 04:34.42 | Patalbor221 | and don't worry bout it |
| 04:35.08 | *** join/#bzflag M_A_C (dbrosius@209.195.250.227) |
| 04:35.17 | Patalbor221 | agian with the droping? |
| 04:48.13 | captain_proton | does nafees realize he's working on 1.8? |
| 05:03.43 | Patalbor221 | cap where is cout declared? |
| 05:03.55 | captain_proton | Patalbor221: huh? |
| 05:04.08 | Patalbor221 | header file wize? |
| 05:04.09 | fiberchunks | can one of you all recommend a good resource (online or otherwise) concerning gl programming? |
| 05:04.11 | Patalbor221 | iostream.h |
| 05:04.15 | Patalbor221 | ? |
| 05:04.28 | fiberchunks | part of std namespace |
| 05:04.53 | M_A_C | captain_proton: i din't think si |
| 05:05.33 | M_A_C | (nafees) |
| 05:06.24 | captain_proton | Patalbor221: yeah, though nowadays its called "iostream" not "iostream.h" |
| 05:06.35 | M_A_C | iostream has << std::string, iostream.h does not |
| 05:06.50 | Patalbor221 | yeah I see that now |
| 05:06.52 | scanline | fiberchunks: NeHe tutorials, manpages, lots of random examples from the 'net |
| 05:06.56 | Patalbor221 | jzuan was having the problmens |
| 05:07.06 | Patalbor221 | they didn't use std name space in his sample |
| 05:07.10 | Patalbor221 | lazy bastards |
| 05:07.37 | fiberchunks | scanline: what's a NeHe ? :) |
| 05:07.54 | scanline | fiberchunks: check google, or for linux versions check libsdl.org |
| 05:08.05 | fiberchunks | bzfio includes <iostream> |
| 05:08.12 | fiberchunks | scanline: thx |
| 05:08.34 | scanline | the original nehe demos were written for win32, but they've been ported to SDL, glut, and probably other systems |
| 05:16.46 | Patalbor221 | fiber what do you want to try to do? |
| 05:17.17 | Patalbor221 | hmmm both fiber and jzuan want to learn more GL, wonder what they are up to :) |
| 05:18.54 | captain_proton | Patalbor221: no end of evil, for sure |
| 05:19.29 | Patalbor221 | perhaps I should continue the lecture series I started with widget " Patlabor221 teached graphics 103: OpenGL, what it's kewl" |
| 05:19.40 | Patalbor221 | why not what :/ |
| 05:20.14 | Patalbor221 | "and your homework for this week is. take a model and blow it up all cool like" :) |
| 05:21.16 | gonkulator | Patalbor221: put some explosives behind the monitor of your teacher's computer, and have it detonate on your assignment |
| 05:21.20 | gonkulator | Patalbor221: you will get an A |
| 05:21.32 | Patalbor221 | I was the teacher |
| 05:22.02 | Patalbor221 | and there are ways to blow a monitor just on it's own :) |
| 05:23.00 | scanline | hm... looks like this culling algorithm likes to produce really high density rings of triangles at odd places |
| 05:23.40 | Patalbor221 | the donut artifact? |
| 05:24.04 | Patalbor221 | pethaps it has hemiroids and wants a place to sit |
| 05:24.16 | scanline | possibly |
| 05:24.38 | fiberchunks | Patalbor221: just start to learn how to fiddle with gl programming is all |
| 05:25.30 | Patalbor221 | openGL.org has a list of tutortials |
| 05:25.40 | captain_proton | the tutorials at opengl.org suck |
| 05:25.44 | Patalbor221 | jzaun is doing the set of SDL GL tuts |
| 05:25.50 | Patalbor221 | true |
| 05:26.00 | Patalbor221 | but they are at least something |
| 05:26.20 | scanline | http://nehe.gamedev.net/opengl1.asp |
| 05:26.23 | Patalbor221 | http://www.gametutorials.com/ |
| 05:26.33 | Patalbor221 | yeah the nehe ones are decent |
| 05:26.50 | scanline | they're good for getting started, after that manpages are your friend :) |
| 05:27.08 | Patalbor221 | the gametuts.net go from drawing a tri all the way up to a q3 bsp |
| 05:27.20 | Patalbor221 | yeah, I just had the red and blue books |
| 05:27.40 | fiberchunks | thx all, appreciate it :) |
| 05:27.50 | scanline | http://nehe.gamedev.net/ <-- this has a lot more tutorials than the one on the first page |
| 05:28.45 | Patalbor221 | my first gl app was titled "sarlack: horror beyond imagination" |
| 05:29.00 | TimRiker | Vernon: seeing the lights is a a Mesa/driver bug. Though we could code around it, I never looked into it. |
| 05:29.04 | Patalbor221 | 15 glorious flat shaded frames a sec |
| 05:29.13 | TimRiker | I've seen it on different platforms and different drivers. |
| 05:33.54 | TimRiker | what's with the commented out jumping lines? |
| 05:35.54 | TimRiker | ahh, "Note to self: Remove test cheats before checking in" heh. |
| 05:36.26 | gonkulator | captain_proton: http://www.apple.com/hardware/video/powerbookg4bigandsmall.html |
| 05:36.36 | Patalbor221 | the 17? |
| 05:38.09 | Patalbor221 | that's funny |
| 05:39.02 | MrApathyCream | poor Nafees :( |
| 05:39.48 | Vernon | TimRiker: Thanks |
| 05:41.56 | Vernon | TimRiker: Thanks for the game from all the folks at the Disney World LUG :) |
| 05:49.17 | TimRiker | sweet, now push for a bzflag "ride". ;-) |
| 05:49.52 | Vernon | Hey great idea! |
| 05:50.21 | scanline | I'm sure you could get a government grant for anything that involves teaching kids about tank combat |
| 05:50.30 | scanline | because bzflag is so realistic like that |
| 05:50.31 | Vernon | Or at least let kidz play bzflag in the kewl virtual hosting at Disney Quest eh? |
| 05:50.57 | Vernon | s/hosting/reality rooms/ |
| 05:51.12 | MrApathyCream | I'd like to see if with 360 degree screens |
| 05:51.38 | TimRiker | yes yes! ;-) |
| 05:51.49 | Vernon | bet it would compile fine under whatever architecture they use :) |
| 05:52.02 | MrApathyCream | ~imitateBZFlag |
| 05:52.10 | MrApathyCream | arg |
| 05:52.10 | TimRiker | I'd be happy to "consult" with them and get it running. ;-) |
| 05:52.12 | scanline | ~emulate BZFlag |
| 05:52.12 | | ACTION sits hacking on blootbot, bzflag, tuxscreen, eLinux, and many other projects and mutters "Patches Welcome!" |
| 05:52.45 | Vernon | Well ... i could at least talk to one of our Disney guys ... he'd probably know who to contact |
| 05:52.52 | captain_proton | TimRiker: i'm gonna get bz up on the viz-screen ;) |
| 05:53.13 | Vernon | The best Disney guy I know is the guy in charge of all the cash registers at Disney |
| 05:53.14 | TimRiker | I'm looking into what it will take to get multiple local players for a console version. |
| 05:54.18 | Patalbor221 | what console? |
| 05:54.36 | TimRiker | xbox running linux for starters. ;-) |
| 05:54.40 | captain_proton | TimRiker: i'd be willing to work on that if you wanted to donate the required hardware ;-) |
| 05:54.44 | Patalbor221 | does it have GL? |
| 05:54.59 | TimRiker | yes. TuxRacer screenshots on the sf project page. |
| 05:55.01 | Patalbor221 | last I heard no gl drivers for the box |
| 05:55.07 | Patalbor221 | that's nice |
| 05:55.33 | TimRiker | same code should work on a win/lin box with multiple joysticks. |
| 05:55.49 | TimRiker | Patalbor221: mine's in the mail. ;-) |
| 05:55.57 | Patalbor221 | what one did you get? |
| 05:56.08 | TimRiker | mexico 5/2002 rev 1.0 |
| 05:56.19 | Vernon | cutting the screen in half for consoles? |
| 05:56.24 | Patalbor221 | I mean modchip |
| 05:56.38 | TimRiker | 2 controlers and one M$ game. Rallisport challenge. it rocks. |
| 05:56.45 | TimRiker | oh, Matrix. |
| 05:56.46 | Patalbor221 | ohhh |
| 05:56.49 | Patalbor221 | what game? |
| 05:57.00 | Patalbor221 | ohh see it |
| 05:57.01 | Patalbor221 | sorry |
| 05:57.04 | TimRiker | np |
| 05:57.08 | Patalbor221 | never played that one |
| 05:57.17 | Patalbor221 | have Halo and some others |
| 05:57.35 | TimRiker | sending more that maxshots does cause all players to crash. join me on one to see if it works there? |
| 05:57.46 | TimRiker | I think my fix will block it. |
| 05:58.23 | TimRiker | headed there... |
| 05:58.57 | fiberchunks | hey yall, having issues with compiling a proggie that needs libGLU -- but it's on my system, and in /usr/X11R6/lib - any ideas? |
| 05:59.19 | Jormungandr | M_A_C, I have test server up that is compiled from CVS, and it does crash clients when you grab some flags. |
| 05:59.24 | fiberchunks | and ld.so.conf points to /usr/X11R6/lib |
| 06:02.01 | MrApathyCream | Jormungandr: ok, where |
| 06:02.02 | Jormungandr | test server is on port 5255 of dragon.org. |
| 06:02.06 | MrApathyCream | ok |
| 06:02.37 | MrApathyCream | one sec, compiling |
| 06:03.05 | Jormungandr | you have to drive around and pick up flags until it crashes. |
| 06:03.11 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 06:04.23 | MrApathyCream | wow first one |
| 06:04.36 | Jormungandr | you got a NULL flag |
| 06:04.39 | Jormungandr | and exited |
| 06:05.54 | Jormungandr | I have huge strace from when you got booted. |
| 06:07.48 | MrApathyCream | what are you specifying for flags |
| 06:07.54 | MrApathyCream | +f ? -f ? |
| 06:08.15 | Jormungandr | let me look at conf. |
| 06:09.01 | Jormungandr | +f CL |
| 06:09.01 | Jormungandr | +f GM |
| 06:09.01 | Jormungandr | +f ID |
| 06:09.01 | Jormungandr | +f L |
| 06:09.01 | Jormungandr | +f OO |
| 06:09.01 | Jormungandr | +f ST |
| 06:09.03 | Jormungandr | -f JP |
| 06:09.05 | Jormungandr | -f R |
| 06:10.17 | Patalbor221 | boom and I am toast |
| 06:10.38 | MrApathyCream | Patalbor221: on Jormungandr's site? |
| 06:11.25 | MrApathyCream | do you specify +s? |
| 06:11.25 | Patalbor221 | no on tims test |
| 06:11.43 | TimRiker | cool. |
| 06:12.02 | Jormungandr | +s? |
| 06:12.08 | TimRiker | cheat protect works in CVS. I'm fairly sure that one is in use on clients. |
| 06:12.13 | Jormungandr | +s 15 |
| 06:12.19 | Jormungandr | -s 15 |
| 06:12.46 | Patalbor221 | yeah in CVs your shot stream was a lot more spaced out then on noodle before I got wacked |
| 06:12.55 | TimRiker | Jormungandr: what's the issue on your server? |
| 06:13.17 | Jormungandr | Tim, person grabs some flag, and crashes client. |
| 06:13.19 | TimRiker | Patalbor221: yep... 100 continuous shots looks wild. |
| 06:13.19 | Patalbor221 | hmm I don't see any mention of tuxracer on the x-box |
| 06:13.22 | Jormungandr | flag is NULL flag |
| 06:13.38 | Jormungandr | not all flags |
| 06:13.43 | TimRiker | what creates the null flag? |
| 06:13.44 | Jormungandr | just specific NULL flag |
| 06:13.46 | Jormungandr | dunno |
| 06:13.53 | Jormungandr | that's the problem :) |
| 06:13.58 | TimRiker | Patalbor221: looking.... |
| 06:14.07 | MrApathyCream | The flags start out as Null, and then you overright them |
| 06:14.08 | Jormungandr | I have 30K strace of when MAC got booted. |
| 06:14.14 | Patalbor221 | cus that's the ENTIRE reason I got the box, was to write for it |
| 06:14.24 | MrApathyCream | so if the count is off, i'm guessing it leaves it as Null |
| 06:14.35 | Jormungandr | count off? |
| 06:14.40 | TimRiker | Patalbor221: here -> http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php |
| 06:15.08 | Jormungandr | if anyone thinks they can make sense of the trace, I'll dcc it. |
| 06:15.38 | TimRiker | Jormungandr: probably not. need to have a trace of how the flag got created. |
| 06:15.48 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 06:15.52 | TimRiker | you know about the "/flag list" right? |
