| 00:05.46 | caen23 | hmm... apparently bitdefender (and maybe others) mark some files from brl-cad as threats https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/6594523692007424/ |
| 00:05.49 | gcibot | [WANT TO CODE? START HERE] Compile and Install BRL-CAD || 3 days || Code, Documentation || BRL-CAD || Beginner task |
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| 03:03.38 | starseeker | ``Erik: cool! |
| 03:06.47 | starseeker | not sure if it's right (if the first report is supposed to be only svn commits?) but that's a neat idea |
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| 07:09.11 | Apra | I had posted a comment 2 days ago in my task but I think no one has seen it...I have just 20 minutes left for my task...Its regarding T-Shirt designing for BRL-CAD |
| 07:36.37 | andromeda-galaxy | Apra: link? |
| 07:37.16 | Apra | https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/task-instances/5194521237258240/ |
| 07:37.23 | gcibot | Design a t-shirt for BRL-CAD || 3 days || Outreach / Research || BRL-CAD |
| 07:37.31 | andromeda-galaxy | Apra: if you reclaim it I will extend the tim |
| 07:38.13 | Apra | re-claimed |
| 07:38.58 | andromeda-galaxy | Apra: time added! |
| 07:39.04 | andromeda-galaxy | no idea why it was not reviewed for so long, sorry |
| 07:39.24 | andromeda-galaxy | I tend not to review the design tasks b/c I usually miss things on them (stick to more code-oriented ones). sorry! |
| 07:39.28 | Apra | Never mind |
| 07:39.36 | andromeda-galaxy | (although we have fewer of those than usual this year...) |
| 07:39.36 | Apra | its ok :) |
| 07:40.16 | andromeda-galaxy | brlcad: btw if we do not have a docker container anywhere I will create/mentor a task to set one up |
| 07:41.30 | andromeda-galaxy | Apra: hope somebody looks at it soon ;) |
| 07:41.57 | Apra | Yeah...even I hope the same :D |
| 07:42.56 | Apra | andromeda-galaxy: You were one of the grand-finalist last year...Isn't it? |
| 07:44.09 | andromeda-galaxy | Apra: yeah, a bunch of the old students are mentoring now. I was one of the winners the last 2 years brlcad participated (2013/2014) |
| 07:44.46 | Apra | oh..how many codeing tasks did you complete...just curious :) |
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| 07:48.40 | andromeda-galaxy | Apra: it is hard to remember exact numbers (+ I did do some design/modelling/documentation/etc. especially during 2014). but I think probably somewhere in the 25-40 area? |
| 07:49.10 | Apra | 25-40 tasks? |
| 07:49.36 | andromeda-galaxy | yeah, about that, I think |
| 07:50.48 | Apra | Thats actually great....Its hard for me to manage that much of a time coz I having exams too but still i am trying to do my best |
| 07:51.43 | Apra | and, the most important is I am this enjoying open-source :D |
| 07:51.57 | Apra | *enjoying this |
| 07:52.05 | andromeda-galaxy | yeah, exams are annoying. that year I had fewer in-class exams I vaguely remember, which was nice. but yeah, the most important thing is to enjoy this and get involved! |
| 07:53.52 | Apra | My aim was to complete ~20 tasks till 1st Jan...but just ~10 tasks till now |
| 07:54.04 | andromeda-galaxy | Apra: also the contest overall does seem a little bit more low-key this year. And I feel like we haven't been doing as great a job of stocking tasks as we should be for you all to work on (I admit to not having been great about this so far...) |
| 07:54.16 | andromeda-galaxy | sounds like a good plan |
| 07:54.50 | andromeda-galaxy | sorry to delay you with the lack of recent review on design tasks |
| 07:55.04 | andromeda-galaxy | waiting for review is always a little too bad ;) |
| 07:55.09 | Apra | Thats ohk :) |
| 07:55.23 | Apra | It must be the mentors were busy too |
| 07:56.17 | andromeda-galaxy | presumably. thanks for the patience! btw if you want to get started doing more coding tasks I'll be around and would be glad to get you pointed in the right direction |
| 07:58.04 | Apra | Yeah, I can concentrate upon codeing tasks, when my dad comes in the weekend coz he has the laptop and stays out of station, and my pc is quite full and slow, so it just crashes with vb |
