| 00:15:58 | bzgirl | bzbot: fr en petit poit |
| 00:16:29 | | bzgirl: i'm not following you... |
| 00:16:29 | bzgirl | ibot: fr en petit poit |
| 00:31:50 | [dmp] | is this bzflag.org website down? |
| 00:32:19 | bzgirl | think so, i cant connect |
| 00:36:12 | scanline | all the sourceforge web servers are down |
| 00:37:18 | [dmp] | oh, that can't be good |
| 00:54:51 | Patlabor221 | is away: Life is like a horse wearing a suit and smoking a cigar: hard to explain. |
| 01:08:13 | doughecka | i see |
| 01:11:44 | doughecka | hehe |
| 01:31:57 | bzgirl | cannot connect your tank is not capable of carrying flags found |
| 01:32:15 | bzgirl | i get this error in 1.8 connecting to a server |
| 01:32:27 | captain_proton | bzgirl: update your cvs |
| 01:32:41 | bzgirl | ok...yeah, i got it like 3 weeks ago |
| 01:33:02 | bzgirl | thanks.. captain_proton |
| 01:43:46 | SpacemanSpiff | Hey everyone |
| 01:49:08 | Patlabor221 | is back (gone 00:54:16) |
| 01:58:09 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 01:58:47 | Patlabor221 | lo |
| 01:59:08 | Patlabor221 | man I remember the day when I dreamed of getting a real PC |
| 01:59:27 | Patlabor221 | now I'm siting here trying to put together another machine |
| 01:59:31 | Patlabor221 | and when one dosn't work |
| 01:59:38 | Patlabor221 | I just grab another from the pile |
| 01:59:51 | Patlabor221 | and think to myselff well it's only a 600 but it'll do |
| 02:00:50 | doughecka | lol |
| 02:01:10 | Patlabor221 | wel the 667 didn't go |
| 02:01:26 | Patlabor221 | and nor did the XP 1600 |
| 02:01:31 | Patlabor221 | tho I tink it's the drive in that one |
| 02:01:45 | Patlabor221 | or maybe the bios, I think I need to update it |
| 02:06:09 | doughecka | shrugs |
| 02:06:13 | MrApathyCream | ahhh |
| 02:06:16 | SpacemanSpiff | You know... I found a good pc site :-) |
| 02:06:37 | SpacemanSpiff | They sell a lot of "generic" pc stuff... no propriatary parts. YAY! |
| 02:07:41 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: my plans have gotten even more devious! |
| 02:08:02 | Patlabor221 | for? |
| 02:08:04 | Patlabor221 | the hardware? |
| 02:08:21 | Patlabor221 | or the thermo kenetic watermellon launcher? |
| 02:08:22 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 02:08:31 | captain_proton | firewire :) |
| 02:08:36 | Patlabor221 | ohh you gonna go seedless? |
| 02:08:48 | Patlabor221 | you said it sucked ass on leenox |
| 02:09:00 | captain_proton | most firewire sucks ass on leenoox |
| 02:09:14 | captain_proton | but i found a set of (cheap) chips that everyone says work great |
| 02:09:19 | Patlabor221 | I asume yours will not partake in the but slobering? |
| 02:09:36 | captain_proton | right |
| 02:09:53 | Patlabor221 | you know what realy sucks ass |
| 02:09:55 | Patlabor221 | LILO |
| 02:09:59 | doughecka | hehe |
| 02:10:01 | doughecka | use GRUB |
| 02:10:05 | Patlabor221 | aka the MBR destroyer |
| 02:10:12 | Patlabor221 | no I will use NOTING |
| 02:10:14 | Patlabor221 | NOTHING I say |
| 02:10:18 | doughecka | boot floppy? |
| 02:10:22 | Patlabor221 | NOTHING |
| 02:10:39 | doughecka | bahs at Patlabor221 and adds 2 more pcs to his arsenal |
| 02:10:40 | Patlabor221 | it will boot throu sheer force of will. |
| 02:10:59 | Patlabor221 | no I'm only adding 1 |
| 02:11:07 | Patlabor221 | I forgeot to bring the laptop home |
| 02:11:29 | Patlabor221 | thi if I could FIND a flipy disk in this house I could have 2 more |
| 02:11:38 | doughecka | adds 2 more pcs |
| 02:11:45 | doughecka | lol |
| 02:11:58 | Patlabor221 | what did you add? |
| 02:12:35 | doughecka | a 800 mhz and a 450 mhz |
| 02:12:40 | doughecka | friends computers |
| 02:12:42 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:12:45 | Patlabor221 | demands that all running computational devices in his home have some form of NVIDIA Chipset |
| 02:12:59 | Patlabor221 | do you get to keep them? |
| 02:13:06 | doughecka | for the time begin |
| 02:13:14 | Patlabor221 | 800 what? |
| 02:13:16 | doughecka | s/begin/being |
| 02:13:17 | Patlabor221 | P3? |
| 02:13:18 | doughecka | um |
| 02:13:21 | doughecka | duron I think |
| 02:13:24 | doughecka | lemme see |
| 02:13:25 | Patlabor221 | ew |
| 02:13:29 | Patlabor221 | and 450? |
| 02:13:29 | doughecka | still bootin |
| 02:13:31 | doughecka | celly |
| 02:13:36 | Patlabor221 | ohh my |
| 02:13:37 | doughecka | over clocked 300A celly |
| 02:13:40 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:13:48 | Patlabor221 | you just love that 100 mhz bus don't you |
| 02:13:54 | doughecka | but hey! its got a ATI allinawonder thingy card |
| 02:14:02 | doughecka | bah |
| 02:14:18 | SpacemanSpiff | Wow... you guys must be in love with computers huh? LoL |
| 02:14:21 | Patlabor221 | what all in wonder? |
| 02:14:27 | Patlabor221 | the origonal? |
| 02:14:30 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:14:31 | Patlabor221 | no I hate them |
| 02:14:34 | doughecka | AV in and out |
| 02:14:39 | doughecka | blah blah |
| 02:14:47 | Patlabor221 | all all in wonders have that |
| 02:14:57 | Patlabor221 | just seems fate would have me constantly working with them |
| 02:14:58 | doughecka | wires up his VCR to it and streams video to the household |
| 02:15:06 | doughecka | bwuahaha |
| 02:15:07 | Patlabor221 | I realy jut wanted to be a baker. |
| 02:15:09 | doughecka | counts |
| 02:15:26 | Patlabor221 | make muffins |
| 02:15:28 | Patlabor221 | cupcakes |
| 02:15:32 | MrApathyCream | i'd like a 7 grain bagette please |
| 02:15:33 | Patlabor221 | the ocasional pie |
| 02:15:36 | doughecka | has 11 computers currently |
| 02:15:45 | Patlabor221 | you will get sourdough and LIKE it |
| 02:15:50 | doughecka | wants a 5 grain europien bread |
| 02:15:52 | Patlabor221 | running? |
| 02:15:57 | doughecka | um, most |
| 02:16:03 | doughecka | most of them are running |
| 02:16:04 | MrApathyCream | and yet he has time to shrug |
| 02:16:05 | SpacemanSpiff | LoL |
| 02:16:09 | doughecka | not enuf deskspace |
| 02:16:12 | doughecka | shrugs |
| 02:16:13 | Patlabor221 | or just the parts for them |
| 02:16:18 | doughecka | bahs at MrApathyCream |
| 02:16:24 | doughecka | compleat systems |
| 02:16:37 | doughecka | wonders what this PCs password is... |
| 02:16:37 | Patlabor221 | what the hell do you need that for? |
| 02:16:45 | doughecka | leeeenox |
| 02:16:50 | doughecka | and 2000 server |
| 02:16:52 | Patlabor221 | and do you even care about your parents electric bill? |
| 02:16:53 | doughecka | grins |
| 02:17:00 | doughecka | um, it aint calif |
| 02:17:03 | Patlabor221 | seing as how your dad is outa a job |
| 02:17:11 | doughecka | he aint out of no job |
| 02:17:17 | doughecka | hes got too much work |
| 02:17:18 | Patlabor221 | he got another? |
| 02:17:21 | doughecka | cant think |
| 02:17:24 | doughecka | freelanch |
| 02:17:25 | Patlabor221 | where does he work now? |
| 02:17:28 | Patlabor221 | ahhhhh |
| 02:17:31 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:17:31 | Patlabor221 | doing? |
| 02:17:43 | doughecka | web design and grafic design |
| 02:17:47 | Patlabor221 | how many of those comptuers are yours? |
| 02:17:52 | Patlabor221 | and not your dads? |
| 02:18:25 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: he bought some ram for one of them |
| 02:18:35 | doughecka | um |
| 02:18:37 | doughecka | counts |
| 02:18:40 | doughecka | 8 of them |
| 02:18:50 | Patlabor221 | how many are NOT 486's? |
| 02:18:53 | doughecka | my dad has the macs and the powerbook |
| 02:18:59 | doughecka | I dont have any 486s |
| 02:19:04 | doughecka | I sold it in a yardsale |
| 02:19:06 | Patlabor221 | sees 3 bootable macs, |
| 02:19:17 | Patlabor221 | 3 bootable PCS |
| 02:19:20 | doughecka | powerbook, PPC and a g4 |
| 02:19:20 | Patlabor221 | stuff for 2 more |
| 02:19:22 | Patlabor221 | oh and another mac |
| 02:19:24 | MrApathyCream | System 4.1 (mac) |
| 02:19:29 | Patlabor221 | and the laptop that's a work |
| 02:19:32 | Patlabor221 | hell yeah |
| 02:19:37 | doughecka | powerbook g3 |
| 02:19:39 | Patlabor221 | one of them is a SE 30 :) |
| 02:19:40 | doughecka | sighs |
| 02:19:47 | doughecka | Power PC mac... |
| 02:19:51 | MrApathyCream | I've got a macplus if you need it |
| 02:19:55 | doughecka | System 9 |
| 02:19:58 | doughecka | woo! |
| 02:20:01 | doughecka | a mac plus!! |
| 02:20:02 | Patlabor221 | naw thanks SE should hold me |
| 02:20:05 | doughecka | heres my address... |
| 02:20:22 | Patlabor221 | even got the second monitor card for the SE 30 |
| 02:20:23 | doughecka | looks for his citrix cd |
| 02:20:26 | doughecka | woo |
| 02:20:29 | doughecka | impressive |
| 02:20:47 | Patlabor221 | lilo the bootloader that will never die |
| 02:21:06 | Patlabor221 | zoooommmbie boot loader |
| 02:21:18 | doughecka | hah |
| 02:21:26 | Patlabor221 | time to call out the big guns |
| 02:21:37 | Patlabor221 | "windows 98, it's like a shotgun to your drive" |
| 02:22:09 | doughecka | haha |
| 02:22:16 | doughecka | found it |
| 02:22:24 | Patlabor221 | at least as far as the MBR is concerd |
| 02:23:33 | doughecka | fdisk -mbr |
| 02:23:41 | Patlabor221 | thats part of it |
| 02:24:00 | doughecka | format c: /q |
| 02:24:11 | Patlabor221 | are you on crack? |
| 02:24:18 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:24:18 | Patlabor221 | 1 never do a quick on a hard drisk |
| 02:24:25 | doughecka | shrugs |
| 02:24:30 | doughecka | its like DEL *.* |
| 02:24:33 | Patlabor221 | 2 never format with the 98 boot disk |
| 02:24:35 | doughecka | but better |
| 02:24:39 | doughecka | why? |
| 02:24:39 | Patlabor221 | not quite |
| 02:24:47 | Patlabor221 | it just blows out the dir tree |
| 02:24:57 | Patlabor221 | it dosn't create a proper map |
| 02:24:57 | doughecka | dats what I use it for |
| 02:25:10 | doughecka | for clearing out the old OS and putting in a new one... |
| 02:25:14 | Patlabor221 | and on a hard drive you want proper fat |
| 02:25:20 | Patlabor221 | exactly |
| 02:25:21 | doughecka | no icky waiting 5 hours for it to format |
| 02:25:25 | Patlabor221 | you want to have a perfect fat |
| 02:25:28 | doughecka | bah |
| 02:25:30 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:25:31 | Patlabor221 | since your OS is going on it |
| 02:25:33 | doughecka | I want one |
| 02:25:35 | Patlabor221 | lassy bitch |
| 02:25:40 | doughecka | but I dont want it |
| 02:25:47 | Patlabor221 | then you will get crap |
| 02:25:51 | doughecka | ERD commander 2002! |
| 02:25:59 | Patlabor221 | mr. "oh no ie died again" |
| 02:26:06 | doughecka | snickers |
| 02:26:20 | doughecka | I take great joy in seeing ie crash |
| 02:26:36 | Patlabor221 | you must not have anyting better to do then |
| 02:26:49 | MrApathyCream | starts to understand the phrase "their mostly working" |
| 02:27:06 | Patlabor221 | for? |
| 02:27:19 | doughecka | everything |
| 02:27:34 | Patlabor221 | and fat 32 blows goats anyway |
