| 00:35:12 | tvon | captain_proton: know where I can find the old decks? |
| 00:35:19 | tvon | one at sourceforge is slightly diff |
| 00:45:49 | captain_proton | tvon: it is?! |
| 00:46:03 | captain_proton | decks hasn't changed in 3 years, thats the one i posted to sf |
| 00:46:24 | captain_proton | probably more than 3 years even |
| 00:46:31 | tvon | whaaaaat? |
| 00:46:33 | tvon | its all funky |
| 00:46:38 | tvon | not what was up at bhaskara |
| 00:46:50 | captain_proton | it could be that its in an unconverted form, lemme look |
| 00:46:54 | tvon | is a mod of what was at bhaskara ..... |
| 00:47:16 | tvon | check 68.67.196.6:5155 |
| 00:47:23 | tvon | the sf one is up there |
| 00:47:54 | captain_proton | yep, its unconverted |
| 00:48:04 | tvon | ? |
| 00:48:07 | captain_proton | lemme convert it and update |
| 00:48:11 | tvon | oh, okay |
| 00:48:15 | tvon | spiffy |
| 00:48:18 | captain_proton | a few years ago we switched from radians to degrees in the world files |
| 00:48:28 | tvon | OH....I remember that |
| 00:48:33 | tvon | interesting |
| 00:49:11 | captain_proton | speaking of which, i need to start up the bhaskara bz server again |
| 00:49:15 | tvon | yeah you do |
| 00:49:19 | tvon | :) |
| 00:50:14 | captain_proton | there, should be updated |
| 00:50:18 | tvon | nice |
| 00:51:17 | tvon | getting sf errors |
| 00:51:21 | tvon | maybe give it a minute or two |
| 00:55:02 | tvon | non hookus |
| 00:59:02 | tvon | ack...cant get the file |
| 00:59:05 | tvon | "ERROR - ArtifactFile: Invalid ArtifactFile ID" |
| 01:04:11 | tvon | oh well, simple conversion |
| 01:27:49 | captain_proton | scary |
| 01:27:54 | captain_proton | i have 6 dsp devices now |
| 02:23:05 | Patlabor221 | truly is a horible artist |
| 03:13:54 | captain_proton | gives up on btaudio for now |
| 03:26:33 | iLLf8d | night all |
| 03:59:01 | TLM | [amsg] Night all |
| 05:27:32 | MrApathyCream | _ _ _ _ _/_ _ _ _/_ _ _ _ |
| 05:27:35 | MrApathyCream | ----- |
| 05:27:35 | MrApathyCream | | | |
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| 05:27:38 | MrApathyCream | | |
| 05:27:40 | MrApathyCream | ----- |
| 05:28:19 | captain_proton | um |
| 05:28:20 | captain_proton | A |
| 05:28:38 | MrApathyCream | ----- |
| 05:28:38 | MrApathyCream | | | |
| 05:28:38 | MrApathyCream | 0 | |
| 05:28:38 | MrApathyCream | | |
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| 05:28:39 | MrApathyCream | | |
| 05:28:41 | MrApathyCream | | |
| 05:28:43 | MrApathyCream | ----- |
| 05:37:12 | MrApathyCream | anyone? |
| 05:37:57 | sussudio | no thanks, i gave up ascii art 15 years ago |
| 05:52:54 | MrApathyCream | suit yourself, bypassing hangman is bad mojo |
| 08:04:43 | Wilinckx | ping: unknown host list.bzflag.org |
| 08:07:04 | BZFlag | eep. looks like my isp dropped by dns?!? |
| 08:07:16 | Wilinckx | hm... |
| 08:08:06 | Wilinckx | If you give me the IP adress, I can check if that works? |
| 08:09:22 | BZFlag | user rikers.org |
| 08:09:33 | BZFlag | er use. but I'm fixing it now. |
| 08:09:38 | bomber_ | moin |
| 08:10:43 | BZFlag | try it now? |
| 08:11:48 | BZFlag | ibot: bzflist |
| 08:11:49 | | BZFlag: bzbody.dedicatedpenguin.com:5155(3) 209.152.106.94:5164(1) chardonnay.math.bme.hu:5155(1) ducati.bzflag.org:5156(1) |
| 08:12:01 | Wilinckx | still the same problem... unknow host |
| 08:12:16 | Wilinckx | w8 |
| 08:12:18 | Wilinckx | it works |
| 08:12:20 | BZFlag | hmm. you dns cache has to get flushed. |
| 08:12:24 | Wilinckx | yes |
| 08:12:24 | BZFlag | cool. |
| 08:12:26 | Wilinckx | idd |
| 08:24:38 | prodan | waves hello. |
| 08:25:05 | | prodan: excuse me? |
| 08:25:05 | prodan | ibot ducati |
| 08:25:14 | prodan | no |
| 08:25:21 | prodan | no excuses ibot |
| 09:30:04 | BZFlag | ibot bzflist |
| 09:39:58 | BZFlag | ibot bzflist |
| 09:39:59 | | BZFlag: ajax.itc.gu.edu.au:5155(1) bzflag-1.games.internode.on.net:5155(3) bzbody.dedicatedpenguin.com:5155(4) |
| 10:47:16 | Wilinckx | I want to setup an bzflag server. Which port do I have to set open on my firewall? |
| 10:47:24 | Wilinckx | 5155tcp and 5155udp? that's it? |
| 10:56:02 | Chestal | you need a second port which is specified with -pr |
| 10:56:27 | Wilinckx | aaaaah |
| 10:56:30 | Wilinckx | thx thx thx thx |
| 10:56:31 | Wilinckx | many thx! |
| 10:56:34 | Wilinckx | Now I understand! |
| 10:56:47 | Chestal | the second port is an anachronism, but it's there :-) |
| 10:57:06 | Wilinckx | :-) |
| 10:58:46 | Wilinckx | and must the -p (the first) be tcp or udp? and the -pr (the second) ? udp or tcp or both? |
| 11:00:15 | Chestal | I am not 100% sure |
| 11:00:20 | Chestal | you need both open for incoming tcp |
| 11:00:34 | Chestal | and at least one of them for udp, I'd guess the first one |
| 11:01:03 | Wilinckx | hm... |
| 11:01:14 | Wilinckx | I'll open both udp and tcp then :-) |
| 11:01:50 | Chestal | I wonder why netstat shows port 5154 udp for all my servers, hmm |
| 11:02:10 | Wilinckx | haar dmned |
| 11:02:22 | Wilinckx | The problem is: I have to say to my firewall which port he has to forware |
| 11:02:25 | Wilinckx | forward i mean |
| 11:03:47 | Chestal | Sascha-W: meine ist auch nicht viel besser, aber ich hab sie einigermassen im Griff |
| 11:03:49 | Chestal | oops |
| 11:07:01 | Wilinckx | OK. I'll open 5155 5156 and 5154 for udp and tcp. Is that enough? |
| 11:07:41 | Chestal | I hope so |
| 11:09:05 | Wilinckx | OK. I will be back in 5 min |
| 11:18:24 | bomber_ | Pinguin |
| 11:18:33 | sussudio | bomber_ |
| 11:18:37 | Wilinckx | wee tee heef? |
| 11:18:46 | Wilinckx | bzfs -p 5155 -pr 5156 -j -public "Welcome by Willem's server" +r -r +s 30 -s 10 -ms 10 -st 10 -ttl 255 |
| 11:18:47 | Wilinckx | Segmentation fault |
| 11:18:59 | Chestal | uh? |
| 11:19:07 | sussudio | erm? |
| 11:19:09 | Wilinckx | Let's get the core.... |
| 11:19:12 | | well, platform is This is a means of generically grouping like computers. Macintosh computers are a platform; so are PCs running DOS. It's not very specific, and multi-platform support can mean many things. If someone says to you "this application supports multiple platforms," ask them which ones they are talking about. |
| 11:19:12 | Chestal | what platform? |
| 11:19:25 | sussudio | shut up ibot |
| 11:19:30 | Wilinckx | he |
| 11:19:42 | Wilinckx | platform: PC with Debian GNU/Linux |
| 11:19:53 | sussudio | if you dont supply a -publicaddr it's not available to the outside |
| 11:20:09 | Pinguin | bomber |
| 11:20:12 | Wilinckx | hm |
| 11:20:17 | bomber_ | gnome meeting |
| 11:20:32 | Chestal | Wili: bzfs 1.7e6? |
| 11:20:36 | Wilinckx | yes |
| 11:20:45 | Wilinckx | Copyright (c) 1993 - 2002 Tim Riker |
| 11:20:46 | Wilinckx | BZFlag server, version 1.7e6 |
| 11:20:46 | Wilinckx | protocol 1.7e |
| 11:20:47 | Pinguin | OK |
| 11:21:05 | Chestal | dump the -ttl parameter, you don't need it |
| 11:21:13 | Wilinckx | withoud the "-public" it doesn't crash |
| 11:21:25 | bomber_ | Pinguin call me |
| 11:21:33 | Wilinckx | with -public and withoud --tl it crash |
| 11:21:42 | Chestal | try it simple |
| 11:21:54 | Chestal | bzfs -p 5155 -pr 5156 -public test |
| 11:22:07 | Wilinckx | segfault |
| 11:22:07 | Chestal | you migh thave to use -publicaddr, depends |
| 11:22:12 | Chestal | hmm |
| 11:22:20 | Chestal | that's strange |
| 11:22:30 | sussudio | /usr/games/bzfs -fb -j +r +s 30 -sa -ms 3 -st 1 -mp 4 -r -world default.map -f bad -srvmsg Hello -public My_Server_And_Stuff -publiclist http://bzflag.sourceforge.net/list-server.txt -publicaddr [yourip] |
