| 01:49:40 | captain_proton | returns |
| 02:52:08 | vogon_jeltz | is away: f00. |
| 03:56:33 | cdm | hey guys. |
| 03:57:13 | cdm | can you run a server without the UI? |
| 04:01:10 | cdm | or do you need to run bzfrelay if you want to setup a server? |
| 04:03:51 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 04:04:19 | jpablo | cdm: check the bzfs command |
| 04:04:27 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:36) |
| 04:04:35 | jpablo | that's what the gui calls. |
| 04:26:50 | scanline | is away: ZZZZZzzzZzz |
| 04:30:02 | jacques | game has been rather flaky latetely |
| 04:30:12 | jacques | even find server is hanging on me now |
| 04:30:59 | jacques | can someone lse try it? |
| 04:31:06 | jacques | is dns fucked again? |
| 04:31:28 | jacques | why does clienthave to totally hang when doing dns? |
| 04:31:47 | jacques | how can I test this? |
| 04:31:55 | jacques | what's the host that does serverlist ? |
| 04:32:18 | jacques | anyone ? |
| 04:32:55 | jacques | is someone DOS servelist, does that mean nobody can play ? |
| 04:34:27 | jacques | bzflag.org is not coming up for me |
| 04:34:36 | jacques | looks like sourcescourge is havig problems (again) |
| 04:34:52 | jacques | 60% packet loss at last hop |
| 04:35:05 | jacques | 12. usw-pr-vhost.sourceforge.net 58% 24 56 30 6 25 48 |
| 04:36:06 | jacques | on another matter, someone told me the client controls how big the SW is ??? how can that be ? is that a configurable thing on the server? |
| 04:55:12 | jacques | heh im watching a game and the spawning is almost worst case sometimes |
| 04:55:22 | jacques | i see ppl spawning with in the middle of firefights |
| 04:57:54 | jacques | ok cheater on astercity |
| 04:57:58 | jacques | invisible with SW |
| 04:58:41 | jacques | maybe that's just the server bug |
| 04:58:43 | jacques | nm |
| 05:01:33 | nuum | someone should recode the respawn positioner |
| 05:02:19 | jacques | hmm my client hung again |
| 05:02:32 | jacques | it's been doing it a lot on 2 different machins for the past 2 days |
| 05:02:41 | jacques | i was connecting to a server |
| 05:03:07 | nuum | someone should multithread it |
| 05:05:55 | nuum | anyone here know how to query how many shots a player has? |
| 05:06:15 | nuum | i can't seem to spot it |
| 05:08:16 | nuum | \msg captain_proton nuum paging proton |
| 05:08:57 | BZFlag | bzflag.org and http://www.bzflag.org/ are fine here. |
| 05:09:28 | jacques | BZFlag: when did you check? |
| 05:09:31 | jacques | they are back now |
| 05:09:34 | BZFlag | the list server is http://list.rikers.org:5156/ |
| 05:09:40 | jacques | yeah that's working now too |
| 05:09:44 | BZFlag | only checked just now. |
| 05:10:01 | jacques | sourcescourge was having problems for at least 20 minutes |
| 05:10:16 | BZFlag | er.... http://list.bzflag.org:5156/ sorry. typo. |
| 05:10:39 | jacques | so, if bzflag.org is down, find srever would break ? |
| 05:11:29 | jacques | curiousity - how often is serverlist updated ? |
| 05:11:35 | BZFlag | if you use the default server list url: http://BZFlag.SourceForge.net/list-server.txt then if it's down so are you. |
| 05:11:49 | BZFlag | the url or the list itself? |
| 05:12:11 | BZFlag | the list server gets updates every time someone leaves or joins a public server. |
| 05:12:46 | jacques | oh I thught I had noticed it being out of sync - like says 10 ppl on a server but there are only 6 etc |
| 05:12:48 | BZFlag | if you use "-list bzflist://166.70.15.250/" then SF can be down and you will still get a list. |
| 05:13:03 | jacques | oh cool |
| 05:13:19 | BZFlag | course if I move the list server you will have to change your config again, but it's not likely to change anytime soon. |
| 05:13:46 | BZFlag | using that will also be faster as it avoids dns lookups |
| 05:13:52 | jacques | cooool |
| 05:14:34 | BZFlag | it's the public servers job to update the list server so if a server crashes it takes a while for the netry to timeout. |
| 05:14:43 | jacques | ah |
| 05:14:57 | BZFlag | s/netry/entry/ |
| 05:15:23 | jacques | you know ohw when ppl leave a server, they are shown in an area below the scoreboard ? |
| 05:15:32 | BZFlag | yeah... |
| 05:15:39 | jacques | what causes that to get cleared ? |
| 05:15:45 | BZFlag | that's done on the client. |
| 05:15:55 | jacques | oh really wow |
| 05:16:07 | BZFlag | don't think there is a config item to adjust that at present. |
| 05:16:29 | BZFlag | notice that when you connect, there are no old players. only when you see them leave. |
| 05:16:32 | jacques | BTW, tank told me that SW bube size is controlled by the client that has SW |
| 05:16:36 | jacques | bubble |
| 05:16:48 | jacques | is that for real ? |
| 05:16:53 | BZFlag | in 1.7, that's true. |
| 05:17:07 | jacques | arg. another optential super-web |
| 05:17:51 | nuum | how do i start a server with 5 shots? |
| 05:17:58 | jacques | what about things like GM range and sped and turn radius ? |
| 05:18:36 | jacques | and number of shots |
| 05:18:44 | BZFlag | turn radius in on the target client. rnage and speed might be on the shooter. |
| 05:18:53 | BZFlag | number of shots is on the server. |
| 05:19:07 | nuum | yeah, whats the command line switch? |
| 05:19:19 | BZFlag | -ms iirc. |
| 05:19:40 | BZFlag | yep. -ms |
| 05:19:41 | jacques | heh |
| 05:19:51 | BZFlag | http://bzflag.org/man-bzfs.html |
| 05:19:56 | nuum | cool |
| 05:20:05 | nuum | i just hacked in a little statusbar for reload time |
| 05:20:16 | nuum | i wonder how i would go about submitting it? |
| 05:20:33 | jacques | cool |
| 05:20:39 | jacques | for 1.8 ? |
| 05:20:46 | nuum | yeah |
| 05:20:48 | BZFlag | patches to: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 05:20:49 | jacques | :-) |
| 05:21:14 | nuum | that sounds tough |
| 05:21:28 | nuum | anyway, i need more work on it |
| 05:21:35 | nuum | any api documentation anywhere? |
| 05:21:42 | jacques | is it currently possible to make a 1.7 server force ppl to use UDP ? |
| 05:21:54 | BZFlag | that's ok, just say it's not finished. at least others will be able to look at it. |
| 05:22:09 | BZFlag | there is a doc directory in cvs. |
| 05:22:38 | BZFlag | and http://bzflag.org/doxydocs/ |
| 05:23:03 | nuum | i'm on it |
| 05:23:23 | nuum | maybe i'll get a screenshot out and see if they are hip to the idea... |
| 05:23:32 | BZFlag | "they" ? |
| 05:23:41 | nuum | developers |
| 05:29:05 | nuum | wheres that no good proton |
| 05:39:15 | BZFlag | heh, that's "we" ;-) /me is Tim Riker <Tim@Rikers.org> the current maintainer. |
| 05:39:25 | nuum | oh hello |
| 05:39:40 | nuum | well tim, good game, now i'm hacking on it, figured i do my part |
| 05:39:51 | BZFlag | crs23 is here from time to time too. he's the original author / project lead. |
| 05:40:01 | nuum | and so i have a progressbar type thing for the shots remaining |
| 05:40:11 | nuum | unfortunately, alot of messy constants and the such |
| 05:40:24 | BZFlag | throw patches up on SF and we will review them. |
| 05:40:28 | nuum | maybe i could leave it up to you guys to go in and abstract out into the proper variables? |
| 05:40:45 | BZFlag | working patches get looked at sooner. ;-) |
| 05:40:54 | BZFlag | but all are welcome. |
| 05:40:58 | nuum | this one works |
| 05:41:07 | nuum | well, at least at my resolution ;) |
| 05:41:21 | nuum | ok, so how to patch? |
| 05:41:33 | nuum | why not just give me cvs access ;) |
| 05:42:05 | nuum | you may not like what i've done as far as code formatting goes |
| 05:42:11 | nuum | you guys really need to tab this stuff better |
| 05:42:22 | BZFlag | cvs diff -u > foo.patch |
| 05:42:37 | nuum | also, any ideas about getting a windowing toolkit somehow so we can use stuff like tables, the mouse to click buttons, etc? |
| 05:42:44 | BZFlag | vi foo.patch and remove the cruft. test the patch elsewhere, and submit it. |
| 05:43:05 | BZFlag | that would be nice. patches welcome. ;-) |
| 05:43:11 | nuum | i do this cvs diff -u > foo.patch in the root bzflag dir? |
| 05:43:17 | BZFlag | yes. |
| 05:43:53 | BZFlag | if you have added any files, cvs is stupid about that and won't pick them up. |
| 05:43:59 | nuum | ack, i've modified everything from menu's to graphics to blah blah |
| 05:44:09 | nuum | yeah, mostly added files for what i'm doing |
| 05:44:13 | nuum | cvs add ? |
| 05:44:13 | BZFlag | you will need to check out another copy of the tree someplace else and diff the two trees. |
| 05:44:55 | BZFlag | we (I) like to see good working patches before giving direct cvs access. |
| 05:44:56 | nuum | checking out, what about the new files? |
