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| 15:31.14 | *** topic/#byumug by wps -> Live MacWorld keynote coverage in #mercworld on irc.slashnet.org |
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| 15:39.34 | wps | good morning, philou22 |
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| 16:49.40 | macnewbold | hi, midnys |
| 16:53.53 | midnys | hi |
| 16:58.43 | wps | check this out |
| 16:58.49 | wps | http://ipod-shuffle.com |
| 16:58.57 | wps | veeeeeery interesting |
| 16:59.08 | wps | good morning midnys |
| 16:59.21 | midnys | wps: good morning |
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| 17:01.44 | wps | feutetejsd: http://ipod-shuffle.com |
| 17:02.25 | feutetejsd | ummmmm.... |
| 17:03.01 | feutetejsd | apple logo with today's date....am I missing something? |
| 17:03.57 | wps | (the new iPod) |
| 17:04.50 | wps | I think that it's dumb though. The word is that it won't have a screen, so you will only have two play options: random or straight through the play list. |
| 17:05.15 | feutetejsd | ummmm....still don't see what you're talking about....all I see is a blue-gray background with an apple logo in the middle of the page with today's date.... |
| 17:08.02 | feutetejsd | or do I just have a case of the Mondays....on Tuesday? |
| 17:08.15 | wps | that's all that's there |
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| 17:08.36 | feutetejsd | ok....at least I haven't lost my mind |
| 17:08.37 | wps | it is just excellent confirmation of the rumors |
| 17:09.03 | feutetejsd | oh--I hadn't heard that rumor |
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| 17:11.22 | wps | the lights just went down... keynote starting!!! |
| 17:11.48 | wps | dang I wish they were streaming the video |
| 17:13.36 | feutetejsd | are you watching a webcast, wps? |
| 17:13.47 | wps | nope, none exist |
| 17:14.00 | wps | but there are several play-by-play IRC feeds |
| 17:14.45 | feutetejsd | I see |
| 17:15.11 | lansz_nl | where else, besides mercworld? |
| 17:15.19 | feutetejsd | dunno |
| 17:15.39 | lansz_nl | the joined and quitting messages are insane! |
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| 17:16.16 | feutetejsd | indeed |
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| 18:21.44 | wps | iLife '05, available 22 Jan, $79 |
| 18:22.05 | cmkilger | sweet |
| 18:22.30 | cmkilger | what about student price? |
| 18:22.41 | wps | don't know yet |
| 18:22.45 | cmkilger | I guess we'll have to wait til the store comes back up |
| 18:22.58 | wps | they are talking about iWork now |
| 18:23.06 | wps | successor to AppleWorks |
| 18:23.14 | cmkilger | where are you getting your information |
| 18:23.16 | cmkilger | ? |
| 18:23.56 | wps | #mercworld on irc.slashnet.org |
| 18:24.01 | feutetejsd | wps has his finger on the pulse....kinda scary actually |
| 18:24.04 | feutetejsd | :) |
| 18:24.09 | wps | I think that the channel is full though |
| 18:24.16 | wps | there's nearly 1000 people in there |
| 18:24.39 | wps | and everyone keeps getting booted because "Max SendQ Exceeded" |
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| 18:25.31 | cmkilger | hello |
| 18:25.36 | wps | he's talking about Pages now |
| 18:25.43 | wps | Apple now makes a word processor |
| 18:28.19 | wps | interface is like Keynote |
| 18:28.44 | wps | completely integrated with iLife |
| 18:32.41 | cmkilger | $79 for iWork |
| 18:33.17 | cmkilger | Mac Mini? |
| 18:34.32 | wps | size of an external hard drive |
| 18:35.02 | cmkilger | 3" tall? |
| 18:35.58 | feutetejsd | Mac Mimi? are you talking about the rumored headless sub $500 mac? |
| 18:36.03 | feutetejsd | we... Mac Mini |
| 18:36.05 | feutetejsd | not Mimi |
