| 03:40:51 | captain_proton | returns |
| 03:40:58 | vogon_jeltz | hi, cappy |
| 03:41:04 | captain_proton | hello vogon_jeltz |
| 03:43:24 | captain_proton | are you getting spammers in spanish? |
| 03:43:28 | vogon_jeltz | no |
| 03:43:33 | vogon_jeltz | heh... that's a worm ;) |
| 03:43:38 | vogon_jeltz | Sircam, IIRC |
| 03:43:52 | captain_proton | no - IRC spammers |
| 03:43:54 | captain_proton | speaking spanish |
| 03:43:57 | vogon_jeltz | oh, no |
| 03:44:00 | captain_proton | asking me to join various channels |
| 03:44:22 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, I haven't seen that |
| 03:45:30 | captain_proton | tries yet again to do a cvs diff |
| 03:46:22 | captain_proton | GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 03:46:47 | vogon_jeltz | lemme guess... it worked ;) |
| 03:48:25 | captain_proton | why the F*** won't cvs work?!?!? |
| 03:48:37 | vogon_jeltz | I don't know :/ |
| 03:50:12 | captain_proton | can you do a cvs diff -u? |
| 03:50:50 | vogon_jeltz | what with? :) |
| 03:55:33 | captain_proton | the bzflag tree |
| 03:59:45 | vogon_jeltz | I don't have any patches :/ |
| 04:03:25 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: it seems to work fine here :) |
| 04:03:37 | vogon_jeltz | did a diff -u with the HUD patch |
| 04:03:51 | captain_proton | screams |
| 04:04:37 | captain_proton | can you give me a diff -u off the current cvs with the rotatebases patch and send it to me?? |
| 04:04:50 | vogon_jeltz | argh... I gotta get the current CVS first |
| 04:05:44 | captain_proton | can wait |
| 04:10:05 | vogon_jeltz | what happens when you try to do a cvs diff -u? |
| 04:11:30 | captain_proton | it gets to win32, then i get this: |
| 04:12:35 | captain_proton | cvs server: Diffing win32 |
| 04:12:35 | captain_proton | usw-pr-cvs.sourceforge.net: Connection refused |
| 04:12:36 | captain_proton | cvs [diff aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 04:12:45 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 04:14:48 | captain_proton | its been doing this all afternoon |
| 04:19:03 | vogon_jeltz | now, is the patch you want me to diff a standalone patch? |
| 04:19:44 | vogon_jeltz | (does it depend on my patches at all) |
| 04:22:23 | vogon_jeltz | heh... it worked |
| 04:23:59 | captain_proton | so this is standalone? |
| 04:24:09 | vogon_jeltz | it should be :/ |
| 04:24:16 | captain_proton | will check |
| 04:24:33 | vogon_jeltz | and, may I just say, that is some of the messiest code that I've ever seen... :) |
| 04:25:38 | captain_proton | you did do cvs diff -u?? |
| 04:26:07 | vogon_jeltz | yes |
| 04:26:21 | captain_proton | you sure? looks like just 'cvs diff' |
| 04:26:48 | vogon_jeltz | diff -u -r1.3 Obstacle.h |
| 04:26:56 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 04:27:23 | captain_proton | ohhh - try again but apply the patch when your PWD is bzflag/.. |
| 04:28:08 | captain_proton | basically this: |
| 04:28:18 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, I already did it |
| 04:28:25 | captain_proton | cvs co bzflag; patch -p0 < rotatebases.patch; cd bzflag; cvs diff -u > ../rotatebases2.patch |
| 04:28:46 | captain_proton | please? |
| 04:28:56 | vogon_jeltz | dude, I'm already doing it |
| 04:29:03 | captain_proton | :):):):) |
| 04:30:37 | captain_proton | is going to show a friend how to really compile a kernel |
| 04:30:40 | captain_proton | thanks for the diffing :) |
| 04:30:43 | vogon_jeltz | np |
| 04:30:58 | vogon_jeltz | which friend? :) |
