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| 01:19.45 | starseeker | brlcad: getting a unit test failure for the redblack implementation on latest ubuntu |
| 01:27.59 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: starseeker, any details? that seems random.. |
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| 01:35.11 | starseeker | brlcad: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rP64PJbmJn/ |
| 01:35.35 | starseeker | actually, the line numbers won't match - let me revert and rerun |
| 01:36.34 | starseeker | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fTK88qMPzb/ |
| 01:37.05 | starseeker | is seriously tempted to just deprecate that whole API |
| 01:37.15 | starseeker | we make almost no use of it |
| 01:38.29 | brlcad | try updating it to r70981 ... pre-bu_list elimination, possibly gone awry |
| 01:44.12 | starseeker | 71372 has it - that's right before the bu_list removal commit... |
| 01:44.32 | brlcad | has it as in still crashes? |
| 01:44.37 | starseeker | yep |
| 01:44.41 | brlcad | rather, still reports memory issue |
| 01:44.53 | starseeker | it'll crash outside of valgrind |
| 01:49.41 | starseeker | ditto 70981 |
| 01:50.07 | brlcad | debugging |
| 01:51.13 | starseeker | wonders if he messed it up pre-68656... |
| 01:52.25 | brlcad | at a glance, I think the problem is just sillyness in bu_rb_delete() |
| 01:52.47 | brlcad | deletes notes, then deletes the container that was holding the nodes, but it didn't take the pointers to them out of the container |
| 01:53.20 | brlcad | looking to confirm it directly |
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| 01:54.32 | brlcad | quick test-- can you comment out line 595 in libbu/redblack.c and see if it still barks. not the proper fix, but would help confirm the locality.. |
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| 01:57.09 | starseeker | still segfaults with that commented out |
| 01:58.10 | starseeker | brlcad: we've had a lot of problems with this code over the years - would it be worth it to consider replacing the guts with something like https://github.com/openbsd/src/tree/master/usr.sbin/nsd ? |
| 01:58.35 | starseeker | https://github.com/openbsd/src/blob/master/usr.sbin/nsd/rbtree.c rather |
| 02:04.13 | starseeker | couple others floating around... netbsd has one, looks like... |
| 02:11.02 | starseeker | as near as I can tell, we have two uses of libbu's redblack in our code - glint and pixcount |
| 02:33.17 | brlcad | I would rather eliminate it outright for an STL container (std::map and std::set use redblack under the hood, iirc) |
| 02:33.29 | brlcad | pixcount needs nothing of the sort |
| 02:33.42 | brlcad | glint could be adapted |
| 02:34.52 | starseeker | nods |
| 02:35.13 | starseeker | As an experiment I switched those two to C++ files - no trouble |
| 02:36.08 | starseeker | Do we need to eliminate those uses before we list it as deprecated? |
| 02:37.03 | brlcad | no |
| 02:38.02 | starseeker | heads for the CHANGES file |
| 02:38.04 | brlcad | it's poor form in general, but not a rule or anything. deprecation is an independent announcement to everone else, so it just looks fishy when we'r still using it |
| 02:38.47 | starseeker | I think it's worth doing in this case - I want to get it into CHANGES for the release, but I don't have time to disassemble glint right now... |
| 02:39.09 | starseeker | if I do that I'll start looking at consolidating it with the MGED lint command |
| 02:39.11 | brlcad | pixcount is just using it as an RGB color hash, that directly translates to a std::map<> |
| 02:39.17 | starseeker | nods |
| 02:41.15 | brlcad | heck, probably a simple std::map<int32_t> with RGBA as the key would work perfectly |
| 02:45.02 | starseeker | notes we no longer have commits posted to IRC... |
| 04:01.57 | brlcad | created a GCI task to re-implement it. it's perfectly scoped for gci. |
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| 11:43.12 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: hello guys |
| 11:43.12 | cad_zulip | :) |
| 11:49.21 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ping @**Jeffrey Liu** |
| 11:49.51 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Hello! |
| 11:49.55 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: do you know where to find a sample geometry file ? |
| 11:50.03 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: hello :) |
| 11:55.25 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw where are you from ? |
| 11:56.30 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Hm, sorry I didn't do that task so I'm not quite sure; have you looked at the db directory from the source files though? |
| 11:56.48 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: I'm from the United States, how about you? |
| 11:57.46 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: I am from India |
| 11:57.59 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: okay I will continue searching on |
| 11:58.18 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw do you have any idea of it's extension ? |
| 12:00.19 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: looks like MGED extension |
| 12:02.13 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: hello @**Panda (Gauravjeet Singh)** where I can find a sample geometry file ? |
| 12:02.40 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: I am currently working on Compile and Install BRL-CAD from source code |
