| 00:46:36 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 08:57:31) |
| 01:07:19 | MrApathyCream | vogon_jeltz: captain_proton: you fellas doin' any zone code, or just imbibing alcohol? |
| 01:07:56 | vogon_jeltz | too young for the latter |
| 01:09:18 | MrApathyCream | vogon_jeltz: must be nice |
| 01:09:37 | vogon_jeltz | don't have the parser that would allow me to do the former |
| 01:10:53 | MrApathyCream | vogon_jeltz: just manually add some zones to the lists... |
| 01:11:01 | vogon_jeltz | waits for XFree86 4.2.0 to compile |
| 01:11:11 | vogon_jeltz | MrApathyCream: nah, no thanks... I don't swing that way |
| 01:11:13 | vogon_jeltz | :P |
| 01:11:38 | vogon_jeltz | waits until the latest possible time at which he can do his work |
| 01:11:50 | MrApathyCream | , the crotchedy old man, wonders what happened to the youth of today |
| 01:12:00 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 01:12:28 | MrApathyCream | vogon_jeltz: No wonder 1.8 has taken so long |
| 01:12:30 | vogon_jeltz | I'm just your typical disillusioned, "I'll-believe-it-when-I-see-it" teenager |
| 01:14:38 | MrApathyCream | What about, I'll believe it if I do it. :) instead |
| 01:14:44 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 01:15:23 | vogon_jeltz | once I see proof that progress is being made towards 1.8, I'll start pitching in |
| 01:15:38 | vogon_jeltz | I don't wanna be "crazy stupid 1.8 guy" |
| 01:15:47 | MrApathyCream | Once you start making progress on 1.8, progress will be being made! |
| 01:16:02 | vogon_jeltz | then I believe we have reached a logical impasse |
| 01:16:27 | MrApathyCream | What's wrong with 'crazy stupid 1.8 guy'.... Title is kind of catchy |
| 01:16:37 | vogon_jeltz | haha |
| 01:17:15 | MrApathyCream | wonders if haha is a more boisterous form of hehe |
| 01:17:24 | vogon_jeltz | 'tis |
| 01:17:36 | vogon_jeltz | and the more-boisterous haha is haw-haw |
| 01:17:51 | vogon_jeltz | (inspired by Nelson Muntz on The Simpsons) |
| 01:18:16 | MrApathyCream | Come-on.... For you it means nothing to wait for 1.8, for me, senility is just around the corner. |
| 01:18:38 | vogon_jeltz | hehe == that's kinda funny, haha == that's really funny, haw-haw == *you're* really funny |
| 01:18:43 | vogon_jeltz | hi, Timmy |
| 01:19:48 | MrApathyCream | BZFlag: What's your policy on adding version safe patches to source.. You give yeh, or ney or is there a vote or....? |
| 01:20:14 | vogon_jeltz | haha |
| 01:20:19 | MrApathyCream | hawhaw you mean |
| 01:20:21 | vogon_jeltz | no |
| 01:20:47 | vogon_jeltz | seeing as how there are only 25 developers, only 5 or 6 of whom actually contribute regularly, a vote wouldn't be all that useful |
| 01:21:02 | vogon_jeltz | s/developers/official developers/ |
| 01:21:43 | MrApathyCream | So what's the process.... |
| 01:21:59 | vogon_jeltz | do you mean version-safe or version-unsafe? |
| 01:22:04 | MrApathyCream | Version safe |
| 01:22:17 | MrApathyCream | Or do you just check stuff in, until some one yells at you? |
| 01:22:18 | vogon_jeltz | version-safe are usually added automatically |
| 01:22:33 | vogon_jeltz | only bug fixen may be checked in by one other than Tim or Chris |
| 01:23:04 | vogon_jeltz | version-unsafe patches sit in the Patches repository until we step the version number |
| 01:25:35 | MrApathyCream | How is version-sfae added automatically? ... by Time and Chris? |
| 01:25:54 | vogon_jeltz | if it's not a bugfix, yeah |
| 01:26:16 | MrApathyCream | ok, that's what i thought |
| 01:27:27 | MrApathyCream | chris still involved at all? |
| 01:27:40 | vogon_jeltz | nope :P |
