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04:46.04dna3e8hay
04:51.40wpshey
04:51.45wps12 hours…
04:53.00dna3e8:)
04:53.33dna3e8do you read the text feeds or wait for the stream?
04:53.49wpsboth
04:54.27wpsI always screw my employer out of an hour and a half of work time each time there is a keynote
04:54.44dna3e8I just get the day off
04:54.51wpsI try to work but it's too hard to get anything done with the excitement
04:55.14dna3e8lol
04:56.17dna3e8have you played much with boot camp an Parallels?
04:57.26wpsnot at all
04:57.40wpsI have no desire to run Microsoft Windows
04:58.17wpsand wouldn't want it on my mac! :)
04:58.18dna3e8I do for games
04:58.22wpsah… games
04:58.32wpsI'm not a gamer, but I can see the need if you are
04:58.34dna3e8and the mac hardwar is awesome!
05:01.41wpsaint that the truth
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15:34.09Fredjikranggood morning
15:34.20feutetejsdhello
15:34.29gildedcagetop o the morn
15:34.44FredjikrangHow's it goin'?
15:36.25feutetejsddoing well...how about yourself?
15:36.36FredjikrangI love wireless internet. I can get online in class
15:37.15feutetejsdhehe
15:37.38feutetejsd"No really, professor....I'm taking notes!"
15:39.26Fredjikranglol
15:39.41gildedcagehttp://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/10/mii.swf
15:40.25Fredjikranglol
15:40.36Fredjikranghow'd you find that?
15:41.01feutetejsdhehe
15:41.02feutetejsdnice
15:42.15Fredjikrangyou guys get the bingo for this years keynote?
15:43.18FredjikrangI've never done it before, but I might as well use that time between updates. :)
15:44.50feutetejsdI'm not familiar with what you're talking about, Fredjikrang
15:48.27Fredjikranghttp://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/05/keynote-bingo-for-macworld-07/
15:50.34Fredjikrangwell, I'm off to my next class.
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16:00.55Fredjikrangback
16:02.52feutetejsdyou're speedy
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16:08.47Fredjikranghave to be. Break between classes is short. :D
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16:09.32feutetejsdhehe
16:10.34whyisjakeDoes anybody know if you can connect to multiple servers on X-Chat
16:10.54whyisjakeI tried getting on to MacRumors Live, and it booted me off freenode
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16:11.51FredjikrangDon't know
16:12.09FredjikrangWhat is macrumors irc server and room?
16:12.29wps#macrumors on server irc.macrumorslive.com
16:12.30whyisjake#macrumors on server irc.macrumorslive.com
16:12.39wpsecho… echo… echo
16:12.40wps:)
16:12.43whyisjake:)
16:13.00whyisjakeI see your copy and paste is faster then mine...
16:13.11Fredjikranglol
16:14.13wpsI am so dang excited
16:14.20whyisjakeAny last minute predictions?
16:14.38FredjikrangA million dollars donated to me!
16:14.43wpsI think that Daring Fireballs seem very, very realistic
16:14.49whyisjakeI thought so too
16:14.56whyisjakeDid you read the Flannel one?
16:15.01whyisjakeI think that is dead on...
16:15.01wpsflannel?
16:15.18whyisjakehttp://theflanneleffect.com/articles/mwsf-predictions-the-obvious-edition/
16:15.24FredjikrangDaring Fireballs?
16:15.41wpsnice
16:15.45whyisjakehttp://daringfireball.net/2007/01/macworld_expo_predictions
16:16.21wpsI think that the thing that I am most excited about and want is a new UI for Mac OS
16:16.41whyisjakeYeah...
16:16.56whyisjakeI was talking about this with a friend at work yesterday...
16:17.15whyisjakeWhen you look at all the leopard stuff on the website, it all looks so black.
16:17.30FredjikrangI am hoping for options.
16:17.32Fredjikrang:)
16:17.35whyisjakeI wouldn't be surprised to see a lot more black in the ui
16:17.38FredjikrangGui options.
16:18.11whyisjakeWho are you Fred?
16:18.53FredjikrangNeil
16:19.23whyisjakeHinckley?
16:19.49Fredjikrangyup!
16:20.04whyisjakeAWesome
16:20.18wpsI don't ever see Apple providing skinning options, but I would like two settings: standard and Pro. I UI that matches the pro apps would be awesome.
16:20.29whyisjakeSO, I have this firefox extension, http://reloadevery.mozdev.org/ that refreses the page, so I don't have too...
16:21.02wpswith live.macrumors.com you don't have to refresh, they dynamically write the new content into the page with javascript
16:21.36whyisjakeYeah, but Engadget, and a few others are being ol skool about the whole thing... so this helps there.
16:22.15wpsI think that that prediction that website will see a facelift is very likely as well
16:22.32whyisjakeYeah?
16:23.07whyisjakeThe lame thing about today is, I ghave to go to a hockey class at noon...
16:23.24FredjikrangI think that they will have two more widely seperated GUI's. The two they have now are two similar. I see a black one and a white one.
16:23.29whyisjakeSorely disappointed to miss One more thing...
16:23.35Fredjikranglol
16:23.42FredjikrangWe'll tell you about it
16:23.50whyisjakeGee, thanks
16:24.02FredjikrangYou're welcome! ;)
16:24.02whyisjakeDo ou think Peaks Ice Arena has Wi-Fi?
16:24.08Fredjikranghmmm
16:24.12whyisjakejk
16:24.23whyisjakeBut uh, you know umm, it would be nice
16:24.31whyisjakeIf they had it.
16:25.31Fredjikrangyou could always check. . .