| 05:22:22 | sekn | vogon_jeltz: did you send me that patch again? |
| 05:22:39 | sekn | (me is captain_proton at the moment) |
| 05:25:02 | vogon_jeltz | no, I only sent it the 2 times |
| 05:26:57 | sekn | can you send me the 2nd? |
| 05:27:26 | sekn | (here, not captain_proton) |
| 05:27:32 | vogon_jeltz | doh |
| 05:28:06 | sekn | thanks |
| 05:32:54 | sekn | damn he left |
| 05:33:49 | sekn | vogon_jeltz: can you do cvs diff -Nru?? |
| 05:33:51 | sekn | plz? |
| 05:34:15 | sekn | (my cvs is setup better than yours :) |
| 05:34:34 | vogon_jeltz | working right now |
| 05:38:34 | vogon_jeltz | sekn: heh... it gives me "no such tag u" |
| 05:38:43 | vogon_jeltz | sekn: what version of CVS are you using? :) |
| 05:39:20 | sekn | let me check |
| 05:39:32 | sekn | 1.11-3 |
| 05:39:44 | vogon_jeltz | hmm |
| 05:39:55 | vogon_jeltz | same here, but diff -Nru doesn't work |
| 05:41:03 | sekn | huh... |
| 05:41:53 | sekn | what version of diff do you have? |
| 05:42:12 | vogon_jeltz | 2.7-21 |
| 05:42:31 | sekn | you're positive you're using 'cvs diff -u'?!?!?!?!?!?! |
| 05:42:38 | vogon_jeltz | yes |
| 05:42:43 | vogon_jeltz | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag diff -Nru > rotatebases.patch |
| 05:44:49 | sekn | hmmmm |
| 05:45:11 | sekn | just do this in succession: |
| 05:45:25 | sekn | export CVSROOT=":pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag" |
| 05:45:28 | sekn | cvs co bzflag |
| 05:45:34 | sekn | patch -p0 < rotatebases.patch |
| 05:45:35 | sekn | cd bzflag |
| 05:45:38 | vogon_jeltz | I've already done that... |
| 05:45:41 | sekn | cvs diff -u > ../rotatebases2.patch |
| 05:45:49 | sekn | your diff isn't in unified (-u) format |
| 05:45:51 | vogon_jeltz | and that's what I sent you last time |
| 05:45:55 | vogon_jeltz | yes, it is |
| 05:46:01 | sekn | no, trust me, it isn't |
| 05:46:19 | vogon_jeltz | yes, trust me, it is |
| 05:46:38 | sekn | if it were in unified format it wouldn't have these: |
| 05:46:48 | sekn | Index: include/Obstacle.h |
| 05:46:49 | sekn | =================================================================== |
| 05:46:49 | sekn | RCS file: /cvsroot/bzflag/bzflag/include/Obstacle.h,v |
| 05:48:11 | vogon_jeltz | all of my other patches have that, and you haven't complained before... |
| 05:48:27 | vogon_jeltz | in fact, nobody has |
| 05:48:39 | sekn | the problem is that it's not including new files in it... |
| 05:48:42 | sekn | one moment... |
| 05:49:04 | sekn | try this: |
| 05:49:08 | sekn | cvs diff -u --new-file |
| 05:49:45 | vogon_jeltz | working... |
| 05:52:57 | sekn | no luck |
| 05:53:12 | vogon_jeltz | hmm |
| 05:53:33 | sekn | wishes sourceforge would behave |
| 05:53:45 | vogon_jeltz | what's your uptime there? :) |
| 05:54:48 | sekn | 4 days, 13:39 |
| 05:54:59 | vogon_jeltz | damn... mine's only 3 days, 2:33 |
| 06:12:09 | captain_proton | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 07:34:10 | BZFlag | cvs does not seem to pickup new files in diffs. The only way I've found to do that is checkout a new tree somplace else and diff the two trees with non-cvs diff. |
| 07:35:22 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 07:35:34 | vogon_jeltz | up for a midnight snack, are you? ;) |
| 07:38:46 | BZFlag | packaging a lot of phones for shipment tomorrow. |
| 07:38:55 | vogon_jeltz | heh... cool |
| 07:41:14 | BZFlag | heh |
| 07:41:16 | vogon_jeltz | hey, what was that for? |
| 07:41:36 | BZFlag | seemed the right thing to do at the time. |
