irclog2html for bzflag on 2001.08.09

irclog2html for bzflag on 2001.08.09 00:29:14 vogon_jeltz hey, pistachio 00:29:21 vogon_jeltz is in a pasting mood 00:29:39 vogon_jeltz management, n.: 00:29:39 vogon_jeltz The art of getting other people to do all the work. 00:29:44 vogon_jeltz "I prefer rogues to imbeciles, because they sometimes take a rest." 00:29:44 vogon_jeltz -- Alexandre Dumas (fils) 00:29:48 vogon_jeltz All the taxes paid over a lifetime by the average American are spent by 00:29:48 vogon_jeltz the government in less than a second. 00:29:48 vogon_jeltz -- Jim Fiebig 00:29:50 vogon_jeltz Nondeterminism means never having to say you are wrong. 00:29:53 vogon_jeltz When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. 00:29:53 vogon_jeltz But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute -- and it's longer than any 00:29:53 vogon_jeltz hour. That's relativity. 00:29:54 vogon_jeltz -- Albert Einstein 00:29:58 vogon_jeltz hahaha 00:30:09 vogon_jeltz hahaha 00:30:14 vogon_jeltz oops 00:30:16 vogon_jeltz Be valiant, but not too venturous. 00:30:16 vogon_jeltz Let thy attire be comely, but not costly. 00:30:16 vogon_jeltz -- John Lyly 00:30:18 vogon_jeltz BASIC, n.: 00:30:19 vogon_jeltz A programming language. Related to certain social diseases in 00:30:19 vogon_jeltz that those who have it will not admit it in polite company. 00:30:25 vogon_jeltz laf 00:30:28 vogon_jeltz laf 00:30:31 vogon_jeltz argh 00:30:38 vogon_jeltz my brain doesn't work today 00:30:40 vogon_jeltz The brain is a wonderful organ; it starts working the moment you get up 00:30:41 vogon_jeltz in the morning, and does not stop until you get to work. 00:30:47 vogon_jeltz "'Tis true, 'tis pity, and pity 'tis 'tis true." 00:30:47 vogon_jeltz -- Poloniouius, in Willie the Shake's _Hamlet, Prince of Darkness_ 00:30:49 vogon_jeltz The way to fight a woman is with your hat. Grab it and run. 00:30:53 vogon_jeltz Q:What is purple and concord the world? 00:30:53 vogon_jeltz A:Alexander the Grape. 00:31:03 vogon_jeltz :) 00:31:05 vogon_jeltz Education is learning what you didn't even know you didn't know. 00:31:05 vogon_jeltz -- Daniel J. Boorstin 00:31:07 vogon_jeltz Macho does not prove mucho. 00:31:07 vogon_jeltz -- Zsa Zsa Gabor 00:31:08 vogon_jeltz Do not think by infection, catching an opinion like a cold. 00:31:14 vogon_jeltz Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat. 00:31:15 vogon_jeltz -- John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy, 1981-1987 00:31:17 vogon_jeltz Matter will be damaged in direct proportion to its value. 00:31:19 vogon_jeltz For men use, if they have an evil turn, to write it in marble: 00:31:19 vogon_jeltz and whoso doth us a good turn we write it in dust. 00:31:19 vogon_jeltz -- Sir Thomas More 00:31:23 vogon_jeltz Use an accordion. Go to jail. 00:31:23 vogon_jeltz -- KFOG, San Francisco 00:31:26 vogon_jeltz You have an ambitious nature and may make a name for yourself. 00:31:30 vogon_jeltz All I know is what the words know, and dead things, and that 00:31:30 vogon_jeltz makes a handsome little sum, with a beginning and a middle and 00:31:30 vogon_jeltz an end, as in the well-built phrase and the long sonata of the dead. 00:31:32 vogon_jeltz -- Samuel Beckett 02:16:59 captain_pistachio hi tim 17:15:01 vogon_jeltz hey, tim 17:15:09 vogon_jeltz finally got SLI working on his V5 17:23:01 vogon_jeltz is away: playing D3 17:46:42 vogon_jeltz is back (gone 00:23:40) 18:25:17 vogon_jeltz hi, Tim 18:25:26 vogon_jeltz BZFlag: I think I finally got SLI working on my V5 18:28:26 BZFlag sweet! what's the frame rate? the v5 has 2 processors or 4? 18:28:34 vogon_jeltz 2 18:29:07 captain_pistachio hey tim how are you? 18:30:41 BZFlag is fine. We have Linux running on the TuxScreen now. ;-) 18:30:51 vogon_jeltz yay 18:31:09 captain_pistachio nice 18:31:28 vogon_jeltz is pissed at the SLI functions he's gotten working because they totally fsck up BZFlag display... 