| 12:03.00 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: but I can't find a geometry file |
| 12:03.23 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Did you already install BRL-CAD? |
| 12:03.35 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: yes |
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| 12:05.06 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: The db directory has some asc (ASCII databases) that I was able to import |
| 12:05.13 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Then, look at the share/db directory in your installation. There, you should find a lot of *.g files. |
| 12:07.50 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: yeah got it |
| 12:11.59 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw I got raytrace aborted while using rt @**Sahibpreet Kaur** |
| 12:12.00 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: what does that mean ? |
| 12:17.04 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: [Screenshot.png](/user_uploads/1549/mi0djFfGlz06Mma4ScCvo6cl/Screenshot.png) |
| 12:17.06 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Screenshot? |
| 12:17.06 | cad_zulip | This can happen, if you close the ray-trace window by clicking on the "x" (i.e. the usual way). Try to close it with a right mouse click inside the window. |
| 12:18.14 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: what if I closed with Ctrl+C in terminal ? @**Daniel Rossberg** |
| 12:18.48 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Ah, okay. type ```tops``` in mged and then ```draw``` with one of the displayed objects, which looks best. |
| 12:19.39 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: ```quote |
| 12:19.39 | cad_zulip | what if I closed with Ctrl+C in terminal ? @**Daniel Rossberg** |
| 12:19.39 | cad_zulip | ``` |
| 12:19.39 | cad_zulip | Try it :wink: |
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| 12:20.42 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ```quote |
| 12:20.42 | cad_zulip | ```quote |
| 12:20.42 | cad_zulip | what if I closed with Ctrl+C in terminal ? @**Daniel Rossberg** |
| 12:20.42 | cad_zulip | ``` |
| 12:20.42 | cad_zulip | Try it :wink: |
| 12:20.42 | cad_zulip | ``` |
| 12:20.42 | cad_zulip | It closes two windows simultaneously |
| 12:20.59 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: i also tried with other .g and same ray trace abort happen |
| 12:21.48 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Did you select a group for drawing? |
| 12:22.02 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: nah |
| 12:22.11 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: just one .g file |
| 12:22.38 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: when I run bin/mged, it gives me two windows |
| 12:23.04 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Okay, I see. For this task (compile and install), wee need to see this error message. This is intended there! |
| 12:23.15 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: [Screenshot-2.png](/user_uploads/1549/S2TuGgc4kfJBGLl8NZ6eV2aP/Screenshot-2.png) |
| 12:24.27 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Your first screen shot is what's needed to complete the task. |
| 12:25.20 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: However, if you want to see something, you have to select an object for displaying first. (with the procedure I described here) |
| 12:25.38 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw @**Daniel Rossberg** I tried with bin/archer and same ray trace abort |
| 12:25.54 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ```quote |
| 12:25.54 | cad_zulip | However, if you want to see something, you have to select an object for displaying first. (with the procedure I described here) |
| 12:25.54 | cad_zulip | ``` |
| 12:25.54 | cad_zulip | yeah okay |
| 12:26.24 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: As I said: Thats okay if no object for displaying was selected. |
| 12:28.14 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: `himanshu@asus:~/brlcad-code/brlcad-build |
| 12:28.14 | cad_zulip | $ bin/archer |
| 12:28.14 | cad_zulip | Raytrace aborted. |
| 12:28.14 | cad_zulip | ` |
| 12:31.43 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: @**Daniel Rossberg** so should I submit the task ? |
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| 12:36.04 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Yes, the error message is the thing we want to see. Type your name in the mged command prompt, make a screen shot and submit it. |
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| 12:38.41 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: done |
| 12:38.45 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: :/ |
| 12:40.12 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: hey @**Erik** :) |
| 12:57.01 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: I am on the task: Learn basic 3D modeling using BRL-CAD, part #1 of 2 |
| 12:57.39 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: I am not able to understand what all lessons to do |
| 12:59.28 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: Have you installed BRL-CAD on your system? |
| 12:59.49 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: Yes , I have installed |
| 13:00.28 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: Actually there are a lot of topics and under the introduction the mged, There are 16 lessons |