16:25.51FredjikrangI guess the real question is though, can you skate while holding a laptop.
16:25.55Fredjikrang?
16:26.17gildedcagewhile blocking the high-stick?
16:26.27whyisjakeI could no doubt, I just don't think that Icould skate hold a laptop, and a hockey stick...
16:27.05whyisjakeI can't wait for the new brown iPod ;)
16:27.16wpsapple store down
16:27.18wpswoot woot
16:27.23Fredjikranglol
16:28.18whyisjakewoot
16:28.52whyisjakeIs anybody on #mwsf2007? or #mwsf2007-discuss ?
16:29.01wpsno
16:29.25whyisjakeKinda funny
16:29.28Fredjikrangnot me
16:29.34FredjikrangIs logan on here?
16:30.00whyisjakeI will tell him to join
16:30.38whyisjakeHe has been idle 14 minutes so, he may be away from a computer...
16:30.43Fredjikrangah
16:31.14wpswhere the heck is drewbono?
16:33.55wpswhat a slacker
16:34.13Fredjikranglol
16:36.45feutetejsdso, does live.macrumors.com not go online until the keynote starts or something? Or, have they just been buried by their own popularity?
16:36.56whyisjakeI have it
16:36.56Fredjikrangit is up for me
16:37.04feutetejsd*sigh*
16:37.07feutetejsdstory of my life
16:37.16whyisjaketry macrumorslive.com
16:37.22Fredjikrangtry macrumorslive.com
16:37.24Fredjikrangdang
16:37.54Fredjikrangbeat again! ;)
16:38.01feutetejsdthat's the ticket, thanks
16:38.23whyisjakeTake that Neil
16:38.46whyisjakeSo have you guys played frets on fire?
16:38.51FredjikrangI'll get you next time!
16:38.57Fredjikranghuh?
16:38.57whyisjakeDoubt it...
16:39.01Fredjikranglol
16:39.31Fredjikrangfrets on fine?
16:39.36Fredjikrang*fire
16:39.42wpsgood morning, feutetejsd
16:39.45wpsgood to see you
16:39.53wpstwenty minutes, gentlemen
16:39.58feutetejsdthanks....good to be back, wps
16:40.07Fredjikrangyay!
16:40.13feutetejsdhad a long Christmas vacation and now I'm ready for another
16:40.18wpsI have a funny pic of my kid for you
16:40.19wpshttp://shearerfam.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/trolli.jpg
16:40.31wpsshe's a trolli!
16:40.33Fredjikranglol wade
16:41.03Fredjikrangnice picture. :D
16:41.45wpsthere is a sidebar on macrumors site titled "live photos"
16:41.47wpsthat's impossible
16:41.50wpsyou can't have a live photograph
16:42.03Fredjikranglol
16:42.28wpsyou can have a recent photograph, but photos are always history
16:42.40Fredjikrangthey should say "Photographs recently taken of live events," But that is a little long. . .
16:45.35Fredjikrangweellll, my class is almost over
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16:46.34FredjikrangWelcome!
16:46.34ArchAngelNixEveryone excited about MacWorld?
16:46.55Fredjikrangooooohhh. How'd you do that wps?
16:47.04FredjikrangOh yeah AAN
16:47.09wpstype "/itunes" if you're using Colloquy
16:47.24Fredjikrangahhh
16:47.25wpsha ha ha
16:47.25Fredjikrangcool
16:47.50wpsany lovehammers fans?
16:48.07FredjikrangWell, I am in class. Being on the web is one thing, but listening to iTunes would just be disrespectful. ;)
16:48.27wpsah, good call
16:48.32Fredjikrangguess not since I have never heard of them.
16:49.10wpsMarty Casey, the band leader and writer, was second place on the show INXS: search for a rock start
16:49.12wpshe should have won
16:49.13ArchAngelNixIs anyone going to follow the keynote via IRC or blog?
16:49.18Fredjikrangcool
16:49.24wpsI am in IRC
16:49.24FredjikrangIRC and website
16:49.29ArchAngelNixSame
16:49.34wpshttp://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=117541265&s=143441
16:50.00Fredjikrangcool
16:50.18Fredjikrangbrb
16:50.36whyisjakeSorry, Frets on Fire is a clone of Guitar Hero...
16:50.39wpsI never saw the show (I hate reality TV and I watch very little television any way), but was introduced to him by a friend
16:50.39whyisjakeOn A Mac...
16:50.46whyisjakeIt is freaking addicting
16:52.57ArchAngelNixSo what does everyone want Apple to announce today?
16:53.14ArchAngelNixI heard a rumor about a Mac nano that sounds way cool
16:54.32whyisjake"We're conjecturing something might have gone wrong during rehearsal; it's 15-to and they stll haven't seated most of the thousands of us that are in here. Interpret that as you will."
16:54.39whyisjakeFrom TUAW
16:55.54ArchAngelNixHmmm
16:56.37ArchAngelNixI hope they don't decide to yonk something out of the keynote because they are running behind or something.
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16:57.45FredjikrangI'm back! (Again!)
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16:58.17jhmaughansup everyone..
16:58.29Fredjikrangthe library's ground floor
16:58.31ArchAngelNixMorning Jeremiah
16:58.38whyisjakeHappy Day
16:58.43ArchAngelNixI am in the Tanner Building
16:59.01FredjikrangI'm in the Science section of the library
16:59.02whyisjakeI am at home in Saratoga Springs...
16:59.04jhmaughansweet
17:00.11whyisjakeTime for a potty brake and get the credit card ready to call cingular... ;)
17:00.15jhmaughanlol
17:00.41jhmaughanyeah, that will be interesting consider cingular has deals with all of Apple's competitors in the music store gig
17:00.46FredjikrangIt does work!
