| 00:07.56 | wps | anyone know how to restart afp from the command line? |
| 00:15.00 | wps | you rock |
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| 00:27.52 | guest_0250 | hi, i am brand new mac convert who is trying to get create an account on this site. However, the registration page keeps reseting with i click "register" any thoughts? |
| 00:28.19 | wps | hmm… let me look |
| 00:28.23 | guest_0250 | thanks. |
| 00:29.44 | wps | strange |
| 00:29.45 | wps | worked for me |
| 00:30.27 | wps | you were trying to register on this page? |
| 00:30.27 | wps | http://mac.byu.edu/users.php?mode=new |
| 00:30.49 | guest_0250 | ok, i filled out the 3 lines for username, password and complete name. then there was a register button. |
| 00:30.56 | guest_0250 | yes, it was the same page. |
| 00:31.07 | wps | and then clicked "register now!" |
| 00:31.17 | wps | and the page just refreshed? emptying the form fields? |
| 00:31.21 | guest_0250 | i tried registering at the lawschool computer lab, then at home here on my mac. |
| 00:31.25 | guest_0250 | yes to both |
| 00:31.56 | wps | what was the username that you entered? |
| 00:32.02 | guest_0250 | dptodd |
| 00:32.37 | wps | what's your email address? |
| 00:32.46 | guest_0250 | dylanptodd@hotmail.com |
| 00:33.32 | wps | weird… I just registered with those credentials and it went through fine |
| 00:33.43 | wps | your password was emailed to our account |
| 00:33.55 | wps | once you log in you can personalize your password and your real name |
| 00:34.12 | guest_0250 | so what do i use for a password at the login now? |
| 00:34.35 | wps | your password was emailed to you |
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| 00:42.46 | guest_5991 | i have an ipod question for someone... |
| 00:43.30 | guest_5991 | i have my ipod synced to my PC laptop and i would like to transfer the music on my ipod over to my mac without having to reinstall it. |
| 00:43.58 | guest_5991 | someone at the mac store told me i could do it like my ipod was a harddrive, but i don't remember what he said, does anyone know? |
| 00:45.31 | wps | while your iPod is connected to your PC |
| 00:45.35 | wps | open iTunes |
| 00:45.38 | wps | and then go into the preferences |
| 00:45.43 | wps | there is a pane for the iPod |
| 00:45.51 | wps | check "enable hard drive use" |
| 00:48.52 | guest_5991 | now my itunes isn't showing my ipod is connected |
| 00:50.14 | wps | is it showing up as connected… as an external drive (in Windows Exploring)? |
| 00:50.58 | guest_5991 | no, it doesn't pop up in my itunes at all. it gave me an ipod updater promt and says there is an ipod manager internal error |
| 00:51.28 | wps | no, not in iTunes… is it showing up in Windows Exploring as an external hard drive? |
| 00:51.55 | wps | if you received a prompt that the iPod is not up-to-date and that there is a new version of the firmware then I would recommend updating it first |
| 00:53.27 | guest_5991 | it won't let me update because of an error. i tried hoking my ipod up to my mac last night, could that have been the problem? also, my ipod is listed as a g:drive |
| 00:55.52 | wps | you just tried updating it now from the PC and that's when you received the error? |
| 00:56.14 | guest_5991 | yeah, as soon as i connect it. |
| 00:56.33 | wps | you receive the error when the iPod is connected or when you try to run the updator? |
| 00:56.47 | guest_5991 | yeah |
| 00:56.50 | wps | which? |
| 00:57.35 | guest_5991 | ipod manger internal error |
| 00:58.31 | wps | When are you receiving that error? When you connect the iPod to your PC or when you run the updater? |
| 00:58.52 | guest_5991 | when i run the updater |
| 00:59.33 | wps | I am guessing that you are going to have to reformat your iPod |
| 00:59.38 | guest_5991 | when i connect the ipod, it doesn't show up in itunes like it normally does |
| 00:59.45 | guest_5991 | ok, how do i do that? |
| 00:59.51 | wps | you could disconnect it and try rebooting it, but I doubt that it will help |
| 01:00.12 | guest_5991 | will i need to reinstall the original software? |
| 01:00.44 | wps | not the original, but yes, wipe the HD clean and reinstall the OS |