18:31:44 vogon_jeltz they make everything blue 18:31:48 BZFlag that doesn't sound good. 18:31:53 captain_pistachio lol 18:32:00 vogon_jeltz no, it's not 18:32:13 vogon_jeltz it's a problem with SLI as it's currently (not) implemented 18:32:14 BZFlag can you use SLI to render an immersive interlaced display? 18:32:33 vogon_jeltz uhm, I guess so... 18:33:05 BZFlag I'd like to see a "-view interlace" option added to bzflag to support immersive stereo displays. 18:33:17 vogon_jeltz that *would* be cool 18:33:23 BZFlag many of them send every other scan line to each eye. 18:33:39 vogon_jeltz but SLI is designed to work with 10-line or so bands 18:33:55 BZFlag you have tried -view stacked ? 18:34:05 vogon_jeltz no 18:34:12 BZFlag ah.. it would need to be every other. 18:34:13 captain_pistachio why not render each eye from different perspectives? you get half the framerate, but depth 18:34:44 BZFlag stacked does render each eye. but the image is split top to bottom. 18:34:57 captain_pistachio hmmm 18:35:14 BZFlag I could do a side to side split and then playu cross eyed, but then you get an odd viewport size. 18:35:32 captain_pistachio lol 18:35:33 vogon_jeltz is gonna DCC BZFlag his BZ screenshot 18:36:18 vogon_jeltz BZ, can I keep BZFlag from grabbing the mouse? 18:36:59 BZFlag is firewalled, so don't bother. 18:37:08 vogon_jeltz ahh, OK 18:37:35 vogon_jeltz hehe 18:37:41 vogon_jeltz BZFlag looks *so* weird on my box 18:37:46 vogon_jeltz the mountains are blue 18:37:47 BZFlag vogon_jeltz: mousegrab no in your config. 18:37:52 vogon_jeltz thx 18:38:19 BZFlag though at some point that was broken on linux IIRC. might have to use -window too. 18:38:34 captain_pistachio i've been thinking about why big worlds don't work 18:38:41 captain_pistachio it doesn't seem to be an absolute problem with size 18:38:45 captain_pistachio but rather # of teleporters 18:39:24 captain_pistachio any thoughts? 18:39:44 BZFlag have not looked at it. big worlds are not high on my priority. 18:43:29 vogon_jeltz is away: taking a screenshot 18:45:07 vogon_jeltz is back (gone 00:01:38) 18:46:37 vogon_jeltz BZ, want a screen of BZFlag on my box? 19:46:42 vogon_jeltz hey, pistachio, SLI works now! 19:47:38 captain_pistachio you've told me three times already 19:47:58 vogon_jeltz but now, it's not all fscked up! 19:48:10 vogon_jeltz I just have to run it in 16-bit depth 19:48:50 captain_pistachio ha 19:49:03 vogon_jeltz ha what? 19:49:17 captain_pistachio 16 bit depth\ 19:49:18 vogon_jeltz I get 122 fps in 1024x768x16 19:50:06 captain_pistachio hmm thats ok i suppose ;) 19:50:09 vogon_jeltz and 90-something at 1024x768x32 19:50:19 vogon_jeltz but the colors are all screwed up at 32-bit 19:51:44 vogon_jeltz damn it 19:51:53 vogon_jeltz the hostname lookup in BZFlag is fscked up 22:05:06 thanks vogon_jeltz :) 22:05:06 vogon_jeltz ibot, bot snack 22:05:12 vogon_jeltz :) 22:07:37 captain_pistachio wow 22:07:39 captain_pistachio ibot, help 22:07:55 vogon_jeltz has karma of -1 22:07:55 captain_pistachio ibot, karma vogon_jeltz 22:08:12 captain_pistachio has neutral karma 22:08:12 vogon_jeltz ibot, karma captain_pistachio 22:08:44 captain_proton has karma of -1 22:08:44 vogon_jeltz ibot, karma captain_proton 23:08:59 BZFlag http://TuxScreen.net/img/rimg0007.jpg 23:09:25 vogon_jeltz BZ: I got my SLI workin' with BZFlag in 16-bit 23:10:13 vogon_jeltz BZ: low frame rate (the staircase on TwinTowers) = 41 fps, high (facing pretty much anywhere on a standard map) = 122 fps 23:10:35 captain_pistachio poor you ;) 23:11:17 vogon_jeltz yeah, but I didn't drop $300 for my vidcard 23:11:21 vogon_jeltz only $100 Generated by irclog2html.pl by Jeff Waugh - find it at freshmeat.net! Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot logs, split per channel and by date, etc.

