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| 00:56.30 | zaverichintan | Hey sean. I would like to know some patches from your end for OGV, so that I can implement them |
| 01:16.09 | brlcad | zaverichintan: you can check out http://brlcad.org/wiki/Online_Geometry/TODO |
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| 04:18.32 | shubham_ | zaverichintan: hey chintan, The todo list for OGV has been updated on this page, and other updates for tasks have been added. please look at those issues for whatever doubts you have regarding the bug list or anything else. I'll put this on the mailing list as well. |
| 04:18.48 | shubham_ | http://brlcad.org/wiki/Online_Geometry/TODO |
| 04:21.05 | zaverichintan | Thanx a lot. I have studied the system and prepared a issue list, I will add from the updated list too |
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| 05:06.14 | jasvir | brlcad: I was looking into src/libged/TODO list and I wish to work on 'about' command. It say 'display version, contents of various doc files, customizable brlcad.msg file'. Can you please tell me that which doc files are referred here? |
| 05:06.54 | jasvir | also please tell me where can I find brlcad.msg file |
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| 14:56.57 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:ejno * 67364 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/articles/en/gcv.xml: commit work on the gcv article |
| 14:57.26 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67365 (brlcad/trunk/src/burst/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/burst/Hm.c and 6 others): Burst does have a batch processing mode - see if that can be built on Windows while leaving the termlib menu off. |
| 15:11.25 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67366 brlcad/trunk/src/burst/burst.c: narrow down the signal code - if we don't have termlib we probably won't have sigpipe either, and the rest all trigger default behavior to begin with. |
| 15:15.12 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67367 brlcad/trunk/src/burst/ui.c: F_DUPFD is no-go on MSVC... |
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| 15:18.54 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67368 brlcad/trunk/src/burst/grid.c: this if conditional was backwards - using lrand48 only if it's *not* defined doesn't work very well... |
| 15:29.47 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67369 brlcad/trunk/include/config_win.h.in: The fallbck from lrand48 should probably be the bn random number generator, but do this until that gets sorted out... |
| 15:30.22 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Davinder Kaur * 0 /wiki/User:Davinder_Kaur: |
| 15:36.45 | simran | hello! I am working on Material Database. I studied the code and fixing the common bugs there in old code first. |
| 15:38.32 | simran | I have updated a file and want to submit a patch on that. |
| 15:40.08 | simran | I'm sorry but I not getting where should I add updates? should it be in BRL-CAD MaterialsDatabase's git repository or somewhere else? |
| 15:41.07 | simran | BRL-CAD Materials Database repository is also forked from Albert's (GSoC 2014 participant) repository. |
| 15:41.35 | simran | Can you please suggest me the right approach here? |
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| 15:44.33 | simran | Yup! OK |
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| 16:34.07 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:ejno * 67371 brlcad/trunk/src/libgcv/gcv.c: simplify |
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| 16:58.17 | brlcad | simran: git repo pull request |
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| 17:58.31 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:ejno * 67372 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/articles/en/gcv.xml: more work on the DocBook GCV documentation |
| 17:59.00 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67373 brlcad/trunk/src/burst/burst.c: handle this the same way as we do elsewhere, some signals aren't on msvc so conditionalize on those signals existing |
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| 18:02.28 | simran | brlcad: Reuest sent, patch submitted. Both I did. |
| 18:02.53 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67375 brlcad/trunk/src/fbserv/fbserv.c: ws indent style cleanup |
| 18:03.48 | brlcad | simran: saw it, thanks! |
| 18:04.14 | brlcad | note that for a gsoc application, you'll want to demonstrate some substantive logic change |
| 18:04.33 | brlcad | docs certainly appreciated too and helps you get familiarized |
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| 18:06.00 | brlcad | shubham_: yes |