| 13:00.28 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: Here is the link to the MGED tutorial: http://brlcad.org/VolumeII-Introduction_to_MGED.pdf |
| 13:01.22 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: Yes, but the task states to complete lesson 1 to 8. What didn't you understand? |
| 13:02.00 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: Lesson 1 to 8 in http://brlcad.org/VolumeII-Introduction_to_MGED.pdf |
| 13:02.50 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: Yes |
| 13:03.12 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: And what is ae 45 45 |
| 13:07.26 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: It is the view you can from VIEW option in the menu bar. |
| 13:07.26 | cad_zulip | ae 45 45 is **a**zimuth and **e**levation value for the current view. |
| 13:08.00 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: Thank you |
| 13:08.24 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: under the VIEW option you can see a number of views you can display your design in. Also, it has been explained in the tutorial. |
| 13:10.30 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: Yes, I just tried to save a PNG image by running "rt -o lesson01.png" in the command window , but it didn't work |
| 13:10.57 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: It was given in the task description |
| 13:14.35 | cad_zulip | @**Savar Bhasin**: Can anyone tell me how to change the color of the text in LibreCAD |
| 13:15.13 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: @**Mayank Goyal** Yeah, it comes after you have drawn a design that comes after following the tutorial. So, basically you have to draw the designs given in each lesson and then use the command given in the task to save the image. |
| 13:15.32 | cad_zulip | @**Sahibpreet Kaur**: Make sure to name the images based on the lessons you did. |
| 13:16.58 | cad_zulip | @**Mayank Goyal**: OK , thank you so much |
| 13:22.30 | cad_zulip | @**Sean**: Also noted in the task description, you can alternatively just run "rt" and make sure all the windows are in your screenshot |
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| 14:44.02 | cad_zulip | @**Minh Duc Le**: Hello everyone! |
| 14:44.02 | cad_zulip | I have installed brlcad, but there is no bin folder in the build folder. Can anyone help me? |
| 14:48.52 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Could you send a screenshot of the files that you see? |
| 14:50.25 | cad_zulip | @**Minh Duc Le**: [pasted image](/user_uploads/1549/x2pSJq1ko9Gu_lRv8mF7QoYZ/pasted_image.png) |
| 14:53.22 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Have you compiled the project already? |
| 14:54.16 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: If you have, the bin directory should be located in either Debug or Release |
| 15:03.39 | cad_zulip | @**Minh Duc Le**: I have just opened those folders, but there is no file named mged or archer. How can I run them? |
| 15:03.39 | cad_zulip | [pasted image](/user_uploads/1549/cdfOlvbYgqOqCxG_wndJiHIs/pasted_image.png) |
| 15:05.08 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Have you compiled the VS Solution yet? |
| 15:06.50 | cad_zulip | @**Minh Duc Le**: How can I do that? |
| 15:08.57 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: So if you go back to the brlcad-build directory, you'll see a file called BRLCAD.sln. Open that and compile it (this should take a while), and I believe that depending on what you set (Debug or Release), one of the folders should have the correct files. |
| 15:11.15 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Let me know if it works. |
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| 15:40.46 | cad_zulip | @**Minh Duc Le**: @**Jeffrey Liu** , It has just finished compiling. Here is what the bin folder looks like now. |
| 15:40.46 | cad_zulip | [pasted image](/user_uploads/1549/NfrP02N44KTtC5mkf3jsgqoq/pasted_image.png) |
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| 15:46.37 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Hm... I don't think there should be so many dll files (I think most of them should just be exe files), but I'm not really sure what happened. How did you compile it? |
| 15:47.35 | cad_zulip | @**Jeffrey Liu**: Sorry I didn't mean that those dll files shouldn't be there, I meant that I believe there should be more exe files than dll files there. |
| 15:50.07 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: Just need some clarification on this task https://codein.withgoogle.com/tasks/5649945713967104/?sp-organization=4884012200361984&sp-categories=1&sp-search=c~2Fc%2B%2B |
| 15:51.36 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: Is this pointing to `struct bu_rb_tree *palette;/* Pixel palette */` |
| 15:52.07 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: Tasks says not to use bu_rb interference |
| 16:05.34 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: any clarification ? |
| 16:15.24 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: as per my thinking, this task wants to replace red-black tree algorithm into std::map as std::map has all the functionalities like insert(), erase(), clear() etc |
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| 16:37.54 | Stragus | There are many storage structures that can insert/delete items, the choice of red-black trees or whatever depends on the operations you have to do |
| 16:38.39 | Stragus | A red-black tree has very different properties from a hash table like std::map, but I don't know the requirements for that particular case |
