| 00:16.59 | *** join/#bzflag-chat infobot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 00:16.59 | *** topic/#bzflag-chat is Welcome to BZChat; the place to talk about your favorite tank game BZFLAG || http://bzflag.org || Forums http://my.bzflag.org/bb || http://my.bzflag.org/w/MapMaking || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/GettingHelp || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Download || non bzflag chat yields to bzflag chat yields to bzflag help. be kind and civil. this channel is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzchat/ |
| 00:17.02 | JeffM2501 | whoot! |
| 00:17.03 | me1 | ~yay |
| 00:17.03 | infobot | Yipee! |
| 00:17.11 | JeffM2501 | all I did was kick it from chat |
| 00:17.18 | CBG | ~cookie |
| 00:17.24 | *** join/#bzflag-chat brad (n=brad@static.moooo.org) |
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| 00:18.05 | JeffM2501 | now we see who has auto join :) |
| 00:18.12 | me1 | heh |
| 00:18.37 | lol_udied | u did auto join jeff? |
| 00:18.58 | JeffM2501 | auto rejoin |
| 00:19.06 | JeffM2501 | I kicked everyone from #bzchat |
| 00:19.15 | CBG | No. he did lern engwish in skule1 |
| 00:19.43 | temp_dist | now we get the chorus of "hey, why did I get kicked? I wasn't even there!" |
| 00:20.34 | eTangenT | hey, why did I get kicked? I wasn't even there! |
| 00:23.23 | CBG | But anywho - yes, I am in he XNA group. It was either that or OGRE (and seeing how we can't programme diddly-squat and OGRE is just a few libraries...) so here I am following the PAINSTAKINGLY slow tutorial. |
| 00:23.37 | CBG | 40 hours of video to change the bakground! Yay. |
| 00:24.51 | donny_baker | but just think, you can change the background on anXBox 360 now :) |
| 00:25.09 | *** part/#bzflag-chat Winny (n=iWinny@unaffiliated/winny) |
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| 00:27.10 | CBG | !!! I don't have one! |
| 00:27.53 | *** join/#bzflag-chat Abominable (n=Abominab@unaffiliated/abominable) |
| 00:27.59 | CBG | Oh well. Better sleep well so I am fresh for continuing with the tutorial tomorrow. |
| 00:28.06 | CBG | Well, today, 8 hours... |
| 00:28.32 | CBG | Well, 7 and a half. 7 hours till the bus leaves. 6 hours 30 before I need to be up. |
| 00:40.28 | Winny | yawns |
| 00:40.40 | me1 | yawns |
| 00:43.05 | lol_udied | I need help |
| 00:43.28 | me1 | feel free to ask your question |
| 00:44.37 | lol_udied | theres this person on bzflag thats banned on the forums for cheating and he wants a second chance I observed him and he seems really nice. he wants to have his maps hosted but he learned he cant because he has no one to trust |
| 00:44.45 | *** join/#bzflag-chat comeandgetit (n=vickimos@nat2.srtnet.com) |
| 00:44.51 | lol_udied | here he is |
| 00:44.58 | lol_udied | come and get it |
| 00:45.04 | lol_udied | go ahead and talk |
| 00:45.05 | comeandgetit | hey |
| 00:45.07 | donny_baker | lol_udied: you wanted back in? |
| 00:45.16 | Winny | lol_udied: Actions have consequences |
| 00:45.18 | lol_udied | wat donny? |
| 00:45.18 | Winny | deal with it |
| 00:45.30 | comeandgetit | i want a second chance |
| 00:45.47 | donny_baker | for? |
| 00:45.57 | comeandgetit | i am a former cheater |
| 00:46.08 | comeandgetit | but am banned from many places |
| 00:46.14 | donny_baker | i wouldn't call hours ago.. former |
| 00:46.20 | lol_udied | it isnt |
| 00:46.24 | lol_udied | its been weeks |
| 00:46.24 | *** join/#bzflag-chat short_circuit (n=short_ci@c-98-197-19-35.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 00:46.39 | comeandgetit | cheating is stupid and a friend convenced me |
| 00:46.44 | short_circuit | kicks? |
| 00:46.58 | short_circuit | oh |
| 00:47.05 | comeandgetit | ive played clean for a while now |
| 00:47.17 | donny_baker | oh.. weeks, im going to disagree with you lol_udied |
| 00:47.22 | short_circuit | I entered a bzflag encounter group |
| 00:47.23 | lol_udied | well w/e |
| 00:48.36 | comeandgetit | i really want a second chance but my friend, dkmissle aka super pooop live close to me and he cheats constantly |
| 00:48.44 | comeandgetit | he gets banned i get banned |
| 00:48.57 | donny_baker | comeandgetit, how close? |
| 00:49.06 | comeandgetit | i will do ANYTHING for a 2nd chance |
| 00:49.32 | comeandgetit | im very sorry i ruined the project |
| 00:49.36 | donny_baker | cause he has to live in the same house.. and only play from your house |
| 00:49.51 | comeandgetit | i live in a small town |
| 00:49.53 | Abominable | comeandgetit, who is this "friend" |
| 00:49.58 | Abominable | what does he go by in bzflag? |
| 00:50.02 | lol_udied | he said abom |
| 00:50.03 | lol_udied | dkmissle |
| 00:50.09 | lol_udied | but my friend, dkmissle |
| 00:50.12 | lol_udied | see? |
| 00:50.36 | Abominable | oops, passed over that |
| 00:50.40 | donny_baker | and who is pressF12? |
| 00:50.42 | lol_udied | heh |
| 00:50.54 | lol_udied | what? |
| 00:51.00 | Abominable | comeandgetit, where are you banned from? |
| 00:51.09 | donny_baker | everywhere |
| 00:51.34 | lol_udied | All he wants is just a second chance |
| 00:51.45 | lol_udied | cant u project admins like track him? |
| 00:51.50 | lol_udied | to see his activity? |
| 00:51.59 | Abominable | I vote nai, until I see him playing good. |
| 00:52.08 | Abominable | if he plays on a server again, that is |
| 00:52.12 | lol_udied | He told me he quited the bzflag cheat website |
| 00:52.17 | lol_udied | he said he closed his account |
| 00:52.25 | Winny | lol_udied: why should they take THEIR time to track people who have caused trouble |
| 00:52.26 | lol_udied | I vote yay |
| 00:52.39 | Winny | lol_udied: you sure do know a lot about these cheaters and their websites |
| 00:52.39 | donny_baker | we are taking this conversation private.. thanks guys |
| 00:52.40 | lol_udied | well Winny, Iv been watching him |
| 00:52.42 | Abominable | lol_udied and how do you know this isn't sk3ltr0n just trying to mess something else up? |
