| 00:00:13 | SpacemanSpiff | I'll brb guys :-) |
| 00:05:53 | SpacemanSpiff | Okie.. sorry about that.. hehe :-) |
| 00:06:24 | SpacemanSpiff | I'm posting my CTF map on Jzaun.. you guys will have to check it out.. it's called Stealth CTF |
| 00:06:47 | Patlabor221 | is it crap? |
| 00:07:30 | SpacemanSpiff | LoL |
| 00:07:38 | SpacemanSpiff | That was rude, but no, it is not crap :P |
| 00:07:52 | Patlabor221 | I was just kidding |
| 00:08:05 | Patlabor221 | what the hell is the URL to his site? |
| 00:08:12 | SpacemanSpiff | LoL |
| 00:08:26 | SpacemanSpiff | Well... the world posting etc. stuff is at http |
| 00:08:40 | SpacemanSpiff | http:\\stats.bzflag.org |
| 00:08:53 | SpacemanSpiff | http://stats.bzflag.org |
| 00:08:57 | SpacemanSpiff | There.. hehe |
| 00:09:29 | Patlabor221 | I don't see it posted there |
| 00:10:02 | SpacemanSpiff | I just finished putting it up about two seconds ago... go to the "Worlds" page and it will be there.. download it and try it out on your pc if you like |
| 00:10:06 | Patlabor221 | I want to convert it to an XL map and see how it runs |
| 00:10:43 | Patlabor221 | LOL |
| 00:10:53 | Patlabor221 | he still has some work to do on his site coding |
| 00:11:06 | Patlabor221 | if you hit download, it sends you his PHP DL page |
| 00:11:20 | Patlabor221 | oh |
| 00:11:29 | Patlabor221 | it names the map dlmap.php |
| 00:11:31 | Patlabor221 | that's funny |
| 00:12:44 | SpacemanSpiff | Yeah... I had that problem when I downloaded a CTF map earlier trying to figure out how to make one.. hehe |
| 00:13:49 | Patlabor221 | well it seems decently fast with the fast sphere cull |
| 00:14:21 | Patlabor221 | seems very clutterd tho |
| 00:14:54 | SpacemanSpiff | Actually... it's supposed to be.... very much centered around the open spot in the middle.. like a funnel... and it will make capturing enemy flags really hard |
| 00:15:40 | Patlabor221 | needs some variation in the textures :) |
| 00:16:07 | Patlabor221 | if the map is imposible to win then where is the fun? |
| 00:17:06 | Patlabor221 | hmm that thing could benifit from some grouping culling |
| 00:17:25 | Patlabor221 | the large part in the middle would have to be a heirarchical cull |
| 00:25:50 | SpacemanSpiff | I'm lost |
| 00:25:54 | SpacemanSpiff | LoL |
| 00:27:15 | SpacemanSpiff | I have to get goin' guys.. dinner time |
| 00:27:24 | SpacemanSpiff | God bless you all... goodbye for now :o) |
| 00:28:02 | Patlabor221 | food is for the weak |
| 00:38:45 | captain_proton | damnit |
| 00:39:00 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 00:39:11 | captain_proton | i hate it when i can't tell if someone is cheating or not |
| 00:40:34 | captain_proton | just now it felt like someone had a faster turn and bullet speed, but i couldn't tell for sure |
| 00:41:24 | Patlabor221 | be nice if the server loged it |
| 00:41:27 | Patlabor221 | and you chould check |
| 00:43:08 | doughecka | yay |
| 00:43:08 | doughecka | is back |
| 00:46:10 | doughecka | is back from alabama |
| 00:46:19 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 00:46:22 | Patlabor221 | how was that? |
| 00:46:31 | doughecka | fun |
| 00:46:43 | doughecka | we had 50 bucks for the trip total |
| 00:46:46 | doughecka | woo |
| 00:49:20 | doughecka | is away: dinner |
| 01:06:39 | captain_proton | 50 bucks...what kind of trailer park do you live in? |
| 01:07:07 | Patlabor221 | a low end one is my guess |
| 01:07:22 | doughecka | snorts |
| 01:07:33 | Patlabor221 | sucks when you replace a + in the potharorean therom wiht a * |
| 01:11:09 | bzdougg | is away: mooooovie |
| 01:20:53 | bzdougg | SLICK! |
| 01:20:57 | bzdougg | http://developer.apple.com/samplecode/Sample_Code/QuickTime/Goodies/ASCIIMoviePlayerSample.htm |
| 01:21:01 | bzdougg | runs great too |
| 01:21:04 | MakingCrazyHardw | damn |
| 01:21:08 | bzdougg | hah |
| 01:21:23 | Patlabor221 | ohh my radar is supper thexy now |
| 01:21:36 | bzdougg | eh? |
| 01:21:48 | CrazyHardwarer | bzdougg: um, i've had that for about 3 years |
| 01:21:49 | Patlabor221 | tho sligly buggy |
| 01:22:04 | bzdougg | on OS X? |
| 01:22:10 | CrazyHardwarer | bzdougg: on linux |
| 01:22:14 | bzdougg | playes quicktime movies? |
| 01:22:17 | CrazyHardwarer | if i want |
| 01:22:18 | bzdougg | WITH sound? |
| 01:22:23 | CrazyHardwarer | plays any other type of movie too |
| 01:22:24 | bzdougg | snorts |
| 01:22:57 | CrazyHardwarer | Patlabor221: show me |
| 01:24:28 | Patlabor221 | havent built linux yet |
| 01:24:37 | Patlabor221 | got a windows machine round there anywhere? |
| 01:24:45 | bzdougg | I DO! |
| 01:24:51 | CrazyHardwarer | Patlabor221: nope, send code ;) |
| 01:24:54 | CrazyHardwarer | is this for 1.8? |
| 01:25:45 | Patlabor221 | pleads the 5th |
| 01:25:55 | bzdougg | lol |
| 01:26:12 | Patlabor221 | I know not if it will build on linux |
| 01:26:25 | CrazyHardwarer | i'll make it build |
| 01:26:45 | bzdougg | CrazyHardwarer will be very happy to fix it for you Patlabor221! |
| 01:27:01 | Patlabor221 | well it should be rather clean |
| 01:27:11 | Patlabor221 | I even used '/0' instead of NULL |
| 01:27:23 | bzdougg | lol |
| 01:27:29 | bzdougg | is away: mooooovie |
| 01:27:40 | CrazyHardwarer | Patlabor221: in character strings you mean? |
| 01:27:47 | Patlabor221 | oh I guess doug dosn't want to see BZFlag XL then |
| 01:27:48 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:27:51 | bzdougg | I do! |
| 01:28:01 | Patlabor221 | no no your away |
| 01:28:09 | bzdougg | is back: gone 5 seconds |
| 01:28:14 | bzdougg | I do! |
| 01:28:27 | Patlabor221 | cap my common FTP |
| 01:28:33 | Patlabor221 | there is a zip there |
| 01:28:38 | Patlabor221 | has the fixed LGE too |
| 01:28:38 | CrazyHardwarer | zip..ewe |
| 01:28:40 | bzdougg | is it binarys? |
| 01:28:47 | bzdougg | CrazyHardwarer: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/23/234209&mode=nested&tid=126 |
| 01:29:00 | Patlabor221 | well it's what I got on a right click |
| 01:29:06 | Patlabor221 | binarys? |
| 01:29:13 | Patlabor221 | binarys! |
| 01:29:18 | bzdougg | I want to see bzflag xl |
| 01:29:20 | bzdougg | :) |
| 01:29:26 | Patlabor221 | _test.zip in the FTP |
| 01:29:32 | Patlabor221 | windows release bin |
| 01:29:37 | Patlabor221 | tho you will need SDL |
| 01:29:39 | bzdougg | ok... |
| 01:29:44 | bzdougg | hmmm |
| 01:29:51 | CrazyHardwarer | Patlabor221: LGE is inside the BZFlagXL zip? |
| 01:29:57 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:30:02 | Patlabor221 | that is my entire project |
| 01:30:08 | CrazyHardwarer | is afraid |
| 01:30:13 | Patlabor221 | I haven't renamed the mngers to manager yes |
| 01:30:15 | Patlabor221 | yet |
| 01:30:17 | Patlabor221 | I must go now |
| 01:30:20 | Patlabor221 | but I will return |
| 01:30:21 | bzdougg | ooh |
| 01:30:23 | bzdougg | cya! |
| 01:30:25 | CrazyHardwarer | bzdougg: i'm not using serial ATA, i'm using scsi |
| 01:30:36 | bzdougg | CrazyHardwarer: yea, but I thought to might like to read it |
| 01:30:38 | bzdougg | anyway |
| 01:32:00 | CrazyHardwarer | serial ata is a good technology, but its still IDE, which means i'd still only be able to get 20 drives hooked up to a box |
| 01:32:12 | bzdougg | shrugs |
| 01:32:35 | bzdougg | I need SDL.dll |
| 01:33:46 | CrazyHardwarer | libsdl.org |
| 01:33:56 | bzdougg | COOL |
| 01:34:04 | bzdougg | radar looks good |
| 01:34:16 | bzdougg | how to jump? |
| 01:36:58 | bzdougg | slick |
| 01:37:06 | bzdougg | is away: moooovie |
| 01:42:52 | CrazyHardwarer | Segmentation fault. |
| 01:44:18 | megachirops | hello |
| 01:44:25 | bzdougg | olleh |
| 01:44:31 | bzdougg | shrugs |
| 01:44:37 | bzdougg | is away: mooooooooooooooooooooooooooovie |
| 01:44:47 | CrazyHardwarer | well, it compiles |
| 01:45:05 | megachirops | im new to bzflag, coud someone please tell me where i could obtain bots for the game? (i got winXP OS) |
| 01:45:21 | bzdougg | ask Chestal |
| 01:45:25 | bzdougg | hes the bot man |
| 01:45:27 | CrazyHardwarer | megachirops: there are some pretty stupid bots if you run with '-solo <n>' where n is a number |