| 01:00.52 | wps | I would recommend installing the latest though and not the original |
| 01:01.08 | wps | there should be two options inside the iPod update utility: update and restore |
| 01:01.15 | wps | you want "restore" |
| 01:01.37 | wps | that will delete everything off of it and install a fresh copy of the latest OS |
| 01:01.42 | guest_5991 | wait. i need to wipe ,my entire pc harddrive clean? |
| 01:01.46 | wps | then you can reconnect it to your PC and sync everything back onto it |
| 01:01.55 | wps | no… your iPod's HD |
| 01:02.24 | guest_5991 | ok. you may have said it, but how do i wipe my ipod hd clean? |
| 01:02.44 | wps | there are two options inside the iPod update utility: update and restore |
| 01:03.22 | guest_5991 | what and where is the update utility? |
| 01:03.40 | wps | what we've been discussing |
| 01:03.52 | wps | isn't that what you have been running that has been giving you that error? |
| 01:04.55 | guest_5991 | start over. i got the error when i tried running the updater. |
| 01:05.05 | guest_5991 | my computer doesn't show my ipod is connected |
| 01:05.24 | wps | so you do know what the updater is… because you tried running it |
| 01:05.28 | wps | right? |
| 01:05.38 | guest_5991 | no. |
| 01:06.08 | wps | so what is it that you are running that is giving you this error? |
| 01:08.01 | guest_5991 | what i have told you, an ipod updater. i get a message box when i connect my ipod that i should click onto it so that i get the latest software update. that is when the error message comes up. |
| 01:08.23 | guest_5991 | i cannot get into my ipod from itunes when i connect it because it doesn't show that it is connected |
| 01:08.54 | wps | alright, it sounds like you are running the updater without knowing exactly what you are doing |
| 01:09.00 | wps | download this to your desktop: http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/ |
| 01:09.02 | wps | and then run it |
| 01:09.09 | wps | it is the latest iPod updater |
| 01:09.13 | guest_5991 | to my mac desktop? |
| 01:09.34 | wps | whatever computer you want the iPod to have it's relationship with |
| 01:09.45 | guest_5991 | yeah, my mac. |
| 01:13.11 | guest_5991 | let me ask this question. am i downloading a program to my mac that i just got? my goal is to have my ipod that is configured to my PC changed over to my mac and find a way to dump my music from my ipod onto my mac w/out reinstalling it all |
| 01:13.40 | guest_5991 | with this in mind, you still want me to go to the above page and download the software? |
| 01:15.19 | wps | To achieve what you want and to make sure everything is clean… what I would do is this. |
| 01:15.35 | drewbono | guest_5991: Are you mac and pc on the same network? |
| 01:15.58 | wps | 1. de-authorize your purchased music in iTunes on the mac |
| 01:16.06 | wps | 2. connect the iPod to the mac |
| 01:16.12 | guest_5991 | no |
| 01:16.19 | wps | 3. reformat it |
| 01:16.31 | wps | 4. establish a relationship between the iPod and the copy of iTunes on your Mac |
| 01:16.55 | wps | 5. copy your music files from your PC to your Mac (either via ethernet or via your iPod as a HD) |
| 01:17.04 | wps | 6. import those songs into iTunes on the Mac |
| 01:17.15 | wps | 7. authorize the songs on the mac |
| 01:17.38 | wps | so, yes, I would recommend downloading the updater |
| 01:18.12 | guest_5991 | ok, updater is downloading now |
| 01:18.49 | guest_5991 | i'll need to know what you mean by some of the steps. i don;t have purchased music, so can i skip 1? |
| 01:18.57 | wps | yes |
| 01:19.02 | wps | how much music do you have? |
| 01:19.11 | wps | how many GBs? |
| 01:19.20 | guest_5991 | 3.21 gig |
| 01:19.34 | wps | do you have an ethernet cable? |
| 01:19.41 | wps | or does your PC have firewire? |
| 01:19.47 | guest_5991 | yes |
| 01:19.55 | wps | which? |
| 01:20.11 | guest_5991 | ethernet cable |
| 01:20.22 | wps | that is how I would recommend transferring the songs to your mac |
| 01:20.37 | wps | new macs have smart ethernet ports so you don't need a hub or a cross-over cable |
| 01:20.42 | wps | what model is your Mac? |
| 01:21.10 | guest_5991 | new imac with the intel processor |