| 00:52.50 | lol_udied | Winny I hear these from rumors |
| 00:52.51 | donny_baker | it is IMHO |
| 00:53.01 | Abominable | *cough* working with him *cough* |
| 00:53.32 | lol_udied | sk3 didnt do anything, nightmare got my AIM from the forums (or somehow) and just said "Your next" |
| 00:53.34 | lol_udied | and im like what? |
| 00:53.39 | comeandgetit | i am done cheating |
| 00:54.01 | Abominable | sk3letr0n didn't do anything? |
| 00:54.02 | lol_udied | I asked him what do u mean and who are u |
| 00:54.07 | Abominable | Are you serious? he's just as bad as NM |
| 00:54.14 | lol_udied | sure |
| 00:54.20 | lol_udied | " " |
| 00:54.43 | Abominable | lol_udied you're not making much sense |
| 00:55.02 | lol_udied | fyi, I talked to sk3 a.k.a gh0st and he told me he talked to JeffM and he told me he sent a chat log between sk3 and NM |
| 00:55.08 | lol_udied | and sk3 is now not host banned no longer |
| 00:55.11 | lol_udied | dude Im telling |
| 00:55.12 | lol_udied | u |
| 00:55.12 | comeandgetit | i will do ANYTHING for a seond chance |
| 00:55.19 | lol_udied | a lot of cheaters are backing down |
| 00:55.39 | Abominable | lol_udied so you ARE "working" with sk3letr0n and other cheaters |
| 00:55.47 | Abominable | lol_udied yeah so they can get back into the game and cheat mroe |
| 00:55.50 | lol_udied | no? ur such an idiot |
| 00:56.04 | comeandgetit | can i have a second chance? |
| 00:56.05 | AAA_awright | Let us not call each other names please |
| 00:56.05 | Abominable | Stop defending cheaters, you're making yourself look more like one every minute |
| 00:56.06 | Winny | keep it civil |
| 00:56.07 | lol_udied | I keep up to date with cheaters and see what there up to |
| 00:56.07 | AAA_awright | Thanks |
| 00:56.19 | spldart | Hrm...tough nooggies seems appropriate. |
| 00:56.32 | me1 | guys, donny said this convo is going private, seriously, drop it. |
| 00:56.54 | Abominable | grumbles at me1 |
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| 00:57.20 | comeandgetit | please, im SOOOO SORRY |
| 00:57.42 | comeandgetit | guys Im serious I will give u any info about cheating if u give me a second chnce |
| 00:57.56 | lol_udied | does that include the bzflag website? |
| 00:57.59 | lol_udied | bzflag cheat |
| 00:58.02 | lol_udied | website |
| 00:58.23 | comeandgetit | yes |
| 00:58.29 | AAA_awright | comeandgetit: Begging does not look very good either |
| 00:58.43 | comeandgetit | i am truthful |
| 00:58.51 | comeandgetit | im done cheating, for good |
| 00:58.52 | spldart | No mas! |
| 00:58.59 | AAA_awright | me1: Not to spoil the party, but let's not speak on behalf of other authorities |
| 00:59.03 | lol_udied | what does the bzflag cheat websiehave |
| 00:59.07 | lol_udied | thats usefull to us |
| 00:59.11 | *** join/#bzflag-chat Think_Differentl (n=fatass__@unaffiliated/thinkdifferentl/x-838543) |
| 00:59.19 | Abominable | lol_udied: it has cheats |
| 00:59.26 | comeandgetit | numeros cheaters you might not be aware of |
| 00:59.48 | comeandgetit | theres cheat cleitns with source codes |
| 00:59.59 | comeandgetit | announcements |
| 01:00.03 | spldart | Patches |
| 01:00.10 | Winny | ok? source is freely available and modifiyable |
| 01:00.22 | comeandgetit | yes |
| 01:00.24 | Winny | I could go make a cheat client in 10 minutes if I really wanted to, but hey! I don't. |
| 01:00.40 | comeandgetit | i didnt make them, other peeps did |
| 01:00.49 | Abominable | and you used them |
| 01:00.50 | comeandgetit | i used em, not no more |
| 01:00.56 | Abominable | and you where not sorry when you used them |
| 01:00.59 | comeandgetit | im done with that |
| 01:01.33 | comeandgetit | dkmissle gave me the client, he convinced me 2 cheat |
| 01:01.49 | spldart | Your in permaban territory. But likely in half a year or maybe more you could play again freely if you don't raise any flags. |
| 01:01.57 | Abominable | Oh come on, how can he "convince" you to use a cheat client? |
| 01:02.30 | comeandgetit | i was playing with him and i said i sucked, he sayd he could make me rock |
| 01:02.33 | Winny | You made the choice to be a dick, people now dislike you for it. Live with your choices. Seriously. |
| 01:02.40 | AAA_awright | comeandgetit: If you are, then you would accept the consequences of what you did, take it, and don't do it again |
| 01:02.52 | Winny | if you kill someone you can't do "omg I'll never kill anyone ever again I promise double dog promise!" |
| 01:03.32 | comeandgetit | when will this consequences be over? |
| 01:03.48 | comeandgetit | All I want is just a freshstart |
| 01:03.59 | Abominable | <spldart>Your in permaban territory. But likely in half a year or maybe more you could play again freely if you don't raise any flags. |
| 01:04.16 | lol_udied | anyway, Im gonna let comeandgetit on my maps and CoAM maps. And ill watch him more, But I asure you hes clean |
| 01:04.51 | AAA_awright | spldart: A tad bit excessive... lol_udied: Then that is between you and the players and the server |
| 01:05.09 | lol_udied | So you even wont let him go on the forums? |
| 01:05.34 | comeandgetit | i have undergone the concequences |
| 01:05.42 | Think_Differentl | nobody "forces" you to do anything on the internet |
| 01:05.48 | comeandgetit | EX: banned from 50+ servers |
| 01:05.50 | Think_Differentl | you can make the choice. |
| 01:06.03 | Abominable | Think_Differentl, I will spam you if you don't use this client! |
| 01:06.06 | comeandgetit | i made the wrong one, i am now making th right one |
| 01:06.30 | Think_Differentl | Abominable, then i'll just filter it. |
| 01:06.41 | lol_udied | hehe |
| 01:06.41 | Abominable | comeandgetit and now you will wait half a year before you can play again, get over it, and go on with your life, seriously. |
| 01:06.48 | spldart | The inet is a place that offers unprecedented freedoms.. and unprecedented chances of getting in trouble. Please own your actions and their consequences. There are other games online BTW... |