| 01:45:29 | megachirops | ok |
| 01:45:37 | megachirops | thnx |
| 01:45:39 | CrazyHardwarer | chestal has a standalone bot program, but its a bit finicky to get working |
| 01:45:51 | bzdougg | but when it does, its very good |
| 01:46:31 | megachirops | ugh, he's away |
| 01:47:00 | CrazyHardwarer | he'll probably wake up in about 5-6 hours |
| 01:47:09 | bzdougg | hes in germany |
| 01:47:10 | megachirops | ok |
| 01:52:44 | bzdougg | nope, hes not back yet |
| 01:53:20 | megachirops | does chestal have a webpage with his bot program available for dl? |
| 01:53:25 | megachirops | lol |
| 01:53:34 | bzdougg | um |
| 01:53:37 | bzdougg | yea |
| 01:53:40 | bzdougg | I forget it |
| 01:53:50 | megachirops | oh, ok |
| 01:54:37 | CrazyHardwarer | megachirops: the problem is that its a source download, and unless you're reasonably good at patching a codebase and compiling it, its probably a lot more trouble than its worth |
| 01:55:03 | bzdougg | hmm |
| 01:55:10 | bzdougg | patlabor221 has a binary out |
| 01:55:13 | bzdougg | for win32 |
| 01:55:19 | bzdougg | but I dont know where that is |
| 01:55:24 | megachirops | ok |
| 01:55:28 | megachirops | i can search for it |
| 01:57:00 | bzdougg | heya dinah! |
| 01:57:10 | bzdougg | I am on ignore I see! |
| 01:57:16 | CrazyHardwarer | 'lo dinah |
| 01:57:29 | dinah | and you are? |
| 01:57:37 | CrazyHardwarer | proton, under the mask |
| 01:58:03 | dinah | ah i have certain reservations about people with altered names... |
| 01:58:15 | CrazyHardwarer | thats a bit of a generalization |
| 01:58:18 | megachirops | you're right, those bots do suck, well thanks for the help, i'll log on later tonight to see if chestal is around |
| 01:59:19 | dinah | cap, wtf is a classpath? |
| 01:59:46 | CrazyHardwarer | dinah: its for java - its like the PATH variable, except instead of pointing to where programs are it points to java classes |
| 02:00:16 | dinah | so if it cant initialize threads, i must do what? |
| 02:00:42 | CrazyHardwarer | you probably need to add the main java directory to your CLASSPATH |
| 02:00:57 | dinah | oh bother |
| 02:05:52 | dinah | why cant anything ever be simple? |
| 02:06:21 | CrazyHardwarer | some things are simple, java isn't one of them |
| 02:06:52 | dinah | then why wont people just code in something i can actually use? :( |
| 02:12:34 | dougg | heya Patlabor221 |
| 02:12:39 | Patlabor221 | 'lo |
| 02:13:57 | dougg | is away: movie, really, I am |
| 02:14:12 | Patlabor221 | sure he is |
| 02:14:20 | dougg | I am! |
| 02:14:30 | Patlabor221 | what movie? |
| 02:14:37 | CrazyHardwarer | debbie does dallas |
| 02:14:41 | dougg | murder on the orient express |
| 02:14:56 | Patlabor221 | I love it when debbie does that |
| 02:15:03 | Patlabor221 | get a ral movie |
| 02:15:07 | Patlabor221 | real movie |
| 02:15:10 | dougg | humph |
| 02:15:11 | Patlabor221 | like "tank girl" |
| 02:15:14 | dougg | shrugs |
| 02:15:15 | dougg | ick |
| 02:15:20 | dougg | is away: gone |
| 02:16:12 | Patlabor221 | cap: is that radar not cool? :) |
| 02:16:30 | CrazyHardwarer | Patlabor221: pretty cool |
| 02:16:34 | Noodleman | anybody talking interesting stuff in here? |
| 02:16:35 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 02:16:51 | Patlabor221 | I need to make the buildings at the edge alpah out like the walls do |
| 02:16:54 | Patlabor221 | yes we are |
| 02:17:41 | Patlabor221 | can cap, what are you crazy hardwareing? |
| 02:17:52 | CrazyHardwarer | Patlabor221: designing my array controller |
| 02:17:58 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 02:18:07 | Patlabor221 | how's that going for you? |
| 02:18:21 | CrazyHardwarer | pretty decent, found a distributor that has the chips i need |
| 02:18:35 | dinah | is thinking about the extream difficulty of java |
| 02:18:45 | Noodleman | is that some scsi or raid thing? |
| 02:18:56 | Patlabor221 | Java, evil |
| 02:18:58 | CrazyHardwarer | Noodleman: scsi, ide, raid, LVM, i'm using it all |
| 02:19:12 | Noodleman | is thinking about the extreme stupidity of java |
| 02:19:16 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:19:20 | Noodleman | cool :-) |
| 02:19:33 | dinah | they should call it "shit that doesnt ever work" |
| 02:19:38 | Noodleman | my employer actually kinda likes it |
| 02:19:50 | Patlabor221 | empolyers are dumb |
| 02:19:58 | dinah | is going to buy and dismantle SUN |
| 02:20:05 | Noodleman | he just doesn't like the lack of pointers and the slowness of bytecode |
| 02:20:14 | Patlabor221 | why does dinah need with java? |
| 02:20:24 | CrazyHardwarer | Patlabor221: she's trying to get java programs to run |
| 02:20:53 | Patlabor221 | oh |
| 02:20:54 | dinah | not anymore, im trying to wake up my solicitor and see about buying SUN |
| 02:21:02 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 02:21:07 | Patlabor221 | yes that is a pain in the butt |
| 02:21:10 | dinah | is utterly serious |
| 02:21:28 | Noodleman | how rich are you? |
| 02:21:51 | Patlabor221 | it's not the money, it's the power |
| 02:21:56 | dinah | quite |
| 02:22:09 | Noodleman | yeah, but you need both |
| 02:22:21 | dinah | oh? |
| 02:22:28 | Noodleman | if you have more money, you can substitute some of that for a lack of power :-) |
| 02:23:32 | dinah | decides SUN makes good hardware so shell only buy java |
| 02:23:36 | dinah | should be easier |
| 02:24:36 | Patlabor221 | wants to fly, but has no wings |
| 02:25:30 | dinah | for a human to fly the wingspan whould have to be in excess of 100 meters |
| 02:26:30 | Patlabor221 | asuming that the wings were the only thing to provide thrust |
| 02:26:55 | Patlabor221 | there are other ways to make thrust |
| 02:27:08 | dinah | Patlabor221 is perverted |
| 02:27:15 | Patlabor221 | nope |
| 02:27:27 | Patlabor221 | I was moslty thinking of hypergloics |
| 02:29:10 | Patlabor221 | or maybe something will come out of the gravity sheilding reserch |
| 02:29:52 | Patlabor221 | but then you would still have to deal with inertia.. hmmm |
| 02:30:06 | CrazyHardwarer | dinah: and whats wrong with a 150m wingspan? |
| 02:30:13 | dinah | that wont work, not unless we discover something akin to cold fusion |
| 02:30:29 | Patlabor221 | looks for a place to buy large amounts of coil wire |
| 02:30:37 | dinah | needs far to much power to function on currant tech... |
| 02:34:38 | CrazyHardwarer | Patlabor221: you have any more hack// music? |
| 02:35:03 | Patlabor221 | a me casa |
| 02:35:23 | Patlabor221 | it verys wildly in style tho |
| 02:41:34 | Patlabor221 | you want it all? |
| 02:41:54 | CrazyHardwarer | sure |
| 02:43:44 | Patlabor221 | I think I need to make a new map, the current one is silly |
| 04:54:04 | CrazyHardwarer | doobeedoo |
| 05:22:09 | BZFlag | http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?BZFlag |
| 05:22:45 | CrazyHardwarer | BZFlag: :) |
| 05:22:48 | BZFlag | ;-) |
| 05:49:07 | patlabor221 | zombies? |
| 05:49:20 | patlabor221 | only one way to deal with zombies |
| 05:52:00 | BZFlag | heh heh heh. another one gives in. ;-) |
| 05:52:22 | patlabor221 | looks for the spaz-12 |
| 05:53:18 | CrazyHardwarer | has collected more than BZFlag |
| 06:03:27 | BZFlag | heh |
| 06:13:38 | MrApathyCream | alil koth anyone? |
| 06:20:51 | | crs23 was last seen on #bzflag 107 days, 9 hours, 9 minutes and 38 seconds ago, saying: Widget: yes, just put the script in there. [Mon Jul 8 15:11:13 2002] |
| 06:20:51 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen crs23? |
| 06:30:13 | | captain_proton was last seen on #bzflag 214 days, 3 hours, 2 minutes and 45 seconds agao, saying: BZFlag: I'm not going to develop BZFlag anymore, sorry. |
| 06:30:13 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen_captain_proton? |
| 06:33:49 | patlabor221 | yeah he's making hardware now |
| 06:33:52 | patlabor221 | the freak |
| 06:38:49 | akira_ | moin |
| 06:39:43 | CrazyHardwarer | :) |
| 06:47:41 | MrApathyCream | mr wiggles coin-op? |
| 06:50:45 | patlabor221 | must sleep |
| 07:03:30 | CrazyHardwarer | WIGGLY! |