| 02:27:48 | doughecka | Life, the universe, and EVERYTHING!!! |
| 02:27:49 | Patlabor221 | hell can't even set per file permisions |
| 02:28:26 | doughecka | hehe |
| 02:28:30 | doughecka | thats 98 for ya |
| 02:31:17 | Patlabor221 | how big is your drive if it takes 5 hours to format? |
| 02:31:59 | doughecka | 1 terabyte |
| 02:32:23 | Patlabor221 | then did you wake up after that? |
| 02:32:43 | MrApathyCream | he's formatting over appletalk |
| 02:32:43 | doughecka | dunno, its all, like, hhaazzzyy |
| 02:32:50 | doughecka | ick appletalk? |
| 02:32:53 | Patlabor221 | I see |
| 02:32:54 | doughecka | too much overhead |
| 02:33:03 | doughecka | samba is thee best |
| 02:33:45 | Patlabor221 | why not normal windows networking |
| 02:33:51 | Patlabor221 | it's what samba is emulating? |
| 02:33:59 | Patlabor221 | why not just suport it nativly |
| 02:34:01 | doughecka | OS X and linux and windows... |
| 02:34:07 | doughecka | grins |
| 02:34:16 | Patlabor221 | using windows protocool |
| 02:34:24 | Patlabor221 | you can have Appletalk on windows |
| 02:34:28 | doughecka | sure |
| 02:34:30 | Patlabor221 | and I'm sure on linux too |
| 02:34:34 | doughecka | yup |
| 02:35:02 | doughecka | but its easyer to use free samba than buying a software appletalk system for windowz |
| 02:35:09 | doughecka | and its easyer too on leeenox |
| 02:35:13 | Patlabor221 | what? |
| 02:35:22 | Patlabor221 | it's just mac service for windows |
| 02:35:30 | Patlabor221 | it's part of the package |
| 02:35:36 | Patlabor221 | no extra |
| 02:35:53 | Patlabor221 | just turn on active directly and make sure you have services for mac |
| 02:36:08 | Patlabor221 | I just wonder why apple didn't put samba in the OS |
| 02:36:10 | doughecka | umm... |
| 02:36:16 | Patlabor221 | since they know everyone needs to connect to windows |
| 02:36:33 | doughecka | I have never seen services for macintosh on 2000 pro |
| 02:36:46 | doughecka | exept for sharing printers |
| 02:36:49 | Patlabor221 | that's what we use at work |
| 02:36:58 | doughecka | 2000 server sure |
| 02:37:02 | Patlabor221 | you have to have active directory services installed |
| 02:37:02 | doughecka | I used it too |
| 02:37:05 | doughecka | ah |
| 02:37:07 | Patlabor221 | and you have to be formated NTFS |
| 02:37:08 | doughecka | on server |
| 02:37:11 | Patlabor221 | but you can do it on pro |
| 02:37:17 | Patlabor221 | pro and server are the same |
| 02:37:22 | Patlabor221 | just difrent installs |
| 02:37:23 | doughecka | humphs |
| 02:37:41 | Patlabor221 | just like you can put IIS on pro |
| 02:37:49 | doughecka | yea.. |
| 02:37:54 | doughecka | but thats beside the point! |
| 02:38:03 | doughecka | linux has samba most likly |
| 02:38:07 | doughecka | OS X has smaba |
| 02:38:10 | doughecka | samba |
| 02:38:16 | doughecka | and windows has windows networking |
| 02:38:21 | doughecka | all works together! |
| 02:38:32 | Patlabor221 | I just find it funny that everyone complains about windows |
| 02:38:47 | Patlabor221 | well you complain about windows |
| 02:38:50 | doughecka | I complain about doors |
| 02:38:51 | Patlabor221 | and then you say it has the best networking |
| 02:39:00 | doughecka | it dont |
| 02:39:14 | doughecka | but its better than a hobbled togetther appletalk network |
| 02:39:29 | Patlabor221 | <doughecka> samba is thee best |
| 02:39:39 | Patlabor221 | and samba emulates windows networking |
| 02:39:48 | Patlabor221 | therefor |
| 02:39:57 | Patlabor221 | <doughecka> windows networking is thee best |
| 02:40:05 | zzz | can anyone help me i tried to download a map and install it but it would'nt work |
| 02:40:16 | Patlabor221 | how did you try to run it? |
| 02:40:31 | zzz | i put it in data |
| 02:40:42 | doughecka | ho ho |
| 02:40:47 | doughecka | you need to run a server |
| 02:40:48 | Patlabor221 | did you add the workd name to the command line? |
| 02:40:54 | Patlabor221 | doug depends on what OS |
| 02:41:02 | Patlabor221 | what OS are you on? |
| 02:41:06 | zzz | windows |
| 02:41:28 | SpacemanSpiff | Well guys, I'm off to bed |
| 02:41:29 | Patlabor221 | ok you need to add the world name to the server command line |
| 02:41:32 | SpacemanSpiff | God bless |
| 02:41:41 | Patlabor221 | no she never blesses me |
| 02:41:42 | SpacemanSpiff | Good-night |
| 02:41:43 | doughecka | cya! |
| 02:41:45 | zzz | how? |
| 02:41:46 | Patlabor221 | night |
| 02:41:56 | Patlabor221 | never used the command line before have you? |
| 02:42:12 | zzz | nope |
| 02:42:20 | doughecka | hah |
| 02:42:33 | doughecka | yells good luck and looks for his 2000 cd |
| 02:42:33 | zzz | how do i |
| 02:42:36 | Patlabor221 | the basic Idea is that you have to start a server manualy |
| 02:42:47 | Patlabor221 | then run BZ and connect to it |
| 02:42:55 | Patlabor221 | what specific OS are you on? |
| 02:43:15 | doughecka | thats about as basic as you can get, basicly |
| 02:43:33 | Patlabor221 | doug shut up if you are not gonna help |
| 02:43:40 | doughecka | hides |
| 02:43:59 | Patlabor221 | I should just make a bat file for this |
| 02:44:19 | doughecka | how hard would it be to make a proggy that would start the server? |
| 02:44:27 | Patlabor221 | I made one once |
| 02:44:33 | Patlabor221 | still have it somewhere |
| 02:44:36 | zzz | how do i start a sever manually |
| 02:44:37 | doughecka | yea, but its too old |
| 02:44:40 | Patlabor221 | CRS didn't like it tho |
| 02:44:43 | doughecka | I tryed it |
| 02:44:45 | Patlabor221 | hey it worked |
| 02:44:49 | Patlabor221 | zzz one sec |
| 02:44:59 | Patlabor221 | and I will make you a batfile that you can use |
| 02:45:11 | doughecka | hah |
| 02:45:42 | Patlabor221 | is it -w or -world ? |
| 02:45:49 | doughecka | -world |
| 02:47:22 | Patlabor221 | ok zzzz |
| 02:47:39 | Patlabor221 | get http://www.artemisgames.com/runserv.bat |
| 02:47:49 | Patlabor221 | put that in your BZFlag folder |
| 02:48:00 | Patlabor221 | then right click on it and chose "edit" |
| 02:48:22 | Patlabor221 | and replace where it says "YOUR_WORLD_HERE" with the name of the file you put in your data folder |
| 02:48:28 | Patlabor221 | then double click it |
| 02:48:44 | doughecka | bingo |
| 02:49:22 | Patlabor221 | the other way is to open the command prompt and run the server with those options from there |
| 02:49:22 | doughecka | yay |
| 02:49:25 | doughecka | dinahs online! |
| 02:49:35 | doughecka | shrugs |
| 02:49:40 | Patlabor221 | and this excites you? |
| 02:49:48 | doughecka | no |
| 02:49:55 | Patlabor221 | <doughecka> yay |
| 02:49:55 | Patlabor221 | <doughecka> dinahs online! |
| 02:50:02 | doughecka | oops, typo |
| 02:50:16 | Patlabor221 | sure it was |
| 02:50:17 | doughecka | I meant aya |
| 02:50:22 | Patlabor221 | right |
| 02:50:57 | Patlabor221 | hopes this is the 2k installer that dosn't ask for a product key |
| 02:51:20 | doughecka | found his 2k cd |
| 02:51:22 | zzz | i went to the link and it wont let me in |
| 02:51:39 | doughecka | wonders whats on this year old floppy |
| 02:51:44 | Patlabor221 | son of a fat bitch |
| 02:51:51 | Patlabor221 | hell do this |
| 02:52:02 | Patlabor221 | open the folder where BZ flag is and make a new text file |
| 02:52:04 | doughecka | are you sure hes fat... |
| 02:52:13 | Patlabor221 | he? |
| 02:52:20 | doughecka | she |
| 02:52:23 | Patlabor221 | read the entire line |
| 02:52:25 | Patlabor221 | there you go |
| 02:52:26 | Patlabor221 | and yes |
| 02:52:38 | doughecka | he problebly has hide extentions on too |
| 02:52:47 | Patlabor221 | the put bzfs.exe -j -world <YOUR STUFF HERE> |
| 02:53:02 | Patlabor221 | just put your world name in there instead of the caps |
| 02:53:05 | Patlabor221 | then save it |
| 02:53:12 | Patlabor221 | and rename it runme.bat |
| 02:53:16 | Patlabor221 | then double click it |
| 02:53:37 | Patlabor221 | my web server tired to execute the bat file :) |
| 02:54:05 | doughecka | lol |
| 02:54:25 | Patlabor221 | well I had them set it to run EXEs |
| 02:54:31 | Patlabor221 | not just pearl scripts |
| 02:54:38 | doughecka | ah |
| 02:54:38 | Patlabor221 | so it will try to run bats too |
| 02:54:46 | doughecka | lol, its a ISS server? |
| 02:54:50 | doughecka | or a apache? |
| 02:54:56 | Patlabor221 | I have no clue |
| 02:54:57 | captain_proton | doobeedoo |
| 02:55:03 | Patlabor221 | I think it's IIS |
| 02:55:06 | doughecka | ah |
| 02:55:10 | doughecka | figurs |
| 02:55:23 | Patlabor221 | I know it's on a windows machine |
| 02:55:29 | Patlabor221 | but I don't know what server they run |
| 02:55:41 | Patlabor221 | well it's actualy a good thing that it will run the bats |
| 02:55:44 | doughecka | captain_proton: yo, hows the 'ol head? |
| 02:55:46 | doughecka | yea... |
| 02:55:48 | Patlabor221 | gives me more options |
| 02:56:09 | doughecka | hehe, try renameing it to bta then having him download it... |
| 02:56:12 | doughecka | would go faster |
| 02:56:23 | Patlabor221 | he should be able to make a text file |
| 02:56:28 | Patlabor221 | if he can't do that |
| 02:56:32 | Patlabor221 | then he's beyond help |
| 02:56:35 | doughecka | yea, but he cant rename it |
| 02:56:45 | Patlabor221 | it's one tupping line |
| 02:56:56 | doughecka | heh |
| 02:56:56 | MrCooper | funny how nobody's on ducati when the server list doesn't work |
| 02:57:18 | doughecka | MrCooper: you dont know the REAL truth... |
| 02:57:39 | MrCooper | which is? |
| 02:58:23 | doughecka | 2000 server wont boot my floppy |
| 02:58:31 | doughecka | sad, truly sad |
| 02:58:50 | Patlabor221 | floppys are for pussys |
| 02:59:01 | Patlabor221 | real men have rigid disks |
| 02:59:10 | captain_proton | haha |
| 02:59:49 | Patlabor221 | boot from a zip if you must |
| 02:59:51 | doughecka | ick |
| 02:59:53 | doughecka | zip? |
| 02:59:56 | Patlabor221 | or a CD |
| 02:59:58 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 03:00:02 | Patlabor221 | you can boot to a zip |
| 03:00:05 | doughecka | double ick |
| 03:00:06 | doughecka | yea |
| 03:00:11 | doughecka | but I dont like zips |
| 03:00:19 | Patlabor221 | then CD |
| 03:00:23 | doughecka | send them through too many Xrays and they blow up |
| 03:00:45 | Patlabor221 | don't X ray them |
| 03:00:49 | Patlabor221 | and flopys would do the same |
| 03:00:51 | doughecka | gives up and looks for his XP cd |
| 03:01:00 | Patlabor221 | make a boot CD |
| 03:01:02 | doughecka | how? |
| 03:01:08 | Patlabor221 | you can make flopy emulating boot CDs |
| 03:01:11 | doughecka | has 2 options |
| 03:01:14 | Patlabor221 | roxio does it |
| 03:01:18 | Patlabor221 | nero does it |
| 03:01:22 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure others will |
| 03:01:28 | doughecka | a) install XP |
| 03:01:42 | doughecka | b) somehow make my computer book 2000 setup |
| 03:01:51 | doughecka | how? 2000 setup is 4 floppys? |
| 03:02:03 | Patlabor221 | your 2k CD isn't bootable? |
| 03:02:08 | doughecka | nope... |
