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01:27.53flying_popcornwhere can i find the documentation for creating plugins?
01:28.14flying_popcornthe faq said /plugins/docs folder in the source code but the docs folder doesnt exists
01:28.15blast007the wiki and the forum
01:29.29flying_popcornis there anywhere else i can get them? Icouldnt find much plugin information on the wiki
01:30.13blast007read the code then  ;)
01:30.21blast007that's all there is
01:30.31flying_popcornok
01:30.37flying_popcornthx
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06:37.01Gaser02 Hi
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16:44.15ggShheo all
16:49.06blast007goodbye
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17:03.23_Astromanhey, is spin 90 1 1 0 considered correct coding?
17:04.06blast007what do the docs say?
17:04.24_Astromani don't know, where can i find them?
17:04.33blast007looks like it to me
17:04.38blast007are you on Windows?
17:04.40_Astromanyes
17:04.53blast007there is documentation links in the start menu for BZW
17:05.00_Astromanokay
17:05.02blast007you can also look on the bzflag wiki
17:05.06blast007http://my.bzflag.org/w/
17:05.21_Astromanthe thing is, when i do that i get an error about trasformations of something
17:05.40blast007a warning about 2.0.0?
17:05.43_Astromanright
17:05.54_Astroman*of = or
17:05.56blast007you can probably ignore that
17:05.59_Astromanokay
17:06.05_Astromanthat's what ive been doing
17:06.11blast007I think the behavior was changed from what it did in 2.0.0
17:06.18blast007it was broken or something
17:06.38_Astromanso just ignore the errors and continune like nothing was amiss?
17:06.46blast007it's a warning, not an error
17:06.52_Astromani see
17:07.13_Astromanso nothing is actually "wrong"
17:07.53_Astromanokay, thank you
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17:27.08bznoobhi
17:27.12bznoobi need some help
17:27.21blast007sure
17:27.23blast007what's up?
17:27.44bznoobi've managed to silence all the messages, that's mine and other peoples
17:27.52bznooband i dont know how to undo it
17:29.03blast007join a game, press 'k', type *, and press enter
17:29.09bznoobthanks
17:29.21blast007np
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22:20.45Rudyhello?
22:21.23JeffMhi
22:21.26Guest44054i neeed help with something
22:21.30JeffMk
22:21.40Guest44054i tryed downloading bzflag but it doesnt work
22:21.52me1how so?
22:21.59JeffMthe download dosn't work or installing it dosn't work?
22:22.11Guest44054installing
22:22.22JeffMwhat OS are you on?
22:22.30Guest44054it keeps saying unknown publisher and wont work
22:22.36JeffMahh windows
22:22.48JeffMsounds like a security setting on your system
22:22.56JeffMyour parents lock the computer down?
22:23.04Guest44054no
22:23.14JeffMare you a system administrator?
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22:26.01Rudyok im back
22:26.04JeffMok
22:26.10Rudyinternet froze
22:26.19JeffMsoudns like your system has issues
22:26.26JeffMwhat version of windows do you have?
22:26.52Guest25032your doing that becasue the admins dont like Zeebrothers?
22:27.10Guest25032...nevermind that
22:27.24JeffMwe block the zee one because it is only used for abbuse. our web IRC is just fine
22:27.39Guest25032oh
22:27.41JeffMtheres was good when we didn't have one, now we do, so there is no need for theres.
22:27.50JeffMwhat version of windows are you on?
22:27.50Guest25032we'll how do i fix my problem
22:28.01Guest25032?
22:28.02JeffMlisten and answer the questions
22:28.09JeffMwhat version of windows are you using?
22:28.22Guest25032i dont really know
22:28.29JeffMwho does?
22:28.32JeffMwho set up the comptuer?
22:28.37Guest25032me
22:28.46JeffMso you should know what version of windows you installed
22:28.49JeffMXP, vista, etc...
22:29.00Guest25032vista
22:29.05JeffMthere you go
22:29.18JeffMok, is your account a system administrator?
22:29.25Guest25032yes sir
22:29.37JeffMyou sure?
22:29.43Guest25032yea
22:29.46JeffMcus your security pollicy is blocking the installer
22:29.57JeffMbasicly your computer won't run the installer because it dosn't know where it came from
22:30.12blast007isn't there an "allow" button?
22:30.19JeffMthere may be
22:30.27JeffMthere should be in the default security pollicy
22:30.34blast007yeah
22:30.45Guest25032default?
22:30.57JeffMget your parents to help you
22:31.08Guest25032as in i can use another security policy?
22:31.20Guest25032oh my parents know very little
22:31.37Guest25032im the one that does all the computer stuff
22:31.37JeffMwell it dosn't seem like you are that experienced in using your comptuer ether
22:31.52JeffMwhat is the exact error message it says when you try to install it?
22:32.19blast007is it this kind of message? http://www.ntwind.com/assets/images/utilities/unidentified_uac.png
22:33.05Guest25032yes sir
22:33.14JeffMthen hit the allow button
22:33.35Guest25032wait...