| 07:17:28 | BZFlag | and 45 seconds agao even |
| 07:17:36 | CrazyHardwarer | ? |
| 07:33:03 | | prodan is nothing but a left-over bucket of gleeking cat bladders. |
| 07:33:03 | Pinguin | ibot insult prodan |
| 07:33:07 | Pinguin | :-) |
| 07:33:17 | Pinguin | morning prodan :-) |
| 07:33:26 | akira_ | moin |
| 07:33:32 | akira_ | nimmt hier noch einer mutt? |
| 07:33:49 | Pinguin | pine + netscape |
| 07:49:44 | | somebody said Pinguin was playing with webcams |
| 07:49:44 | prodan | ibot Pinguin |
| 07:50:01 | | okay, prodan. |
| 07:50:01 | prodan | ibot, Pinguin is also a fan of Schlager |
| 07:50:07 | prodan | grins |
| 07:50:13 | | somebody said Pinguin was playing with webcams or a fan of Schlager |
| 07:50:13 | prodan | ibot Pinguin |
| 07:50:27 | prodan | moin Pinguin ;-) |
| 08:07:50 | bomber | moin |
| 08:34:59 | | Pinguin: I forgot pinguin |
| 08:34:59 | Pinguin | ibot: forget Pinguin |
| 08:38:24 | | i think prodan is interested in the existence of Nash Equilibria in games with compact action sets and discontinuous payoff functions or lazy |
| 08:38:24 | Pinguin | ibot prodan? |
| 08:38:54 | | okay, Pinguin. |
| 08:38:54 | Pinguin | ibot, prodan is also not knowing anything about the stuff he says ... |
| 08:38:59 | | i think prodan is interested in the existence of Nash Equilibria in games with compact action sets and discontinuous payoff functions or lazy or not knowing anything about the stuff he says ... |
| 08:38:59 | Pinguin | ibot prodan? |
| 08:39:05 | Pinguin | :-) ... |
| 08:41:28 | | OK, bomber. |
| 08:41:28 | bomber | ibot, Pinguin is hating prodan and bots inclusive ibot |
| 08:41:36 | | Pinguin is hating prodan and bots inclusive ibot |
| 08:41:36 | bomber | ibot Pinguin |
| 08:41:47 | | hmmm... bomber is a plane dropping explosives |
| 08:41:47 | Pinguin | ibot bomber? |
| 08:41:54 | bomber | haha |
| 08:42:05 | bomber | wie gehts |
| 08:42:13 | | okay, Pinguin. |
| 08:42:13 | Pinguin | ibot, bomber is also a mad scientist |
| 08:42:19 | | it has been said that bomber is a plane dropping explosives or a mad scientist |
| 08:42:19 | Pinguin | ibot bomber? |
| 08:42:24 | Pinguin | lol |
| 08:42:33 | Pinguin | gut, danke ... und selbst? |
| 08:42:41 | bomber | es geht |
| 08:42:50 | Pinguin | oha ... wo hängts? |
| 08:43:14 | bomber | sicherheitsbelehrung um 13:15 |
| 08:43:16 | bomber | :o( |
| 08:43:26 | Pinguin | grins |
| 08:43:30 | Pinguin | have fun ... |
| 08:43:36 | bomber | und wie ist redhat8 |
| 08:43:46 | Pinguin | brenne es gerade auf CD's ... |
| 08:43:55 | bomber | brenne 2x |
| 08:44:04 | bomber | lalala |
| 08:44:06 | Pinguin | Ms. Tutnix hat das CD-image als Datei!!! auf die CD gebrannt LOL |
| 08:44:49 | Pinguin | mache gerade schadensbegrenzung ... |
| 08:45:05 | bomber | grins |
| 08:45:36 | bomber | needs coffee |
| 08:45:42 | Pinguin | tin rechner hängt gerade mit 1.065GB Speichernutzung etwas ... |
| 08:47:16 | bomber | ist tin da? |
| 08:47:37 | Pinguin | nein ... |
| 08:47:54 | bomber | was machen schottky d |
| 08:48:37 | | bomber: I forgot bomber |
| 08:48:37 | bomber | ibot: forget bomber |
| 08:48:45 | Pinguin | am di abgegeben ... sind aber nicht gut! und nicht viele ... |
| 08:48:55 | bomber | hmmm |
| 08:50:21 | Pinguin | werde einen weiteren Batch machen ... |
| 08:50:32 | Pinguin | mit den neuen ESA Masken ... |
| 08:50:33 | bomber | besseren :o) |
| 08:50:51 | Pinguin | hoffentlich |
| 08:52:16 | | i heard prodan was interested in the existence of Nash Equilibria in games with compact action sets and discontinuous payoff functions or lazy or not knowing anything about the stuff he says ... |
| 08:52:16 | prodan | ibot prodan |
| 08:52:44 | Pinguin | :-) |
| 08:53:03 | prodan | actually i do know game theory well |
| 08:53:08 | | Pinguin is hating prodan and bots inclusive ibot |
| 08:53:08 | bomber | ibot Pinguin |
| 08:53:09 | prodan | unlike diodes |
| 08:53:26 | | okay, prodan. |
| 08:53:26 | prodan | ibot Pinguin is also a Mimose |
| 08:53:32 | prodan | ;-) |
| 08:53:32 | Pinguin | and you can take a joke ... can you? |
| 08:53:35 | bomber | :o)))))))) |
| 08:53:37 | prodan | no |
| 08:53:41 | prodan | not me |
| 08:53:47 | prodan | im easily insulted |
| 08:53:53 | prodan | ,-) |
| 08:54:13 | | pinguin is, like, hating prodan and bots inclusive ibot or a Mimose |
| 08:54:13 | prodan | ibot pinguin |
| 08:54:18 | prodan | hehe |
| 08:54:47 | prodan | bad schottky diodes? |
| 09:02:44 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 09:02:44 | prodan | ibot ducati |
| 09:02:45 | bzbot | trubi (R): 0 (0-0). |
| 09:06:19 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 09:06:19 | bomber | ibot ducati |
| 09:06:20 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 09:09:05 | | Pinguin, I didn't have anything matching 'me' |
| 09:09:05 | Pinguin | ibot forget me |
| 09:09:11 | | Pinguin: I forgot pinguin |
| 09:09:11 | Pinguin | ibot forget Pinguin |
| 09:11:30 | | bomber: I forgot ibot |
| 09:11:30 | bomber | ibot forget ibot |
| 09:11:35 | bomber | hehe |
| 09:11:45 | | bomber: what? |
| 09:11:45 | bomber | ibot ibot |
| 09:11:56 | | OK, prodan. |
| 09:11:56 | prodan | ibot ibot is ibot |
| 09:12:04 | | ibot is, like, ibot |
| 09:12:04 | bomber | ibot ibot |
| 09:12:12 | prodan | :-) |
| 09:12:21 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 09:12:21 | bomber | ibot ducati |
| 09:12:22 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 09:12:32 | | prodan: I forgot ibot |
| 09:12:32 | prodan | ibot forget ibot |
| 09:12:50 | | OK, prodan. |
| 09:12:50 | prodan | ibot ibot is almost but not quite completely unlike ibot |
| 09:13:06 | | okay, bomber. |
| 09:13:06 | bomber | ibot ibot is also Pinguin |
| 09:13:11 | | i am almost but not quite completely unlike ibot or Pinguin |
| 09:13:11 | bomber | ibot ibot |
| 09:13:19 | prodan | hehe |
| 09:13:24 | bomber | :o)))))))) |
| 09:13:44 | prodan | muss Pinguin im rahmen seiner arbeit schottky dioden produzieren? |
| 09:14:24 | bomber | frag Pinguin :o) |
| 09:14:35 | prodan | er hasst mich ;-) |
| 09:14:42 | bomber | neeee |
| 09:14:50 | bomber | warum? |
| 09:14:59 | | prodan: excuse me? |
| 09:14:59 | prodan | ibot Pinguin |
| 09:15:02 | prodan | aha |
| 09:15:15 | prodan | er hasst mich nicht mehr ;-) |
| 09:15:23 | bomber | haha |
| 09:15:43 | bomber | pinguin? |
| 09:15:58 | bomber | pinguin: hast du schon gebrannt |
| 09:16:13 | prodan | holt einen Feuerlöscher. |
| 09:16:47 | bomber | grins |
| 09:19:01 | bomber | is away |
| 09:30:33 | Pinguin | die erste CD ist fertig |
| 09:30:57 | Pinguin | fretig |
| 09:51:50 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 09:51:50 | bomber | ibot ducati |
| 09:51:51 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 10:27:33 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 10:27:33 | bomber | ibot ducati |
| 10:27:34 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 10:27:56 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 10:27:56 | Pinguin | ibot ducati |
| 10:27:57 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 10:28:52 | bomber | haha |
| 10:28:56 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 10:28:56 | bomber | ibot ducati |
| 10:28:57 | bzbot | Zorg (G): 0 (0-0). |
| 10:31:07 | Pinguin | bomber? |
| 10:31:18 | bomber | ja? |
| 10:31:27 | Pinguin | neuer Treiber ... |
| 10:31:36 | bomber | ist da |
| 10:31:45 | bomber | ? |
| 10:31:47 | Pinguin | http://www.ee.oulu.fi/~tuukkat/quickcam/quickcam.html |
| 10:31:55 | Pinguin | der letzte ist vom Oktober! |
| 10:32:51 | bomber | dann probieren wir ? |
| 10:33:16 | Pinguin | OK |
| 10:33:17 | bomber | ich habe aber nur 30min und unser Netzwerk spielt verueckt |
| 10:33:23 | Pinguin | läuft bei mir bereits .. |
| 10:33:29 | bomber | haha |
| 10:33:32 | bomber | her damit |
| 10:34:32 | Pinguin | nimm! |
| 10:34:50 | Pinguin | die übliche Änderungen im Makefile |
| 10:34:53 | bomber | danke anke |
| 10:35:36 | Pinguin | nicht der Rede Wert Gerd |
| 10:38:52 | Pinguin | wartet auf bomber |
| 10:40:04 | Pinguin | kriegt einen Bart |
| 10:41:29 | Pinguin | lässt seinen Bart bis zum Boden wachsen |