| 01:06.58 | Abominable | think_differentl no no no, i haz uber leet hax! |
| 01:07.22 | AAA_awright | spldart: Was this a repeat violation or what? |
| 01:07.27 | comeandgetit | BZF is like my fav game EVER |
| 01:07.37 | Think_Differentl | there are lots of games to play |
| 01:07.44 | Abominable | so you cheated on your favorite game, good idea! |
| 01:08.09 | comeandgetit | i didnt know id feel this way about it |
| 01:08.17 | comeandgetit | but i do |
| 01:08.40 | comeandgetit | You guys dont really understand. ALL im trying to do is just get a second chance to prove that I am not a cheater no more. I will ban cheaters even if they were my best friend ever. |
| 01:09.20 | Abominable | comeandgetit and as spldart said, you're banned for ~half a year, just wait it off |
| 01:09.35 | spldart | Now now.. |
| 01:09.38 | spldart | I didn't say that |
| 01:09.41 | lol_udied | how do u know that he is banned for half a year abom |
| 01:09.49 | comeandgetit | i am super sorry, i have undergone the concequences |
| 01:09.50 | Abominable | <spldart>Your in permaban territory. But likely in half a year or maybe more you could play again freely if you don't raise any flags. |
| 01:10.00 | Abominable | likely, my mistake |
| 01:10.05 | AAA_awright | Mine too |
| 01:10.23 | spldart | In the grand scheme.. After obvious cheating it takes a while for trust to build and bans to fall. |
| 01:10.55 | donny_baker | spldart is a wise man.. err boy.. uhm.. well you get the idea |
| 01:10.57 | spldart | I pulled a number for the timeframe I would assume knowing my own servers and servers I've seen in operation for a known and confirmed cheater. |
| 01:11.54 | Think_Differentl | if indeed the duration is 6 months, it will pass quickly |
| 01:12.05 | Think_Differentl | after about the first 3 days, you'll move on |
| 01:12.52 | spldart | I don't know any exact figures for his specific bans. But I do know it takes a while for something this big, and now morso this well known, to pass and have people trust the player in question. |
| 01:13.03 | comeandgetit | how can I convince you people to tell you that I AM NOT A CHEATER NO MORE?!?!?! |
| 01:13.08 | spldart | It could be 2 or 3 months... it could be more.. That's just the way things go. |
| 01:13.22 | donny_baker | wait your time out.. bans are there for a reason |
| 01:13.25 | spldart | Take a break from the game |
| 01:13.37 | spldart | then play under a different name on the servers you can get on |
| 01:13.45 | spldart | Then eventually I imagine you can get on the rest. |
| 01:13.49 | spldart | pretty simple |
| 01:13.52 | spldart | Time |
| 01:14.16 | *** join/#bzflag-chat Constitution (n=const@unaffiliated/macsforme) |
| 01:14.17 | Think_Differentl | in life, you have to take responsibilty for your actions. it is exactly the same on the internet/games/whatever |
| 01:14.21 | comeandgetit | i will tell you guys all about the site |
| 01:16.21 | Winny | "the site" is pretty worthless, cheating is just modifying code. Anyone with some C++ experience and logic about how code works can do it |
| 01:16.28 | Winny | nothing magical about it |
| 01:16.55 | Think_Differentl | think about it, if you get fired from a job because you don't do your work and commiting fraud, do you expect the company to hire you just because you say "i'm sorry i won't do it again"? |
| 01:17.18 | comeandgetit | here are some players that cheat. comeandgetit |
| 01:17.18 | spldart | BTW. I apologize if the way I stated anything lead to a misunderstanding... I'm giving examples in time frame and drawing on my experience with my own and other servers and how they deal with known cheaters. |
| 01:17.18 | comeandgetit | DKMISSLE |
| 01:17.19 | comeandgetit | Micheal Jackson |
| 01:17.19 | comeandgetit | Sk3letr0n |
| 01:17.19 | comeandgetit | NightMare |
| 01:17.20 | comeandgetit | Tim Jets |
| 01:17.21 | comeandgetit | razputin |
| 01:17.23 | comeandgetit | Gazer |
| 01:17.25 | comeandgetit | Mäfïa |
| 01:17.27 | comeandgetit | MarsRover |
| 01:17.29 | comeandgetit | Elmo |
| 01:17.31 | comeandgetit | aurum |
| 01:17.33 | comeandgetit | Oni |
| 01:17.35 | comeandgetit | ThePest |
| 01:17.37 | comeandgetit | bob |
| 01:17.42 | comeandgetit | they all joined the site |
| 01:18.06 | donny_baker | well Micheal Jackson is a lolu_died callsign |
| 01:18.10 | lol_udied | no |
| 01:18.14 | lol_udied | I was framed |
| 01:18.19 | donny_baker | ok |
| 01:18.19 | lol_udied | I already discussed with JeffM |
| 01:18.22 | comeandgetit | oh sorry thats a typo |
| 01:18.25 | lol_udied | no need to get back in to that again |
| 01:18.36 | comeandgetit | yah hes done |
| 01:18.41 | lol_udied | Donny_baker, I was framed because I didnt secure my Wifi, |
| 01:19.07 | spldart | Oh man..... |
| 01:20.20 | AAA_awright | FINAL WORD: stop |
| 01:20.22 | AAA_awright | Nowwwww |
| 01:20.46 | spldart | hehe /ban t=0 or some such ;) |
| 01:21.01 | comeandgetit | who |
| 01:21.03 | AAA_awright | JeffM2501: Riker has to move ibot over here yes? |
| 01:21.10 | me1 | ~yay |
| 01:21.11 | infobot | Yipee! |
| 01:21.13 | me1 | he's here |
| 01:21.20 | AAA_awright | infobot? |
| 01:21.23 | me1 | yep |
| 01:21.27 | me1 | they are one and the same |
| 01:21.34 | comeandgetit | whats yippee! |
| 01:21.36 | comeandgetit | ? |
| 01:21.38 | Think_Differentl | ~karma Think_Differentl |
| 01:21.38 | infobot | think_differentl has karma of 4 |
| 01:21.39 | AAA_awright | In that case |
| 01:21.40 | lol_udied | lol |
| 01:21.49 | me1 | An exclimation of excitment or joy |
| 01:21.50 | AAA_awright | Someone needs to set the channel /topic |
| 01:21.56 | Think_Differentl | ~++Think_Differentl |
| 01:21.56 | AAA_awright | ~karma AAA_awright |
| 01:21.56 | infobot | aaa_awright has karma of 28 |
| 01:22.08 | Think_Differentl | hm |
| 01:22.29 | Think_Differentl | ~karma Think_Differentl |
| 01:22.29 | infobot | think_differentl has karma of 4 |
| 01:22.29 | spldart | ~karma spldart |
