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| 12:23.00 | brlcad | starseeker: what are the respective sizes of the corrupt and rebuilt repos? |
| 12:24.40 | brlcad | also, what happens to the "skipped" commits -- is there a gap in the commits or are they all down-shifted because of the rebuild? |
| 12:26.33 | brlcad | also, are you sure that checkouts will need to re-checkout and not just update? |
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| 15:08.48 | ``Erik | yowza, http://www.xkcd.com/1725/ is the kind of thing that should get back to the mrb or whatever replaced it :D |
| 15:09.36 | teepee | brlcad: hi, we were just discussing the presentation/showcase mentioned in your mail |
| 15:10.36 | teepee | would that include just the brl-cad projects? if yes, I'm totally happy with the blog posts amarjeet wrote about the staus of the project |
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| 15:38.31 | starseeker | brlcad: I'll check on the size - the commit numbers are down-shifted |
| 15:39.12 | starseeker | I don't know 100% that people will need a new checkout, but I'd hate to try to guarantee that there wouldn't be subtle issues going with just an update... |
| 16:12.13 | brlcad | interesting paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1608.05137v1.pdf |
| 16:13.25 | brlcad | teepee: no it would not, anything awesome is showcase material -- time is the only constraint |
| 16:14.05 | brlcad | some projects resort to doing a video presentation, which is very easy for anyone to present via proxy |
| 16:14.22 | brlcad | i think 3min is the timeframe we worked with last year |
| 16:15.04 | teepee | ok, cool, so we'll discuss if we can have like 3 slides mostly pictures to flash through with maybe 10 words or so :) |
| 16:15.39 | teepee | right after pressing the save button for the evaluation which hopefully works :) |
| 16:15.41 | brlcad | okay, slides work too -- 3-6 slides generally consume 3min |
| 16:16.12 | brlcad | yeah, beware there is a "delay" after you hit that save button .. solid 5 seconds or so of white screen |
| 16:16.29 | brlcad | but did work for me |
| 16:16.42 | teepee | is not a fan of those "you can press that button only once" guis |
| 16:17.19 | brlcad | ``Erik: nifty freebsd overview: https://cooltrainer.org/a-freebsd-desktop-howto/ |
| 16:17.33 | brlcad | (desktop) |
| 16:17.42 | brlcad | teepee: yeah, me either |
| 16:18.08 | brlcad | actually opposed to the whole "you cannot change it once submitted" too ... that's new this year |
| 16:18.13 | teepee | twiddles thumbs... |
| 16:18.20 | teepee | ahh, there it is already |
| 16:18.21 | brlcad | should be able to change until the deadline |
| 16:18.50 | teepee | yep, I found that much nicer, especially with 2 mentors, the other could have a look though and add things |
| 16:19.08 | brlcad | exactly |
| 16:19.31 | teepee | but then, not a huge deal. so I left the last question with "No" :D |
| 16:19.42 | brlcad | especially with any shared mentoring, one might have been 10 hours a week, the other 15 hours ... |
| 16:20.15 | brlcad | teepee: did you see the lightning talk presentations from previous years? |
| 16:20.28 | teepee | no, is that available somewhere? |
| 16:22.27 | brlcad | https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-c5jwGzSQyPOHZyUVdNV2hFRUk&usp=sharing |
| 16:22.56 | brlcad | more here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-c5jwGzSQyPUU5hMVBOU25heDA |
| 16:23.50 | teepee | nice, I'll have a look... |
| 16:23.58 | teepee | ahh, coreboot :) |
| 16:24.58 | brlcad | they were time-constrained both those years, but hopefully more time this year for more orgs |
| 16:25.38 | teepee | I guess with more than 5 minutes it would not be a lightning talk anymore :) |
| 16:26.07 | brlcad | the talks are timed and cut off |
| 16:26.29 | teepee | those would also be nice candidates for recordings maybe |
| 16:27.54 | brlcad | yeah, some of them are incredibly interesting |
| 16:28.27 | brlcad | some people are just great presenters and speak well, other orgs prepare awesome videos and just hit play, some just totally wing it ;) |
| 16:29.16 | teepee | It's nice to be able to see those recordins in case one is interested but can't attend personally |
| 16:29.45 | teepee | or things like FOSDEM where there are like 20 tracks in parallel |
| 16:30.33 | teepee | for some strange reason lots of opensource/non-profit groups manage to do extremely well regarding that, e.g. CCC, FOSDEM, Debian, ... |
| 16:31.00 | teepee | for some reason I'm still waiting for the github conference talks which is like 4 month past and the web page still mentions the live stream :/ |
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| 17:45.08 | brlcad | starseeker: can you send me a list of the repo transactions that were corrupted, that you're culling? |
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| 18:21.08 | starseeker | brlcad: sure - by email? |
| 18:28.38 | starseeker | actually, I'll send you full info on what I'm trying to do |
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| 18:48.43 | starseeker | brlcad: sent |
| 18:52.54 | starseeker | decided to be insane and try OpenBSD as a desktop OS... |
| 18:57.44 | starseeker | brlcad: I'm half inclined to cull 68308 as well, since that's the commit that got the duplicate emails... |
| 18:59.02 | starseeker | it doesn't *seem* to cause any problems in-and-of-itself, but as I'm thinking about it I'm leaning more and more towards caution |
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| 19:44.55 | nmz787_ | brlcad: did you see my replies? |
| 19:46.17 | nmz787_ | brlcad: you mentioned something about not using less than 5 microns dimension... which conflicts wholly with "BRL-CAD users can accurately model objects on scales ranging from the subatomic through the galactic and get "all the details, all the time."" from here: http://brlcad.org/wiki/Overview#What_is_BRL-CAD.3F |
| 19:47.08 | nmz787_ | brlcad: I am working on MEMS devices which have nanoscale through macroscale features... I had been assuming that statement was good reason to avoid commercial softwares (as well as all other open-source CAD tools) |
| 19:47.31 | nmz787_ | brlcad: can you explain your 5 micron warning more? you mentioned computational stability or something. |
| 19:47.46 | nmz787_ | 5 microns is HUGE for some of the things I will be doing |
| 20:02.41 | starseeker | brlcad: spotted an issue with the 7.26.0 release - we call out the new fastgen support, but I think that's only exposed through the "gcv" command - which is currently flagged as "NO_INSTALL" |
| 20:03.38 | starseeker | brlcad: we should probably either update the release notes to not mention that work yet or go back and enable the install of gcv |
| 20:08.18 | starseeker | figures the latter, even if it does mean rebuilding the binaries... |
| 20:38.59 | starseeker | brlcad: or I suppose we could do like 7.16.8 and make an errata patch... |
| 20:39.20 | starseeker | (for the source tarball - obviously still need to rebuild binaries...) |
| 20:42.31 | starseeker | wonders why we're in the System Administration/Hardware/Symmetric Multi-processing category at sourceforge rather than Science & Engineering/Mechanical and Civil Engineering/Computer-aided technologies (CADD/CAM/CAE) like LibreCAD |
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