| 00:30:16 | captain_proton | can't make up your mind if you actually want to be here? |
| 00:30:59 | hehehaha | me? |
| 00:31:05 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 00:31:19 | hehehaha | my computer keeps freezing up on me!! |
| 00:31:21 | hehehaha | grrrrrrrrrr |
| 00:31:33 | hehehaha | its REALLY annoying me |
| 00:32:24 | hehehaha | there are so many people here but no one talks ;/ |
| 00:33:03 | hehehaha | so how has your day been proton? |
| 00:33:18 | captain_proton | ok i guess |
| 00:33:26 | captain_proton | haven't been awake too long |
| 00:34:03 | hehehaha | ahh, saturday is the best for sleeping late |
| 00:34:30 | nuum | enjoy 4_20 proton? |
| 00:34:46 | captain_proton | nuum: as much as the next non-smoking nerd |
| 00:34:57 | nuum | well then you must have enjoyed it! |
| 00:35:03 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:35:06 | nuum | did you get the mingus? |
| 00:35:10 | hehehaha | 4_20? |
| 00:35:11 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 00:35:26 | nuum | i send you some charles mingus |
| 00:35:30 | nuum | now you can listen to jazz |
| 00:35:56 | captain_proton | oh yeah, i got it |
| 00:36:03 | captain_proton | haven't listened yet |
| 00:36:16 | nuum | so i'm working on the menu system |
| 00:36:35 | nuum | and i don't think animation will work for anything but the menuptr "cursor" |
| 00:36:36 | captain_proton | shouldn't we finish writing a widget set before we work on the menus? ;) |
| 00:36:46 | nuum | yes. not enough structure! |
| 00:37:04 | captain_proton | hey - i don't suppose you know anything about function point analysis? |
| 00:37:16 | nuum | in fact, i can do with this now, as long as there are buttons (click, radio, checkbox) and possibly a slider |
| 00:37:44 | nuum | function point analysis? behavior of functions at a point? i dunno? |
| 00:37:48 | nuum | i'm slightly stoned |
| 00:37:51 | captain_proton | hah |
| 00:37:53 | nuum | and drunk |
| 00:37:55 | captain_proton | its a software engineering thing |
| 00:38:06 | nuum | and considering doing a two course ecstacy meal tonight |
| 00:38:17 | nuum | three course if you include katerina |
| 00:38:18 | nuum | ;) |
| 00:38:27 | captain_proton | =/ |
| 00:38:36 | hehehaha | wow |
| 00:38:43 | nuum | software engineering thing? |
| 00:38:50 | nuum | i don't know what it could be? |
| 00:38:57 | captain_proton | nuum: yeah - estimation procedure |
| 00:38:58 | nuum | a 4 world recipe? |
| 00:39:15 | nuum | estimation |
| 00:39:24 | nuum | are we talking numerical analysis type stuff? |
| 00:39:40 | captain_proton | software estimation - budget, schedule, etc |
| 00:39:44 | nuum | like evolving ode's? |
| 00:40:14 | nuum | budget, schedule, must not be too mathematical then, more to do with administration/management? |
| 00:40:22 | captain_proton | well |
| 00:40:35 | captain_proton | its a method for making accurate guesses based on the system design |
| 00:40:39 | captain_proton | but its fucking complicated as all hell |
| 00:41:02 | nuum | accurate guesses of cost/time? |
| 00:41:06 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 00:41:14 | nuum | must now open some beer from mexico |
| 00:41:38 | hehehaha | lol, do you guys talk more on here or actually play bz? |
| 00:41:47 | nuum | you wish to apply this to open source? we don't work for money, at least i don't work on flag for money... |
| 00:41:58 | captain_proton | nuum: no |
| 00:42:04 | captain_proton | nuum: i wish to do my homework |
| 00:42:09 | nuum | oh |
| 00:42:31 | nuum | hmmm, are you in some kind of business school? |
| 00:42:34 | nuum | management? |
| 00:42:53 | captain_proton | no, i'm in CS |
| 00:43:15 | nuum | this is what i know and would profess: any expenditure of time and effort needed to complete the next stage of a project is valid |
| 00:43:18 | captain_proton | but there's a class on software engineering methods (architecture, desgin, estimation, test planning, etc) that i have to take |
| 00:43:37 | nuum | note that there is no final stage of a project implied |
| 00:43:55 | captain_proton | heh |
| 00:43:56 | nuum | step+ = step U {step} |
| 00:44:06 | nuum | (axiom of infinity) |
| 00:44:11 | captain_proton | hah |
| 00:44:34 | nuum | 3 a set containing 0 (\emptyset)... |
| 00:44:41 | nuum | but seriously |
| 00:45:29 | nuum | no, i've never taken such a course. i can't believe figuring out how much to spend on a project should be studied by a compsci major |
| 00:45:37 | nuum | unless he were involved up high |
| 00:45:47 | nuum | but thats too high level for a computer scientist |
| 00:46:08 | nuum | goddamnit thats why we hire managers and they stick money up their butts and we can curse at them all we need |
| 00:46:33 | captain_proton | nuum: i'm not really arguing with their decision - so far i've spent about 5 hours over the entire semester working on the class |
| 00:46:46 | nuum | i would instruct your professor to go make the university less of a performative institution and shove some money up his bum |
| 00:47:06 | nuum | what an invalid class then. |
| 00:47:59 | captain_proton | nuum: however, the professor plays go, which makes it ok |
| 00:48:30 | captain_proton | the problem with managers is if they're given the job to estimate, they'll maybe allocate 5% of the necessary budget/time |
| 00:49:24 | nuum | wtf is go? is it like tank? |
| 00:49:31 | captain_proton | nuum: its a board game |
| 00:49:38 | nuum | so its like tank then |
| 00:49:44 | captain_proton | uh, no |
| 00:49:48 | nuum | except about 1000 years out of date |
| 00:49:52 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 00:49:57 | nuum | ;) |
| 00:50:00 | captain_proton | strategy game |
| 00:50:49 | nuum | hmmm, wanna play some flag? |
| 00:51:10 | nuum | why don't you drop s.e. and get on to stuff like language, complexity, etc |
| 00:51:23 | nuum | dont tell me a class like that is required |
| 00:51:40 | captain_proton | yeah it is =| |