| 05:45:17 | nuum | ok. btw, any way to get "remaining shots" without traversing through the shot list |
| 05:45:30 | BZFlag | to diff two trees use something like "diff -Nau dir1 dir1" |
| 05:45:33 | nuum | eg. while(tank->getShot(i)) ++i; |
| 05:45:46 | BZFlag | might want to remove the CVS/* entries if they differ. ;-) |
| 05:46:19 | nuum | hmmm, can i just add the new files to the new dir, then make some minor cosmetic changes to View... stuff? |
| 05:46:19 | BZFlag | not that I recall, no. |
| 05:46:32 | BZFlag | yep. |
| 05:47:27 | onthemark | hello all |
| 05:47:29 | jacques | where's the 1.7 protocol documented again ? |
| 05:47:34 | jacques | hi onthemark |
| 05:47:43 | nuum | yo |
| 05:48:01 | nuum | what do i do once i have all the files set up? |
| 05:49:01 | onthemark | hows life in the east nuum? |
| 05:49:21 | nuum | i'm in the west |
| 05:49:25 | onthemark | where? |
| 05:49:27 | nuum | british columbia style |
| 05:49:36 | onthemark | oops sorry |
| 05:49:40 | onthemark | where in bc? |
| 05:49:47 | nuum | a little town called prince george |
| 05:49:55 | onthemark | hehe i know that well |
| 05:49:58 | nuum | really? |
| 05:50:04 | onthemark | i'm from alberta |
| 05:50:05 | nuum | you're pulling my leg |
| 05:50:11 | nuum | ah! so is the monkeyboy |
| 05:50:15 | nuum | edmonton? |
| 05:50:17 | nuum | calgary? |
| 05:50:21 | onthemark | nnope red deer |
| 05:50:32 | onthemark | 1/2 way between edmonton and calgary |
| 05:50:40 | nuum | is this the monkeyboy? |
| 05:50:54 | onthemark | me no i didnt know he was canuck |
| 05:51:04 | nuum | i think he lives in red deer as well |
| 05:51:13 | nuum | small tank world |
| 05:51:14 | onthemark | ??? serious? |
| 05:51:28 | nuum | i'm pretty sure, ask him the next time you see him. |
| 05:52:05 | onthemark | i will |
| 05:52:12 | onthemark | i thought he was a yank |
| 05:52:33 | nuum | you're not yanking my chain are you? |
| 05:52:39 | onthemark | no |
| 05:52:41 | nuum | quick, whose the premier |
| 05:52:42 | BZFlag | jacques: http://bzflag.org/developer/info-protocol.html but it's missing the udp stuff. |
| 05:52:45 | onthemark | klein |
| 05:52:53 | onthemark | you? |
| 05:52:59 | onthemark | dont say harris |
| 05:53:03 | onthemark | lol |
| 05:53:11 | nuum | zombie cambell |
| 05:53:14 | onthemark | hehehehe |
| 05:53:22 | onthemark | him and klein are bed buddies |
| 05:53:36 | onthemark | my wife is a teaher can you tell? |
| 05:53:40 | onthemark | teacher |
| 05:53:42 | nuum | heh |
| 05:53:53 | onthemark | you on shaw? |
| 05:53:55 | nuum | lets cut everything and let the americans right on in |
| 05:53:56 | nuum | yep |
| 05:54:11 | onthemark | only way to fly |
| 05:54:27 | onthemark | you soulda joined my bz team |
| 05:54:44 | nuum | telus is too ass backwards to get anything right |
| 05:54:52 | onthemark | you hear bout bell? |
| 05:54:53 | nuum | maybe our teams can scrimmage? |
| 05:55:00 | nuum | no |
| 05:55:00 | onthemark | true |
| 05:55:16 | onthemark | bell merged and are going to compete completely with telus |
| 05:55:25 | onthemark | all levels |
| 05:55:44 | onthemark | my team is northern alliance |
| 05:55:50 | nuum | telus is running little isp's out of business |
| 05:55:58 | onthemark | yup |
| 05:56:12 | onthemark | but they are to expensive |
| 05:56:23 | onthemark | and you cant dsl everywhere |
| 05:56:34 | nuum | bah, shaw is quick |
| 05:56:46 | onthemark | i get it cuz i have fibre to house but dad cant and he's 3 blocks away |
| 05:57:14 | onthemark | shaw aint always reliable though |
| 05:57:29 | nuum | always works for me |
| 05:57:51 | onthemark | they just finished (finally) putting in back bone and routers in ab |
| 05:58:16 | onthemark | i'm suprised you have cable in the boondocks hehe |
| 05:58:49 | onthemark | how many people in PG now? |
| 05:58:56 | nuum | 80000 |
| 05:59:01 | onthemark | same as here |
| 05:59:12 | nuum | we've had it for quite some time. pg owns |
| 05:59:22 | onthemark | we're just way closer to that ,mall |
| 06:00:21 | nuum | ok tim, i have the code set up |
| 06:01:00 | onthemark | which player was I thinking of from ontario? |
| 06:01:08 | nuum | heh, just hacking in a shot indicator |
| 06:02:08 | onthemark | time for a quick game |
| 06:02:14 | nuum | where at? |
| 06:02:39 | onthemark | dunno yet cap there set decks for training practice so madcity prob |
| 06:04:19 | nuum | jezzus |
| 06:09:13 | jacques | BZFlag: d'oh |
| 06:16:43 | nuum | that looks like it might work |
| 06:20:30 | jacques | one soht ??? |
| 06:20:32 | jacques | shot |
| 06:22:51 | nuum | how active is development on this game? |
| 06:23:17 | nuum | i mean, it sure hasn't changed much on the surface since i started playing |
| 06:23:36 | nuum | and its starting to hang after a few shots... :( |
| 06:23:47 | nuum | stupid infinite loops |
| 06:23:59 | nuum | um, i say recode this thing in Standard ML |
| 06:28:20 | captain_proton | BZFlag: get nuum here added to the sf project |
| 06:28:34 | nuum | thanks proton |
| 06:34:28 | nuum | goddamn i hate c++ |
| 06:36:05 | nuum | um i think i found a bug... |
| 06:36:20 | captain_proton | nuum: care to send me the shots indicator? (i'd like to take a look) |
| 06:37:17 | nuum | i will, just let me see if i've got a buggy bug |
| 06:38:49 | nuum | stupid out of bounds |
| 06:40:20 | iLLf8d | those are features |
| 06:40:31 | iLLf8d | they're trying to slow you down nuum |
| 06:41:16 | captain_proton | labels another CD |
| 06:42:03 | nuum | heh |
| 06:42:10 | nuum | i've been doing too much java lately |
| 06:42:37 | nuum | ok thats got it |
| 06:42:43 | nuum | proton, can i send you a diff? |
| 06:42:48 | captain_proton | sure thing |
| 06:42:56 | nuum | k, how ;) |
| 06:43:12 | captain_proton | find "DCC Send" somewheres in your IRC client |
| 06:43:17 | nuum | wait i think this should get it |
| 06:43:46 | nuum | i think that may work |
| 06:43:48 | nuum | i'm not sure |
| 06:44:31 | nuum | but if it doesn't, then we have enough bandwidth to get it right |
| 06:44:45 | captain_proton | i got it fine |
| 06:44:56 | nuum | yeah, but i'm not sure about the patch being fine |
| 06:45:10 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 06:45:13 | captain_proton | against current CVS? |
| 06:45:43 | nuum | yeah, but scratch it anyway, i don't think its counting quite right |
| 06:45:59 | nuum | maybe i don't code enough anymore |
| 06:46:13 | nuum | its all "lambda calculus" and "context free grammars" |
| 06:46:21 | captain_proton | eww |
| 06:46:26 | captain_proton | although |
| 06:46:31 | captain_proton | i do like "context free grammars" |
| 06:47:28 | nuum | and languages too! |
| 06:48:22 | captain_proton | i like two-level grammars better though |
| 06:48:28 | nuum | ack. i need some way to tell me how many shots a player can make, not how many are currently out |
| 06:48:32 | nuum | two-level grammars? |
| 06:48:39 | nuum | please, explain |
| 06:49:11 | nuum | my god this is ugly code |
| 06:49:38 | captain_proton | there was a point where programming languages tried to use a feature called (i think) call-by-reference - and it made them require a new type of grammar to describe |
| 06:50:41 | nuum | hmmm, parameter passing mechanisms |
| 06:50:54 | nuum | i'll drink to that |
| 06:51:03 | nuum | ok does the patch work? |
| 06:51:09 | captain_proton | actually it was more a way of passing functions to functions |
| 06:51:20 | captain_proton | haven't yet tried - i'm doing about 20 things at once |
| 06:51:59 | nuum | functions as first class values |
| 06:52:07 | nuum | you should really look into ML and functional programming |
| 06:52:24 | captain_proton | if i want functional programming i'll just use lisp |
| 06:52:34 | nuum | ok i've got a line on this bitch |
| 06:52:46 | nuum | you up on your lisp? |
| 06:52:52 | nuum | which school you going to proton? |
| 06:52:58 | captain_proton | university of colorado |
| 06:53:04 | captain_proton | duh - colorado.edu |
| 06:53:08 | captain_proton | i'm ok at lisp |
| 06:53:39 | nuum | i'm curious. do they have courses on concurrency or functional programming at the lower division level? |
| 06:54:09 | captain_proton | sorta kinda not really |
| 06:54:18 | nuum | do you know what concurrency is? |
| 06:54:24 | captain_proton | of course |
| 06:54:31 | nuum | kinda like harmony |
| 06:54:45 | nuum | man, do you study harmony and counterpoint? |
| 06:54:52 | captain_proton | harmony |
| 06:54:56 | captain_proton | haven't done any counterpoint |
| 06:55:31 | nuum | hmmm, but you can do four part harmony? |
| 06:55:42 | nuum | bach style? |