| 18:06.21 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67376 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/file.c: need second opinion on this, but it looks like two flaws in the bu_file_delete pipeline. First one is in the check for the remove return code - 0 is returned when the file is successfully deleted, and -1 on error according to the man page. If the while loop is looking for ret == 0 to continue trying to delete, ret should be set to 1 after a successful |
| 18:06.23 | Notify | remove in order to exit the loop. The second issue appears to be in bu_file_exists - if fd is passed in to be assigned, the return code is *always* successful (1) even if open is in fact trying to open a file that does not exist (fd ends up getting -1, but bu_file_exists returns 1 - implying the file is there.) Instead, do the fd set if it is requested and continue on to the actual 'does it exist on the filesystem' |
| 18:06.25 | Notify | test without returning 1 - that way fd is set according to open *and* the return code correctly reflects whether the file exists.... |
| 18:16.33 | brlcad | starseeker: 67376 looks good to me, failure of not using tdd |
| 18:17.37 | brlcad | technically introduces a race, but most bu api is not meant to reflect filesystem status atomically |
| 18:23.09 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67377 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/file.c: replace the remove() ternary with a simpler if statement slightly less prone to mistake |
| 18:23.33 | kkrcodes | Hello everyone! I'm Krishna Reddy, a 3rd year CS undergrad at Hindustan University, India. I introduced myself in the mailing list a couple of days earlier expressing my interest in the Materials Database project. It's possible it was overlooked. I've done extensive research both on the web and past discussions in the mailing list(dating back to 2012) to understand the requirements and problem domain clearly. I set up the code, worked with it and found |
| 18:23.52 | brlcad | starseeker: don't forget NEWS when you get burst working ;) |
| 18:24.00 | brlcad | looks like you're close |
| 18:24.52 | starseeker | brlcad: can't tell - no test cases ;-) |
| 18:25.04 | starseeker | it builds, but I've no way to exercise it |
| 18:25.18 | starseeker | and I'm nervous about the lrand48/random/rand thing... |
| 18:26.58 | jasvir | I was looking into src/libged/TODO list and I wish to work on 'about' command. It say 'display version, contents of various doc files, customizable brlcad.msg file'. Can you please tell me that which doc files are referred here? |
| 18:27.10 | jasvir | also please tell me where can I find brlcad.msg file |
| 18:27.59 | starseeker | jasvir: I think the brlcad.msg file is something that would be created for the about command? |
| 18:28.24 | jasvir | will it be a temporary file? |
| 18:28.32 | starseeker | not sure |
| 18:28.46 | jasvir | ok |
| 18:28.56 | brlcad | starseeker: yeah, that's all certain to be changes as those three random number funcs aren't the same thing |
| 18:29.02 | brlcad | but I don't think it'll matter |
| 18:29.47 | brlcad | rand() and random() have really similar behavior, rand() being the crappier of the two |
| 18:29.59 | starseeker | nods - leave it to MSVC to provide that one... |
| 18:30.17 | brlcad | msvc has random() iirc, it's _random() maybe? |
| 18:30.32 | starseeker | kinda feels like we should be using bn's random number generator, which ideally we would guarantee was good... |
| 18:30.43 | starseeker | checks... |
| 18:30.44 | brlcad | they certainly have other non-posix non-unix random number generators that are superior |
| 18:30.51 | brlcad | yeah was going to say that |
| 18:31.01 | brlcad | especially for burst, should just use bn |
| 18:31.06 | starseeker | bn_randmt? |
| 18:31.30 | brlcad | any of them should do, but that will be the superior one |
| 18:31.31 | jasvir | and what docs files referred in ',display version, contents of various doc files,' in todo list? |
| 18:31.50 | brlcad | really want to deprecate that function though... so we have a simpler random number API |
| 18:32.12 | starseeker | heh - all the other ones looked more quirky |
| 18:32.13 | brlcad | definitely want a merzinetwister PRNG, but doesn't need to be its own symbol |
| 18:32.20 | brlcad | just food for thought for later |
| 18:33.06 | starseeker | brlcad: is anything there more "future proof" than bn_randmt ? |
| 18:33.43 | brlcad | what do you mean? |
| 18:33.54 | brlcad | api-wise that exists, probably not |
| 18:33.55 | starseeker | we have msr.h, rand.h and randmt.h |
| 18:34.13 | starseeker | was wondering if something in one of those was "preferred" even if harder to use... |
| 18:34.16 | brlcad | that's the point, we have those three plus all the random macros like BN_RANDOM() |
| 18:34.24 | brlcad | for fast random numbers |
| 18:34.33 | starseeker | ah, so all of that should boil down into a simpler api? |
| 18:34.39 | brlcad | if it can |
| 18:34.53 | brlcad | this is where a c++ class wins... |
| 18:34.57 | brlcad | templatized |
| 18:35.29 | starseeker | do we have a preferred seed for bn_randmt_seed? |