| 06:16.02 | MrApathyCream | i bet the Nulls are at the end |
| 06:16.07 | Patalbor221 | then hit all 20 solder pts on the damned box |
| 06:16.45 | TimRiker | yeah, I figure the Matrix is worth no moding the box. |
| 06:16.53 | Jormungandr | I can dcc you the conf file I am using, too. |
| 06:17.02 | Patalbor221 | how does it work? |
| 06:17.02 | Jormungandr | I might be doing something wrong in the conf. |
| 06:17.12 | MrApathyCream | Jormungandr: please send the conf file (dcc) |
| 06:17.20 | TimRiker | though you can no reflash the built in bios, so I think it would be interesting to start http://XboxHosting.com/ that uses xbox linux servers. ;-) |
| 06:17.28 | MrApathyCream | nuke password first |
| 06:17.50 | TimRiker | oh, looks like someone had the same thought. |
| 06:17.57 | Patalbor221 | ohh so you can't ever take it live |
| 06:17.59 | Patalbor221 | hmmm |
| 06:18.06 | Patalbor221 | I may get the swiched one then |
| 06:18.07 | TimRiker | Jormungandr: do the same options on the command line cause the same issue? |
| 06:18.17 | Jormungandr | haven't tried |
| 06:18.27 | TimRiker | the Matrix has switches, though they are internal. |
| 06:18.43 | TimRiker | and you can always remove it and get back to unmodded. |
| 06:19.03 | Patalbor221 | is it a clip one? |
| 06:19.12 | Patalbor221 | like clip onto bios? |
| 06:19.34 | TimRiker | 1 screw and a mess of sharp pins on the bottom from what I can tell. Mine's not here yet. |
| 06:20.02 | TimRiker | so it attaches to existing points on the board. |
| 06:20.08 | MrApathyCream | hm, numFlags = 21 |
| 06:23.00 | Patalbor221 | hmmm and fmod supports the x-box too, I wonder if it's linux version will work with the audio hardware |
| 06:23.06 | Patalbor221 | be nice to have hardware dolby |
| 06:24.14 | Patalbor221 | this what you got?http://www.the-console-corner.com/the_matrix.htm |
| 06:24.58 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: so is the F bug fixed now? ie: are you happy with your changes? |
| 06:25.20 | MrApathyCream | Yes, (F) is fixed, although in the client |
| 06:25.53 | TimRiker | Patalbor221: yeah, that's what I ordered. |
| 06:26.45 | TimRiker | http://www.easybuy2000.com/store/xbox/matrix.shtml <- I ordered here. |
| 06:26.55 | Jormungandr | :/ |
| 06:27.05 | Patalbor221 | if you need the bios for it I have it |
| 06:27.08 | TimRiker | checkout the production pictures on the same page. ;-) |
| 06:27.21 | TimRiker | I've got 6 or 8 bios images so far. |
| 06:27.54 | Patalbor221 | I'm gonna get another drive for mine so I don't blow out my games |
| 06:28.22 | Jormungandr | no crash in server from command line so far |
| 06:32.33 | Jormungandr | I'm pretty confident it's only with conf file. |
| 06:33.11 | TimRiker | http://www.xbox.com/system/advanced+av+pack.htm?cs_catalog=cat%2dus <- I wonder if Linux would like that setup? |
| 06:33.45 | MrApathyCream | Hmmm the first 5 flags are the ones listed with +f, then server sends 6th on and dies on getAbbreviation |
| 06:33.53 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: cool, then old clients will have a reason to upgrade, else F == NoShot ;-) |
| 06:34.08 | MrApathyCream | correct |
| 06:34.29 | MrApathyCream | where do random gen flags get assigned... checking |
| 06:34.30 | Jormungandr | MAC, problem only with config file. |
| 06:34.36 | MrApathyCream | ooof |
| 06:34.40 | Jormungandr | cuz I am doing on command line |
| 06:34.42 | Jormungandr | and it works. |
| 06:34.46 | Jormungandr | no crashies |
| 06:34.48 | MrApathyCream | ok, thanks |
| 06:34.50 | MrApathyCream | checking... |
| 06:34.51 | Jormungandr | np |
| 06:36.11 | TimRiker | bzfs.cxx:595: warning: member initializers for `float WorldInfo::maxHeight' |
| 06:36.11 | TimRiker | bzfs.cxx:596: warning: and `struct WorldInfo::ObstacleLocation * WorldInfo::walls' |
| 06:36.11 | TimRiker | bzfs.cxx:949: warning: will be re-ordered to match declaration order |
| 06:36.26 | MrApathyCream | wow cranky compiler |
| 06:36.29 | Jormungandr | saw that earlier |
| 06:37.22 | Jormungandr | I wish I understood most programming stuff... but I do okay for an old adminny type. |
| 06:37.49 | MrApathyCream | fixing |
| 06:37.55 | Jormungandr | found problem? |
| 06:38.23 | MrApathyCream | fixing compile warning.. :) |
| 06:38.28 | Jormungandr | heh |
| 06:38.32 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 06:39.39 | TimRiker | oops, forgot to remove my hack and kicked folks from dragon |
| 06:39.55 | TimRiker | at least I didn't check it into cvs though. ;-) |
| 06:40.23 | Jormungandr | ut oh |
| 06:40.32 | Jormungandr | chris was wondering why he got booted |
| 06:40.37 | Jormungandr | and everyone else. |
| 06:41.15 | Jormungandr | he wants to know where you live ;) |
| 06:41.36 | TimRiker | heh |
| 06:43.31 | captain_proton | eegh, i'm blanking on this |
| 06:43.56 | captain_proton | when i set a scissor for a 'view', i set the viewport to the width and height of the scissor but at position 0,0? |
| 06:47.44 | Jormungandr | my machine spontenously rebooted again. :( |
| 06:48.11 | scanline | captain_proton: wouldn't the position be the bottom-left corner of the view? |
| 06:48.29 | captain_proton | scanline: thats what i'm wondering |
| 06:48.36 | captain_proton | the scissor is set like that |
| 06:48.40 | captain_proton | but i'm not sure the viewport is |
| 06:48.59 | scanline | why change the viewport if you're scissoring? |
| 06:49.01 | TimRiker | Jormungandr: hmm. |
| 06:49.25 | captain_proton | scanline: because the aspect ratio may be different depending on how the views are set up |
| 06:49.40 | Jormungandr | it's my evil vid card |
| 06:49.50 | Jormungandr | I'm getting it replaced |
| 06:49.58 | scanline | captain_proton: that's just a function of the projection matrix though, not the viewport, isn't it? |
| 06:50.35 | scanline | I considered scissor for picogui's clipping, but used clip planes instead |
| 06:56.13 | scanline | :) |
| 06:56.40 | MrApathyCream | hmm maybe found it |
| 06:57.25 | MrApathyCream | Jormungandr: can you try this bzfs.cxx please? |
| 07:08.24 | Jormungandr | it timed out. |
| 07:09.03 | MrApathyCream | cvs co |
| 07:09.09 | MrApathyCream | er, cvs up |
| 07:09.09 | Jormungandr | will do. |
| 07:10.09 | Jormungandr | updating. |
| 07:11.11 | Jormungandr | compiling |
| 07:14.50 | Jormungandr | server running on 5255 |
| 07:17.00 | Jormungandr | what WAS wrong, MAC? |
| 07:17.02 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 07:17.10 | Jormungandr | it's happy now. *HRAY!* |
| 07:21.25 | MrApathyCream | flaf array allocated was too big, due to 'recursive nature' of -conf |
| 07:21.58 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 07:22.01 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 07:22.03 | Jormungandr | thanks for the fix |
| 07:22.54 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: congrats ;-) |
| 07:23.37 | TimRiker | no checks for player speed yet, right? |
| 07:23.41 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 07:24.02 | MrApathyCream | we get into lag-domain there, was sceeered to attempt it |
| 07:24.29 | TimRiker | no, I mean check vel[0-2] against flag type. |
| 07:25.08 | TimRiker | could test always against HS for an easy test. |
| 07:26.01 | TimRiker | one issue will be... client has HS (ok, V) and and is moving fast... |
| 07:26.02 | MrApathyCream | oh... yeah that would be ok |
| 07:26.21 | TimRiker | client sends drop flag, still moving, server confirms drop flag. |
| 07:26.29 | MrApathyCream | well, (V) will have lag problems caused by flag drop/flag grab |
| 07:26.46 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:26.55 | TimRiker | I _think_ that the client slows the moment it sends the drop. |
| 07:27.02 | MrApathyCream | one would hope |
| 07:27.11 | MrApathyCream | 'another reason for upgrades' ;) |
| 07:27.13 | TimRiker | so it _should_ be ok. |
| 07:27.30 | MrApathyCream | is momentum slower? |
| 07:28.02 | TimRiker | client does wait for server grab reply before speeding up. I know that side is ok. |
| 07:28.12 | MrApathyCream | kul |
| 07:28.36 | TimRiker | I don't think so. check global.h it has most all the flag modifiers. |
| 07:29.27 | MrApathyCream | nope, nothing is < 1.0 |
| 07:29.28 | TimRiker | MomentumLinAcc MomentumAngAcc so I'd guess no mod on turn or forward/backward speed. |
| 07:29.42 | captain_proton | grr i thought i moved those flag modifiers into BZDB |
| 07:29.44 | captain_proton | >:) |
| 07:29.55 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:30.01 | MrApathyCream | a tease? |
| 07:30.06 | captain_proton | TimRiker: its for the MagnetFlag - look up - its got "//unimplemented" |
| 07:30.32 | TimRiker | it's only in the header. /me removes it. |
| 07:30.39 | MrApathyCream | what ever you do, don't redefine MagnetPower to be > 0.0 |
| 07:30.49 | MrApathyCream | all h*** will break lose |
| 07:31.13 | scanline | is it worse than crossing the beams? |
| 07:31.25 | captain_proton | scanline: MUCH worse |
| 07:31.58 | scanline | it could create a time paradox unleashing a chain reaction that would destroy the entire universe! |
| 07:32.02 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@d511322c.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 07:32.25 | scanline | of course the effects could just be limited to our own galaxy |
| 07:32.57 | TimRiker | ~google for captain_proton |
| 07:33.21 | scanline | hmm, apparently somebody's logging #picogui |
| 07:33.31 | scanline | oh, those |
| 07:33.50 | sussudio | ~google for cashews nausea |
| 07:34.01 | captain_proton | ohh my |
| 07:34.09 | captain_proton | bizzare how the first 4 hits are actually me |
| 07:34.22 | captain_proton | sussudio: good idea |
| 07:34.28 | scanline | I was really surprised when about the first 6 pages or so on google were me :) |
| 07:34.55 | scanline | ~google for tim riker |
| 07:35.09 | TimRiker | heh, that'll be more that 4 hits. ;-) |
| 07:35.15 | scanline | :) |
| 07:35.19 | scanline | ~google for micah dowty |
| 07:35.36 | sussudio | ~google for sussudio isdn |
| 07:35.39 | scanline | I wonder how far down my old game boy stuff has sunk on the google listings... |
| 07:36.10 | sussudio | =:-B |
| 07:37.19 | captain_proton | my name is common enough that i'm not too many of the google hits |
| 07:38.03 | sussudio | 16F outside :-| |
| 07:38.11 | scanline | sussudio: lucky bastard |
| 07:38.14 | captain_proton | mmmmmm |
| 07:38.18 | captain_proton | cashews....my precious |
| 07:38.40 | sussudio | dont you hate it when there's a pistachio shell in your cashews |
| 07:39.34 | TimRiker | captain_proton: it helps to try in quotes, but you probably knew that. |
| 07:39.54 | scanline | ~google "kung foo" |
| 07:40.04 | captain_proton | TimRiker: not terribly |
| 07:40.32 | captain_proton | TimRiker: there was some famous david trowbridge who lived around 1790, a physicist, a guy who used to write for pc magazine... |