| 00:52:00 | captain_proton | its 3 credits and i attend class -maybe- once a week |
| 00:52:31 | scanline | is back (gone 20:42:06) |
| 00:52:33 | hehehaha | what is it required for? |
| 00:52:41 | captain_proton | for me to graduate |
| 00:52:41 | nuum | hmmm. apparently in our s.e. course (300, 301) the students use rose rational rt to build all kinds of new gimmics |
| 00:52:49 | nuum | heh, proton, you're too goal oriented |
| 00:52:56 | captain_proton | nuum: not at all |
| 00:53:04 | captain_proton | nuum: i just want to make sure i hit everything i need |
| 00:53:16 | hehehaha | are you in graduate school? |
| 00:53:22 | captain_proton | no |
| 00:53:45 | nuum | 2nd year ugrad? |
| 00:54:07 | captain_proton | 1st year, sophomore (2nd) by credits |
| 00:54:53 | hehehaha | did you go back to school? |
| 00:55:11 | captain_proton | never left |
| 00:55:12 | hehehaha | or just young? |
| 00:55:16 | hehehaha | ahh, cool |
| 00:55:36 | nuum | i couldn't imagine going and working and then returning to school |
| 00:55:40 | nuum | now let us play some flag |
| 00:55:46 | nuum | what do you say, decks back up to 5 shot? |
| 00:55:50 | nuum | or >5 shot? |
| 00:56:12 | captain_proton | nuum: i've gotta get working on this |
| 00:56:16 | captain_proton | rather than just bitching about it |
| 00:56:28 | nuum | aw poo |
| 00:56:32 | nuum | well i'll go beat some ass then |
| 00:56:41 | captain_proton | tell ya what |
| 00:56:42 | captain_proton | in an hour |
| 00:56:48 | captain_proton | you can watch us eat the loops |
| 00:56:54 | nuum | wicked, ducati back? |
| 00:56:55 | hehehaha | who are the loops? |
| 00:57:07 | nuum | they the f00inist team out there |
| 00:57:09 | captain_proton | nuum: no, it'll be played on a private bhaskara |
| 00:57:17 | nuum | f00loops |
| 00:57:20 | captain_proton | hehehaha: there's a league team called the 'froot loops' |
| 00:57:20 | nuum | bwahahahaha |
| 00:57:35 | hehehaha | yes, do you know the members? |
| 00:57:41 | captain_proton | hehehaha: nope |
| 00:57:47 | nuum | they f001, f002, f003, and f012 |
| 00:57:57 | nuum | they work in base 4 |
| 00:58:05 | hehehaha | i bet they are good |
| 00:58:06 | nuum | don't ask why they don't start from 0 |
| 00:58:15 | captain_proton | wouldn't that be f001, f002, f003, and f010? |
| 00:58:20 | nuum | or carry over |
| 00:58:29 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 00:58:35 | nuum | no, f010, f011 died in the last z00 meeting |
| 00:59:32 | hehehaha | i'm a little slow but are the numbers when they registered?? |
| 00:59:47 | captain_proton | which numbers ? |
| 01:00:01 | hehehaha | ah, never mind |
| 01:01:30 | hehehaha | a question proton: is highschool or college harder? |
| 01:01:42 | captain_proton | hehehaha: college |
| 01:01:45 | captain_proton | high school sucks |
| 01:01:48 | hehehaha | yikes! |
| 01:02:01 | captain_proton | nuum: gonna hit you with a song |
| 01:02:28 | hehehaha | how much homework do you get in an average night? |
| 01:02:42 | captain_proton | its not really by night because you don't have each class every day |
| 01:02:53 | captain_proton | i'd say on average i did about 4 hours a day |
| 01:03:12 | captain_proton | nuum: accept that DCC! |
| 01:03:51 | hehehaha | i'm in highschool and i usually get that or more |
| 01:04:10 | captain_proton | but in high school its just busywork |
| 01:04:15 | hehehaha | yes |
| 01:04:17 | captain_proton | nothing challenging |
| 01:04:30 | hehehaha | depends |
| 01:04:45 | captain_proton | well |
| 01:04:48 | captain_proton | in my experience |
| 01:04:55 | captain_proton | even in the advanced classes |
| 01:04:58 | captain_proton | nothing challenging |
| 01:05:42 | captain_proton | damn you nuum! |
| 01:05:50 | hehehaha | hmm |
| 01:06:30 | hehehaha | i don't know if i really understand the meaning of a "challenging class" |
| 01:06:46 | captain_proton | exactly |
| 01:06:51 | captain_proton | now, even though i've got easy classes |
| 01:06:55 | hehehaha | i get so much work that the real challenge is how to finish it all |
| 01:07:15 | captain_proton | there are a few where if you miss a class or don't figure out the material you'll fail |
| 01:07:30 | hehehaha | i've only had one course like that |
| 01:07:33 | captain_proton | pokes nuum |
| 01:07:38 | hehehaha | chemistry |
| 01:07:49 | hehehaha | taking the SATS in that in June |
| 01:08:22 | hehehaha | are you more in the math/sciences or the humanities? |
| 01:08:30 | captain_proton | double major CS/music |
| 01:09:00 | vogon_jeltz | that's a first. ;) |
| 01:09:14 | captain_proton | haha no it isn't |
| 01:09:21 | captain_proton | its the most popular double major in the university |
| 01:09:27 | hehehaha | wow |
| 01:09:57 | vogon_jeltz | with one? ;) |
| 01:10:00 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: if the watch thing comes through i'll try to get you one for free ;) |
| 01:10:09 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: sa-weet! |
| 01:10:22 | captain_proton | thats the main goal of it |
| 01:10:27 | captain_proton | i could care less about making money |
| 01:10:31 | captain_proton | i just want a time cube watch |
| 01:10:49 | vogon_jeltz | does CafePress do watches? |
| 01:11:06 | captain_proton | i'm not sure |
| 01:11:16 | captain_proton | thinkgeek were the ones who got the binary watch made |
| 01:11:19 | captain_proton | so i know they can do it |
| 01:12:38 | hehehaha | hmmmmm |
| 01:13:04 | hehehaha | my school vacation is ending tomorrow |
| 01:13:23 | hehehaha | they always seem so short |
| 01:14:29 | vogon_jeltz | http://superdeluxe.com/elemental/ <-- Oh. My. God. |
| 01:15:18 | captain_proton | chokes on the crackers he's eating |
| 01:15:33 | vogon_jeltz | I don't know whether to be impressed or scared. |
| 01:15:40 | captain_proton | is frightened |
| 01:16:14 | hehehaha | wow |
| 01:17:31 | captain_proton | thats a great logo |
| 01:17:37 | captain_proton | The Periodic Table [of poetry] |
| 01:19:43 | hehehaha | lol, maybe that will help me on the SATS |
