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| 16:33.27 | drewbono | Good morning! |
| 16:33.33 | wps | hey |
| 16:34.19 | drewbono | How's it going? |
| 16:34.23 | drewbono | What's new in wps' life? |
| 16:35.52 | wps | eh, not much new |
| 16:37.05 | wps | loaded down with work and school |
| 16:37.05 | wps | you? |
| 16:49.45 | drewbono | Ditto that. |
| 16:50.05 | drewbono | I'm taking 18 hrs at school, trying to run the group as well as work. |
| 16:51.55 | drewbono | Oh, and I still have to keep Shiloh happy. :-) |
| 16:52.00 | drewbono | That's a priority. |
| 16:52.27 | wps | yes, that's very important |
| 16:52.34 | wps | I can't believe that you are taking 18 hours |
| 16:52.40 | wps | how many hours to you work a week? |
| 16:54.39 | drewbono | anywhere from 15-30 hours at one job |
| 16:54.43 | drewbono | and 10-15 at the other. |
| 16:54.51 | drewbono | It's still not as much as you though. :-) |
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| 18:32.36 | drewbono | Hey, we have a new friend. |
| 18:32.39 | drewbono | Welcome, mrclary. |
| 18:32.50 | wps | howdy, friend |
| 18:32.52 | mrclary | thank you; glad to be here |
| 18:33.36 | wps | ~mrclary |
| 18:33.47 | wps | jbot, mrclary is glad to be here |
| 18:33.48 | jbot | wps: okay |
| 18:34.10 | wps | mrclary: you a student? |
| 18:34.59 | mrclary | yes, a grad student at the University of Maryland College Park. I came from UVSC, and am a member of mac users group at BYU |
| 18:35.31 | wps | ah, so you attending UVSC in the past and are in Maryland presently? |
| 18:36.04 | mrclary | yes. I graduated last spring with a BS. |
| 18:36.06 | feutetejsd | cool!!! we're crossing state lines! |
| 18:36.35 | wps | I had someone email me from another state the other day asking for more details about an article that I published on our site |
| 18:36.45 | mrclary | There are several people from BYU here at Maryland |
| 18:36.47 | feutetejsd | wahoo!!! |
| 18:39.05 | wps | ~feutetejsd |
| 18:39.06 | jbot | somebody said feutetejsd was a grammar-intolerant pyromaniac |
| 18:39.28 | feutetejsd | you got that right, jbot!!!!! |
| 18:39.37 | feutetejsd | jbot rules |
| 18:39.38 | jbot | rules are a requirement for having exceptions |
| 18:39.43 | feutetejsd | LOL |
| 18:39.51 | feutetejsd | yeah, that's not exactly what I meant by that, but....whatever |
| 18:39.54 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 18:40.01 | feutetejsd | oh man...those were the days |
| 18:40.08 | wps | post -> past |
| 18:41.02 | wps | so, drewbono, any thoughts of streaming video of Fridays meeting :) :) :) |
| 18:41.52 | drewbono | Not streaming... |
| 18:41.56 | drewbono | But it will be available later. |
| 18:42.08 | wps | you are at least recording it then? |
| 18:42.09 | drewbono | I'm waiting on Danny to get me access to the new server. |
| 18:42.11 | drewbono | Yeah. |
| 18:42.14 | drewbono | I will be. |
| 18:42.16 | wps | wonderful |
| 18:42.25 | wps | when do you imagine us moving to the new server? |
| 18:42.33 | wps | before longhorn? |
| 18:42.33 | drewbono | It'll be sooner than later. |
| 18:42.44 | drewbono | Shawn is taking a new job, so we'll have to move off of his server ASAP. |
| 18:42.48 | drewbono | Very funny... |
| 18:42.59 | wps | ~fish wps' poor humor |
| 18:43.01 | jbot | ACTION slaps wps' poor humor around with a large trout |
| 18:43.05 | drewbono | LOL |
| 18:43.08 | wps | thanks, jbot |
| 18:43.49 | feutetejsd | heh heh....longhorn |
| 18:44.16 | wps | code name for "long time" |
| 18:45.36 | wps | another pixel went out on my PB last week :( |
| 18:45.42 | wps | that makes two now |
| 18:45.44 | feutetejsd | d'oh! |
| 18:45.50 | wps | not bad for a three year old laptop though |
| 18:46.15 | feutetejsd | true |
| 18:46.42 | wps | I had a thought yesterday that made me hopeful for the new PBs |
| 18:48.12 | wps | I was looking at a friend's new iBook and was noticing how the iBooks have changed recently and considering that in conjunction with how they have been upgraded on the inside... I thought how interesting it is at how much they seem to be becoming powerbooks... both internally and externally |