| 07:40.37 | captain_proton | ~sud |
| 07:40.38 | | bzdoug is my friend, or shut up dave |
| 07:40.46 | captain_proton | ....interesting |
| 07:40.58 | captain_proton | ibot, no, sud is <reply>shut up doug |
| 07:40.59 | | captain_proton: okay |
| 07:41.12 | captain_proton | yes, lock! |
| 07:41.13 | TimRiker | captain_proton: those aren't you? ;-) |
| 07:41.25 | captain_proton | TimRiker: why of course they are! |
| 07:41.36 | TimRiker | ~lock sud |
| 07:41.36 | | locking factoid sud, TimRiker |
| 07:42.25 | scanline | ibot: emulate doc brown is <reply> 1.21 jiggawatts! Great scott! |
| 07:42.26 | | okay, scanline |
| 07:43.34 | captain_proton | oh god |
| 07:43.37 | captain_proton | i'm a windows programmer |
| 07:43.45 | scanline | haha |
| 07:43.57 | captain_proton | http://www.wellsregister.com/dotnetarchitectsummit/Agenda.htm |
| 07:45.01 | scanline | at least you're doing a talk on design patterns rather than Microsoft Visual C# Basic++ .NET 2000 XP Special Edition Pro |
| 07:45.32 | captain_proton | thats not all |
| 07:45.43 | scanline | EGAD |
| 07:45.52 | scanline | windows .net server? Where did your parents go wrong! |
| 07:47.35 | scanline | you could do it with python.net and picogui.net! |
| 07:47.49 | captain_proton | why, of course! |
| 07:48.06 | scanline | and opengl.net with the power of vertex.net and texture.net! |
| 07:48.27 | captain_proton | eeegh |
| 07:48.27 | scanline | why use those nonstandard binary protocols for uploading textures when you can use MIME and XML-RPC! |
| 07:48.30 | captain_proton | damn you sussudio |
| 07:48.31 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker: MsgPlayerUpdate unpacking on server side is offset based, due to lack of include based header, ok? |
| 07:55.20 | sussudio | muhaha |
| 07:56.03 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: I'd prefer we clean up the source so pack/unpack and needed classes are visable in bzfs. |
| 07:56.10 | TimRiker | duplicated code sucks. |
| 07:56.19 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 07:57.27 | TimRiker | you saw how I did the shot checks? there is a constuctor that needs baselocalplayer which needs a whole mess of stuff, so I left that method elsewhere and moved the rest of the code to common. |
| 07:57.57 | TimRiker | and just added "class BaseLocalPlayer;" to the header so it would compile. |
| 08:04.07 | MrApathyCream | will look |
| 08:04.53 | MrApathyCream | [ot] what about splitting up bzfs.cxx |
| 08:05.37 | sussudio | ~google for sussudio bunnies |
| 08:06.04 | sussudio | hmm |
| 08:06.17 | Widget | Wer reitet so spaet durch Nacht und Wind? Es ist der Vater mit seinem Kind. |
| 08:06.42 | sussudio | bratwurst |
| 08:06.51 | Widget | Er hat den Knaben wohl in dem Arm, Er fasst ihn sicher, er haelt ihn warm. |
| 08:07.28 | scanline | MrApathyCream: I get scared easily by humongous files... upon seeing playing.cxx I had to pick my jaw up off the floor :) |
| 08:09.05 | cashews_nausea | scanline: wow, Surface.cpp must terrify you |
| 08:09.10 | cashews_nausea | ;) |
| 08:09.17 | scanline | surface is getting on the big side, yes |
| 08:09.35 | scanline | I have very few files over 1000 lines in my projects... |
| 08:10.00 | scanline | but isn't playing.cxx something like 7000 lines? |
| 08:10.36 | scanline | oh, only 5448 :P |
| 08:10.55 | scanline | surface is only 1256 :) |
| 08:11.24 | cashews_nausea | heh |
| 08:11.42 | cashews_nausea | hmm, 12k in js |
| 08:12.32 | scanline | ah.. this song has such a cool intro |
| 08:12.54 | MrApathyCream | TimRiker: So pull out member variables that are unpacked into a separate class, and add a member to Player that is this class? |
| 08:12.57 | cashews_nausea | scanline: which song? |
| 08:13.24 | scanline | About the first minute and a half of /navi/public/media/music/chris_archive/trance/DJ\ Vernimal\ -\ Egression\ CD2\ -\ Trance\ Mix.mp3 |
| 08:17.31 | cashews_nausea | haah |
| 08:17.42 | cashews_nausea | majel must have been on vacation for this episode...different computer voice |
| 08:18.56 | scanline | if only there was an ldcache... |
| 08:19.16 | cashews_nausea | =) |
| 08:20.22 | scanline | I wonder if it would make any difference if we compiled that file without -g? |
| 08:20.54 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: bzfs.cxx does not really bother me as large as it is. I would like to start sharing more between the client and server though. kill all the dupe code we can. |
| 08:22.48 | TimRiker | MrApathyCream: that would work, sure. I have not dug into it yet. If the answer is not clear, write up a proposal and email me. I better get some sleep. |
| 08:24.15 | cashews_nausea | egads |
| 08:24.36 | cashews_nausea | evil evil nuts |
| 08:28.24 | sussudio | go on, 1 more wont hurt |
| 08:30.09 | scanline | cashews_nausea: holycow jetstream links faster without -g on pythonwrapper |
| 08:30.23 | scanline | micah@yoshi jetstream $ rm jetstream; time make |
| 08:30.24 | cashews_nausea | omg |
| 08:30.26 | scanline | real 0m2.069s |
| 08:31.11 | scanline | not like boost generates anything resembling usable debug symbols anyway :) |
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| 08:32.54 | cashews_nausea | indeed |
| 08:44.51 | cashews_nausea | scanline: you'll like this: to turn a sun monochrome monitor into a solbourne monochrome monitor, you have to open it up and adjust the hsync potentiometer =) |
| 08:45.05 | scanline | hah |
| 08:45.08 | scanline | cool |
| 08:46.15 | scanline | Reminds me of this cute little greeon-on-black CRT I got used for $5... and zapped myself several times on while trying to figure out the pinout |
| 08:46.25 | cashews_nausea | eek |
| 08:46.34 | cashews_nausea | zapping oneself with a CRT can be...dangerous |
| 08:46.59 | scanline | wasn't the CRT voltage, I think it was the something from the sweep generator |
| 08:47.06 | scanline | quite tingly |
| 08:47.24 | cashews_nausea | oh i know it wasn't the CRT voltage |
| 08:47.27 | cashews_nausea | because i'm talking with you |
| 08:47.34 | scanline | it was also a very small CRT |
| 08:47.35 | scanline | 4" |
| 08:47.44 | scanline | powered from 12V DC |
| 08:47.51 | cashews_nausea | cute |
| 08:48.43 | cashews_nausea | oh my |
| 08:48.51 | scanline | an old TV flyback coil and a few D cells can be fun at parties |
| 08:48.59 | cashews_nausea | some people in an irc server far far away just came up with the idea of a combo coffee shop/strip joint |
| 08:49.25 | scanline | I hope they give the strippers coffee burn insurance |
| 08:49.39 | cashews_nausea | specifically one person mentioned body shots of espresso....*shakes head* |
| 08:50.13 | scanline | sounds like something prpplague would like |
| 08:54.04 | scanline | Of *course* my distances are wrong, I was normalizing the frustum planes... |
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| 08:54.35 | cashews_nausea | egads |
| 08:56.42 | sussudio | cashews and ragout dont mix |
| 08:57.18 | cashews_nausea | scanline: ohh - another fun thing: there are PILES of IPC/IPXes - so i think when i get an apt i need to use them for bookshelves like my coworker does |
| 08:57.37 | scanline | how soon you think that will be? :) |
| 08:57.49 | cashews_nausea | dunno - probably for next fall |
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| 09:00.36 | ghoti | hey, I have a slight problem. When i start bzflag it does not resize to fill my screen. My res is 1024x768 and bzflag is also set to this. Any ideas? as i cahnge resolutions in bz the screen changes as it should however the actuall bz window remains a small window in the top right that wont let my mouse escape |
| 09:01.01 | cashews_nausea | ghoti: what version? |
| 09:01.13 | MrApathyCream | check you bzflag.bzc file |
| 09:01.30 | cashews_nausea | ghoti: also, what operating system? |
| 09:01.45 | ghoti | gentoo, 1.7g0 |
| 09:02.29 | cashews_nausea | hm |
| 09:06.00 | ghoti | is it likly to be an X problem or a bz problem? |
| 09:06.30 | cashews_nausea | ghoti: what do you see in the video format options screen? |
| 09:07.00 | ghoti | 800x600 @85 and 1024x768 @85 |
| 09:07.17 | ghoti | which is funny as my screen wont do 85hz |
| 09:07.20 | cashews_nausea | what does it say your current is? |
| 09:07.31 | ghoti | i tried to set it to 70 in the config file but it didnt stay |
| 09:07.45 | ghoti | 1024x768 @85 is what it claims to be at |
| 09:07.56 | scanline | whee |
| 09:08.36 | cashews_nausea | scanline: progresso? |
| 09:08.45 | scanline | indeedo |
| 09:08.46 | cashews_nausea | ghoti: care to send me your X config? |
| 09:09.02 | scanline | cashews_nausea: I'm uploading a movie |
| 09:09.03 | ghoti | oh and also it detects my gf4mx400 as a gf2mx |
| 09:09.31 | ghoti | cashews_nausea: XF86Config? hold on a sec (other computer) |
| 09:09.37 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, plug and play should auto detect that... hmm |
| 09:09.43 | cashews_nausea | MrApathyCream: eegh |
| 09:09.48 | cashews_nausea | ghoti: bzflag said gf2mx? |
| 09:09.59 | cashews_nausea | because bzflag is just printing the GL string... |
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| 09:10.44 | cashews_nausea | MrApathyCream: you've gotta help me...these damned cashews are too much of a draw |
| 09:12.57 | cashews_nausea | ghoti: well first off, get rid of 'Load "dri"' |
| 09:13.40 | ghoti | why? with it there all my X programs zip along? i get like 5x fps in some things with it there |
| 09:13.46 | cashews_nausea | i'd also eliminate 'DefaultFbBpp 16' |
| 09:14.00 | cashews_nausea | ghoti: the 'dri' module is for non-nvidia 3d acceleration |
| 09:14.10 | ghoti | strange, hold on ill check |
| 09:14.33 | MrApathyCream | cashews_nausea: does current cvs build for you? |
| 09:14.54 | ghoti | ahh i stand corrected, ok gone |
| 09:15.18 | cashews_nausea | however, i don't see any strange things that would cause problems with bz |
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| 09:15.43 | scanline | cashews_nausea: diamond-test3.avi is up, diamond-test4.avi will be up in about 2 minutes |
| 09:16.00 | ghoti | tuxracer seems fine |
| 09:16.06 | MrApathyCream | any *nix dev, can you build latest cvs? |
| 09:16.18 | cashews_nausea | MrApathyCream: updating... |
| 09:16.44 | ghoti | the only thing i can think of is when i ctrl alt keypad(+) to 800x600 my screen zooms in |
| 09:17.02 | ghoti | as in teh display is 800x600 but the desktop is still 1024x768 |
| 09:17.11 | cashews_nausea | ghoti: thats standard X behavior |
| 09:17.23 | ghoti | can it be turned off? |
| 09:17.34 | cashews_nausea | you could get rid of the 800x600 mode... |
| 09:17.39 | ghoti | i did ages ago (havent used linux in a few years) |
| 09:17.42 | scanline | the X desktop can't be resized without a server restart |
| 09:17.47 | cashews_nausea | So, apparently, Senate Majority Leader Frist did indeed kill kittens. Yes. He killed kittens. |