| 07:58.32 | andromeda-galaxy | ah, yeah. Okay, in that caes I might not be as much help since I've never built brlcad on windows |
| 07:58.35 | andromeda-galaxy | only linuxes |
| 07:58.37 | Apra | and i dont have a free space to just dual boot ubuntu with windows |
| 07:59.20 | Apra | Else I had plan to make the plugins for LibreCAD 3 |
| 07:59.27 | andromeda-galaxy | ah yeah, that's hard |
| 07:59.29 | andromeda-galaxy | too bad |
| 08:00.50 | Apra | hmm, and yeah even caen23 is there for codeing tasks for windows...he asked me to install visual studio and cmake but once again luck didn't favour |
| 08:02.05 | andromeda-galaxy | oh yeah, I saw that conversation. it is too bad that getting dev envs (overall) set up on windows is so difficult |
| 08:03.06 | Apra | just another query the place where the comments and all are visible in GCI..it doesn't reload automatically is there any fix for it? |
| 08:03.21 | Apra | right |
| 08:05.31 | andromeda-galaxy | the task page on the website? |
| 08:05.36 | Apra | Yeah |
| 08:05.40 | andromeda-galaxy | I'm not super-familiar with the new system, so I don't really know |
| 08:05.54 | andromeda-galaxy | (2014 was the last year that Google used Melange for GCI) |
| 08:06.34 | Apra | oh...I need to click on the refresh button every time I want updates or rather press ctrl + r |
| 08:09.56 | Apra | Till the mentors look into my task...can you tell me whats opencl and how is it related to c? |
| 08:11.18 | andromeda-galaxy | so roughly, |
| 08:11.19 | Apra | As I developed an interest for this task: https://codein.withgoogle.com/tasks/5116035485138944/?sp-organization=4814441002565632&sp-is_beginner=False&sp-categories=1 |
| 08:11.21 | gcibot | Convert a single function from C to OpenCL (hyperboloid) || 3 days || Code || BRL-CAD |
| 08:11.36 | andromeda-galaxy | C is a programming language that you can use to write code that will be compiled to run on your computer, right? |
| 08:11.47 | andromeda-galaxy | but computers nowadays tends to have fairly sophisticated coprocessors, like fancy graphics cards |
| 08:11.49 | Apra | Yeah |
| 08:11.57 | andromeda-galaxy | (or fpgas, or Xeon Phis or whatever, but mostly GPUs) |
| 08:12.13 | Apra | Yeah GPUs |
| 08:12.13 | andromeda-galaxy | so the idea of OpenCL is that it is a language for writing code that doesn't necessarily run on the cpu like most code does |
| 08:12.31 | andromeda-galaxy | so you write these "kernels" in this sort of c-ish language that are compiled to be able to run on the gpu |
| 08:12.46 | Apra | ohk...so where does it run? |
| 08:12.56 | Apra | ohk |
| 08:13.00 | andromeda-galaxy | but this actually turns out to be very different from "normal" C programming because the main advantage of gpus is basically that they can do tons and tons of small operations in parallel |
| 08:13.19 | andromeda-galaxy | so you have to write code that does tons of stuff in parallel *and stays synchronized* |
| 08:13.33 | andromeda-galaxy | and to make it even worse, they usually have lots of different levels of memory available and not very much for each individual shader unit |
| 08:13.38 | Apra | seems challenging |
| 08:13.43 | andromeda-galaxy | so you have to manually deal with the memory heirarchy |
| 08:13.46 | andromeda-galaxy | so it's pretty annoying |
| 08:13.58 | andromeda-galaxy | but it can make great speedups and be a lot of fun! |
| 08:14.06 | andromeda-galaxy | I definitely don't want to discourage you from working on those tasks |
| 08:15.16 | Apra | Yeah have programmed on Java for 2-3 years and now learning an outdated c++ which is taught in school(borland c++) |
| 08:17.01 | Apra | Basically I love programming...but when i opened up the .c file i got nervous- it was some 400+ lines i guess...though much of it were filled by comments so just wanted to ask you about it |
| 08:18.10 | Apra | But header files like raytrace.h are these library there in c programs? |
| 08:19.42 | andromeda-galaxy | header files contain declarations of functions defined elsewhere. "public" header files like the ones in include/ are usually used basically as interfaces to other libraries, yes |
