| 00:21:42 | DemonMoose | hey everyone! how is it going? |
| 00:21:50 | tad___ | fine |
| 00:22:02 | | tad___: i haven't a clue |
| 00:22:02 | tad___ | ibot demonmoose? |
| 00:22:26 | | demonmoose was last seen on #bzflag 44 seconds ago, saying: hey everyone! how is it going? [Tue Apr 16 01:21:42 2002] |
| 00:22:26 | tad___ | ibot seen demonmoose |
| 00:22:43 | sekn | any news re: rcam's business model? |
| 00:22:44 | | bugger all, i dunno, demonmoose |
| 00:22:44 | DemonMoose | ibot tad___? |
| 00:22:56 | | a semi-sentient being arising from the primordial ooze |
| 00:22:56 | tad___ | ibot tad |
| 00:23:02 | | tad___: what? |
| 00:23:02 | tad___ | ibot tad_ |
| 00:23:38 | | tad___: Try a 4-letter station code (see http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/curcond.html for locations and codes) |
| 00:23:38 | tad___ | ibot weather for indialantic |
| 00:24:55 | captain_proton | boo! |
| 00:25:01 | tad___ | AH! |
| 00:25:02 | DemonMoose | proton! |
| 00:25:14 | sekn | ? captain_proton : I'm busy making money... |
| 00:25:26 | | DemonMoose: i'm not following you... |
| 00:25:26 | DemonMoose | ibot tad___ |
| 00:25:29 | captain_proton | sekn: good deal |
| 00:25:29 | DemonMoose | aww |
| 00:27:02 | captain_proton | needs rcam |
| 00:27:36 | sekn | updates bzflag's changelog with his company's logo |
| 00:27:46 | tad___ | lol |
| 00:28:09 | tad___ | :P |
| 00:31:14 | sekn | yes! my author's patch is now GPL. enjoy! |
| 00:31:35 | captain_proton | sekn: you're a genius! |
| 00:31:48 | tad___ | yea! |
| 00:32:14 | captain_proton | decides to wash his feet |
| 00:32:22 | DemonMoose | ? |
| 00:33:05 | captain_proton | sandals all day = dirty feet |
| 00:33:18 | tad_ | lol |
| 00:33:24 | tad_ | where are you located? |
| 00:33:35 | captain_proton | the US of A |
| 00:33:47 | sekn | what everyone else doesn't know: captain_proton squishes grapes for a living |
| 00:33:49 | tad_ | oh |
| 00:33:49 | tad_ | ok |
| 00:34:03 | tad_ | OH!!!! |
| 00:34:18 | tad_ | I see |
| 00:34:18 | captain_proton | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 00:34:25 | captain_proton | damn you sekn!!!!! |
| 00:34:28 | captain_proton | thats a secret!!!!!! |
| 00:35:28 | sekn | just remember that next time you have your wine... :P |
| 00:35:48 | tad_ | yuk! |
| 00:36:27 | captain_proton | wiggles his toes around |
| 00:37:05 | captain_proton | in reality, winemaking is a lifetime dream of mine |
| 00:37:07 | captain_proton | college is just a hobby |
| 00:37:21 | DemonMoose | proton- you can tell them your true lifetime dream |
| 00:37:31 | captain_proton | hah! |
| 00:37:50 | DemonMoose | aw- c'mon proton! |
| 00:38:22 | captain_proton | looks like all of h3c is down |
| 00:38:26 | DemonMoose | yep |
| 00:38:40 | DemonMoose | blame banned-it |
| 00:38:51 | sekn | thinks captain_proton 's wine would come out vinegar... |
| 00:39:06 | captain_proton | sekn: -raspberry- vinegar |
| 00:39:11 | DemonMoose | hah! |
| 00:39:15 | sekn | captain_proton: only with practice |
| 00:39:24 | captain_proton | shucks |
| 00:41:07 | captain_proton | shouts w00t! petroushka! |
| 00:41:36 | captain_proton | grabs a coke and sheds a tear of joy |
| 00:42:13 | almogaver | bye |
| 00:48:52 | | rcam was last seen on #bzflag 11 hours, 56 minutes and 8 seconds ago, saying: see you guys later [Mon Apr 15 13:52:44 2002] |
| 00:48:52 | BZFlag | ibot: seen rcam |
| 00:49:25 | BZFlag | Chestal: great work on the patches! I'll be digging into them more tonight. |
| 00:49:27 | captain_proton | BZFlag: you as much in need of entertainment as I? |
| 00:49:41 | BZFlag | heh. /me is just in need of time. |
| 00:50:01 | captain_proton | when does my hud get added to cvs? =} |
| 00:51:07 | BZFlag | everything fixed now? borders on the radar happy? |
| 00:51:15 | tad_ | lol |
| 00:51:24 | tad_ | when is the release time? |
| 00:51:32 | captain_proton | BZFlag: yep |
| 00:51:41 | captain_proton | BZFlag: only thing that isn't changed is the alert locations |
| 00:51:51 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i managed to center it but it was fugly as hell |
| 00:52:03 | BZFlag | tad_: oh, didn't rcam say he was releasing his completely fixed version today? I'm waiting to download that. (jk) |
| 00:52:25 | captain_proton | BZFlag: he was also planning to pull an all-nighter and rewrite our netcode |
| 00:52:35 | tad_ | really? |
| 00:52:37 | tad_ | cool! |
| 00:52:39 | BZFlag | captain_proton: that's ok, we can all work on little issue once it's in cvs. |
| 00:52:53 | captain_proton | tad_: thats what he said |
| 00:52:57 | captain_proton | tad_: thats not what he did |
| 00:52:59 | BZFlag | captain_proton: that was last night, so it should be done by now. |
| 00:53:14 | captain_proton | BZFlag: true, true |
| 00:53:30 | tad_ | what? |
| 00:53:41 | captain_proton | BZFlag: may I? |
| 00:54:18 | tad_ | say please |
| 00:54:22 | tad_ | :P |
| 00:54:29 | captain_proton | i'll go ahead |
| 00:54:33 | tad_ | lol |
| 00:54:33 | captain_proton | tad_: in short, rcam is full of it |
| 00:54:35 | sekn | didn't you get our business model/author's patch jokes, tad_ ? |
| 00:54:46 | tad_ | :) |
| 00:54:49 | tad_ | yup |
| 00:54:56 | tad_ | ok |
| 00:54:59 | tad_ | brb |
| 00:58:39 | captain_proton | pokes OPN |
| 00:58:50 | captain_proton | it doesn't keep whowas info on unregistered nicks |
| 00:59:08 | BZFlag | notes that it sounds like tad_ is still a believer |
| 00:59:30 | BZFlag | try seenserv? |
| 00:59:36 | captain_proton | BZFlag: have you talked with our friend yet? |
| 00:59:50 | BZFlag | no, he called my house, but I'm at work. |
| 00:59:54 | captain_proton | hah |
| 01:00:09 | captain_proton | i feel for ya |
| 01:00:17 | captain_proton | having to talk on the phone with him |
| 01:00:25 | BZFlag | stands ready with a 50lb unix manual to bop anyone that gives out his work phone number. |
| 01:00:44 | captain_proton | haha BZFlag |
| 01:00:50 | captain_proton | you should use more than one section |
| 01:01:15 | BZFlag | he knows all the right things that need to be done commercially, but I have yet to see any progress on any of them. |
| 01:01:24 | captain_proton | heh |
| 01:01:30 | captain_proton | so far we've seen that he's untrustworthy |
| 01:01:32 | BZFlag | I would be pleased to see that he actually can do some of them. |
| 01:01:40 | BZFlag | agreed. |
| 01:01:41 | captain_proton | notice that I -didn't- let him finish up my HUD? ;) |
| 01:02:06 | BZFlag | oh, he had it. perhaps he's done more with it than you have by now? (yeah right) |
| 01:02:13 | captain_proton | no before that |
| 01:02:17 | BZFlag | ah |
| 01:02:21 | captain_proton | when 'I AM BUSY!' |
| 01:02:34 | captain_proton | 'send it to me and i'll finish it ?' |
| 01:02:35 | BZFlag | heh oh yeah. I remember that. ;-) |
| 01:02:58 | | crs23 was last seen on #bzflag 4 days, 22 hours, 13 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying: cya [Thu Apr 11 03:49:09 2002] |
| 01:02:58 | BZFlag | ibot seen crs23 |
| 01:03:01 | captain_proton | heya nuum |
| 01:03:06 | nuum | yo proton |
| 01:03:22 | nuum | i rm -rf flag today. damn game is too addictive |
| 01:03:22 | BZFlag | wonders why nuum does not join as nuum in the first place. |
| 01:03:36 | nuum | my nick on my machine is blaboo, so it carries over |
| 01:03:40 | BZFlag | apt-get install bzflag* will get you another fix. ;-) |
| 01:03:47 | nuum | that, and i don't know how to use BitchX |
| 01:03:50 | captain_proton | BZFlag: debian sux0rs! |
| 01:03:53 | nuum | the crappiest irc client alive |
| 01:03:56 | nuum | slack owns |
| 01:03:58 | nuum | slack off! |
| 01:04:18 | | slackware is nothing but an hasty-witted quart of bawdy gunk. |
| 01:04:18 | BZFlag | ibot insult slackware |
| 01:04:19 | captain_proton | nuum: well, thats what you get for not using X |
| 01:04:20 | nuum | i don't need another fix from flag. i suffer from withdrawl |
| 01:04:39 | nuum | heh, what would you suggest |
| 01:04:48 | captain_proton | xchat |
| 01:04:50 | nuum | like i don't use X, like i'm not running blackbox right now |
| 01:05:04 | BZFlag | is kidding use what you like. but /me is TimR@Debian.org ;-) |
| 01:05:06 | nuum | yeah, xchat eh |
| 01:05:19 | nuum | debian is hip, but slack is the distro of champions |
| 01:05:47 | captain_proton | and LFS is for people who actually know what they're doing |
| 01:05:52 | nuum | thought i would check in and see how tank is progressing |
| 01:06:04 | nuum | LFS? linux from scratch? |
| 01:06:06 | captain_proton | debian stopped being hip once they went to more than one cd |
| 01:06:08 | nuum | i think i'll try it |
| 01:06:09 | captain_proton | nuum: thats the one |
| 01:06:22 | nuum | this summer, after i get my 499 final printed out |
| 01:06:28 | nuum | i'll move to LFS |
| 01:06:43 | nuum | bah, i'll just write my own os |
| 01:06:45 | captain_proton | i've got a nice build cd here if you want an iso ;) |
| 01:06:56 | BZFlag | captain_proton: hey, it's still just one dvd ;-) |
| 01:07:04 | captain_proton | haha |
| 01:07:06 | nuum | heh, one dvd |
| 01:07:09 | nuum | bwahahaha |
| 01:07:14 | captain_proton | hell |
| 01:07:16 | DemonMoose | proton- hw? |
| 01:07:17 | captain_proton | suse would be one dvd |
| 01:07:22 | captain_proton | DemonMoose: paper! |
| 01:07:26 | nuum | captain_proton, are you missing me beating your meq bum? |
| 01:07:32 | BZFlag | I thought suse had a dvd version out, no? |
| 01:07:45 | captain_proton | nuum: in order to miss it, wouldn't it had to have happened? |
| 01:07:48 | nuum | i don't even have a dvd drive |
| 01:08:04 | nuum | well in your simplified causal universe, i suppose |
| 01:08:23 | BZFlag | nuum use the money you would have spend on a win* license to buy a dvd drive then. ;-) |
| 01:08:23 | nuum | however, here in reality, z00 owns |
| 01:08:45 | nuum | i'm moving my folks onto linux too |
| 01:09:00 | nuum | i've had enough of win* slowing down and stopping a 400 mhz processor cold |
| 01:09:07 | nuum | 400 mhz should rip. |
| 01:09:20 | captain_proton | 1.7 rips pretty good |
| 01:09:30 | nuum | i need a sound editing program though, anything out there like soundforge for linux? |
| 01:09:40 | nuum | captain_proton: maybe we should write a tracker program? |
| 01:09:40 | BZFlag | recalls the day he used autocad on his first 386/16 with a 387 in it! now that ripped! |
| 01:09:54 | nuum | gotta have the coprocessor |
| 01:10:05 | tad_ | lol |
| 01:10:06 | nuum | don't crunch numbers without it |
| 01:10:14 | BZFlag | apt-cache search tracker. ;-) |
| 01:10:31 | captain_proton | nuum: tracker? |
| 01:10:32 | nuum | what is this apt-cache? apt-get? cute name |
| 01:10:41 | captain_proton | has porn-cache and porn-get |
| 01:10:44 | nuum | um maybe something like fruity loops |
| 01:10:45 | BZFlag | debian package utils. |
| 01:10:59 | captain_proton | courtesy of linuxforlesbians.org |
| 01:11:04 | nuum | bah, i compile all my stuff |
| 01:11:11 | captain_proton | nuum: even your porn? |
| 01:11:19 | nuum | poto: that link really work? |
| 01:11:23 | captain_proton | nuum: yep |
| 01:11:31 | captain_proton | nuum: find the porn project - quite ingenious |
| 01:11:34 | nuum | compile it all myself, from all my recent girlfriends ;) |
| 01:13:07 | nuum | thanks for working around all the herpes! |
| 01:13:10 | nuum | bwahahahaha |
| 01:13:38 | sekn | shudders |
| 01:13:47 | captain_proton | hah |
| 01:14:05 | captain_proton | needs a visit from rcam |
| 01:14:15 | nuum | how is ol rcam? |
| 01:14:22 | captain_proton | hasn't been in today |
| 01:15:24 | nuum | i need a blond girl with a linux tattoo |
| 01:15:40 | sekn | captain_proton: i bent my wifflebat :( |
| 01:15:59 | nuum | mrs. hoover, i ate my worm. can i have another? |
| 01:16:44 | captain_proton | sekn: i told you that would happen if they were left over there |