| 06:55:52 | captain_proton | yep |
| 06:55:57 | nuum | maybe i'm demanding a little too much of the proton |
| 06:56:32 | captain_proton | ? |
| 06:56:46 | nuum | you ever heard sibelius #2? |
| 06:57:38 | captain_proton | hang a sec |
| 06:58:00 | captain_proton | nope |
| 06:58:04 | captain_proton | not that i remember anyhoo |
| 06:58:14 | captain_proton | i have a recording of #1 |
| 06:59:10 | nuum | go listen to the second. its better than even shostakovich |
| 06:59:21 | captain_proton | gah |
| 06:59:25 | captain_proton | shostakovich forever |
| 06:59:33 | nuum | agreed |
| 07:00:07 | captain_proton | i don't suppose you know shost #12? |
| 07:00:41 | nuum | no. i like #5 and hate #6 |
| 07:01:34 | captain_proton | its my favorite piece of music -ever- |
| 07:01:42 | captain_proton | if you want i can send it to ya |
| 07:01:52 | captain_proton | that indicator is pretty |
| 07:01:56 | captain_proton | but it needs to be moved |
| 07:02:23 | nuum | ahhh! you got it! |
| 07:02:30 | nuum | yeah, its kinda hardcoded :( |
| 07:02:36 | nuum | not my usual style |
| 07:02:44 | nuum | also, should be in tank color |
| 07:02:53 | nuum | but i don't know the api or the constants |
| 07:03:20 | captain_proton | it needs to integrate with the view stuff |
| 07:03:52 | nuum | heh, i've got plans for this game |
| 07:04:24 | nuum | i'm talking tank but on a scale of 100 * 100 teams |
| 07:04:38 | nuum | like germany vs. muthafucking russia, ya hear? |
| 07:04:50 | captain_proton | nuum: BZFlag has plans for scalability like that |
| 07:05:12 | nuum | good, cuz i like distributed programming |
| 07:05:23 | captain_proton | this isn't really distributed programming |
| 07:05:29 | iLLf8d | hey guys you have a real problem |
| 07:05:30 | nuum | it could be, it could be |
| 07:05:38 | iLLf8d | someones hacked a client to be able to do anything |
| 07:05:41 | nuum | i have a problem named dmitri |
| 07:05:44 | iLLf8d | I was on the xmission server |
| 07:05:50 | iLLf8d | and you shoot other people you die.... |
| 07:05:52 | nuum | anything? like do my laundry? |
| 07:05:58 | iLLf8d | you pick up a flag they switch them |
| 07:06:01 | iLLf8d | etc... |
| 07:06:03 | nuum | where is this man. give him an award. |
| 07:06:20 | iLLf8d | like you ident red flag pick up gm |
| 07:06:25 | iLLf8d | he drops it on you |
| 07:06:26 | iLLf8d | or she... |
| 07:06:30 | iLLf8d | etc.... |
| 07:06:37 | iLLf8d | the xmission server |
| 07:06:51 | iLLf8d | I'm guessing they can take your kills too |
| 07:06:53 | nuum | to the protonmobile! |
| 07:07:00 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 07:07:09 | captain_proton | heh |
| 07:07:16 | captain_proton | nuum: so - did you want these mp3s? |
| 07:07:19 | nuum | listen. much like your soul, no one, with the exception of dmitri shostakovich, can take your kills |
| 07:07:25 | nuum | yes, yes i would. |
| 07:07:53 | nuum | queue it like the letter after p |
| 07:08:30 | nuum | oh my, he has named his movements? |
| 07:08:30 | captain_proton | maxes out nuum's bandwidth |
| 07:08:35 | captain_proton | for this one yes |
| 07:08:49 | iLLf8d | yeah |
| 07:08:52 | iLLf8d | motherfuckers |
| 07:08:53 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 07:09:01 | iLLf8d | cap did you now about this? |
| 07:09:02 | iLLf8d | heh |
| 07:09:08 | nuum | well i say just go kill the bastard. make him pay. |
| 07:09:15 | captain_proton | i don't now nothing |
| 07:09:17 | nuum | hack your own client. |
| 07:09:31 | captain_proton | ... at which point, you say "huh?" |
| 07:09:35 | nuum | i don't now, but later maybe i'll know what you're talking about |
| 07:10:19 | nuum | proton, i'll come down to colorado to visit you, we'll pick up some girls and head to tijuana |
| 07:11:02 | nuum | we'll get electron, muon, and that mutherfucker nuetron and have smashing good time |
| 07:11:31 | captain_proton | ha |
| 07:11:37 | captain_proton | we know how to have fun here |
| 07:11:46 | nuum | drink budweiser? ugggg |
| 07:11:47 | captain_proton | was bicycle jousting earlier |
| 07:12:01 | captain_proton | nuum: i don't drink |
| 07:12:04 | nuum | bicycle jousting? hell, the snow isn't even melted here |
| 07:12:28 | captain_proton | bicycles + wiffle bats + late at night and too dark to really see anything = 1 hell of a good time |
| 07:12:33 | nuum | ah cmon, every man with culture drinks fine glenmorangie scotch now and again |
| 07:12:48 | nuum | in fact, that reminds me |
| 07:12:59 | nuum | smoke chiba proton? |
| 07:13:20 | captain_proton | has very few real vices |
| 07:13:40 | nuum | tank being one of them? |
| 07:13:54 | captain_proton | haha |
| 07:14:04 | nuum | vices? you do like women don't you? |
| 07:14:08 | jpablo | nigths |
| 07:14:09 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 07:14:14 | nuum | my god proton, don't let me down |
| 07:15:13 | nuum | hmmm. you mean you don't drink and you don't smoke? |
| 07:15:18 | captain_proton | right |
| 07:15:39 | captain_proton | you really CAPTON BRY's dad? |
| 07:16:05 | nuum | not even a fine cuban cigar? |
| 07:16:11 | captain_proton | ugh |
| 07:16:37 | captain_proton | smoking is gross ;) |
| 07:17:12 | nuum | oh my. amerikkkan propaganda has you. pull out proton. |
| 07:17:17 | | Test cancelled. |
| 07:17:17 | fontenot | ibot: test |
| 07:17:25 | fontenot | damn my machine hung |
| 07:17:37 | captain_proton | nuum: i can't stand the smell - why would i ever do such a thing? |
| 07:17:38 | fontenot | now I installed latest nvidia drivers and they are showing agp as disabled |
| 07:17:41 | fontenot | dammit |
| 07:17:57 | captain_proton | fontenot: do you have agpgart built into your kernel? |
| 07:18:03 | nuum | um, depends on how you build your kernel |
| 07:18:04 | fontenot | captain_proton: no |
| 07:18:07 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 07:18:12 | fontenot | I want to use the nvidia agp |
| 07:18:15 | captain_proton | what are you setting "NvAgp" to? |
| 07:18:19 | captain_proton | oh hrm |
| 07:18:23 | fontenot | like i have for thepast > year |
| 07:18:36 | captain_proton | i had to mess around with my kernel config with the latest drivers to get agp up |
| 07:18:59 | nuum | well proton, you smoke a cigar because it is enjoyable. aren't cuban cigars illegal in your country? |
| 07:19:00 | fontenot | captain_proton: oh do tell |
| 07:19:17 | captain_proton | nuum: only because we've got that stupid-ass "embargo" |
| 07:19:25 | captain_proton | fontenot: i just had to make agpgart a module |
| 07:19:56 | fontenot | captain_proton: OK I will try that - that was on my list |
| 07:20:11 | captain_proton | puts on the music of YADRC |
| 07:20:29 | captain_proton | (Yet Another Dead Russian Composer) |
| 07:20:30 | nuum | um. yeah. for the last million years. overthrow your government. now. |
| 07:20:51 | nuum | tell me its rimsky-korsakov |
| 07:20:57 | captain_proton | rachmaninoff this time |
| 07:21:12 | fontenot | while Im screwing around rebooting my machine, I may try my mouse on ps/2 port instead of usb |
| 07:21:26 | fontenot | I think I might get more smoothness |
| 07:21:50 | nuum | death to usb. |
| 07:22:17 | nuum | ok my shot indicator is done |
| 07:22:18 | nuum | now what |
| 07:22:25 | fontenot | i wonder if I will have to change any configuration files to change the mouse |
| 07:22:49 | nuum | we need a proper windowing toolkit. i'm talking containers with renderers backed up with datamodels |
| 07:22:52 | captain_proton | nuum: is it integrated with the view stuff? |
| 07:22:53 | nuum | like java dammit |
| 07:23:01 | captain_proton | nuum: yes we do =) |
| 07:23:35 | nuum | fontenot: not much, just some kernel stuff and some X config |
| 07:23:58 | fontenot | i think I have kernel built to support both but I should check |
| 07:24:00 | nuum | well i really should get to bed. got a whole bunch of number theory to dream about. you like math don't you proton? |
| 07:24:54 | captain_proton | sure |
| 07:25:34 | captain_proton | nuum: what country are you in? |
| 07:25:39 | nuum | canada |
| 07:25:58 | nuum | home of the brave and land of the free |
| 07:26:17 | nuum | 'cept for uncle sam the invader man |
| 07:26:28 | captain_proton | and a bunch of damn cold places |
| 07:26:32 | nuum | shall we have a duel? |
| 07:26:41 | nuum | you ski in colorado? |
| 07:27:01 | nuum | a little two with 1.8? |
| 07:27:17 | captain_proton | i don't ski |
| 07:27:51 | captain_proton | nuum: i'm currently burning a bunch of cds |
| 07:28:07 | nuum | flag hog the cpu? |
| 07:28:36 | captain_proton | yeah it does |