`00:29:14`	`vogon_jeltz`	`hey, pistachio`
`00:29:21`	`vogon_jeltz`	`is in a pasting mood`
`00:29:39`	`vogon_jeltz`	`management, n.:`
`00:29:39`	`vogon_jeltz`	`The art of getting other people to do all the work.`
`00:29:44`	`vogon_jeltz`	`"I prefer rogues to imbeciles, because they sometimes take a rest."`
`00:29:44`	`vogon_jeltz`	`-- Alexandre Dumas (fils)`
`00:29:48`	`vogon_jeltz`	`All the taxes paid over a lifetime by the average American are spent by`
`00:29:48`	`vogon_jeltz`	`the government in less than a second.`
`00:29:48`	`vogon_jeltz`	`-- Jim Fiebig`
`00:29:50`	`vogon_jeltz`	`Nondeterminism means never having to say you are wrong.`
`00:29:53`	`vogon_jeltz`	`When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute.`
`00:29:53`	`vogon_jeltz`	`But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute -- and it's longer than any`
`00:29:53`	`vogon_jeltz`	`hour. That's relativity.`
`00:29:54`	`vogon_jeltz`	`-- Albert Einstein`
`00:29:58`	`vogon_jeltz`	`hahaha`
`00:30:09`	`vogon_jeltz`	`hahaha`
`00:30:14`	`vogon_jeltz`	`oops`
`00:30:16`	`vogon_jeltz`	`Be valiant, but not too venturous.`
`00:30:16`	`vogon_jeltz`	`Let thy attire be comely, but not costly.`
`00:30:16`	`vogon_jeltz`	`-- John Lyly`
`00:30:18`	`vogon_jeltz`	`BASIC, n.:`
`00:30:19`	`vogon_jeltz`	`A programming language. Related to certain social diseases in`
`00:30:19`	`vogon_jeltz`	`that those who have it will not admit it in polite company.`
`00:30:25`	`vogon_jeltz`	`laf`
`00:30:28`	`vogon_jeltz`	`laf`
`00:30:31`	`vogon_jeltz`	`argh`
`00:30:38`	`vogon_jeltz`	`my brain doesn't work today`
`00:30:40`	`vogon_jeltz`	`The brain is a wonderful organ; it starts working the moment you get up`
`00:30:41`	`vogon_jeltz`	`in the morning, and does not stop until you get to work.`
`00:30:47`	`vogon_jeltz`	`"'Tis true, 'tis pity, and pity 'tis 'tis true."`
`00:30:47`	`vogon_jeltz`	`-- Poloniouius, in Willie the Shake's _Hamlet, Prince of Darkness_`
`00:30:49`	`vogon_jeltz`	`The way to fight a woman is with your hat. Grab it and run.`
`00:30:53`	`vogon_jeltz`	`Q:What is purple and concord the world?`
`00:30:53`	`vogon_jeltz`	`A:Alexander the Grape.`
`00:31:03`	`vogon_jeltz`	`:)`
`00:31:05`	`vogon_jeltz`	`Education is learning what you didn't even know you didn't know.`
`00:31:05`	`vogon_jeltz`	`-- Daniel J. Boorstin`
`00:31:07`	`vogon_jeltz`	`Macho does not prove mucho.`
`00:31:07`	`vogon_jeltz`	`-- Zsa Zsa Gabor`
`00:31:08`	`vogon_jeltz`	`Do not think by infection, catching an opinion like a cold.`
`00:31:14`	`vogon_jeltz`	`Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat.`
`00:31:15`	`vogon_jeltz`	`-- John Lehman, Secretary of the Navy, 1981-1987`
`00:31:17`	`vogon_jeltz`	`Matter will be damaged in direct proportion to its value.`