| 01:28:36 | vogon_jeltz | he is still out in the community (he helped me fix the flag flight-timing thing in my flags-on-buildings patch) |
| 01:33:00 | MrApathyCream | Next time you see captain parser, harrass him, would you... I'd like to see this thing go. |
| 01:34:13 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 01:38:07 | MrApathyCream | hmmm... just a heh |
| 01:39:04 | MrApathyCream | you young-buck superstar programmer-types aren't very motivated...I'll probably be able to hold onto my job after all |
| 01:39:14 | vogon_jeltz | hehehe |
| 01:40:00 | MrApathyCream | leaves with a cloud over his head |
| 01:54:24 | BZFlag | missed him |
| 01:55:05 | BZFlag | I've been swamped lately, so if anyone else wants to get more active on commiting patches, not it the Time. MrApathyCream has been doing a good job. |
| 01:55:31 | BZFlag | start with the bug fixes, don't make "big" changes without contacting me. |
| 01:55:55 | vogon_jeltz | okey-dokey |
| 01:55:59 | BZFlag | really need to start 1.8 stuff, netcode changes etc. |
| 01:56:13 | BZFlag | but we need a doc first. |
| 01:57:09 | vogon_jeltz | ooh, my XFree 4.2.0 compile finished |
| 03:48:57 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: you're a damn yoyo |
| 03:49:06 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 03:54:54 | captain_proton | damn you! |
| 03:55:14 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 03:55:23 | vogon_jeltz | I'm trying to work out some kinks in my XFree setup |
| 05:58:46 | kooper | what this is all about |
| 07:18:55 | captain_proton | comes back |
| 07:19:44 | vogon_jeltz | hi, captain parser |
| 07:19:48 | captain_proton | haha |
| 07:20:01 | vogon_jeltz | nerf, seen mrapathycream |
| 07:20:09 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: its ibot damnit! |
| 07:20:09 | | mrapathycream was last seen on #bzflag 5 hours, 40 minutes and 9 seconds ago, saying: leaves with a cloud over his head [Sun Jan 20 01:40:00 2002] |
| 07:20:09 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, seen mrapathycream |
| 07:20:14 | vogon_jeltz | argh... |
| 07:20:22 | vogon_jeltz | anyway, we need the parser, and we need it now |
| 07:21:47 | captain_proton | can do it tomorrow |
| 07:22:09 | vogon_jeltz | tomorrow != now |
| 07:22:21 | captain_proton | tomorrow == as soon as you're going to get it |
| 07:22:26 | captain_proton | unless i get more bored tonight |
| 07:24:08 | vogon_jeltz | loads up his spinfusor with discs of pure boredom |
| 07:24:46 | vogon_jeltz | fires a spinfusor disc at proton with a resounding "sp-vhhhrrr" |
| 07:46:42 | captain_proton | deftly moves out of the way |
| 07:47:06 | captain_proton | your discs move really slowly |
| 07:47:29 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 07:47:50 | vogon_jeltz | fires a fusion mortar, also composed of pure boredom |
| 07:47:55 | captain_proton | wants his tuxscreen to arrive |
| 08:56:29 | captain_proton | heyhey MrApathyCream |
| 08:58:50 | MrApathyCream | HEY!!!! Where you been? Party-in all weekend, or what? |
| 08:59:21 | vogon_jeltz | wherever he was, he wasn't writing the parser |
| 08:59:43 | MrApathyCream | for sure.... :) ahhhh you young people.... sigh |
| 08:59:58 | MrApathyCream | All the talent, no dedication.... :) |
| 09:01:19 | MrApathyCream | vogon_jeltz: and you, still waiting for someone else to give you a reason to start? |
| 09:01:30 | vogon_jeltz | yup |
| 09:05:00 | MrApathyCream | vogon_jeltz: Dumping BZ for tribes? |
| 09:05:10 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 09:05:15 | vogon_jeltz | for the time being |