| 03:02:23 | Patlabor221 | where did you get it? |
| 03:02:29 | doughecka | ummmm |
| 03:02:40 | doughecka | :) |
| 03:02:45 | Patlabor221 | warez or MSDN? |
| 03:02:46 | doughecka | friend |
| 03:02:58 | Patlabor221 | where did he get it? |
| 03:03:09 | doughecka | this cd has 2000 pro, server, and adv server.. |
| 03:03:13 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 03:03:14 | doughecka | snickers |
| 03:03:21 | Patlabor221 | then it's the msdn COMBO cd |
| 03:03:30 | Patlabor221 | those are not bootabke |
| 03:03:36 | doughecka | ah |
| 03:03:40 | Patlabor221 | they don't make those type anymore |
| 03:03:46 | doughecka | I also have a plain 2000 server cd |
| 03:03:47 | Patlabor221 | they make a DVD with all the ISOs |
| 03:03:51 | doughecka | oh? |
| 03:03:52 | doughecka | slick |
| 03:04:11 | doughecka | how do I make a cd bootable that has 4 floppys? |
| 03:04:11 | Patlabor221 | if it's just server, and wasn't made from the combo CD then it should be bootable |
| 03:04:18 | doughecka | it dont boot... |
| 03:04:24 | doughecka | its just server... |
| 03:04:26 | Patlabor221 | get a bootable 2k ISO |
| 03:04:30 | Patlabor221 | and burn that |
| 03:04:42 | doughecka | thinks its a MSDN server copy |
| 03:04:47 | doughecka | hmm |
| 03:04:49 | Patlabor221 | then it should boot |
| 03:04:57 | Patlabor221 | unless it was copied by an idiot |
| 03:05:02 | doughecka | MSDN combo copy |
| 03:05:10 | Patlabor221 | then no it's not botable |
| 03:05:12 | doughecka | they took server and copyed it to a cd |
| 03:05:20 | Patlabor221 | has new shoes :) |
| 03:05:25 | Patlabor221 | how lame is that? |
| 03:05:34 | doughecka | very... |
| 03:05:41 | doughecka | Making a Bootable Windows 2000 CD with Service Pack Integrated!! |
| 03:06:20 | doughecka | yay |
| 03:06:27 | doughecka | I got PNG2BZW |
| 03:06:32 | Patlabor221 | is too sexy for his shoes |
| 03:06:48 | Patlabor221 | is going to test out his new shoes |
| 03:06:52 | Patlabor221 | and get food |
| 03:06:54 | doughecka | hah |
| 03:06:56 | Patlabor221 | bbiab |
| 03:06:59 | doughecka | sprint to teh food |
| 03:07:01 | doughecka | go! |
| 03:07:05 | doughecka | chears Patlabor221 on |
| 03:07:11 | Patlabor221 | no I have to drive to the food |
| 03:07:15 | Patlabor221 | is away: Life is like a horse wearing a suit and smoking a cigar: hard to explain. |
| 03:07:24 | doughecka | testing your shoes by driving.. |
| 03:07:28 | doughecka | thats a new one on me |
| 03:07:36 | Patlabor221 | and walking around the store |
| 03:07:41 | Patlabor221 | no real food in house |
| 03:07:52 | doughecka | real.. |
| 03:07:59 | doughecka | stresses "real food" |
| 03:08:25 | Patlabor221 | yes I just have crap |
| 03:08:31 | Patlabor221 | is out the door |
| 03:08:33 | doughecka | grins |
| 03:08:38 | doughecka | keeps talking |
| 03:10:10 | doughecka | Note! Be sure only one "CDROM_Ix.5" file is in the root, otherwise booting will fail! |
| 03:10:16 | doughecka | shakes his head |
| 03:16:34 | doughecka | whats a .cpp? |
| 03:17:19 | doughecka | oh.. |
| 03:18:03 | captain_proton | shakes his head condescendingly |
| 03:18:34 | doughecka | how would I complie it? |
| 03:21:07 | captain_proton | i'd use a compiler, but thats just a guess |
| 03:21:35 | doughecka | ahhh, shuudup |
| 03:21:37 | doughecka | :) |
| 03:32:04 | MrApathyCream | ;) |
| 03:32:28 | doughecka | ;) |
| 03:32:49 | MrApathyCream | (; |
| 03:33:00 | doughecka | :O |
| 03:33:28 | MrApathyCream | my left eye got tired of blinking |
| 03:33:41 | doughecka | haha |
| 03:34:41 | | no checkins this week, sorry |
| 03:34:41 | MrApathyCream | ibot, cvs history? |
| 03:35:45 | doughecka | haha |
| 03:35:55 | | I haven't seen 'cvs', doughecka |
| 03:35:55 | doughecka | ibot seen cvs? |
| 03:35:58 | doughecka | hah |
| 03:36:12 | | pig was last seen on #bzflag 33 days, 13 hours, 24 minutes and 57 seconds ago, saying: is away: piug swinneeed [Tue Sep 24 08:11:15 2002] |
| 03:36:12 | doughecka | ibot seen pig |
| 03:36:17 | doughecka | hmm |
| 03:36:22 | | ACTION pukes over doughecka |
| 03:36:22 | doughecka | ibot puke |
| 03:36:25 | doughecka | yuk |
| 03:44:10 | Patlabor221 | is back (gone 00:36:55) |
| 03:44:18 | Patlabor221 | one again to the renagae mastta |
| 03:44:40 | doughecka | greets Patlabor221 |
| 03:44:49 | doughecka | taps his foot waiting for XP to install |
| 03:44:59 | doughecka | woo DivX DVD Players Arrive |
| 03:45:00 | Patlabor221 | pops a cap in doughecka |
| 03:45:06 | Patlabor221 | show me |
| 03:45:15 | | doughecka: what? |
| 03:45:15 | doughecka | ibot slashdo |
| 03:45:21 | doughecka | slashdot you dork |
| 03:45:28 | | Slashdot - Updated 2002-10-28 03:07:14 | DivX DVD Players Arrive | Stargate SG-1 Gets A Seventh Season | The Very Verbose Debian 3.0 Installation Walkthrough | Lik-Sang Back Online |
| 03:45:28 | doughecka | ibot slashdot |
| 03:46:11 | captain_proton | works his way out of doughecka |
| 03:46:14 | Patlabor221 | must purchase this thing |
| 03:46:15 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: don't EVER do that again |
| 03:46:22 | Patlabor221 | what? |
| 03:46:26 | doughecka | yea! |
| 03:46:28 | doughecka | you heard him! |
| 03:46:29 | Patlabor221 | go get food? |
| 03:46:30 | captain_proton | * Patlabor221 pops a cap in doughecka |
| 03:46:47 | Patlabor221 | difrent cap |
| 03:47:16 | Patlabor221 | pops a capp in doughecka |
| 03:47:19 | Patlabor221 | how's that? |
| 03:47:40 | captain_proton | better |
| 03:47:42 | doughecka | http://www.storybytes.com/moof.html |
| 03:47:54 | Patlabor221 | moof the cow dog |
| 03:48:03 | doughecka | yup |
| 03:48:19 | doughecka | can hide by facing the attacking person |
| 03:51:29 | Patlabor221 | moof has mad UT skillz |
| 03:51:48 | doughecka | hmmm, this divx players seems to be slick |
| 03:51:53 | doughecka | 350 USD |
| 03:51:57 | doughecka | and its yours |
| 03:52:06 | Patlabor221 | sweetbabby jesus and all the orphans |
| 03:52:32 | doughecka | (not avalible in all store. batterys not included. offer only avalibal for the next 5 min.) |
| 03:53:32 | Patlabor221 | by the eye of thundera I can not open this cheese |
| 03:53:40 | doughecka | names his computer: MOOF |
| 03:53:41 | Patlabor221 | who invented cheese? |
| 03:53:52 | doughecka | a camal I think |
| 03:53:53 | Patlabor221 | and then how did they convince other people to eat it? |
| 03:54:26 | Patlabor221 | I mean it's REALY REALY REALY old milk |
| 03:54:33 | doughecka | is away: bed time |
| 04:12:48 | Patlabor221 | rat bastards gave me a DSL router instead of a flips switch |
| 05:01:16 | Patlabor221 | why does chanserv allways set the topic wrong? |
| 05:07:22 | MrApathyCream | 7/me stumbles out |
| 05:07:33 | MrApathyCream | me stumbles out |
| 05:07:39 | MrApathyCream | stumbles out |
| 05:08:40 | Patlabor221 | now that was funny |
| 05:09:07 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: chanserv sets the topic back to the last one that BZFlag set |
| 05:11:01 | Patlabor221 | why does it like him soo much |
| 05:11:24 | Patlabor221 | should we not all be equal in the eyes of chanserv? |
| 05:11:56 | Patlabor221 | least I got rid of the silly binary word of the day :) |
| 06:28:31 | MrApathyCream | wow vegas mode is pretty kul |
| 06:28:40 | captain_proton | thought you'd like it |
| 06:29:28 | MrApathyCream | would be nice if it periodically blinked tho, like it's getting a short |
| 06:32:16 | captain_proton | it does though |
| 06:32:20 | captain_proton | must be your sill operating system |
| 06:32:29 | captain_proton | silly* |
| 06:32:40 | MrApathyCream | emm |
| 06:32:54 | MrApathyCream | unbreakable windoze |
| 07:44:52 | MrApathyCream | dang (VM) doesn't work on windoze |
| 07:48:49 | bomber | moin |
| 07:48:56 | MrApathyCream | tag |
| 09:09:35 | Pinguin | bomber: got my mic |
| 09:12:15 | bomber | he? |
| 09:12:39 | Pinguin | microphone ... works fine ... |
| 09:12:46 | bomber | do you have mic :o) |
| 09:13:32 | Pinguin | my multimedia-package is complete ... :-) |
| 09:13:37 | bomber | :o))) |
| 09:13:41 | bomber | are you ready? |
| 09:13:54 | Pinguin | always! |
| 09:14:13 | bomber | ok then at 17:30 |
| 09:14:17 | Pinguin | ??? |
| 09:14:21 | bomber | :o))))) |
| 09:14:26 | bomber | no time |
| 09:14:29 | bomber | no money |
| 09:14:31 | Pinguin | hahaha |
| 09:14:32 | bomber | no job |
| 09:14:37 | bomber | no comment |
| 09:14:42 | bomber | no problem |
| 09:14:45 | Pinguin | no joke? |
| 09:15:13 | bomber | no joke :o) |
| 09:15:22 | bomber | i am programming now and later |
| 09:15:28 | bomber | praktikum |
| 09:16:04 | bomber | and you ? |
| 09:16:13 | bomber | do you have time enough ? |
| 09:18:05 | Pinguin | i can manage my time! |
| 09:18:18 | bomber | HAHAHAHA |
| 09:18:29 | Pinguin | grins |
| 09:18:51 | bomber | Pinguin: tuesday-kinotag |
| 09:18:54 | bomber | ? |
| 09:19:11 | bomber | movie=pianist |
| 09:19:12 | Pinguin | which movie? |
| 09:19:23 | | pinguin: bugger all, i dunno |
| 09:19:23 | Pinguin | ibot cinema darmstadt? |
| 09:19:27 | Pinguin | hm ... |
| 09:20:02 | Pinguin | is there a web page for Da cinema? |
| 09:20:12 | prodan | guete morge |
| 09:20:16 | bomber | guete |
| 09:20:17 | Pinguin | moin |
| 09:20:30 | bomber | i dont know |
| 09:21:01 | bomber | grins better than pinguin |
| 09:21:46 | Pinguin | xXx / Minority Report / Army go home / Black hawk down ... |
| 09:21:58 | bomber | i guess you dont like such movies pinguin |
| 09:22:32 | bomber | for me is xxx and BHD ok...but martina :o)))??? |
| 09:22:42 | Pinguin | ask her ... |
| 09:22:56 | bomber | i have already asked |
| 09:23:01 | bomber | no chance :o))) |
| 09:23:09 | Pinguin | i saw yesterday advertise for: Army go home ... nice |
| 09:23:48 | bomber | total brutal ? |
| 09:24:06 | Pinguin | hm ... nicht wirklich brutal ... |
| 09:24:46 | bomber | das glaube ich nicht..:o)) wenn du sagst nice....:o) |
| 09:25:01 | prodan | suggests Pettersson und Findus |
| 09:25:47 | Pinguin | Whats this movie about? |
| 09:26:13 | prodan | my kids liked it ;-) |
| 09:26:13 | Pinguin | bomber: as far as i saw ... nobody dies !!! |
| 09:26:29 | Pinguin | prodan: oha ... |
| 09:27:08 | bomber | pinguin: impossible |
| 09:27:35 | Pinguin | i have seen a new merceds being shot ... |
| 09:27:44 | bomber | nice |
| 09:27:50 | Pinguin | ahem ... mercedes ... |
| 09:29:05 | Pinguin | ask martina ... i owe her anyway |
| 09:30:41 | bomber | i guess with such film you have no hance :o)))) |
| 09:30:45 | Pinguin | coffee-break |
| 10:39:16 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 10:39:16 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 10:39:18 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 10:47:40 | prodan | downloads a new free Wallace and Gromit short film from www.aardman.com |
| 10:50:26 | bomber | wait on ducati |
| 11:30:03 | Pinguin | a lot of work ... i see |
| 11:30:05 | Pinguin | a loooot of work ... and no time |
