| 00:00:25 | iLLf8d | now if it was chics soccer |
| 00:00:31 | iLLf8d | I may be more interested |
| 00:07:34 | iLLf8d | Widget: yeah probably 2 americans and 3,999,996 foreign people visiting |
| 00:07:39 | iLLf8d | for example |
| 00:07:40 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 00:07:53 | iLLf8d | I've never watched more then 10 min of soccer |
| 00:08:02 | iLLf8d | and only since I moved to this building |
| 00:08:15 | iLLf8d | we have a ton of russians mexicans persians etc... |
| 00:08:19 | iLLf8d | the list goes on and on |
| 00:08:37 | iLLf8d | I've never seen anyone express an interest like the foreign people who live here |
| 00:08:51 | Widget | Well, Americans are just weird. |
| 00:08:51 | iLLf8d | its like when the americans have a superbowl (almost) |
| 00:09:03 | iLLf8d | its the only time you can tell what they're doing heh |
| 00:09:12 | Widget | Football is waaaaaaaaaaay more popular than American football. |
| 00:09:15 | iLLf8d | like an iran game or something |
| 00:09:26 | iLLf8d | outside the states sure... |
| 00:09:41 | iLLf8d | theres alot more to football then to soccer |
| 00:09:56 | iLLf8d | that may be the reason americans like it so much |
| 00:11:15 | Widget | Complicated != better |
| 00:11:19 | iLLf8d | actually I wouldn't mind it if were more popular |
| 00:11:29 | iLLf8d | hey you can't knock football it rocks |
| 00:11:41 | iLLf8d | but yeah I agree with your complicated isn't necessarily better |
| 00:12:19 | iLLf8d | actually before switchin on the tube last night to see what the ruccus was about |
| 00:12:34 | iLLf8d | the only memorable soccer event I've ever been to was when I was 13 |
| 00:12:40 | iLLf8d | went to see the cosmos play |
| 00:12:43 | iLLf8d | or maybe it was 11 |
| 00:13:48 | iLLf8d | roflmao |
| 00:14:02 | iLLf8d | its funny talking with people who don't totally understand english heh |
| 00:14:36 | Widget | Hm. |
| 00:15:30 | iLLf8d | (17:17:11) tinker_ger: Hi, how are you? |
| 00:15:31 | iLLf8d | (17:17:21) l8tr2000: ok how are you =) |
| 00:15:31 | iLLf8d | (17:17:29) l8tr2000: long time no see |
| 00:15:31 | iLLf8d | (17:17:33) tinker_ger: Yes, I am |
| 00:16:51 | Widget | Hahaha. |
| 00:16:56 | Widget | When was this? |
| 00:17:22 | iLLf8d | right now |
| 00:17:33 | iLLf8d | he speaks english well enough to get the jist |
| 00:17:48 | Widget | Ah. |
| 00:18:13 | Widget | So why are you making him learn English to speak to you? |
| 00:18:17 | Widget | You should learn German! |
| 00:18:34 | Widget | Tell him 'Ich liebe dich'. |
| 00:19:42 | Condon | hey, has someone seen dinah? |
| 00:21:46 | Widget | Chestal: Nope. |
| 00:21:48 | Widget | Er. |
| 00:21:50 | Widget | Condon: Nope. |
| 00:21:57 | Widget | Condon: She is probably sad because of England's defeat. |
| 00:22:00 | Widget | I am too. |
| 00:22:24 | Condon | It lasts several days since I've seen here last |
| 00:22:41 | Widget | Hm. |
| 00:23:26 | Condon | Widget: U've played really good but Brasil is undefeatable.... |
| 00:23:40 | Widget | Condon: We could have won! We could have! |
| 00:23:43 | Widget | Well, now, Germany will win. |
| 00:24:20 | Condon | I dont think so:-) |
| 00:24:27 | Widget | I think so. |
| 00:24:34 | Widget | Brazil needs to work on their defense. |
| 00:24:42 | Widget | Their offense and ballplay is magnificent. |
| 00:24:49 | Widget | But they have a weak defense, which allowed England to score. |
| 00:24:53 | Widget | Germany can easily win. |
| 00:25:04 | Widget | Rmemeber, Belgium held them off for 62 minutes. |
| 00:25:42 | Condon | no! it was one mistake of Brasil player (dont rremember name) |
| 00:26:02 | Widget | Brazil is known to have a weak defense. |
| 00:26:15 | Widget | Germany has an excellent defense. |
| 00:26:28 | Widget | We shall see. We shall see. :) |
| 00:26:32 | Condon | but this defense can hold (in 10) the whole England! |
| 00:26:45 | Condon | for 40 minutes |
| 00:27:04 | Widget | England just played badly. |
| 00:27:21 | Condon | however, the match Germany-Brasil will be interesting |
| 00:27:44 | Condon | Dont U remember last match Germany-Brasil? |
| 00:27:50 | Widget | No. |
| 00:28:05 | Widget | was 11 last World Cup. |
| 00:28:27 | Condon | :-) |
| 00:28:36 | Condon | but U can heard 'bout this |
| 00:28:39 | Widget | Condon: Oh, yes! What does Polish currency look like? |
| 00:29:37 | Condon | pardon? look like other money...??? |
| 00:29:48 | Widget | All the money in the world does not look alike. |
| 00:29:53 | Widget | What do Zlotych look like? |
| 00:30:28 | Widget | http://www.banknotes.com/PL177.JPG |
| 00:30:31 | Widget | Like that? |
| 00:30:31 | Condon | I dont know haow to answer; I'll try to find it somewhere, wait.... |
| 00:30:44 | Widget | Narodowy Bank Polski at the top.. |
| 00:30:56 | Widget | At the side, 200 with the words DWIESCIE ZLOTYCH... |
| 00:31:05 | Condon | Excelent! |
| 00:31:24 | Widget | That is what it looks like? |
| 00:31:28 | Widget | Is that actual size? |
| 00:31:49 | Condon | the size depends on my resolution:-) |
| 00:32:29 | Condon | but in 1280x1024 it's rather good |
| 00:32:38 | Widget | I have that resolution as well. |
| 00:32:47 | Widget | Wow.... those notes are very big compared to ours. |
| 00:33:08 | Condon | yes - perfectly the same |
| 00:33:43 | Condon | What are U up to? |
| 00:33:49 | Widget | Playing go. |
| 00:33:52 | Widget | Working out go problems. |
| 00:35:33 | Condon | CU |
| 00:35:46 | Condon | going sleep now |
| 00:57:29 | jpablo | pragma: sucks. |
| 01:19:18 | pragma | jpablo: Te la comes |
| 02:41:02 | captain_proton | yoyoyo |
| 03:43:35 | Widget | hihihihi, captain_proton. |
| 03:52:12 | ski | hi all |
| 03:52:17 | Widget | Hi, Widget. |
| 03:52:20 | Widget | Er.... |
| 03:52:21 | Widget | Hi, ski. |
| 03:52:24 | ski | lol |
| 03:52:26 | Widget | Guten morgen. |
| 04:19:25 | captain_proton | heya MrApathyCream |
| 04:19:38 | captain_proton | particles compile on win? |
| 04:21:32 | MrApathyCream | hmmm, haven't tried... hold on |
| 04:22:28 | Widget | captain_proton: Need any PNGs? |
| 04:22:34 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 04:22:44 | captain_proton | i could use a better rain drop that doesn't have any black in it |
| 04:23:39 | Widget | I have to edit the im,age by hand, then? |
| 04:23:54 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 04:24:18 | Widget | By when do you need it? |
| 04:24:24 | MrApathyCream | compiles fine |
| 04:24:32 | Widget | is typing with one hand. |
| 04:26:23 | captain_proton | yay |
| 04:26:30 | captain_proton | Widget: as soon as you can if possible |
| 04:27:26 | Widget | Let me finish eating. |
| 04:29:23 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: in game, do `set weather raining |
| 04:29:36 | Widget | is addicted to Macaroni and Cheese. |
| 04:29:42 | Widget | OK, where did I save that png? |
| 04:29:50 | Widget | Here it is. |
| 04:30:11 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: can't doesn't link ;) |
| 04:30:13 | Widget | By the black, do you mean the stuff at the bottom? |
| 04:30:19 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: oooh |
| 04:30:28 | captain_proton | Widget: notice how its kind of dark? |
| 04:30:37 | captain_proton | around the edges |
| 04:30:37 | Widget | captain_proton: Which part? |
| 04:30:39 | MrApathyCream | you didn't ask about that :) |
| 04:31:21 | Widget | captain_proton: Ah, I think I can fix this. |
| 04:32:44 | Widget | captain_proton: It should still be dark at the bottom, yes? |
| 04:32:51 | captain_proton | Widget: no |
| 04:32:54 | captain_proton | Widget: not dark at all |