| 01:24:18 | nuum | say proton, any way i can get an out-of-tank view for the loops? |
| 01:26:06 | captain_proton | nuum: if you build with -DROAMING |
| 01:26:13 | captain_proton | then connect as an observer and use the roaming keys |
| 01:26:15 | nuum | wtf i have to rebuild? |
| 01:26:23 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 01:26:31 | nuum | you mean make clean! |
| 01:26:47 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 01:26:54 | nuum | and then how to build with -DROAMING |
| 01:27:26 | captain_proton | edit config-sys |
| 01:27:37 | nuum | um, this isn't a dos6.2 box proton |
| 01:27:44 | captain_proton | fine |
| 01:27:46 | captain_proton | vim config-sys |
| 01:28:06 | nuum | i'll use emacs, thank you very much |
| 01:28:24 | nuum | maybe to CXXOPT? |
| 01:28:49 | nuum | ok well here we go |
| 01:28:57 | nuum | now how to roam? |
| 01:29:46 | captain_proton | the 6 keys around pgup/etc |
| 01:30:45 | nuum | um it doesn't do it |
| 01:30:53 | nuum | do i have to be a non-tank |
| 01:31:14 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 01:31:25 | nuum | those pgup keys, it don't let me roam |
| 01:31:39 | captain_proton | hmm lemme check something |
| 01:32:26 | nuum | well i'm out |
| 01:34:03 | hehehaha | there has been alot of new players these last few months |
| 01:34:15 | hehehaha | don't recognize anybody anymore :/ |
| 01:37:17 | hehehaha | you guys are way too quiet- ba bye |
| 01:45:16 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:45:21 | captain_proton | it IS 10 minutes to our match |
| 01:45:24 | captain_proton | and nobody is here |
| 01:49:13 | DemonMoose | gotcha |
| 01:50:20 | DemonMoose | where? |
| 01:50:25 | DemonMoose | and how is your roomies 'puter? |
| 01:50:32 | captain_proton | locked |
| 01:54:31 | [meq]freelancer | hi all |
| 01:54:43 | captain_proton | heya |
| 01:54:48 | captain_proton | we still have no loops here |
| 01:54:57 | [meq]freelancer | oh oh |
| 01:55:03 | DemonMoose | what time was the match for? |
| 01:55:20 | captain_proton | 10 PM eastern |
| 01:55:36 | DemonMoose | IE now |
| 01:55:44 | captain_proton | lemme check in game |
| 01:56:34 | FrootLoopLeader | hey captain |
| 01:56:43 | captain_proton | hey |
| 01:56:51 | captain_proton | any others coming? |
| 01:56:53 | captain_proton | we're all here |
| 01:56:58 | captain_proton | except for you guys |
| 01:57:04 | FrootLoopLeader | well....maybe |
| 01:57:25 | FrootLoopLeader | i have 1 other, not sure on rest, they might not come here but |
| 01:57:35 | FrootLoopLeader | i can relay the info to them, how will this work? |
| 01:57:46 | captain_proton | well, i've got a private server up on my box |
| 01:58:01 | captain_proton | we all connect, then someone resets the game |
| 01:58:06 | captain_proton | we -are- in need of a ref |
| 01:58:27 | FrootLoopLeader | how do we connect to the private server |
| 01:58:35 | captain_proton | i'll give you the port number its on |
| 01:58:40 | captain_proton | once we're all ready to go |
| 01:59:15 | [meq]freelancer | who's the want's to ref |
| 01:59:16 | captain_proton | pokes vogon_jeltz - care to ref |
| 01:59:26 | vogon_jeltz | I don't have a 1.7 tree on me. |
| 01:59:58 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: don't even have a 1.7 client? |
| 02:00:04 | vogon_jeltz | nope. |
| 02:00:18 | captain_proton | how long will it take for you to get one? |
| 02:00:24 | vogon_jeltz | 10, maybe 15 minutes. |
| 02:00:30 | vogon_jeltz | at most. |
| 02:00:33 | captain_proton | we'll wait ;) |
| 02:00:42 | [meq]freelancer | ok by me |
| 02:00:42 | captain_proton | in the meantime, i'll tell you all the admin stuff you need to know |
| 02:01:35 | FrootLoopLeader | captain, can i relay the server infor. to my other teammate that i know of, he wont be joining here |
| 02:01:56 | captain_proton | FrootLoopLeader: bhaskara.bzflag.org, port 5999 |
| 02:01:58 | captain_proton | DO NOT join yet |
| 02:02:22 | FrootLoopLeader | ok |
| 02:02:37 | FrootLoopLeader | brb |
| 02:03:04 | [meq]freelancer | captain how did the frog s do in their match |
| 02:03:08 | captain_proton | FrootLoopLeader: do you want this game to count for the ratings? |
| 02:03:17 | captain_proton | [meq]freelancer: didn't even know the frogs had a match |
| 02:03:45 | [meq]freelancer | frogs and moles last sunday nite |
| 02:03:57 | captain_proton | i thought it was zees |
| 02:04:28 | [meq]freelancer | perhaps i am mistaken |
| 02:05:02 | captain_proton | moles beat the zees 4:1 according to chestal |
| 02:05:23 | vogon_jeltz | OK, I'm about halfway through getting bzflag/data. |
| 02:05:25 | [meq]freelancer | thanks for the info |
| 02:05:28 | captain_proton | so |
| 02:05:31 | vogon_jeltz | the whole mess takes about 5 minutes to compile. |
| 02:05:33 | Chestal | yep, we did :-) |
| 02:05:33 | captain_proton | who is red and who is green? |
| 02:05:39 | captain_proton | welcome Chestal! |
| 02:05:46 | captain_proton | good, um, morning |
| 02:05:50 | vogon_jeltz | hey, Chestal. |
| 02:05:57 | Chestal | vogon_jeltz: heh, it's still dark her |
| 02:06:02 | [meq]freelancer | hi chestal |
| 02:06:14 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: I believe you meant to address cappy. ;) |
| 02:06:14 | captain_proton | Chestal: you are a true bz addict |
| 02:06:32 | captain_proton | Chestal: vogon_jeltz is gonna ref/admin but feel free to observe ;) |
| 02:06:35 | vogon_jeltz | dear god, this is going slower than I remember. |
| 02:06:49 | captain_proton | observer + roaming is particularly nice |
| 02:07:11 | captain_proton | so |
| 02:07:14 | captain_proton | who is which color ? |
| 02:07:26 | Chestal | vogon: yes, it's this silly automatism |
| 02:07:41 | vogon_jeltz | heh. |
| 02:07:47 | vogon_jeltz | kicks his modem |
| 02:07:54 | DemonMoose | we take red? |
| 02:08:02 | vogon_jeltz | has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 02:08:08 | captain_proton | haha vogon_jeltz |
