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00:35.40 | Fredjikrang | bwahahaha! It lives! |
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16:21.54 | wps | welcome |
16:28.22 | ArchAngelNix | Howdy |
16:29.01 | ArchAngelNix | What are you most excited for this morning wps? |
16:31.55 | wps | I am most interested in AppleTV |
16:32.01 | wps | (movie rentals and DVR) |
16:32.13 | ArchAngelNix | Here, here! |
16:32.38 | ArchAngelNix | I don't think they will go DVR though. That would cut into the profits that the AppleTV leans to |
16:35.15 | wps | yeah |
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16:44.35 | ArchAngelNix | Morning aesplin |
16:44.42 | ArchAngelNix | Excited yet? |
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16:48.05 | jhmaughan | sup :) |
16:50.04 | wps | ten minutes |
16:52.21 | ArchAngelNix | Yay! |
16:53.04 | jhmaughan | good times |
16:53.09 | jhmaughan | you all using Macrumors or what? |
16:53.16 | wps | I am |
16:53.23 | wps | sounds like the doors are opening |
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16:55.05 | ArchAngelNix | I am using Macrumors and Engadget |
16:55.30 | ArchAngelNix | The question is are you using Macrumors site or IRC channel |
16:56.30 | wps | I'm using IRC |
16:57.55 | ArchAngelNix | I didn't see it advertised on their site. |
16:58.18 | aesplin | macrumors is the only way to fly |
16:58.27 | jhmaughan | two min :) |
16:58.35 | aesplin | usually the guy taking notes does _extremely_ well |
16:58.39 | ArchAngelNix | What is their IRC channel info? |
16:59.09 | wps | server: irc.krono.net |
16:59.15 | wps | channel: #macrumors |
17:00.15 | wps | here we go! |
17:05.36 | jhmaughan | hmm...i can't do two at once it seems |
17:05.45 | jhmaughan | i was going to try to join that macrumors channel too |
17:09.06 | aesplin | there's not much happening over there |
17:09.12 | jhmaughan | oh okay |
17:09.15 | aesplin | lots of people joining and leaving |
17:09.16 | wps | yeah… must be taking a long time to get everyone seated |
17:09.18 | aesplin | no updates |
17:09.20 | aesplin | yet... |
17:09.23 | jhmaughan | i suppose the browser is fast enough anyway |
17:09.27 | jhmaughan | the macrumorslive.com |
17:09.37 | aesplin | yeah |
17:09.56 | aesplin | somebody over there posted a link to a live stream but it's slashdotted already |
17:10.31 | aesplin | I pretty much only ever used macrumorslive |
17:11.13 | aesplin | I don't usually get to wrapped around the axle about something that its easier for me to read now and download later |
17:11.14 | wps | same |
17:11.23 | jhmaughan | gotcha |
17:11.27 | wps | must started in the hall |
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17:11.57 | jhmaughan | ha, we get better attendance here than at BYUMUG meetings ;0 |
17:12.28 | aesplin | I actually went to a MUG meeting a little while ago |
17:12.34 | cmkilger | sorry, meetings are always at bad times for me |
17:12.38 | wps | me too |
17:12.46 | aesplin | when is the next one? |
17:13.02 | aesplin | is it always a set time or do they just get announced? |
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17:13.59 | Fredjikrang | What did I miss? |
17:14.04 | aesplin | nothing much |
17:14.26 | aesplin | this is a perfect time for me to be babysitting a backup... |
17:14.31 | aesplin | :) |
17:14.41 | Fredjikrang | lol |
17:14.49 | wps | wahoo |
17:14.51 | wps | steve's on stage |
17:14.51 | Fredjikrang | any good live feeds? |