| 04:33:00 | Widget | captain_proton: What colour at the bottom then? |
| 04:33:03 | captain_proton | (looks bad in daylight) |
| 04:33:05 | Widget | captain_proton: It becomes completely black there. |
| 04:33:22 | captain_proton | Widget: it'd be nice if that could be transformed into transparency instead of black |
| 04:33:34 | Widget | Hm... I'm not sure I know how to do that. |
| 04:33:35 | Widget | Let's see. |
| 04:33:55 | captain_proton | Widget: make a completely new image =/ |
| 04:34:13 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: you need to add SceneNodeFieldReader.cxx to be compiled |
| 04:34:24 | MrApathyCream | lol, already did and checked it in |
| 04:34:38 | captain_proton | works now? |
| 04:34:45 | MrApathyCream | dunno, 1.8 is doa for me |
| 04:34:47 | captain_proton | (my email is really fux0red) |
| 04:35:18 | captain_proton | they set up some port filter somewhere thats blocking DNS |
| 04:36:51 | Widget | captain_proton: Weird... |
| 04:36:58 | Widget | captain_proton: When I enter two.bzflag.org, everything is black. |
| 04:37:06 | Widget | captain_proton: And typing `set weather raining did nothing. |
| 04:37:13 | captain_proton | Widget: you sure you have the latest? |
| 04:37:17 | Widget | And when I typed Escape, to escape from that prompt, I got a segmentation fault. |
| 04:37:21 | Widget | captain_proton: I just got it five minutes ago. |
| 04:37:27 | captain_proton | bizzare |
| 04:37:29 | captain_proton | cvs ups |
| 04:39:12 | Widget | http://home.attbi.com/~ulumuri/droplettest.png |
| 04:39:19 | Widget | I should not be using this webspace. :( |
| 04:40:04 | captain_proton | Widget: works for me |
| 04:40:35 | Widget | captain_proton: Why is two.bzflag.org completely darl? |
| 04:41:13 | captain_proton | Widget: the black is due to a syntax error in one of the xml files |
| 04:41:20 | captain_proton | Widget: try a clean checkout (not cvs up) |
| 04:41:25 | captain_proton | it might have badly merged them |
| 04:42:09 | Widget | What is the CVS checkout command again? |
| 04:42:23 | captain_proton | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co bzflag |
| 04:42:47 | captain_proton | Widget: that droplet is better, but its still black at the end |
| 04:42:50 | Widget | Merci. |
| 04:42:59 | Widget | captain_proton: Hm.... let me try to get rid of that. |
| 04:52:33 | Widget | http://home.attbi.com/~ulumuri/droplettest.png |
| 04:54:26 | Widget | captain_proton: Is this one OK? |
| 04:55:26 | captain_proton | yes |
| 05:00:39 | Widget | captain_proton: Wow, it looks really nice. |
| 05:00:45 | Widget | Some nitpicky things: |
| 05:01:05 | captain_proton | yeah, i know, the motion |
| 05:01:06 | Widget | Real rain is always blowin in a certain angle. So if I turn 180 degrees, I should see the rain going a different way. |
| 05:01:16 | Widget | it doesn't come straight down. It's blown slightly by the wind. |
| 05:01:31 | Widget | It looks now sort of like there are pipes on top of your tank that are dripping water |
| 05:02:46 | captain_proton | well, you can make it tilt by changing the direction field in the emitter |
| 05:02:49 | captain_proton | try '1 0 -5' |
| 05:04:14 | captain_proton | but it doesn't change direction |
| 05:04:30 | captain_proton | once i have a movement affector, it'll rotate the system opposite to the rotation of the tank |
| 05:04:35 | Widget | Hm. |
| 05:04:55 | Widget | It should go in a direction independent of which way the tank is facing, though. |
| 05:05:10 | captain_proton | Widget: thats what rotating the system would do |
| 05:05:46 | Widget | captain_proton: Yes, but say I'm facing one way, then turn 180 degrees and stop. |
| 05:06:00 | Widget | The rain, from my perspective, should be going at a different angle. |
| 05:07:16 | captain_proton | Widget: thats why it needs a movement affector |
| 05:07:31 | captain_proton | because the system is only a localized 8x8x8 box in front of the view |
| 05:08:55 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:09:02 | captain_proton | new US currency will have color, but not shape |
| 05:16:15 | Widget | It should have shape. |
| 05:16:31 | captain_proton | well - no difference in size between notes |
| 05:17:40 | jpablo | hahahaha: http://www.devx.com/free/hotlinks/2002/ednote061902/ednote061902n.asp |
| 05:17:46 | jpablo | Q. What programming language(s) are you using for your implementation? |
| 05:17:46 | jpablo | Mono's de Icaza: |
| 05:17:47 | jpablo | Mostly Cobol, especially for the JIT engine. |
| 05:20:42 | captain_proton | hah |
| 05:50:40 | captain_proton | so MrApathyCream... |
| 05:50:43 | captain_proton | what are your thoughts on rain? |
| 05:58:43 | jpablo | captain_proton: what would happend when there's a game with rain, everybody will have momentum or what ? |
| 05:58:51 | jpablo | that would be interesting. |
| 06:17:09 | captain_proton | jpablo: it would possibly alter the traction |
| 06:17:18 | MrApathyCream | it's wet |
| 06:17:22 | captain_proton | right now i'm focusing on the visual/aural effect |
| 06:17:53 | MrApathyCream | the ground should leave mud tracks |
| 06:18:11 | captain_proton | hah |
| 06:19:28 | MrApathyCream | how bout a tornado that comes through and destroys any tanks in it's path |
| 06:19:48 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:19:50 | captain_proton | possible |
| 06:20:26 | MrApathyCream | what will roaming look like when it's raining? |
| 06:20:40 | MrApathyCream | would be funny to see these little rain volumes following tanks |
| 06:20:55 | captain_proton | it positions the volume in front of the view |
| 06:20:56 | captain_proton | not the tank |
| 06:21:06 | MrApathyCream | ah, yea, of course |
| 06:21:17 | captain_proton | i considered doing it on the tank position though |
| 06:21:50 | MrApathyCream | you could then have a eeyore flag!, pick it up and a little rain cloud follows you around |
| 06:22:00 | captain_proton | OOOOOH |
| 06:22:34 | jpablo | hehe, nice. |
| 06:23:54 | MrApathyCream | heads off to bed, dreaming of one day seeing rain in bz |
| 06:24:07 | captain_proton | `set weather raining |
| 06:30:37 | Widget | captain_proton: How come there's no sound yet? |
| 06:32:27 | captain_proton | Widget: because right now bzflag doesn't have any support for looping a sound |
| 06:38:22 | Widget | captain_proton: Hm. |
| 06:39:32 | captain_proton | i'm working on it |
| 06:42:29 | Widget | captain_proton: Add keyboard support while you're at it. |
| 06:42:58 | captain_proton | i have no motivation for that |
| 06:43:50 | Widget | Do it... or I shall tell my PNGs to take over your computer!!!! |
| 06:44:32 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:44:34 | captain_proton | can't have that happen |
| 06:47:04 | Widget | Have you seen Minority Report yet? |
| 06:47:18 | captain_proton | not yet |
| 06:47:19 | captain_proton | i want to |
| 06:47:45 | Widget | I'm going tomorrow. |
| 06:48:57 | Widget | gloats. |
| 06:49:20 | captain_proton | i may have a date when i see it |
| 06:49:22 | captain_proton | gloats |
| 06:49:48 | Widget | The operative word being 'may'. |
| 06:50:03 | captain_proton | however, for me, the possibility exists |
| 07:19:25 | goofey | ouch! |
| 07:20:14 | captain_proton | ? |
| 07:20:29 | goofey | "however, for me, the possibility exists" |
| 07:20:57 | captain_proton | oh that |
| 07:20:57 | captain_proton | =D |
| 07:20:57 | goofey | damn capt, give the guy a break! :) |
| 07:21:03 | captain_proton | i'm not talking about Widget in general, just this specifically |
| 07:21:24 | goofey | Oh, okay. :) |