| 01:21.13 | drewbono | wps: if they do it that way, they lose all of the iTunes info though, right? |
| 01:21.24 | wps | yes |
| 01:21.24 | drewbono | So they've got to bring over the iTunes data if they want that. |
| 01:21.35 | wps | can you copy over your iTunes data from a PC to a Mac? |
| 01:21.37 | wps | I've never done that |
| 01:21.48 | wps | it will work on the new iMac |
| 01:21.54 | wps | (the ethernet cable) |
| 01:22.31 | guest_5991 | ok. so i am still following the steps you lined out, or am i now doing something different with the ethernet cable? |
| 01:22.44 | wps | the ethernet cable was one of the steps |
| 01:29.28 | wps | guess he was done |
| 01:34.08 | drewbono | :-) |
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| 15:37.57 | wps | a virus! |
| 15:37.59 | wps | a virus! |
| 15:38.04 | wps | oh, no… mac is doomed |
| 15:38.07 | wps | run for your lives!!!! |
| 15:38.09 | feutetejsd | a virus? |
| 15:38.10 | wps | gag |
| 15:38.24 | wps | shut your freakin mouth until you understand what it is |
| 15:38.41 | wps | the media really makes me mad some times |
| 15:38.43 | feutetejsd | ummmm....que? |
| 15:38.48 | feutetejsd | did I miss something? |
| 15:39.34 | wps | http://mac.byu.edu/pipermail/byumug-discuss/2006-February/001665.html |
| 15:39.53 | wps | (read my two replies) |
| 15:40.18 | feutetejsd | ah I see |
| 15:41.22 | wps | I just hate the "it was bound to happen…" and the "…now that they switched to intel…" comments |
| 15:41.31 | wps | sure, if it really was a virus… let the comments begin |
| 15:42.32 | wps | but sheesh… don't start a mob of uneducated civilians just to get some free press with scare tactics… that is a lame way to increase traffic to your news site |
| 15:42.33 | feutetejsd | grumble |
| 15:42.39 | feutetejsd | some people |
| 15:43.06 | wps | jbot, lart lame people |
| 15:43.15 | feutetejsd | yeah!!! |
| 15:47.58 | drewbono | lol |
| 15:48.41 | drewbono | I'm surprised MacOS doesn't check extensions to make sure that a .jpg doesn't open in the terminal, for example. |
| 15:48.50 | drewbono | It should at least give a warning, IMO. |
| 15:49.00 | wps | yup |
| 15:50.17 | wps | oh… the blood and carnage |
| 15:50.46 | wps | hurry, Andrew… come on over before… I'll marry you before the world ends |
| 15:50.58 | drewbono | :-) |
| 15:50.58 | drewbono | Awesome. |
| 15:52.16 | drewbono | some guy sent me this link yesterday |
| 15:52.18 | drewbono | http://latterdaymac.com/about_us.html |
| 15:52.53 | wps | there are some weird rendering issues on that page |
| 15:53.59 | wps | Moroni with an iPod? |
| 15:54.54 | feutetejsd | eep |
| 15:55.52 | drewbono | yeah...little weird, eh? |
| 15:55.56 | wps | yeah |
| 15:56.03 | feutetejsd | yeah, that makes me feel funny |
| 15:58.11 | drewbono | wps: why is this happening? http://mac.byu.edu/ioscars06/showmovie.php |
| 15:58.15 | drewbono | I have a div every 3 movies, but they aren't going to a new line like I want |
| 15:59.18 | wps | I'd use a table |
| 15:59.29 | drewbono | really? |
| 15:59.39 | wps | isn't that what you're trying to do? |
| 15:59.44 | wps | tabular data? |
| 15:59.51 | wps | three across, many rows down? |
| 15:59.55 | drewbono | it's not tabular data though |
| 15:59.56 | wps | evenly spaced? |
| 16:00.00 | drewbono | yeah |
| 16:00.07 | wps | that's what tables are for |
| 16:00.33 | drewbono | ok, I'll change it |
| 16:00.42 | drewbono | but I'm still curious why the div isn't going to a new line |
| 16:03.15 | wps | hmm… |
| 16:11.47 | wps | I think that it has to do with the way you are floating all of the elements |
| 16:12.11 | wps | try giving the div a height or putting a clear inside each div at the bottom |
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| 19:26.14 | wps | this the stupidest thing I've ever heard: http://www.macnn.com/articles/06/02/16/apple.to.switch.os/ |
| 19:26.32 | wps | and I can guarentee that the author of the referred to article knows it |
| 19:26.49 | wps | he is just publishing that stupid article for the publicity |
| 19:26.50 | wps | idiot |
| 19:27.21 | feutetejsd | what a moron |