17:01.42Fredjikrangman, my old computer would be dead if I was trying to do all this on it. . .
17:02.39FredjikrangYay for G4's! The most chip you will ever need! :D
17:02.45jhmaughani am at home on my MacPro w/ fiber for fun ;)
17:02.48Fredjikranglol jake
17:03.20gildedcage2112 freaking rules, hop the new mac phone will let me have that intro for my ringtone
17:03.47Fredjikranghehe
17:04.06FredjikrangI love iTunes.
17:04.13whyisjakeMy SLVR lets me do that...
17:04.28jhmaughanso is Colloquy just pulling the info from iTunese to tell us what you're listening to?
17:04.33Fredjikrangyup
17:04.42whyisjakehttp://prestige.wordpress.com/2006/10/23/make-ringtones-with-your-mac-and-itunes/
17:05.38gildedcagebeautiful
17:05.41FredjikrangSo many classic songs! Who made this playlist? (The one I am listening to on my computer. Made from songs in my iTunes library. . .)
17:06.33Fredjikrangwasn't it supposed to start already?
17:06.41jhmaughanyeah, wondering what's up
17:06.57Fredjikrangguess they are taking their time getting seated.
17:06.58whyisjakePeople are still shuffling in...
17:07.02whyisjakeSo they day...
17:07.06whyisjakesay*
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17:08.48FredjikrangStarting!
17:08.55FredjikrangHi logan!
17:09.06Fredjikranggood timing
17:09.20loganhey, it worked this time
17:09.23whyisjakeLooks like you made it...
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17:09.47FredjikrangHmm. Sheryl Crow. . .
17:09.54FredjikrangHi Bismark!
17:10.00bismark90howdy
17:10.37ArchAngelNixHow exciting!
17:10.51bismark90i've got macrumorslive in one tab, and tuaw on auto-refresh in another... i'm pumped
17:11.01Fredjikranglol
17:11.05ArchAngelNixLast night I had the same sense of excitment I did on Christmas Eve when I was a kid... So sad... but I love it!
17:11.17whyisjakeSeriously...
17:11.22FredjikrangI'm in the macrumors IRC and their site, but that is it.
17:11.36whyisjakeI woke up at 6:30 this morning ,and couldn't get back to sleep
17:11.41FredjikrangLol, me too AAN, but I wasn't sure if it was for macworld or school.
17:12.18FredjikrangJames Brown playing there now.
17:12.37FredjikrangInteresting mix.
17:15.02bismark90hmm... go to devotional, watch keynote updates, go to devotional, watch keynote updates.... so tough..
17:15.31FredjikrangIf only there was wireless in the marriott
17:15.36bismark90haha
17:15.47ArchAngelNixDoes everyone have their Bingo cards ready?
17:15.52whyisjakeGo watch it in the JSB
17:15.52FredjikrangOh!
17:16.14FredjikrangBrilliant jake!
17:16.48FredjikrangDose that count as praising intel?
17:16.56whyisjakethanks, I don't even go to BYU...
17:17.02Fredjikranglol
17:18.09whyisjakeFirefox just crashed...
17:18.11whyisjake;(
17:18.30Fredjikranglol
17:18.40Fredjikrangthey just started mocking vista
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17:19.52FredjikrangNew iPods!
17:19.59feutetejsdLOL!!! that poke at Vista was awesome
17:22.51FredjikrangParamount on iTunes!
17:23.03Fredjikrangmore movies! Yay!
17:23.17bismark90good... i wasnt too impressed with the selection.. i might start buying some noiw
17:24.34Fredjikranghehe, poor Zune.
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17:25.08FredjikrangI love how microsoft keeps entering new markets to compete against apple. Gives Steve more chances to mock them. :D
17:27.01bismark90no new ipod it would appear
17:27.10Fredjikrangnot yet
17:27.19Fredjikranghe is talking about iTV now.
17:27.54ethanbrattat any moment, my boss is going to want to have a meeting...I keep hoping that the next page refresh on macrumors will bring the big announcement so I can go to the meeting and actually concentrate
17:28.17Fredjikranglol
17:28.30loganhow can you concentrate with "one more thing" ... looming ;)
17:28.30FredjikrangYou know he likes to save the big stuff until last.
17:28.38jhmaughantell him to have the meeting wait
17:29.00Fredjikranglol
17:29.08whyisjake40 gb?
17:29.10ethanbratti know i know
17:29.11loganyou have convert your boss like on the joy of tech
17:29.11whyisjakeLame...
17:29.25loganthen the keynote will BE your staff meeting :)
17:29.33bismark90wow.
17:29.40bismark9040gb hd..
17:29.42bismark90nice
17:29.46FredjikrangHey! My computers HD is only 40. :)
17:30.15bismark90maybe not big enough for HD video though...
17:30.33whyisjakeI have a couple 100 gbb lapop drives that I wonder if I can hack into one of those...
17:30.41whyisjakeDefinanantly...
17:30.42feutetejsdso, is iTV a DVR or is it just for playing purchased content on your bigscreen?
17:30.42FredjikrangMaybe. Not many. But you can still stream to it.
17:30.54whyisjakeTalking to a dude with three terabytes of HD on his desk...
17:31.07Fredjikranglooks like just to move them to the TV
17:31.16Fredjikrangthat is a lot jake
17:31.21whyisjake5 systems can stream but no storing on HD
17:31.31Fredjikrangyup
17:31.38Fredjikrang1 can sync, 5 can stream
17:31.39loganso they hd is basically a iTS cache?