| 11:22:47 | Chestal | it shouldn't crash anyway |
| 11:22:56 | Wilinckx | idd |
| 11:23:42 | Wilinckx | That line of sussudio works (if I removed the -world because he doesn't find that map) |
| 11:24:11 | Chestal | strange |
| 11:24:48 | Wilinckx | another thing: I can't connect to the list.bzflag.server , but that's a problem of my isp now :-( |
| 11:24:50 | Chestal | it shouldn't require -publicaddr, it might be needed if 'hostname' is not a real fqdn, but it shouldn't crash either way |
| 11:24:51 | sussudio | i've never had bzfs segfault on me...... it does however lock up when i try to load a bad map |
| 11:25:18 | Chestal | Wili: hmm, when you cannot connect to the listserv, -public won't work anyway |
| 11:25:39 | Wilinckx | hm |
| 11:26:13 | BZFlag | wonders if Chestal mean `hostname` or `hostname --fqdn` |
| 11:26:38 | Wilinckx | hm. I can't connect to my server |
| 11:27:05 | Chestal | bzflag: let's say I mean confis with dynamic IP and faked hostnames |
| 11:27:13 | Chestal | bzflag: which do not resolve from the outside |
| 11:27:36 | BZFlag | I changed the pointer on the web site to the address. try connecting now. |
| 11:27:41 | Chestal | Wili: from where? |
| 11:29:16 | Wilinckx | from myselv |
| 11:29:43 | Chestal | using which interface? |
| 11:29:53 | Chestal | itmight not be listening on lo |
| 11:29:58 | Wilinckx | haarch damned |
| 11:30:25 | bomber_ | Pinguin noch mal gnome |
| 11:30:28 | bomber_ | bitte |
| 11:30:56 | Pinguin | OK |
| 11:31:54 | Wilinckx | Now I have |
| 11:31:55 | Wilinckx | /usr/games/bzfs -p 5155 -pr 5156 -publiclist http://bzflag.sourceforge.net/list-server.txt -publicaddr 212.239.170.56 |
| 11:31:58 | Wilinckx | and I can't connect |
| 11:32:33 | Chestal | firewall open? can Itryfrom outside? |
| 11:32:39 | Wilinckx | firewall open |
| 11:32:47 | Wilinckx | you can try to connect |
| 11:32:49 | Chestal | it's lsitenig on 5155 |
| 11:32:53 | Wilinckx | yes |
| 11:34:40 | Chestal | hmm, it's not working |
| 11:34:45 | Wilinckx | yeah :-( |
| 11:35:06 | Wilinckx | grmbl |
| 11:35:15 | Wilinckx | I also can't connect to my IP from here |
| 11:35:41 | Wilinckx | hee, I pressed CTRL+C to stop the server ==> segmentation fault |
| 11:36:51 | Chestal | very unusual |
| 11:36:57 | Chestal | start it upagain please |
| 11:37:11 | Wilinckx | /usr/games/bzfs -p 5155 -pr 5156 -publiclist http://bzflag.sourceforge.net/list-server.txt -publicaddr 212.239.170.56 |
| 11:37:13 | Chestal | hmm, it worked once with bzfquery |
| 11:37:18 | Wilinckx | once?? |
| 11:37:31 | Chestal | yes, after the crash itworked once |
| 11:37:31 | | BZFlag: huh? |
| 11:37:31 | BZFlag | ibot: bzquery 212.239.170.56 |
| 11:37:35 | Chestal | now noconnection |
| 11:37:37 | BZFlag | ibot: bzfquery 212.239.170.56 |
| 11:37:59 | Wilinckx | (server still running) |
| 11:38:07 | BZFlag | seems ibot can't get there. |
| 11:38:11 | Chestal | actually, it connects to 5155, but doesn't get a reply |
| 11:38:17 | Wilinckx | haa shit |
| 11:38:20 | Wilinckx | w8 |
| 11:38:24 | BZFlag | note that ibot and the list serve are on the same box. ;-) |
| 11:38:39 | Chestal | I also wonder why it crashes so often |
| 11:38:41 | Wilinckx | I have problem's with the list server. I think my isp blocks port 5156 on that hostname |
| 11:38:46 | Chestal | I suspect that something is very wrong |
| 11:38:58 | Wilinckx | hmm |
| 11:39:18 | Chestal | try to use bzflist://166.70.15.250:5156/ instead of the URL |
| 11:39:30 | | BZFlag: read error |
| 11:39:33 | Wilinckx | (server stopped) |
| 11:39:43 | Chestal | or dump the -public for now |
| 11:39:47 | Chestal | and we'll see if it works at all |
| 11:40:04 | Wilinckx | thus : /usr/games/bzfs -p 5155 -pr 5156 -publicaddr 212.239.170.56 ?? |
| 11:40:14 | Chestal | dump -publicaddr, too |
| 11:40:19 | Wilinckx | ah ok |
| 11:40:30 | Wilinckx | /usr/games/bzfs -p 5155 -pr 5156 |
| 11:40:34 | Wilinckx | (server running) |
| 11:40:35 | BZFlag | might try -i |
| 11:40:40 | BZFlag | ibot: bzfquery 212.239.170.56 |
| 11:40:42 | | BZFlag: No Players |
| 11:40:46 | Wilinckx | hee |
| 11:40:52 | Wilinckx | would someone like to join? |
| 11:40:53 | Chestal | works fine now |
| 11:40:55 | Chestal | ok |
| 11:40:58 | Wilinckx | woehoe |
| 11:41:01 | Wilinckx | I'll also join! |
| 11:41:04 | Chestal | hmm, not ok actually |
| 11:41:11 | Chestal | my X crashed, just a moment |
| 11:41:12 | BZFlag | try with the -public |
| 11:41:40 | Wilinckx | hm |
| 11:41:50 | Wilinckx | (server stopped) |
| 11:41:57 | Wilinckx | hee,e no segfault now if i press ctrl+c |
| 11:42:21 | Wilinckx | /usr/games/bzfs -p 5155 -pr 5156 -public "test321 Wilinckx server" |
| 11:42:24 | Wilinckx | (server running) |
| 11:42:40 | Chestal | ok, I'm on |
| 11:42:52 | Wilinckx | you are on the server? |
| 11:45:21 | Wilinckx | it works :-) |
| 11:45:26 | Chestal | ok |
| 11:45:34 | Wilinckx | but I already use the -public |
| 11:45:37 | Wilinckx | /usr/games/bzfs -p 5155 -pr 5156 -public "test321 Wilinckx server" |
| 11:45:40 | Chestal | hmm |
| 11:45:47 | Chestal | did itshow up in server list? |
| 11:45:53 | Wilinckx | I don't know |
| 11:45:56 | Wilinckx | I can't connect the server list |
| 11:45:56 | Chestal | you might also want to add '-d -d' |
| 11:46:01 | Wilinckx | -d -d?? |
| 11:46:04 | Wilinckx | is reading the man page |
| 11:46:20 | Wilinckx | hmm... I can't find -d ?? |
| 11:46:21 | Chestal | did youi try to use bzflist://166.70.15.250:5156/ as the server lsit instead of the http URL? |
| 11:46:26 | Wilinckx | no |
| 11:46:33 | Wilinckx | so... |
| 11:46:35 | Chestal | -d is for debugging, makes the server more verbosewith each -d |
| 11:46:40 | Wilinckx | aah |
| 11:46:43 | Wilinckx | thx thx! |
| 11:46:48 | Wilinckx | (server stopped) |
| 11:46:58 | Wilinckx | style: 0 |
| 11:46:58 | Wilinckx | listening on 0.0.0.0:5155 |
| 11:47:01 | Wilinckx | when I reastart |
| 11:47:13 | Wilinckx | so -publiclist bzflist://166.70.15.250:5156/ ? |
| 11:47:36 | Wilinckx | hehe, you tried to join I see :-) |
| 11:47:47 | Chestal | was a bzfquery |
| 11:47:51 | Chestal | yes, try that |
| 11:48:04 | Chestal | serevr shoudl say something when it tries to contact the lsit server |
| 11:48:20 | Wilinckx | it doesn't say anithing about that |
| 11:48:20 | Wilinckx | only |
| 11:48:22 | Chestal | when you give enough -d |
| 11:48:25 | Wilinckx | style: 0 |
| 11:48:25 | Wilinckx | listening on 0.0.0.0:5155 |
| 11:48:40 | Wilinckx | style: 0 |
| 11:48:40 | Wilinckx | Opening List Server 0 |
| 11:48:40 | Wilinckx | listening on 0.0.0.0:5155 |
| 11:48:40 | Wilinckx | ADD Bopen.bureau 6 BZFS107e 000000280001000000000000000000000028002800280028002800000000000000000000 test321 Wilinckx server |
| 11:48:40 | Wilinckx | Closing List server 0 |
| 11:48:44 | Wilinckx | shit |
| 11:48:48 | Wilinckx | bopen.bureau is local network |
| 11:49:15 | Chestal | ok |
| 11:49:25 | Chestal | then add -publicaddr <ip or real hsotname> |
| 11:49:36 | Wilinckx | /whois Wilinckx |
| 11:49:46 | Wilinckx | the hostname is u212-239-170-56.adsl.pi.be |
| 11:49:55 | Chestal | well, it's not pretty, but ok :-) |
| 11:50:02 | Chestal | can also use your ip directly |
| 11:51:07 | Wilinckx | there is also something wrong with |
| 11:51:08 | Wilinckx | /usr/games/bzfs -p 5155 -pr 5156 -public "test321 Wilinckx server" -d -d -d -d -d -publiclist bzflist://166.70.15.250:5156/ -publicadr u212-239-170-56.adsl.pi.be |