| 18:48.21 | wps | and it caused me to think... |
| 18:48.46 | wps | I wonder if they are doing that on purpose... preparing them to take the place of the powerbook... when it changes |
| 18:49.01 | wps | *when* :) |
| 18:49.32 | wps | these are, however, just musing of a hopeless romantic |
| 18:50.09 | feutetejsd | hmmmmm |
| 18:50.09 | feutetejsd | interesting thought |
| 18:50.36 | feutetejsd | :D |
| 18:52.21 | drewbono | The ibook and powerbook are far too similar, IMO. |
| 18:52.29 | drewbono | I wish the powerbooks supported higher resolutions though. |
| 18:52.36 | wps | AMEN |
| 18:52.44 | drewbono | My friend has a dell laptop that does 1900xwhatever. |
| 18:52.48 | wps | they are _far_ too similar |
| 18:53.02 | wps | screen resolution has always been my number one complaint with Apple laptops |
| 18:53.28 | wps | yeah, my old Vaio that I had before my Powerbook in 2001 did 1600 x |
| 18:53.58 | wps | 1900 would be too big (err small, depending on how you look at it) for a laptop, but 1600 would be really nice |
| 18:54.05 | wps | I don't understand why they can't make them do that |
| 18:54.10 | wps | would it really up the price that much? |
| 18:55.09 | wps | if Dell and Sony can do it, why can't Apple? |
| 18:56.33 | wps | I wish we could send jbot into Cupertino as a spy |
| 18:56.43 | wps | drewbono: I applied for 22 jobs at Apple :) |
| 18:58.10 | drewbono | ShutUP! |
| 18:58.13 | drewbono | Are you serious? |
| 18:58.24 | wps | yup |
| 18:58.27 | drewbono | Wow. |
| 18:58.31 | wps | I figure it wouldn't hurt |
| 18:58.31 | drewbono | That's a ton ton. |
| 18:58.36 | wps | just to see what happens |
| 18:58.44 | drewbono | Good call. |
| 18:58.48 | wps | I'd never live in California |
| 18:58.51 | wps | ...unless... |
| 18:58.59 | wps | ...the pay was really nice :) |
| 19:05.24 | drewbono | It would have to be... |
| 19:05.30 | drewbono | homes are so so so expensive out there. |
| 19:05.48 | drewbono | the only way I'd want to work out in CA is if I could work for Apple. |
| 19:05.56 | wps | yeah |
| 19:06.07 | drewbono | I think I'm going to hit the consulting gig first and get experience, then go over to Apple. |
| 19:06.16 | wps | I really don't want to move though. I am trying to pay my mortgage off. |
| 19:07.03 | drewbono | You have a house? |
| 19:07.13 | wps | a condominium |
| 19:07.19 | drewbono | Niiiice. |
| 19:07.27 | drewbono | You're a smart man. |
| 19:07.27 | wps | I thought you knew where I lived |
| 19:07.31 | drewbono | Nope. |
| 19:07.32 | wps | oh yeah |
| 19:07.35 | wps | rent is stupid |
| 19:07.45 | drewbono | I haven't been invited yet. ;-) ;-) |
| 19:07.58 | wps | especially in today's economy |
| 19:08.32 | wps | sure, a few cannot get qualified for a loan or make a down payment, but otherwise your dumb to pay rent |
| 19:08.42 | wps | I pay less on my mortgage than most do for rest |
| 19:09.14 | wps | fixed FHA at 5.5% |
| 19:09.42 | feutetejsd | yeah, not paying rent is good....until you want to sell your house, and can't make any money off of it |
| 19:10.07 | wps | it's true that that sucks, but you haven't lost any more than rent |
| 19:10.15 | feutetejsd | true |
| 19:10.24 | feutetejsd | and I've been able to paint my walls :D |
| 19:10.49 | drewbono | Back when Shiloh and I were engaged, we really wanted to get into a house. |
| 19:10.54 | wps | rent is money down the tubes not matter what |
| 19:11.11 | drewbono | but every way we looked at it, there was no way we could make it cheaper than rent w/o living there more than 3 years. |
| 19:11.30 | drewbono | The fees, etc., for getting a mortage, paying someone to sell it, etc., are killer. |
| 19:11.33 | drewbono | KILLER! |
| 19:11.41 | feutetejsd | Make sure to run Software Update everyone....OS X Highly critical vulnerability with system access from remote: http://secunia.com/advisories/14005/ |
| 19:11.43 | wps | my minimum monthly payment is only $580 / month |
| 19:11.44 | wps | beat that |