17:31.40whyisjakeFilm student... Like to shoot HD
17:32.10Fredjikrangah
17:32.23FredjikrangI would be happy with 100GB, but I only shoot stills.
17:32.30FredjikrangAnd not raw
17:32.45jhmaughanhmm
17:33.02jhmaughan... usually the macrumorslive is good but today the verbiage is pretty lame
17:33.12ethanbrattTo bring up feutetejsd's question again, iTV is just a way to stream to the tv, not a dvr in and of itself...correct?
17:33.17jhmaughanmust be a different person there this year
17:33.35whyisjakeYeah
17:33.40jhmaughanthe notes are lousy, tough to undrestand
17:33.44FredjikrangI think they are just trying to keep up. Sounds like things have been moving pretty fast
17:33.57jhmaughanthis supposed to be how long?
17:34.02Fredjikrang2 hours
17:34.03logantuaw is doing pretty good
17:34.08jhmaughanlonger than usual then
17:34.12Fredjikrangyup
17:34.14jhmaughantuaw?
17:34.15logan9:30 PT. Steve goes "Boom." (*hee*)
17:34.16logan:)
17:34.28whyisjakeMan I love Heroes...
17:34.43FredjikrangHe said it?
17:35.01jhmaughani guess the macrumors site is uploading photos, which is a first for them
17:35.01whyisjakeSo, is the goal then to put the iTv on top of a mini?
17:35.05Fredjikrangwhat is the tuaw address?
17:35.05jhmaughanso that would cut time in half
17:35.13whyisjaketuaw.com
17:35.25loganhttp://www.tuaw.com/2007/01/09/macworld-2007-keynote-liveblog/
17:35.31loganno auto refresh :(
17:35.39FredjikrangI don't think so, about the iTV on mini
17:37.04whyisjakeWade, I am really diggin Marty Casey
17:37.10whyisjakeThanks for the recommendation
17:39.14wpsyou're welcome
17:40.13Fredjikrangnot a bad price for the iTV
17:40.18Fredjikrang$300
17:40.43whyisjakeSame price as a Tivo
17:41.19Fredjikrangbut no subscription
17:41.36wpsI wish it had DVR
17:41.43Fredjikrangyeah. . .
17:41.49loganwonder if someone can hack it ....
17:41.50whyisjake$300 gets you the Tivo and the subscription for three years
17:42.07Fredjikrangwould be nice if elgato figured out how to make a PVR for it. . .
17:42.11wpsbut to finally have a remote to control music, movies, and photos in the living room is awesome
17:42.26wpswidescreen iPod
17:42.27FredjikrangWidescreen iPod!
17:42.29FredjikrangYes!
17:42.30whyisjakeYeah... Very true
17:42.43wpsmobile phone
17:42.46FredjikrangPhone!
17:42.50FredjikrangDang it wade!
17:42.57wpsinternet communicator?
17:42.58FredjikrangInternet communicatior?
17:43.04wpshuh?
17:43.05FredjikrangGaF!
17:43.34whyisjakeWow
17:43.36loganwhat is an IC?
17:43.45wpswhat???
17:43.51wpsall of those three things are one device?
17:43.53loganInternet Communicator
17:44.09whyisjakeWhoa
17:44.16loganoh 3 things all in one, or 3 separate things?
17:44.18FredjikrangHow can they call it the iPhone?
17:44.23FredjikrangThey are all one device.
17:44.23wpshe's  mocking some of the photoshoped rumor pics
17:44.25whyisjakeNow he's joking,,,
17:45.05wpsamen to smart phones not being easy to use
17:45.34wpsThe Apple Newton is about to have a baby!!!
17:45.35wpsit's coming
17:45.39wpsI can see it's head…
17:45.41FredjikrangYay!
17:45.43Fredjikranglol
17:46.16Fredjikrangshow it already!
17:46.17whyisjakeSomeone over in #mwsf2007-discuss was like F yeah, and I thought it was the BYU group. I thought this is really pulling some strange emotions... ;)
17:46.24Fredjikranglol
17:46.26wpsblackberry, treo, and motorola have to be mad
17:46.46Fredjikranglol
17:46.51Fredjikrangno kidding
17:47.02Fredjikranghe is making fun of everyone today
17:47.10wpshe's good at it
17:47.19wpsshiller and that other guy wit the bad accent around though
17:47.22Fredjikrangdefinatly!
17:47.30wpsstylus!
17:47.33wpsinteresting
17:47.40whyisjakeLike the DS
17:47.41Fredjikrangno stylus
17:47.42wpsoh… no style
17:47.44wpsoops
17:47.58wpsyeah… stylus no good
17:48.05Fredjikrangmultitouch
17:48.09wpsthis is so exciting to see Apple do what they do best
17:48.15wpsthey don't just crank crap out
17:48.18wpsthey research and plan
17:48.25ArchAngelNixI want one, and I haven't even seen it yet!
17:48.31FredjikrangThat is why we love 'em.
17:48.34wpsno kidding
17:48.36Fredjikranglol AAN
17:48.44whyisjakeyeah, lol
17:49.35wpsno way
17:49.37wpsit runs OS x
17:49.38Fredjikrangruns X
17:49.41wpswow
17:49.41Fredjikrangsweet!
17:49.50wpsI don't give a crap what it costs
17:49.52wpsI am buying one
17:49.57Fredjikranglol
17:50.06whyisjakeWow
17:50.25wpsdang I want to see it
17:50.28wpsAHHHHH!!!!!!
17:50.31FredjikrangI know!
17:50.45FredjikrangIs that it on the macrumors page?