| 11:51:12 | Wilinckx | he gives the --help |
| 11:51:20 | Wilinckx | aah I see it :-) |
| 11:51:21 | Wilinckx | sry |
| 11:51:26 | Wilinckx | ddr must it be |
| 11:51:42 | Wilinckx | /usr/games/bzfs -p 5155 -pr 5156 -public "test321 Wilinckx server" -d -d -d -d -d -publiclist bzflist://166.70.15.250:5156/ -publicadr u212-239-170-56.adsl.pi.be |
| 11:52:37 | Wilinckx | that works nice :-) |
| 11:53:05 | Wilinckx | woehoe, those -d gives a little bit too much debug info I think... |
| 11:55:45 | Wilinckx | thx a lot everyone :-) |
| 11:56:06 | Wilinckx | grùmbl, gaim crashed |
| 11:57:27 | Wilinckx | hmm... my server isn't on the server list :-( |
| 11:59:13 | Chestal | hmm |
| 11:59:23 | Chestal | there were some issues with the serevr lsit obviously |
| 11:59:27 | Chestal | mien aren't showing up either |
| 11:59:49 | Wilinckx | yeah! |
| 11:59:56 | Wilinckx | but normally I can't contact the list server |
| 12:00:01 | Wilinckx | but now it works! |
| 12:00:06 | Wilinckx | I can do a find-server in bzflag! |
| 12:01:15 | Wilinckx | uhm, and now I can't connect to my own server... |
| 12:02:18 | BZFlag | ibot bzflist |
| 12:02:37 | BZFlag | ibot: bzflist |
| 12:02:39 | | BZFlag: |
| 12:02:43 | BZFlag | hmm. |
| 12:02:58 | | BZFlag: |
| 12:03:01 | Wilinckx | hm |
| 12:04:05 | Wilinckx | heeej |
| 12:04:12 | Wilinckx | I can't do bzflag u212-239-170-56.adsl.pi.be |
| 12:04:15 | Wilinckx | But I can do bzflag localhost |
| 12:04:20 | BZFlag | ibot: bzflist |
| 12:04:41 | | BZFlag: |
| 12:06:51 | BZFlag | ibot: bzflist |
| 12:06:52 | | BZFlag: ajax.itc.gu.edu.au:5155(4) 68.67.196.6:5155(2) bzflag.freebsdtips.com:6666(1) bzflag-1.games.internode.on.net:5155(5) darknet.dk:5155(5) bzbody.dedicatedpenguin.com:5155(12) |
| 12:07:17 | Wilinckx | hmng, I think my server is fighting with the list server? |
| 12:07:19 | Wilinckx | aah, no |
| 12:07:25 | sussudio | you cant put spaces in there |
| 12:07:37 | sussudio | -public "test321 Wilinckx server" is bad |
| 12:07:41 | Wilinckx | ooh |
| 12:07:42 | Wilinckx | sry |
| 12:07:55 | Wilinckx | stopped the server |
| 12:07:57 | BZFlag | space should be ok there. |
| 12:08:12 | Chestal | I am using spaces myself just fine |
| 12:08:19 | Wilinckx | hm |
| 12:08:30 | BZFlag | ibot: bzfquery u212-239-170-56.adsl.pi.be:5155 |
| 12:08:31 | | BZFlag: No Players |
| 12:08:34 | Wilinckx | usr/games/bzfs -p 5155 -pr 5156 -ms 7 -j -public "test321" -d -d -d -publiclist bzflist://166.70.15.250:5156/ -publicaddr u212-239-170-56.adsl.pi.be |
| 12:08:37 | Wilinckx | (server started now) |
| 12:08:49 | Wilinckx | I'm going to join now |
| 12:09:29 | Wilinckx | damned, I can't connect anymore |
| 12:09:41 | Wilinckx | aah I understand it I think |
| 12:10:58 | BZFlag | ibot: bzfquery u212-239-170-56.adsl.pi.be:5155 |
| 12:11:27 | Wilinckx | hee? |
| 12:11:29 | Wilinckx | netcat 212.239.170.56 5156 |
| 12:11:29 | Wilinckx | (UNKNOWN) [212.239.170.56] 5156 (?) : Connection refused |
| 12:11:40 | sussudio | damned |
| 12:11:40 | sussudio | damned |
| 12:11:41 | sussudio | damned |
| 12:11:42 | Wilinckx | 212.239.170.56 5155 |
| 12:11:42 | Wilinckx | (UNKNOWN) [212.239.170.56] 5155 (?) : Connection refused |
| 12:11:48 | Wilinckx | MERDE |
| 12:11:50 | sussudio | it crashed my client |
| 12:11:57 | Wilinckx | GODVERDOMMEMILJAARDENONDENDJU |
| 12:12:00 | Wilinckx | oops, sry |
| 12:12:02 | BZFlag | ibot: nslookup 212.239.170.56 |
| 12:12:03 | | 212.239.170.56 is u212-239-170-56.adsl.pi.be |
| 12:12:26 | Wilinckx | there is some1 playing i think |
| 12:12:27 | Wilinckx | accept() from 213.17.50.10:61313 on 7 |
| 12:13:33 | Wilinckx | godver |
| 12:13:39 | Wilinckx | I have the problem of the listserver again |
| 12:13:57 | BZFlag | ibot: bzfquery u212-239-170-56.adsl.pi.be:5155 |
| 12:14:17 | Wilinckx | a "wget 66.70.15.250:5156" don't work anymore :-( |
| 12:14:34 | | BZFlag: read error |
| 12:14:36 | Wilinckx | stopped the server |
| 12:14:58 | Wilinckx | started the server |
| 12:15:09 | Wilinckx | ibot: bzfquery u212-239-170-56.adsl.pi.be:5155 |
| 12:15:10 | | Wilinckx: No Players |
| 12:15:13 | Wilinckx | ha |
| 12:15:16 | Wilinckx | so now it works |
| 12:15:45 | BZFlag | 166.70.15.250 |
| 12:16:00 | Wilinckx | ? |
| 12:16:04 | BZFlag | no 66 |
| 12:16:08 | Wilinckx | whaaat? |
| 12:16:12 | Wilinckx | damned |
| 12:16:18 | Wilinckx | ah ok |
| 12:16:56 | Wilinckx | ? |
| 12:17:03 | BZFlag | ibot: bzfquery u212-239-170-56.adsl.pi.be:5155 |
| 12:17:03 | | BZFlag: could not connect to u212-239-170-56.adsl.pi.be:5155 |
| 12:17:20 | Wilinckx | ok, it's 166 |
| 12:17:21 | Wilinckx | ok |
| 12:17:26 | Wilinckx | ibot: bzfquery u212-239-170-56.adsl.pi.be:5155 |
| 12:17:27 | | Wilinckx: No Players |
| 12:17:31 | Wilinckx | yes!!! |
| 12:17:35 | BZFlag | ibot: bzfquery 212.239.170.56:5155 |
| 12:17:37 | | BZFlag: No Players |
| 12:17:59 | Wilinckx | but the command |
| 12:18:00 | Wilinckx | wget 166.70.15.250:5156 |
| 12:18:03 | Wilinckx | still don't work... |
| 12:18:15 | Wilinckx | and by a friend who i do ssh to, it works |
| 12:18:46 | BZFlag | I use: lynx -source http://166.70.15.250:5156/ |
| 12:19:08 | BZFlag | so you are firewalled for outgoing access. |
| 12:19:13 | Wilinckx | HTTP request sent; waiting for response. |
| 12:19:14 | Wilinckx | Alert!: Unexpected network read error; connection aborted. |
| 12:19:14 | Wilinckx | Can't Access `http://166.70.15.250:5156/' |
| 12:19:14 | Wilinckx | Alert!: Unable to access document. |
| 12:19:20 | Wilinckx | no, for incoming access |
| 12:19:38 | BZFlag | no, incoming is fine as ibot can connect to your server. |
| 12:19:51 | Wilinckx | I can connect to everywere (expect 166.70.15.250:5156 and gmx), but nobody can connect to me, xpect when I open ports (what I did now) |
| 12:20:02 | BZFlag | outgoing (from you) is blocked. bzfs cannot get out to the list server. |
| 12:20:20 | Wilinckx | how do you mean? |
| 12:20:24 | Wilinckx | ah yes |
| 12:20:29 | Wilinckx | but I can connect to everywere |
| 12:20:31 | BZFlag | your wget or lynx should work. |
| 12:20:31 | Wilinckx | to every game server |
| 12:20:33 | Wilinckx | to every site |
| 12:20:39 | Wilinckx | expect 166.70.15.250:5156 |
| 12:20:47 | Wilinckx | and gmx |
| 12:20:56 | BZFlag | try http://rikers.org/ |
| 12:21:36 | Wilinckx | request sent... |
| 12:21:37 | BZFlag | and if that works then http://rikers.org:5156/ |
| 12:21:47 | Wilinckx | hm, it don't work :-( |
| 12:22:00 | Wilinckx | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... |
| 12:22:04 | BZFlag | so you can't get to 166.70.15.250 at all it looks like. |
| 12:22:09 | Wilinckx | I can ping it |
| 12:22:21 | Wilinckx | 64 bytes from 166.70.15.250: icmp_seq=0 ttl=44 time=200.2 ms |
| 12:22:29 | Wilinckx | oh yes, that's udp |
| 12:22:53 | Wilinckx | but 15 minuts ago, it workes perfect |
| 12:23:24 | Wilinckx | worked i mean |
| 12:24:17 | BZFlag | hmm. |
| 12:24:22 | BZFlag | well I really must sleep. |
| 12:24:25 | BZFlag | good luck! |
| 12:24:28 | Wilinckx | thx |
| 12:24:29 | Wilinckx | good night |
| 12:26:01 | Wilinckx | is goin to use forwarding |
| 12:27:00 | Wilinckx | (server stopped) |
| 12:27:47 | Wilinckx | (server started)... <-- ok, I'll stop the debug info now... |
| 13:30:42 | Chestal | something is still wrong withthe list server Ithink |
| 13:30:54 | Wilinckx | yeah, I also think so |
| 13:31:02 | Wilinckx | And there is something wrong with my f* internet connection |