| 18:36.14 | wps | yup |
| 18:36.18 | wps | two models |
| 18:36.34 | wps | 1.25 Ghz $499 |
| 18:36.42 | feutetejsd | G4, I assume? |
| 18:36.52 | wps | available 22 jan |
| 18:36.57 | cmkilger | nice |
| 18:37.12 | cmkilger | so what's the iHome? |
| 18:37.29 | feutetejsd | and what about the other Mac Mini model? |
| 18:37.33 | cmkilger | how much for the 1.4 Ghz? |
| 18:37.56 | wps | 1.4 80 GB, $5.99 |
| 18:39.23 | cmkilger | Ooh, I'm in |
| 18:40.54 | cmkilger | http://webpages.charter.net.nyud.net:8090/mattman7/mini.jpg |
| 18:41.28 | feutetejsd | holy smokes |
| 18:41.43 | feutetejsd | and again I say holy smokes |
| 18:46.59 | feutetejsd | so, will Mac Mini have a Combo Drive or Super Drive? |
| 18:47.02 | feutetejsd | or neither? |
| 18:48.10 | wps | combo, I think |
| 18:48.31 | feutetejsd | option for super? |
| 18:49.02 | cmkilger | my guess is yes, everything else has the option |
| 18:49.09 | feutetejsd | true |
| 18:49.30 | cmkilger | iPod Shuffle |
| 18:49.40 | cmkilger | Life is random. |
| 18:50.02 | cmkilger | 1 oz |
| 18:50.09 | cmkilger | that's light |
| 18:50.12 | feutetejsd | wow |
| 18:50.13 | wps | no display, but it has a click wheel |
| 18:53.10 | cmkilger | I don't get this Autofill |
| 18:53.26 | wps | randomly fills iPod Shuffle with songs |
| 18:53.57 | cmkilger | oh, right, it only hold 240 |
| 18:54.08 | cmkilger | or 120 |
| 18:54.09 | wps | 512 MB for $99 |
| 18:54.55 | cmkilger | wow shipping today |
| 18:55.05 | wps | 1 GB for $149 |
| 18:56.27 | cmkilger | those are awesome prices |
| 18:56.53 | wps | very smart |
| 18:57.33 | feutetejsd | so, iPod Shuffle is a screenless, click wheel-less iPod? |
| 18:57.38 | feutetejsd | with smaller storage? |
| 18:57.47 | wps | now, has a click-whell |
| 18:57.50 | wps | Wheel |
| 18:57.58 | cmkilger | flash-based |
| 18:58.10 | feutetejsd | hmmmm |
| 18:58.51 | cmkilger | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/vniow/shuf.jpg |
| 18:59.16 | feutetejsd | cool |
| 19:00.24 | cmkilger | I guess there's no Asteroid. |
| 19:00.44 | cmkilger | or perhaps I've spoken too soon |
| 19:00.54 | wps | they had better update the powerbooks |
| 19:01.05 | cmkilger | http://www.apple.com/macmini/ |
| 19:01.37 | cmkilger | http://www.apple.com/iwork/ |
| 19:01.56 | wps | hot dang |
| 19:02.14 | cmkilger | http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/ |
| 19:03.32 | cmkilger | http://www.apple.com/ilife/ |
| 19:05.57 | cmkilger | I can't get to the store!! |
| 19:10.29 | wps | dang, no updates to the Powerbooks |
| 19:10.49 | wps | That better be coming in a few weeks.... it has been way too long since the professional laptop line has been updated |
| 19:14.15 | cmkilger | what speeds were they before? |
| 19:14.39 | cmkilger | wps |
| 19:15.37 | wps | what do you mean? |
| 19:15.58 | cmkilger | the powerbook speeds |
| 19:16.14 | wps | what do you mean what were the speeds before? |
| 19:16.16 | wps | before what? |
| 19:16.38 | feutetejsd | before they didn't upgrade them, is my guess..... |
| 19:16.45 | cmkilger | because they're 1.5 Ghz now and I don't know if they were like that yesterday or not |
| 19:16.54 | feutetejsd | I'm with you....when the Mac Mini outperforms my PowerBook, I'm a little chapped |
| 19:17.03 | wps | exactyl, feutetejsd |
| 19:17.19 | feutetejsd | but that Mac Mini is exceeding cool |
| 19:17.20 | wps | I don't remember what the last step up was, cmkilger, but they haven't been updated in a long, long time |
| 19:17.35 | wps | there needs to be a 2 Ghz Powerbook, pronto |
| 19:17.43 | cmkilger | but they were at 1.5? |
| 19:18.50 | cmkilger | well I'm off to class |
| 19:18.52 | cmkilger | see ya |
| 19:19.32 | wps | I feel bad, but I don't understand what cmkilger was trying to say/ask |