17:50.52wpsis this it?
17:50.54wpshttp://media.macrumorslive.com/p/1168364876-thumb.jpg
17:51.13FredjikrangI don't know
17:51.30wpsit has to be pricey
17:51.31whyisjakeLooks like it
17:51.33wps$600
17:51.38whyisjakeCocoa Mobile?
17:51.38wpsat least
17:51.51FredjikrangYou think that much?
17:52.22wpsthat might be a pinch high
17:52.25wpsat least $400
17:52.35Fredjikrangyeah
17:54.25whyisjake$299 with a two year contract...
17:54.25gildedcage600 for the scratch free screen
17:54.25Fredjikranglol
17:54.25wpsha hah ha
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17:54.26wpsgood one, gildedcage
17:54.26Fredjikrangwow, high res screan
17:54.26wpsI'd do $299 with contract
17:54.26wpsin a heartbeat
17:54.26whyisjakeMe too
17:54.26Fredjikrangkinda thick
17:54.26ArchAngelNixI wonder if it can do HD videos
17:54.26wpsand a camera
17:54.26Fredjikrangnot too bad though
17:54.26wpsand a sim card!
17:54.26whyisjakeI would add another line to my plan at Cingualr and get it today...
17:54.26wpswow, they covered all of the bases
17:54.27wpsI wish that they'd get the store up so that I can get my credit card going
17:54.27Fredjikranglol
17:54.27gildedcageear sweat will muck up the screen
17:54.38wpstrue
17:54.38loganbluetooth headset?
17:54.40whyisjakevery true...
17:54.41Fredjikrangah
17:54.48wpswow, when you bring it up to your ear, it automatically senses that and turns off the screen and sound
17:54.49whyisjakeMy wife hates that about her SLVR
17:55.03wpsjust don't be so oily
17:55.11gildedcagehah
17:55.16gildedcageeasier said than done
17:55.17wpsbath more
17:55.22gildedcagelol
17:55.28Fredjikranglol
17:55.30whyisjakestop wearing makeup...
17:55.32whyisjakeer...
17:55.44wpsit auto rotates for landscape and portrait
17:55.44loganthe phone is ringing ... quick, take a bath ;)
17:55.54wpshas cover flow!
17:55.55wpssweet
17:56.01wpsI did cover flow
17:56.05wpss/did/dig/
17:56.30loganand we thought resolution independent UI in OS X was for bigger screens :-O
17:56.39Fredjikranglol
17:56.53wpsfor sure, logan
17:56.59logan160 ppi
17:57.06gildedcagehope battery is replaceable, this unit will be used 24/7
17:57.15wpsfor sure
17:57.27wpsyou'll definately have to plug it in every night like a mobile phone
17:57.38Fredjikrangcingular logo
17:58.35Fredjikrangplaying beatles!
17:58.42whyisjakeyay!
17:58.53wpsI'm already a Cingular customer, so I am perfectly fine with that partnership
18:00.45loganwow, imagine writing software for this
18:00.59whyisjakeLogan... We think alike...
18:01.25whyisjakeRemember how I said leopard is going to look black?
18:01.31whyisjakehttp://media.macrumorslive.com/p/1168365431-thumb.jpg
18:02.09whyisjakeWow
18:02.12whyisjakemovies...
18:02.14whyisjakeThat is awesome
18:02.29whyisjakeThe Office...
18:02.35whyisjakewhat isn't to like
18:02.36logando they take tradeins on the zune?
18:02.39whyisjakelol
18:02.40gildedcagehaha
18:03.04gildedcagewonder if the screen is inset a bit, from the grey border/frame edge
18:03.05wpsyeah, I hope that 10.5's UI matches the UI on the phone-unit-device-whatever-i'll-be-called
18:03.09loganis there any pundit w/ a free zone that wouldnt' pay to swap?
18:03.14loganoops zune
18:03.28whyisjakeOhh yeah...
18:03.30gildedcagezune who?
18:03.52loganhmm, black interface in OS X makes me nervous ..... at least everywhere it does
18:04.08FredjikrangI want the choice between black and white.
18:04.08loganbut I'm sure black will be prominent
18:04.17whyisjakeHave you played with VIsta?
18:04.23Fredjikranginstead of the choices they have now
18:04.24Fredjikrangno
18:04.31whyisjakeIt looks really nice on Vista
18:04.32loganmaybe they have a cool algorthim to switch the widgets to match the contrast
18:04.33wpsthat's what I think they should do: two skins… dark and light
18:04.38wpsmost designers and photographers like it dark
18:04.42whyisjakeTrue
18:04.45logannot tried vista, only seen a screenshot or two
18:05.10wpsawesome
18:05.11wpsquad-band
18:05.12Fredjikrangwifi and bluetooth
18:05.12whyisjakeWow
18:05.20logantold some outside apple, showed them and they said "you had me at scrolling" -- great line
18:05.20wpswhat is visual voicemail?
18:05.25whyisjakeCoverflow of your contacts...
18:05.27wpsthat is a sweet line
18:05.33Fredjikrangvideo voicemail?
18:05.36wpscantacts cover flow is sweek
18:05.49wpsring tones are stupid
18:05.53wpsso 13 year old girl
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18:06.01Fredjikranglol
18:06.04whyisjakeWifi...
18:06.10whyisjakeThat is awesome
18:06.18whyisjakeMan I want this...
18:06.24wpsthis thing freaking does everything!
18:06.29whyisjakeSo true
18:06.30loganoh, so it's just a more expensive zune -- it was wifi
18:06.31logan;)
18:06.42wpsha ha
18:06.54whyisjakerotflol like a school girl...