`00:31:19`	`vogon_jeltz`	`For men use, if they have an evil turn, to write it in marble:`
`00:31:19`	`vogon_jeltz`	`and whoso doth us a good turn we write it in dust.`
`00:31:19`	`vogon_jeltz`	`-- Sir Thomas More`
`00:31:23`	`vogon_jeltz`	`Use an accordion. Go to jail.`
`00:31:23`	`vogon_jeltz`	`-- KFOG, San Francisco`
`00:31:26`	`vogon_jeltz`	`You have an ambitious nature and may make a name for yourself.`
`00:31:30`	`vogon_jeltz`	`All I know is what the words know, and dead things, and that`
`00:31:30`	`vogon_jeltz`	`makes a handsome little sum, with a beginning and a middle and`
`00:31:30`	`vogon_jeltz`	`an end, as in the well-built phrase and the long sonata of the dead.`
`00:31:32`	`vogon_jeltz`	`-- Samuel Beckett`
`02:16:59`	`captain_pistachio`	`hi tim`
`17:15:01`	`vogon_jeltz`	`hey, tim`
`17:15:09`	`vogon_jeltz`	`finally got SLI working on his V5`
`17:23:01`	`vogon_jeltz`	`is away: playing D3`
`17:46:42`	`vogon_jeltz`	`is back (gone 00:23:40)`
`18:25:17`	`vogon_jeltz`	`hi, Tim`
`18:25:26`	`vogon_jeltz`	`BZFlag: I think I finally got SLI working on my V5`
`18:28:26`	`BZFlag`	`sweet! what's the frame rate? the v5 has 2 processors or 4?`
`18:28:34`	`vogon_jeltz`	`2`
`18:29:07`	`captain_pistachio`	`hey tim how are you?`
`18:30:41`	`BZFlag`	`is fine. We have Linux running on the TuxScreen now. ;-)`
`18:30:51`	`vogon_jeltz`	`yay`
`18:31:09`	`captain_pistachio`	`nice`
`18:31:28`	`vogon_jeltz`	`is pissed at the SLI functions he's gotten working because they totally fsck up BZFlag display...`
`18:31:44`	`vogon_jeltz`	`they make everything blue`
`18:31:48`	`BZFlag`	`that doesn't sound good.`
`18:31:53`	`captain_pistachio`	`lol`
`18:32:00`	`vogon_jeltz`	`no, it's not`
`18:32:13`	`vogon_jeltz`	`it's a problem with SLI as it's currently (not) implemented`
`18:32:14`	`BZFlag`	`can you use SLI to render an immersive interlaced display?`
`18:32:33`	`vogon_jeltz`	`uhm, I guess so...`
`18:33:05`	`BZFlag`	`I'd like to see a "-view interlace" option added to bzflag to support immersive stereo displays.`
`18:33:17`	`vogon_jeltz`	`that would be cool`
`18:33:23`	`BZFlag`	`many of them send every other scan line to each eye.`
`18:33:39`	`vogon_jeltz`	`but SLI is designed to work with 10-line or so bands`
`18:33:55`	`BZFlag`	`you have tried -view stacked ?`
`18:34:05`	`vogon_jeltz`	`no`
`18:34:12`	`BZFlag`	`ah.. it would need to be every other.`
`18:34:13`	`captain_pistachio`	`why not render each eye from different perspectives? you get half the framerate, but depth`
`18:34:44`	`BZFlag`	`stacked does render each eye. but the image is split top to bottom.`
`18:34:57`	`captain_pistachio`	`hmmm`
`18:35:14`	`BZFlag`	`I could do a side to side split and then playu cross eyed, but then you get an odd viewport size.`
`18:35:32`	`captain_pistachio`	`lol`