| 19:11.56 | wps | drewbono, that is so yesterday's news |
| 19:12.00 | drewbono | It's not the payment... |
| 19:12.07 | wps | :) |
| 19:12.16 | drewbono | It's the overall cost you have to look at. |
| 19:12.22 | drewbono | What's yesterday's news? |
| 19:12.29 | wps | the update :) |
| 19:12.38 | feutetejsd | that was me, not drewbono |
| 19:12.43 | wps | oh, whoops |
| 19:12.55 | wps | ~lart wps |
| 19:13.12 | drewbono | wps: |
| 19:13.14 | drewbono | http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/10622 |
| 19:13.57 | drewbono | http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/13325 |
| 19:17.57 | wps | thanks |
| 19:18.35 | wps | is there an easy way without spending $10-$15 ? :) |
| 19:20.48 | wps | I won't be doing it very often, so it isn't really worth purchasing a 'lil drag-n-drop app |
| 19:20.55 | wps | can you do it with Disk Utility? |
| 19:22.12 | drewbono | Hmmm... |
| 19:23.12 | drewbono | Ask, and ye shall receive. |
| 19:23.14 | drewbono | # Create the image |
| 19:23.14 | drewbono | hdiutil create -quiet -srcfolder /var/log/ /tmp/Log_$stamp.dmg |
| 19:23.16 | drewbono | I love google. |
| 19:23.31 | drewbono | taken from http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2004100119364513 |
| 19:23.35 | drewbono | brb |
| 19:24.23 | feutetejsd | woohoo!!! I figured out a way to delete the email I've moved to my trash in Mail.app from the server via POP3.... |
| 19:24.31 | wps | you did? |
| 19:24.33 | wps | how? |
| 19:25.15 | feutetejsd | well, it wasn't pretty, and actually didn't use Mail.app at all.... |
| 19:25.43 | wps | applescript? |
| 19:25.45 | feutetejsd | it turns out that (fortunately) the mailserver puts the UIDL in the headers....which I retrieve via grep and then use netcat to delete them |
| 19:26.19 | feutetejsd | a single shell script runs the whole schmear, making use of some CLI PHP as well |
| 19:26.50 | wps | do you have it set to run automatically each time you delete an individual message? |
| 19:27.10 | feutetejsd | no, I'll have to run it automatically, although I imagine I could make it go with each individual delete |
| 19:27.29 | feutetejsd | the way it runs now, it will just do a mass delete of the ones I've moved to the trash |
| 19:27.52 | feutetejsd | which works for me, since I only move msgs to the trash if I no longer want them (fancy that!) |
| 19:28.45 | wps | it's interesting how each persons email preferences and habits are so different |
| 19:29.01 | feutetejsd | indeed |
| 19:29.04 | wps | for example, drewbono hasn't deleted a single email message for the past five years or so |
| 19:29.20 | wps | and I don't keep anything (in my mail client at least) for more than 30 days |
| 19:29.36 | feutetejsd | I'm a lot like drewbono--I have a lot of old mail hanging around |
| 19:29.41 | feutetejsd | most of what I delete is spam |
| 19:29.47 | feutetejsd | heck....most of what I receive is spam |
| 19:29.54 | wps | (I save plain text versions of important messages as files in my archives) |
| 19:30.34 | feutetejsd | not a bad idea....I'm just too lazy to do that, though :D |
| 19:30.54 | wps | it's really simple in Mail |
| 19:30.59 | feutetejsd | although I'm not too lazy to write a bunch of scripts to delete mail from the server....what a strange man I am |
| 19:31.03 | wps | just cmd + shift + s |
| 19:31.10 | wps | indeed :) |
| 19:31.52 | feutetejsd | perhaps I'll give that a try sometime |
| 19:32.56 | mrclary | cmd+k removes messages from server; I just move an entire mailbox into an archive folder, maybe once every semester. They're real easy to open and search in Mail. |
| 19:33.01 | feutetejsd | maybe sooner rather than later....I have several hundred megabytes of email, and Mail.app sometimes gets really slow because of it |
| 19:33.42 | feutetejsd | mrclary, will cmd+k remove individual messages from the server, or messages for an entire account? |
| 19:35.04 | wps | fancy that |
| 19:35.05 | mrclary | I'm pretty sure it removes messages for an entire account . . . oh, wait, it just removes DELETED mail from servers, sorry; I guess I just setup my prefs to remove mail from the servers when downloaded |