| 07:21:37 | goofey | let me know if the movie's any good, okay? |
| 07:21:48 | captain_proton | hell - anybody could take a look at my social life and laugh |
| 07:22:02 | goofey | I wouldn't - trust me |
| 07:27:21 | goofey | btw, what is a "social life"? |
| 07:30:08 | BZFlag | goofey: when you work all your life to pay social security. |
| 07:30:26 | goofey | Oh, okay, I have one of those! :) |
| 07:33:38 | goofey | is away: Linux is not The Answer. Yes is the answer. Linux is The Question. |
| 07:35:55 | captain_proton | BZFlag: any clue how to modify the ambient lighting during the daytime? |
| 07:36:02 | BZFlag | nope |
| 07:36:08 | BZFlag | open the window? |
| 07:36:17 | captain_proton | erk |
| 07:36:32 | BZFlag | heh. at least I gave the serious answer first. |
| 07:36:38 | captain_proton | true |
| 07:36:48 | Widget | TV input cards are wonderful. I'm watching the World Cup on my computer. |
| 07:36:50 | Widget | This is so fun. |
| 07:38:24 | goofey | why was italy's score not counted? |
| 07:38:28 | captain_proton | here's what i'm thinking about audio: |
| 07:38:42 | captain_proton | create a sound manager class, with associated global SNDMGR |
| 07:39:06 | captain_proton | have it load sounds into itself on startup, then add jobs |
| 07:39:07 | Widget | goofey: Why are you not watching? |
| 07:39:15 | Widget | goofey: ESP v. KOR? |
| 07:39:22 | captain_proton | looping jobs would be specified by an identifier, as to easily remove them |
| 07:40:09 | goofey | Widget: oops. you're right - spain's goal, not italy |
| 07:40:24 | goofey | Widget: I didn't see a foul |
| 07:40:45 | Widget | goofey: Spain's goal? What minute? |
| 07:41:08 | goofey | just 5 minutes ago - off of a free kick - headed in, but imediate whistle |
| 07:41:26 | Widget | goofey: Oh, halftime. :) |
| 07:41:33 | captain_proton | ouch |
| 07:41:35 | BZFlag | captain_proton: sounds reasonable. |
| 07:41:42 | goofey | nooo, well, not a big deal - just curious |
| 07:41:43 | Widget | Wait. |
| 07:41:56 | BZFlag | now can it be raining harder one one end of the field? ;-) |
| 07:42:13 | Widget | goofey: No, it was because of Lee fouling Joaquin. |
| 07:42:24 | goofey | Widget: ohh, okay, thanks |
| 07:42:26 | Widget | Hm... Korea seems to be dominating this half. |
| 07:42:30 | BZFlag | you might want to consider adding engine noise to tanks. |
| 07:42:42 | BZFlag | with dopler effect of course. |
| 07:42:44 | Widget | captain_proton: And breakdowns as well. |
| 07:42:51 | BZFlag | an perhaps motion noise. |
| 07:42:56 | goofey | Widget: I have to admit I'm enjoying watching the games - soccer is much more interesting than I thought |
| 07:43:01 | captain_proton | Widget: breakdowns? |
| 07:43:05 | BZFlag | so you can hear when that tank behind you starts moving. |
| 07:43:22 | goofey | so, how stable is 1.7e6? |
| 07:43:24 | Widget | captain_proton: Yes. Every once in a while, your tank will sputter, belch some smoke, and just not work any more. |
| 07:43:32 | captain_proton | lol |
| 07:43:49 | BZFlag | goofey: seems to be as stable as previous releases. |
| 07:43:52 | Widget | Unless it's a Japanese tank, of course. |
| 07:44:09 | BZFlag | some comments on issues, but unable to reproduce them. |
| 07:44:18 | Widget | Gah. Korea is fowling so much. |
| 07:44:26 | Widget | goofey: What are you watching it on? |
| 07:44:55 | goofey | espn - you? |
| 07:45:08 | Widget | BBCi. |
| 07:45:25 | goofey | BZFlag: thanks - I'll give it a try - looking forward to the new panel |
| 07:45:36 | BZFlag | or lack of... |
| 07:45:39 | goofey | Widget: you in Europe? |
| 07:45:49 | Widget | goofey: No, New Zealand. |
| 07:45:49 | goofey | BZFlag: exactly |
| 07:46:15 | goofey | Widget: Just talking about NZ today with someone who spent a month in Auckland and Christ Church |
| 07:46:36 | Widget | goofey: Christchurch? Wow, not many people come to South Island. |
| 07:46:36 | goofey | Widget: she loved it there - said it's her favorite country so far |
| 07:47:01 | goofey | Widget: she flew out from there to the US Antartic science base |
| 07:47:09 | Widget | goofey: Wow. |
| 07:47:14 | Widget | goofey: Amundsen-Scott base? |
| 07:47:14 | captain_proton | BZFlag: did you ever successfully see rain in-game? |
| 07:47:16 | Widget | goofey: Or another? |
| 07:47:37 | goofey | Widget: can;t remember - I'll ask her. Great story |
| 07:47:51 | goofey | Widget: it took 6 tries to get from CC to te base |
| 07:48:02 | Widget | goofey: Oh, why? |
| 07:48:02 | BZFlag | captain_proton: nope. have not been able to join a game in 1.8 |
| 07:48:11 | goofey | Widget: the military plane returned *5* times due to mechanical probs |
| 07:48:20 | Widget | goofey: Haha. |
| 07:48:24 | Widget | goofey: Hm. |
| 07:48:26 | goofey | over 5 hours of water!!! |
| 07:48:43 | Widget | goofey: The passangers must have been pretty peeved by the sixth time. |
| 07:48:52 | goofey | Widget: I was thinking the same thing |
| 07:49:19 | goofey | Widget: and this was in summer! Not like that time they tried to get the american doc off in winter |
| 07:49:44 | captain_proton | BZFlag: =( |
| 07:50:05 | Widget | goofey: Well, obviously summer. I should think you can't even fly at all in the winter. |
| 07:50:10 | akira_ | moin |
| 07:50:21 | Widget | akira_: Did you celebrate your day of sleep on Friday? |
| 07:50:26 | akira_ | why ? |
| 07:50:39 | Widget | I was wondering. Chestal did not. |
| 07:50:45 | akira_ | its 10 o clock here right now |
| 07:50:48 | Widget | akira_: Why aren't you watching ESP v. KOR? |
| 07:50:57 | akira_ | and i slept yesterday from 5 to 10 |
| 07:51:01 | akira_ | the day before |
| 07:51:01 | akira_ | the day before |
| 07:51:02 | akira_ | the day before |
| 07:51:03 | akira_ | the day before |
| 07:51:04 | akira_ | :) |
| 07:51:05 | akira_ | so |
| 07:51:11 | goofey | Widget: but they did that one time to get the doc home - but yeah, usually no planes from Feb to Aug |
| 07:51:24 | akira_ | the bzclient rocks |
| 07:51:44 | goofey | damn, thought kor had it that time |
| 07:51:49 | Widget | goofey: Yes. |
| 07:51:53 | Widget | goofey: At least another corner. |
| 07:52:09 | Widget | Casillas saved well. |
| 07:52:16 | akira_ | Widget: who lost ? korea ? |
| 07:52:27 | Widget | akira_: It is still 0:0. |
| 07:52:35 | goofey | Widget: yeah - say, you on the south island? |
| 07:52:35 | akira_ | ah |
| 07:53:00 | Widget | akira_: It will end at 8:30 our time, which is 5:30 Korean time. |
| 07:53:04 | Widget | goofey: Yes, Invercargill. |
| 07:53:15 | goofey | I've heard it's very pretty |
| 07:53:28 | goofey | what's your latitude there? |
| 07:53:29 | Widget | It is if you go a bit north of here. |
| 07:53:31 | Widget | To the alps. |
| 07:53:38 | Widget | I have nooooo idea what my latitude is. :) |
| 07:54:02 | akira_ | its on the other side of the earth :) |
| 07:54:07 | goofey | Widget: you play on homelinux, right? |
| 07:54:15 | Widget | goofey: Rarely. |
| 07:54:21 | akira_ | whats homelinux ? |
| 07:54:21 | Widget | goofey: 97% of the time on ducati. |
| 07:54:31 | Widget | akira_: Tankenstein's server. |
| 07:54:37 | akira_ | ah |
| 07:54:42 | goofey | Widget: I was just thinking there doesn;t seem to be much lag.. |
| 07:54:58 | Widget | goofey: Oh, there is. |
| 07:55:03 | goofey | Widget: are you on the east or west side of the island? |
| 07:55:08 | Widget | goofey: Recently, I've been lagging over a second on tankenstein's server. |
| 07:55:09 | goofey | Widget: bummer |
| 07:55:22 | Widget | goofey: Very south. Slightly to the east. |
| 07:55:39 | goofey | Widget: lots of fog? |