| 19:20.37 | feutetejsd | I think he was just wondering the speeds before macworld |
| 19:20.46 | feutetejsd | of course they didn't change at macworld.... |
| 19:20.52 | wps | right... that's why I was confused |
| 19:21.02 | feutetejsd | not sure whether he knew that |
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| 19:23.26 | guest_5667 | Hola... |
| 19:23.53 | feutetejsd | hello guest |
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| 19:24.31 | drewbono_macSF | Hello? |
| 19:24.33 | drewbono_macSF | Anyone home? |
| 19:24.36 | feutetejsd | yup |
| 19:24.41 | drewbono_macSF | WOW! |
| 19:24.45 | drewbono_macSF | That keynote was AWESOME! |
| 19:24.50 | drewbono_macSF | Whew! |
| 19:25.12 | drewbono_macSF | I assume everyone's heard all the news already? |
| 19:25.24 | wps | were you monitoring in an IRC channel, drewbono? |
| 19:25.30 | wps | we've been busy in here |
| 19:25.33 | drewbono_macSF | I was monitoring the keynote. :-) |
| 19:25.38 | wps | where? |
| 19:25.43 | drewbono_macSF | I snuck into it. |
| 19:25.45 | feutetejsd | wps rules |
| 19:25.46 | drewbono_macSF | shhhh...don't tell. |
| 19:25.58 | drewbono_macSF | I'm at MacWorld. |
| 19:25.58 | wps | physically? |
| 19:26.00 | drewbono_macSF | Yep. |
| 19:26.02 | wps | WHAT?!??!?!?! |
| 19:26.06 | drewbono_macSF | Sitting on the expo floor. |
| 19:26.06 | wps | you're in CA??? |
| 19:26.12 | drewbono_macSF | At the eBay internet cafe. |
| 19:26.12 | wps | holy fart |
| 19:26.15 | drewbono_macSF | Yep. |
| 19:26.20 | drewbono_macSF | IT WAS AWESOME!!! |
| 19:26.23 | wps | I thought you decided not to go! |
| 19:26.31 | feutetejsd | holy smokes |
| 19:26.34 | drewbono_macSF | One of the machines crashed on Steve. |
| 19:26.40 | drewbono_macSF | Irony. |
| 19:26.43 | wps | yeah, that makes me mad |
| 19:26.50 | feutetejsd | d'oh |
| 19:27.02 | wps | everything rocked... totally stoked about all of the announcements... |
| 19:27.06 | wps | only one gripe |
| 19:27.15 | drewbono_macSF | no LCD on shuffle? |
| 19:27.22 | wps | it is bad that they didn't release updated Powerbooks |
| 19:27.29 | drewbono_macSF | Yeah...I know. |
| 19:27.32 | drewbono_macSF | Bummer. |
| 19:27.40 | wps | it is really bad that the best Powerbook is only .1 GHz better than the Mac Mini |
| 19:27.43 | wps | really, really bad |
| 19:27.54 | wps | The powerbook is no longer a "professional line" |
| 19:28.26 | wps | so... I hope that the updates are coming soon |
| 19:28.36 | drewbono_macSF | Definitely. |
| 19:29.05 | wps | you're right though, drewbono_macSF, this was big |
| 19:29.10 | wps | very exciting |
| 19:29.14 | wps | big stuff for Apple |
| 19:29.19 | drewbono_macSF | UGE... |
| 19:29.22 | wps | Pages sounds sweet |
| 19:30.15 | drewbono_macSF | Yeah... |
| 19:30.33 | drewbono_macSF | I'm so tempted to walk over to the Apple Store and buy a Shuffle. |
| 19:31.03 | drewbono_macSF | I wanted to type to you guys what was going on, but my PowerBook has about 20 mins of battery life. |
| 19:31.07 | drewbono_macSF | I need a new one. |
| 19:31.36 | drewbono_macSF | the mac mini is TINY. |
| 19:31.51 | wps | yeah, that's awesome |
| 19:31.59 | wps | very good move for Apple |
| 19:32.31 | wps | there are a lot of people that would be much happier buying a new computer if they don't have to buy a new display too |
| 19:32.31 | drewbono_macSF | I know. |
| 19:32.39 | drewbono_macSF | They're all about work domination. :-) |
| 19:32.50 | drewbono_macSF | Doesn't even come with keyboard and mouse. |
| 19:32.53 | drewbono_macSF | Super smart move. |
| 19:33.16 | drewbono_macSF | If they only made a util to easliy xfer stuff from a pc to a mac. |