| 01:16:53 | sekn | like your driver? |
| 01:16:58 | captain_proton | yeah =| |
| 01:18:43 | captain_proton | i still haven't forgiven you for that |
| 01:19:10 | sekn | haha |
| 01:19:16 | sekn | doesn't care :P |
| 01:20:22 | | rcam was last seen on #bzflag 12 hours, 27 minutes and 38 seconds ago, saying: see you guys later [Mon Apr 15 13:52:44 2002] |
| 01:20:22 | tad_ | ibot seen rcam |
| 01:39:38 | captain_proton | pokes DemonMoose |
| 01:39:53 | tad_ | poke him harder |
| 01:40:02 | captain_proton | punches DemonMoose |
| 01:40:19 | tad_ | rams a hammer into DemonMoose |
| 01:40:49 | tad_ | thinks he feels like jelly |
| 01:51:34 | BZFlag | all you slackers should go code something. ;-) |
| 01:51:51 | tad_ | yea! |
| 01:52:06 | tad_ | I need to learn perl |
| 01:52:11 | tad_ | :) |
| 01:52:14 | sekn | (no you don't!) |
| 01:52:22 | tad_ | (why?) |
| 01:53:09 | sekn | perl if awful (don't kick me, Ops!) |
| 01:53:44 | tad_ | can anyone try my server? |
| 01:54:02 | tad_ | its called windowspro on the find servers list |
| 01:55:45 | tad_ | anyone? |
| 02:02:20 | BZFlag | go rank BZFlag on hapy penguin. only 4 votes needed to move to number 2 in the list. |
| 02:07:19 | BZFlag | http://happypenguin.org/show?BZFlag |
| 02:18:33 | fontenot | going there now |
| 02:19:37 | fontenot | looking for a voting form... |
| 02:20:02 | BZFlag | you have to sign up for an account in order to rank games. |
| 02:20:09 | BZFlag | else you can just leave comments. |
| 02:20:16 | BZFlag | later. |
| 02:26:38 | fontenot | so the rcam announcement has been delayed ? |
| 02:27:42 | fontenot | hmm i clocked on active players got nothing |
| 02:36:33 | captain_proton | grr where did riker go? |
| 02:38:01 | captain_proton | fontenot: with whats been going on with rcam it looks like there will be no announcement at all |
| 02:48:44 | captain_proton | sekn: bzeee? |
| 02:49:31 | sekn | captain_proton: suuuuure. |
| 02:49:57 | captain_proton | decks |
| 02:50:09 | sekn | yah, see you there. (need coke) |
| 02:51:47 | captain_proton | where are you ?? |
| 03:00:29 | sekn | sorry- ps demo |
| 03:00:37 | captain_proton | geez |
| 03:00:38 | captain_proton | ready? |
| 03:15:48 | captain_proton | heya MrApathyCream |
| 03:16:41 | captain_proton | <cf> no. i don't think im the only who knows linux :P <cf> but, obviusly.. evil dont :P |
| 03:16:42 | captain_proton | whee |
| 03:18:10 | MrApathyCream | hey |
| 03:18:27 | captain_proton | is 'evil' (nick on that irc is evil_enchilada) |
| 03:19:18 | captain_proton | pokes vogon_jeltz |
| 03:19:19 | sekn | captain_proton: you are hardcore win32... just look at your version |
| 03:19:24 | captain_proton | sekn: i know |
| 03:19:37 | captain_proton | sekn: i asked if they really believe version replies - someone else pointed out you can change them |
| 03:19:42 | captain_proton | lemme find his response |
| 03:19:57 | captain_proton | <cf> evil_enchilada: you dont know crap about mirc scripting :P |
| 03:19:58 | captain_proton | <cf> so you dont know how to chang it |
| 03:20:04 | captain_proton | <evil_enchilada> cf: probably because I don't run mIRC |
| 03:20:13 | captain_proton | <cf> oh, btw, you could do another reply, but, for hex it, needs a couples of dlls |
| 03:20:13 | captain_proton | <cf> dat, you dont have |
| 03:20:14 | sekn | mine is believable too... |
| 03:20:39 | captain_proton | no it isn't |
| 03:20:41 | scanline | is away: doing laundry, standing in the wet room |
| 03:20:45 | sekn | no? .8? |
| 03:20:50 | captain_proton | believed, but maybe not believable |
| 03:21:36 | captain_proton | where is rcam? |
| 03:21:38 | captain_proton | is bored |
| 03:21:45 | sekn | he's right though- 'you dont know crap about mirc scripting' |
| 03:21:52 | captain_proton | uhhuh |
| 03:22:40 | sekn | what room are you in with 'cf'? |
| 03:22:52 | captain_proton | it was on AO - they left before i could have too much fun with them |
| 03:24:19 | captain_proton | needs a good skiddie or linux bigot to play with |
| 03:24:21 | sekn | could pick up some 'tips' from antionline... |
| 03:25:53 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 03:26:09 | captain_proton | sekn: any interest in writing code? |
| 03:41:00 | sekn | captain_proton: none at all :) |
| 03:41:14 | captain_proton | fine then |
| 03:48:48 | scanline | is back (gone 00:28:06) |
| 03:56:03 | scanline | is away: time for some AD&D |
| 04:06:17 | rcam | hey |
| 04:06:34 | martyr | howdy. |
| 04:06:37 | rcam | Sorry I was not around tonight I had to go over to some new relitives home, |
| 04:06:53 | martyr | just looking for BZflag.. |
| 04:07:04 | martyr | guess I'll try the direct line... |
| 04:07:23 | martyr | later.. |
| 04:13:26 | sekn | hi rcam |
| 04:24:10 | captain_proton | heyas all |
| 04:24:47 | sekn | hi captain_proton |
| 04:25:41 | sekn | any progress on the netcode captain_proton ? |
| 04:25:58 | captain_proton | thats not my focus right now |
| 04:26:18 | sekn | thought is was going to take all night |
| 04:27:27 | captain_proton | is bored |
| 04:27:47 | captain_proton | wb nuum |
| 04:27:58 | blaboo | wb? |
| 04:28:06 | captain_proton | welcome back |
| 04:28:10 | captain_proton | what bitrate are these? :) |
| 04:28:11 | blaboo | ah |
| 04:28:27 | blaboo | 128 |
| 04:28:32 | captain_proton | yaaay! |
| 04:28:33 | blaboo | little better |
| 04:28:49 | captain_proton | ever heard the tahiti trot? |
| 04:28:51 | blaboo | a little cleaner, not so shrill on the heavy parts |
| 04:28:58 | blaboo | no, well maybe |
| 04:29:01 | blaboo | don't think so |
| 04:29:11 | captain_proton | shost, surprisingly enough |
| 04:29:27 | blaboo | i should send you the 24 preludes and fugues |
| 04:29:35 | blaboo | in fact... |
| 04:30:11 | rcam | hey |
| 04:30:14 | captain_proton | hey rcam |
| 04:30:25 | blaboo | hows rcam today? |
| 04:30:26 | rcam | ANything new? |
| 04:30:33 | rcam | blaboo Ok |
| 04:30:45 | rcam | blaboo Tired but I want to write some code |
| 04:31:07 | blaboo | i'm tired too |
| 04:31:11 | rcam | I noticed the patchs. |
| 04:31:23 | blaboo | with patches? |
| 04:31:26 | blaboo | which? |
| 04:31:31 | rcam | The HUD patch has a bug that makes the most reasent CVS messed up. |
| 04:31:39 | captain_proton | oh? |
| 04:31:45 | blaboo | yeah, gotta shift the x = centerx; y = centery; |
| 04:31:48 | rcam | blaboo https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 04:31:54 | blaboo | on like line 959 or so |
| 04:32:00 | rcam | yes and more |
| 04:32:04 | rcam | One makes it just freeze |
| 04:32:08 | blaboo | proton hasn't worked in my shot indicator yet |
| 04:32:10 | blaboo | :( |
| 04:32:18 | blaboo | and this tahiti trot is terrible |
| 04:32:21 | captain_proton | haha blaboo |
| 04:32:27 | captain_proton | its a funny piece of music |
| 04:32:36 | captain_proton | you'd never have expected shostakovich to write something like it |
| 04:32:47 | blaboo | it should be skating music |
| 04:33:02 | blaboo | enjoy bartok prot? |
| 04:33:23 | captain_proton | blaboo: to a point |
| 04:33:38 | sekn | captain_proton: you messed up cvs! |
| 04:33:41 | blaboo | what do you mean? |
| 04:33:46 | blaboo | to a point? |
| 04:33:52 | blaboo | no comprendo |
| 04:34:02 | rcam | brb I am fixing |
| 04:34:02 | captain_proton | sekn: not at all |
| 04:34:14 | captain_proton | blaboo: i enjoy bartok for a while |
| 04:34:23 | captain_proton | his dance suite owns me :) |
| 04:34:25 | blaboo | my fucking cd player is retarded. it won't eject a cd |
| 04:34:34 | blaboo | i have to reboot cuz my cd player doesn't open! |
| 04:34:36 | captain_proton | blaboo: mounted perhaps? |
| 04:34:39 | blaboo | this computer is done for! |
| 04:34:44 | blaboo | i'm going to destroy it |
| 04:34:52 | rcam | captain_proton I am having fun on E6 |
| 04:34:55 | blaboo | no, i don't ever get anything on data cd. |
| 04:35:04 | blaboo | cmon, i'm not retarded |
| 04:35:11 | blaboo | i just want to listen to dvorak |
| 04:35:22 | captain_proton | rcam: thats good but i'm concerned that my patch is locking up X |
| 04:35:30 | blaboo | instead i get boards of canada |
| 04:35:31 | captain_proton | as you say it is |
| 04:35:34 | rcam | HEY |
| 04:35:36 | captain_proton | can you to a stack trace? |
| 04:35:47 | rcam | captain_proton iT WAS |
| 04:35:52 | rcam | captain_proton Now its not |
| 04:35:59 | rcam | captain_proton It was just me |
| 04:36:04 | captain_proton | explain? |
| 04:36:04 | rcam | captain_proton Sorry |
| 04:36:25 | rcam | captain_proton BZFlag did not free up all my video ram and I ran out |
| 04:36:27 | blaboo | [blaboo:cormack] ~ $ eject |
| 04:36:27 | blaboo | eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument |
| 04:36:33 | blaboo | goddamn |
| 04:36:34 | rcam | Because I ran it 200 times in a row |
| 04:36:44 | captain_proton | rcam: um |
| 04:36:48 | captain_proton | rcam: you are on linux right? |
| 04:36:53 | rcam | yes |
| 04:36:58 | blaboo | free up video ram? |
| 04:37:05 | rcam | Long story |
| 04:37:09 | rcam | It was a personal problem |
| 04:37:14 | rcam | I fixed it |
| 04:37:22 | captain_proton | rcam: because of linux's memory management, it isn't possible to leave leaks after a program quits |
| 04:37:36 | rcam | Well I dont know hwat happened |
| 04:37:38 | rcam | But it did |
| 04:37:42 | rcam | And Its perfect now |
| 04:37:50 | sekn | personal? like incontenance? |
| 04:37:56 | rcam | yes |
| 04:38:05 | rcam | JUst something messed up on my computer |
| 04:41:12 | sekn | blaboo: boards of canada? |
| 04:41:33 | blaboo | my masters from scotland |
| 04:41:48 | blaboo | you dig boc? |
| 04:42:04 | sekn | i do :) |
| 04:42:26 | blaboo | just listening to geogaddi right now |
| 04:42:41 | blaboo | just relax, and enjoy this pleasant adventure. |
| 04:42:43 | blaboo | ;) |
| 04:42:55 | rcam | I am recompiling with all the wonderful patchs :) |
| 04:43:28 | blaboo | my buddy has music has the right to children and geogaddi on vinyl, i want to hear him spin it at a party sometime |
| 04:44:33 | captain_proton | rameses nibleck the third, kerplunk kerplunk wheres my widget? |
| 04:45:07 | captain_proton | awwww |
| 04:45:22 | captain_proton | come back, mr BS, come back! |
| 04:45:43 | rcam | hmm |
| 04:45:50 | rcam | nevermind |
| 04:45:53 | blaboo | hows the code hacking rcam? |
| 04:46:10 | sekn | no! my video memory has been used up too! |
| 04:46:24 | rcam | Its just happened to em again |
| 04:46:30 | rcam | blaboo Good... |
| 04:46:44 | captain_proton | rcam: what are you working on? |
| 04:46:51 | rcam | blaboo Its funny for the Mac OS X patch my texture pack was used as well as a few other patchs |
| 04:47:16 | blaboo | mac os x? texture pack? speak english! |
| 04:47:51 | rcam | captain_proton HUD, freezes in X, and network incompadibility |
| 04:48:25 | sekn | works to free his precious video ram... |
| 04:49:13 | captain_proton | blaboo: these trumpets are flat! |
| 04:49:24 | captain_proton | i like the tempo better in the first movement though |
| 04:53:19 | captain_proton | hrms |
| 04:55:28 | captain_proton | that timpani player is playing his heart out |
| 04:59:26 | rcam | I am sorry BUt I dont feel good again and I need sleep |
| 04:59:31 | rcam | SO see ya tomorrow guys |
| 04:59:48 | rcam | is away: sleeping |
| 05:04:20 | captain_proton | jpablo_chan? ;) |
| 05:04:49 | sekn | jpablo_kun ga nihongo wo yoku hanasukotogadekiru ka? |
| 05:05:08 | captain_proton | stop that sekn |
| 05:05:12 | sekn | stops |
| 05:05:15 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:05:22 | | i don't know, captain_proton |
| 05:05:22 | captain_proton | ibot, x jp en jpablo_kun ga nihongo wo yoku hanasukotogadekiru ka? |
| 05:05:27 | captain_proton | fine then |
| 05:05:42 | sekn | I can't type in kana, etc. |
| 05:05:49 | captain_proton | true |