| 08:20.16 | andromeda-galaxy | so I am not involved with the opencl effort/that task, but looking at the sample that is provided, I don't think that you have to convert the whole 400+line file---basically just the shot/norm functions? |
| 08:22.50 | Apra | Just the 2 functions? |
| 08:23.49 | andromeda-galaxy | so like I said I am not the authority on this |
| 08:24.08 | andromeda-galaxy | but if you look at the ehy files that are provided, the opencl version only has ehy_shot and ehy_norm while the regular c version has a bunch of other useful functions |
| 08:24.56 | Apra | yeah, thats true |
| 08:25.14 | Apra | just two functions in opencl |
| 08:29.44 | Apra | can you give me the irc nicks of the mentors? |
| 08:30.06 | andromeda-galaxy | so Sean is brlcad |
| 08:30.30 | andromeda-galaxy | I am apparently on there even though I don't know much about the task:) mentors were selected pretty much at random apart from any particular requests, I think |
| 08:30.54 | andromeda-galaxy | I don't have the other nicks off the top of my head |
| 08:30.55 | Apra | oh |
| 08:31.08 | andromeda-galaxy | but probably just ask in here about the opencl effort overall and somebody working on it will show up |
| 08:31.41 | Apra | what do you think should I read some opencl tutorial? |
| 08:31.52 | andromeda-galaxy | that would probably be useful preparation |
| 08:32.50 | Apra | ohkk..i would then read some of them |
| 08:33.51 | Apra | aren't ther any participants other than me spamming the brlcad irc page :P ? |
| 08:34.26 | andromeda-galaxy | yeah the irc channel has been unusually quite... |
| 08:35.32 | Apra | I guess its this time only...how was it when you had been a participant? |
| 08:35.51 | andromeda-galaxy | the irc channel was definitely way busier |
| 08:36.20 | andromeda-galaxy | I feel like the contest overall for brlcad at least was somewhat busier as well. it definitely was on the code side of things, but we had more available and reasonable tasks at that time, I think |
| 08:36.40 | Apra | ohh |
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| 08:41.22 | Apra | btw it was a nice talking you :) |
| 08:41.31 | andromeda-galaxy | nice to talk to you also :) |
| 08:41.57 | andromeda-galaxy | good luck! and I hope you enjoy your student time at gci as much as I did |
| 08:43.26 | Apra | yeah...thanks :) |
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| 08:45.23 | gcibot | Design a t-shirt for BRL-CAD || 3 days || Outreach / Research || BRL-CAD |
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| 08:47.05 | shivam | Hii everyone |
| 08:47.20 | andromeda-galaxy | Hi Guest41973! |
| 08:47.53 | andromeda-galaxy | :q |
| 08:47.55 | Guest41973 | I m new in gci. |
| 08:47.55 | andromeda-galaxy | :q |
| 08:48.08 | andromeda-galaxy | (sorry wrong window) |
| 08:48.11 | andromeda-galaxy | nice to see you! |
| 08:49.30 | shivam_ | Means |
| 08:49.44 | andromeda-galaxy | Guest41973: are you working on anything in particular right now? |
| 08:50.10 | shivam_ | Yes |
| 08:51.04 | shivam_ | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/YmodfmNz |
| 08:51.52 | andromeda-galaxy | neat ;) I hope you find gci fun! |
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| 08:53.32 | Guest41973 | Yes!! |
| 08:54.04 | andromeda-galaxy | great! |
| 08:56.06 | Apra | You need to submit a .psd or .svg or any other file that you have created the t-shirt in....if you have taken pictures from internet then you might need to submit a .txt file citing its source and a .png preview of your file in the GCI page |
| 08:56.21 | andromeda-galaxy | Apra: hmm? |
| 08:56.31 | Apra | Yes |
| 08:56.56 | Apra | same task...so I can help here I guess? |
| 08:57.35 | andromeda-galaxy | ah, I see. makes sense |
| 08:58.01 | andromeda-galaxy | Guest41973: I am a mentor but I'm not great at reviewing/working on the design tasks, Apra is another student working on the same task |
| 08:58.34 | Apra | Hello Guest41973 nice to meet you :) |
| 09:23.34 | Apra | andromeda-galaxy do you see tasks for open-scad? |
| 09:24.16 | Apra | coz I have made a space-ship... |