| 19:50.05 | drewbono_macSF | well, I'm off to play with the shuffle. |
| 19:50.08 | drewbono_macSF | I'll send pics. |
| 19:50.09 | drewbono_macSF | :-) |
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| 20:29.21 | wps | dang, I wish that iWork included a spreadsheet |
| 20:33.38 | feutetejsd | so, is it just word processing and presentation? |
| 20:35.09 | wps | correct |
| 20:35.17 | wps | for only $79 though! |
| 20:35.25 | wps | that is $20 less than keynote used to cost alone |
| 20:35.26 | feutetejsd | yeah... |
| 20:36.05 | wps | for only $579 you can get a mac with a word processor |
| 20:36.25 | wps | AND |
| 20:36.27 | wps | now... |
| 20:36.49 | wps | for only $679 you can now get a mac, a word processor, and an iPod |
| 20:36.51 | wps | that's amazing |
| 20:37.13 | feutetejsd | me likey |
| 20:45.14 | wps | I said that I would not be interested in an iPod without a screen, but I might have to take that back |
| 20:45.35 | wps | I hadn't thought about being able to wear it... how light it will be... for athletics (working out... running) |
| 20:45.38 | wps | http://images.apple.com/home/2005/images/shufflelifestylec20050111.jpg |
| 20:46.54 | wps | http://images.apple.com/home/2005/images/shufflelifestyleb20050111.jpg |
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| 22:37.11 | wps | welcome, guest |
| 22:37.22 | guest_2062 | hi |
| 22:38.49 | feutetejsd | have we ever had a guest stick around for more than 3 minutes? |
| 22:39.02 | wps | nope |
| 22:39.08 | wps | not that I remember anyway |
| 22:39.13 | feutetejsd | d'oh |
| 22:39.22 | feutetejsd | are we offensive? |
| 22:39.45 | wps | no |
| 22:39.53 | feutetejsd | oh good |
| 22:54.13 | macnewbold | it's feutetejsd... he smells a little, sometimes |
| 22:54.24 | macnewbold | after a while, you just get used to it though |
| 22:54.25 | feutetejsd | amen to that |
| 22:54.30 | feutetejsd | and it's more than sometimes |
| 22:54.54 | macnewbold | (/me has never really smelled feutetejsd, especially not via IRC, that I recall) |
| 22:55.12 | feutetejsd | heh |
| 23:13.02 | feutetejsd | man, I'm seeing the uber-slowness starting up Stuffit that was being discussed on the mailing list too....ugly |
| 23:13.15 | feutetejsd | grrrr |
| 23:14.24 | feutetejsd | piece o' hud |
| 23:14.47 | feutetejsd | is there anything out there that will open .sit files other than Stuffit? |
| 23:18.01 | wps | hmm... good question |
| 23:19.00 | macnewbold | feutetejsd: there are unix versions of stuffit that can do it, or windows versions |
| 23:19.11 | macnewbold | but nothing open source, afaik, cause it's a proprietary format... |
| 23:19.30 | macnewbold | on OSX you could probably get the unix version and use it from terminal or something |
| 23:19.43 | feutetejsd | that's what I figured....maybe I'll give that a go. thanks, macnewbold |
| 23:19.49 | macnewbold | np |
| 23:21.04 | feutetejsd | hmmm...their download page only has Solaris and Linux versions....could be interesting... |
| 23:27.43 | *** topic/#byumug by wps -> BYU Mac Users Group | mac.byu.edu |
| 23:28.38 | macnewbold | feutetejsd: if you have fink or darwinports, you can probably get it there, or just use the linux version... :) |
| 23:29.02 | macnewbold | I would guess that when they borrowed a lot of FreeBSD it would have been desirable to take FreeBSD's linux emulation abilities as well |
| 23:29.15 | macnewbold | (FreeBSD can run linux binary executables) |
| 23:29.50 | feutetejsd | yeah....mebbe I'll give it a go |
| 23:29.56 | macnewbold | the stuff and unstuff on my bsd box aren't too new, but they work: |
| 23:30.02 | macnewbold | > unstuff |
| 23:30.03 | macnewbold | unstuff 5.2.0.611 2001/06/28 15:24 - archive expander |
| 23:30.49 | feutetejsd | cool |