| 07:55:39 | akira_ | and widget wants to send me a postcard :) |
| 07:55:41 | Widget | goofey: I get lagkicked from ducati a lot. I'm usually around border. |
| 07:55:55 | Widget | akira_: Your girlfriend has already won. |
| 07:56:02 | akira_ | ... |
| 07:56:06 | Widget | akira_: She's found the farthest point from Magdeburg. |
| 07:56:16 | goofey | Widget: big bummer - you must be one of those I can't shoot |
| 07:56:27 | goofey | shot goes right through you. :) |
| 07:56:32 | captain_proton | ewwwwwww |
| 07:56:35 | Widget | goofey: It's not _that_ bad. |
| 07:56:37 | captain_proton | current sound stuff is almost C |
| 07:57:04 | goofey | I'm going to bed all - night! |
| 07:57:07 | akira_ | so, someone is on ducati right now ? |
| 07:57:13 | goofey | Widget: nice to talk to you |
| 07:57:13 | akira_ | wanne check new client |
| 07:57:22 | Widget | goofey: Talk to you later. |
| 07:57:27 | BZFlag | captain_proton: you say that like it's a bad thing. |
| 07:57:28 | Widget | I shall go to ducati. |
| 07:58:08 | captain_proton | BZFlag: in the middle of a bunch of C++, it makes the architecture confusing |
| 08:00:12 | BZFlag | captain_proton: I connected now, but can't see a thing. |
| 08:02:05 | BZFlag | captain_proton: not bgzview does not work either. |
| 08:02:15 | BZFlag | er now |
| 08:02:16 | captain_proton | BZFlag: `set weather raining |
| 08:03:29 | captain_proton | looks best at nighttime |
| 08:06:21 | BZFlag | captain_proton: cool. |
| 08:06:31 | BZFlag | captain_proton: finally got it to run. |
| 08:06:48 | BZFlag | the rain should move from side to side if you turn. |
| 08:06:58 | captain_proton | yeah, the motion needs work |
| 08:07:05 | captain_proton | i think i know how to do it, just a question of doing it |
| 08:07:09 | BZFlag | just loop the effect so drops going off the left appear on the right. |
| 08:07:57 | BZFlag | and I suppose the drops should get shorter the faster you move forward and back. |
| 08:08:08 | akira_ | captain_proton: why did the translucy have no configurable parameter ? |
| 08:08:11 | BZFlag | and live shorter too. |
| 08:08:29 | captain_proton | BZFlag: its not quite that simple |
| 08:08:30 | BZFlag | akira_: cause if was like that for weeks in cvs and nobody added it. |
| 08:08:42 | BZFlag | captain_proton: I didn't say it was easy. ;-) |
| 08:09:04 | captain_proton | i'm thinking of having it move the particles by a certain amount based on how far you've turned/moved |
| 08:09:41 | captain_proton | plus rotate the system around based on your azimuth angle |
| 08:09:45 | captain_proton | for windblown rain |
| 08:11:03 | BZFlag | cool |
| 08:12:25 | captain_proton | its already possible to angle the rain for wind, but the angle remains consistant when you turn |
| 08:13:05 | captain_proton | and i definitely need to add volume fog for when its raining |
| 08:15:07 | jpablo | damn, you know you are an addict when you start using pyramids to hit people who is jumping. |
| 08:16:13 | captain_proton | jpablo: i started that once - knew it was time to take a break |
| 08:17:23 | jpablo | oh, men. |
| 08:17:30 | jpablo | should do something productive. |
| 08:18:02 | BZFlag | jpablo: hack on 1.8 ;-) |
| 08:18:40 | jpablo | i was thinking about hacking in bzflag but i don't really like/know very well c++. |
| 08:19:17 | BZFlag | jpablo: good place to learn. ;-) |
| 08:20:08 | captain_proton | yes yes |
| 08:20:10 | captain_proton | hack on 1.8 |
| 08:20:11 | captain_proton | please |
| 08:21:07 | jpablo | well, maybe someday i get motivated :-P |
| 08:32:55 | captain_proton | villainsupply.com is hilarious |
| 08:37:12 | akira_ | captain_proton: particle system :) nice idea |
| 08:39:30 | captain_proton | oh joy |
| 08:39:35 | captain_proton | gets to recompile everything |
| 08:52:37 | akira_ | do i compile bzflag with vc++ ? |
| 08:53:23 | captain_proton | if you're on windows, yes |
| 08:55:05 | Han | Suppose gcc also works on windows? |
| 08:55:32 | captain_proton | i think someone was trying to get it to compile with cygwin |
| 08:57:18 | BZFlag | nite |
| 09:09:29 | akira_ | captain_proton: please take in a flag/option to disable colored shots on the radar |
| 09:09:39 | akira_ | cant see blue and red shots |
| 09:09:44 | captain_proton | akira_: not my decision |
| 09:10:05 | akira_ | ok, where i have to search ? radar.cxx `? |
| 09:12:11 | captain_proton | RadarRenderer.cxx probably |
| 09:13:10 | akira_ | ok, will take a look at |
| 09:13:21 | akira_ | is there a .dsw/.dsp for win32 ? |
| 09:13:39 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 09:13:44 | captain_proton | read the win32 readme file |
| 09:17:59 | akira_ | where is the config file normaly ? |
| 09:18:23 | captain_proton | hmm - often in the my documents folder |
| 09:19:07 | akira_ | i meant ... bzflag is starting and reads the config .. ... where ? :) |
| 09:19:50 | captain_proton | oh |
| 09:19:54 | captain_proton | probably bzflag.cxx |
| 09:20:58 | akira_ | coz it would be fine if bzflag would check a lot of possible locations |
| 09:21:30 | akira_ | for example on this machine right now i have no permission to save any files .. so .. bzflag always search for the config and forget about it right after i restart the pc |
| 09:28:37 | iLLf8d | lo all |
| 09:28:51 | iLLf8d | is there any reason why the ctf bases have a box under them? |
| 09:29:09 | iLLf8d | seems they have a thickness of at least 4 |
| 09:29:28 | captain_proton | thickness of 1 |
| 09:29:30 | akira_ | its the .. _base_ :) |
| 09:29:31 | captain_proton | if elevated |
| 09:30:08 | iLLf8d | is that part of the client code? |
| 09:30:11 | iLLf8d | or what? |
| 09:30:17 | iLLf8d | or is it serverside |
| 09:30:21 | captain_proton | client |
| 09:30:34 | iLLf8d | it'd be nice if it were bugfixed for e7 |
| 09:30:41 | captain_proton | its not a bug |
| 09:30:47 | akira_ | its always a feature :) |
| 09:30:48 | iLLf8d | widths of .01 should be allowable |
| 09:30:58 | iLLf8d | huh? |
| 09:31:02 | captain_proton | there's no height parameter on bases in the protocol |
| 09:31:07 | iLLf8d | every other object accepts a base can be smaller |
| 09:31:27 | iLLf8d | I'd like it to be .01 ie so people will fall thru it |
| 09:31:36 | captain_proton | then flag captures don't work |
| 09:31:47 | iLLf8d | yeah they will assuming the field is setup properly |
| 09:31:54 | iLLf8d | not .01 but something really thin |
| 09:32:00 | akira_ | captain_proton: why not ? |
| 09:32:05 | captain_proton | if people will fall through it, flag captures fail |
| 09:32:09 | iLLf8d | cause it doesn't sample fast enough |
| 09:32:23 | iLLf8d | tho .01 may be another issue |
| 09:32:38 | iLLf8d | thats why when you jump from height you pass thru 1.0 thickness decks |
| 09:32:41 | iLLf8d | or even thicker |
| 09:32:51 | iLLf8d | cap my plan is |
| 09:33:06 | iLLf8d | keep the base say a 1.0 thickness |
| 09:33:24 | iLLf8d | have capturing team drop thru base onto platform directly below base |
| 09:33:30 | iLLf8d | then jump to land on base |
| 09:34:17 | captain_proton | the capture code works for when you land on a base - touch down, don't pass through it |
| 09:34:38 | iLLf8d | yeah I realize that |
| 09:34:45 | iLLf8d | listen |
| 09:34:52 | iLLf8d | when you make a deck 4 thick |
| 09:34:59 | iLLf8d | and jump from height you won't pass thru it |
| 09:35:09 | iLLf8d | if you make that same deck thinner some start to pass thru |
| 09:35:20 | captain_proton | thats not always true |
| 09:35:21 | iLLf8d | the thinner you go eventually all pass thru (from height) |
| 09:35:23 | captain_proton | depends on framerate |
| 09:35:31 | iLLf8d | so.... |