17:15.01 | aesplin | all the one's I've checked are slashdotted |
17:15.29 | Fredjikrang | Yeah, macrumors isn't loading for me. |
17:15.40 | wps | a live feed would have to be crappy |
17:16.03 | wps | there aren't any that are official, so anything anyone is trying to do would have to be through a phone… which means that quality would be awful |
17:16.16 | Fredjikrang | Not live video, just live updates. |
17:16.17 | wps | "four things to talk about today" |
17:16.37 | Fredjikrang | just text updates is fine |
17:17.52 | Fredjikrang | Yay, macrumors loaded! |
17:19.44 | Fredjikrang | Time Capsule? |
17:19.57 | wps | Grubber was right |
17:20.05 | Fredjikrang | What's that supposed to be? |
17:20.08 | wps | an external hard drive with wireless |
17:20.14 | Fredjikrang | hmmm |
17:21.31 | Fredjikrang | Man, today could be a big day! Five minutes in and a new product already! |
17:21.35 | aesplin | I'd pay $300 for a 500 Gb Airport |
17:22.02 | jhmaughan | no kidding, i excpetd more intro |
17:22.16 | Fredjikrang | I just hope this means that they are officially enabling NAS storage on regular airport's. |
17:22.35 | jhmaughan | ha, i'm not sure i'd cll Leopard teh most successful, seems pretty buggy to me :) |
17:22.37 | jhmaughan | lol |
17:22.50 | aesplin | no java 6 |
17:22.52 | aesplin | grrrr |
17:22.54 | Fredjikrang | I haven't had any real issues with leaopard. |
17:23.23 | Fredjikrang | Ooo. 4 million iPhones already! |
17:24.10 | wps | Apple already has 20% of the smartphone market |
17:24.13 | aesplin | dang |
17:24.13 | wps | only second behind RIM |
17:24.22 | jhmaughan | wow, that's huge |
17:24.24 | nacheen | in the pic of the iphone in steve's power point... the iTunes store is on the left... not the right |
17:24.39 | jhmaughan | probably flipped the image |
17:24.41 | nacheen | http://s3.media.macrumorslive.com/p/m1200417723.jpg |
17:24.55 | nacheen | no... the other icons are where they should be |
17:25.19 | Fredjikrang | Well, they are supposed to be updating the firmware soon anyway. |
17:25.30 | nacheen | today i hope |
17:25.43 | aesplin | looks like it |
17:26.01 | Fredjikrang | New software of some kind. |
17:26.42 | Fredjikrang | Yup. |
17:26.53 | Fredjikrang | Looks like the rumored update. |
17:29.12 | nacheen | i like the maps w/ location |
17:29.19 | nacheen | i've been wanting that for a while |
17:30.09 | aesplin | I assume this will be for the iPod Touch as well? |
17:30.12 | jhmaughan | does the iPhone have GPS built in? |
17:30.20 | aesplin | I dunno |
17:30.21 | nacheen | no |
17:30.24 | aesplin | don't have one |
17:30.27 | Fredjikrang | no GPS, it uses the cell phone towers to find your location. |
17:30.33 | aesplin | might get a Touch when/if my nano dies |
17:30.41 | nacheen | it will triangulate between cell towers and give an about spot |
17:31.09 | jhmaughan | that's pretty good then, close enough? |
17:31.16 | aesplin | ideally |
17:31.18 | Fredjikrang | Should be pretty good. |
17:31.28 | Fredjikrang | Won't work on the touch obviously. |
17:33.20 | Fredjikrang | Okay. Enough iPhone. Move on. |
17:33.27 | aesplin | seriously |
17:35.33 | wps | what? |
17:35.46 | wps | i'm surprised their charging for the software update |
17:36.05 | wps | they're |
17:36.16 | aesplin | they are? |
17:36.25 | jhmaughan | ouch... |
17:36.35 | feutetejsd | huh? for the iPhone update? how much? |
17:36.38 | aesplin | oh, the ipdate for the Touch |
17:36.39 | jhmaughan | i suppose enough people won't care |