| 11:50:45 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 11:50:45 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 11:50:47 | bzbot | calico (R): 11 (29-18). The Meat (G): -6 (8-14). tai (G): 7 (19-12). bzlynx (R): -9 (11-20). MIRELLA (G): -1 (0-1). popup (G): -2 (3-5). beldin (R): -7 (2-9). |
| 12:03:51 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 12:03:51 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 12:03:52 | bzbot | calico (R): 20 (68-48). root (G): 8 (19-11). tai (G): 1 (47-46). dok (R): -2 (25-27). rincewind (G): -2 (12-14). popup (G): -16 (20-36). beldin (R): -8 (21-29). Riggs (R): -5 (7-12). |
| 12:09:55 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 12:09:55 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 12:09:56 | bzbot | root (G): 12 (31-19). tai (G): -8 (57-65). dok (R): 1 (43-42). popup (G): -22 (30-52). beldin (R): -10 (31-41). |
| 12:10:19 | | bzfquery turkey.moongroup.com 7500 |
| 12:10:19 | sussudio | ibot turkey |
| 12:10:27 | bzbot | Connection refused |
| 12:10:35 | sussudio | hm |
| 12:18:52 | Pinguin | HELP: where do the programmer-terms alpha- and beta-version derive from |
| 12:18:57 | Pinguin | ? |
| 12:19:14 | Chestal | from the Greek alphabet ;-) |
| 12:20:02 | Pinguin | no ... serious ... who said this the first time ... what's the history around it ... |
| 12:20:26 | Chestal | no idea |
| 12:20:42 | Pinguin | we discussed it during lunch with no result .... |
| 12:21:17 | Chestal | try 'jargon beta' |
| 12:21:20 | Chestal | ist discusses this |
| 12:21:32 | Pinguin | you mean google? |
| 12:21:52 | Chestal | in the jargon file, on Linux you might be lucky and just be able to type the above as a command |
| 12:22:19 | Pinguin | not on my system ... where is such a jargon file ... |
| 12:22:21 | Chestal | http://www.huis.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/jargon/LexiconEntries/Beta.html |
| 12:22:25 | Pinguin | thy |
| 12:22:29 | Pinguin | ups ... thx |
| 12:25:15 | Pinguin | AHA .. now i know ... knowledge is nice ... :-) |
| 13:01:37 | sussudio | burps |
| 13:12:02 | [TeA] | hahahahha |
| 13:12:06 | [TeA] | Pinguin ;) |
| 14:05:15 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:05:15 | prodan | ibot ducati |
| 14:05:16 | bzbot | Walter wolf (R): 0 (0-0). |
| 14:15:35 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 14:15:35 | [TeA] | ibot, ducati |
| 14:15:36 | bzbot | Walter wolf (R): -10 (14-24). prodan (penguins) (G): 13 (34-21). intrix (G): 0 (4-4). AikiBoi (G): -4 (5-9). Riggs (R): 2 (10-8). trubi (R): 1 (6-5). |
| 14:36:33 | Wilinckx | word of the day: Tupping. <-- What does that mean? |
| 14:39:56 | | doughecka: i don't know |
| 14:39:56 | doughecka | ibot tupping? |
| 14:39:59 | doughecka | dunno man |
| 14:40:10 | Wilinckx | heh ;-) |
| 14:40:16 | doughecka | woo |
| 14:40:28 | doughecka | a 200 kb bzflag map! |
| 14:40:51 | Wilinckx | uhm.... and how much fps can you get with a 1024x768 Geforce 4 mx 440 for that map? |
| 14:40:58 | Wilinckx | (32 bit color) |
| 14:41:34 | doughecka | dunnno |
| 14:41:40 | doughecka | its still generating |
| 14:41:54 | Wilinckx | hm |
| 15:14:08 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:14:08 | [TeA] | ibot, ducati |
| 15:14:10 | bzbot | Walter wolf (G): -10 (51-61). MakosTeszta (G): 0 (42-42). intrix (G): -12 (56-68). Riggs (R): 4 (43-39). prodan (penguins) (R): 13 (63-50). Rincewind (R): -7 (23-30). root(penguins) (R): 13 (49-36). Just me (G): -11 (13-24). |
| 16:05:58 | m0nkey_b0y | mornin |
| 16:13:14 | paul | morn |
| 16:13:33 | bomber | back |
| 16:13:39 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:13:39 | bomber | ibot ducati |
| 16:13:41 | bzbot | prodan (penguins) (R): 7 (15-8). root (penguins) (R): 7 (9-2). PRIMARY HARD DISK FAILURE (G): -3 (4-7). Rene (G): -8 (17-25). |
| 16:19:09 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 16:19:09 | bzlynx | ibot ducati |
| 16:19:11 | bzbot | B1 penguin (G): 5 (9-4). root (penguins) (R): 18 (27-9). Rene (G): 0 (0-0). bh (R): -1 (0-1). Berto (R): 0 (0-0). |
| 16:43:34 | m0nkey_b0y | mornin |
| 16:48:36 | doughecka | yawns |
| 16:48:44 | doughecka | greets Patlabor221 |
| 16:49:13 | doughecka | is away: busy |
| 17:04:39 | sussudio | lo BZFlag. |
| 17:05:27 | doughecka | waves his PNG2BZW proggy at sussudio |
| 17:06:44 | sussudio | doesnt really want anymore maps that were made with that. it's lazy and they make people lag. |
| 17:07:16 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:07:16 | doughecka | yea |
| 17:07:27 | doughecka | you should see what happens when I feed a 400x400 pixal image into it |
| 17:08:48 | doughecka | woo |
| 17:19:21 | sussudio | BZFlag: i built bzf 1.8 from cvs but my cursor keys are not working... is it broken? |
| 17:19:24 | doughecka | whew |
| 17:19:26 | doughecka | fixed it |
| 17:26:13 | BZFlag | sussudio: can't recall if 1.8 has keyboard movement or not. |
| 17:26:31 | sussudio | BZFlag: it's defined but it doesnt work |
| 17:27:09 | sussudio | <command>bind "Left Arrow" down "roam rotate left"</command> |
| 17:28:07 | sussudio | and so on |
| 17:35:24 | doughecka | yo Patlabor221 |
| 17:39:15 | sussudio | there's a cheatbot on bzbody.dedicatedpenguin |
| 17:39:25 | doughecka | ibot bzflist |
| 17:39:25 | | doughecka: bzflag.noodleroni.com:5155(4) 24.194.98.76:5155(2) larry.yi.org:5155(1) ducati.bzflag.org:5156(5) bzbody.dedicatedpenguin.com:5155(7) ds9.asms-ltd.co.uk:5155(6) chardonnay.math.bme.hu:5155(22) |
| 17:39:37 | doughecka | ibot bzfquery bzbody.dedicatedpenguin.com:5155 |
| 17:39:39 | | doughecka: X:0(0-0) R:0(0-0) G:0(1-1) P:-4(2-6) zomb(P)-4(2-6) TazMainiac(X)13(30-17) 1553228021(X)5(5-0) Ricky(R)0(0-0) Voldemort(X)3(18-15) ReD.SeCtOr.(X)-2(0-2) DAVIN(G)0(1-1) Ed(X)0(0-0) |
| 17:39:40 | doughecka | who? |
| 17:39:46 | sussudio | well......duh |
| 17:39:58 | doughecka | the number? |
| 17:39:59 | sussudio | take a wild guess |
| 17:40:02 | sussudio | yay |
| 17:40:05 | sussudio | you win a prize |
| 17:40:08 | doughecka | wild quess |
| 17:40:12 | doughecka | what prize? |
| 17:40:17 | doughecka | a stuffed turker? |
| 17:40:22 | doughecka | turkey? |
| 17:40:22 | sussudio | a month's supply of dogfood |
| 17:40:27 | doughecka | wooo |
| 17:40:37 | doughecka | I ALLways wanted that! |
| 17:41:02 | sussudio | i guess it's better than the KFC stuff |
| 17:47:28 | Patlabor221 | hye doug |
| 17:48:00 | doughecka | begins installing mandrake |
| 17:49:20 | PerfectCell | hey do u know what i say after im done with my editor classes!? |
| 17:49:35 | Patlabor221 | who is your daddy? |
| 17:50:06 | PerfectCell | i say like Patlabor221 it took me only 1 day to make a bzflag editor. Bwahahaha. :) |
| 17:50:21 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:50:37 | doughecka | Patlabor221: how hard would it be to add to the bzeditor to see .bzw files? |
| 17:51:00 | doughecka | oooh, slick name ak|ra |
| 17:51:07 | Patlabor221 | world files are simple |
| 17:51:08 | ak|ra | hei |
| 17:51:12 | PerfectCell | hi |
| 17:51:14 | ak|ra | :) |
| 17:51:18 | doughecka | yea, but I want it to show up in "open" |
| 17:51:37 | ak|ra | doughecka: this is the nick i am now registered too .. akira was given away and other stuff sounded crappy |
| 17:51:40 | ak|ra | hello bzflag |
| 17:51:40 | doughecka | so .map .bzw shows up |
| 17:51:52 | ak|ra | hello rest |
| 17:52:04 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:53:19 | ak|ra | and the | looks very similar to the i |
| 17:53:26 | doughecka | hehe |
| 17:53:27 | PerfectCell | ups all my stocks green today, lol |
| 17:53:35 | doughecka | ick stocks? |
| 17:53:45 | doughecka | I invest in nothing! |
| 17:53:57 | doughecka | hords his 2 DOLLAHs from everybody |
| 17:54:31 | PerfectCell | i invest half of my money, but its damn little |
| 17:54:45 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:55:16 | sussudio | i invest my money in large slabs of meat |
| 17:55:18 | sussudio | then i eat it |
| 17:55:19 | PerfectCell | just to get a little experience how the markets work |
| 17:55:23 | sussudio | with extra blood |
| 17:55:26 | doughecka | hah |
| 17:55:27 | doughecka | no fat |
| 17:55:51 | doughecka | invests in apple |
| 17:56:32 | PerfectCell | apple, bah |
| 17:56:45 | doughecka | invests in microsoft |
| 17:56:48 | doughecka | oops |
| 17:56:53 | PerfectCell | right |
| 17:56:55 | doughecka | dont have any left ot invest |
| 17:57:01 | doughecka | bill took it all |
| 17:57:06 | sussudio | invests in a crate of pepsi |
| 17:58:06 | doughecka | invests in a crate of coke |
| 17:59:03 | doughecka | anyone know how video4linux works? |
| 17:59:33 | | PerfectCell: i'm not following you... |
| 17:59:33 | PerfectCell | ibot en de "trailor trash ho" |
| 17:59:44 | | PerfectCell: what? |
| 17:59:44 | PerfectCell | ibot en de x "trailor trash ho" |
| 18:00:01 | doughecka | stfu |
| 18:00:06 | PerfectCell | ibot x en de "trailor trash ho" |
| 18:00:08 | sussudio | PerfectCell: tic tac toe? |
| 18:00:10 | doughecka | ibot x en de "trailor trash ho" |
| 18:00:13 | | PerfectCell: "trailor Abfall ho" |
| 18:00:15 | | doughecka: "trailor Abfall ho" |
| 18:00:20 | doughecka | LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL |
| 18:01:57 | doughecka | needs a random tree generator |
| 18:02:05 | PerfectCell | whats that? |
| 18:02:14 | doughecka | for bzflag worlds |
| 18:02:21 | doughecka | so I can make it look pretty |
| 18:02:28 | PerfectCell | ah |
| 18:10:23 | doughecka | mandrake is installed |
| 18:10:32 | doughecka | booting... |
| 18:10:33 | doughecka | beep |
| 18:11:42 | doughecka | BIOS thinks linux is a virus... |
| 18:12:43 | Pinguin | Yes ... but a good one! |
| 18:12:57 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:13:33 | doughecka | BIOS dint know what the linux MBR was |
| 18:13:48 | doughecka | and it said VIRUS and made a nasty sound |
| 18:13:56 | Pinguin | i thought that the bios wants to prevent ANY change in the mbr |
| 18:14:12 | doughecka | not on this one |
| 18:14:17 | Pinguin | at least the first 412(?) bytes |
| 18:14:25 | doughecka | I jusit was turned off |
| 18:14:28 | Pinguin | hm ... |
| 18:14:33 | Pinguin | must be less ... |
| 18:14:36 | doughecka | I turned it off now, and now it boots |
| 18:14:42 | doughecka | w00t, I got sound... |
| 18:15:32 | doughecka | hmm, gives a neat option... |
| 18:15:39 | doughecka | no password for root... |
| 18:15:43 | doughecka | interesting |
| 18:15:51 | Pinguin | GIVE ME YOUR IP! |
| 18:15:55 | Pinguin | FAST! LOL |
| 18:16:02 | doughecka | hah |
| 18:16:04 | doughecka | firewalled |
| 18:16:08 | Pinguin | :-( |
| 18:16:17 | doughecka | ibot nslookup heckaman.bzflag.com |
| 18:16:17 | | heckaman.bzflag.com is 208.147.39.133 |
| 18:16:20 | doughecka | :) |
| 18:16:49 | Pinguin | yours? |
| 18:16:53 | doughecka | yea |
| 18:17:03 | doughecka | needs to find the ATI video input driver... |
| 18:18:15 | Pinguin | SOMEONE familiar with conformal mapping? |