| 10:46:17 | Pinguin | 's Bart bedeckt den gesamten Boden |
| 10:46:55 | bomber | is confused |
| 10:47:25 | bomber | alles ok nur funktioniert bei mir nicht richtig |
| 10:48:38 | Pinguin | was fehlt? |
| 10:50:19 | Pinguin | fehlt nix? |
| 10:52:55 | bomber | ok keine zeit jetzt |
| 10:52:55 | bomber | cu later |
| 10:53:28 | Pinguin | grmpf |
| 13:49:28 | bzgirl | hello |
| 13:50:01 | Chestal | hi Angie |
| 13:50:18 | bzgirl | hey Chestal |
| 14:22:41 | doughecka | woo |
| 14:23:23 | doughecka | Microsoft Corp. is losing the president of its powerful US subsidiary, who also serves as vice president of the company's operations in U.S.A. |
| 14:31:07 | chsh[] | ? |
| 14:31:18 | doughecka | gates resigned |
| 14:32:14 | chsh[] | hahaha |
| 14:32:17 | chsh[] | good for him |
| 14:32:23 | chsh[] | get out before the ship sinks entirely |
| 14:32:49 | doughecka | lol |
| 14:32:53 | doughecka | I was kidding |
| 14:33:52 | | ACTION pukes over doughecka |
| 14:33:52 | doughecka | ibot puke |
| 14:33:55 | doughecka | ick |
| 14:34:16 | doughecka | is away: reading |
| 15:06:26 | Pinguin | Uff ... network was down ... |
| 15:24:45 | akira_ | re |
| 15:25:27 | bomber | brb |
| 15:33:21 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:33:21 | bomber | ibot ducati |
| 15:33:23 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 15:34:26 | akira_ | tja |
| 15:34:32 | bomber | tja |
| 15:34:46 | sussudio | dinah, are you here? |
| 15:35:28 | bomber | bye...have to go |
| 16:24:06 | dinah | no |
| 16:24:35 | sussudio | ok |
| 16:24:44 | dinah | why? |
| 16:24:59 | sussudio | to show a bz map |
| 16:25:13 | dinah | if my bzclient worked id look |
| 16:25:30 | sussudio | why doesnt it work |
| 16:25:38 | dinah | if i knew id fix it |
| 16:25:51 | sussudio | :-P |
| 16:26:17 | sussudio | pats his windows-keys-less keyboards |
| 16:26:33 | sussudio | cant seem to be able to buy new ones without the damn things |
| 16:26:35 | dinah | pats her unix keyboard |
| 16:26:49 | dinah | =P |
| 16:27:09 | sussudio | and to think people were throwing these away |
| 16:28:38 | Pinguin | these keys can be replaced by little penguins ... www.fms-computer.com |
| 16:29:07 | sussudio | i dont want anything there..... gets in the way of my alt keys |
| 16:30:30 | dinah | posts a pic of her old keyboard www.artemisgames.com/dinah/IMG_0415.JPG |
| 16:31:22 | dinah | thinks its a bit fuzzy www.artemisgames.com/dinah/IMG_0416.JPG <- this ones better |
| 16:31:38 | sussudio | bleh |
| 16:31:45 | sussudio | they made the ctrl and alt smaller |
| 16:32:18 | dinah | sorta misses her old keyboard |
| 16:33:38 | bzdougggg | chuckles |
| 16:34:41 | sussudio | http://home.wanadoo.nl/sussudio/cam.jpg |
| 16:34:46 | dinah | notifies the american goverment that bzdougggg drives a white van |
| 16:34:46 | sussudio | ^ un-evil keyboard |
| 16:35:40 | dinah | i want a keyboard like from an apple with all the extra unix buttons |
| 16:36:01 | sussudio | i have a wang keyboard with 30 f-keys somewhere :-| |
| 16:36:14 | bzdougggg | ? |
| 16:36:18 | bzdougggg | white van? |
| 16:36:20 | dinah | percy has an old wang moniter |
| 16:36:21 | bzdougggg | hah |
| 16:36:49 | sussudio | i have a wang 486-66 fileserver |
| 16:36:54 | sussudio | EISA BABY YEAH |
| 16:36:58 | bzdougggg | lol |
| 16:37:10 | sussudio | it's f*cking heavy |
| 16:37:14 | Patlabor221 | my files server is better |
| 16:37:20 | sussudio | no plastic on that case anywhere |
| 16:37:25 | Patlabor221 | it's a 486 with a P80 ODP |
| 16:37:27 | dinah | wants a "wang" t-shirt |
| 16:37:48 | bzdougggg | hey Patlabor221! |
| 16:37:55 | sussudio | the harddisks in it are kinda ass-slow...... |
| 16:38:03 | sussudio | full height 660MB scsi hp drives |
| 16:38:11 | sussudio | they'll probably outlive all my other hd's though |
| 16:38:19 | Patlabor221 | dinah: http://www.game-skins.com/gspa001.shtml |
| 16:38:19 | dinah | whats the bigest HD i could buy? |
| 16:38:26 | sussudio | 240 i think |
| 16:38:29 | Patlabor221 | one wang T-shirt |
| 16:38:46 | Patlabor221 | dinah IDE or SCSI? |
| 16:38:48 | dinah | thats a bit icky for a girl... |
| 16:38:53 | Patlabor221 | that is is |
| 16:39:02 | sussudio | i have to mention 240GB is about 2x more expensive than 4x80GB |
| 16:39:06 | dinah | maybe the wang-fu one |
| 16:39:11 | bzdougggg | hehe |
| 16:39:17 | Patlabor221 | perhaps that would be better |
| 16:39:29 | Patlabor221 | I like the "shut your pie hole" one |
| 16:39:39 | sussudio | wang and percy are both slang for "weiner" |
| 16:39:55 | dinah | well i have room for 4 primary ide drives... |
| 16:40:13 | dinah | well at least his names not roger |
| 16:40:21 | Patlabor221 | for anything over a 136 gig drive you will have to get a new IDE card |
| 16:40:32 | dinah | why? |
| 16:40:36 | Patlabor221 | one that supports 48 bit adresing |
| 16:40:55 | sussudio | 80's or 100's are cheaper anyway |
| 16:41:04 | sussudio | 120 will be too shortly |
| 16:41:05 | dinah | but my motherboard already has 4 ide ports, wont that work? |
| 16:41:07 | Patlabor221 | origonal 24 bit IDE only supports up 136 gig |
| 16:41:17 | Patlabor221 | its the same Motherboard you have allways had? |
| 16:41:25 | dinah | wel yes |
| 16:41:27 | Patlabor221 | the Abit? |
| 16:41:32 | sussudio | i think 120GB disks are about the same price as 80 was 6 months ago |
| 16:41:33 | Patlabor221 | no it only suports ATA 100 mode 4 |
| 16:41:37 | dinah | ASUS |
| 16:41:39 | Patlabor221 | you need mode 6 |
| 16:41:43 | Patlabor221 | yeah similar |
| 16:41:57 | sussudio | i got a 80 6 months ago :-B |
| 16:42:04 | Patlabor221 | western digital sells a 200 wtih the card |
| 16:42:07 | dinah | buys a sun workstation with 17 scsi ports |
| 16:42:17 | Patlabor221 | that'll work |
| 16:42:27 | bzdougggg | heh |
| 16:42:39 | Patlabor221 | the 200 is called "Drivezilla" |
| 16:42:52 | dinah | what about a QVC? |
| 16:42:53 | Patlabor221 | I don't think they have IDE 240's yet |
| 16:43:00 | Patlabor221 | http://www.westerndigital.com/products/products.asp?driveid=35 |
| 16:43:05 | sussudio | firebrands doug with his quantum grand prix |
| 16:43:07 | Patlabor221 | a what? |
| 16:43:28 | dinah | i dont know i heard someone mention it once, context lead me to believe it was big |
| 16:43:38 | chsh[] | Patlabor221> actually, Drivezilla is a whole line, not just one drive |
| 16:43:49 | sussudio | this harddisk comes with cooling fins ON the drive |
| 16:43:54 | Patlabor221 | is it? they just show the 200 when you click it |
| 16:44:03 | chsh[] | I think it encompasses everything from 120+ GB drives... |
| 16:44:35 | Patlabor221 | the only thing I know QVC as is the Quality Value channel. |
| 16:44:57 | chsh[] | sorry, I stand corrected |
| 16:44:58 | bzdougggg | hmmm |
| 16:45:07 | chsh[] | Drivezilla is the 200GB drive of the Caviar line |
| 16:45:07 | bzdougggg | wouldnt mind a 200 giger |
| 16:45:15 | chsh[] | if you get a drive that big |
| 16:45:18 | sussudio | i have a 200mber somewhere |
| 16:45:20 | Patlabor221 | maybe it means Quantum Valve something |
| 16:45:24 | chsh[] | you need another one and an IDE RAID1 setup |
| 16:45:32 | chsh[] | otherwise it's WAY too easy to lose all that data |
| 16:45:37 | Patlabor221 | bah at raid |
| 16:45:39 | Patlabor221 | LVM |
| 16:45:53 | chsh[] | raid? |
| 16:46:10 | dinah | software or hardware raid? |
| 16:46:11 | chsh[] | hardware raid is better than software mirroring |
| 16:46:21 | chsh[] | dinah> hardware, ew. Don't touch software raid |
| 16:46:27 | Patlabor221 | 200 seems to be the largest anyone is selling. |
| 16:46:35 | sussudio | i think the scsi controller that in the wang server does raid |
| 16:46:35 | Patlabor221 | LVM |
| 16:46:36 | chsh[] | Patlabor221> you need more? lol |
| 16:46:43 | chsh[] | LVM? |
| 16:46:48 | Patlabor221 | hey I could fill it |
| 16:46:55 | chsh[] | Patlabor221> so could I... |
| 16:46:58 | Patlabor221 | Logical Volumem maping |
| 16:46:59 | dinah | i want like a 2400GB drive... |
| 16:47:03 | Patlabor221 | can do what raid does |