| 09:25.16 | Apra | I am trying to do other tasks, till my mentors are free |
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| 10:04.56 | caen23 | compilation on windows is actually rather straight-forward |
| 10:05.58 | caen23 | common problems these days have been 1) some bugs on our part (but compilation proceeded and reported the errors correctly); 2) people unable to click next next to install program; and 3) some guy whose antivirus detected some files as infected :-?? |
| 10:07.02 | caen23 | the bugs, we could've done something about (i fixed them last week), and we could update the wiki article on compiling to give step-by-step instructions for windows |
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| 10:07.18 | caen23 | i wanted to do that, but i figured it might be a good gci task |
| 10:11.20 | caen23 | as for other coding tasks, i'm curious how many of the students who completed compilation have taken any other programming task |
| 10:12.05 | caen23 | every time i check the task instances page, i only see "compile from source" and "design a banner" |
| 10:15.42 | Apra | caen23: compilation of what? brl-cad? |
| 10:16.15 | caen23 | yes |
| 10:16.30 | caen23 | and i guess other projects, but i didn't try others |
| 10:17.01 | caen23 | by the way, i checked out your task |
| 10:17.21 | caen23 | the latest files are psds. could you send some pngs? i don't have photoshop installed |
| 10:18.06 | caen23 | actually, no need, macos seems to be able to quick view psds without photoshop nice |
| 10:20.55 | caen23 | Apra: if you're here, i can try to reiterate some of the feedback you got from the other mentors |
| 10:22.30 | Apra | Yeah sure |
| 10:22.46 | Apra | just a minute and i 'll be available |
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| 10:35.08 | Apra | So caen23 you wanted the png...right? |
| 10:35.36 | caen23 | i don't need it anymore |
| 10:36.38 | Apra | so now what? |
| 10:36.44 | caen23 | anyway, the first problem is with your writing of BRL-CAD, both on the back and on the front |
| 10:37.05 | caen23 | you used a shade of red that's different from the pink-ish color found in the logo |
| 10:37.14 | caen23 | and makes it look bad |
| 10:37.30 | Apra | ok...now its clear |
| 10:39.30 | caen23 | second problem is with the assets (i.e. other images) you used to create your design. in your file "website.txt", you are listing direct links to the images. what we need are links to pages which contain the images and provide aditional information (such as licensing information) |
| 10:40.35 | caen23 | so for example, if you got the image from here http://www.deviantart.com/art/Xurkitree-649456200 . we need this link, but instead, you gave us this link http://img14.deviantart.net/c844/i/2016/339/c/f/xurkitree_by_squeakysponge-daqo3m0.png |
| 10:42.38 | caen23 | if all we have is an image, we can't decide if we are allowed to use that image for marketing purposes (that is, if the author does not specifically allow you to use it, he might force you to stop making those t-shirts; we need to make sure that doesn't happen) |
| 10:43.20 | Apra | So how can I get the license part? |
| 10:44.10 | caen23 | well, you need to search for it on the website where you fond the image |
| 10:44.17 | caen23 | s/fond/found |
| 10:44.59 | Apra | i didn't get the 2nd msg s/fond/found |
| 10:45.17 | caen23 | it was a typo |
| 10:45.24 | caen23 | don't mind the second message |
| 10:45.32 | Apra | yeah...ok |
| 10:46.00 | caen23 | let's put it another way. how did you arrive to the image with the flags? |
| 10:46.53 | Apra | Just a normal image search |
| 10:47.38 | Apra | http://www.clipartbest.com/clipart-LTKp9xzAc In this link we can see the download option which means you can use it anywhere...right? |
| 10:48.29 | caen23 | no, not at all. in order to be able to use it anywhere, it needs a licence which explicitly says that you are allowed to do that |
| 10:49.12 | Apra | oh..i didn't know that...anyways so do I need to contact the author? |
| 10:49.25 | caen23 | for example, if you go here https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tux.svg |