| 02:08:42 | vogon_jeltz | damn, you saw through my ruse. ;) |
| 02:08:50 | vogon_jeltz | OK, I'm zipping through bzflag/include. |
| 02:08:57 | captain_proton | so |
| 02:09:01 | captain_proton | meq on red, loops on green |
| 02:09:14 | DemonMoose | :) |
| 02:09:30 | captain_proton | FrootLoopLeader: you never answered - is this friendly or official? |
| 02:09:52 | FrootLoopLeader | well captain i think we only have 2 |
| 02:09:59 | captain_proton | eww |
| 02:10:04 | FrootLoopLeader | so friendly :) |
| 02:10:56 | captain_proton | well |
| 02:11:02 | vogon_jeltz | bzflag/src/platform. |
| 02:11:03 | captain_proton | keep trying...we've got a little time till vogon_jeltz is ready |
| 02:11:12 | FrootLoopLeader | alright |
| 02:12:41 | vogon_jeltz | compiling. |
| 02:15:43 | vogon_jeltz | OK, I'm going to be joining in a second. |
| 02:16:16 | vogon_jeltz | wait about 15 seconds, then head in. |
| 02:16:21 | blaboo | whoze playin? |
| 02:16:36 | captain_proton | blaboo: you could stand in for a loop ;) |
| 02:16:41 | blaboo | heh |
| 02:16:45 | blaboo | meq pays me too much |
| 02:16:53 | blaboo | ducati style? |
| 02:16:55 | FrootLoopLeader | buzzy, you there? |
| 02:17:11 | FrootLoopLeader | grrrrrrrr, this is frustrating |
| 02:17:32 | captain_proton | FrootLoopLeader: since its friendly, nuum here could stand in for 1 person... |
| 02:17:40 | blaboo | i'm there |
| 02:17:55 | blaboo | how long a game? |
| 02:18:02 | captain_proton | 30 mins |
| 02:18:27 | blaboo | alright lets go quick |
| 02:18:33 | blaboo | but with my help you go down meq |
| 02:18:36 | FrootLoopLeader | cool, i've got 2, sounds good, blaboo is the other |
| 02:18:37 | blaboo | who is playing? |
| 02:18:47 | blaboo | the moose? |
| 02:18:57 | captain_proton | blaboo: yeah - he just crashed - hang a min |
| 02:19:03 | blaboo | so 4-4? |
| 02:19:05 | captain_proton | so - loops on green, meq on red |
| 02:19:06 | captain_proton | blaboo: 3-3 |
| 02:19:20 | FrootLoopLeader | server details again for blaboo |
| 02:19:24 | FrootLoopLeader | please |
| 02:19:32 | captain_proton | bhaskara.bzflag.org:5999 |
| 02:20:19 | captain_proton | we all ready? |
| 02:20:26 | FrootLoopLeader | i am |
| 02:20:27 | [meq]freelancer | yes |
| 02:20:53 | blaboo | still on observer |
| 02:20:59 | captain_proton | lets go! |
| 02:26:46 | fontenot | god damn POS sourceforge |
| 02:27:00 | fontenot | Hostname %Loss Rcv Snt Last Best Avg Worst |
| 02:27:08 | fontenot | 11. usw-pr-cvs.sourceforge.net 86% 4 29 81 42 73 86 |
| 02:28:00 | Chestal | loopster! |
| 02:28:08 | Chestal | go to bhaskara.bzflag.org 5999 |
| 02:28:11 | fontenot | god dammit |
| 02:28:20 | fontenot | since source shit is down serverlist is too |
| 02:28:30 | fontenot | what a crock |
| 02:29:23 | loopster | trying... technical difficulties... |
| 02:29:50 | captain_proton | what sort of difficulties? |
| 02:30:05 | fontenot | serverlist down? like me? |
| 02:30:12 | loopster | yeah, the list server |
| 02:30:18 | captain_proton | loopster: its not in the list server |
| 02:30:26 | Chestal | loopster: enter it manually |
| 02:30:38 | captain_proton | we still need 1 more player |
| 02:30:41 | loopster | ok |
| 02:30:46 | captain_proton | since nuum decided drugs would be more fun |
| 02:30:52 | Chestal | heh :-) |
| 02:30:53 | fontenot | all bzflag sourceforge stuff is down |
| 02:31:01 | fontenot | main site, serverlist, cvs |
| 02:31:07 | FrootLoopLeader | hey loopster? |
| 02:31:25 | loopster | yeah |
| 02:31:47 | FrootLoopLeader | how do you send private messages here? |
| 02:31:56 | captain_proton | /msg user message |
| 02:33:09 | Chestal | sf seems to be down |
| 02:33:20 | captain_proton | FrootLoopLeader: looks like loopster is on |
| 02:33:47 | FrootLoopLeader | ok, going there, did we get a third volunteer to help teach you guys a thing or two |
| 02:33:48 | loopster | are we ready? anybody else coming? |
| 02:34:07 | FrootLoopLeader | yeah be right there |
| 02:37:52 | loopster | where is the leader?! |
| 02:44:27 | vogon_jeltz | dude, sorry about that. |
| 02:45:28 | vogon_jeltz | OK, can I reconnect now? |
| 02:57:22 | jpablo_ | what's the option to play ctf, 2 vs 2 ? |
| 02:57:32 | jpablo_ | 2 teams i mean |
| 02:57:39 | jpablo_ | ramdon maps for two teams. |
| 03:04:26 | jpablo_ | damn |
| 03:04:34 | jpablo_ | that options is not available anymore. |
| 03:06:40 | jpablo_ | damn. |
| 03:08:44 | | there is probably not here |
| 03:08:44 | jpablo_ | Chestal: there ? |
| 03:09:38 | jpablo_ | humm. |
| 03:18:30 | vogon_jeltz | 5-0, loops win. |
| 03:18:31 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 03:18:37 | captain_proton | that lag was AWFUL |
| 03:18:48 | vogon_jeltz | suuuure it was. ;) |
| 03:18:57 | captain_proton | chestal was 350, both loops were 200 |
| 03:19:37 | vogon_jeltz | each clan should have a server, and each match should be composed of one game on each. |
| 03:19:56 | vogon_jeltz | plus one on a mutually-agreeable server. |
| 03:20:04 | captain_proton | then you get teams who lag everywhere |
| 03:20:29 | Chestal | sorry for my lag. I usually have about 150-200ms on bhaskara |
| 03:20:43 | Chestal | but obviously it's worse from my DSL at home |
| 03:21:32 | captain_proton | i'm just irked that even with that much lag we couldn't even get a single point |
| 03:22:02 | Chestal | proton: you were close to capturing our flag at least two times |
| 03:22:20 | captain_proton | yet somehow we all died and you take it back to the corner |
| 03:22:22 | vogon_jeltz | you guys kept getting it within, like, 3 grid squares. |
| 03:22:38 | FrootLoopLeader | thx for the game proton, sorry for the confusion, we are still |
| 03:22:43 | vogon_jeltz | if jumping had been on, you could've pwned them. |
| 03:22:45 | FrootLoopLeader | working on our communication. |
| 03:22:50 | loopster | i got incredibly lucky on the first red run. shot somebody right on the edge of the red home zone. |
| 03:23:15 | Chestal | I actually didn't knew what was gogn on most of the time |