| 16:47:16 | Patlabor221 | but the drives don't have to match in size |
| 16:47:26 | Patlabor221 | and you can add disks at will |
| 16:47:36 | sussudio | wheaton? |
| 16:47:40 | dinah | wonders if she can use a server as her local hd |
| 16:47:51 | Patlabor221 | there are ways to boot to net |
| 16:47:58 | Patlabor221 | so it would be posible |
| 16:48:10 | dinah | tells percy to plant a disk farm |
| 16:48:17 | chsh[] | Patlabor221> what kind of raid? |
| 16:48:24 | Patlabor221 | it's not raid |
| 16:48:28 | Patlabor221 | not hardware |
| 16:48:36 | Patlabor221 | OS does it |
| 16:48:40 | chsh[] | Patlabor221> You couldn't do LVM to achieve a RAID 1, could you? |
| 16:48:53 | Patlabor221 | I think you can have parts of it be a raid |
| 16:48:56 | chsh[] | how do you back up a partition that is 40GB in size to a 20GB disk? |
| 16:49:20 | Patlabor221 | if you want redundancy then you have to have doube the space |
| 16:49:22 | chsh[] | Patlabor221> You say it can do everything raid can, well, what kinds of raid? There are a lot of various types of RAID capabilities... |
| 16:49:23 | Patlabor221 | but it'll do it |
| 16:49:46 | Patlabor221 | well cap said it would do what raid did |
| 16:49:52 | chsh[] | but what? |
| 16:50:02 | Patlabor221 | I've only used it for spanning |
| 16:50:07 | Patlabor221 | never mirroring |
| 16:50:13 | captain_proton | chsh[]: LVM doesn't do mirroring |
| 16:50:14 | chsh[] | RAID 0, 1, 5, 10, 50? |
| 16:50:25 | chsh[] | cp> so it's like raid 0 then? |
| 16:50:31 | Patlabor221 | cap you said you that you were gonna mirror your thing on a LVM |
| 16:50:33 | Patlabor221 | how? |
| 16:50:42 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i'm going to RAID 1 pairs of drives |
| 16:50:43 | Patlabor221 | I like it for spaning |
| 16:50:46 | Patlabor221 | ahhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 16:50:49 | captain_proton | then use LVM for spanning |
| 16:50:56 | Patlabor221 | well then it's cool that it can work with the raid. |
| 16:50:58 | chsh[] | see that makes sense |
| 16:51:07 | chsh[] | they sound like they should be complementary technologies. ;) |
| 16:51:13 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 16:51:15 | captain_proton | yep, 'cause RAID is restricted in ways that i don't like |
| 16:51:22 | captain_proton | for instance, you can't add drives to a raid setup |
| 16:51:26 | chsh[] | CP> RAID0? |
| 16:51:44 | chsh[] | CP> essentially you're getting the results of RAID10 using only RAID1 + LVM? |
| 16:51:48 | chsh[] | makes sense |
| 16:52:07 | chsh[] | tho I have to ask how you get any performance benefits |
| 16:52:24 | captain_proton | LVM can stripe if setup correctly |
| 16:52:38 | chsh[] | cp> but if you add drives that makes no sense |
| 16:52:41 | captain_proton | i'm not sure if i'll use it or not. LVM1 can't add drives to a striped setup, LVM2 can but its -very- beta |
| 16:52:55 | chsh[] | otherwiise, it would take a long time to restripe the contents of the drive |
| 16:53:07 | chsh[] | yeah, it'd be tough |
| 16:53:17 | chsh[] | but nice if it could be done without destroying the existing data |
| 16:53:38 | captain_proton | it doesn't destroy it, i'm not sure how they do it, all i know is one of the developers told me it was possible now |
| 16:54:08 | chsh[] | cp> they probably pull a partition-magic style partition move in the background |
| 16:55:04 | chsh[] | so instead of every drive having AB-AB-AB-AB, it can be redone when you add a drive to AC-AB-AB-AB-AB |
| 16:55:11 | chsh[] | wrapping, as necessary |
| 16:55:19 | chsh[] | it's really just shifting the data over one stripe at a time |
| 16:55:32 | captain_proton | sounds reasonable |
| 16:55:35 | chsh[] | in theory, it should be simple, but in practice, it'd take a long time, and probably be really tricky. :) |
| 16:55:52 | chsh[] | or actually, I kinda had it wrong |
| 16:58:54 | chsh[] | AB-AB-AB-AB would become AB-AB-AB-AC-BC |
| 16:59:06 | chsh[] | draw it out on paper to get a better understanding. ;) |
| 16:59:26 | captain_proton | i don't think i'll mess with striping, i just care about space |
| 16:59:31 | chsh[] | :) |
| 16:59:42 | chsh[] | I'd love to do that on my box here |
| 16:59:56 | chsh[] | I have two drives, 1 40 1 20 |
| 17:00:13 | sussudio | i have like 20 drives |
| 17:00:22 | sussudio | probably adds up to about 3gb |
| 17:00:22 | chsh[] | I'd like to get a case that can handle like, 8 of them, but I don't have the money for it |
| 17:00:27 | chsh[] | sussudio> lol |
| 17:00:33 | chsh[] | sussudio> I have a bunch of old drives too |
| 17:00:52 | chsh[] | all told I've got ~100GB of drives in my house at home, 60 of it in my gaming/workstation machine. :) |
| 17:01:02 | chsh[] | 26 in my g/f's machine |
| 17:01:19 | chsh[] | and the rest in smaller drives (1GBs, 2GBs, 500MBs, etc.) |
| 17:01:51 | sussudio | my debian router has a 220mb |
| 17:02:00 | bzdougggg | woo |
| 17:02:05 | bzdougggg | 220 megs? |
| 17:02:06 | bzdougggg | wow |
| 17:02:07 | sussudio | 70mb free too |
| 17:02:18 | bzdougggg | impressive |
| 17:02:26 | sussudio | runs bzfs without any probs |
| 17:02:43 | bzdougggg | heh |
| 17:02:52 | doug_school | ah, better |
| 17:03:00 | chsh[] | my router has 2GB. ;) |
| 17:03:10 | chsh[] | not that it needs it, but it worked in the PII I had |
| 17:03:10 | sussudio | why |
| 17:03:19 | akira_ | ibot: bzflist |
| 17:03:20 | | akira_: 209.152.106.94:5164(1) bzflag.noodleroni.com:5155(6) ducati.bzflag.org:5156(8) turkey.moongroup.com:7500(17) chardonnay.math.bme.hu:5155(18) |
| 17:03:27 | sussudio | my routah is a compaq prolinea 466 |
| 17:03:41 | sussudio | i found it at the city dump |
| 17:03:42 | chsh[] | I don't have an M/FM controller for the 400MB drive I have |
| 17:03:49 | sussudio | it had been rained on for about a week |
| 17:03:58 | sussudio | let it dry out for a few days and it still worked |
| 17:03:58 | doug_school | haha |
| 17:04:07 | doug_school | cool |
| 17:04:09 | sussudio | i have MFM controllers........ like a box full of em |
| 17:04:18 | chsh[] | mail me one. :) |
| 17:04:21 | sussudio | RLL too |
| 17:04:23 | sussudio | weeeeee |
| 17:04:30 | doug_school | MFM? RLL? |
| 17:04:31 | chsh[] | RLL |
| 17:04:32 | chsh[] | lol |
| 17:04:36 | chsh[] | doug> old drive standards |
| 17:04:38 | doug_school | ah |
| 17:04:44 | sussudio | ESDI |
| 17:04:46 | doug_school | not IDE I suppose |
| 17:04:46 | sussudio | moo |
| 17:04:52 | chsh[] | doug> nobody uses IDE anymore today |
| 17:04:55 | chsh[] | it's all EIDE |
| 17:04:59 | sussudio | stupidass Core ESDI controller...... worked with nothing |
| 17:05:00 | doug_school | yea |
| 17:05:07 | chsh[] | sussudio> lol |
| 17:05:15 | sussudio | except the 40MB core drive |
| 17:05:25 | sussudio | the damn thing is like 6ms access time |
| 17:05:30 | chsh[] | ew |
| 17:05:48 | sussudio | faster than mostly anything else i have |
| 17:06:36 | m0nkey_b0y | mornin |
| 17:06:43 | sussudio | evenin |
| 17:07:29 | chsh[] | sussudio> wtf? 6ms is faster than a 7200RPM drive at 40GB? |
| 17:07:58 | sussudio | access time |
| 17:08:00 | doug_school | good afternoon |
| 17:08:02 | chsh[] | cp> LVM is a kernel module? |
| 17:08:32 | captain_proton | chsh[]: kernel patch (works as a module, i think), plus userland utilities for managing it all |
| 17:08:47 | chsh[] | cp> hmm, kewl. I've got a couple of spare drives, I might play with it. :) |
| 17:09:05 | chsh[] | cp> is it patched against the dev kernels, or 2.4.x? |
| 17:09:18 | captain_proton | chsh[]: both |
| 17:09:23 | chsh[] | ah |
| 17:09:41 | chsh[] | cp> can you explain to me why Upnp was adopted by Intel? |
| 17:10:08 | captain_proton | because the people at intel have good business sense |
| 17:10:42 | chsh[] | cp> UPnP is retarded, especially a lot of implementations of it I've seen (IE: MSN Messenger) |
| 17:10:55 | chsh[] | it's not very conducive to NAT'ed network environments |
| 17:11:01 | akira_ | hello proton |
| 17:11:02 | captain_proton | chsh[]: yeah, but its what microsoft does, so intel agrees |
| 17:11:11 | chsh[] | cp> yeah, rather unfortunately |