| 10:49.39 | caen23 | you can see there's a Permission row |
| 10:49.47 | caen23 | and it says "The copyright holder of this file allows anyone to use it for any purpose, provided that you acknowledge lewing@isc.tamu.edu and The GIMP if someone asks. |
| 10:50.11 | caen23 | that's what allows you to use it for your design, not the simple download button |
| 10:52.02 | Apra | got it....but for the gear file there isn't any license statement...so do I need to ask for its license? |
| 10:54.31 | caen23 | i am not entirely sure, but i believe that the licensing information needs to be somewhere public. so an email between you two might not be enough. but i'm not sure |
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| 10:56.32 | Apra | http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/LTK/p9x/LTKp9xzAc.svg |
| 10:56.53 | Apra | Just go to this link and then inspect element |
| 10:57.31 | caen23 | what do you want me to see? |
| 10:57.52 | Apra | sth like "<path d="M411.1,256c0-23.9,14.8-42.8,36.9-55.8c-4-13.3-9.3-26.2-15.8-38.2c-24.9,6.5-45-3.2-62-20.2c-16.9-16.9-22.1-37.1-15.6-62 C342.6,73.3,329.8,68,316.4,64c-13,22.2-36.4,36.9-60.4,36.9c-23.9,0-47.4-14.7-60.4-36.9c-13.4,4-26.2,9.3-38.2,15.8 c6.5,24.9,1.3,45-15.6,62c-16.9,16.9-37.1,26.7-61.9,20.2C73.3,174,68,186.8,64,200.2c22.2,13,37,31.9,37,55.8 c0,23.9-14.8,47.4-37,60.4c4,13.4,9.3,26.2,15.8,38.2c24.9-6.5,45-1.3,61.9,1 |
| 10:57.58 | Apra | Whats it? |
| 10:59.08 | caen23 | svg is a vector format. that is, it represents the image as a list of primitive shapes, which are generated on the fly, as opposed to a list of pixels in something like jpg or png |
| 11:00.02 | Apra | ok...i am thinking of making this gear myself |
| 11:01.22 | caen23 | you can give that a try |
| 11:03.57 | Apra | another thing when I image search it....there comes sth called black box...and nothing comes out...give it a try |
| 11:04.43 | caen23 | i didn't get you |
| 11:04.45 | caen23 | what should i try? |
| 11:04.53 | Apra | image search |
| 11:05.13 | Apra | like when you go to this link http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/LTK/p9x/LTKp9xzAc.svg |
| 11:05.26 | Apra | click right mouse button and image search |
| 11:06.36 | caen23 | i don't have image search |
| 11:09.55 | Apra | Search google for image? |
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| 11:17.44 | Apra | open the link and then right click on the image and click on search google for image |
| 11:18.38 | Apra | does google search for black box? |
| 11:22.32 | caen23 | i don't have the menu |
| 11:23.09 | Apra | ok |
| 11:23.11 | caen23 | however, it might just search for a black pixel, which is why you get black boxes |
| 11:23.24 | Apra | anyways another query |
| 11:23.48 | Apra | i have got 2 different website which uses this gear |
| 11:23.51 | Apra | http://www.curiousrubik.com/crm/marketing-automation/ |
| 11:24.19 | Apra | https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=14&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjAjLKv04LRAhUEq48KHeinBeAQFghBMA0&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youngdynamics.nl%2F&usg=AFQjCNFZACGuarmJbiuEEaj-w-vlQV_5xg&sig2=jQZvinKqIb8dI0QxvZMWrQ |
| 11:24.41 | Apra | Omit the above link |
| 11:24.43 | Apra | http://www.youngdynamics.nl/ |
| 11:25.11 | caen23 | how do you know it's the exact same gear? |
| 11:25.34 | caen23 | even if it looks similar, some things might be a bit different |
| 11:25.43 | Apra | ohh |
| 11:25.45 | caen23 | maybe it's thicker, maybe the spacing is different |
| 11:26.03 | Apra | Yeah it can be |
| 11:26.15 | caen23 | and even if it's the same image, if someone else uses it (without permission), this proves nothing |
| 11:26.18 | caen23 | we still can't use it |
| 11:26.22 | caen23 | without proepr licensing |
| 11:27.41 | Apra | ohk...got it |
| 11:29.08 | Apra | https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cog_font_awesome.svg |
| 11:29.30 | Apra | I think this file has a proper license...right? |
| 11:29.52 | caen23 | yes |
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| 11:38.03 | Apra | and can you give me flags of world which can be used |