| 09:05:28 | vogon_jeltz | (until I get a parser on my desk) |
| 09:06:06 | MrApathyCream | captain_parser? |
| 09:07:03 | MrApathyCream | things captain_parser has passed out from too much merriment. |
| 09:09:26 | MrApathyCream | wonders what 'Receive wallops' does.... |
| 09:10:15 | vogon_jeltz | it lets you hear cool stuff from lilo and the gang |
| 09:10:39 | vogon_jeltz | -lilo/Wallops- Apparent backbone problems on connections to Europe, rerouted <-- does that crazy lilo ever settle down? |
| 09:11:12 | MrApathyCream | it appeared that everyone got tossed earlier |
| 09:16:03 | | mrapathycream: bugger all, i dunno |
| 09:16:03 | MrApathyCream | ibot, when will the fellas start? |
| 09:28:36 | captain_proton | back |
| 09:57:26 | MrApathyCream | hehe |
| 09:57:42 | MrApathyCream | i like it |
| 09:57:43 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 09:57:57 | captain_parser | gee |
| 09:58:30 | MrApathyCream | and for you.... |
| 09:58:40 | MrApathyCream | vogon_procrastinator |
| 09:58:53 | captain_parser | haha |
| 10:03:17 | MrApathyCream | http://www.happypuppy.com/win/demos/bzflag1.html |
| 10:03:20 | MrApathyCream | ?? |
| 10:04:05 | captain_parser | what the hell? |
| 10:05:15 | captain_parser | i think i'm gonna email them |
| 10:06:04 | captain_parser | starts writing a nasty letter |
| 10:07:50 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, let me sign it, too... |
| 10:08:05 | vogon_jeltz | sticksoft.com doesn't even resolve |
| 10:08:10 | captain_parser | yeup |
| 10:09:34 | captain_parser | downloads it to see just how out-of-date the version they're peddling is |
| 10:12:25 | captain_parser | ick...just a .exe |
| 10:12:43 | captain_parser | MrApathyCream: care to figure out what version they're 'selling' ? |
| 10:14:14 | MrApathyCream | hmmm...how to tell.. no resource info |
| 10:14:29 | captain_parser | install it? ;) |
| 10:14:59 | captain_parser | MrApathyCream: care to be underwritten on this email as well? |
| 10:15:06 | vogon_jeltz | I could strings(1) it |
| 10:15:13 | captain_parser | vogon_jeltz: already did - nothing useful |
| 10:15:23 | captain_parser | its the installer, which means everything else is binary compressed |
| 10:15:25 | captain_parser | =/ |
| 10:15:26 | vogon_jeltz | it's an installer then |
| 10:15:31 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 10:16:13 | MrApathyCream | captain_parser: srue |
| 10:16:14 | MrApathyCream | sure |
| 10:16:56 | captain_parser | MrApathyCream: can you get me the ver # before i send this off? |
| 10:17:28 | vogon_jeltz | bets it's somewhere in the 1.4 zone |
| 10:18:02 | captain_parser | probably |
| 10:18:22 | captain_parser | vogon_jeltz: care to wine it? ;) |
| 10:18:27 | captain_parser | doesn't have wine |
| 10:18:56 | vogon_jeltz | I don't either, and I'm occupied downloading the fifth fit of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy |
| 10:19:08 | captain_parser | heh ok |
| 10:20:24 | vogon_jeltz | it's at 82 percent, so that means it'll prolly be another 40 minutes or so |
| 10:20:51 | captain_parser | haha |
| 10:21:00 | MrApathyCream | there are the characters '1.4' in the installer (just looking at binary) |
| 10:21:02 | captain_parser | where are they at? |
| 10:21:14 | captain_parser | MrApathyCream: i did a strings on bzflag_demo.exe |
| 10:21:26 | captain_parser | it also contains '1.5', '1.6', and '1.7' =P |
| 10:22:01 | captain_parser | vogon_jeltz: where are the h2g2 recordings? |
| 10:22:40 | MrApathyCream | hmm, when client connects to server, does it send version? |