| 19:35.42 | wps | it just just remove all deleted messages from the server |
| 19:35.52 | wps | it should just remove all deleted messages from the server |
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| 19:38.57 | feutetejsd | hmmmm....for some reason, I cant convince cmd+k to do anything.... |
| 19:40.12 | wps | are you addressing it as an individual or someone who is beneath you? |
| 19:40.25 | feutetejsd | the latter |
| 19:40.34 | feutetejsd | I never treat messages as individuals |
| 19:40.43 | feutetejsd | I don't want them to think they run the place |
| 19:44.26 | mrclary | ok, hold on . . . i'm looking into this |
| 19:46.00 | feutetejsd | if I go to Mailbox->Erase Deleted Messages, I get a grayed-out option for "In selected Mailbox" but can't figure out how to make it active. If I pick a specific mailbox from the list, it deletes it locally, but not on the server |
| 19:50.11 | drewbono | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.23 | wps | if you just put the script at the beginning of the file the code will be executed first, no? |
| 19:52.31 | drewbono | Yeah...why didn't I think of that? |
| 19:52.34 | macnewbold | does that work, drewbono? does it run it before the onload? |
| 19:52.46 | macnewbold | I thought onload was the first script it would run... |
| 19:52.53 | macnewbold | then start from the top of the html |
| 19:53.05 | drewbono | I just put it in with a <script> tag, right? |
| 19:53.16 | macnewbold | sure |
| 19:53.17 | drewbono | macnewbold: onLoad doesn't get activated until a page is done loading. |
| 19:55.07 | wps | the question is does javascript in the head get executed before the page has finished loading |
| 19:55.10 | wps | I don't know |
| 19:56.01 | feutetejsd | I believe it does, wps....I've put some JS into the head, i.e. to pop up an alert or redirect to another page, and I get the pop-up or redirect before the entire page has displayed |
| 19:56.19 | drewbono | if I put javascript in the body, it should be fine as well though, right? |
| 19:56.19 | wps | I am fairly certain that it does as well, feutetejsd |
| 19:56.32 | wps | probably |
| 19:56.47 | drewbono | Anyone have a PC handy that they can test with? |
| 19:56.55 | feutetejsd | yeah |
| 19:59.31 | drewbono | http://www.dmpg.net/pcworld.php |
| 19:59.42 | drewbono | Click on the "watch the action" link at the bottom. |
| 20:00.38 | feutetejsd | pops a window, asks me to pick a movie size.... |
| 20:00.46 | drewbono | pick a size |
| 20:00.54 | feutetejsd | done...mvie playing |
| 20:00.55 | drewbono | and the window _should_ resize |
| 20:01.11 | feutetejsd | I think it did. lemme try again, just to be sure |
| 20:01.12 | drewbono | did the window resize? |
| 20:01.49 | feutetejsd | yup. resized |
| 20:01.56 | drewbono | In IE? |
| 20:02.04 | feutetejsd | yup |
| 20:02.07 | drewbono | Sweet. |
| 20:02.09 | drewbono | Thx, man. |
| 20:02.13 | drewbono | and everyone. |
| 20:02.16 | feutetejsd | you want me to try any other browsers on Wintendo? |
| 20:02.21 | wps | looks like you convinced the designer to dump the background photo, eh, drewbono? |
| 20:02.35 | drewbono | Yeah, but I still don't like it. |
| 20:02.46 | drewbono | Graphic artist != web designer |
| 20:03.11 | wps | _very_ true |
| 20:03.28 | drewbono | Most people don't know that--at least I didn't. |
| 20:03.29 | wps | you did a good job at putting that together though |
| 20:03.34 | drewbono | Thanks... |
| 20:03.46 | drewbono | It's a hack, and still has a lot of formatting problems, but oh well. |
| 20:03.46 | wps | working with what he had given you |
| 20:04.14 | drewbono | I still want to learn about PHP templates. |
| 20:04.21 | drewbono | Smarty and Pear are the big players? |
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| 20:04.27 | wps | I would recommend PHP |
| 20:04.31 | wps | welcome, guest |
| 20:04.44 | drewbono | 'sup guest_0789 |
| 20:04.59 | BiOsLaSh | Nothing much. |