| 07:41:37 | vogon_jeltz | OK... the bot doesn't really need ops :) |
| 07:42:06 | | :) |
| 07:42:06 | vogon_jeltz | ibot, botsnack |
| 07:42:19 | | Slashdot - Updated 2001-10-23 07:55:57 | Ten Years of Apple PowerBooks | Sony Annouces Linux PS2 Port for US | Slashdot Updates | Disney's Anti-File Swapping Cartoon |
| 07:42:19 | BZFlag | ibot: slashdot |
| 07:42:48 | vogon_jeltz | heh... "The radar looks great when it works!" |
| 07:44:25 | vogon_jeltz | cranks up Tribes2 for some mapping |
| 10:12:12 | vogon_jeltz | is away: watching TV and pondering T2 map ideas |
| 12:11:49 | Chestal | re |
| 12:49:38 | captain_proton | bitchslaps sourceforge.net |
| 13:23:30 | Chestal | captain: it's workign fine for me, I did a typo yesterday (CVR_RSH instead of CVS_RSH) |
| 13:55:40 | captain_proton | when i use CVS_RSH, I get this: |
| 13:55:52 | captain_proton | cvs server: Diffing win32 |
| 13:55:52 | captain_proton | davidtrowbridge@cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net's password: |
| 13:55:52 | captain_proton | cvs server: Diffing src |
| 13:55:52 | captain_proton | cvs server: Diffing src/common |
| 13:55:52 | captain_proton | cvs [diff aborted]: shutting down connection to cvs.bzflag.sourceforge.net: Bad file descriptor |
| 13:56:07 | captain_proton | i have no clue what is so special about win32 |
| 13:59:08 | Chestal | hmm, ok, I only tried to diff one file |
| 13:59:42 | captain_proton | i'm trying to do 'cvs diff -u' |
| 14:00:25 | Chestal | why win32? |
| 14:01:32 | captain_proton | i don't know - thats the magic directory i guess |
| 14:02:31 | captain_proton | checks out the source again |
| 14:02:37 | Chestal | when do you get the line "cvs server: Diffing win32" ? |
| 14:03:55 | captain_proton | when I do a 'cvs diff -u' in the tree root |
| 14:04:33 | Chestal | hmm |
| 14:05:15 | captain_proton | argh now it works but its not in unified format |
| 14:06:17 | Chestal | works for me with -u |
| 14:06:44 | captain_proton | normally it does for me too |
| 14:07:02 | captain_proton | but its not realizing that i'm passing it options |
| 14:08:30 | captain_proton | argh |
| 14:08:37 | captain_proton | goes to take a nap |
| 15:13:14 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 05:01:00) |
| 15:50:19 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: why won't my diff unify? |
| 15:50:48 | vogon_jeltz | heh... I don't know |
| 15:50:57 | vogon_jeltz | use duct tape |
| 17:10:12 | captain_proton | grrrrr |
| 17:10:15 | captain_proton | is pissed |
| 17:14:31 | Chestal | is this kind of telemarketing legal? |
| 17:14:42 | vogon_jeltz | hehehe |
| 17:32:11 | captain_proton | the kind i'm interested in? |
| 17:32:12 | captain_proton | no |
| 17:37:50 | captain_proton | oh damn |
| 17:37:53 | captain_proton | feels stupid |
| 17:39:49 | vogon_jeltz | hehe |
| 17:39:57 | vogon_jeltz | you'll get used to it |
| 17:40:23 | captain_proton | i forgot about how cvs diff won't diff any new files since they aren't in the repository |
| 17:42:38 | BZFlag | chechk out a second copy of the cvs tree and diff the two trees. |
| 17:42:49 | captain_proton | i just did |
| 17:47:14 | captain_proton | submits an updated rotated bases patch |
| 18:08:49 | captain_proton | goes to do his algos homework |
| 18:14:15 | captain_proton | damn i'm gonna have to go to the lab to run this |
| 18:15:20 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 18:16:53 | captain_proton | stupid TA wrote the skeleton using a proprietary toolkit |
