| 00:00.06 | wps | he hasn't done much for a long time and is asking for help |
| 00:00.14 | wps | I couldn't live without it |
| 00:00.21 | feutetejsd | d'oh |
| 00:00.45 | wps | here's another sad one: http://virtuedesktops.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:00.56 | wps | _the_ best desktop manager for Mac OS… bar none |
| 00:01.09 | feutetejsd | oh yeah, I've used that.... |
| 00:01.11 | feutetejsd | cool stuff |
| 00:01.11 | wps | but 10.4 broke it and the developer hasn't touched it since |
| 00:01.26 | wps | :( |
| 00:01.41 | feutetejsd | ick |
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| 15:55.44 | feutetejsd | how goes the g-drive, wps? |
| 15:55.53 | wps | awesome |
| 15:55.56 | wps | it rocks |
| 15:56.11 | feutetejsd | nice |
| 16:21.34 | wps | cool, a photo tour of NewEgg's facitilities |
| 16:21.35 | wps | http://www.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=2694 |
| 16:21.46 | feutetejsd | nice |
| 16:22.36 | wps | NewEgg rocks |
| 16:23.17 | feutetejsd | however, anandtech's image server is buried |
| 16:23.24 | feutetejsd | so, none of the images will load :( |
| 16:23.27 | wps | yeah |
| 16:23.30 | wps | slashdotted |
| 16:23.33 | feutetejsd | nice |
| 16:23.51 | wps | dang, look at all the accidents in SL |
| 16:23.52 | wps | http://commuterlink.utah.gov/ie.htm |
| 16:26.07 | feutetejsd | d00d |
| 16:27.45 | wps | I wish that we could get more technical mac-heads to hang out in here |
| 16:29.19 | feutetejsd | yeah |
| 16:29.33 | feutetejsd | frankly, it would be nice to get more people to hang out here period. |
| 16:29.43 | wps | yeah |
| 16:29.53 | wps | I wish that the Utah Mac Users Group had a mailing list |
| 16:30.02 | wps | what good is a user group without a list? |
| 16:30.13 | feutetejsd | although, I guess being a university MUG, it makes sense....I guess some people actually go to class |
| 16:30.16 | feutetejsd | :) |
| 16:30.21 | wps | true :) |
| 16:30.36 | feutetejsd | although I cant imagine why |
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| 17:47.51 | wps | man, I am so dang sick of InDesign crashing |
| 17:48.23 | feutetejsd | that's no good |
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| 17:51.34 | feutetejsd | hey drewbono!!! |
| 17:52.04 | drewbono | feutetejsd: what's up? |
| 17:52.25 | feutetejsd | not much....wps and I were just talking this morning about how we wish there were more technical mac-heads in here.... |
| 17:52.31 | feutetejsd | and you have arrived!!! |
| 17:55.51 | drewbono | Naaa...I'm not that technical. |
| 17:55.55 | drewbono | I don't even know what I do anymore. |
| 17:56.09 | drewbono | I have too many interests. |
| 17:56.10 | drewbono | :-) |
| 17:56.30 | wps | snowshoeing is my new interest |
| 17:58.09 | wps | I woke up the other day and realized that I was half way to 27 and decided that I have got to get out and get my adventures in before I'm too crippled to do it if I wanted to |
| 17:58.51 | feutetejsd | hehe....I hear ya |
| 17:59.12 | feutetejsd | I'm nearly 30, and get winded walking up the stairs |
| 17:59.44 | feutetejsd | heck, I get winded just thinking about walking up the stairs |
| 18:00.05 | wps | :) |
| 18:00.09 | drewbono | wps: are you making fun of my old age? |
| 18:00.15 | wps | yes |
| 18:00.23 | drewbono | ~lart wps |
| 18:00.28 | wps | ooo |
| 18:00.35 | feutetejsd | hehe |
| 18:00.36 | wps | that's another reason that I have no interest in going on for my masters |
| 18:00.38 | feutetejsd | take that, wps |
| 18:00.41 | drewbono | ooooo...that was too mean. |
| 18:00.45 | drewbono | jbot, say sorry |
| 18:00.46 | jbot | sorry |
| 18:00.49 | wps | we aren't on this planet for long |
| 18:01.01 | wps | I'd rather be out on a hike then sitting through more classes |
| 18:01.07 | drewbono | true that |
| 18:01.24 | drewbono | But those of us who aren't blessed with your talent have to have degrees so people will hire us. :-) |
| 18:01.30 | wps | L( |
| 18:01.32 | wps | :) |
| 18:18.54 | drewbono | so, here's a final cut studio question |
| 18:19.09 | drewbono | apple's letting people upgrade to the universal version in March for $50 |
| 18:19.16 | drewbono | or $199 if you own just one of the apps |