| 03:23:18 | captain_proton | what kinds of connections are you two (FrootLoopLeader & loopster) on? |
| 03:23:28 | Chestal | just liek the match agaisnt the Zees, I'm mainly helping by catching bullets :-) |
| 03:23:44 | captain_proton | Chestal: you weren't catching many of the bullets you should have been ;) |
| 03:23:45 | FrootLoopLeader | you were just being modest out there chestal, i know |
| 03:23:49 | Chestal | and the game sure feels different here at home |
| 03:23:53 | loopster | yeah, don't believe that! you were the super-sub! |
| 03:25:01 | Chestal | well, 5:28 here, off to bed. Cu |
| 03:25:10 | FrootLoopLeader | goodnight chestal |
| 03:25:12 | loopster | i had few team kills. the other greens must have been good at dodging my shots. |
| 03:25:40 | FrootLoopLeader | :), i know I had a couple |
| 03:26:04 | captain_proton | what kinds of connections are you guys on? |
| 03:26:06 | FrootLoopLeader | captain, we werent too laggy were we? |
| 03:26:12 | loopster | cable |
| 03:26:13 | captain_proton | FrootLoopLeader: it felt pretty bad out there |
| 03:26:28 | captain_proton | trying to figure out if maybe it might be this end |
| 03:26:31 | loopster | it was no where near as nice as ducati. |
| 03:26:36 | FrootLoopLeader | it seemed normal to me |
| 03:26:49 | captain_proton | thats because DemonMoose & I both had 3ms lag |
| 03:26:51 | FrootLoopLeader | but not as smooth as ducati |
| 03:26:53 | captain_proton | =) |
| 03:28:32 | loopster | i'd like to play a 2-shot jump/ric tourney someday. |
| 03:29:16 | FrootLoopLeader | captain: do you know how the challenges will work on Valoches site. |
| 03:29:25 | captain_proton | FrootLoopLeader: we haven't quite figured all that out yet |
| 03:29:26 | vogon_jeltz | I should hack something up so that observers have unconditional jumping. |
| 03:29:45 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: the observer patch on sf has some client-side changes... |
| 03:30:11 | vogon_jeltz | but I should probably finish the architectural work in 1.8 first. |
| 03:31:16 | vogon_jeltz | namely, SDL, OpenAL, Ogg, and Tcl. |
| 03:31:17 | loopster | it'd be nice to allow the server admin to force observers in to certain colors. |
| 03:35:23 | FrootLoopLeader | well, think i'm off to bed, good night. |
| 03:35:35 | loopster | see ya out there, FLL |
| 03:35:36 | vogon_jeltz | nn. |
| 03:37:06 | loopster | is the list server working again? |
| 03:42:08 | vogon_jeltz | is away: gleh. |
| 04:22:06 | captain_proton | blahblah |
| 05:46:40 | captain_proton | everybody have their drool buckets close at hand? |
| 05:46:49 | captain_proton | http://www.naturetech.com.tw/777spec.htm |
| 05:53:57 | MrApathyCream | can you get one with WinXP, if so, I'm in !!!! |
| 05:54:00 | MrApathyCream | :) |
| 05:54:05 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 05:54:13 | captain_proton | its $8000 |
| 05:54:22 | captain_proton | i SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO want one |
| 05:54:31 | MrApathyCream | maybe rcam will splurge for you |
| 05:54:41 | captain_proton | maybe :) |
| 05:54:42 | captain_proton | hell |
| 05:54:45 | captain_proton | bzflag runs on solaris |
| 05:54:49 | captain_proton | and that lappie does opengl well |
| 05:55:11 | captain_proton | actually |
| 05:55:17 | captain_proton | i'm pretty sure it does -everything- well |
| 05:55:53 | MrApathyCream | you would think! |
| 05:56:45 | captain_proton | and |
| 05:56:47 | captain_proton | ITS PURPLE! |
| 06:16:47 | MrApathyCream | how'd the tournee go anyway? |
| 06:17:01 | captain_proton | it was a friendly game |
| 06:17:04 | captain_proton | but lag killed us |
| 06:17:09 | captain_proton | Chestal stood in for a no-show |
| 06:17:15 | captain_proton | and they were all lagged 200+ |
| 06:17:16 | captain_proton | =| |
| 06:17:30 | MrApathyCream | dsl snob! |
| 06:17:51 | captain_proton | they were all on dsl or cable |
| 06:32:10 | vogon_jeltz | is away: SNL |
| 06:59:19 | MrApathyCream | Hmmmm, Riker's date must be going well! |
| 06:59:46 | captain_proton | must be |
| 07:03:47 | MrApathyCream | ooo just found xchat's transparent background, nifty |
| 07:09:17 | | DemonMoose was last seen on #bzflag 5 hours, 3 seconds ago, saying: :) [Sun Apr 21 03:09:14 2002] |
| 07:09:17 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen DemonMoose? |
| 07:09:26 | | EddieNull was last seen on #bzflag 1 days, 11 hours, 23 minutes and 45 seconds ago, saying: tim, did you diff the os x source with bzflag.cxx? I don't have the code handy but in the build I made last night from cvs I notice some things a screwy [Fri Apr 19 20:45:41 2002] |
| 07:09:26 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen EddieNull? |
| 07:09:36 | | fontenot was last seen on #bzflag 4 hours, 38 minutes and 35 seconds ago, saying: main site, serverlist, cvs [Sun Apr 21 03:31:01 2002] |
| 07:09:36 | MrApathyCream | ibot seen fontenot? |
| 07:09:42 | | hemi was last seen on #bzflag 130 days, 1 hours, 18 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: just ordered his folks' Christmas present. Damn. [Wed Dec 12 05:51:42 2001] |
| 07:09:42 | MrApathyCream | ibot seen hemi? |
| 07:09:53 | MrApathyCream | 130 days!!!! now that's a good connection |
| 07:10:22 | | scanline was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 hours, 50 minutes and 43 seconds ago, saying: thanks [Sun Apr 21 06:19:39 2002] |
| 07:10:22 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen scanline? |
| 07:10:36 | | jacques_gone was last seen on #tuxscreen 5 days, 4 hours, 52 minutes and 35 seconds ago, saying: i forgot to change my nick at home [Tue Apr 16 03:18:01 2002] |
| 07:10:36 | MrApathyCream | ibot, seen jacques_gone? |
| 07:10:36 | | rcam was last seen on #bzflag 3 days, 9 hours, 11 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying: is away: I'm busy [Wed Apr 17 22:59:21 2002] |
| 07:10:36 | captain_proton | ibot, seen rcam? |
| 07:10:48 | MrApathyCream | sniff |
| 07:12:59 | captain_proton | heh |
