| 02:46:26 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 11:04:12) |
| 02:46:30 | captain_proton | wb |
| 02:46:34 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 02:46:42 | captain_proton | 11 hours of TV? yuk |
| 02:47:06 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 02:47:19 | vogon_jeltz | actually, more like 2 hours of TV, 8 hours of sleep, and then a trip to the dentist |
| 02:47:28 | captain_proton | i'm working on dropping jeff M's new rendering code in |
| 02:47:42 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 02:47:54 | vogon_jeltz | my Spam poetry has been modded up to 4, Funny on /. |
| 02:48:11 | captain_proton | isn't that a very old article? |
| 02:48:21 | vogon_jeltz | nope |
| 02:48:26 | vogon_jeltz | the results are new-ish |
| 02:48:30 | vogon_jeltz | the announcement is old |
| 02:49:23 | captain_proton | results? |
| 02:49:35 | vogon_jeltz | yeah |
| 02:49:50 | vogon_jeltz | I didn't win, so I posted my entry in the result announcement thread :P |
| 02:49:51 | captain_proton | brings up /. |
| 02:52:32 | captain_proton | the winner's poem is genius |
| 02:52:39 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 02:53:14 | vogon_jeltz | strictly spam or freestyle? |
| 02:53:25 | captain_proton | strictly spam |
| 02:53:36 | vogon_jeltz | IMHO, that's not all that great |
| 02:55:08 | captain_proton | thats just because your entry didn't win :) |
| 02:55:32 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 02:55:41 | vogon_jeltz | no, I'm serious... I don't like it all that much |
| 02:56:47 | vogon_jeltz | "Christina, How Could You Do This To Me?" is better, IMHO |
| 02:57:36 | captain_proton | you just don't appreciate vulgarity :) |
| 02:57:39 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 02:57:58 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.satirewire.com/features/poetry_spam/spam_winner.shtml <-- this is the best one of all of them I've seen |
| 02:58:25 | vogon_jeltz | Brazen Teen Bitches, / Take a serious look at your life. / And allow me to introduce / a powerful new substance / from the Electri-Cellular Industry. / Electrigel Creme |
| 02:58:47 | captain_proton | yeah i agree |
| 02:59:51 | vogon_jeltz | http://www.satirewire.com/features/poetry_spam/rap.shtml <-- this one is a close runner-up :) |
| 03:00:09 | vogon_jeltz | Don't delete this! SAVE IT! / Save the planet! Save THE TREES! / Our gorgeous teenage sluts ARE HOT / And so ready TO PLEASE! |
| 03:02:55 | vogon_jeltz | Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, / I will fear no evil: for thou art with me, / Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me. / And can now be 50 Percent Larger in Three Weeks. Guaranteed. |
| 03:03:59 | vogon_jeltz | Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me, / All the days of my life, / And I will dwell forever, / In the House of the Lord, / Which I shall refinanceth, / To take advantage, / Of the lowest mortgage rates in years. |
| 03:44:32 | captain_proton | hey JeffM2501 |
| 04:02:31 | JeffM2501 | hey |
| 04:27:04 | captain_proton | almost done converting everything over to the new rendering code |
| 04:28:53 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 04:29:29 | JeffM2501 | I'm presently going thru windows machine withdrawls :( |
| 04:34:43 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 04:35:08 | JeffM2501 | my main PC was a loaner P4 |
| 04:35:15 | JeffM2501 | I had to give it back |
| 04:35:19 | captain_proton | :( |
| 04:35:32 | captain_proton | my main machine is just a paid-for P4 :) |
| 04:35:48 | JeffM2501 | so I'm down to this linux machine and a PII-333 |
| 04:36:00 | JeffM2501 | I'm gonna get an Athalon XP soon |
| 04:36:21 | captain_proton | fun |
| 04:36:31 | JeffM2501 | should be |
| 04:36:50 | JeffM2501 | so now I'm geting windows installed on my "backup" windows machine |
| 04:37:31 | captain_proton | lol...i go through withdrawls when i'm forced to use a windows box ;) |