| 17:11:56 | chsh[] | UPnP goest totally against ALL sane NAT network programming practices... |
| 17:36:18 | sussudio | yawns |
| 17:41:10 | sussudio | want to try a map that doesnt suck Wilinckx |
| 17:41:34 | Wilinckx | how dou you mean? |
| 17:41:59 | sussudio | bzflag map |
| 17:42:18 | sussudio | did you shut down your server |
| 17:42:39 | Wilinckx | oh, I can run my server now |
| 17:42:50 | Wilinckx | but it isn't really a fast one... I can only serv 4 ppl |
| 17:42:57 | sussudio | k |
| 17:42:58 | Wilinckx | OK. which map? |
| 17:43:05 | sussudio | rock-n-barf 1.1 |
| 17:43:26 | Wilinckx | hm |
| 17:43:29 | sussudio | its an updated version of rock-n-barf |
| 17:43:30 | Wilinckx | "map not for download" |
| 17:43:36 | sussudio | uh huh. |
| 17:44:03 | Wilinckx | OK |
| 17:44:04 | sussudio | not for distribution........ |
| 17:44:07 | Wilinckx | ok |
| 17:44:13 | Wilinckx | I'll keep it secret |
| 17:44:22 | Wilinckx | hmm... can you say which flags etc? |
| 17:44:32 | Wilinckx | the command line options? |
| 17:44:53 | sussudio | umm -f BAD -f GM -f SW |
| 17:46:38 | sussudio | for flag switches that is |
| 17:48:18 | Wilinckx | uhm |
| 17:48:21 | Wilinckx | he say bad options... |
| 17:49:01 | sussudio | er? |
| 17:49:36 | Wilinckx | so... no flags? ok? |
| 17:49:53 | sussudio | all flags except bad gm sw |
| 17:50:03 | Wilinckx | ah. hmmm... |
| 17:50:16 | Wilinckx | -f BAD is not correct i think? |
| 17:50:34 | sussudio | let me see |
| 17:51:02 | Wilinckx | ah |
| 17:51:03 | Wilinckx | ic |
| 17:51:25 | Wilinckx | If I write it in normal (no capytal), he doesn't make problem: -f bad |
| 17:51:55 | Wilinckx | ah yes: and jumping |
| 17:52:26 | sussudio | /usr/games/bzfs -fb -j +r +s 30 -sa -ms 4 -st 1 -mp 4 -r -world rnb11.map -f bad -srvmsg "Welcome To Rock-n-Barf 1.1 by Sussudio" -public "Rock-n-Barf 1.1 by Sussudio" -publiclist http://bzflag.sourceforge.net/list-server.txt -publicaddr 212.239.205.234 |
| 17:55:48 | doug_school | ICK |
| 17:55:55 | doug_school | AOL? |
| 17:56:47 | sussudio | hm baaaaaad teleport |
| 18:03:07 | Wilinckx | shutted down the server |
| 18:03:24 | sussudio | k |
| 18:03:28 | Wilinckx | hm. I don't mean the computer, I mean the prog |
| 18:03:35 | Wilinckx | Say me when the bug is fixed :-) |
| 18:04:00 | Wilinckx | by the way, you can always try your maps on a local server withoud internet |
| 18:04:08 | sussudio | i know |
| 18:04:11 | Wilinckx | re-start with new map? |
| 18:04:22 | sussudio | umm use parameters |
| 18:04:37 | Wilinckx | -ms 7 :-) |
| 18:04:49 | Wilinckx | others? |
| 18:05:14 | sussudio | /usr/games/bzfs -fb -j +r +s 30 -sa -ms 4 -st 1 -mp 4 -r -world rnb11.map -f bad -srvmsg "Welcome To Rock-n-Barf 1.1 by Sussudio" -public "Rock-n-Barf 1.1 by Sussudio" -publiclist http://bzflag.sourceforge.net/list-server.txt -publicaddr 212.239.205.234 |
| 18:05:28 | sussudio | umm rnb11a.map |
| 18:05:46 | Wilinckx | ah yes |
| 18:05:59 | Wilinckx | by the way, that public list... i use ip forwarding to cantact the list server etc |
| 18:06:16 | sussudio | k |
| 18:09:31 | Wilinckx | uhm |
| 18:09:37 | Wilinckx | just a sec... |
| 18:09:37 | sussudio | hm? |
| 18:11:23 | Wilinckx | ok running |
| 18:11:25 | sussudio | k |
| 18:14:25 | sussudio | flaaaaaaags |
| 18:14:44 | Wilinckx | sry |
| 18:15:06 | sussudio | /usr/games/bzfs -fb -j +r +s 30 -sa -ms 4 -st 1 -mp 4 -r -world rnb11a.map -f bad -srvmsg "Welcome To Rock-n-Barf 1.1 by Sussudio" -public "Rock-n-Barf 1.1 by Sussudio" -publiclist http://bzflag.sourceforge.net/list-server.txt -publicaddr 212.239.205.234 |
| 18:23:50 | bzgirl | hello |
| 18:31:02 | sussudio | hmm |
| 18:31:07 | sussudio | everyone went [nr] |
| 18:31:22 | sussudio | segfault? |
| 18:33:03 | Wilinckx | i don't know |
| 18:33:13 | Wilinckx | ok, server running again |
| 18:33:20 | Wilinckx | (now requireudp) (faster) |
| 18:35:05 | Wilinckx_ | server running :-) |
| 18:37:31 | sussudio | searches for his lost videotape |
| 18:39:09 | Wilinckx_ | is compiling alsa for his kernel and hopes is soundcard will work... |
| 18:39:45 | sussudio | no chance |
| 18:39:50 | sussudio | alsa is evil |
| 18:39:57 | Wilinckx_ | haaaaa DMNED |
| 18:40:02 | Wilinckx_ | oops sry |
| 18:45:15 | Wilinckx | haa mrde |
| 18:45:27 | Wilinckx | ASSEMBLY 1 packets, 818 - 818 |
| 18:45:27 | Wilinckx | PUWRITE - ASSEMBLED UDP LEN 16 for Player 0 |
| 18:45:27 | Wilinckx | ENQUEUE 6 [819] |
| 18:45:27 | Wilinckx | ASSEMBLE |
| 18:45:27 | Wilinckx | ASSEMBLY 1 packets, 819 - 819 |
| 18:45:28 | Wilinckx | PUWRITE - ASSEMBLED UDP LEN 16 for Player 0 |
| 18:45:30 | Wilinckx | ENQUEUE 6 [820] |
| 18:45:32 | Wilinckx | [...] |
| 18:59:37 | sussudio | wha?" |
| 18:59:52 | Wilinckx_ | That's what he say when there is a problem... |
| 19:00:25 | Wilinckx_ | ttgtb |
| 19:00:27 | sussudio | boerenkoolmetworst time |
| 19:00:50 | Wilinckx | :-( |
| 19:00:54 | Wilinckx | I have to go to bet now... |
| 19:00:57 | Wilinckx | server down... :-( |
| 19:00:59 | Wilinckx | bye all |
| 19:12:10 | sussudio | what's a [5VrwoN90D |
| 19:16:00 | dinah | is it... http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail40.html ? |
| 19:53:24 | Patlabor221 | 's new radar is soooo kewl |
| 19:54:11 | m0nkey_b0y | you designed a new radar patlabor? |
| 19:54:19 | m0nkey_b0y | and hi all :) |
| 19:54:19 | Patlabor221 | testing |
| 19:54:29 | m0nkey_b0y | cool deal |
| 19:54:34 | Patlabor221 | testing new controol and interface ideas |
| 19:54:41 | Patlabor221 | it's round :) |
| 19:54:45 | m0nkey_b0y | wow |
| 19:54:57 | m0nkey_b0y | does it also show tank orientation? |
| 19:55:04 | m0nkey_b0y | of the other tanks i mean |
| 19:55:25 | Patlabor221 | well right now it dosn't show any tanks |
| 19:55:33 | m0nkey_b0y | hehe |
| 19:55:58 | Patlabor221 | I don't know if there would be enough room to show there vector but I will see |
| 19:56:28 | m0nkey_b0y | interesting |
| 19:57:17 | Patlabor221 | ftp://ftp.gibbscam.com/pub/outgoing/vizkit/facetest1.png |
| 19:58:19 | m0nkey_b0y | wiiiiiiccckkkkkeeeddddd |
| 20:02:04 | dougggg | hmm |
| 20:02:13 | dougggg | when will it have jumping? |
| 20:02:21 | m0nkey_b0y | i wonder what that will do for the "radar-only |
| 20:02:26 | m0nkey_b0y | i wonder what that will do for the "radar-only" types? |
| 20:02:33 | m0nkey_b0y | like me ;) |
| 20:02:39 | dougggg | heh |
| 20:03:00 | m0nkey_b0y | i had to patch mine with the mole patch... |
| 20:03:11 | dougggg | heh |
| 20:03:20 | Patlabor221 | what have jumping? |
| 20:03:23 | m0nkey_b0y | the new radar affected my eyes somehow |
| 20:03:47 | Patlabor221 | it's not radar only that people want |
| 20:03:48 | m0nkey_b0y | for using radar to shoot ricochet shots |
| 20:03:53 | Patlabor221 | it's a 2d client |
| 20:04:01 | dougggg | yea! |
| 20:04:09 | dougggg | one that will work on a 133 mhz laptop |
| 20:04:12 | m0nkey_b0y | i love the mountains |
| 20:04:22 | Patlabor221 | realy? |
| 20:04:28 | Patlabor221 | I think they suck |
| 20:04:28 | dougggg | me too |
| 20:04:29 | m0nkey_b0y | heh |
| 20:04:33 | Patlabor221 | not high enough red |
| 20:04:34 | m0nkey_b0y | well they have snow... |
| 20:04:35 | dougggg | diferent than bzflags |
| 20:04:37 | Patlabor221 | res |
| 20:04:43 | dougggg | yea |
| 20:04:47 | Patlabor221 | well that's cus they aren't from it |
| 20:05:09 | Patlabor221 | I don't know how to use teragen to make new ones yet |
| 20:05:43 | m0nkey_b0y | i have a background thats says "m0nkey_b0y" all over them |
| 20:05:46 | m0nkey_b0y | for bz |
| 20:06:03 | m0nkey_b0y | gerbil made a theme for me |
| 20:07:35 | m0nkey_b0y | your an engineer patlabor? |
| 20:08:08 | dougggg | haha |
| 20:08:13 | dougggg | engineer? |
| 20:08:19 | dougggg | rolls on the floor |
| 20:08:26 | m0nkey_b0y | what so funny? |
| 20:08:32 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 20:08:33 | captain_proton | haha |
| 20:08:37 | Patlabor221 | I m a what? |
| 20:08:40 | captain_proton | dowdy [to david]: ladder is in CAPP MR. It's not exactly OSHA compliant. You *might* be killed on it, but that's the danger with sysadmin'ing on a budget :-( |