| 07:28:48 | captain_proton | plus i want to keep up this 1-right-after-the-other business |
| 07:29:17 | nuum | my kingdom for ubiquitous computing |
| 07:29:48 | nuum | hmmm, i feel like i should add something to my shot indicator |
| 07:29:59 | captain_proton | you never answered my question |
| 07:30:04 | nuum | maybe "shot count of your enemy indicator"? |
| 07:30:14 | nuum | which question? |
| 07:30:24 | captain_proton | is the shot indicator integrated with the view stuff |
| 07:30:38 | nuum | oh my. we're talkin with the xml and the such |
| 07:30:45 | captain_proton | ya |
| 07:30:45 | nuum | man you tank developers are slave drivers |
| 07:30:49 | nuum | how? |
| 07:30:53 | captain_proton | takes out the whip |
| 07:30:53 | nuum | tell me and it will be done |
| 07:31:16 | captain_proton | uhm |
| 07:31:24 | captain_proton | the code thats there explains it better than I ever could |
| 07:31:39 | nuum | in which file? |
| 07:31:59 | captain_proton | probably most of the stuff in src/view/ |
| 07:33:36 | nuum | hmmm |
| 07:33:43 | nuum | any chance i could talk to crs? |
| 07:33:53 | captain_proton | whenever he shows up |
| 07:34:20 | nuum | when will that be? |
| 07:34:34 | captain_proton | thats really up to him |
| 07:35:04 | captain_proton | as much as it would be fun, i don't decide his schedule |
| 07:35:58 | nuum | i see. |
| 07:36:32 | fontenot | reboot time |
| 07:38:47 | captain_proton | labels another cd |
| 07:38:57 | nuum | rollin rollin rollin |
| 07:39:10 | nuum | you listen to strictly classical proton? |
| 07:39:25 | captain_proton | not completely |
| 07:39:32 | captain_proton | i'm picky about other stuff though |
| 07:40:12 | nuum | thelonius monk? |
| 07:40:27 | captain_proton | never really heard any - thats jazz, right? |
| 07:40:43 | nuum | yes. |
| 07:40:48 | nuum | miles davis? |
| 07:40:58 | captain_proton | i'm not a real jazz fan |
| 07:41:05 | nuum | ohhhh man |
| 07:41:10 | nuum | you don't know what you're missing |
| 07:41:21 | nuum | ok, so this thing is just about customizable on view.bzg |
| 07:41:22 | captain_proton | i like dave brubeck |
| 07:42:08 | nuum | study the piano? |
| 07:42:31 | captain_proton | not really - i took a piano course last semester and i'm required to have basic skills but i'm no pianist |
| 07:43:13 | nuum | couldn't rip out any rachmaninoff then |
| 07:43:23 | captain_proton | haha no |
| 07:43:48 | captain_proton | is currently listening to the Neruda cello concerto |
| 07:43:56 | captain_proton | listening to that symphony? |
| 07:44:33 | nuum | i should |
| 07:44:39 | nuum | its a little late though |
| 07:44:45 | captain_proton | what time is it there? |
| 07:44:46 | nuum | i like my symphonies audible |
| 07:44:51 | nuum | 12:48am |
| 07:44:59 | captain_proton | ohh thats nothing |
| 07:45:15 | fontenot | back with AGP and ps/2 |
| 07:45:23 | nuum | yeah, but it is something with the 'rents upstairs |
| 07:45:34 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 07:45:37 | captain_proton | headphones? ;) |
| 07:45:56 | nuum | you know, my buddy has my flat response audio technicas |
| 07:46:00 | captain_proton | the 2nd movement will bring you to tears |
| 07:46:04 | nuum | i won't listen any other way |
| 07:46:21 | nuum | do you have his 24 prelude and fugues? |
| 07:46:29 | nuum | my god, my god |
| 07:46:35 | captain_proton | no |
| 07:46:42 | nuum | oh my, i'm sending them to you |
| 07:46:46 | captain_proton | i've got the "tahiti trot" though |
| 07:46:49 | captain_proton | grins |
| 07:47:07 | nuum | it is inspiring |
| 07:47:12 | captain_proton | nuum: the 2nd movement of this is about a town where he witnessed 5 of his closest childhood friends get shot |
| 07:47:15 | nuum | i'll have to rip them first |
| 07:47:27 | nuum | really? i didn't know he went through that |
| 07:47:32 | nuum | who was responsible? |
| 07:47:34 | captain_proton | its the saddest thing i've ever heard |
| 07:47:47 | captain_proton | nuum: soldiers - russian revolution, remember? |
| 07:48:16 | nuum | can't escape war |
| 07:51:13 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 07:51:21 | captain_proton | decides to make a full set for this gift |
| 07:52:44 | nuum | ok proton, this thing is done |
| 07:52:48 | Pinguin | captain proton? |
| 07:52:49 | captain_proton | mornin' Pinguin |
| 07:53:15 | Pinguin | Morning ... have compiled bzedit yesterday evening ... works fine ... |
| 07:53:30 | Pinguin | what to do with the map-file ? |
| 07:53:37 | captain_proton | hrm? |
| 07:53:51 | captain_proton | you mean how do you use it in a server? |
| 07:53:57 | Pinguin | yep |
| 07:54:04 | captain_proton | bzfs <other options> -world <file>? |
| 07:54:09 | captain_proton | no ? on the end |
| 07:54:24 | Pinguin | hm ... ok ... i guess i have not RTFM |
| 07:54:36 | captain_proton | begins making another iso |
| 07:54:54 | Pinguin | what s a iso? |
| 07:55:00 | nuum | wait, i've got a wicked effect planned |
| 07:55:03 | captain_proton | Pinguin: CD image |
| 07:55:06 | captain_proton | nuum: whats that? |
| 07:55:08 | Pinguin | ahhh |
| 07:55:32 | captain_proton | nuum: if you're thinking weather effects, thats claimed ;) |
| 07:55:33 | nuum | well, you know what a hashmap is? |
| 07:55:38 | Pinguin | does it drain too much power from your CPU? |
| 07:55:39 | nuum | heh, no, for the pb |
| 07:55:43 | captain_proton | hash as in md5 ? |
| 07:56:15 | nuum | um, i dunno wtf md5 is, but a hashmap is a way of mapping keys to values, so that you get roughly O(1) access time |
| 07:56:21 | captain_proton | oh yeah that |
| 07:56:29 | captain_proton | call it a hash table or a map |
| 07:56:32 | nuum | say for instance i wanted to keep track of 100 numbers but have only 11 spots |
| 07:56:34 | captain_proton | not something in between ;) |
| 07:56:50 | nuum | i figure a suitable compsci greeting is: |
| 07:57:05 | nuum | yo hashcode, probe and map that greeting back to me |
| 07:57:11 | nuum | </aside> |
| 07:57:17 | captain_proton | heh |
| 07:57:24 | captain_proton | nuum: you are an alpha geek |
| 07:57:39 | nuum | \prod p^\alpha |
| 07:57:54 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 07:57:58 | nuum | um anyway, kinda the same idea with the shots |
| 07:58:04 | nuum | never used LaTeX? |
| 07:58:11 | captain_proton | yeah just not extensively |
| 07:58:23 | nuum | use it, it owns microsoft word |
| 07:58:25 | captain_proton | gets away with \section {} most of the time |
| 07:58:30 | nuum | heh |
| 07:59:02 | captain_proton | \begin{displaymath} often enough as well |
| 07:59:05 | nuum | anyway, each shot has its own refresh counter |
| 07:59:15 | nuum | \begin{equation*} |
| 07:59:27 | nuum | i've got tex set out like you wouldn't believe |
| 07:59:33 | captain_proton | if i'm just doing one equation i drop it in $$'s |
| 07:59:42 | nuum | thats so wrong. |
| 07:59:47 | captain_proton | lol |
| 07:59:52 | nuum | purist! |
| 08:00:09 | nuum | i will listen to this symphony first thing tomorrow |
| 08:00:14 | captain_proton | coo' |
| 08:00:36 | captain_proton | you won't think sibelius owns shost anymore ;) |
| 08:00:39 | nuum | i think this pb is done |
| 08:00:55 | nuum | i have some plans for it, but i think its about complete |
| 08:02:08 | nuum | yes it works |
| 08:02:13 | captain_proton | fun |
| 08:02:22 | nuum | dammit don't sidetrack me |
| 08:02:39 | captain_proton | (sorry) |
| 08:03:00 | captain_proton | tries to think up another tanget to take nuum along |
| 08:03:50 | nuum | um, proton, you gotta get me cvs access. |
| 08:04:01 | nuum | you know i can code, and that i'm not gonna screw up flag |
| 08:04:09 | captain_proton | BZFlag is cautious |
| 08:04:14 | nuum | i can understand |
| 08:04:18 | captain_proton | just humor him for a little |
| 08:04:42 | nuum | bah, this thing should make it into 1.7 |
| 08:04:50 | nuum | august you say for 1.8? |
| 08:04:53 | nuum | thats late! |
| 08:04:55 | captain_proton | thats the goal |
| 08:04:59 | captain_proton | well |
| 08:05:06 | captain_proton | its gonna have a lot changed |
| 08:05:08 | nuum | what to do by then? |
| 08:05:41 | captain_proton | new netcode, new collision, new lots of stuff |
| 08:06:49 | nuum | i think i'm gonna start on threading this thing so that you don't have to sit and wait for the servers |
| 08:07:07 | nuum | also, this thing needs some art. |
| 08:07:31 | nuum | dammit, i'll code up a simple tablemodel and table with renderers |
| 08:07:57 | nuum | menu's, internalframes, hell, a whole windowmanager in gl |
| 08:08:22 | captain_proton | mouse-driven stuff =) |