| 13:31:44 | sussudio | insecure windoze boxes are fun |
| 13:32:07 | Wilinckx | I think my provider runs windows :-( |
| 13:32:14 | Wilinckx | that's why I cant ping www.google.com |
| 13:32:16 | Wilinckx | and others |
| 13:32:17 | sussudio | doug runs windoze |
| 13:34:50 | doughecka | ? |
| 13:34:54 | doughecka | how do ye know? |
| 13:35:00 | doughecka | Mr. Spam |
| 13:35:20 | doughecka | @#$#^%^ |
| 13:35:23 | doughecka | :P |
| 13:35:29 | doughecka | finds sussudio's ip |
| 13:37:33 | | yes, doughecka? |
| 13:37:33 | doughecka | ibot |
| 13:37:40 | doughecka | ibot nslookup d511320a.cable.wanadoo.nl |
| 13:37:41 | | d511320a.cable.wanadoo.nl is 213.17.50.10 |
| 13:37:44 | doughecka | yay |
| 13:37:53 | sussudio | it still won't work |
| 13:38:02 | | hmmm... firewall is This is a form of Internet security that stands between a private network and the Internet. It is like a wall in that it can prevent unwanted traffic from passing either way. Some firewalls have proxy functions built in. In fact, the distinction between a firewall and a proxy is often blurry. Add in the differences and similarities between a firewall and packet-filtering router and you've got one big ball of confusion. True firewalls generally support packet-filtering, proprietary application filtering, and some proxy functions. |
| 13:38:02 | doughecka | firewall? |
| 13:38:10 | doughecka | I am DMZ on my firewall |
| 13:38:16 | doughecka | so it annoys me... |
| 13:38:18 | doughecka | :) |
| 13:38:42 | sussudio | Doobedoo |
| 13:38:50 | doughecka | hah |
| 13:40:11 | Wilinckx | I'm using ip forwarding now, and my bzflag server is still not on the list :-( |
| 13:41:10 | sussudio | well doug's ports are wide open |
| 13:42:07 | Chestal | looks like the lsit server has dns issues |
| 13:42:10 | Wilinckx | WTF??? |
| 13:42:16 | Wilinckx | I can't ping www.google.com |
| 13:42:18 | Chestal | Wili: it might work when you use -publicaddr with your ip, not your hostname |
| 13:42:26 | Wilinckx | I can't ping 216.239.53.101 (=the ip) |
| 13:42:32 | Wilinckx | but everyone else can! |
| 13:42:41 | Wilinckx | Chestal: aah. thx. |
| 13:42:43 | Wilinckx | I tri :-) |
| 13:42:44 | doughecka | hmm |
| 13:42:45 | Wilinckx | try i mean |
| 13:42:50 | doughecka | Wilinckx: you use linux? |
| 13:42:50 | Chestal | with -d -d -d you shoudl see a lien ADD ... |
| 13:42:56 | Chestal | and then a connecgion attempt from the lsit serv |
| 13:43:03 | Chestal | accept() from 166.70.15.250:33031 |
| 13:43:19 | Wilinckx | JAAAAH |
| 13:43:22 | Wilinckx | yes yes yes! |
| 13:43:24 | Wilinckx | thx thx htx! |
| 13:43:25 | doughecka | darn |
| 13:43:48 | doughecka | wonders who uses windows in here |
| 13:44:05 | Wilinckx | It works! |
| 13:44:08 | Wilinckx | it is in the list server! |
| 13:44:09 | Wilinckx | yeah yeah yeah! |
| 13:44:13 | Wilinckx | many thx! |
| 13:44:16 | | No, damit!!! |
| 13:44:16 | sussudio | ibot rejoice |
| 13:44:16 | doughecka | lol |
| 13:44:23 | Wilinckx | lol |
| 13:44:44 | Wilinckx | hahaha. <doughecka> lol <ibot> No, damit! |
| 13:45:18 | doughecka | :) |
| 13:45:32 | Wilinckx | hehe. |
| 13:45:35 | Wilinckx | Now get a nice map... |
| 13:45:37 | Wilinckx | tralalala |
| 13:45:41 | Wilinckx | is happy today :-) |
| 13:46:02 | Wilinckx | haa shit, my internet connection - i mean the dns of my provider still don't work this hour :-( |
| 13:46:04 | sussudio | how about spirals |
| 13:46:15 | sussudio | :-| |
| 13:46:52 | doughecka | yea!! |
| 13:46:54 | doughecka | use spirals |
| 13:47:02 | doughecka | goto stats.bzflag.org and download them |
| 13:47:07 | Wilinckx | spirals? |
| 13:47:15 | doughecka | my map |
| 13:47:20 | sussudio | http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/record/02rs/HR256.htm |
| 13:47:20 | doughecka | and sussudio's favorite map |
| 13:47:28 | Wilinckx | aah. the map |
| 13:47:30 | Wilinckx | :-) |
| 13:47:37 | doughecka | hahahhaa |
| 13:47:43 | doughecka | sussudio!! thats FUNNY! |
| 13:47:59 | sussudio | umm it would be funny if someone didnt actually propose it |
| 13:48:06 | doughecka | lol |
| 13:48:07 | sussudio | wonders what they put in the water in KY |
| 13:48:19 | doughecka | submarines |
| 13:48:20 | sussudio | except subs |
| 13:48:23 | doughecka | ack |
| 13:48:27 | doughecka | boats |
| 13:51:18 | sussudio | burps |
| 13:51:23 | sussudio | good bitterballen |
| 14:07:31 | doughecka | hohoho |
| 14:07:49 | doughecka | ibot nslookup tethys.cs.uni-magdeburg.de |
| 14:07:49 | | tethys.cs.uni-magdeburg.de is 141.44.29.28 |
| 14:08:57 | doughecka | sussudio: done |
| 14:09:26 | akira_ | ach ihr seid das |
| 14:09:33 | doughecka | ? |
| 14:09:40 | doughecka | ibot x de en ach ihr seid das |
| 14:09:46 | | doughecka: oh you are that |
| 14:09:50 | akira_ | i got some stupid message on my screen |
| 14:09:53 | doughecka | oh? |
| 14:10:08 | doughecka | rolls on the floor laughing |
| 14:10:13 | akira_ | and because you look for my computer -> |
| 14:10:31 | akira_ | exactly |
| 14:10:59 | akira_ | but its not "i rulez" ..its "me rulez" ... |
| 14:11:31 | chsh[] | invites doug to #bzn00bs |
| 14:11:44 | doughecka | :) |
| 14:11:49 | chsh[] | :) |
| 14:12:20 | doughecka | haha |
| 14:14:00 | akira_ | its enough, whoever do this ... |
| 14:14:04 | | i don't know, chsh[] |
| 14:14:04 | chsh[] | ibot #bzn00bs is where people like captain_proton and bzdoug hang out |
| 14:14:11 | doughecka | haha |
| 14:14:14 | | wish i knew, chsh[] |
| 14:14:14 | chsh[] | ibot bzn00bs is where people like captain_proton and bzdoug hang out |
| 14:14:18 | chsh[] | doh |
| 14:14:22 | | chsh[]: huh? |
| 14:14:22 | chsh[] | ibot bznoobs |
| 14:14:28 | | chsh[]: excuse me? |
| 14:14:28 | chsh[] | ibot bzn00bs |
| 14:14:33 | chsh[] | bah, farging ibot |
| 14:14:45 | chsh[] | who named it that anyway? sounds like something Apple would write... |
| 14:15:41 | doughecka | hey.... |
| 14:15:46 | doughecka | YOU COME BACK HERE NOW! |
| 14:16:00 | sussudio | hey guess what..... IRC has nothing to do with netbios popups |
| 14:16:06 | doughecka | yea |
| 14:16:07 | sussudio | so keep on poppin |
| 14:16:07 | doughecka | ... |
| 14:16:41 | chsh[] | hahaha |
| 14:16:55 | chsh[] | who thought that? |
| 14:17:04 | doughecka | woo |
| 14:17:07 | doughecka | its working! |
| 14:17:34 | sussudio | i'm bad. |
| 14:17:57 | doughecka | its still goin |
| 14:18:07 | doughecka | I sent "SPAM" |
| 14:18:11 | doughecka | over and over |
| 14:18:40 | sussudio | net send 141.44.29.28 "The medics found a Lesbian porno video in the VCR and the TV was positioned on a table in front of the bed. The lobster was found in the kitchen garbage can wrapped in a paper bag. Traces of Ms. Crawford's DNA were found on the lobster along with pubic hairs that had wedged themselves between the lobster tail joints. The lobster's face was lightly burned with the same fuel used in lighters. The lobster's digestive track and c |
| 14:18:44 | sussudio | think big |
| 14:18:55 | doughecka | lol |
| 14:19:47 | doughecka | is away |
| 14:43:03 | chsh[] | sussudio> where is that from? |
| 14:43:23 | sussudio | chsh[]: i did a google search on 'crapflood' |
| 14:46:02 | chsh[] | crapflood? |
| 14:46:26 | sussudio | yes |
| 14:47:00 | chsh[] | lol |
| 14:47:27 | sussudio | the art of trolling with gross message posts |
| 14:47:38 | sussudio | see also goatse.cx |
| 14:47:57 | sussudio | http://slashcode.com/~Feces%20Thrower/journal/ |