18:07.04Fredjikranglol
18:07.04wpsthis thing makes the zune look like the original shuffle
18:07.09whyisjakelol
18:07.11whyisjakeTrue
18:07.22gildedcageand it it an internet communicator
18:07.26Fredjikranglol
18:07.30Fredjikrangwhatever that is
18:07.36FredjikrangVOIP?
18:07.55gildedcagehmmm
18:07.57wpsthis would be hard to have kept a secret if you world for Apple
18:08.08wpss/world/worked/
18:08.11Fredjikrangconference call
18:08.34Fredjikrangadd callers on the fly
18:08.55whyisjakeCallers on the fly like iChat
18:08.59Fredjikrangyup
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18:09.51whyisjakewhoops
18:09.56Fredjikranglol
18:10.39wps"you can bring up keyboard if you want to call "last century""
18:11.00Fredjikranglol
18:11.04wpsah, visual voicemail allows you to see your messages like emails… and click to play them
18:11.05wpstjat
18:11.09wpsthat's sweet
18:11.09Fredjikranghe knows how to be convincing
18:11.24wpsno more digging through them with keys… "press five for _____"
18:11.34Fredjikranglol
18:11.37Fredjikrangyay!
18:11.52wpsthat's why they call him an evangelist
18:12.21Fredjikrangmultisession text messaging
18:14.45gildedcagehard drive or flash memory?
18:14.59Fredjikrangmust be flash
18:15.04wpsthat's an excellent question
18:15.10Fredjikranghasn't said yet though
18:15.15gildedcagepretty capable flash device
18:15.37Fredjikrangflash is faster at small sizes than HD
18:15.59wpsApple's been busy
18:16.07Fredjikrangyup
18:16.19Fredjikrangand we are only half way though!
18:16.23Fredjikrang*through!
18:16.42wpsthis is amanzing
18:16.43Fredjikranguses Safari
18:17.35jhmaughanand this will only cost how much you thing?
18:17.38jhmaughan*think
18:17.40wpswhat I love about Apple is that they don't just create a device or enter a market because it's popular… just because they can
18:17.43jhmaughanshould we take estimates?
18:17.58wpsthey research… plan… and solve the pain-point
18:18.03wpsthey didn't just create a phone
18:18.06wpsthey created a new device
18:18.22FredjikrangYahoo mail to phone"
18:18.23Fredjikrang!
18:18.32wpsthe critics will deny that it's "new", but it is much more then a smartphone/pda
18:18.32Fredjikrangimap!
18:18.38wpsfor sure
18:18.44wpshappy times with an onboard IMAP mail client
18:18.58whyisjake.Mac...
18:19.09FredjikrangI want to see him type of that thing though . . .
18:19.11whyisjakeGoogle Maps.. That'll be handy
18:19.29Fredjikrangtype on
18:19.49jhmaughani say $500 for the phone
18:19.58whyisjakehmm
18:19.59wpsmy too
18:20.03whyisjake<PROTECTED>
18:20.04wpsI think it'll be more then $299
18:20.10FredjikrangI think $400 for bottom, with $500 and maybe $600
18:20.12whyisjakeAnybondy want to text me announcements?
18:20.36whyisjake801.376.6898 if anyone feels so inclined
18:20.38jhmaughani would were i not headed to a meeting of my own in about an hour
18:20.38gildedcagebottom end has to be between 300 and 400
18:20.49jhmaughan*for an hour
18:21.23jhmaughanhow long till another carrier gets it you think?
18:21.46Fredjikrang*shrug*
18:21.52wpsI wonder why Apple would have to partner with just one carrier
18:21.58Fredjikrangthey could release on multiple carriers. They haven't said yet.
18:22.05wpsthey would rock the market creating one that you could use anywhere
18:22.38gildedcagei'd say multiple carriers would be the way to possition this thing
18:22.49wpsfor sure… faster adoption
18:23.17wpsthey are going to have to have a good screen (in regards to scratching) since the point of this thing is to touch it
18:23.26Fredjikrangtrue
18:23.42gildedcagemelted diamond
18:23.42jhmaughanconsidering Sprint is way fast compared to Cingular as far as the hype purports
18:23.53Fredjikranglol gilded
18:24.50wpsThe Newton must be proud
18:24.54wpsproud papa
18:25.12Fredjikranglol
18:25.13gildedcagelol
18:25.24FredjikrangHey, I would be.
18:25.37wpsit has dashboard widgets
18:25.56Fredjikranglol
18:26.02Fredjikrangstock up over 2$
18:26.29Fredjikrang$2.43
18:27.07Fredjikrangmaps knows your local!
18:27.55Fredjikrangsweet! Calling through google maps!
18:28.20wpsI am VERY curious how big the hard drive is
18:28.33Fredjikrangat least 8GB
18:28.38Fredjikrangat least
18:28.57Fredjikrangmaybe 16 on the high end?
18:29.05wpsthat's so cool that it scales the websites down
18:29.30Fredjikranghe is doing satalite pics now
18:29.32Fredjikrangcool
18:29.58gildedcagedid i miss anything, had to go take a zune
18:30.12wpsnice
18:30.21wpsthat brown one with the green edges?
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18:30.26Fredjikrangweb browser is nice
18:30.44Fredjikranggoogle maps knows where you are
18:30.50wpsamazing
18:30.52bismark90man.. i cant believe i missed so much... but this is so sweet
18:31.01wpsha ha ha
18:31.04wpslook at bill: http://www.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx
18:31.13wpsinternet in your pocket
18:31.15gildedcageniiice
18:31.24Fredjikranglol
18:31.52FredjikrangGoogle CEO at macworld!