| 18:18:37 | doughecka | whats that? |
| 18:19:04 | Pinguin | stupid stuff i try to understand for 3 days :-( |
| 18:19:14 | doughecka | lol |
| 18:19:32 | doughecka | who in there right mind would put 2 ethernet cards in a desktop PC? |
| 18:19:37 | doughecka | swaps cables |
| 18:19:44 | Pinguin | you have a region ... you transform it into a simpler one and some characteristic remains ... |
| 18:19:57 | sussudio | someone with cable or dsl? |
| 18:20:40 | doughecka | nope |
| 18:21:37 | doughecka | bah |
| 18:23:50 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:23:50 | Pinguin | ibot ducati? |
| 18:23:51 | bzbot | MIRELLA (G): 1 (4-3). Yeti (R): 12 (29-17). ypsilon (G): -15 (8-23). fiberchunks (R): -2 (14-16). y o y o x (R): -1 (0-1). |
| 18:24:13 | Pinguin | hm .. a green is missing ... |
| 18:24:37 | Pinguin | i can fix this :-) |
| 18:25:58 | doughecka | bah, its not showing up on the hub! |
| 18:25:58 | doughecka | it was workinh perfectly in XP |
| 18:25:59 | doughecka | but now its not workin |
| 18:27:23 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:27:23 | sussudio | ibot ducati |
| 18:27:24 | bzbot | MIRELLA (G): 5 (15-10). Yeti (R): 12 (38-26). ypsilon (G): -19 (13-32). B1 penguin (R): 1 (5-4). Pinguin (G): 1 (5-4). Barfy The Bushkangaroo (R): -1 (2-3). |
| 19:21:50 | doughecka | bah, how do I shut down Xserver and keep it from restarting? |
| 19:22:18 | sussudio | why dont you ask in #xfree86 |
| 19:22:18 | sussudio | haha |
| 19:22:26 | doughecka | haha yourself |
| 19:22:32 | doughecka | the place is empty |
| 19:22:36 | sussudio | hah! |
| 19:23:05 | sussudio | #xfree86 *!*@adsl-39-133.lou.bluegrass.net set by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. (Sun Oct 27 04:09:33) |
| 19:27:22 | doughecka | ? |
| 19:27:26 | sussudio | ban list |
| 19:27:26 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:27:27 | doughecka | shrugs |
| 19:27:35 | doughecka | they are useless anyway |
| 19:27:39 | sussudio | you could always *cough* use cgi-irc *cough* |
| 19:30:08 | doughecka | nope |
| 19:30:08 | doughecka | they have voice turned off |
| 19:30:08 | doughecka | for them |
| 19:30:10 | sussudio | lalala |
| 19:30:10 | doughecka | lilili |
| 19:31:21 | sussudio | Your Rights Online: Spanish Web Sites Go Blank To Protest New Rules |
| 19:31:22 | sussudio | ( Read More... | 1 of 5 comments | Your Rights Online ) |
| 19:31:29 | sussudio | in short..... nobody gives a flying fsck |
| 19:31:45 | doughecka | haha |
| 19:32:07 | sussudio | spain sux0rs, ole! |
| 19:33:44 | doughecka | ole ole! |
| 19:33:46 | | ole is (see Object Linking and Embedding) see Object Linking and Embedding |
| 19:33:46 | doughecka | ibot ole |
| 19:33:52 | doughecka | hmm |
| 19:34:24 | doughecka | 6 min remaining for xfree 4.1.0 |
| 19:35:42 | doughecka | is beos still downloadable? |
| 19:36:15 | doughecka | 4 min remaining |
| 19:37:49 | doughecka | Saddam's Inbox Hacked |
| 19:47:58 | sussudio | "Consumers Shun Copy-Protected CDs" |
| 19:48:20 | sussudio | in other news....... "Consumers don't like sticking forks into their eyeballs" |
| 19:48:32 | doughecka | bwuahaha |
| 19:48:58 | sussudio | hmmmmmmmmm |
| 19:49:08 | sussudio | NRA-whackjob compared guns to redlight district in amsterdam |
| 19:49:13 | sussudio | whores dont kill people, dude |
| 19:49:22 | sussudio | well not today anyway |
| 19:49:38 | sussudio | maybe the 5 dollah ho's |
| 19:53:03 | doughecka | ...states are ready to try and tax... bad grammer |
| 19:53:08 | doughecka | grins |
| 19:53:28 | sussudio | hm bad grammar on slashdot... who'd have thought. |
| 19:53:36 | sussudio | bad spelling in a comment about grammar, on the other hand..... |
| 19:53:46 | doughecka | hah |
| 19:53:53 | doughecka | hmm |
| 19:53:56 | doughecka | xfree starts |
| 19:54:01 | doughecka | thats a good sign |
| 19:54:15 | doughecka | wonders how to check that 4.1.0 is the version installed |
| 19:54:53 | sussudio | dpkg -l xserver-xfree86 |
| 19:55:01 | doughecka | in mandrake |
| 19:55:04 | sussudio | HAHA |
| 19:55:13 | sussudio | sucka |
| 19:55:22 | doughecka | cant wait for RH 8 |
| 19:57:14 | doughecka | ppff |
| 19:57:14 | doughecka | my friends getting me a copy |
| 19:57:25 | sussudio | friends dont let friends use redhat |
| 19:59:54 | doughecka | lol |
| 20:25:10 | sussudio | ok spiffy is being a dork...... |
| 20:25:21 | captain_proton | where is he? :) |
| 20:25:41 | sussudio | he's all being "im a bzcop and i'm going to kick his prostetic penis for having that nick" |
| 20:25:50 | sussudio | anyone want to logon to jzaun and use something offensive? |
| 20:25:50 | captain_proton | what server?? |
| 20:25:54 | sussudio | jzaun |
| 20:26:00 | captain_proton | i'll do what i did yesterday |
| 20:26:03 | captain_proton | hunt him :) |
| 20:26:07 | captain_proton | pissed him off like hell |
| 20:27:10 | sussudio | heh |
| 20:30:41 | sussudio | well so far for that server |
| 20:30:42 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 20:30:42 | sussudio | ibot jzaun |
| 20:37:53 | captain_proton | ibot bzfquery jzaun.com:5155 |
| 20:37:54 | | captain_proton: X:0(0-0) R:-1(0-1) G:-4(5-9) P:0(0-0) goiz(X)5(11-6) Just me(G)2(4-2) Osprey Driver(P)0(0-0) snike(R)-1(0-1) Dirty D.(G)-1(0-1) Sniper(X)-8(0-8) Clumzzey(G)-5(1-6) Timmy, age 7(X)0(1-1) |
| 20:41:08 | Patlabor221 | ahh there we go. all things are now in there proper place. |
| 20:41:41 | Patlabor221 | doug can't wait for PH8 |
| 20:41:44 | Patlabor221 | RH8 |
| 20:41:50 | Patlabor221 | won't that be a long wait? |
| 20:41:57 | Patlabor221 | like infinate? |
| 20:42:06 | sussudio | yeah....... any sane person would avoid rh versions .0 and .1 |
| 20:42:14 | scanline | http://picogui.org/download/picosm_big.png |
| 20:43:08 | captain_proton | scanline: thexy |
| 20:43:10 | Patlabor221 | my RH 8 systems seems to be runing fine |
| 20:43:19 | Patlabor221 | tho it needs a new vid card |
| 20:44:18 | captain_proton | scanline: it looks like some of the gnomers are starting to put real translucency in their apps |
| 20:44:29 | scanline | define "real"? |
| 20:45:29 | captain_proton | http://www.tinytoad.com/dkennedy/acme_transparent.png -- first hack i've seen |
| 20:45:46 | scanline | ah. using RENDER? |
| 20:45:54 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 20:45:58 | scanline | neat |
| 20:46:50 | scanline | wonders if X will ever get a blurring primitive >:) |
| 20:46:57 | captain_proton | eek |
| 20:47:26 | captain_proton | that'd be cool though |
| 20:47:41 | scanline | http://images.freshmeat.net/screenshots/28275.jpg |
| 20:48:04 | captain_proton | i think we need to be able to define arbitrary GL functions on top of the display |
| 20:48:27 | scanline | yep |
| 20:48:56 | captain_proton | use vertex programs to have a translucent window filled with water |
| 20:49:02 | scanline | yumm |
| 20:49:17 | captain_proton | that you can causticize with the mouse :) :) |
| 20:49:28 | scanline | that should be possible with picogui's opengl support, eventually |
| 20:49:34 | scanline | scurries off to class |
| 20:50:21 | sussudio | does it matter what way you put empty eggcartons when you want to dampen sound? |
| 20:50:55 | captain_proton | sussudio: you gotta stick em in your ears |
| 20:51:01 | captain_proton | either end should be fine |
| 20:51:04 | sussudio | i tried that, didnt fit |
| 20:51:13 | captain_proton | you obviously didn't try hard enough |
| 20:51:14 | sussudio | k.... it will mostly dampen high frequencies, right |
| 20:58:58 | Patlabor221 | perhaps some sort of pnumatic ear insertion device would help |
| 20:59:18 | doughecka | bah |
| 20:59:21 | doughecka | silly software |
| 20:59:27 | doughecka | wont run.... |
| 20:59:30 | Patlabor221 | like haha silly? |
| 20:59:34 | doughecka | give error |
| 20:59:38 | Patlabor221 | that dosn't souds silly |
| 20:59:43 | Patlabor221 | unless it's a clown error |
| 20:59:56 | doughecka | make doughecka throw rolodex threw screen |
| 20:59:56 | captain_proton | i like clown errors |
| 21:00:10 | ak|ra | hey freaky |
| 21:00:11 | ak|ra | hey freaks |
| 21:00:24 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:00:33 | ak|ra | working on a raytracer at the moment and thinking about the materials stuff |
| 21:00:57 | doughecka | bah, the program starts.... |
| 21:00:59 | doughecka | then it dies |
| 21:01:26 | ak|ra | would like to do it this way: list<material>; traverse list_of_materials and combine resulting colors for the actual hitpoint |
| 21:02:05 | ak|ra | captain_proton: Patlabor221 something like a shading language or materialcombiner .. does it sound reasonable to you? |
| 21:02:41 | Patlabor221 | well you need some way to store the material properies |
| 21:02:48 | Patlabor221 | like a RenderMan shader |
| 21:03:02 | Patlabor221 | those were writen in code |
| 21:03:06 | Patlabor221 | they would take the ray |
| 21:03:16 | Patlabor221 | and apply there thing to it |
| 21:03:18 | ak|ra | Patlabor221: thats my idea |
| 21:03:22 | ak|ra | exactly |
| 21:03:27 | Patlabor221 | then pass it to the next one in the list |
| 21:03:28 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:03:31 | ak|ra | exactly |
| 21:03:33 | ak|ra | cool |
| 21:03:37 | Patlabor221 | that's how all the pixar stuff is done |
| 21:03:51 | ak|ra | thought it the right way in the lecture about intellegent systems :)) me was so boring |
| 21:04:00 | Patlabor221 | I hear the dirt shader in bugs life was like 1.5 megs of compiled code. |
| 21:05:07 | Patlabor221 | now on a raytracer do you cast from the light to the scene? or from the eyepoint to the scene? |
| 21:05:12 | ak|ra | i d like to give the material the object its self, lights and another thing i forgot. so one "shader" is done, the actual "hitpoint" is colored or modified by that shader and the next is applied after this |
| 21:05:38 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: raytracer is eyepoint to scene |
| 21:05:40 | Patlabor221 | yes you would go from the light to the eye bouncing off everything that was hit |
| 21:05:41 | ak|ra | at the moment the first ray is send from the eye ... |
| 21:06:16 | Patlabor221 | and then you just see where it hits? and if maybe it hits a light? |
| 21:06:17 | ak|ra | at the moment i am rewriting the code they gave us as the basic ... |
| 21:06:21 | scan[ibook] | hmm |
| 21:06:45 | scan[ibook] | Are lightmaps calculated from light to wall or from wall to light? |
| 21:06:47 | Patlabor221 | is there 1 ray from the eye for each image pixel? |
| 21:06:53 | scan[ibook] | Patlabor221: yes |
| 21:06:56 | ak|ra | but i didnt like the parser, the code almost everything .. and so i am planning to set up things "right" -> now i was at the materials sections and thought about it |
| 21:07:09 | Patlabor221 | that's a lot of bouncing :) |
| 21:07:41 | scan[ibook] | Patlabor221: less bouncing that sending a ray out every possible angle from every light |