| 11:40.16 | caen23 | you'll have to find those yourself |
| 11:42.35 | Apra | ok |
| 11:43.32 | Apra | https://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photo-flags-world-240-flags-image541435 |
| 11:43.57 | Apra | Does this link have any license? |
| 11:46.34 | caen23 | it should be fine |
| 11:46.35 | caen23 | https://www.dreamstime.com/terms#royaltyfree |
| 11:48.17 | Apra | cool is the t-shirt ok? |
| 11:50.12 | caen23 | well, apply all the changes we talked about |
| 11:50.17 | caen23 | and submit it again |
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| 12:09.42 | Apra | caen23 I have fixed it...now the colors |
| 12:10.02 | caen23 | great |
| 12:10.17 | Apra | colors should be same? |
| 12:10.59 | caen23 | yes, they should be the same shade as the one on the logo |
| 12:11.04 | caen23 | the pink-ish color |
| 12:11.13 | caen23 | you should be able to clone the color in photoshop |
| 12:14.29 | Apra | http://imgur.com/a/HS5Vj |
| 12:16.53 | caen23 | ok, good job on making the changes we talked about |
| 12:17.10 | caen23 | by the way, you still need to stick the urls to the images you used in a file, and upload that to gci |
| 12:17.21 | caen23 | you also need to upload the psd and a png preview |
| 12:18.00 | Apra | yeah...I am saving all the files now, waiting for your approval :) |
| 12:18.32 | caen23 | what i would change is, i would make the brl-cad logo stick out better on the front (it currently feels crammed) |
| 12:18.40 | caen23 | and i also don't think the elements are aligned vertically |
| 12:19.18 | caen23 | for example on the front, the text and the gear seem misaligned to me |
| 12:22.21 | Apra | "elements are aligned vertically" didn't get it |
| 12:23.50 | caen23 | i think the text "uniting the world through..." is a bit to the right, compared to the gear |
| 12:24.11 | caen23 | their middles are not on the same axis |
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| 12:31.22 | Apra | ok...shifted a little to the left |
| 12:32.02 | caen23 | you shouldn't shift a little to the left |
| 12:32.34 | caen23 | i'm pretty sure photoshop has some form of alignment guides, which should allow you to see the axis and properly align it |
| 12:37.57 | Apra | http://imgur.com/a/e9bAT |
| 12:38.41 | caen23 | that doesn't look like it |
| 12:39.20 | Apra | That's grid to align everything |
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| 12:40.12 | Apra | http://imgur.com/a/RlUUW |
| 12:44.34 | Apra | caen23 is it ok? |
| 12:45.12 | caen23 | honestly, it doesn't look ok to me, but i don't know how to bring up the guides to make it properly aligned |
| 12:45.38 | caen23 | also, the thing about the logo being crammed still applies |
| 12:45.59 | Apra | View>Show>Grid |
| 12:46.20 | caen23 | but that's just my opinion, you should upload what you have and see what the other mentors have to say |
| 12:46.34 | caen23 | i don't mean the grids you showed me, i mean the guides i am refering to |
| 12:46.36 | Apra | logo crammed..I didn't get you? |
| 12:47.09 | caen23 | the logo doesn't stand out inside the gear |
| 12:47.13 | caen23 | it's easy to overlook |
| 12:47.37 | Apra | ok...wait let me think what could be done |
| 12:51.59 | Apra | http://imgur.com/a/w4FtB |
| 12:52.28 | Apra | how about it now? |
| 12:52.39 | Apra | logo part |
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| 12:55.35 | caen23 | seems better |
| 12:56.50 | caen23 | although it looks misaligned as well, and did it looks like you made the logo narrower |
| 12:56.58 | Apra | http://imgur.com/a/8KtQB ? |
| 12:57.32 | Apra | Yeah narrow...so do I flatten it? |
| 12:58.09 | caen23 | yeah, i don't know, i would say submit these changes and wait for review |
| 12:58.17 | Apra | ok :) |
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| 13:38.38 | Apra | caen23 I had a question that I also asked andromeda-galaxy...my GCI launcher doesn't reload automatically...is there any fix for it? |
| 13:38.55 | caen23 | i don't know what a gci launcher is |
| 13:38.59 | caen23 | the start page? |
| 13:39.43 | Apra | yep...the age where we attach files,comments and receive them too |