18:32.29wpsno, Steve, not applegoog
18:32.33wpsit's be goople
18:33.01Fredjikranglol!
18:33.03bismark90haha
18:33.08wpss/it's/it'd/
18:33.51wpspeople are definitely going to hack this system into in-dash car computers
18:34.14Fredjikrangoh yeah
18:34.35wpsthey're not leaving much time for other news
18:34.43Fredjikrangman, partnering with Yahoo and Google. That is amazing.
18:35.16FredjikrangI know! I want more leopard info!
18:35.35wpsyeah
18:35.41jhmaughangotta run people, how soon do they usuaully ahve the video posted?
18:35.49Fredjikrangby tommorow I think
18:35.56wpsusually by tonight
18:35.58Fredjikrangbut it'll be full for a couple days
18:36.07Fredjikrangunless you get lucky
18:36.26bismark90wait, did we get a release date for the phone?
18:36.31Fredjikrangnot yet
18:36.43wpsstop by the Apple store and you can watch it on your iUnit where you are going!
18:37.00wpsno price, date, or official name yet
18:37.08bismark90k
18:37.10gildedcageiUnit is good
18:37.29wpsI like Newton Jr.
18:37.32FredjikrangI don't know. Sounds awkward.
18:37.33Fredjikranglol
18:37.45wpsnewtonincarnateonsteroids
18:37.47bismark90so probably no leopard like leo leporte had predicted...nuts
18:37.55gildedcageiNewton
18:38.01wpsiNewtonincarnateonsteroids
18:38.27Fredjikranghow about theBOMB
18:38.30FredjikrangI like it.
18:38.41wpsiInternetInYourPocket
18:38.54FredjikranguLife
18:39.13gildedcagezKiller  (z=zune)
18:39.17Fredjikranglol
18:39.44FredjikrangdBomb
18:39.49gildedcagenice
18:40.05Fredjikrangsweet, email while talking on the phone
18:40.29loganPodPhone?
18:40.42loganmaybe Apple Phone
18:40.57wpsit's SO much more than a phone though
18:41.11logantrue
18:41.14FredjikrangpMac
18:41.21wpsMac Mobile
18:41.24gildedcageicPod  (ic=internet communicator)
18:41.26FredjikrangMac nano!
18:41.26ArchAngelNixI know, LustWorthNewtonJriPhone
18:41.31bismark90Apple Communicator?
18:41.40loganBMBR? ;)
18:41.55wpsMacBook Pro, Mac Pro, Mac Mini, Mac Mobile
18:41.55gildedcageMacNano works
18:42.13bismark90i like Mac Mobile
18:42.14gildedcageiMobile Pro
18:42.22FredjikrangI am going for either Mac nano or mobile
18:42.35ArchAngelNixI like Mac Mobile as well.
18:43.11gildedcage'really' smart phone
18:43.25Fredjikrangbluetooth accesories
18:43.34Fredjikrangnice
18:44.18FredjikrangI can't figure out that battery comment
18:44.35FredjikrangTwo batteries? or if you only play music, 16 hrs?
18:44.43gildedcagey
18:44.46ArchAngelNixRumors said two batteries
18:45.26FredjikrangPice time!
18:45.36gildedcage399
18:45.43wpsmmm… I love pice… especially with ice cream
18:45.51Fredjikranglol, price
18:45.59gildedcageold pice
18:46.10Fredjikrangrofl
18:46.28wpsno way… I think this think is going to be less then we thought
18:46.28Fredjikrangsay it steve!
18:46.53wpsif it's priced right, this thing will be huge
18:46.58gildedcagelow price with long mandatory contract
18:46.59wpsthey will sell mllions
18:47.10Fredjikrang$500
18:47.18wpsokay… nevermind
18:47.23wpsit is what I imagined
18:47.30wpswhoa!
18:47.33wpsnot shipping until June!
18:47.34FredjikrangJune!
18:47.36wpsthat's nuts
18:47.48gildedcagedang
18:48.00gildedcagegives me time to save up and take a few extra jobs
18:48.06wpsI am surprised that they showed it off so soon if it's not shipping until June
18:48.07Fredjikranglol
18:48.18wpsthat gives the competition a head start before people can spent their money
18:48.18Fredjikrangyup, cingular
18:48.29bismark90ouch
18:48.37Fredjikrangexclusive
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18:49.27wpsman, are they even going to get to 10.5?
18:49.36Fredjikrangmaybe not
18:49.38Fredjikrangdang
18:49.38bismark90ugh... do i end my sprint contract for $200??
18:49.49wpswell, you have six months to wait
18:50.43bismark90true
18:53.50Fredjikrangwow, $600 with 2 year contract. Ouch
18:53.58Fredjikrangfor the 8Gb
18:54.33bismark90well, looks like cingular is going to be having an influx of apple geeks
18:55.11ArchAngelNixWhat sucks is I am on T-Mobile and my wife really liked them.
18:55.27bismark90"iPhone prices include a 2 year contract - FYI"
18:55.45bismark90does that mean including monthly payments?
18:55.52FredjikrangI doubt it.
18:55.56bismark90same here
18:56.02bismark90just seemed a bit ambiguous
18:56.47Fredjikrangnow he is telling a story about woz, lol
18:58.55FredjikrangNo longer apple computers
18:58.59FredjikrangApple, inc
18:59.11Fredjikrangthat is unexpected
18:59.13wpswow… name change?
18:59.17Fredjikrangyup
19:00.06FredjikrangThe end.
19:00.11FredjikrangDangit.