| 09:17.52 | ghoti | hmm |
| 09:18.08 | scanline | (unless you're using a CVS x server, AFAIK) |
| 09:18.29 | ghoti | im not so thats no risk but its nice to know its comming |
| 09:19.15 | cashews_nausea | MrApathyCream: compiles fine |
| 09:19.20 | cashews_nausea | scanline: 4 up? |
| 09:19.24 | scanline | yep |
| 09:19.37 | cashews_nausea | 3 looks good :) |
| 09:20.19 | scanline | I don't like that little bump on the silhouette of the sphere that appeared while zooming in.. decreasing the maxTeseelationErrorSquared fixed it, but i get paranoid that it's something serious :) |
| 09:20.33 | scanline | 4 shows the frustum culling in action using the Frustum Lock checkbox |
| 09:20.39 | MrApathyCream | cashews_nausea: danka |
| 09:20.47 | MrApathyCream | sl33p |
| 09:21.03 | scanline | I need to fix some buglets in the frustum culling still, then I'll see what I can do about making some SurfaceModifiers so we have something more interesting than a completely black sphere :) |
| 09:21.18 | cashews_nausea | buglets? |
| 09:21.31 | Jormungandr | restarted server with newest cvs. |
| 09:21.32 | Jormungandr | yay |
| 09:22.02 | cashews_nausea | hmm |
| 09:22.07 | scanline | two that I noticed- I think I got the test reversed so that triangles that overlap the frustum edge disappear, and it's still possible for triangles to get really close to the camera and subdivide like crazy (that actually crashed jetstream at the end of movie 3) |
| 09:22.10 | cashews_nausea | seems bzflag has remembered my locale setting of en_US_l33t |
| 09:22.57 | scanline | But, no more strange line artifacts.. those were resulting from me normalizing the frustum planes :) |
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| 09:23.08 | bomber | moin |
| 09:23.40 | cashews_nausea | scanline: so the subdivision bug is when it tests for an error on a clipped triangle? or what? |
| 09:25.11 | scanline | cashews_nausea: no. I'm doing a bounding sphere test on the quadtree nodes, which almost always is good enough, but if there's a false positive very close to the near frustum plane it can end up trying to calculate triangles that are behind the camera. Those will be big when projected, so they subdivide a lot |
| 09:25.33 | scanline | you usually end up with a line of really really dense triangles right behind the camera |
| 09:25.58 | scanline | I'll just fix it so if the sphere overlaps the near plane at all it culls it |
| 09:27.58 | scanline | LZO is really pretty good in wireframe mode :) |
| 09:28.44 | scanline | RTJpeg completely butchers it... though from what I've seen RTJpeg performs ok on photorealistic images |
| 09:30.35 | sussudio | -|- (They_Might_Be_Giants)_Birdhouse_In_Your_Soul.mp3 (3,210,890 bytes 128kbps Joint Stereo 3mins 21secs Genre:Alternative Year:1990 Album:Flood |
| 09:31.39 | scanline | *-* DJ_Vernimal_-_Ingression_(CD2).mp3 (369283262 bytes 128kbps blah blah who cares what I'm listening to?) |
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| 09:39.15 | cashews_nausea | i need to be on in 5 minutes or i won't get the next episode :( |
| 09:39.59 | sussudio | that's not going to happen |
| 09:40.30 | cashews_nausea | scanline: eek |
| 09:40.31 | sussudio | it's been getting DDoSed for the last 5 hours |
| 09:40.40 | cashews_nausea | sussudio: yeah >:| |
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| 09:40.52 | scanline | hmm.. will need sectors before it's possible to fly from one planet to another without hitting floating point resolution limits though |
| 09:43.20 | *** part/#bzflag ghoti (~alex060a@c16572.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 09:44.16 | scanline | gonkulator: problems with your connection? |
| 09:44.24 | gonkulator | just a few.. |
| 09:46.06 | sussudio | kazaa? |
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| 09:50.43 | *** part/#bzflag jneves (~Really@a212-113-187-169.netcabo.pt) |
| 09:53.38 | gonkulator | bah |
| 09:53.41 | gonkulator | this sucks |
| 09:54.32 | sussudio | :-| |
| 09:54.37 | sussudio | what songs you looking for |
| 09:55.50 | gonkulator | sussudio: slow dancing songs |
| 09:56.01 | gonkulator | for my parents |
| 09:56.04 | scanline | Dune - Hardcore Vibes :) |
| 09:56.11 | sussudio | err |
| 09:56.16 | sussudio | how is that hard to find? |
| 09:56.36 | gonkulator | sussudio: not all that hard... |
| 09:56.42 | gonkulator | just time consuming |
| 09:56.48 | sussudio | with kazaa? |
| 09:58.59 | cashews_nausea | gonkulator: http://bzflag.net:3000/music/Bach_Johann_Sebastian/unaccompanied_cello_suite_02_d/02_allemande.ogg |
| 09:59.12 | cashews_nausea | eek |
| 09:59.14 | cashews_nausea | wrong one |
| 09:59.29 | cashews_nausea | http://bzflag.net:3000/music/Bach_Johann_Sebastian/unaccompanied_cello_suite_05_c/02_allemande.ogg |
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| 10:14.14 | cashews_nausea | bedtime |
| 10:14.29 | scanline | night captain cashews |
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| 11:37.26 | Chestal | tag |
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| 12:16.20 | prodan | veal |
| 12:17.08 | sussudio | PIG |
| 12:17.18 | prodan | veal |
| 12:17.49 | sussudio | ~pig veal |
| 12:17.51 | | veal is 63% pig! |
| 12:18.33 | prodan | can i ask a question sussudio? (grin) |
| 12:18.45 | sussudio | pig. |
| 12:19.08 | prodan | well readin rule 1), what do i do when i want to ask the question: can i ask a question |
| 12:19.39 | sussudio | sacrifice a pig to make wienerschnitzel ofcourse |
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| 12:25.12 | Ruudi | hi |
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| 12:50.33 | bzgirl | hello |
| 12:57.53 | Hamster_AFK | hello |
| 12:57.59 | Secret_Hamster | I'm depressed |
| 13:01.51 | bzgirl | why? |
| 13:02.24 | Secret_Hamster | no job (still) |
| 13:02.37 | Secret_Hamster | and I've no idea how to retrain as an electrician |
| 13:02.47 | Secret_Hamster | it seems it's a big secret in this country |
| 13:03.29 | bzgirl | what country? |
| 13:04.26 | Secret_Hamster | UK |
| 13:10.29 | Secret_Hamster | I'm off to kill a few tanks |
| 13:21.16 | Secret_Hamster | okay perhaps not |
| 13:21.28 | Secret_Hamster | bba lunch |
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| 13:35.52 | rooter | hello all |
| 13:36.13 | rooter | ducati is unusually quiet |
| 13:36.31 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 13:37.00 | rooter | hmmm |
| 13:40.32 | bzgirl | hi root |
| 13:41.00 | rooter | hello |
| 13:41.02 | rooter | want to play? |
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| 13:42.35 | bomber | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:46.59 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 13:47.12 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 13:47.19 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 13:47.22 | bzgirl | root can you connect now? |
| 13:47.26 | rooter | nope |
| 13:47.28 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 13:47.32 | bzgirl | hmm |
| 13:47.43 | rooter | bomber must have reset |
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| 13:47.44 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 13:47.52 | rooter | grrr |
| 13:47.54 | bzgirl | i cant either |
| 13:47.57 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 13:48.02 | rooter | bomber... you there? |
| 13:48.09 | susstest | stupidass bitchx doesnt work with monochrome monitors |
| 13:48.17 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 13:48.41 | rooter | monochrome? yikes |
| 13:48.42 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 13:49.13 | rooter | Chestal: could you see what's wrong with ducati? |
| 13:49.16 | rooter | ibot ducatictf |
| 13:49.29 | Chestal | hmm, the serevr think's it is full |
| 13:49.31 | Chestal | but I doubt that |
| 13:49.37 | bzgirl | its empty |
| 13:49.41 | Chestal | I know that at leaster bomber is on there |
| 13:49.52 | Chestal | I'll kill it |
| 13:50.35 | bomber | yes i was there |
| 13:50.39 | bomber | n:o)) |
| 13:50.40 | bzgirl | its ok now, thnx |
| 13:50.44 | susstest | bleh it's just a masq/firewall. dont want to put a bigass monitor here |
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| 14:37.25 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: Changes ok, from your end? |
| 14:38.41 | Chestal | the server side checks? |
| 14:39.14 | Chestal | what's the deal with rapid fire and the client fix? |
| 14:40.31 | bzdoug__ | is there a fix for bullets that travel for long distances |
| 14:43.05 | Chestal | hehe, had a funny effect when I just did cvs up and make |
| 14:43.16 | bzdoug__ | hehe |
| 14:43.27 | Chestal | because of some missing dependencies, not all files were recompiled that should have |
| 14:43.35 | bzdoug__ | lol |
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| 14:43.37 | Chestal | result was that my radar heading was tied to my tank speed |
| 14:43.45 | bzdoug__ | hah |
| 14:43.59 | bzdoug__ | ~pig Spiny_Norman |
| 14:44.03 | bzdoug__ | ~nickometer Spiny_Norman |
| 14:44.10 | Spiny_Norman | i'm a hedgehog you dumbass |
| 14:44.30 | bzdoug__ | eh? |
| 14:44.50 | Spiny_Norman | ~sud |
| 14:46.25 | Spiny_Norman | http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Dinsdale |
| 14:46.32 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: Riker makes sure that bullet speed you specify matches what your flag allows |
| 14:46.43 | MrApathyCream | Also shot lifetime |
| 14:46.49 | bzdoug__ | ah good |
| 14:46.58 | MrApathyCream | In case of (F) calculated liftetime was 1.75, yet sent lifetime was 3.0 |
| 14:47.03 | MrApathyCream | so Shot was disallowed |
| 14:47.29 | MrApathyCream | Reason was that the FiringInfo that was sent was the one passed into the Shot constructor |
| 14:47.30 | Chestal | hum |
| 14:47.37 | MrApathyCream | But that one wasn't modified |
| 14:47.46 | MrApathyCream | the one in the shot itself was, so send that one instaead |
| 14:48.02 | Chestal | wouldn't that mean that rapid fire shots from other players have the full distance? |
| 14:48.12 | Chestal | or does the client modify it when it receives the message once more? |
| 14:48.23 | MrApathyCream | i think client modifies it |
| 14:49.10 | Chestal | hmm, server says my mg shots are too fast when I drive forward while shooting |
| 14:49.31 | Chestal | 187.5 instead of 175 |
| 14:49.37 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 14:49.59 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: Is Radar heading/tank speed issue resolved now? |
| 14:50.13 | *** part/#bzflag rooter (~mad@zoom.westga.edu) |
| 14:50.13 | Chestal | Mr: yes, after a make clean |
| 14:50.32 | MrApathyCream | Ah yes, i flipped the order of the structure to match the network packet format |
| 14:50.35 | Chestal | but at first I was suprised :-) |
| 14:51.01 | MrApathyCream | As for MG.... checking |
| 14:51.53 | Chestal | hmm, I have a suspect |
| 14:53.14 | MrApathyCream | Ok server thinks shotspeed should be 1.5 |