| 20:05.11 | drewbono | auto-complete? |
| 20:05.26 | drewbono | Wow--we're having a regular 'ol party here. |
| 20:05.28 | drewbono | :-) |
| 20:05.30 | wps | auto completes users nicks |
| 20:05.42 | drewbono | NICE! |
| 20:05.46 | wps | type the first one or two characters of their nick and then hit tab |
| 20:05.48 | wps | oh-baby |
| 20:05.52 | BiOsLaSh | Most people chatting record? |
| 20:05.57 | drewbono | And here I've been typing out feutetejsd by hand all this time! |
| 20:06.04 | wps | EXACTLY! |
| 20:06.14 | wps | i haven't typed more than "fe" in months |
| 20:06.15 | feutetejsd | my plan has worked perfectly!!!!! MWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! |
| 20:06.40 | wps | "guest_9283479328" isn't much fun to type either |
| 20:06.50 | feutetejsd | LOL |
| 20:06.51 | wps | LOL |
| 20:07.07 | wps | wps has even considered being just "w" |
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| 20:07.31 | wps | actually, I didn't LOl |
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| 20:07.32 | wps | LOL |
| 20:07.35 | drewbono | LOL |
| 20:07.42 | wps | I just LI |
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| 20:09.20 | BiOsLaSh | Ah, much better than the web interface. |
| 20:09.32 | wps | what're you using, BiOsLaSh ? |
| 20:09.47 | wps | yeah, the web client is no fun |
| 20:09.57 | BiOsLaSh | Now I'm in Colloquy. I'm at work and this computer didn't have it so I just downloaded it. |
| 20:10.05 | wps | ah |
| 20:10.07 | wps | very nice |
| 20:10.11 | BiOsLaSh | Yup. |
| 20:10.19 | wps | has any used/tried Conversation? |
| 20:10.22 | BiOsLaSh | So, iWork on Friday, huh? |
| 20:10.28 | drewbono | Yep. |
| 20:10.31 | wps | it's pretty nice too |
| 20:10.41 | drewbono | Never used Conversation. |
| 20:10.55 | drewbono | So, since we have so many ppl in here, lemme ask a question. |
| 20:10.57 | wps | all-in-all, I like Colloquy better, but Conversation is nice |
| 20:11.19 | wps | it is a slightly different approach in the Ui though, so they both have their good points |
| 20:11.22 | drewbono | What would you all think about having meetings every two weeks, one in the afternoon and one at the same time (friday at 4) |
| 20:11.32 | BiOsLaSh | The same meeting? |
| 20:11.36 | drewbono | The afternoon one would be a little more hands on. |
| 20:11.38 | BiOsLaSh | or different topic? |
| 20:11.38 | mrclary | I have my prefs set to delete downloaded messages from my hotmail account. then mailbox->erase deleted messages->in all accounts. This erases all deleted messages in all accounts on my computer. And I think that somehow my accounts are syncronized. |
| 20:11.40 | drewbono | No, different topics. |
| 20:11.40 | wps | isn't 16:00 in the afternoon? |
| 20:11.51 | drewbono | it's late afternoon. |
| 20:11.59 | drewbono | I'm thinking noon for the other one. |
| 20:12.03 | wps | well, you know my vote on meetings: 19:00 |
| 20:12.05 | drewbono | a lunchtime meeting. |
| 20:12.15 | feutetejsd | mrclary, does that delete messages from teh server too? It's not doing it for me |
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| 20:12.27 | BiOsLaSh | I can't make the noon meeting. |
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| 20:12.45 | wps | I can't even make 16:00 meetings (still at work) |
| 20:13.01 | drewbono | Man... |
| 20:13.11 | drewbono | people schedules stink |
| 20:13.12 | drewbono | :-) |
| 20:13.17 | drewbono | *people's |
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| 20:13.24 | wps | but I am a BYU anomaly |
| 20:13.48 | BiOsLaSh | Will there be any free copies of iWork given away on Friday? |
| 20:13.57 | BiOsLaSh | ;) |
| 20:14.08 | drewbono | Yep. |
| 20:14.12 | BiOsLaSh | Ncie. |
| 20:14.15 | BiOsLaSh | nice |
| 20:14.31 | wps | that's too bad that Target yanked the mini |
| 20:14.37 | wps | they need to be more patient |
| 20:14.37 | drewbono | I know... |
| 20:14.44 | BiOsLaSh | Yeah |
| 20:14.47 | drewbono | but they were probably losing money with their 10% coupon. |
| 20:14.58 | BiOsLaSh | Any new news on the Apple store at the Gateway mall? |