| 14:48:14 | akira_ | ibot bzflist |
| 14:48:14 | | akira_: 24.194.98.76:5155(8) 68.67.196.6:5155(1) bzflag-1.games.internode.on.net:5155(11) darknet.dk:5155(1) 209.152.106.94:5164(4) |
| 14:54:02 | doughecka | got his new glasses |
| 14:54:27 | akira_ | whoever send me win2k messenges because the messenger service of this crappy win2k is on .. please let it be |
| 15:22:43 | bomber | hello hello |
| 15:23:40 | Chestal | hi bomber |
| 15:27:39 | bomber | Pinguin hast du schon besseren treiber gefunden ? |
| 15:29:25 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 15:29:25 | bomber | ibot ducati? |
| 15:29:27 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 15:34:13 | akira_ | bomber: zocken? |
| 15:37:05 | bomber | los gehts :o) |
| 15:38:25 | bomber | akira: ich warte :o) |
| 15:42:47 | akira_ | irgendson trottel schickt mir hier dauernmessages ueber den verkackten messenger service von win2k |
| 15:43:01 | akira_ | ibot bzflist |
| 15:43:01 | | akira_: 24.194.98.76:5155(4) bzflag-1.games.internode.on.net:5155(11) darknet.dk:5155(1) bzbody.dedicatedpenguin.com:5155(5) 209.152.106.94:5164(8) |
| 15:43:11 | akira_ | bomber: wo biste denn? |
| 15:57:32 | [BZ]Ruudi | hi |
| 16:09:44 | blackhound | hullo |
| 16:29:08 | bzdougg | these 3D glasses are cool |
| 16:34:14 | bomber | good game akira |
| 16:34:18 | bomber | bye |
| 16:34:51 | akira_ | thanx bomber |
| 16:34:54 | akira_ | i m getting better |
| 16:35:19 | bomber | bye to all |
| 16:35:23 | akira_ | cya |
| 17:16:06 | bzdougg | sussudio: oh boy |
| 17:16:13 | sussudio | http://www.theregister.co.uk/media/911.jpg |
| 17:16:14 | bzdougg | I just scanned my local netowkr |
| 17:16:17 | bzdougg | er |
| 17:16:27 | bzdougg | my local DSL subnet... |
| 17:16:32 | bzdougg | and I found one puter |
| 17:16:35 | chsh[] | ROFL |
| 17:16:46 | bzdougg | with it open to messages |
| 17:16:47 | bzdougg | :) |
| 17:16:49 | bzdougg | soo... |
| 17:17:03 | bzdougg | I messaged him about getting a firewall |
| 17:17:14 | sussudio | can anyone see where the hell the PSU in that pic is? |
| 17:18:24 | sussudio | nice peer |
| 17:18:26 | doughecka | ? |
| 17:18:29 | doughecka | woo |
| 17:18:51 | doughecka | so net sends port is 135? |
| 17:18:55 | doughecka | hopefully... |
| 17:19:02 | doughecka | woo |
| 17:19:06 | doughecka | 45 hosts with open net send ports... |
| 17:19:08 | doughecka | :) |
| 17:19:10 | doughecka | snickers and starts entering them in |
| 17:21:14 | captain_proton | bwahaha |
| 17:21:29 | captain_proton | i just figured out all the hardware for my drive array project |
| 17:22:04 | doughecka | oh? |
| 17:22:09 | sussudio | AH HAH! |
| 17:22:13 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 17:22:14 | sussudio | i've found a pic of doug |
| 17:22:14 | sussudio | http://www.theregister.co.uk/media/909.jpg |
| 17:22:44 | captain_proton | one chip between each drive and a scsi bus, another chip between pairs of scsi busses and the pci bus |
| 17:23:18 | captain_proton | unless i'm sorely mistaken, the pci bus supports 128 devices |
| 17:23:20 | captain_proton | sooooo |
| 17:23:41 | doughecka | ick |
| 17:23:44 | doughecka | only 128? |
| 17:23:49 | doughecka | get firewire |
| 17:23:55 | captain_proton | i only need 128 |
| 17:24:00 | doughecka | ah |
| 17:24:08 | captain_proton | because i can cram 30 drives onto -each- pci device |
| 17:24:11 | doughecka | so your gonna do scsi? |
| 17:24:18 | captain_proton | its sort of scsi |
| 17:24:27 | doughecka | IDE2SCSI2PCI2LEEENOX |
| 17:24:30 | captain_proton | the drives themselves are ide, and i found a small little (cheap) chip that converts |
| 17:24:42 | doughecka | slick |
| 17:24:45 | doughecka | ok |
| 17:24:51 | doughecka | this is what I am sending out |
| 17:24:53 | doughecka | YOUR COMPUTER IS OPEN TO SPAM! |
| 17:24:53 | doughecka | http://slashdot.org/articles/02/10/17/204235.shtml?tid=172 |
| 17:24:53 | doughecka | read that and learn how to fix it! |
| 17:24:56 | doughecka | :P |
| 17:25:02 | doughecka | I have 45 to do |
| 17:25:20 | captain_proton | not only is it open to spam, if they've got netbios open on tcp they're in much bigger trouble |
| 17:25:34 | sussudio | why don't you put your name and address there too..... saves the feds some work when they come for the big bad "hacker" |
| 17:25:48 | sussudio | wasnt it called the patriot act |
| 17:26:00 | sussudio | put you in pound-in-the-ass prison for 30 yeaaaahs |
| 17:26:16 | doughecka | yea |
| 17:26:23 | sussudio | try explaining the difference between net send and hacking to a 65 year old judge |
| 17:26:38 | doughecka | call it instant messageing |
| 17:27:07 | doughecka | glances at akira_ |
| 17:27:08 | sussudio | big rufus does instant messaging in sing sing |
| 17:27:23 | captain_proton | hahaha, the devicenet-usa web page is in japanese |
| 17:27:44 | akira_ | doughecka: i couldnt do anything here .. i am not the admin |
| 17:27:57 | akira_ | so let it be |
| 17:28:04 | akira_ | i am not amused |
| 17:28:06 | doughecka | woo |
| 17:28:12 | sussudio | captain_proton: is it like a lot of jibberish with the words "SOLDIER BOY" inbetween? |
| 17:28:21 | doughecka | lol |
| 17:28:25 | doughecka | akira_:? |
| 17:28:45 | akira_ | or sussido |
| 17:28:47 | akira_ | whoever |
| 17:28:52 | akira_ | just let it be |
| 17:28:54 | doughecka | it aint me |
| 17:29:01 | captain_proton | sussudio: i dunno, its written in japanese |
| 17:29:21 | sussudio | they have moroccan and turkish tv channels here.... they talk stuff like "GAHJFF BHAAABJAA MOO PFAA JFKDFD internet connection GHAAA ALLAH MEWS" |
| 17:29:26 | doughecka | chsh[]: you use windows? |
| 17:29:34 | doughecka | sussudio: haha |
| 17:30:05 | sussudio | i think there's also no turkish for "welfare check" |
| 17:30:55 | doughecka | plays with his shutter glasses |
| 17:30:59 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:31:07 | doughecka | bzflag barfs with 3d glasses |
| 17:31:13 | doughecka | only one view piont |
| 17:31:15 | doughecka | :( |
| 17:31:32 | doughecka | Mayhem... you use windows? |
| 17:31:45 | Mayhem | nope, linux (Debian) :) |
| 17:31:50 | doughecka | bummer |
| 17:32:00 | Mayhem | I have *in the past* used windows... |
| 17:32:07 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:32:13 | Mayhem | why? |
| 17:32:16 | captain_proton | doughecka: you mean shutter glasses? |
| 17:32:23 | doughecka | captain_proton: yes |
| 17:32:40 | doughecka | Mayhem: nothin... |
| 17:32:58 | doughecka | captain_proton: how hard would it be to fix it? |
| 17:33:00 | captain_proton | ah, i could probably hack 1.8 for active stereo, but i can't do that without a pair of shutter glasses that work in linux - donations welcome ;) |
| 17:33:00 | Mayhem | I often do tech support for windows... |
| 17:33:08 | doughecka | hmm |
| 17:33:31 | doughecka | does bzflag 1.8 work with system 3d? |
| 17:33:35 | sussudio | any idea why artsd only gives me 8 bit mono sound in bzflag? |
| 17:33:37 | akira_ | actually you could do it without shutterglasses :) |
| 17:33:38 | Mayhem | shutter glasses? you talking bout 3d viewing? |
| 17:33:39 | doughecka | or just the builtin anaglph? |
| 17:33:43 | doughecka | yea |
| 17:33:48 | doughecka | akira_? |
| 17:33:53 | akira_ | anaglyph |
| 17:33:54 | captain_proton | doughecka: what is system 3d? |
| 17:34:02 | akira_ | the projection is the same |
| 17:34:02 | captain_proton | akira_: i've already done anaglyph |