| 09:35:52 | iLLf8d | if you make it thin enough for passthru from height and put something substatial just below it |
| 09:35:53 | captain_proton | a massive framerate (like me at 640x480) won't even pass through 0.00001 |
| 09:36:00 | iLLf8d | you land on the substantial thing |
| 09:36:10 | iLLf8d | then a regular jump (which isn't really high) can landya on the base |
| 09:36:21 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 09:36:41 | iLLf8d | so my ctf field is gonna have to work on the honor system to a certain extent |
| 09:36:44 | captain_proton | and what about people who don't upgrade to e8 (assuming there even is an e8) |
| 09:36:52 | iLLf8d | ie people carrying flags off their bases |
| 09:37:12 | iLLf8d | take a look at my latest creation |
| 09:37:15 | iLLf8d | I'll put it up |
| 09:37:56 | iLLf8d | checkout tanks climb |
| 09:38:41 | iLLf8d | PLAYER_MUST_CARRY_THEIR_FLAG_OFF_BASE! |
| 09:38:44 | iLLf8d | check out that field |
| 09:38:50 | iLLf8d | l8tr.ath.cx 5155 |
| 09:38:54 | jp_zZZ | nights. |
| 09:39:13 | iLLf8d | wrong one |
| 09:40:11 | iLLf8d | ok |
| 09:40:12 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 09:49:10 | iLLf8d | you in still? |
| 09:49:16 | iLLf8d | my client locks up when I try to join |
| 09:49:19 | iLLf8d | I dunno whats going on |
| 09:49:37 | captain_proton | got kicked |
| 09:50:27 | iLLf8d | kicked? |
| 09:50:29 | iLLf8d | oh hmm |
| 09:50:33 | iLLf8d | my machine almost locked up |
| 09:50:38 | iLLf8d | i'll add in the pyramids |
| 09:50:43 | iLLf8d | as markers for the climb |
| 09:51:05 | iLLf8d | whatya think of the concept? |
| 09:51:06 | captain_proton | well, dropped |
| 09:51:20 | captain_proton | interesting |
| 09:51:27 | iLLf8d | once at the top the teleporter brings you to their bases |
| 09:51:33 | iLLf8d | so you can get a point |
| 09:51:33 | captain_proton | almost as infurating as trying to scale the scoreboard in ballpark |
| 09:51:40 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 09:51:46 | captain_proton | how do you know which teleporter is which? |
| 09:51:51 | iLLf8d | tho i'll have easy and harder boards |
| 09:51:59 | iLLf8d | you can see the colored base |
| 09:52:07 | iLLf8d | they're the onces closest to the base |
| 09:52:12 | captain_proton | mmmm |
| 09:52:15 | iLLf8d | I may but an R and G over them |
| 09:53:22 | captain_proton | it'd be cool if you could devise an algorithm to generate a different pillar each time |
| 09:55:06 | captain_proton | hmm - you could make the base even smaller |
| 09:55:16 | captain_proton | then the honor system is almost perfect |
| 09:55:41 | iLLf8d | well how small can I make it? |
| 09:55:45 | iLLf8d | its 1x1 now |
| 09:55:52 | iLLf8d | I'll try for .01x.01 |
| 09:56:52 | captain_proton | not quite that small |
| 09:56:55 | captain_proton | maybe 0.5x0.5 |
| 10:00:21 | captain_proton | ergh @ this math |
| 10:04:16 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 10:04:24 | iLLf8d | woa dude |
| 10:04:31 | iLLf8d | my gfs bzflag was buggy as piss |
| 10:04:34 | iLLf8d | I even restarted it |
| 10:04:48 | iLLf8d | it had you start ont eh field although the base was in the air |
| 10:04:54 | iLLf8d | the bottom of the boxes were missing |
| 10:04:59 | iLLf8d | and there were invisible blocks |
| 10:05:12 | captain_proton | ?? |
| 10:05:17 | iLLf8d | maybe sims messed it up |
| 10:05:21 | captain_proton | what version? |
| 10:05:22 | iLLf8d | she was playing that earlier |
| 10:05:24 | iLLf8d | e5 |
| 10:05:36 | iLLf8d | its never been bad before |
| 10:05:39 | iLLf8d | just on that field |
| 10:05:48 | iLLf8d | then again she's never played sims first either |
| 10:06:00 | captain_proton | i gotta go to bed |
| 10:06:02 | iLLf8d | maybe its doing something to the windows modes libs modes or something |
| 10:06:14 | iLLf8d | night =) |
| 11:05:58 | Condon_bot | hi |
| 12:27:59 | tad | woohoo bzflag is on the top 10 most active on sourceforge.... |
| 12:30:52 | Han | pretty amazing for a 10 year old game |
| 12:32:58 | tad | heh |
| 12:59:16 | Guardian-hislady | moo |
| 13:09:45 | tad | moocow |
| 13:11:54 | tad | bah @ mozilla |
| 13:36:33 | akira_ | moin |
| 13:42:46 | arathorn | hi all |
| 13:48:31 | Han | Heej it's aragorns dad :) |
| 13:48:51 | Han | Thought you have dies long time ago. |
| 13:48:57 | Han | had died |
| 14:44:51 | no | hmm |
| 14:44:53 | no | widget? |
| 14:44:55 | no | you here? |
| 14:45:42 | taD | if you are... send me the particle system code.... |
| 14:48:49 | taD | bah, 1.8 takes a long time to compile..... |
| 14:50:34 | | captain_proton was last seen on #bzflag 4 hours, 44 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: i gotta go to bed [Sat Jun 22 11:06:00 2002] |
| 14:50:34 | taD | ibot seen captain_proton |
| 14:50:39 | taD | ah |
| 14:50:43 | | widget was last seen on #bzflag 6 hours, 53 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying: I shall go to ducati. [Sat Jun 22 08:57:28 2002] |
| 14:50:43 | taD | ibot seen widget |
| 14:54:57 | | chestal was last seen on #bzflag 15 hours, 51 minutes and 47 seconds ago, saying: ok, I'm going to book+bed, cu [Sat Jun 22 00:03:10 2002] |
| 14:54:57 | taD | ibot seen chestal |
| 14:55:19 | | illf8d was last seen on #bzflag 4 hours, 49 minutes and 5 seconds ago, saying: night =) [Sat Jun 22 11:06:14 2002] |
| 14:55:19 | taD | ibot seen illf8d |
| 14:56:19 | | han was last seen on #bzflag 1 hours, 7 minutes and 22 seconds ago, saying: had died [Sat Jun 22 14:48:57 2002] |
| 14:56:19 | taD | ibot seen han |
| 14:56:29 | | bzbot was last seen on #bzflag 16 hours, 1 minutes and 17 seconds ago, saying: Ginku (Red):-25 (133 wins, 158 losses). binky (Green):-177 (90 wins, 267 losses). M1 (Red):19 (426 wins, 407 losses). Bom Bom (Red):-129 (162 wins, 291 losses). Wingding (Green):23 (64 wins, 41 losses). Brain (Green):-65 (39 wins, 104 losses). Zig (Green):64 (99 wins, 35 losses). Vigadu (Red):-74 (153 wins, 227 losses). @ (Red):0 (0 wins, 0 losses). [Fri Jun 21 23:55:12 2002] |
| 14:56:29 | taD | ibot seen bzbot |
| 14:56:43 | | goofey was last seen on #bzflag 6 hours, 59 minutes and 30 seconds ago, saying: Widget: nice to talk to you [Sat Jun 22 08:57:13 2002] |
| 14:56:43 | taD | ibot seen goofey |
| 14:56:54 | | I haven't seen 'chanserv', taD |
| 14:56:54 | taD | ibot seen chanserv |
| 14:57:06 | | yoyox was last seen on #bzflag 6 days, 19 hours, 38 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying: Condon: Alive?:> [Sat Jun 15 20:18:17 2002] |
| 14:57:06 | taD | ibot seen yoyox |
| 14:59:02 | iLLf8d | yeah |
| 14:59:09 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 14:59:19 | iLLf8d | alotta cheaters on tonight many many |
| 14:59:26 | iLLf8d | playing ctf... |
| 14:59:35 | iLLf8d | bring flag to base opposite team blows up |
| 14:59:39 | iLLf8d | geno shots from anyone |
| 14:59:44 | iLLf8d | including me |
| 14:59:49 | iLLf8d | tho no geno on field |
| 14:59:55 | iLLf8d | fucked up shit |
| 15:00:04 | iLLf8d | my own server too so they're redirecting it |
| 15:05:57 | taD | ?? |
| 15:05:59 | taD | really? |
| 15:06:01 | iLLf8d | yeah |
| 15:06:04 | taD | thats |
| 15:06:06 | taD | wierd |
| 15:06:07 | taD | like |
| 15:06:09 | taD | very |
| 15:06:10 | taD | wierd |
| 15:06:10 | iLLf8d | found a few cheaters on a few fields |
| 15:06:15 | taD | heh |
| 15:06:17 | taD | e6 |
| 15:06:18 | iLLf8d | dunno which is the one to ban tho |
| 15:06:19 | iLLf8d | so ... |
| 15:06:25 | taD | new code to hack up... |
| 15:06:30 | iLLf8d | not really |
| 15:06:31 | taD | I guess |
| 15:06:32 | taD | hmm |