| 04:38:25 | JeffM2501 | I guess it's all what your used to |
| 04:38:33 | JeffM2501 | There are things I like about each of em |
| 04:39:05 | captain_proton | what do you like about windows? |
| 04:39:13 | JeffM2501 | moslty app that are on it |
| 04:39:32 | JeffM2501 | and programing for it is prety consistent |
| 04:39:41 | JeffM2501 | I could not live without photoshop |
| 04:39:51 | captain_proton | heh yeah |
| 04:39:56 | JeffM2501 | and I haven't found anything like dev studio on linux |
| 04:41:28 | JeffM2501 | but I guess the bigest thing I like on windows is the consistency of interface |
| 04:41:50 | captain_proton | anjusta.sourceforge.net |
| 04:44:24 | JeffM2501 | not found |
| 04:46:26 | captain_proton | oops |
| 04:46:32 | captain_proton | anjuta.sourceforge.net |
| 04:54:24 | JeffM2501 | interesting |
| 04:54:27 | JeffM2501 | I installed it |
| 04:54:34 | JeffM2501 | I'll have to take a look at it |
| 04:54:41 | JeffM2501 | I've also looked at Kdevelop |
| 04:54:42 | captain_proton | i've been stealing code from them for my latest project :) |
| 04:55:41 | JeffM2501 | it just bugs me that everyone has there own difrent interface, it gets confusing |
| 04:56:21 | captain_proton | well in linux there are 2 biggies - kde and gnome |
| 04:56:50 | captain_proton | i use almost all gnome apps, so i have a pretty consistent interface |
| 04:58:13 | JeffM2501 | KDE seems prety consistent too, but it seems that everyone who makes an app tweaks it a little |
| 04:58:27 | JeffM2501 | Gnome don't run so fast on my machine |
| 05:00:39 | captain_proton | well i don't run gnome, i just use gnome apps... |
| 05:00:59 | JeffM2501 | yeah I do too, I've been looking at GTK |
| 05:15:19 | captain_proton | hey timmy |
| 08:18:31 | vogon_jeltz | is away: watching Dean Kamen on Leno |
| 08:23:20 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:04:49) |
| 08:25:25 | captain_proton | wb |
| 08:25:31 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 08:25:31 | vogon_jeltz | hi |
| 08:25:40 | vogon_jeltz | those segway things are cool |
| 08:26:05 | captain_proton | yeah... |
| 08:26:35 | vogon_jeltz | watched their inventor, a semi-drunk Australian (?) guy (Russell Crowe), and a 50-something talkshow host zip around on them for a few minutes |
| 08:27:31 | captain_proton | me too |
| 08:27:41 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 08:27:50 | captain_proton | about an hour ago |
| 08:27:51 | vogon_jeltz | do you watch Conan O'Brien? |
| 08:27:59 | captain_proton | wait - 2 |
| 08:28:01 | captain_proton | no |
| 08:28:04 | vogon_jeltz | :/ |
| 08:28:53 | vogon_jeltz | goes to check if there's anyone playing TAC2, and if so, play it |
| 08:29:37 | vogon_jeltz | nope |
| 08:29:51 | vogon_jeltz | and it's a shame, as it's a damn good mod |
| 08:30:51 | vogon_jeltz | points out that it's the most fun you can have while sending virtual 4-passenger aircraft to their doom |
| 08:31:20 | captain_proton | ha |
| 08:31:27 | vogon_jeltz | especially if you destroy them at an altitude and you get to watch all of the passengers trying to avoid the inexplicably lethal ground |
| 08:32:20 | captain_proton | meh |
| 08:32:41 | vogon_jeltz | http://tac2.tribes-universe.com |
| 08:32:50 | vogon_jeltz | oh, and there are also 6-passenger aircraft :) |
| 08:33:23 | vogon_jeltz | the kicker is that you're trying to work as a team (the n-1 of you who can actually fire) to shoot down the enemy aircraft before they shoot down yours |
| 08:33:34 | vogon_jeltz | plus, you get to make big explosions ;) |
| 08:33:48 | captain_proton | the new link rendering is l33t |
| 08:34:12 | vogon_jeltz | do you have a working beta I can use to finish my world? |
| 08:35:06 | captain_proton | putting in the finishing touches (making links selectable) |
| 08:35:24 | vogon_jeltz | ahh |
| 08:37:11 | captain_proton | i'm not sure why they aren't |
| 08:53:50 | captain_proton | ooh this is annoying |
| 09:05:04 | captain_proton | omfg |
| 09:05:08 | captain_proton | my eyes just popped out |