| 05:05:58 | captain_proton | what did you ask? |
| 05:06:07 | sekn | if he speaks nihongo :) |
| 05:06:25 | jpablo_kun | sekn: sorry i don't speak japanese i just like anime :-P |
| 05:06:42 | jpablo_kun | pero podemos hablar en español si quieres :-) |
| 05:07:17 | sekn | sumimasen... español ga wakanakunai |
| 05:09:13 | jpablo_kun | humm, no entiendo ni papa. |
| 05:12:10 | sekn | ibot, x es en pero podemos hablar en español si quieres |
| 05:12:11 | | sekn: but we can speak in espa |
| 05:12:19 | sekn | oh! gotcha |
| 05:12:30 | captain_proton | heh |
| 05:12:53 | sekn | ibot, x es en personal? like incontenance? |
| 05:12:54 | | sekn: personnel? like incontenance? |
| 05:12:58 | sekn | oops... |
| 05:13:20 | captain_proton | heh |
| 05:18:59 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: V yvxr gur vapbagvarapr orggre va gur svefg zbirzrag |
| 05:19:08 | | I like the incontinence better in the first movement |
| 05:19:08 | captain_proton | ibot, rot13 V yvxr gur vapbagvarapr orggre va gur svefg zbirzrag |
| 05:19:12 | captain_proton | eww |
| 05:19:20 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 05:19:49 | jpablo_kun | balla balla, parece que la comunidad bzflaguera es bastante internacional :-) |
| 05:22:03 | blaboo | bzflag is an international bastard? just like that damn capton bry! |
| 05:22:29 | captain_proton | lol |
| 05:22:37 | blaboo | whoze ya padre? |
| 05:22:40 | captain_proton | its not 'capton bry', its 'CAPTON BRY' |
| 05:22:43 | sekn | Capton Bry!? I'm letting him join MY ctf team. |
| 05:23:05 | blaboo | too bad, he's my son, the ministry said i get to keep him |
| 05:23:22 | captain_proton | ministry? |
| 05:23:38 | blaboo | oh sorry. up here we are a little more socialist |
| 05:23:53 | blaboo | i don't know how social welfare is worked out in the us |
| 05:24:14 | blaboo | i know that they do bomb socialist countries tho! |
| 05:24:45 | blaboo | captain proton! status report! |
| 05:24:55 | blaboo | in my ready room, 0800 hours |
| 05:25:11 | captain_proton | blaboo: drop the star trek |
| 05:25:18 | captain_proton | i had this nickname before voyager did |
| 05:25:46 | blaboo | capton poto de soto more mofo blowing pro porphyrins |
| 05:26:01 | sekn | voyager has a captain proton? I can't believe you copied that, cp. |
| 05:26:10 | blaboo | ya, thats lame |
| 05:26:26 | captain_proton | star trek lost in space sucks ass |
| 05:26:30 | | pncgba cbgb qr fbgb zber zbsb oybjvat ceb cbeculevaf |
| 05:26:30 | blaboo | ibot, rot13 capton poto de soto more mofo blowing pro porphyrins |
| 05:26:33 | captain_proton | i'm just too stubborn to give up this nick |
| 05:26:48 | blaboo | we will call you "ceb" |
| 05:26:55 | blaboo | thats rot13 for "pro" |
| 05:26:59 | blaboo | don't believe me? |
| 05:27:03 | | pro |
| 05:27:03 | blaboo | ibot, rot13 ceb |
| 05:27:51 | captain_cebton | I like BZFlag. |
| 05:27:58 | blaboo | lol |
| 05:28:27 | captain_proton | starts listening to some tavener |
| 05:28:28 | blaboo | rot13 just works mod 2*13? |
| 05:28:49 | captain_proton | blaboo: its just a caesar cipher using 13 characters |
| 05:28:50 | blaboo | tavener? wtf is tavener? |
| 05:28:58 | captain_proton | blaboo: john tavener - obscure composer |
| 05:29:12 | | nopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklm |
| 05:29:12 | blaboo | ibot, rot13 abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz |
| 05:29:30 | blaboo | captain_proton: 20th century? |
| 05:29:41 | captain_proton | blaboo: yep |
| 05:29:43 | sekn | listens to john cage... a _real_ composer. |
| 05:29:48 | blaboo | ugggg |
| 05:29:56 | captain_proton | john cage is a sensationalist |
| 05:30:13 | blaboo | john cage can suck my squarepushing knob |
| 05:30:37 | sekn | squarepushing... like squarepusher? and no he can't... |
| 05:30:57 | blaboo | tj owns |
| 05:31:56 | blaboo | well i gotta reboot now, my cd player doesn't work |
| 05:32:01 | blaboo | how goddamn stupid |
| 05:32:14 | captain_proton | heh |
| 05:32:20 | captain_proton | thats what you get for using a "distro" |
| 05:32:26 | sekn | captain_proton: yes! |
| 05:32:29 | captain_proton | don't even start sekn |
| 05:32:45 | blaboo | distro? |
| 05:32:49 | blaboo | i'm moving to crux |
| 05:32:51 | blaboo | LFS? |
| 05:32:58 | blaboo | give me an iso |
| 05:32:58 | sekn | captain_proton runs /redhat/ by the way |
| 05:33:04 | blaboo | oh no |
| 05:33:10 | captain_proton | sekn: because i don't have time to reinstall right now |
| 05:33:13 | blaboo | captain proton, i thought we talked about this |
| 05:33:14 | blaboo | redhat |
| 05:33:18 | captain_proton | needs his computer for his classes |
| 05:33:19 | sekn | I weep, captain_proton |
| 05:33:43 | blaboo | yeah, i'm forced to use rh at school |
| 05:33:54 | blaboo | could be worse. could be doing my prolog on a win2k box |
| 05:34:09 | blaboo | but captain proton, redhat? for sure? |
| 05:34:15 | sekn | captain_proton: you said you were bored. |
| 05:34:40 | sekn | unistalls all of captain_proton's rpms. |
| 05:34:42 | captain_proton | sekn: that doesn't mean i can afford to not have a functioning computer for a few days |
| 05:34:55 | blaboo | slack takes about 20 mins to install |
| 05:34:56 | captain_proton | sekn: my rpm db is so broken that probably won't work |
| 05:35:01 | blaboo | 20 minutes! |
| 05:35:23 | captain_proton | blaboo: i have about 60 gb of stuff i'd like to keep around - know somewhere i can store it while i reinstall? ;) |
| 05:35:25 | blaboo | man it wouldn't even be midnight before the thing is running 20 times better |
| 05:35:33 | blaboo | um, a different partition? |
| 05:35:41 | captain_proton | blaboo: hard disk is nearly full |
| 05:35:47 | captain_proton | and no $$ |
| 05:35:52 | blaboo | with 60gb i would think so |
| 05:36:00 | captain_proton | well |
| 05:36:02 | captain_proton | the disk is 80 |
| 05:36:09 | blaboo | do you have all your home files and your system files on one partition? |
| 05:36:19 | blaboo | i didn't think redhat allowed you to do that! |
| 05:36:23 | sekn | (redhat probably takes up the other 20G) |
| 05:36:26 | captain_proton | blaboo: yep :) |
| 05:36:28 | captain_proton | haha sekn |
| 05:36:36 | captain_proton | sekn: windows takes up the other 20 =| |
| 05:36:42 | blaboo | well there you go |
| 05:36:46 | blaboo | just cut windows |
| 05:36:47 | sekn | windows! |
| 05:36:51 | captain_proton | i can't cut it |
| 05:36:53 | blaboo | two birds, one stone |
| 05:36:54 | sekn | you have windows too! |
| 05:37:00 | blaboo | my god, what are we gonna do |
| 05:37:04 | captain_proton | there aren't any music composition programs for linux worth a SHIT |
| 05:37:20 | blaboo | captain_proton: you run fl? cakewalk? what? |
| 05:37:21 | captain_proton | and its hard to do music theory composition assignments without notation software |
| 05:37:24 | sekn | captain_proton: you are a _programmer_ |
| 05:37:25 | captain_proton | blaboo: overture |
| 05:37:37 | blaboo | you can use tex for laying out notes |
| 05:37:40 | captain_proton | sekn: yes, but until i've finished a program, i need windows |
| 05:37:50 | captain_proton | MusiXTeX can kiss my ass |
| 05:37:58 | blaboo | proton, i'm serious, i need something to compose with under linux |
| 05:38:03 | blaboo | we gotta build something so out there |
| 05:38:15 | captain_proton | blaboo: i'm planning a project along those lines already |
| 05:38:16 | sekn | you should learn about music first, captain_proton :) |
| 05:38:24 | blaboo | wtf? just write it on some paper. your a composer, can't you do that? |
| 05:38:32 | captain_proton | sekn: shut up - i know more music theory than you ever will |
| 05:38:33 | blaboo | you're... |
| 05:38:35 | captain_proton | blaboo: i'm not a composer |
| 05:38:46 | blaboo | you are going into composition though? |
| 05:38:48 | sekn | music theory maybe... but music I am king! |
| 05:38:49 | captain_proton | no |
| 05:39:03 | blaboo | its all I-V-I ain't it? |
| 05:39:15 | captain_proton | sekn: neutral milk hotel's "ah-hay looooove yooooou jeeeeezuus carahaist" isn't music |
| 05:39:16 | sekn | (or was a while ago) |
| 05:39:26 | captain_proton | blaboo: I-IV-V-I ;) |
| 05:39:33 | blaboo | maybe a ii? |
| 05:40:29 | blaboo | captain_proton: got any stuff done? i'd like to hear some cp four part harmony |
| 05:40:40 | captain_proton | blaboo: nothing in 4-part |
| 05:40:59 | blaboo | dood, sekn knows about the squarepusher. that puts him about here in my book. |
| 05:41:04 | captain_proton | blaboo: i just finished a horrid piece with a single solo line ;) |
| 05:41:10 | captain_proton | its got some chords at the end though |
| 05:41:54 | blaboo | thats what i'll do! i'll go do some fruity loops tonight |
| 05:42:03 | captain_proton | ? |
| 05:42:09 | blaboo | maybe a waltz? a tango? |
| 05:42:21 | blaboo | maybe a bzmarch? |
| 05:42:31 | blaboo | ever played with fruity loops proton? |
| 05:42:39 | captain_proton | blaboo: you mean the froot loops? |
| 05:42:44 | captain_proton | the ctf team? |
| 05:42:46 | blaboo | not the cereal |
| 05:42:50 | blaboo | not the ctf team |
| 05:43:06 | captain_proton | than what? |
| 05:43:07 | blaboo | its a windoze program that allows you to line up your patterns |
| 05:43:16 | blaboo | all kinds of plugins, awesome looking interface |
| 05:43:21 | blaboo | quite a lot of work really |
| 05:43:31 | | MrApathyCream: i'm not following you... |
| 05:43:31 | MrApathyCream | ibot rotGoogle ah-hay looooove yooooou jeeeeezuus carahaist |
| 05:44:00 | blaboo | sekn: i suppose you observe 420? |
| 05:44:38 | sekn | no! I observe 4/01. |
| 05:44:46 | captain_proton | lol |
| 05:44:52 | blaboo | highway 401? i love that stretch |
| 05:45:16 | blaboo | man, when i was young, i used to cruise 401 all day. pick up hookers, throw money around, dog, the whole shootinmatch |
| 05:50:36 | sekn | you want a `ls /mnt/media/music`, blaboo ? |
| 05:50:45 | captain_proton | goes to print out some stuff |
| 05:59:12 | captain_proton | returns |
| 06:12:51 | sekn | fixed my video ram! |
| 06:13:05 | captain_proton | w00t |
| 06:20:20 | sekn | ibot, x en es time |
| 06:20:21 | | sekn: |
| 06:21:12 | sekn | ibot, x en sp time |
| 06:21:13 | | sekn: |
| 06:21:15 | sekn | ? |
| 06:22:43 | sekn | ibot, x es en time |
| 06:22:44 | | sekn: Time |
| 06:22:54 | captain_proton | ibot, x es en tiempo |
| 06:22:54 | sekn | ibot, x en es time |
| 06:22:55 | | captain_proton: time |
| 06:22:55 | | sekn: |
| 06:23:02 | | sekn: sorry... |
| 06:23:02 | sekn | you little fucker, ibot |
| 06:23:22 | captain_proton | ibot, x en es time |
| 06:23:22 | | captain_proton: |
| 06:23:25 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 06:25:09 | captain_proton | heya timmy |
| 06:26:16 | BZFlag | heya |
| 06:26:43 | BZFlag | our buddy been by tonight? |
| 06:26:48 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 06:27:01 | BZFlag | did he actually do anything? |
| 06:27:25 | captain_proton | <captain_proton> rcam: what are you working on? |
| 06:27:30 | captain_proton | <rcam> captain_proton HUD, freezes in X, and network incompadibility |
| 06:27:34 | captain_proton | <rcam> I am sorry BUt I dont feel good again and I need sleep |
| 06:27:34 | captain_proton | <rcam> SO see ya tomorrow guys |
| 06:27:48 | captain_proton | grins |
| 06:27:58 | MrApathyCream | i thought was working on incontinance |
| 06:28:50 | captain_proton | had no idea the network was incompadible |
| 06:29:25 | MrApathyCream | incompadible... lol... i saw that too |
| 06:30:07 | MrApathyCream | <rcam> for the Mac OS X patch my texture pack was used as well |
| 06:30:36 | captain_proton | his texture pack is the ugliest thing i've ever seen :) |
| 06:33:37 | MrApathyCream | any more checkins gonna happen before e5/6? |
| 06:33:38 | BZFlag | where is the "Mac OS X patch" ? |