| 17:34:05 | doughecka | like the system does the 3d stuff |
| 17:34:11 | doughecka | drivers |
| 17:34:18 | akira_ | captain_proton: so you dont have to hack the stuff right |
| 17:34:19 | doughecka | not builtin shutter |
| 17:34:31 | captain_proton | akira_: anaglyph is passive, i'd need to hack it for active stereo |
| 17:34:36 | doughecka | yea! |
| 17:34:46 | doughecka | but I was talking about 1.7 |
| 17:34:48 | doughecka | not 1.8 |
| 17:34:51 | captain_proton | ie create a 'pattern' field for each viewport that tells it which frame it ought to draw in |
| 17:34:54 | doughecka | 1.8 would work.. maybe |
| 17:34:55 | captain_proton | doughecka: bah @ 1.7 |
| 17:35:01 | doughecka | pff |
| 17:35:10 | doughecka | finds his 1.8 copy and tries it |
| 17:35:17 | captain_proton | doughecka: it won't work |
| 17:35:21 | doughecka | oh? |
| 17:35:29 | doughecka | it has anaplph... |
| 17:35:34 | captain_proton | shutter glasses require each eye to be rendered in separate frames |
| 17:35:41 | doughecka | yea |
| 17:35:43 | captain_proton | anaglyph renders both eyes in the same frame |
| 17:35:59 | doughecka | hmm, 1.8 uses Z buffer no? |
| 17:36:43 | captain_proton | 'course |
| 17:36:49 | doughecka | ok... |
| 17:37:57 | doughecka | brb |
| 17:38:02 | doughecka | gonna try p2501 :) |
| 17:40:43 | doughecka | ick |
| 17:40:50 | doughecka | p2501 dont work |
| 17:41:31 | doughecka | well |
| 17:41:34 | doughecka | it DID |
| 17:41:38 | doughecka | just not very well |
| 17:42:32 | captain_proton | argg, the datasheet for the AIC7899 sucks |
| 17:42:35 | captain_proton | no technical information |
| 17:43:39 | doughecka | what? |
| 17:43:43 | doughecka | no 1.8 servers? |
| 17:43:45 | doughecka | bah |
| 17:43:59 | doughecka | 1.8 doesnt crash with shutter on |
| 17:44:03 | doughecka | but I need to test it |
| 17:44:07 | captain_proton | find me a real datasheet for the AIC7899 and i'll start a 1.8 server ;) |
| 17:44:13 | Mayhem | hmm, wouldn't mind playing 1.8... |
| 17:45:01 | doughecka | start one anyway |
| 17:46:04 | captain_proton | woo, both the controller and the converter chip use LVD |
| 17:46:12 | captain_proton | so i can basically ignore all EMI |
| 17:46:37 | doughecka | ick |
| 17:47:22 | captain_proton | hmm, seems a shame to waste this chip on a 32-bit pci bus |
| 17:47:26 | captain_proton | but oh well |
| 17:47:43 | bzdouggg | ick |
| 17:47:53 | bzdouggg | bzflag froze it up again |
| 17:47:56 | bzdouggg | 1.8 dont work |
| 17:48:00 | bzdouggg | but the menus do |
| 17:48:03 | bzdouggg | shrugs |
| 17:48:50 | captain_proton | leaves |
| 17:50:34 | bzdougg | considers installing windows 98 |
| 17:50:51 | Mayhem | noooo, don't do it! for the sake of humanity! ;) |
| 17:50:59 | bzdougg | well |
| 17:51:13 | bzdougg | my glasses only work fully under 98 |
| 17:51:18 | bzdougg | XP has problems |
| 17:51:28 | Mayhem | you're telling me! |
| 17:51:39 | Mayhem | what sort of glasses? |
| 17:51:43 | bzdougg | shutter |
| 17:51:49 | Mayhem | make/model etc |
| 17:51:51 | bzdougg | else revalator |
| 17:51:55 | bzdougg | er |
| 17:52:07 | bzdougg | ELSA 3D revelator |
| 17:52:27 | bzdougg | wired |
| 17:52:45 | bzdougg | wonders if 98 will see his XP partition |
| 17:53:00 | Mayhem | what filesystem under XP? NTFS? |
| 17:53:05 | bzdougg | checkin |
| 17:53:21 | bzdougg | noo |
| 17:53:26 | bzdougg | its NTFS... |
| 17:53:28 | bzdougg | bah |
| 17:53:41 | bzdougg | looks for another harddrive |
| 17:54:32 | bzdougg | is it possible to change NTFS to FAT? |
| 17:55:59 | Mayhem | hmm. wouldn't want to try it. why for anyway? bzflag isn't that big an install :) |
| 17:56:11 | bzdougg | for other games |
| 17:56:23 | bzdougg | bzflag is will never work for glasses |
| 17:56:32 | bzdougg | but my other games have problems too |
| 17:56:44 | sussudio | What's red and orange and looks good on hippies? |
| 17:58:14 | Mayhem | umm, sussudio? |
| 17:58:31 | sussudio | no |
| 17:58:53 | Mayhem | I give up then |
| 17:59:07 | sussudio | fire. |
| 17:59:28 | bzdougg | sighs and shakes his head |
| 18:00:10 | bzdougg | oooh |
| 18:00:20 | bzdougg | partition magic can convert partitions |
| 18:00:43 | sussudio | you don't say |
| 18:00:51 | bzdougg | I do! |
| 18:02:49 | sussudio | dude |
| 18:03:08 | sussudio | there's some fucked up people on everything2 |
| 18:05:26 | Mayhem | bzdougg: the revelator is direct3d only? |
| 18:05:36 | bzdougg | no |
| 18:05:50 | bzdougg | it works on ALL nvidia cards |
| 18:06:00 | bzdougg | and opengl/directX |
| 18:06:03 | bzdougg | :) |
| 18:06:10 | bzdougg | so it works with nearly all games |
| 18:06:16 | bzdougg | but... |
| 18:06:19 | bzdougg | its not hardware |
| 18:06:27 | bzdougg | its also software drivers adn suff |
| 18:06:44 | Mayhem | yeah, doing a bit of reading bout it... |
| 18:06:49 | bzdougg | heh |
| 18:06:55 | Mayhem | and you don't think it'll work with bz? |
| 18:07:05 | bzdougg | nope |
| 18:07:13 | bzdougg | bz is a hacked up mess of code |
| 18:07:23 | Mayhem | yeah.... |
| 18:07:24 | bzdougg | it needs some things added/fixed before it will work |
| 18:08:00 | Mayhem | does the software need to support a certain display type... |
| 18:08:08 | Mayhem | thought it was software independant |
| 18:08:23 | bzdougg | hmm |
| 18:08:37 | bzdougg | nooo.... all you need is a monitor that can do 100 hz or higher |
| 18:10:01 | bzdougg | http://www.stereo3d.com/news/news0062.html |
| 18:15:47 | Mayhem | hmm, looks like you got a bit of work ahead of you... cool stuff though when it works |
| 18:15:57 | bzdougg | yup |
| 18:18:35 | sussudio | NARF! |
| 18:19:36 | chsh[] | NARF? |
| 18:19:48 | bzdougg | FARF HE SAY! NARF! |
| 18:20:00 | sussudio | ZOIT! |
| 18:20:07 | chsh[] | Poit |
| 18:25:45 | sussudio | what has 4 legs and 1 arm? |
| 18:25:57 | bzdougg | sussudio? |
| 18:26:02 | sussudio | no |
| 18:26:12 | bzdougg | yo momma |
| 18:26:17 | sussudio | no |
| 18:26:22 | bzdougg | I give up |
| 18:26:40 | sussudio | a doberman in nsync's dressing room (after i release it) |
| 18:26:57 | bzdougg | grins |
| 18:48:39 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 18:48:39 | prodan | ibot ducati |
| 18:48:40 | bzbot | root (R): 18 (36-18). jolt (R): -20 (34-54). Mayhem (G): -11 (48-59). VBD950 (G): -11 (5-16). akira (R): 0 (0-0). |
| 19:44:06 | | patlabor221 was last seen on #bzflag 7 days, 20 hours, 50 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying: k [Thu Oct 10 16:53:17 2002] |
| 19:44:06 | bzdougg | ibot seen patlabor221 |
| 19:44:12 | bzdougg | um |
| 19:44:21 | | I haven't seen 'captainnopants', bzdougg |
| 19:44:21 | bzdougg | ibot seen captainnopants |
| 19:44:28 | | PatLAbor221 was last seen on #bzflag 7 days, 20 hours, 51 minutes and 11 seconds ago, saying: k [Thu Oct 10 16:53:17 2002] |
| 19:44:28 | bzdougg | ibot seen PatLAbor221 |
| 19:44:36 | | I haven't seen 'MrnoPants', bzdougg |
| 19:44:36 | bzdougg | ibot seen MrnoPants |
| 19:44:47 | | swine was last seen on #bzflag 24 days, 5 hours, 35 minutes and 29 seconds ago, saying: oink [Tue Sep 24 08:09:18 2002] |
| 19:44:47 | bzdougg | ibot seen swine |
| 20:04:38 | akira | aaah .. the webinterface |
| 20:04:41 | akira | nice to know |
| 20:06:09 | akira_ | bye all |
| 20:13:19 | bzdougg | yawns |
| 20:14:19 | bzdougg | looks out the window and sees a pig flaping past |
| 20:16:03 | bzdougg | stares at cell |
| 20:18:11 | bzdougg | sees a pig flap past |