| 10:22:50 | MrApathyCream | or just from server to client... |
| 10:22:55 | captain_parser | just server to client |
| 10:22:57 | vogon_jeltz | ahh, I'm just getting them off of the OpenNAP server at weedethics.posixnap.net |
| 10:23:02 | captain_parser | vogon_jeltz: eww |
| 10:23:18 | vogon_jeltz | this guy has some odd dealie going on with his T1 |
| 10:23:36 | captain_parser | heh |
| 10:23:38 | vogon_jeltz | my download goes for about 7 seconds, then it stops... repeat for 25 megs |
| 10:23:46 | captain_parser | haha |
| 10:24:01 | vogon_jeltz | stops for about 7 seconds, too |
| 10:24:39 | captain_parser | is explaining why trojans are lame to some script kiddie |
| 10:24:41 | MrApathyCream | Hey, if we connect to their server through 1.7e4, client should spit out the server version as an error |
| 10:24:44 | MrApathyCream | right? |
| 10:24:55 | vogon_jeltz | yup |
| 10:25:01 | captain_parser | probably |
| 10:25:02 | MrApathyCream | assuming protocol isn't different |
| 10:25:07 | vogon_jeltz | unless it's one of the 1.7's |
| 10:25:28 | vogon_jeltz | MrApathyCream: if I had it on my box, I could always slap Ethereal on it |
| 10:25:39 | captain_parser | if it connects you can do a CLIENTQUERY |
| 10:25:51 | vogon_jeltz | captain_parser: not sure that's been around all that long |
| 10:26:05 | vogon_jeltz | captain_parser: either way, it should display its version when you start it |
| 10:26:09 | captain_parser | yes |
| 10:26:30 | MrApathyCream | injects an off-topic question... Why does CLIENTQUERY results get sent to everyone? |
| 10:27:00 | vogon_jeltz | because the netcode is CRAP |
| 10:27:04 | vogon_jeltz | :) |
| 10:27:14 | captain_parser | you can telnet to the server to and get BZFS107e or such |
| 10:27:28 | vogon_jeltz | I'll take a look at the netcode later |
| 10:27:30 | MrApathyCream | also the list server |
| 10:27:50 | captain_parser | vogon_jeltz: /me is working up a l33t-o new protocol |
| 10:27:54 | MrApathyCream | although perhaps list server didn't exist |
| 10:28:25 | vogon_jeltz | MrApathyCream: start up j00r old BZFlag demo server |
| 10:28:31 | vogon_jeltz | I'll get my telnet-fu on |
| 10:29:01 | vogon_jeltz | points out that he can slap ethereal on it, too >:) |
| 10:29:19 | captain_parser | 10 minutes to enterprise 112 :) |
| 10:29:23 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 10:30:00 | vogon_jeltz | whoa... that's odd |
| 10:30:07 | captain_parser | ? |
| 10:30:12 | vogon_jeltz | the chunk o' downloading lasted longer that time |
| 10:30:17 | captain_parser | lol |
| 10:31:13 | captain_parser | the lead singer in nightwish doesn't use a microphone most of the time!?!?! |
| 10:31:18 | captain_parser | is amazed |
| 10:31:51 | vogon_jeltz | wow |
| 10:32:00 | vogon_jeltz | hahaha |
| 10:32:04 | captain_parser | oh well i'm just gonna say their version is probably years out of date |
| 10:32:07 | vogon_jeltz | I bet the ancient BZFlag killed his system |
| 10:32:12 | captain_parser | hahaha |
| 10:32:48 | captain_parser | time to send it off? |
| 10:32:52 | captain_parser | care to take a gander first? |
| 10:33:11 | vogon_jeltz | nah, just send it |
| 10:33:40 | vogon_jeltz | bets that the demo in question was the Chris Schoeneman original... |
| 10:33:53 | vogon_jeltz | because there's a TIMEBOMB define in the makefile |
| 10:33:59 | captain_parser | watches it get whisked away by sendmail |
| 10:34:03 | captain_parser | hehehe |
| 10:34:07 | vogon_jeltz | that's there for no adequately-explored reason |
| 10:34:35 | vogon_jeltz | bets Schoeneman planned to sell it, but axed the plans when he transferred maintainership to Timmy |