| 21:07:48 | ak|ra | at the moment my stuff is very basic .. but i see end of the light :)) |
| 21:07:52 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's what I was thinking |
| 21:07:55 | Patlabor221 | would be infinate |
| 21:07:59 | scan[ibook] | nods |
| 21:08:16 | Patlabor221 | I've used raytracers, and knew that they basicly did that but wasn't sure |
| 21:09:43 | captain_proton | raycasting rendering works, but you have to heavily restrict the number of rays from each light source |
| 21:09:46 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: I need a name for my model converter |
| 21:09:54 | Patlabor221 | how does "meshsmith" sound? |
| 21:09:54 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: billy |
| 21:10:08 | captain_proton | meshmith :) |
| 21:10:09 | Patlabor221 | I like "Tessa" |
| 21:10:16 | Patlabor221 | ooooooooooo |
| 21:10:20 | Patlabor221 | you are the smartman |
| 21:10:21 | scan[ibook] | Vector Erector 2000 |
| 21:10:27 | captain_proton | ooh i like scan[ibook]'s |
| 21:10:41 | Patlabor221 | 2000 is over |
| 21:10:46 | scan[ibook] | Vector Erector 20000 |
| 21:10:51 | Patlabor221 | would need to be 3000 |
| 21:10:59 | Patlabor221 | well it's not a modeler |
| 21:11:04 | captain_proton | Vector Erector XP |
| 21:11:08 | scan[ibook] | dies |
| 21:11:15 | scan[ibook] | meshsmith sounds like a modeler |
| 21:11:19 | Patlabor221 | just a model loader/ exporter/ dicker wither |
| 21:11:36 | scan[ibook] | meshbender |
| 21:11:59 | scan[ibook] | has the added bonus of sounding like something you'd find in The Matix |
| 21:12:01 | Patlabor221 | any by dick with I mean just remove frames/smoth normals and set names |
| 21:12:05 | scan[ibook] | s/Matix/Matrix/ |
| 21:12:08 | captain_proton | anything sounds better with 'XP' after it |
| 21:12:11 | captain_proton | meshbender XP |
| 21:12:15 | sussudio | liquifies doug and feeds him to scanline |
| 21:12:18 | captain_proton | dickerwither XP |
| 21:12:24 | Patlabor221 | meshmaster 2000 |
| 21:12:26 | scan[ibook] | vomits quietly on sussudio |
| 21:12:29 | ak|ra | baeh |
| 21:12:32 | doughecka | hah |
| 21:12:32 | Patlabor221 | better then the DFrutFucker3000 |
| 21:12:45 | sussudio | scan[ibook]: since you're actually submerged, you'd be vomiting in your own goo |
| 21:12:47 | scan[ibook] | how about ThisClassIsBoring XP |
| 21:12:55 | doughecka | hah |
| 21:12:59 | scan[ibook] | sussudio: nobody submerged me :P |
| 21:13:09 | sussudio | scan[ibook]: that's what they want you to think |
| 21:13:11 | captain_proton | pushes scan[ibook] into the creek |
| 21:13:16 | scan[ibook] | aiieeee! |
| 21:13:20 | Patlabor221 | you have a creek>? |
| 21:13:24 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yeah |
| 21:13:26 | scan[ibook] | throws a salmon of doubt at captain_proton |
| 21:13:35 | Patlabor221 | stinky doubt |
| 21:13:38 | doughecka | or crik as we say here |
| 21:14:03 | Patlabor221 | MeshTupper 3000 |
| 21:14:47 | scan[ibook] | MeshDoodad XP |
| 21:15:02 | sussudio | Meshopotamia |
| 21:15:10 | Patlabor221 | LOL |
| 21:15:20 | scan[ibook] | meshtamotapotapoiea |
| 21:15:32 | Patlabor221 | meshinator |
| 21:15:41 | sussudio | scan[ibook]: isnt that the king of new guinea? |
| 21:15:41 | captain_proton | ooooo |
| 21:15:48 | scan[ibook] | hmm |
| 21:15:53 | captain_proton | sussudio: damn good |
| 21:15:55 | scan[ibook] | imagines the horrible command line syntax |
| 21:16:05 | Patlabor221 | command line? |
| 21:16:18 | scan[ibook] | meshtamotapotapoiea --please-do-something-interesting-to-this-mesh --file-thingy=blah.foo |
| 21:16:18 | Patlabor221 | no no we don't DO command line tools here |
| 21:16:26 | SpacemanSpiff | Hey everyone |
| 21:16:31 | scan[ibook] | Patlabor221: what else is there, GUIs suck |
| 21:16:45 | Patlabor221 | well since you have to see the mesh to do something |
| 21:16:52 | Patlabor221 | it will have a display |
| 21:17:01 | scan[ibook] | aalib, man! |
| 21:17:01 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: one word: ascii art |
| 21:17:02 | SpacemanSpiff | I'm trying to learn some Java stuff... but when I run my first app I get an error message.. can any of you help? |
| 21:17:06 | Patlabor221 | and this is coming from mr. pico GUI |
| 21:17:22 | Patlabor221 | is the error "dont' use java it's slow"? |
| 21:17:44 | scan[ibook] | Patlabor221: and it's going to mr. arguminitive :) |
| 21:17:53 | captain_proton | probably something more along the lines of "if you don't dick around with your CLASSPATH i'm not going to run" |
| 21:17:54 | sussudio | SpacemanSpiff: is it the error "Please insert prostetic penis command"? |
| 21:17:55 | Patlabor221 | that's me |
| 21:18:18 | Patlabor221 | no sussudio only you get that error |
| 21:18:31 | ak|ra | Patlabor221: :)) |
| 21:18:39 | sussudio | no, they made that especially for spiff |
| 21:18:44 | SpacemanSpiff | Excuse me? :P |
| 21:18:53 | Patlabor221 | don't worry bout him |
| 21:18:55 | Patlabor221 | what is your error |
| 21:19:03 | captain_proton | worries |
| 21:19:06 | Patlabor221 | then we shall taunt you for a second time |
| 21:19:07 | doughecka | This should not happen? |
| 21:19:22 | SpacemanSpiff | Okay..... the file name (as they told me in the tutorial) is HelloWorldApp.java |
| 21:19:30 | doughecka | no... |
| 21:19:33 | doughecka | :P |
| 21:19:56 | scan[ibook] | tosses a crufty motif widget at Patlabor221 |
| 21:20:11 | captain_proton | motif? you're too nice |
| 21:20:13 | captain_proton | XAW! |
| 21:20:18 | SpacemanSpiff | Well, I've got to the C:/Java file folder.. and now they tell me to type javac HelloWorldApp.java |
| 21:20:19 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh not motif |
| 21:20:30 | scan[ibook] | captain_proton: hehe |
| 21:20:34 | scan[ibook] | or even worse... |
| 21:20:44 | Patlabor221 | where is the file you made? |
| 21:20:48 | captain_proton | borland windows pseudo-widgets? |
| 21:20:48 | scan[ibook] | tosses a Win32 "widget" at Patlabor221 |
| 21:20:49 | Patlabor221 | in that folder? |
| 21:20:55 | SpacemanSpiff | However, when I type that... I get the message Too many parameters- HelloWorldApp.java |
| 21:21:05 | SpacemanSpiff | In the C:/Java file folder |
| 21:21:13 | scan[ibook] | captain_proton: ooh, those were bad too |
| 21:21:25 | Patlabor221 | you should do a javac /? to see what the options are |
| 21:21:33 | Patlabor221 | was the book writen for windows? |
| 21:21:37 | scan[ibook] | unglues all the widgets from a book of UI bloopers and opens the book above Patlabor221's head |
| 21:21:48 | Patlabor221 | scanline: no this is a cheap ass MFC app |
| 21:21:54 | Patlabor221 | since it' needs to be done quicly |
| 21:21:57 | captain_proton | AUGH! MFC |
| 21:21:59 | captain_proton | dies |
| 21:22:06 | scan[ibook] | oh.. so it's portable to exaclty 1 platform |
| 21:22:09 | Patlabor221 | then I'll put a real interface around the classes later |
| 21:22:15 | scan[ibook] | and exactly 1 programming language |
| 21:22:20 | scan[ibook] | and exactly 1 CPU |
| 21:22:26 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: thats what you said about bzedit, and you still haven't wrapped the interface |
| 21:22:31 | Patlabor221 | I'm just using it for a proto |
| 21:22:42 | Patlabor221 | I'm waiting for you to finish your world stuff |
| 21:22:47 | scan[ibook] | good god, C++ and MFS for prototyping |
| 21:22:50 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: heh |
| 21:22:54 | scan[ibook] | s/MFS/MFC/ |
| 21:22:57 | scan[ibook] | use python or something |
| 21:22:58 | Patlabor221 | it's what I know |
| 21:23:06 | SpacemanSpiff | It's definitely windows... here's the link......... |
| 21:23:07 | scan[ibook] | there's a reason humans can learn |
| 21:23:13 | SpacemanSpiff | http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/win32.html |
| 21:23:22 | Patlabor221 | human? |
| 21:23:40 | Patlabor221 | spif it seems like your jcompiter is fifrent |
| 21:23:43 | Patlabor221 | difrent |
| 21:23:49 | Patlabor221 | check it's options |
| 21:24:25 | SpacemanSpiff | Hmm... well, could it be that I changed the name of the file folder that my Java stuff is in??? |
| 21:24:25 | ak|ra | so, bye all |
| 21:24:31 | Patlabor221 | scanline: I don't have anything else bedides MFC here that will let me easaly layout and setup dialogs |
| 21:24:42 | Patlabor221 | spif maybe |
| 21:25:04 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: ugg, learn GTK+ - it'll make your life 100 times easier |
| 21:25:20 | Patlabor221 | wasn't that stable in windows |
| 21:25:31 | Patlabor221 | least the 2.0 stuff wasn't |
| 21:25:35 | captain_proton | who needs windows? |
| 21:25:38 | doughecka | SHEESH! |
| 21:25:38 | Patlabor221 | me |
| 21:25:48 | SpacemanSpiff | It should be jdk1.4.0_02 or something like that... and I changed mine to jdk1.2.0_02 so that I could run the BZ World editor |
| 21:25:54 | Patlabor221 | get paied the money to make windows software |
| 21:25:59 | doughecka | I hate installing software that needs 5 other dependensys! |
| 21:26:14 | captain_proton | doughecka: um, don't you use debian? |
| 21:26:17 | doughecka | no |
| 21:26:19 | doughecka | mandrake |
| 21:26:31 | doughecka | waiting for my redhat cds to come in |
| 21:26:32 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 21:26:32 | sussudio | ibot jzaun |
| 21:26:43 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: do you want 1) a UT to BZG converter, and 2) a model manager for jetstream or not? :) |
| 21:26:51 | doughecka | 1) |
| 21:26:56 | doughecka | pick 1 captain_proton! |
| 21:27:05 | Patlabor221 | I am trying to make both here |
| 21:27:11 | Patlabor221 | with the same set of classes |
| 21:27:14 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: sure, why not, 2 is more interesting to me though |
| 21:27:23 | Patlabor221 | it's all part of the same thing |
| 21:27:41 | captain_proton | i oughta get you a copy of the ported soundmanager too |
| 21:27:44 | Patlabor221 | I just needed an app to test out the classes |
| 21:28:06 | Patlabor221 | and let me mess with the flag model |
| 21:30:13 | doughecka | weee ie crashes! |
| 21:30:17 | doughecka | KABOOM!! |
| 21:30:28 | Patlabor221 | why do you keep changin OSs? |
| 21:30:45 | doughecka | I dont |
| 21:30:56 | Patlabor221 | 2 days a go you were all over debian |
| 21:31:04 | doughecka | burns the debian cd |
| 21:31:10 | doughecka | I only have mandrake cds |
| 21:31:16 | doughecka | I have the debain ISO |
| 21:31:22 | Patlabor221 | then you lie constantly |
| 21:31:24 | doughecka | I coulnt burn the ISO.. |
| 21:31:36 | doughecka | so now I can burn a ISO |
| 21:31:38 | doughecka | and I am |
| 21:32:33 | doughecka | woo |
| 21:32:38 | doughecka | 900 kbs |
| 21:32:43 | doughecka | 1.1 mbs |
| 21:32:51 | doughecka | odd why it aint going very fast |
| 21:33:10 | doughecka | lots 'o collisions |
| 21:45:05 | doughecka | begins the debian install |
| 21:50:10 | sussudio | bans doughecka from #Debian |