| 06:33:51 | captain_proton | dunno |
| 06:33:53 | BZFlag | EddieNull: you around? have you made a patch? or just a source tarball? |
| 06:33:54 | sekn | where is the 'DirectX' patch? |
| 06:33:59 | captain_proton | haha sekn |
| 06:34:14 | BZFlag | sekn: "deltree c:\" |
| 06:34:33 | captain_proton | BZFlag: we had a cheater tell us he had to run bzflag in wine because his video card only supported directx |
| 06:34:49 | jacques | where's the special graphics for nvidia users? |
| 06:34:49 | captain_proton | badger was there =) |
| 06:34:51 | sekn | BZFlag: hehe, but sadly no deltree on this box... |
| 06:35:03 | captain_proton | sekn: i could code ya up an alias that would work just as well |
| 06:35:11 | sekn | I was just thinking that! |
| 06:35:31 | BZFlag | heh. get cygwin or 4dos and experience a (close to) real shell. |
| 06:35:35 | MrApathyCream | stimmj == EddieNull ? |
| 06:35:48 | captain_proton | BZFlag: sekn's a leenoox user |
| 06:35:59 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: don't know EddieNull == kevin. |
| 06:36:14 | sekn | Linux allt 2.4.18 #1 Thu Mar 21 21:03:55 MST 2002 i686 unknown |
| 06:36:19 | sekn | ha! |
| 06:37:01 | BZFlag | oh yeah, yer the slak fan, right? ;-) |
| 06:37:17 | captain_proton | SysInfo: Linux 2.4.16 | Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1700MHz 1694.888 MHz | Mem: 107/255M 14[4||||3||||||14] | Diskspace: 62G Free: 0G | Bogomips: 3381.65 | Screen Res: 1600x1200 | Procs: 105 | Uptime: 2 days, 8:13 | Load Average: 0.05, 0.05, 0.00 | eth0: In: 948.77M Out: 660.62M | lo: In: 10.04M Out: 10.04M |
| 06:37:21 | captain_proton | w00t |
| 06:37:35 | sekn | no slak here, also not running captain_proton's redhat leenox. |
| 06:37:40 | captain_proton | haha sekn |
| 06:37:46 | captain_proton | BZFlag: nuum's the slack fan |
| 06:37:51 | BZFlag | captain_proton: VERSION mIRC v6.0 Khaled Mardam-Bey |
| 06:37:58 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i am aware of this |
| 06:38:04 | BZFlag | heh |
| 06:38:50 | | Xunyrq Zneqnz-Orl |
| 06:38:50 | MrApathyCream | ibot, rot13 Khaled Mardam-Bey |
| 06:40:06 | sekn | runs the 31337357 version of mIRC... |
| 06:40:36 | captain_proton | enough numbers there? |
| 06:40:53 | captain_proton | i've gotta see the AO people's reaction to that |
| 06:42:09 | captain_proton | that sucked |
| 06:42:15 | captain_proton | goes back to his arp coding |
| 06:42:17 | scanline | is back (gone 02:46:14) |
| 06:42:46 | MrApathyCream | hmmm captain_proton, DemonMoose, scanline, sekn all colorado edu fellas? |
| 06:43:07 | scanline | eh? |
| 06:43:10 | captain_proton | yep |
| 06:43:16 | scanline | wow.. |
| 06:43:22 | captain_proton | scanline is the odd one out |
| 06:43:22 | MrApathyCream | i knew there was something fishy about that school |
| 06:44:03 | captain_proton | sekn & DemonMoose are here to observe rcam :) |
| 06:44:13 | scanline | captain_proton: so you've managed to get some more people from around here hooked on bzflag and IRC? |
| 06:44:23 | captain_proton | scanline: they already played bzflag |
| 06:44:55 | scanline | are they also in Brackett? |
| 06:45:15 | sekn | scanline: you in Brackett? |
| 06:45:21 | scanline | sekn: I'm in Aden |
| 06:45:43 | captain_proton | scanline: they're in cockerell |
| 06:45:49 | sekn | picogui developer? |
| 06:46:11 | scanline | sekn: I wrote about 80% of picogui |
| 06:46:11 | MrApathyCream | Hmmmm next building over is Descott? |
| 06:46:23 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: nope - next one over is 'crosman' |
| 06:46:36 | MrApathyCream | two 'c's -- hardly seems fair |
| 06:46:46 | captain_proton | right |
| 06:47:10 | BZFlag | scanline: got the new ts working on the tux yet? |
| 06:48:16 | scanline | BZFlag: A little... I hacked up the driver a lot but haven't finished it |
| 06:48:21 | MrApathyCream | when are we getting the new computers & leased lines? |
| 06:48:24 | BZFlag | sweet. keep me posted. |
| 06:48:38 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: you mean from rcam? ;) |
| 06:48:38 | MrApathyCream | <reference to payoff statement> :P |
| 06:49:05 | scanline | BZFlag: will do. I did update buildroot to turn on some of the newer things on by default, like the dithering and stuff. Still need to get it using the new launcher, and actually building apps |
| 06:49:06 | MrApathyCream | maybe i can get lag < 500 |
| 06:50:01 | BZFlag | is getting 2 boxes up to the latest 1.7 to track down the segfault bug |
| 06:50:10 | MrApathyCream | (SR) bug? |
| 06:50:29 | BZFlag | I presume, though I can't get it to happen anymore. |
| 06:53:14 | MrApathyCream | i have sr on xmission right now |
| 06:55:53 | BZFlag | bzflag looks wild at 320x200 |
| 06:56:45 | BZFlag | MrApathyCream: I'll be on two: cause I can test lan play ther |
| 06:57:10 | BZFlag | er.. one:5050 ;-) |
| 06:58:06 | jpablo_kun | damn |
| 06:58:18 | jpablo_kun | we was playing one hour and a half. |
| 06:58:21 | jpablo_kun | just one game. |
| 06:58:28 | jpablo_kun | to 5 points. |
| 07:01:28 | jpablo | we ended 95-102 |
| 07:02:12 | captain_proton | heh |
| 07:04:04 | jpablo | btw: i loose :-( |
| 07:04:52 | jpablo | btw2: 1.7e5 worked great. |
| 07:37:40 | fontenot | cvs 1.7 has problems |
| 07:37:47 | fontenot | it's haning on me with 100% cpu |
| 07:37:48 | sekn | captain_proton! |
| 07:37:50 | fontenot | hanging |
| 07:38:53 | captain_proton | sekn! |
| 07:39:09 | sekn | captain_proton: you broke 1.7... |
| 07:39:09 | captain_proton | what j00 want boi? |
| 07:39:15 | captain_proton | sekn: i don't touch 1.7 cvs |
| 07:39:33 | sekn | oh :) rcam told me.... |
| 07:39:42 | captain_proton | hah |
| 07:42:21 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 07:43:53 | MrApathyCream | wow rikers server has 65505/8 for read team |
| 07:43:58 | MrApathyCream | one |
| 07:44:48 | MrApathyCream | er red, team |
| 07:45:50 | MrApathyCream | 65499, 0, 2, 1 |
| 07:46:17 | Pinguin | morning |
| 07:47:45 | | pinquin is a tubby, well-dressed gent that can't spell. |
| 07:47:45 | MrApathyCream | ibot, pinquin? |
| 07:49:54 | | A big fat guy, old enough to know not to stay up all nite playing, but does anyway. |
| 07:49:54 | scanline | ibot, MrApathyCream? |
| 07:50:00 | scanline | hehe |
| 07:51:05 | MrApathyCream | is jarred into reality by that last quip, and realizes it's 4am.... off to bed |
| 07:54:34 | | rumour has it scanline is a sometimes confused and usually insane embedded systems hacker with a 30-hour day or the original author of PicoGUI |
| 07:54:34 | Pinguin | ibot, scanline? |
| 07:55:46 | | ACTION explodes into a happy puff of smoke |
| 07:55:46 | scanline | ibot: explode! |
| 07:55:51 | sekn | scanline: ever seen PicoGui run on an Agenda VR3? |
| 07:55:57 | scanline | sekn: nope |
| 07:56:18 | scanline | sekn: I know it runs though |
| 08:04:49 | captain_proton | doooobeeedooooo |
| 08:05:50 | scanline | captain_proton: bored? |
| 08:05:56 | captain_proton | scanline: just a little |
| 08:06:03 | scanline | captain_proton: you ever play AD&D? |
| 08:06:16 | captain_proton | scanline: nope - did a little of the original tho |
| 08:06:38 | scanline | k |
| 08:06:57 | scanline | I've been playing it a little bit lately... still a newbie |
| 08:07:15 | captain_proton | wanna help me get libnet to compile? =} |
| 08:07:33 | scanline | gee.. but how can you be bored when you have a huge software project like bzflag to maintain? |
| 08:07:42 | captain_proton | hah |
| 08:07:42 | scanline | libnet eh? What's that for? |
| 08:07:51 | captain_proton | tryin' to install dsniff on this box |
| 08:07:57 | captain_proton | well, not -this- box |
| 08:07:58 | captain_proton | but a box |
| 08:08:05 | scanline | the one for that lab? |
| 08:08:15 | captain_proton | nope |
| 08:08:24 | captain_proton | a rootwars box |
| 08:08:32 | scanline | going to install a sniffer box in the steam tunnels? >:) |
| 08:08:32 | scanline | oh |
| 08:09:09 | captain_proton | i just need dsniff for the arpredirect program ]:) |
| 08:10:28 | captain_proton | maybe i'll just do it static |
| 08:15:20 | captain_proton | grr |
| 08:15:28 | captain_proton | now its refusing to compile on a -different- box |
| 08:15:47 | captain_proton | checking whether the C compiler (gcc ) works... no |
| 08:20:52 | BZFlag | scanline: hows AD&D coming? |
| 08:21:16 | BZFlag | I once had a 27th level fighter with a -24 AC. ;-) |
| 08:21:40 | scanline | BZFlag: I'm really new at it... we're not done playing our first game yet. I've got a level 1 Mage |
| 08:21:42 | BZFlag | entered him in a monty hall competition and he took second. |
| 08:21:59 | BZFlag | some demi-god player turned him into a sandwich. |
| 08:22:02 | scanline | BZFlag: A friend of mine got the 2nd edition books cheap so a few of us in the dorm are playing |
| 08:22:09 | scanline | hehe |
| 08:22:18 | BZFlag | there are pdf versions around now. |
| 08:22:37 | scanline | oh, that's coo. |
| 08:22:39 | scanline | err, cool |
| 08:22:54 | scanline | bangs on his enter key until it stops malfunctioning |
| 08:22:57 | BZFlag | I used to have player's handbook, dm guide, deities & demi-gods, mm1, mm2, relics, etc. |
| 08:23:31 | BZFlag | spent too much time playing. say 2-3 times a week for 4-5 hours a sitting. |
| 08:23:40 | BZFlag | now I hack on bzflag instead. ;-) |
| 08:23:44 | scanline | hehe |
| 08:24:14 | captain_proton | BZFlag: yet you don't integrate my patches! |
| 08:24:17 | captain_proton | sulks |
| 08:30:53 | captain_proton | argg |
| 08:30:59 | captain_proton | i'm gonna kill whoever wrote dsniff |
| 08:32:45 | captain_proton | oh well |
| 08:32:47 | captain_proton | i should get to bed |
| 08:33:06 | scanline | good night |
| 08:33:23 | captain_proton | i'll hax0r me up a MiM ssh attack tomorrow =) |
| 08:33:57 | captain_proton | 'night |
| 08:36:47 | T-34 | Hi tankers! |
| 08:39:07 | BZFlag | captain_proton: heh, working on tracking down the alleged crash. |
| 08:55:22 | fontenot | i got latest 1.7 cvs to hang on me with 100% cpu |
| 09:00:45 | fontenot | anyone know a player named icarus ? |
| 09:01:01 | fontenot | or . ? |
| 09:01:57 | fontenot | ot bubba ? |
| 09:02:17 | fontenot | bubba has an unbelievable kill ratio - like 10 to 1 |
| 09:33:20 | | rumour has it i am really stupid |
| 09:33:20 | Pinguin | ibot, ibot? |
| 09:34:05 | Pinguin | understands now (very late) the function of ibot ... shame on me ... |
| 09:34:08 | scanline | hehe.. it's fun to teach infobots tricks though |
| 09:34:25 | scanline | Though I think we have a little too much fun with PicoBot... |
| 09:34:52 | scanline | <scanline> status? |
| 09:34:52 | scanline | <PicoBot> Since Mon Apr 15 07:04:37 2002, there have been 51 modifications and 22 questions. I have been awake for 20 hours, 33 minutes, 20 seconds this session, and currently reference 3769 factoids. Addressing is in required mode. |
| 09:48:06 | | Since Sun Apr 14 03:23:53 2002, there have been 92 modifications and 238 questions. I have been awake for 2 days, 7 hours, 24 minutes, 13 seconds this session, and currently reference 5178 factoids. Addressing is in require mode. |
| 09:48:06 | BZFlag | ibot status |
| 09:48:26 | scanline | whoa.. last time I checked ibot it was at less than 3000 factoids |
| 09:48:55 | scanline | though most of the stuff in PicoBot's database is completely useless :) |
| 09:49:17 | | bugger all, i dunno, bzflag |
| 09:49:17 | BZFlag | ibot though most of the stuff in PicoBot's database? |
| 09:49:29 | BZFlag | heh. ibot's too. |
| 09:49:40 | | ACTION explodes into a happy puff of smoke |
| 09:49:40 | scanline | ibot: explode |
| 09:54:45 | Chestal | you guys talk too much |
| 09:54:55 | Chestal | how am I supposed to read through a 1300 line backlog each morning? |
| 09:55:15 | scanline | haha... you just assume nothing important happened and don't read it |