| 18:17:47 | captain_proton | they have a linux version, but its commercial >| |
| 18:18:01 | vogon_jeltz | ooh, that sucks |
| 18:18:17 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 18:18:23 | captain_proton | maybe i'll just use a normal int |
| 18:18:41 | vogon_jeltz | ha |
| 18:20:06 | captain_proton | well, the algorithm doesn't change... |
| 18:20:29 | captain_proton | it just isn't as useful without integrating an arbitrary-precision int |
| 18:38:17 | captain_proton | is confused why his computer is claiming that the powers of 2 are prime |
| 18:38:39 | vogon_jeltz | heheh |
| 18:38:45 | vogon_jeltz | that's pretty weak, man |
| 18:38:58 | captain_proton | stupid algorithm |
| 18:42:36 | captain_proton | 2 |
| 18:42:36 | captain_proton | 3 |
| 18:42:37 | captain_proton | 4 |
| 18:42:38 | captain_proton | 8 |
| 18:42:39 | captain_proton | 16 |
| 18:42:40 | captain_proton | 32 |
| 18:42:42 | captain_proton | 64 |
| 18:42:43 | captain_proton | |
| 18:42:53 | captain_proton | bet ya didn't know those were the primes < 100 |
| 18:42:58 | vogon_jeltz | those are some l33t prime numbers ;) |
| 18:43:19 | vogon_jeltz | run the Sieve of Eratosthenes |
| 18:44:03 | vogon_jeltz | wanna see my new T2 map-in-progress? :) |
| 18:44:59 | captain_proton | sieve of eratosthenes? |
| 18:45:12 | vogon_jeltz | yeah, the cheap-ass prime number thing |
| 18:45:40 | vogon_jeltz | essentially, you write down the numbers from 1 to 100, then eliminate any multiples of 2, 3, 5, or 7 (except for themselves) |
| 18:46:03 | vogon_jeltz | the remaining numbers are prime |
| 18:46:13 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 18:46:21 | captain_proton | is using the miller-rabin primality test |
| 18:46:31 | vogon_jeltz | ahh... enlighten me |
| 18:46:51 | vogon_jeltz | has never heard of it, except possibly in passing |
| 18:47:25 | captain_proton | it works for numbers of hundreds of digits, so its cool |
| 18:47:33 | vogon_jeltz | ahh... sweet :) |
| 18:47:41 | captain_proton | (part of RSA) |
| 18:47:55 | vogon_jeltz | yep, that's where I'd heard about it :) |
| 18:48:16 | vogon_jeltz | has the RSA def somewhere |
| 18:48:19 | captain_proton | well, it would be sweet if it weren't spitting out powers of 2 |
| 18:49:03 | |ks| | does it find truly prime numbers? I though RSA wasn't that strict about primality; just wants reasonably prime numbers (very few factors) |
| 18:49:17 | captain_proton | well... |
| 18:49:20 | captain_proton | that depends |
| 18:49:26 | captain_proton | it never knows for sure |
| 18:49:40 | captain_proton | but if you run it enough times on any given number it can tell you with reasonable certainty |
| 18:50:01 | captain_proton | BZFlag: why is miller-rabin telling me that the powers of 2 are prime?? |
| 18:50:23 | BZFlag | uh, cause he's wrong? |
| 18:50:27 | vogon_jeltz | haha |
| 18:50:55 | captain_proton | kicks his algorithms textbook across the floor |
| 18:51:25 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... |
| 18:51:46 | BZFlag | many powers of 2 - 1 are prime. but not all. |
| 18:51:50 | vogon_jeltz | loves trying to prove that 1 = 2 |
| 18:52:14 | vogon_jeltz | that's a fun proof to write... and most people don't catch the mistake until too late ;) |
| 18:52:42 | BZFlag | I like 1 + 1 = 3 for large values of 1 |
| 18:52:42 | |ks| | http://www.cryptomathic.com/labs/rabinprimalitytest.html : tried a few powers of 2 and it comes back ok |