| 15:06:34 | iLLf8d | they just use their own client |
| 15:06:39 | taD | yea |
| 15:06:40 | taD | hmm |
| 15:06:41 | iLLf8d | the server is e5 really |
| 15:06:45 | iLLf8d | not that it matters |
| 15:06:50 | taD | 1.8 is taking forever to compile.... |
| 15:06:54 | iLLf8d | most things are handled clientside |
| 15:06:56 | taD | heh |
| 15:06:58 | iLLf8d | thats why they can do that shit |
| 15:07:02 | taD | yea |
| 15:07:10 | taD | get server 1.8 |
| 15:07:11 | taD | :) |
| 15:07:15 | taD | no cheating there.... |
| 15:07:38 | taD | but of course, you would have no players...... |
| 15:07:51 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 15:08:01 | taD | hmm |
| 15:08:18 | taD | could you try something out? |
| 15:08:29 | taD | goto http://208.147.39.133:5801 |
| 15:09:10 | iLLf8d | sure |
| 15:09:38 | iLLf8d | says tadxdesk |
| 15:09:43 | iLLf8d | and theres a broken image |
| 15:09:58 | iLLf8d | oh its java |
| 15:10:05 | iLLf8d | don't have java setup in galeon |
| 15:11:05 | taD | ah |
| 15:11:09 | taD | good |
| 15:11:13 | taD | at least it works..... |
| 15:11:57 | taD | sheesh |
| 15:12:04 | taD | still compiling...... |
| 15:13:10 | | Guardian-hislady was last seen on #bzflag 2 hours, 13 minutes and 54 seconds ago, saying: moo [Sat Jun 22 13:59:16 2002] |
| 15:13:10 | taD | ibot seen Guardian-hislady |
| 15:13:24 | taD | <snort> |
| 15:17:20 | iLLf8d | why do you keep checking? |
| 15:17:40 | taD | dunno |
| 15:17:42 | taD | bored |
| 15:17:45 | taD | :) |
| 15:17:50 | taD | still compiling..... |
| 15:17:52 | taD | ................................. |
| 15:17:59 | taD | bah |
| 15:18:03 | Han | He has never had the feeling somebody listened to him ;) |
| 15:18:03 | | MortimeR was last seen on #bzflag 5 days, 16 hours, 40 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying: no, se me bloqueo la consola (la pantalla y el teclado) y tuve que reiniciar [Sun Jun 16 23:37:45 2002] |
| 15:18:03 | taD | ibot seen MortimeR |
| 15:18:13 | taD | lol |
| 15:18:17 | taD | Han lol |
| 15:18:28 | Han | :) |
| 15:18:47 | taD | bah |
| 15:19:24 | taD | kdevelop? |
| 15:19:39 | taD | cool |
| 15:20:23 | taD | gy? |
| 15:20:26 | taD | gt? |
| 15:20:27 | taD | hmm |
| 15:20:32 | | iLLf8d was last seen on #bzflag 3 minutes and 12 seconds ago, saying: why do you keep checking? [Sat Jun 22 16:17:20 2002] |
| 15:20:32 | taD | ibot seen iLLf8d |
| 15:22:08 | | jp_zZZ was last seen on #bzflag 5 hours, 43 minutes and 14 seconds ago, saying: nights. [Sat Jun 22 10:38:54 2002] |
| 15:22:08 | taD | ibot seen jp_zZZ |
| 15:22:24 | | tad was last seen on #bzflag 0 seconds ago, saying: ibot seen tad [Sat Jun 22 16:22:24 2002] |
| 15:22:24 | taD | ibot seen tad |
| 15:22:30 | taD | oh |
| 15:23:50 | taD | SHEESH! |
| 15:23:53 | taD | its done |
| 15:26:32 | tad | bah |
| 15:26:36 | tad | 1.8 crashed |
| 15:29:24 | tad | second time it crashed |
| 15:29:27 | tad | oh well..... |
| 17:29:52 | patlabor221 | what is the name of the X config thing? |
| 18:15:07 | patlabor221 | heya cap |
| 18:20:10 | captain_proton | yo |
| 18:20:12 | jpablo | any team here will play today ? |
| 18:21:38 | tAd_ | bah |
| 18:21:41 | tAd_ | :) |
| 18:28:26 | Chestal | jpablo; I can try all alone ;-) |
| 18:28:45 | teA_ | im back .......... :) |
| 18:29:03 | jolly | hello |
| 18:30:55 | jpablo | Chestal: hehe. |
| 18:31:23 | Chestal | hi jolly |
| 18:31:33 | Chestal | well, maybe we'll find an opponent tomorrow |
| 18:32:00 | Chestal | jpablo: I can try and gather my team on another day for a match against you, maybe next week |
| 18:33:05 | jpablo | ok. |
| 18:33:20 | jpablo | we are always ready. |
| 18:33:41 | Chestal | what time can you play at? earliest? |
| 18:35:04 | Chestal | ibot, x de en Brennessel |
| 18:35:05 | | Chestal: Brennessel |
| 18:35:12 | Chestal | ibot: x de en Brennnessel |
| 18:35:13 | | Chestal: Brennnessel |
| 18:35:16 | | ACTION shits itself. |
| 18:35:16 | Chestal | ibot: dumb bot |
| 18:35:23 | jpablo | Chestal: 12am UTC. |
| 18:35:23 | jolly | lol |
| 18:35:43 | Chestal | jpablo: uh, that's very late for us, 2am here |
| 18:36:07 | jpablo | on saturday we can play since 10am. |
| 18:36:39 | Chestal | hmm, that would be possible, we can maybe try next week |
| 18:37:44 | jpablo | wait i'm wrong. |
| 18:38:15 | jpablo | on saturdays we can play on this time maybe 20 minutes more. |
| 18:38:29 | jpablo | that would be 19 utc i think. |
| 18:39:06 | iLLf8d | hey chestal someones gotta tell onthemark about this stuff |
| 18:39:22 | iLLf8d | I think he wants his team to play tho I don't think he's available till sunday iirc |
| 18:39:36 | Chestal | is onthemark the leader of the 14 player team? |
| 18:39:53 | jpablo | wow 14. |
| 18:41:12 | Chestal | all those silent teams... |
| 18:41:57 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 18:42:00 | iLLf8d | dunno maybe |
| 18:42:08 | iLLf8d | i'll take a look |
| 18:42:18 | jolly | he is |
| 18:42:19 | Chestal | the "Northern Alliance" |
| 18:42:57 | iLLf8d | yeah thats it |
| 18:43:10 | iLLf8d | you run icq chestal? |
| 18:43:27 | Chestal | ill: kinda, using gaim here |
| 18:43:47 | iLLf8d | do you ahve the icq thing running |
| 18:43:50 | iLLf8d | the plugin |
| 18:43:52 | Chestal | utilizing AIM's icq gateway, so I cannot use the whoel functionality |
| 18:44:03 | iLLf8d | thats his icq number |
| 18:45:09 | Chestal | isn't onlien right now, I can only send msgs to ppl who are online |
| 18:45:16 | teA_ | chestal ? |
| 18:45:24 | teA_ | kennst irgenwelche gute lieder |
| 18:45:28 | iLLf8d | uhm... |
| 18:45:31 | iLLf8d | you sure? |
| 18:45:32 | Chestal | tea: ehm? |
| 18:45:35 | Chestal | yep |
| 18:45:47 | iLLf8d | if its via licq you should be albe to leave him an offline messge |
| 18:45:55 | Chestal | I think you can send msgs to offlien ICQ users, but not with the aim gateway |
| 18:46:00 | iLLf8d | dunno if gaim does it or not I run both never tried |
| 18:46:03 | teA_ | ...... chestal |
| 18:46:05 | iLLf8d | ah hmm |
| 18:46:16 | Chestal | at least I think so |
| 18:46:19 | teA_ | tankenstein : know any good songs ? |
| 18:46:48 | Chestal | is listenign to Supertramp - School right now |
| 18:47:11 | iLLf8d | uhm what kinda songs |
| 18:47:30 | iLLf8d | ie what genre of music? |
| 18:47:43 | iLLf8d | and don't say country |
| 18:48:00 | tAd_ | hmmm, jedermann hier in Heidelberg? |
| 18:48:07 | Han | Supertramp is symphonical pop music from the 80 |
| 18:48:13 | teA_ | hey |
| 18:48:48 | iLLf8d | you don't know what supertramp is heh |
| 18:48:57 | iLLf8d | they sing the logical song |
| 18:49:07 | iLLf8d | probably one of their biggest hits |
| 18:49:31 | iLLf8d | hmm unless i'm tired and getting my bands crosswired |
| 18:51:17 | tAd_ | MUAMUAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 18:51:18 | tAd_ | http://www.spudtech.com/ |
| 18:53:56 | captain_proton | hmm no tim |
| 18:54:06 | | bzflag was last seen on #bzflag 9 hours, 56 minutes and 48 seconds ago, saying: nite [Sat Jun 22 09:57:18 2002] |
| 18:54:06 | tAd_ | ibot seen bzflag |
| 18:54:35 | tAd_ | what is a Starch Resource Deployment Facilitator? |
| 18:56:04 | iLLf8d | I bbl all cya |
| 18:58:37 | | Widget was last seen on #bzflag 11 hours, 1 minutes and 9 seconds ago, saying: I shall go to ducati. [Sat Jun 22 08:57:28 2002] |
| 18:58:37 | goofey | ibot seen Widget |
| 18:58:50 | goofey | thanks ibot |
| 18:59:07 | | :) |
| 18:59:07 | tAd_ | ibot botsnack |
| 18:59:33 | Widget | hihihi |
| 18:59:46 | Widget | Guten morgen. |
| 19:00:02 | tAd_ | ja |
| 19:00:17 | tAd_ | dieselben zu Ihnen |
| 19:00:38 | captain_proton | boggles |