| 01:22.29 | infobot | spldart has karma of 9 |
| 01:22.29 | comeandgetit | what do we say to the bot |
| 01:22.44 | spldart | hehe... you sank my battleship |
| 01:22.52 | comeandgetit | whats my karma |
| 01:23.03 | AAA_awright | ~karma comeandgetit |
| 01:23.03 | infobot | comeandgetit has neutral karma |
| 01:23.11 | comeandgetit | lol |
| 01:23.16 | AAA_awright | ~karma CBG |
| 01:23.16 | infobot | cbg has karma of -526 |
| 01:23.18 | comeandgetit | neutral karma |
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| 01:23.59 | donny_baker | ~karma donny_baker |
| 01:23.59 | infobot | donny_baker has karma of 13 |
| 01:24.57 | *** join/#bzflag-chat Erroneous (n=dtremena@about/essy/CrazyCoder/DTRemenak) |
| 01:25.29 | comeandgetit | i just want a second chance |
| 01:25.44 | Constitution | ~karma |
| 01:25.44 | infobot | constitution has karma of 74 |
| 01:26.20 | spldart | If you talk to the server owner and he says no then you are done... Each individual server owner is the final say on who is banned or not, who gets a second chance or not. |
| 01:27.32 | beanpole | ~swarm constitution |
| 01:27.45 | beanpole | *frown* |
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| 02:12.25 | JeffM2501 | it has not been shown if lol_u_died was "framed" or not |
| 02:13.31 | JeffM2501 | wow, see what I get for actualualy working :/ |
| 02:14.46 | L4m3r | whoa, this is new. #bzflag-chat ? |
| 02:14.58 | JeffM2501 | hmmyeah |
| 02:15.05 | JeffM2501 | forwared from the old one |
| 02:15.06 | L4m3r | didn't even notice the channel forwarding |
| 02:15.12 | JeffM2501 | as it should be :) |
| 02:15.14 | me1 | JeffM2501, can I have a bzflag/player cloak, if it isn't too much trouble? |
| 02:15.21 | JeffM2501 | me1, not yet |
| 02:15.30 | JeffM2501 | I need to work out a system for them with the other admins |
| 02:15.30 | me1 | okay |
| 02:15.35 | JeffM2501 | I want to keep them consistnet |
| 02:15.45 | JeffM2501 | like bzflag/player/callsign/user |
| 02:15.55 | JeffM2501 | and bzflag/serverowner/calsign/user |
| 02:16.00 | JeffM2501 | so we can know who does what |
| 02:16.08 | L4m3r | probably a dev one too |
| 02:16.10 | JeffM2501 | since we will also do bzflag/developer/callsign/ user |
| 02:16.13 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 02:16.24 | me1 | Sounds cool! |
| 02:21.13 | AHA | JeffM2501, i think a simple bzflag/developer/callsign and bzflag/player/callsign would sufice |
| 02:21.22 | AHA | and maybe one for those who donate to the project |
| 02:21.36 | JeffM2501 | AHA perhaps |
| 02:21.47 | JeffM2501 | but if it dosn't say "player" it could be confusing |
| 02:21.47 | AHA | or those who contribute in a significate way (like winny, saturos, etc) |
| 02:22.01 | AAA_awright | How about a simple /sponsor/ and /callsign/ |
| 02:22.11 | JeffM2501 | perhaps |
| 02:22.20 | JeffM2501 | I am writing up a wiki page now to see what the options are |
| 02:22.30 | JeffM2501 | I just want to make sure we have it consistent before we add a bunch |
| 02:22.35 | L4m3r | the relevant people will make the call |
| 02:22.55 | L4m3r | I don't think the details of the convention matter as much as the fact that there is one |
| 02:23.05 | AAA_awright | Preferably something you can grant based on solid evidence, e.g. development history, donations, etc. |
| 02:23.21 | JeffM2501 | hence why I write it up |
| 02:23.28 | AAA_awright | A good idea |
| 02:23.29 | JeffM2501 | donations don't matter |
| 02:23.35 | JeffM2501 | we don't really do them |
| 02:23.45 | JeffM2501 | and the project itself nevetr sees any that go thru SF |
| 02:24.10 | L4m3r | I'd say most donations to the project are not monetary |
| 02:24.15 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 02:24.15 | AAA_awright | In that case donations don't matter |
| 02:24.25 | JeffM2501 | the cloaks can only be given out by 2 people right now |
| 02:24.32 | JeffM2501 | soon to be 3 |
| 02:24.40 | JeffM2501 | and one won't be on much ;) |
| 02:26.54 | AAA_awright | I can see this all getting quickly political. |
| 02:28.02 | JeffM2501 | noone has a right to a cloak |
| 02:28.09 | JeffM2501 | they are like ranks |
| 02:28.13 | Winny | @bzflag/obama/? :P |
| 02:29.34 | L4m3r | no one NEEDS a bzflag cloak |
| 02:29.39 | AAA_awright | @bzflag/fascist/supporter/ |
| 02:29.44 | L4m3r | so if there's too much whining they just won't do it |
| 02:29.44 | AAA_awright | Ditto L4m3r |
| 02:30.27 | AAA_awright | (jk about the fascism for you Obamabots ;) |
| 02:31.57 | short_circuit | Heh.. Pwweeeeeessseeee no politics heheh |
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| 02:36.45 | lol_udied | JeffM2501 are you here? |
| 02:36.55 | JeffM2501 | I am |
| 02:37.10 | JeffM2501 | if you ever use my name for a false statement again, I will reban you, do you understand? |
| 02:37.10 | lol_udied | why is my account inactive? |
| 02:37.15 | JeffM2501 | because I need to talk to you |
| 02:37.16 | lol_udied | WHAT?> |
| 02:37.21 | lol_udied | ok? |
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| 04:50.53 | swigg | is listserv ok? |
| 04:51.22 | swigg | I have internet but cannot connect |
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| 05:51.29 | *** mode/#bzflag-chat [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 05:51.37 | *** topic/#bzflag-chat by JeffM2501 -> Welcome to BZChat; the place to talk about your favorite tank game BZFLAG || http://bzflag.org || Forums http://my.bzflag.org/bb || http://my.bzflag.org/w/MapMaking || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/GettingHelp || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Download || non bzflag chat yields to bzflag chat yields to bzflag help. be kind and civil. this channel is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzchat/ |
| 06:04.03 | *** join/#bzflag-chat bz18 (n=43796959@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 06:04.17 | bz18 | can someone help me? |
| 06:04.37 | JeffM2501 | sure, with what? |