| 18:53:13 | |ks| | but that means 2 + 2 = 6, and I was sure the correct answer was 5 |
| 18:53:18 | captain_proton | goes to class |
| 18:53:20 | vogon_jeltz | haha |
| 18:53:24 | |ks| | oh wait, unless 3 + 3 = 5 |
| 18:54:05 | |ks| | on a bz-related note, has the new HUD been checked into CVS? |
| 18:54:50 | |ks| | or is it just a prototype in someone's play area? |
| 18:56:03 | vogon_jeltz | it's cappy's project |
| 18:56:44 | BZFlag | it should be posted as a SF patch, but I don't think it is yet. |
| 18:56:48 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: heh... we had this argument in math class in 10th grade: does .9 repeating equal 1? :) |
| 18:57:26 | BZFlag | vogon_jeltz: it does not, but nothing can tell the difference. ;-) |
| 18:57:29 | vogon_jeltz | haha |
| 18:57:36 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: I argued that it does |
| 18:57:52 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: .1rep = 1/9; .9rep = 9/9; 9/9 = 1 |
| 18:58:02 | BZFlag | well, then you can't tell the difference, so perhaps you are nothing? |
| 18:58:25 | |ks| | vogon: it does, but it's really annoying =) |
| 18:58:29 | BZFlag | oh, if you can't tell I guess you can't be nothing. |
| 18:58:38 | vogon_jeltz | BZFlag: 1*.9rep = .9rep; 10*.9rep = 9.9rep; 9*.9rep = 9; .9rep = 1 |
| 18:58:41 | BZFlag | cause nothing can.. |
| 18:59:39 | vogon_jeltz | the most entertaining argument we heard against involved "multiple infinities" |
| 18:59:40 | BZFlag | I like the: .1rep = 1/9; .9rep = 9/9; 9/9 = 1 ;-) |
| 18:59:48 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 19:00:21 | vogon_jeltz | the whole thing escalated to almost holy-war proportions |
| 19:01:34 | vogon_jeltz | our side actually considered printing up t-shirts |
| 19:02:44 | |ks| | in 8th grade we used systems of equations: 10x = 9.999...; x = .999...; subtract to get 9x = 9, so x = 9/9 |
| 19:02:51 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 19:03:15 | vogon_jeltz | we also used calculus :P |
| 19:03:39 | vogon_jeltz | I forget exactly how it went, tho :/ |
| 19:04:42 | captain_proton | piano class was cancelled |
| 19:06:23 | captain_proton | goes back to his "l33t primes" |
| 19:13:24 | captain_proton | wonders where everybody went |
| 19:14:05 | vogon_jeltz | I'm here |
| 19:14:12 | vogon_jeltz | ...somewhat... |
| 19:15:22 | |ks| | hey capn, you have a patch around somewhere with your HUD? |
| 19:15:34 | captain_proton | probably |
| 19:15:47 | captain_proton | keep in mind my HUD is about 5% done |
| 19:17:11 | |ks| | ah, i've seen the screenshots, thought that was it... you adding other features? |
| 19:22:50 | captain_proton | i will be |
| 19:22:56 | captain_proton | i have yet to move stuff around |
| 19:25:51 | captain_proton | i'm planning on adding a compass and vogon_jeltz's GM lock detector |
| 19:26:10 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 19:26:17 | vogon_jeltz | once I get it un-borked, that is |
| 19:26:24 | captain_proton | yes |
| 19:26:55 | |ks| | swedish chef detector? |
| 19:29:08 | vogon_jeltz | this map is looking l33ter and l33ter, but I've gotta take a 0xf00d break |
| 19:30:04 | captain_proton | YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
| 19:30:30 | |ks| | sprung a leak? |
| 19:30:36 | captain_proton | no |
| 19:30:42 | captain_proton | rabin-miller is working :) |
| 19:30:42 | vogon_jeltz | <captain_proton> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
| 19:30:56 | captain_proton | no applicants for my stalker job |