| 21:50:20 | doughecka | why? |
| 21:50:46 | sussudio | cause its fun? |
| 21:50:50 | sussudio | la la la |
| 21:50:51 | captain_proton | you're not allowed to use the distro if you aren't banned |
| 21:50:57 | doughecka | haha |
| 21:54:20 | doughecka | gaagagaa |
| 21:55:00 | sussudio | apt-get install dougs_brain |
| 21:55:34 | doughecka | apt-get install head_smasher_over_sussudios_head |
| 22:05:22 | [dmp] | dosnt work: E: Couldn't find package dougs_brain |
| 22:05:27 | [dmp] | :) |
| 22:06:14 | doughecka | haha |
| 22:07:29 | doughecka | apt-get -configure sussudios_brain |
| 22:07:51 | captain_proton | needs more gorecki |
| 22:08:03 | | doughecka: i'm not following you... |
| 22:08:03 | doughecka | ibot gorecki |
| 22:08:17 | BZFlag | [dmp]: check here then: http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?BZFlag |
| 22:08:26 | captain_proton | BZFlag: ;) |
| 22:08:31 | doughecka | haha |
| 22:09:13 | [dmp] | argh :) |
| 22:09:21 | BZFlag | hehe |
| 22:09:52 | [dmp] | does this mean, i need to switch to an undead team? |
| 22:09:57 | doughecka | hah |
| 22:10:31 | [dmp] | hmm, hey.. that would be could.. You can't kill undead people.. |
| 22:10:41 | doughecka | lol |
| 22:10:43 | [dmp] | argh fuck, brain malfunction.. "that would be cool" |
| 22:12:15 | | captain_proton: huh? |
| 22:12:15 | captain_proton | ibot gorecki was a modern polish composer |
| 22:12:25 | | OK, captain_proton. |
| 22:12:25 | captain_proton | ibot gorecki is a dead modern polish composer |
| 22:12:37 | doughecka | ah |
| 22:12:42 | doughecka | was/is? |
| 22:12:45 | doughecka | snickers |
| 22:13:08 | captain_proton | hmm wait |
| 22:13:14 | | captain_proton: I forgot gorecki |
| 22:13:14 | captain_proton | ibot forget gorecki |
| 22:13:17 | | OK, captain_proton. |
| 22:13:17 | captain_proton | ibot gorecki is a maybe-dead modern polish composer |
| 22:14:27 | | doughecka: I forgot gorecki |
| 22:14:27 | doughecka | ibot forget gorecki |
| 22:14:32 | | OK, doughecka. |
| 22:14:32 | doughecka | ibot gorecki is <reply> Is a dead modern polish composer |
| 22:14:36 | | Is a dead modern polish composer |
| 22:14:36 | doughecka | ibot gorecki? |
| 22:15:07 | captain_proton | i said maybe dead you fool |
| 22:15:12 | captain_proton | and no need for a <reply> |
| 22:15:13 | | captain_proton: I forgot gorecki |
| 22:15:13 | captain_proton | ibot forget gorecki |
| 22:15:16 | | OK, captain_proton. |
| 22:15:16 | captain_proton | ibot gorecki is a maybe-dead modern polish composer |
| 22:17:20 | | I haven't seen 'gorecki', doughecka |
| 22:17:20 | doughecka | ibot seen gorecki |
| 22:17:25 | doughecka | bah, hes dead |
| 22:17:37 | sussudio | you are |
| 22:18:52 | doughecka | pig |
| 22:20:52 | sussudio | Doug Heckapants, Aged 12, died from having a red hat 8 cd inserted violently into his nose |
| 22:21:38 | doughecka | whos he? |
| 22:21:41 | sussudio | his body will be cremated and the ashes will be fed to kentucky chickens |
| 22:22:31 | sussudio | here chickie chickie |
| 22:22:35 | doughecka | sussudio = GreyPoopon |
| 22:53:13 | captain_proton | hunting spiff is endlessly amusing |
| 22:53:23 | doughecka | lol |
| 22:53:41 | captain_proton | now i'm MAD! you better watch out! |
| 22:53:57 | doughecka | hah |
| 22:54:32 | captain_proton | watches out |
| 22:55:13 | sussudio | ibot bzflist |
| 22:55:14 | | sussudio: jzaun.com:5155(1) bzflag.noodleroni.com:5155(6) larry.yi.org:5155(1) ducati.bzflag.org:5156(7) bzbody.dedicatedpenguin.com:5155(10) 66.207.0.59:5164(6) grepped.net:5155(2) |
| 22:55:21 | sussudio | what server is he on |
| 22:56:05 | sussudio | bzfquery grepped.net 5155 |
| 22:56:18 | captain_proton | he left |
| 22:56:21 | captain_proton | used to be on bzbody |
| 22:56:22 | sussudio | aw |
| 22:56:26 | doughecka | ibot bzfquery grepped.net:5155 |
| 22:56:29 | | doughecka: X:0(0-0) R:-15(21-36) Chacho(R)-19(18-37) Proque(X)-18(8-26) |
| 22:56:30 | captain_proton | ooh now he's on jzaun |
| 22:56:34 | captain_proton | goes |
| 22:56:54 | doughecka | ibot bzfquery jzaun.com:5155 |
| 22:56:55 | | doughecka: X:0(0-0) R:0(0-0) [RLF] Spaceman Spiff(X)0(0-0) gman(R)0(0-0) Ogbert(X)0(0-0) |
| 22:59:12 | doughecka | created 170 boxes just for his name |
| 23:04:58 | | bzfquerylong jzaun.com 5155 |
| 23:04:58 | sussudio | ibot jzaun |
| 23:06:34 | sussudio | spiff is a really sore loser |
| 23:06:41 | sussudio | i "accidently" shot him |
| 23:06:42 | sussudio | yeah, right. |
| 23:09:45 | doughecka | testing! |
| 23:14:11 | Patlabor221 | wow I forgot how much timing info is in side animated models |
| 23:16:41 | Patlabor221 | doug you know you would not have to make all those boxes for the XL maps |
| 23:16:59 | doughecka | oh? |
| 23:17:09 | doughecka | how does it work? |
| 23:17:29 | doughecka | if its just text... its gonna be SLICK! |
| 23:17:30 | Patlabor221 | did you notice the extra info that was there for each entity? |
| 23:17:33 | doughecka | yea |
| 23:17:37 | doughecka | I seen it |
| 23:17:57 | Patlabor221 | what did it let you specify on a per ent bassis? |
| 23:18:13 | Patlabor221 | and yes you could make a Text class |
| 23:18:20 | Patlabor221 | and make it be just text |
| 23:18:31 | doughecka | and it would be text in the world? |
| 23:18:33 | Patlabor221 | ent and factory realy |
| 23:18:41 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 23:18:50 | doughecka | slick!!!! |
| 23:18:54 | Patlabor221 | if that's what you made the ent do |
| 23:19:07 | doughecka | #Teleporter: // # then the class name |
| 23:19:08 | doughecka | Pos: -50 0 0 |
| 23:19:08 | doughecka | Rot: 90 |
| 23:19:08 | doughecka | Scale: 0.1 5 25 |
| 23:19:08 | doughecka | Frame: 0.25 |
| 23:19:08 | doughecka | Texture: data/Textures/world/caution |
| 23:19:09 | doughecka | #End |
| 23:19:13 | Patlabor221 | each ent class can specify it's own method of drawing |
| 23:19:19 | doughecka | yea... |
| 23:19:24 | doughecka | frame? |
| 23:19:28 | Patlabor221 | or you could just replace the texture on a box |
| 23:19:28 | doughecka | frame = ? |
| 23:19:32 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:19:37 | Patlabor221 | what used to be called "border" |
| 23:19:59 | doughecka | ah, ok |
| 23:20:00 | Patlabor221 | tho in XL a Teleporter dosn't realy ever get drawn |
| 23:20:05 | doughecka | oh? |
| 23:20:15 | Patlabor221 | the ent called Teleporter is just a graphic thing |
| 23:20:23 | doughecka | ok |
| 23:20:25 | doughecka | #Box: // # then the class name |
| 23:20:25 | doughecka | Pos: 30 0 0 |
| 23:20:25 | doughecka | Rot: 45 |
| 23:20:25 | doughecka | Scale: 7 5 10 |
| 23:20:25 | doughecka | TextureScale: 5 |
| 23:20:25 | doughecka | Texture: data/Textures/default |
| 23:20:27 | doughecka | Texture: data/Textures/World/roof |
| 23:20:29 | doughecka | #End |
| 23:20:31 | Patlabor221 | the real thing that ports goes from one volume to another. |
| 23:20:56 | doughecka | I see |
| 23:21:14 | Patlabor221 | tho I need to add a way to have one ent use the positoon of another ent as it's basis |
| 23:21:26 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:21:44 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:21:53 | doughecka | do ya think 600+ boxes are too many? |
| 23:21:59 | Patlabor221 | in what? |
| 23:22:02 | Patlabor221 | in BZ? |
| 23:22:05 | doughecka | for a map |
| 23:22:07 | doughecka | yea |
| 23:22:12 | Patlabor221 | I think it depends on your CPU |
| 23:22:14 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:22:17 | Patlabor221 | not your vid card |
| 23:22:34 | doughecka | labels it "Gerbils alphabet" |
| 23:22:48 | Patlabor221 | I think the slowdown is when it tries to process the entire list of boxes |
| 23:23:05 | Patlabor221 | hmmmmm |
| 23:23:08 | Patlabor221 | wonders |
| 23:23:29 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: how does your grouping look in the BZmap file? |
| 23:24:35 | Patlabor221 | ponders a client only change that would allow a form of group culling. and still work on older servers/ clients. if..... |
| 23:25:02 | Patlabor221 | when a map is sent to the clients does it send the comments too? |
| 23:25:45 | doughecka | dunno |
| 23:25:59 | Patlabor221 | if they are |
| 23:26:13 | Patlabor221 | then the client could keep a tree of nested bounding spheres |
| 23:26:15 | doughecka | how hard would it be to make a program to rip whole worlds off of a server? |
| 23:26:20 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:26:27 | Patlabor221 | what do you mean? |
| 23:26:36 | Patlabor221 | bz can save the current world |
| 23:26:42 | doughecka | like it would connect and save the world file to the disk |
| 23:26:45 | doughecka | how? |
| 23:26:51 | doughecka | 1.7 can? |
| 23:26:52 | Patlabor221 | and this would only work if the map maker used groups |
| 23:27:01 | doughecka | true... |
| 23:27:12 | doughecka | groups that are included in... bzedit32? |
| 23:27:14 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:27:16 | Patlabor221 | then the groups could be used to quicly cull non visible ojbects |
| 23:27:21 | Patlabor221 | no cap has groups |
| 23:27:28 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:27:53 | Patlabor221 | I am thinking of using the group info to help with visibility |
| 23:28:06 | Patlabor221 | then you could put 1000 boxes in your name |
| 23:28:19 | doughecka | yea, and it would only load the ones needed? |
| 23:28:26 | Patlabor221 | and as long as the group was not visible it wouldn't have to process them |
| 23:28:31 | Patlabor221 | well it loads them all into mem |
| 23:28:55 | Patlabor221 | it just would not have to see if they are visible, or draw them |
| 23:29:14 | Patlabor221 | but I'll bet comments aren't sent |
| 23:29:51 | Patlabor221 | I think the slowdown that people get on large object worlds is not the drawing or loading of them |
| 23:29:58 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:30:02 | Patlabor221 | but just the walking of the list to see what is visible. |
| 23:30:07 | doughecka | yea |
| 23:30:24 | doughecka | considers a server/client upgrade that will send comments |
| 23:30:40 | Patlabor221 | that would be bad |
| 23:30:47 | doughecka | y? |
| 23:30:56 | Patlabor221 | it would 1 require a server update |
| 23:31:01 | doughecka | yea... |
| 23:31:10 | Patlabor221 | 2 it would send comments to old clients |
| 23:31:15 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:31:24 | doughecka | the server could ne "smart" |
| 23:31:25 | Patlabor221 | and if it's gonna send comments |
| 23:31:33 | Patlabor221 | why not make it send real data |
| 23:31:40 | doughecka | and only send it to "gerbil proof" clients |
| 23:31:42 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:31:44 | Patlabor221 | still requires a server update |
| 23:31:47 | doughecka | yea.. |
| 23:31:51 | doughecka | thats not too hard |
| 23:31:52 | Patlabor221 | if it could be done with just a client |
| 23:31:53 | doughecka | :Z |