| 09:05:22 | vogon_jeltz | why? |
| 09:05:46 | captain_proton | i setup a light and turned on lighting |
| 09:06:09 | captain_proton | still can't track down this link problem though |
| 09:10:42 | captain_proton | think i found it!! |
| 09:19:45 | captain_proton | ya here? |
| 09:20:36 | vogon_jeltz | yeh |
| 09:23:18 | captain_proton | your eyes will pop out |
| 09:23:20 | captain_proton | twice |
| 09:23:24 | captain_proton | 1) seeing the lighting |
| 09:23:27 | captain_proton | 2) seeing the links |
| 09:23:30 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 09:23:45 | vogon_jeltz | duct-tapes his eyes into their sockets |
| 09:24:39 | vogon_jeltz | crap... GTK+ is acting all lame |
| 09:24:59 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 09:25:51 | vogon_jeltz | a) none of the file-ops buttons work |
| 09:26:03 | vogon_jeltz | b) none of their corresponding menu options work, either |
| 09:26:06 | captain_proton | yes they do |
| 09:26:15 | vogon_jeltz | not here |
| 09:26:20 | captain_proton | sure its not just putting windows underneith the others? |
| 09:26:35 | vogon_jeltz | yeh |
| 09:26:42 | captain_proton | bizzare |
| 09:26:52 | captain_proton | restart X mebbie |
| 09:27:01 | captain_proton | UPTIME WARS! |
| 09:27:10 | captain_proton | 2:27am up 7 days, 2:59, 6 users, load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.02 |
| 09:27:23 | vogon_jeltz | 1:29am up 3 days, 9:17, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.19, 0.18 |
| 09:27:33 | vogon_jeltz | I had to shut down my box to put in my new vidcard |
| 09:27:43 | captain_proton | haha i know |
| 09:27:56 | captain_proton | i'm gonna need to shut down in the next couple days to move back into the dorms |
| 09:28:50 | vogon_jeltz | my uptime will 0wn j00rz then |
| 09:29:06 | vogon_jeltz | brb... restarting X to see if it fixes my GTK+ problems |
| 09:30:14 | captain_proton | and i'll probably reboot more often then because my asm class uses windows... |
| 09:30:17 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 09:30:33 | captain_proton | been waiting it hit enter for a minute or so... |
| 09:30:43 | vogon_jeltz | likes the All-Seeing Eye of NVidia splash screen for X |
| 09:30:51 | captain_proton | disabled it |
| 09:31:23 | vogon_jeltz | g00t... much better now |
| 09:33:20 | vogon_jeltz | on the plus side, my Ge2MX400 is now overclocked to 210/250 from 200/250, and I'm not seeing any problems yet :) |
| 09:33:55 | captain_proton | fun |
| 09:34:00 | captain_proton | like the lighting & links? |
| 09:34:10 | captain_proton | bzedit now officially has a better 3d engine than bzflag |
| 09:34:12 | vogon_jeltz | haven't looked yet |
| 09:34:37 | captain_proton | erm - thought you said the gtk stuff was fix0red? |
| 09:35:27 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 09:35:36 | vogon_jeltz | I was busy watching TV in a half-assed manner |
| 09:35:46 | captain_proton | ahh |
| 09:36:20 | vogon_jeltz | it's pretty l33t, I must say |
| 09:49:50 | vogon_jeltz | f0rk... we never fixed that "pyramids with z>0 render upside-down" bug |
| 09:50:06 | captain_proton | yes |
| 09:50:09 | captain_proton | its been fixed |
| 09:50:17 | vogon_jeltz | not as of 1.7e4 |
| 09:50:24 | captain_proton | uhm...yes it has |
| 09:50:50 | vogon_jeltz | then there's a bug in BZEdit |
| 09:50:56 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 09:51:09 | vogon_jeltz | pyramid |
| 09:51:09 | vogon_jeltz | position 357.58 -357.58 123 |
| 09:51:10 | vogon_jeltz | rotation 45 |
| 09:51:10 | vogon_jeltz | size 15 15 20 |
| 09:51:10 | vogon_jeltz | end |
| 09:51:19 | vogon_jeltz | take, for example, that pyramid: it renders upside-down |
| 09:51:28 | captain_proton | it does?!?! |
| 09:51:32 | captain_proton | in bzedit? |
| 09:51:37 | captain_proton | or in bzflag? |
| 09:51:40 | vogon_jeltz | in bzflag |
| 09:51:46 | captain_proton | oh hrm |
| 09:53:54 | vogon_jeltz | oh, n/m |
| 09:54:02 | vogon_jeltz | running an old version :P |