| 14:53.29 | MrApathyCream | er 150 |
| 14:54.00 | bzdoug__ | 1.5 would be slow |
| 14:54.07 | bzdoug__ | :) |
| 14:54.26 | Chestal | where is the shooting done in playing.cxx? |
| 14:54.56 | MrApathyCream | Well LocalPlayer.cxxx line771 |
| 14:55.08 | MrApathyCream | I believe |
| 14:56.46 | Chestal | ah, had to locate FIringInfo :-) |
| 14:57.02 | MrApathyCream | Hmmm, MGunAdVel gets added to x,y and z |
| 14:57.11 | MrApathyCream | That seems wrong |
| 14:57.55 | Chestal | uhm |
| 14:58.01 | MrApathyCream | Or at least not what one would expect |
| 14:58.16 | Chestal | I am confused, where is FIringInfo c'tor? |
| 14:58.25 | MrApathyCream | ShotUpdate maybe? |
| 14:58.30 | MrApathyCream | in common? |
| 14:58.40 | Chestal | urgs, it's still in SHotPath.cxx |
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| 14:58.58 | Chestal | problem is this obviously |
| 14:59.14 | Chestal | client calc of shotspeed: (tankspeed+shotspeed)*mod |
| 14:59.22 | Chestal | server: shotspeed*mod+tankspeed |
| 14:59.47 | MrApathyCream | Hmm, i don't think so. |
| 14:59.53 | MrApathyCream | Client never sends ShotSpeed, does it? |
| 15:00.02 | MrApathyCream | Server infers shotspeed from hypot-ing the vel |
| 15:00.22 | MrApathyCream | But does it wrong for MG because speed up is not applied to hypot |
| 15:00.30 | MrApathyCream | but to each component |
| 15:00.40 | Chestal | ShotSpeed=constant in global.h |
| 15:00.46 | MrApathyCream | Right |
| 15:01.09 | Chestal | no, it must be applied to eacdh component, it's multiplicated |
| 15:01.52 | Chestal | but client calcs: (100+25)*1.5=187.5 and server 100*1.5+25=175 |
| 15:02.08 | Chestal | hmm, this client-side lifetime bug is evil |
| 15:02.19 | Chestal | old clients cannot use rapid fire or machine gun |
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| 15:03.05 | MrApathyCream | If velocity was a unit vector that would work |
| 15:03.10 | MrApathyCream | but it's not |
| 15:03.11 | MrApathyCream | right? |
| 15:03.28 | Chestal | it's not, but it works ok :-) |
| 15:04.08 | Chestal | let's say shotspeed=5, vel[0]=3 vel[1]=4 |
| 15:04.32 | Chestal | boost it by 100%: sped=10, vel[0]=6 vel[1]=8 |
| 15:05.54 | Chestal | I wonder whether the client shot speed cals has changed lately? |
| 15:06.08 | Chestal | using e6, the server is satisfied with my mg shots |
| 15:07.01 | Chestal | server cals makes more sense anyway |
| 15:10.26 | MrApathyCream | Hmmm the client has a base shot speed of 125 |
| 15:10.29 | Chestal | hmm, strange |
| 15:10.29 | MrApathyCream | for mg |
| 15:10.33 | MrApathyCream | before MG Speed up |
| 15:10.38 | MrApathyCream | when calculated from vel |
| 15:10.40 | Chestal | yes, liek I said |
| 15:10.51 | Chestal | (100+25)*1.5 |
| 15:11.09 | Chestal | server does 100*1.5+25 |
| 15:11.16 | Chestal | but I wonder why e6 seems to behave differently |
| 15:11.17 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 15:12.51 | Chestal | hmm, indeed, no warning with e6 |
| 15:17.09 | MrApathyCream | well a different firingInfo get sent to the server: see (R) above |
| 15:17.12 | MrApathyCream | er (F) |
| 15:17.47 | Chestal | hmm |
| 15:18.13 | Chestal | without the modification? So we'd expect a speed of 100+25 for machine gun? |
| 15:19.26 | Chestal | indeed |
| 15:20.20 | Chestal | to make sure I really understand what's going on I'll now look into what happens when client receives a shot |
| 15:21.38 | MrApathyCream | gtg will check tonite |
| 15:23.20 | Chestal | hmm, this is broken |
| 15:40.14 | Secret_Hamster | what is the keys to alter you height in observer mode? |
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| 15:41.34 | *** part/#bzflag Sniper50 (~derwese@c-4b8770d5.09-28-6c756e1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 15:42.57 | Secret_Hamster | bloody hell dal is still under attack |
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| 16:19.49 | esvndc | question about BZEdit? |
| 16:21.02 | esvndc | I take it nobody's here then? |
| 16:21.46 | esvndc | oh well... |
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| 16:42.16 | *** join/#bzflag [TeA] (~Nicholas@pD9E95D5D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:42.27 | [TeA] | Hello :-) |
| 16:42.55 | [TeA] | ~ducatictf |
| 16:43.05 | bzgirl | hi [TeA] |
| 17:28.54 | sussudio | ~pig windows xp |
| 17:28.56 | | windows xp is 47% pig! |
| 17:29.58 | Patlabor221 | ~pig Linux |
| 17:29.59 | | Linux is 86% pig! |
| 17:30.07 | Patlabor221 | not soo good there |
| 17:30.15 | Patlabor221 | ~pig MacOSX |
| 17:30.17 | | MacOSX is 55% pig! |
| 17:30.28 | Patlabor221 | ~pig Amiga |
| 17:30.29 | | Amiga is 38% pig! |
| 17:31.27 | scanline | ~pig spam |
| 17:31.29 | | spam is 39% pig! |
| 17:31.54 | sussudio | ~pig george w bush |
| 17:31.56 | | george w bush is 43% pig! |
| 17:32.02 | scanline | ~pig McDonalds Chicken Nuggets (tm) |
| 17:32.03 | | McDonalds Chicken Nuggets tm is 72% pig! |
| 17:32.08 | sussudio | a ha! |
| 17:33.06 | sussudio | think it's possible to configure anything under XP without saying the word 'fuck' at least 12 times? |
| 17:34.05 | Patlabor221 | sure it is |
| 17:34.12 | Patlabor221 | you just have to not speak english |
| 17:34.22 | sussudio | it was a dutch language xp |
| 17:34.46 | sussudio | like..... when you start IE because there's no other fing browser on the damn laptop.... |
| 17:35.07 | sussudio | "make internet connection". NO you have a f-ing connection, i just hooked you up to the linux masq server |
| 17:35.18 | sussudio | see? ping 10.10.10.1 works, you damn excuse for a browser |
| 17:35.30 | sussudio | it goes on for about 20 mins like that |
| 17:35.32 | sussudio | until it gives in |
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| 17:35.44 | Patlabor221 | then don't use that? |
| 17:35.55 | sussudio | it wasnt my laptop. |
| 17:36.36 | *** join/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E95D5D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:36.42 | [TeA|TrEE] | aaaah |
| 17:37.35 | sussudio | "See that computer?, pretend it's not there, if gives you internet connection" |
| 17:37.45 | sussudio | "touch it and the connection goes away!" |
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| 17:38.09 | Patlabor221 | why not just get her a little router? |
| 17:38.26 | sussudio | bah |
| 17:38.28 | sussudio | it is a router |
| 17:38.38 | [TeA|TrEE] | linux |
| 17:38.45 | Patlabor221 | ohh yeah, hardware routers are just to easy |
| 17:38.50 | sussudio | and they stink |
| 17:38.54 | sussudio | linksys BAH |
| 17:39.03 | Patlabor221 | yes linksys does suck |
| 17:39.11 | Patlabor221 | there are others that are cheaper and better |
| 17:39.16 | sussudio | riiiight..... |
| 17:39.22 | sussudio | cheaper than a 486? |
| 17:39.30 | Patlabor221 | $40 |
| 17:39.31 | Patlabor221 | and faster |
| 17:39.39 | sussudio | "faster", thats just dumb |
| 17:39.44 | Patlabor221 | and you can touch them and the net don't go away |
| 17:40.03 | Patlabor221 | guess it depends on what you want to do with it |
| 17:40.16 | sussudio | masq to 2 pc's |
| 17:40.21 | sussudio | ssh into it |
| 17:40.24 | Patlabor221 | for just simple sharing, setup on the gigabit router is simple |
| 17:40.30 | Patlabor221 | yeah you want the ssh stuff |
| 17:40.31 | sussudio | actually put firewall rules on there |
| 17:40.41 | Patlabor221 | the gia has rules you can set |
| 17:40.46 | sussudio | identd..... |
| 17:40.55 | sussudio | working irc dcc's |
| 17:40.59 | Patlabor221 | and your mom needs all this? |
| 17:41.01 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 17:41.05 | sussudio | yes she does |
| 17:41.07 | sussudio | i told her |
| 17:41.12 | Patlabor221 | I see |
| 17:41.29 | sussudio | hey, it didnt cost her anything, so she's not complaining. |
| 17:41.37 | Patlabor221 | prety techincaly savy mom you got there if she DCCS :) |
| 17:41.40 | [TeA|TrEE] | how can i know the horizontal and vertical from my monitor? |
| 17:41.54 | sussudio | [TeA|TrEE]: rtfmm |
| 17:42.10 | sussudio | Patlabor221: she wants me to play mp3's.... worked easiest through mirc |
| 17:42.13 | Patlabor221 | most 15's do 70-75 htz vert |
| 17:42.23 | [TeA|TrEE] | sussudio> dont know what ya mean |
| 17:42.29 | [TeA|TrEE] | that i know |
| 17:42.31 | Patlabor221 | susudio thats coo |
| 17:42.32 | sussudio | read the fine monitor manual |
| 17:42.40 | Patlabor221 | I don't think he has that |
| 17:42.42 | [TeA|TrEE] | its from 1995 |
| 17:42.46 | sussudio | so? |
| 17:42.48 | [TeA|TrEE] | i havent got ut anymore |
| 17:42.52 | sussudio | make, model? |
| 17:42.55 | Patlabor221 | it sill should do 70 at 800x600 |
| 17:43.11 | Patlabor221 | he dosnt know other then gateway |
| 17:43.18 | sussudio | it's on the back. |
| 17:43.27 | scanline | Just try a mode.. if your resolution is too low increase it, if you smell smoke decrease it |
| 17:43.41 | Patlabor221 | or hear a large poping sound |
| 17:43.58 | sussudio | there's a sticker on the back of your monitor. |
| 17:44.15 | [TeA|TrEE] | it always says Xconfiguartion blablabla coulnt bla video ram |
| 17:44.48 | Patlabor221 | that's the card not the monitor then |
| 17:45.00 | Patlabor221 | what res are you trying to set it to? |
| 17:45.03 | sussudio | [PiG|Tree]: look on the back of the freaking monitor. |
| 17:45.17 | [TeA|TrEE] | yes ...= |
| 17:45.24 | [TeA|TrEE] | there are number |
| 17:45.31 | [TeA|TrEE] | SuSS|SwinE |
| 17:45.34 | Patlabor221 | there must be a model number back there |
| 17:45.39 | [TeA|TrEE] | yes correct |
| 17:45.43 | Patlabor221 | what is that number |
| 17:45.56 | [TeA|TrEE] | ehm |
| 17:46.37 | sussudio | ehm-15? |
| 17:46.38 | [TeA|TrEE] | CPD 15F13 |
| 17:47.15 | sussudio | H Freq/ V Freq: 64 khz / 120 hz |
| 17:47.36 | Patlabor221 | 120? on a 15 at what rez? |
| 17:47.49 | sussudio | hm |
| 17:47.51 | [TeA|TrEE] | just tell my order for order what to do |
| 17:48.39 | Patlabor221 | when do you get the error in xconfig, and what res are you trying to set? |
| 17:50.59 | [TeA|TrEE] | well first |
| 17:51.14 | [TeA|TrEE] | Super VGA -.......800x600 |
| 17:51.15 | [TeA|TrEE] | .... |
| 17:51.21 | [TeA|TrEE] | ore what ever |
| 17:52.03 | Patlabor221 | what card do you have? |
| 17:52.14 | sussudio | HorizSync 31.5 - 65.0 |
| 17:52.21 | sussudio | VertRefresh 59.90-75.029 |
| 17:53.17 | [TeA|TrEE] | ehm |
| 17:53.28 | [TeA|TrEE] | graphic card? |
| 17:53.29 | sussudio | ehm what |
| 17:53.31 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:53.34 | [TeA|TrEE] | GF4 mx 420 |
| 17:53.38 | [TeA|TrEE] | he knows that |
| 17:53.48 | sussudio | hello? enter that in x..... |
| 17:54.03 | Patlabor221 | yeah just set those values and you shoudl be fine |
| 17:56.39 | [TeA|TrEE] | 95.90-75,029 doesnt fitt |
| 17:57.39 | [TeA|TrEE] | hello? |
| 17:57.47 | [TeA|TrEE] | VertSync? |
| 17:58.06 | bzdoug__ | I know nothing! |
| 17:58.26 | [TeA|TrEE] | Patlabor221? |
| 17:58.31 | [TeA|TrEE] | sussudio? |