| 08:08:26 | nuum | bzflag will be a new operating system |
| 08:08:32 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 08:09:55 | nuum | ok good night |
| 08:36:25 | captain_proton | heh |
| 08:36:27 | captain_proton | nuum amuses me |
| 08:48:01 | fontenot | god fucking dammmit |
| 08:48:11 | fontenot | why cant I find a decent game |
| 08:48:20 | fontenot | without TK or everybody on one team vs me |
| 08:49:08 | fontenot | if I get on a team someone joins and gets geno and starts killing themselves or getting killed |
| 08:49:20 | fontenot | if I play rogue everybotu is on one team against me |
| 08:49:35 | fontenot | is it too much to ask to have a little balence? |
| 08:49:45 | fontenot | and there there are the 600-700ms laggers everywhdere |
| 08:49:50 | fontenot | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 12:02:53 | T-34 | Hi all! |
| 12:05:19 | fontenot | i was just ona server where someone is testing cheater botsa |
| 12:05:21 | fontenot | bots |
| 12:08:57 | fontenot | soon we will have unkillable bots running around everywhere with superweapons |
| 12:57:37 | Chestal | re |
| 14:05:48 | FantaZee | hi |
| 14:08:44 | Chestal | hi Fant |
| 14:13:04 | FantaZee | alles klar ? |
| 14:13:45 | Chestal | och jo |
| 14:13:51 | FantaZee | hab mit ajax und bezee gesprochen, sonntag ist ok |
| 14:13:53 | Chestal | Sonntag scheint ja klarzugehen |
| 14:14:05 | Chestal | von uns sollten alle 4 da sein theoretisch |
| 14:14:08 | FantaZee | dann is ja gut :) |
| 14:14:18 | Chestal | ich werd dann nen extra Server starten auf nem anderen Port |
| 14:14:32 | FantaZee | texas hat sich noch nicht gemeldet |
| 14:14:32 | Chestal | damit uns keiner stoert :-) |
| 14:14:41 | Chestal | der laggt eh zuviel :-) |
| 14:14:57 | Chestal | ich weiss nicht, ob man das Match irgendwie bekanntgeben sollte? vielleicht mag ja wer zuschauen? |
| 14:15:10 | FantaZee | dann zieht euch mal warm an. HAHA |
| 14:15:33 | FantaZee | kein problem |
| 14:15:33 | Chestal | ich denk ihr seid schon ein harter Brocken |
| 14:15:40 | Chestal | haette ja erst mal einen leichteren Gegner vorgeogen |
| 14:15:56 | FantaZee | jetzt tu mal nicht so |
| 14:16:08 | Chestal | ich treff dich immer nicht |
| 14:16:32 | Chestal | ihr schaetz mal, dass irh bei den besten 5 Teams dabei seid |
| 14:16:49 | Chestal | wobei ich viele gar nicht kenne |
| 14:17:19 | FantaZee | das glaub ich auch, aber bestimmt nicht die besten |
| 14:17:22 | Chestal | also, 3:3 und 30 Minuten lang? |
| 14:17:38 | Chestal | ich fuerchte wir sind auch nicht die besten, obwohl ich noch hoffe :-) |
| 14:18:52 | FantaZee | 30 minuten ist ok, wir koennen uns ja voher so 10 min aufwärmen |
| 14:19:07 | FantaZee | ich brauch das |
| 14:19:25 | Chestal | ich eigentlich auch, mal sehen, aufwaermen geht ja auch aufm normalen Server |
| 14:19:40 | Chestal | ich muss mal die neuen Features testen vorher fuer das zeitlimitierte Spiel |
| 14:20:03 | Chestal | wenn wir in Rueckstand geraten, lass ich den server abstuerzen ;-) |
| 14:20:19 | FantaZee | irgendwie sollten wir auch klären wie das mit dem auswechseln ist |
| 14:20:37 | FantaZee | wenn team mit 5 leuten da sind wollen die anderen ja auch mal zocken |
| 14:20:57 | Chestal | richtig |
| 14:21:14 | Chestal | ich sag einfach mal, jedes kann wechseln wie es will? oder sollen wir beschraenken auf 2 Auswechslungen? |
| 14:21:56 | FantaZee | sehr lustig, bei team mit max 5 spielern gehen auch nur 2 auswechselungen |
| 14:22:07 | FantaZee | mit pause ist aber blöd |
| 14:22:23 | FantaZee | oder seitenwechsel ;)) |
| 14:22:48 | Chestal | na, mehr Auswechslungen gingen ja, indem ein ausgewechselter wieder reinkommt |
| 14:22:53 | FantaZee | gibts faul und elfmeter ? |
| 14:23:00 | FantaZee | oder ecke ? |
| 14:23:02 | Chestal | noe Pause gibts net, Wechsel muessen dann schon on-the-fly passieren |
| 14:23:08 | Chestal | das ist Aufgabe des Teams das zu regeln |
| 14:23:30 | Chestal | die auf der Bank koennen ja als Observer dabeisein |
| 14:23:44 | Chestal | und wenn einer rein will, muss halt erst ein spielender raus |
| 14:23:59 | FantaZee | schön, nur wenn zuschauer dabei sind kann das probleme geben |
| 14:24:06 | FantaZee | das kennt man ja |
| 14:24:18 | Chestal | meinst du einer von denen spielt dann mit? |
| 14:24:30 | FantaZee | dann haste immer wieder welche die dann reinkommen |
| 14:24:40 | FantaZee | oder einfach nur stören wollen |
| 14:25:21 | FantaZee | man müsste das schützen können mit password |
| 14:25:22 | Chestal | FantaZee: Server wird erst kurz vorm Match gestartet auf einem anderen Port |
| 14:25:39 | FantaZee | die problematik ist aber da |
| 14:25:43 | Chestal | den koennte man geheimhalten, nur kommen dann halt gar keien Zuschauer |
| 14:26:06 | Chestal | wenn wir schon 1.8 haetten, dann haetten wir eindeutige IDs, da waer da machbar |
| 14:26:30 | FantaZee | gibt es die schon ? |
| 14:26:38 | Chestal | noe, aber soll ja kommen |
| 14:26:47 | Chestal | dann wird alles besser :-) |
| 14:27:06 | FantaZee | lass uns das sonntag mal einfach testen, kommt zeit kommt rat |
| 14:27:22 | Chestal | jo, soll das denn schon ein 'offizielles' Match sein fuer das Rating? |
| 14:28:19 | FantaZee | ist mir egal, solange es keine probleme gibt ok, nur wenn da diverse pappnasen sind die ärger machen dann nicht...es sei denn ihr verliert |
| 14:28:41 | Chestal | heh :-) |
| 14:28:50 | FantaZee | logisch |
| 14:29:16 | FantaZee | gut gut also sonntag 19 uhr |
| 14:29:29 | Chestal | als offizieller League-Admin binich natuerlich gleichzeitig Spieler und Schiedsrichter |
| 14:29:40 | Chestal | ehm, 21 Uhr |
| 14:29:44 | Chestal | 19 Uhr UTC |
| 14:29:51 | FantaZee | das wollt ich wissen :)) |
| 14:30:07 | Chestal | am besten etwas vorher treffen, hier oder auf den anderen ducati-Servern, mal schauen |
| 14:30:07 | FantaZee | ich mach dann den schiedsrichterbeobachter |
| 14:30:45 | FantaZee | dann hier so um 20:40 |
| 14:30:56 | Chestal | ok |
| 14:31:17 | Chestal | mal sehen, ob heute Abend das Spiel meq<->hispanola steigt, letztere laggen ja leider wie Sau :-( |
| 14:31:17 | FantaZee | muss mich um meine kleinen kümmern, ciao bis sonntag |
| 14:31:22 | Chestal | bis dann |
| 14:31:45 | FantaZee | ach ist OooOooO capn ? |
| 14:31:53 | Chestal | einer von denen wohl, ja |
| 14:32:02 | FantaZee | soso dacht ich mir |
| 14:32:06 | FantaZee | bye |
| 14:32:11 | Chestal | bye |
| 15:39:49 | scanline | is back (gone 11:12:59) |
| 16:06:34 | jpablo | motninh |
| 16:06:36 | jpablo | morning |
| 17:33:06 | scanline | is away: food-like-stuff and class |
| 17:51:32 | Chestal | hi nuum |
| 17:51:44 | nuum | hey chestal, can you merge patches into 1.8? |
| 17:52:41 | Chestal | yep, although I am not up to date with 1.8 |
| 17:52:59 | nuum | i've got a new addition |
| 17:53:11 | nuum | a shot counter / bad flag time remaining indicator |
| 17:53:32 | nuum | i just don't know exactly how to make patches |
| 17:53:46 | Chestal | using cvs? |
| 17:53:46 | nuum | would like cvs commit ability |
| 17:54:06 | nuum | i have added some new files, tim told me how, just looking up patch in the man pages now |
| 17:54:07 | Chestal | only a few peopel have cvs write access right now, ask Tim aka BZFLag |
| 17:54:17 | Chestal | no need to |
| 17:54:23 | Chestal | you can use cvs diff -u |
| 17:54:31 | nuum | yeah but what about new files |
| 17:54:48 | Chestal | hmm, good question. The only thing I ever did with diff -u was single files |
| 17:55:05 | Chestal | what does the shot counter do? |
| 17:55:23 | nuum | well say you are playing on a server with five shots |
| 17:55:30 | nuum | you get five little shot icons down there |
| 17:55:36 | nuum | when you spend em, they go away |
| 17:55:52 | nuum | if you get down to 0, then you get a diminishing red statusbar telling you how long till reload |
| 17:55:59 | Chestal | I annot realyl use 1.8 here, it still sucks with software rendering |
| 17:56:14 | nuum | i was annoyed with the "reloading in 2.3"... |
| 17:56:30 | nuum | i imagine you need a pretty good card to do 1.8 |
| 17:56:50 | nuum | but it doubles as a "evil flag" indicator, yellow pb telling you how long you have to put up with a bad flag |
| 17:57:30 | Chestal | 1.8 should run as good with software renderign as 1.7 in the final version |
| 17:57:39 | nuum | you will have to excuse my retarded client |
| 17:57:42 | Chestal | hi freelancer |
| 17:57:47 | | what's up, [meq]freelancer |
| 17:57:47 | [meq]freelancer | hi |
| 17:57:47 | Chestal | nuum: 1.8 should run as good with software renderign as 1.7 in the final version |
| 17:58:09 | nuum | how well does it run with software rendering? |