| 06:05.03 | bz18 | how to I make a plugin like on lamer servers to put 2 flags together |
| 06:05.40 | bz18 | can I put V and SR together? |
| 06:05.51 | JeffM2501 | we don't support combo flags |
| 06:06.01 | bz18 | but it is doen on lamer server |
| 06:06.07 | JeffM2501 | it's wierd |
| 06:06.17 | JeffM2501 | he's basicly doing some wierd stuff |
| 06:06.26 | JeffM2501 | replacing shot types, etc.. |
| 06:06.35 | bz18 | I don't beleive that |
| 06:06.47 | bz18 | it must be possbiel |
| 06:06.49 | Flash | notes the irony |
| 06:07.30 | JeffM2501 | fine don't belive me |
| 06:07.42 | JeffM2501 | even if I did write the API |
| 06:07.48 | bz18 | what about makeing a countdown that counts down from 30 then at 0 it sets _tankSpeed 10 0.0001? |
| 06:07.57 | JeffM2501 | sure write it up |
| 06:08.01 | bz18 | os that easy to make? |
| 06:08.03 | JeffM2501 | it's all just C++ |
| 06:08.39 | temp_dist | the existing bzcron plugin can do /set |
| 06:08.42 | JeffM2501 | easy is a loaded question how much C++ do you know? |
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| 06:09.01 | bz18 | just a little bit |
| 06:09.15 | bz18 | I just look at the wiki functions then add it |
| 06:09.31 | JeffM2501 | well you'd have to do some thought and programing, but all the info is there |
| 06:09.42 | JeffM2501 | you have a timer, and can set variables. |
| 06:10.02 | bz18 | I don't have a timer though |
| 06:10.11 | JeffM2501 | sure you do bz_getCurrentTime |
| 06:10.14 | JeffM2501 | returns a double |
| 06:10.20 | JeffM2501 | represents seconds |
| 06:10.23 | JeffM2501 | save it at the start |
| 06:10.32 | JeffM2501 | then in the tick subtract it form the current |
| 06:10.38 | JeffM2501 | if it's been long enough do what you need. |
| 06:10.42 | JeffM2501 | basic math |
| 06:10.55 | bz18 | ok Ill go try something |
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| 07:22.38 | bz18 | someone help me |
| 07:22.41 | bz18 | I need help |
| 07:22.54 | bz18 | my plugin won't compile :( |
| 07:23.14 | Flash | compilation errors are easy; if you can't fix them you are probably over your head ;-) |
| 07:24.17 | bz18 | no but I've tried everything |
| 07:24.21 | bz18 | and jeffm left |
| 07:24.35 | bz18 | he was helping me but now he's gone :'( |
| 07:24.42 | Flash | channels JeffM |
| 07:24.51 | Flash | you haven't tried EVERYTHING |
| 07:24.57 | Flash | or it would be working |
| 07:25.02 | bz18 | rror C2065: 'joininmessage' : undeclared identifier |
| 07:25.20 | Flash | search your code for joininmessage |
| 07:25.23 | bz18 | const char * joiningmessage; sprintf(joininmessage, "Total Players Updated To: %f", totalPlayers); |
| 07:25.29 | Flash | see the typo? |
| 07:25.31 | bz18 | I am trying to send a message to all the users |
| 07:25.45 | bz18 | ohhh I see it |
| 07:25.48 | Flash | but that will crash, so it really doesn't matter much |
| 07:26.16 | bz18 | what am I doing wrong? |
| 07:26.24 | bz18 | I got it right out of the client source |
| 07:26.24 | Flash | do you know what a pointer is? |
| 07:26.41 | bz18 | yes |
| 07:26.49 | Flash | what is is? |
| 07:26.51 | Flash | it? |
| 07:27.01 | bz18 | when you are pointing something out |
| 07:27.15 | Flash | not quite; it is pointing TO something |
| 07:27.22 | bz18 | hmm |
| 07:27.30 | Flash | I mean in C++ code, of course |
| 07:27.42 | bz18 | now I have this!!! |
| 07:27.45 | bz18 | error C2078: too many initializers |
| 07:27.52 | bz18 | I have almost lost hope :( |
| 07:28.14 | Flash | first, you need to learn some basic programming skills; bzflag is NOT the place to learn that |
| 07:28.17 | bz18 | it says the error is here: |
| 07:28.19 | bz18 | sprintf(joiningmessage, "Total Players Updated To: %f", totalPlayers); |
| 07:28.34 | Flash | is there anything else on that line? |
| 07:28.44 | bz18 | what do you mean? |
| 07:29.01 | Flash | I mean, are there any more characters on the line besides the ones you pasted here? |
| 07:29.19 | bz18 | no only what i pasted |
| 07:29.30 | Flash | what is the line before? |
| 07:29.33 | bz18 | but totalPlayers is int is that a prblem? |
| 07:29.47 | Flash | yes, but the compiler may not catch that |
| 07:29.56 | bz18 | so what do I do? |
| 07:30.06 | bz18 | I can't change totalPlayers from int |
| 07:30.07 | Flash | what is the previous line? |
| 07:30.22 | bz18 | previous line is: |
| 07:30.24 | bz18 | const char * joiningmessage; |
| 07:30.47 | bz18 | should i be using const char * joiningmessage[100]; |
| 07:30.56 | bz18 | ? |
| 07:31.06 | Flash | no, just char joiningmessage[100]; |
| 07:31.19 | Flash | you really need to understand about pointers |
| 07:31.29 | bz18 | but bz_sendTextMessage (int from, int to, const char* message); used const chat* |
| 07:31.32 | Flash | also what an initializer is (since you have an error about that) |
| 07:31.54 | Flash | right; it's late and I'm sleep deprived, so I can't teach you C++ tonight |
| 07:32.08 | blast007 | I bet google can though |
| 07:32.11 | bz18 | but it is late here too |
| 07:32.19 | bz18 | and google I hate google |
| 07:32.19 | Flash | you need to learn about pointers, const, and initialization |
| 07:32.26 | bz18 | I don't ever want to use google again |
| 07:32.32 | blast007 | bz18: well what search engine do you prefer? |
| 07:32.46 | bz18 | none I perfer JeffM |
| 07:32.54 | bz18 | :D |
| 07:32.57 | blast007 | yeah, that's not a very good answer |
| 07:33.06 | bz18 | aww :( |
| 07:33.14 | blast007 | if you aren't going to do any work on your own, it really doesn't motivate us to help you at all |
| 07:33.33 | blast007 | we aren't here to hand feed you information that you can easily find on your own |
| 07:33.34 | bz18 | but I am doing work on my own |
| 07:33.40 | blast007 | not really |
| 07:33.46 | Flash | get a book; take a class; learn the basics |
| 07:33.48 | bz18 | I made almost my whole plugin on my own |
| 07:33.58 | BulletCatcher | http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/ has a nice introduction to C++ |