| 18:19.38 | drewbono | my question is: Will Apple do this and then release a new version of Final Cut Studio in April at NAB? |
| 18:20.17 | drewbono | Thereby making its customers pay the $50 universal cross-grade fee as well as the update fee for the newest FC Studio in April? |
| 18:20.35 | drewbono | or do you think Apple will ship a new version to people in March as a thank you? |
| 18:21.42 | feutetejsd | no idea here.... |
| 18:21.43 | wps | hmm… not sure |
| 18:21.56 | wps | I think that it's absolutely stupid though that they are charging $50 for a UB |
| 18:22.09 | wps | UB should be free for everyone with just the cose of a DVD and shipping |
| 18:22.34 | drewbono | Agreed. |
| 18:22.42 | feutetejsd | amen |
| 18:22.45 | drewbono | And for Apple's that's typically $20. |
| 18:22.57 | drewbono | I wonder how they came up with the $50 fee? |
| 18:23.21 | drewbono | If you guys want to buy it though, you can get it really cheap right now. |
| 18:23.29 | drewbono | BYU is selling Soundtrack Pro for $75 |
| 18:23.52 | drewbono | so you buy that, pay a $199 upgrade fee, and you'll have your own complete version of the entire studio for $274. |
| 18:24.07 | drewbono | it retails academically for $699 |
| 18:24.18 | feutetejsd | wow |
| 18:24.24 | drewbono | retail is $1299 |
| 18:24.50 | feutetejsd | also wow |
| 18:25.05 | drewbono | "Apple Computer is holding an invitation-only special event with Steve Jobs and Bono on March 1, 2006 at 10:00 a.m. at the Moscone Center West in San Francisco. The invitation simply reads "Please join Steve and Bono. Together we can fight it!" |
| 18:25.13 | drewbono | -->Red AIDS iPod? |
| 18:25.38 | wps | definately |
| 18:25.48 | wps | isn't there a special event in the twentieth too? |
| 18:25.57 | feutetejsd | or Red ANti-Poverty iPod |
| 18:26.10 | drewbono | 20th of this month? |
| 18:26.18 | wps | some time in the later of Feb |
| 18:26.36 | drewbono | I think that was a hoax. |
| 18:26.43 | wps | oh |
| 18:28.09 | wps | any recommendations for an HD camcorder? |
| 18:28.13 | wps | I need to get one soon |
| 18:29.15 | wps | with as much business as Panasonic does and as big of a company as they are, it is hard to beleive how nasty their website is |
| 18:29.27 | wps | a lot of big companies are like that |
| 18:29.29 | wps | I don't understand it |
| 18:29.45 | drewbono | wps: how much you wanna spend? |
| 18:29.49 | wps | as an example, look at the hideous bevel on the text in this banner image! http://www2.panasonic.com/static/HomePageSplash/banner_splash_mmd_games2.jpg |
| 18:30.09 | wps | well, I've been waiting and watching as the prices have been coming down |
| 18:30.14 | wps | hoping to get a good one for $1000 |
| 18:30.45 | drewbono | I think a more important question is, "why is that lady using her skis as a bazooka?" |
| 18:30.51 | drewbono | She looks scary. |
| 18:31.12 | wps | she's praying to the snow god |
| 18:31.36 | wps | and WHY CAN'T ANYONE offer me an HD DVR/DVD player!?!?!? |
| 18:32.15 | drewbono | I think people are waiting for blu-ray/hd-dvd to get figured out. |
| 18:32.27 | wps | yeah… which makes me so mad |
| 18:32.41 | drewbono | as far as a cam...I didn't know they were getting that cheap |
| 18:32.46 | wps | I _hate_ that we have technology but stupid, greedy people keep it from us because they can't agree on a universal format |
| 18:32.59 | drewbono | My brother-in-law has been looking at the higher end. |
| 18:33.08 | drewbono | He got a nice JVC a while ago that he loves. |
| 18:33.14 | drewbono | but he wants a Panasonic now. |
| 18:33.20 | drewbono | But they're all $6000+ |
| 18:35.16 | drewbono | wps: what version of php and mysql are you running? |
| 18:35.53 | wps | on my mac or on my server? |
| 18:36.43 | drewbono | both |
| 18:36.56 | drewbono | I'm trying to add an account for myself on mysql and it just won't work. |
| 18:37.00 | drewbono | I'm getting frustrated. |
| 18:37.09 | wps | no MySQL on my workstations |
| 18:37.52 | feutetejsd | what's happening when you try to add the account on mysqkl? |
| 18:37.55 | wps | PHP 5.0.4 on my Mac workstations |
| 18:38.23 | drewbono | the account is there |
| 18:38.38 | wps | did you flush priveleges? |
| 18:38.38 | drewbono | but I can't log in using phpmyadmin or via the terminal |