| 20:08:46 | m0nkey_b0y | i was looking at company name.. |
| 20:08:54 | dougggg | lol |
| 20:08:55 | Patlabor221 | oh |
| 20:09:09 | Patlabor221 | hey it says that on my card that's kinda cool |
| 20:09:16 | dougggg | oh? |
| 20:09:17 | dougggg | slick |
| 20:09:21 | m0nkey_b0y | hey doug...what so funny about engineer's? |
| 20:09:45 | dougggg | just the idea of Patlabor221 being a engineer |
| 20:10:01 | m0nkey_b0y | never make fun of one's profession |
| 20:10:08 | m0nkey_b0y | regardless of what they do |
| 20:10:13 | dougggg | :) |
| 20:10:13 | Patlabor221 | a software engineer |
| 20:10:26 | dougggg | yea, but I was thinkin hardware |
| 20:10:29 | dougggg | space |
| 20:10:32 | dougggg | inventor |
| 20:10:34 | dougggg | etc |
| 20:10:41 | Patlabor221 | and who says I'm not? |
| 20:10:56 | bzgirl | engineers drive trains dont they? |
| 20:10:59 | dougggg | I didnt |
| 20:11:05 | dougggg | bzgirl: yes they do |
| 20:11:08 | Patlabor221 | have you built a fully flying aircraft? |
| 20:11:17 | dougggg | I could |
| 20:11:47 | Patlabor221 | done engine stress teting by straping it to a lightpole and running it up in the street? |
| 20:12:18 | dougggg | can you stall an automatic car? |
| 20:12:31 | Patlabor221 | if I try hard enoguh |
| 20:12:36 | dougggg | ah |
| 20:12:36 | Patlabor221 | I've seen it done |
| 20:12:39 | Patlabor221 | by idiots |
| 20:12:39 | dougggg | hehe |
| 20:12:44 | captain_proton | my sister did it once |
| 20:12:46 | dougggg | I have yet to do it |
| 20:12:50 | Patlabor221 | it can be done |
| 20:12:54 | dougggg | captain_proton: thats what I fed off of |
| 20:12:54 | dougggg | :) |
| 20:13:09 | captain_proton | its usually only possible if there's some design flaw in the engine |
| 20:13:09 | Patlabor221 | it'snot good for the torque converter tho |
| 20:13:21 | dougggg | heh |
| 20:13:32 | Patlabor221 | cap: rapid shifting into gears you arn't suposed to shift rapidly to |
| 20:13:42 | dougggg | hah |
| 20:14:10 | Patlabor221 | like D->1 on the freeway |
| 20:14:17 | dougggg | lol |
| 20:14:25 | Patlabor221 | then there is a whine and a snap |
| 20:14:37 | Patlabor221 | and perhaps some smoke |
| 20:14:52 | dougggg | my friend was driving a big 12 passenger van, and wondered what happens if you shift it into reverse |
| 20:15:00 | dougggg | grins |
| 20:15:19 | Patlabor221 | ohh. you don't know anyone who drives |
| 20:15:24 | dougggg | tranny was, um, toast |
| 20:15:28 | dougggg | I drive |
| 20:15:35 | m0nkey_b0y | bicycles? |
| 20:15:36 | dougggg | I drove my dads van down in atlanta |
| 20:15:41 | Patlabor221 | farm implements don't count |
| 20:15:43 | dougggg | on the highway |
| 20:15:44 | Patlabor221 | legaly? |
| 20:15:46 | dougggg | at 65 |
| 20:15:48 | dougggg | um |
| 20:15:51 | dougggg | no comment |
| 20:16:03 | Patlabor221 | when do you you become 15.5? |
| 20:16:13 | dougggg | um |
| 20:16:16 | | ACTION is an excellent driver |
| 20:16:16 | sussudio | ibot drive |
| 20:16:17 | m0nkey_b0y | supercharged tractor? |
| 20:16:19 | dougggg | it dont apply here |
| 20:16:25 | dougggg | you have to be 16 |
| 20:16:30 | dougggg | to get learners permit |
| 20:16:30 | Patlabor221 | no permits in kentuky? |
| 20:16:40 | sussudio | there's roads in kentucky? |
| 20:16:41 | Patlabor221 | what a bassakward state |
| 20:16:50 | dougggg | 16 permit, then 3 months to get lincesn |
| 20:16:55 | Patlabor221 | ick |
| 20:16:58 | dougggg | yup |
| 20:17:12 | Patlabor221 | 15.5 and 3 months here |
| 20:17:18 | dougggg | cool |
| 20:17:19 | Patlabor221 | so you can get it when you are 16 |
| 20:17:25 | m0nkey_b0y | they should make it 21 |
| 20:17:26 | dougggg | packs up and moves |
| 20:17:28 | Patlabor221 | most get it on there birthdays |
| 20:17:30 | dougggg | m0nkey_b0y: hah |
| 20:17:37 | dougggg | how much does it cost? |
| 20:17:42 | Patlabor221 | $12 |
| 20:17:44 | sussudio | 5 dollah? |
| 20:17:50 | Patlabor221 | used to be $10 |
| 20:17:50 | m0nkey_b0y | 20 dollah |
| 20:17:55 | dougggg | hmm |
| 20:18:07 | dougggg | whos gonna bid 25? |
| 20:18:07 | Patlabor221 | thats for the permit and the lisence |
| 20:18:14 | sussudio | 25 disneydollah |
| 20:18:29 | Patlabor221 | 3.75 canadian. |
| 20:18:31 | m0nkey_b0y | hollah back now |
| 20:18:32 | dougggg | alllriiigty! 30 dollers? |
| 20:18:39 | dougggg | going once! |
| 20:18:40 | sussudio | 1000 zloty! |
| 20:18:47 | Patlabor221 | 10000 zenny. |
| 20:18:50 | dougggg | aaaaaaannnnnndddd sussudio is the winner! |
| 20:18:51 | m0nkey_b0y | canadian?? |
| 20:18:53 | m0nkey_b0y | hhehe |
| 20:18:54 | dougggg | erk |
| 20:18:54 | dougggg | :) |
| 20:19:08 | sussudio | 1000 zloty is like 3 cents |
| 20:19:16 | dougggg | hah |
| 20:19:23 | sussudio | polish toiletpapah |
| 20:19:41 | dougggg | snickers |
| 20:20:38 | Patlabor221 | me thinks it is time to add clouds |
| 20:20:42 | Patlabor221 | and perhaps fog |
| 20:20:47 | dougggg | yea!!! |
| 20:20:57 | dougggg | but is other things done? |
| 20:20:58 | Patlabor221 | then some phyzacs |
| 20:21:01 | dougggg | like jumping |
| 20:21:05 | dougggg | ? |
| 20:21:06 | Patlabor221 | what other thing? |
| 20:21:18 | Patlabor221 | there is no real movment model yet |
| 20:21:19 | Patlabor221 | so no |
| 20:21:19 | dougggg | jumping, walls are solid... |
| 20:21:22 | dougggg | ah |
| 20:21:25 | dougggg | shooting |
| 20:21:30 | Patlabor221 | that would be phyzaks |
| 20:21:34 | dougggg | ah |
| 20:21:38 | Patlabor221 | what would you shoot at? |
| 20:21:39 | dougggg | will it have tilt? |
| 20:21:48 | dougggg | like BZA? |
| 20:21:52 | Patlabor221 | guess you never hit page up or page down |
| 20:21:56 | dougggg | ? |
| 20:21:58 | dougggg | nope |
| 20:22:10 | dougggg | I hit all my keys... who would bind somthing to page up/down? |
| 20:22:24 | Patlabor221 | your mamma |
| 20:22:31 | m0nkey_b0y | heh |
| 20:22:45 | m0nkey_b0y | i love #bzflag |
| 20:22:53 | dougggg | um, yea, but I meant tilting and sliding like BZA? |
| 20:22:59 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: wasn't it home/end? |
| 20:23:08 | dougggg | and its home/end |
| 20:23:13 | Patlabor221 | cap: shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 20:23:14 | dougggg | shrugs |
| 20:23:24 | captain_proton | curses |
| 20:23:29 | Patlabor221 | no til.ting and sliding |
| 20:23:33 | dougggg | bah |
| 20:23:41 | dougggg | will it have it? |
| 20:23:47 | dougggg | or is it not gonna be in it? |
| 20:23:52 | Patlabor221 | does not make well for motile turrets |
| 20:24:06 | Patlabor221 | it's just a test |
| 20:24:06 | dougggg | hmm |
| 20:24:11 | Patlabor221 | who knows |
| 20:24:15 | dougggg | bah, I liked it |
| 20:24:20 | dougggg | ooh |
| 20:24:21 | Patlabor221 | it may become first person pong |
| 20:24:21 | sussudio | mobile turrets syndrome? |
| 20:24:23 | dougggg | turrets? |
| 20:24:34 | dougggg | how would turrets work? |
| 20:24:35 | Patlabor221 | whoooot bith |
| 20:24:41 | dougggg | 2 players per tank? |
| 20:24:46 | sussudio | dougggg: CHICKENPLUCKER |
| 20:24:50 | Patlabor221 | that is the entire point of this experement |
| 20:24:53 | Patlabor221 | how would the work |
| 20:25:02 | dougggg | how do I get up to the top of that map? |
| 20:25:10 | Patlabor221 | you don't |
| 20:25:15 | Patlabor221 | that map blows too |
| 20:25:22 | Patlabor221 | I don't make it |
| 20:25:23 | dougggg | ah |
| 20:25:26 | dougggg | who did? |
| 20:25:35 | Patlabor221 | spif |
| 20:25:39 | Patlabor221 | I just used it as a test |
| 20:25:42 | dougggg | ah |
| 20:25:45 | sussudio | hm that almost goes without saying |
| 20:25:52 | captain_proton | would rather have static turrets but tipping tanks :) |
| 20:25:52 | Patlabor221 | he said it ran slow |
| 20:26:06 | Patlabor221 | cap: that is what I want to experiment with |
| 20:26:07 | dougggg | captain_proton: yes! |
| 20:26:25 | dougggg | but could we have turrets that go up and down? |
| 20:26:31 | Patlabor221 | my ftp XL_Text.zip |
| 20:26:33 | Patlabor221 | better map |
| 20:26:35 | captain_proton | dougggg: but why? |