| 20:14.59 | wps | then leave the item and just make it a no-coupon item |
| 20:15.16 | wps | supposed to be summer 2005, BiOsLaSh |
| 20:15.29 | wps | but you probably already know that much |
| 20:15.40 | BiOsLaSh | A Mecca in our own backyard. |
| 20:17.10 | BiOsLaSh | Is it supposed to be a regular store or a mini? |
| 20:17.16 | wps | mac, what's you company's site again? |
| 20:17.26 | wps | not macnewbold.com, but the other one... the partner one? |
| 20:17.31 | drewbono | I'm not sure if it's regular or mini... |
| 20:17.40 | drewbono | I'd bet on a mini one though. |
| 20:17.44 | wps | don't know, BiOsLaSh |
| 20:17.49 | BiOsLaSh | One like in Chicago would be nice. |
| 20:17.55 | wps | London! |
| 20:18.03 | BiOsLaSh | Right on! |
| 20:18.42 | wps | drewbono: I am finding good stuff in "man hdiutil" |
| 20:18.43 | wps | thanks |
| 20:18.57 | drewbono | Yeah, it seems really powerful. |
| 20:19.00 | wps | macnewbold: eh? |
| 20:21.21 | wps | I think that this is the most activity that this channel has ever seen |
| 20:23.37 | drewbono | I know...this channel rules! |
| 20:23.59 | macnewbold | sorry... was picking up my lunch... |
| 20:24.05 | macnewbold | my website, you looking for it? |
| 20:24.12 | macnewbold | ~google mac newbold |
| 20:24.29 | macnewbold | the first two are good |
| 20:24.35 | drewbono | ~google drewbono |
| 20:24.50 | macnewbold | the other place is http://www.dmedia.ws/ or http://www.dmedia.ws/portfolio.html |
| 20:24.51 | drewbono | sweet! |
| 20:25.33 | drewbono | uphpu is more popular than mac.byu.edu |
| 20:26.55 | wps | dmedia is what I was looking for |
| 20:26.56 | wps | thanks |
| 20:27.06 | wps | http://www.hhslc.com/ |
| 20:27.19 | wps | is actually what I was looking for... which I knew was linked to on your home page |
| 20:31.00 | macnewbold | yeah, they're pretty good, IMHO |
| 20:49.01 | macnewbold | hehe funny... after we mentioned the link in here, about 5 people from the SLC/BYU metropolitan area hit their homepage... |
| 20:49.32 | drewbono | I hit it. |
| 20:49.41 | drewbono | Looks like they've done some cool stuff. |
| 20:49.48 | drewbono | Competitors of yours, wps? |
| 20:50.18 | wps | indirectly I guess you could say |
| 20:50.27 | wps | wow, what kind of tracking do you have on there, mac? |
| 20:50.33 | wps | (apparently you're hosting their site) |
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| 21:13.12 | macnewbold | yeah, just checking the web log... |
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| 23:32.33 | feutetejsd | hey, do any of you use Firefox on OS X? |
| 23:33.17 | wps | nearly daily, yes |
| 23:34.01 | feutetejsd | do you find that it seems to get slower and slower as the day wears on? For example, I'll launch Firefox in the morning, and it's all zippy, but by the end of the day, it will be much slower |
| 23:34.17 | feutetejsd | to the point where it will sometimes take 2-3 seconds to display a drop-down menu in a form |
| 23:34.31 | feutetejsd | even when the drop-down only has 2 options |
| 23:35.54 | feutetejsd | have you ever seen anything like this with Firefox? |
| 23:37.37 | wps | hmm... I haven't |
| 23:38.16 | feutetejsd | do you quit and relaunch Firefox at all during the day, or do you keep it open all day long after opening it in the morning? |
| 23:43.50 | wps | um... usually open for days and days |
| 23:43.58 | wps | running |
| 23:48.12 | feutetejsd | grrr |
| 23:48.33 | feutetejsd | not sure what to make of it. |
| 23:48.45 | feutetejsd | how much RAM do you have? don't you have something like 50GB? |
| 23:48.50 | feutetejsd | 500GB |
| 23:49.02 | feutetejsd | 5TB? |
| 23:49.16 | wps | :) |
| 23:49.23 | wps | 2.5 GB on my powermac |
| 23:49.27 | feutetejsd | d00d |
| 23:49.38 | feutetejsd | maybe that's my problem I have *only* 512MB |
| 23:49.44 | wps | I have never noticed it slowing down on my powerbook either though. My powerbook has 1 GB RAM. |
| 23:49.51 | feutetejsd | and I usually run with a lot of apps open |
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