| 09:59:26 | fontenot | Chestal: only read the important lines |
| 09:59:34 | fontenot | saves time |
| 10:00:37 | fontenot | i need to go to grocery store but dont really feel like it |
| 10:05:52 | Chestal | if you peopel then would be so knd to mark important lines by using bold face or something? ;-) |
| 10:06:31 | scanline | This is an important line. No really, please read it! |
| 10:06:53 | scanline | must be chatty 'cause he's writing documentation... |
| 10:08:39 | fontenot | Chestal: that's a really good idea |
| 10:23:41 | vogon_jeltz | kills time while waiting for a response to his post on Xpert. |
| 10:24:22 | vogon_jeltz | so far, I've read Ars, CNN, and Slashdot, and I've already composed a bug report and sent it to Xpert. I'm like a geek on crack. |
| 10:25:11 | vogon_jeltz | looks accusingly at the box of Altoids he's half-finished in the past 2 days. |
| 10:25:38 | scanline | penguin mints! |
| 10:26:08 | vogon_jeltz | heh. just what I need, more caffeine. |
| 10:28:36 | vogon_jeltz | goes back to frobbing this keyboard modifier code in the bowels of BZFlag. |
| 10:28:59 | vogon_jeltz | this damn thing won't work. |
| 10:33:34 | vogon_jeltz | hmm. BzfDisplay::getEvent() isn't called from more than one thread at once, right? |
| 10:36:43 | vogon_jeltz | oh, geez, duh mistake. |
| 10:36:46 | vogon_jeltz | n/m; my bad. |
| 10:39:07 | vogon_jeltz | hmm. |
| 10:39:15 | vogon_jeltz | are there any mouse combos that require modifiers? |
| 10:39:22 | vogon_jeltz | or can I just comment that out for now? |
| 10:51:54 | vogon_jeltz | *screams at someone* gah. the whole modifier mask in the BzfEvent class is totally superfluous for key events! you figure out capitalization by the keysym! *smacks around Chris* |
| 10:53:08 | vogon_jeltz | tries to figure out how to do this without adding another LOC |
| 10:57:52 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZz |
| 11:50:42 | fontenot | i dont this Xpert has helped me ever |
| 11:50:47 | fontenot | think |
| 11:50:51 | vogon_jeltz | OK, that bug's squashed, at least for US/English keyboards. |
| 11:51:51 | vogon_jeltz | to wit: // this only works on American QWERTY keyboards; tough beans. |
| 11:51:57 | fontenot | when a bzflag server sets a max player score, what happens when someone reaches that score ? |
| 11:52:02 | vogon_jeltz | the game ends. |
| 11:52:19 | fontenot | how so? server restarts? kicks everyone off ? what ? |
| 11:52:28 | vogon_jeltz | yup. |
| 11:52:42 | vogon_jeltz | server restarts, kicks everyone off, and the clients show a "GAME OVER" message. |
| 11:52:52 | fontenot | intersting I wonder if there is an easy way to rotate maps when that happens |
| 11:53:03 | fontenot | ive never seen it happen |
| 11:53:24 | Chestal | noone is using that feature I guess |
| 11:53:40 | Chestal | it's not very useful for a regular server IMHO, same with timed games |
| 11:54:00 | fontenot | astercity has it set right now - to 150 |
| 11:54:02 | Chestal | it only makes sende if people meet at a certain date and wait for each other |
| 11:54:06 | fontenot | hadnt seen that before tonight |
| 11:54:12 | Chestal | hmm, 150 is a lot :-) |
| 11:54:19 | fontenot | well one guy is up to 135 |
| 11:54:29 | vogon_jeltz | so, does anyone want me to commit the SDL code? |
| 11:54:35 | vogon_jeltz | without res switching and all that foobar? |
| 11:54:40 | Chestal | wehen he reaches 150, everyone will die and server is in 'game over' mode until everyone leaves |
| 11:54:44 | fontenot | vogon_jeltz: I think lots of ppl do |
| 11:54:51 | Chestal | vogon: 1.8 or 1.7? |
| 11:54:53 | fontenot | Chestal: interesting |
| 11:54:56 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: 1.8. |
| 11:55:22 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: and on that note, in the regular 1.8 renderers, are the eighth-dimension nodes drawn yet? |
| 11:55:47 | Chestal | vogon_jeltz: what are 9th-dimensin nodes? I know vritually nothing about the rendering stuff |
| 11:55:48 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: I'd check myself, but I've wonked up the build process in my tree for SDL support. |
| 11:56:01 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: 8th-dimension nodes are the things you see when you're OO'ed inside a building. |
| 11:56:10 | Chestal | vogon_jeltz: ah, I don't think they are drawn |
| 11:56:21 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: good. thought that was my bug for a few seconds. :) |
| 11:57:15 | vogon_jeltz | the SDL code is fully functional except for the fact that it only runs at 1024x768x32 and requires some build mumbo-jumbo. |
| 11:57:21 | vogon_jeltz | and it only works on Unix. |
| 11:57:43 | vogon_jeltz | and it doesn't run windowed. |
| 11:58:32 | vogon_jeltz | it's very, very, *very* alpha. :P |
| 11:59:14 | vogon_jeltz | oh, and bzgview doesn't work right. |
| 12:01:55 | vogon_jeltz | hmm, interesting. |
| 12:02:21 | vogon_jeltz | it works in a window and in different geometries if you specify the -geometry option, just no in-game res switching. :P |
| 12:05:13 | vogon_jeltz | oh, and I'm not sure whether the joystick code works. |
| 12:06:34 | vogon_jeltz | other than that... ;) |
| 12:09:42 | vogon_jeltz | *updates the tree, hopes nothing breaks* |
| 12:11:38 | vogon_jeltz | grumble. |
| 12:11:49 | vogon_jeltz | how do I create a diff that includes files that I've created? |
| 12:22:53 | fontenot | arg |
| 12:23:05 | fontenot | someone got to 150, but I guess not everyone disconnected |
| 12:23:18 | fontenot | so the server is not letting em on - says game is over or full (shows 0 playyers) |
| 12:25:32 | Chestal | well, peopel will leave, they cannot play, just talk now |
| 12:25:57 | Chestal | vogon: hmm, good questiohn. just using cvs diff -u doesnot? |
| 12:27:59 | vogon_jeltz | nope. |
| 13:06:26 | vogon_jeltz | any decent 1.8 servers out there? |
| 13:06:33 | vogon_jeltz | besides ducati? |
| 13:09:42 | vogon_jeltz | I don't want anyone working on this SDL code until I give it some more work, mm-kay? |
| 13:10:22 | tad_ | lol |
| 13:11:26 | tad_ | are you going to put in the code 1.8 to be a le to see whos on the server? |
| 13:11:51 | vogon_jeltz | *grr* |
| 13:12:40 | vogon_jeltz | there. |
| 13:12:49 | tad_ | lol |
| 13:31:51 | Pinguin | all: is there something like a "spectator" code for the servers? |
| 13:32:24 | Pinguin | to watch a running game, but not as a tank, but as a "bird" ... ??? |
| 13:32:57 | vogon_jeltz | no, not in the official tree. |
| 13:35:27 | Pinguin | some code to "sniff" the messages that run over each's players HUD? |
| 13:35:59 | vogon_jeltz | uhm, not currently. that's pretty much what it'd come down to, though. |
| 13:53:06 | vogon_jeltz | tack whatever onto the end, but there's not much room. |
| 14:13:40 | vogon_jeltz | "More than anything else, this code was released to get Captain Proton off my ass and to provide a backup storage place in case my hard drives die tomorrow." |
| 14:47:56 | captain_proton | w00t! |
| 14:48:17 | vogon_jeltz | you w00ting about TEH POWAR FO SDL? |
| 14:48:30 | captain_proton | yep |
| 14:48:38 | vogon_jeltz | why, thank you. |
| 14:48:43 | sekn | is killed trying to read vogon_jeltz 's typing... |
| 14:48:46 | vogon_jeltz | it's not anywhere close to being trunk-worthy. |
| 14:49:11 | vogon_jeltz | sekn: I'm very sleepy, and each time I channel JeffK, I wake up a little bit. |
| 14:49:31 | vogon_jeltz | I've been up for 31 hours on 4 hours of sleep. |
| 14:49:36 | captain_proton | gotta go to class |
| 14:49:38 | captain_proton | see yas |
| 14:49:40 | vogon_jeltz | cya. |
| 14:50:23 | vogon_jeltz | oh, and cappy, before you wet yourself, I'm not letting anyone touch the code until I've fixed it up a bit. |
| 14:50:30 | sekn | j/k I can read it just fine :) |
| 14:50:46 | vogon_jeltz | sekn: OK. :) |
| 14:56:24 | fontenot | damn this game is too addictive |
| 14:56:30 | fontenot | it's as bad as evercrack |
| 14:57:18 | fontenot | there aughta be someone I can sue about that |
| 14:57:35 | vogon_jeltz | sue tim. |
| 14:57:44 | vogon_jeltz | or Chris. |
| 15:00:45 | fontenot | who has the most money? |
| 15:01:06 | fontenot | maybe we can get bzflag declared as a drug |
| 15:01:43 | Chestal | join the ABZA |
| 15:01:53 | fontenot | heh where do I sign? |
| 15:02:04 | fontenot | i need BZA |
| 15:02:08 | fontenot | bzflag anonymous |
| 15:02:17 | fontenot | i need a 12 step program |
| 15:02:57 | Chestal | is there a life after bz? |
| 15:04:35 | fontenot | does anyone really want to find out? |
| 15:08:25 | fontenot | you know there is a lot of violence in bzflag |
| 15:08:36 | fontenot | it kinda makes me want to steal a tank and go around blowing things up |
| 15:55:48 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 15:55:52 | captain_proton | where is rcam? |
| 15:56:04 | captain_proton | i want to know if he's fixed the network incompadibilidy |
| 15:56:16 | Chestal | I'd doubt that |
| 15:56:22 | captain_proton | =) |
| 15:56:46 | Chestal | I could continue to get my patches up on sf |
| 15:57:09 | Chestal | I finally finished evaluating the written exams |
| 15:57:34 | Chestal | hmm, more and more information is put into /lagstats output |
| 15:57:47 | Chestal | IMHO it should be removed and put into a seperate admin command |
| 15:58:03 | Chestal | it's no good that every player can see IP of other players |
| 15:58:22 | Chestal | on another note: I got a challenge from the froot loops |
| 15:58:36 | Chestal | anybody seen Valoche yet? |
| 15:58:39 | captain_proton | nope |
| 15:58:43 | captain_proton | i agree about lagstats |
| 15:58:47 | captain_proton | its getting awfully cluttered |
| 15:59:06 | Chestal | my lagping patch replaces the output anyway :-) |
| 16:40:52 | captain_proton | just got a frightening idea for a piece of music |
| 16:41:03 | captain_proton | cantata for cello, tambourine and kazoo |
| 16:42:12 | Chestal | hmm, what's a kazoo? |
| 16:42:33 | captain_proton | ibot, search google for kazoo |
| 16:42:34 | | captain_proton: Google can't find kazoo |
| 16:42:37 | captain_proton | grr |
| 16:42:43 | vogon_jeltz | this "musical instrument" that you hum into and make annoying noises with. |
| 16:44:18 | captain_proton | pretty much |
| 16:45:28 | BZFlag | Chestal: re lagstats: good idea. patches welcome. ;-) |
| 16:46:06 | Chestal | bzflag: it's integrated into my lagping patch, submitting it right now |
| 16:49:19 | BZFlag | ok. |
| 17:39:05 | vogon_jeltz | grumbles at oblomov's constant requests for worthless improvements. |
| 17:39:46 | captain_proton | too |
| 17:40:09 | vogon_jeltz | this is like the third time he's asked for something completely moronic. |
| 17:40:19 | vogon_jeltz | I think we need to have feature-bitch quotas. |
| 17:40:21 | Chestal | hmm, this steamroller-only is quite pointless |
| 17:40:26 | Pinguin | is leaving ... bye |
| 17:40:35 | vogon_jeltz | every time you submit a patch, you get to request one small feature. |
| 17:40:53 | vogon_jeltz | if you are the major contributor to a new rev, you get to request one big one. |
| 17:41:07 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: sounds good to me |
| 17:41:27 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: only 'cause you and chestal would get all of the big features. ;) |
| 17:41:33 | captain_proton | hah! |
| 17:41:53 | Chestal | a small feature would be enough for me if and only if it would be guaranteed |
| 17:41:54 | captain_proton | is thinking of starting to write some l33t karma network stuff |
| 17:42:08 | Chestal | would wish to eliminate jumping, hehe |
| 17:42:12 | jp_zZZz | he people, we is the league going to start tournaments ? |
| 17:42:37 | Chestal | jp: as soon as we have figured out some details and implemented them on the web pages |