22:34.01Guest25032it doesnt say that
22:34.07JeffMwhat does it say?
22:34.18Guest25032Unknown publisher
22:34.31JeffMI am sure it says more then that
22:34.43JeffMwhat does the error message FULLy say?
22:34.53Guest25032oh ok
22:35.04JeffMwe can not read your mind
22:35.58Guest25032my brother is talking stuff in my ear about how the IRC is a chat for predators
22:36.08Guest25032cant think straight
22:36.20JeffMhonestly that is none of our biz.
22:36.26Winny...so is MSN, AIM, Yahoo, usergroups, usenet, and the phone!
22:36.26Guest25032ok im gonna give you guys a link
22:37.04Guest25032and srry for bringing that up sir
22:37.13JeffMyou don't have to call anyone sir
22:37.35Winnyunless they're over 65 and english ;)
22:37.36JeffMwe are just trying to help you and you arn't giving us much to go on.
22:37.56JeffMdon't listen to Winny
22:38.11Winnymost people don't anyways :)
22:38.22JeffMwell you ARE canadian
22:38.35Winnyexactly
22:41.29blast007*poof*
22:42.03Winnyhe'll be back
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22:43.31Rudyok the installation is almost done so i can pop up the link for you Jeff
22:43.46blast007what link?
22:43.54JeffMso it installs ok?
22:44.02Guest37271yes
22:44.06JeffMdoes it give you the error when you run? or when you install?
22:44.14JeffMok, cus you said it was an instalelr problem
22:44.24JeffMis it asking you to allow bzflag to connect to the internet?
22:44.34JeffMdoes it say "unblock" anywhere?
22:44.40Guest37271nope
22:44.54Winnygive us a screenshot of what it says
22:45.05JeffMthat's what he's going to do IIRC
22:45.12Winnyk
22:45.53Guest37271ni used to have a mIrc dont know what happened to it
22:47.39WinnyGuest37271: can you upload a screenshot of the error please?
22:47.47Guest37271yes... im having trouble with the screenshot
22:48.29Winnywhat kind of problems?
22:48.35Guest37271nope it wont let me
22:48.42JeffMjust type in what it says
22:48.57Guest37271(sigh)
22:49.06WinnyType it in. Fully.
22:49.11Guest37271ok
22:53.11Guest37271Name:bzflag-2.0.exe,Publisher:Unknown publisher. the publisher can not be verified.are you sure you want to run this siftware
22:53.26Guest37271software*
22:53.28JeffMis there a yes button?
22:53.30Winny..so click OK or yes, or allow, or whatever it says
22:54.44Guest37271uh oh
22:54.52Guest37271it says
22:55.55Guest37271error opening file for writing.C:/Program Files/Bzflag2.010/bzflag.exe
22:56.20Winnyso you don't have the right permissions
22:56.30Guest37271aw
22:56.31JeffMyou ain't an admin
22:57.18Guest37271click abort to stop installation,Retry to try again,orIgnore to skip this file
22:57.34Guest37271Ignore?
22:57.41Winnyabort
22:57.42blast007abort
22:57.48Winnyyou can't write to the directory
22:57.52blast007right click on the installer file and say "Run as Administrator"
22:58.45Winnyhttp://sadtrombone.com
22:59.06JeffMyou are not helping Winny
22:59.14Winnyhe left
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23:00.12Rudythank you guys it works perfect now
23:01.23Guest38158thanks guys : )
23:02.01blast007what helped? running the installer as Administrator?
23:02.10Winnyout of curiosity, why do you keep changing your name to Guest38158?
23:02.18JeffMhe was never installing it
23:02.29JeffMWinny: cus rudy is taken
23:02.32blast007JeffM: no, he was getting denied write access
23:02.48JeffMblast007: yes, for writing the files to the program files dir ;)
23:03.05JeffMby defauylt that is locked out
23:03.07blast007well, you said he was never installing it
23:03.14JeffMhe was trying to
23:03.14blast007he WAS running the installer
23:03.18JeffMyeah
23:03.21JeffMthe installer can run
23:03.31JeffMbut by default vista dosnt' give write access to ANYTHING to the program files dir
23:03.33blast007maybe it doesn't let Vista know it needs admin rights?
23:03.39JeffMyeah probably
23:03.47JeffMsince its' not MSI it dosn't know it's an installer
23:04.10JeffMI'm sure newer versions of NSIS fix it
23:04.24JeffMit's imbeded manifest stuff
23:06.36blast007the 2.0.10 one seems to work on my system, but after it complete, Vista says it might not have completed properly
23:06.54JeffMheh
23:07.08JeffMtry the 2.0.0 one
23:09.01blast007with a clean install, it doesn't complain, but yeah, let me try an older one
23:13.33blast0072.0.0 works, 1.10.0 works, 1.7g2 works...
23:13.57blast007but the old custom installer that was used (like for 1.7e2) fails ;)
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