`18:35:33`	`vogon_jeltz`	`is gonna DCC BZFlag his BZ screenshot`
`18:36:18`	`vogon_jeltz`	`BZ, can I keep BZFlag from grabbing the mouse?`
`18:36:59`	`BZFlag`	`is firewalled, so don't bother.`
`18:37:08`	`vogon_jeltz`	`ahh, OK`
`18:37:35`	`vogon_jeltz`	`hehe`
`18:37:41`	`vogon_jeltz`	`BZFlag looks so weird on my box`
`18:37:46`	`vogon_jeltz`	`the mountains are blue`
`18:37:47`	`BZFlag`	`vogon_jeltz: mousegrab no in your config.`
`18:37:52`	`vogon_jeltz`	`thx`
`18:38:19`	`BZFlag`	`though at some point that was broken on linux IIRC. might have to use -window too.`
`18:38:34`	`captain_pistachio`	`i've been thinking about why big worlds don't work`
`18:38:41`	`captain_pistachio`	`it doesn't seem to be an absolute problem with size`
`18:38:45`	`captain_pistachio`	`but rather # of teleporters`
`18:39:24`	`captain_pistachio`	`any thoughts?`
`18:39:44`	`BZFlag`	`have not looked at it. big worlds are not high on my priority.`
`18:43:29`	`vogon_jeltz`	`is away: taking a screenshot`
`18:45:07`	`vogon_jeltz`	`is back (gone 00:01:38)`
`18:46:37`	`vogon_jeltz`	`BZ, want a screen of BZFlag on my box?`
`19:46:42`	`vogon_jeltz`	`hey, pistachio, SLI works now!`
`19:47:38`	`captain_pistachio`	`you've told me three times already`
`19:47:58`	`vogon_jeltz`	`but now, it's not all fscked up!`
`19:48:10`	`vogon_jeltz`	`I just have to run it in 16-bit depth`
`19:48:50`	`captain_pistachio`	`ha`
`19:49:03`	`vogon_jeltz`	`ha what?`
`19:49:17`	`captain_pistachio`	`16 bit depth\`
`19:49:18`	`vogon_jeltz`	`I get 122 fps in 1024x768x16`
`19:50:06`	`captain_pistachio`	`hmm thats ok i suppose ;)`
`19:50:09`	`vogon_jeltz`	`and 90-something at 1024x768x32`
`19:50:19`	`vogon_jeltz`	`but the colors are all screwed up at 32-bit`
`19:51:44`	`vogon_jeltz`	`damn it`
`19:51:53`	`vogon_jeltz`	`the hostname lookup in BZFlag is fscked up`
`22:05:06`		`thanks vogon_jeltz :)`
`22:05:06`	`vogon_jeltz`	`ibot, bot snack`
`22:05:12`	`vogon_jeltz`	`:)`
`22:07:37`	`captain_pistachio`	`wow`
`22:07:39`	`captain_pistachio`	`ibot, help`
`22:07:55`		`vogon_jeltz has karma of -1`
`22:07:55`	`captain_pistachio`	`ibot, karma vogon_jeltz`
`22:08:12`		`captain_pistachio has neutral karma`
`22:08:12`	`vogon_jeltz`	`ibot, karma captain_pistachio`
`22:08:44`		`captain_proton has karma of -1`
`22:08:44`	`vogon_jeltz`	`ibot, karma captain_proton`
`23:08:59`	`BZFlag`	`http://TuxScreen.net/img/rimg0007.jpg`
`23:09:25`	`vogon_jeltz`	`BZ: I got my SLI workin' with BZFlag in 16-bit`
`23:10:13`	`vogon_jeltz`	`BZ: low frame rate (the staircase on TwinTowers) = 41 fps, high (facing pretty much anywhere on a standard map) = 122 fps`
`23:10:35`	`captain_pistachio`	`poor you ;)`
`23:11:17`	`vogon_jeltz`	`yeah, but I didn't drop $300 for my vidcard`
`23:11:21`	`vogon_jeltz`	`only $100`