| 19:00:52 | tAd_ | überprüfen Sie dieses heraus http://www.spudtech.com/spudgun_primer.html |
| 19:00:55 | Widget | cries. |
| 19:01:00 | Widget | How could Turkey win? |
| 19:01:05 | Widget | Those cruel, cruel people. |
| 19:01:14 | tAd_ | slaps both of you and yells QUIET!!!! |
| 19:01:26 | Widget | At least Turkey won. Woooooooooohooooooooooooooo! |
| 19:01:55 | tAd_ | chuckles gleafully as he makes turkey win |
| 19:02:14 | Widget | Er.... |
| 19:02:18 | tAd_ | cant spell for the life of him |
| 19:02:19 | Widget | At least Korea won. Woooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooo! |
| 19:02:22 | Widget | That's what I meant. |
| 19:02:24 | Widget | Not Turkey. |
| 19:02:26 | tAd_ | LOL! |
| 19:02:28 | Widget | Stupid Turkey. |
| 19:02:35 | tAd_ | gooble |
| 19:02:39 | tAd_ | gobble |
| 19:02:41 | tAd_ | hmm |
| 19:03:37 | Widget | One day New Zealand will win the World Cup. |
| 19:03:40 | tAd_ | Widget: Was ist eine Stärkehilfsmittelentwicklung Facilitator? |
| 19:04:04 | tAd_ | er |
| 19:04:07 | tAd_ | long name |
| 19:04:17 | Widget | tAd_: ??? |
| 19:04:20 | tAd_ | hehe |
| 19:04:25 | Widget | tAd_: Ich spreche nicht deutsch. |
| 19:04:29 | tAd_ | What is a Starch Resource Deployment Facilitator? |
| 19:04:43 | captain_proton | tAd_: google it |
| 19:04:51 | tAd_ | I know what it is |
| 19:04:59 | captain_proton | then shut up |
| 19:05:00 | tAd_ | I am windering if widget oes |
| 19:05:02 | tAd_ | does |
| 19:05:13 | Widget | Ich spreche. |
| 19:05:15 | Widget | Sie sprechen. |
| 19:05:17 | Widget | Er spricht. |
| 19:05:20 | Widget | Sie spricht. |
| 19:05:23 | Widget | Wir sprechen. |
| 19:05:51 | tAd_ | shuts his mouth and pokes captain_proton with a spear |
| 19:06:03 | Widget | Ich laufe. |
| 19:06:05 | Widget | Sie laufen. |
| 19:06:13 | Widget | Er läuft. |
| 19:06:16 | tAd_ | ah |
| 19:06:20 | Widget | Er läuft. |
| 19:06:25 | Widget | Wir laufen. |
| 19:06:45 | tAd_ | bah |
| 19:06:49 | tAd_ | I dont run |
| 19:06:51 | tAd_ | I walk |
| 19:07:03 | Widget | loves to conjugate German verbs. |
| 19:07:38 | Widget | Ich gehe. |
| 19:07:40 | Widget | Sie gehen. |
| 19:07:41 | Widget | Er geht. |
| 19:07:43 | Widget | Sie geht. |
| 19:07:45 | tAd_ | hits Widget with a german dictionary |
| 19:07:47 | Widget | Wir gehen. |
| 19:08:02 | Widget | tAd_: Much harder than English. Why can't you simplify things? |
| 19:08:24 | tAd_ | dunno |
| 19:08:40 | tAd_ | me thinks its easy to learn |
| 19:09:09 | Widget | Now for irregular verbs. |
| 19:09:10 | tAd_ | all right |
| 19:09:13 | tAd_ | NO NO!!! |
| 19:09:15 | tAd_ | STOP!! |
| 19:09:40 | Widget | Ich bin. |
| 19:09:43 | Widget | Sie sind. |
| 19:09:45 | Widget | Er ist. |
| 19:09:46 | Widget | Sir ist. |
| 19:09:48 | Widget | Wir sind. |
| 19:10:10 | Widget | Poor fellow. |
| 19:10:21 | tAd_ | ?? |
| 19:10:33 | tAd_ | has to go clean his desk |
| 19:11:09 | tAd_ | Widget: join #german_lessons_by_widget |
| 19:11:11 | Widget | I think Chinese should be the language of the internet. |
| 19:14:26 | captain_proton | more english speakers are online than chinese speakers |
| 19:15:06 | tAd_ | ja |
| 19:19:11 | teA_ | lol |
| 19:19:27 | captain_proton | sees Widget stuttering |
| 19:19:37 | captain_proton | but...but...but... |
| 19:19:53 | teA_ | i can speak german :) |
| 19:22:43 | tAd_ | monitor is being raised up by a Physicians' Desk Reference |
| 19:23:14 | tAd_ | book about 4 inches thick |
| 19:28:39 | patlabor221 | so are the nvidia redhat drivers designe to be a pain to install? |
| 19:29:43 | captain_proton | they should be pretty easy |
| 19:30:03 | patlabor221 | I did what they say, now x won't start |
| 19:30:13 | patlabor221 | can't init kernel module |
| 19:30:20 | captain_proton | modprobe NVdriver |
| 19:30:57 | patlabor221 | says it has unresolved symbols |
| 19:31:07 | captain_proton | erk |
| 19:31:19 | captain_proton | get the NVIDIA_kernel source tarball |
| 19:31:29 | patlabor221 | I did the 2 rpms that they had |
| 19:31:56 | goofey | is back (gone 11:58:18) |
| 19:32:18 | goofey | yo Widget, what's the name of the town you live in? |
| 19:32:35 | teA_ | ...mine is munich |
| 19:32:44 | goofey | I talked to my frind this monring - whe wanted to know |
| 19:32:45 | teA_ | well you know bayern munich ? |
| 19:33:05 | goofey | munich? Never been, I heard it's fun |
| 19:33:34 | goofey | Widget must be afk... |
| 19:33:35 | Widget | hihihi |
| 19:33:37 | Widget | is back. |
| 19:33:39 | goofey | oh, hey |
| 19:33:40 | Widget | goofey: Invercargill. |
| 19:34:04 | goofey | cool, turns out the month she pent in NZ was all on the south island |
| 19:34:12 | goofey | and the base she was at was ross island |
| 19:34:13 | Widget | Oh, so she didn't visit Auckland? |
| 19:34:17 | patlabor221 | cap: how do I make x not try to start every 5 min |
| 19:34:25 | goofey | just to switch planes |
| 19:34:31 | Widget | goofey: Oh, OK. |
| 19:34:45 | captain_proton | patlabor221: does it boot into a graphical login screen? |
| 19:34:50 | patlabor221 | no |
| 19:34:53 | patlabor221 | just flashes |
| 19:34:58 | goofey | she said the other us base is closer to chile |
| 19:35:02 | Widget | patlabor221: Look in your logs. |
| 19:35:08 | Widget | goofey: There are lots of US bases. |
| 19:35:16 | goofey | 3 |
| 19:35:17 | patlabor221 | caP: then says that it can't start x for 5 min |
| 19:35:18 | captain_proton | patlabor221: i mean before you tried to setup the nvidia drivers |
| 19:35:29 | goofey | sout pole, ross island, and another one |
| 19:35:38 | goofey | plus tons of other countries' bases |
| 19:35:48 | patlabor221 | cap: yeah it did |
| 19:35:50 | tAd_ | is this redhat? |
| 19:35:52 | goofey | "all you base" and all that |
| 19:36:01 | goofey | :) |
| 19:36:01 | patlabor221 | cap: it was a fresh install of redhat 7.3 |
| 19:36:06 | tAd_ | goto #redhat or #linux |
| 19:36:16 | captain_proton | patlabor221: edit /etc/inittab, change initdefault to 3 |
| 19:36:19 | tAd_ | #redhat should help ya |
| 19:36:19 | Widget | goofey: Yes, we have a lot. |
| 19:36:33 | goofey | did you see the korean goal last night? |
| 19:36:47 | Widget | goofey: Yes. |
| 19:36:56 | Widget | Won on Penalty time. But w00000000h00000000000!!!!! |
| 19:36:58 | goofey | must have been chaos |
| 19:37:20 | Widget | Korea must be having a shortage of red and blue materials. |
| 19:37:32 | goofey | no kidding |
| 19:38:04 | Widget | has many Korean friends. |
| 19:38:08 | Widget | Hiddink for President! |
| 19:38:20 | Widget | Hiddink for President! |
| 19:38:33 | goofey | president of what? |
| 19:38:57 | Widget | I dunno. |
| 19:38:59 | Widget | Korea, I guess. |
| 19:39:07 | tAd_ | mars |
| 19:39:18 | Widget | You know, he has been given honorary Korean citizenship. |
| 19:39:29 | goofey | cool |
| 19:39:32 | Widget | The first foreigner ever to get that. |
| 19:39:37 | Widget | Because he got Korea into the semis. :) |
| 19:40:29 | goofey | amazing, the first? |
| 19:40:46 | goofey | isn't he a northern european? |
| 19:40:55 | Widget | He's Dutch. |
| 19:41:47 | Widget | It's ironic that Spain won against Ireland by penalties. |
| 19:41:54 | Widget | And now they lost to Korea by them. |
| 19:47:06 | goofey | it's been a crazy world cup |
| 20:00:30 | jpablo | maybe we can do a bzworld cup. |
| 20:00:41 | Skipp | lol |
| 20:01:35 | captain_proton | what we should do is have a tournament with a variety of completely new worlds |
| 20:01:48 | captain_proton | to see who is the best all-around player (adaptation & such) |
| 20:02:41 | jpablo | just new worlds or new worlds and different rules ? |
| 20:03:07 | captain_proton | just new worlds for now |