| 07:17:12 | vogon_jeltz | is away: SQL |
| 07:18:35 | vogon_jeltz | is away: Lysol |
| 07:18:38 | captain_proton | haha |
| 07:18:53 | vogon_jeltz | * vogon_jeltz is away: SNL |
| 07:18:53 | vogon_jeltz | * sibn is away: SDL |
| 07:18:58 | vogon_jeltz | * vogon_jeltz is away: SQL |
| 07:18:58 | vogon_jeltz | * sibn is away: PySol |
| 07:18:58 | vogon_jeltz | * vogon_jeltz is away: Lysol |
| 07:19:53 | MrApathyCream | ? |
| 07:20:13 | vogon_jeltz | we're away-message one-upping each other. |
| 07:20:16 | MrApathyCream | is away: Calling psychiatric personel |
| 07:20:56 | MrApathyCream | sibn being personality #2? |
| 07:21:29 | vogon_jeltz | no. |
| 07:21:33 | vogon_jeltz | sibn being one of my friends. |
| 07:22:46 | captain_proton | is excited |
| 07:23:20 | captain_proton | i got audiogalaxy working |
| 07:25:36 | MrApathyCream | avoids obvious ridiculing response |
| 07:25:52 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: dude, I got audiogalaxy working in 5 minutes. |
| 07:26:17 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: not with a university firewall in front of you |
| 07:26:19 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: and that includes the time it took to navigate through registration and wait for my confirmation e-mail. |
| 07:26:45 | captain_proton | did some tricky tcp tunneling stuff |
| 07:26:59 | vogon_jeltz | so what, you forward it to babylonia with ssh? |
| 07:27:09 | vogon_jeltz | big freaking whoop. ;) |
| 07:27:13 | captain_proton | haha |
| 07:29:20 | MrApathyCream | wonders what it feels like to 'receive wallops' |
| 07:29:49 | captain_proton | its fun |
| 07:30:44 | MrApathyCream | be back soon |
| 08:58:18 | onthemark | heya kiddies |
| 12:48:50 | Chestal | good day |
| 13:32:33 | scanline | is away: a quick bite of pseudofood for something breakfast-like |
| 13:40:47 | scanline | is back (gone 00:08:14) |
| 16:06:33 | scanline | is away: ZzZzz |
| 18:45:20 | akira_ | abend |
| 18:45:46 | akira_ | Chestal: bist du wach ? |
| 18:54:22 | akira_ | chetsal ?? |
| 18:58:55 | Chestal | ja |
| 19:06:43 | T-34 | Hi tankers! |
| 19:07:34 | akira_ | hi |
| 19:07:41 | T-34 | Please, anyone can tell me if Ducati is on? |
| 19:08:17 | akira_ | ask chestal |
| 19:08:23 | akira_ | and me is off |
| 19:08:23 | akira_ | :) |
| 19:08:25 | akira_ | cu all |
| 19:08:29 | T-34 | I haven't bzflag installed here |
| 19:08:38 | T-34 | bye akira |
| 19:09:50 | T-34 | I'm on a net cofee and I don't know if the match between 'The legendary zee brothers' and 'Equipo Hispano' will be today |
| 19:10:06 | | a german gent that enjoys croissant with his pet duck, Tag |
| 19:10:06 | T-34 | Chestal? |
| 19:10:25 | vogon_jeltz | I should make a BZFlag IRC stat-relay bot. |
| 19:11:27 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: can there be more than one observer in a game? |
| 19:14:07 | Chestal | vogon: yes, as many as the server allows |
| 19:14:15 | vogon_jeltz | OK. |
| 19:15:32 | vogon_jeltz | hmm. |
| 19:16:09 | vogon_jeltz | it should just be a matter of hooking a very limited BZFlag client engine up to an infobot. |
| 19:16:43 | vogon_jeltz | on join, it'd set itself, say, 10,000 meters above ground. |
| 19:16:58 | vogon_jeltz | then look for MsgFlagCapture messages. |
| 19:18:09 | vogon_jeltz | or, in a deathmatch, look for MsgKill messages. |
| 19:18:20 | vogon_jeltz | or MsgKilled, whatever. :P |
| 19:27:25 | vogon_jeltz | pulls up the ol' IRC RFC. |
| 19:44:36 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: just have it never start playing - it joins, then listens |
| 19:45:25 | captain_proton | sniffs |
| 19:45:31 | captain_proton | no reply from gene ray yet |
| 19:58:17 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2002/02/stoned.html |
| 19:59:00 | vogon_jeltz | http://icculus.org/404 |
| 19:59:53 | captain_proton | questioning the GPL... =) |
| 20:00:35 | captain_proton | nice |
| 20:00:37 | captain_proton | what game is that? |
| 20:01:03 | vogon_jeltz | it seems to be a mix of Zork and Nethack. :P |
| 20:01:13 | captain_proton | heh |
| 20:01:35 | vogon_jeltz | what. the. fuck. |
| 20:01:47 | vogon_jeltz | Fluxbox seems to have gone through utter focus model failute. |
| 20:01:49 | vogon_jeltz | failure, even. |
| 20:01:56 | vogon_jeltz | gotta restart it. |
| 20:04:03 | captain_proton | went on a music binge last night |
| 20:06:41 | vogon_jeltz | uber-sweet. fluxbox 0.1.8 is out. |
| 20:11:27 | captain_proton | is out |
| 20:11:41 | captain_proton | email me if rcam swings by |
| 20:26:09 | almogaver | hi |
| 21:03:09 | blaboo | yo |
| 21:04:04 | scanline | is back (gone 04:57:31) |
| 21:09:56 | blaboo | sup |
| 21:13:18 | blaboo | crs ever here? |
| 21:14:52 | nuum | anyone ever here? |
| 21:14:59 | almogaver | hola nuum |
| 21:16:56 | nuum | hola amigo |
| 21:18:47 | almogaver | que tal te va? |
| 21:19:21 | nuum | mi cabeza dorme |
| 21:19:49 | nuum | bailo todos la noche |
| 21:20:02 | nuum | !??! |
| 21:20:05 | nuum | making sense? |
| 21:22:07 | nuum | donde tu? |
| 21:22:21 | nuum | dondes tu? |
| 21:22:22 | almogaver | :?? |
| 21:22:29 | almogaver | where you? |
| 21:22:37 | nuum | there you are! |
| 21:22:50 | nuum | danced all last night |
| 21:22:52 | almogaver | aquí tienes |
| 21:23:01 | almogaver | bailé toda la noche pasada |
| 21:23:07 | nuum | pasada! |
| 21:23:15 | almogaver | last |
| 21:23:29 | nuum | so i say |
| 21:23:36 | nuum | bailo todo la noche pasada |
| 21:23:40 | nuum | this work? |
| 21:23:42 | almogaver | así que digo |
| 21:23:50 | almogaver | bailé toda la noche pasada |
| 21:23:56 | almogaver | é 'e |
| 21:24:09 | almogaver | do you see right the "é" ('e) |
| 21:24:12 | almogaver | ? |
| 21:24:27 | almogaver | rightly? |
| 21:24:28 | nuum | yep |
| 21:24:34 | nuum | it comes through |
| 21:25:01 | nuum | dood, go check out |
| 21:25:03 | nuum | http://www.campchaos.com/cartoons/tmaset/ |
| 21:25:15 | almogaver | anoche bailé toda la noche |
| 21:25:18 | almogaver | it works much better |