| 07:33.58 | bz18 | but now I have errors |
| 07:34.00 | blast007 | you're copying code from another location and trying to make it work by beating it with a hammer |
| 07:34.15 | bz18 | thats what JeffM said to do |
| 07:34.41 | blast007 | he said to beat it with a hammer? |
| 07:35.03 | Flash | 00:08 <@JeffM2501> easy is a loaded question how much C++ do you know? |
| 07:35.10 | Flash | 00:09 <@JeffM2501> well you'd have to do some thought and programing, but all the info is there |
| 07:35.37 | bz18 | I was talking to him |
| 07:35.48 | bz18 | I am irritated!!!! |
| 07:35.53 | blast007 | that's nice |
| 07:36.05 | blast007 | programming probably isn't for you if you get irritated this easily |
| 07:36.18 | bz18 | I've been working on this all day!!!! |
| 07:36.23 | bz18 | it is not easy!!! |
| 07:36.38 | L4m3r | bz18: start over |
| 07:36.43 | L4m3r | but this time, try starting here: http://l4m3r.bzflag.net/scripts/plugin_starter.php |
| 07:37.07 | bz18 | ooooooh!!! I like that!!! |
| 07:37.13 | L4m3r | that page will generate most of the necessary code for you. add the right events and after that you just need to fill in the operative parts of the code. |
| 07:37.13 | bz18 | :D |
| 07:37.35 | bz18 | ok thx :D |
| 07:37.36 | Flash | but you STILL have to be able to write working code to do the guts of your plugin |
| 07:37.51 | Flash | L4m3r: cool page |
| 07:38.01 | bz18 | your finished! I only listen to l4m3r now! |
| 07:38.07 | L4m3r | it's not perfect but it saves a hell of a lot of time |
| 07:38.16 | L4m3r | you still need to know what to program, bz18 |
| 07:38.25 | blast007 | bz18: yeah, have fun getting help from us with an attitude like that :P |
| 07:38.27 | bz18 | oh ok :D I will learn |
| 07:38.29 | Flash | hears an echo |
| 07:38.43 | L4m3r | but this makes it easier to do the intial setup, which can be a bit complicated for coding newbies |
| 07:39.10 | bz18 | I sent you a pm to earlier today :) |
| 07:39.17 | L4m3r | at the core, most plugins are butt-simple anyway. I'd say that for at least half of the plugins out there, the structure is more complex than the actual plugin logic. |
| 07:39.37 | L4m3r | bz18: if you had looked in the plugin dev forum, you'd have found a link to that same page |
| 07:39.49 | bz18 | I did look |
| 07:40.40 | bz18 | ok brb I will go use that page |
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| 07:41.15 | BulletCatcher | That could have been Sk3letr0n. |
| 07:41.26 | L4m3r | goes ahead and stickified that thread |
| 07:41.37 | L4m3r | BulletCatcher: if it was, he's probably watching still |
| 07:41.38 | blast007 | pfft, it's the right ISP |
| 07:42.31 | L4m3r | well, he PM'd me as "gh0st", an account that was created sep 6 2008 |
| 07:42.58 | blast007 | which might be one of the cheaters |
| 07:43.02 | blast007 | I've heard that name recently |
| 07:43.12 | blast007 | can't recall what about though |
| 07:43.45 | blast007 | hmm, guess that would be an indication |
| 07:43.46 | blast007 | ./#bzchat.log:[23:43:52] -!- Sk3letr0n [n=Gh0st@adsl-68-120-225-250.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has left #bzchat [] |
| 07:43.53 | blast007 | check the part after n= |
| 07:43.58 | L4m3r | lawl |
| 07:44.19 | L4m3r | he's either a really good troll, or much dumber than I thought |
| 07:44.39 | L4m3r | oh wait, this one is a munchkin cheater, right? |
| 07:45.53 | BulletCatcher | I think he is the one who has been impersonating other players on his own server. |
| 07:47.08 | L4m3r | oh well |
| 07:47.30 | L4m3r | server and plugin hacking will not compromise anything really important |
| 07:47.34 | BulletCatcher | If he is writing his own plugin it probably is not something others will appreciate. |
| 07:48.02 | L4m3r | that is the wonderful thing about plugins |
| 07:48.22 | L4m3r | he could make one that stomps puppies, but it can't do anything once players leave his server |
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| 08:55.26 | Pup | constitution |
| 08:55.31 | Pup | can you hep me |
| 08:55.40 | Pup | nvm I got it |
| 09:04.48 | Pup | omg!!! is anyone here? |
| 09:05.06 | Pup | someone ask the infobot who jeffm is |
| 09:05.14 | Pup | watch what it says |
| 09:05.29 | Pup | infobot: who is jeffm? |
| 09:05.29 | infobot | methinks jeffm is a qweer pedofile that rapes little girls all day |
| 09:05.37 | Pup | lol nice |
| 09:05.52 | Pup | infobot: who is nightmare? |
| 09:05.53 | infobot | i guess nightmare is a n00b cheater |
| 09:06.02 | Pup | omg it knows everything |
| 09:07.08 | Pup | infobot: who is constitution? |
| 09:07.10 | infobot | Pup: what are you talking about? |
| 09:07.23 | Pup | hmm maybe it doesn't |
| 09:08.12 | Pup | infobot: don't you know who constituion is? |
| 09:08.38 | Pup | infobot: who is constituion? |
| 09:08.39 | infobot | rumour has it, constituion is a rare species that likes to wear hats |
| 09:08.52 | Pup | LMFAO!!! |
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| 09:34.35 | Pup | hey constitution are you there? |
| 09:35.05 | Pup | infobot: who is constituion? |
| 09:35.06 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, constituion is a rare species that likes to wear hats |
| 09:35.13 | Pup | LOL |
| 09:36.22 | Pup | infobot: who is donny_baker? |
| 09:36.22 | infobot | hmm... donny_baker is a rapist that rapes himself every night before bed |
| 09:36.32 | Pup | lol |
| 09:36.43 | Pup | infobot: who is sk3letr0n? |
| 09:36.44 | infobot | from memory, sk3letr0n is a cheater |
| 09:37.26 | Pup | infobot: who is lol_u died? |
| 09:37.27 | infobot | i heard lol_u died is just another cheater that betrayed his fellow admins |
| 09:37.39 | Pup | damn right! |
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| 11:13.54 | Winny | infobot: forget jeffm |
| 11:13.54 | infobot | i forgot jeffm, Winny |
| 11:14.04 | Winny | infobot: forget donny_baker |
| 11:14.04 | infobot | Winny: i forgot donny_baker |
| 11:14.24 | donny_baker | ~winny++ |