| 20:03:38 | jpablo | well rigth now the worlds are random generated. |
| 20:03:43 | jpablo | so it's a new world every game. |
| 20:03:47 | captain_proton | no - new custom worlds |
| 20:04:08 | captain_proton | get about 4 people to crank out 10 new worlds |
| 20:04:55 | jpablo | that would be interesting. |
| 20:05:05 | captain_proton | the idea being to come up with new challenges |
| 20:05:18 | captain_proton | like tank's climb |
| 20:06:23 | jpablo | humm. |
| 20:06:52 | jpablo | there's a problem with the deffinition of who win in: http://www.bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=faq |
| 20:07:08 | jpablo | what about if a team have 0 and the other -1 ? |
| 20:07:18 | captain_proton | that can't happen |
| 20:07:22 | jpablo | humm. |
| 20:07:32 | captain_proton | no team can have negative flag captures |
| 20:07:59 | jpablo | well it's what the page say: |
| 20:08:06 | jpablo | After the match is over, the team with a score >0 is the winner. If both teams have a score of 0, it is a draw. |
| 20:08:24 | captain_proton | oh thats adjusted score |
| 20:08:30 | jpablo | i think if you capture your flag youself you loose a point don't you ? |
| 20:08:48 | captain_proton | possibly - but the other team gains a point (i believe) |
| 20:09:16 | jpablo | i have seen flags scores like 12 & -11 |
| 20:09:18 | Chestal | jpablo: I am not sure, maybe you're right. can be easily fixed by changign it to 'team with the higher score' |
| 20:09:48 | Chestal | jpablo: but that might have been due to all peopel from one team leaving? |
| 20:10:32 | jpablo | humm, dunno. |
| 20:10:55 | jpablo | i will test when someone player arrives here. |
| 20:11:01 | Chestal | well, I guess the ref should have no problems to deice which team has won |
| 20:11:22 | Chestal | and there hasn't been a draw yet |
| 20:11:24 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 20:11:27 | captain_proton | ressurection is growing |
| 20:11:28 | jpablo | yeah, but some people may complain. |
| 20:11:38 | jpablo | we better avoid that. |
| 20:11:44 | captain_proton | is away: getting beat up |
| 20:12:38 | Chestal | hmm, indeed angela and spike |
| 20:12:41 | Chestal | never heard of spike |
| 20:13:02 | jpablo | i have seend spike around in ducati. |
| 20:13:06 | Chestal | 4 penguins now |
| 20:14:02 | Chestal | well, I'm off for now |
| 20:14:17 | jpablo | see you. |
| 20:42:01 | jpablo | [TeA|TrEE]: |
| 20:42:25 | jpablo | [TeA|TrEE]: when your team can play ? |
| 21:26:41 | Condon | hi |
| 21:26:47 | tAd_ | bye |
| 21:26:50 | tAd_ | :P |
| 21:26:52 | tAd_ | heh |
| 21:26:55 | tAd_ | hmm |
| 21:27:01 | MortimeR | hi |
| 21:27:02 | | condon was last seen on #bzflag 21 seconds ago, saying: hi [Sat Jun 22 22:26:41 2002] |
| 21:27:02 | tAd_ | ibot seen condon |
| 21:27:07 | tAd_ | ah |
| 21:27:21 | jpablo | Condon: is your team around ? |
| 21:27:44 | Condon | japblo: no - only 2 of us |
| 21:28:03 | jpablo | well, let me know is you get complete. |
| 21:28:13 | Condon | jpablo: OK |
| 21:28:48 | Condon | U know what? This mundial is now a piece of ..... |
| 21:29:29 | Condon | It's not team play, but referee's play |
| 21:30:10 | Condon | damn, I don't like my car already (its hyundai);-) |
| 21:33:32 | | dinah was last seen on #opie 2 days, 19 hours, 5 minutes and 9 seconds ago, saying: <private message> [Thu Jun 20 03:28:23 2002] |
| 21:33:32 | Condon | ibot seen dinah |
| 21:34:25 | | Izto was last seen on #bzflag 13 days, 2 hours, 12 minutes and 5 seconds ago, saying: I've to leave.. thanks all for a great game :) [Sun Jun 9 20:22:20 2002] |
| 21:34:25 | Condon | ibot seen Izto |
| 21:34:34 | | I haven't seen 'percy', Condon |
| 21:34:34 | Condon | ibot seen percy |
| 21:35:22 | MortimeR | It seems we are not going to play today |
| 21:36:01 | Condon | yes - I havent seen dinah so long |
| 21:43:41 | MortimeR | I go |
| 21:43:51 | MortimeR | goodbye |
| 21:58:35 | goofey | bzbot: what do you know? |
| 22:09:58 | tAd_ | bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:09:59 | bzbot | Red: 4 players, score: 2 | Green: 4 players, score: 0 | |
| 22:10:22 | tAd_ | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:10:23 | tAd_ | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59000 |
| 22:10:23 | bzbot | sd (Red):-16 (144 wins, 160 losses). SATAN (Red):2 (7 wins, 5 losses). MIRELLA (Green):5 (40 wins, 35 losses). Jonny (Green):47 (229 wins, 182 losses). nobody (Green):-56 (71 wins, 127 losses). [TLZ] w339 (Red):-19 (107 wins, 126 losses). Satan's Evil Twin (Red):-13 (34 wins, 47 losses). Brain (Green):-23 (11 wins, 34 losses). |
| 22:10:23 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 22:10:50 | tAd_ | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 5156 |
| 22:10:50 | tAd_ | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59000 |
| 22:10:51 | tAd_ | bzfquerylong ducati.bzflag.org 59001 |
| 22:10:51 | bzbot | sd (Red):-16 (145 wins, 161 losses). SATAN (Red):0 (7 wins, 7 losses). MIRELLA (Green):6 (42 wins, 36 losses). Jonny (Green):47 (231 wins, 184 losses). nobody (Green):-56 (72 wins, 128 losses). [TLZ] w339 (Red):-20 (107 wins, 127 losses). Satan's Evil Twin (Red):-13 (37 wins, 50 losses). Brain (Green):-23 (11 wins, 34 losses). |
| 22:10:51 | bzbot | Server is empty |
| 22:10:51 | bzbot | Connection refused |
| 23:36:45 | captain_proton | hey Skipp |
| 23:36:53 | captain_proton | how goes the fire? |
| 23:38:34 | lamer | BZFlag: sup man |
| 23:38:38 | lamer | BZFlag: you here? |
| 23:39:21 | captain_proton | need help with something? |
| 23:39:26 | lamer | yeah |
| 23:39:37 | lamer | i'm the package maintainer for gentoo |
| 23:39:49 | lamer | and i'm trying to get bzflag to compile with silly gcc3.1 |
| 23:39:57 | lamer | not having much luck :-( |
| 23:40:07 | captain_proton | what errors are you getting? |
| 23:41:02 | lamer | i'm trying to ascertain which are most important.... |
| 23:41:14 | lamer | it looks like _most_ of the stuff builds |
| 23:41:20 | lamer | but i get no binary |
| 23:41:33 | captain_proton | PM me a log of all the errors? |
| 23:41:54 | lamer | PM? |
| 23:41:59 | captain_proton | /msg |
| 23:42:01 | lamer | ah |
| 23:42:01 | lamer | heh |
| 23:52:17 | tAd_ | heh |
| 23:52:18 | tAd_ | hey |
| 23:52:21 | tAd_ | cappy |
| 23:52:30 | tAd_ | 1.8 will NOT run on my system |
| 23:52:34 | tAd_ | CVS |
| 23:52:38 | tAd_ | will not run |
| 23:52:45 | captain_proton | tAd_: explain |
| 23:52:46 | tAd_ | it freezes after about 10 sec |
| 23:52:54 | tAd_ | have to kill it to get out |
| 23:53:01 | captain_proton | segfault? what |
| 23:53:06 | tAd_ | dunno |
| 23:53:12 | tAd_ | it just freezes |
| 23:53:24 | tAd_ | and then I have to kill bzflag to get back in |
| 23:53:26 | tAd_ | wierd |
| 23:53:32 | tAd_ | must be a bug on my system |
| 23:53:59 | tAd_ | dinner time... |
| 23:54:46 | tAd_ | is away for dinner, please leave a message after the tone. |
| 23:57:54 | BZFlag | lamer: sux to be you huh? ;-) |
| 23:58:01 | lamer | hehe |
| 23:58:05 | lamer | ;-) |
| 23:58:10 | lamer | BZFlag: what's up man? |
| 23:58:24 | BZFlag | 1.8 will build fine with 3.1 but then you can't play anyone with 1.7 |
| 23:58:40 | BZFlag | headed to OLS next week. anyone there going? |
| 23:58:50 | lamer | i bet okeefe will be |
| 23:58:53 | lamer | not sure though |
| 23:59:01 | lamer | maybe some of the UK guys |
| 23:59:04 | BZFlag | tell him to look me up if he goes. |
| 23:59:08 | lamer | i will |
| 23:59:12 | BZFlag | sweet. |
| 23:59:23 | lamer | he'll prolly try to hire you again ;-) |
| 23:59:32 | tAd_ | OLS? |
| 23:59:56 | tAd_ | OLS? what is that> |