| 13:39.49 | Apra | *page |
| 13:41.10 | caen23 | the app is made by google, not much we could help with |
| 13:41.26 | Apra | oh |
| 13:41.47 | caen23 | i think brlcad can open a ticket, but i'm not sure the other mentors can |
| 13:42.03 | Apra | a ticket? |
| 13:42.46 | caen23 | a message to let them know about this, and hopefully they'll fix it |
| 13:43.33 | Apra | ohh...getting to learn many new terms |
| 13:45.30 | caen23 | tickets are usually opened on a bug tracker (it does what it says it does). don't know if google has one for gci |
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| 14:20.44 | Matt__ | I need help |
| 14:20.57 | Matt__ | I am using Archer 7.26.0 and I am trying to convert the .g file to either a .stl, .step, or .iges but when using the g-stl/step/iges I receive the error invalid command name. I need to convert this file ASAP |
| 14:22.20 | Matt__ | I have tried "g-iges -o file.iges file.g object" |
| 14:23.00 | Matt__ | and that returns the error message "invalid command name "g-iges"" |
| 14:26.52 | caen23 | Matt__: i don't think that program is available from mged |
| 14:27.01 | caen23 | archer* instead of mged |
| 14:27.11 | caen23 | you need to run it from the command line |
| 14:27.28 | Matt__ | in the cmd prompt? |
| 14:28.07 | caen23 | yes |
| 14:29.42 | caen23 | also, if you go to Help > Archer Man Pages, you can see different sections on the left |
| 14:30.06 | caen23 | MGED (mann) are available from mged, Programs (man1) are available from the command line |
| 14:30.58 | Matt__ | I'm very new to BRL, I have only ever used Catia v5 r20 and Solidworks 14-16 |
| 14:32.07 | caen23 | yup, i was just pointing out one place where you can get help |
| 14:34.34 | Matt__ | ok, so I used the command in CMD prompt and it syas "g-iges: No such file or directory" |
| 14:34.56 | Matt__ | It is there and it does exist |
| 14:35.26 | caen23 | ./g-iges? |
| 14:35.40 | caen23 | if g-iges is in the current directory and you're not on windows |
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| 14:39.17 | Matt__ | Im on windows, but I do not understand the ./g-iges? |
| 14:40.24 | Matt__ | the CMD prompt is at C:\Users\MyName\Documents\BRLCAD 7.26.0\bin> |
| 14:40.52 | Matt__ | then I entered g-iges -o file.iges file.g object |
| 14:41.26 | Matt__ | that returned the error "g-iges: no such file or directory" |
| 14:42.23 | Matt__ | underneath that it says "ERROR: unable to open geometry database file ((g-iges)" |
| 14:43.52 | caen23 | by cmd prompt, i mean the windows cmd prompt |
| 14:43.54 | caen23 | not mged |
| 14:44.05 | caen23 | sorry, not archer* |
| 14:44.29 | Matt__ | correct, I am using the windows CMD prompt, not archer or mged |
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| 14:44.53 | caen23 | hmm... then maybe "g-iges"? with the quotation marks |
| 14:47.52 | Matt__ | no luck with the quotes around g-iges |
| 14:48.45 | caen23 | how about g-iges.exe? |
| 14:51.01 | caen23 | ooh, actually, the command works, but the parameters must be wrong |
| 14:52.43 | caen23 | is the path to file.g correct? |
| 14:55.36 | Apra | caen23 I want you to look into this: |
| 14:55.41 | Apra | https://codein.withgoogle.com/tasks/6070732056428544/?sp-organization=4814441002565632&sp-is_beginner=False |
| 14:55.43 | gcibot | Import geometry from BRL-CAD to OpenSCAD, report || 3 days || Outreach / Research || BRL-CAD |
| 14:55.46 | Apra | and |
| 14:55.55 | Apra | https://codein.withgoogle.com/tasks/6324242635292672/?sp-organization=4814441002565632&sp-is_beginner=False |
| 14:55.56 | gcibot | Import geometry from BRL-CAD to OpenSCAD, report || 3 days || Outreach / Research || BRL-CAD |
| 14:56.12 | Apra | aren't these same but 2 different tasks? |
| 14:57.46 | Apra | Just mentors are different :P |
| 15:00.34 | caen23 | i think you're right |
| 15:03.47 | Apra | hmm...you should remove one of them |
| 15:06.43 | caen23 | not really, it doesn't matter |
| 15:07.06 | caen23 | and only the org admin can remove/publish tasks |
| 15:07.13 | Apra | ohh |
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| 15:23.20 | Apra | what does the org admin mean? The admin of BRL-CAD? |