| 17:42:38 | captain_proton | Chestal: just don't use -j ;) |
| 17:43:04 | jpablo | -j is a source of bad players. |
| 17:43:25 | Chestal | jp: we are currently doign some test matches, you can, too. Only problem is that you would have to talk with another team manually and agree on a date/tie |
| 17:44:15 | Chestal | hmm, about blockign bad callsigns, what should go in? disallow non-printable characters for sure |
| 17:44:18 | Chestal | anything else? |
| 17:44:34 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: blocking more than one consecutive character of whitespace. |
| 17:44:35 | jpablo | i see, i'll look for some one who want to be kicked by the great Mty LUG. |
| 17:44:47 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 17:45:01 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: we got a fuckwit on one of the servers who stuck like 30 spaces at the end of his name. |
| 17:45:06 | captain_proton | we really need some sort of completion character in the message buffer |
| 17:45:35 | vogon_jeltz | I need either a better way to implement character shifting or internationalization support for it. |
| 17:45:46 | Chestal | vogon: yes, I thought about that, too. but just rejecting a player becuasde of 2 spaces is a problem IMHO. We do not have a decent error message for this |
| 17:45:50 | vogon_jeltz | stupid SDL doesn't return case-sensitive keysyms. |
| 17:45:55 | Chestal | maybe we shoudl add more reject types for e6 |
| 17:46:04 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: either that, or compress the whitespace down to one char. |
| 17:46:26 | Chestal | tab-completion for callsigns would also be nice |
| 17:46:33 | Chestal | or maybe a kick by slot number |
| 17:46:45 | captain_proton | kick by player ID |
| 17:46:46 | Chestal | captain: reworked the ban patch to use Alist already? :-) |
| 17:46:46 | vogon_jeltz | *nod* |
| 17:46:54 | captain_proton | haha Chestal |
| 17:46:54 | captain_proton | no |
| 17:47:05 | Chestal | captain_proton: me neither, and I don't really want to |
| 17:47:09 | Chestal | but I want bans to be in e6 |
| 17:47:26 | vogon_jeltz | I feel like posting "The Rules of BZFlag Feature Bitching Fight Club" to the forums. |
| 17:47:30 | captain_proton | i don't really know AList |
| 17:47:47 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: do |
| 17:47:47 | Chestal | I have no clue how it works |
| 17:47:53 | captain_proton | apathy is good with it |
| 17:48:29 | Chestal | I think we found a volunteer :-) |
| 17:48:34 | Chestal | where is he? |
| 17:48:39 | captain_proton | no clue |
| 17:49:08 | Chestal | I'm curious whether the new lagstats will give different results for 56kers |
| 17:49:26 | Chestal | client side throttling would need some means to configure it |
| 17:49:42 | Chestal | I'll work on the red/green ctf patch now |
| 17:49:50 | captain_proton | make it red/blue ? ;) |
| 17:50:07 | Chestal | huh? :-) |
| 17:50:22 | captain_proton | actually this would be cool: allow specification of which two teams it uses ;) |
| 17:50:50 | Chestal | hmm, what about base positions? |
| 17:50:57 | captain_proton | still either side |
| 17:51:01 | captain_proton | (opposite) |
| 17:51:15 | Chestal | the colours could be deduced from the -mp specs |
| 17:51:34 | Chestal | what is someone tries to use it with -mp 2,2,2,2,2 or something like that? |
| 17:51:39 | Chestal | doesn't make sense, does it? |
| 17:51:55 | Chestal | can their be rogues in CTF? |
| 17:52:54 | captain_proton | or the game option could take in two teams (via some sort of intuitive command line option) |
| 17:53:04 | captain_proton | and it would automatically set the max players stuff |
| 17:54:48 | Chestal | hmm, I'm currently using -2 |
| 17:57:36 | Chestal | -C rg ? |
| 17:58:03 | Chestal | does anybody really need other colours? |
| 17:58:22 | sekn | captain_proton: want to see Pi tomorrow at 21:30? |
| 17:58:41 | Chestal | Aronofsky's Pi? |
| 17:58:58 | sekn | ya, Aronofsky's |
| 17:59:31 | sekn | There's a showing in full Dolby on a pretty large screen here on campus |
| 17:59:34 | vogon_jeltz | http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=667636&forum_id=9555 |
| 18:01:06 | captain_proton | sekn: kinda busy |
| 18:01:18 | captain_proton | sekn: we'll see how it works out |
| 18:01:33 | captain_proton | Chestal: i like blue :) |
| 18:02:08 | Chestal | captain: feel free to add it to my patch then :-) |
| 18:03:16 | captain_proton | Nifty-Neato New Feature X |
| 18:03:19 | captain_proton | I like it |
| 18:03:43 | vogon_jeltz | we need to add a no-op switch -nnnfx. |
| 18:03:49 | captain_proton | nnnfx? |
| 18:03:57 | vogon_jeltz | Nifty-Neato New Feature X. |
| 18:04:00 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 18:04:55 | captain_proton | harro BZFlag |
| 18:05:30 | vogon_jeltz | you must all use the SDL renderer from this point forward if you use Linux! muwahahah. |
| 18:05:44 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: get it working and I will ;) |
| 18:05:52 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: hey, it works, but not well. |
| 18:06:07 | BZFlag | harro? you have an asian accent today? |
| 18:06:31 | captain_proton | BZFlag: no |
| 18:06:44 | captain_proton | goes to try out TEH POWAR |
| 18:07:04 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: start it with -geometry fullscreen if you want to see TEH POWAR at 1600x1200. |
| 18:07:43 | captain_proton | coo |
| 18:08:02 | vogon_jeltz | I need to implement in-game resolution management, though. |
| 18:08:26 | vogon_jeltz | then you can see TEH POWAR at all different color depths |
| 18:08:38 | captain_proton | ooo |
| 18:08:54 | captain_proton | it could also run in wacky resolutions |
| 18:08:59 | captain_proton | like 480x640 =) |
| 18:09:01 | vogon_jeltz | like 320x240! |
| 18:11:18 | captain_proton | make[3]: *** No rule to make target `Make-sdl'. Stop. |
| 18:11:26 | vogon_jeltz | *grumble* |
| 18:12:11 | vogon_jeltz | did you capitalize "MCONFIG=SDL"? |
| 18:12:20 | captain_proton | no |
| 18:12:23 | captain_proton | grins |
| 18:12:30 | vogon_jeltz | see? ;) |
| 18:12:32 | scanline | is back (gone 07:14:41) |
| 18:12:47 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: its not robust ;) |
| 18:13:05 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: does the phrase "mindblowingly pre-alpha" ring a bell? ;) |
| 18:13:15 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: nope |
| 18:13:19 | vogon_jeltz | heh. |
| 18:13:44 | vogon_jeltz | "It's currently mindblowingly pre-alpha..." |
| 18:14:01 | vogon_jeltz | "...definitely not ready for public consumption." |
| 18:15:57 | captain_proton | 1) -geometry fullscreen goes to a different resolution |
| 18:16:13 | captain_proton | 2) my FPS is 50% improved =) |
| 18:16:18 | vogon_jeltz | heh. |
| 18:16:41 | vogon_jeltz | OK, then it doesn't hit anything above 1024x768. ;) |
| 18:18:34 | captain_proton | hah |
| 18:18:53 | vogon_jeltz | you learn something new every day. ;) |
| 18:19:04 | captain_proton | yesterday i learned that i don't know linux |
| 18:19:13 | vogon_jeltz | how so? |
| 18:19:24 | captain_proton | someone on AO who was versioning everyone |
| 18:19:35 | vogon_jeltz | and saw your fake mIRC tag? |
| 18:19:47 | captain_proton | <captain_proton> <cf> no. i don't think im the only who knows linux :P |
| 18:19:50 | captain_proton | <cf> but, obviusly.. evil dont :P |
| 18:20:00 | captain_proton | when told that you can change the VERSION |
| 18:20:05 | captain_proton | <cf> evil_enchilada: you dont know crap about mirc scripting :P |
| 18:20:11 | captain_proton | <cf> so you dont know how to chang it |
| 18:20:14 | captain_proton | <evil_enchilada> cf: probably because I don't run mIRC |
| 18:20:17 | captain_proton | <cf> oh, btw, you could do another reply, but, for hex it, needs a couples of dlls |
| 18:20:19 | captain_proton | <cf> dat, you dont have |
| 18:20:33 | vogon_jeltz | and he doesn't have a grasp on the obvious. |
| 18:20:38 | captain_proton | uhhuh |
| 18:20:52 | captain_proton | he left before i could have any real fun with him |
| 18:21:31 | captain_proton | he's right about 2 things |
| 18:21:38 | captain_proton | 1) i know crap about mirc scripting |
| 18:21:44 | captain_proton | 2) i don't have a couples of dlls |
| 18:22:45 | captain_proton | =) |
| 18:22:54 | captain_proton | i need a good skiddie |
| 18:23:53 | Chestal | damn, I postet my patch in the bugs section |
| 18:24:02 | captain_proton | whoops |
| 18:24:04 | vogon_jeltz | YOU MORON! |
| 18:24:05 | vogon_jeltz | ;) |
| 18:24:31 | Chestal | hmm, I suppose I cannot delete it? |
| 18:24:32 | captain_proton | considers coding up an STL-style digraph class |
| 18:24:57 | captain_proton | Chestal: i'll delete it |
| 18:26:50 | BZFlag | don't |
| 18:26:55 | captain_proton | um |
| 18:26:59 | BZFlag | you can move an entry from one place to another. |
| 18:27:03 | captain_proton | too late |
| 18:28:11 | Chestal | You Attempted To Double-submit this item. Please avoid double-clicking. |
| 18:28:17 | Chestal | when I submit it to patches section now |
| 18:28:51 | Chestal | so it seems the other one is still alive somewhere? I used the exist same summary string |
| 18:29:31 | Chestal | hmm, the omission of this mode could actually be considered a bug ;-) |
| 18:29:39 | captain_proton | Chestal: it was still alive |
| 18:29:43 | captain_proton | Chestal: i changed the status to pending |
| 18:30:13 | Chestal | so, can you move it over? |
| 18:30:19 | Chestal | uiui, lot of mails |
| 18:30:27 | captain_proton | i don't know how to move stuff |
| 18:30:33 | captain_proton | wails BZFlag!! |
| 18:31:16 | vogon_jeltz | Chestal: sweet. that feature sounds mucho cool. |
| 18:31:46 | Chestal | all my patches are mucho cool |
| 18:31:55 | BZFlag | ok, where is it now |
| 18:32:13 | Chestal | I suppose still in the bugs section, don't know what proton did to it |
| 18:32:40 | captain_proton | BZFlag: bugs, status is 'pending' |
| 18:32:51 | BZFlag | better? |
| 18:33:08 | Chestal | much :-) |
| 18:33:12 | captain_proton | how did you do taht? |
| 18:33:21 | BZFlag | I'm magic |
| 18:33:23 | captain_proton | oh |
| 18:33:24 | captain_proton | data type |
| 18:33:26 | captain_proton | kicks himself |
| 18:35:10 | Chestal | oh my, I need food, I'm doing silly things |
| 18:35:49 | Chestal | hmm, strange, it worked. hmm |
| 18:46:17 | captain_proton | if we're implementing an advogato-style karma system, what certificate levels do we want? |
| 18:46:57 | Chestal | hmm, what are certificate levels? |
| 18:47:08 | Chestal | maybe I should read about it |
| 18:47:24 | captain_proton | they have 4: none, apprentice, journeyer, and master |
| 18:47:53 | vogon_jeltz | none, navigator, gunner, driver. |
| 18:47:59 | captain_proton | haha |
| 18:48:15 | vogon_jeltz | or navigator, gunner, driver, commander. |
| 18:48:35 | captain_proton | we could have more than 4 |
| 18:48:48 | vogon_jeltz | do we need them? ;) |
| 18:49:17 | captain_proton | i'm not even sure we should use their certification system |
| 18:49:24 | captain_proton | i like their trust metric |
| 18:49:48 | captain_proton | but i don't know that we need to partition it all aside from distance in the graph |
| 18:51:43 | vogon_jeltz | I personally like the Slash karmic system for its simplicity. |
| 18:52:20 | captain_proton | that system isn't resistant to attack at all |
| 18:52:40 | vogon_jeltz | *shrug* |
| 18:54:43 | captain_proton | i'm thinking it should be a directed graph |
| 18:55:05 | captain_proton | with weighted edges between nodes for each karma adjustment |
| 18:55:21 | captain_proton | the shorter the distance to the node, the higher its karma |
| 18:58:52 | captain_proton | BZFlag: i'm gonna start on this karma stuff but i think (for obvious reasons) i'll keep the copyright for now ;) |