| 18:35.32 | brlcad | the macro rng's are pretty crazy fast, hard to beat, but relatively poor randomness |
| 18:36.45 | brlcad | merging those with something like merzzine isn't going to fly easily without hurting their performance so we may end up with 2 or 3 api calls |
| 18:36.57 | brlcad | seeding depends on the app |
| 18:37.10 | brlcad | do you know if there's any method in burst for getting repeatable results? |
| 18:37.21 | starseeker | not offhand... |
| 18:37.22 | brlcad | how was it seeding rand()/random() |
| 18:37.59 | starseeker | don't immediately see that they seed it anywhere... |
| 18:39.10 | shubham_ | brlcad: did you get a chance to look at the updated OGV task list on the wiki, looks good? |
| 18:39.10 | starseeker | no srand48, seed48, or lcong48 calls, for example... |
| 18:40.34 | starseeker | the use is in grid.c |
| 18:40.43 | starseeker | not really sure what they're up to with it... |
| 18:41.56 | starseeker | looks like some sort of jitter in the x and y offset |
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| 18:45.12 | brlcad | what about srand(), srandom() or setstate()? |
| 18:45.48 | starseeker | grep says no |
| 18:45.48 | brlcad | we added the lrand48 stuff so I wouldn't be surprised if someone overlooked an srand48 seeding |
| 18:46.15 | brlcad | okay, so then doesn't matter -- can skip seeing like it's doing or add a time(0) seed |
| 18:47.19 | starseeker | since bn_randmt gives us a double between 0 and 1 and they want a 2 digit random number, is it something like (bn_randmt()*100) % 100; or does that bias us? |
| 18:48.04 | brlcad | "yes" : ) |
| 18:48.22 | starseeker | heh |
| 18:48.37 | brlcad | rand/random return 0 to some large number MAX_RANDOM and UINT32_MAX respectively iirc |
| 18:48.44 | starseeker | yep |
| 18:48.47 | brlcad | so what are they doing? |
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| 18:48.58 | starseeker | taking that large number and % 100 |
| 18:49.22 | brlcad | huh, interesting |
| 18:49.33 | brlcad | set to an int? |
| 18:49.42 | starseeker | a_user |
| 18:49.45 | starseeker | checks... |
| 18:49.51 | brlcad | o.O |
| 18:50.07 | starseeker | yeah, int |
| 18:50.43 | brlcad | what a terribly named ap member |
| 18:50.57 | starseeker | must agree... |
| 18:51.16 | brlcad | okay, so wanting a normal distribution 0 to 99 inclusive |
| 18:51.22 | starseeker | nods |
| 18:51.58 | brlcad | so then yes, just multiplying by 100 will bias |
| 18:52.18 | starseeker | thought so, but not sure what plan b is |
| 18:53.42 | starseeker | had the vague impression there were generally separate function calls that returned different types specifially to avoid the problems most of the naive conversion methods cause... |
| 18:53.43 | brlcad | i think lrint() will fix it here, lrint(bn_randmt() * 100.0) % 100 |
| 18:54.30 | starseeker | and to make sure I understand correctly, the %100 in this case will clamp 100 back to 1? |
| 18:54.59 | brlcad | 100 % 100 == 0 |
| 18:55.04 | starseeker | er, duh |
| 18:55.06 | starseeker | right |
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| 18:55.40 | brlcad | is randmt inclusive or exclusive 0 to 1 |
| 18:55.48 | brlcad | presume inclusive? |
| 18:55.55 | starseeker | [0, 1]-interval according to randmt.h |
| 18:56.13 | starseeker | tries to recall his set theory notations... |
| 18:56.17 | brlcad | okay, so if they nomenclatured intentionally, that's a closed set, inclusive |
| 18:57.11 | brlcad | hm, I think that means this is wrong then, will bias too many zeros |
| 18:57.43 | starseeker | * 99 instead of 100? |
| 18:58.28 | starseeker | then we don't need to % 100 and up the zero count... |
| 19:00.06 | brlcad | yeah, true lrint(bn_randmt() * 99.0) |
| 19:01.53 | brlcad | writes a little test to confirm |
| 19:01.56 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67379 (brlcad/trunk/include/config_win.h.in brlcad/trunk/src/burst/grid.c): Rather than the multiple generator calls and platform specifics, use bn_randmt to get our random number. (Sean) |
| 19:08.01 | brlcad | oop, no good |
| 19:08.19 | brlcad | first and last become half as likely |
| 19:10.33 | brlcad | can see here: https://gist.github.com/brlcad/6cb2b01ba166800a39ac |
| 19:12.02 | brlcad | duh, still needs to be * 100 |
| 19:12.30 | brlcad | but then mapped down |
| 19:12.40 | brlcad | tries something lese |
| 19:13.56 | brlcad | yeah, what I was originally going to write |
| 19:14.07 | brlcad | lrint(bn_randmt() * 100.0) % 100 does it |
| 19:14.49 | brlcad | was thinking the modulo was unimportant, but it's not -- it distributes the ends |
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| 19:17.09 | brlcad | gist updated, https://gist.github.com/brlcad/6cb2b01ba166800a39ac |
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| 19:38.29 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67382 brlcad/trunk/src/burst/grid.c: need to bin results all the way up to 100 and modulo 100 in order to get an unbiased apping into [0,100). |