| 10:35:11 | captain_parser | probably axed the plans when he realized that its not a terribly sellable game |
| 10:35:22 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 10:35:25 | captain_parser | OMFG |
| 10:35:32 | captain_parser | Thanks for your interest in Happy Puppy. Due to staffing changes, we |
| 10:35:32 | captain_parser | are currently unable to process this mail, it will NOT be read by anyone |
| 10:35:37 | vogon_jeltz | haha |
| 10:35:49 | vogon_jeltz | 0wned! |
| 10:35:57 | captain_parser | lol |
| 10:36:16 | vogon_jeltz | "We were expecting your question, so in short, FOAD, BZFlag-boy." |
| 10:36:49 | captain_parser | FOAD? |
| 10:36:58 | vogon_jeltz | F*** Off And Die |
| 10:37:02 | captain_parser | hahaha |
| 10:38:53 | vogon_jeltz | wonders where Mr. Creamed Apathy Goodness went |
| 10:40:37 | vogon_jeltz | "The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy, by Douglas Adams, starring Peter Jones as The Book." |
| 10:40:43 | captain_parser | lol |
| 10:40:59 | captain_parser | kind of like the credits in red dwarf sometimes... |
| 10:41:04 | captain_parser | Lister - some name |
| 10:41:07 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 10:41:08 | captain_parser | Rimmer - some name |
| 10:41:11 | captain_parser | Cat - some name |
| 10:41:14 | captain_parser | Toaster - some name |
| 10:41:17 | captain_parser | Suitcase - some name |
| 10:41:18 | captain_parser | etc |
| 10:41:31 | vogon_jeltz | they have that at the end of the fits, too... |
| 10:41:38 | captain_parser | the fits? |
| 10:42:05 | vogon_jeltz | "Zaphod Beeblebrox is currently starring in 'No Sex Please, We're *some odd word* *some other odd word*' at the Brantisvogan Star House." |
| 10:42:25 | vogon_jeltz | captain_parser: 'fits' are what DNA called the episodes |
| 10:42:50 | captain_parser | huh? |
| 10:43:16 | vogon_jeltz | the fake credits thing... oh, geez, just n/m... :P |
| 10:43:55 | vogon_jeltz | now has pretty much all of the first 5 fits |
| 10:44:09 | vogon_jeltz | I still have 4% of the 5th one to go |
| 10:45:17 | captain_parser | does a new enterprise dance |
| 10:45:23 | vogon_jeltz | erm, 3% |
| 10:47:10 | vogon_jeltz | 2% |
| 10:47:53 | captain_parser | thinks vogon_jeltz would be amazed at the variety of new and interesting dances captain_parser comes up with |
| 10:48:29 | vogon_jeltz | does the "my connection sucks so I can't download MPEGs of hour-long television shows in 10 minutes" dance |
| 10:48:50 | vogon_jeltz | 1% |
| 10:49:13 | captain_parser | goes to sleep |
| 10:50:00 | vogon_jeltz | whoo! only 100K left |
| 10:50:20 | vogon_jeltz | w00ts |
| 17:21:00 | | hello, Chestal |
| 17:21:00 | Chestal | hi |
| 17:21:04 | Chestal | names |
| 17:21:09 | | you know how it is |
| 17:21:09 | Chestal | ibot, how are you? |
| 17:21:17 | Chestal | ibot: is it hard to be a bot? |
| 17:21:26 | | Chestal: excuse me? |
| 17:21:26 | Chestal | ibot: heh, answer me! |
| 17:34:09 | vogon_jeltz | is away: sl33p |
| 20:57:26 | captain_parser | what is going on with this:?!? |
| 20:57:36 | captain_parser | // FIXME - only load one object of the type CustomWorld! |
| 20:57:36 | captain_parser | else if (strcmp(buffer, "world") == 0) |
| 20:57:36 | captain_parser | newObject = new CustomWorld(); |
| 21:14:56 | captain_parser | has bzfs.cxx open in 3 places in 1 vim :) |
| 21:29:17 | captain_parser | needs apathy to come back |
| 21:46:21 | captain_parser | this is so bizzare - #AmericanKenpo is getting lots of traffic *but only when i'm asleep* |
| 21:46:30 | captain_parser | looks like women too :) |