| 19:27.54 | feutetejsd | ummm, yeah, apple is going to switch to Windows so they can close their doors....they're tired of doing business |
| 19:28.03 | wps | Apple's goal is not to increase their market share (if it happens, they won't complain, but that is not their goal)… their goal is to make the best products. Just like BMW… the goal is quality, not quantity) |
| 19:28.41 | feutetejsd | "it's so much work to run a company" said Steve Jobs as he rebooted after a blue screen of death |
| 19:28.56 | feutetejsd | "so, the only logical step is to concede" |
| 19:29.08 | feutetejsd | yeah, this guy is an itiot |
| 19:29.12 | feutetejsd | also an idiot |
| 19:29.21 | wps | yeah, both |
| 19:32.25 | feutetejsd | i'm surprised macnn posted it |
| 19:33.19 | wps | me too |
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| 23:17.50 | wps | sweet! |
| 23:17.53 | wps | this will be very handy |
| 23:17.59 | feutetejsd | ? |
| 23:18.03 | wps | create new file contextual menu |
| 23:18.03 | wps | http://www.macworld.com/weblogs/macgems/2006/02/nufile/index.php?lsrc=mwrss |
| 23:18.56 | feutetejsd | cool! |
| 23:19.00 | feutetejsd | I'ma have to download that |
| 23:19.57 | wps | a wired article is calling this trojan "THE FIRST MAC OS X WORM!!!" |
| 23:24.20 | feutetejsd | hmmmm...now that i have NuFile installed, where do I go to edit the templates that it installs by default? |
| 23:25.47 | wps | first thing that _I_ would do is to move the plugin in the pref pane from the global Library into your home library |
| 23:26.07 | wps | the developer is dumb and installed it global (should be user by default or at least give you a choice) |
| 23:26.11 | wps | the templates are in: |
| 23:26.28 | wps | ~/Library/Contextual Menu Items/NuFile.plugin/Contents/Resources/ |
| 23:26.51 | feutetejsd | ah...for some reason I couldn't see the full path in the Pref PAne, nor could I scroll to it... |
| 23:26.54 | feutetejsd | thanks |
| 23:27.04 | wps | double-click it to be able to scroll and see it all |
| 23:27.14 | feutetejsd | tried that |
| 23:28.01 | wps | this is awesome that it has templates |
| 23:28.19 | wps | so for my HTML files I can put my standard HTML skeleton in there! |
| 23:28.20 | feutetejsd | yeah, this is good sauce |
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| 23:42.19 | wps | I'm so mean |
| 23:43.05 | feutetejsd | why for? |
| 23:44.01 | wps | my most recent post to the list :) |
| 23:44.11 | feutetejsd | oh yeah...just read that |
| 23:44.19 | feutetejsd | you're going to scare away our users!!!! |
| 23:44.21 | feutetejsd | :) |
| 23:44.34 | wps | it's funny how people mix-n-match Apple and Macintosh |
| 23:44.43 | feutetejsd | heh |
| 23:44.52 | wps | "yeah, dude… I just bought an Apple from Macintosh!" |
| 23:45.15 | feutetejsd | hehe |
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| 23:53.26 | wps | drewbono: http://www.growlichat.com/NuFile.php |
| 23:53.58 | drewbono | wps: is that cool? |
| 23:54.07 | wps | very |
| 23:54.18 | feutetejsd | I'll second that |
| 23:55.06 | drewbono | do you guys use quicksilver or butler? |
| 23:55.11 | drewbono | I hear ppl rave about them |
| 23:55.21 | wps | I didn't like quicksilver at all |
| 23:55.29 | wps | well, I shouldn't say "at all" |
| 23:55.33 | wps | but it's not for me |
| 23:55.38 | wps | I personally don't see why you need it |
| 23:55.44 | wps | I had a coworker that worshipped it |
| 23:56.06 | wps | even that discussion on the mailing list about wanting to categorize the apps folder into sub dirs |
| 23:56.12 | wps | I don't understand what the problem is |
| 23:56.26 | wps | I don't ever have a hard time finding apps or find it an incovenience to browse for them |
| 23:56.32 | wps | the ones I use daily are in my dock |
| 23:56.47 | wps | then I have he apps dir and the utility dir in the dock so that I can use it as a menu |
| 23:57.07 | wps | and then I also cmd + shift + a and cmd + shift + u _a lot_ in Finder |
| 23:57.33 | wps | any app is never more than a keystroke and perhaps a sling of the scroll wheel on the mouse away |
| 23:59.11 | wps | have a most excellent night, gents |
| 23:59.19 | wps | I'm out like a fat chick playing dodgeball |