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| 05:12.17 | wps | it amazes me how rude some people are |
| 05:12.31 | wps | especially in IRC channels |
| 05:13.01 | wps | when you are interacting with people textually, you need to go out of your way to be patient and polite |
| 05:19.03 | drewbono | Was someone mean to you, wps? |
| 05:19.19 | wps | no vicious, but not kind |
| 05:19.28 | drewbono | Sorry, man. |
| 05:19.43 | drewbono | It's amazing how different some channels are. |
| 05:19.50 | wps | it's not a big deal... it just saddens me |
| 05:19.53 | drewbono | Some ppl are super nice and responsive, while others are jurks. |
| 05:20.09 | wps | I rarely ever get a warm response in #utah |
| 05:24.31 | drewbono | Did you get sendmail up and going wps? |
| 05:24.44 | wps | half way there |
| 05:24.47 | wps | it is running |
| 05:24.56 | wps | I can get mail (both POP and IMAP), but I cannot send |
| 05:25.13 | drewbono | Nice. |
| 05:25.29 | wps | I am pretty much stuck though |
| 05:25.37 | wps | I don't have any idea where to go from here :) |
| 05:25.39 | drewbono | What's it doing? |
| 05:25.46 | drewbono | Giving you errros? |
| 05:25.51 | drewbono | *errors |
| 05:26.51 | wps | The server response was: 4.4.0 <wade.shearer@gmail.com>... Relaying temporarily denied. Cannot resolve PTR record for 208.186.134.102 |
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| 05:37.54 | drewbono | So... |
| 05:38.15 | drewbono | It's trying to resolve a PTR record... |
| 05:38.23 | drewbono | which it shouldn't for an IP address... |
| 05:46.52 | wps | what is a PTR record? |
| 05:48.29 | drewbono | It's like an alias for DNS. |
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| 16:07.06 | feutetejsd | so, did any of you take the 10.3.8 upgrade |
| 16:09.23 | feutetejsd | er...take the plunge? |
| 16:11.43 | feutetejsd | ok then....here I go.... |
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| 17:16.54 | feutetejsd | so, I ran the 10.3.8 updater, and software update crashed. Now I'm scared to reboot |
| 17:17.43 | feutetejsd | when I run software update again, it says there is no new software.... |
| 17:18.40 | feutetejsd | and when I pull down the standalone installer, I can't mount the dmg--I get: error -536870208 |
| 17:19.04 | feutetejsd | this does not make me happy |
| 17:19.21 | drewbono | uh-oh... |
| 17:19.28 | drewbono | doesn't sound like fun |
| 17:20.01 | feutetejsd | nope....my only choice is to reboot and see if the machine comes up, I guess |
| 17:20.27 | drewbono | do you have a bootable cd? |
| 17:21.04 | feutetejsd | I have the CD the machine came with |
| 17:21.11 | drewbono | the error with the CD not mounting probably isn't a big deal. |
| 17:21.26 | drewbono | that happens to me often when I update my software if I try to mount s.t. before I've rebooted. |
| 17:21.32 | drewbono | Rebooting fixes that for me... |
| 17:21.41 | feutetejsd | k |
| 17:26.42 | feutetejsd | I guess if it blows out, I could boot in firewire target mode and copy my files to another machine and rebuild, but that would be sucky |
| 17:27.00 | drewbono | That would be. |
| 17:27.12 | drewbono | You could also do an archive and install, if it comes to that. |
| 17:27.26 | drewbono | Or just see how long you can go without rebooting. :-) |
| 17:28.04 | feutetejsd | what do you mean by "do an archive and install?" |
| 17:28.14 | drewbono | It's like a clean install. |
| 17:28.27 | drewbono | It doesn't erase anything on your HD but gives you a new system |
| 17:28.28 | feutetejsd | is that an option when installing from CD? |
| 17:28.32 | drewbono | yep |
| 17:28.54 | feutetejsd | hmmmm.....maybe I'll reboot, and if that dies, I'll do the archive and install. That sounds like a decent option |
| 17:30.37 | feutetejsd | it looks from /var/log/system.log that it died after it started prebinding |
| 17:32.11 | feutetejsd | so, in theory, it installed everything, and was just optimizing when it died |
| 17:32.20 | drewbono | That's a good sign. |
| 17:32.35 | drewbono | That's easy enough to re-prebind your system. |
| 17:33.31 | feutetejsd | system.log even has the full command it was running to prebind. |
| 17:33.45 | feutetejsd | perhaps I'll try that command and then reboot |
| 17:34.18 | drewbono | Cocktail will let you prebind |
| 17:35.27 | feutetejsd | hmmmm.....any guesses as to whether Cocktail's prebind does any more/less than the prebind done after software update? |
| 17:36.50 | feutetejsd | crap--from Cocktail's website: |
| 17:36.51 | feutetejsd | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.58 | feutetejsd | except I can't mount a dmg right now |
| 17:37.02 | drewbono | Yeah... |
| 17:37.14 | drewbono | but the prebinding isn't going to affect the integrity of your system... |
| 17:37.19 | feutetejsd | so, I guess I'll run the update_prebinding from the system.log and see what I get |
| 17:37.22 | drewbono | it just increases the speed of it (as I understand it) |
| 17:37.28 | feutetejsd | yeah |
| 17:37.48 | feutetejsd | well, here goes |
| 17:38.13 | drewbono | good luck |
| 17:38.41 | feutetejsd | thx |
| 17:44.16 | feutetejsd | well, prebinding finished, a few errors, but nothing that looked fatal |
| 17:45.39 | feutetejsd | gonna reboot in a minute...we'll see how it goes |
| 17:46.08 | feutetejsd | back in a bit....(hopefully) |
| 17:46.15 | drewbono | k |
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| 17:53.42 | feutetejsd | well, I appear to have survived |
| 17:54.38 | feutetejsd | and my machine is reporting that it's running 10.3.8, so that's a good thing |
| 17:55.09 | macnewbold | cool! how do you like it? |
| 17:55.24 | feutetejsd | well, I love having a machine that works, so.... :) |
| 17:55.43 | feutetejsd | I'm just glad I'm not digging out my system restore disks right now |
| 18:10.21 | drewbono | I'm glad it all worked out for you, feutetejsd |
| 18:10.43 | feutetejsd | me too. |
| 18:10.56 | feutetejsd | very much so |
| 18:11.05 | drewbono | Did you update your prebinding? |
| 18:11.47 | feutetejsd | headed there right now |
| 18:11.56 | feutetejsd | now that I can mount the cocktail dmg |
| 18:12.00 | feutetejsd | :) |
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