| 18:02.42 | Patlabor221 | sorry begal time |
| 18:03.19 | bzdoug__ | bagel? |
| 18:03.23 | bzdoug__ | or beagle? |
| 18:03.31 | bzdoug__ | bugel? |
| 18:04.07 | scanline | boggle |
| 18:04.21 | sussudio | [TeA|TrEE]: 95-75 then |
| 18:04.28 | sussudio | ~jzaun |
| 18:04.29 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 18:04.41 | sussudio | ~bzfquery jzaun.com 5155 |
| 18:04.47 | sussudio | yes players |
| 18:05.13 | Patlabor221 | maybe players |
| 18:05.18 | sussudio | i saw a gerbil on there |
| 18:20.54 | sussudio | bunnies, ofcourse. |
| 18:21.44 | scanline | maybe I'm starting to go insane from all this coding |
| 18:22.18 | scanline | cap'n will probably freak out when he wakes up and 7ups 3000 lines of new code :) |
| 18:22.19 | Patlabor221 | wanna crack a private key for me? |
| 18:23.16 | scanline | tried to crack an old-style unix password with john the ripper a while ago, but didn't have the patience... and that's all I know about cracking :P |
| 18:24.00 | Patlabor221 | 2074011932725872376027602350906301713845599360627488352673195511324110900735 4362374128996096291046353572306742110305456946824862203867115042369878729703 4757651122801674981890464377946029661688124194233651969796694319295889511268 0464874302938783366603176573433716594963473137559247167029424618087781510481 2674626967450097045005117546657068700545263064105024888769118032059917845867 653040419404003684559882509195398630922824050405379620513589699 |
| 18:24.06 | Patlabor221 | that is a big ass number |
| 18:24.18 | scanline | quick, factor it! |
| 18:24.38 | Patlabor221 | they are trying to brute force the xbox public key |
| 18:24.47 | scanline | oh, cool |
| 18:24.49 | Patlabor221 | to get the private key |
| 18:24.56 | Patlabor221 | they got linux booting on it |
| 18:25.02 | Patlabor221 | full mandrake and deb |
| 18:25.13 | Patlabor221 | I have just orderd my modchip today |
| 18:25.14 | scanline | but that will require a modchip until they crack the key, right? |
| 18:25.18 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 18:25.23 | Patlabor221 | but they have a solderless one |
| 18:25.39 | scanline | I saw the Matrix board that Tim linked to |
| 18:25.40 | Patlabor221 | that comes with a flash programer |
| 18:25.41 | scanline | pretty spiffy |
| 18:25.46 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's what I orderd |
| 18:25.58 | scanline | but I have a dreamcast :) |
| 18:26.09 | Patlabor221 | tho it dosn't seem like have hardware aceell hooked up yet |
| 18:26.19 | Patlabor221 | you don't need a TV for an x-box |
| 18:26.28 | Patlabor221 | just like you don't need one for a DC |
| 18:26.30 | scanline | somebody in #picogui said he was trying to get picogui running on an xbox |
| 18:26.45 | Patlabor221 | those VGA convertes work well |
| 18:26.59 | Patlabor221 | I still have a couple for the DC |
| 18:30.53 | Patlabor221 | someone tell me that this looks backwards |
| 18:30.54 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.54 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.54 | Patlabor221 | doKeyNotPlaying(event.keyDown, false); |
| 18:30.54 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.54 | Patlabor221 | doKeyPlaying(event.keyDown, false); |
| 18:30.56 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.58 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.00 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.02 | Patlabor221 | doKeyNotPlaying(event.keyUp, true); |
| 18:31.04 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.06 | Patlabor221 | doKeyPlaying(event.keyUp, true); |
| 18:31.08 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.11 | sussudio | i hate stupid italians |
| 18:31.54 | sussudio | can not write to read-only filesystem. how HARD IS THAT TO GET |
| 18:45.51 | [TeA|TrEE] | what do you prefere for mss mobiles? |
| 18:46.01 | [TeA|TrEE] | ~ducatictf |
| 18:47.47 | Patlabor221 | mss? MIsson secret service? |
| 18:50.25 | Patlabor221 | bz looks funny when run in a 160x120 window |
| 18:56.44 | corndawg | man... you ppl ever sleep? lol |
| 18:56.57 | sussudio | yes |
| 18:57.24 | corndawg | heh Patlabor221 |
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| 19:25.05 | *** join/#bzflag jolly (~bzjolly81@jvnineteen.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 19:28.52 | sussudio | ~pig jolly |
| 19:28.57 | | jolly is 16% pig! |
| 19:29.09 | jolly | wow! |
| 19:29.25 | jolly | lol |
| 19:29.36 | sussudio | squeeeeel |
| 19:29.45 | jolly | :) |
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| 19:35.25 | Fanta | tea ? |
| 19:39.45 | scanline | s/driver/drive/ |
| 19:43.58 | sussudio | os2 drivers? |
| 19:47.09 | *** join/#bzflag chsh (~chsh@207.245.233.114) |
| 19:49.15 | sussudio | ~pig chsh |
| 19:49.17 | | chsh is 23% pig! |
| 19:50.40 | Patlabor221 | are they USB or Firewire warp drives? |
| 20:15.59 | Patlabor221 | how so? |
| 20:17.40 | scanline | well, I thought I just saw the light in the other room turn off then on |
| 20:17.50 | scanline | and things are starting to slow down and speed up in weird ways |
| 20:27.23 | Patlabor221 | tho it's actualy ballanced if everyone had the client |
| 20:27.28 | Patlabor221 | almost a new way to play |
| 20:28.00 | bzdoug__ | oh? |
| 20:28.03 | bzdoug__ | hows it work? |
| 20:28.15 | bzdoug__ | [14:59] * Patlabor221 is mgucing tanks the ablity to circle strafe |
| 20:28.17 | bzdoug__ | in bzflag? |
| 20:28.32 | Patlabor221 | Hold down W and your speed doubles and your turning speed halves |
| 20:28.41 | Patlabor221 | hit S and you do a small back jump |
| 20:29.02 | Patlabor221 | A and D make you side step at 1/2 tank speed |
| 20:29.13 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 20:29.14 | bzdoug__ | sounds cool |
| 20:29.17 | Patlabor221 | Hold down Z and shoot and you lay a stationary bullet as a mine |
| 20:29.22 | bzdoug__ | oh? |
| 20:29.25 | bzdoug__ | thats COOL! |
| 20:29.31 | bzdoug__ | is it ready for release? |
| 20:29.39 | Patlabor221 | Hold down C and shoot and you fire a shot out your ass at 0.5 shot speed |
| 20:29.48 | cashews_nausea | eep |
| 20:29.49 | Patlabor221 | release? |
| 20:29.51 | cashews_nausea | missed him by 1 minute |
| 20:29.56 | Patlabor221 | hey cap |
| 20:30.01 | bzdoug__ | Patlabor221: sure |
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| 20:30.24 | bzdoug__ | hmm, you could make it ignore all normal servers and only use "pat" servers |
| 20:30.26 | bzdoug__ | :) |
| 20:30.44 | Patlabor221 | can't reaase it source only |
| 20:30.51 | Patlabor221 | sorry can't do bin only |
| 20:30.54 | bzdoug__ | yea |
| 20:31.05 | bzdoug__ | then release the source |
| 20:31.06 | bzdoug__ | :) |
| 20:31.07 | Patlabor221 | so they would be able to rehack |
| 20:31.11 | Patlabor221 | and go to any server |
| 20:31.23 | bzdoug__ | hm |
| 20:31.49 | Patlabor221 | when Tim gets on tongiht I want to run it on 1 and see if his cheat stuff takes effect |
| 20:32.03 | Patlabor221 | for the things I have done I don't think they will |
| 20:32.46 | Patlabor221 | join jzuan |
| 20:32.53 | bzdoug__ | yea, but IF the you sorta hide the server stuff only, and then it would take hours of working to get it fixed |
| 20:32.54 | bzdoug__ | ok |
| 20:33.06 | Patlabor221 | it would take 1 min |
| 20:33.21 | bzdoug__ | k |
| 20:33.27 | jzaun | hey Patlabor221 |
| 20:33.31 | jzaun | whats up? |
| 20:33.31 | bzdoug__ | yea, but if YOU made it hard to edit |
| 20:33.44 | bzdoug__ | Patlabor221 has gone into the cheating industry |
| 20:34.01 | Patlabor221 | no to test anti cheats |
| 20:34.08 | Patlabor221 | join knightmare actualy |
| 20:34.30 | bzdoug__ | ok |
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| 20:39.46 | bzdoug__ | now thats cool |
| 20:42.05 | bzdoug__ | very cool indeed |
| 20:42.33 | Patlabor221 | Cap, wanna build this on the leeenox for me? |
| 20:43.07 | Patlabor221 | sadly, I made it so you could sidesep whilst dead |
| 20:43.29 | Patlabor221 | and I don't know how to make the mines stay longer |
| 20:43.30 | bzdoug__ | ick |
| 20:43.40 | Patlabor221 | I set the lifetime to a big number |
| 20:43.45 | bzdoug__ | making the mines stay longer would be cool |
| 20:44.11 | Patlabor221 | I should also replace some of the textures |
| 20:44.23 | bzdoug__ | oh? |
| 20:44.34 | bzdoug__ | I would just drop it into the regular bzflag folder |
| 20:44.35 | Patlabor221 | and get jzuan to merge in his HUT thing, and have it show some of the cheat stats |
| 20:44.41 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 20:44.43 | bzdoug__ | HUT? |
| 20:44.46 | Patlabor221 | HUD |
| 20:44.50 | bzdoug__ | oh |
| 20:45.13 | bzdoug__ | hmm, you could branch bzflag and go off on your own angle |
| 20:45.27 | Patlabor221 | ohh I'd just rewrite it in that case |
| 20:45.39 | Patlabor221 | wonder where the version number is in here |
| 20:45.45 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 20:45.57 | Patlabor221 | I'll call it 1.7x0 |
| 20:46.00 | bzdoug__ | Athlon XP 2400+ = how many ghz? |
| 20:46.04 | cashews_nausea | hrmph |
| 20:46.04 | bzdoug__ | hehe, x0 |
| 20:46.09 | cashews_nausea | scanline forgot to svn add a few files |
| 20:46.10 | cashews_nausea | :P |
| 20:46.22 | Patlabor221 | 2400 is about 2 gigs I think |
| 20:46.34 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 20:46.55 | Patlabor221 | out of all 3000 of his new ones? |
| 20:47.09 | Patlabor221 | cap do you know where version num is in code? |
| 20:47.38 | cashews_nausea | huh? |
| 20:47.48 | Patlabor221 | in bz |
| 20:47.53 | Patlabor221 | where is the version? |
| 20:49.31 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 20:49.49 | cashews_nausea | Patlabor221: i believe its a compile-time definition |
| 20:49.57 | bzdoug__ | http://movix.sourceforge.net = VERY COOL |
| 20:52.37 | bzdoug__ | if we could squeese bzflag on there..... |
| 20:52.39 | bzdoug__ | :) |
| 20:52.56 | bzdoug__ | bzflag consoles here we come! |
| 20:53.32 | Patlabor221 | me and Tim are gonna mod our x-boxes and get it goin |
| 20:53.39 | bzdoug__ | cool |
| 20:53.52 | bzdoug__ | too bad 90% of this channel dont have x boxes |
| 20:54.12 | bzdoug__ | need to get it working without mods |
| 20:54.13 | bzdoug__ | :) |
| 20:54.51 | Patlabor221 | that's not up to us, that's up to the linux-on-x-box people |
| 20:55.00 | Patlabor221 | and the cracking of a VERY large number |
| 20:55.06 | bzdoug__ | hahaha |
| 21:01.42 | bzdoug__ | good for you |
| 21:01.53 | bzdoug__ | hope the mold isnt dangerouse |
| 21:03.13 | Jormungandr | what sort of connection is one.bzflag.org running on? |
| 21:03.37 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: wouldnt you like to know... |
| 21:03.43 | Jormungandr | heh. |
| 21:03.52 | bzdoug__ | I think its Rikers DSL |
| 21:03.59 | bzdoug__ | 256 up/down |
| 21:03.59 | Jormungandr | just noticing that the CTF game was really lagged for most folks. |
| 21:04.01 | Jormungandr | ah |
| 21:04.02 | bzdoug__ | but I aint sure |