| 19:31:06 | vogon_jeltz | is away: 0xf00d |
| 19:31:25 | vogon_jeltz | stalk rabin and miller :) |
| 19:31:33 | captain_proton | no - they made a decent algorithm |
| 19:31:45 | vogon_jeltz | (assuming you implemented it right) :) |
| 19:32:09 | captain_proton | i did - got all the primes from 4-100 |
| 19:32:25 | captain_proton | next week i get to do euclid's algorithm |
| 19:32:36 | captain_proton | BZFlag: around? |
| 19:35:07 | captain_proton | tests out rotated/elevated bases |
| 19:35:52 | captain_proton | starts listening to Emil Hartmann's cello concerto |
| 19:37:33 | captain_proton | awww shoot |
| 19:37:51 | vogon_jeltz | awe chute |
| 19:40:00 | captain_proton | found a bug in elevated bases |
| 19:40:06 | captain_proton | shots don't ricochet off them |
| 19:40:25 | vogon_jeltz | is back (gone 00:09:18) |
| 19:40:38 | |ks| | oops |
| 19:41:01 | captain_proton | fixed :) |
| 19:41:38 | |ks| | now, if only you could aim down and rico underneath them =) |
| 19:41:45 | captain_proton | heh |
| 19:41:55 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: can I make you a patch and you help test? |
| 19:42:22 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... I'm kinda busy with Tribes2, and I'm expecting my computer to segfault any minute now :/ |
| 19:42:33 | vogon_jeltz | s/segfault/freeze |
| 19:42:51 | |ks| | starts a fire |
| 19:42:51 | captain_proton | why expecting it? |
| 19:42:56 | captain_proton | heh |
| 19:43:00 | vogon_jeltz | haha |
| 19:43:43 | vogon_jeltz | it's just that when Tribes2 dumps core (which it has already done twice), something in the graphics state goes crazy and my box crashes randomly whenever I run a 3D proggy |
| 19:44:05 | captain_proton | lol |
| 19:44:32 | vogon_jeltz | I can *theoretically* work around the core dumps (they're caused by doing something stupid but time-saving), but... :/ |
| 19:45:36 | vogon_jeltz | in addition, running the program through strace (with output piped to /dev/null) seems to keep it from happening |
| 19:45:39 | |ks| | you save time by having your computer freeze up? |
| 19:45:50 | vogon_jeltz | |ks|: it's a Tribes2 editor thing |
| 19:45:53 | captain_proton | damn |
| 19:45:59 | captain_proton | wrote a lot of code for rotated bases |
| 19:46:06 | vogon_jeltz | |ks|: you have to choose a certain object placement rule to keep it from happening |
| 19:46:21 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: I'll try it if you want, but I may freeze up at any time :) |
| 19:47:49 | vogon_jeltz | |ks|: but if you *don't* use that rule, you save quite a bit of time |
| 19:48:49 | vogon_jeltz | captain_proton: OK, I'm ready to go |
| 19:48:59 | captain_proton | ok: babylonia.flatirons.org:5156 |
| 19:49:05 | vogon_jeltz | got it |
| 19:50:28 | captain_proton | sure? |
| 19:50:42 | captain_proton | thinks vogon_jeltz crashed |
| 19:51:08 | vogon_jeltz | I can't connect |
| 19:51:29 | captain_proton | you can't?? |
| 19:51:33 | vogon_jeltz | nope |
| 19:51:43 | captain_proton | try getting to it from the server list ("CTF test") |
| 20:03:10 | captain_proton | ahhh - found it |
| 20:04:13 | vogon_jeltz | hmm... I need 2 more cans to finish my 4-can-base triangular pyramid |
| 20:05:07 | captain_proton | ? |
| 20:06:09 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 20:06:18 | captain_proton | damn i have to do some analytic geometry |
| 20:07:17 | captain_proton | care to come up with the math to determine if a player is inside a rotated base? |