| 18:38.48 | drewbono | I can via the MySQL Admin app |
| 18:38.51 | drewbono | weird |
| 18:38.54 | drewbono | yeah, I did |
| 18:39.24 | feutetejsd | so, mysql -u <username> -p |
| 18:39.26 | feutetejsd | fails? |
| 18:39.36 | drewbono | yeah |
| 18:39.45 | feutetejsd | error? |
| 18:39.46 | drewbono | I did the old password thing |
| 18:40.05 | drewbono | Not sure if that matters. |
| 18:40.06 | drewbono | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'andrew'@'localhost' (using password: YES) |
| 18:40.22 | feutetejsd | what version of the server and client are you using? |
| 18:40.28 | drewbono | I've deleted the user and re-added it to no avail. |
| 18:40.34 | drewbono | server is 4.1.15 |
| 18:40.54 | drewbono | client is the same |
| 18:41.54 | drewbono | I added the user via phpmyadmin |
| 18:42.07 | drewbono | then I changed the password to an old password using the terminal |
| 18:42.23 | drewbono | set password for 'andrew'@'%' = old_password('pass'); |
| 18:42.31 | drewbono | I think phpmyadmin needs that |
| 18:42.57 | drewbono | I'm downloading 4.1.18 now |
| 18:44.38 | drewbono | any ideas? |
| 18:46.19 | feutetejsd | if you add the user manually from command line, does it work? if so, does it work with mysql client only, or phpMyAdmin? |
| 18:50.35 | drewbono | lemme try |
| 18:54.57 | drewbono | if a mysql user is valid for %, doesn't that mean it can log in anywhere (including from the local machine) |
| 18:55.44 | feutetejsd | I don't think it includes localhost |
| 18:55.52 | feutetejsd | i think you have to have a separate entry for localhost |
| 18:56.23 | drewbono | Son of a... |
| 18:56.47 | drewbono | so if I'm using phpmyadmin that's running on the localhost's webserver, does that count as a local connection? |
| 18:57.09 | feutetejsd | I would think so |
| 18:57.40 | feutetejsd | I believe the reason is taht localhost connections use a different UNIX socket to connect to the server |
| 18:57.48 | feutetejsd | although I could be imagining that |
| 19:00.21 | drewbono | Hmmm... |
| 19:02.18 | feutetejsd | any love from adding another one that's localhost? |
| 19:02.26 | drewbono | nope |
| 19:02.30 | drewbono | well...kinda |
| 19:02.35 | feutetejsd | :) |
| 19:02.37 | drewbono | I can log in via the terminal on the localhost now |
| 19:02.41 | drewbono | but not via phpmyadmin |
| 19:03.20 | drewbono | well, restarting the server fixed it |
| 19:03.25 | drewbono | although I did flush privileges. |
| 19:03.27 | drewbono | weird |
| 19:03.30 | drewbono | very very werid |
| 19:03.31 | feutetejsd | that's really weird |
| 19:03.32 | drewbono | weird |
| 19:03.39 | feutetejsd | so, everyone's happy now? |
| 19:04.22 | wps | I'm happy |
| 19:04.22 | drewbono | yeah |
| 19:04.28 | drewbono | and another thing I had to do was restart firefox |
| 19:04.33 | drewbono | thanks feutetejsd |
| 19:04.33 | feutetejsd | good to hear, wps |
| 19:04.36 | feutetejsd | no worries |
| 19:04.38 | drewbono | and yeah, I'm happy too |
| 19:04.38 | drewbono | :-) |
| 19:04.45 | feutetejsd | wow, EVERYONE is happy |
| 19:04.51 | feutetejsd | you just can't beat that |
| 19:04.52 | drewbono | although I'm still upset at MySQL inside |
| 19:04.57 | feutetejsd | hehe |
| 19:05.02 | feutetejsd | let it go, drewbono |
| 19:07.22 | wps | jbot, kiss drewbono |
| 19:07.24 | jbot | ACTION smooches drewbono on the cheek |
| 19:07.33 | drewbono | EW! |
| 19:07.48 | drewbono | jbot: tell wps drewbono isn't gay |
| 19:08.02 | drewbono | [12:07pm] jbot: No, drewbono, I won't. (target invalid?) |
| 19:08.12 | drewbono | jbot, tell wps I'm not gay! |
| 19:08.38 | wps | jbot, dance |
| 19:08.39 | jbot | "ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' alive, stayin' alive" |
| 19:15.28 | drewbono | jbot, why don't you listen to me? |
| 19:15.37 | drewbono | jbot, listen! |
| 19:15.50 | feutetejsd | you tell him! |
| 19:15.59 | drewbono | Yeah, nevermind. jbot's definitely a woman. She doesn't listen. :-) |
| 19:16.04 | feutetejsd | LOL |
| 19:16.18 | drewbono | So I guess the smooch was ok. |
| 19:16.46 | drewbono | although now that I'm engaged, fiancee might not like that. |
| 19:16.54 | feutetejsd | she doesn't have to know |
| 19:17.01 | feutetejsd | mum's the word |
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