| 21:25:42 | almogaver | tonight I danced all the night |
| 21:29:24 | almogaver | that page freezes my Mozill |
| 21:29:28 | almogaver | Mozilla |
| 21:29:36 | nuum | go get the latest mozilla |
| 21:29:40 | almogaver | and my Netscape too |
| 21:29:44 | nuum | with latest shockwave flash |
| 21:29:49 | almogaver | I've the Mozilla 0.9.9 |
| 21:29:49 | nuum | welcome to linux :( |
| 21:29:56 | almogaver | the last |
| 21:29:58 | nuum | get .9.9+ |
| 21:30:00 | almogaver | and the latest flash too |
| 21:30:14 | nuum | well i've got all the latest, and it works :( |
| 21:31:13 | almogaver | Mozilla 1.0 RC1 has been released |
| 21:31:17 | almogaver | I'll try with it |
| 21:32:59 | vogon_jeltz | works great here. |
| 21:34:23 | nuum | bwahahha, oh horned one... |
| 21:39:37 | almogaver | gotta go |
| 21:39:39 | almogaver | bye |
| 21:50:58 | vogon_jeltz | crunches up his face. |
| 21:51:43 | vogon_jeltz | I *think* I can make a statbot by writing an eggdrop script and hooking it into a pared-down client networking/state engine. |
| 21:55:46 | nuum | statbot? |
| 21:55:50 | vogon_jeltz | yes. |
| 21:55:57 | nuum | what does a statbot do? |
| 21:56:03 | vogon_jeltz | it'd connect to ducati/bhaskara and keep tabs on games in progress. |
| 21:56:12 | nuum | i see |
| 21:56:20 | nuum | sup capn |
| 21:56:23 | proton-home | nuuuuuuum! |
| 21:56:26 | vogon_jeltz | then you could ask it about scores and keep yourself apprised of the game situation without having to visit. |
| 21:56:39 | proton-home | nuum: i found that i like aphex twin :) |
| 21:56:58 | nuum | good good, some of it is pretty cold, caustic, metallic |
| 21:57:13 | nuum | but some of it is really well put together |
| 21:57:17 | proton-home | but i can't find any of it online |
| 21:57:48 | nuum | i will send you some then when i get it off disk |
| 21:57:53 | proton-home | yay |
| 21:58:04 | nuum | his newer stuff i'm not too fond of |
| 21:58:10 | nuum | trying to work on the menu's |
| 21:58:12 | nuum | menus |
| 21:58:19 | proton-home | i keep telling you |
| 21:58:32 | proton-home | we need to write a widget set -before- we do the menus/interface stuff |
| 21:59:00 | nuum | its so difficult in the xml... |
| 21:59:22 | nuum | also the animation won't work (other than for menuptr it seems) |
| 21:59:28 | nuum | at least, i don't think it will... |
| 21:59:37 | proton-home | what animation do you want? |
| 22:00:23 | nuum | just say, the rotating tank, but larger |
| 22:00:36 | proton-home | thats easy enough |
| 22:01:14 | nuum | yeah, but if i do, say, cp menuptr.bzg teampurple.bzg, then throw the teampurple on the right hand part, i only get one frame of the animation really |
| 22:01:35 | proton-home | hum |
| 22:01:56 | nuum | anyway, i'm going out for some sunshine |
| 22:02:20 | proton-home | have fun |
| 22:02:30 | proton-home | who is 'lol' ? |
| 22:02:45 | lol | hmm? |
| 22:03:03 | proton-home | ... just wondering |
| 22:03:28 | lol | i've been under many names lately... |
| 22:10:39 | proton-home | blah |
| 22:10:51 | | yes |
| 22:10:51 | lol | bored? |
| 22:11:26 | proton-home | waiting for some stuff to download |
| 22:11:28 | proton-home | i hate 56k |
| 22:12:10 | | rcam was last seen on #bzflag 4 days, 12 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying: is away: I'm busy [Wed Apr 17 22:59:21 2002] |
| 22:12:10 | proton-home | ibot, seen rcam? |
| 22:13:42 | proton-home | :( |
| 22:16:19 | proton-home | how can he be interested in the project but not keep in touch? ;) |
| 22:18:38 | proton-home | maybe i hurt his ego more than i thought |
| 22:20:47 | proton-home | welcome to opensplits.net! |
| 22:26:01 | proton-home | doobeedoo |
| 22:28:10 | proton-home | lilo amuses me |
| 22:28:43 | proton-home | bears with them |
| 22:34:00 | proton-home | hmm |
| 22:38:40 | lol | it seems so dead here |
| 22:38:49 | proton-home | it is most of the time |
| 22:39:29 | lol | why does everybody come here then? :/ |
| 22:40:16 | proton-home | because this is where decisions are made about bzflag development |
| 22:41:26 | lol | hmmm |
| 22:41:35 | proton-home | if you're here when something comes up, you get to add your input |
| 22:42:52 | lol | need something interesting to talk about :) |
| 22:46:57 | lol | did you do anything interesting this weekend? |
| 22:47:32 | lol | can't think of a better topic right now :/ |
| 22:53:36 | proton-home | no |
| 23:07:48 | scanline | is away: dinner-ish-substances to eat |
| 23:10:11 | nuum | captain proton does not do interesting things on the weekend. that is #bzflag policy. |
| 23:11:05 | proton-home | does homework and laundry on the weekend |
| 23:11:51 | nuum | nuum is gonna clean his bathroom on the remainder of this weekend |
| 23:12:08 | nuum | this stupid cd player doesn't eject disks |
| 23:14:18 | proton-home | nuum: you'd be proud of me - i expanded my music collection to include a lot more 'modern' music |
| 23:15:00 | nuum | aphex? |
| 23:16:05 | nuum | i'm a fan of all the wierd different sounds they can get out of their machines |
| 23:16:14 | proton-home | a little bit |
| 23:16:14 | nuum | some of the music really isn't so great tho |
| 23:16:25 | proton-home | a lot of groups nobody has ever heard of |
| 23:16:36 | nuum | electronic? |
| 23:16:39 | proton-home | 'Plaid' for instance |
| 23:16:40 | proton-home | yeah |
| 23:17:06 | proton-home | is a major fan of seefeel now |
| 23:17:14 | nuum | i really like plaid |
| 23:17:20 | proton-home | hah |
| 23:17:28 | nuum | seefeel? |
| 23:17:39 | proton-home | yeah |
| 23:17:51 | proton-home | when i get back on campus i'll send you something of theirs |
| 23:17:55 | nuum | i'll have to find something... |
| 23:19:10 | proton-home | also, i found that some friends had been collecting the shost preludes & fugues |
| 23:19:14 | proton-home | but i don't have them all |
| 23:20:08 | nuum | do you have lopster? |
| 23:20:17 | proton-home | no |
| 23:20:35 | proton-home | i've been using audiogalaxy - its been working a lot better than anything else |