| 20:20:35 | Perfect_Why_the_ | shit i have to go to the uni party, forgot that almost, im away |
| 20:26:31 | bzdougg | waits for drivers to download |
| 20:26:41 | bzdougg | punches ibot |
| 20:26:44 | | bzdougg: huh? |
| 20:26:44 | bzdougg | ibot ouch |
| 20:26:48 | bzdougg | hmm |
| 20:26:50 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples lifeless. |
| 20:26:50 | bzdougg | ibot die |
| 20:26:55 | bzdougg | ouch |
| 20:27:03 | bzdougg | shoots ibot |
| 20:27:05 | bzdougg | bot die |
| 20:27:17 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples lifeless. |
| 20:27:17 | bzdougg | ibot die |
| 20:27:20 | | goodbye, bzdougg. |
| 20:27:20 | bzdougg | ibot part #bzflag |
| 20:27:38 | captain_proton | kicks bzdougg in the head |
| 20:28:45 | bzdougg | wonders why |
| 20:29:06 | bzdougg | pulls the red tab |
| 20:29:13 | bzdougg | ah better |
| 20:30:12 | bzdougg | swings his ion cannon at captain_proton |
| 20:30:36 | captain_proton | bzdougg: go find yourself something useful to do, right now you're just being dumb |
| 20:31:18 | bzdougg | is currently waiting for drivers to download |
| 20:31:31 | bzdougg | ook 11 min left |
| 20:31:34 | captain_proton | go outside |
| 20:31:43 | bzdougg | cant |
| 20:31:46 | bzdougg | its snowing |
| 20:32:20 | bzdougg | watches captain_proton check kentuckys weather |
| 20:33:26 | Mayhem | thinks bzdougg must me *really* bored |
| 20:33:41 | captain_proton | bzdougg: um, why does that keep you from going outside? |
| 20:33:52 | Mayhem | ahh, a good few hours on ducati gets the blood pumping |
| 20:33:57 | bzdougg | throws a snow ball at Mayhem |
| 20:34:09 | bzdougg | captain_proton: cold |
| 20:34:23 | Mayhem | really, REALLY bored! |
| 20:34:33 | bzdougg | hmm, these shutter glasses are polorized |
| 20:34:47 | bzdougg | makes a snow man |
| 20:34:48 | Mayhem | yeah, lcd does that |
| 20:34:53 | bzdougg | yup |
| 20:35:00 | Mayhem | is it a 3d snowman |
| 20:35:10 | bzdougg | wonders how much polorizing his monitor would cost |
| 20:35:14 | | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 20:35:14 | Mayhem | ibot ducati |
| 20:35:15 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 20:35:23 | Mayhem | awww |
| 20:35:38 | bzdougg | ibot bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 20:35:39 | | bzdougg: No Players |
| 20:35:42 | captain_proton | what would a polarizing monitor do? |
| 20:35:45 | bzdougg | slick huh? |
| 20:36:09 | Mayhem | bots are fun |
| 20:36:13 | bzdougg | hehe |
| 20:36:17 | bzdougg | I have a bzbot... |
| 20:36:21 | Mayhem | wonder why its not on the list server |
| 20:36:31 | bzdougg | a bzbot that plays good ducati |
| 20:36:32 | bzdougg | :) |
| 20:36:37 | bzdougg | its VERY good |
| 20:36:42 | bzdougg | till you get ST |
| 20:36:50 | bzdougg | then its dumber than a rock |
| 20:36:54 | Mayhem | I hate playing bots in bz...they piss me off |
| 20:37:05 | bzdougg | oh? |
| 20:37:07 | bzdougg | why? |
| 20:37:12 | bzdougg | what bot? |
| 20:37:12 | captain_proton | bzdougg: ugh, stop bragging about other people's work |
| 20:37:18 | Mayhem | cause I know I can never have that good reflexes or judgement |
| 20:37:20 | bzdougg | the bzflag -solo one is dumb |
| 20:37:23 | bzdougg | ah |
| 20:37:27 | bzdougg | ca |
| 20:37:30 | Mayhem | have you played against chestals? |
| 20:37:33 | bzdougg | cap: I aint! |
| 20:37:40 | captain_proton | Mayhem: 'his bot' is chestal's |
| 20:37:43 | bzdougg | mayhem, thats the one I am talking about |
| 20:37:58 | Mayhem | thats the one I hate |
| 20:38:14 | captain_proton | its not that good |
| 20:38:24 | bzdougg | its VERY good |
| 20:38:26 | Mayhem | it dodges just enough so you miss...then predicts you perfectly |
| 20:38:27 | captain_proton | if you can split your shots right and dodge, its beatable |
| 20:38:27 | bzdougg | snickers |
| 20:38:39 | bzdougg | yea |
| 20:38:41 | bzdougg | IF |
| 20:38:54 | bzdougg | whoop |
| 20:38:54 | captain_proton | which isn't that hard to do, once you get the hang of it |
| 20:38:54 | Mayhem | yeah, but it still kicks my ass |
| 20:39:01 | bzdougg | its done installin |
| 20:39:11 | bzdougg | poof |
| 20:39:39 | Mayhem | yeah, but then you've learned to counteract a bot by using a certain tactic...not much use for real life practice |
| 20:39:46 | bzdouggg | yea |
| 20:39:57 | bzdouggg | we need a REAL bot that can learn what certain players do... |
| 20:39:58 | bzdouggg | sorta |
| 20:39:59 | Mayhem | no human plays like that |
| 20:40:05 | bzdouggg | and counter act them |
| 20:40:14 | bzdouggg | and also make it harder for the bot to play |
| 20:40:18 | bzdouggg | like slow down input |
| 20:40:20 | Mayhem | id rather just play humans... cause thoy make mistakes! |
| 20:40:22 | bzdouggg | or out put |
| 20:40:25 | bzdouggg | hheheheheh |
| 20:40:26 | bzdouggg | :) |
| 20:40:27 | bzdouggg | lol |
| 20:40:31 | bzdouggg | grins |
| 20:40:55 | Mayhem | isn't that a rule of battle - first to make a mistake loses? |
| 20:41:09 | bzdouggg | hm |
| 20:42:28 | Mayhem | anyway, im going. Time for food. |
| 20:42:49 | Mayhem | good luck with the glasses |
| 20:43:03 | bzflag | oops |
| 20:43:27 | captain_proton | how many farking clients do you need here doug? |
| 20:43:52 | bzdougggggg | 2 |
| 20:44:18 | captain_proton | why? |
| 20:44:27 | bzdougggggg | one for each compuer |
| 20:44:37 | captain_proton | you can only sit at one at a time, buddy |
| 20:44:43 | captain_proton | i know thats a bit of a shock |
| 20:44:46 | bzdougggggg | shrugs |
| 20:44:58 | bzdougggggg | I dont farking care |
| 20:45:02 | bzdougggggg | reboots |
| 20:45:28 | bzdouggg | grins |
| 20:45:36 | bzdouggg | I need to for this resean... |
| 20:45:38 | bzdouggg | :) |
| 20:45:44 | bzdouggg | whens 1 rebooting |
| 20:45:53 | bzdouggg | I can still monitor what people are saying |
| 20:45:55 | captain_proton | so why even log in on the other? |
| 20:46:25 | bzdouggg | cuz this one is way far away |
| 20:46:54 | captain_proton | kids and IRC: a dangerous addiction |
| 20:47:25 | bzdouggg | lol |
| 20:47:37 | BZDOUGGGG | lol |
| 20:47:52 | BZDOUGGGG | ook |
| 20:48:00 | BZDOUGGGG | I got my stereo drivers installed |
| 20:50:34 | BZDOUGGGG | ook |
| 20:50:34 | | BZDOUGGGG: huh? |
| 20:50:35 | BZDOUGGGG | ibot ook |
| 20:50:38 | BZDOUGGGG | hrm |
| 20:50:45 | | BZDOUGGGG: what? |
| 20:50:45 | BZDOUGGGG | ibot pooky |
| 20:50:50 | | BZDOUGGGG: excuse me? |
| 20:50:50 | BZDOUGGGG | ibot pook |
| 20:50:59 | BZDOUGGGG | oh come on! |
| 20:53:34 | BZDOUGGGG | shrugs |
| 20:55:27 | bzdouggg | heya bzbzbzbzbzbzflag! |
| 20:57:22 | captain_proton | sign |
| 20:57:23 | captain_proton | err |
| 20:57:24 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 20:57:50 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | sighs |
| 21:04:33 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | heya bzflag! |
| 21:14:53 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | oooh, 3d glasses in americas army is very cool |
| 21:25:42 | BZFlag | try em in 1.8 with the anagraph display mode. ;-) |
| 21:26:01 | captain_proton | BZFlag: he's talking about shutter glasses |
| 21:26:22 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | bzflag, I want shutter glasses support in bzflag |
| 21:26:29 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | (patches welcome yea yea) |
| 21:26:33 | BZFlag | well, those too them in 1.7 if your GL implementation supports it. |
| 21:26:43 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | ? |