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| 19:40.51 | starseeker | brlcad: cool |
| 19:42.26 | starseeker | brlcad: I'm going to ask around, but I'm hopeful we may be able to deprecate the termlib interface to burst as long as we keep the batch processing capability around |
| 19:52.45 | Stragus | Random floating point conversion to integers is also slightly biased, just differently from a modulo on the whole integer range |
| 19:53.24 | Stragus | The non-biased way is looping if a random integer lands in the last "partial set", at the end of the range |
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| 20:27.14 | brlcad | starseeker: k, sounds good - you know we could also retain the interactive interface by just turning it into a simple prompting interface |
| 20:27.19 | brlcad | printf+gets style |
| 20:27.42 | brlcad | then it's effectively minimally impacting, no worries to even announce |
| 20:27.48 | brlcad | other than news |
| 20:29.13 | brlcad | Stragus: lrint() should be handling bias to ints because it does an even/odd splitting at the half |
| 20:30.08 | brlcad | not the fastest, but should be uniform throughout |
| 20:32.18 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67384 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/concat.c: Update nref after doing a db_concat |
| 20:33.02 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 67385 (brlcad/trunk/src/libged/kill.c brlcad/trunk/src/libged/killrefs.c brlcad/trunk/src/libged/killtree.c): For insurance, do nref updates after kills. |
| 20:38.17 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67386 (brlcad/trunk/TODO brlcad/trunk/src/libged/TODO): bob anderson would like a means to generate pipes automatically given an input bot. this is my initial thoughts on an approach we could take. other thoughts at http://brlcad.org/wiki/Convert_BoT_to_Pipe |
| 20:39.30 | maths22 | brlcad: What's the status on the backups? |
| 20:39.39 | maths22 | Did they finally actually work? |
| 20:40.12 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67387 brlcad/trunk/TODO: marching cubes is in facetize, -M option |
| 20:43.07 | brlcad | maths22: yes, they're working and chugging along |
| 20:43.12 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67388 brlcad/trunk/NEWS: looks like erik added the -m option to facetize that enables marching cubes a long while back. didn't trace origin, but look like it's been announced regardless. |
| 20:43.23 | brlcad | took a long time to get through this gcimoin user that someone set up ;) |
| 20:43.31 | brlcad | lots of files |
| 20:53.16 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67389 brlcad/trunk/TODO: cliff broke up the libdm<->libged cyclic dependency. bb code should generalize to librt. and ged needs formal temp objects instead of hacks. |
| 20:56.33 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67390 (brlcad/trunk/TODO brlcad/trunk/src/libged/TODO): edit command pretty much does what was proposed, but still needs synopsis review and extensive testing |
| 21:02.46 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67391 (brlcad/trunk/TODO brlcad/trunk/src/libged/TODO): tables has a security no-no, tree needs to take a full path, and entering solid edit mode is obsoleted with archer's modeless editing. cliff also decoupled screengrab's libfb/libdm linkage. |
| 21:11.47 | maths22 | brlcad: It looks like gcimoin set up Jenkins for GCI 2012 |
| 21:18.38 | jasvir | starseeker: can you please tell me that what is the purpose of src/qged/cadview.* file? All it is having right now is initialization of canvas and de-initializing it. canvas is also initialized in src/qged/main_window* |
| 21:19.56 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67392 (brlcad/trunk/TODO brlcad/trunk/src/libged/TODO): analyze could use per-face/per-surface info |
| 21:20.41 | starseeker | jasvir: I think cadview is a stub - it was going to become the viewing widget for geometry, but I never got there |
| 21:25.59 | starseeker | brlcad: I was doing some pondering about what possible analyze command options might look like - should those go in the libged TODO? (or maybe you should review it first lest someone take it seriously prematurely...) |
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| 22:00.18 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 67393 brlcad/trunk/NEWS: cliff added a help option to gdiff |
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| 22:15.16 | jasvir | starseeker: there is a canvas in src/qged/main_window.h. As you said that src/qged/cadview* is not is use currently. So if I want to use src/qged/cadview for viewing the drawing, do I have to use mainwindow's canvas? |
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| 22:56.45 | Gabriel | Hi, I have shared a draft of my proposal for "Add exec option to search" project. Could you, please, have a look at it? |
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