| 21:04.08 | bzdoug__ | rikers.org |
| 21:04.09 | bzdoug__ | :) |
| 21:04.37 | Jormungandr | is there a bzedit that works for linux? |
| 21:04.47 | bzdoug__ | ~bzedit |
| 21:04.48 | | well, bzedit is http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/code/tarballs/bzedit-2.1.tar.gz on linux http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit for windows |
| 21:04.54 | bzdoug__ | there ua go |
| 21:05.00 | bzdoug__ | its cashews_nausea's version |
| 21:05.02 | Jormungandr | cool tq |
| 21:05.13 | [TeA|TrEE] | wow |
| 21:05.19 | bzdoug__ | :) |
| 21:05.24 | [TeA|TrEE] | TLZ: 4 vs Vbz: 3 |
| 21:05.34 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 21:05.41 | [TeA|TrEE] | damn good game |
| 21:05.49 | [TeA|TrEE] | damn close |
| 21:06.22 | [TeA|TrEE] | bye all |
| 21:06.25 | *** part/#bzflag [TeA|TrEE] (~Nicholas@pD9E95D5D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:06.37 | Jormungandr | hrm... 404 for URL |
| 21:06.52 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@planetg.virtualgibbs.com) |
| 21:07.00 | bzdoug__ | its his server |
| 21:07.01 | bzdoug__ | :) |
| 21:07.12 | Patlabor221 | damn that 20 amp breaker |
| 21:07.13 | Patlabor221 | what? |
| 21:07.23 | bzdoug__ | oh cool, the bzflag cheat blew it? |
| 21:07.29 | Patlabor221 | now |
| 21:07.30 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 21:07.36 | Patlabor221 | too many computers blew it |
| 21:07.44 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 21:09.41 | Patlabor221 | brb, lunch. |
| 21:09.52 | Patlabor221 | I"ll have the src and bins posted when I get back |
| 21:10.03 | bzdoug__ | k |
| 21:11.15 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 21:11.23 | bzdoug__ | ~dict bzflag |
| 21:11.31 | bzdoug__ | hm |
| 21:11.35 | bzdoug__ | ~spell bzflag |
| 21:11.35 | | I can't find alternate spellings for 'bzflag' |
| 21:11.40 | bzdoug__ | humph |
| 21:11.46 | bzdoug__ | ~spell cashews nausea |
| 21:11.46 | | I can't find alternate spellings for 'cashews nausea' |
| 21:12.30 | *** join/#bzflag CapN (~capn@me-kennebunk1f-124.knbnme.adelphia.net) |
| 21:14.01 | bzdoug__ | CapN!!!! |
| 21:14.04 | Chestal | hi CapN |
| 21:14.04 | bzdoug__ | long time no see! |
| 21:14.10 | CapN | hey guys |
| 21:14.17 | bzdoug__ | I think |
| 21:14.32 | CapN | yeah, i havent been here in awhile |
| 21:14.36 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 21:14.39 | CapN | but have been playing |
| 21:15.01 | bzdoug__ | :P |
| 21:15.03 | CapN | chestal: do you remember how to play? |
| 21:15.23 | Chestal | CapN: course I do |
| 21:15.30 | Chestal | CapN: what kind of question is that? :-) |
| 21:15.38 | bzdoug__ | like, duh, you know |
| 21:15.39 | CapN | :) |
| 21:15.45 | CapN | you moles seem rustier than me |
| 21:16.04 | Chestal | played any lately? |
| 21:16.19 | bzdoug__ | CapN: stuff leached into the ground, makin them rustypated |
| 21:16.23 | CapN | had a great match today, against tankmann and other |
| 21:16.26 | CapN | others |
| 21:16.53 | CapN | i see those Zees beat Vit. BZ today |
| 21:17.18 | Chestal | tankmann doesn't play very much thesse days I think, but he's strong anyway. Less fluctuation than me |
| 21:17.23 | Chestal | yes, just a few minutes ago |
| 21:18.57 | CapN | i was playing against 2 german guys on that Rosemay server today for about an hour |
| 21:19.09 | CapN | i think they were saying naughty things about me :) |
| 21:19.33 | Chestal | hmm, never been on that server I think |
| 21:19.41 | Chestal | I still rarely go on other servers |
| 21:20.01 | Chestal | have been on a server today, 3 shots, jumping, flags, empty map with only 1 building and a few pyramids |
| 21:20.29 | Chestal | it has rico enabed, so laseer is wreaking lots of havoc there; I was suggesting that putting aser on this map is silly |
| 21:20.38 | CapN | its the US one set up just like yours... |
| 21:20.59 | Chestal | it turned out that 2 of the guys running the server were there, they said that the map was designed for laser... |
| 21:21.09 | CapN | aaaaj |
| 21:21.20 | CapN | silly |
| 21:21.31 | bzdoug__ | whoops, sorry about that |
| 21:21.34 | Chestal | well, more peopel joined, I got annoyed of being killed by laser every 3s and game became jerky, so I left |
| 21:21.45 | Chestal | could be a decent serevr with a better flag mix |
| 21:22.24 | Jormungandr | wow... I'm actually sort of figuring out bzedit. |
| 21:22.31 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: what version? |
| 21:22.33 | bzdoug__ | the latest? |
| 21:22.37 | bzdoug__ | its got some cool stuff in it |
| 21:22.42 | bzdoug__ | like dup and... is cool |
| 21:22.45 | Chestal | hmm, I got an idea, maybe it would be nice if we had a section just for public servers on bzfalg centrum. Admins could advertise their servers, explain the settings, players could make suggestions on how to improve |
| 21:22.51 | bzdoug__ | check it out under the tools menu |
| 21:23.11 | Jormungandr | dup is cool |
| 21:23.15 | fiberchunks | Chestal -- good idea - make a post about it, and I'll try to do that this weekend |
| 21:23.34 | bzdoug__ | hmm, I got an idea, maybe if we could have ways of seperating servers up |
| 21:23.57 | bzdoug__ | or at least mark CTF, FFA, crazy, etc, and people would only have to look at those |
| 21:24.21 | CapN | thats a good idea too |
| 21:24.50 | Chestal | that#s a bzflag feature request, put it on sf :-) |
| 21:24.50 | CapN | i saw Chris playing today |
| 21:25.02 | bzdoug__ | :P |
| 21:25.10 | bzdoug__ | whos that"? |
| 21:25.11 | Chestal | yes, he was in my team |
| 21:25.14 | bzdoug__ | crs? |
| 21:25.17 | CapN | yeah |
| 21:25.22 | *** join/#bzflag Ruudi (Sacha@80-235-62-246-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) |
| 21:25.24 | Chestal | the old badger |
| 21:25.25 | bzdoug__ | kewl |
| 21:25.28 | fiberchunks | Chestal, by the way - I posted the keymapping bugs that I told you about on sf (in the devs forum, not sure how to make a real bug report) |
| 21:25.29 | CapN | yup |
| 21:25.30 | Ruudi | hi |
| 21:25.38 | bzdoug__ | cool |
| 21:25.39 | bzdoug__ | thats neat |
| 21:25.42 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 21:25.48 | bzdoug__ | why dont he come in #bzflag? |
| 21:25.54 | Chestal | fiber: hmm, I saw it. Submitting a bug report is easy, though!? |
| 21:26.00 | CapN | dont know doug |
| 21:26.03 | Jormungandr | I'm trying to convert megadome into a CTF map |
| 21:26.04 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 21:26.11 | fiberchunks | just not familiar with the mechanism -- I'll look again tonight |
| 21:26.40 | CapN | well....i came to give BZGirl a hard time about their loss but i guess she isnt around.. |
| 21:26.47 | CapN | cya later everyone. |
| 21:27.02 | bzdoug__ | cyA |
| 21:27.08 | Jormungandr | the base colors are all switched around in here. |
| 21:27.13 | Chestal | fiberchunks: just click on 'bugs', then something like submit new or so, select the correct category (bzflag) and type or paste your text |
| 21:27.32 | fiberchunks | Chestal: k, thanks much |
| 21:27.46 | fiberchunks | will submit formally tonight |
| 21:28.17 | Chestal | the advantage of a bug report is that it won't be forgotten as easily as a post to the forums or the mailing lists |
| 21:28.30 | bzdoug__ | HEH |
| 21:28.38 | Chestal | it might be ignored for a while, but typically just before a release it will be looked at :-) |
| 21:29.09 | bzdoug__ | what does the bug do? |
| 21:29.31 | *** part/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-67-1-87.stny.rr.com) |
| 21:30.44 | fiberchunks | problems with messaging and motion if you use the keyboard to play |
| 21:30.57 | bzdoug__ | hm |
| 21:30.58 | fiberchunks | which I do (and a couple others, so I imagine it won't be high-priority) |
| 21:31.00 | bzdoug__ | use a mouse |
| 21:31.05 | bzdoug__ | :P |
| 21:31.08 | bzdoug__ | joystick |
| 21:31.14 | bzdoug__ | touchpad |
| 21:31.16 | fiberchunks | haha -- nice non-response :P |
| 21:31.17 | bzdoug__ | mindcontrol |
| 21:31.25 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 21:31.49 | fiberchunks | mind-control would be nice ;) |
| 21:31.49 | *** join/#bzflag Ruudi (Sacha@80-235-62-246-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) |
| 21:31.52 | bzdoug__ | indeed |
| 21:31.58 | bzdoug__ | "use the force" |
| 21:32.22 | fiberchunks | 'move left dammit!' 'hey, she's got a nice...' 'NO! move left dammit!' :) |
| 21:32.35 | bzdoug__ | haha |
| 21:32.56 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 21:33.57 | bzdoug__ | ugh |
| 21:34.15 | bzdoug__ | its 2 megs over |
| 21:34.19 | bzdoug__ | 4 |
| 21:34.33 | bzdoug__ | I wonder if I can over burn usin ISO images |
| 21:36.23 | Jormungandr | okay. |
| 21:36.26 | Jormungandr | ummm. |
| 21:36.28 | Jormungandr | base numbers |
| 21:36.32 | bzdoug__ | yea |
| 21:36.38 | bzdoug__ | there is a "few" bugs init |
| 21:36.38 | Jormungandr | I have to prolly edit the .map by hand |
| 21:36.47 | bzdoug__ | bug (ahem) Patlabor221 about it |
| 21:36.49 | bzdoug__ | :P |
| 21:36.49 | Jormungandr | what are valid base numbers? |
| 21:36.57 | bzdoug__ | beats the fire out of me |
| 21:36.59 | Jormungandr | 0-3 or 1-4? |
| 21:37.01 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 21:37.11 | bzdoug__ | I think it "may" start with 0 |
| 21:37.13 | bzdoug__ | but I dont know |
| 21:37.26 | jzaun | whats up with CVS and the radar? |
| 21:37.33 | Jormungandr | I think I got it. |
| 21:37.35 | jzaun | it spins around and around like crazy |
| 21:37.37 | bzdoug__ | jzaun: lol |
| 21:37.39 | Jormungandr | it starts with 1 ;) |
| 21:37.46 | bzdoug__ | jzaun: Chestal discovered that bug |
| 21:37.48 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: ah |
| 21:38.01 | bzdoug__ | jzaun: the speed it hooked up to radar heading somehow |
| 21:38.04 | jzaun | not hard to discover.... just load it and move a bit |
| 21:38.08 | bzdoug__ | jzaun: crossed wires |
| 21:38.08 | Jormungandr | bzedit has one of them as 0 |
| 21:38.14 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 21:38.15 | Jormungandr | so it fails to start as ctf map |
| 21:38.19 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 21:38.21 | bzdoug__ | thats why |
| 21:38.21 | bzdoug__ | :P |
| 21:38.29 | jzaun | Chestal: know where that happened and how to fix it? |
| 21:38.51 | bzdoug__ | jzaun: I think its Mrapathycreams fault and hes gonna fix it |
| 21:39.05 | bzdoug__ | but I most likly am mistakin |
| 21:39.16 | Chestal | jzaun: do a make clean |
| 21:39.27 | Chestal | jzaun: there are some depndenies missing in the Makefiles |
| 21:39.28 | Jormungandr | another interesting FYI, I have athlon and put the mem=nopentium in my grub config |
| 21:39.42 | Chestal | jzaun: the new bzfs is buggy though, do not use it |
| 21:39.43 | jzaun | Chestal: ok, re-making |
| 21:39.44 | Jormungandr | and when I ran insmod agpgart, it rebooted machine. |
| 21:39.55 | Jormungandr | took it out, and it doesn't reboot. |