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| 12:16.14 | Constitution | he didn't even spell my name right |
| 12:16.21 | Constitution | ~forget constituion |
| 12:16.21 | infobot | i forgot constituion, Constitution |
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| 15:16.01 | ashgadgets | hello |
| 15:16.12 | me1 | hello |
| 15:41.02 | swigg | hello? |
| 15:41.44 | CBG | HELLO?!?!?! |
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| 17:07.51 | JeffM2501 | donny_baker, try again |
| 17:07.56 | JeffM2501 | here is setup with flags |
| 17:08.00 | JeffM2501 | and it's "wierd" |
| 17:08.28 | *** mode/#bzflag-chat [+o donny_baker] by ChanServ |
| 17:08.36 | JeffM2501 | I missed a * |
| 17:08.37 | JeffM2501 | :( |
| 17:08.38 | donny_baker | :) thanks |
| 17:09.23 | *** mode/#bzflag-chat [-o donny_baker] by ChanServ |
| 17:11.56 | BulletCatcher | Oooh, a new overlord! |
| 17:13.00 | JeffM2501 | just makin sure that there are enouhg to cover what is needed |
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| 17:59.47 | SpazzyMcGee | oh, name change? |
| 18:00.01 | JeffM | yes |
| 18:06.34 | L4m3r | someone should just /topic YES, THE NAME CHANGED. :P |
| 18:07.20 | SpazzyMcGee | lol |
| 18:07.27 | me1 | wonders why this channel is +t, but #bzflag isn't |
| 18:08.19 | JeffM2501 | cus this one is like new |
| 18:08.24 | JeffM2501 | and made from scratch |
| 18:08.33 | JeffM2501 | with like flags ands tuff |
| 18:08.44 | L4m3r | takes the Agility flag |
| 18:09.15 | CBG | T FTW. |
| 18:09.27 | SpazzyMcGee | capture's L4m3r's team flag |
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| 18:14.01 | *** mode/#bzflag-chat [+o JeffM] by ChanServ |
| 18:14.05 | JeffM | cool, still works |
| 18:14.10 | *** mode/#bzflag-chat [-o JeffM] by JeffM |
| 18:14.32 | *** mode/#bzflag-chat [+o JeffM] by ChanServ |
| 18:14.34 | *** topic/#bzflag-chat by JeffM -> Welcome to BZChat; the place to talk about your favorite tank game BZFLAG || http://bzflag.org || Forums http://my.bzflag.org/bb || http://my.bzflag.org/w/MapMaking || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/GettingHelp || http://my.BZFlag.org/w/Download || non bzflag chat yields to bzflag chat yields to bzflag help. be kind and civil. this channel is logged at http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzchat/ || Yes the channel name changed. |
| 18:14.39 | *** mode/#bzflag-chat [-o JeffM] by JeffM |
| 18:14.48 | L4m3r | hehe |
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| 20:34.17 | comeandgetit | hey all |
| 20:34.47 | JeffM | hello |
| 20:39.24 | comeandgetit | sup |
| 20:39.57 | comeandgetit | any tips on creating a server |
| 20:40.08 | Winny | reading the forum |
| 20:40.10 | Winny | and the wiki |
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| 20:40.20 | JeffM | yeah depends on what you want to do wiht it |
| 20:40.22 | comeandgetit | i am |
| 20:41.03 | comeandgetit | i just want a simple server with normal settings. i have a map, i just want to find out how to make it public |
| 20:41.16 | JeffM | are you behind a router? |
| 20:42.25 | comeandgetit | yes |
| 20:42.35 | JeffM | you need to configure it |
| 20:42.45 | comeandgetit | brain tangling |
| 20:42.55 | JeffM | then hosting a server is not for you |
| 20:43.11 | Winny | many people will host maps for you |
| 20:43.16 | comeandgetit | no 1 will do it for me |
| 20:43.26 | JeffM | wynt? |
| 20:43.38 | comeandgetit | host my map |
| 20:43.50 | JeffM | y |
| 20:43.51 | F687s | Is it on the BZBB? |
| 20:44.04 | JeffM | cz u cheatZ? LOL? |
| 20:44.14 | comeandgetit | i dont cheat |
| 20:44.19 | JeffM | you did |
| 20:44.21 | comeandgetit | i am done doing that |
| 20:44.26 | JeffM | then give it some time |
| 20:44.26 | comeandgetit | FROEVER |
| 20:44.32 | JeffM | people ain't gonna trust you in a day |
| 20:44.43 | comeandgetit | i can proove im true |
| 20:45.03 | Winny | comeandgetit: bans are made on a server by server basis |
| 20:45.09 | Winny | you need to complain to the server owners |
| 20:45.13 | Winny | if they say no, end of discussion |
| 20:45.22 | Winny | no amount of "plzlzzz!" will help |
| 20:45.41 | comeandgetit | its other admins that are banning me |
| 20:45.43 | F687s | ~Winny++ |
| 20:46.20 | me1 | tell the server owner that they are banning you, and if they shouldn't ban you, the server owner will usually tell them to stop |
| 20:46.43 | comeandgetit | how can i find out who owns the server? |
| 20:47.31 | me1 | Ask? |
| 20:47.43 | comeandgetit | oh DUH lol |
| 20:48.09 | comeandgetit | does anyone want to come to king arthurs playground with me? |
| 20:48.30 | comeandgetit | ill be there |
| 20:49.17 | comeandgetit | so........ |
| 20:49.27 | comeandgetit | come on guys |
| 20:49.40 | comeandgetit | its fun there |
| 20:49.43 | me1 | Not everyone is here, and not everyone who is here can play bzflag at the moment |
| 20:49.49 | Winny | or wants to play |
| 20:49.55 | comeandgetit | do you want to? |
| 20:50.03 | me1 | Yeah... it's not exactly a fun map :| |
| 20:50.03 | F687s | See above. ;-) |
| 20:50.09 | Think_Differentl | boolean comeandgetit = true; |
| 20:50.26 | Think_Differentl | is that how you plan to prove it? |
| 20:50.40 | comeandgetit | i can show you guys |
| 20:50.55 | JeffM | like I said last night dude, it's going to take weeks and months for you to re-earn the respect |
| 20:51.06 | JeffM | so just chill and play for a few weeks |
| 20:51.07 | *** join/#bzflag-chat L4m3r (n=l4m3r@bzflag/developer/L4m3r) |
| 20:52.03 | comeandgetit | ok but im banned from nearly all servers |
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| 20:52.23 | JeffM | then you should go and talk privately to one that you are banned on and convince them to lift the ban |
| 20:52.26 | JeffM | one at a time |
| 20:52.34 | JeffM | it will take lots of hard work |
| 20:53.15 | comeandgetit | due to my ex cheating and my friend cheater and i have the same ips so he gets me banned from many places |