| 21:26:45 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | mine does |
| 21:26:50 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | but bzflag barfs |
| 21:26:56 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | let me try it in 98 |
| 21:27:02 | BZFlag | bzflag on sgi should work with shutter glasses. |
| 21:27:07 | captain_proton | yep, sgi can do it |
| 21:27:10 | captain_proton | nothing else can |
| 21:27:11 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | ooh |
| 21:27:16 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | snifs |
| 21:27:27 | BZFlag | patches welcome ;-) |
| 21:27:53 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | lol |
| 21:28:28 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | hmm, now all I need is a bigger monitor |
| 21:28:30 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | :) |
| 21:28:35 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | 16 inches aint much.. |
| 21:36:16 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | yay |
| 21:36:18 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | wow |
| 21:36:31 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | a sound card driver is 3 megs |
| 21:36:35 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | no |
| 21:36:38 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | 5 megs |
| 21:36:40 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | why so big? |
| 21:36:42 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | snorts |
| 21:38:20 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | hmm, I was wondering what those spots are |
| 21:38:27 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | mold... on my desk... |
| 21:38:55 | captain_proton | twiddles his thumbs waiting for a reply from ACARD |
| 21:39:53 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | ACARD? |
| 21:39:57 | | bzbzbzbzbzdoug: i haven't a clue |
| 21:39:57 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | ibot ACARD? |
| 21:40:14 | | OK, bzbzbzbzbzdoug. |
| 21:40:14 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | ibot ACARD is Something captain_proton is waiting a reply from |
| 21:40:20 | | ACARD is probably Something captain_proton is waiting a reply from |
| 21:40:20 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | ibot ACARD? |
| 21:40:33 | | OK, captain_proton. |
| 21:40:33 | captain_proton | ibot ACARD is a company that makes a truly sexy SCSI-IDE bridge |
| 21:40:44 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | ah |
| 21:40:55 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | how much is it? |
| 21:41:00 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | the bridge? |
| 21:41:11 | captain_proton | thats what i'm waiting for a reply about |
| 21:41:23 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | ah |
| 21:41:25 | captain_proton | i emailed OEM sales asking how much it would cost for a small batch |
| 21:42:03 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | ah, how many are you going to need? |
| 21:42:14 | captain_proton | probably around 40 for the laptop backplane |
| 21:42:23 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | ick |
| 21:42:27 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | are they chips? |
| 21:42:31 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 21:42:36 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | iiiicccckkk |
| 21:42:43 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | you gonna solder all of them? |
| 21:43:26 | captain_proton | believe so, for now what i'm probably going to do is try to order a very small batch (like 5), get a single adaptec chip and try to wire up a few drives |
| 21:43:38 | captain_proton | then once i have everything working do the board layout |
| 21:43:51 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | ah |
| 21:44:07 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | neat |
| 21:44:11 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | how many wires is there? |
| 21:44:32 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | ooh, soundblaster drivers are installed... |
| 21:44:34 | bzbzbzbzbzdoug | brb |
| 21:45:20 | captain_proton | i think the adaptec chip is a 200 pin package, and the ACARD chip is 128 |
| 21:45:21 | captain_proton | i think |
| 21:46:21 | bzdougg | ? |
| 21:46:30 | captain_proton | <captain_proton> i think the adaptec chip is a 200 pin package, and the ACARD chip is 128 |
| 21:46:40 | bzdougg | ick, thats alot |
| 21:46:58 | captain_proton | yeah, i don't need most of them right now though |
| 21:47:08 | bzdougg | ah |
| 21:47:21 | captain_proton | leaves |
| 21:47:25 | bzdougg | cya |
| 22:17:56 | juanjose | hullo |
| 22:18:02 | jolly | hi |
| 22:22:40 | bzdougg | loouh |
| 22:56:38 | BZFlag | ibot: bzflist |
| 22:56:38 | | BZFlag: 24.194.98.76:5155(6) 68.67.196.6:5155(7) rook.n0hot.net:5156(5) darknet.dk:5155(4) bzbody.dedicatedpenguin.com:5155(8) 209.152.106.94:5164(9) |
| 22:56:58 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i don't suppose you know where to find ACARD chips? :P |
| 22:59:06 | BZFlag | hmm.. nope. http://www.acard.com/ ? ;-) |
| 22:59:39 | captain_proton | none of their distributors sell the chips, i've emailed the OEM person but they're sloooooow |
| 23:01:52 | captain_proton | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 23:02:18 | captain_proton | you hear? if i can get a reasonable price on these chips the drive array is gonna be a scsi monster :) |
| 23:11:50 | Patlabor221 | I am |
| 23:12:01 | captain_proton | you are? |
| 23:12:12 | Patlabor221 | brain not work rogiht |
| 23:12:27 | Patlabor221 | how scsi, arn't the drives IDE? |
| 23:13:00 | captain_proton | well the IDE subsystem only supports 10 channels |
| 23:13:23 | Patlabor221 | map that to a SCSI ID? |
| 23:13:26 | captain_proton | so i'm going to pull off the IDE bus, stick 3 scsi controller chips on it then use SCSI-IDE bridges for pairs of drives |
| 23:13:46 | Patlabor221 | how many SCSI devices per gain |
| 23:13:48 | Patlabor221 | chain |
| 23:13:50 | Patlabor221 | 7? |
| 23:13:54 | captain_proton | 15 |
| 23:14:00 | captain_proton | 2 chains per controller chip |
| 23:14:03 | Patlabor221 | or is it 7 ids and 7 LIDS? |
| 23:14:10 | Patlabor221 | 15 not too bad |
| 23:14:16 | captain_proton | its the LVD standard, not single-end |
| 23:14:40 | Patlabor221 | I need rice |
| 23:14:56 | captain_proton | but i'm definitely backplaning it, because if i try to cable them i'll need to actually use the converter boards they produce, instead of just the chips, and those are REALLY expensive |
| 23:16:19 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 23:16:39 | Patlabor221 | mmmmmm roasted sea vegitable |
| 23:19:42 | captain_proton | but with the scsi conversion it can (theoretically) scale to around 3500 disks |
| 23:20:05 | Patlabor221 | that's a lot of disks |
| 23:20:41 | captain_proton | i doubt i'll ever get beyond 200 or so |
| 23:21:25 | Patlabor221 | if you align all the disks to the same axis, you could get a gyroscopic effect |
| 23:21:36 | Patlabor221 | and make the thing unable to tip over |
| 23:22:16 | Patlabor221 | you could have the first stablaised server |
| 23:23:15 | captain_proton | bwahaha, a stable machine |
| 23:23:28 | Patlabor221 | you could put it in a gymbal |
| 23:46:03 | BZFlag | great. someone in israel nuked RecntChanges from the wiki. restored. |