| 21:40.04 | jzaun | Chestal: how so? |
| 21:40.05 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: kewl |
| 21:40.14 | Chestal | the clietn mgiht be buggy, too, with respect to machine gun and rapid fire flags |
| 21:40.14 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: that means you have a intel inside |
| 21:40.17 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: :P |
| 21:40.22 | Jormungandr | not true, though. |
| 21:40.30 | Jormungandr | it's an athlon 2100 :) |
| 21:40.45 | fiberchunks | what kind of card, Jormungandr |
| 21:40.45 | bzdoug__ | cool |
| 21:40.48 | bzdoug__ | I have a 1700 |
| 21:40.56 | bzdoug__ | fiberchunks: a (ugh) ATI |
| 21:40.59 | bzdoug__ | :P |
| 21:41.01 | Jormungandr | ATI |
| 21:41.01 | bzdoug__ | I think |
| 21:41.09 | Jormungandr | radeon 9700 |
| 21:41.20 | Jormungandr | it still locks in linux off and on, but not as bad as windows. |
| 21:41.25 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 21:41.29 | Jormungandr | and I can switch to a console and kill -9 it. |
| 21:41.47 | jzaun | Jormungandr: get a GF2 :-) |
| 21:42.16 | fiberchunks | oof -- radeon 9700 needs work in linux right now, iirc |
| 21:42.22 | Jormungandr | well, when I have money again, I may. |
| 21:42.36 | Jormungandr | well, it mostly works. |
| 21:43.19 | fiberchunks | you using ATI drivers, or linux kernel driver? |
| 21:43.40 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: GF2's cost 35 bucks on ebay |
| 21:44.30 | Jormungandr | I am using both, fiber... agpgart from linux dist, and ATI xfree drivers |
| 21:44.43 | bzdoug__ | at the same time? |
| 21:44.52 | Jormungandr | you have to |
| 21:44.54 | jzaun | bzdoug__: cause that would make too much sense |
| 21:45.11 | Jormungandr | if you run xfree with ATI stuff, it loads the agpgart module anyway. |
| 21:45.11 | bzdoug__ | oh |
| 21:45.14 | bzdoug__ | true |
| 21:45.22 | fiberchunks | I meant ATI drivers from ATI, not the default xfree ati driver |
| 21:45.29 | Jormungandr | I just hand load it first, since I have had problems and want to make sure it loads. |
| 21:45.38 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 21:45.41 | bzdoug__ | reinstall |
| 21:45.45 | Jormungandr | downloaded from ATI. I know what you were asking ;) |
| 21:45.52 | fiberchunks | just checkin :) |
| 21:46.12 | bzdoug__ | reinstall leeenox |
| 21:46.15 | Jormungandr | not |
| 21:46.18 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 21:46.30 | bzdoug__ | get a mc, itr solves all problems |
| 21:46.32 | bzdoug__ | mac* |
| 21:46.40 | jzaun | heh |
| 21:46.44 | fiberchunks | well, being an nvidia guy myself -- I'm afraid I can't help you further -- However, try here: http://www.dslreports.com <-- go to the 'all things unix' forum -- also, there is an #atu channel on openprojects |
| 21:46.52 | bzdoug__ | cool, I can make ISO on windows using UNIX tools |
| 21:47.07 | jzaun | #atu? |
| 21:47.07 | bzdoug__ | fiberchunks: you mean freenode |
| 21:47.11 | Jormungandr | I'm fairly certain that it's either very poorly written drivers or I have a bad card. |
| 21:47.17 | bzdoug__ | fiberchunks: :) |
| 21:47.21 | fiberchunks | bzdoug__: whatever ;) |
| 21:47.34 | Jormungandr | my goal, tomorrow hopefully, is to get a new vid card for my mac, and run bzflag on it. |
| 21:47.39 | bzdoug__ | fiberchunks: they are gonna kill openprojects domain, I got a notice |
| 21:47.49 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: ah, bzflag withdrawle |
| 21:48.03 | Jormungandr | well, I can play on my pc... it's working in linux |
| 21:48.16 | Jormungandr | just prefer mac, and my wacom tablet mouse. |
| 21:48.30 | fiberchunks | I've seen several folks on the ATU forum discussing the joys of ATI - so there may be some useful info there for you |
| 21:48.31 | bzdoug__ | jzaun: Anti Testy Unix people |
| 21:48.36 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: sweet |
| 21:48.38 | Jormungandr | which I can get to work in linux, just a pain in the ass. |
| 21:48.44 | bzdoug__ | I have a 12x12 wacom tablet here |
| 21:48.46 | bzdoug__ | :) |
| 21:48.52 | bzdoug__ | mac only |
| 21:49.00 | Jormungandr | I have 2.. one for pc and one for mac. |
| 21:49.05 | bzdoug__ | serial too so it wond work on the powermacs |
| 21:49.07 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 21:49.16 | Jormungandr | mine is USB |
| 21:49.19 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 21:49.46 | *** join/#bzflag MortimeR (~MortimeR@80.103.153.246) |
| 21:50.03 | Jormungandr | I tried it... it's okay. |
| 21:50.19 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 21:50.53 | Jormungandr | back to bzedit to adjust map.s |
| 21:50.56 | Jormungandr | map |
| 21:51.05 | Chestal | hmm, I guess I'll reboot to test new kernel |
| 21:51.23 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 21:51.23 | Jormungandr | I suppose I can use windows bzedit to test map... only looking, so it shouldn't crash |
| 21:51.24 | bzdoug__ | cya |
| 21:51.34 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: you would think |
| 21:51.42 | bzdoug__ | Jormungandr: but you never know |
| 21:51.44 | Jormungandr | sometimes it goes for hours |
| 21:51.50 | bzdoug__ | heh |
| 21:51.51 | Jormungandr | and sometimes a few times an hour |
| 21:51.53 | *** join/#bzflag MortimeR (~MortimeR@80.103.153.246) |
| 21:53.11 | MortimeR | how to create a patch with diff? |
| 21:53.24 | bzdoug__ | MortimeR: dunno, ask anyone else though |
| 21:55.47 | *** join/#bzflag jneves (~Really@a213-22-92-39.netcabo.pt) |
| 21:55.59 | bzdoug__ | ask jneves |
| 21:56.11 | Chestal | new kernel booted, so far - so good |
| 21:56.28 | bzdoug__ | Chestal: wow, you rebooted without disconnecting |
| 21:56.30 | bzdoug__ | amazin |
| 21:56.47 | Chestal | yep :-) |
| 21:56.58 | Chestal | hot-pluggable kernel |
| 21:57.19 | Chestal | hmm, I could imagine the new kernel is much faster |
| 21:57.31 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 21:58.46 | stibnite | has anybody here ever played with 'Tank XP' ? |
| 21:58.56 | bzdoug__ | ? |
| 21:59.13 | stibnite | an individual, currently playing on my server |
| 21:59.50 | stibnite | he seems to be cheating but is very courteous and does not speak like most cheaters. |
| 22:00.13 | stibnite | perhaps there is an experienced player here that could join the server and help me determine what's going on? |
| 22:00.59 | Chestal | I could try, which server is it? |
| 22:01.21 | stibnite | bzflag.hashmark.net:17200 |
| 22:01.29 | stibnite | i'm really trying to give him the benefit of the doubt |
| 22:01.39 | stibnite | but he has had GM and locked on players with ST |
| 22:01.55 | stibnite | and other players have claimed they could not lock on him (flagless) |
| 22:02.33 | *** join/#bzflag bzdoug_ (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 22:03.16 | bzdoug_ | stibnite: I got disconnected, what did you say? |
| 22:08.43 | stibnite | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.53 | stibnite | what was the last thing you saw me say? |
| 22:11.09 | *** join/#bzflag bzdoug__ (SteveJobs@216.135.68.133) |
| 22:11.28 | *** part/#bzflag jneves (~Really@a213-22-92-39.netcabo.pt) |
| 22:11.50 | stibnite | well thatks for looking into that Chestal |
| 22:12.30 | stibnite | his behavior totally changed once i started inquiring about the weirdness. |
| 22:12.32 | Chestal | I guess he's some well-known playe in disguise, I ddn't ask him |
| 22:12.53 | stibnite | so one way or another, the problem appears to be fixed. |
| 22:13.02 | Chestal | your server got too much action for an odl guy like myself :-) |
| 22:13.07 | Chestal | too many shots and flags |
| 22:13.23 | bzdoug__ | ? |
| 22:13.29 | bzdoug__ | whats wrong? |
| 22:13.50 | MortimeR | same for me. too many time not playing freestyle |
| 22:15.52 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 22:16.02 | bzdoug__ | first time I burned a cd with 698 megs on it |
| 22:16.27 | stibnite | thanks to you also, bzgirl |
| 22:16.32 | stibnite | hehe chestal |
| 22:16.51 | bzgirl | np stibnite |
| 22:16.51 | stibnite | probably too many flags, yeah |
| 22:16.56 | stibnite | a lot of kills |
| 22:17.06 | bzgirl | how many hots was it? |
| 22:17.12 | bzgirl | shots* |
| 22:17.16 | stibnite | 10 |
| 22:17.21 | bzgirl | ugh :) |
| 22:17.25 | bzdoug__ | MY server has 100 shots! |
| 22:17.27 | bzdoug__ | :P |
| 22:17.28 | bzdoug__ | beat tha |
| 22:17.30 | bzdoug__ | tha |
| 22:17.32 | bzdoug__ | THAT! |
| 22:17.34 | bzgirl | try 2, much more soothing |
| 22:17.38 | bzdoug__ | huh |
| 22:17.47 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (timr@rikers.org) |
| 22:17.55 | stibnite | i expect i will have to make some adjustments as the server grows in popularity. :) |
| 22:17.56 | Chestal | hi Tim |
| 22:18.08 | bzdoug__ | YO TimRiker!!!!! |
| 22:18.37 | MortimeR | hey, someone knows how to create a patch with diff? |
| 22:18.58 | Chestal | Mortimer: usually it's best just to use cvs diff -u |
| 22:19.03 | bzdoug__ | MortimeR: not me, but ask anyone else... |
| 22:19.04 | bzdoug__ | :P |
| 22:19.21 | bzdoug__ | there IS a program called diff, but I dunno what thats used for... ;) |
| 22:19.39 | Chestal | Mortimer: you can use diff directly of course, then you'd need the original, unpatched file for diffing of course |
| 22:19.53 | bzdoug__ | ah |
| 22:20.11 | bzdoug__ | ~x de en guten morgan |
| 22:20.16 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 22:20.32 | bzdoug__ | ~x de en guten mordan |
| 22:20.39 | bzdoug__ | hmm |
| 22:20.44 | bzdoug__ | ~x en de good morning |
| 22:20.57 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 22:21.13 | bzdoug__ | my german is worse than my english |
| 22:21.16 | Jormungandr | hey, the bot's not the one who can't spell ;) |
| 22:21.24 | bzdoug__ | hah |
| 22:21.31 | bzdoug__ | thats the only words I know... |
| 22:21.40 | bzdoug__ | and I am leson 1 of german |
| 22:21.43 | bzdoug__ | next? numbers |
| 22:21.46 | Jormungandr | cool |
| 22:22.06 | bzdoug__ | I went up to lesson 50. but I forgot it all and had to start over |
| 22:22.25 | Jormungandr | the only german numbers I know I learned from a Kraftwerk song. |
| 22:22.26 | Jormungandr | :) |
| 22:22.32 | bzdoug__ | lol |
| 22:34.32 | TimRiker | bzdoug__: salary? |
| 22:35.25 | Chestal | where's MAC hiding? |
| 22:38.59 | Chestal | someone with client older than 1 day care to join ducati 59500 for a test? |
| 22:39.44 | cashews_nausea | error connecting |
| 22:39.52 | Chestal | please try again |
| 22:42.16 | Chestal | Riker: CVS code is broken with respect to shot speed / lifetime |
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| 23:28.00 | Patlabor221 | gahh I hate power issues |
| 23:37.26 | Patlabor221 | doug if you want that new BZFlag client with the new stuff it's at |
| 23:37.27 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/bzx/ |
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