17:36.41 | aesplin | update |
17:36.51 | jhmaughan | oh, so not the phone |
17:37.02 | aesplin | that's what it looks like |
17:38.00 | Fredjikrang | Lame. |
17:38.15 | Fredjikrang | $20 for 5 widgets? Ripoff. |
17:38.46 | nacheen | rentals. but how much |
17:38.52 | aesplin | ... |
17:39.04 | wps | every major studio on board |
17:39.12 | jhmaughan | ha, these rumor mills are getting more accurate all the time |
17:39.36 | Fredjikrang | Well, I just hope they were accurate about the new laptop. |
17:39.41 | Fredjikrang | Or understimated it. |
17:39.54 | wps | daddy wants a new AppleTV |
17:40.05 | jhmaughan | lol |
17:40.24 | wps | 1000 movies available today… each new available 30 days after DVD release |
17:40.42 | Fredjikrang | 30 days!? |
17:40.53 | wps | dumb, huh |
17:40.58 | aesplin | good thing they had that sponsor thing in there, cuz I couldn't see that big MacHeist banner on the site |
17:40.59 | wps | the studios are idiots |
17:41.02 | Fredjikrang | Man, those studios are stingy! |
17:41.04 | aesplin | amen |
17:41.13 | wps | I was just thinking the same thing, aesplin |
17:41.20 | wps | I'm so sick of hearing about MacHeist |
17:41.21 | jhmaughan | lol |
17:41.30 | Fredjikrang | Can watch on your iPhone, iPod though. |
17:41.33 | jhmaughan | funny how we all noticed |
17:41.33 | wps | what's the difference between renting a DVD in person or online? |
17:41.46 | Fredjikrang | Studios charge more for online. |
17:41.48 | aesplin | watch anywhere |
17:41.48 | wps | that price is too high |
17:41.50 | wps | that's stupid |
17:41.51 | aesplin | watch instantly |
17:41.54 | aesplin | blah blah |
17:41.57 | wps | $3 normal, $4 new release |
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17:42.08 | jhmaughan | how much to buy a movie on iTunes? |
17:42.27 | Fredjikrang | $10-$15 |
17:42.28 | aesplin | I barely pay $4 to watch movies in the theater |
17:42.34 | Fredjikrang | no kidding |
17:42.36 | wps | same |
17:42.41 | wps | I only dollar theater and redbox |
17:42.42 | nacheen | too much to rent |
17:42.51 | aesplin | ditto wps |
17:42.52 | jhmaughan | they are a buck cheaper than Comcast, maybe they are pricing for the on-demand market? |
17:42.56 | Fredjikrang | If I really want to see it I'll go early matinee |
17:43.01 | aesplin | probably |
17:43.01 | theletterh__ | one month after DVD release? c'mon |
17:43.03 | wps | whey rent for $4 when you can buy previously vied for $8 and own it |
17:43.16 | aesplin | or they're pricing for their "creative professional" market and not for students? |
17:43.18 | Fredjikrang | My question exactly. |
17:43.40 | wps | AND |
17:43.42 | wps | the biggest thing |
17:43.45 | aesplin | I wonder how long it will take to crack the DRM on the rentals... |
17:44.03 | wps | is even if it was only a $1 to rend, I'm still not going to do it if I can only watch it on my computer/iPod/iPhone |
17:44.09 | feutetejsd | movie rentals in HD or Standard def? |
17:44.16 | Fredjikrang | I might pay $3, but four is definitely too much. |
17:44.19 | wps | agreed |
17:44.27 | aesplin | HD is what the rumor mills have been saying |
17:44.43 | Fredjikrang | But no official word yet. |
17:44.46 | Fredjikrang | I doubt HD. |
17:44.50 | wps | it's true! |
17:44.51 | wps | HD |
17:45.00 | wps | and the new AppleTV doen't require a computer |
17:45.13 | wps | straight from the internet to your computer with DVD or HD quality |
17:45.16 | jhmaughan | dang it, you all keep spoiling it :) |
