| 00:08:23 | Chestal | good n8! |
| 00:38:43 | scanline | is away: lab time |
| 00:58:23 | almogaver | ibot: x es en osado |
| 00:58:25 | | almogaver: dared |
| 01:49:12 | jpablo | somebody must port bzflag to aalib. |
| 01:52:38 | vogon_jeltz | is away: Away, motherbitches; do you read it? |
| 02:45:52 | captain_proton | jpablo: use vogon_jeltz's SDL stuff - that can do aalib |
| 02:55:07 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: no, it can't. |
| 02:55:12 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: aalib's only available through SDL for 2D apps. |
| 04:42:24 | captain_proton | yo |
| 06:19:19 | onthemark | hi all |
| 06:21:06 | scanline | is back (gone 05:42:23) |
| 06:53:06 | scanline | is away: more labs... |
| 08:14:08 | ruudi | hi |
| 08:42:35 | captain_proton | Chestal: i found it |
| 09:14:19 | Chestal | captain: huh? what? |
| 12:54:15 | vogon_jeltz | is away: sleep, motherbitches; do you take it? |
| 16:26:23 | Ruudi | hi |
| 16:54:18 | Chestal | hi Ruudi |
| 17:31:24 | Chestal | hmm, score: 179 (545 wins, 366 losses) |
| 18:58:22 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 18:58:33 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 19:51:05 | scanline | is away: class |
| 20:30:53 | captain_proton | Chestal: still awake? |
| 20:41:09 | CobraA1 | Hello? |
| 20:41:23 | captain_proton | hello |
| 20:42:27 | CobraA1 | I'll have Debian by Friday; hopefully, I'll be able to get CVS of BZFlag and do some development soon after. |
| 20:42:40 | captain_proton | fun |
| 20:42:48 | CobraA1 | What's the current status, BTW? |
| 20:43:16 | captain_proton | i'm not sure anybody is really doing anything right now |
| 20:43:32 | CobraA1 | k. Any major bugs? |
| 20:43:36 | captain_proton | though crs is probably off in his cave coding up a storm |
| 20:43:45 | CobraA1 | LOL |
| 20:43:46 | captain_proton | in which branch? |
| 20:43:51 | CobraA1 | 1.8 |
| 20:44:33 | captain_proton | its missing some things - black hats, waving flags, tank parts when exploding |
| 20:45:15 | captain_proton | and for some reason people other than the firer don't see GM's track |
| 20:45:20 | CobraA1 | Would I be right in assuming it's not compatible with 1.7 servers? |
| 20:45:43 | captain_proton | yes |
| 20:46:57 | CobraA1 | k. |
| 20:47:19 | CobraA1 | Thanks for the update. |
| 20:53:49 | scanline | is back (gone 01:02:43) |
| 20:56:35 | Chestal | captain_proton: I'm here |
| 22:32:56 | almogaver | hi |
| 22:36:43 | Chestal | hi almo. You're using 56k, right? |
| 22:36:52 | almogaver | right |
| 22:38:22 | Chestal | almogaver: ok, I just checked your lagstats on ducati. Actualyl, I couldn't see a big differnce between odl and new lag measurement, oh well |
| 22:38:35 | Chestal | almogaver: you're using the new f5? |
| 22:38:53 | almogaver | i'm using e5 |
| 22:38:56 | almogaver | with ur radar patch |
| 22:39:03 | almogaver | and yes, i see the same lagstats |
| 22:39:12 | almogaver | but now i've two different stats |
| 22:39:25 | Chestal | yes, first is the old method, 2nd is the new method |
| 22:39:36 | almogaver | ah! |
| 22:39:41 | almogaver | it's almost the same |
| 22:39:48 | Chestal | I hoped that the 2nd would be more accurate. Well, at least it measure in regular intervals |
| 22:39:52 | almogaver | only a few ms of difference |
| 22:40:03 | almogaver | sometimes the 2nd method got worst resulst |
| 22:40:17 | almogaver | sometimes the 2nd is the best |
| 22:40:20 | Chestal | the first method only measures your lag whenever you shoot another tank |
| 22:40:34 | Chestal | the new method does it every 10s and it works by sending a ping message |