| 17:58:14 | nuum | i seem to recall it hurts |
| 17:58:16 | [meq]freelancer | waiting for proton and to find out were the challenge is |
| 17:58:41 | Chestal | nuum: 1.7? quite ok |
| 17:58:45 | nuum | what challenge? |
| 17:58:52 | Chestal | freelancer: meq <-> hispanos? |
| 17:58:57 | [meq]freelancer | yes |
| 17:59:05 | Chestal | when is it scheduled? in 1 hours? |
| 17:59:11 | nuum | Chestal: we're talking shadows and pretty rendering? i can't get it to be pretty on my win2k with voodoo3 |
| 17:59:20 | nuum | meq vs hIs? scrimmage? |
| 17:59:37 | Chestal | nuum: beauty likes in the eye of the beholder :-) I'm using no features except for lighting here with software rendering |
| 17:59:39 | [meq]freelancer | i'm not sure he said 7:00 pm utc |
| 17:59:49 | Chestal | freelancer: yes, that's in 1 hours |
| 18:00:09 | [meq]freelancer | ok thanks cu later then |
| 18:00:28 | nuum | maybe i'll watch that |
| 18:00:30 | Chestal | hmm, maybe I should test my timed game features |
| 18:00:53 | blaboo | goddamn i hate bitchx |
| 18:00:59 | Chestal | what are you doing? |
| 18:01:11 | blaboo | it likes to reconnect me to different servers |
| 18:01:13 | Chestal | only problem with the match is that the his are major laggers |
| 18:02:24 | blaboo | ok so i'm gonna try to submit a patch and hope it works |
| 18:06:04 | blaboo | ok bombs away |
| 18:07:12 | blaboo | stupid flag doesn't work anymore |
| 18:07:53 | Chestal | maybe it's easier if you just wait till TIm shows up for write access |
| 18:07:59 | Chestal | if your code sucks, we can still remove it :-) |
| 18:08:11 | blaboo | die. my code does not suck |
| 18:08:20 | Chestal | he, I said if |
| 18:08:32 | blaboo | i don't care even if it is conditional |
| 18:08:42 | blaboo | ;) |
| 18:09:07 | Chestal | I'd like to see some work on the important parts of 1.8 like the registry/karma and network code (well, Tim is workign on the latter) |
| 18:09:09 | blaboo | man this should make it into 1.7 |
| 18:09:30 | blaboo | i would like to do a proper gui toolkit for the thing so that we can have proper layout of menus and the such |
| 18:10:09 | Chestal | damn ,the silly FreeBSD machien crashed |
| 18:10:19 | blaboo | really? |
| 18:10:26 | blaboo | freeBSD usually doesn't crash |
| 18:10:39 | Chestal | and I cannot reach it, my keycard expired |
| 18:10:49 | blaboo | wtf? keycard? |
| 18:10:58 | blaboo | are we playing doomII or what? |
| 18:11:18 | Chestal | heh, it's the students' pool |
| 18:11:29 | Chestal | and the room is secured by an electronic lock |
| 18:11:36 | blaboo | you admin a school? |
| 18:11:50 | Chestal | workign at the university |
| 18:12:00 | blaboo | which u? |
| 18:12:08 | Chestal | ah, heh, I can use my co-workers card |
| 18:12:19 | Chestal | University of Siegen, Germany |
| 18:12:27 | Chestal | be back in 5 minutes |
| 18:16:35 | Chestal | hmm, it didn't crash but it had severe problems, network interface down, I couldn't login as root |
| 18:20:57 | Chestal | it mgiht have run out of file handles |
| 18:29:06 | Pinguin | is leaving for weekend ... bye ... |
| 18:40:28 | blaboo | crappy freebsd |
| 18:55:06 | Chestal | hi SATAN |
| 18:55:12 | [HIS]_SATAN | hi |
| 18:55:52 | Chestal | freelancer: where's proton? |
| 18:56:03 | [meq]freelancer | don't know |
| 18:57:10 | [meq]freelancer | i was told to be here at 2:55 pm est. |
| 18:57:36 | Chestal | when was the lasttime you talked with proton? |
| 18:58:02 | [meq]freelancer | got a bzmessage 2 days ago |
| 18:58:53 | [meq]freelancer | no srry yesterday |
| 18:59:05 | Chestal | hmm, I hearf of this battle a few days ago and offered to start a server for this |
| 18:59:19 | Chestal | hadn't heard anythign about it for 2-3 days, though |
| 18:59:31 | [meq]freelancer | damm |
| 19:00:04 | Chestal | SATAN: what about your teammates? |
| 19:00:37 | [meq]freelancer | don'y know what is going on |
| 19:01:12 | [meq]freelancer | last message i got told me to be here now |
| 19:01:18 | Chestal | btw.: we have arranged Moles<->Zees for Sunday, same time |
| 19:02:01 | [meq]freelancer | anyone talk to proton lately |
| 19:02:05 | Chestal | I wasn't sure whether the match was still planned for today, but I didn't hear otherwise, so I though tit would |
| 19:02:11 | Chestal | not today |
| 19:02:19 | Chestal | yesterday, hmm, I am not sure |
| 19:02:33 | [HIS]_SATAN | the match is at 8:00 GMT? |
| 19:02:51 | Chestal | not 19:00 GMT? |
| 19:03:10 | [HIS]_SATAN | what time is now :-)? |
| 19:03:15 | Chestal | 19:06 UTC |
| 19:03:21 | [HIS]_SATAN | in GMT please |
| 19:03:32 | [meq]freelancer | i was here an hour ago and heard nothing |
| 19:03:32 | Chestal | that is GMT |
| 19:03:42 | [HIS]_SATAN | :-O |
| 19:03:51 | Chestal | UTC = Universal Time Coordinated |
| 19:03:57 | Chestal | GMT = Greenwhich Mean Time |
| 19:04:07 | Chestal | UTC is the world standard time |
| 19:04:44 | Chestal | there always is confusion with the timezones |
| 19:04:49 | [HIS]_SATAN | ni flores macho (I didn't known |
| 19:04:53 | Chestal | so, was it scheduled for 19 or 20 UTC? |
| 19:05:13 | [meq]freelancer | proton told me 18:00 |
| 19:05:46 | Chestal | hmm, but noone was here an hour ago |
| 19:05:57 | [HIS]_SATAN | i hope 20:00 GMT, at 19:00 only 2 players was sure that will can play(Sorry my english is very bad) |
| 19:06:34 | [meq]freelancer | i'm goig to double check my message cu in a few |
| 19:06:43 | Chestal | ok |
| 19:09:11 | RiSeMaN | hello :) |
| 19:09:19 | [HIS]_SATAN | hola riseman |
| 19:09:27 | RiSeMaN | hey satan :)) |
| 19:10:36 | [meq]freelancer | ok i think its being change to another time but i don't know when |
| 19:13:36 | [meq]freelancer | hi t |
| 19:13:50 | T-34 | Hi tankers, hi freelancer! |
| 19:14:04 | [HIS]_SATAN | hi t-34 |
| 19:14:08 | [meq]freelancer | when is the match |
| 19:14:11 | T-34 | What about the meq's? |
| 19:14:33 | [meq]freelancer | i thought it was now |
| 19:14:37 | T-34 | Don't know freelancer |
| 19:14:44 | T-34 | Yeap me too |
| 19:15:08 | [meq]freelancer | now i have no clue were anyone is |
| 19:15:13 | T-34 | But Almogaver didn't show up |
| 19:15:32 | T-34 | Captain Proton? |
| 19:15:36 | [meq]freelancer | satan was just here a minute ago |
| 19:15:48 | T-34 | yeap I saw |
| 19:15:52 | [meq]freelancer | proton is mia |
| 19:15:53 | T-34 | So Riseman |
| 19:16:02 | RiSeMaN | hi t-34 :))) |
| 19:16:02 | [HIS]_SATAN | hi |
| 19:16:11 | T-34 | Uh sorry about Captain |
| 19:16:26 | Chestal | coudl you agree on a time now :-) |
| 19:16:32 | [meq]freelancer | dam i'm the only meq here |
| 19:16:34 | T-34 | We'll call him marchal from now |
| 19:17:01 | T-34 | Hey Hispanic people where is Almo? |
| 19:17:04 | Chestal | 5 meqs and only one here, hmm |
| 19:17:18 | [meq]freelancer | did anyone reschedual the match |
| 19:17:19 | T-34 | perhaps they're training |
| 19:17:25 | RiSeMaN | T-34: i don't know.... ummm |
| 19:17:44 | T-34 | So what about the challenge? |
| 19:17:50 | RiSeMaN | umm 40 minutes left no? |
| 19:17:57 | T-34 | We are 3 and anly 1 meq |
| 19:18:07 | Chestal | riseman: there's some confusion about the time |
| 19:18:07 | T-34 | we win |
| 19:18:21 | [HIS]_SATAN | good idea t-34 |
| 19:18:24 | T-34 | numeric domination |
| 19:18:25 | RiSeMaN | Chestal: ammmm :))) |
| 19:18:25 | [meq]freelancer | 1 againts 4 i don't think its fair to you guys better get some more people (ha ha ha) |
| 19:18:41 | RiSeMaN | is no honor, win for no present :) |
| 19:18:54 | T-34 | no, but I think we can adopt the chineese strategy |
| 19:19:09 | RiSeMaN | chinesse strategy? |
| 19:19:09 | RiSeMaN | xD |
| 19:19:20 | T-34 | yeap |
| 19:19:32 | T-34 | more then they, better for us |
| 19:20:10 | T-34 | Actually even Ara said that will be on Ducati at this hour |
| 19:20:13 | RiSeMaN | umm a question, this match is only friendly no? :D |
| 19:20:24 | T-34 | more or less ;) |
| 19:20:40 | Chestal | that depends on you, we could count it as the first 'official' match |
| 19:20:47 | Chestal | thus it would affect the team ratings |
| 19:21:02 | RiSeMaN | ammm ok :DDDD |
| 19:21:03 | T-34 | yeap Chestal but we don't have opponent |
| 19:21:19 | T-34 | it's just freelancer from meq's |
| 19:21:22 | Chestal | T-34: maybe they'll come? |
| 19:21:27 | T-34 | I hope |
| 19:21:35 | Chestal | someone thought it would be at 20:00 UTC |
| 19:21:57 | T-34 | I just want to know because if it's a match I go at the office for a better connection |
| 19:22:20 | T-34 | If not I go and buy some beers |
| 19:22:26 | RiSeMaN | xDDD |
| 19:22:40 | [meq]freelancer | anyone know how to get in touch with proton |