17:45.18 | Fredjikrang | Where you getting your updates wps? |
17:45.26 | jhmaughan | i shoudl refresh and get earlier in the update |
17:45.30 | wps | macrumors IRC channel |
17:45.40 | Fredjikrang | DVD and HD. So not all HD, or you have an option? |
17:45.42 | Fredjikrang | Ahhh |
17:45.48 | Fredjikrang | What server is the IRC on? |
17:46.02 | wps | irc.kronos.net |
17:46.38 | Fredjikrang | hmm, not working for me. |
17:46.53 | wps | HD $5 |
17:47.07 | wps | sorry, it's irc.krono.net |
17:47.43 | jhmaughan | oh, a ha |
17:49.17 | jhmaughan | what's $800? |
17:49.22 | jhmaughan | that's a load! |
17:49.49 | wps | Time Capsule (1TB) + AppleTV (assumed price of $300) |
17:50.02 | theletterh__ | anyone know if Digis throttles bandwidth? I'd like the HD rentals, but I think their "Unlimited internet" isn't unlimited |
17:50.29 | Fredjikrang | no idea |
17:50.32 | feutetejsd | I'm still not sold on AppleTV, though. if I could download a movie in HD for keeps, maybe, but I think I'll pass on the rentals |
17:51.00 | Fredjikrang | I'm betting the price goes up. |
17:51.08 | Fredjikrang | But I could be wrong. |
17:51.15 | Fredjikrang | Actually, I take that back. |
17:51.25 | Fredjikrang | I don't know what I'm talking about. |
17:52.08 | Fredjikrang | Another message from their sponsor! |
17:52.14 | aesplin | same one |
17:52.24 | aesplin | in case we still can't see the banner |
17:52.29 | Fredjikrang | Same sponsor, but the message is different for me. |
17:52.32 | Fredjikrang | ;) |
17:54.21 | aesplin | well, if that's all they've got, this has been kind of a bust |
17:54.24 | aesplin | for me anyway |
17:54.34 | wps | they're not done yet |
17:54.38 | Fredjikrang | They started 15 mins late, so you never know. |
17:54.45 | nacheen | i already have an (Apple)TV |
17:54.49 | wps | he said there were four things |
17:54.52 | nacheen | i don't want to buy another one |
17:54.55 | wps | he's only on the third thing |
17:55.11 | aesplin | ahhh |
17:55.16 | aesplin | for some reason I was thinking this was #4 |
17:55.19 | wps | and then there's usually "one more thing" after that |
17:55.21 | Fredjikrang | Maybe you can pay for an update. (hehe.) |
17:56.00 | jhmaughan | lol |
17:57.03 | Fredjikrang | New apple TV interface is interesting. |
17:57.11 | jhmaughan | yeah i was noticing that |
17:57.28 | aesplin | like the new Front Row, kind of |
17:58.15 | Fredjikrang | Wo hoo. Now you can have a photo screen saver on your TV! /sarcasm |
17:58.31 | Fredjikrang | Might be a nice feature every once and a while, but still. |
17:58.49 | aesplin | rats |
17:58.55 | aesplin | I have to go home in a few minutes |
17:59.23 | Fredjikrang | I'm sorry. Especially since you are probably going to miss the best part. :) |
17:59.30 | aesplin | grrrr |
17:59.55 | wps | cool… you can buy music through the AppleTV! |
17:59.59 | wps | that's awesome |
18:00.00 | Fredjikrang | That is nice. |
18:00.17 | Fredjikrang | Probably used some of the code from the iPhone update. |
18:00.18 | nacheen | i'm hoping for a software update |
18:00.40 | Fredjikrang | Free or fee? |
18:01.30 | wps | new AppleTV is a free software update (for those that already have AppleTVs) |
18:01.37 | nacheen | FREE!!!! YAHOO!!!! |
18:01.40 | Fredjikrang | Congrats nacheen! |
18:01.43 | wps | awesome… and the price dropped seventy dollars |
18:01.47 | Fredjikrang | nice |
18:01.55 | Fredjikrang | Same capacity? |
18:02.00 | wps | haven't said yet |