| 20:07:50 | vogon_jeltz | heh... I already did... I nuked my source tree accidentally, tho |
| 20:08:13 | vogon_jeltz | I'll work on it a bit later (hopefully I can dig up the crap that I wrote down last time) |
| 20:11:13 | captain_proton | might it have something to do with this:? |
| 20:11:19 | |ks| | capn: where's the current function? |
| 20:11:30 | |ks| | I've got time to kill =) |
| 20:11:33 | captain_proton | base[0] + hypotf(base[4], base[5]) * cosf(M_PI / 2.0f - base[3] + 5.0f / 4.0f * M_PI), base[1] + hypotf(base[4], base[5]) * sinf(M_PI / 2.0f - base[3] + 5.0f / 4.0f * M_PI)); |
| 20:11:37 | vogon_jeltz | yep |
| 20:11:51 | captain_proton | sobs |
| 20:12:29 | captain_proton | let me paste it |ks| (easier than sending you loads of patched stuff) |
| 20:12:46 | vogon_jeltz | rm -rf / |
| 20:33:28 | |ks| | dusts off his computer graphics book... *cough* *wheeze* |
| 20:57:57 | captain_proton | returns momentarily |
| 20:58:07 | vogon_jeltz | wb |
| 20:59:00 | captain_proton | thanks |
| 21:02:10 | captain_proton | vogon_jeltz: i'm gonna start up my test server again - can you join? |
| 21:02:34 | vogon_jeltz | heh... I'm in the middle of mapping |
| 21:02:59 | captain_proton | please?? |ks| did some good work i think |
| 21:03:32 | vogon_jeltz | I'd love to, but I can't stop mapping right now or my box might crash :P |
| 21:03:40 | captain_proton | argh |
| 21:04:13 | |ks| | can connect for a few, as long as you don't mind a TCP connection (I'm behind a firewall :{) |
| 21:11:27 | captain_proton | it didn't work |
| 21:12:13 | captain_proton | oh i think i see the problem |
| 21:12:17 | captain_proton | but i have class to go to |
| 21:12:17 | |ks| | damn |
| 21:12:21 | captain_proton | i'll fix it when i return |
| 21:12:26 | captain_proton | good work though... |
| 21:13:39 | vogon_jeltz | hah |
| 21:13:42 | vogon_jeltz | bye |
| 21:26:22 | BZFlag | is trying fw tricks. |
| 21:26:31 | BZFlag | join me on rikers.org:6667 ? |
| 21:31:56 | BZFlag | hmmm... |
| 21:32:02 | BZFlag | did you see me at all? |
| 21:32:11 | BZFlag | looks like udp issues.... |
| 21:32:13 | |ks| | yes |
| 21:32:20 | |ks| | did not have UDP turned on |
| 21:32:23 | BZFlag | was I moving and shooting or just there? |
| 21:32:46 | |ks| | I didn't see any shots... |
| 21:33:39 | BZFlag | well looks I have not cracked the fw yet. |
| 21:33:45 | BZFlag | try rikers.org:5155 |
| 21:33:54 | |ks| | what are you trying to do? |
| 21:35:06 | |ks| | needs to learn to write a masquerading module for bz... |
| 21:40:45 | BZFlag | ug. no good. |
| 21:41:09 | BZFlag | I have a vpn setup to rikers.org so I was just trying to get gaming working over that connection. |
| 21:41:35 | BZFlag | I expect that something is trying to be smart about compression and really screwing up game play. |
| 21:42:08 | BZFlag | bz should not need a custom masq module any more for the client. |
| 21:42:29 | BZFlag | the server needs a few fixes and then it will not need masq hacks either. |
| 21:59:36 | captain_proton | returns |
| 22:01:28 | captain_proton | BZFlag: you there? |
| 22:01:31 | captain_proton | or vogon_jeltz? |
| 22:01:47 | vogon_jeltz | I'm here... but still mapping |
| 22:02:04 | captain_proton | smacks vogon_jeltz |
| 22:05:44 | vogon_jeltz | owww.... |
| 22:36:01 | BZFlag | IS HERE |
| 22:36:21 | BZFlag | eek, and has caps on. |
| 22:46:26 | BZFlag | anyone fixed the radar patch yet? ;-) |
| 22:47:27 | vogon_jeltz | heh |
| 22:47:33 | vogon_jeltz | I'm busy Tribes2 mapping |