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| 17:35.54 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: This is something like hash table or something |
| 18:11.15 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: ```quote |
| 18:11.15 | cad_zulip | as per my thinking, this task wants to replace red-black tree algorithm into std::map as std::map has all the functionalities like insert(), erase(), clear() etc |
| 18:11.15 | cad_zulip | ``` |
| 18:11.15 | cad_zulip | You are saying it here: Replace bu_rb_tree by std::map - with an int32_t as key. |
| 18:11.15 | cad_zulip | What's the value type? |
| 18:16.41 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: @**Minh Duc Le** Did the compilation finished without errors? |
| 18:27.39 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: @**Daniel Rossberg** I will look into that as no. 3. For now I had chosen another debugging task |
| 18:29.45 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: Did you already compiled the experimental features? |
| 18:30.14 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: currently working on Test and fix single precision compilation |
| 18:30.41 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: changing double to float and checking if any errors or warnings |
| 18:31.07 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ```quote |
| 18:31.07 | cad_zulip | Did you already compiled the experimental features? |
| 18:31.07 | cad_zulip | ``` |
| 18:31.07 | cad_zulip | nah |
| 18:34.51 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw I never used visual studio |
| 18:34.59 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: using vim |
| 18:35.17 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: is visual studio better? |
| 18:35.26 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: okay I will have a look into it |
| 18:35.36 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: There are easy programming tasks in the "experimental features", where you can learn how to change code, recompile it, and generate a patch file. |
| 18:36.18 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: ```quote |
| 18:36.18 | cad_zulip | There are easy programming tasks in the "experimental features", where you can learn how to change code, recompile it, and generate a patch file. |
| 18:36.18 | cad_zulip | ``` |
| 18:36.18 | cad_zulip | okay I will go though it |
| 18:37.00 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: ```quote |
| 18:37.00 | cad_zulip | is visual studio better? |
| 18:37.00 | cad_zulip | ``` |
| 18:37.00 | cad_zulip | It depends on which OS you work. |
| 18:37.29 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: ```quote |
| 18:37.29 | cad_zulip | ```quote |
| 18:37.29 | cad_zulip | There are easy programming tasks in the "experimental features", where you can learn how to change code, recompile it, and generate a patch file. |
| 18:37.29 | cad_zulip | ``` |
| 18:37.29 | cad_zulip | okay I will go though it |
| 18:37.30 | cad_zulip | ``` |
| 18:37.30 | cad_zulip | There is an own task for compiling the experimental features. |
| 18:37.52 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: thanks for info @**Daniel Rossberg** :) |
| 18:39.20 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: And then, you can do the "Remove throw statements" tasks. |
| 18:40.18 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: looks like it goes through this |
| 18:40.19 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: Compile BRL-CAD's experimental features |
| 18:41.10 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: and then onward remove throw statements |
| 18:42.28 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: btw what's the difference between default build and release build mentioned in http://brlcad.org/wiki/Building_from_SVN#Configure_the_build_system_with_CMake ? |
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| 18:50.48 | cad_zulip | @**Erik**: ```quote |
| 18:50.48 | cad_zulip | hey @**Erik** :) |
| 18:50.48 | cad_zulip | ``` |
| 18:50.48 | cad_zulip | Hi, is there something I can help with? |
| 18:51.59 | cad_zulip | @**Erik**: default build has some optimizations turned off and some debugging turned on, release is "for performance", do a default build |
| 18:52.25 | cad_zulip | @**Daniel Rossberg**: CMake usually detects already existing libraries on you system and uses them instead of their versions provided with the BRL-CAD source code (usually in the src/other directory). DBRLCAD_BUNDLED_LIBS=ON demands to use always the version which comes with the BRL-CAD source code. |
| 18:52.25 | cad_zulip | There are usually two main build types: Debug and Release. Debug contains additional code/data to match it with the source code. I.e., it can be said which code part belongs to which source code line and what the variables' values are. |
| 18:52.25 | cad_zulip | The release build is a usually speed optimized build with no debug information and variables often often don't have a memory address, because they live in processor registers only (if possible). |
| 18:53.30 | cad_zulip | @**Erik**: (Easy bugs in debug builds can very easily become difficult bugs in release mode due to compiler optimization methods, all ya'll should be avoiding release unless you know what you're doing) |
| 19:07.42 | cad_zulip | @**Himanshu Sekhar Nayak**: thanks for info @**Erik** @**Daniel Rossberg** |
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