| 09:54:06 | captain_proton | hahaha |
| 09:54:18 | vogon_jeltz | tries out his l33t new FSAA-fu on BZFlag |
| 09:54:27 | captain_proton | FSAA? |
| 09:54:28 | captain_proton | ohh |
| 09:54:47 | captain_proton | care to remind me of the environment vars needed to set that up? |
| 09:56:04 | vogon_jeltz | export __GL_FSAA_MODE=f00 |
| 09:56:12 | vogon_jeltz | checks the values |
| 09:56:45 | vogon_jeltz | 1 = 2x2 oversampling with LOD bias |
| 09:56:50 | vogon_jeltz | 2 = 2x2 Quincunx |
| 09:56:57 | vogon_jeltz | 4 = 4x4 Bilinear |
| 09:57:02 | vogon_jeltz | 5 = 4x4 Gaussian |
| 09:57:20 | vogon_jeltz | (on your Ge3) |
| 09:57:22 | captain_proton | holy shiat bzedit looks like with AA |
| 09:58:27 | captain_proton | and bzedit actually has the engine to make FSAA have a reasonable framerate |
| 09:59:22 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 09:59:44 | captain_proton | mwahahaha |
| 10:01:19 | vogon_jeltz | tries out Tribes2 with FSAA |
| 10:01:28 | vogon_jeltz | it's gonna be slow as hell, but it'll look great ;) |
| 10:02:47 | captain_proton | lol |
| 10:05:38 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 10:05:47 | vogon_jeltz | 8fps, but it's one of the nicest-looking games out there |
| 10:06:04 | vogon_jeltz | (at 800x600x32, 2x2 oversampling FSAA) |
| 10:06:59 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... does texture compression improve or decrease framerate? |
| 10:09:07 | captain_proton | improve |
| 10:09:16 | vogon_jeltz | hmm |
| 10:09:32 | captain_proton | likes quincunx :) |
| 10:09:48 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 10:09:56 | vogon_jeltz | supersampling is so damn slow |
| 10:10:47 | vogon_jeltz | try 4x4 gaussian |
| 10:11:20 | captain_proton | thats what i'm on right now |
| 10:11:25 | captain_proton | but for games nothing beats quincunx |
| 10:11:34 | vogon_jeltz | what does gaussian look like? |
| 10:11:47 | captain_proton | gorgeus |
| 10:11:54 | vogon_jeltz | screenie me |
| 10:11:56 | captain_proton | *geous |
| 10:14:03 | captain_proton | going to accept? |
| 10:16:15 | captain_proton | 'lo? |
| 10:17:42 | vogon_jeltz | sorry... testing out RtCW on my new vidcard |
| 10:18:27 | vogon_jeltz | send again |
| 10:20:14 | vogon_jeltz | wonders how purty it is |
| 10:22:48 | vogon_jeltz | I've heard that, as pretty as nVidia quincunx FSAA is, ATI's "SmoothVISION" is better |
| 10:23:25 | captain_proton | thats because "SmoothVISION" is newer |
| 10:23:26 | captain_proton | soon as nvidia comes out with a new chip theirs will be on top again |
| 10:23:37 | captain_proton | its called "competition" |
| 10:23:53 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 10:24:29 | vogon_jeltz | patiently awaits the "SmootherVISION" (or whatever) tech the Ge4 has to offer |
| 10:24:30 | captain_proton | isn't that screenie perty? |
| 10:24:43 | vogon_jeltz | yup |
| 10:25:53 | captain_proton | :) |
| 10:26:39 | vogon_jeltz | mmm... adaptive supersampling |
| 10:27:20 | vogon_jeltz | mmmmmm... adaptive supersampling in hardware |
| 10:27:29 | captain_proton | lol |
| 10:28:35 | vogon_jeltz | assumes that cappy knows what adaptive supersampling is |
| 10:29:09 | captain_proton | yes |
| 10:29:10 | captain_proton | i wrote an app to frickin' do it a few years ago |
| 10:29:15 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 10:30:05 | captain_proton | i need to get to sleep |
| 10:30:06 | captain_proton | 'night |
| 10:30:12 | vogon_jeltz | nn |
| 14:42:11 | vogon_jeltz | is away: None of your business () :-) |
| 14:42:17 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:00:02) |
| 14:42:27 | vogon_jeltz | is away: reading |
| 18:09:05 | Valoche | hi there, I'm back! |
| 19:55:26 | xegsys | evening |
| 21:01:01 | captain_proton | wanders back in |
| 21:01:24 | captain_proton | w00! xchat 1.4.1 can be hijacked :) |
| 21:01:56 | captain_proton | wonders who zen_parse on bugtraq is... |
| 21:02:11 | captain_proton | in the few weeks i've been subscribed they've found 4 vulnerabilities |