| 22:51:57 | BZFlag | |ks|: wb. I was testing ppp over ssh vpn. works but way to slow. |
| 22:57:47 | |ks| | ah, i c |
| 22:59:01 | |ks| | do you know of anyone writing a bz masquerading module? I took a look at the API a few months ago, but it looked annoying, so I never actually tried to write one =) |
| 23:06:33 | BZFlag | |ks|: please don't. The current version should work through masq without issues. |
| 23:07:20 | BZFlag | ie: the 1.7e2 client behind a masq tunnel will be able to talk to 1.7e2 servers outside over both tcp and udp |
| 23:07:35 | BZFlag | no module needed. |
| 23:08:06 | BZFlag | the reverse is not tru yet, but the server should be fixed such that is is rather than writing a module |
| 23:08:22 | BZFlag | bzfrelay also needs udp support at some point. |
| 23:09:58 | BZFlag | but if we fix the server bzfrelay will no longer be needed. a simple tcp/udp port redirector will work. |
| 23:16:40 | |ks| | but there are servers that refuse to allow people to play w/o UDP, which won't work through ipmasq without help |
| 23:17:31 | |ks| | and although I can't prove it, the game feels better to me since UDP was added |
| 23:18:09 | |ks| | wait a sec... the client *can* do udp through ipmasq? I thought the server sent the first udp packet? |
| 23:19:02 | BZFlag | |ks|: I fixed udp ipmasq in 1.7e2 server release. |
| 23:19:19 | BZFlag | try udp on rikers.org:6667 |
| 23:19:22 | BZFlag | should work. |
| 23:19:47 | BZFlag | the server sends the connect info, but that's over tcp. |
| 23:20:07 | BZFlag | the old server expected to only get a connect from a given port on the client. |
| 23:20:25 | BZFlag | and the old server opened one udp listen port for each client. |
| 23:20:38 | |ks| | ah, so it does... |
| 23:20:42 | BZFlag | the new (1.7e2) code that I wrote only opens one port for udp |
| 23:20:53 | |ks| | i think I first thought about making a module pre e2 |
| 23:21:14 | BZFlag | and it replies to wherever the first udp packet comes from instead of trying to figure that out itself. |
| 23:21:39 | BZFlag | yes. franks 1.7fx had a number of udp fw issues that were broken. |
| 23:21:56 | BZFlag | all the udp ones are fixed now. the tcp ones remain. |
| 23:22:29 | BZFlag | so if you turn on udp to pre 1.7e2 servers, none of you udp packets will get there. |
| 23:22:54 | BZFlag | hmm... actually it's the reverse. |
| 23:23:06 | BZFlag | your udp packets will get there, but none will come back |
| 23:23:50 | |ks| | right, i remember that well... |
| 23:24:02 | |ks| | oh wait, this means I can close down those ports on my firewall! hooray! |
| 23:24:15 | BZFlag | which ports? the 17000 or so? yes. |
| 23:24:37 | BZFlag | the server now listens on the same udp port as the initial tcp port. |
| 23:24:57 | BZFlag | the new server (hopefully in 1.7e4) will only ever listen on one tcp port as well. |
| 23:25:34 | |ks| | it uses more than one port now? |
| 23:25:55 | BZFlag | yes. the server listens on 5155 and then tells each client to reconnect on a new port number. |
| 23:26:13 | BZFlag | the new server will do the reconnect (ugh) but to the same port number. |
| 23:26:30 | BZFlag | then I'll fix the client so it does not need to disconnect/reconnect |
| 23:26:48 | BZFlag | this is all old broken net code stuff I've been rewriting. |
| 23:27:27 | |ks| | oh yeah, the whole double-connect thing... |
| 23:31:03 | BZFlag | yeah, and the playerid is just the serverip:port:0 so that's the hack I'm doing first, changing the playerids on the fly in the server. |