| 15:23.45 | caen23 | yes |
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| 15:26.19 | arsh | hello |
| 15:26.26 | arsh | is there any mentor ? |
| 15:28.22 | Apra | yes...there are you just need to ask your question |
| 15:31.22 | arsh | oh ! i got it . thanks |
| 15:31.38 | Apra | yeah |
| 15:32.35 | arsh | can you tell me that the one who is in the top 10 leader list ........ how many task has been done by the one who is at the last no. |
| 15:34.00 | Apra | I don't know...coz I am a participant |
| 15:34.28 | arsh | and why there are only 9 students in the list instead of 10 |
| 15:36.28 | Apra | I thought the mentors would review and select the finalists on 30th...I don't think any leader board like this exits |
| 15:36.41 | Apra | till now |
| 15:37.34 | arsh | i think , may be |
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| 15:42.28 | Apra | btw, how many tasks did you do? |
| 15:43.56 | arsh | 4 |
| 15:44.14 | Apra | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.40 | arsh | you tell ? |
| 15:44.46 | Apra | 8 |
| 15:46.23 | Apra | It is not the quantity that the mentors look for, they look for the quality... |
| 15:46.30 | arsh | yes |
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| 17:18.01 | nmz787 | sounds like Matt__ didn't have the BRLCAD 'bin' directory on their system/environment PATH |
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| 17:35.05 | caen23 | nmz787: no |
| 17:35.24 | caen23 | it launched properly, but the path to the .g file was wrong |
| 17:36.09 | caen23 | the error messages were/are very bad tho |
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| 17:47.42 | nmz787 | caen23: ah, now I see |
| 17:49.06 | caen23 | nmz787: if you have the binaries, you can give it a try with a non-existent .g file |
| 17:55.42 | nmz787 | caen23: well, i'm on linux at the moment, and it pretty obviously prints the filename which is incorrect/non-existent |
| 17:59.30 | caen23 | uh, even on macos, i still get `g-iges: No such file or directory` |
| 18:01.10 | caen23 | i do get the .g below as well, but the misleading g-iges error is there too |
| 18:06.24 | nmz787 | oh, I always read error logs from bottom to top |
| 18:06.29 | nmz787 | well, often if not always |
| 18:07.42 | nmz787 | (in some programs I write, I sometimes even reverse the order of errors, so I can start reading from the last output of the program backwards... rather than searching for the beginning of interesting things (or warnings/errors) |
| 19:15.01 | nmz787 | "renamed 'make_bb' mged command name to 'bb' - Cliff Yapp" :( now I guess I need to have error-handling to provide seemless backwards compatibility |
| 19:28.31 | nmz787 | hrmm, now it seems the bb command doesn't work :( |
| 19:29.33 | nmz787 | http://pastebin.com/pevvziTC |
| 19:29.57 | nmz787 | I list my object, then I call 'bb' on that object, and get 3 error messages |
| 19:31.00 | nmz787 | starseeker: any ideas? you seem to be the one who made the method rename |
| 19:45.47 | Apra | @nmz787 which task is this? |
| 20:11.29 | nmz787 | Apra: it's a bug I am running into with personal projects |
| 20:12.31 | nmz787 | and indeed, I am using 7.24.0 on my working environment |
| 20:13.47 | nmz787 | Apra: are there unit-tests for bb (maybe they're still named with the old name, make_bb) ? |
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| 20:31.52 | nmz787 | starseeker: I think the problem is that you didn't simply rename the command, rather, the command itself seems to have changed... bb <object name> now prints the box dimensions, while before it actually created an bounding-box object which you then listed the dimensions of |
| 20:34.22 | nmz787 | starseeker: old usage seems to work with 'bb -c'... so my issue seems solved... but it would be nice if the docs were updated |
| 20:35.40 | nmz787 | starseeker: i.e. add a new command on the wiki, and link to the existing old command, and link to the new command in the old command's page (https://brlcad.org/wiki/MGED_CMD_make_bb) |
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