| 19:00:55 | Chestal | hmm, this ctf-flag-inside-building-bug is annoying |
| 19:08:46 | Chestal | someone care to join ducato 59100 for a quick test? |
| 19:09:02 | vogon_jeltz | 59100, or 5910? |
| 19:09:13 | Chestal | 59100 |
| 19:10:01 | vogon_jeltz | gah, 1.7? are you living in the past, dude? |
| 19:16:38 | scanline | is away: buying a new switch and some mountain dew |
| 19:18:38 | captain_proton | haha vogon_jeltz |
| 19:19:33 | jp_out | Chestal: your two teams ctf patch r0cks my world. |
| 19:20:09 | Chestal | yes, noone was playing ctf before which was a shame |
| 19:20:42 | jpablo | we used to play ctf here, but the default world was really ugly. |
| 19:21:02 | jpablo | but now :-) |
| 19:21:09 | captain_proton | ballpark CTF was fun |
| 19:21:18 | Chestal | I sometimes tried to play CTF on some server with the default world and jumping enabled, but it was silly. You had virtualyl no chance of stopping a tank once it had grabbed your flag |
| 19:23:07 | jpablo | yeah. |
| 19:32:56 | TLZAjax | anyone there |
| 19:37:44 | Chestal | hmm, somethign is wrong with rejecting players |
| 19:39:08 | captain_proton | watches two rebuild because of karma.txt |
| 19:41:32 | Chestal | wow, a change to the robot code |
| 19:42:11 | vogon_jeltz | I should probably work on that stuff once I'm done with the SDL stuff. |
| 19:42:15 | vogon_jeltz | and the OpenAL/Ogg stuff. |
| 19:42:26 | Chestal | someone try to join ducati 59100 please |
| 19:42:36 | Chestal | you should be rejected cause it's full |
| 19:42:45 | captain_proton | goes off to demonstrate some code |
| 19:46:55 | BZFlag | captain_proton: feel free to hack up the karma system. |
| 19:47:03 | BZFlag | note that karma != playing skill. |
| 19:47:27 | BZFlag | karma == trust only. |
| 19:48:04 | BZFlag | there will likely be other things like game ladders and clan membership listed with your id. |
| 19:48:13 | BZFlag | your id == your email address. |
| 19:49:01 | BZFlag | with a key associated with it. I presume we will likely have the ability to have multiple nicks registered to one id. |
| 19:49:31 | BZFlag | as well as one (or more?) clan memberships. |
| 19:50:26 | BZFlag | there should be clan "colors" (ie: texture maps) that only clan members can wear. |
| 19:50:53 | BZFlag | probably want that shown in text someplace as well for non-textured players. |
| 19:51:30 | BZFlag | a sole member of a "team" or a server admin can assign/require a clan membership for a team. |
| 19:51:59 | BZFlag | if done my a team member, it expires when the last team member leaves. |
| 19:52:22 | Chestal | sounds good |
| 19:52:37 | BZFlag | probably want to be able to vote off clan reservation so a one member clan can't squat on a team color |
| 19:52:43 | Chestal | but I guess proton will start by working on the karma calculation algorithm |
| 19:53:12 | BZFlag | agreed. karma and ladder should be different calculations. |
| 19:53:29 | Chestal | someone please try to join ducati 59100, you should get rejected |
| 19:53:38 | BZFlag | I would think that ladder should have some impact on karma, but perhaps that should be handled outside the karma server. |
| 19:54:02 | BZFlag | so that the karma system could be reused for other games. |
| 19:54:09 | Chestal | I don't know whether ladder should be integrated into bzfls, hmm |
| 19:54:35 | Chestal | I guess we can decide that once we have th ebasic system working |
| 19:55:03 | Chestal | where are my bots when I need them |
| 19:55:12 | BZFlag | yes. I'm thinking kerberos (or a similar system) for the authentication aspect. |
| 19:55:33 | BZFlag | though it would be completely integrated so as to be invisible to the player. |
| 19:57:30 | BZFlag | I'd also like to see and https interface to the karma server. perhaps issuing client keys too. |
| 19:58:13 | Chestal | waaah, my bot executable did not work, it opened a regular bz window, but I couldn't type anything, so X server was blocked. I changed to other console and killed bzflag, then my primary X server crashed, gngngn |
| 19:58:33 | Chestal | is away reopening 100 windows on their correct places |
| 19:58:34 | BZFlag | then players could login over the web and get a better view (well different anyway) as to who has ranked them, who they have ranked and the ranking they gave, thier current rank, the top ranked people, etc. |
| 19:58:53 | nuum | yo |
| 19:59:08 | Chestal | hi nuum |
| 19:59:18 | Chestal | bzflag: sounds nice, but also like a lot of work :-) |
| 19:59:21 | nuum | good day chestal |
| 19:59:53 | nuum | how come pics don't show up on bzflag ctf league? |
| 19:59:55 | BZFlag | Chestal: it's just important to have the future uses in mind when building the ground work. |
| 20:00:06 | nuum | thats proper design! |
| 20:00:13 | BZFlag | I expect the initial system will just to nick authentication. ;-) |
| 20:00:31 | BZFlag | s/ to / do / |
| 20:00:38 | Chestal | nuum: what pics? |
| 20:00:56 | nuum | sorry, i'm retarded |
| 20:01:00 | nuum | you will have to excuse me |
| 20:01:20 | nuum | sorry for the fluff chestal |
| 20:01:54 | Chestal | nuum: could you join ducati 59100 please? |
| 20:02:10 | nuum | with which client? |
| 20:02:22 | Chestal | some 1.7 client |
| 20:02:42 | nuum | i erased flag! no more addiction |
| 20:02:46 | nuum | but i will get one |
| 20:02:55 | Chestal | :-) |
| 20:03:03 | nuum | how to check out from cvs? |
| 20:03:15 | nuum | one day i'll learn cvs commands |
| 20:03:34 | Chestal | it tells you on https://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=3248 |
| 20:04:19 | nuum | whats the dir? sourceforge.net:/bzflag? |
| 20:04:55 | Chestal | -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag for anon access |
| 20:05:01 | Chestal | modulename is bzflag |
| 20:05:12 | nuum | and how to get 1_7? |
| 20:05:25 | Chestal | ah, co -r 1_7 I guess |
| 20:05:31 | nuum | got that |
| 20:06:00 | nuum | cvs [server aborted]: Numeric tag 1_7 contains characters other than digits |
| 20:06:15 | BZFlag | or -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag |
| 20:06:16 | Chestal | v1_7 ? |
| 20:06:26 | nuum | ah yes |
| 20:06:28 | nuum | good show |
| 20:06:41 | nuum | ok gimme half a sec to compile |
| 20:06:54 | BZFlag | wow, a 1/2 second to compile. ;-) |
| 20:06:55 | Chestal | over |
| 20:06:56 | | peachy |
| 20:06:56 | nuum | ibot, how are you? |
| 20:07:16 | nuum | well, 30s |
| 20:07:34 | Chestal | this silly bug is stopping me from doing further patches, grr |
| 20:07:39 | nuum | 1.8 takes considerably longer |
| 20:08:13 | Chestal | just be sure to rm -rf it after our test |
| 20:08:22 | BZFlag | Chestal: which bug? |
| 20:09:00 | Chestal | BZFlag: I was about to test my observer patch. With a full server I experienced 'error downloading world database' instead of the correct reject message |
| 20:09:05 | nuum | um |
| 20:09:09 | nuum | i was on in flag |
| 20:09:18 | Chestal | don't know if it's the fault of my patch, so I'm testitn with plain CVS code now |
| 20:09:20 | nuum | port 59100 |
| 20:09:31 | Chestal | please go there again and stay for a minute |
| 20:09:31 | nuum | you want me just to stick around on there or what? |
| 20:10:12 | Chestal | hmm, it's indeed broken |
| 20:10:26 | Chestal | bzfquery.pl also just sits there, strange |
| 20:10:40 | Chestal | heh, that's a good idea, so I can test it myself easily |
| 20:10:43 | Chestal | nuum: thanks for now |
| 20:10:55 | tad_ | see my new bzfquery? |
| 20:11:00 | tad_ | .for dos? |
| 20:11:09 | tad_ | its a standalone program |
| 20:11:11 | tad_ | http://heckamangroup.com/files/ |
| 20:12:08 | BZFlag | Chestal: I expect it's not your code. I was getting it last night too. |
| 20:12:41 | Chestal | trying to debug it now |
| 20:13:04 | Chestal | oh my lagping patch has a little bug |
| 20:13:37 | BZFlag | tad_: did you use any exiting source? If so, that code is under GPL. please post the source as well. |
| 20:13:44 | BZFlag | er existing. |
| 20:13:48 | nuum | man flag just segfaulted |
| 20:14:11 | Chestal | uh? still on my server? |
| 20:14:14 | nuum | yeah |
| 20:14:30 | Chestal | I restarted in several times :-) |
| 20:14:42 | nuum | this breaks my flag! |
| 20:15:21 | nuum | my processor usage is through the roof on this game, maybe you guys could add a sleep here or there? |
| 20:15:50 | nuum | anyway, good day to you, i'm out |
| 20:16:10 | Chestal | hmm, this is strange |
| 20:21:05 | Chestal | hmmph, bzflag keeps killing my x server on exit, it didn't use to do that |
| 20:26:46 | scanline | is back (gone 01:10:08) |
| 20:31:31 | captain_proton | so BZFlag - i assume this means the rcam people aren't gonna write the karma system for us? ;) |
| 20:46:09 | Chestal | some please try to join ducati 59100 |
| 21:01:45 | tad_ | oh sorry |
| 21:02:08 | tad_ | will upload the code... |
| 21:02:42 | Chestal | which code? |
| 21:02:57 | tad_ | the bzfquery |
| 21:02:58 | tad_ | code |
| 21:03:09 | Chestal | ah |
| 21:03:12 | tad_ | ok its up there |
| 21:03:40 | tad_ | can anyone try it for me? |
| 21:04:09 | tad_ | see if it works on there system? |
| 21:04:35 | Chestal | do we really need those TIMELIMIT ifdefs? |
| 21:04:43 | Chestal | no DOS/WIN here |
| 21:04:48 | tad_ | ok |
| 21:05:09 | tad_ | has a message at the end of it |
| 21:05:22 | tad_ | its a demo compiling software |
| 21:05:30 | tad_ | :( |
| 21:08:24 | tad_ | read the txt file on there ;) |
| 21:09:38 | | tad_: i'm not following you... |
| 21:09:38 | tad_ | ibot disclaimer |
| 21:40:36 | almogaver | hi |
| 21:40:40 | crs23 | hey |
| 21:41:54 | vogon_jeltz | hey, chris. |
| 21:42:12 | crs23 | hi, colin. how's it going? |
| 21:42:17 | vogon_jeltz | OK, I guess. |
| 21:42:23 | vogon_jeltz | I finally got around to packaging up the SDL code. |
| 21:42:41 | crs23 | ah! did you get the resolution stuff working? |
| 21:42:45 | vogon_jeltz | nah, not yet. |
| 21:42:48 | crs23 | oh well |
| 21:42:50 | vogon_jeltz | it's not ready for public consumption. |
| 21:43:04 | vogon_jeltz | it's up if you wanna take a look at it, though. |
| 21:43:46 | crs23 | is there a particular version of SDL required? looks like i've got 1.1.4. |
| 21:43:57 | vogon_jeltz | 1.2.3 is what I use. |
| 21:44:21 | crs23 | k |
| 21:44:23 | vogon_jeltz | I might switch the font code away from using bitmaps to using SDL_ttf. |
| 21:44:50 | arathorn | hi all |
| 21:44:59 | T-34 | Hi tankers! |
| 21:45:02 | crs23 | hmm... guess that makes sense |
| 21:45:11 | vogon_jeltz | have it render the fonts to a surface, then grab the pixels, shove them into a texture, and put them on the polygons as usual. |
| 21:45:30 | T-34 | Almo, Ara I'm out; need a long sleep |
| 21:45:30 | vogon_jeltz | because blitting them is oodles slower than OpenGL. |
| 21:45:38 | T-34 | Bye all |
| 21:45:42 | vogon_jeltz | cya. |
| 21:45:44 | arathorn | ok t -34 cya tomorow |
| 21:45:52 | crs23 | gotcha. sounds good. |
| 21:45:53 | almogaver | hi arathorn, t-34 |
| 22:05:20 | BZFlag | crs23: hey. |
| 22:05:23 | crs23 | hey tim |
| 22:05:29 | BZFlag | I'll chat in a bit... |
| 22:05:32 | crs23 | k |
| 22:09:28 | nuum | hola |
| 22:09:43 | crs23 | hi |
| 22:10:18 | nuum | how is development on bzflag? |
| 22:11:04 | crs23 | what do you mean? |
| 22:11:31 | nuum | progressing today? |
| 22:12:47 | crs23 | making some progress. i'm generalizing geometric intersection calculations on the server. |
| 22:15:13 | vogon_jeltz | *grumble* must find better GTK theme. brb. |
| 22:15:32 | nuum | for collision detection and the such? |
| 22:15:47 | BZFlag | ok, here. reading the logs |
| 22:16:03 | crs23 | at some point. right now just for positioning flags. |
| 22:17:03 | nuum | i think bzflag should get some better flags. i'm thinking little orbs, or possibly some switch to indicate what a flag is without identify |