| 20:26:44 | captain_proton | that removes some element of strategery |
| 20:26:49 | dougggg | hmm |
| 20:26:52 | captain_proton | you could tip off a building and shoot people |
| 20:26:55 | sussudio | TNT2 really blows |
| 20:26:57 | dougggg | make it a server option |
| 20:26:58 | Patlabor221 | and some other things |
| 20:27:04 | dougggg | but it would be cool |
| 20:27:28 | sussudio | i got about 35fps on that damn nvidia thing..... |
| 20:27:30 | dougggg | how do I load other maps? |
| 20:27:39 | sussudio | i get about 150 on my radeon |
| 20:27:40 | Patlabor221 | you don't |
| 20:27:47 | dougggg | hmm |
| 20:27:47 | Patlabor221 | it dosn't read BZ maps proper |
| 20:27:50 | captain_proton | sussudio: TNT2 is ooooooooold |
| 20:27:54 | dougggg | theres 2 map files |
| 20:27:57 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:28:01 | Patlabor221 | but it only reads one |
| 20:28:07 | dougggg | boggles |
| 20:28:08 | sussudio | TNT2 was the cheapest card.... that's why they got it |
| 20:28:13 | Patlabor221 | the current one reads test1.map |
| 20:28:16 | dougggg | ok |
| 20:28:21 | dougggg | whats XLmap? |
| 20:28:22 | Patlabor221 | you can edit that map if you want tho |
| 20:28:23 | sussudio | the graphics are ugly and jagged too |
| 20:28:24 | dougggg | oh? |
| 20:28:26 | dougggg | hmm |
| 20:28:30 | dougggg | opens notpad |
| 20:28:32 | Patlabor221 | that's the spif one |
| 20:28:33 | captain_proton | radeon is at least a couple generations beyond tnt2 |
| 20:28:45 | dougggg | unless you could make bzedit open it... |
| 20:28:53 | sussudio | ati would rule if the software wasnt made by retarded canadian monkeys |
| 20:28:56 | Patlabor221 | BZedit won't open them |
| 20:29:08 | dougggg | shrugs |
| 20:29:10 | dougggg | make it |
| 20:29:12 | dougggg | :) |
| 20:29:14 | Patlabor221 | BZedit 1.52b will write them |
| 20:29:17 | dougggg | sussudio: haha |
| 20:29:20 | dougggg | ah |
| 20:29:39 | Patlabor221 | the editor would need more interface items then |
| 20:29:40 | captain_proton | hmmm, looks like it should be possible to make a computer fishtank |
| 20:29:48 | dougggg | yea |
| 20:29:49 | dougggg | captain_proton? |
| 20:29:58 | Patlabor221 | mac plus's make good ones |
| 20:30:01 | Patlabor221 | as do Imacs |
| 20:30:05 | captain_proton | because flourinert can be oxygenated |
| 20:30:10 | sussudio | captain_proton: yes, it's called ORAC |
| 20:30:14 | dougggg | haha |
| 20:30:21 | captain_proton | sussudio: ;) |
| 20:30:31 | sussudio | [confirmed] |
| 20:30:37 | dougggg | wants a fishtank with a computer in it |
| 20:30:40 | Patlabor221 | and if I added those interface items to the editor they would not make sense for BZ proper. |
| 20:30:47 | dougggg | have pure distilled water... |
| 20:30:51 | dougggg | drop puter in.. |
| 20:30:52 | Patlabor221 | but can fish live in it? |
| 20:30:54 | dougggg | presto! |
| 20:31:00 | dougggg | hmm |
| 20:31:02 | dougggg | dunno |
| 20:31:02 | Patlabor221 | what about the fish poo |
| 20:31:07 | dougggg | fish poop would mess it up |
| 20:31:09 | Patlabor221 | I'll be it conducts |
| 20:31:15 | dougggg | lol |
| 20:31:18 | captain_proton | the thing is that with enough oxygen in the flourinert for the fish to live, the exposed metal portions would rust |
| 20:31:21 | sussudio | and you'd cook the fish when playing bzflag :-f |
| 20:31:36 | captain_proton | sussudio: gotta get some warm-water fish :) |
| 20:31:37 | dougggg | grabs the voltmeter and wonders off to the bathroom |
| 20:31:51 | Patlabor221 | I'll bet it's not just oxy that the fisn need from the water too |
| 20:31:56 | dougggg | yea yea |
| 20:31:57 | dougggg | ok |
| 20:32:01 | sussudio | dougggg: too much information....... |
| 20:32:02 | dougggg | a water tank with a puter init |
| 20:32:36 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i don't think so, but possibly |
| 20:33:09 | captain_proton | isn't gonna use water though, because it doesn't take a huge amount of impurities (say, fish-food) to make it conduct |
| 20:33:20 | dougggg | oh? |
| 20:33:27 | dougggg | what you gonna use? |
| 20:34:00 | captain_proton | slaps dougggg with a stick of obviousness |
| 20:34:02 | captain_proton | learn to read |
| 20:34:19 | dougggg | you gonna use FISHFOOD? |
| 20:34:39 | captain_proton | slaps dougggg again |
| 20:35:12 | captain_proton | <captain_proton> because flourinert can be oxygenated |
| 20:35:28 | dougggg | ah |
| 20:35:39 | dougggg | whats, um, floorinart |
| 20:35:51 | Patlabor221 | goo |
| 20:35:55 | Patlabor221 | intert goo |
| 20:36:03 | Patlabor221 | that can be oxygenated |
| 20:36:05 | dougggg | ah |
| 20:36:09 | dougggg | fish live in it? |
| 20:36:11 | captain_proton | a completely inert, non-toxic, non-conductive liquid |
| 20:36:15 | Patlabor221 | that I don't think so |
| 20:36:20 | dougggg | shrugs |
| 20:36:30 | dougggg | does it conduct heat? |
| 20:36:41 | captain_proton | originally developed as a synthetic blood replacement |
| 20:36:43 | captain_proton | dougggg: yep |
| 20:36:47 | dougggg | hmm |
| 20:36:48 | sussudio | hm you could sell it as fizzy pop if you carbonated it |
| 20:36:59 | dougggg | hmm |
| 20:37:06 | dougggg | no fan athlon xp anyone? |
| 20:37:07 | dougggg | :) |
| 20:37:27 | Patlabor221 | you would still want a heat sink |
| 20:37:30 | dougggg | yea |
| 20:37:32 | dougggg | just no fan |
| 20:37:40 | Patlabor221 | the surface of the die wouln't get enough |
| 20:37:44 | Patlabor221 | you can do that now |
| 20:37:51 | Patlabor221 | just use an apple heat sink |
| 20:37:53 | dougggg | a) fans dont work in a liquide very good |
| 20:37:53 | captain_proton | you also need to rotate the liquid and cool it off |
| 20:37:56 | dougggg | hmm |
| 20:38:03 | dougggg | yea, thats not too hard |
| 20:41:53 | sussudio | hm |
| 20:41:54 | sussudio | http://www.scd.ucar.edu/news/00/features/0414.antero/fluoro.html |
| 20:41:58 | sussudio | 165 friggin gallons |
| 20:42:17 | dougggg | lol |
| 20:42:20 | captain_proton | hacks remote to adjust both mixer devices |
| 20:42:36 | dougggg | is away |
| 21:44:11 | snyke | hi BZFlag |
| 21:44:26 | snyke | could you please join gametome to talk to nilfilter? |
| 21:46:44 | snyke | thx |
| 21:54:56 | dougggg | http://simson.net/photos/hacks/cubefire.gif |
| 21:55:11 | dougggg | NeXT cube burning |
| 22:35:52 | Patlabor221 | anyone know if BZ frustum culls it's clouds? |
| 22:38:25 | BZFlag | doubts it |
| 22:38:44 | Patlabor221 | I didn't think so, and I couldn't see in the code where |
| 22:38:54 | Patlabor221 | but figured it would be safe to ask |
| 22:45:26 | dougggg | 'lo paul |
| 22:45:28 | dougggg | erk |
| 22:45:34 | dougggg | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 22:45:39 | paul | hiya dougy |
| 22:45:48 | dougggg | :) |
| 22:46:51 | Patlabor221 | lok |
| 22:46:55 | Patlabor221 | lo |
| 22:47:18 | dougggg | Truly adept users can also hook a DIP chip extractor under the socket, not the chip, and bodily rip it from its soldered-in location. |
| 22:55:03 | Patlabor221 | why? |
| 22:59:07 | dougggg | How to partition a disk-drive using a hack-saw. |
| 23:01:36 | dougggg | Activity 3: Monitor + Hammer = Good Clean Fun! |
| 23:05:02 | Patlabor221 | again why? |
| 23:05:09 | dougggg | :) |
| 23:05:15 | dougggg | http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/10041.html |
| 23:05:28 | dougggg | Rub some fine grit steal wool above the expansion slots. Plug a junk card into each slot then remove. |
| 23:05:34 | dougggg | The fine strands of steal will create intermittent shorts and will drive them insane. e.g. fiber shifts slightly, shorts two contacts. Crashs machine, and burns (the fiber not the machine). Repeats until they get a new computer. Don't worry, Microsoft will take the heat. |
| 23:28:53 | Patlabor221 | resists the urge to name the function "SpawnCloud()" something crass. |
| 23:29:00 | captain_proton | what would you name it? |
| 23:29:34 | Patlabor221 | Fart() |
| 23:29:43 | dougggg | lol |
| 23:29:43 | captain_proton | haha |
| 23:53:50 | dougggg | oh cool |
| 23:53:57 | dougggg | gerbil is online |