18:02.24 | wps | s/start/starts/ |
18:02.34 | Fredjikrang | lol |
18:03.07 | wps | this will be a great valentines gift to myself |
18:03.11 | Fredjikrang | lol |
18:03.25 | Fredjikrang | Isn't monday a holiday? |
18:03.40 | aesplin | I think so |
18:03.45 | wps | blah… blah… blah |
18:03.52 | wps | who care? |
18:03.55 | wps | who cares? |
18:03.56 | Fredjikrang | lol |
18:04.02 | aesplin | not me |
18:04.09 | aesplin | I hate the studios |
18:04.19 | wps | me too |
18:04.23 | wps | greedy pigs |
18:04.26 | aesplin | amen |
18:04.44 | Fredjikrang | Hey Wade, why wait? Get yourself a President's day present! |
18:04.56 | wps | I am happy to pay for their product/services, but it boggles my mind that they are so disconnected from what people want |
18:05.08 | Fredjikrang | Er, Martin Luther King day, I mean. |
18:05.21 | wps | I'll wait two weeks for the new software to be released (so that I can buy one with it already installed) |
18:05.33 | wps | besides… no fun money until February pay check :( |
18:05.45 | Fredjikrang | sad day! |
18:05.46 | Fredjikrang | ;) |
18:06.16 | aesplin | ah well |
18:06.20 | aesplin | gotta run |
18:06.28 | Fredjikrang | Don't die! |
18:06.40 | aesplin | if anything really good happens, post it to the MUG list so I can catch up |
18:06.45 | Fredjikrang | yup. |
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18:07.08 | nacheen | I want that Homer picture for my wallpaper |
18:07.25 | Fredjikrang | lol |
18:08.10 | Fredjikrang | Yay for digital copies on DVD's! |
18:08.17 | wps | here comes the fourth thing |
18:08.31 | Fredjikrang | *Please be cool* |
18:08.44 | wps | new ear buds! |
18:08.47 | jhmaughan | lol |
18:08.57 | wps | MacBook Air rumor was true |
18:08.58 | Fredjikrang | lol |
18:09.01 | Fredjikrang | Yay! |
18:09.03 | wps | world's thinnest notebook |
18:09.33 | Fredjikrang | Everyone who attends the next mug meeting gets one, right? |
18:09.44 | Fredjikrang | :D |
18:09.49 | wps | dude… |
18:09.58 | wps | this is a keynote… not Oprah |
18:10.04 | Fredjikrang | dangit |
18:10.24 | Fredjikrang | I could hope. . . |
18:11.25 | Fredjikrang | I'm soo excited! |
18:12.38 | theletterh__ | so what's the "One More Thing"? |
18:12.44 | Fredjikrang | Do you think it is really 3lbs? |
18:12.52 | Fredjikrang | He hasn't done a "one more thing" in ages. |
18:12.54 | wps | MacBook Air is 0.16" to 0.76". The thickest part of the MacBook Air is thinner than the thinnest part of the Sony. It fits inside a envelope |
18:13.06 | wps | 13.3" display |
18:14.23 | wps | multi-touch trackpad |
18:14.57 | Fredjikrang | Man, the rumor sites nailed this one. |
18:15.01 | wps | yeah |
18:15.09 | wps | it's getting hard for Apple to keep a secret |
18:15.33 | wps | that's awesome that it supports multi-touch |
18:15.41 | jhmaughan | all for just $3,000 |
18:15.45 | wps | that'll be very handy for a laptop when you're away from a desk and don't have a mouse |
18:15.55 | Fredjikrang | Really J? |
18:16.08 | wps | 1.8" Hard Drive |
18:16.13 | jhmaughan | :) nah, but i don't think it will be cheap :) |
18:16.22 | wps | this sounds like a sweet laptop |
18:16.33 | wps | 80 GB hard disk standard, 64 GB SSD as an option. "they're pricy, but they're fast" |
18:17.31 | wps | 1.6 GHz Standard, 1.8 GHz Option -- Intel Core 2 Duo |
18:17.38 | Fredjikrang | I thought that is what they would do for the HD. |
18:17.55 | Fredjikrang | Not real speedy, but not bad. |
18:18.17 | wps | yea… surprised that it's not at least 2 GHz |