| 22:17:54 | crs23 | ack, no! not knowing what the flag is is important to gameplay. |
| 22:18:06 | crs23 | however, different geometry for flags would be fine |
| 22:18:57 | nuum | yeah, i'm talking you gotta be close to properly identify them |
| 22:19:07 | DemonMoose | crs! |
| 22:19:08 | crs23 | that is, the same geometry for all flags, just different from the current. that's easy to do, just modify flag.bzg. |
| 22:19:38 | nuum | proton = = demonmoose? no way, cuz i can easily beat the moose |
| 22:19:42 | proton-elsewhere | nuum: not usually |
| 22:19:48 | proton-elsewhere | nuum: i'm just over at his place |
| 22:19:55 | crs23 | hmm, that's interesting, nuum. still doable using only geometry if the LOD node works right (i've never tested it) |
| 22:19:56 | BZFlag | finishes reading. |
| 22:20:13 | nuum | LOD? |
| 22:20:19 | BZFlag | imho it would be nice with identify if all the flags got the GM etc labels on them. |
| 22:20:21 | nuum | legion of doom? |
| 22:20:34 | proton-elsewhere | nuum: level of detail |
| 22:20:43 | proton-elsewhere | GM etc labels? |
| 22:20:48 | BZFlag | crs23: have you followed the rcam saga? |
| 22:20:57 | crs23 | sorta floating over the flags, BZFlag. |
| 22:20:59 | nuum | right on the flag you mean, instead of "Guided Missile" |
| 22:21:04 | nuum | at the top |
| 22:21:12 | crs23 | BZFlag: i haven't caught up reading the logs yet. |
| 22:21:17 | vogon_jeltz | whee, fixed. |
| 22:21:41 | proton-elsewhere | crs23: i can't find anything wrong with that derivative = |
| 22:21:47 | nuum | maybe the "flag" part of the flag gets a special "GM symbol" |
| 22:22:21 | crs23 | captain_proton, *sigh* guess i'll have to hack something. blech! |
| 22:22:35 | nuum | yup calculus |
| 22:23:16 | proton-elsewhere | i was thinking of adding a graphical weapon indicator (pretty pictures) |
| 22:23:23 | proton-elsewhere | so we could maybe use those graphics ? |
| 22:23:35 | nuum | ah! wicked, like a little icon down on the side |
| 22:23:38 | nuum | yes yes yes! |
| 22:24:00 | nuum | i'm up for the design, give me the sizes |
| 22:24:05 | nuum | 64x64? |
| 22:24:44 | proton-elsewhere | sure |
| 22:24:50 | proton-elsewhere | maybe do 100x100 for now |
| 22:25:06 | proton-elsewhere | and size it down for smaller resolutions |
| 22:25:11 | proton-elsewhere | instead of mipmapping up (ugh) |
| 22:25:13 | nuum | don't you want 64x64 for gl |
| 22:25:20 | proton-elsewhere | doesn't matter |
| 22:25:24 | nuum | mipmapping does the scaling? |
| 22:25:30 | proton-elsewhere | you need 64x64 for TIFF |
| 22:25:31 | crs23 | it does. gl need 2^n sizes for textures. |
| 22:25:36 | proton-elsewhere | it does ?? |
| 22:25:38 | proton-elsewhere | fine |
| 22:25:40 | proton-elsewhere | 128 ;) |
| 22:25:53 | nuum | thats what i thought. 64x64 should be big? |
| 22:26:09 | nuum | i plan on doing simple designs, no crazy corners or anything that might not scale too well |
| 22:26:09 | proton-elsewhere | do 128 |
| 22:26:17 | proton-elsewhere | i want it to be pretty at 1600x1200 =) |
| 22:26:17 | nuum | ok, 128x128 |
| 22:26:21 | nuum | i hear ya |
| 22:26:49 | nuum | which is more lossy. probably scaling down eh? |
| 22:27:01 | proton-elsewhere | scaling down looks good with mipmaps |
| 22:27:06 | proton-elsewhere | scaling up will always be ugly |
| 22:27:22 | nuum | ok, i'll see what i can do. two colors? three? |
| 22:27:42 | proton-elsewhere | could be any number |
| 22:27:49 | nuum | maybe use 3, white, black, & extra that could be replaced by team color? |
| 22:27:54 | proton-elsewhere | i was thinking like 3d pictures of what the weapon would look like |
| 22:28:19 | proton-elsewhere | ... in which case we could make models of them and actually mount them on the tank ;) |
| 22:28:20 | nuum | maybe map them to a sphere? |
| 22:28:29 | nuum | bwahahahaha |
| 22:28:34 | nuum | that would be evil |
| 22:28:51 | crs23 | hmm, what does a phantom zone device look like anyway? |
| 22:29:13 | nuum | heh |
| 22:29:25 | rcam | hey |
| 22:29:38 | nuum | yo rcam, drank your oj today? |
| 22:29:44 | rcam | Sorry I have not been around |
| 22:29:52 | rcam | No OJ sorry |
| 22:30:20 | nuum | rcam, ALL bzflag developers drink their oj in the morning. |
| 22:30:34 | nuum | don't tell me your slackin off |
| 22:30:42 | rcam | lol |
| 22:30:43 | rcam | ok |
| 22:30:52 | proton-elsewhere | crs23: i think that falls under "artistic license" |
| 22:30:53 | rcam | I had Coffie |
| 22:31:17 | nuum | coffee? i smell like the bean too. |
| 22:31:28 | proton-elsewhere | i AM the bean |
| 22:31:41 | nuum | be the bean. play bzflag. |
| 22:31:53 | rcam | brb I am going to test the new bzflag |
| 22:32:01 | proton-elsewhere | nothing has changed |
| 22:32:18 | nuum | nothing ever changes. |
| 22:32:31 | proton-elsewhere | is afraid of change |
| 22:33:18 | nuum | i changed my underwear last week. |
| 22:33:59 | proton-elsewhere | nuum: by underwear, do you mean pants? because we all know that you don't wear those |
| 22:34:45 | DemonMooseX | wassup everyone? |
| 22:34:45 | proton-elsewhere | heyas DemonMooseX |
| 22:35:03 | nuum | hell no. i wear nothin but the finest deer skin up in these parts. |
| 22:35:19 | DemonMooseX | not much proton-elsewhere, just looking to acquire a new game for my department. |
| 22:35:33 | DemonMooseX | checking out some open stuff online |
| 22:36:01 | rcam | DemonMooseX DEpartment for what? |
| 22:36:24 | DemonMooseX | I work for Microsoft |
| 22:36:32 | nuum | get out of here lamer! |
| 22:36:41 | nuum | i hate microsoft. you got money? |
| 22:36:41 | rcam | lol |
| 22:36:42 | rcam | yeah |
| 22:36:49 | proton-elsewhere | nuum: he's got loads of money |
| 22:37:00 | nuum | well duh, he's from microsoft! |
| 22:37:23 | nuum | i wonder what bill gates is in the market for? xbox games? |
| 22:37:26 | DemonMooseX | we're looking to buy BZFlag for our next windows release. |
| 22:37:49 | proton-elsewhere | nuum: remember that message how microsoft was going to follow Apple in using BSD? |
| 22:38:04 | proton-elsewhere | nuum: i talked with him earlier - they want some games that run on UNIX |
| 22:38:19 | DemonMooseX | we need some new games to include with our release, we're also willing to put up some SERIOUS BZ-servers |
| 22:38:47 | nuum | well i know with all those new apple ads featuring unix... |
| 22:39:06 | nuum | like distributed stuff with 10000's of tanks? |
| 22:40:05 | almogaver | re |
| 22:40:09 | nuum | hola amigo! |
| 22:40:40 | almogaver | hola nuum! que tal? |
| 22:41:20 | nuum | bien, y tu? oh, mi cabeza! |
| 22:41:39 | DemonMooseX | BZFlag- can we set up a meeting to discuss possible aqcuisition plans? |
| 22:42:56 | DemonMooseX | Well- I have a lecture to attend, BZFlag- give me a message later so we can establish a meeting point. |
| 22:43:12 | nuum | bring cash! |
| 22:43:21 | DemonMooseX | uh- sure :) |
| 22:43:36 | tad_ | yeaight |
| 22:43:41 | nuum | are you meeting with dr. bill gates? |
| 22:44:06 | tad_ | email me from your microsoft email address :) |
| 22:44:13 | tad_ | that will prove him |
| 22:44:13 | DemonMooseX | I'll see you all later :) |
| 22:44:38 | rcam | Fake |
| 22:44:41 | rcam | Its some kid |
| 22:44:45 | rcam | AT a collage |
| 22:44:53 | tad_ | lol |
| 22:45:02 | nuum | collage? |
| 22:45:09 | rcam | A microsoft person would not just come in a chat room and happen to know his name on here is BZFlag. |
| 22:45:17 | rcam | College |
| 22:45:31 | nuum | man, dirty rotten microsoft |
| 22:45:33 | rcam | Also I routed his ip and it was a .edu |
| 22:45:46 | rcam | He claimed that he wasd thier showing off new .net applications |
| 22:45:51 | tad_ | lol |
| 22:45:58 | rcam | I know for a fact they would not waste thier time. |
| 22:46:06 | nuum | recruiting maybe? |
| 22:46:09 | rcam | No |
| 22:46:15 | rcam | They don't want UNix people. |
| 22:46:21 | nuum | bastards, always getting in with the college crowd |
| 22:46:29 | rcam | THERE NOT THIER! |
| 22:46:42 | rcam | It was a lie. |
| 22:46:49 | rcam | Hes not a real Microsoft guy. |
| 22:46:59 | rcam | Microsoft does not use IRC! |
| 22:47:06 | tad_ | lol |
| 22:47:07 | nuum | i dunno, i know a couple of them came to my school |
| 22:47:07 | tad_ | yea |
| 22:47:16 | nuum | tried to hire some of us, couple of guys sold out |
| 22:47:23 | nuum | i just hope bzflag doesn't sell out |
| 22:57:24 | rcam | . |
| 22:58:45 | tad_ | . |
| 23:00:32 | nuum | tank? |
| 23:00:33 | nuum | moe? |
| 23:00:55 | scanline | is away: pseudo-dinner-like-somethingorother |
| 23:03:37 | iLLf8d | yeah |
| 23:03:38 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 23:03:41 | iLLf8d | whats up num |
| 23:04:14 | iLLf8d | lately i've been tank and moe the (barbarian,destroyer and conqueror =P) |
| 23:24:03 | rcam | Wow CVS is E6 |
| 23:24:08 | rcam | Its so screwed up |
| 23:24:22 | rcam | nuum check it out |
| 23:24:30 | rcam | I just got CVS |
| 23:24:32 | rcam | and its E6 |
| 23:24:35 | rcam | Very weird |
| 23:24:41 | rcam | It sucks very bad, |
| 23:24:46 | rcam | Its super slow and buggy. |
| 23:26:42 | rcam | Wow those freezes are boring me |
| 23:27:13 | rcam | CVS is fixed I think' |
| 23:27:22 | rcam | Weird it was just a weird version I somehow got |
| 23:27:31 | rcam | I wiped that code and got new |
| 23:28:24 | scanline | is back (gone 00:27:30) |
| 23:34:16 | proton | rcam: you are a retard |
| 23:36:55 | proton | i'm sorry, i can't be tactful anymore |
| 23:38:03 | rcam | LOl ITs ok |
| 23:38:07 | rcam | I had a bad version |
| 23:38:17 | proton | i'm not talking about you not being able to compile bzflag |
| 23:38:57 | proton | your antics make granite look like einstein |
| 23:39:21 | rcam | Why do you say that? |
| 23:39:41 | proton | lets examine what has happened the last few days: |
| 23:39:57 | proton | 1) you send me a patch that consists of taking credit for bzflag and mucking up the graphics |
| 23:40:03 | proton | 2) nuum sends you his code |
| 23:40:15 | proton | 3) you submit nuum's code (line-for-line), claiming rcam contributed |
| 23:40:29 | proton | 4) you think you have control over what happens with bzflag |
| 23:40:36 | proton | 5) need I go on? |
| 23:40:44 | rcam | proton If you care to. |
| 23:41:11 | proton | rcam: i'm asking if i need to continue to prove my point |
| 23:41:15 | rcam | proton I understand the MS setup as well as what is going on |
| 23:41:32 | proton | the MS setup was just a friend of mine messing with you |
| 23:41:40 | sekn | what?! |
| 23:42:25 | rcam | proton Like I said I know. |
| 23:43:10 | proton | like you know how you completely destroyed any chance of a partnership when you claimed you contributed to |
| 23:43:14 | proton | 'your' Improved HUD? |
| 23:45:55 | sekn | proton: you saying my directx patch isn't going to be accepted? |
| 23:51:20 | nuum | yo |
| 23:51:22 | nuum | i'm back |
| 23:51:48 | almogaver | hola nuum |
| 23:52:47 | nuum | hola amigo! el patatas fritas (were) muy bueno! |
| 23:53:01 | nuum | how to say were, in the past tense? |
| 23:54:14 | almogaver | ¿las patatas fritas estaban muy buenas? me alegro :) |
| 23:54:29 | nuum | las! |
| 23:54:30 | nuum | ug |
| 23:54:34 | nuum | i feel cavemanlike |
| 23:54:43 | nuum | stupid male/female roles |
| 23:54:46 | almogaver | :) don't worry nuum |
| 23:55:21 | nuum | estaban, estaba, estabamos, estaben? |
| 23:55:22 | almogaver | you talk like lots of tourists :) |
| 23:55:37 | nuum | bastardizing the spanish language and all |
| 23:55:49 | almogaver | yo estaba |
| 23:55:51 | almogaver | tu estabas |
| 23:55:53 | almogaver | el estaba |
| 23:55:56 | almogaver | nosotros estabamos |
| 23:55:59 | almogaver | vosotros estábais |
| 23:56:02 | almogaver | ellos estaban |
| 23:57:26 | nuum | yo estaba un espanol god ;) |
| 23:59:32 | nuum | maybe we should have a discussion out here? |
| 23:59:40 | proton | i agree |