| 19:22:43 | Chestal | so, noone is sure about the exact time you agreed on? |
| 19:22:55 | T-34 | believe me it's a hard decision what to do ;) |
| 19:23:02 | Chestal | I'll send him some beeps :-) |
| 19:23:26 | T-34 | first they agree that the match begin in half hour from now |
| 19:23:47 | T-34 | didn't was like that? |
| 19:24:22 | [HIS]_SATAN | the last message of almogaver: |
| 19:24:25 | [HIS]_SATAN | cpt. proton has proposed to play at 7 p.m. UCT (same hour that GMT) not at 8 p.m. I think is possible that I can't to play at this hour. Can you? |
| 19:25:13 | T-34 | what time GMT is now? |
| 19:25:16 | Chestal | freelance: what about the other meqs? |
| 19:25:22 | Chestal | 19:28 now |
| 19:25:29 | [meq]freelancer | 7:00 pm utc was the time i was told |
| 19:25:38 | Chestal | although the time in Greenwhich probably is 20:28 :-) |
| 19:26:01 | T-34 | :)) |
| 19:26:21 | [meq]freelancer | he was off by an hour he told me 2:55 est but i calculated 1:55 est |
| 19:26:44 | [meq]freelancer | maybe its 3:55 est |
| 19:27:10 | Chestal | at least we all agree on the day ;-) |
| 19:27:19 | [meq]freelancer | that means back to the original time 1/2 hour from now |
| 19:27:57 | Chestal | freelancer: did the other meqs plan to show up? |
| 19:28:12 | [meq]freelancer | from what i know yes |
| 19:28:54 | Chestal | I guess the Zee<->mole battle on Sunday will work better, because (except for one) we're all in one timezone |
| 19:29:32 | [meq]freelancer | any luck with proton |
| 19:29:48 | Chestal | no, I just sent him some ^G here on IRC |
| 19:30:00 | T-34 | Shit I'll go to buy beer |
| 19:30:42 | Chestal | I'm going to wait 30 minutes more, then I'll go home |
| 19:30:47 | [meq]freelancer | i'll give it 1/2 hour more before i give up |
| 19:30:50 | T-34 | Ufff, I'll take a Riva TNT for office just for this match |
| 19:31:48 | T-34 | ok hope to see you in the battle field |
| 19:31:51 | T-34 | bye |
| 19:31:58 | [meq]freelancer | cu later |
| 19:32:06 | RiSeMaN | later :) |
| 19:33:43 | vogon_jeltz | is away: napz0ring. |
| 19:36:54 | captain_proton | ARGH |
| 19:37:02 | [meq]freelancer | hi catain |
| 19:37:03 | captain_proton | miscommunications ALL over the place |
| 19:37:11 | Chestal | ah, there he is :-) |
| 19:37:40 | [meq]freelancer | when is it on |
| 19:37:55 | captain_proton | dunno |
| 19:38:12 | captain_proton | i got a message from almo that nobody could do it 40 minutes ago |
| 19:38:27 | [meq]freelancer | what about other meq's |
| 19:38:43 | captain_proton | well |
| 19:38:48 | captain_proton | demonmoose was around |
| 19:39:53 | [meq]freelancer | i was giving it to 4:00 est glad you are here t-34 and riseman should be back in a few |
| 19:40:34 | [HIS]_SATAN | los meq's nos tienes miedo a los hispanos, jeje |
| 19:40:35 | captain_proton | i don't think moose is available anymore |
| 19:40:51 | [meq]freelancer | soy argentino |
| 19:41:13 | | Chestal: sorry... |
| 19:41:13 | Chestal | ibot, x esp en los meq's nos tienes miedo a los hispanos, jeje |
| 19:41:15 | [HIS]_SATAN | joer pues te has confundido de equipo ;-) |
| 19:41:28 | | Chestal: i'm not following you... |
| 19:41:28 | Chestal | ibot: hmm, I always forget the code for spanish |
| 19:41:40 | Chestal | ibot, x sp en los meq's nos tienes miedo a los hispanos, jeje |
| 19:41:41 | | Chestal: meq's you are scared to us to the Hispanics, jeje |
| 19:41:57 | Chestal | ibot, x sp en joer pues te has confundido de equipo |
| 19:41:58 | | Chestal: to joer because you have been confused of equipment |
| 19:42:08 | Chestal | hmm |
| 19:42:18 | Chestal | it sounds even wierder in English |
| 19:42:25 | [meq]freelancer | tranlation is a bit off |
| 19:43:07 | [HIS]_SATAN | it's a good translation |
| 19:43:40 | [meq]freelancer | confused of team not equipment |
| 19:44:30 | [meq]freelancer | ?? was this an official match |
| 19:45:25 | Chestal | I'd say it was official and if it doesn not take place, I'll lower both team ratings ;-) |
| 19:45:37 | [meq]freelancer | ack |
| 19:46:55 | captain_proton | is confused |
| 19:47:17 | [meq]freelancer | how many his are here now |
| 19:47:25 | [HIS]_SATAN | 3 |
| 19:47:37 | Chestal | 3? I see only 2? |
| 19:47:46 | Chestal | SATAN RiSeMaN |
| 19:47:54 | RiSeMaN | no, t-34 i going to buy beer :)) |
| 19:47:56 | [meq]freelancer | we got 2 meq'q |
| 19:48:12 | Chestal | ok, so we will hopefully have 3 [HIS] |
| 19:48:21 | Chestal | is there any hope for a 3rd meq? |
| 19:48:27 | [meq]freelancer | if not 2 on 2 |
| 19:48:31 | Chestal | I think arathorn is on ducati |
| 19:48:39 | captain_proton | i think moose went to class |
| 19:49:06 | captain_proton | and i have no clue where tank is |
| 19:49:27 | [meq]freelancer | was tank going to be here |
| 19:49:34 | captain_proton | not that i know of |
| 19:49:38 | captain_proton | i was planning on moose |
| 19:49:44 | captain_proton | but almo got us all confused |
| 19:50:39 | [meq]freelancer | is that who chaged the time |
| 19:51:06 | captain_proton | I've been talked with my teammates, and play at 7:00 p.m. will be near imposible. |
| 19:51:12 | captain_proton | (thats a quotation) |
| 19:51:58 | [meq]freelancer | so what do we do reschedual |
| 19:53:24 | [meq]freelancer | bye the way captain gerbil told me that you offered hi money to take a dive |
| 19:53:43 | captain_proton | haha |
| 19:53:52 | Chestal | is the rat spreading lies again? :-) |
| 19:54:01 | captain_proton | when is the rat NOT spreading lies? |
| 19:54:24 | [meq]freelancer | i told him i would pay him in schecles and rubbles |
| 19:54:43 | blaboo | heh, damn shitdisturber |
| 19:54:52 | captain_proton | heya nuum |
| 19:55:04 | blaboo | yo, merge my patch yet? |
| 19:55:26 | captain_proton | not yet |
| 19:55:38 | blaboo | whats all this chat about ode's |
| 19:55:50 | captain_proton | blaboo: deformable objects |
| 19:55:57 | blaboo | i know, isn't it interesting |
| 19:56:09 | captain_proton | i think it could be really cool |
| 19:56:15 | blaboo | i wonder how you would do it |
| 19:56:19 | captain_proton | well |
| 19:56:26 | blaboo | you do any physics? |
| 19:56:28 | captain_proton | crs has already implemented a pretty fast ODE solver |
| 19:56:37 | captain_proton | blaboo: its in the works |
| 19:56:58 | blaboo | why not just do the math? |
| 19:57:07 | captain_proton | hum? |
| 19:57:16 | blaboo | why use a numerical method? |
| 19:57:28 | captain_proton | ... to make it work ? |
| 19:57:52 | captain_proton | the math will be different for each deformation |
| 19:58:18 | blaboo | absorbent walls, elastic bounces! |
| 19:58:36 | blaboo | i say change it to electric walls that absorb shots, but then fire them out at random intervals |
| 19:58:42 | blaboo | the walls try to kill you ;) |
| 19:58:46 | captain_proton | hah |
| 19:59:09 | captain_proton | ... i suppose we could do 2 on 2 =| |
| 19:59:21 | blaboo | i think thats how the weather should be, eg electromagnetic rain which deforms your shot trajectory |
| 19:59:23 | [meq]freelancer | i'm a go |
| 19:59:27 | blaboo | let me in ;) |
| 19:59:40 | captain_proton | blaboo: you want to stand in for meq? |
| 19:59:50 | blaboo | [meq] nuum? |
| 19:59:57 | captain_proton | (for this round) |
| 20:00:00 | blaboo | i dunno, its against all my principles ;) |
| 20:00:03 | [HIS]_SATAN | tahat is a bad idea beacuse I'm a very bad player. :-DD |
| 20:00:04 | blaboo | yeah i'm in |
| 20:00:16 | captain_proton | Chestal: we have 3 meqs |
| 20:00:21 | blaboo | no bum chin smileys! |
| 20:00:41 | blaboo | where we playing? |
| 20:00:51 | captain_proton | pokes Chestal |
| 20:00:55 | Chestal | hmm, nuum as meq? |
| 20:00:56 | [HIS]_SATAN | who are the meq's? captain, freelancer and ... |
| 20:01:04 | captain_proton | [HIS]_SATAN: nuum is gonna stand in |
| 20:01:17 | nuum | is this for points? |
| 20:01:23 | captain_proton | nuum: team score |
| 20:01:24 | T-34 | Any news about the game? |
| 20:01:34 | Chestal | shoudl this game count? |
| 20:01:39 | [HIS]_SATAN | 3 his are in the chat |
| 20:01:43 | captain_proton | i'm up for it counting |
| 20:01:44 | nuum | lets do it |
| 20:02:08 | Chestal | who is red? who is green? |
| 20:02:14 | nuum | meq is green |
| 20:02:16 | T-34 | Sorry I was on the way to the office and I don't know what's happened |
| 20:02:19 | nuum | meq is blue actually |
| 20:02:25 | nuum | z00 is green |
| 20:02:33 | Chestal | T-34: there are 2 meqs and nuum wants to join them |
| 20:02:42 | Chestal | so we can play 3:3, 30 minutes |
| 20:02:49 | T-34 | where? |
| 20:02:53 | Chestal | ok, if everyoen agrees, meq green, his red |
| 20:02:55 | RiSeMaN | i know that the color will be random :) |