18:18.38 | wps | wow, they had to have Intel create a custom (small) processor |
18:18.48 | feutetejsd | did they mention the weight of the Air? |
18:18.51 | Fredjikrang | Most competitor's laptop's maxed out at 2.2 last time I checked. (about a month ago.) |
18:18.57 | Fredjikrang | not yet. I think 3lbs though. |
18:19.29 | feutetejsd | wow |
18:20.29 | Fredjikrang | That is a small, small duel core x86 proc. |
18:21.16 | Fredjikrang | only one usb port. ouch |
18:21.16 | jhmaughan | that's off the hook |
18:21.27 | wps | one's enough… just use a hub |
18:21.36 | jhmaughan | that's pretty slick when you have Intel of all companies responding to a request for a different chip |
18:21.47 | wps | definately |
18:21.58 | Fredjikrang | well, I'm sure they are going to sell it to everyone. |
18:22.25 | Fredjikrang | Man, I'm late for a meeting, but I can't go yet! |
18:22.50 | jhmaughan | no kidding :) |
18:23.06 | Fredjikrang | Hurry faster steve! |
18:23.20 | Fredjikrang | lol, I should. |
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18:24.35 | Fredjikrang | hmm, remote opitcal drive software. nice. |
18:24.39 | jhmaughan | ooh, slick idea for the optical |
18:24.51 | Fredjikrang | sweet battery life too! |
18:25.00 | jhmaughan | it's like, reverse firewire target mode? |
18:25.00 | wps | wow… 2GB memory standard |
18:25.06 | jhmaughan | wow! that's a first! |
18:25.09 | jhmaughan | 2GB?! |
18:25.18 | wps | about time they put a decent amount in a machine standard |
18:25.28 | Fredjikrang | Yeah, this could be pricey. |
18:25.36 | wps | $1799! |
18:25.41 | wps | that's a great price |
18:25.41 | Fredjikrang | Not too bad! |
18:25.42 | jhmaughan | holy crap! |
18:25.51 | jhmaughan | i was over by about $1200 :) |
18:26.04 | jhmaughan | two words: Supply problems |
18:26.09 | jhmaughan | they won't be able to make enough :) |
18:26.14 | Fredjikrang | Well, I'm off. |
18:31.33 | jhmaughan | please...be...one...more...thing :) |
18:31.41 | jhmaughan | just for fun :) |
18:40.17 | wps | 64 GB SSD is a $999 addon |
18:40.30 | wps | store's back up |
18:43.44 | jhmaughan | oh wow |
18:43.54 | jhmaughan | glad he said "btw, it's expensive" up front |
18:44.52 | jhmaughan | well, good times, i'll be curious to see what the next few days brings |
18:46.17 | wps | I think the price is just right |
18:46.32 | jhmaughan | for SSD? |
18:46.57 | jhmaughan | i guess i have nthing to compare it with |
18:49.33 | wps | OH! |
18:49.37 | wps | steve meant that the SSD was pricy |
18:49.42 | wps | I thought he was referring to the Air |
18:49.49 | wps | yeah, the SSD is pricy |
18:49.57 | wps | I think the price of the Macbook Air is about right though |
18:50.01 | jhmaughan | i agree on that |
18:50.04 | jhmaughan | good value for the Air |
18:51.10 | jhmaughan | you have a Mac Pro odon't you wade? |
18:52.51 | jhmaughan | seems teh air would be a good match for it, just to give portability |
18:53.06 | jhmaughan | still have to figure out a good way to have home directories synced though |
18:54.46 | wps | I have a PowerMac G5 |
18:55.02 | wps | yeah, the air would be nice for meetings, travel, and in bed |
18:55.19 | wps | any notice if they said if the iPhone and iPod touch got larger hard drives? |
18:57.16 | jhmaughan | i see the TV got HDMI, i didn't think it had that before |
18:57.31 | wps | it had that before today |
18:57.37 | jhmaughan | oh okay |
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