| 23:20:53 | nuum | lopster is like napster, approx 200 Tb on the server i'm on |
| 23:21:04 | proton-home | isn't lopster just an opennap client? |
| 23:21:18 | nuum | yeah, opennap i guess |
| 23:21:24 | nuum | seems to work for a lot of things |
| 23:22:39 | nuum | i need aa in mozilla |
| 23:23:00 | proton-home | aa isn't too hard to get in mozilla |
| 23:23:11 | proton-home | freetype + mozilla + aa = eye candy |
| 23:23:23 | proton-home | w00t |
| 23:23:29 | proton-home | finished the function point analysis stuff |
| 23:24:00 | nuum | how do i get it? recompilation necessary? |
| 23:24:05 | proton-home | smacks nuum with an Internal Logical File |
| 23:24:17 | proton-home | i think so |
| 23:24:30 | nuum | damn, mozilla build process never worked right for me |
| 23:24:45 | proton-home | it takes a few tries to get it right |
| 23:24:52 | proton-home | but once you know the process, its easy |
| 23:25:43 | proton-home | emails his spreadsheet to his group members |
| 23:26:24 | nuum | spreadsheet? group members? |
| 23:26:39 | nuum | man, up here they only teach us science in cpsc. |
| 23:27:14 | nuum | proton-home: this is what i envision |
| 23:27:24 | nuum | menu system eventually gets buttons |
| 23:27:34 | nuum | but for now, we do with the stuff here |
| 23:27:51 | nuum | on the left, menu for options/join/quit/etc. |
| 23:28:07 | proton-home | nuum: well, the CS department is part of the engineering school, so they have to teach SOME practicality courses |
| 23:28:10 | nuum | on the right, servers, or when we go into servers, a view of the game from above |
| 23:28:25 | proton-home | well |
| 23:28:29 | nuum | a current game, etc |
| 23:28:40 | proton-home | i think the server list should be a separate page |
| 23:28:48 | nuum | or initially i would like to see a rotating tank, big (half the screen) |
| 23:29:06 | nuum | well i think we should have it in a window that can fold, bring up statistics, etc |
| 23:29:14 | nuum | but that will take a lot of ui work |
| 23:29:17 | proton-home | hmm |
| 23:29:35 | proton-home | if we do the wiget set right (containers, packing, etc), it'll be fairly straightforward |
| 23:29:44 | nuum | rotate the tank around the axis parallel to its barrel |
| 23:30:03 | nuum | yeah, but can we bust it all down to xml? |
| 23:30:14 | proton-home | hmm |
| 23:30:22 | proton-home | we may have to bust in some TCL |
| 23:30:29 | | tcl is, like, at http://www.scriptics.com/ |
| 23:30:29 | nuum | tcl? |
| 23:30:33 | nuum | ugg |
| 23:30:36 | proton-home | tool command language |
| 23:30:59 | proton-home | its rapidly becoming -the- scripting language to plug into engines |
| 23:31:11 | nuum | hmmm |
| 23:31:15 | nuum | tickle? |
| 23:31:28 | proton-home | and vogon_jeltz is working on integrating it |
| 23:31:38 | proton-home | yes, thats the correct pronounciation |
| 23:31:54 | scanline | is back (gone 00:24:05) |
| 23:32:05 | proton-home | wb scanline |
| 23:32:12 | scanline | thanks proton-home |
| 23:32:55 | nuum | anyway, what we need for now are two different menu configurations. |
| 23:33:17 | nuum | one for when you are in a game (eg. change your options, quit current game, switch server) |
| 23:33:33 | nuum | and one for the initial menu |
| 23:33:48 | proton-home | i think it can be the same |
| 23:33:57 | proton-home | but the menu should be the root of the game, not the display |
| 23:34:08 | proton-home | right now, you have the initial screen, then it pushes menus |
| 23:34:08 | nuum | well the problem is you are still playing when the menu is up |
| 23:34:22 | proton-home | thats true... |
| 23:34:27 | nuum | i wonder if there is a switch like "playing" |
| 23:34:45 | nuum | "server" wouldn't work |
| 23:35:17 | proton-home | huh? |
| 23:36:11 | proton-home | hmm |
| 23:36:20 | proton-home | this summer i should go through and id3 tag all my music |
| 23:37:14 | nuum | there has to be an easier way |
| 23:37:38 | proton-home | easier way to do ? |
| 23:37:49 | nuum | id3 tags |
| 23:37:57 | nuum | you mean yourself, tag them all |
| 23:38:14 | proton-home | well |
| 23:38:24 | proton-home | what i'd probably do, since i've got them all in a nice directory structure |
| 23:38:36 | proton-home | is write a program that crawls the directories and sets the tags |
| 23:39:37 | nuum | ah, recursive like |
| 23:39:42 | proton-home | yeah |
| 23:39:55 | proton-home | composer/group->piece->movement/track |
| 23:40:02 | proton-home | in general |
| 23:40:17 | proton-home | hmm |
| 23:40:21 | scanline | proton-home: you home for the weekend? |
| 23:40:23 | proton-home | send me (here) an mp3 to listen to |
| 23:40:32 | proton-home | scanline: sorta - just for the day today |
| 23:40:33 | nuum | what do you feel like? |
| 23:40:35 | scanline | k |
| 23:40:49 | proton-home | nuum: i dunno - something unlike anything i've ever heard before |
| 23:40:56 | nuum | a little rap? |
| 23:41:07 | proton-home | nooo |
| 23:41:28 | proton-home | i have to hear way too much of that |
| 23:41:43 | nuum | this is slightly different |
| 23:41:43 | proton-home | something electronic, say... |
| 23:42:04 | nuum | you like radiohead? |
| 23:42:15 | proton-home | um - maybe? |
| 23:42:51 | nuum | i suggest the rap tho as well |
| 23:43:29 | proton-home | brb |
| 23:44:22 | nuum | its kind of drone like though |
| 23:47:35 | proton-home | thats fine |
| 23:48:05 | nuum | now i will send you some of my favorite |
| 23:48:12 | nuum | drum and bass |
| 23:48:15 | nuum | jazz |
| 23:48:28 | nuum | when it completes... |
| 23:48:30 | vogon_jeltz | works on res switching |
| 23:48:50 | vogon_jeltz | allow me to say that res switching is a pain in the ass. |
| 23:49:11 | vogon_jeltz | it'd be easy enough if I were starting from scratch, but I'm not, and it isn't. |
| 23:52:00 | Widget | Hi, all. |
| 23:52:18 | nuum | widget! we need widgets! |
| 23:53:36 | Widget | How about thingimabobs? |
| 23:55:35 | nuum | how bout crashing my mozilla |