| 20:03:02 | RiSeMaN | should be random :) |
| 20:03:05 | nuum | blue! blue! |
| 20:03:06 | T-34 | but this shouldn't count |
| 20:03:07 | RiSeMaN | mu english ;P |
| 20:03:14 | Chestal | ducati.bzflag.org port 59987 |
| 20:03:19 | Chestal | game starts when I start it |
| 20:03:24 | T-34 | 55987? |
| 20:03:27 | [HIS]_SATAN | The hell is red, i'm red :-) |
| 20:03:37 | [meq]freelancer | bring on the pain |
| 20:03:40 | T-34 | yeap and grass is green |
| 20:03:48 | T-34 | but no blue please |
| 20:03:48 | captain_proton | lets go! |
| 20:03:56 | nuum | do it! |
| 20:03:56 | T-34 | it looks like shit on the radar |
| 20:04:19 | Chestal | ok? ducati port 59987 |
| 20:04:22 | Chestal | please join everyone |
| 20:05:47 | Chestal | HIS peopel, please join duacti port 59987 |
| 20:07:33 | almogaver | hi |
| 20:08:46 | T-34 | Almo |
| 20:08:56 | T-34 | go on ducati port 59987 |
| 20:09:00 | almogaver | ok |
| 20:09:01 | T-34 | Now |
| 20:09:05 | almogaver | i've arrived so later |
| 20:09:09 | almogaver | sorry |
| 20:09:10 | T-34 | go |
| 20:09:13 | T-34 | go |
| 20:46:18 | nuum | heh |
| 20:46:30 | captain_proton | laggggy |
| 20:46:43 | captain_proton | grabs a coke |
| 20:46:50 | Chestal | i saw lots of shots passing through red tanks, and sometimes a very laggy nuum |
| 20:46:54 | RiSeMaN | :) |
| 20:47:13 | RiSeMaN | a nice game :) |
| 20:47:27 | Chestal | so, should it count as an official game? doesn't change team ratings anyway :-) |
| 20:47:29 | nuum | i was so lagged |
| 20:47:31 | almogaver | greens are a lucky bastards ;) |
| 20:47:33 | nuum | i couldn't hit a thing |
| 20:47:35 | captain_proton | i don't think it matters at all |
| 20:47:36 | nuum | right... |
| 20:47:43 | captain_proton | the current game entering doesn't keep track of match results |
| 20:47:53 | Chestal | captain: ah, ok |
| 20:47:55 | almogaver | they even the match 45 seconds before the game over |
| 20:48:06 | captain_proton | so the only thing it swould change is ratings |
| 20:48:07 | nuum | heh, i was running your flag right up centre |
| 20:48:10 | nuum | it was done for |
| 20:48:42 | nuum | if i didn't lag you guys could have expected three hundred more deaths! |
| 20:48:51 | nuum | no, put my patch into 1.8 |
| 20:49:06 | [meq]freelancer | man made that last one just under the wire |
| 20:49:28 | nuum | yup |
| 20:49:34 | almogaver | 1.8 will be better with flags? |
| 20:49:38 | almogaver | 1.8 will be better with lags? |
| 20:49:43 | almogaver | lags not flags |
| 20:49:49 | captain_proton | should be |
| 20:50:05 | Chestal | 1.8 should improve lag for some people |
| 20:50:06 | captain_proton | time to run to class |
| 20:50:18 | [meq]freelancer | so what is the outcome a tie |
| 20:50:19 | nuum | go go |
| 20:50:29 | nuum | well thanks for the game guys |
| 20:50:31 | captain_proton | free: yep |
| 20:50:36 | Chestal | and maybe it will change collision detection in a way that the disadvantage is only with the lagger |
| 20:50:38 | [meq]freelancer | cu ty |
| 20:50:38 | nuum | i'm out, too much computer skreen for me |
| 20:51:10 | [meq]freelancer | been a hoot ty for the game guys cya |
| 20:51:15 | Chestal | any comments on the lengthof the game? |
| 20:52:03 | [meq]freelancer | was fine by me but i was just warming up time goes by when your having fun |
| 20:52:07 | scanline | is back (gone 03:19:00) |
| 20:52:57 | T-34 | too short |
| 20:52:58 | [meq]freelancer | gtg bye |
| 20:53:01 | T-34 | bye |
| 20:54:50 | Chestal | well, later, I'll drive home now |
| 20:54:52 | BZFlag | RiSeMaN: sup? |
| 20:55:19 | RiSeMaN | bye chestal |
| 20:55:21 | | there is not here |
| 20:55:21 | T-34 | Almo: Still there? |
| 20:55:22 | RiSeMaN | BZFlag: sup? |
| 20:55:35 | BZFlag | RiSeMaN: crs started it. I'm just the not so humble maintainer. |
| 20:56:03 | BZFlag | grins |
| 20:56:11 | RiSeMaN | ammm :))) |
| 20:56:34 | RiSeMaN | in any case thanks :))) |
| 21:00:20 | almogaver | Chestal: i think the lengthof was good |
| 21:00:29 | almogaver | Chestal: but i've only played 10 minutes... |
| 21:01:10 | almogaver | Chestal: more time can be very bad for our hearts... too stress ;))) |
| 21:03:46 | almogaver | i'm going to eat something |
| 21:03:57 | almogaver | i'll come back in a few minutes |
| 21:06:03 | T-34 | bye! Gotto go home, hope my wife will let me in |
| 21:06:12 | T-34 | Thx for the game |
| 21:06:18 | RiSeMaN | bye t-34 :)) |
| 21:06:55 | RiSeMaN | i go to dinner, thanks for a nice game :))) |
| 21:06:58 | RiSeMaN | bye all |
| 21:07:16 | [HIS]_SATAN | the HIS is the very best team :-D |
| 21:07:18 | [HIS]_SATAN | bye |
| 21:39:55 | arathorn | hi all |
| 21:40:10 | lionel_hutz | hello arathorn |
| 21:40:36 | arathorn | t-34 is left and almo? |
| 21:40:42 | arathorn | and ris |
| 21:49:42 | SATAN | hi chestal |
| 21:53:08 | Chestal | re |
| 21:53:45 | captain_proton | muses |
| 21:54:00 | arathorn | hi chestal |
| 21:54:18 | arathorn | i have one answer |
| 21:56:41 | Chestal | hmm? |
| 21:56:51 | arathorn | hmm? |
| 21:57:15 | Chestal | ehm |
| 21:57:34 | SATAN | ahhhh |
| 21:57:40 | SATAN | :-) |
| 21:58:02 | arathorn | LOL |
| 21:58:19 | arathorn | and what now whit teams raiting? |
| 21:58:51 | arathorn | dam no answer ..i was think question |
| 21:59:12 | SATAN | chestal do you know if this match count for the ranking of the team? |
| 21:59:15 | arathorn | sorry i'm confused |
| 21:59:34 | captain_proton | SATAN: it won't count at all because it was a tie |
| 21:59:48 | Chestal | SATAN: well, righ tnow it really doesn't matter. Both teams had a ratign of 1200 and after a tie the ratings won't change |
| 21:59:56 | arathorn | nice games captan proton |
| 22:00:09 | captain_proton | ... if only we were all on the same LAN =| |
| 22:00:10 | Chestal | SATAN: it would only make a difference if we would keep track of all results in a database, but we do not do yet |
| 22:00:36 | arathorn | what u think (all) better is 3:3 or 4:4? |
| 22:00:59 | captain_proton | Chestal: even then i'm not sure it would really matter |
| 22:01:01 | Chestal | I was surprised about the number of kills for a 3:3 game, I think 3:3 is enough |
| 22:01:10 | captain_proton | because it IS a tie and we're rated the same |
| 22:01:14 | Chestal | captain: well, just for the records |
| 22:01:41 | arathorn | hi almo |
| 22:01:46 | almogaver | hi |
| 22:01:52 | captain_proton | true |
| 22:02:06 | Chestal | Valoche should be back next week? |
| 22:02:19 | captain_proton | i think so |
| 22:02:27 | almogaver | i'm ok now, i've ated ;) |
| 22:02:45 | Chestal | I'd liek to experiment with server-side kill detection, but I'm araid it would be a lot of work |
| 22:03:17 | captain_proton | that would be soo cool |
| 22:03:32 | Chestal | I'm still skeptical about it, but I woudl at least want to try it |
| 22:03:47 | captain_proton | twill be a lot of work though |
| 22:03:50 | Chestal | doign dead reckoning for the tanks in the server woudl be the easy part |
| 22:03:52 | captain_proton | have nuum do it ;) |
| 22:04:02 | Chestal | much ore difficult to do all the shots I guess |
| 22:04:13 | Chestal | haven't looked at that part of the game very closely |
| 22:04:14 | almogaver | i was testing 1.8 from CVS yesterday |
| 22:04:31 | almogaver | the menu is definitive? i don't like it |
| 22:04:45 | captain_proton | almogaver: probably not |
| 22:04:47 | almogaver | i think 1.7 with their background is better |
| 22:04:57 | almogaver | but options are ok |
| 22:05:07 | Chestal | captain: I woudl accept it if it wouldn't make a noticeable difference for peopel with really low lag |
| 22:05:10 | captain_proton | nuum wants to write a whole widget set & stuff in gl - so - mouse control |
| 22:05:13 | almogaver | and the messages don't have too much contrast |
| 22:05:24 | almogaver | and becomes hardest to read them |
| 22:05:34 | T-34 | Hi again |
| 22:06:40 | almogaver | hi T-34 |
| 22:40:35 | vogon_jeltz | is away: VFS: Panic: Cannot mount root fs |
| 22:40:46 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:00:07) |
| 22:40:55 | captain_proton | wb |
| 22:41:07 | vogon_jeltz | heya. |
| 22:41:14 | captain_proton | how goes the SDL stuff? |
| 22:41:53 | vogon_jeltz | OK. |
| 22:42:06 | captain_proton | how close is it? |
| 22:42:11 | vogon_jeltz | close. |
| 22:42:17 | vogon_jeltz | I'll be done in a few days. |
| 22:54:56 | scanline | is away: food-like-thingies |
| 23:30:01 | almogaver | i go out too |
| 23:30:02 | almogaver | bye |
| 23:39:55 | scanline | is back (gone 00:44:59) |
| 23:59:12 | BZFlag | just found http://holarse.wue.de/index.php?content=bzflag_interview_englisch |