| 22:41:10 | Chestal | with e5/e6 serevr, you won't see two numbers. Only the new method will be used if available, reverting to the old one for e4 clients |
| 22:41:57 | almogaver | i'll do /lagstats a lot of times next time i play |
| 22:42:04 | Chestal | almogaver: if you have a high framerate, you might want to also apply the client side throttlign patch |
| 22:42:13 | almogaver | and i'll say you what i get |
| 22:42:38 | almogaver | ibot: x en es throttlign |
| 22:42:40 | | almogaver: |
| 22:42:43 | almogaver | nice |
| 22:43:03 | almogaver | stupid bot |
| 22:43:21 | Chestal | ibot: x en es throttling |
| 22:43:22 | | Chestal: |
| 22:43:29 | | Chestal: huh? |
| 22:43:29 | Chestal | ibot: hmm, still nothing :-) |
| 22:43:50 | Chestal | almogover: if your framerate is >30 fps, the patch migh treduce the numebr of mesasges sent by your client |
| 22:43:56 | almogaver | i think i know the meaning of throttlign |
| 22:43:59 | Chestal | almogover: this might help with low-bandwidth-connections |
| 22:44:15 | Chestal | almogover: it will help more if everyone uses it, I guess it will make it in e6 |
| 22:44:32 | almogaver | i can see it with "f" key, can't i? |
| 22:44:41 | Chestal | 't' |
| 22:45:10 | almogaver | i'll see, one minute |
| 22:46:55 | almogaver | yea, i remember to saw it |
| 22:47:04 | almogaver | i had between 25 and 40 all the time |
| 22:47:15 | almogaver | usually 30-35 |
| 22:47:18 | Chestal | hmm, then the patch won't do very much |
| 22:47:37 | Chestal | it restrict the message rate to at max 30 mssg/s, but you probably will never exceed that rate anyway |
| 22:47:50 | Chestal | it might help arathorn more, I guess he has a higher framerate |
| 22:48:23 | almogaver | i've 34 in ducati 5155 with no tanks |
| 22:56:21 | almogaver | i play with all graphics options on |
| 22:56:30 | almogaver | if play with less graphics will help me i'll do |
| 22:57:27 | Chestal | it might increase your framerate, but won't help your lag |
| 22:59:13 | almogaver | i got 45-50 with low quality |
| 22:59:26 | almogaver | and it's look good too |
| 22:59:39 | almogaver | and it looks good too |
| 23:01:21 | almogaver | will a better framerate help me? |
| 23:03:29 | Chestal | it mgiht help you to aim better :-) |
| 23:03:45 | Chestal | the higher the framerate the more the throttlign patch might help your lag |
| 23:04:50 | almogaver | ok, then the question is: will a better framerate help me if i install that patch? |
| 23:08:15 | Chestal | probably won't make a big difference |
| 23:08:30 | Chestal | if your framerate is not bothering you |
| 23:10:51 | almogaver | so it's a patch for good graphics cards or for bad ones? |
| 23:10:55 | almogaver | i think i'm not following you |
| 23:13:21 | almogaver | i got a bug with e4 |
| 23:13:26 | almogaver | but it's not tested with e5 |
| 23:13:46 | almogaver | when you think a message regarding you taked a flag |
| 23:13:49 | almogaver | that there isn't |
| 23:13:57 | almogaver | the client crashes |
| 23:14:07 | almogaver | it happens when you're lagging |
| 23:14:27 | almogaver | and you try to take the flag that another tank closed to you has taked one moment ago |
| 23:14:33 | almogaver | but you don't know it due to lag |
| 23:14:42 | Chestal | that shouldn't happen |
| 23:14:54 | Chestal | the serevr tells the client if it grabs the flag |
| 23:15:23 | almogaver | i agree... no bugs should happen ;) |
| 23:15:53 | almogaver | if i try to play i'll be very lagged |
| 23:15:59 | almogaver | we can try it if you want |
| 23:19:44 | Chestal | it's late, I want to go to bed |
| 23:20:01 | almogaver | ok, next day |