19:00.28FredjikrangI wanted software updates.
19:01.28wpswow, I can't believe nothing about Macintosh or 10.5
19:01.37wpsthat really surprises me
19:01.46Fredjikrangyeah, no kidding
19:01.57gildedcageespecially where this thing is 6 months off
19:02.03wpsyeah
19:02.06ArchAngelNixI guess they are really becoming a consumer electronics company.
19:02.07gildedcagewhat do we do in the meantime?
19:02.16wpscry
19:02.19FredjikrangJohn Mayer is there again.
19:02.20gildedcagesob
19:02.24Fredjikrangweep?
19:02.30wpssave pennys
19:02.43Fredjikrangah yes, pennys
19:02.54wpsseriously… this is MacWorld
19:03.03wpsvery surprised
19:03.36Fredjikrangthey must be planning a special event soon
19:03.46Fredjikrangbut why not 10.5 here and the phone there?
19:04.12gildedcageno joke
19:04.20wpsexactky
19:04.41wpsit would have made much more sense to announce this at a special event in a month
19:04.54gildedcagedoes give ample time for consideration in phone carrier switch, but that's about it
19:05.02wpsgood to see steve thanking the employees families
19:05.19Fredjikrangyeah
19:05.53loganthough it is CES this week
19:06.06wpsthat is a good point, logan
19:06.06gildedcagetrue
19:06.14loganthis will make a big buzz over there
19:06.21wpsthis will steal A LOT of lime light from anything at CES
19:06.32gildedcageand overshadow anything they announce in headlines
19:06.57gildedcagehttp://news.google.com/nwshp?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wn&q=
19:07.24Fredjikrangstore is still down
19:10.41Fredjikrangbummer
19:12.42Fredjikrangsoo, how can they call it the iPhone if there is another company that has that name for their phone?
19:13.11wpsyes, Logitec released a VOIP phone called that a week or two ago
19:13.20wpsbut Apple has many trademarks on iPhone
19:13.24wpsLogitec is stupid
19:13.41wpsI think "iPhone" is dumb
19:13.48wpsdoesn't do the device justice
19:13.56wpsit's not a phone
19:14.00wpsit's a mobile computer
19:14.30wpscome on Apple, update the website
19:14.35wpsI want better photos of this thing
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19:14.38loganyeah, iPhone doesn't make as much sense
19:14.39Fredjikrangyeah
19:15.32wpsI have never understood why they take the Apple Store down
19:16.00Fredjikrangespecially for this
19:16.03wpsyou could have the new site (or site with new content) all ready to go on an alternate server and then simply flip a switch that redirects to the other server the second the keynote is over
19:16.09Fredjikrangit's back
19:16.12wpsmakes no sense to take a site down
19:16.18wpsyup
19:16.19wpshere we go
19:16.28wpsdang… no phone though
19:16.35loganum, the apple store is on like several racks of Xserves, not "a server"
19:16.36Fredjikrangthe phone isn't even listed!
19:16.49Fredjikrangnew airport though
19:16.55wpsnew airport?
19:17.00wpshome page is black… but still the stupid old tabs
19:17.21Fredjikrangnew airport, support for n I would guess
19:17.24Fredjikrangyup
19:17.29Fredjikrangit is square
19:17.48Fredjikranglots of wired ports to
19:17.52Fredjikrangnice
19:18.07loganI guess black is the new aqua
19:18.13gildedcagenew ad isn't there
19:18.44Fredjikrangthere must be an airport update too
19:18.51Fredjikrang(download)
19:18.54Fredjikrangsoon
19:19.57Fredjikrangso, do you think that the iTV works as a hub, or a computer?
19:20.18FredjikrangI guess it is really just (apple)TV
19:20.26wpsit's basically just an iPod
19:20.31wpsconnected to a TV
19:21.05wpsI am surprised that Steve didn't even mention the new n base station
19:21.35wpsand THANK YOU Apple for putting more than one ethernet port on the dang thing
19:21.54wpsthe current, pyramid one is a joke with only one ethernet
19:22.18wpsif you buy a router, you shouldn't then also have to buy a hub just so that you can connect your three wired computers on your home network
19:22.29wpsI know that Apple is all about wireless and "the new", but if you can plug in, wired is better
19:22.50Fredjikrangyup
19:23.09ArchAngelNixI have heard that 802.11n is faster than 100 base wired connection
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19:24.22Fredjikrangit is supposed to be
19:24.51Fredjikrangup to 540 (or 600, depending on who you listen to.) mbps
19:25.29wpsthe blue glow around the selection bar in Apple TV is cheesy
19:26.01Fredjikranglol, but it sets the buttons apart from the black background.
19:26.44Fredjikrangbesides, people like blue glows. ;)
19:28.02wpsperhaps the are still holding off saying anything about 10.5 because they don't want Microsoft seeing it until it's ready
19:28.22Fredjikrangmaybe. When is the consumer version due to come out?
19:28.50Fredjikrangof vista
19:29.00wpsoh, Vista is gold master already, but there will be updates and future versions, etc
19:29.10wpsconsumer version is 30 Jan I think
19:29.29Fredjikrangpics of the iPhone are on the main apple page
19:29.54wpshttp://www.apple.com/iphone/
19:29.58wpsthere, finally avaialble
19:30.23wpsit's gorgeous
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19:33.10Fredjikrangthere are some cool little movies
19:33.57wpslittle movies? you referring to the iPhone demo movies on the website?
19:34.35Fredjikrangyeah
19:35.47wpsI hope 10.5 looks like iPhones's UI
19:42.27Fredjikrang!
19:42.30Fredjikranggtg
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