| 20:54.35 | comeandgetit | its hard to find them |
| 20:54.49 | JeffM | well you should have thought about that before you started |
| 20:55.01 | JeffM | I'm sorry that you've made a mess of your rep, but that's what you get for what you did, |
| 20:55.55 | comeandgetit | i will never cheat again, thats FINAL! |
| 20:56.34 | JeffM | good |
| 20:56.40 | JeffM | but that dosn't make people trust you |
| 20:56.51 | JeffM | again, go play for a month or so and see what you can do then |
| 20:57.10 | comeandgetit | ill try |
| 20:58.01 | comeandgetit | so whos up for some bz |
| 20:58.15 | comeandgetit | anyone......?.?.??? |
| 20:58.19 | me1 | <me1> Not everyone is here, and not everyone who is here can play bzflag at the moment |
| 20:58.32 | comeandgetit | yah |
| 20:58.43 | comeandgetit | some can play |
| 20:59.24 | comeandgetit | ill be at king arthur |
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| 21:03.33 | comeandgetit | still at king arthur |
| 21:05.04 | SportChick | comeandgetit: I'm not sure the channel needs/wants a status report of your whereabouts every 5 minutes :-/ |
| 21:05.38 | comeandgetit | youre friendly |
| 21:05.47 | JeffM | she's also right |
| 21:05.54 | JeffM | that's not what this place is for |
| 21:06.05 | SportChick | comeandgetit: actually, I am :) |
| 21:07.23 | comeandgetit | sorry i got off track |
| 21:08.39 | SportChick | comeandgetit: it happens :) just learn from your mistakes and move on |
| 21:09.03 | comeandgetit | ok |
| 21:11.16 | SportChick | comeandgetit: EVERYONE makes mistakes. It's what you do about them that reveals your mettle |
| 21:17.31 | I_Died_Once | maybe we should get a place that tells everyone where we are playing |
| 21:17.46 | me1 | maybe some sort of stats site? |
| 21:17.58 | SportChick | strayer used to have a stats site |
| 21:18.05 | I_Died_Once | "Darth Vader has left Planet MoFo and joined Two Tanks" |
| 21:18.10 | SportChick | there were a few stats sites actually |
| 21:18.18 | comeandgetit | oh |
| 21:18.27 | I_Died_Once | I used to like to come on h ere and make little challenged or whatever |
| 21:18.41 | blast007 | "bztwitter, because you think that everyone cares" |
| 21:18.52 | comeandgetit | go here http://my.bzflag.org/playersearch.php |
| 21:18.56 | I_Died_Once | or try to invite people to games I was hosting |
| 21:19.07 | I_Died_Once | not spam, so much... |
| 21:19.12 | I_Died_Once | least i never thought so |
| 21:19.53 | SportChick | actually that's why I started playing under aliases so much...sometimes you don't WANT to be found..you just wanna play |
| 21:30.44 | Think_Differentl | chooses just not to play |
| 21:30.50 | Think_Differentl | in that case, at least |
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| 22:31.38 | L4m3r | http://temp.l4m3r.net/bzceiling.jpg :) |
| 22:32.17 | L4m3r | found a projector in the trash today |
| 22:35.07 | CBG | If you find a working 8800* or 9800* let me know - I can pay shipping! |
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| 22:35.52 | L4m3r | lol |
| 22:36.22 | L4m3r | I don't think I could find a RADEON 9800, let alone a GeForce 9800 :P |
| 22:36.36 | CBG | You never know.. |
| 22:37.01 | TD-Linux | L4m3r: what |
| 22:37.02 | TD-Linux | ? |
| 22:37.06 | TD-Linux | A PROJECTOR IN THE TRASH? |
| 22:37.07 | TD-Linux | also |
| 22:37.11 | TD-Linux | we have a projector too |
| 22:37.17 | TD-Linux | replaced our TV :) |
| 22:37.19 | L4m3r | heh |
| 22:37.26 | L4m3r | that is not a good thing to use a projector for |
| 22:37.31 | L4m3r | bulbs are expensive :( |
| 22:37.44 | TD-Linux | ours is awesomely bright even on low power mode |
| 22:37.56 | TD-Linux | its lasted two years |
| 22:38.53 | L4m3r | mine's ok. with all the lights on it's rather dim. |
| 22:39.07 | L4m3r | no idea how long this bulb will last |
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| 23:04.43 | TD-Linux | I think we're half into the bulb's rated life |
| 23:05.32 | blast007 | that's what they want you to think |
| 23:07.26 | TD-Linux | no, it's more like a printer cartridge |
| 23:07.31 | TD-Linux | it warns you when you are past those hours |
| 23:07.46 | TD-Linux | I pulled out the bulb once to see what it looked like |
| 23:07.52 | TD-Linux | it was just a huge metal box |
| 23:07.57 | TD-Linux | with some rainbowy filter on the side |
| 23:08.03 | TD-Linux | also, I got a speck of dust in it |
| 23:08.07 | TD-Linux | which blew out after a week |
| 23:08.16 | CBG | More expensive to replace compared to buying a new projector with twice as many features and even more expensive bulbs??! |
| 23:08.20 | TD-Linux | but was kind of annoying, on the edge of the picture, sometimes visible :/ |
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| 23:08.32 | TD-Linux | CBG, a bulb runs about $300 |
| 23:08.36 | TD-Linux | if this one burns out |
| 23:08.38 | SilentKiller | Hi |
| 23:08.40 | TD-Linux | I'm going to dissassemble the assembly |
| 23:08.47 | SilentKiller | Can someone help me out? |
| 23:08.50 | TD-Linux | and see if I can replace the bulb without the rest of it |
| 23:08.57 | TD-Linux | I could save myself $290 |
| 23:09.01 | TD-Linux | SilentKiller, just ask |
| 23:09.09 | SilentKiller | How do I login on bzflag? |
| 23:09.23 | TD-Linux | on the Join Game screen |
| 23:09.25 | SilentKiller | I cant type on a server.. And I heard its because I need to be logged in? |
| 23:09.32 | TD-Linux | yeah |
| 23:09.45 | TD-Linux | make sure to put your username AND PASSWORD on the Join Screen page |
| 23:09.55 | me1 | are you registered at the forums? |
| 23:10.03 | me1 | oh yeah, forums irc :| |
| 23:10.03 | TD-Linux | register your nick if necessary at http://my.bzflag.org/bb |
| 23:10.30 | me1 | SilentKiller, use the username and password you use for the forums for the username and password feild in bzflag |
| 23:13.07 | SilentKiller | Thanks |
| 23:13.08 | SilentKiller | Bye. |
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