| 23:32:03 | Patlabor221 | geting all the servers to update is |
| 23:32:22 | Patlabor221 | there is a definate advantage to client only |
| 23:32:33 | doughecka | yea |
| 23:32:45 | doughecka | we need to find out if the server sends the comments |
| 23:32:58 | Patlabor221 | cap or bzflag would know |
| 23:33:04 | Patlabor221 | I don't have code here |
| 23:33:05 | doughecka | how easy would it be to make a program that would save the worlds lokaly |
| 23:33:09 | doughecka | on the disk |
| 23:33:16 | Patlabor221 | I think bz does that |
| 23:33:20 | doughecka | how? |
| 23:33:24 | Patlabor221 | it's command when you are in game |
| 23:33:29 | doughecka | theres a patch... |
| 23:33:30 | doughecka | oh? |
| 23:33:31 | Patlabor221 | I think |
| 23:33:35 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: no, its not |
| 23:33:37 | doughecka | theres a patch that does it |
| 23:33:46 | Patlabor221 | well it should be :) |
| 23:33:49 | doughecka | yea! |
| 23:33:56 | Patlabor221 | does the server send map comments to the client? |
| 23:34:16 | captain_proton | in 1.8 if you use a special compile option it'll print out the xml for the geometry |
| 23:34:18 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: nope |
| 23:34:25 | captain_proton | it sends the world in a binary format |
| 23:34:55 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: suxor |
| 23:34:56 | doughecka | bah |
| 23:34:57 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: I wanted to use your group method to help with visiblitiy. |
| 23:34:57 | doughecka | still wants a proggy that will save server files |
| 23:35:01 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 23:35:03 | doughecka | captain_proton:? |
| 23:35:09 | Patlabor221 | ent data only then |
| 23:35:23 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:35:43 | Patlabor221 | doug make one. |
| 23:36:03 | captain_proton | it wouldn't be too hard |
| 23:36:21 | doughecka | so it theres no way of saving the map on the drive? |
| 23:36:21 | Patlabor221 | should be an easy change to the client |
| 23:36:21 | Patlabor221 | doug never said that |
| 23:36:23 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:36:23 | Patlabor221 | just that it dosn't send comments |
| 23:36:23 | Patlabor221 | would be rather easy I think |
| 23:36:28 | Patlabor221 | just walk the ent list after it's loaded and dump em |
| 23:36:51 | Patlabor221 | client has all the info |
| 23:36:52 | doughecka | ? |
| 23:37:02 | Patlabor221 | just walk the list |
| 23:37:04 | doughecka | is getting confused |
| 23:37:07 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i don't have a map file format for groups yet, stagnating on defining the objects |
| 23:37:15 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:37:18 | captain_proton | i'm thinking of using an xml format internally then 'export' to bz-map |
| 23:37:24 | Patlabor221 | well you were gonna put them in a comment right? |
| 23:37:25 | doughecka | mabbe I need ot learn C++ first, no? |
| 23:37:33 | doughecka | captain_proton: ick |
| 23:37:44 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: thats a huge kludge :P |
| 23:37:53 | Patlabor221 | doughecka: a list is not C or C++ specific |
| 23:37:58 | doughecka | ? |
| 23:39:04 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: and yours reqires 2 files |
| 23:39:10 | Patlabor221 | a source and a map |
| 23:39:54 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: it would, yes |
| 23:40:00 | captain_proton | if i had it save stuff at all :) |
| 23:40:28 | doughecka | hah |
| 23:41:01 | Patlabor221 | you could make it be a server in itself |
| 23:41:19 | captain_proton | patch 1.7 to read in the xml-format? :) |
| 23:41:50 | doughecka | but the XML editor could be 1.8 native, and export to 1.7 format |
| 23:41:53 | Patlabor221 | why bother |
| 23:42:16 | Patlabor221 | why not jsut wait for 1.8 |
| 23:42:16 | doughecka | the bzeditor uses 1.8 XML, while it can export to 1.7 |
| 23:42:27 | doughecka | bzflag 1k5 you mean? |
| 23:42:29 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:42:44 | captain_proton | doughecka: uhm |
| 23:42:44 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 23:42:51 | captain_proton | the 1.8 xml format isn't viable for 1.7 worlds |
| 23:42:58 | doughecka | oh? |
| 23:43:05 | captain_proton | just because its 'xml' doesn't mean its compatible |
| 23:43:10 | doughecka | yea |
| 23:43:16 | Patlabor221 | yeah just means it's UGLY |
| 23:43:22 | captain_proton | hands doughecka a cluestick to beat himself with |
| 23:43:29 | Patlabor221 | you could use the XL format :) |
| 23:43:33 | doughecka | but the export to 1.7 could rewrite the whole world into 1.7 |
| 23:43:40 | doughecka | Patlabor221: hehe |
| 23:43:49 | captain_proton | doughecka: 1.8 worlds won't look anything farking like 1.7 worlds |
| 23:43:56 | captain_proton | how do you suggest we translate it? |
| 23:44:02 | Patlabor221 | arbitary geo an dall |
| 23:44:14 | doughecka | hmm |
| 23:44:16 | doughecka | dont know man |
| 23:44:19 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:44:32 | Patlabor221 | 1.8 worlds are going to take a lot longer to make too |
| 23:44:38 | doughecka | watches debian finish installing |
| 23:44:40 | Patlabor221 | at least to make them right |
| 23:44:41 | doughecka | Patlabor221: why? |
| 23:44:51 | Patlabor221 | lot more to define. |
| 23:44:57 | Patlabor221 | more power |
| 23:44:58 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:45:04 | Patlabor221 | more responsibility |
| 23:45:08 | doughecka | hehe |
| 23:45:11 | Patlabor221 | the editor can make it easyer |
| 23:45:15 | doughecka | alot |
| 23:45:27 | Patlabor221 | but if you did one of each by hand. |
| 23:45:36 | doughecka | ick |
| 23:45:51 | Patlabor221 | thre are just more options avalabe in 1.8 |
| 23:46:01 | Patlabor221 | and there is the arbitrary geo thing |
| 23:46:09 | Patlabor221 | and regons. |
| 23:46:17 | doughecka | the editor could even change settings for all the items and stuff... |
| 23:46:18 | doughecka | ? |
| 23:46:22 | doughecka | arbitrary geo thing? |
| 23:46:37 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: were you planing on providing some defalut objects with the 1.8 editor? |
| 23:46:42 | doughecka | wonders what all this STUFF debian is installing |
| 23:46:53 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: probably |
| 23:46:59 | Patlabor221 | doug in 1.8 there are no "boxes" |
| 23:47:03 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:47:09 | doughecka | there are arbitrary geo things |
| 23:47:16 | Patlabor221 | cap you would have to, or each world develoepr would have to make there own |
| 23:47:22 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 23:47:28 | doughecka | ooooh |
| 23:47:29 | doughecka | I see |
| 23:47:29 | captain_proton | it'd probably make sense to have an online 'library' |
| 23:47:30 | Patlabor221 | then world would look like crap |
| 23:47:37 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:47:48 | Patlabor221 | sets of "prefabs" |
| 23:47:51 | doughecka | so we could have sphears? |
| 23:47:57 | doughecka | and circles? |
| 23:47:58 | Patlabor221 | anything you want |
| 23:48:00 | doughecka | and!! |
| 23:48:01 | doughecka | WOOOO |
| 23:48:02 | Patlabor221 | you draw it |
| 23:48:07 | doughecka | grins |
| 23:48:12 | Patlabor221 | you define a coliron regon ofr it |
| 23:48:18 | doughecka | ah |
| 23:48:19 | Patlabor221 | you add it to the map |
| 23:48:21 | Patlabor221 | and there you go |
| 23:48:39 | captain_proton | if it ever happens |
| 23:48:58 | captain_proton | ponders ripping a new one |
| 23:48:59 | doughecka | captain_proton: humph |
| 23:49:17 | doughecka | ponders... |
| 23:50:23 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 23:50:23 | [TeA] | ibot ducati |
| 23:50:35 | [TeA] | huhu |
| 23:50:40 | Patlabor221 | captain_proton: got gas? |
| 23:51:00 | Patlabor221 | is in the process of ripping something a new one. |
| 23:51:04 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: ripping bzflag a new one |
| 23:51:14 | Patlabor221 | you mean XL :) |
| 23:51:42 | captain_proton | hmm you have mouse input to XL? |
| 23:51:47 | doughecka | sighs |
| 23:51:58 | Patlabor221 | just haven't hooked it up |
| 23:52:01 | doughecka | that would be VERY cool... |
| 23:52:06 | Patlabor221 | but it's all there from SDL |
| 23:52:12 | Patlabor221 | doing the MOB list now |
| 23:52:12 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: hook it up! |
| 23:52:17 | captain_proton | then gimme to code to port |
| 23:52:18 | captain_proton | MOB? |
| 23:52:26 | Patlabor221 | I did give you code |
| 23:52:30 | captain_proton | the most recent |
| 23:52:31 | Patlabor221 | Mobile object. |
| 23:52:37 | Patlabor221 | aka stuff that's not world |
| 23:52:48 | Patlabor221 | things that are mortal |
| 23:53:19 | Patlabor221 | hence the need for models |
| 23:53:47 | Patlabor221 | my ftp, bzflagXL.zip |
| 23:53:55 | Patlabor221 | completely new souce base |
| 23:53:58 | Patlabor221 | all LGE based. |
| 23:54:15 | Patlabor221 | that could be its tagline |
| 23:54:24 | Patlabor221 | "comtains 0% bzflag code" |
| 23:54:24 | captain_proton | heh |
| 23:54:49 | captain_proton | eww 13kbps |
| 23:55:00 | Patlabor221 | ick |
| 23:55:06 | Patlabor221 | not like I can help it tho |
| 23:55:37 | doughecka | haha |
| 23:56:00 | Patlabor221 | there the CAnimModel class is all defined |
| 23:56:06 | captain_proton | ponders hookz0ring up the panel manager |
| 23:56:24 | Patlabor221 | let me get you the latest version of it |
| 23:56:29 | Patlabor221 | BZ currently doesn't use it |
| 23:56:32 | captain_proton | you have a new panel manager? |
| 23:56:40 | Patlabor221 | I worked on it some yes |
| 23:56:49 | captain_proton | whats new? |
| 23:57:08 | doughecka | added a "bright shiny" thing to it |
| 23:57:13 | Patlabor221 | no no |
| 23:57:28 | doughecka | snickers |
| 23:57:31 | Patlabor221 | made it do that it's posible to derive off pannels and put in your own message hooks |
| 23:57:39 | captain_proton | sweet |
| 23:57:46 | Patlabor221 | so that you can make it actualy change data and stuff |
| 23:57:56 | Patlabor221 | with our changing the base calsses |
| 23:58:20 | Patlabor221 | we need that font manager tho |
| 23:58:44 | captain_proton | yeah we do |
| 23:58:45 | captain_proton | :) |
| 23:58:52 | Patlabor221 | I also made it so the UI items are not hardcoded |
| 23:58:56 | Patlabor221 | they are registerd by name |
| 23:59:12 | captain_proton | we need to make a loadable format for panels too |
| 23:59:18 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 23:59:20 | doughecka | soooo, that vapor UT2BZW converter will convert to..... 1.8? |
| 23:59:22 | doughecka | :) |
| 23:59:23 | Patlabor221 | for everything |
| 23:59:53 | captain_proton | well, it'll convert to bzw unless Patlabor221 and i end up ripping XL :) |
